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Dan Bernstein
sports it's Dan Bernstein unfiltered on 312 sports and it's brought to you in partnership with my bookie. Sometimes we make spring training and getting excited about baseball way too difficult and just way too detailed and too much too soon. And that's why I think that the editors of Chicago Magazine did a great job with the March issue and the COVID that just came out and it's it's Pete Crow Armstrong on the COVID I love the fact that at least one outlet in Chicago sat in a room and said, what's, what's a big story when nothing else is going on. And so, hey, Cubs are coming back. They were in the playoffs last year and. Okay, great. Let's. Let's talk about the Cubs a little bit. We. Well, they got this guy Pete Crowe Armstrong, who's awesome and everybody loves him. Really? Yeah. Tell us more. Well, he's young, he's really good at baseball. He's telegenic, he's smart, but he kind of acts like a kid and he's enjoying himself, but he's also really well raised and he's not running around doing stupid stuff. Well, why don't we put him on the COVID then and just do a whole essay about how awesome he is? Okay. That's all you need for spring training. What else do you need, really? If you're a Cub fan right now, do you really want to know at like, when you wake up today, do you want to see Jameson Ty own's pitch grip on his kick change? Is it the first thing? And you know, and maybe you want to go. You're going to fan graphs or something and you're looking at that, you're like, oh, wait a second, we've got a. We've got a new heat zone that might change because they put up a sign that changed a wind current in a park. That's a. There's, there's a time and a place for that. Nothing against that. I'm, I'm that dork, too, but sometimes it's just keeping it simple. And when you put that picture on the COVID of. Of Chicago magazine, it's Pete Crow Armstrong, no helmet, no hat, just his big mop of curly red hair and he's got a bat slung over his shoulders and he's sticking his tongue out. That's the COVID of the magazine and that's kind of the story. It really is. It's just not that hard. Now that's how you get excited about Cubs baseball, if you're really paying attention to stuff. And the story's wonderful in part because it's written by just a great writer. I mean, you, you've probably read Wayne Drees work at ESPN going back decades now, and I think he's. He's been a. A journalism professor as well. University might be University of Iowa. I think I should probably have looked that up. But he's. He did a wonderful job just kind of spending time with pca describing in fine detail the way he carries himself and boy, these. The quotes in this piece, they're obviously the pull quotes are what's making news. But I think you've got to Read the whole thing to get kind of a sense of how self aware he is. He might be more self aware off the field even than he is on the field PCA right now. But what I love about it is there's nothing better. I always say there's nothing better. As a fan of a professional sports, when you know your team is getting good and the Cubs, we can debate where they are in there in this particular window and what their proximity is to a World Series, etc. But when you have a young star who is playing as expressively as he does, almost in some ways a more refined version of Javier Baez, at least at the plate. But he gives you a lot of the same stuff with his. The intensity with which he plays, the joy with which he plays, the. The fact that he lives all out there in a game. He does not hide his emotions. And some guys can play like that and some can't. We've heard Ian Hap talk about it. He always says he wishes he could play like that, but he couldn't ride the highs and lows. And it's something that it sounds like PCA is learning how to deal with a little bit, that if you're going to have the high highs, it means you're, you're, you've got to go through the low lows as well. And the best players over time find that kind of equanimity. They find that, that stasis that allows them to deal with the six months of, of good and bad and the dark, the before the dawn and all the stuff that you go through in an entire baseball season. But there's, there's so many little fun details in this and there's just so many great quotes from him and the fact that he and I always say, and his people, but obviously I don't know what kind of editorial control he had, but the fact that he agreed to some of these more artistic photos that he's done, I think it speaks well of him and his level of confidence. Say, yeah, sure, let's do this. And he obviously allowed a great deal of access and a great deal of observation and certainly time. My takeaways from this are several. One being that he knows how difficult this game is already and that's hard to do at a young age and, and also be great and also have every projection metric having you as a, you know, a four and a half win player this year at his age he entered last year, according to this is the 18th youngest player in Major League Baseball. So there's maturing to do, experiences to endure, perspective to gain. And he struggled to give himself that leeway. He says what's undeniable is that baseball is too hard to go out there every day and succeed. That's, for some reason, the one thing I can't yet rewire in myself. It's harder than any mechanical change or anything that I've had to fix. But I think just the fact that he knows that, that he's aware of it, is a really big deal. And he is seemingly in control of some of these environments where he knows, I've got to get better at this. I have to relax about this. I've got to be. I've got to work harder here. And there is some. There are some insights that emerge over the course of a wonderfully written piece here. And there's a lot of description of his relationship with kids at some of these events that he goes to and the clinics that he does, and just how much he enjoys being around the game and being around there with young kids. A lot about how he was raised, when he went to Harvard, Westlake High School, his parents being pretty cool, being Hollywood actors and exposing him to a lot artistically. And they don't seem like they've really pushed him. You don't hear anything, really, from the parents at all. It's all they're letting him do. The speaking for him is great. And he talks about how he knows that he can present a certain well, here. Let's hear his words. I'm sure I come off like a douche sometimes. That's how I present my fun to people, I guess. I'm not loud anywhere else. I'm not riled up anywhere else. That's where I get to do that stuff. So, hell, yeah, I rub people the wrong way. That's what I did in AAA that day, that week, just playing well and beating their ass. He knows his exuberance can irritate opponents. And it's. He mentions the contract situation, too. And you have to go there. You have to talk to him about this stuff. But he does say, I would like to win a World Series. I want a ring. And he mentions how much fun he has playing here. He said being in the playoffs at Wrigley Field, he said, he called it the sickest shit I've ever been a part of. Different from any other baseball game I've ever played in my life. Like having a 10th player out there just talking about the crowd. And he said, I saw what bringing playoff baseball back to the city meant. That's an easy, immovable goal. The fuck are you playing for if you're not trying to play in the playoffs and win the World Series, man? Take that and absolutely change playing to owning. Change that as we head in to a likely work stoppage. My man pca. Take that quote. The fuck are you playing for if you're not trying to play in the playoffs and win the World Series? Change playing to owning. Slap that down on the bargaining table. The fuck you owning for if you're not trying to own in the playoffs and win the World Series? He says there's more to life than baseball, but maybe not for me right now. This shit is my life. If that doesn't get you ready to go, I mean, come on, come on. Talking about the deal, he says, I've made it clear I want to be here for as long as they want me. I want what's best for the team. I'm cool with being under team control and being here. League minimum ain't too fucking bad. I'm not laughing at him. I just think he's adorable. He's set to make around 820,000 in 2026, so it's remarkably low for a budding superstar. None of it's top of mind. He says, quote, I play the game because I like beating other people. The money will be life changing regardless. I'd like to get a fair deal so I don't fuck the market up. I want to look out for the other center fielders who have to go through the same process, which is why I'm glad the Cubs and my agents are figuring out how to do this. So a couple things that are in there, it's good they're talking, it's good that there is something that they're figuring out. But for somebody as young as he is to say that so that he doesn't want to mess up the market, I want to look out for the other center fielders who have to go through the same process. So he wants to make sure that he's compensated well enough that that rising tide lifts all ships. That is unique for someone his age. It also bodes really well for the upcoming labor negotiations. If it's an indication about that understanding on the part of one of the games most telegenic, marketable, exciting young stars. I think that's a really good sign because usually people like that. He's like, I don't know, man. I don't know. And they're, they're living their life and running around and he is, he is enjoying himself too he certainly is.
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And I think this, it's smart having this feature coming on the. On the heels of him being out with Caleb Williams after the Bears playoffs and then the stars all get together. And that, that kind of insight is very rare for his age, and to have that kind of forethought is very rare for his age, but it, it really speaks to the character that he has, and I think the way that he was raised and brought up into really appreciate what he's doing as a. As an athlete, as a professional athlete playing a game. But it also talks to the fact that, first of all, I didn't realize he was the 18th youngest player in Major League Baseball. I knew he obviously was young, but I didn't realize he was in the bottom 20 of ages. But really remarkable to have that kind of mindset and to move forward into where the labor negotiations might go, where baseball might go, to have a young superstar have that perspective and thought is really, it's refreshing to hear and hopefully something that can permeate through these conversations with veterans and with owners. Not that I think it will, but, you know, hopefully that kind of mentality can permeate into other places.
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Dan Bernstein
Of course it can. He's a leader, whether he thinks he is or not. And his. His youthful exuberance, he knows he's that way.
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He.
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Dan Bernstein
He knows he comes off that way. And he said it. But what was interesting was when asked about the advice that Craig Counsel gives him, he pointed out that Counsel wants him to understand and accept that things won't always go your way and when they don't, learn from it and move on. You know what that's called in my world, we call that parenting. If you're getting that advice from Craig Counsel and having children who are right around the same age as Pete Crow Armstrong, that is one of the most important things you can teach your children. Understand and accept that things won't always go your way and when they don't, learn from it and move on. And then he says, I'm just lacking
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Yeah, that's. That's, you know, that's the hardest thing. And you, you know, you having Jason go through baseball and being involved in, in youth baseball as well, and me with my kids and, and my stepsons, that's baseball. And, and they say, you know, hey, when, you know things aren't going to go your way. Well, yeah, things aren't going to go your way more than they actually do. That's the fucking game. That's why it's so hard and like that teaching that mental resilience in kids is the most important thing that's more important than your swing, your, you know, picking up a ground ball, your throwing technique, your pitching technique. That mental stuff of the game is so important, so valuable.
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Dan Bernstein
That's the game to do it too. Yes, that, that is the game to teach it. Because you're not in charge of that next defensive chance. You're not in charge of, you, you can't, you can't strike out. And like I want to bat again right now. No, no, when, when the, when the lineup rolls through, you'll get your chance to bat again.
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You get, if it does, if it
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Dan Bernstein
does for those, a game and maybe you're going to come out of the game at this point and if you are a pitcher and you are put in with a couple guys on base to get an out, just get that out. Don't worry about it.
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And if you don't, what's even, even harder? Dan too, like in some of the earlier youth ages, you're playing a six inning game, you might get two at bats a game. Yep. And we've, we've had games where we, we didn't get any hits, you know, barely any hits. And then you might, if you're in the bottom of the order, you might get, you might get one, one at bat because you're batting all 12 kids at, you know, nine, you 10, you 11, you, you're batting 12 kids, you might get one at bat a game. Yep.
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Dan Bernstein
And you can do with it what you can. And maybe that at bat calls for you to do something other than try to drive it into the gap. Right.
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But at nine years old, the whole idea is to hit the ball over the fence every, every single time.
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Dan Bernstein
Well, that's, that's major league baseball too, believe me. Yeah, but, but, but sometimes there you, you may have runners at second and third and nobody out and your coach wants you to inside out your swing and, and just try to punch something over the second baseman's head.
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Or in our case at, you know, younger ages, it's just like, hey, get the bat on the ball.
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Dan Bernstein
See what happens. That's good. And usually, you know what ball. I believe the batting average of balls in play at the 8 or 9U level is something like 500.
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Oh, it's probably higher than that.
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Dan Bernstein
Probably the major league level, it's 300. People don't realize that the BABIP is still. It still normalizes at 300. So I, I remember talking to a, to a high school coach and I was grumbling about something and he came over to me and he was just like, you know what, Bernstein? This isn't the major league. Stop trying to apply major league logic to high school baseball. Because I think it was a bunch. I think somebody bunted. And I audibly, like I was sitting there with the parents, I went, oh, like, what are we bunting? And the coach, he goes, the numbers here. Because you like your numbers. The numbers here support the fact that there's a much better chance that the pitcher is going to fall down fielding the ball or throw it away or
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throw it over the first baseman's head. Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
And he also said, look at the field that we play on. Look at this field that we had,
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a pristine, level, even field.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. He said the kids were these same kids. Your kid was raking this field 20 minutes ago.
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Dan Bernstein
And you think that we can't benefit from a ball in play? Come on.
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Right. There's a good chance it hits a stone and Exactly. Bounces.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. Broken bottle. I mean, there's, there's all kinds. Completely cigarette butt. I'm just saying we play. It's inner city baseball. You're playing on inner city fields. That's why you loved it when you went to these really proud schools that took fabulous care of their places. I love that you go to, you know, Simeon and Brooks and you know, Clemente's field is always really nice. It always was you. You knew when a program really cared about what they were doing, when they took great care of their field.
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Like, oh, yeah, we were lucky in our youth programs to have the Libertyville facilities that we do because we have a full time groundskeeper and they're awesome. Yeah, they're great. And then like, we'd go into the city and play Wells park and it's like there's holes in the middle of the field and hey, what? Sorry, does that bother you?
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Dan Bernstein
Wells park does a really good job. And actually, when they put the drainage tile and I you. There will be no Wells park slander on this show. When they did the drainage tiles, that was your guy, Roger Bossard. That was the Sodfather oh, did he really? I didn't know some of that stuff. Yeah, yeah. It was when they finally, finally.
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What's. Am I making this up? Oriole Park. Is that another one in the city?
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Dan Bernstein
Oriole Park? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There is an Oriole by Northwest side.
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Yeah, Maybe that was that. Maybe that one, though, that was really, really bad.
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Dan Bernstein
Maybe. No, Wells park, they take really good care of it and they spend a lot of money to take care of it. So I will. I will brook no.
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Fine.
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Dan Bernstein
So this is PCA saying he hopes one day he will look back on his early twenties exuberance and chuckle. Once he's a veteran, he wants to be respected for his leadership the way teammates like Nico Horner, Ian Happ, and Dansby Swanson are. And he says, I want people to be proud of the person. I want people to be able to talk about me in the same light as those guys. When all is said and done and I'm older and wiser and whatever, That's the best. When I'm older and wiser and whatever, you know, all that stuff, you know, being older or smarter, and I would like that to be the focus on me as a person instead of he's finally hitting for power or whatever. It's just great. I hope the best for pca, and it was just nice to have. That's. That's the perfect Cubs spring training thing right around this time of year. You just put him on the COVID with a silly face, and then you open it up and then there's big, bright, glossy pictures of him making silly faces and saying fun things. He is a really easy guy to root for. There is he. He sort of. He reminds me in a lot of ways of a much smarter Patrick Kane. There's that, the. This, the style, the swagger, the. The enjoying being who he is without being gross, without, like the. With all, like the hockey and just some of the behaviors on that because he. He actually lived with his family instead of having to go into the hinterlands and live with other people and be raised by the game and that kind of thing. So I just thought it was. It's like if, in fact, you sort of idealized a young Patrick Kane and took out all the gross and made him smarter, you'd end up with Pete Crowe, Armstrong. Yeah. But certainly hope he has a good career.
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Certainly is a very nice piece. And, and like you said, a great way to kind of get into spring baseball because it's just, man, it's. It's rough at times to. To Consume and to be a part of. And
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Dan Bernstein
spring training baseball is. And everybody gets so excited to turn on the game. There is. There are very few things. What would you compare it to? It's like spring training baseball. It's. It's. It's a food experience. It would be like grabbing a bag of candy that you thought you really liked, and then you get a couple of handfuls in and you're like, yeah, I don't know.
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It's that. I'll be honest with you. Last Friday, that first Cub socks game, I actually put on our family calendar. I put it on there that the game was on. Okay.
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Dan Bernstein
So we, like, wrote it on there.
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Yes. Put it in the family calendar.
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Dan Bernstein
Wow.
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Yeah. Because, you know, we're excited. And Natalie, she. I mean, baseball is her favorite sport, so she's like. She's crazy about the color subs. And so I want to make sure that we didn't forget the game was on. And then I, you know, be honest with you. Inning and a half in. I was. I'm like, okay, I'm good. Yeah. Because I think for me, it's more of a weather change. I'm more excited about. All right. Spring baseball. Spring training's here. The weather's going to get really nice. We're going to be able to go outside more. We're going to be able to golf and do things and be able to go to a game and fish for you. So I think that's more excitement of it. It's not the actual event of spring baseball. It's.
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Dan Bernstein
I got you.
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The weather's right there.
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Dan Bernstein
But this was nicely handled by Chicago, man. Yeah, it's just right. And Wayne is just such an attentive, sensitive writer, too, that he was able to capture a lot of this kind of boyish innocence while also allowing PCA to speak for himself and present himself as. I was like, yeah, I'm a goof, but I know I am.
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Yeah. And I think.
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Dan Bernstein
And let me be. Cause if I. I'm playing baseball, you
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know, playing a game, he's.
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Dan Bernstein
He's got the.
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The right perspective for it. And when you. When you look at the team overall, as far as the personality is concerned, I mean, you have. You have Pete Crow, Armstrong, you have Ian Happ, who's got things to say and is a personality, but as serious
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Dan Bernstein
as a heart attack. He. He is.
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But at least he still has things to say. I mean, who else has things to say on the team? Oh, no, he.
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Dan Bernstein
Yes. And that's why he's the union rep too.
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Right.
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Dan Bernstein
But, but, but, but, you know, Ian is just, you know, you can count on one hand the number of times you've seen him actually smile.
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Right.
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But, you know, he has his podcast that's, that's really entertaining. And again, a lot to say, but personality wise, you just don't have a lot of big personalities on the Cubs. And, you know, pca of course, leads the way, but yet he sees himself in the right perspective, which is great.
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Dan Bernstein
I think so, too. I think, I think it is. It is.
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And you said you were going to mention stuff about Caleb Williams and. Oh, he was out to, you know, dinner with Bezelas and, and who else? Who was the fourth in that group?
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Dan Bernstein
It was Caleb and it was Boozelis.
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Let me, let me try to find and. Oh, Bedard. Kind of Bedard.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. He has built this here. So he's built relationships with two of the city's other young stars, Bulls forward Modest Bouz Ellis and Bears quarterback Caleb Williams. In December, the day after leading fans in cheers at the Bears game, Crow Armstrong joined Williams and Chicago area rooted music video guru Cole Bennett for what they dubbed the holiday handoff, giving meals to 3,000 families across the city. Crow Armstrong spent Christmas with family in the west suburbs. And in January, the day after the Bears season ending playoff defeat, Crow Armstrong sat with Williams at a Blackhawks game. The pair greeted by loud roars when they were shown on the stadium screen. They were back the very next night for a Bulls game. Stirring talk of a bromance. PCA loves the passion that flows through the city, the authenticity, the edge. He can run down his favorite spots to eat, from Oliveita to Gibson's. He has his favorite.
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You're gonna say Olive Garden.
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Dan Bernstein
No. Oliveita. No, I haven't seen him out at Addison and the Kennedy.
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No.
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Dan Bernstein
At that big Olive Garden. That Olive Garden's always packed. Said he has his favorite local escapes, be it a stroll on the lakefront or a quick nine holes at the Sydney R. Marovitz Golf Course in Lakeview. Now, I paused there. If you have evidence of a quick nine holes at Maravitz, that's a massive news story.
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All right, well, maybe he does, though. Maybe he. Maybe he's afforded an opportunity to have a quicker round than the average person.
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Dan Bernstein
You will never play a slower nine holes in your entire entire life than at Marovitz.
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Unless he gets a tee off first.
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Dan Bernstein
Unless he, unless they, they clear the course. And I. I've been at Robert Black when, when Theo Epstein showed up with Jack and they were playing and they had all sorts of, like, security around them, like the prince was there or something. But I don't know that they. They clear out Marvitz for him. If he can play a quick nine holes there, he's superhuman.
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That.
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Dan Bernstein
That's your superhero. You are bending time, space, and dimension. If you said, oh, yeah, I played a Marovitz in an hour 45. Not a chance. That is. That is three hours minimum from the time you park and then walk back with your parking thing and then try to get warmed up and then hit your first ball in the lake. Just trust me. No way. He plays a quick nine there.
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Dude, I have to find this place. I can't remember what it was called, but when I was in high school, we used to go. There was one on the western suburbs, and it was a public course. And we'd go on the weekends, and you'd have to line up and the gates weren't even open, and your cars are just lined up on the street because it was first come, first serve. And I remember the first time we did this, there was four of us in the car, me and my high school buddies. And I remember we pulled into the parking lot and it's so. It's dark, and so the headlights. All of a sudden our headlights turn on, like, towards the clubhouse. And it was all these old men, like, running as fast as they could, like guys with walkers. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, this is really. People are really running to get the first in line. So I'm like, get out, get out, get out, get out of the car. And, like. And so all of a sudden you see, like, three high school guys get
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Dan Bernstein
out and start sprinting, knocking over the guys with the walkers, running in between
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them and running past them just to get them. And, man, we got the dirty looks. And so that became like, our regular early, early thing. We used to play Saturday mornings before what course? I would go work. I got to find. And I got to find whatever public course it was. I'll find the name. But we'd go early because my buddies worked at a car wash. And so we had to go and we had to be the first ones to tee off, otherwise we were never going to finish and be able to go to our jobs.
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Dan Bernstein
It sounds like, is it Beth Page Black? No, no, no, no. But I'm saying, is that the.
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That's New York.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, I know, but that's also a place where people sleep in their cars, right?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, that's a public course. Yep.
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Dan Bernstein
But I thought specifically to get on the open course or whatever is used.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Probably. I mean, I would do that once.
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Dan Bernstein
Yes. That they will sleep in their cars to get up and get out on that course.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, I would do it one time so I could. So I could hit it like a 175 and lose every golf ball we've
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Dan Bernstein
ever come in contact with.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Lose four dozen.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, I can do that. I probably do that at Marovitz. I've played there when there have been snow drifts. We're so excited to get out there. I seriously hit my ball into a massive snow drift.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
If I get through a round, like using two golf balls, that's like. That's like shooting a 60.
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Dan Bernstein
Are you kidding? If depending on where you play, if I have to, like wash a ball,
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
that's a victory and not your own.
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Dan Bernstein
If I know if I have a ball long enough, like, you know what? There's. There's some. There's some grass stains and marks. I gotta actually have to wash this golf ball. And if I do, that's automatic. The next shot is. Is. Is gone. Automatic. If I taunt the golf gods by washing it because, like, you know, you know, I could use a couple little extra yards here if I were going to wash this off. And then it's immediately shanked into God knows where. That's just going to happen because I taunt them in my infinite wisdom. You know, whenever the stakes are high, my bookie is the place you can go to turn bets into bankroll. There's always a big matchup on this schedule. I was watching College Ball last night. I missed my Amen Thompson steals bet. He got the two. Remember, I said I was gonna go with the two and then I, I got greedy. I got greedy and I went for the three.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I. I'm 14 and 4 now because UNC won for me. They won outright and I was getting points. But then Kansas just. Kansas just. They did something to Houston.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, they did.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I. I didn't expect Houston to lose three in a row. I know Kansas was like 40 and oh. Under Bill Self on Big Monday. I, I just thought they would. I will talk about it more later, but.
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Guest or Additional Commentator
Wow.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
What.
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Dan Bernstein
What a.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
What a. What a. What a defensive output there by Kansas.
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Dan Bernstein
Yep, they're good. And I actually thought that you had a better. You did a better job in Fran for Shella talking about the Houston defense because he kept saying, boy, this Houston team under Kelvin Sampson, they really defend. They really defense.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
No, they don't.
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Dan Bernstein
Not this one.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
No, they. They. This one and two in that game last Night they got. They got the shit kicked out of on the boards too. The offensive rebound. I told you, that's where. That's where. That's where they're. They're one of their biggest weaknesses. Teams can get defensive rebounds on them, and they will.
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Dan Bernstein
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we
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Dan Bernstein
talked a little bit about US hockey yesterday and the dual gold medals, men and women, and the fact that the women's team was invited in Mass to attend the State of the Union tonight. And they very quickly declined.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Well, first of all, let me, let me stop you there. Who the fuck wants to go the State of the Union? First of all, I mean, if you're a professional team or country, to sit there for the State of the Union,
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Dan Bernstein
you've got to be.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
And then to hear orange guy.
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Dan Bernstein
No, but if you're allowed to leave, if you're allowed to just like wave and bail and then go get something to eat or something, that would be different than having to sit there the whole time. But they didn't want to go and they didn't go. And now there's something brewing within USA Hockey that I think deserves some attention. And we were joking yesterday at the expense of cash Patel, because he's and he will obviously be remembered as one of the all time clowns in the history of government, as he was in there drinking and spraying beer and wearing the gold medals when he was also actually technically and officially on business as the head of the United States Department of Justice. According to all reports that that was official business. And he got Trump on the phone in the locker room after the men won the gold medal, and there was a moment there that I thought was significant. So I want you to listen to this. This has been played on multiple outlets. I'm sure you've heard it a million different places right now, but this is Cash Patel surrounded by the gold medal winning men's US Hockey team, and he's holding his phone up while on speaker. Trump is talking to everybody, and I want you to listen to the quote unquote joke that was told and the reaction of the men's team.
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Guest or Additional Commentator
We'll do the White House the next day. We'll just have some fun. We have medals for you guys. And we have to, I must tell you, have to bring the woman's team. You do know that. I do believe I probably would be impeached. Okay. But anyway, if you could work that out, I would be honored to have you. I'll introduce you to the.
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Dan Bernstein
Wow.
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Guest or Additional Commentator
I got it, boss.
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Dan Bernstein
I got it.
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Guest or Additional Commentator
Okay. You got it.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I'm on it.
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Guest or Additional Commentator
She's doing it.
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Dan Bernstein
I'm happy. I'm on it.
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Guest or Additional Commentator
Congratulations. That was an unbelievable game.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay, come on. I'm on it. That's the head of the Justice Department, by the way. Yeah.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I mean, that's Team Lodge right there. Jesus God. That'd be. That would have been a real coup to get that guy on team Live.
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Dan Bernstein
Where's your new member?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Oh, he's the head of the FBI.
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Dan Bernstein
The necklace that says Cash on it with the. With the dollar signs, the S. When he was marketing all that.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Oh, we would have totally got that for him.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, absolutely. I didn't even. Yes, he'd be perfect like this.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
He would have been ideal. Team Lodge.
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Dan Bernstein
Yes. Your little, little forefoot.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Oh, him and Hegseth. Oh, my God. Oh, I know what his Team Lodge was still in. Still intact. I would have gotten. I get both those guys on Team Lodge for sure.
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Dan Bernstein
It'd be so much fun. You'd all be at the cubby, Bear asleep.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yes. Hey, I got some new members, fellas. Welcome. Pete and Cash.
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Dan Bernstein
So, but here's the problem. That laugh on the part of the men's team in the locker room right there, that, you know, I. I got to invite the women's team, I guess. I don't get it. Why is that so funny?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
So here's the thing. I don't understand. I don't understand the laughter. I don't. I don't get it. But.
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Guest or Additional Commentator
But
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I'm not sure what the laughter was about. I have to invite the women's team, too. And then someone Starts yelling, two for two. Two for two. So I took that as a positive thing. Hey, we won both gold medals. We're two for two. And that was like. I took that as a positive. Yeah. You know, we both got to be there because we Both won. We're 2 for 2. I just don't quite get the laughter. The initial laughter right away.
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Dan Bernstein
And then there was a second joke. I really would be impeached. And he said, the woman's team. I got to invite the woman's team.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
That's not why you should be impeached.
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Dan Bernstein
But I mean, what.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
So, yeah, so I don't quite understand.
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Dan Bernstein
Unless.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Unless I could hear from guys that were there, from the players, like, what was funny? Like, why did you laugh at that? I don't. I don't know. I don't get it.
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Dan Bernstein
Well, this is. Well, we were talking about youth sports before, and also anybody who has had kids in hockey has known that every month, USA Hockey magazine arrives, and there is. You want. Because once you get your USA Hockey number and anybody who plays sanctioned hockey in this country, you are a part of USA Hockey. You just are. And you're on every mailing list and all of every email list, and your kid is. Every year, you've got to have your official USA Hockey number. And that's how they know that there's no shenanigans going on with. With ages or people moving around from team to team. And we have had even in, like, house league years and years ago, they wanted to move a player to a different team that had to go all the way up to USA Hockey to be approved. So it's part of your life. And I think USA Hockey has a decision to make regarding the men's team here and maybe wants to take it out of their hands, because once the women's team declined that invite, There is a question now of what the right thing is to do for the men's team as far as sending the right message from USA Hockey. Does the men's team want to support the women's team in this regard? And we know that that laughter was not a good look. That. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Women say you got to invite the women's team. Okay, well, all I know is that when you do get stuff from USA Hockey, it says, like, they. They go out of their way to say, USA Hockey is committed to providing an inclusive and welcoming environment for all participants. And they say that we seek to attract and build a diverse and inclusive organization and membership at every level. We are committed to creating a Welcoming environment for all without discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, religion, culture, health, veteran status, color beliefs, physical or cognitive ability, gender, socioeconomic background, sexual identification, social status, and age. We actively support and show appreciation for people with multicultural backgrounds and various life experiences to embrace unification and opportunity within the hockey community while strengthening our commitment to connect with all audiences. All I would say to USA Hockey is prove it. Prove it. And are you gonna let the women hang on this one? I'm just very curious what these, all of these NHL players and the men's team, should USA Hockey take it out of their hands and say in solidarity with our women's team, if they're not going, we're not going. For whatever reason, it's all. All of us go from USA Hockey or none of us go. And the men's team's been very quiet. They haven't said anything officially, and USA Hockey hasn't said anything officially. But I just think that this is an opportunity for this organization to live up to everything it says it is. And if they're not, you better explain why. You better explain why.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
You know, just sitting here thinking through it and. And hearing that clip again and the laughter again, I want to hear from the players, like, why did you laugh? Like, what. What was. What was funny about what was fun.
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Dan Bernstein
Because.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Because they. They didn't have the time to be able to sit and process why Trump said that, what he meant. We know what Donald Trump thinks of women. We know that. And so we know that in his initial comment there, when he said that, his brain is thinking, well, they're less than their objects. They're pieces of things that I can do whatever I want with.
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Dan Bernstein
And now I have to, because I'm doing now, I guess now I have to invite the women.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
And in that moment, in the euphoria of winning a gold medal for the first time since 1980, like this.
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Dan Bernstein
These.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
These men are there, and like, they're just in the euphoria of the moment, and they didn't, you know, they didn't process the political ramifications of what it meant to have the Cash Patel there. And overall, in hindsight's really 2020 on this whole process, that it's. It's a really bad look. It's not surprising that he was there. He's done less with government money and government airplanes, like flying his girlfriend around on dates. But in the moment, I don't think they quite understood what it was they were doing. And I'm not excusing the behavior, but I think it'd Be really hard in the moment to say, oh, well, why is the president making women, you know, comments about women?
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Dan Bernstein
I understand. And I don't. And I also don't that even if somebody after was like, yeah, that was, that was kind of bad, then say something. Yeah, the weather.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Say something.
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Dan Bernstein
Now, I, I don't know that if one of the Hughes brothers, because we know what, what Jack Hughes specifically has done, and he's been awesome with inclusion, with Pride tape and LGBTQ stuff. There's all, there's videos of him talking about how important it is to him and that inclusiveness. Like, but I don't know.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
His mom, who was a silver medalist, who was part of the coaching. Yeah, the women's national team.
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Dan Bernstein
Exactly. Ellen Weinberg, his mother was. He was a sister star player and deeply involved with the women's side of USA Hockey. So to have a laugh at the expense of the women's.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
We got.
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Dan Bernstein
Invite the women. That I would. It would have been nice, but it's a lot to expect in a locker room for a young kid to stand up and say, guys, don't laugh at that. This, this isn't funny.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Like, so in, in the moment, I'm gonna, I'm gonna let it, I'm gonna let it slide. But, like, there's been enough time where someone, someone should have come out after the fact and said, hey, you know what? That was inappropriate to laugh at. In hindsight, hearing back the comments and our laughter wasn't generated at the women's hockey program. It wasn't generated at what the women accomplished. And it was just a really bad look in the moment. And I regret laughing in that moment, but I wasn't thinking through the whole implications of what Donald Trump was saying
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Dan Bernstein
there about women and given time to understand it better, I wish I'd reacted differently. Cool.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yes.
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Dan Bernstein
But, But I, I, I do.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Like, enough time has passed now where that's, it's too late now.
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Dan Bernstein
And I do think for that, that as an organization, I don't know if. We don't know if the men are going to be there tonight. We don't know. So.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
But he said he wasn't wanting to invite them to the White House and give them medals. You're not doing that during this state.
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Dan Bernstein
No, but there was. There was also an invitation in the State of the Union that he wanted both of the teams there.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Why. Why the. Would anyone.
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Dan Bernstein
I don't know. I don't know. Because they want to. It's because.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I don't mean.
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Dan Bernstein
I don't.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I don't mean just Trump either.
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Dan Bernstein
I don't.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I would want to go see anybody.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, I, I would do.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
That's just me. And maybe somebody would.
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Dan Bernstein
I would do the Ruth Bader Ginsburg and fall asleep. No. Don't you remember when she nodded off and then she, she blamed like Renquist or something having to giving her too much wine.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Oh, that's right.
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Dan Bernstein
Or was it Scalia?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, it might have been Scalia, but.
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Dan Bernstein
That's right.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
There was too much wine involved.
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Talkspace User/Testimonial
Yeah.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
And.
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Dan Bernstein
And my guess is a Team Lodge movie is. My guess is as horrible as Antonin Scalia was. I bet his wine cellar was totally kick ass. I bet, I bet that dude had incredible wines.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, I'm gonna go with like two Buck Chuck. I'm gonna go the opposite way. No, he probably Ernest and Julio.
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Dan Bernstein
No, no, no. He had like reserve Brunello's from the back of the castle somewhere in Tuscany. No, there's, there's, there's no doubt that he, he might be absolutely horrible and setting our, our, our opinion of, of constitutional matters back thousands of years, but he, he probably was able to come out with a nice matching bottle for whatever you were having.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, I just think in the, in the moment they didn't react properly and I, and I, you know, I hope there's regret on it right now because it's a real bad.
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Dan Bernstein
Look, one more point before I wrap this. Let me make one more quick point here. If you're going to use women's sports as that kind of punchline in a locker room and say, I gotta, I gotta invite the women. Oh boy. Gotta. Looks like I gotta invite the women. Then don't tell me that your whole goal in discriminating against trans athletes is to protect women's sports. Don't tell me that. Say you, you can, you can save that.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
That.
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Dan Bernstein
The, the only reason that, that, that underpins the antagonism and the, the active discrimination and demonization of trans people is under the guise of your. Because you care so much about the sanctity of women's sports. They matter so much to you that you've got to do this to pre. Because it's your job. You're the knight in shining armor protecting women's sports from the evil people. Don't tell me that. No.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, that's a good call.
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Dan Bernstein
Good point. No, you don't, you don't get to do that. And then also like, well, I guess I gotta invite the women. What do you say, guys? No. Nope, nope. Not that. That doesn't wash. Can't do it. Another quick hockey note. Johnny's east got sold. See that?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
No, I didn't.
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Dan Bernstein
Johnny's east is going to become a pickleball facility. And for those of us who spent years at Johnny's East, I kind of got a little like, there's a lot of, lot of memories in that building. A lot. Whether it was youth tournaments or being. That was our home ice when the Chicago South High School program was the Meteors, before they became the Eagles, before they folded in into another program, that, that was our home rink. That was, that was practices. That was home ice for games. And I did a lot of, A lot of nervous crossword puzzles up in the Stanley Club up there. Did a lot of pacing. Occasionally would do celebratory shot at Jack Daniels every once in a while after a big win. But I sometimes would retreat up to the Stanley Club. When was that?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
With the kids or just the parents?
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Dan Bernstein
What, the Stanley Club or the shots?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
The shots.
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Dan Bernstein
No. Well, I will say that we live, you know, we were around hockey long enough to go from knowing where I would put his chocolate milk, like when he was a little kid and playing a tournament game there or something, or having a practice there and setting the chocolate milk on the outside of the boards to stay cold, to him leaving at 11 o' clock at night and being with the guys in the locker room having their, the. The Labats at midnight after a men's league game.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Did you, did you ever go to. You, I'm sure you went to Gunzos. Oh, God, we used to spend so much time at Gunzos too.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, we lived at both Gunzos. I mean the one on Laughlin, right near a couple blocks down from Johnny's.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Is there one in Forest Park?
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Dan Bernstein
Morton Grove.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Morton Grove, there's one.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. Yeah, we live there. And I would, believe me, when, when they, when they would have the, like the clearance goalie skates and like last year's this and last year's that.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
River Forest.
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Dan Bernstein
That's what?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
River Forest.
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Dan Bernstein
Or the time he was. The time he got his first goalie cup and he's in the bathroom and he's like, I don't know if this fits. I don't know if I'm putting it on right. And I just opened the door. I'm like, well, let's see. Dad, close the door. No, walk around. I'm not walking around in this thing.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
So Johnny Z sold.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay, Johnny's east and now it's pickleball. It's going to be. But too bad it's Too. The land is just so valuable there and you got all that parking underneath and everything, but just too many. Too many memories of. Of lots and lots and lots of hockey. Lots of wins, lots of losses. All in.
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Guest or Additional Commentator
In.
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Dan Bernstein
In that smelly old building. But that's. I. I will miss it.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I had to. I had to text my cousin Johnny Bobcat about that golf course. I couldn't remember what public course we used to play. It was Meadowlark in Hinsdale on 31st Metal Lark. I've not.
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Dan Bernstein
Is it still exist?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yes.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay. No, I've. I've not played there.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Little public. Little nine hole public course. That. And, you know, we. We always got the benefit of the greens being aerated.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, fun.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah. And so, yeah, it is.
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Dan Bernstein
All the.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
All the chunks of dirt sitting there.
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Dan Bernstein
Right.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
And you're trying to putt and. Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, yeah. But I actually, I thought that leveled the playing field a little bit.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
If you knew somebody was a great putter, like. Well, the greens just air at him. I don't know. Sucks for you. Yep.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Too bad.
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Dan Bernstein
I'm just trying to get it close. If it plinkos its way in there, bounce left, right, left, right, left, right, and in. I'm good. I planned that the whole way. I wanted that to happen. Well, you know, whenever the stakes are high, my bookie is where you turn bets into bankroll. And march is right here, right around the corner. College basketball is heating up. That means my bookie is waiting for you. As the conference races titan, as bubble teams fight for their lives. Every game matters. Every possession feels bigger. It's when things start to get really fun. It isn't just about picking winners. That's what Maddie does. Maddie's the picker of. Of winners. I like the props. And the prop board is loaded. Team totals, player points, tournament odds, you can bet now. Futures, you can bet now. There's value everywhere. And sometimes this far out of the tournament is where you're really going to find value. If you're willing to take a risk. So you can jump on in right now. One account, one wallet. The spread, the second half, live betting, the casino between games. Everything is in one place. Everything is at MyBookie AG. When you go there, register, deposit, use the code DBU. When you do, in anticipation of everything that's going to go on this march. This is where you want to be with that code. Then your first bet is covered up to 500 bucks. If it doesn't hit, you then have a bet back bonus. That token is something that you can Just slap on the table and then you run it back. So that's up to 500 bucks to cover that first bet, which you can get back if you. If it. If it goes awry. My bookie ag. Don't just watch the madness build. Make it pay with my bookie. We said we were going to table the Iraq poing discussion based on my. My policy change yesterday.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Well, potential policy.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, yeah. There's. There are a lot of people weighing in on this. Who and who are. Who are mad at me yet from yesterday.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
They should be.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah. And let me just read a couple of things. I didn't want to save this for Friday feedback Friday because it was too pressing. There were just too many people like, no, no, Bernstein, you've got to unwind this because you're being stupid. So this, this was from Tim, and I just want to read what. What he said because I think this did the best job summing up what many have said. And if you missed it yesterday, you should go back and listen. But I was just talking about how I think as much as I've made fun of the idea of having a company have to identify their celebrity endorser and how it's always silly when you've spent that money on somebody and you have to take expository time to explain to people, to actually tell people who the famous person is. And I said, now I tend to need it because I don't know who any of the famous people are. Well, Tim said, you're so deep now, Bernstein, you've lost the plot. You're completely unhinged. Dan, your argument goes roughly like this. If I had to have the people in that Pokemon commercial explain to me as to who they were, then obviously I can't be against iraqpoing because I needed it. No, no, no, Dan, the argument against it is not and never was you shouldn't name your endorser because I should know who they are. It's different than that. Your actual argument has been if you have to name your endorser, that's a bad use of endorsement money and you should pick somebody who is widely known. A company that has to iraqpo an endorser has picked the wrong endorser. That's the point.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Correct.
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Dan Bernstein
That you didn't know so many of the endorsers in the Pokemon commercial isn't an argument for Iraq poing. It's validation that Iraq powing is a company telling on its own advertising firm or department says, no, he's just keep up the great work. Otherwise. Right.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
No he's spot on. That's why I was. I didn't like that yesterday at all. I barely slept last night.
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Dan Bernstein
I know. It's just for me, it's hard to square. It's hard to square for myself being like, who's that guy? Who's that woman? Who's that person? And even when they say the name,
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
like, oh, yeah, I still don't know. Yeah. It's a completely different argument. I mean, it's a whole. And it's one commercial, and it's about the anniversary of the Pokemon movie or something. It's like, it's not for you to begin with.
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Dan Bernstein
Okay, all right, fine.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, we're still gonna get on companies at a rack bow, because that's the whole point of it. It's a waste of your money. If you need to identify the celebrity, it's a bad celebrity choice.
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Dan Bernstein
That's what. And this is Austin in the eight
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
they're getting. But, but, but. Sorry. But there's another argument, though. When you. A rack bow someone that you don't need to. A rack bow. That's.
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Dan Bernstein
That's different. Yeah, that's different. Like, that's a. You're Frank Thomas or you're Jennifer Aniston. Right. Which is part of that.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
That.
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Dan Bernstein
And then they're trying to make. But they're trying to make fun of that.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, I know.
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Dan Bernstein
But still in the. What is. It's not. What's the popcorn? Everybody loves Skinny Pop.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Skinny Pop. But when you. When you. A rack bow someone that doesn't need to be a rack bowed, then. Then you're just dumb. And he's. And wasting money with that company.
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Dan Bernstein
He says it's not up to us, the consumer, to pick people worth the company's money. That everyone will know. Just because a company picks someone that isn't known either means it's bad money, or as Matt said, the commercial's not for you. So a rack pulling doesn't matter anyway because you can say the name and it still wouldn't click. The company needs to be harpooned either because it's not a famous celebrity or their advert advertising on tv, which a hell of a lot of the younger people aren't watching anyway.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Right.
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Dan Bernstein
Agreed.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Great.
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Dan Bernstein
Great.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Good emails there.
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Dan Bernstein
Good.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Both emails, good. Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
Everyone was coming after me. I was. I was getting beat up like a pinata yesterday.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Do you have any more emails to share about that or.
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Dan Bernstein
No, No. I think those two did the best job.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, I saw. I know.
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Dan Bernstein
I just.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
I want to make a point real Quick. And we got an email yesterday from Josh W. And I just want to say, Josh, thanks for emailing. Thanks for reaching out, and we appreciate you listening, pal. So we're here for you.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, there was a lot in that regard. I want to get to a lot of Good Friday. A lot of good stuff. And one last thing. Is this. Is this El Mencho deal? This is intense, man. Have you really seen what was going on with this dude? Did you see how many people are dead? Like, usually they say something like this. Oh, there was a. There was a brief firefight, and the drug dealer was dragged out, and somebody was. 70 people were killed. 70. This was like a. I don't even know what movie to compare it. Like Heat or. Or the Town or Butch Cassidy and the sundance kid. Like, 70 people are dead because they found this guy getting laid. This man was done in by a wandering wiener. Let that be a lesson to you. You, for all you aspiring drug dealers out there. I mean, that whoever this woman is, who. Who got El Mencho to come out of hiding and. And go after whatever he was looking for. I. I don't know who she is. Her name is Guadalupe Moreno Carrillo.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
She must be something.
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Dan Bernstein
She must be something special, because El Mencho, Nemesio Oseguera Cerrantes, the leader of the Jalisco cartel, New Generation, which sounds like a boy band, he came out of Heidi. He risked this, and they knew it, to spend one night with her. And they blowed him up real good. But not before they're losing, like, helicopters and there's. They're out there. There's grenade launchers and mortars, and we know that she.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Did she blow him up real good before he got blowed up real good?
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Dan Bernstein
I. All it says is that they spent the night and then they tracked him there.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
So they waited.
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Dan Bernstein
They let him. I hope it was a good night.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, at least. At least he got the night in.
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Dan Bernstein
I hope. I'm gonna say, like, I hope you enjoyed it, El Mencho, because that was all. El Explodo the next day. Well, wow.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Maybe during the night, too.
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Dan Bernstein
My goodness, though. 70 people are dead. And then there was the other guy that all of a sudden, the second in command took over. Did you see that?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Didn't they get him?
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Dan Bernstein
They did, yeah. Because the second guy, El Tooley, took over for El Mencho. And then the defense minister, who is the right hand man, El Tulle, was the mastermind behind the series of roadblocks, arson attacks, and hits on government installations. And a paratrooper Rifle brigade tracked down El Tooley and killed him in a shootout, seizing long and short firearms alongside nearly $1.4 million in mixed US and Mexican currency. But, I mean, this is like in Jalisco. 25 National Guard members, a prison official, a prosecutor's office employee, and a presumed civilian woman were killed, along with 30 suspected criminals. That's just one battle.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
This was multiple fronts. This is wild, man.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah. And people are stuck and trapped down there. And I've heard stories of, like, people like, in flights and like, en route to Mexico and then stopping like, in Texas somewhere and then turning back around. And I mean, it's not. Not a good scene, man. You're on vacation. Good thing it didn't happen when a lot of, like, Illinois schools and stuff were on spring break. I know a lot of families head down to Mexico and.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, and isn't there a. A big soccer friendly coming up there? I want to see.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah. Thursday, it's. Iceland and Mexico are playing a friendly, which they said it's still on, which I don't like. I'm not sure I'd want to participate. Not that. I mean, who knows if they would do anything.
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Dan Bernstein
But I. I don't know if Iceland is in danger because there's World cup games that are going to be played there. But, like, you see the headline, like, okay, they got this guy. And then you look at the death toll on this and they're. And even still, they're like, they. Did they expect that when they went in that they. They were going to lose that many soldiers to a. To a drug cartel? And I know that they're armed to the teeth, like more than a paramilitary almost. What's in between an actual military and a paramilitary, but, man. Okay, I just. I wonder if we're going to learn more about. Or if she's going to become involved on. Does she get a management job now? Guadalupe?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Well, someone will get an interview with her, I'm sure.
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Dan Bernstein
I. I would think. There's only one should be on the viewer. No, you can have a reality show.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Good Morning America.
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Dan Bernstein
The Real Housewives of Guadalajara. No, no.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
The Real mistresses of Guadalajara.
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Dan Bernstein
Right. That's true. Because his wife was captured. I think his. That El Mencho's wife was. With the wife gone, and then she came to town and he's like, all right, I got. I'll do whatever I gotta do. And he had that, that. That last night before things. Bad things went.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Took place. Yes, yes. Did you see. Did you. Did you read anything about Lindsey Vaughn?
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Dan Bernstein
What.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
What she experienced.
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Dan Bernstein
Oh, that she got her leg amputated or was gonna be.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
She was almost going to be amputated. She had that compartment syndrome where they had to perform that fosseotomy on her.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah, that's no good.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Where they got to cut. They had to cut, like, both sides of her leg open or leave the pressure. Oh, yeah, that's terrible, man.
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Dan Bernstein
Could you imagine?
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
She'd have lost her leg and then
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Dan Bernstein
you see, her dog died.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Her dog died, like, the day after the accident.
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Dan Bernstein
Yeah.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
How about you feel bad now? You were joking that she got airlifted off the thing and crashed before.
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Dan Bernstein
I was gonna say that. The dog dying. They probably also not mention that the other U.S. woman won the gold. What was her name? Dusty Springfield. Breezy Johnson.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Breezy Johnson. Dusty Springfield isn't a singer.
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Dan Bernstein
Yes, Breezy Johnson won the. Breezy Johnson, but you don't hear her name because they're all concerned about everything that's happening to Lindsey Vaughn. Even though she crashed because she was hurt and then crashed again.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah, but bad stuff, man.
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Dan Bernstein
I didn't.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Yeah. When I saw that she almost had her leg amputated.
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Dan Bernstein
Well, compartment syndrome is no joke.
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Talkspace User/Testimonial
It's not.
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Dan Bernstein
That's what Brian Erlacher had. But luckily they caught it in the early stages and they were able to take the pressure out of there. But that's. Yeah, that's. That's scary stuff.
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Co-host or Guest Analyst
Wow. Yeah.
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Dan Bernstein
Brutal. All right, now we've got the combine going on in Indianapolis and we do have. We'll get some information on the Bears. All of that stuff, all the football stuff, all the Bears. You know where to find all that. That's going to be on forward progress. And we're going to have everything Bears and NFL related for you. This has been Dan Bernstein Unfiltered and it has been brought to you in partnership with my bookie, Dan Bernstein. Unfiltered. Unfiltered on 312 Sports.
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