Matas Buzelis - THE DUNK | Banged up Bulls 6-4 in last 10

Summary

Dan Bernstein Unfiltered: "Matas Buzelis – THE DUNK | Banged up Bulls 6-4 in last 10"

Date: January 6, 2026
Podcast: Dan Bernstein Unfiltered
Hosts: Dan Bernstein & Jason Bernstein (312 Sports)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan and Jason dive into the highs and lows of the current Chicago Bulls season, focusing on the team's recent struggles with injuries, standout individual performances, and in particular, the jaw-dropping dunk by Bulls rookie Matas Buzelis that's already generating buzz as one of the best in franchise history. They analyze the Bulls' performance, depth issues, and compare their current net ratings. There's also plenty of sharp, unfiltered debate on the state of the Eastern Conference, player development, and memorable basketball trivia. The duo keep their signature blend of sarcasm, honesty, and inside references front and center throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Bulls' Current Struggles and Statistical Breakdown

• Standings & Performance:

  • Chicago Bulls are currently 17–19, sitting 9th in the Eastern Conference.
  • Offensive and defensive ratings both 22nd in the league, with a net rating at 23rd.
  • Consistency remains elusive due to injuries and up-and-down performances.

• Bulls' Resilience Amid Injuries:

  • Despite missing key backcourt players (notably Giddey and Collins), the Bulls surprised with strong showings against Orlando Magic and New Orleans Pelicans.
  • Dan: "The game after the injury-riddled Timberwolves... they come out and play one of the best games I've seen them play all year." [01:30]

• Need for Bench Heroics:

  • Mention of Isaac Okoro's standout game (8-10 shooting, peak performance) and the importance of bench contributions like those from Trey Jones and Jalen Smith.
  • Dan: "With all these injuries, you're going to need heroic performances from bench guys." [03:30]
  • Jason: "I think they need it anyway in order to be a non-play-in team, if we're still looking at that. Because the East is weak." [03:49]

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The Matas Buzelis Dunk: Franchise Moment

• Chronology of Recent Games:

  • After a blowout loss to the Timberwolves, the Bulls rebounded with impressive efforts, but the highlight was Matas Buzelis's dunk over Jalen Suggs.

• Dunk Hype:

  • Social media and fans are hyping Buzelis's poster as possibly the best Bulls dunk since Derrick Rose's legendary slam over Goran Dragic.
  • Dan: "There was a post that said, is this the best Bulls dunk since Derrick Rose over Goran Dragic? ... I honestly think it's a more impressive dunk." [05:36]
  • Jason: "Considering the guy on whom he dunked, Jalen Suggs was not Goran Dragic... Jalen Suggs is like mega Caruso." [06:00]
  • Both hosts detail the physicality, aggression, and shock value of the play, including their own in-the-room reactions:
    • Dan: "I am a loud human being." [08:13]
    • Jason: "I fell off the couch right out of the floor." [08:15]

• Breakdown of Buzelis’s Growth:

  • Increasing willingness by Matas to attack and finish, showing new-found physicality and body control ("proprioception"):
    • Dan: "He's very aware of where he is around the rim... It's almost like a quarterback in the pocket where somebody's rushing their blind side and they can just kind of sense the pressure." [09:18]
    • Jason: "He's getting more aggressive in some of these finishes... taking a purposeful second dribble to go to the basket and try to do something." [07:42]

• Caveats:

  • Other players, including Patrick Williams, Giddey, and Kobe White, have been struggling to maintain poise under pressure, often losing the handle.

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Depth Issues, Injuries, and Player Evaluations

• Impact of Injuries:

  • The Bulls have lost multiple starters:
    • Jalen Smith’s concussion after collision with LaMelo Ball (who returned incredibly quickly) [14:04]
    • Ongoing absences: Collins, Giddey, Sangay
  • Jason (on Smith): "He was 4 for 5, 1 of 2 from 3. He had five rebounds, three block shots... before he and Lamelo Ball hit heads." [14:10]

• Vucevic’s Struggles & Veteran Enforcer Role:

  • Dan: "Vuch is struggling. He's really struggling... He's become the Bulls' enforcer. Unwritten rules enforcer." [16:40, 17:03]

• Patrick Williams’s Improvement & Perception:

  • Noted quietly solid play, especially in spot-up three-point shooting and increased defensive intensity—though he remains much-maligned by parts of the fanbase.
  • Dan: "A lot of Bulls fans hate Patrick Williams... he's going to have a long career, whether it's with the Bulls or not." [12:38]

• Trade Deadline Outlook & Organizational Frustration:

  • Frustration with the front office's lack of urgency to make meaningful trades, despite increasing injuries and the need for a shake-up.

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Around the NBA: Eastern Conference & Player Development

• Softness of the East:

  • The hosts agree the East remains wide open and not especially fearsome after the top teams, expressing skepticism of Boston and Philadelphia’s staying power.
  • Dan: "It's so weak that it is possible still that the Bulls do get that six-seed." [04:11]

• LaMelo Ball Praise and Charlotte’s Role Players:

  • Noted Charlotte’s surprising big win against the Thunder and the potential impact if their star remains healthy, as well as the emergence of role players like Concan Nipple and Brenner Cockbrenner. [19:05]
  • Dan: "If LaMelo just played with more effort, oh my God. He'd be amazing." [18:11]

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Article Review: The Ringer’s "Leaps" List

• Review of Michael Pina’s Article:
  • Discussed a Ringer article about players making significant statistical or developmental leaps this season—debating snubs and worthy inclusions.
  • Notable inclusions: Ryan Rollins, Jalen Duren, Michael Porter Jr., Jalen Johnson, Dylan Brooks, Nemias Queta, Deni Avdija, Austin Reaves.
  • Honorable mentions: Josh Giddey, Tyrese Maxey, Jalen Brown, Marvin Bagley, Nikhil Alexander-Walker, Isaiah Stewart, among others. [22:18–28:08]

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Trivia Segment: Basketball Brain Buster

• Pistons All-Time VORP Leaders:

  • Jason quizzed Dan on Detroit Pistons’ all-time leaders by Value Over Replacement Player; Dan nearly rattles off the full list, illustrating deep hoops knowledge.
  • Notable exchange:
    • Jason (admiring): "I'm immensely impressed that you just knocked off eight of the top 10 all time Pistons there." [36:29]

• Triple-Double Leaders Since 2015:

  • Dan’s turn, quizzing Jason on NBA players with 30+ triple doubles since 2015. The segment features lively back-and-forth and deep-cut basketball references. [37:19–42:46]

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Bulls' Next Steps and Fan State

• Outlook on Upcoming Games & Trade Deadline:

  • Bulls face tough schedule ahead (Pistons, Heat, Mavericks, Rockets) with a depleted roster.
  • Hosts express pessimism regarding meaningful moves before the deadline and overall direction.
  • Dan: "As it stands, it's not like they would make any moves anyway." [29:07]

• Fan Emotional Rollercoaster:

  • Dan and Jason joke about their own "meatball" fan tendencies and the multi-generational cycle of Chicago sports suffering.
  • Dan: "You've already been such a basket case about this game... wandering around the house muttering the word ‘Bears’ to yourself and getting nervous." [43:15]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Buzelis Dunk:

  • Dan: "I honestly think it's a more impressive dunk [than D-Rose’s over Dragic]." [05:52]
  • Jason: "Trey Jones in that game... ends up shooting 7 for 7 and has 12 assists and 20 points. Like this is what it takes." [03:30]

• On Bulls' Place in the East:

  • Dan: "They're always ninth." [00:57]
  • Dan: "The east is weak... it's possible still that the Bulls do get that sixth seed. I don’t want to rule that out." [04:11]

• On Injuries and Depth:

  • Jason: "And now you have to rely on Lachlan Ulbricht, who's bad. Who's bad, and Vuch to play defense, who's also bad." [04:55]

• On Bulls Fan Cynicism:

  • Dan: "A lot of Bulls fans hate Patrick Williams. He's going to have a long career, whether it's with the Bulls or not." [12:38]

• On LaMelo Ball:

  • Dan: "If Lamelo just played with more effort, oh my God. He'd be amazing." [18:11]

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Segment Timestamps

• [00:32] – Bulls standings, ratings overview
• [01:15] – Bulls' up-and-down cycle, injury woes
• [03:30] – Importance of bench player heroics
• [05:36] – Buzelis dunk discussion begins
• [07:42] – Buzelis's improved attacking, body control ("proprioception")
• [12:00] – Patrick Williams deep dive
• [14:10] – Jalen Smith/Lamelo Ball collision
• [16:40] – Vucevic struggles, team leadership
• [19:05] – LaMelo Ball and Charlotte's role players
• [22:18–28:08] – The Ringer’s "Leaps" list discussion
• [32:24–36:29] – Pistons VORP trivia
• [37:19–42:46] – Triple-double leaders trivia
• [43:05–end] – Upcoming schedule and Bulls fan angst

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Tone & Style

Conversational, sharp, deeply knowledgeable, and heavy on in-jokes and unvarnished opinions—classic Dan Bernstein. The banter is peppered with sarcasm and real Chicago sports fan energy; the chemistry between Dan and Jason is evident, making this a rewarding listen or read for Bulls loyalists and hoops nerds alike.

Transcript

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[Jason Bernstein]

Organizations win Championships A Chicago Bulls Podcast with Jason and Dan Bernstein on 312 Sports. It's OWC from our 312 Sports Studios. Your Chicago Bulls are 17 and 19 and Jason Bernstein. I'll give you one guess where they stand in the NBA's Eastern Conference.

[Dan Bernstein]

Ninth.

[Jason Bernstein]

They're ninth. Indeed, because they're always ninth. The Bulls have an offensive rating that places them 22nd of 30. Defensive rating that places them 22nd of thirty. Yet interestingly, their net rating places them 23rd.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wow. Michael Jordan. Pretty shout out.

[Jason Bernstein]

Amazing how that happens. And since we last left the Bulls, it seems like we in our little cycle here they went, things got good for a couple of games and then we get them just in time for the WHEE to fall off again with more injuries. It sucks.

[Dan Bernstein]

And what's crazy is that the game after the injury riddled Timberwolves, whatever that, whatever you want to call it, just bad. They come, they come out and play one of the best games I've seen them play all year. Considering that you don't have your starting backcourt. More importantly Giddy because Kobe has not been his best, let's put it that way. I think he's been far from it. Yes, he just looks out of control. So losing Giddy really hurts. And losing Collins really hurts as well.

[Jason Bernstein]

A lot.

[Dan Bernstein]

They come out against Magic, they play a great game and I think we have to talk about modest.

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, you didn't mention the Pelicans game, right? Yeah, after they lose to the t wolves by 35 points and everything looks like. Well, that's just it.

[Dan Bernstein]

I thought they were going to lose again.

[Jason Bernstein]

I did too. And they actually played really well against the Pelicans and they got the game of the year from Isaac Coro. And even though he's still going to be left open every time for him to go 8 of 10 in a game, enjoy that because that's good. That's peak Isaac Okoro for them.

[Dan Bernstein]

I remember last night he Took the first shot for the Bulls against Boston and it was an open 3 from the left wing air ball. And you just put both arms. Went like this. Yes, because you are so supportive.

[Jason Bernstein]

But he's been selling me out for my sarcasm. That's all it was, was sarcasm.

[Dan Bernstein]

I agree.

[Jason Bernstein]

And I don't know what's going on with that rim. Last night. Rim and bean tow.

[Dan Bernstein]

We were having way too much fun.

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, because there was an issue with a tight.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, because as soon as you said, God, that rim is really tight, I looked at you and I go. And I just go, tight rim, tight rim. And you had to finish in Beantown. Yes. Well, my word. Oh my God.

[Jason Bernstein]

And it was, it was for everybody.

[Dan Bernstein]

Trey Jones, for Sam Houser.

[Jason Bernstein]

That is unbelievable. Tre Jones in that game also showed both of. Not last night, but in the Pelicans game when he ends up shooting 7 for 7 and has 12 assists and 20 points. Like this is what it takes. With all these injuries, you're going to need heroic performances from bench guys.

[Dan Bernstein]

I wouldn't even say with all the injuries. I think they need it anyway in order to be a non playing team. If we're still looking at that. Because the east is weak. The east is weak. Detroit's great. New York is playing really well. Cleveland, once they figure it out, they'll be fine. I don't think Boston is that.

[Jason Bernstein]

They're not.

[Dan Bernstein]

They're not that good. With Tatum out, Jalen Brown's been playing great, but they're not that good. I don't think that. Who's another team?

[Jason Bernstein]

I guess Sixers.

[Dan Bernstein]

Sixers. I think they're fine. But Embiid is not even close to what he used to be. And he's just so below the rim now. He's still good, but I don't think he's not the best player on that team anymore. And it's just. It's so weak that it is possible still that the Bulls do get that succeed. I don't want to rule that out. I just don't. However they're going, I think there's a very small chance and they need those performances from their bench guys to, to make that happen. That includes Jalen Smith, who we'll talk about later. Just because that. That collision was awful and losing him sucks. Especially when you're already down Collins and you now have to rely on Lachlan Ulbrich, who's bad. Who's bad and Vuch to play defense, who's also bad.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, well, but Vuch was the guy who Responded after that Charlotte game, too. Yeah. And I thought we just.

[Dan Bernstein]

They're doing it to the. What are teams doing to the Bulls. Is there a reason.

[Jason Bernstein]

Let's talk about the collision first. Because you mentioned it in a loss to Charlotte where.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, we haven't even talked about Mattis dunk yet. Let's go chronologically here.

[Jason Bernstein]

Fair enough.

[Dan Bernstein]

I think. I think we have to just mentioned that that might have been the greatest. People are saying it's the. I know you hate that when I say people are saying. There was a post that said, is this the best Bulls dunk since Derrick Rose over Gordon Dragic?

[Jason Bernstein]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I think. I think it might be, yes. Oh, easily it might. I honestly think it's a more impressive dunk.

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, considering that the guy on whom he dunked, Jalen Suggs was not Gorn Dragic.

[Dan Bernstein]

No disrespect to Gordon Dragic, former all star great player, not known to be a defensive.

[Jason Bernstein]

Jalen Suggs is like mega Caruso.

[Dan Bernstein]

You called it out. You said that. And then I think it wasn't Stacy, it was Adam who said. Who said he plays like Caruso.

[Jason Bernstein]

It was after he got hurt because he. Yeah, I said it. And then later after he got hurt.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because, like he only plays 55 games a year or whatever it is.

[Jason Bernstein]

Because he's playing football.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, he was a football player. You know, he was like a star Minnesota football player before he chose basketball.

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, yeah, you get extra credit throwing that down over that guy. And he knew it, too. Suggs, the response afterward, he's like, oh, God.

[Dan Bernstein]

He kind of gave his eye. But respect to Suggs for jumping.

[Jason Bernstein]

True.

[Dan Bernstein]

Good. Good for him. And the thing is that all, all great defensive players are going to get dunked on. I've seen Jared Allen get dunked on.

[Jason Bernstein]

And I'm sure you're contesting a shot.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, exactly. I've seen so many great players get dunked on. And it's part of the game. It happens.

[Jason Bernstein]

It depends how. We used to joke about Steve Nash because Steve Nash would always be like.

[Dan Bernstein]

Trying fake, drawing a charge, standing with.

[Jason Bernstein]

His shoulders slumped and somebody scrotum on his head. That was just every. Every time. Well, where's Nash? He's getting back on defense. Some guy just dragged his dong over his head because you don't want to be that gu. But I don't mind somebody up there contesting a shot. You can go down in a blaze of glory that way.

[Dan Bernstein]

Half of Mattis head was above the rim, too. I didn't. I didn't know he could. I knew he could jump. I didn't know he could fly.

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, he's getting more aggressive in some of these finishes. After that first dribble. Instead of looking to kick out, instead of waiting to see who's drawn to him, he is now taking a purposeful second dribble to go to the basket and try to do something.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, he. He kind of. He did a little gather. Took one pump dribble and went off. Off of two feet and cocked it back. And I. Mom was scared.

[Jason Bernstein]

I know. You scream so loud.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I am a loud human being.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, I know that. Believe me, I know that. But that was. I went crazy, too. I fell down. I just fell off the couch right out of the floor. You jumped up and did the alarm go off to, like, the glass?

[Dan Bernstein]

No. You're thinking of the DJ Moore touchdown.

[Jason Bernstein]

That set off the alarm.

[Dan Bernstein]

That set off the alarm.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yes. In the house.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes, it did.

[Jason Bernstein]

And it don't stop.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I think multiple times for that one.

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, the modest two, especially with the guys out now who are out. I don't mind him attacking, but, God, he's got to have a tighter handle if they. Everybody's raking at his dribble. Everybody's immediately when he does exactly what I said and he takes that second purposeful dribble. The scouting report is, go get it. Go take it. Go rake it away from him. Because a lot of these guys just can't protect their dribble in traffic. But he does. And I think you pointed this out before, once he's in the air, he does a nice job finding his way to the basket.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, I used one of your favorite words, which is proprioception. He. He's very aware of where he is around the rim, where his body is around the rim. And he's also. His little flinches and moves with his hands and his arms. And even his body is pretty good body control when he's up there. He's very aware of who is around him. It's. It's almost like a quarterback in the pocket where somebody's rushing their blind side and they can just kind of sense the pressure. It's similar where if somebody's coming from behind, he. He can kind of feel that out and avoid it.

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, that's. The great finishers do that, and you add a ton of points over a season by getting the number of. And ones with a little bit of D cell.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right. Or even a goal 10, just to get that extra bit of time to make something happen.

[Jason Bernstein]

If you want an Example of somebody who's terrible at that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Patrick.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. However, I was going to say modest is kind of taken after him with his dribble getting attacked. It feels like every time Patrick drives.

[Jason Bernstein]

Everybody giddy does it too.

[Dan Bernstein]

Kobe as well. Yep. Which. Which sucks because I feel like over the past few years we've been talking about his improve, his improvement with his handle, how he's worked with Chris Paul and how he's really worked on not turning the ball over when he's got the ball in his hands. He's regressed a little bit with that Kobe. Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

Anyway, well, what he's been doing isn't physical. The issues he's been having with turnovers, as far as my estimation is too fast, is he's going into people and leaving the ground for no reason. He's getting into no man's land where the equivalent of the chair pull on.

[Dan Bernstein]

Him, of just he pulls the chair on himself.

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, you just sort of let him keep going until he's too far underneath.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. I do also just want to say I feel like Patrick's been playing pretty well recently.

[Jason Bernstein]

I agree.

[Dan Bernstein]

And he will have his moments. He will have his moments. But he, he's been very, very, very solid off the bench. And what annoyed me the other day was when Stacy was talking about old Patrick took five threes last game.

[Jason Bernstein]

Good.

[Dan Bernstein]

Didn't he make like three of them or two of them or something? Well, it was like five of his seven shots were threes. It's Patrick Williams. That's what I. That's where, that's where I trust him most, is to make a standstill three point shot.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah. That's where he's going to have the most value.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

Right now.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

As far as per value per shot for him.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

He was over 5.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Jason Bernstein]

From 3, was over 7 from the field, and over 5 from 3 point range against Charlotte.

[Dan Bernstein]

Fine. Shoot it more.

[Jason Bernstein]

I agree.

[Dan Bernstein]

And last night I thought he played okay. I thought he was fine. And he's been defending really hard recently is something else I've noticed because when he came, when his entire tenure with the Bulls, it's always been, oh, he's a great defender on the ball, but sometimes he gets his head turned, gets lazy off the ball. He's been. He's been rock solid defensively.

[Jason Bernstein]

And this year he is at 38.7% from 3. He's a career 39%. So he's right at his career number. He's gonna get paid of 39%.

[Dan Bernstein]

He already got paid. People Might people. A lot of Bulls fans hate Patrick Williams. He's going to have a long career, whether it's with the Bulls or not. He's going to be in the league for a long time.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, you'll see him as like the seventh guy on a champion.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like when he, like five years. Harrison Barnes in, in seven years. If he's Harrison Barnes, that's a good career.

[Jason Bernstein]

What about like a Jay Crowder? If he went to like the bigger, stronger.

[Dan Bernstein]

Jay Crowder's short, though.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, but he, he developed a three point shot.

[Dan Bernstein]

Jay Carter's always been able to shoot.

[Jason Bernstein]

But I'm just saying, like somebody like that, though, who, when he shows up on a really good team or somebody trades for.

[Dan Bernstein]

Patrick's never been on a really good team. Right, right. Put him up. Put him on a really good team where he's not asked to handle the ball in traffic and make plays and he's just asked to guard a good player and shoot the ball when it's given to you. If he averages 8 and 8 and 4 on good efficiency off the bench for a good team, he'll be making that $18 million per year for the rest of his career.

[Jason Bernstein]

Speaking of really good players and guys asked to do a lot. These were Jalen Smith's numbers before the collision with Lamelo Ball over the last.

[Dan Bernstein]

How many games this was in?

[Jason Bernstein]

No, no, no. This was in that game.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, in that game.

[Jason Bernstein]

This is through 15 minutes.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

He was 4 for 5, 1 of 2 from 3. He had five rebounds, three block shots.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, he was protecting the rim.

[Jason Bernstein]

He had three block shots in 15 minutes in that game before he and Lamelo Ball hit heads. Ball hit his mouth on the back of Smith's.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. The fact that Lamello Ball came back from that and remarkable.

[Jason Bernstein]

I thought, when I saw.

[Dan Bernstein]

I thought he was going to be out for 20 games.

[Jason Bernstein]

So did I. I saw Ball leaving with a bloodied mouth. I'm like, well, he's done for a week. He came back in the game and Smith was out cold.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it sucks.

[Jason Bernstein]

You knew it when he and. And the broadcasters, it was, it was that weird crew and they weren't saying anything about what was going on. Like, it looked like they got hit that. Like, look at the replay. They hit heads. One guy's knocked out, the other guy's got a lip is cut open. Right. The other guy's going to get his lips sewed up. Either way, you're going for repairs.

[Dan Bernstein]

And what.

[Jason Bernstein]

That's what they would say. He's got a good Andrew Shaw.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hacky. He's a bulldog. Hacky.

[Jason Bernstein]

Pulford just died. The guy whose voice we're doing. Pulley Rip Sky.

[Dan Bernstein]

Motley Cruelty. Can you do me a favor real quick?

[Jason Bernstein]

What?

[Dan Bernstein]

Go on Basketball Reference. Look up. Look up Jalen Smith.

[Jason Bernstein]

Why?

[Dan Bernstein]

And go to his. Look. What are his per 36 averages for this year? For this year.

[Jason Bernstein]

Okay. Jalen Smith this year. Last 5 per game per 36 minutes this year his scoring is actually down. His career scoring is 18 8. He is at 18 4. What else do you want?

[Dan Bernstein]

Rebounds, blocks.

[Jason Bernstein]

Field goal Rebounds are at 12.7, up over a career number of 11. 9. Assists are up 2.6 over 1.9. Blocks are about the same. 1.7 to 1.6. So is your thesis proven disproven or neither?

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, my thesis from last season is that if he's given the minutes, he'll average those that 15 and 10 that I was telling you.

[Jason Bernstein]

It was 15 and 8, I think, right?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, 15 and 8.

[Jason Bernstein]

I think 15 today is what you said. Hey, but he can't get those minutes on a good team because he's not good enough.

[Dan Bernstein]

Then why can't he get him on a bad team with a bad starting center? I would rather have Collins start over Vuch. I would rather have Smith start over Vuch, not Lachlan Ulbricht.

[Jason Bernstein]

Vuch is struggling. He's really struggling. He's defensively. Simple game. Well, yeah, it's simple when you're trying to take a contested two all the time.

[Dan Bernstein]

Simple game.

[Jason Bernstein]

That sucks.

[Dan Bernstein]

A game can be simple and bad.

[Jason Bernstein]

You're correct. It is simple. It's also why you're losing.

[Dan Bernstein]

A simple game that's good is when you get an open three and shoot it.

[Jason Bernstein]

He has become the Bulls enforcer. Unwritten rules enforcer. Where it was Giannis that.

[Dan Bernstein]

But hold on. He's the only guy that can be on that team because he's the only vet who's really, isn't he? Authority. Yeah. He's made two all star teams. He's had a good career. He's the only guy. You can't have Dale and Terry. Dan.

[Jason Bernstein]

Terry.

[Dan Bernstein]

You can't have Dale and Terry go up to Giannis and start a fight. No. Until Bobby Portis comes in, I'm staying away. He's good.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, and he's also.

[Dan Bernstein]

BP is good.

[Jason Bernstein]

Don't. Don't step to him.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, no, you don't. You don't mess with bp.

[Jason Bernstein]

Run up.

[Dan Bernstein]

Get BP for my bum.

[Jason Bernstein]

Run up. Get done up.

[Dan Bernstein]

One of those eyes widen a Little bit. And he's not mirror Titch got popped.

[Jason Bernstein]

A two piece and a biscuit put on him.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, that was the precursor to the Draymond Green Jordan pool thing.

[Jason Bernstein]

So Lamelo dunks at the end of the game.

[Dan Bernstein]

It wasn't like Giannis who did a windmill. It was just somebody got a seal, he picked it up, he kind of just dropped it.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, he slow walked and he kind.

[Dan Bernstein]

Of just half got it. If Lamelo just played with more effort, oh my God.

[Jason Bernstein]

He'd be amazing.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh my God.

[Jason Bernstein]

So Vuch comes up to Lamelo after he did that. He like pokes him with the ball and then he said something at the end and there's a little bit of a pushing scuffle. Scuffle. But no big deal. But it's like, hey, don't do that. You know what?

[Dan Bernstein]

Bulls win, win instead.

[Jason Bernstein]

There's a really good way to prevent that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Play well.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, play. Play better basketball. Play better defense.

[Dan Bernstein]

I just want to say something about Charlotte. They beat Oklahoma City by 27 on the road. They look good, man. If Lamelo is healthy and even he. Well, he is right now. And if he's. Even if he's not trying that much, he's still a very good player. You love Con canipple.

[Jason Bernstein]

Who doesn't?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, he's great.

[Jason Bernstein]

Who doesn't?

[Dan Bernstein]

Concan Nipple is great. Miles Bridges piece of shit, but I love his game. Brandon Miller.

[Jason Bernstein]

Brandon Miller.

[Dan Bernstein]

Brenner Cockbrenner is good. Brandon. Brandon Miller can.

[Jason Bernstein]

Wait. You just mentioned Hulkbrenner in the same sentence.

[Dan Bernstein]

Have you seen him this year as a shop blocker?

[Jason Bernstein]

I know, but he's a rookie. Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

And I like, I really like see on James as an off the bench 3.3 and die wing type player. I mean, I'm a little bit biased, but still he's a good player. That. That team. That seems one of those teams.

[Jason Bernstein]

Is there anything to be said about the Boston game? Other than if you keep letting Sam Houser shoot 26 footers, he's going to keep making them.

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, if you only score 33 points and a half, yeah, that's what's going to happen. There's really great. There's not much to say, but it's really hard to judge that game when Kobe, Giddey, Smith and Collins are all hurt and you have to rely on Lachlan Ulbricht.

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, Kobe played.

[Dan Bernstein]

Off the bench.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, but he's still bad. And now you've got this.

[Dan Bernstein]

He said he's still playing at the same time I Just said still bad.

[Jason Bernstein]

This stretch now at Pistons l, Heat at home, Mavericks at home. At the Rockets.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. Rockets are looking scary too.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, they are.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. When you talk about the Rockets, it's like Thompson, Shangoon, Jabari Smith. Oh, right. Kevin Durant.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like he's 37 or whatever it is, but it's Kevin Durant. Duke could still play. That's one of the greatest scorers of all time, if not the most talented scorer ever. It's like, who Every team. Just. Just every team. Except I know every team can say this. Every bad team can say this. Like every team is guys.

[Jason Bernstein]

Healthy or just.

[Dan Bernstein]

Just every team is guys. And what are we doing?

[Jason Bernstein]

The Bulls don't have those guys though, right?

[Dan Bernstein]

They're in the play in every year. It's the. It's Miami, Atlanta and Chicago. And at least Atlanta is looking to move on from Trae Young because he's a little.

[Jason Bernstein]

But they are apparently. Well, they're well down the road in discussions too. I would not trade for him, apparently.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like, I saw Washington as the only team that could be possibly suitable for him. And I'm thinking, what.

[Jason Bernstein]

Why are you trading for Trey Young?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know.

[Jason Bernstein]

Empty calories? Empty. Yeah, I don't. I don't want him around. I wouldn't trade for him. But every team's got guys who aren't like the Bulls guys.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. And speaking of Bulls, the Hawks have an all NBA player. Jalen Johnson's a MF. MFer.

[Jason Bernstein]

Speaking of which, I wanted to get to this article that I thought that you would find interesting. And it was in the ringer. And it is a mid season report about eight players who Michael Pina believes are taking a leap this season.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right. And you already told me that Gideon Mattis aren't on this.

[Jason Bernstein]

Let me just. I just want to give you some of the names here.

[Dan Bernstein]

Can I guess some of them?

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, let me give you the logic. Just chill. Chill your tatas. This is a look at eight of the most significant leaps we've seen from abrupt star turns. Talents who've benefited from a change of scenery. Okay, Everyone on the list has been in the NBA for at least three full seasons. So relative newcomers who deserve most improved player votes will not appear. So the guys not appearing. Keonte George, Stefan Castle, Reed Shepherd, AJ Mitchell, Colin Gillespie, Cam Spencer, Anthony Black. Anthony Black, Alex Saar, Keyshawn George and Jaime Haquez. They will not appear, he said. Instead, we're looking for players who've noticeably improved beyond the natural arc of a young career. It's more fun that way.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

All right. Can I give you Ryan.

[Dan Bernstein]

I know you already said, or I mentioned that Ryan Rollins has to be on here.

[Jason Bernstein]

Ryan Rollins is the second guy on the list.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, that.

[Jason Bernstein]

He said. He said I've gone hard at Bucs GM John Horst. This is Pena for trying to salvage an unsalvageable situation. The Rollins signing was a grand Islam. He said 12 million over three years total. And as of Saturday, he led the Bucks in total minutes, shots, assists and steals. Was tied in points with Giannis.

[Dan Bernstein]

Pretty good. Pretty good.

[Jason Bernstein]

Not even Milwaukee saw that coming. Jalen Duran.

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah. Yep.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

He said if you try, you don't like him. I. Well, I don't. I don't. I think he's a little dirty, but he's good.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's not like Lou Dort.

[Jason Bernstein]

Lou Dort is a dick. Yeah, he is.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, he kicks his feet out. I know.

[Jason Bernstein]

His knees. Look at what Dort does with his knees when he's a screener. He's. Yeah, like he sticks his knees into your knees to try to tie you up.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, it's. Could Amend Thompson be on here?

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, let's see. You got Ryan Rollings, you get Duran, you then have Michael Porter Jr. Oh.

[Dan Bernstein]

I mean, change of scenery, scoring on a bad team.

[Jason Bernstein]

Let me say he didn't have to take advantage of this opportunity. His efficiency could have crumbled, but no, he genuinely cares as he cuts hard, he passes the ball, calls out teammates on the ground. Wow.

[Dan Bernstein]

He passes the ball.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yep. And this, I think, is maybe stretching it, but he says that Jalen Johnson has gone from a tantalizing athlete to an obvious all star. Oh, yeah, he said, who should not be included in a trade for Giannis Anetokounmpo.

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Jason Bernstein]

A free flowing, cerebral player at his best, rippling through random offense in the open floor.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's your type of writing. Could Anthony Simons be on here?

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, I'll give you the rest. This, and this pains me to say, he's got Dylan Brooks on here.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wow. Yeah, he's been having a good year. Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

He said most role players can't crank their game's volume up to 11 without frying any speakers, but Brooks can.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, he's been good.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yep. He also has Nemius Keita of the Boston Celtics.

[Dan Bernstein]

I knew it in college.

[Jason Bernstein]

I know you did. And this pisses me off too, because you pointed about in Utah State.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. They were like a 10C in the tournament.

[Jason Bernstein]

Like I like this Nemius Kita.

[Dan Bernstein]

I remember he wore 88. And then I knew.

[Jason Bernstein]

I saw. Remember he wore 88?

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know, because he's still wearing in the league. But it's a very easy number to remember because nobody else is wearing it.

[Jason Bernstein]

Isn't it supposed to be. Is that a Nazi number?

[Dan Bernstein]

Is it?

[Jason Bernstein]

I thought because 8 and 8.8h is the eighth letter and it meant like Heil Hitler or something.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't think he's.

[Jason Bernstein]

No, I know I'm not.

[Dan Bernstein]

So then why'd you bring it up?

[Jason Bernstein]

Because what's the point? There was something about 88 that I remembered being bad.

[Dan Bernstein]

No. Yeah. It's because, like you after my last high school game, the other pitcher who dominated you found his Twitter account and it was like his thing said like 1488. And then a bunch of. Bunch of people in your comment section just started coming after this kid and he had to put out like, no, those are like my childhood numbers. Right. I think he wore 88 in the game.

[Jason Bernstein]

Somebody said 14 and 88. Maybe that's how I remember it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. Like what?

[Jason Bernstein]

I don't know.

[Dan Bernstein]

You just said you just threw a lob to that kid to get dunked on.

[Jason Bernstein]

I mean, nice kid. And he was great that game.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, my God. We also couldn't hit.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yes. Denny of dia. He says, duh. He said he was the pick to win most improved of the quarter season mark remains his to lose. He's an all star full stop. Averaging 25.7 points, 7.3 rebounds and 7.1 assists.

[Dan Bernstein]

You didn't know that?

[Jason Bernstein]

Jeez.

[Dan Bernstein]

You didn't know that?

[Jason Bernstein]

But I mean, to look at it right there, that is.

[Dan Bernstein]

That's like. That's like 38 year old LeBron numbers.

[Jason Bernstein]

That's wild.

[Dan Bernstein]

You know, LeBron is still averaging 21, 6 and 5.

[Jason Bernstein]

And he's washed.

[Dan Bernstein]

He's 41.

[Jason Bernstein]

He's washed. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like I saw that the other day. He had. He had like 32 points the other day.

[Jason Bernstein]

And then the last one here, Austin Reaves.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah. He said, I. Not in a million years. No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Carlo Matkovic.

[Jason Bernstein]

Stop. Not in a million years.

[Dan Bernstein]

Did I think never let go of.

[Jason Bernstein]

That narrative that Reeves would ever be good enough to earn a max contract without any caveats. And then he says honorable mentions.

[Dan Bernstein]

Giddey.

[Jason Bernstein]

Josh Giddey. Tyrese Maxey. Too good. Jaylen Brown. Come on. Jamal Murray. Marvin Bagley.

[Dan Bernstein]

Marvin Bagley.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah. Marv Bagley iii.

[Dan Bernstein]

Wow. I haven't heard that name in a while.

[Jason Bernstein]

Nikhil Alexander Walker.

[Dan Bernstein]

Did you see his buzzer beater? The Other day, no half court. Lefty swish. And he held the Follow Through. I forgot. I think KD tweeted about it. He's like, that might be the sickest shot I've ever seen.

[Jason Bernstein]

IO's the other night was pretty good.

[Dan Bernstein]

It wasn't left. It wasn't offhand.

[Jason Bernstein]

Why is he lefty? Because.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because Caruso was guarding his right hand. He just went and it bottoms.

[Jason Bernstein]

That's pretty cool. Dominic Barlow. And then the last name is Isaiah Stewart. Who the Bulls are going to see very soon. Correct. He's on the Pistons. Right. They're big guy. So now that the Bulls are looking at the quick approach to the trade deadline, I wish there was more that we could discuss. I wish the Bulls cared about draft capital. I wish they cared about moving any of these guys for the right reasons. But they've got a lot to sort out and a lot of dudes hurt right now.

[Dan Bernstein]

As it stands, it's not like they would make any moves anyway. Well, no, they wouldn't because they just.

[Jason Bernstein]

Don'T at the moment. Zach Collins remains out. We know Sangay's out for the season. Josh Giddey, they're saying still a few weeks. And Jalen Smith remains in the concussion protocol. Kobe White back, but not. Not healthy, I don't think. Or not himself. He's not getting the same lift on his jumper and he's dribbling into traffic with. No. It's all just rhyme or reason. All right, so you want to get to the showdown.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, because it's too depressing. Not the showdown, but the showdown's not depressing. The showdown.

[Jason Bernstein]

The showdown is life affirming.

[Dan Bernstein]

Affirming. That's an interesting word to say for that.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yes. The showdown makes us understand. What? I can't talk over the music. Why not? Dave, Tell me when I can talk.

[Dan Bernstein]

Maddie, I know you appreciated that. Can I talk.

[Jason Bernstein]

Now?

[Dan Bernstein]

Keep playing the music just so we can't talk. All right, Fine.

[Jason Bernstein]

All right. So with the Pistons now taking over the number one spot in the East. They're the best team in the east and they've earned it. Oh, they've had their shares of injuries, too.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, because they have the best player in the league on their team. What the hell are you talking about?

[Jason Bernstein]

Javante Green. Yeah, he had a great game, too.

[Dan Bernstein]

Best player in the league.

[Jason Bernstein]

Stop. No.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes. He's also wearing my old hockey number.

[Jason Bernstein]

Well, that's on purpose.

[Dan Bernstein]

Hockey. Hockey. Weird hockey sweater number.

[Jason Bernstein]

I think he said that when he took the number. He said that he needed to be like the unstoppable wall of a goaltender for somebody who's only three feet tall.

[Dan Bernstein]

What's that?

[Jason Bernstein]

Where'd that come from? Is Maddie into his toys all of a sudden?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

Oh, no. All right, so I picked a. An arbitrary benchmark here to use as we look at the Pistons and you know, who they've got on their team, their current roster and all that. And I was thinking like, if they get good, if this team really, like.

[Dan Bernstein]

If they get good, like playoff good. What? They're number one in the conference. They can win the title this year.

[Jason Bernstein]

The bulls were number one in the conference in 2020. It's a little different.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm just saying, when you have Cade Cunningham, Jalen Duran, Jaden I like. Come on, man.

[Jason Bernstein]

I understand that.

[Dan Bernstein]

But of course, Javante Green.

[Jason Bernstein]

If they prove it in the playoffs.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh my God. Like they were like the. Okay. Bulls get the bulls get the 8 seed in the play in. Bulls get the 8 seed in the plan. They play Detroit. You don't think the Pistons could win in the playoffs?

[Jason Bernstein]

Oh my God, chill out.

[Dan Bernstein]

Then they play the magic next. You don't think. You don't think the Pistons will beat them?

[Jason Bernstein]

All right. If over time.

[Dan Bernstein]

Cade, what the hell, man? All right.

[Jason Bernstein]

Seriously is biting my dick off the moment.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'd rather not.

[Jason Bernstein]

These are the top 10. I want you to figure out all time in the history of the Detroit Pistons. Yeah. Going back to the Fort Wayne Zollner Pistons in Allen County. War Memorial Coliseum in Fort Wayne, Indiana. This is their all time top 10 based on value over replacement player.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Jason Bernstein]

Okay. So don't worry about the actual number. It's just an arbitrary. But I think.

[Dan Bernstein]

Is there a minimum number of games played type thing?

[Jason Bernstein]

Don't worry about it. Okay. No, that's not a counter.

[Dan Bernstein]

Isaiah Thomas.

[Jason Bernstein]

Isaiah Thomas is number one.

[Dan Bernstein]

Joe Dumars.

[Jason Bernstein]

Joe Dumars is number seven.

[Dan Bernstein]

Rip Hamilton.

[Jason Bernstein]

Good guess, but no.

[Dan Bernstein]

Tayshawn Prince.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yes. Tayshawn Prince is eighth.

[Dan Bernstein]

Ben Wallace.

[Jason Bernstein]

Ben Wallace is sixth.

[Dan Bernstein]

I guess I just have to say chauncey billups then.

[Jason Bernstein]

4. Rasheed Wallace, 10.

[Dan Bernstein]

Drummond 9. Yes.

[Jason Bernstein]

You hate this guy. This is just annoying.

[Dan Bernstein]

Limbeer 5. Rodman.

[Jason Bernstein]

Nope. You only have two and three left.

[Dan Bernstein]

Are they like really old dudes?

[Jason Bernstein]

No, I mean, one is.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't know if I'm thinking of the right guy, but. Dave DeBusher. Is he on?

[Jason Bernstein]

No, you're. I know who you're thinking of. Dave to Bush was a Nick.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

You might be thinking of Dave Bing. Yeah. Yeah. No, Dave Bing is. I think he's in the next grouping. Okay. I can't believe you just rattled off eight of the 10 and now you've got two and three. Both hall of Famers.

[Dan Bernstein]

Both. Oh, hall of Famers. Hall of Famers. Like.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, yeah. So they're top. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Six of their top seven are hall of Famers. Lambert is not. Which is really interesting because he was a really good player.

[Dan Bernstein]

Title winners.

[Jason Bernstein]

Title winners. Not. No, no.

[Dan Bernstein]

Who am I.

[Jason Bernstein]

Although this guy might have. I just would have to see what year he.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm just trying to think of, like, the best Pistons. Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

Well. Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Best pistons.

[Jason Bernstein]

This guy. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7. Time All Star with the Pistons.

[Dan Bernstein]

Played before I was born.

[Jason Bernstein]

He played before you ran. Yeah. Neither one has won a title.

[Dan Bernstein]

Should I know it?

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

White guy.

[Jason Bernstein]

No, no, no. Neither one.

[Dan Bernstein]

Neither one is a white guy.

[Jason Bernstein]

One is about my age, a little younger. One's a little young, and one is he.

[Dan Bernstein]

So if he's your age. So that's like 90s.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Dan Bernstein]

Like on. Like on those teams of Dumars and stuff? No, after. I'm trying to think of, like, draft picks for them. Very high.

[Jason Bernstein]

Very high draft pick. And actually both were. One of them was. One of them was first picked first overall.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, by the Pistons.

[Jason Bernstein]

By the Pistons. In 1970.

[Dan Bernstein]

It's a long time ago.

[Jason Bernstein]

And he was inducted into the hall of fame in 1992. Average in 959 games. Average 20 and 10.

[Dan Bernstein]

A big man.

[Jason Bernstein]

Very big. And known. How shall I say? Known for a long time. Before Shaquille o' Neal and Will Perdue, this man had the largest body part, famously. It's not the one you're thinking of. He was known for enormous shoes.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm going to be pissed.

[Jason Bernstein]

You are.

[Dan Bernstein]

Go ahead.

[Jason Bernstein]

Bob Lanier.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Bernstein]

So Bob Lanier is number three.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. That's bad. Should have gotten that.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, but. No, but you're redeemed.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah. I feel like I did pretty well.

[Jason Bernstein]

I'm immensely impressed that you just knocked off eight of the top 10 all time Pistons there. Yeah. This guy was the third overall pick in 1994 by the Pistons. And he played in 1026 career games, averaging 16.7 points, six rebounds and four assists. Also shot 31% from three. Did you just give it to him? No, I didn't. You did. I don't know anything about basketball. Yeah. Matty's looking at the clock.

[Dan Bernstein]

Go ahead. I should have.

[Jason Bernstein]

I. This is my guess. I have no idea.

[Dan Bernstein]

This is your buddy, Grant Hill.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, it's Grant Hill. There you go. Well done. All right, your turn.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, good job. Mine's also kind of not really an all time thing. A bit more recent because your memories fading.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah. But honestly, I do a better job with the older stuff perhaps than I do with the. With the newer stuff.

[Dan Bernstein]

All right, let me just count, because there are. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. 6, 7, 9. 10 players since 2015, I think since 2015 that have at least 30 triple doubles.

[Jason Bernstein]

30 triple doubles since 2015?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, 10 of them.

[Jason Bernstein]

Is there a reason why you thought of this?

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Jason Bernstein]

All right, Westbrook.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep. Number one, obviously. 202.

[Jason Bernstein]

Sabonis.

[Dan Bernstein]

Sabonis has 68. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. He's sixth.

[Jason Bernstein]

Okay, so I got one and six. Harden.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep. Harden has 80. What was that?

[Jason Bernstein]

What was that? Where that came from? All right, so I got Harden, LeBron, number three.

[Dan Bernstein]

98. Jokic, number two. 164.

[Jason Bernstein]

All right, so Westbrook, Sabonis, you got.

[Dan Bernstein]

1, 2, 3, 5, 6 right now.

[Jason Bernstein]

1, 2, 3, 5. Because there's going to be some weird ones on here.

[Dan Bernstein]

There are a couple of weird ones. Few weird ones, but there's still a couple of.

[Jason Bernstein]

Couple of big names.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

How about Giannis?

[Dan Bernstein]

Yep. 56, so that's seventh.

[Jason Bernstein]

Okay, so 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. So I need four more.

[Dan Bernstein]

And you're missing 3, 8, 9, and 10.

[Jason Bernstein]

3, 8, 9, 10. And this is 30.

[Dan Bernstein]

30 or more.

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah. And so Giddy's not there yet.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, but he.

[Jason Bernstein]

Giddy will be on these lists.

[Dan Bernstein]

There's no question. This was released, like, before the season.

[Jason Bernstein]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

List.

[Jason Bernstein]

Did Chris Paul do it?

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Jason Bernstein]

With something.

[Dan Bernstein]

Nope. There's one big name that you should get.

[Jason Bernstein]

Okay. So I would think Chris Paul would run into a couple.

[Dan Bernstein]

No. Although some people could say this is a very niche reference. I don't think you know it, but some people could say that Chris Paul actually did do it. Don't you? Some people will get it, especially when they. When they hear the name. You won't, but.

[Jason Bernstein]

All right, now I'm confused.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't even. Don't even. Don't even think about it.

[Jason Bernstein]

I'm going to delete that.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, you delete that from memory. But the people will know. Some people will know what I mean by that.

[Jason Bernstein]

What about Bama, the bio?

[Dan Bernstein]

Nope. You should get. You should focus on the guy who's third with 80, with 82 and probably more since the season started. Definitely.

[Jason Bernstein]

Oh, that's a lot. Has Durant. No, he hasn't.

[Dan Bernstein]

No.

[Jason Bernstein]

He's too busy scoring. What about Jason Tatum?

[Dan Bernstein]

No, better.

[Jason Bernstein]

Better than Jason Tatum, I think. And still better.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

Luca.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

Okay, 82.

[Dan Bernstein]

Come on, Luca. Yes. You should have gotten that. That would have been one of the first names.

[Jason Bernstein]

Okay, so I need. I need 8, 9, and 10.

[Dan Bernstein]

This is where it gets a little dicey.

[Jason Bernstein]

This is going to be hard because there's going to be some. Some weird name like Siakam. No, I'm trying to think of guys who can do enough of.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because it's only 10. 10 and 10. It's not like they have to score 30. Right.

[Jason Bernstein]

Like, what did Scotty Barnes do the other night of that? Ridiculous.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'll say this. These three guys are not known as.

[Jason Bernstein]

Scores, not known as scorers, like, at all. Okay? So it's probably somebody who got 10 points, 10 blocks and 10 rebounds.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, not necessarily blocks. Like assists and rebound points, assist rebounds, but. And every once in a while, they could, you know, drop 18, but more so. More so.

[Jason Bernstein]

I'm gonna be. Yeah, this is.

[Dan Bernstein]

I'm probably gonna be all notoriously bad shooters.

[Jason Bernstein]

Clint Capella.

[Dan Bernstein]

No, Notoriously bad one recently has been one person shooting. Has declined over time, but the other two guys have just always been terrible at shooting.

[Jason Bernstein]

Wow. I'm trying to.

[Dan Bernstein]

Terrible.

[Jason Bernstein]

I'm trying to think of guys who are still considered, like, who are in the league but considered bad since 2015.

[Dan Bernstein]

Remember that?

[Jason Bernstein]

Yeah, there's no.

[Dan Bernstein]

Since 2015. Right now. Chris Dudley is only one of these guys is currently on a team.

[Jason Bernstein]

Oh, I'm not going to be able to get it.

[Dan Bernstein]

You should.

[Jason Bernstein]

No, I'm not going to.

[Dan Bernstein]

Go ahead. Ben Simmons. Ah, 33. Draymond Green with 33.

[Jason Bernstein]

He's not a bad shooter.

[Dan Bernstein]

Oh, yeah, he is. Oh, yeah.

[Jason Bernstein]

Okay.

[Dan Bernstein]

And Raja. People did, like, in Rajan Rondo.

[Jason Bernstein]

Good one.

[Dan Bernstein]

And so the thing is that one time, the reference is that there's a video that went viral a while ago. This guy is in some shoe store, and he sees Rajan Rondo, and he goes up to him, he's like, oh, man, it's Chris Paul. It's Chris Paul. And Rondo looks at him like, what the hell are you talking about? So that's when I made the Chris Paul recipe.

[Jason Bernstein]

Okay, thank you. Yeah, that'll do it. That was. That was a good one.

[Dan Bernstein]

That was actually a really good trivia session.

[Jason Bernstein]

It was. I hope next time we convene, when you'll be back in school, that we'll have some sense further of where this Bulls team might be headed as we get closer to the trade line.

[Dan Bernstein]

The only thing is that on Tuesday, we might be very upset about the results of Saturday night's game.

[Jason Bernstein]

I'll be over it. You won't be over it by now.

[Dan Bernstein]

If they lose. Hell, no.

[Jason Bernstein]

You're going to be moping.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yes.

[Jason Bernstein]

You've already been such a basket case about this game. Yes. Literally wandering around the house muttering the word bears to yourself and getting nervous.

[Dan Bernstein]

Because I'm nervous.

[Jason Bernstein]

Because you're a meatball.

[Dan Bernstein]

I can be a meatball if I want to.

[Jason Bernstein]

You can.

[Dan Bernstein]

You've had a Bear super bowl in your life. I have not.

[Jason Bernstein]

I've had two Bear Super Bowls in my life. One. They won. Yes.

[Dan Bernstein]

How do you deal with. I know I live with them, but how do you deal with this? Maddie. What?

[Jason Bernstein]

I had two Bear Super Bowls in my life. I got one just like that. Actually, I do.

[Dan Bernstein]

Bear Super Bowls.

[Jason Bernstein]

Shut up.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah, that'll do it.

[Jason Bernstein]

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