What Ben Johnson Didn’t Say Revealed Everything About the Chicago Bears

Summary

Dan Bernstein Unfiltered

Episode: What Ben Johnson Didn’t Say Revealed Everything About the Chicago Bears

Date: July 29, 2026
Host: Dan Bernstein | Producer/Co-host: Matt Abbatacola

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dan Bernstein delves into the seismic shift in Chicago Bears culture under head coach Ben Johnson. He explores what Johnson didn't explicitly say during his recent press conference—and argues that his silence is revealing in itself: for the first time in decades, the Bears’ greatest asset might actually be their head coach. The show expands into a discussion of leadership confidence, the uselessness of “celebrity insider” sports reporting, and even dips into Chicago baseball culture, before closing out with a fun segment on Colonel Sanders memorabilia. Expect trademark Bernstein candor, nostalgic sports references, and layered sports commentary throughout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Bears’ New Identity: It’s About the Coach

• [01:06] Dan recounts Ben Johnson’s press conference, highlighting Johnson’s careful language about team optimism and continuity. Dan argues Johnson’s real advantage is not just “scheme” or “players”—it’s himself.
• [02:30] Johnson emphasizes coaching continuity and the expectation of a “new layer of sophistication”:
  • “Fortunately here we were able to have a lot of the same faces come back on the coaching staff...I really expect another layer of sophistication to occur within this building and within our players.” — Ben Johnson, as quoted by Dan ([03:20])
• [04:30] The hosts discuss how “the real reason for optimism” is Johnson’s presence and skill, noting that in Chicago, that’s a foreign but welcome feeling.

2. Missing Swagger: What Ben Johnson Didn’t Say

• [05:30] Dan contrasts Johnson’s humble approach to Will Stein (Kentucky head coach) who openly declared, “I think because of me, to be honest,” when asked why his team would win.
  • “That is exactly what a lot of coaches won't say because of how you say it....But damn it, we all think that about Ben Johnson.” — Dan ([07:05])
• [09:00] They discuss the dangers (and power) of coach confidence—referencing historic quotes and infamous egos like Charlie Weis’s “decided schematic advantage.”
• [13:20] Matt presses: “When Ben Johnson says something like, 'we're going to be better this year,' is he not finishing that with, 'We're going to be better this year because I'm the head coach here?'”
  • “Because I'm really good at this. That’s...the sense I get, and I love it.” — Dan ([13:31])

3. Why It Feels Strange for Chicago Fans

• [11:09] Matt draws cross-team comparisons:
  • “I haven’t felt that way about the Bulls since Thibodeau...with the Cubs it was Joe Maddon...with the Sox, Ozzy Guillen.”
  • They note this is a rare moment in Chicago sports—a coach as a real, tangible asset.
• [14:00] Dan jokes how a coach’s self-belief isn’t just swagger—it’s the “font of energy” a downtrodden franchise needs.

4. Modern Sports Insiders: Are They Useful?

• [25:51] Bernstein pivots to an essay from Craig Calcaterra ("Cup of Coffee" newsletter) slamming sports “insiders” (Schefter, Woj, Shams, et al.)
  • “The insider game is a scam...they don’t do investigative stuff...when they have real news, they hold it back. What a damn joke.” — Reading from Calcaterra ([25:58])
• [28:45] Dan argues the sports insider role is performative and PR-driven, increasingly unnecessary and replaceable by AI.

5. Chicago Baseball: The “Tarps Off” Phenomenon

• [41:09] Lighter segment: Discussion about the rise of shirtless, chanting “Tarps Off” fan groups at White Sox games:
  • “Show tunes bring people together. We all love—if you don’t love show tunes, you’re telling on yourself.” — Dan ([41:52])
• [45:05] Matt’s highlight: Pete Crow-Armstrong HR into the “Tarps Off” section, chanting “overrated”—a quintessential, unfiltered sports moment.

6. Quirky Closing: The Colonel Sanders Auction

• [52:24] Segment shifts to the public auction of Colonel Sanders’ personal memorabilia (clothes, pressure cooker, etc.).
  • Discussions include the $8,000 bow tie, $30,000 planner possibly containing the secret KFC recipe, and Dan revealing he’s an “official Kentucky Colonel” ([59:50]).
• [56:46] Dan calls out KFC’s “misdirection” about the discovered recipe, suspecting the memo actually is the secret formula.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We all feel it and that's what was getting talked around yesterday...what really matters here is we have reason to believe the Bears are going to be good in large part because of this level of trust in the guy they hired.” — Dan ([07:50])
• “The belief in the head coach is new and different...what Ben Johnson could have simply said was, 'here’s your reason for optimism: Next question. We’re going to be good because I’m coaching the team.'" — Dan ([24:00])
• On shirtless White Sox fans:
  • “Stay for the show tunes. Run from Lee Greenwood. That is a watchword for human existence.” — Dan ([41:39])
• On the “Insider” role:
  • “Journalism is reporting what people don’t want reported. All else is public relations.” — Dan quoting the "Orwellian razor" ([29:20])

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Important Timestamps

• [01:06] — Opening: Ben Johnson’s press conference and the real meaning behind his answers
• [05:30] — What Ben Johnson isn’t saying compared to Will Stein’s bluntness
• [11:09] — Matt: Which Chicago coaches have felt like a real advantage before?
• [13:20] — Dan: “We’re going to be better this year because I’m really good at this”
• [25:51] — The “Inside Game” is a scam—Craig Calcaterra’s critique and Dan's take on sports “insiders”
• [41:09] — “Tarps Off” culture at White Sox games, chants and Chicago baseball lore
• [52:24] — Colonel Sanders’ auction: memorabilia, secret recipes, and fun banter
• [56:46] — KFC's misdirection on “secret recipe” in auctioned planner

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Episode Tone & Takeaway

Bernstein is as unfiltered and sharp as ever, mixing sardonic humor with classic Chicago sports skepticism—but also, genuine excitement. There’s a rare, palpable optimism for the Bears—rooted not in hype, but in the honest evaluation of a head coach who inspires trust and confidence. Matt and Dan riff effortlessly from sports philosophy to pop culture and memorabilia, keeping things lively and unpredictable.

For Chicago sports fans, this episode is quintessential listening—explaining why it’s finally okay (maybe even smart) to believe in the Bears’ coach, and poking fun at everything from sports media to shirtless White Sox supporters.

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Transcript

[A]

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So you shouldn't either. So call Ross Armstrong. It was fascinating to hear what Ben Johnson couldn't say yesterday. I mean, he could is the point. And I'm going to show you somebody who did say what Ben Johnson could have said yesterday. But I find it fascinating that we're all talking around something as we start this Bears story season. We all feel it, we all think it. And I know Ben Johnson thinks it, too. I know he does because he's a competitive psychopath like. Like so many coaches are. It's just that the Bears finally have one of them, and getting used to that is strange. Getting used to that level of trust. It's a word I'm going to use a lot when we talk about the Bears this year. Getting used to that level of trust is foreign to us as Bears fans and observers because we don't really have reason to trust coaches, players, personnel, guys, general managers. We certainly have no reason to trust ownership or the people directly below them who try to act as their proxies, who are wearing big, giant clown shoes that they're tripping on and falling face first into a swamp. But that's not important, Russell, right now. What's important is the football side of things. And we know last year was kind of charmed. You relied on your burgeoning quarterback superpowers to pull you out of some situations. You relied on the unsustainable good fortune of turnovers. And yet to some degree you can concentrate on it or make or prioritize it. But it's hard to make the ball bounce the way you want to make it bounce. So there's a good chance the Bears record won't be as good, even if the Bears are better and all that. But I'm not. I'm not really talking about our predictions for the year. It comes down to the way questions were asked and the way they were answered yesterday and what it means for this to be an entirely new year and how Ben Johnson talked about what advantages they might have. Why do the Bears have advantages even though this year will be different? So I think Johnson talked around a lot of the truth that we know, that you know, that he knows. But it feels weird to say when he says this is a chance to forge our identity. A lot of coaches come up and say we're going to be this and we're going to be that. And yet this is where it all happens. We got a whole different group of guys. This is where it gets fun. And they're talking about continuity, building identity. This, to me, is the key quote that gets as close as it could be to the truth. Yesterday, Ben Johnson says, fortunately here we were able to have a lot of the same faces come back on the coaching staff. This is specifically the coaching staff. He's not talking about players. Fortunately here we were able to have a lot of the same faces come back with that. I really expect another layer of sophistication to occur within this building and within our players. This was asked about when answering reasons for optimism. What's the buy in? Why should Bears fans be excited about this year when so much of the NFL is a dice roll for the next year? Here's more from Johnson. There were things a year ago that were trying to speak the same language. Now we're past that and everyone's kind of reading each other's thoughts. The elementary is a thing of the past. We can level things up as a coaching staff as well. It's a really exciting time to be here. If you get a little bit of Matt Nege 201, 301 graduate level stuff that he was talking about here, that's okay. It's okay. Work through it. I got a little bit of that, too. But it's all right that that has nothing to do with Ben Johnson. And he said he believes that Caleb Williams will no longer be bogged down by the cadence, motions and all the things that happened before the snap where Williams can make the most growth in his second season within Johnson's offenses after the snap. Coverage, recognition, anticipation. And he says, you talk about sustaining success as a Johnson, well, shoot, we're starting all over again. That's been the consistent message. So what is he not saying? And what it is is something that was said by another coach. And it's, we're just not used to this in Chicago, but we're all thinking it and we can say it. It's okay. Did you see what happened last week in Tampa at SEC media days? And I loved this. And this was new Kentucky coach Will Stein. I don't know anything about Will Stein, but he's a. He's the first year head coach at Kentucky. He was offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Oregon. Right. So he was asked why he thought he could win at Kentucky. This is the answer when he said, quote, I think because of me, to be honest. Coach was asked, why do you think you can win here? Because of me. Now, I don't know if Will Stein's right or wrong, but that is exact what a lot of coaches won't say because of how you say it. There were some, you know, famously, there were some egotistical, vainglorious coaches that were hoist on this petard. When Charlie Weiss, you'll remember when he took over at Notre Dame, do you remember what he said? You can check me on this, but I believe he said, we will have a decided schematic advantage over our opponents. And because most people hate Charlie Weiss, or at the time hated Charlie Weiss, the reaction was, oh, really? And all the other coaches who've been doing this all their lives said, oh, here comes Charlie Weiss. Here he comes. And now, oh, so they're gonna have a decided schematic advantage because he's there. I remember that. And those words dogged him every time they lost. How's your decided schematic advantage or distinct schematic advantage? But it was. You can, you can look it up and find exactly what that quote was. But I never mind a football coach saying, yeah, I won this job. I interviewed for the job, I got the job, and I'm here to win. And I'm the reason we're going to win. I think because of me, to be honest. Well, damn it, we all think that about Ben Johnson. That's the answer. It's not continuity in the assistance. It isn't necessarily this player or that player. Of course it's about players. But how long has it been? How long has it really been? Even in 2015? In 2016. When, when we're like, okay, Bears are good now. Khalil Mack is doing these things. Ooh, this, you know, Mitch Trubisky made the Pro bowl. And, but did anybody start the season and say, and feel, and really feel it that the Bears were going to be good because of Matt Nagy, that the Bears are going to be good because he was their head coach? This is the first time in, in memory that I think it is reasonable that you can think the Bears are okay. The Bears are in good shape. The Bears can, can start a game better prepared to execute than their opponents on an average basis because Ben Johnson is their head coach. I think we all feel it and that's what was getting talked around yesterday. And they can say, well, continuity or the players are back and they know the language and now they're comfortable and all this. But that's, but, but what really matters here is we have reason to believe the Bears are going to be good in large part because of this level of trust in the guy they hired. And it's not the gimmicks, it's not him with, with his shirt off. We'll get to that later. It's, it's not that it isn't good, better, best. It's the work. It's the day to day work. It's the tone that's set. I, and also I love the fact that the Bears are traveling for these practices, these, these practices against another opponent, that they have to stay in hotels. That's good. It kind of gives you a, a little training camp vibe, a real training camp vibe instead of sleeping in your own bed. This idea, I, I kind of, I, I believe in a little bit of that. The idea of going away to come together, of bunkering, bunking down together. I do think that I, I think some of that stuff matters.

[B]

Yeah, I think, I think all Bears fans would agree and feel the same way that you feel like you're going to win because Ben Johnson is there and just jotting down. I mean, I, I haven't felt that way about a Bulls team since Tom Thibodeau was there. Like, I felt they would win because of that coach. With Joe Madden, I thought the Cubs would win because Joe Madden was there. I felt that with Joe Madden. And the last time I felt that with the White Sox was Ozzy Guillen. Like, I, I felt like you were going to win games because Isaac was the manager.

[A]

Which is different than saying people buy tickets to watch somebody coach or watch somebody manage. It's different than the marketing of it. But, yeah, I think anybody can do that. If you've done that, go ahead and do that yourself. Write down Chicago's teams and tell me the last time that you felt that the, the coach was an actual tangible asset that made you more likely to win.

[B]

Right. An asset and an advantage. And that quote, by the way, from Charlie Weiss, every game he's telling his players, every game you will have a decided schematic advantage.

[A]

So I did a decided schematic advantage. Y. What year was that?

[B]

2005.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, I knew that. That always, that always stuck with me because I thought that was bullshit when I heard it. And I, and I knew was going to piss people off, too, because it reminded me that, like, the response to that was what. What Hawk Harrelson used to say about Billy Bean and all the Billy Bean adoration. Well, we'll see what kind of guru he is when he doesn't have Hudson. And, and, and who was the third? Zito.

[B]

Zito.

[A]

Yeah, we know Hudson, Mulder and Zito on his dad. We'll see what kind of guru he is. And I was thinking, like, you can say this to Charlie Weiss. It's like, okay, when you get outside of Bill Belichick and, and everything that's going on there, we'll see what kind of decided schematic advantage you've got, tubby. And that was the response, almost I. To the word. At least with some of the coaches I was around, that was, that was what they were. What they were saying.

[B]

So when, when Ben Johnson says something like, we're going to be better this year, is he not finishing that with, we're going to be better this year? Because I'm the head coach here, right?

[A]

Because I'm really good at this. That's. But that's, that's the sense I get, and I love it. That's what should be. That's exactly how it should be. You know, that's what George Hallis felt. You know, George Hallis felt that way. I invented this goddamn game and get the hell out of my way and where's my whiskey? And like the. That's how these coaches felt when Amos Alonzo Stag used to send his playbook to his upcoming opponent. Here's what I'm running. Stop it. Get you here. This is, this is what's, this is what's coming at you Sunday.

[B]

Here.

[A]

Here. Get a load of Saturday. Get a load of this. Like, that's, that's the, that's coaching for all the. We put up with, with all these Sociopaths like the Andy Reid stuff yesterday. And, and, but the, the good side of that is everything we love about sports, everything we love about sports is a, a coach with swagger. And you don't have to be a dick. You know, if, because if Ben Johnson and I, I'm, this is what I'm, I'm interpreting this, that. To answer your question, Matt, yes, we're going to be better this year or we're communicating better. We've got continuity. That isn't about Jim Dre and Dan Roshar. It isn't about being able to replace Declan Doyle with Press Taylor. It's not because Eric Stoodsville replaced Eric B. It's because of one guy that's Ben Johnson saying we're. And you know what I think too, he's going to be better. He was a rookie head coach last year, he's going to be better now. Somebody should be saying and a skeptic should be saying, yeah, he's never been a second year coach before. Second year coach, tough man. First year is a honeymoon that was all fun and games. I, that's what Matt Leure is saying right now. Matt Leur is sitting around, they're sitting in his office saying, listen, that guy, this guy, I can't wait to knock that smirk off his face. He thinks this is easy. He's never, he's never been a second year coach before. Wait till the NFL hits him over the head. Wait till he runs into the, this freight train. That's what they're thinking and that's great. This is, it's been a long time as a Bear fan that you have been in the position of really being behind your coach and maybe it won't last. Maybe, maybe it's misplaced trust. I don't know. I'm not promising anything. I just know you gotta stop and appreciate the fact that all of this optimism, what he's done with Caleb Williams, the foundation that he built some and his influence over personnel, what his, the way that the entire personnel department that all of that, everything on this team has lined up magnetically like iron filings toward him. And he's telling you he's going to deliver on that. But he, he can't say what Will Stein said, I think because of me, to be honest. And people went oh, oh my goodness. The reaction to that, a coach saying that. And there was more that Stein said, I know what it takes. I've seen it at the highest levels. I know what it takes to recruit at this level. You got to believe I know the players we can get here. I know we can recruit north, south and east. This place is incredible. The one thing I refuse to do at Kentucky is wait. So when he, when he says this stuff, when a coach says that, that's exactly for what you ask is exactly the reason why you hire somebody. And remember Ben Johnson walking into Hallis hall and pumping his fist in that team video of everybody coming out to the little balcony there and applauding him and how much fun that was. He's down there with his family and that was all fun. And it would be real easy for that, that smile to have disappeared over last year.

[B]

But it didn't.

[A]

It got bigger and things got even better and even more exciting. And sure, he's got the quarterback and he has the quarterback on a rookie deal makes things a lot easier. But this isn't hard. This is not some secret that we everybody talked around it the entire day yesterday. Oh, reasons for optimism. What are the reasons for optimism? Reasons for optimism is that guy standing there and we can say it, we can point it out. I could say he can't,

[B]

but I

[A]

get it's a long way of saying how cool is that? How awesome is that? Welcome to DBU Picks presented by my bookie. We're breaking down the week's biggest matchups and the bets we're watching. I like the way he's seeing the ball lately. I'm going to go Nico Horner plus 152 for two or more hits. Not saying there'll be home runs, but I think Nico has May is maybe starting to emerge from his most of season doldrums.

[B]

Well, I hope that's right and I'm going to stay with the Cubs game as well. They're opening this four game series in St. Louis. Game one tonight I'm going to take the Cubs minus one and a half runs and then on a separate play I'm going to go Cubs first to score three runs. So Cubs first to three and then laying one and a half.

[A]

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[B]

Yes, he does.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Frank see, he knows. He listens. He doesn't miss much, and he'll speak up when he agrees with me, or he'll just get in the comments somewhere, or he'll get on social media and be angry at me because, you know, it's. Frank, the. The belief in the head coach is new and different. And I just thought yesterday. Well, the reasons for optimism to do here, and what Ben Johnson could have simply said was, here's your reason for optimism. Next question. We're going to be good because I'm coaching the team. I've got a year under my belt. I chose this staff well. We got continuity in the staff. Yeah. If you want to fire people, they're fired. And if you want to keep them, you keep them. Because you're the head coach and the people you went out and hired. Yeah. You found a running backs coach that happened to understand a certain kind of misdirection running play that you saw, and you went and grabbed that guy. So we're going to see a lot of that in some of these backfields. You bet, you bet you do. You end up with that third tight end with a rookie who can do some of the things that maybe Durham Smythe couldn't do so you can start to flesh out your game. You. You find that third wide receiver who you know exactly every step he takes because of the work that you did in Detroit. And maybe you don't really care that much about defense. And that is the other thing that this city is going to have to realize that. Bears defense. Bear defense. Defense. No, he's. It's just not as important to him as it is to the culture of this city. And I love the fact that maybe an entire generation of Bears. Bears fans can grow up in remembering. When I was a kid, The Bears scored 40 points a game. You don't hear that a lot. The Bears lost all games, but you knew you played them because Buckus. Did Buckus ever make the playoffs?

[B]

No.

[A]

No, he didn't. So get used to it and it's okay. But that's what he he could have said yesterday. He could have quoted Will Stein the entire reason for optimism is because of me. I'm here. I'm the head coach. Chill out. Everything's fine. No reason to panic yet. We're going to be good. I've got this. And you see nothing yet. Wait. Wait till you see what this offense

[B]

is going to do.

[A]

We don't need a defense. We're going to score 70 points a game. That's what I wanted to hear. And I know if he feels that when things max out, he's going to get pretty damn close to it. So I thought that was really cool. Craig Calcatera wrote something today that what's the Is it the Leo DiCaprio meme from once Upon a Time in Hollywood where he's drinking the beer and he's watching TV and he points at the TV like yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. That's how I felt when I read this paragraph today under the subhead on the cup of Coffee newsletter. Which, like I say, if you if you're into sports, culture, entertainment, politics, the cup of Coffee newsletter is essential. It's a great way to start your day. And if you like sharing someone else's insecurities and anxieties as much as I do. Craig's it says the insider game is a scam. Adam Schefter is paid millions by ESPN to break NFL News, except when he holds back NFL news for a couple of weeks because he's friends with the subjects of the news and doesn't want to upset them them. And the start of that sentence is a link to the Kyle Shanahan stuff. Calcatera writes, I do not understand the point of the whole insider business. The transactions news that they break are always covered by press released soon afterward. They don't do investigative stuff that upsets the leagues or teams. When they have real news that might do that, they hold it back. What a damn joke. I generally agree. We have created in every sport and it's this idea of one single celebrity insider slash newsbreaker. And it's a construct. It's an artificial construct that has become part of the modern sports media landscape where a person with a phone and a bunch of numbers is a conduit for teams to get the information out. The teams want out when they want it out. A conduit for agents to get news out when agents want it out. And maybe one could argue, well, they've just sort of unmasked everything because we know that. And the number of times that they've accidentally put agents names in there or, you know, the shifter tweets back to an agent saying, hey, is this okay? I want you to look at this before I tweet it. We know that that happens all the time where they've sort of outsourced the news coverage to the agents and the teams themselves. But this idea, the, the insider thing is just weird when we know that they won't report news. And I'm thinking this, this would be a job for an AI. There are a lot of things where a bot and an artificial intelligence could simply handle this. It simply automatically contacts people. You feed up the information, you say when you want it out. You don't need a person to necessarily do it because the person isn't going and gathering the news and isn't. This is. It's critical here. Remember, remember the Orwellian razor. Journalism is reporting what people don't want reported. All else is public relations. It's a PR job and we elevate these insiders to enormous celebrity status. We pay them incredible gobs of money. And we now know, especially in the case of Adrian Wojnarowski and Shams Charania, we saw how replaceable someone is right in front of our eyes. Adrian Wojnarowski was. Oh, Wojaban, Wojaban. He gets everything. He gets everything for. He gets everything. Two seconds for everything else. For everybody else. Okay, there it, there it was. The team's got. He got it and now everybody has it. Okay, so that has a value. And it was ruining his life. And he left the job because it's impossible to have the job because you have no life and they, they compensate you a great deal. So it's. It's a bad job to have. It's hard to do. It is easily replicated because he just handed his phone to Shams and Shams, like, okay, they don't really write anything. There's no investigative stuff like Craig pointed out. It's just a fascinating modern media construct because I haven't even mentioned Diana Rossini and about how twisted the job can get and how the entire model of the idea of insider can be perverted in, into something that doesn't just benefit the leagues, but can actively benefit individual teams in a way that is unfair, if not fraudulent. So I'm wondering what's. Just keep in the back of your head that at some point this is going to break because at some point these large media companies are going to realize that there's no reason to pay somebody this much money because they're constantly looking, who can we fire? Who makes enough money that we can fire them? They know that they got to pay whatever the content generators, the people that say crazy shit, they, they got to pay that. They got to pay people to show up and, and, and laugh at things and make stuff up. But I also think it's worth watching the future of the job of insider. What purpose does it serve and who gains other than the teams and the agents? Are our fans taken care of? They're not. When information's embargoed like this was a, this is a big blow when we know that your insider told you. Yeah, I didn't report that for 11 days. And I agreed with the team to not report a breaking story that was part of the public record and still didn't report it. That's a little frightening.

[B]

Who cares?

[A]

It's just sports. All he does is. Well, that's right. Well, if nobody cares and it's just sports and it's just transactions, then there shouldn't be a reason to turn this, these jobs into, into huge celebrity positions. So I liked what I read when, when Craig wrote that, because it's true. There's always the, the information comes out in a press release moments after stuff gets reported. There isn't really anything investigative that could possibly be viewed as dangerous or detrimental to the league or players or teams or agents. And then when there is news, you can't trust that it's being reported. So what is the model? What are we doing other than having a construct that has built something into celebrity? I don't know. I think it'll be interesting to look at the future and what it holds. Or you want to hire an insider who also is truly an investigator. But I think those are going to be like the Pablo Torres of the world who are. Have to be on the outside of the tent pissing in, rather the inside pissing out to use the old, you know, political saw. Who was it? Was that. Was that Lyndon Johnson? Sounds like it was Lyndon Johnson, but probably. Probably somebody else. So it. That, that made me think, thinking about where that, where that's going to head, where that's going to go. As teams are in the business of the leagues themselves, as usual, the canary in the coal mine now is espn. Now that they're in business with the NFL. Here's our, here's our big NFL Insider PR guy. Really, really, really, really well paid PR frontman under the guise of I'm working for you, I'm working for the reader, I'm working for the listener, I'm working for the viewer. No, that would be a reporter's job. So at least I guess I should say it's a, it's a victory. It's not called a reporter that it is called an insider that we've created this. 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Check out his 5 star reviews at ChicagoNow. Guys, When you watch a White Sox game and now you hear cheering. Now that when, when I went to the game on Friday, I realized almost everything you're hearing is coming from as far away in the park as possible. So it was a group of club baseball guys in St. Louis that started the tarps off thing, right? I have this, right, that, this idea of take your shirt off and. And yell stuff. It was a. A group of young white men and they take their shirts off and they yell things. And it was funny and it was clever, cute, funny, the whole thing. And Ali Marmole got in on and. And it's been. Now it's being copied, imitated around the league. There is now a group at White Sox games. I don't know if they have a name. I don't know it. But over the course of the game, more and more young shirtless white men were gathering in the top left corner, the little overhang area of rate field, in the inexpensive seats down the left field line up in the corner. And they were chanting things and they were yelling things and trying to get cheers started. But that's what you hear on the broadcast. That's. That's in. I'm going to add a corollary. I generally. Be careful with this. I've always said when you, when you hear a crowd chanting usa, usa, run in the opposite direction. I, I will always believe that 100%. That's always a bad sign. It's always something you want to get away from as quickly as possible. I need to amend that to also in general. And what this trend seems to be bucking is I would also say a group, a chanting group or yelling. A group of white men yelling run in the opposite direction. Because that's almost always bad too. In this case, it's not. It seems organic enough. It seems like there's just. That's just sort of where you go in the park. If you are a young, white, shirtless man, you're welcome there. You're welcomed in and you can have your backwards hat and you yell things and it can. It's so far so good. And it's. It's harmless. But hasn't. Hasn't Wrigley been doing that forever?

[B]

They have been, but they were generally overweight older white men. These are younger white men. And if that same group of younger white men are singing, I don't know, say, proud to be an American, do you still run?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, what if they're singing like double speed? Do you.

[A]

No, I'm down for show tunes.

[B]

Okay, so you stay for the show tunes.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Run for Lean Greenwood. Run.

[A]

Yes, I think.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Write that down and, and use a wood burner and make a plaque that says that. Stay for the show tunes Run from Lee Greenwood.

[B]

Done.

[A]

Yes, that. That. That is a watchword for. For human existence. Absolutely. Show tunes bring people together. We all love. If you don't Love show tunes. You're telling on yourself because there's a problem with you and I don't want to be around you, but I just want to say that this whole thing will like St. Louis and tarps off, but really that's just the bleachers. That's what you did. That's just, that's what you do.

[B]

You.

[A]

You spend your, your $3 on your general admission bleacher ticket and you go there and you take your shirt off and you play your. And you, you don't have a job and you scratch your armpits and have an old style and, and a smoky link.

[B]

It's easy in St. Louis when it's like 110 degrees to do that. Yeah, you can do that. That's not a problem.

[A]

Well, yeah, because they. There, it's all shirtless drivers there too. They all immediately go get in their car and they put their. Their St. Louis Blues hat and they light up a smoke and. And away they go. But. But I. The actual guy, because I. What. What warmed the cockles of my heart was the fact that the tarps off thing was started by a club baseball team. Some of my favorite memories in the world were club baseball. It's something that, that I told Jason when he was asking for advice. And we were sitting down and really talking and I was like, dad, do I want to pursue a D3 offer? Do I want to go to these showcases? Because I, you know, there's an end. And we talked everything through and I said, don't feel like you have to. Depends what you want out of college. And we talked about club baseball. And what I said was, there is nothing better in the world than club baseball because there's not a huge commitment. You are. You practice once or twice a week. You get to wear your college's uniform, you get to go play at other colleges. And yes, some of these other colleges are going to take it way more seriously and you are going to get your ass kicked. But if it's the right tone of the organization or if you're on the board of your. Of your college club and you can make sure it's fun and it's. It's just the best. And the fact that they were at a game and this. I forgot what school it was. Was it Robert Morris? Austin? I think was Austin P. Is that who was. It was one. It was one of those schools. And Ali Marmold, you know, they brought him back to the game. He gave them all tickets and he kept giving them tickets and they Kept enjoying and started a thing and now it's at the rate. Also I would. I just. These, these gatherings when they're not organic have. It can turn dark and, and very quickly angry or toxic. So I mean, you know what I mean.

[B]

The, the, the greatest thing though of this baseball season and I'm still going to hold on to it even though there's hundreds of games to go. The Pete Crow Armstrong home run into the tarps off while chanting overrated. Nothing will beat that this season.

[A]

It was great. I thought he was going to do it again too. I really did. I thought he was going to do it again because I don't know what he'd say if asked about it. Like, hey, do you notice those guys? Of course.

[B]

Of course he does. Yes, absolutely.

[A]

Of course he does. Yeah. He would be lying if he said he doesn't. We know he does. And he would understand how, how great it would be if he did that too. So I'm just, let me put it this way about the whole tarps off movement. You can call it that. I'm keeping an eye on it. Like it's, it's. I'm keeping an eye. It's okay now. Everything's fun, everything's clever. Like the initial genesis of this version of it, wholesome and fun and real and great. But it's, it's, it's running up against my worries about groups of young white men screaming because I don't like that. I generally think you want to stay away from that especially organized screaming. It, it turns bad real fast. So just be very careful in general. But for for now, all good. Everything seems to be fine. It's not breaking out. They're not holding tiki torches. You know, it's so far so good. I just, I, it is some, it is a particular kind of gathering. It's a type of gathering that I generally don't like because it's almost always bad. Well, where'd you go today? Well, I was with a group of, of young white men yelling things in organized fashion.

[B]

Young, like minded.

[A]

Yes, young like minded. But maybe the fact that people's shirts are off makes them a little more vulnerable. Maybe there's the idea of being naked to the world and that. Like, maybe, maybe it's when you take your shirt off, you're going to be sillier that it would be hard. Like if you pictured, if you picture the, a more nefarious or sinister group of young white men chanting things. Yeah.

[B]

You're thinking robes and hoods, right?

[A]

Well, or you know, Punisher logos or you know what I'm talking about. Like, but the costume at that point matters. Usually mask and tactical things and black plastic and that stuff, you know, flaps and epaulettes and extra pockets and, you know, so I think, I think stripping off the costume prevents you from being as sinister as you would otherwise be. If you are a group of young white men yelling things.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I think you could have a group of young white men with their shirts off and that could be part of the costume.

[A]

It. I guess, yeah, maybe, but it just. And I, I'm very curious about the dynamics of how it works at. When it, when it's at like Rate Field, when everybody. So do like three guys go to take the train and go to the game, go, hey, yeah, like around the fourth inning, we're gonna take our shirts off and, and go up there to the, to the guys. We're gonna hang out with the guys with our shirts off. And it was like, hey, here's more. Shirtless guys. Come on, shirtless guys. Is somebody in charge of it? Do they, is there a self elected board of some kind that is de facto. I'm not saying they have parliamentary procedure. What I'm saying is like, does like Big Steve get to decide in or

[B]

out or could be the guy with the sparkly bow tie on. Maybe he's the guy in charge.

[A]

Yeah, no, but is there a pecking order? Is it like a wolf pack? Is there an actual alpha shirtless guy? Oh, you haven't passed the shirtless guy test. You can't, you gotta stand over there. Is there, is there some sort of Lord of the flies type organization going on? I need information. If you are the head of the, of the shirtless people, do they have a name? I need to know more.

[B]

I.

[A]

Because maybe someone's gonna, hey, my name is Steve.

[B]

I.

[A]

During the day I am a intellectual property attorney, but when the game begins, I remove my shirt and we invite everybody 21 and under to come on up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Join us.

[B]

Board members could have on like a bedazzled vest maybe to start the meeting, you know. All right, those guys are in charge, right? Yeah. And then when they all gather to their seats, they take the vests off and the bow ties and they do

[A]

their thing, whatever, whatever it might be. Do you have your, do you have a, do you have your hat on? A certain way to say you're in charge? You wait, you can't join us until. Oh, you're a, you're a second inning guy. Well, you can't join us until the 8th. Or is it everyone's welcome. All can come. Like a. It's like a block party every night where if you are young and white and you want to take off your shirt, you're. You can come join us.

[B]

Yeah. I think it's an inclusive group, I think would allow anyone to join.

[A]

Good. I hope it is. And. And the other thing is be creative with your cheering. Be funny. That's all I ask. Be funny. It's the same thing I said about Mike Vassal at the Sox games. If you're going to do this, I'm the injured pitcher and I'm a wizard and I have my wand.

[B]

Go.

[A]

Go hard, go harder. Go full wizard costume. Get, you know, wave, have actual spells and I want to win. Gaultium Leviosa. Expect us Patronum. You know, go do that stuff. Lean into it. So this, that. That's my message to the. The. The shirtless young men of the world and take it to heart. Do just be a force for good. Please prove me wrong and be a force for. For good in the world. I don't think that's too much to ask. You know, I think it's really important to be smart about managing your finances, and that's why I believe Monarch is the app that can help you in doing so. Monarch's like having a financial advisor in your pocket. It's a personal finance app and it tracks everything that can help you take care of your financial picture, accounts, investments, saving goals and spending. Most apps only tell you what you've already spent. Monarch helps set goals, map out big purchases, and see if you're actually on track before it's too late to adjust. There's an AI weekly recap. It flags spending spikes, net worth, shifts and upcoming expenses. And you can ask the AI assistant anything about your finances. How much did I spend on travel last summer? Can I afford this vacation without touching my savings? Write your own money story with Monarch. Use the code [e-mail] to get your first year of Monarch core half off at just 50 bucks. That's 50% off your first [e-mail] with the code DBU. Now it's time for the question, how much would you pay for this?

[B]

Yeah, let's go.

[A]

Let's get to it. You've been waiting for this.

[B]

I have been since yesterday.

[A]

How much would you pay? Here's the story. Kentucky Fried Chicken founder Colonel Sanders, pressure cooker, black bow tie and dozens of other personal items are up for public auction. Along with his former home and a dinner house, Sanders Opened after selling his iconic restaurant chain. Harlan Sanders, still known as the face of the worldwide chain originally known as Kentucky Fried Chicken, now kfc, established the Shelbyville, Kentucky property as his first headquarters of his restaurant business in the late 1950s. He sold the property, which included his home in the Claudia Sanders dinner house, in 1974 to Tommy and Sherry Settle, who've run the restaurant since then. Colonel Sanders was the original celebrity chef, said Bill Menish, whose firm, the menish group Mannish Boy, is conducting the auction. The feedback's been worldwide. We needed to have an auction that would cater to that worldwide audience. Online pre bidding concludes with a live in person. Oh, wait, it was last night. The sealed bids were taken last. Oh, no. Sealed bids for the restaurant and his former 5,000 square foot home will be taken until Friday. The memorabilia, I believe, was sold last night. So you can check Sanders's personal watches, an original cash register, his cutlery set, a bust sculpted by his daughter, and a commercial gas range from his house are among the items up for bidding. Sanders sold KFC in 1964 to a group of investors, but continued as a brand ambassador for the company. And he created the character of the Colonel. Said he didn't dress like that. Before he was starting to build Kentucky Fried Chicken, he adopted the Colonel. The clothes, the bow tie, the glasses, the goatee. I didn't know it was a bit. I didn't.

[B]

You know how old he was when he started KFC?

[A]

35.

[B]

He was 62.

[A]

Oh, when he started it, he was 62.

[B]

So there's still hope for you, Dan.

[A]

Yeah. I got five years left to figure

[B]

out what you're calling and passion to

[A]

try to figure this out. Now, I wanted to mention this for the one item before I get to what I thought was fascinating here. The bow tie, the black bow tie. The highest online bid on Monday was $2,000. Oh, what did it go?

[B]

Way over. Bid for that.

[A]

What did it go for?

[B]

Because I thought you said his pressure cooker, like his own personal pressure cooker and bow tie were like a combo deal.

[A]

I don't think so. All right, I. I've got the actual price. What do you. What do you think? The. It's a clip on. Clip on. Wow. A clip on black ribbon bow tie that appears on his image and the KFC logo. What do you think it sold for?

[B]

Five grand?

[A]

Eight.

[B]

Eight thousand.

[A]

Okay, $8,000.

[B]

What did his pressure cooker sell for?

[A]

It doesn't say.

[B]

Okay, because I'd give you. I'd give you 50 grand to have Harland Sanders pressure cooker.

[A]

His 1964 personal planner drew the highest price at $30,000. But this is what I found interesting. One of the most intriguing pieces. Was it this 1964 planner? Now, tell me if you think what I think on this one. There is a handwritten herbs and spices recipe that was the subject of an early 2000s lawsuit filed by the KFC Corporation to keep the contents private. KFC later dropped the legal action, saying after reviewing the planner, the ingredients didn't match. Sanders secret blend of 11 herbs and spices. It was likely a recipe for stuffing. I call bullshit.

[B]

Yeah. I don't believe it.

[A]

There's no way Colonel Sanders isn't jotting

[B]

down a recipe for stuffing.

[A]

First of all, he's not jotting down a recipe for stuffing. Second of all, there's no way they would have spent all that money and then maybe realized they were going to lose the suit they dropped. They said, oh, wait, we've figured out it's not the recipe. Okay, that sounds like a massive misdirection to me.

[B]

Yes, I agree with that.

[A]

Because, I mean, they're herbs and they're spices. Big deal.

[B]

It's not herb, but it's herbs.

[A]

It's the dear boy himself. Or as Eddie Susie Izzard said. He said something about, well, what about the herbs? You call them herbs. We call them herbs because there's a fucking H in it. I, I think that that's probably the recipe.

[B]

And I.

[A]

It probably. They just said, well, if we, if we pretend not to care, nobody's going

[B]

to care about it. Use it. So it's. That sold for 30 grand?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So I think you probably have it here. Well, we. We've looked at it, and it doesn't match our secret recipe. Sure it doesn't. Sure it doesn't. Wait a second. Black pepper is in this. Who would have known? Oh, my.

[B]

Well, yeah, because they got a hold of it. They. They jotted in, like, melted chocolate bar. They added that to it, like, no,

[A]

it's not the recipe.

[B]

Go ahead, give that a try.

[A]

Citric acid orange soda. Oh, I had no idea. Okay. I just. I just thought you'd find that interesting. I. I don't know. What, the whole clip on bow tie thing.

[B]

Yeah, I would want that. I would. I think this. No, but the fact that it was this. If it was his personal pressure cooker, I'd want that one.

[A]

But the fact that he wore a clip on. Yeah, that. Isn't that supposed to be a violation? Aren't you supposed to tie George Will Wore a clip on. You think that the Ken Rosenthal, when he's trying to. To spread the word and publicize his charities, wears a clip on.

[B]

No, but Colonel Sanders to do. Man, he's got chicken to make.

[A]

You know, I'm busy.

[B]

Bow ties.

[A]

I'm busy, damn it.

[B]

And that. That falls in line with it being a bit. He's not going to take time to tie a bow tie if he doesn't really believe in it.

[A]

It's a character.

[B]

It's like a Halloween costume.

[A]

I. I know, but I want to picture him what he looked like before. Like that.

[B]

Yeah, I want to see. Yeah, I'd like to see him without the.

[A]

Like it. Was it a glue? Was it a glue on goatee, too? Is the goatee. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not sure of that. Now we have to doubt everything.

[B]

No, that's real.

[A]

We have to. And truth be told, guess the. For $23,000, somebody bought his certificate of being a Kentucky colonel. You know who else is a Kentucky colonel?

[B]

Will Stein.

[A]

I am.

[B]

What do you mean, you're a Kentucky colonel?

[A]

Years ago, Terry and I did a whole bit about Kentucky colonels, and anybody can buy colonel status and get the certificate. I don't have the certificate because I think it was over at the old building at the Score. At NBC Tower somewhere. Or maybe at Belmont. Probably Belmont. It's somewhere. It's sitting in a box somewhere. But somebody, a listener, registered both Terry and me as official Kentucky colonels and sent us the card, the certificate. So I'm bona fide.

[B]

Yeah. You should start a chicken restaurant.

[A]

No, Colonel Bernstein just. Well, Colonel Dan sounds better than Colonel Bernstein.

[B]

Well, no, you'd have to be a lieutenant. They'd have to chop your legs.

[A]

Lieutenant Dan, that was.

[B]

Yeah. And you're chicken.

[A]

You got magic legs. Meanwhile, every time I see Gary Sinise, is he. Is something, like, okay with him?

[B]

Yeah. Why. Why do you say?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

It's just everything.

[A]

He's really serious.

[B]

Well, he does. He does a lot of work to help out veterans.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Is that his thing? So I think. Yeah.

[A]

So everything's heavy and serious.

[B]

Yeah, I think. I think everything he does, though, revolves around that.

[A]

That it does.

[B]

Yeah. So, yeah, he takes this.

[A]

Has he ever taken it like a super goofy role of any kind? Has he ever shown, like, that, like, a silly side? I don't think he's got one.

[B]

Oh, I'm sure he does.

[A]

No, I. I usually think an actor does, but, like, that. That one role sort of, like, defined

[B]

him like, he's 71 now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah, that's, you know, my rule about actor. Every time you see an actor in person, all always way shorter and way older than you imagined. Every time because you've. You've seen a movie, the most recent movie you saw was that person 15 years ago or 20 years ago. And then we forget, like, oh, they're people and they age and they don't always have their hair and makeup done. Oh, yeah, yeah. He. I don't think he's ever done anything silly.

[B]

No real comedies here. He did. He must have done a voiceover for. There was a animated movie called Open Season, which has credits for. So maybe he did a voiceover there.

[A]

Yeah, but I bet he. I bet his animated character was. Was like an animal that did things for injured veterans.

[B]

For injured animals.

[A]

Yes. And just very serious all the time.

[B]

Yeah. A lot of war movies, thriller type things. Yeah. I'm not familiar with all of these movies, but

[A]

I'm telling you. Telling you, like, like, really, it's like everything is about like. And he's in a band, but even the band, like, they take.

[B]

They take it very serious.

[A]

Yes. And they played serious music to raise money for serious veterans. He's a serious man, Dan. I. It must be now. That's a good movie, but terrifying. Scariest movie I've ever seen.

[B]

Well, you haven't seen the trailer for Other Mommy yet, so.

[A]

No, and I'm not. I don't want to thank you for the warning on that.

[B]

I'm gonna send it to you.

[A]

No, don't. Don't want to appreciate.

[B]

Have you seen the Odyssey since yesterday or.

[A]

No. No.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right. No. Is there going to be a version of the Odyssey called the Odyssey?

[B]

Yeah, it's about letting people go.

[A]

That's why I think they get the ship.

[B]

You can't belong on the boat anymore. You gotta off the broat. Get him off the road.

[A]

The Odyssey.

[B]

Yes. And it's your guy tossing him. He's up for legendary manager, you know, over communication. Yeah. I want to show you this skyline. Look at right there. And he pushes him.

[A]

No, it's actually for the Italian captain is. Is in charge of it.

[B]

Well, he's riding the boat, but he. Your guy pushes him off.

[A]

No, but they're all in the boat, and it goes right into the rocks. Well, first. First, there's the owner, like the father. It's like, well, son, you're gonna inherit. Take over my company. Well, I'm gonna change the name.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Are you gonna go get the new York Stock Exchange. We've been delisted. Well, do your best, private company. There's rocks over there. Oh, oh, he's in the rocks.

[B]

Drive right into him.

[A]

He's in the rocks, Scoozy. But it's. Excuse me, where's the captain?

[B]

Oh, he's. He's on one of the boats that escaped.

[A]

No, remember what he said?

[B]

He slipped and fell.

[A]

He slipped and he accidentally found a lifeboat boat. Yes.

[B]

Complete.

[A]

Just. Who, who knew Fell. I. The boat. As in I fell in and off he goes. Isn't that your boat? Aren't you the captain? No, it's Mario.

[B]

So did you. So you, you haven't watched the documentary obviously, but the, the reason that happened, they were going past some island and some of the dudes that were working on the, on the ship asked if he could get closer to it so they could like wave because they had like, relatives. No. And so they, they went out of their regular. Their route to get closer to this island at the request of some people that were working on the ship that obviously were high ranking and that's why they hit the rocks. Had he just stayed in the regular course, of course they wouldn't have drove into the rocks. But that's, that's what, that's because of it.

[A]

They sunk the ship. Ship so people could go wave at people.

[B]

Yes. They wanted to get closer to this island. That's how they.

[A]

Well, you tell them, no, we can't get close to the island.

[B]

Right. Because it sucks. I mean, this is a fucking professional cruise line. Sorry. You want to see your family get off the boat?

[A]

Negative, Ghost Rider. The pattern is full.

[B]

Pattern is full. Hey, do me a salad ride past this island so I could wave to mom to watch out for the rocks, though. Oh, screw the rocks. Okay.

[A]

Where'd he go? He fell into a lifeboat accidentally.

[B]

Like being able to hear the actual audio, the communication between the captain and like the guys in the engine room. It's really, it's really interesting because they're, they're a lot more mellow than I would have been. Like, there's a lot more calm attitude

[A]

about, about driving a cruise ship into the rocks.

[B]

Yeah. Like, there's water coming in the boat and these guys are like, hey, Scoozy, there's water.

[A]

Hey, look at this.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It'll be fine. We're just, it's. The boat is ventilated now.

[B]

Yes, we.

[A]

We just have more.

[B]

You gotta watch. It's worth the watch. It's pretty, it's pretty interesting.

[A]

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