Harry Jowsey

Summary

Teen Beat with Danielle Fishel – Harry Jowsey (March 11, 2026)

Podcast: Teen Beat
Host: Danielle Fishel
Guest: Harry Jowsey
Date: March 11, 2026
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

Danielle Fishel, known for growing up in the public eye as Topanga on Boy Meets World, flips the script by inviting today’s young celebrities to crack open their own teenage diaries. In this episode, she sits down with reality star–turned–actor Harry Jowsey, famous from shows like Too Hot to Handle and Dancing with the Stars, to explore Harry’s rebellious upbringing, adolescence down under, family drama (including wild news stories and expat life), dating adventures, and how fame, grief, and adulthood have shaped him.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Childhood & Rebellion in Rural Australia

• Early Mischief:

  • Harry jokes about never having been “cool” in his youth, referring to himself as a “little sausage” (07:06).
  • He describes growing up in central Queensland, Australia (small town of Yeppoon), attending a rural school where “bull riding class” was on the curriculum (07:38).
  • Notorious for being a troublemaker; first suspended in grade 2 for throwing a desk/chair at a teacher (09:34).

    "I think I threw a desk at a teacher." – Harry Jowsey (09:44)

  • Admits to getting kicked out of multiple schools both in Australia and after being sent on his own to New Zealand (17:44, 20:58).

• Religion and Family Upheaval:

  • Harry’s parents, determined not to force any religion on their kids, inadvertently sparked controversy when a school insisted he participate in religious activities (11:01).
  • The fallout included being attacked in the media, receiving death threats, and eventually fleeing the country for Bali (11:39).

    “We actually had to leave the country because we started getting stalked.” – Harry Jowsey (12:00)

  • The incident became national news; the Prime Minister even commented (13:00).

• Formative Bullying:

  • Upon return, Harry and his brother were bullied for being “different” and not celebrating holidays (15:05–15:50).
  • His mother cleverly pivoted to post-Christmas sales, making Boxing Day a bigger family event instead.

2. School Antics & Sibling Contrast

• Harry’s brother was “perfect,” while Harry kept getting into trouble (20:45, 20:58).
• Anecdotes about homemade “towel fights” (teen fight clubs) — wrap hands in towels and box until one gives up (18:23).
  • “Most of the times I was pretty good…But this big, this big guy…He bounced my head off a wall…and then I dated his sister, so I was a real winner.” – Harry Jowsey (18:47–19:12)
• Sports injuries: Blew out his knee playing rugby at 17 (19:27).
• Punishments included farm chores – “pick up every rock and every stick on our property” (17:51).

3. Adolescence, Growth Spurts, and Family

• Tall genes run in Harry’s family – he’s 6’5”, mother is 6’, father was tall too (21:49).
• Multiple sisters described as “little and fun” (22:13).

4. Teen Romance and Dating

• First real crush at age 10 (“Imogen”), lost his virginity at 14 to “Jenny” (26:36–27:44).

  “I was 14, and that was who I lost my virginity to. Love her so much at 14.” – Harry Jowsey (26:36)

  • Humorous tale: Jenny critiqued his performance and jokingly told him to “come back after a few more girls” (27:52).
• Early dates in New Zealand were basic – “dinner, park, go for a walk” (29:04).
• Now prefers creative dates, e.g., flying to Catalina Island by helicopter, pre-writing a series of compliments for his date (29:37–30:23).
• Teenage brand dream deals would have included “Lynx” (Axe) deodorant and Colgate toothpaste (30:50–31:10).
• Described eating habits as insatiable – “the size of a horse” but “built like an asparagus” until his 20s (31:43–31:59).

5. Career, Fame, and Transition to Acting

• Danielle lists Harry’s transition: reality TV success (Too Hot to Handle, Perfect Match), Dancing with the Stars, eventual move to acting (The Wrong Paris, Horrified) and now his own Netflix dating show (Let’s Marry Harry) (03:57–06:28).
• Prefers acting for its collaborative nature and the satisfaction of being “an accessory to someone’s dream” (33:32–34:55).

  “I love acting because…the main essence of it is it’s someone’s dream and their idea, and I love being a part of someone’s dream.” – Harry Jowsey (33:32)

• Reality TV: Chaotic, unpredictable, sometimes “a menace” (e.g., stirring drama or feeding people mayonnaise at parties) (35:27–36:17).

6. Celebrity Encounters & Aspirations

• Grew up idolizing Justin Bieber, Tom Cruise, Brad Pitt (37:27).
  • Hilarious, awkward Tom Cruise encounter: tried to bond over a mutual Pilates acquaintance (Glen Powell) (38:04).
• Celebrity crush: Angelina Jolie; attributes his reality show inclinations to the chaos of “Mr. & Mrs. Smith” (39:27–39:52).

7. Coolness & Gen Z Trends

• Harry dismisses the dirty-jeans trend for Danielle and commends her for being “cool” just by having a podcast (44:34).
• Goofy generational gap about Gen Z hand-heart gestures (44:50–45:16).
• Health and wellness: Both discuss trendy peptides and NAD, with Danielle noting cancer survivors need to be cautious (45:23–46:55).

8. Dealing with Fame, DMs, and Dancing with the Stars

• Harry reveals receiving DMs from fans even in their 70s and 80s – “some freaky older ladies…want a taste of the sausage” (47:09).
• Reflects on Dancing with the Stars: loved the experience, but was hurt by the “bubble” of relationships that faded after the season (47:42–50:25).

  “The biggest thing that upset me the most is when my dad had passed…No one had text me…It was horrible.” – Harry Jowsey (48:51–49:18)

9. Grief, Family, and Growth

• Harry opens up about losing his father; expresses gratitude for being with him at the end (50:48–54:22).

  “That was the hardest thing I’ve ever experienced… watching him take his last breath. But that was such a beautiful thing…” – Harry Jowsey (50:48)

• Shares reflections on how grief reveals true friendships and how different people respond to death and loss (54:22–56:20).

  “If you text your friend, like, ‘hey, thinking about you…whatever you need, I’m here…’” – (56:07)

• His journey with religion is reignited by loss, now seeking his own beliefs as an adult (14:33–14:46).

10. Upcoming Projects: ‘Let’s Marry Harry’

• Netflix show produced by Alex Cooper (“Call Her Daddy”) – Harry promises “chaotic,” “vulnerable,” and “cringe-filled” moments, with lots of drama (56:20–58:12).
• Sia joked about joining as a contestant if everyone else was “a dud” (56:40).

  “A lot of stuff for my dad is going to be in there…which was really, like, I guess, vulnerable and opens me up more…” – Harry Jowsey (57:11)

11. Closing Reflections

• Danielle asks if Harry cringes at his old reality TV persona – Harry admits it’s hard to watch now that he’s focused on settling down (58:12–58:38).
• Tease for bonus content: voicemail segment on the Teen Beat feed.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “We had to leave the country because we started getting stalked…horrible threats on my mum…we ended up leaving the country, went to Bali…” – Harry (11:39)
• “I remember because I was like, oh, dad, there’s all these camera crews in our driveway. And my dad just walked outside naked…get out of here!” (13:00)
• “Kids are so mean…but it was…very formative.” – Harry (15:05)
• Danielle: “You don’t seem like a troublemaker.” Harry: “Me? Come on!” (17:48–17:51)
• “A helicopter to Catalina…pre-written compliments for her” – Harry on his “craziest” date (29:37–30:23)
• “I love being a part of someone’s dream” – Harry on acting (33:32)
• “I'm the spokesperson for the Dead Dad Club with all my friends…” – Harry (55:30)
• “If you text your friend, ‘hey, thinking about you…whatever you need, I’m here…’” – Harry (56:07)
• “I don’t have to compete with other guys for screen time or hide stuff in people’s rooms.” – Harry on Let's Marry Harry (57:27)
• “A lot of…embarrassing things that I’ve done…I’ll be watching through my fingers.” (57:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Introduction & Harry’s Bio – 03:57–06:28
• Defining “Little Sausage” & Early Misbehavior – 07:06–09:46
• Religion, School Expulsion, and News Scandal – 11:01–13:00
• Bullying & Nontraditional Holidays – 15:05–16:12
• Fight Clubs, Rugby Injuries, School Transfers – 18:23–21:02
• Teen Relationships, Dating Stories – 26:36–30:23
• Brand Dreams & Snacking as a Teen – 30:50–31:59
• Reality TV vs. Acting Reflections – 33:32–36:17
• Meeting Tom Cruise & Celebrity Crushes – 37:27–39:52
• Coolness, Generational Differences, Peptides – 44:34–46:55
• Older Fans & Dancing with the Stars Fallout – 47:09–50:35
• Grief, Losing His Dad, and Friendships in Loss – 50:48–56:20
• ‘Let’s Marry Harry’ Netflix Show – 56:20–58:12

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Takeaways

• Harry Jowsey’s wild, unruly adolescence was marked by resistance to authority, a nontraditional family approach to religion, and headline-making scandals.
• He experienced both the benefits and pitfalls of reality TV fame, with an evolving perspective on relationships, adulthood, and grief following his father’s passing.
• Honest about his evolution (and cringe over his reality TV “fboy” persona), Harry demonstrates self-awareness and emotional depth.
• Danielle’s approach—humorous, nostalgic, and empathetic—offers listeners an engaging ride through the messy, meaningful milestones that turn even the “coolest” young celebrities into relatable human beings.

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For listeners:
If you enjoy hearing candid stories of growing up, forming identity, making mistakes, and navigating fame, don’t miss the bonus segment on the “Teen Beat” feed. Plus, send your own tales of teen cringe for Harry to react to on a future episode!

Transcript

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Harry Jowsey]

I'll never leave your cookie bed

[Danielle Fishel]

I stay the

[Harry Jowsey]

night and one night we can two or three years. The kids are not alright but that's okay cause no one here is take

[Danielle Fishel]

me well hello teeny Beaters. Nope, it's not it. Still workshopping our names. We will get there at some point, I promise. But more importantly, in the meanwhile, this is Teen Beat with me, Danielle Fishel. It's a podcast where I invite interesting people to sit down and chat about their upbringings, the glorious and the awkward, all in an attempt to pay me back for the years I spent on television as a literal kid. It's an easy concept. I gave you my childhood. It's time we hear yours. And this week I'm hanging out with a reality television superstar who's here not only to talk about his formative years, but this session will also double as a conduit between his generation and mine, with the goal of making me cooler by the end of this episode. 28 years old, 6 foot 5, this Queensland, Australia native burst onto the scene in 2018 as the state standout star of New Zealand's hit reality dating show Heartbreak Island. Leaving with a $100,000 prize and a newly recognizable name in branding, he then sidestepped the success onto 2021's British dating game show Too Hot to Handle and MTV's Match Me if youf Can, a prime example of celebrity in the always changing media Landscape of today. He continued to make the unscripted rounds from floor is lava to amazing raced Australia to perfect match, eventually landing on the 32nd season of Dancing with the Stars where he helped usher in a new era for the show, one that has continued to gain momentum ever since. Then he made the once impossible transition into traditional acting, appearing in last year's the Wrong Paris alongside Miranda Cosgrove and the upcoming Horrified with Ron Perlman, Busy Phillips and Jim Rash. And now he's about to raise the ante with his own reality dating show, let's Marry Harry on Netflix, executive produced by Alex Cooper of Call Her Daddy fame, with the goal of guiding the serial dater toward a committed long term relationship. He has his own podcast on the Unwell network called Boyfriend Material. But today he's here on Teen Beat because I have to assume somewhere underneath this hot guy facade is an awkward, dorky teenager. You know what? It's probably not. It's probably always been cool. Anyway. Welcome to the show. Harry Jowsey.

[Harry Jowsey]

That was the coolest intro I've ever had.

[Danielle Fishel]

Really?

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, the thing that sticks the most. Reality TV superstar.

[Danielle Fishel]

Superstar.

[Harry Jowsey]

No one's ever said that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Really.

[Harry Jowsey]

It's usually reality TV star. Well, I've got the super now.

[Danielle Fishel]

Superstar. Yeah, supermodel superstar.

[Bowen Yang]

Also.

[Harry Jowsey]

You really, like, did your research.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, we're about to fly by night operation here. It's I heart.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. This is the big.

[Danielle Fishel]

This is a serious building, as you called it. Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

That's so cool. I feel really official.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, you should. And you're very cool. You should, you should, you should feel cool.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Wow.

[Harry Jowsey]

What do I do now? It's so fun.

[Danielle Fishel]

Am I right? Have you always been cool?

[Harry Jowsey]

No, no, I was terrible. I was such a little. Yeah, little sausage.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, I'm gonna need some more explanation about that. What's a little sausage?

[Harry Jowsey]

I just feel like sausage is like a universal word and I just say it for everything.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, so what does it mean in terms of what you were like as a child, you little sausage?

[Harry Jowsey]

Can. I swear?

[Danielle Fishel]

You sure can.

[Harry Jowsey]

Okay, cool. Because I was gonna say I was a little.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, got it. Yeah, that makes sense to me. A little sausage. I need an explanation. You say a little. I get it.

[Harry Jowsey]

Okay, cool. Yeah, no, I usually say sausage for like anything bad, but yeah, I was a little growing up. Like, I was. I grew up in central Queensland, Australia, in this small town called Yepoon. And the closest city is Rockhampton, which is the beef capital of Australia.

[Danielle Fishel]

So some might say the sausage capital.

[Harry Jowsey]

The sausage capital. Yeah. A lot of Meat going around over there. The funny thing is that growing up in a place like that, you know, in school you have like different classes, right? Like New Zealand. When I went to school in New Zealand, there's rugby class where I grew up, there was like bull riding class.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wow.

[Harry Jowsey]

I never did it because I'm too tall to ride a ball.

[Danielle Fishel]

And also there was a height requirement.

[Harry Jowsey]

I don't think so.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, you're just making that up.

[Harry Jowsey]

Just letting everyone. I'm tall.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love that.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Again, I mentioned it in the intro. He's six.

[Harry Jowsey]

We need to lock that in as

[Danielle Fishel]

many times as possible, guys.

[Harry Jowsey]

6. 5. But yes, it's like bull riding class. And then one of my nephews, he grew up in Byron Bay. And there's a surfing class, which is really cool. I don't know if they do that in America.

[Danielle Fishel]

Absolutely not.

[Harry Jowsey]

We should do it.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, there's bowling. I took bowling.

[Harry Jowsey]

Okay. Bowling.

[Danielle Fishel]

Bowling? Yeah. In college.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Seriously, I needed. I needed like a one unit class.

[Harry Jowsey]

Why did you do.

[Danielle Fishel]

I needed a one unit class and I gotta admit, I like bowling. I really do. So I thought.

[Harry Jowsey]

Are you good at it? Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, I. Yeah, I can be. I was that semester.

[Harry Jowsey]

Wow. How do you get graded with that? Like how many.

[Danielle Fishel]

You just show up. Really? You just show up and you actually, you know, look, tell. Listen to the thing. They tell you what all the dots

[Harry Jowsey]

mean and do we know?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Do you remember?

[Danielle Fishel]

I kind of remember. You know, it's like where the pins are. And you know, you. You kind of determine your own. You want to keep your arm really straight. And so depending on where the pins are out there, you actually want to go the opposite direction. Like if you've got a pin to your right side, you want to go more left than. More right.

[Harry Jowsey]

God.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. So anyway, it's just technical. Yeah, it's very technical. But I want to. I want to get back to you being a little shit.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, okay. Yeah. No, I grew up. I was just a very naughty kid growing up. I think the first time I got suspended was in grade two.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, for what?

[Harry Jowsey]

I think I threw a desk at a teacher.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's not a little thing.

[Harry Jowsey]

I think it was that.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's not little.

[Harry Jowsey]

I'll definitely do that at some point.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought you were going to say throwing a paper airplane.

[Harry Jowsey]

No.

[Danielle Fishel]

And then you said throwing a desk at a teacher.

[Harry Jowsey]

No.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Should you be in jail?

[Narrator/Advertiser]

For sure.

[Harry Jowsey]

Oh, 100%. And I have been. Oh, wow.

[Danielle Fishel]

I want this story too.

[Harry Jowsey]

No, I think I was. It was either A chair or desk, but. But I was very little. It was my first ever memory of school. I didn't like the teacher, clearly. And then me and my friend. I think his name was Cody, we weren't too good together. We're both very naughty. It was Farnborough State School, Very rural school. And yet it wasn't really going well at that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Doesn't seem like it.

[Harry Jowsey]

No.

[Danielle Fishel]

What had they done? The teacher, this terrible teacher.

[Harry Jowsey]

I'm the worst teacher ever. I'm definitely the victim. I'm definitely.

[Danielle Fishel]

I can see where this is going.

[Harry Jowsey]

No, I don't remember. I just think I was just like a kid. I was not very good at following rules, but also, like, yeah, I. We had a big problem with that school anyway, so it was about time that we left.

[Danielle Fishel]

But so it happened for a reason. You were just trying to get your family out of there.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Out of the trenches. Yeah. No, we. To be honest, we did have a really bad run in with them. So I grew up with my parents not wanting us to believe in any religion.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep.

[Harry Jowsey]

So they had religion forcing them growing up. So they're like, when you guys are kids, we just want you to believe in whatever you want to believe in. And then when you turn 18, that's what we focus on. So, like, you just do whatever you want. So back when I was at school, super young religion, it was, like. It was kind of mandatory, like, part of the curriculum. Yeah. Yeah. So there was one class, and I remember this one class where they're like, oh, you have to sing hymns. And I was like, oh, my family doesn't want me to do that. And I got kicked out of the class. And this was. I think this is before or after. I think this is before the desk operation. Okay, so maybe they were trying to do more. More desk stuff.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Maybe get me angry. But. So I got kicked out of class, and it turned into a whole thing in the news because I went outside and I was like, oh, what I do? So I told my parents, like, how was school? It was terrible. I kicked out of school because I didn't want to sing these hymns. And obviously my parents were like, well, you shouldn't be forced to do something that we. That we don't believe in. So then, yeah, it ended up my. I think my parents wrote a letter to the headmaster, and then it escalated. Ended up in the news. We actually had to leave the country because we started getting stalked. And we had. We would have all these Christmas cards. Flood our address. Flood our address. And then horrible threats on Us, like horrible, crazy threats on my mum, saying, I remembered this and I shouldn't have read it, but I remember this one card said I was gonna. They were gonna put dead rats in my mom. Like, it was obviously a lot more detailed than that. I should have read it. But we ended up leaving the country, went to Bali, which is a pretty good place to escape to. It was beautiful. And I remember we came back and there's this news network called A Current Affair. And they were on our flight. They're like, yo. My mom was like, oh, I've seen you on tv. And the guy was like, like. She's like, why are you coming to your poon? So I got to interview the jerseys. Like, we want to get them on. On the news and tell her side of the story. Mom was like, oh, that's us. That's Harry. And then it turned into a whole thing. And I remember that was the first time I was on tv.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wow.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. But we had the. The. The Prime Minister of Australia, John Howard. I think he spoke on it, which is pretty cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Well, not like, good reasons, like it wasn't anything to be proud of. It was pretty wild. And then we got doxed by the local news channel, too. They came to our address to. They literally just showed up. And I remember because I was like, oh, dad, there's all these camera crews in our driveway. And my dad just walked outside naked. He's like. He said, get out of here. Like, he's pretty proud of what he's got. Yeah, that's scary. And they left and they said the Jazzies didn't want to be on camera. And they panned to our address and the number and where it was. So that's. I think that was before. That was before we left. So we obviously. We left, obviously. Now with religion, I've got a way different perspective on it. After losing my dad, I was like, I should probably believe in something. Like, it's nice. And I'm also 28, so I've started to try and figure out what my path is with religion. So all that to say is that it was all that drama for no reason, because now I believe in something. I just trying to figure out kind

[Danielle Fishel]

of what your parents were fighting for, the right for was for you to become an adult and figure it out on your own.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. So it's kind of nice.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's nice.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Cuz I just remember being a kid and I was like, I wish I believed in something because I'd always be afraid of death and I would Scare it. Scare me as it scares everyone. And I'd wake up in the middle of the night like, oh my God, I don't know what to do. Like, be crying. I just wish. Even if they didn't believe it, or even if it's a bit of a lie, or even if, like, God, it's just so nice to believe in something.

[Danielle Fishel]

To believe in something.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. So I think now that's when I'm thinking about having a family. It's like, oh, I kind of want to just have like a soft. This is what we believe in. Anyway. So that was the first kind of trouble growing up.

[Danielle Fishel]

I really gotta be honest, when I started this questioning and you said you threw a desk at a teacher, I did not expect the story to end up with me actually believing that you were the victim. And I was like, wow, that really. You are a very persuasive storyteller. Because I actually think that teacher probably deserved it.

[Harry Jowsey]

I remember that was just the first memory I had of being naughty at school. And then I remember I left that school after all all the religion stuff. And I went to a different school and Yupoon State School. And that was cool. I remember that was a lot of fun. But we were still. Me and my brother would get bullied about the religion stuff. It would be so wild. Like kids would. Kids are so mean. But it was like very formative. It was.

[Danielle Fishel]

Did you guys describe yourself as atheist or.

[Harry Jowsey]

No, because apparently that.

[Danielle Fishel]

So just non denominational.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, we don't even know, like that was a thing. Like people like, oh, you're this or that. I'm like, I don't even know. I don't. And that was kind of nice. But yeah, we'd always get bullied about like Christmas, oh, what are you going to do on Christmas?

[Danielle Fishel]

Because you didn't celebrate any holidays then either.

[Harry Jowsey]

No, we didn't. But my mom was kind of cheeky. So obviously after Christmas is Boxing Day. So she would go get all the sales and she'd be like, we're doing New Year's celebration instead. Which was nice. So we would. I tell everyone we got more presents, but I don't think we did because my mom just wanted to get the deals right.

[Danielle Fishel]

She just wanted the sales.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, maybe she does believe in religion. And that was the whole thing.

[Danielle Fishel]

That was her thing. Listen for our kids. Because I have a similar feeling in the sense that I really don't want to push my own beliefs onto that of my kids. So I tell them that everyone believes something different. No one knows for sure. And here's what Mommy believes. But you can decide if you believe the same thing or if you believe something different. And that way there's a little bit of a grounding foundation of, yes, I believe the same thing, Mommy. Or at least just putting them. Putting the thought in their mind that I want them to be critical thinkers and that they can pick and choose some of the things that ring true for them. And these are the things that I believe. But I don't know either. Like, I'm not right. And if this. Just because I believe something different than what your friend believes doesn't make them wrong.

[Harry Jowsey]

So when you go, so nice to ask questions.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

That's what I realized. That's what I'm grateful for with my parents, is that it's so open for me to figure it out and ask questions.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Because I. I would. And I. I think you see a lot of that with people that are kind of like, this is how it has to be. They. They get stuck in that, and then they grow older and they're like. Like a lot of my friends are ex Mormon. Yeah. They grow older and they're like, oh, I don't know if that's right. I don't know if I believe in that fully or maybe I somewhat believe in it, but I don't. And because they were kind of stuck in that way, they kind of. Once it unravels, it really unravels.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

So that's why I get a bit worried about. And I'm again grateful with my parents so that I can question everything.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

But. Yeah. Anyway, got kicked out of those schools. I think I kicked out another school. And.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wow. I. You don't seem like a troublemaker.

[Harry Jowsey]

Me? Come on. No. I remember the first time I got suspended, my dad said to me, because we grew up in the country, he said, you're never going to do this again. You have to go and pick up every rock and every stick on our property. And that was the worst thing ever because we lived on a farm.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right. So it was just rocks and sticks everywhere.

[Harry Jowsey]

It was all rocks and sticks.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. So that was. And that was for a whole weekend.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. I feel like that was your dad's version of, like, wax on, wax off.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what? It didn't work because I got to spend it again.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Was that for a fight club? I know you've been pretty vocal about your teenage fight clubs. Were they, like, official? Did someone. Was someone keeping minutes or anything?

[Harry Jowsey]

No. No. You know how we call them Towel fights. So you wrap your hands in towels and you punch the shit out of each other until the towels fall off. Oh, and that's a round. Done. Or until you, like, want to stop. Okay. And I wasn't. I thought I was good at it. I wasn't very good.

[Danielle Fishel]

Did you always win?

[Harry Jowsey]

There's one time I. Most of the times I was pretty good. This one time wasn't that good. This big. This big guy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Bigger than you. You're 6 5.

[Harry Jowsey]

He was pretty large. He was large and in charge. He bounced my head off a wall. And it was the first time I was like, oh, God. I got pretty dizzy and I ripped the towels off. I said this. I'm gonna get him. And then everyone held me back. But then I dated his sister, so I was a real winner.

[Danielle Fishel]

So you're the real winner.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yep.

[Danielle Fishel]

Shout out to our teenage. Our. Like, it's crazy how much we have in common. I also.

[Harry Jowsey]

I had a fight guy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Towel fights.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Is that the worst injury you had as a kid, or did you ever get hurt worse?

[Harry Jowsey]

I got a knee reconstruction at 17 because I was playing rugby.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. And I had. That popped out. I thought I was pretty good. Not very good. But, yeah, I played. So I played rugby in Australia, and I got tackled from behind, and the guy, like, pulled my. Pulled my shin, and then my knee kind of.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, gosh.

[Harry Jowsey]

Fell off my leg. And that was kind of cool because when you stand up and you're full of adrenaline, my knee kept slipping off my leg, and I was like, what's wrong with me? Oh, God. But it was still together. And then my dad was like, you're being a pussy. Get back out there.

[Danielle Fishel]

Your dad has some re. I mean, he was a funny guy.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

He's very funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

Coming out naked, telling you, go back out there with your knee falling off your leg.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. I think because it wasn't like a crazy hit. Like, it wasn't like.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Harry Jowsey]

He didn't know moment. It was just like. And also, I was built like an asparagus. Like, I was so skinny and long for no reason. And, like, my. Like, my legs should have broken a lot sooner, so it wasn't very good. But, yeah, so I went to school in Australia, got kicked out of school in Australia. Then my parents were like, we're just going to send you to a different country. And then I went to school in New Zealand, Rugby there. And I was the worst. I was on the worst team at school. And on the bench for them.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

Like, they would just put me on for 10 minutes at the end of the game, like, oh, Harry should probably run.

[Danielle Fishel]

How old is your brother?

[Harry Jowsey]

I think he's 31.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, so he's three years older than you.

[Harry Jowsey]

Two and a half.

[Danielle Fishel]

Two and a half. Two one a half years old. Did he also have to go to New Zealand?

[Harry Jowsey]

No, no, he was perfect at school.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

Now he's a.

[Danielle Fishel]

Did they send you a loan to another country?

[Harry Jowsey]

Yep.

[Danielle Fishel]

Cool.

[Harry Jowsey]

And you know what? I got kicked out of that school too. I delivered a tent for two weeks.

[Danielle Fishel]

You what? You deliver in a tent?

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. For two weeks at school?

[Danielle Fishel]

Was that your punishment?

[Harry Jowsey]

No, my parents, like, we spent so much money on you for boarding school. Like, Since I was 14, I was in boarding school. And so they're like, oh, yeah, we spent so much money in boarding school for you. And this was your final year at school. We give up.

[Danielle Fishel]

And there's only two weeks left is what there were. Two weeks left.

[Harry Jowsey]

Two weeks left. Like you didn't have to go to the sister college and streak. I didn't have to do it. Have to do it. But it was funny. And if one of our friends didn't get caught by the police and snitch on everyone, we would have got away with it.

[Danielle Fishel]

We would have gotten away with it if not for those meddling kids.

[Harry Jowsey]

That's what we're saying.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

You know, so it's kind of not really my fault.

[Danielle Fishel]

I see. Gosh, I really feel very bad for you.

[Harry Jowsey]

It's horrible, honestly. Troubled upbringing.

[Danielle Fishel]

Were you always tall? Did you like, sprout overnight or.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, I, I, My family's quite tall. Like my mom's six foot. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like me.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, Exact same.

[Danielle Fishel]

You walked in and you were like, oh my gosh, you're so tall.

[Harry Jowsey]

What's my mom doing it. This is so tall. No. Yeah. I think my brother's 6:2, and then my dad was 6:3 and then he started shrinking.

[Danielle Fishel]

You're the tallest in the family.

[Harry Jowsey]

I have to be. Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

And then I got four. Four sisters. And they're quite little. Yeah, little and fun.

[Danielle Fishel]

Great.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah.

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when everything just clicks. Buy your car today on Carvana. Delivery fees may apply. When did you first notice girls? And when did they first start noticing you?

[Harry Jowsey]

Jenny, she was. I was 14, and that was who I lost my virginity to. Love her so much at 14. Yeah.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Wow.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. Because all my friends were doing it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. That's why. Yeah, that's.

[Harry Jowsey]

That's usually how it happens.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. And I'm like, God, is it fun? What'd they say? It's kind of weird.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

No, I.

[Harry Jowsey]

No, actually, the first girl I noticed, I think I was 10. I'm like, oh, this is. There was a. Because there was. Her name was Imogen. Remember that? Really good with names.

[Danielle Fishel]

You are good with names.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Imogen. I remember because my. Her parents were from a different. Different town, and my dad was, I think, helping build their shed. And they're like, oh, we're gonna come stay on the farm for a little bit, whatever else. And I was like, oh, this is. Is this my first girlfriend?

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Harry Jowsey]

Maybe not. But then, as I remember, I turned 14. All my friends were, like, telling me about, like, losing their virginities for the first time with their girlfriends. And I was like, God, what do we do? Who do I go for? And then Jenny is my friend's cousin. She's like, I'll do it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Be your girlfriend or have sex. Have sex.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. And she had a boyfriend of two years, so she knew what was going on.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

She knew the laser.

[Danielle Fishel]

She knew the ropes.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. And so that was the first time. And I remember I was like, this is weird. Yeah, this is interesting. I was like, I don't expect it to feel like this. And then she was like, go out there and then come back to me after you get a few more girls and I'll tell you if you got better. I was like, it was like that bad.

[Danielle Fishel]

She was so like.

[Harry Jowsey]

She was cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

Woman of the world.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, she was cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, I remember that. Was like obsessed with her too. At school, like every. Everyone would always yell at me, like on forest gum, like, I love you, Jenny.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Harry Jowsey]

They would always yell that at me.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, it was obvious that you loved her.

[Harry Jowsey]

It's my queen.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. I don't know where she's at now. She's probably happily, who knows? Love her so much you've never bothered

[Danielle Fishel]

to look her up, see if you can find her on social media.

[Harry Jowsey]

No way. I just keep name dropping her in every podcast, just everywhere you go.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's like you ever name tattooed on you?

[Harry Jowsey]

I actually do. No, I was like, wow.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, I don't. Let me see it. Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

No, I don't. I've done that. That crazy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Where do you go on dates in New Zealand? What's the dating scene like?

[Harry Jowsey]

Oh, it was pretty bad. That's why I ended up on these dating shows. Okay, what do we do? Running out of options. To be honest, until recently, I wasn't very good at being a data.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

Kind of silly to say, but I realized that if you want something, you have to put in effort. If you want something good, you got to put an extra effort.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

So when I was younger, I would be like, dinner, park, go for a walk, like whatever. But when I was at school in New Zealand, pretty much just like I love doing stuff in the daytime. I love daytime activities or going and doing something together.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

But now I'm being more active. We're trying to plan better dates and be a better data.

[Danielle Fishel]

What's. What's a good date for you now? Like, if you were gonna plan a

[Harry Jowsey]

great date, you wanna hear the craziest one?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Fly to Catalina island on a helicopter, get dinner and then fly back.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wow.

[Harry Jowsey]

Because I thought that was like pretty intense.

[Danielle Fishel]

That is pretty intense. What if it's a bad first date and then you've got like a helicopter ride and a like totally romantic.

[Harry Jowsey]

Pretty good Instagram stories.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, true. Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

So that's good that I went on. I. Throughout the whole date, I had written pre written compliments for her. I was really excited to see this person.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

And every, like, I think like every 30 minutes or so or 20 minutes, I would give her a piece of paper, and I'd be like, I think you're so amazing.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh.

[Harry Jowsey]

And then the end of it, I was like, I think you should be my girlfriend. Yes. I had, like, 10. 10 or so written out, and I kept giving it to her, and I was like, oh, I should. This. This makes me feel good. Because it's intentional.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's nice. Yeah. And you got to think about really what you wanted to say instead of just trying to come up with them on the spot.

[Harry Jowsey]

And it makes her feel special. Yeah. And that's the main part.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's the most important part. So let's go back to. Let's say you're 16 and you start looking for brand deals. Not that that was a thing when you were 16, but let's say that it was. What are some of the products you hope reach out to you when you were 16?

[Harry Jowsey]

Lynx deodorant, which is like our ax. You guys have Axe over there.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep, we sure do.

[Harry Jowsey]

That's the one. Yeah. So it's rebranded Lynx in Australia, I think.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

Lynx. And Love them. And Colgate toothpaste.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, you've always been a Colgate guy.

[Harry Jowsey]

No, I hate them so much now. But back.

[Danielle Fishel]

Back then, you loved it.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. And I used to have the yellowst teeth, but I just. Yeah. And mouthwash. I was a big Listerine mouthwash guy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. But then apparently that's also not good for you.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. You know what? Nothing. Is anything good for us.

[Harry Jowsey]

No.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Whatever. Whatever you currently are using, it's bad for you. Whatever you used to use is now better for you and whatever. And. And then five years, it'll change again.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. Actually, back then I had braces and blocks and rubber bands, so, yeah, maybe teeth stuff would have been cool. Okay. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Did you have a favorite food or snack?

[Harry Jowsey]

No. I was like this. I'm the size of a horse, so I just eat everything.

[Danielle Fishel]

Everything.

[Harry Jowsey]

And when I was 16, I was just. I couldn't eat enough food. It was wild.

[Danielle Fishel]

But you said you were built like an asparagus, which is the opposite of a horse. So when did you go from asparagus to horse?

[Harry Jowsey]

I think when I was, like, 22.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

When I started to fill out. But, yeah, back then I was more like a flamingo, I think.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

Skinny legs and just a pot belly.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hot.

[Harry Jowsey]

It was a unique look.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do you have a favorite reality TV show you have not appeared on?

[Harry Jowsey]

Oh, I just finished Traders. Have you been watching Traders?

[Danielle Fishel]

I have seen Traders? Yes.

[Harry Jowsey]

Would you do it? Have you done it?

[Danielle Fishel]

No, I've not done it. And I think I would be terrible at it. Would you want to be a faithful or a trader?

[Harry Jowsey]

Trader. For sure. I would get caught out right away.

[Danielle Fishel]

You think so?

[Narrator/Advertiser]

For sure.

[Harry Jowsey]

I'm so bad at lying. No, it's all the other shows where I kiss a girl and I lie about it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

I'm like, watching it. I'm like, this guy's stupid. You can see it. You can see what?

[Narrator/Advertiser]

I'm lying.

[Harry Jowsey]

I'm like, no, wait, me? I would never kiss that girl.

[Danielle Fishel]

What?

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. No. And then I'm like, exaggerating. Like, tell them to pull up the replay. This is a TV show. Right. I'm like, this guy's a idiot. So me, as a. As a trader, go. We didn't care what that person.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

We.

[Danielle Fishel]

I didn't mean we.

[Harry Jowsey]

I meant they who literally. I would just. But I was. I've been obsessed with that because I've had a few of them on my podcast, and I just think, like, the whole experience would be cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

No more dating shows. Me, let's Marry Harry was my retirement one.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, I wanna get to that in a second, but before I do, I do wanna talk about your crossover into traditional movies. Real acting you're doing now.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

What do you like more? Do you like being yourself on reality TV or a heightened version of yourself on reality tv, or do you prefer something that's scripted where you get to play a character?

[Harry Jowsey]

I love acting because everyone has the. I guess the. The main essence of it is it's someone's dream and their idea, and I love being a part of someone's dream. Like, I love being like, oh, my God, I get to be an accessory. Like, because you know how it is. It takes forever to get a thought.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

To film.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yes.

[Harry Jowsey]

Like a thought in front of the consumer. And like, so many corporate meetings. And then who's the right person for this position? And then rewrites the script. Like, there's just so much stuff that goes into it. And just like, I'm not saying reality TV isn't like that, but when everyone's on set, everyone knows the game plan. Everyone's read the script, everyone's so excited about it. Everyone knows what they need in the scene.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Harry Jowsey]

And I just love that. Like, I love that idea. And I love that, like, think reality TV is a little bit more, like, unraveled. Like, it's just. You could be filming 20 hours a day. You could be all over the Place, you don't know what the scene is going to give. You don't know if you got a hit or not hit. But like, when you're on set, like, you can feel.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

The vibe when on a scripted set. So the movies I have done, like, I just really love that and I just love seeing people like really nail it. Like in a scene you're like, oh, my God. Wow.

[Danielle Fishel]

And you love. Obviously, like you just said that collaborative. We're all in. We're all on the same team. We're all going for the same goal and now we're just going to talk out what the best avenue is to get there.

[Harry Jowsey]

So.

[Danielle Fishel]

Cool. Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Whereas like reality tv, it's like you

[Danielle Fishel]

don't even know what the storyline is.

[Harry Jowsey]

Get drunk or kiss that girl and then lie about it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right, right. And are they that direct?

[Harry Jowsey]

No, it's my brain.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, got it. Right. But they are, right, they are, they are thinking, like, let's see if he'll get drunk and kiss that girl and then lie about it and then we'll

[Harry Jowsey]

have a show and he'll do it every time. Every time.

[Danielle Fishel]

You gotta get. You gotta get that guy. You gotta get.

[Harry Jowsey]

Whenever I bought a show and I hear a producer or someone say, this is getting boring. I'm back. One second.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hold on, let me have it. Hold on. Let me get a fireball shot.

[Harry Jowsey]

What are we gonna do? No, that's the. Because I'm. I'm just like. I remember like earlier shows, like, I would just be a menace. Like I would go into something, like. Because obviously there's different couples. Right. I'd take something out of someone's bag and put it in someone else's bag. Like they're gonna fight. And then I go like, dude. Because everyone's over analyzing producer's dream. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Just take away all the bad producer responsibility from them and you do it for them for free.

[Harry Jowsey]

It's so stupid. I remember Perfect Match. It was like one nighter. No one was doing anything and I was so drunk. So I just like got all the mayonnaise and walk around. I'm like feeding, like feeding everyone mayonnaise. You have to eat it. It's so good. Never made the cut. It was just so weird.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right? But you know, it. It was an experience that you'll have.

[Harry Jowsey]

And everyone there, everyone now had a tummy full of mayonnaise.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. And they will get to tell everyone, Harry loves feeding people mayonnaise when he gets drunk.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yep. Very no good.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'd like to pitch you a movie okay, let's go. This is pretty earnest. I'm serious here. I want you to do a Three Amigos reboot with Rob Rauch and Dylan Efron.

[Bowen Yang]

Wow.

[Harry Jowsey]

That would be cool. But they're really nice guys. They're so sweet.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So are Steve Martin and Martin short. And then you could be a Chevy Chase.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Perfect. Okay. Yeah. No, I really love Dylan. I haven't met Rob. Maybe I have. I'm not sure. But Dylan is the best guy ever.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Harry Jowsey]

He's so sweet.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know what's going on. Couldn't love him more.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Just the nicest.

[Harry Jowsey]

The nicest guy ever.

[Danielle Fishel]

True. Like, salt of the earth. It's like, no surprise, too, that then he and Robert Irwin connected because it's, again, another guy. You're just like, is there a single bad bone or even just a bit of a bone? I don't think so.

[Harry Jowsey]

No bones.

[Danielle Fishel]

No bones. They're made of mayonnaise. It's just incredible.

[Harry Jowsey]

Let's go. How do we get that movie up and running?

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Harry Jowsey]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah.

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[Harry Jowsey]

He's just the coolest guy ever. Tom Cruise, obviously. Wow. I think. And Brad Pitt, too. If I met Brad Pitt, I'm probably. I know the thing is, like, it's when you meet people like that, like, maybe it's different, but I'm like, I don't know what to do with my hands. Like, I don't know what to look like. I met Tom and I was like, we've got a mutual friend. Right? And he was like, okay. I was like, I've done Pilates with Glen Powell one time. And he was like, he's done Pilates with Glenn. And then I'm like, okay, who did

[Danielle Fishel]

he say that to?

[Harry Jowsey]

Just, like, looked at the. There was so many people and looked at the crowd, and I was like, oh, God. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Mr. Cruz, can I take a picture with you? Can we just take the photo?

[Danielle Fishel]

Could you send me your cake?

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Your yearly cake. I want to be on the cake list, please. Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Wait, what's the cake list? What is this?

[Danielle Fishel]

Tom Cruise. Everybody he works with, he then the following year, sends them a cake. Everyone he remembers, everybody's names. He sends them, like, a person. It's a Christmas gift. He sends them I think it's a sweet la. No, it's not a sweet Lady Jane. It's a Woodland Hills cake do bakery. It's famous and people who get it now, it's like, you know, Hollywood lore. Oh, are you on the Tom Cruise list to get the cake? And now with social media, people who get them will open them up and cut into them and take bites.

[Harry Jowsey]

I'm gonna lie. I'm gonna buy one from this place. Like, thanks.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, thanks, Tom. Do it. Great. Perfect. I'll put him on the list. This digested Pilates with Glen Powell. Not sure how we got a cake.

[Harry Jowsey]

Imagine I'm just gonna lie. Yeah. Guys, thanks so much.

[Bowen Yang]

Thank you.

[Danielle Fishel]

I really appreciate it.

[Harry Jowsey]

You've got a big Mission Impossible. The next one. I'm in it. I'm the lead.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm the lead.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, I'm the lead.

[Danielle Fishel]

Not Tom.

[Harry Jowsey]

Not Tom. Yeah. I'm stepping in. I'm his replacement. Now he sees the potential after this one really awkward interaction.

[Danielle Fishel]

Did you have any celebrity crushes growing up?

[Harry Jowsey]

God, yeah. I fig. Oh, obviously Angelina Jolie.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, come on.

[Harry Jowsey]

Come on.

[Danielle Fishel]

Who didn't have a crush on Angelina Jolie?

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. Mr. And Mrs. Smith, I think that was. I'm like, I need a love where we try to kill each other. Then I go on reality date each other. Maybe it's them too. They me up.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's. We can blame them. Yeah, we can totally blame the two of them.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. Mr. Ruth and Smith. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't be on reality.

[Danielle Fishel]

It would never happen.

[Harry Jowsey]

Love life would have been perfect. Yeah. I think. Yeah. It's only. That's crazy.

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[Harry Jowsey]

See, you didn't strike me as someone who's dirty.

[Danielle Fishel]

Thank you.

[Harry Jowsey]

Let's cut out the dirty pants.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Not for me.

[Harry Jowsey]

You didn't do that. Okay. I think you're crushing it. You've got a podcast. Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. It's very cool.

[Harry Jowsey]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Harry Jowsey]

Okay. Or like, this isn't this. I don't think that's right.

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[Harry Jowsey]

I think. Yeah. I think there's something with the pinkies.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Harry Jowsey]

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[Danielle Fishel]

This one? Yeah, exactly. But I'm matching it with yours, so we do it together. See?

[Harry Jowsey]

Am I. Did I just age myself? I don't know if there was that.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm so happy you're old.

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[Harry Jowsey]

I'm so. I'm the oldest person in life. I don't know. I feel like health and wellness is really in, too, so.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

Peptides.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, what do you take? BP 157.

[Harry Jowsey]

I'm taking the glow mix. Oh, have you not heard of this one?

[Danielle Fishel]

No.

[Harry Jowsey]

The Glamix and nad. So Glamix.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know about all about nad. I had an NAD shot not that long ago, and it bruised the back of my arm.

[Harry Jowsey]

Okay. The German ad.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, I didn't even feel it, but I. Yeah, I don't know. I think I bruise like a peach.

[Harry Jowsey]

Oh, you do?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. It's nice and sensitive and sweet.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm just little, you know?

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, you are. I think. Yeah. I think Glowmix is GHKCU in it. BP157. And then there's something else, but it's like, meant to be really good and good for your skin.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. I just want people to know, not that I'm anti your health and wellness thing, but for people who I had cancer in 2024. And peptides, one of the reasons they're so good for your skin is that they promote cell turnover. One of the things you don't want if you have cancer is those cells to turn over and multiply.

[Harry Jowsey]

I had it three times.

[Danielle Fishel]

You had what three times skin cancer? Okay, so what I'm saying is Peptides right now are kind of all the rage, but they're not for everyone. So worth possibly talking to your dermatologist to say, is there a potential for my skin cancer cells to be regenerating?

[Harry Jowsey]

Because I love lying to her, though.

[Danielle Fishel]

You just. Oh, God.

[Harry Jowsey]

It makes you feel better.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. You know, I lie to my therapist. I don't lie to my oncologist.

[Harry Jowsey]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

You know, pick and choose the doctors you lied to, friend.

[Harry Jowsey]

Okay, that's a good point. Who? You don't even have to tell me the name.

[Danielle Fishel]

Just. What's the oldest person you've ever had slide into your DMs?

[Harry Jowsey]

Oh, I don't know, like 70s or 80s, I think. Really? Well, Dancing with the Stars has got like the average. The average audience age is 60, I believe. Maybe it's change now, but when I was on the show, there was 60, and after that I had some. Some freaky older ladies in your dm. I want to get a taste of the sausage, you know?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah,

[Harry Jowsey]

I was gonna say apple pie, but I don't know why I turn it freaky. Anyway, I'm gonna shut up.

[Danielle Fishel]

I am about ready to wrap up my ballroom career with a few final dates on the Dancing with the Stars live tour. And you competed and also hit the road. Did you have as much fun on the show as I have been having, which is immeasurable amounts of fun in case you were.

[Harry Jowsey]

You were having the best time ever.

[Danielle Fishel]

Bad time of my life.

[Harry Jowsey]

I wanted to die.

[Danielle Fishel]

Did you?

[Harry Jowsey]

No. It was the best experience ever.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

So rewarding and amazing. I just never danced in my life.

[Danielle Fishel]

Same.

[Harry Jowsey]

And I'm like, well, you're little and easy to move. No. Yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

You just fling me around.

[Harry Jowsey]

You're good. Yeah, I'm a tree. And one of the judges, like, one of the extra judges, one day, he was like, oh, you're a tree trunk. You don't know what's going on. I'm like, ow. First off, yeah, I'm trying.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Harry Jowsey]

Second Off. You're correct. So when I was on tour, I came out as a tree. Oh. And it was really fun. But, no, I had the best time. Everyone was really lovely. And then they weren't.

[Danielle Fishel]

And then they weren't.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. Because you're not cool when the next season comes around so everyone stops talking to you.

[Bowen Yang]

Well, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, also, you know what that schedule's like when the next season comes around.

[Harry Jowsey]

Oh, they're locked in.

[Danielle Fishel]

Boy, you have no time for anything. I was. I was a little surprised by how much of my life it absorbed. Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Deletes every plan and everything that you have. Yeah. The next season came around of the show, and I realized, like, a lot of the people were not texting me back or unfollowing me. And actually, the biggest thing that upset me the most. Biggest thing that upset me the most is when my dad had passed. No one text me, and I was really close to them. No one had text me apart from Sasha. And I was like, okay. So I was like, oh, I don't know if you guys are really my friends or. It was just. It was horrible. It was. Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

That was a very telling moment for you.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. And also, I think the hardest thing was, like, I was trying my best with all the noise and everything, but I just think I'm. I'm kind of glad that I'm not friends with any of them because of when my dad had passed that, like, I was like, there was one of them. I was training in the gym with him. Like, every day, I'm like, oh, I could. And I. And I told him that my dad was sick, and there was a lot of them, and I knew that they knew that something was going on. I think that was the thing that most. It's like, oh, okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

There's no denying he knew, right?

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. No denying that. And you could have texted or anything like that, but when I posted the photo, like, and my dad's past, they just like it. And I'm like, yeah, I. I would have moved mountains. Like, I. If it was you, I would have been there. So I think that's why I'm like, I'm kind of glad that that chapter is behind you. Yeah. I don't know if you're really real people, but it's all good, because I think when you're in that show and I've spoken to other people that were on the show too, like, it's just such a bubble. And you see, like, it's. It's such a bubble, and nothing else matters. And I think, like, when you. When you're a dancer and you're on that show, that's like, you made the NFL.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Cause, like, a lot of the other pros that, like, leave the show, they're kind of like, they're outcasts. They don't really talk to them, so it's a bit weird anyway. I'm probably gonna get in trouble for that, but I don't really care.

[Danielle Fishel]

You've mentioned a couple of times about your dad passing, so it's obviously something that still deeply affects you. And you were close to your dad. You've had great stories in this podcast about your dad. Do you want to talk about a little more about your dad? Is there anything in particular you want to say or share?

[Harry Jowsey]

I just. It's like, grief is so fun. And I love. I love thinking about my dad and love getting the opportunity to talk about, like, lost one. Like, lost loved ones. Because it's really like, that was the hard. The hardest thing I've ever experienced is watching him take his last breath. But that was such a beautiful thing to be a part of. And I think you learn a lot about your environment and your people and who really cares and who's really there when you're going through something so humanizing.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

And something so, like, traumatic. And I just, like, I was just so grateful that I was there to. To be there and experience that. But, like, there's so much drama around death too. Like, family is so silly and sassy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Harry Jowsey]

Like, isn't it kind of funny?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

How people get when someone goes. But I just love. Yeah. I just. I love being able to talk about him because he's. He's my whole personality, you know? Like my dad was when we were growing up. He's the biggest flirt in front of mom. He's flirting with the waitress. Right. He's teaching me how to tip. I remember we would be. First time I ever tip because tipping's not a thing in Australia.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

But if someone's really good, my dad would be like, here's some cash. You go to shake their head and you hide the cash in there. And I'm like, okay, that's cool. Cuz you don't want other people to see it because then they'll think that they get some, like, okay, it's like, only the good one.

[Danielle Fishel]

Only the good ones.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. Yeah. But I love, like, I just love thinking about that stuff because this is all fleeting.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Right.

[Bowen Yang]

And.

[Harry Jowsey]

And I guess that's where my. My journey with religion is going now. Because I remember sitting down with him because he went through. With his sister dying, and that was the scariest thing, but the most beautiful thing on the planet, because you get to know that he's. This is the day, like, he gets to choose, and you get to be there. You get to spend every day with him. And that was really cool, but.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wow.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

It was just like, obviously, every relationship and every relationship with your parents is up and down, and I had so many. I, like, two or three years where I didn't talk to him because he struggled with alcohol, and we had just a very rocky relationship. But as. As anyone does, like. No. No relationship.

[Danielle Fishel]

Absolutely.

[Harry Jowsey]

But I. I just. I'm so grateful that we got to. We got to know, and I got to look back and just all those hard days and all those happy days, just be grateful because it's my dad.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. It's really nice that you were there, too, for those. Those last moments, I really think are like, just one of the, like, points of life.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. It's so, Like. It's so. I remember Alex Warren was talking about it when his parents had passed that, like, he was in the hospital, and his whole world is just, like, flipped on its head. Like, it's the hardest thing he's ever gone through. And he walks outside, and the world

[Danielle Fishel]

is all just moving.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah. People are driving past. No one cares. And that's why I felt like. I remember because he had a drink and he went to sleep, and I remember sitting there, I was like. Because my sister Sarah, she said, hold his feet. You'll get all his magic powers when he goes over. So I'm sitting there holding his feet, and he takes his last breath. I remember I was like, wow, this is really up. This is the hardest thing I've ever done. I can't be in this room. So I went outside and went and cried in a bush. I'm, like, looking. I'm like, no one. No one knows. No one cares about what just happened. I'm like, this is.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a very isolating feeling. Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

But then I. This. Yeah. Same thing. Like, I just look at all the people that reached out. Like, there was friends that were like, I'll fight in New Zealand right now.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

There was friends that were like, oh, I'll literally do anything that you need. I'll be there, whatever else. And then there was a lot of friends that didn't. Couldn't even text or call or whatever. And it's not like I needed it. Like, I'm good, and I had my Sisters. But, God, it's nice to just know who's there. Because then it's like. But. Well, I was gonna say a birthday text, but it's a little bit. You can let that slide.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. You can let that one go.

[Harry Jowsey]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, I agree with you. Grief and death, though, does. Everybody responds.

[Harry Jowsey]

Fascinating, huh?

[Danielle Fishel]

Very differently. Some people really, like. I don't know what to say and that not knowing what to say paralyzes you. And certainly there are other people who are just assholes and are just like. Like, gonna be callous and not care. But also for other people, it. It can. I don't know what to say. I don't wanna. Do I call? And if I call, am I interrupting? Am I. You know, everyone. It can make people weird.

[Harry Jowsey]

And death is so scary.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

And I think the only thing. Because now I guess I'm the spokesperson for the Dead Dad Club with all my friends. So when I've had a few friends now who've lost parents and I. My best advice to anyone, if they have a friend that's lost someone, whatever else is just them knowing that you're there.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

Is super important. So, like, the greatest thing, the greatest gift that I learned was that I don't want people calling me all the time. I don't. On a good day, like, if someone's blowing my phone up, it's horrible. But on those moments, I just. If you text your friend, like, hey,

[Danielle Fishel]

thinking about you, thinking about you.

[Harry Jowsey]

Whatever you need, I'm here. Love you so much like that. Wow. If I had that from half the people that I'm angry at, it would have been a different story. And I still would have tried to help.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

And. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So, anyway, thank you for sharing all of that with me. That was very special. So let's talk very briefly about let's Marry Harry, executive produced by Alex Cooper for Netflix. Outside of assuming you just pick Sia at the end, we don't know anything about it. What can you tell us?

[Harry Jowsey]

So Sia does get picked at the end? No. You know what's funny is she texts me, and she won't buy me saying this. She texts me. She goes, if they're all duds, Harry, just let me know. Come save the day. She's awesome. She's. She's so funny. Like, we have such a good relationship. She's like, just let me know if you're not having a good time, and I'll. I'll come save the day. And I'm like, okay, cool. But it is. That was one of the hardest things I've ever done.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

A lot of stuff for my dad is going to be in there.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Harry Jowsey]

Which was really, like, I guess, vulnerable and opens me up more than I've ever been opened up on a show before. And I think also it's different this time because I have to be anyone by myself.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

I don't have to compete with other guys for screen time or I don't have to hide stuff in people's rooms. But there's obviously a lot of drama. Way too much drama. A lot of sleepless nights.

[Narrator/Advertiser]

Pretty.

[Harry Jowsey]

Pretty chaotic show. Amazing cast. Like, the most beautiful cast on the planet ever to exist. Most incredible stories, most incredible people. And I just think that it's gonna be such a wild ride for everyone to come on. There's a lot of cringe moments. I'm sure that I've done, a lot of embarrassing things that I've done, and I just. Yeah. I think I'm gonna be watching through my fingers. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Now that you're at this phase of life where you are ready to settle down, do you hate watching old reality clips of young fboy? Harry can't do it.

[Harry Jowsey]

Like, it's nice to look back and be like, oh, I don't want to be like that anymore.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Harry Jowsey]

But also, my whole dating life has been on TV since I was 19.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Harry Jowsey]

So there's a lot of. Yeah. A lot of silly decisions, of course. But, yeah, now I'm glad it's wrapped up.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, good. When you get Harry Jowsey, you don't just let him leave that easy. He's gonna stick around for a bonus episode where we will listen to one of your voicemails. It'll premiere this Friday on the dedicated Teen Beat feed. Just search Teen Beat wherever you get your podcasts. That way, every new episode just shows up when they're released. Plus, I want you to share your own tales of childhood cringe with the POD podcast. Record a voice memo recalling the most embarrassing story from your teens, and then email it to teenbeatpodgmail.com and the next thing you know, Harry Jowsey will be commenting on it. It's that easy. Teen Beat is an Iheart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fishel, executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Sudboksh. The theme song is by moving Mark Hoppas. Yes, that Mark Hoppas. Follow us on Instagram eenbeatpod.

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[Harry Jowsey]

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