It's Chicago Bears - Green Bay Packers week | Top 10 Packers of all-time

Summary

Dan Bernstein Unfiltered – “It’s Chicago Bears–Green Bay Packers Week | Top 10 Packers of All-Time”

Date: December 5, 2025
Host: Dan Bernstein
Producer/Co-host: Matt Abbatacola
Podcast: Dan Bernstein Unfiltered on 312 Sports

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Overview

This episode, dropping just before the much-anticipated Chicago Bears–Green Bay Packers game (Round 1, 2025), delivers the usual sharp but irreverent Chicago sports banter. Dan and Matt dive into injuries impacting the NFC North, respond to a creative deluge of listener feedback, reflect on Bears–Packers lore, and, in their signature bit, unveil dueling lists of "Top 10 Packers of All-Time"—with more than a few surprises.

The tone is honest, playful, self-aware, and loaded with inside jokes and community references. If you want Chicago Bears talk unfiltered, with plenty of side roads, this is quintessential DBU.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. NFC North Injury News and Impact

[00:48–03:03]

• Immediate reaction to Brian Branch (Lions) suffering a season-ending Achilles tear, called “enormous” for Detroit’s defense.
  • “Probably their most impactful defensive player outside of Aiden Hutchinson.” – Dan Bernstein (01:14)
• Packers’ Devonte Wyatt also hurt, shaking up the NFC North landscape and setting the stage for Bears optimism.
  • Bears are “getting healthier… seems like things are falling in place here.” – Dan (01:45)
• Bears set as 6.5-point underdogs at Lambeau (“Looking at my bookie…” share, 01:45–02:34)
• “I'm very excited… postgame show going… recap a Bears victory up in Lambeau Field to get them to 10 and 3 on the year.” – Dan (02:44)

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2. Listener Feedback & Community Engagement

[06:23–24:53]
“Friday Feedback Friday” – beloved running segment, even amidst technical glitches the previous week.

Highlights:

• The new 312 Sports app is giving listeners new ways to interact (audio, video, polls).
  • “It's like getting a Christmas gift… up and running and going, contests, polls, instant reactions…” – Matt (06:26)
• In-joke: Dan teases Matt’s dad for being “technically smarter.”
• “Bear down!” debate: mockery and meta-commentary on fans’ expectations and “real” Bears fandom.
• Listener ‘Sheriff Scabbs’ delivers a legendary pie story involving Al Michaels and Lake Placid:
  • “So Michaels smirked and said, ‘yeah, I’ve heard of it.’” (13:04)
  • “And walked out of the room while everyone else… let the baker know what an idiot he was.” – Matt (13:25)
  • “It ends with asking Al Michaels if he’s ever heard of Lake Placid. It’s so good.” – Dan (13:32)

Creative Listener Submissions:

• Bears O-Line “Boy Band” Nicknames: “Block Street Boys” detailed boy band personas for Bears linemen

  • “He never sends his catchphrase, delivered with a smirk: I don’t break hearts baby, I pancake them.” – Block Street Boys entry (16:23)
  • “That was very creative and probably took a very long time to put together.” – Dan (17:45)

• On mental health and Bears fandom:

  • “What I hear you saying is be vulnerable… what I hear you saying is be present.” – Listener Andrew (19:05)
  • “Well thought out… Don’t be afraid to be heartbroken again. Let yourself open up to the possibility.” – Dan (19:40)

• Mock-segment suggestions (“Are You Faster Than Andrew Billings?”), jokes about Chicago sports traditions, and lots of Bears–Packers (and Bulls, Cubs, etc.) trauma.

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3. Culture, Food, and Weirdness Corner

[24:53–40:51]

• Albuquerque vignettes: Locals compare the city to GTA (car theft, lawlessness, street racing, etc.)
  • “While it’s not entirely lawless, like the video game... it does have its problems…” – Listener Zach (21:55)
• Feedback about Dan’s giant hands gets a Reddit photo visual joke.
• Debates about best ways to “shake and bake” (no more plastic bag in the box – “better for the environment” gripes).
  • “So how am I supposed to shake the pork chops?... Just throw breadcrumbs in the air and run around with the pork chop?” – Matt (31:09)
• Discourses on college fandom, “Civil War” rivalry (Oregon Ducks v. Oregon State Beavers), and evolving meaning of rivalries.
  • “Those two fan mentalities that you discussed Tuesday are rooted in the 50s and the 60s by people who refuse to move on from how they felt as kids.” – Listener (28:16)

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4. Bears Front Office, Coaches & Shout-Outs

[41:03–43:23]

• A fan lays out GM Ryan Poles’ impressive series of moves and acquisitions over 2022–2025, systematically crediting Chicago’s competitive turnaround.
  • “His fingerprints are all over this. We, for the time being, have taken the north and are at least threatening to never give it back.” – Listener “Buddy from Rockford” (43:22)
• Light-hearted ribbing about former Bears coaches (Eberflus confusion, Trestman pantless, etc.)

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5. The Top 10 Packers of All-Time (Signature Segment)

[47:32–74:01] This weekly segment is DBU’s comic masterpiece – not lists of football players (well, not many), but of ANYTHING “packer” or “Packers.” The hosts each draft their own wild top-10 lists.

Matt’s “Top 10 Packers” (Selected Items, timestamps 47:32–59:44):

• Snack Packs (pudding cups) (49:00)
• Packing Tape (49:42)
• Backpack (“Otzï the Iceman” had the oldest one, 3300 BC) (50:00)
• Green Bay Packers’ cameo in Pitch Perfect 2 (Clay Matthews sings Bootylicious, 53:25)
• Druid Peak Wolf Pack (Yellowstone wolves) (54:59)
• Mayflower Transit (moving company) (55:59)
• Leader of the Pack (song) (56:25)
• Gustavus Swift (meat packing tycoon) (57:59)
• The Wolf Pack (The Hangover movies) (58:59)
• Pac-Man (video game) (59:05)
• The Rat Pack (Sinatra, Dean Martin, etc.) – #1 (59:44)
• Honorable Mentions: Fanny packs, Brat Pack (80s actors)

Dan’s “Top 10 Packers” (60:00–74:01):

• Honorable mention: Chicago Packer Newsletter (produce handlers, 1899–1910)
• Garwood Load Packer: First standardized garbage truck (60:55)
• Cultipacker: Farm implement for seedbeds (61:44)
• thepacker.com: Fresh produce industry news (62:36)
• Will Packer: Hollywood producer, now Falcons part-owner (63:30)
• David Packer: Actor (starred as Daniel Bernstein in NBC miniseries V) (64:13)
• Billy Packer: College hoops commentator (65:43)
• NBA’s Chicago Packers: Expansion franchise (now the Wizards) (66:52)
• The Packers (R&B group): Steve Cropper, Booker T & the MGs ties (68:06)
• Alfred Packer: Notorious Colorado cannibal (69:21)
• #1: The “packer” as in phallic packing prosthetic, “pack and play” culture (70:56)

Notable:

• Zero crossover picks—“the first time in the history of this bit we’ve had zero crossovers.” (59:53)
• Raunchy, bizarre, and surprisingly educational. Laughter throughout as each explains oddball entries (“Grandma’s number one” joke on the packer prosthetic, 73:20)

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6. Sports Betting Picks (“DBU Picks”), Closing Banter, and More

[74:28–77:20]

• Dan’s bet: “Bears plus six and a half (vs. Packers), because the Bears will win outright.” (74:37)
• Matt’s bets:
  • Bulls–Pacers game props: Nikola Vucevic over 1.5 3PM, Pascal Siakam over 2 steals, Jay Huff over 2 blocks.
  • “If you have another option… whatever the turnover number is for the Bulls, take the over.” (76:35)
• Playful sign-off: Their Top 10 segment “sets you up for your weekend” and provides “material to regale your friends during commercial breaks.” (74:01)
• Next week: They’ll do “Top 10 Browns” for Cleveland week.

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Notable Quotes

• On fandom:
  • “Be vulnerable… be present… open up to the possibility… let yourself open up to it, to the possibility.” – Dan (19:40)
• On Bears O-Line boy band names:
  • “I pancake them.” – ‘Block Street Boys’ persona (16:23)
• On meat prices:
  • “So how am I supposed to shake the pork chops in a way that’s good for the environment? Just throw breadcrumbs in the air and run around with the pork chop?” – Matt (31:09)
• On Bears–Packers traditions:
  • “… rooted in the 50s and the 60s by people who refuse to move on from how they felt as kids.” (28:16)
• On Al Michaels’ Lake Placid moment:
  • “Yeah, I’ve heard of it.” – Al Michaels smirks, with everyone laughing at the baker (13:04)
• On Packers Top 10:
  • “We had very, very different lists. And we’re going to have to do something again for the second meeting…” – Matt (73:47)

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Overall Tone

• Unfiltered, Chicago-local, irreverent, smart-alecky, and listener-oriented.
• Wide-ranging – expect festival-of-tangents energy, sometimes more “sports & everything” than Xs and Os.
• Interactive: Listeners are a big part of the content.

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Key Timestamps

• 00:48–03:03: Bears–Packers pre-game/injury news
• 06:23–24:53: Friday Feedback Friday (listeners, app, community)
• 13:03–13:47: Al Michaels/Lake Placid pie anecdote
• 17:45: O-Line “Block Street Boys” bit
• 19:05–19:40: Bears fandom & mental health
• 47:32–74:01: Top 10 Packers of All-Time (signature segment)
• 74:37–77:20: DBU Picks (sports betting)

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode delivers everything Bernstein and Abbatacola are known for—quick wit, total honesty, wild deep cuts, and committed local angles. There’s fodder for diehard Bears fans (and “real” Chicago sports people), but also plenty for those who love comedy, cultural detours, and creative community interaction. If you want to understand why Chicago sports radio/podcasting isn’t like anywhere else, start here—especially with the Top 10 Packers segment, the ultimate “bit” within a “bit.”

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For Forward Progress (detailed Bears–Packers Xs & Os), listen to the affiliated episode dropping post-game.

Transcript

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[Dan Bernstein]

Dan Bernstein Unfiltered Unfiltered on 312 sports.

[Matt Abaticola]

It is the Friday before Bears packers round one in 2025 and this is Dan Bernstein Unfiltered. And we are presented in partnership with with my bookie, I'm Dan Bernstein. That is executive producer Matt Abaticola. And really the big news before we get to what we're doing today, which is Friday feedback Friday and our top 10 packers is the news that came out of the game last night. And we're going to get to this obviously, when we dive deep on the game in forward progress a little later on in the day. But Brian Branch of the Lions is apparently now believed to be out for the season with a torn Achilles. That is enormous. It is huge. Probably their most impactful defensive player outside of Aiden Hutchinson. So it's, it's that that's a major change to the NFC north race from here on in.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And then you, you add that to the Devonte Wyatt injury for the Green Bay Packers, a significant injury in the middle of their defensive line. It just, you know, seems like things are falling in place here and there for the Chicago Bears as they're getting healthier on the other side of it as well too. And you know, on a national perspective, you know, it's a lot of people are saying that the packers should win this game. Being at Lambeau at home. It's one that I'm really excited to see. The next big test for the Bears. They, they aced the test, as you put it last week, Dan, against Philadelphia in Philly. See how they show up against Lambeau this weekend where they're in that game right now at six and a half point underdogs for, for this, this game. Looking at at my bookie before we got set up here.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, we are going to have our DBU picks coming up a little bit later on in the show, so I've been working on those in the last 15 minutes or so and I think I got a couple of winners here.

[Dan Bernstein]

But I'm very excited though for this game. I'm looking forward to getting that post game show going. Remember we'll be on Live Forward Progress right after the game ends. So what is that? Somewhere around 6:30 ish or so. But we'll we'll start when the game ends and hopefully talk and recap a Bears victory up in Lambeau Field to get them to 10 and 3 on the year.

[Matt Abaticola]

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[Dan Bernstein]

It has not. And wow. More than others.

[Matt Abaticola]

Wow. Yeah. So thank you for being a quick on the response there. If you have yet to do so, go to the Apple App Store, go to Google play, download the 312Sports app, and get rolling. It might be your easiest way to interact with the show, to send us all kinds of feedback whether the people have sent video, audio. And we're just, we're just figuring out how to use this. All right now because they kind of said, hey, here you go. And it was like getting a Christmas gift that we were not expecting. And all of a sudden, this thing is absolutely up and running and going, and there's going to be contests, polls, instant reactions, and opportunities for you to win stuff and get stuff. It's. So make sure you have it. I even, I even told my parents, I said, download the app. And I thought I'd have to walk them through it. My dad's like, oh, all right, got it already.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, no, your dad, Your dad's technically smarter than you are.

[Matt Abaticola]

So, Yeah, I think so. He's like, oh, yeah, I'll go download it right now. Okay, great. All right.

[Dan Bernstein]

One of listeners who took full advantage of the. The audio message opportunity, we thank you for the multiple submissions. And I saw, I saw on one of the comments on one of the YouTube shows, he warned us that he was going to take advantage of. Of being able to use it. And he's like, I'm going to use this until y' all take it away from me. So you're living up to your. Your promise already, so thank you.

[Matt Abaticola]

You're in charge of that.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm not in charge of anything.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, you are. You're going to be in charge of making anything. I know I'm putting you in charge of making all those decisions. Decisions. But. And, and it's. It's really interesting to me. And maybe this is talking out of school, but I don't care that you can tell when the, when you're penetrating a, like a larger audience or word is getting out there. When you can tell from some of the comments that they don't get the bit or they don't know what we're doing and who we are and what they. So it's fun. Who are these guys? Are they real Bears fans? I don't think these people are bearing down. Tell them to bear down. Who are these people? It's, it's so just getting the tone of something that's like, okay, enjoy. Enjoy the ride.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm really close to bearing down. I have to finish anchoring down before I can bear down. Yeah, I'm almost done anchoring down. Yesterday was almost the final bit of anchoring down, but I'm not quite done anchoring yet. But I'm gonna bear down once I anchor down. Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

When you're telling a podcast that it needs to bear down.

Okay. All right. Thank you for being here and thank you for the feedback. And it's much appreciated. But when you start scrolling through some of this stuff and you get these quizzical. Oh, welcome, Enjoy.

[Dan Bernstein]

Thank you for the feedback. And it is, it is exactly that.

[Matt Abaticola]

It's feedback. It might, it might take a little while to some to figure out exactly what's going on here, but that's okay. I think other people within the comments will. There's a lot of self policing that's going on. There are a lot of people who are willing to sort of roll. You're going to raise an eyebrow or explain things. And that's been fun. Now, we had, we should say we had a bit of a technical problem last week when it came to Friday feedback. Friday.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. You had like a power surge.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, I did. And it wasn't in my house either. It was just me personally. I just, I surged with power and it threw everything off. It happens every once in a while. It's like a hot flash, except it's power, power arm activate. But there was one that I saved from last week because it's just too good. And I think this.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, is it the one I asked you to save?

[Matt Abaticola]

It is okay. It is good.

[Dan Bernstein]

So, yeah, this one, this needed to be shared with the world.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, I'm going to start with this. And it had to do. It came off of our discussion of holiday pies, whether it was for Thanksgiving or around Christmas, and the comfort food of pumpkin pie and pecan pie And Dutch apple and sweet potato pies. This was sent in by Sheriff Scabbs longtime name and he said my friend Ian Carmel, he's known as a comedian and author, he's a former co host of the Late Late show with James Corden. And he told me this pie centric story that I wanted to share with you. So my friend Ian was hired by Nikki Glaser to write for her weekly segment After Thursday Night Football last season and it's mid November and the show's crew was in Philly for Commander's Eagles. One of the producers had a had a brother who owns a pie shop in Lake Placid, New York. Okay, that's important, so remember that. And in the spirit of the holiday, my brother or that brother made a trip to visit his at work and brought an abundant amount of freshly baked pies for the writer's room. All these pies from Lake Placid and they're having pre show meetings. And famed chef David Chang was also visiting and he heard there was pie to be had. Invites himself to a helping while commingling with the baker and the Thursday Night Football writers. And shortly thereafter, Chang greets Ryan Fitzpatrick and Richard Sherman, who notices Chang enjoy the dessert and they invite themselves for a few slices. So they grab there, someone else notices and the process repeats. And before long the entire crew shows up for pie and word spreads all the way to Al Michaels, who also wants on in. So the room is packed and Al Michaels doesn't seem to want to socialize with the more boisterous personalities. So he takes a portion of a piece of and he steps over to where the writers are huddled in some dark, introverted corner of the room. And the producer's brother, Starstruck, nervously pipes up and starts a casual conversation with Al Michaels, saying, yeah, so I own the pie shop where all these pies came from and it's in Lake Placid, New York. I don't suppose you've ever been there before. Which would be a completely legitimate question to almost anyone on earth other than Al fucking Michaels, who arguably has the most iconic single call in the history of sports broadcasting, famously taking place at the Olympics in Lake Placid.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's so good.

[Matt Abaticola]

So Michaels smirked and said, yeah, I've heard of it. Reacting as if the baker was being sarcastic even though he was completely serious. Michaels took a bite, made an approving nod toward the baker as if to non verbally say damn good pie. And walked out of the room while everyone else, with an earshot of the brief encounter let the baker know what an idiot he was.

It's so good. I don't suppose you've heard of Lake Placid, Al Michaels, like what a huge.

[Dan Bernstein]

Moment for this guy in his pie shop. Like David Chang, one of the, I mean one of the most well known chefs in the world is there eating your pie and who knows what could have come out of that. And it ends with asking Al Michaels if he's ever heard of Lake Placid. It's so good.

[Matt Abaticola]

Now I think we set a Friday Feedback Friday record for response to a nickname for the Bears offensive line and or the interior of the offensive line. And so I can't read everything but there was. We were trying to settle on a an agreed upon compromise nickname. It's just not the way to do it. So I'm just going to read the funniest thing that I saw that took, I think a lot of creativity.

And this was sent in by Cam in Bridgeport who says, I am thinking of the Bears offensive line as a band, specifically a boy band. And I want to introduce to you the Block Street Boys.

[Dan Bernstein]

This was a good one.

[Matt Abaticola]

It's late 90s, early 2000s. The Block Street Boys boy band. Bubblegum pop crossed with accidental death metal growling. Here are the members.

Theo, the heartthrob Benedet. He has him here instead of Ozzie Tropillo at the moment. Left tackle, lead vocals. The pretty one with the flowing locks. Cheekbones sharp enough to slice open Amazon packages. Eyes that say, I'll protect your blind side. He's Canadian, so he's aggressively polite. He starts every song with a soft sorry, eh? And quietly apologizes to the microphone after every song. Next to him is Joe, the old soul toonie, left guard, deep harmonies and dad vibes. The veteran who's been in the league since the Obama administration, wears reading glasses on stage and gives relationship advice between songs like son, if she don't block for you, she ain't the one. He has two super bowl rings, uses them as wedding ring props during the ballad portions. He's the only member who actually understands how royalties work. Next to him, Drew, the cute one. Dolman, the center who also does the beatboxing and the high notes. The baby face Snapper looks like he's 19. He's actually 28 and married with three kids. His tour rider demands Goldfish crackers, the multicolored ones only uncrustables cut into perfect triangles and chocolate milk. Number four, Jonah the Heartbreaker Jackson, right guard and designated shirt ripper and certified panty dropper. His arms are sleeved, looks like he was carved neck tat that just says taxes because even the IRS is scared to audit him. Walks on stage like he already slept with your girlfriend and feels kind of bad about it, but not really. His solo move is ripping his mesh jersey clean off mid chorus and then tossing the sweaty shreds into the crowd while growling. Who wants second? Grown women faint. Grown men reconsider their life choices. Security has a dedicated Jonah Debris trash bag. He's dated three Victoria's Secret Angels, two pop stars and one very confused Uber Eats driver. All of them still text him at 3am and he responds to none. Has a burner phone just for apologies. He never sends his catchphrase, delivered with a smirk, I don't break hearts baby, I pancake them. And next to him Darnell, the shy one, right right tackle, bass voice and brooding songwriter. The 6 5, 330 pound poet who writes all their lyrics on the back of play call sheets. Never speaks in interviews, just stares intensely until the reporter apologizes and leaves. His love songs are titled like I want to protect you forever. Girls faint when he whispers into the mic and those are the block street boys.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's really good. That was very creative and probably took a very long time to put together. So nice getting it. Made me think of something I saw the other day online. It was a picture of Prince and it said Prince was the only guy who could show up at your party in frills, steal your girlfriend, then steal her clothes, then steal someone else's girl in your girlfriend's clothes.

[Matt Abaticola]

Who wrote that?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know. I just, I saw it online. It started floating around with memes. Oh that's so good though. Could Chopin frill steal your girl, then steal her clothes and steal someone else's girl in your girlfriend's clothes. It's so funny.

[Matt Abaticola]

That is so good.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And true.

[Matt Abaticola]

Andrew writes and says, I was having a conversation with a Bears fan who said he thought that the Bears would probably lose to the packers this week. I asked him what he was basing that on and the answer was not based in the reality of coaching or schemes or matchups. It was based on the odds of X consecutive wins. And I think that this fan is just not willing to be burned by this team. And it reminded me of Matt, what you've been saying for the last few weeks, why not the Bears and Dan, what you've been saying. And that is have fun.

I've been heartened by the mental health talk on the show and one of the things that I've gleaned on my journey is that mental health professionals speak a language that I had to learn before I could begin to heal. And in this Bears discussion, Matt, what I hear you saying is be vulnerable. And Dan, what I hear you saying is be present. Both sentiments, no matter how you state them, can open a larger aperture of enjoyment for this season.

That's a really good.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's really. Well, yeah. Really well thought out and well said. Yeah, I like that. Be vulnerable with it. Don't be afraid to. To be heartbroken again. You know, let yourself. Let yourself open up to it, to the possibility. I like that. That's good. I have. I'm there. I'm ready to go. And, you know, we'll. We'll talk more about the game. We'll talk more about the game.

[Matt Abaticola]

Coming up. Kevin in Jefferson park says, I've been reflecting on Ben Johnson's shirt launch that earned the city free hot dogs at the bulwark of democracy that is the Wieners Circle, and what the recent batch of Bears coaches would have done similarly in such a situation. For example, Matt Eberfluss gets completely confused and takes his pants off instead. Matt Negy makes a deconstructed hot dog that immediately falls apart. John Fox begins to take off his polo shirt and then falls asleep. Mark Trestman gives away hamburgers and was, for some reason already pantsless.

He says, thanks for the great shows. I look forward to this new game, Are youe Faster Than Andrew Billings? Where Matt reads people slash animals, farm equipment, and Dan has to guess whether or not they can beat Andrew Billings. 40 time. Not 40 hands time, mind you. Different segment altogether. Kevin, thank you for that. Much appreciated. And by the way, I want to say, too, just because there's so many submissions that are coming in now, and that's a great thing. Don't feel bad if I don't end up presenting or we don't end up presenting one of these things for Friday. Feedback Friday.

[Dan Bernstein]

Keep sending.

[Matt Abaticola]

Just keep sending because it's fun. I really enjoy it. And it's. It. It's always interesting to me to see what sparks the most creativity or strikes the most impassioned or inspired thoughts here. So our discussion about the Pavia family. The. The Flying Pavias.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

The Pavia Gang.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, I don't want to use the. Well, I guess you can if they're getting arrested and thrown in jail for being drunk and disorderly. What is it? It's Javier. And is it Raul or.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think Raul's correct.

[Matt Abaticola]

Ramon. I think that's wrong. But it's. And Diego saying that it's like Grand Theft Auto. So I said, can it really be like that? Well, Zach says, I moved from Aurora to Rio Rancho, New Mexico a little over five years ago. Rio Rancho borders Albuquerque to the north. It's a growing city and I heard you guys talking about the dumbass Pavia clan and how they said Albuquerque is like Grand Theft Auto. While it's not entirely lawless, like the video game where people beat prostitutes with a bat, it does have its problems. First off, I've never seen so many cars without license plates in my life. Homelessness, rampant drug use and car thefts are just a few of the big issues the city's dealing with. Daily street racing is a huge underground event. The city has tried various ways to put a stop to street racing, like building an actual drag strip. Also, dog fighting rings and cockfighting have been a thing in the south valley of Albuquerque. Road rage incidents happen all the time. When we first moved here, my wife told me she was told to not beep your horn when a light turns green and the person just sits there. Locals who have lived here their whole lives refer to themselves as Burkenos and they take some sort of pride in the stupidity that goes on in the city by saying, that's Albuquerque. They have a mentality that they're big and bad and nobody should mess with them. Have ever left Albuquerque or New Mexico. I understand what he means when he comps this city to gta because sometimes certain parts of the city seem dirty and lawless. I've told my daughter numerous times, or certain parts of the city she shouldn't be in after dark. And New Mexicans are prideful group. I haven't heard any negative things said about his statement yet, but I'm sure some people won't be happy. And when I moved here, I remember hearing Pavia's name mentioned because he led the New Mexico Military Institute to a junior college championship. And he then transferred to New Mexico State. And he got into some trouble years ago because he was caught on camera pissing on the New Mexico Lobos practice field logo because he was upset he wasn't recruited by unm.

Guy, that's your dude.

[Dan Bernstein]

I guess it's sounds like a pretty.

[Matt Abaticola]

Bad place, doesn't it? Jesus, I'm glad we were only on the tarmac.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, for sure. So they want to. They want to curb the amount of street racing so they built like a drag strip and people are like, fuck that. We're going to keep doing underground drag Racing.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. I think the point was like, if people were. It's sort of like if. If people are using the streets to play underground tennis, you want to probably build tennis courts. Right?

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. Give them a place to say, hey, very generous. To build like a drag strip. You should take advantage of it.

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't think it's that hard, but they build, say, here, you want it? You want a drag race? Here, Here you go. Here's your drag strip.

[Dan Bernstein]

The photo I want to share with you from part of our feedback here.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Our Reddit community, that is. That is well and live and. And growing.

[Matt Abaticola]

I didn't know we had one.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it's something that our guy Schmutzy set up for us and he monitors that and I'll check in occasionally on it. But someone sent a photo. Remember the other day when I was talking about how large my hands looked drinking those small cans and yes, it looked like. So someone put this photo together.

[Matt Abaticola]

I'll just share it with you here.

[Dan Bernstein]

Up on the screen. So that is. That is actually holding a can of beer. Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay. So that's your hand. It just happens to be the same color your hand. And then Andre the Giant's hand. Okay, I got it. Now yours is. That's green. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

Is that Molson Canadian?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know what it is.

[Matt Abaticola]

I think it is good for Andre. I wonder where that was. That reminds me of fishing right there.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, it sure is.

[Matt Abaticola]

It's Molson Canadian. Yeah, that's that. Oh, that. That tastes like shore lunch, man.

[Dan Bernstein]

But that's a regular can.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, I know.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's insane.

[Matt Abaticola]

He's a big guy. He was in our top 10 giants.

[Dan Bernstein]

So thanks for sharing that photo. Appreciate that.

[Matt Abaticola]

We also discussed the idea of clinging to old football traditions when it comes especially to college fandoms and how insane college fandoms are. Said you guys discuss this Tuesday. And I think they're closely related to each other. Your discussion of old fashioned fan loyalty to college football's right on. The sport has evolved drastically and quickly. There's a lot of fans who've refused to evolve with it. And the loyalty to good old State comes from an era when a football national championship didn't matter very much. Depending on what part of the country you were from, the thing you rooted for was your team winning the Rose bowl or the Cotton bowl or the Sugar bowl. Or depending on what state you were from, you might only care about the Iron bowl or the Civil War or the old Oaken Bucket or one of several of Paul Bunyan's axes. And after that was.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wait a second. I'm sorry, The Civil War. Is that a. Do you mean, like, the actual Civil War? Is it.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, I forgot which game that was.

[Dan Bernstein]

I didn't know that was a game. All right.

[Matt Abaticola]

I don't know if that. Is that Illinois, Missouri, or is that.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'll take a look. But just, I want people know down south that the Civil War is over. Just so y' all know, that's a.

[Matt Abaticola]

War between the states. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Just letting you know that one's done.

[Matt Abaticola]

We'll rise again after whatever it was was over. If the writers voted your team the best in the country, that was cool. Yeah. It also meant you rooted for, like, one of six or seven teams, but none of that mattered if your team lost the big game. The same mentality applies to the earlier discussion of the I don't care if The Bears go 2 and 15, as long as those two are against the packers fans. That kind of thinking comes from the same era when NFL championships were nice, but it wasn't the most important. And it applies to the early super bowl era. I'm not old enough to remember when the Bears were winning NFL championships, but my theory is that while those were cool and fun, it was the packers games that you really got up for. And, yes, I'm pinning this all on baby boomers. They were burgeoning football fans in the era I'm talking about. They're the ones who care about the games against the packers or the Rose bowl or whatever, and some of them pass that down to their kids. Those two fan mentalities that you discussed Tuesday are rooted in the 50s and the 60s by people who refuse to move on from how they felt as kids.

[Dan Bernstein]

I like it. All right. You'll never get this right. I would have never guessed that these are the two schools involved in the Civil War football game.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right. The Civil War football game is.

I'm not even going to guess.

[Dan Bernstein]

Would have never guessed.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

The Oregon Ducks and the Oregon State Beavers.

[Matt Abaticola]

The Beavers.

[Dan Bernstein]

The Beavers and the Ducks. That is the Civil War. That doesn't seem right, right?

[Matt Abaticola]

No, it doesn't seem really worth it.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, it doesn't. It'd be like, all right, you go. You're good. The Ducks and the Beavers. Like, does that.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, what a war.

[Dan Bernstein]

The Ducks and the Beavers.

[Matt Abaticola]

I guess if you live in the.

[Dan Bernstein]

Palouse, I'm gonna stop them from swimming down my stream. Damn it. Block them off.

[Matt Abaticola]

What a war. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right. We're gonna fly over your Dam, today I learned.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, here is. This is.

[Dan Bernstein]

That was a letdown, wasn't it? Very underwhelming. Completely.

[Matt Abaticola]

Cole in Chattanooga says after listening to your review of the distillation of vanilla cream witches Brew Halloween KitKat, I want to ensure other hobbyists of discounted food items are warned from a past experience of yours that I remember. Matt wasn't with the Score when you encountered what I remember to be a discount green tinted Italian beef in an opaque tub. I remember that everyone in your house refused to eat it and you did and you found it to not be to your standards of discounted items. He's right. I did.

[Dan Bernstein]

Green meat.

[Matt Abaticola]

You ate green meat? Well, I think. I don't remember. I think it was kind of gray. He said, I've used that guidance to only purchase discount items at grocery stores that I can actually see, for example, how gray the meat is or how broken down the bakery item may be. I feel this would be a great public service announcement and a cautionary tale for those venturing into the world of discount food items. Yeah, it's a, it's a great world, especially in this current world in which we're living. I bought shaken bake yesterday.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Matt Abaticola]

It'S five bucks. It's five bucks for a package of shake and bake. Regular craft pork shake and bake. Nothing spectacular, not a family size. And then what pisses you off even more?

They used to include that really good plastic bag.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah, no, we've talked about this. They don't have the bag anymore.

[Matt Abaticola]

But not only do they not have the bag, they actually had the audacity to write to print on the box. Now with no plastic bag, better for the environment.

So how am I supposed to shake the pork chops in a way that's good for the environment? Just throw breadcrumbs in the air and run around with the pork chop. Well, I was like, seriously, what am I supposed to find a giant pine box just for shaking?

[Dan Bernstein]

No. Maybe use like a large Tupperware and you know, put it in, seal it and shake the Tupperware up and that way you can wash the Tupperware and you're being better for the environment, Dan. Or do you still use juul bags?

[Matt Abaticola]

I use whatever I got, I use. I had a leftover bagel freezer bag from New York bagel and bialy. Because I love those freezer bags. So now I'll get extras and I'll save them and I'll use them for shake and bake.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't understand why you just don't designate like one gallon Ziploc bag.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's only the shake and make bag.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And then walk like rinse it out and then snap it somewhere.

[Matt Abaticola]

Not a bad idea.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I think not.

[Matt Abaticola]

Not a bad idea. It just pisses me off that they. It's cheaper for them. Like, oh, well, we're just. This is better for the environment.

[Dan Bernstein]

So is. Is $5 cheap? Is that what you're saying?

[Matt Abaticola]

No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, it's expensive.

[Matt Abaticola]

Are you kidding? Breadcrumbs.

[Dan Bernstein]

I've never bought shaken.

[Matt Abaticola]

And then they say, they say one bag is for eight pork chops and what world pork chops. This big tiny medallions.

[Dan Bernstein]

What do you get two out of it? Two? I thought all the grocery prices were coming down. I thought. I didn't know it'd be so expensive.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, it's insane that. That's why I'm buying all the discounted stuff. It's completely insane. Here's a thought. When we were talking about some of the college football stuff, this is from James. And James says, what up, James? You guys referred to college football as being weird. I agree. College football is now more about season to season, given how players are rightfully allowed to move around. And gone are the days of seeing a player grow up with your team. Here's what I would love. The Big Ten, the SEC expand to 20 teams each in both basketball and football. Let's do a relegation system of two divisions within each conference. As a Boilermaker, I'm in college football. Hell, we're not competitive in football. Our decent players are lost to top tier programs. Were we to play in a second tier of the Big Ten in football, we could field a competitive team in that tier. Given that system, teams would play the nine teams in their tier, bottom two in tier one drop to the second, top two in the second tier move up. I'm fine with maintaining the rivalry games as non conference matchups. Championship games are one versus two. Or ditch the championship game altogether for I care. A tiered system would allow the Boilermakers, for example, to have a truly competitive and must watch game to game in Big Ten basketball plays, Purdue would be in the top tier. Whether there's financial incentive for each tier would remain to be seen. I want to enjoy Purdue football again, frankly. Money aside, were Purdue to announce they're going to D3, I'd be all for it. If it meant the insanity of meaningless football seasons would end. Well, that's kind of sad.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it is kind of sad. I do like the idea of relegation though. And I'd Love to see that in Major League Baseball. I think that'd be fun.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, you can't. I mean, we. As we've discussed many times, the relegation system is great, but because it was created organically in the way that it was, I don't think you can impose a relic, a relegation system here just because of how much money that you have in the pool and what you would do for, like, secondary television deals. Because the television is so important. Everything.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I know. I think you could do it. You just take the two worst teams in baseball, put them in Triple A, and drop up two teams from Triple A, and that's it.

[Matt Abaticola]

I wish it were that easy.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, you know, it's all going to be solid once they have a salary.

[Matt Abaticola]

Cap in baseball, of course. Oh, yes. They'll tell you that'll solve everything.

[Dan Bernstein]

Everything will be fine. Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

Because, you see, Rob Manfred is putting together this fan council.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah, I'm going to be on it. I'm going to be on it. And then I'm up. I'm actually up next for the Secretary of War.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay. The coordinate, the coordinator, I think, is what you're gonna call yourself, right? Yeah. And you're gonna have a hat that just says war on it.

[Dan Bernstein]

War and Beer.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay. War and Beer. That was Tolstoy's sequel to War and Peace.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it was a forward by Ramon Pavia.

[Matt Abaticola]

They asked him, leo, we need another book out of you. You got another in you? That's it. I wrote Anna Karenina and I did. And I. And I did this. No, no, no, no. War and something. Because we got to feed the beast here. I'm getting called out by this. This came in through the app, actually. And this was Jason.

Who said, dan, you were talking about being referred to as a loud flosser by your wife. And then you said that you brush and you then floss. Every dentist, hygienist, and person who's ever white knuckled a cleaning would like you to know it's backwards. Think of it this. If you're flossing after brushing, that's like vacuuming your living room after you've shampooed the carpet. The job gets done. But now the universe is judging your life choices. The ADA insists the order doesn't matter, which is adorable, because, of course, they'd say that that keeps big fluoride happy. The only correct sequence is simple floss, then brush. Otherwise, you're rearranging debris like a coach shuffling the depth chart during a preseason game. I say this with respect, affection, and a Sincere desire to keep your listeners from showing up to their next checkup looking like they followed your advice.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wow, that was harsh.

[Matt Abaticola]

It is. Because at my dentist, my dentist, my dentist, wherever I go, I know he goes. Well, that's weird.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like, Mariano's getting cheap meat and the dentist is buying.

[Matt Abaticola]

You don't eat that. So at my, when I get my dentist, when I, when I get a cleaning, they do the, the polishing with the gritty stuff. And gritty actually comes out. Actually, the flyer's mascot actually comes in and cleans my teeth. And then they floss. And then they do the floss. Yeah, then they hit the. Yeah, but they do the flossing after. So are they wrong? Should they floss first and then do the polishing?

[Dan Bernstein]

Hmm. I think here's the thing, and I'm sure that emailer or whatever came through was correct. I'm sure he's right. I'm not gonna argue or debate that, but whatever order you want to go, I would say just make sure you do both. Well, just make sure you're doing both.

[Matt Abaticola]

Obviously.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Well, not obviously. The people, like, have you seen people's teeth?

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes. Yeah. So I know.

[Dan Bernstein]

Just take care of them. Do both.

[Matt Abaticola]

I know.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's too.

[Matt Abaticola]

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[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, the Aura frame is great.

[Matt Abaticola]

Seriously, check it out.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it's really cool. I'm really, really happy that we have it. Love putting up all the new photos too. And then you could just, you could take a photo one day and just add it and you could just have millions and millions on there. So go after it.

[Matt Abaticola]

Trying to find the.

[Dan Bernstein]

Or you could put up pictures. I started putting pictures of you holding fish.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's what I want to do. Just there's. I'm still embargoed from sending. At least Jason likes them. But Beth and Zoe just are not interested in fish that I catch. So I was thinking, that's so weird.

[Dan Bernstein]

I can't believe they're not right. It surprises me.

[Matt Abaticola]

I was thinking, what? Just because one ruined our lives for a while.

[Dan Bernstein]

Sorry you're not triggered by that.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. What the hell is wrong already? Yeah, right. Seriously, get over it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wow.

[Matt Abaticola]

Here is one from this is Buddy in Rockford. I love this.

We finally have our answer to the age old question, what does Nishan Wright have to do to get a game ball? But if you'll allow me to expand on the concept of giving game shovels to members of the Bears administration, a shovel should go out to somebody that Wright made a point of mentioning personally, and that is Ryan Poles. So let's do a time travel exercise here. It's 2022 polls, is signed in January. And while those initial signings left much to be desired, he then drafted Kyler Gordon and jaquan brisker in 2023. He pants as Carolina in exchange for the first overall pick, Bryce Young. The Bears get DJ Moore along with draft capital that has now turned into Darnell Wright, Tyreek Stevenson, Caleb Williams and Luther the Young receiver in 2024. In the off season, he acquires Kevin Byard and Deandre Swift. In addition to Caleb Williams, he drafts Roma Dunze, Tori Taylor and Austin Booker. He trades Khalil Herbert to Cincinnati for a seventh round pick that ultimately becomes Kyle Manuel.

[Dan Bernstein]

Guy yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

In 2025, he remodels the offensive line by acquiring Joe Great at going out to Dinner Tuney, Drew Dahlman and Jonah Jackson, while adding Grady Jarrett and the aforementioned Nishan Wright. In addition to Burden and Menungi, he drafts Colston Loveland and Ozzie Tripillo. And then finally, with our backs increasingly against the wall due to Injuries, he signed C.J. gardner, Johnson and Joe Tryon Shoyinka. Good luck finding a player among those I just mentioned who hasn't been integral to to the success. We can't ignore the fact that Ben Johnson no doubt has wielded significant influence over the 2025 draft picks, nor can we understate how players had developed under the tutelage of his staff. We can't ignore that several acquisitions were chosen specifically because of their ties to our staff like Gardner, Johnson and Jackson. But polls deserves a tremendous amount of credit. His fingerprints are all over this. We, for the time being, have taken the north and are at least threatening to never give it back.

That's good.

[Dan Bernstein]

That is good. Yeah. Can't argue any of that. That's. That's good stuff.

[Matt Abaticola]

That is Buddy from Rockford. And I want to close this out with a thought from our old friend Pete, who says.

It'S not a drunken Pete Hegseth trying to blow us up and then making jokes about it. Or murdering people and then going on Twitt to brag about it.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, I wasn't even there for it. Don't worry.

[Matt Abaticola]

But he left.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Matt Abaticola]

All right, I see that.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's hard to see all the fog of war.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. Hey, fog of war. Not literal. Not literal.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it's called smoke.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, that. That's what fog of war means. Confusion. It doesn't actually mean fog in war. I still can't get over that. This is. This is Pete. He says, guys, I am one of those with the irrational college football fandom.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh boy.

[Matt Abaticola]

I have Illini gear. I have an Illini football helmet. Snack bowl.

I am three years past Medicare eligibility and I still care way too much about a program at a school I left behind in 1982. I don't feel the same way about Illini basketball. I was used to care about both equally, but I can't do hoops. I think it has to do with the anonymity of football where I don't feel like I have to get to know the influx of new players each year to enjoy the game like I do with college basketball to steal from Jerry Seinfeld. I'm cheering for Headgear.

Okay. I think the self awareness is important. It is good and I hope that makes you fun. And thank you for everybody once again who has contributed this week and the one holdover from last week to Friday Feedback Friday that is only going to be re energized or further energized by the 312 sports app.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, the one about Al Michaels that's right up there for me at the top of the list along with the the review of the Baja Blast Thanksgiving pie.

Those are, those are two, those are two special entries into our Friday Feedback Friday. So thank you for those.

[Matt Abaticola]

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Is it that time?

[Dan Bernstein]

I think it is that time. Are you ready?

[Matt Abaticola]

Hold on. Let me get.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hold on. That's why I asked you.

[Matt Abaticola]

I know. Well, because we're gonna. The committee's gonna go first.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. We always go first.

[Matt Abaticola]

Okay. Hold on. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, so let me pull this out here. Committee gave me this list this morning. Let me get the first thing.

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, they just came up with it. They've been working all night on top 10 Packers.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, they've been working on this because this is a. Again, this was a really, really broad scope of things when it comes to packers, so took a lot of liberties here in creating the. The top 10 list, along with some honorable mentions that we'll get through as we go along.

[Matt Abaticola]

And let's just mention if you're new to DBU or to 312 sports, that we've been doing this each week where we have looked at the Bears opponent, and then we break down the top 10 of the opponent's name. And this week it's the Green Bay Packers. So these are the actual top 10 packers. We have the committee that lives at Matt's house, and then we have mine.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, so here we're going to start with one honorable mention, and there's some others as we go through the list itself. But the first honorable mention originally came from ConAgra, now owned.

I can remember what company it was. But the. The Pudding Snack Packs. Remember the Pudding Snack Packs?

[Matt Abaticola]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

So that gets an honorable mention for us, the Pudding Snack Packs.

Maybe I have it reversed. Maybe it is ConAgra that still has it now, but I'll take a look at it. Yeah, it is ConAgra. It was originally Hunts, which is then owned now by ConAgra. So the pudding Snack Pack gets a mention of honorable mentions.

[Matt Abaticola]

I remember I used to take those in my school lunchbox when they were still the aluminum cans.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, seriously, what flavor did you always have?

[Matt Abaticola]

Chocolate.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. Always chocolate.

[Matt Abaticola]

Occasionally vanilla, but it was usually chocolate. But yeah, I loved it.

[Dan Bernstein]

I was more of a vanilla guy when I was a kid. I didn't. I wasn't a big, like, chocolate ice cream or chocolate pudding. I always liked vanilla.

[Matt Abaticola]

I was, too, but with. But for some reason, with this, with the snack pack God, you know, that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Brought memories too, with the aluminum can. I totally forgot about that until you just said that.

[Matt Abaticola]

It's great. Oh, yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, number 10 on the list here. Packing tape. Packing tape. If you've ever moved or had to help people move or pack a box, packing tape. It's, it's, it's great stuff. So number number 10 on the 10, the top 10 packers of all time. Number 10 packing tape.

Number nine is the backpack. The backpack, you know, the original back or the oldest backpack ever discovered. I don't know if you know this. Have you heard of. I'm sure you've heard of this because you read everything.

Ot O tz I. Otzi the Iceman.

Like, his remains were found obviously in ice. You know, fossilized. Otzi the Iceman.

[Matt Abaticola]

I didn't know we had a name.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, he had a name. So he had a backpack on him and that dates back to 3300 BC.

[Matt Abaticola]

The Iceman.

He had a backpack.

[Dan Bernstein]

He had a backpack on him. So that's the oldest.

[Matt Abaticola]

Was it a Yan sport?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know what it was. He was on his way to school. Yeah.

[Matt Abaticola]

Or what's the other one that everybody wears? Like, like, what's the. It's like a Scandinavian sport or Jansport. I don't know. Yeah, I always call it.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think it's Jans. I think it's.

[Matt Abaticola]

I call it Yan sport because it's Yan and it's very sportsy. And what's the other one like Yar. Because something fallen carve off Holland or something.

[Dan Bernstein]

I have no idea. Our kids wear Nike. They use Nike ones because I got all these.

[Matt Abaticola]

I got all these baseball backpacks. If you have a kid in travel, baseball and every year you got to buy another one of these. Hold on, let me get it. It's right here. I use it for weightlifting now. Weightlift. You.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, boy. He's something special, folks, I'll tell you that.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, I put, I put weights in it, but the.

[Dan Bernstein]

So like, wait a second.

[Matt Abaticola]

Every single year, every single year you get one of these. What do you. What do you do with the what?

[Dan Bernstein]

So you know, I do what with.

[Matt Abaticola]

It When I do Bulgarian split squats holding 30 pounds in each hand, I have these two. It's because of COVID I needed to like recreate my gym workout.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Matt Abaticola]

So I didn't have 30 pound dumbbells. So I have to put a 20 and a 10 in two backpacks. And then I use them as the weights for my bulk.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, so you don't Wear that. You just. You hold them.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, I do wear this, and then I put even more weight in it for toe raises on the stairs.

[Dan Bernstein]

It can be similar to a weighted vest.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, but I'm literally doing lifting. I'm not running around. I'm lifting the weight.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. All right.

[Matt Abaticola]

I think a weighted vest for toe raises would actually work. It's. It's weight training.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, you just think the weighted vest while walking isn't doing anything.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, we know that you don't burn more calories with it. If you're doing it to burn calories, it's different than trying to build muscle. Yeah. You want to put a weighted vest on and do push ups. That's good. But, yeah, I've got like 15 of these because we had to buy a new one every year.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, that's Wells Park.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. Yeah, you always. Oh, mandatory. You got to get your new backpack.

[Dan Bernstein]

We don't get a new one every year. We've. We. So we've had one for Lyb, and now that we're in slammers, we just get one for slammers now. I'm not. I'm not. There's no. No. No shot buying one every year. It's insane. Oh, God.

[Matt Abaticola]

It was just. Whatever travel team is, they make it. Buy a new one.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, so the bad bath checks in it. The backpack checks in at number nine. Everyone loves a good backpack. Honorable mention there. Also the fanny pack. The fanny pack. It's an honorable mention. Although mostly used by douchebags. Number eight. Number eight. And let me pull this up here so I have the information with me. Number eight is the.

The cameo by the Green Bay packers in Pitch Perfect 2. Pitch Perfect 2. Do you remember that?

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. Bad movie. Pitch Perfect 1 is awesome, but, yes, I do remember it.

[Dan Bernstein]

So five packers players made a cameo in the 2015 film. It was, you know, obviously with Anna Kendrick, Rebel Wilson. The packers that were featured were Clay Matthews, David Bakhtiari, Don Barkley, Josh Sitton, and TJ Lang. They sang a version of Bootylicious during the riff off. But Matthews blanks out when presented with the second category. So I thought. I thought that was really funny to see them in there in that riff off, which I. I still enjoyed Pitch Perfect two. I didn't think it was terrible.

[Matt Abaticola]

Three is horrendous. Three unwatchable.

[Dan Bernstein]

There have been more past three, right? Because I think three is the first one. No, two was. The first one was really good.

[Matt Abaticola]

Good. Yeah. Because Elizabeth Banks didn't direct it.

[Dan Bernstein]

And, yeah, I thought it I thought it was. I thought it was great. So the number 8, the cameo by the packers players in Pitch Perfect 2 comes in at the number 8 on the all time 10 packers all time. 10. Top 10 Jesus Christ packers of all time.

My brain hurts. Number seven, Dan. This might be something up to your alley too. I don't know if you know about these. Have you ever heard of the. The Druid Peak Pack? The Druid Peak Pack. Yellowstone National Park's most famous and largest wolf pack. Formed in the park's reintroduction 1996. Known for its iconic charismatic members. They actually have, you know, they have all different names and numbers.

[Matt Abaticola]

Members of Druid Peak Pack. Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

So they have. They've actually been focused, watched and studied and documentaries have been made about them. And apparently people go just to hopefully get a spot. And I, I don't understand that. Why would you want to go and see a wild wolf pack? And what if they spot you? Then what happens?

[Matt Abaticola]

Depends how wild they are. Depends if they be busy, might be easily distracted.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I don't think they're like domesticated wild animals in, in Yellowstone National. Yeah. Like they get fed and they eat things and do stuff.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah, they probably eat bison. It's worth it. It's just if they're gonna. If they're gonna bother using all of their powers as a pack, they might as well take something down that weighs a ton instead of you.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, if you're like a big. If you're a big. And stay. Yeah, yeah. Dan just said. All right. Number seven is the Druid Peak Pack. Number six. See if you know this off top of your head, Mr. Football. Mayflower transit. The moving company. Packing and moving company.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes. I believe they packed up art models. Cleveland Browns.

Or was it the Baltimore? Baltimore Colts? Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

And who was the owner?

[Matt Abaticola]

The Baltimore Colts. Art model.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nope.

[Matt Abaticola]

Was the. No, no.

[Dan Bernstein]

Who mentioned his daughter on the show? Several times.

[Matt Abaticola]

Ursay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, the Baltimore Colts.

[Matt Abaticola]

And moved. And they moved him to Indianapolis.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep.

[Matt Abaticola]

And that's. It was in the dead of night, was it not?

[Dan Bernstein]

It was in the COVID of night. Yep. That's how good they are at packing and moving.

[Matt Abaticola]

That's right. That's right.

[Dan Bernstein]

In the dark. So number six checks in. Mayflower transit. Number five. Number five, the leader of the pack. The number one hit song, 1964 by the Shangri Las. Shangri La checks in. It was their only hit. It did get to number one in the Billboard 100. Shangri La's only song that anyone knows. Leader of the pack. Honorable mention. There also is Twisted Sisters version of leader of the Pack.

[Matt Abaticola]

No, no. Dee Snider and the boys knocking out.

[Dan Bernstein]

A cover they kid of leader of the pack. And it's, it's super creepy because it reverses the song where it's the girl that drives away and dies in an accident and not the. Not Jimmy, the leader of the pack. Which, by the way, why is Jimmy the leader of a motorcycle gang picking up high school girls at the candy shop?

[Matt Abaticola]

Because that's where they met.

[Dan Bernstein]

Met her at the candy. Yeah, so. But, but the, the twisted sister version is they meet a girl at the candy shop and she drives away after he breaks up with her because his parents said he has to break up with her and she dies in the crash.

[Matt Abaticola]

So then, then everybody OD's on fentanyl and they all go to Albuquerque.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right?

[Matt Abaticola]

The Pocket Gang.

[Dan Bernstein]

So leader of the pack, number five, Twisted Sister gets an honorable mention there. Also number four. Number four. Oh, I got information about this guy too. Have you heard of Gustavus Franklin Swift Senior?

[Matt Abaticola]

Nope.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. American business executive. He founded a meatpacking empire in the Midwest during the late 19th century, over which he presided until his death. He's credited with the developments of the first practical ice cooled railroad car which allowed his company to ship dressed meats to all parts of the country and abroad, ushering in the era. And you would love this, Dan. The era of cheap beef. So you know the Squish.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, when do we get that back?

[Dan Bernstein]

You know the Swift Company? Swift Meats, Yes. Still active today. You can go online, order meats from them today. He was the founder and he started this company.

[Matt Abaticola]

Dan.

[Dan Bernstein]

Guess how old he was when he started the Swift Meat Company.

[Matt Abaticola]

6:16. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

Here, right here in Chicago, Illinois. So Gustavus Franklin Swift senior, checks in at number four on the top ten packers of all time. Number three, the Hangover Wolf Pack. So the movie the Hangover, the Wolf Pack checks in at number three. Number two is actually right here on my screen as we see it right now. Number two is the video game Pac Man. Pac man checks in at number two. And the number one packer of all time is the Rat Pack. Dan. That of course is Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis, Joey Bishop, Peter Lawford. The top 10 packers of all time. The number one pack of all time, the Rat Pack, with an honorable mention going to the Brat Pack as well. If you remember the Brat Pack, that was Jimmy Estevez, Ali Sheedy, Andrew McCarthy, Rob Lowe, to be more Judd Nelson, Anthony Michael Hall. But the number one packer of all time, the Rat Pack, Frank, Dean, Sammy, Joey and Peter.

[Matt Abaticola]

Let the record show, this is the first time in the history of this bit we've had zero crossovers in our respective lists.

[Dan Bernstein]

Told you. It was a really wide, broad, crazy range to go from.

[Matt Abaticola]

We, we. We went about this very differently.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Matt Abaticola]

There is not one single crossover. All right, let's have it on my list of the top 10 Packers. Honorable mention to the Chicago Packer Newsletter. The Chicago packer ran from 1899 to 1910. A weekly newspaper that catered to the interest of commercial growers, produce handlers and poultry farmers. And it was based out of Chicago, Illinois. There was an addition of the Kansas City Packer, but the Chicago Packer was a very influential version of that that was published right here in Chicago. And big thanks as always to Wikipedia for some of the help on all this stuff. So that's the honorable mention. Number 10 is the Garwood Load Packer.

Garwood Industries in Detroit, Michigan built a truck that had a giant compactor on it, and the Garwood Load Packer was the first real garbage truck. It brought the automation of garbage collection in the United States to a bit of standardization because it was the garbage truck that everybody bought. Introduced in 1938, what you now see as a garbage truck was originally something called the Garwood Lode Packer. So that's number 10.

[Dan Bernstein]

So, garbage truck. That's cool.

[Matt Abaticola]

Yeah. Number nine, cultipacker. What is a cultipacker, you ask? Well, it's a piece.

[Dan Bernstein]

What is a cultipacker?

[Matt Abaticola]

Thank you, Matty. I'm glad you asked. It's a piece of farm equipment. And a cultipacker crushes dirt clods, removes air pockets and presses down small stones, forming a smooth, firm seed bed. And where seed has been broadcast, the roller gently firms the soil around the seeds, ensuring shallow seed placement and good seed to soil contact.

[Dan Bernstein]

You say where the seed has been broadcast?

[Matt Abaticola]

Yes, as in strewn broadcast over a wide area. They cast them broadly and that is what a culty packer does. And a culti Packer is number nine on the list of top 10 packers.

Number eight is website the Packer. It is an extant ongoing newspaper and website that now covers the fresh produce industry. It is read by retail and food service buyers of fresh produce. You want to know what's going on. You get yourself a crisp copy of the Packer and you have it with your morning coffee so you know what's going on in the world of fresh produce. It covers fruit and vegetable production and distribution throughout North America and fresh produce news relating to imported and exported products, information on nutrition legislation and distribution. And this has been ongoing since 1893.

So that is the website. The Packer.

Number seven, American film producer Will Packer.

Who's Will Packer?

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, Dan, who's Will Packer?

[Matt Abaticola]

Will Packer has produced more than 30 feature films. Big screen hit comedies such as Think Like a Man, Ride along, the Wedding Ringer, Girls Trip, Night School, what Men Want. And he produced the 2022 Academy Awards Oscars ceremony. And the reason why he's significant on this list, he in 2024 became a limited partner of the NFL's Atlanta Falcons. He is a Falcons owner. He is Will Packer.

Number six on the list, actor David Packer.

David Packer was born in Passaic, N.J. and his first starring role and the reason why I included him on this list, his first starring role was as the human collaborator in the 1983 NBC miniseries V. And he reprised this role in the 1984 sequel V the Final Battle. Do you know what this character's name was.

[Dan Bernstein]

In V? In the.

[Matt Abaticola]

In the NBC miniseries V, which I believe also starred Robert Englund, who later achieved fame as playing Freddy Krueger.

[Dan Bernstein]

You are correct. He is. He is in that film. Yeah, I just looked up. You can, you can share with the audience as they. They wait with bated breath to find out what was this character's name.

[Matt Abaticola]

David Packer played Daniel Bernstein. Wow.

That sucks that he had to play the human collaborator. David Packer starred as Daniel Bernstein.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, I had Michael Ironside also.

[Matt Abaticola]

Of course it did. Plays the same. He's. What's his name? Jester.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, isn't he.

[Matt Abaticola]

Isn't he Jester in Top Gun? Michael Irons.

[Dan Bernstein]

Is his name Jester?

[Matt Abaticola]

I think so.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay. I think you're right.

[Matt Abaticola]

I think I'm right. Come on, you know all the Top Gun call signs. That's your job.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I know.

[Matt Abaticola]

Sundown and Douchebag or Go down. Go down. Number five. You're waiting for this name. And of course, no list of the top 10 packers of all time would be complete without Billy Packer. Billy Packer, who lived from 1940 to 2023, American college basketball player and sportscaster. And I always thought of him as the inverse of Dick Vital. Dick Vital, who can be sometimes an insufferable broadcaster, but is an absolutely wonderful guy. Billy Packer, I thought he was a terrific broadcaster and just a complete asshole.

So that's sort of where he was. That was the great thing about college basketball broadcasting. At one point you had these polar opposites on however you want to graph it, wherever you want to do the plot chart on these axis of good broadcaster, good guy, bad broadcaster, bad guy. They could not have been at further apart on the spectrum. Billy Packer is number five.

Number four, the NBA's Chicago Packers. And you say what? Well, they still exist. The NBA's Chicago packers are the current Washington Wizards. The Wizards began playing as the Chicago packers in 1961. They were the NBA's first expansion expansion team, an expansion prompted by Abe Saperstein's American Basketball League. And the star, the great Walt Bellamy, as a rookie was the best player on the Chicago packers. He averaged 31 points and 19 rebounds a game and he represented the team at the All Star game. He had 23 points and 17 rebounds in the All Star Game. And he was rookie of the Year for the Chicago packers in 1961. It was a name that was a reference to Chicago's meatpacking industry. They played in the International Amphitheater next door to the Union Stockyards. The name was unpopular since it was the same name used by the Green Bay packers, the bitter rivals of the Bears. After one year they changed their name to the Chicago Zephyrs and they moved their home games to the Chicago Coliseum.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay, I didn't know that the Zephyrs were the packers.

[Matt Abaticola]

The first Zephyrs. Yes, they became the Zephyrs and then the Zephyrs moved to Baltimore and became the Baltimore Bullets, which became the Washington Bullets, which became the Washington Wizards. So that's number four, the Chicago packers, number three. And newsworthy at the moment, the R and B group, American Soul, the Packers. They were formed by tenor sax player Charles Packy Axton, who was the son of Stax Records part owner Estelle Axton.

Axton was a former member of the Mar Keys, as was the recently deceased Steve Cropper. Steve Cropper, the all time great guitarist who just died a couple of days ago, played on the packers first recording and hit Cropper, of course, member of Booker t and the MGs, the Stacks record session band. And I'm sure that that since he was passing, you read everything about Steve Cropper and just how influential he was, how important he was. You may know him as a member of The Blues Brothers, etc. But R&B group, the packers, number three.

Number two. And I spent half an hour yesterday reading the Wikipedia article that is part of his story. Alfred Packer, the Colorado Cannibal. If you have the time, and if you're looking just for something to do for no good reason, just read about Alfred Packer and his story about the Colorado Cannibal. Because if you enjoyed the movie or the book, the Revenant.

You'Re going to find this story fascinating. And just what. By the time you read the full story of the Colorado Cannibal, who was eventually tried and convicted of premeditated murder and sentenced to death. And then he won a retrial and was eventually, eventually sentenced to 40 years in prison on five counts of voluntary manslaughter. And he's one of four people historically convicted for cannibalism in the United States.

The story is not to be believed. And I just. My conclusion is similar to that of Norm MacDonald when he tells the story about another famous criminal. He was a real jerk.

[Dan Bernstein]

Great mustache, though.

[Matt Abaticola]

Alfred Packer. He was. He was a real jerk.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's a good mustache, though, if you.

[Matt Abaticola]

Take a look at the picture and oh yeah, that looks like Lanny McDonald. There's. You want my number one? You really want to know what the number one packer of all time is?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep.

[Matt Abaticola]

The number one packer of all time is an object used for packing, sometimes known as a packer. What is packing? Packing is wearing padding or a phallic object in the front of the pants or underwear to give the appearance of having a penis or a bulge.

The object used for packing, sometimes called a packer, may take the form of only a penis shape, or it may also incorporate a false scrotum and false testicles.

Packers may be used to make male clothing hang and move correctly. If a packer is not used, the shape of the clothing is sometimes visibly empty. And there's more because I know you want more, don't you? And there are pictures here of a soft silicone packer, which is actually kind of adorable. The phrase soft packing refers to packing with a device that cannot be used for sexual penetration. Homemade packers may be very low tech and consist of rolled up socks or condoms filled with liquids or gel or in the case of Spinal Tap basis Derek Smalls. It could be a cucumber covered in aluminum foil that perhaps gets picked up by the wand at tsa.

Or we were watching Sean Hockuly last night. I was wondering where his was because it looked like old daddy Ed would bring something out for the games with him. The materials used in the manufacturing process include gelatin, latex and silicone. There are many commercially available packers which more realistically emulate the size, shape, color and texture of the male genital. The term packer most frequently describes soft models not used for sexual activity. Hard packing refers to a device that may be used for sexual penetration. So this is. This is critical. There is this distinction. A colloquial expression for the usage of these is pack and play. So the number one packer on my list is the artificial packing phallus. The Packer, Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Also Grandma's number one.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well, that's different because those are green. Grandma's got the big bag of green ones that she'll just occasionally start whipping at you throw on the floor because of her crypto scam that she's doing. But I. I particularly enjoyed this one because we had very, very different lists. And we're going to have to do something again for the second meeting of these teams. And we were already exchanging ideas last night that can go in all kinds of different directions.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep. And then next week, we'll have for the Cleveland Browns week, the top 10 Browns of all time. So that'll be an interesting one as well, too. So that. That wraps up the top 10 packers of all time.

[Matt Abaticola]

If that didn't set you up for your weekend, I don't know what does.

[Dan Bernstein]

Again, we do this for you so that you can bring information to your friend's house or when you have company over to watch the game, you can share the list of top 10 packers of all time. Kids, during commercial breaks, come on over. Yeah. Halftime, you want to regale the group with a story of Alfred Packer or grandma's dildos or, you know, packing tape or fanny packs. Whatever you want to do. It's all.

[Matt Abaticola]

There you go. We bring it to you. And that brings us to our DBU picks that are presented by my bookie.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, I'm staying right here with this Bears packers game because I called it last week. I said, take the Bears and the points because they're going to win outright. I'm telling you again this week. And I went big on this one, Dan. I went real big. I'm taking the Bears and the points because the Bears will win outright again at Lambeau Field. Bears plus six and a half is my pick. They won't need them because they're going to win outright at Green Bay. Bears plus six and a half.

[Matt Abaticola]

I have three.

Separate props for tonight's Bulls Pacers game. Okay, this is what I'm. And there. If you want to ride with me on some of this stuff, you can. I have for tonight's Bulls Pacers game. And this has been a struggle for me because I never know who's playing and who's not playing. But presuming these people are all play and they are all at the moment slated to.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, you mean individual players, not the team.

[Matt Abaticola]

Correct.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because you know it's the Bulls and Pacers.

[Matt Abaticola]

I do, I just don't game to game in the NBA you're not sure who's playing. But for my DBU picks load management, I have Nikola Vuchevic, you can call him Vuch. I have him making more than 1.53-point field goals. I think his numbers have been bad lately and I think I am betting on a regression to the mean for Vuch. All I need are two threes out of Vuch. I am also going to give you Pascal Siakam two or more steals and his teammate Jay Huff having two or more blocked shots.

So Siakam two or more steals. Jay Huff two or more blocks. Nicola Vuchevich two or more three point field goals in the game. And those are my DBU picks. Lock in your picks now with my bookie bet on anything, anywhere, anytime.

[Dan Bernstein]

And if you can, if you have another option for you if like I would say whatever the turnover number is for the Bulls, take the over.

[Matt Abaticola]

Well you can get those when guys have have steals and you've got also the kind of rim protection that they have. Yeah, I didn't see a turnover prop number on there, but that is a pretty good bet that I would imagine if there were a turnover prop number that the, that my bookie and their odds makers would have that set pretty high. But that is gonna do it for dbu. It was our, our Friday to get you ready and now if you really do want all the the in depth hardcore football stuff, we've got that for you on forward progress that's coming up. But that is DBU and as always it is brought to you in partnership with my bookie.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hey, do we, I think we have one more, one more my bookie. Love, love to do as well too, don't we?

[Matt Abaticola]

I think you're absolutely right.

[Dan Bernstein]

Let's do that. And then, and then I'll say goodbye for the show.

[Matt Abaticola]

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[Dan Bernstein]

That's another episode of Dan Bernstein Unfiltered. Thanks for listening. Make sure you subscribe to DBU as well as forward progress and organizations win championships. And don't forget, if you haven't heard us talk about it yet, the new 3127 esports app is out and available. You can get it at the Apple Play at the Apple App Store as well as Google Play. It's there for you right now up at Active and I believe there is a contest on there that's ongoing right now, so go check it out. You can send audio messages as well.

[Matt Abaticola]

3D House of App actually just had.

[Dan Bernstein]

Another audio message come through from the guy who said he's going to abuse the audio message opportunity. So he's living up to it. We appreciate that. We'll talk to you soon here on Ford Progress and have a great weekend. Dan Bernstein Unfiltered Unfiltered on 31 2Sports.

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