Tim Anderson’s Farewell: Talent, Pressure, and the Support He Never Had

Summary

Podcast Summary: Dan Bernstein Unfiltered

Episode: Tim Anderson’s Farewell: Talent, Pressure, and the Support He Never Had

Date: August 11, 2026
Host: Dan Bernstein (DB)
Co-Host: Matt Abbatacola

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Episode Theme

This episode centers on the emotional and complicated farewell of Tim Anderson, the two-time AL batting champ, as he retires from the Chicago White Sox. Using Anderson’s recent press conference and career as a focal point, Dan Bernstein passionately critiques the White Sox organization—especially their culture, leadership, and lack of mental health support. The discussion extends into broader issues of mental health in professional sports, the pressures athletes face, and the need for systemic changes in sports culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tim Anderson’s Retirement Announcement (01:09–04:52)

• The White Sox will honor Tim Anderson in September, allowing him to retire officially as a member of the team.
• Bernstein reacts strongly, calling Anderson’s story "not a nice story" but a "harrowing story" about mental health in sports.
• Bernstein acknowledges Anderson’s complicated off-field life and emphasizes understanding his journey in the context of mental health struggles.
• Focus on Anderson’s peak moment: hitting the walk-off home run in the Field of Dreams game.

2. Anderson’s Own Words & Press Conference Reflections (04:12–07:36)

• Bernstein shares direct quotes from Anderson, who candidly discussed anxiety, pain, and personal loss associated with his career.
• Anderson:

  “The game brought a lot of good moments, but also brought a lot of pain. It gives me anxiety just stepping into talking about baseball. I'm sweating now. I want to be as open as I can. A lot of great moments. But throughout playing, it definitely was a lot of dark moments. I lost a lot of people. I don't know if he means literally or figuratively, maybe both. It got to the point where I really couldn't enjoy being in that setting. It just wasn't the same.”
  — Tim Anderson [04:14]

• He fought to return over the last two or three years but couldn’t get back to form, stating he is now happier outside the game and focusing on his family.

3. The Absence of Guidance & Organizational Critique (07:36–16:13)

• Bernstein hones in on Anderson’s statement:

  "I never had no guidance... Nobody knows what I sacrificed and what the body felt every day. I still kept going. … Life is bigger than trying to make people happier with a bat and a ball."
  — Tim Anderson [06:52]

• Bernstein recalls Anderson’s lackluster All-Star team announcement, previously mocked but now viewed as a sign of Anderson’s internal struggles [08:52].
• Deep criticism of the White Sox for failing to provide leadership and support—especially during Tony La Russa’s tenure as manager.
• Bernstein describes La Russa as "this grumbling, half sentient octogenarian," blaming Reinsdorf’s hiring choice as a "lead blanket" that crushed the team’s culture [09:14–12:15].
• Questions whether a younger, more engaged manager (like AJ Hinch) would have changed Anderson’s experience and perhaps the entire team’s trajectory.

4. Mental Health Support in Sports (14:13–19:19)

• Bernstein demands to know what, if any, mental health resources were available to Anderson and other players.
• Frustration that mental health is not treated as seriously as physical injuries, emphasizing the need for professionals within organizations dedicated to athlete well-being:

  "...what you are going through is as real as a torn rotator cuff and maybe more painful." [14:32]

• Advocacy for organizational change:

  “There should be somebody on every team who is… professionally in charge of understanding, of finding, of seeking out players who need guidance. Their entire job is to identify, you know, who might need a little extra hand, somebody to talk to.” [18:12]

5. Broader Takeaways and Personal Reflections (20:50–24:18)

• Bernstein shares his own experience with acute clinical anxiety, emphasizing the invisible and debilitating nature of mental health issues—even for top athletes.
• He draws parallels between his struggles and Anderson’s, underlining the need for empathy and systemic change in sports and beyond.

• “The guy was a wreck. Baseball absolutely tore him up. And he's still doing it. He's still doing it. And that's why when he's going through it again, there's almost like a revictimization where he's just trying to get through a press conference now.” [21:35]

6. Call to Action & Upcoming Mental Health Panel (24:18–32:16)

• Bernstein plugs his participation in the “More Than the Game, Mental Health in Sports” webinar (Rebecca’s Dream foundation), striving to normalize mental health discussions and break the stigma.
• Cites NCAA rules penalizing athletes who need time off for mental health issues—calling for change at every level of athletics.

7. Final Reflections on Responsibility & Change (32:16–33:08)

• Urges listeners (especially sports organizations) to treat mental health as seriously as physical health and to build real support systems for athletes.
• The message:

  “Do better, all of us. We can all do better. I don't want more Tim Anderson’s out there. I don't want more star major league baseball players flame out early in their careers and then talk about how unhappy baseball made them, because that’s what anxiety will do to you.” [32:16–33:08]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Tim Anderson (via press conference):

  “Going back to play is probably not for me right now. … Anxiety is just something I would rather not step into. … I never had no guidance.” [06:49–06:57]

• Dan Bernstein:

  "He sounds like he gave his happiness to the game. That's what he's saying. This is awful." [07:54]
  “Because you never knew what it would have been like at the key point in your career to have a real manager, to have somebody who really cared about you.” [09:12]
  “If it's too late to help Tim Anderson, it's not too late to help other people.” [24:18]

• On La Russa/Reinsdorf decision:

  “...because of one selfish whim … [Reinsdorf] decided to install somebody who didn't deserve the job, who wasn't prepared for the job, wasn’t capable of doing the job.” [09:42]

• On sports culture and mental health:

  “There should be somebody on every team who is professionally in charge of understanding … who might need a little extra hand, somebody to talk to.” [18:12]

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Other Segments

Trading Card Craze & Million Dollar Pull (34:03–40:30)

• Discussion on the discovery of a rare Cooper Flagg basketball card by the Rhode Island “Roadie Breakers.”
• Tangents about the value, proper handling, excitement (or lack thereof) in the video, and nostalgic reflections on pulling prized cards as kids.
• Bernstein recalls pulling a Walter Payton card in 1977 and injuring himself in the thrill—highlighting the enduring emotional attachment to collecting [49:10–50:19].

Odd News: Fort Wayne Arson Update (41:54–47:56)

• Follow-up on a previously covered bizarre news story about the Peden brothers in Fort Wayne and a spate of self-inflicted and sibling-involved arson.
• Light-hearted, irreverent take on dark small-town news.

Gourmet Potato Chips Mini-Review (53:15–59:51)

• Matt gifts Dan a $7 bag of José Andrés potato chips, prompting a detailed “scouting report.”
• Bernstein’s verdict: visually impressive, high-quality, best saved for special occasions—“not worth double the per ounce price” as a regular snack [58:41–59:51].
• Chip banter closes the show with jokes about fancy potato chip parties.

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Important Timestamps

• Tim Anderson Press Conference & Quotes: 04:12–07:36
• Organizational Critique/La Russa Discussion: 08:52–14:13
• Mental Health in Sports Discussion: 14:13–24:17
• Personal Mental Health Reflection: 22:17–24:18
• Call to Action for Sports Culture Change: 32:16–33:08
• Trading Card Segment: 34:03–41:16
• Fort Wayne Update: 41:54–47:56
• Potato Chips Segment: 53:15–59:51

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Tone & Language

• Unflinching honesty: Bernstein is raw, personal, and direct—calling out the White Sox leadership while showing deep empathy for Tim Anderson.
• Mix of gravity and wit: The main segment is serious, but the podcast’s natural rhythm returns with irreverent jokes and banter in the lighter segments.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is a searing reflection on Tim Anderson’s career and the mental health challenges that shadow professional athletes, delivered with Dan Bernstein’s signature candor and passion. Its core message: It’s time for sports organizations to take mental health seriously, create real support structures, and ensure that players like Tim Anderson are never left without guidance again.

Transcript

[Dan Bernstein]

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[Dan Bernstein]

Dan Bernstein, unfiltered. Unfiltered on 312 Sports.

[Main Commentator]

It's DBU on three. One, two. And while the announcement of Tim Anderson's choice to retire as a Chicago White Sox player and the fact that he is going to be honored by the team with a special date in September before the September 17th game before the against the Tigers at Rate Field, he's going to throw out the first pitch and he's going to retire officially as a member of the White. So I think. Oh, okay. Nice. Oh, this is a kind of a nice story. It's not, it's not a nice story. It's a harrowing story. When you read what he's saying and hear the descriptions of how he was, when he was even talking about it, this is a mental health story. And at the moment, I'm pleased that he's seemingly okay. But reading the story about Tim Anderson has left me feeling angry all over again because of something that has bothered me about this team. And as somebody who grew up a White Sox fan, it's, I, I'm, I, I, I told you last week that I've been having a tough time getting over it. And all this is doing is, is rekindling some of these feelings and they're not good feelings. But I want you to, to hear what, what Tim Anderson said in his Zoom press conference where he was visibly agitated. Was he, he described himself th sweating his way through it. I had no idea that Tim Anderson was dealing with what he's apparently had been dealing with as a professional baseball player. Now, before I talk about it, I also want to stipulate to my awareness and full awareness of the difficulties that Tim Anderson has had with a very complicated life off the field and some decisions that he made. And it's really important to view that also in the context of mental health, especially when you hear him in his words and he talks about having hit the home run. In Dyersville, Iowa, there was a piece by Jeff Agrest in the Sun Times and a piece here by Lamont Pope in the Tribune as well. This is well covered. I'm sure elsewhere and others have transcribed what he said because it's important to be working with exactly what the two time AL batting champ said here. And he talks about the positive experience of the peak of his career of hitting the walk off home run in the field of Dreams game.

[Dan Bernstein]

He said the game brought a lot of good moments.

[Main Commentator]

The game of baseball. The game brought a lot of good moments, but also brought a lot of pain. It gives me anxiety just stepping into talking about baseball. I'm sweating now. I want to be as open as I can. A lot of great moments. But throughout playing, it definitely was a lot of dark moments. I lost a lot of people. I don't know if he means literally or figuratively, maybe both. It got to the point where I really couldn't enjoy being in that setting. It just wasn't the same. And I know, I believe it was one of his childhood friends who passed away when he was playing as well.

[Dan Bernstein]

Did he?

[Main Commentator]

You know, I don't know the specific list of the personal losses that he suffered. Even as I sit here and try to have an open conversation to be more calm and comfortable to talk about baseball, it's not really there anymore. I still love the game, but it's just brought too much pain to me. Going back to play is probably not for me right now. That's where I'm at right now. Definitely were great moments, but just overall the anxiety is just something I would rather not step into. I fought to try to get back. I fought for the last two, three years I trained. I just couldn't get the body to operate like it used to. I'm not one of those guys that's going to continue to try to get back somewhere where I couldn't get it back there. Overall, I'm happy. I'm happy in real life, happy in the real world. I get to enjoy my kids. I get to wake up and do whatever I want to do that makes me happy. As far as thinking about baseball, it's a lot of moments, a lot of cool moments. But for me, overall, it brought a lot of pain, a lot of anxiety, as you can see as we're talking right now. Why do that to myself? I don't have to. Who credited Bo Jackson, Frank Thomas, Darrell Boston manager Tony La Russa and chairman Jerry Reinsdorf for their help along his journey? I'm getting emotional now because we're talking about something. I worked my whole life to get there. I never knew the route, which turn. I never had no guidance. Remember that? I never had any guidance. I kept going. As you know, that was my saying. Just keep going. I know I came to the ballpark every day ready to compete, just ready to play for the logo. It's on the front of that jersey. And that's what I did. Nobody knows what I sacrificed and what the body felt every day. I still kept going. I had my moments where it bothered me, but I couldn't show it. And it got to a point where it started showing out loud and I couldn't control it. I'm kind of happier waking up and being able to be around my kids and really living a real life, because life is bigger than trying to make people happier with a bat and a ball. You know what I mean? Now I get to step outside of that and see what life is and really enjoying it. Talks about the White Sox. They took the chance on me. I didn't have a crazy resume. I didn't play all the crazy little camps and stuff. So they gave me a shot and stuck by my side. It's only right that I get to come back and retire as a White Sox. If this doesn't break your heart,

[Co-Host]

talking

[Main Commentator]

about making people happy with a bat and a ball. If this doesn't break your heart about hearing him, seeing him, like, when you.

[Co-Host]

When you.

[Main Commentator]

When you see the condition that he's in and how hard this is for him to even talk about being baseball, and.

[Co-Host]

And the.

[Main Commentator]

The way he talks about what it did to him. There's a lot of people say, I gave a lot to the game. I gave a lot to the game. He sounds like he. He gave his happiness to the game. That's what he's saying. This is awful. And I keep coming back to that. That phrase. And it sounds like when he says, yeah, thanks, Tony LaRussa. Thanks, Jerry Reinsdorf. Do you remember when he was named to the All Star team and it was like a funeral and we were making fun of it because it was. They showed the team released a video, and it was in a dark room, and it was Joe McEwing. It was Joe McCuing who got an announcement. Tim Anders has made the All Star team. Remember that? And it was like, dark, and there's a couple people half clapping.

[Co-Host]

Oh, yeah, I got the video right here. Yeah. No, I remember it now.

[Main Commentator]

And Anderson's just sitting, and we were. And at the time, I remember saying, maybe you remember better than I do, but I, I remember saying, like, what. What is this? You're releasing this video? That, that looks like a, A funeral. Everybody was miserable. He didn't seem happy. Like, okay, great, I made an All Star team. And I just remember how strange that was. He was an All Star in 21 and 22. He was a starter at shortstop for the 22 All Star Game. But, man, I, I, I, and I go back to that. And now I, now I feel bad for having made fun of it because he was obviously miserable. I think we said that, like, what? I think I said something. Who shot his dog? Or something like that. You're supposed to be like, yeah, guy made the All Star team. Even the announcement was weird. The whole thing was strange because it felt like there was a lead blanket on top of this team. And that lead blanket was called Tony La Russa. I am. Makes me angry when he says, I never had no guidance. You know why? You know why? Because you never knew what it would have been like at the key point in your career to have a real manager, to have somebody who really cared about you. And instead you got this grumbling, half sentient octogenarian who was falling asleep in the dugout, didn't know the rules, and at his initial introductory press conference, said he would judge the sincerity of any bat flip. Remember that? And the question was put to Tony LaRussa. Who are you to judge if it's sincere? Why is that? Why is that your call? This team had it. They had it. The organization, the fans, they had it. The marketing department, they had it. And Jerry Reinsdorf, because of one selfish whim that affected people, that affected the team, that affected the lives of these professionals, decided to install somebody who didn't deserve the job, who wasn't prepared for the job, wasn't capable of doing the job. Somebody didn't even seem interested in doing the job. The game had passed him by, and it had passed him by a long time ago. And he went from sitting next to Jerry and writing things on note cards and handing them to him to back in the dugout in a uniform, falling asleep. There is, there is some multiverse. There is some White Sox multiverse in

[Dan Bernstein]

which

[Main Commentator]

things are very, very different. In which the embrace of change the game, the embrace of the urban and urbane culture that just a little more

[Co-Host]

of

[Main Commentator]

the crackle that they had, the energy that they had, the lean in that they had, understand they were ahead of it with the Tim Anderson bat flip against the Royals, that, that became this moment. And they made a bobblehead of that moment. They knew it, we knew it, and they fucked it up and they set everything back. I don't know that it changes anything. I don't know. It changes that Luis Robert getting hurt or Eli Jimenez getting hurt and all the string of injuries and Johan Moncada getting hurt and everything just kind of running out of steam the way it did. But I know that there was an emotional lead blanket placed on it on purpose by the owner because he could and he owns it, and there's nothing you can say to the owner. And that's what that was. I felt he. And he said it and I felt I could rectify a mistake. And then he went back to talking about how Eddie Stankey and David Eckstein is his favorite player, even though he had Frank Thomas on his team. It's that kind of thing that just. That that still pisses me off. Look what, look what happened to Tim Anderson here. Yes, he has agency and yes, he made bad decisions. He did some things in his personal life he shouldn't have done. But when you hear what he's describing and then he says, I couldn't show it, I couldn't show it.

[Dan Bernstein]

Why not?

[Main Commentator]

Because you didn't have a supportive culture there. Because instead you had a 78 year old manager who was certainly not interested in players mental health. I don't know if to whom he went, what. Where was the White Sox support system? What was done? I'd like to know.

[Dan Bernstein]

I really would.

[Main Commentator]

I don't know. I don't know. And if there was a team of people versed in mental health who understand its importance, who could be there to say, what can we do? How can we support you? Most importantly, are you okay? Or to tell him, hey, man, what you're going through is real. What you are going through is as real as a torn rotator cuff and maybe more painful. As real as a high ankle sprain, as real as a, as a torn

[Dan Bernstein]

oblique,

[Main Commentator]

maybe even worse. But we get it. And we can tell you that this stuff is real and true. And tangible in some ways. And we're going to respect that and we're going to do everything we can to build you back up. But he said I didn't have no guidance. Why not? Why not what, what difference would a real manager and a different, more open and welcoming culture, what difference would that have made? And I'm not saying in the sense of what difference would that have made? I'm asking. I don't know. But I think of these multiverses in which a more aware manager, aware more generationally and aware more culturally,

[Dan Bernstein]

would have

[Main Commentator]

been sensitive to some of these things. Maybe just speak a little more of that language because of coming up through different. If AJ Hinch, and you can put whatever name on it you want, but we know AJ Hinch's name because of the graphic that the White Sox had prepared that had AJ Hinch's signature on there, that they were getting ready to do that. If I'm this angry about, if I feel this way, God, I'd love to know what, what Rick Hahn is thinking, what Brooks Boyer is thinking. Because they had this thing ready to launch. They had the whole campaign. They had, they had handsome, athletic, telegenic stars with big bright smiles. They had that white. And you could feel it. You could feel that Sox fans ready to run toward that energy. And instead because of the selfish whim of the owner and just he wanted to play with his toy. It was, it was at the time a slap in the face. The hiring of Tony La Russa. It was not only a setback for the organization in ways we now we didn't know. Who, who knew I would, I know Tim Anderson is going to say nice things about Tony La Russa. He's going to say nice things about Jerry Reinsdorf. And I have no doubt that Jerry Reinsdorf will give him a, an ambassador's role with the team. And if you think that counterbalances it, you think that makes up for it, that that's fine in your world or, and I tell you right now how a, a certain percentage of people responding to my thoughts on this are immediately, immediately going to show their ass. This is a, this is a show their ass warning. Who are immediately going to either respond to a headline to a thumbnail and attack Tim Anderson for his off field decisions and attack him for leading an untidy personal life without considering what acute clinical anxiety and or depression can do to influence those decisions and the lack of guidance that guidance should be. There should be somebody on every team who is, is professionally in charge of understanding, of finding of seeking out players who need guidance. Their entire job is to identify, you know, who might need a little extra hand, somebody to talk to.

[Dan Bernstein]

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[Main Commentator]

god, it pisses me off. This is exactly the kind of thing where sports can evolve. This, this is, this is yet another thing where sports has to be better. Sports in general, men's sports in particular, and at the highest levels, where the culture of sport has to be better. And I hope can be. And, and I think can be. I really do. I really think this is something that. That can be improved. But it takes work to do this. I, and I feel terrible for Tim Anderson. I feel bad for, for making fun of some of this stuff when, when he was going through it right in front of our eyes. And now we're hearing about it, and now we're hearing about exactly what he's saying. The, the. The guy was a wreck. Baseball absolutely tore him up. And he's still doing it. He's still Doing it. And that's why when he's going through it again, there's almost like a revictimization where he's just trying to get through a press conference now thinking about what he says baseball did to him. How about this? There's a quote here. This is the kicker quote from Jeff Agrest piece in the Sun Times

[Co-Host]

says

[Main Commentator]

he's doing a lot of cool things. I get to wake up every day and be happy. I ain't got to wake up hitting no curveball or worry about a 100 mile an hour fastball to be able to provide for my family. That's, that's sad beyond belief. And the truth is for Tim Anderson to have the courage to say these things, to have the courage to talk about anxiety, to use that word, that's meaningful. And this can be a step in a positive direction. It just, it hits close to home with me. Not from a point of anger, but it hits close to home with me as somebody who suffers from acute clinical anxiety. And I needed a hospitalization and something that presented as a. What could have been a heart attack, it presented as a heart event and necessitated stress testing, an angiogram, everything came back pristine where it was determined that it was anxiety. But the brain is, is mysterious and powerful and medicine is inexact in some ways, particularly when it comes to where the brain and the body meet. And it takes a great deal of sensitivity and awareness and caring in this, in sports in general, especially at the highest levels where they are trying to feed their families by hitting 100 mile an hour fastball and curveballs, they are trying to do that. And the pressure is immense and public. And it's my hope that as much as you can focus on yay, Tim Anderson.

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[Main Commentator]

Retiring as a White Sox. Yay, home run in the cornfield. Listen to him, please listen to what he's saying. And if it's too late to help Tim Anderson, it's not too late to help other people. And maybe you're involved in high school sports, maybe you're involved in youth sports, maybe it's college, maybe whatever it is, whatever it is, the nature of sports can hide a lot of this, can mask a lot of this and create structures in which coming forward. He said, I couldn't come forward. I couldn't say anything. I couldn't show it because it isn't considered okay, it isn't considered tough. God, this. And I have to tell you the reason this also hits home really strongly for me of all. It so happens that tonight I Have the honor of moderating a panel for the Rebecca's Dream foundation. And you're welcome to join us. It's a webinar that we're doing. It's called More Than the Game, Mental Health in Sports. And I'm going to be joined by Brent Novoselski, the former NFL tight end Julie Kliegman, the author of the book Mind Game, where she has spoken with some of the greatest athletes on the planet, including Simone Biles, about mental health and its significance. And sports psychologist Andrew Rosenbloom is going to be a part of this as well. And we're doing this at 7 o' clock tonight. It's only an hour. If you go to Rebecca's dream.org you can find out all the information and you can come join us. But we're going to be talking and I'm going to be just kind of moving the ball around trying to make sure that we hear all the valuable stuff from these experts about how athletes can be heard, about how athletes can, can be better understood and most importantly, how we can break the stigma of saying, I can't, I couldn't tell anyone. When Tim Anders, I couldn't show it. I didn't have any guidance. I want to change that. I want to help change that. Rebecca's Dream wants to help change. That's why I'm so proud to work with this organization. And it just so happened that this story broke on the very same day that I've been preparing and, and working you for. You know, we've been working on this for weeks now and, and in meetings and trying to do this program. And it just touched a nerve. Right before I, I, I turned the light off and went to bed, I saw this story cross and saw him say, I didn't have any guidance. The White Sox could have gotten him a real manager. And I hope his words are what resonates here. I hope not just the White Sox, every team. Here's what he says. And can put a structure in place, can, can put a, a plan and a structure and a staff in place where mental health is treated equally to physical health. And it's going on everywhere. It's going on at the college level where coaches are allowed to run guys off. Do you know the ncaa, if you have to miss time for mental health, the NCAA gives the team a week, one week before it can, has to cut bait. If it's a sprained ankle and the coach can, can say, ah, it's going to be six to eight weeks high sprain, no issues, physical no issues. But if it's mental health, the NCAA gives you no quarter. And it's. It. It's unfair, it's unfortunate, it's wholly wrong, it's entirely wrong to actively try to not understand that mental health is as important and in some ways for elite athletes. It. It can override the physical. That's how powerful the brain is. Because the brain doesn't just manage your quick, twitch muscles and your ability to hit a baseball or your ability to move your legs fast enough to run with a football. It's so much more than that. And the brain is so much more powerful that there are aspects of chemistry and beyond that can override any of those talents and can affect those talents, can. Can erode those talents, can keep them from. From succeeding. So Tim Anderson's story just. Just kind of lit a fire. I'm. I'm livid about the fact that he said, I didn't have any guidance. And they decided rather than talk to players and rather than say, who. Who is a dynamic, young, plugged in manager, they had one. They have one all lined up in AJ Hinch, and it didn't happen. And it made me mad about it all over again. So here is to Tim Anderson. Tornado warning just came in. All right, well, great. I'm going to hope that the Prudential building will hold. Otherwise, we got a hell of a story, don't we? There is a. This is an endemic prop. All right, Take shelter now in a basement or an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building. Well, Prudential be sturdy. Great.

[Co-Host]

The.

[Main Commentator]

The words of Tim Anderson matter as much as, oh, yay, White Sox. And he retires the White Sox. And I remember the home run and the home run in the corn and. And the bat flip and the batting titles. That's not what's most important about this. It's not. It's. He's telling you he was crying for help. If he's not now, and it sounds like he's. He's just beginning to recover from what baseball did to him. I think the White Sox have an obligation to help him. That's the first thing. Not. Do you need a job? Do you want to be an ambassador? What can we do? And maybe they have. I hope they have. I hope I'm surprised. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised that someone will text me and say, hey, just so you know, this is what we've done. And we knew that this was going on and we tried to help him, and I don't know until I know that. That's true. I'm not going to presume it, because he doesn't seem okay. And you just have to know it's okay to not be okay. Just like it's okay to sprain your ankle. It's okay to get hit in the elbow by a pitch. It's okay to pull your oblique when you're swinging too hard and too much. Those things are all treated as, oh, we got to fix this. Got to take care of it. Got to fix this. Got to get better. I'd like the same effort to be devoted to trying a little harder and being a little more aware and a little more empathetic in understanding mental health and sports. And as I mentioned, that's why I'm proud to be involved in this webinar that we're doing tonight. And this is exactly the kind of thing that we're talking about.

[Dan Bernstein]

And

[Main Commentator]

I. I want that to be the takeaway from this. Do better, all of us. We can all do better.

[Dan Bernstein]

I don't want more.

[Main Commentator]

Tim Anderson's out there. I don't want. I don't want more. Star major league baseball players flame out early in their careers and then talk about how unhappy baseball made them, because that. That's what anxiety will do to you. That's. That's what something amiss in your mental health can do to you. And we have the resources. We have the awareness. We have the knowledge. We just need the. The support system, the permission structure. The permission structure to be able to talk about it and ask for help. It's immensely important. Now, if it makes you happy.

[Co-Host]

I've got.

[Main Commentator]

I've got pretty much nothing but fun stuff from here on in on this dbu. If, in fact, now the sirens are going off regarding a tornado is my guess. Maddie, do you know what I. I knew at Odyssey? They said, don't go anywhere. Go down with the ship. I. I don't know what the rules are in our. In our current employer. Do you?

[Co-Host]

I don't, but I. I think. I think you're good. Okay.

[Main Commentator]

Yeah.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. I mean, we didn't. We never left the studio for. No. A fire alarm. So I think.

[Main Commentator]

But those were. Those are fire drills.

[Dan Bernstein]

They weren't alarms.

[Co-Host]

Oh, we didn't know.

[Main Commentator]

I mean, yeah, we did. They said a fire drill was coming.

[Co-Host]

There was one time a fire alarm went off, and we just sat there.

[Dan Bernstein]

We did.

[Main Commentator]

Oh, there was a fire.

[Co-Host]

It might have been.

[Main Commentator]

Okay.

[Co-Host]

All right. No one cared. It's fine.

[Main Commentator]

Now, you mentioned when you talked about the famous one of one Cooper Flag card.

[Co-Host]

Uh huh.

[Main Commentator]

So. And you did a whole thing on it and you accused me of bernsteining something faster than anything had ever been bernstein. Yes, it's correct because you mentioned this incredible one of one numbered rookie debut patch autograph card. There's an. It's. There was an offer made by the Mavericks apparently that they offered a bounty and the Mavericks said that they would get a what? Two premium season tickets for 32 years, assigned game worn flag rookie jersey, a post game photo with them, a private photo shoot with the rookie of the year trophy and an expenses paid road trip with the team and says and more. My answer on that is no. Nope, nope, nope. The jersey that flag wore in the first half of his NBA debut from which the card's patch is made, the Jersey sold for $1 million. A similar card featuring Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher Paul Skeen's sold for for 1.1 million last year. There is speculation that this is worth at least that. Do not take the Mavericks up on their offer. Do not. I don't think that's bernsteining it. I think that's just being smart. But that might just be the way

[Co-Host]

I look at

[Main Commentator]

was members. The.

[Co-Host]

The.

[Main Commentator]

This was discovered by members of Roadie Breakers, a division of the Baseball Cards of Rhode island retail shop. They open boxes of trading cards on a live stream and they were on a live stream when they pulled the much sought after card. So that's kind of cool. I didn't know that that was a thing. I didn't know that like opening things a live stream was a.

[Co-Host]

Was. Oh dude, that's. That's the only thing. I mean there are YouTube channels and every card shop. If you go into a card shop, there's a room dedicated with cameras where people are ripping packs live. And it just, it happens all the time.

[Main Commentator]

It just so just like a vicarious thrill, just this idea just sort of watching and seeing and. Yeah, okay.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. I mean that's why there's tables and chairs set up at all these card shops because you buy a box and then you sit there in the card shop and you rip your packs. That's a thing.

[Main Commentator]

You rip your.

[Dan Bernstein]

Okay.

[Co-Host]

Oh, dude. I mean there's. When the boys have friends over and they're opening packs. I mean they all sit around, watch each other open packs.

[Main Commentator]

We used to walk to the. We used to. It's always been a thing. We used to walk to the convenient Food Mart on Waukegan Road next to Tony Subs and the Zingler cleaners in the gas station. We would Walk there. And we would buy. What we would buy, it usually was packs of baseball cards. And then the gum we wanted to chew. Not the gum from the baseball cards, which was inedible, but we'd get like a big thing of bub's daddy or, Or. And then you'd sit on the, on the curb, on the stoop, the concrete right out in front, like, like Bill and Ted at the Circle K. Like Beavis and Butthead outside their. Their, you know, favorite nacho establishment. And we'd rip packs and then you'd put the cards in your back pocket and get on with your day.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, then you'd rip six, and then. Yeah, get on with your day.

[Main Commentator]

Not yet.

[Co-Host]

No, we didn't. We didn't.

[Main Commentator]

We didn't start doing anything like that quite yet.

[Sponsor Voice]

But.

[Main Commentator]

Okay. Special rooms set aside. All right. I guess.

[Co-Host]

Cool. Yeah. You go on these card shops, websites, and then you can go right into their live stream and watch people open packs. Yeah, it's a. It's a huge thing.

[Main Commentator]

All right, well, don't sell it. I guess the big point here, I was right when they said it's going to go for more than 1.1 million and somebody's got it. And these guys, I don't know which of the. How do you. If they're doing it, who owns the card? Does the shop own the card? Did this. Does the podcast or whatever they're doing? They're.

[Guest or Additional Commentator]

You.

[Main Commentator]

They're.

[Co-Host]

Well, yeah, if they're channeling. Yeah, if it's. If it's. If the card shop is opening, then they own the card. Yeah. Then they'll. They'll, I would assume, get it. Get it graded and case it and put it on display to sell or try to auction it off or do something with it.

[Main Commentator]

So this is honest question.

[Co-Host]

Yeah.

[Main Commentator]

If you get a. If you got a $1.1 million card in a pack, what do you do? Because I would think in the immediate excitement, you could bend a corner. You could lower the value.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. Okay. Well, the second they pull. When the kids pull anything out of any kind of value, like, you know, Jackson pulled one the other day. That's. That's worth a lot of money. And they immediately put it into a case. It immediately gets. Gets packaged. So you're not going to bend it. Right.

[Main Commentator]

But I'm just like, even. There's got to be a way that you have to put it in the case. You know, they grade these things with a juice jeweler's loop to find one iota. That's wrong. Like, I wouldn't want to put a fingerprint on it.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, I mean, that's what they're, they're very careful when they're going through the, the packs in case they do get something that's, that's worth, worth of any, any kind of value. So they, yeah, they, they put it in a sleeve and a case immediately. There is no looking at it. There is no passing it around. There's no seeing it. Yeah. The card owner holds it, shows it, and then cases it right away. Okay.

[Main Commentator]

I'm just, I'm just making sure to know what the plan is and how you protect the asset immediately.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. And then, you know, you could, you can get it graded. I know that card shop or the card show, the memorabilia convention we were at at in Rosemont, they had on site grading. You can get it done and it's, you know, several hundred bucks to get it done immediately. Otherwise you're going to a card shop and you're sending it off somewhere. You're still paying, you know, over 100 bucks to get it graded. But it's out of your, your site now. Something like that, or anything of a great value. I wouldn't want to leave my site. I don't, I wouldn't trust anybody. So you get that either graded on site or you can sell that thing without being graded because you're going to know it's of a great value.

[Main Commentator]

Okay. I was just curious, but the Cooper flag card has been found. There are Rhode Island. You said in Rhode island there are no more golden tickets. That's all the boys the golden tickets have. So sorry, Charlie Bucket, you are. You're either out of golden tickets, the last one has been found. Unless we find that this one is a fake and that maybe there's just one more. One of the things I enjoy most

[Dan Bernstein]

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[Main Commentator]

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[Main Commentator]

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[Dan Bernstein]

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[Main Commentator]

Do you remember the name Christopher Peden? P E D E N. Oh, I do.

[Co-Host]

Because it sounds like penis.

[Main Commentator]

Yep. So you remember that our friend in Fort Wayne, Christopher Peden, in this. It was back in May, but the story broke later. He claimed he'd been stabbed in downtown Fort Wayne. He was walking around bleeding. He claimed he'd been stabbed. And around the same time, police in Fort Wayne investigated a garage fire. Okay. And they were connected because Christopher later admitted to police he started the fire himself after he cut off his dong with a kitchen knife, poured gasoline on it, and burned it inside the garage. So we're still waiting for Christopher Peden's next hearing that is set for August 31st. So you remember we talked about that here, and I think we called it story of the year. Right, because that's quite a thing. You know, you're wandering around. What happened? Well, nothing. Well, really? Well, I guess. Yeah. You know, you cut your dick off and you set it on fire in your mother's garage, and then everything burns down. All right, well, this just crossed from last week. I want to thank. See, this is what's wonderful about DBU listenership is I want to thank listener John, who sent this in. He said, I was showing somebody the story you did from Fort Wayne, and I wanted to find an update. And this was the story that came up. And this is what we're talking about at the moment. This is from Wane in Fort Wayne, Indiana. A man allegedly tried to set fire to his brother's car Saturday. Months after that sibling was the first to be charged with arson. Stay with me. James Peden, 42, faces one Level 4 felony count of arson. According to Allen Superior Court documents filed Monday. His brother, 36 year old Christopher Peden, faces the same charge for a separate case in which he cut off his genitals and started a garage fire in May. So this is his brother. This past weekend, James Peden was accused of burning a car that belonged to his brother but had been parked for the last month where James was staying with his ex girlfriend. The woman told police he'd already damaged the car severely enough to prevent the driver's door from staying shut. The woman also said James had become increasingly angry and agitated beginning months prior and just before the fire. Asked her for cigarettes. Peten would end up telling police at the scene a cigarette fell and started the fire. In a follow up interview, he claimed he'd unintentionally spilled a gallon of gasoline that had been sitting in the car. So they kept talking, you know, I might have spilled a gallon of gas in the car. Additionally, the defendant emphasized that he would never do anything to harm his brother or his brother's belongings, Police recounted in court documents. But investigators found a lighter in the car as well as, quote, the remains of two paper books saturated in an unknown liquid, end quote. According to court documents, the fire totaled the car and caused damage to another nearby. Now, here's where I think they might have him. A roommate at the home. So this is a third person unidentified, other than just a roommate at the home. The roommate, a roommate at the home told police Peden, I assume this is James, had asked him the day prior if he wanted to watch him set the car on fire. So he, he threatened to do it. He was going to put on a show of doing it, wanted an audience to do it. When the roommate asked where he would do that, Peden allegedly replied, wherever the fuck I want to, according to court document. Okay, so I'd say, which is it? That if you're the same guy who said that he was going to set this car on fire and wanted people to watch it. Now, despite the fact that you say there was, you asked for cigarettes. There was, there were, were. There's accelerant soaked paper in the car. And then you cop to accidentally spilling a gallon of gasoline. I think, I think the Peden family has some issues. And all I could think of is Christmas. They must be a hoot at Christmas when all. When the whole family gets together, that, that, that's got to be a thing. He said this, this sounds like some, some of that he wanted to set

[Dan Bernstein]

the car on fire.

[Main Commentator]

Said he was gonna set the car on fire. And set the car on fire. At least he didn't cut his dick off. He's the older brother. He at least knew not to do that. So that's just an update for you from the wild and wacky world of Fort Wayne, Indiana.

[Co-Host]

I got some reaction from my boys about the Cooper flag card because they, they saw on Tick Tock, they saw the video of when the card was pulled. Okay. And apparently the consensus is the reaction was very underwhelming. They're very disappointed. Actually referred to the Reaction as horrible that they weren't excited enough. Really? Yeah.

[Main Commentator]

I'm. I don't know what the expectations are.

[Co-Host]

Okay, well, I would think if you, if you pulled a million dollar card, how do you think you react if you were like, if, if collecting cards was a significant hobby in your life and you knew this card was out there and you knew it was to be looked for and you found it,

[Main Commentator]

you had it in your hand. Hey, man, I, I had. All I know is. All I know is in 78, you

[Co-Host]

found a million dollar card.

[Main Commentator]

I found what? It was priceless to me.

[Co-Host]

Oh, okay. But let's fast forward to this example. And you're pulling this card and this is a significant thing for you. You have a card shop and you pull a million dollar card and you know it and you have it in your hand. You have your latex gloves on. You have this card in your hand. Do, Would you react? Do you think? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. These guys didn't really react.

[Main Commentator]

So actually here the card is 77.

[Co-Host]

Okay.

[Main Commentator]

The night. The 1977 Walter Payton card is. I remember talking to Mike Florio about this when we were Talking about the 77 cards that all had the thousand yarder on there and I was collecting all the thousand yarders, but I, but I couldn't get Walter Payton. And in the same pack, I got all excited because I pulled an Allen Ellis, who was the Bears starting cornerback, and I had like six interceptions the previous year. I'm like, wow, Alan Ellis. Three cards later, the Peyton card hit. I remember where I was standing in the house. I remember exactly. I was in the. For some reason, I was in the living room, which we never were kind of like supposed to be in. And I took off running like the top speed, running, running, running, running around the house. And I stubbed my toe on a doorway and we had to go get my toe X rayed. It wasn't broken, but it swelled up and it was purple and it was so bad that it had. We had to go rule out that I had broken my toe celebrating pulling a Walter Payton card in 77. So. Yes, I know the feeling.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. So apparently that Walter Payton card, the thousand yard rusher, if you get, if it was graded out at a PSA 10, it's like 30 grand.

[Main Commentator]

It's not. It's graded out at. I put a thumbtack through it and put it on my wall. Yeah.

[Co-Host]

So that's that card. So apparently the reaction of finding the card was very disappointing. It was a letdown.

[Main Commentator]

Okay, this is now an internal Alarm going off.

[Co-Host]

Oh, it's in the building there. Yeah.

[Main Commentator]

I think you're fine.

[Co-Host]

Are you?

[Main Commentator]

It's the Prudential building. They call it the Rock.

[Dan Bernstein]

Right?

[Main Commentator]

Isn't Prudential the Rock? Get a piece of the Rock.

[Co-Host]

Uh oh, maybe it's the comedy police. Maybe they finally caught up with you.

[Main Commentator]

Oh, no, see,

[Co-Host]

it's over.

[Main Commentator]

You think that's it?

[Co-Host]

Yeah, I think you're good.

[Main Commentator]

Or maybe. Maybe we've gone to the great beyond and we just don't know it yet and it's like a Twilight zone.

[Co-Host]

Well, here, let's do this. Let's do your last thing here. I'm curious to hear this. I'm excited to hear your thoughts.

[Main Commentator]

All right.

[Co-Host]

And then, then you can get yourself to safety if needed.

[Main Commentator]

Okay. I should be okay up here.

[Co-Host]

I think you're fine.

[Main Commentator]

On the 27th floor, things still blinking?

[Co-Host]

I'm in the basement, so I'm good. Is that like a hand crank alarm, too? Is there, Is there a clown with a wig on?

[Dan Bernstein]

Well, there is.

[Co-Host]

It was just.

[Main Commentator]

He just happened to be here. It's just coincidence. I. I'm sorry if I'm distracted, but.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, it's okay. Stuff happens.

[Main Commentator]

But is there actually a tornado coming here?

[Co-Host]

I. I don't.

[Sponsor Voice]

I don't know.

[Co-Host]

There's no tornadoes here. I know that.

[Main Commentator]

All right, well, now. Okay, let me look at the map here. Oh, shit. Okay, well, all right, well.

[Co-Host]

Oh, yeah, there's a tornado warning in Cook County.

[Main Commentator]

Oh, no. I know there's a tornado warning.

[Co-Host]

Yes. Yeah, but it looks like it's nowhere near you, though. Okay, this is Broadview, Maywood. Yeah, you're fine.

[Main Commentator]

Okay, Just don't hit that guy's church's chicken.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, it's not. Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Main Commentator]

Right.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. It still has to get through Forest park and Oak park and. Oh, yeah, Garfield Park. It's got.

[Dan Bernstein]

Don't hit the.

[Co-Host]

It's got to get past the United Center Stage.

[Main Commentator]

We are advising everyone. Shelter in place. Shelter in place. And stay away from all windows. Yeah, you're good. Okay.

[Co-Host]

It's far away from you. You're fine.

[Main Commentator]

All right. He wants my attention, please.

[Co-Host]

Well, tell him you're busy. Can't have his attention.

[Main Commentator]

I'm doing something here, sir.

[Co-Host]

Yes.

[Main Commentator]

Maybe it's God.

[Co-Host]

I don't know.

[Main Commentator]

Okay, I got it. We're good. All right, all right, enough now. So. So the other day, Matty came in and he gave me a bag of potato chips. And you think, great, thank you. It was nice.

[Co-Host]

We like potato Chips. Let's make sure.

[Main Commentator]

I love potato chips. Yeah, we love potato chips. I love potato chips and I've always seen them. And I walk right by them. Because you know that Jose Andres, the famous Spanish chef and philanthropist, has a line of products now that are being carried by Mariano stores and I'm sure elsewhere. Lots of products, Lots of products. And I tend to sort of walk by them and they're interesting, but they look like luxurious items. And I have seen the $7 bag of potato chips. It's 6.7 ounces for $7. And Matty brought me a bag of them. End of last week, middle of last week, brought me a bag of potato chips. So I wanted to wait for just the right time. And I brought them home and I tried them. Everybody in the family tried them. I took mental notes on what everybody was saying. I tried them again and they were eventually eaten. Jason liked them more than anybody else and he ended up eating most of the bag. But what I have done here, because Matt is like, do you like him?

[Dan Bernstein]

Did you like him? Do you like him?

[Main Commentator]

What you think, what you think, what you think? First of all, of course I'm, I'm thankful, I'm appreciative that you got me the bag of potato chips. But what I decided to do was prepare a football style scouting report based on my experience with these potato chips.

[Co-Host]

Okay.

[Main Commentator]

Because you wanted an answer and I was going to give you an answer that it deserves. So, Jose Andres potato chips. Here's the stats. 6.7 ounces from Spain. There are three ingredients. Extra virgin olive oil, potatoes and salt. Now here is the introductory paragraph that is used to describe these chips. This is from the official website of Jose Andres Foods. These chips have only three amazing ingredients. Potatoes, extra virgin olive oil and Himalayan pink salt. Chip master, Rafael Del Rosal. Now I want to stop there. We're calling people who make potato chips chip masters.

[Co-Host]

Well, he's a chip master. Yes.

[Main Commentator]

Like brew masters.

[Co-Host]

Yes.

[Main Commentator]

Chip master.

[Co-Host]

Really?

[Main Commentator]

Chip master. Sorry. I'll give you that one. Fine, Rafael. I don't want to mess with Raphael Rafi. The chipmaster uses only the finest Spanish agria potatoes, a custom blend. Extra virgin olive oil from ancient groves in the heart of Andalucia, milled next to the chip factory to ensure purity and freshness. And pink salt from the foothills of the Himalayas. Rich in minerals. The potatoes are slow fried, allowing slow fried. Take it easy. Allowing the goodness and healthy qualities of the extra virgin olive oil to meld with the chips. They are then sprinkled lightly with salt and packaged in an innovative bag designed to deliver the chip to you perfectly. As if just cooked. Delicious and perfectly suited for the way we eat today. I don't know how we eat today other than opening a bag of chips and pouring it in your mouth. A satisfyingly crunchy chip that's substantial enough to pair with ham, tinned seafoods or a good gin and tonic. Let's go for easy tapas at home. See and let the record show Jose Andres is also selling ham and tinned seafoods. Okay. Positives. Woohoo. Very crispy and full flavored flavor balance allows for the potato and high quality oil to be featured in the foreground. The crispness, crispness makes it stand out above more common, thicker, crunchier kettle style chips. They also look nice and the high quality packaging does seem designed to help them stay that way. Negatives under salted which is not only noticeable upon first bite but that it fails to counterbalance the amount of oil in the chip that results from slow frying rather than typical flash frying. The ease with which the thin chip disappears in the mouth can exacerbate both the taste and mouthfeel of the quantity of oil. In summary, a very high quality potato chip but probably not worth double the per ounce price. $1.04 an ounce to a bag of regular J's at 52 cents an ounce for this particular item. And that was Jose Andres potato chips. The 6.7 ounce bag.

[Co-Host]

But tell me it wasn't the prettiest chip you'd ever seen.

[Main Commentator]

Gorgeous.

[Co-Host]

I mean right? You open the bag and it's gorgeous. It's like a aura of gold. It's.

[Main Commentator]

It, the, the chips are beautiful.

[Co-Host]

Yes.

[Main Commentator]

And I would think if, if you were having people over and you're. And you're spending on good water crackers and you've got a cheese budget then absolutely. These are special occasion chips. I would say.

[Dan Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Main Commentator]

And. But it's. They're not for eating a bag of them. There's too much oil in the chips. And you. This, this isn't just for. For a football game. This is for a charcuterie board or it's for something special. I also if you do make like a tuna casserole and you use crushed up potato chips over the top and the Pyrex when you bake the tuna casserole, these are way too oily for that. You wouldn't want to use that because then it's, it's going to change your ratios. But obviously high quality chip. But I'm, I'M probably only going to eat them again if somebody else buys them for me.

[Co-Host]

Jason liked them.

[Main Commentator]

He did. He appreciated them. He liked them and he ate them in his bedroom.

[Co-Host]

What did the. What the girls of the house.

[Main Commentator]

Beth is. She said a minimum of double the salt is what she would need. She said minimum, double the salt. And Zoe just said it's a potato chip. It's fine. Oh, that's. Hey, cuts right to it. That's, that's, that's the scouting report. I. Full, full disclosure, full transparency.

[Co-Host]

All right, that's fine.

[Main Commentator]

All right. No, it doesn't, it doesn't reflect anything about you, Maddie.

[Co-Host]

Did, did anyone comment on how it looked? Because I think that's the most impressive thing. I've never seen a potato chip look as beautiful as a Jose Andres.

[Main Commentator]

Hold on a second. I just got a text from our boss.

[Co-Host]

What did he say?

[Main Commentator]

Making sure you're aware that the building and most of downtown has a shelter in place. And stay away from windows. Alert winds could be 80 to 100 miles an hour.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. Stay inside. You're fine.

[Main Commentator]

Okay. Hold on.

[Co-Host]

I wouldn't go outside.

[Main Commentator]

I'm just going to say. Got it.

[Co-Host]

Are you gonna fish today?

[Main Commentator]

Maybe you should go fish. No, actually, I can't. No, I, I, I can't. I, I've got more prep I got to do.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, you should go fish right now, though.

[Main Commentator]

Event tonight.

[Co-Host]

Get out there and fish.

[Main Commentator]

It's probably a great time to fish because the, the, the barometric pressure is probably like, like negative 12 or whatever it is jumping out of the water. Yeah, it's usually catch with your bare hand. I have fished through a tornado before.

[Co-Host]

You should try today.

[Main Commentator]

I did it in Canada where the, and the, the tornado. We were on the water and the tornado actually was cracking trees on shore where we were was coming out, trees were going in either direction. The tornado came through the trees, hit the water, turned into a water spout, started sucking up water and went right by us. And two minutes later, bright sunshine. It came out of one microburst cloud, like the very, very front of one nasty, like, dreadnought of a cloud created the tornado, blew through, gone, but did fish through one. So there is precedent for that. Congratulations. Thank you. It's much appreciated. Thanks again for the chips.

[Co-Host]

Sure.

[Main Commentator]

Because I'm glad I tried them. I can say now that I've tried Jose Andres chips.

[Co-Host]

Yeah. And if you ever have a, you know, a nice dinner party and you need some potato chips, that's your go to.

[Main Commentator]

Yes, I would agree that they're they're for fancy people. I'm probably not fancy enough to have them as, as an everyday chip.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, you do like a black tie event with chips. That's your bag, right?

[Main Commentator]

If you're throwing a potato chip party, a formal potato chip party or like an eyes Wide shut potato chip sex party.

[Co-Host]

There you go.

[Main Commentator]

You know, I think. Has anybody ever done that?

[Dan Bernstein]

We should do that.

[Main Commentator]

We should do that on the 25th.

[Co-Host]

Maybe a two year anniversary party.

[Main Commentator]

Two year anniversary wild sex and potato chips orgy.

[Co-Host]

Yes.

[Main Commentator]

Okay. We'll take that under advice. We'll see if anybody wants to sponsor it.

[Co-Host]

Well, we get that. That one place to do the off the Ivy.

[Main Commentator]

Exactly. We're back to our off the Ivy sponsor.

[Co-Host]

Yes. We need them involved.

[Main Commentator]

Then, then we can have our season winner of the Strap it On competition. Have us have a special moment at the sex party.

[Co-Host]

Yeah, I like sex party.

[Dan Bernstein]

I like this.

[Main Commentator]

I. I see. This is. This is how a plan comes together. And this has been DBU. Dan Bernstein Unfiltered on 31 2, sports.

[Dan Bernstein]

Dan Bernstein Unfiltered Unfiltered on 31 2, sports. Thanks for listening to today's episode brought to you by my bookie. When she said I don't dance now,

[Main Commentator]

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[Dan Bernstein]

That was a mission statement for a whole new generation.

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