Lala Kent

Summary

Teen Beat with Danielle Fishel – Episode: Lala Kent (March 4, 2026)

Episode Overview

Danielle Fishel welcomes reality TV star, entrepreneur, and podcaster Lala Kent for a candid conversation about growing up outside the spotlight in Utah, navigating faith and family, becoming a reality TV phenomenon, and reimagining self-image after motherhood. The two bond over childhood experiences, career trajectories, beauty standards, and the transformative power of vulnerability. Both share raw insights into friendship, forgiveness, body image, motherhood, and hopes for love and the future. The episode will resonate with anyone who's ever felt like an outsider, struggled with self-acceptance, or had to laugh through growing pains.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Introduction & Early Praise

• Danielle sets the tone, describing Teen Beat as the place for guests to share their “awkward teenage stories,” emphasizing empathy and mutual understanding.
• Danielle’s elaborate, affectionate intro details Lala’s trajectory from “bar hostess” to “star of another show, Bravo’s The Valley,” calling her “unscripted TV’s cool older sister.”
  • Lala, laughing: “Wow. That was like the most spectacular intro I think I've ever had in my life. I love it.” [04:03]

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Dancing and Going Against the Grain

• Danielle asks about Utah’s ballroom dancing culture; Lala says ballroom was a main credit in junior high, but admits, “I just could never get into it. ...I like to think that I can move, and I like to think that I'm athletic until I try. And I'm like, oh, I am so awkward.” [04:27]
• Lala admits she’s intimidated by the idea of doing Dancing with the Stars:
  • “It would take me out of my comfort zone in such a way that I think I'd have a panic attack. ...Now I want to say, if that opportunity presented itself, I think I would be all in for the mere fact that I want to feel uncomfortable so badly.” [05:55–06:21]
• Danielle and Lala commiserate about being perfectionists and struggling to be vulnerable while “being watched while you're learning something that's very vulnerable.” [07:24]

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Faith, Family, and Being an Outsider

• Lala describes growing up in Utah, with a father who left the Mormon Church before her birth and a Christian mother:
  • “There were so many things...he clearly had been told his entire life that were not good...where it was almost like I had to coach my dad through those moments...It's all good, man. Let it go.” [08:55]
  • “I gravitated towards people who also didn't have Mormon families.” Lala explains her family’s approach to “spirituality not organized religion.” [09:56]
• Both Lala and Danielle traded strict religious upbringings for a more personal faith, discussing the pressures and specific moments that led their families to step away from organized religion. Danielle recalls her family leaving the Catholic Church after realizing it was “a money making enterprise.” [10:46]
• Lala talks about the unexpected burst of Mormon representation in pop culture, e.g., Real Housewives of Salt Lake City:
  • “I never expected that. ...It's something I recognize but I'm not close to.” [12:17]
  • She recalls feeling like “the black sheep” at her Mormon relatives’ gatherings and the subtle (and not-so-subtle) forms of judgment and misunderstanding. [13:13–14:19]

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Generational Cycles and Being an Old Soul

• Lala emotionally discusses how her dad’s love for the arts was likely stifled by religion:
  • “I think his upbringing was really hard. ...I struggle a lot with that now that he's Gone...I babied my dad so much...like, you're good enough, you don't need to beat yourself up.” [15:25]
• Both agree they acted as “little therapists” in their families from early ages, often feeling responsible for others’ emotional health.
  • Lala: “It's a blessing and a curse...I was never able to be a kid.” [16:07]
  • Danielle: “It never felt like I was supposed to be young. I was always an old woman in a young person's body.” [17:02]
• They joke about being “85 years old” at heart (“It's 7 o' clock. I've got to get to bed.”) [17:52]

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Young Love and Teenage Crushes

• Lala describes her “first boyfriend in the third grade” and her “glow up” post-braces in seventh grade, joking about delivering the line, “You go through girls like you go through underwear,” in elementary school—a line she got from her mom. [18:21–18:41]
• Her healthiest relationship was her high school sweetheart (“six-four man”), with whom she lost her virginity—an experience she values for its intimacy and positivity:
  • “...That is kind of what tees you up for your relationship with sex going forward. ...I'm so grateful that my first time being intimate with somebody was just that. It was intimacy, it was partnership.” [19:49–20:20]
• Both reminisce about early crushes on gay classmates and the iconic nature of these formative experiences. [21:39]

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Navigating Scandal, Friendship, and Social Media

• Danielle asks about high school drama:
  • “Everybody knows everybody [in Utah].” Lala feels LA is “freaking smaller” when it comes to social circles. [24:06]
  • Transition into the arrival and impact of social media:
    • “Social media is my worst enemy...I have imposter syndrome and all of the things that they want me to do that get millions of views, I look at and I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm so embarrassed.” [25:46–26:07]
  • Danielle relates, saying she mainly used social media “for work purposes” starting with Girl Meets World (2014) and still struggles to post about products, even ones she loves.

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Self-Worth, Vulnerability, and Accepting Help

• Both discuss the discomfort of promoting products online and why “asking anybody for anything ever makes me feel worthless.” [28:20]
• Lala: “I feel that way with men. I don't need you to buy me anything... I don't want to owe you anything.” [29:14]

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Forgiveness, Growth, and Friendship

• Lala shares her perspective:
  • “I don't hold a grudge. I think if a productive conversation is had, I can move on pretty quickly...I forget, I move on.” [29:50]
  • “If behaviors have shown me something...You stay over there and I'll stay over here. Just pretend like we don't know each other.” [31:09]
• Both value real forgiveness, not “recordkeeping” in relationships, and acknowledge that sometimes “we're not meant to be friends.” [32:06]

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Body Image, Beauty Procedures & Motherhood

• Danielle candidly discusses her aging body after cancer and two kids, sharing her insecurities about postpartum changes:
  • “I don't recognize what's going on anymore from, you know, chest to below my belly button. ...I've recently started thinking, I think I would feel significantly better about myself if I had some sort of breast lift...And yet I struggle...that's probably coming from a really unhealthy, not evolved part of my brain.” [38:08]
  • Lala empathizes, describing her own post-baby body issues: “I'm so insecure about it. ...I can't be on top of a man. Are you crazy?” [36:09]
• Discussion of Morpheus treatments, tummy tucks, and boob jobs as routes to feeling better in your own body, not for “anybody else.”
  • Lala: “If you feel that you would feel better with a little nip tuck, you should do that. ...We have to feel that way. And if that comes with me getting a little procedure done, then I'm gonna freaking do it.” [39:53–41:09]

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Sneakerhead Bonding

• Both share a mutual passion for sneakers, especially Jordan 1s and 4s.
  • Danielle: “I was a heel, almost exclusive...after having kids, I was like, what are we doing? ...Before I became just sneakers, I was all about the heels.” [43:20–43:53]
  • Lala confides she “evolved into” being a sneakerhead after motherhood, prioritizing comfort, saying, “I just want my closet full of different sneakers...I love them.” [42:55–43:20]

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Parenting, Sibling Differences, and Raising Daughters

• Lala describes her two daughters and how different their personalities already are:
  • “Ocean is just the girliest of girls...Sosa is just kind of mimicking right now...They're so different, though.” [44:38–45:24]
• Both acknowledge the challenge of parenting children with divergent needs and personalities, and the need for flexible approaches (“You can't parent them the same.”) [46:26]

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Local Recommendations & Manifesting Love

• Danielle asks for Valley (San Fernando) “hidden gems”: Lala recommends “little Izakaya on Sepulveda” for sushi—“You would think that this strip center...there's nothing there. ...You got to go. ...They're all open and they're all popping.” [47:39–48:54]
• On romance, Lala predicts 2026 is the year she'll find her person:
  • “I am open to others, anything and everything that you want to bring to me. ...I'm actually very open to finding my person. So I just. I just feel that way.” [49:14–49:21]
  • Danielle gives an eclipse-themed manifesting tip: “Between now and March 3rd, you write down the things you want, but as if you already have them.” [50:19–50:52]
  • Lala: “That's gonna be what I do tonight.” [50:52]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Ballroom Dancing and Awkwardness

• “I like to think that I can move. ...And I like to think that I'm athletic until I try. And I'm like, oh, I am so awkward.”
  — Lala Kent [04:27]

Faith and Growing Up LDS-Adjacent

• “...I gravitated towards people who also didn't have Mormon families. ...My mom was raised very Christian and my dad was raised very Mormon...let's just raise our kids with spirituality.”
  — Lala Kent [08:55]

Being a “Little Therapist”

• “...Looking back, it's like, oh, wow, how amazing as a child that I could do that. But as a child, taking that on felt like a huge burden. I felt like, yeah, I was never able to be a kid.”
  — Lala Kent [16:07]

Body Image after Motherhood

• “I'm so insecure about it. ...It's when I move a certain way, like I can't be on top of a man. Are you crazy?”
  — Lala Kent [36:09]
• “I don't recognize what's going on anymore from, you know, chest to below my belly button. No clue whose body this is.”
  — Danielle Fishel [38:08]
• “If that comes with me getting a little procedure done, then I'm gonna freaking do it.”
  — Lala Kent [41:09]

Forgiveness and Moving On

• “I don't hold a grudge. ...I forget, I move on.”
  — Lala Kent [29:50]

Manifesting Love

• “I think I'm gonna find my person this year. ...I just feel it.”
  — Lala Kent [49:14–49:21]
• “Between now and March 3rd, you write down the things that you want, but as if you already have them.”
  — Danielle Fishel [50:19]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro & Lala's Welcome – 04:03
• Dancing, Rebellion, and Vulnerability – 04:27–08:39
• Religion, Community, and Family Dynamics – 08:40–15:56
• Therapist Kids and Old Souls – 16:07–17:49
• First Crushes/Boyfriends and Teenage Love – 18:21–21:39
• Social Circles, Scandals, and Social Media – 24:06–26:39
• Self-Promotion and Asking for Help – 27:38–29:14
• Forgiveness & Friendship Philosophy – 29:50–32:32
• Body Image, Surgeries, and Confidence – 32:58–41:50
• Sneakerhead Bonding – 42:10–44:18
• Motherhood & Raising Kids with Different Needs – 44:18–46:53
• Valley Hot Spots – 47:39–48:54
• Manifesting a Relationship – 49:14–50:56

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Final Thoughts

This episode blends humor, vulnerability, and reflection—capturing everything from awkward childhoods and adolescent disasters to real talk on religion, love, plastic surgery, Instagram anxiety, and hopeful new chapters. Both Danielle and Lala are frank about their insecurities and coming-of-age struggles, making for an unusually honest, relatable, and inspiring listen.

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To Hear More

Stay tuned for Friday’s bonus episode featuring even more from Lala and a listener-submitted teenage cringe story!

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Transcript

[Lala Kent]

I'm Clayton Eckerd.

[Danielle Fishel]

In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's the Bachelor. But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him.

[Wells Adams]

If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one night stand would end in a courtroom. The media is here.

[Lala Kent]

This case has gone viral.

[Wells Adams]

The Dating Contract.

[Lala Kent]

Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you.

[Danielle Fishel]

This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lala Kent]

Then she says, have you seen a photo of my son? And I'm like, who is this person?

[Danielle Fishel]

Welcome to the Boys and Girls Podcast. Arranged marriage is basically a reality show and you're auditioning for your soulmate. And who's judging? Only your entire family. I sacrificed myself to this ancient tradition hoping to find love the right way. And instead I found chaos, comedy and

[Lala Kent]

a lot of cringe.

[Danielle Fishel]

Listen to boys and Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Wells Adams]

Hey, this is Wells Adams with By Order of the Faithfuls podcast alongside my fellow faithfuls and co hosts Tamara Judge and Dolores Catania. The three of us have been watching this season of the Traitors and we've been inside that castle so we have insight. Unlike many others, this season of the Traders may be the best we've ever seen. Listen to by order the Faithfuls on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow by order the Faithfuls and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app today.

[Lala Kent]

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[Wells Adams]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Wells Adams]

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[Danielle Fishel]

And asparagus are 199 per pound member

[Wells Adams]

price plus 16 ounces strawberries, 6 ounces raspberries or blackberries are 197 each.

[Danielle Fishel]

Limit three member price with digital coupon.

[Wells Adams]

Hurry in.

[Lala Kent]

These deals won't last.

[Wells Adams]

Visit Safeway or albertsons.com for more deals and ways to save.

[Danielle Fishel]

Give me money for cigarettes.

[Lala Kent]

I'll never leave your cooking bed. I stay the night and one night we can two or three years the kids are not alright but that's okay

[Danielle Fishel]

cause no one here is Teen Beat. Hello and welcome back to Teen Beat with Danielle Fishel, a show where I, Danielle Fishel, invite interesting people to finally return a favor and share their awkward teenage stories with me, A former child actor who already lived out her own moments of puberty in front of millions of TV viewers. And so I look at it like this. I gave you my childhood. It's time we hear yours. And this week, I'm chatting to a reality television phenomenon. An actress, a singer, a podcaster, an author, a mother, and a former bar hostess who somehow flipped her struggling Hollywood dreams into an empire bigger than she ever could have imagined. Her time on Vanderpump Rules threw her into the spotlight, but it's her dedication to turn lemons into lemonade that made her a long term fan favorite and the star of another show, Bravo's the Valley, which she currently calls home alongside best friend and crucial piece of the scandival puzzle, Tom Schwartz. She's as open on social media as a Chinese restaurant on Christmas, candid about her sobriety, cosmetic upgrades, and the beauty empire she's built, Evolving from famous party girl into unscripted TV's cool older sister. But if you ask me, underneath the hip, beautiful exterior must live an awkward teenager just waiting. Overshare with me. So this week on Teen Beat, I am thrilled to sit down with Lala Kent.

[Lala Kent]

Wow. That was like the most spectacular intro I think I've ever had in my life. I love it. Thank you. I'm happy to be here.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. I'm so happy to have you. I have to ask, as someone very fresh off the Dancing with the Stars live tour, I have to ask, how did you grow up in Utah and avoid ballroom dancing?

[Lala Kent]

You know, that never. That is so funny you asked that because that was actually like a main credit in junior high. And my dearest friend, after we graduated and, you know, we were done with, with our school years, she actually went back to teach ballroom. And I just could never get into it. I don't know if I'm shocking. I'm just, I. I like to think that I, I can move. And I like to think that I'm athletic until I try. And I'm like, oh, I am so awkward.

[Danielle Fishel]

In my mind's eye, Utah's just filled with ballroom dancers everywhere you turn. I mean, it just seems like that's a breeding ground for ballroom dancers.

[Lala Kent]

No, totally true.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, it's pretty. I mean, I know that it's supposed to be because I think BYU added it as a major and then basically it just kind of, it took off.

[Lala Kent]

Yes. I like to be the rebel. Even now, like when everyone's raving about a TV show, I Wait until no one raves about it, and then watch it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, you know what? I'm not. I'm not that much different than you. I also am that way. If someone. If everyone's making a big fuss about something, I'm like, okay, everyone settle down. I'm not trying to go against the grain. Like, I'm. I'm like, look, I'm willing to watch it. I just don't want to watch it while it's all the rage.

[Lala Kent]

Exactly. I wait for things to kind of calm down. So now that I'm out of Utah, maybe I'll get into ballroom dancing.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, would you ever do Dancing with the Stars?

[Lala Kent]

I have always said that that would be the one show that I would. That I would say no to, and here's why. Listen to me. Dancing with the Stars, because I'm so intimidated by it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Really?

[Lala Kent]

Yes. It would take me out of my comfort zone in such a way that I think I'd have a panic attack.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

But this new mindset that I have taken on where it's like, I want to be uncomfortable.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

Now I want to say, if that opportunity presented itself right, I think I would be all in for the mere fact that I want to feel uncomfortable so badly.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, you'll definitely feel uncomfortable. Yeah. It's in a. I mean, I loved every single second of it, but there's no doubt that it is. You know, it's. It can be uncomfortable, and you are working your butt off. And if you're like me and have. I had never even taken a dance class before doing Dancing with the Stars, so, like, I was starting from 00. And so, yeah, you're out of your comfort zone. And then, you know, I am. I'm a perfectionist. And so for me, having the cameras on all the time and being miked all the time, which you are probably used to. I am not. I felt like, okay, you know what? I could really actually learn this dance if we got the cameras out of here and we got this mic off of me. It just feels so weird to know you are being watched while you're learning something that's very vulnerable.

[Lala Kent]

You know what, though? I. Even though I am used to being mic'd and just, like, living and existing, it's similar to, like, if you were to mic me and put a camera on. If I were going on a date.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

I can't do this. Even though I. I think I know how. If you're watching and listening to everything, it would be the same with. With dancing. And I remember seeing you at the I Heart party, and this was probably in October, and you said it was the most difficult thing you've ever done, but you were having the time of your life. You had pulled a hamstring or something.

[Danielle Fishel]

You're exactly right. Yeah. I remember I had just come off of a massive injury, and I was like, don't want to ever stop going to do it every day for the rest of my life.

[Lala Kent]

Yes, you were having the best time. And you know what? I think if I allowed myself to say, you're going to be uncomfortable, but you're going to do it, I would feel so accomplished.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Yeah, you definitely would. Well, I really do think you would be quite an asset on the show. And I think knowing how incredible the show was for me, I would love for you to have that experience as well. So I fingers crossed that we are manifesting that for you.

[Lala Kent]

I love manifesting.

[Danielle Fishel]

And in this time of incredible eclipse, you know, we're in an eclipse, and so, yes, now is the time to bring forth all of the things from our future selves. So who knows what we're manifesting for you.

[Lala Kent]

I love it.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know your dad had been a part of the Mormon Church, but he left before you were born. What was it like growing. Growing up surrounded by the LDS community but not actually being a part of it? Was it harder for you to make friends, do you think?

[Lala Kent]

It was strange, and it was difficult because even though my dad left the Mormon Church when he was 22, which was well before I came into the world, there were so many things that you could tell, and I'm trying to be very respectful that he clearly had been told his entire life that were not good and. And that's evil and don't do that. Where it was almost like I had to coach my dad through those moments of, like, it's all good, man. Like, let it go. This is not end all. This is not determining whether you go to the highest kingdom of heaven or not. But I. I kind of gravitated towards people who also didn't have Mormon families. And, you know, my mom was raised very Christian and my dad was raised very Mormon, and I think they came together and thought, let's just raise our kids with spirituality. That was very heavy in my household is we said our prayers every single night. When things got tough, we turned to God, but it wasn't in a way that is organized religion, if that makes any sense.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Lala Kent]

And, you know, my mom didn't. My mom didn't try to keep us away from the Mormon Church. If I had a group of friends in elementary school and they went to young women's and they invited me, my mom would say, go, like, have fun. I didn't even realize that it was like a Mormon thing. It wasn't until my grandmother took my little brother to church one Sunday, and he came home with a matching game, which was basically the sequence of events that happens, right? Which was like, go on a mission, temple, marriage. And that's when my mom said, we will no longer be sending these kids to anything that has to do with this church.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Yeah. My parents were kind of similar. Both my parents were raised pretty strict Catholic.

[Lala Kent]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

And so they had been kind of indoctrinated into this idea that to be a spiritual or a God believing in family, you also had to be a part of the Catholic Church. And that meant, you know, school I went to. I can't even remember the name of it now, but I went to that school where every Wednesday we had to learn about Catholicism, catechism. We went to. Went to that every Wednesday, and we went to church every Sunday. And my brother and I complained about it every single week. And my parents, to their credit, realized they also really did not want to be doing this. They were only doing it out of guilt and the way they had been raised. And so they realized, like, I don't think the organized religion part of this is what we're believing in. I think it's just a belief in God. And so my parent. We similarly no longer went to the Catholic Church. And for us, it was a moment when my grandfather realized there was, like, some issue with the. He was paying for school. And something happened where he realized all they care about is money. This, Cath. The Catholic Church is a money making enterprise. And that was it. He was done. He was done with the Catholic Church after that.

[Lala Kent]

So once you. Once you see things for what they are, it is very hard to unsee.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, that is true. Mormons are very visible in pop culture right now. Did you ever expect so much of Utah to also end up in Hollywood?

[Lala Kent]

Not at all. I remember being at the very first Bravo Con in New York, and them. I remember seeing Andy in the green room, and he was like, you're gonna die. Guess who we're announcing today as the new city Salt Lake. And I was thrilled about it, because when I already knew what Housewives was like, and I'm like, now you're going to that crazy religion, to the mix. Oh, this is gonna be good. And then once the Mormon Wives show came out, it Was like, everyone's talking about the skin care and the hair routine and the, the bleaching for the teeth and the swig with the, you know, coffee mate in it. I never expected that. And it's crazy to look, look at it because it's something that I recognize but I'm not close to, if that makes sense.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh yeah.

[Lala Kent]

It feels very, very familiar and very triggering because although in my day to day with my friend group, none of us were raised lds, but when I went to my grandma's house on my dad's side, it was very, very clear that we were the black sheep of the family.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Lala Kent]

You know, and I noticed that as I got older and I remember bringing my boyfriend to family dinner and he and I had to leave because I had theater practice. Like I needed to go to my high school and rehearse something. And my grandma was so concerned that I was gonna be gay because I was in the arts and it was like social. Isn't that the strangest thing you've ever heard? And as I got, got as I left with my like six, four hunk of a boyfriend, by the way, I'm like, what you should be worried about is if I'm gonna go him, because you should be worried about the fact

[Danielle Fishel]

that he's taking me to my high school rehearsal and I'm gonna be alone with him in a car.

[Lala Kent]

That's what we should really be focused on. But it's like the, these little things that I, that I do remember. And when I watch whether it's Housewives of Salt Lake or Mormon Wives, I'm like, oh, I remember my family, my dad's family. I don't have any communication with any of them any longer. I remember those little things that stick with you and I'm like, I can't imagine having that every single day to where you actually believe that certain things are wrong.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

And I felt so badly for my dad as well because I think he really loved the arts and I don't think that he was ever able to participate in them because of what his parents thought that meant. Oh, I have never shared that before.

[Danielle Fishel]

Isn't that, isn't that a heartbreaking thing when you get old enough and wise enough to really think about your parents journey as human beings and not related to what they, who they are to you, but just like your dad as a young man recognizing that he loved something that he probably never fully got to embrace.

[Lala Kent]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like that's.

[Lala Kent]

I think I, I struggle a lot with that now that he's Gone. I look back on a lot of things and I just, I think his upbringing was really hard. I think he always felt different and felt that he just didn't. The, the Mormon Church did not resonate with him. And that is a struggle for me. And I think that's why I babied my dad so much. Like letting him know, like, you're good enough, you don't need to beat yourself up over things like this. All is good. You're human.

[Danielle Fishel]

It sounds like you were able to do that from a really young age. Do you, do you feel like you've always been a little bit of a therapist in your family and your friend's life?

[Lala Kent]

Yeah. I remember at a very young age when my mom had lost her dad laying in bed with her and she was obviously beside herself.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

And gosh, I was so young. I was still in elementary school, but. And I don't know exactly what I said, but my mom brings it up often where she's like, you got me through that moment. And I remember even with my dad, you know, talking him through things, I just was very in tune with my emotions and seeing things. And you know what, It's a blessing and a curse. Looking back, it's like, oh, wow, how amazing as a child that I could do that. But as a child, taking that on felt like a huge burden. I felt like, yeah, I was never able to be a kid. And not because of my parents. My parents, they were begging me to be a kid.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

But my mind just was always wanting to be older.

[Danielle Fishel]

That resonates with me so fully. I can't even tell you. I was exactly the same way. I never wanted to be in my present age or my present state. I was always anticipating the needs of others. I was always forward thinking and just couldn't wait to be an adult. And not because of all the fun things you think of about being an adult. Even the mundane just sounded wonderful to me. And I, you know, sure enough, it's pretty freaking awesome to be an adult. I do love it. Even though it's hard and there's a lot of things. I think about how I felt as a kid and felt kind of, I don't know, I just, it never felt like I was supposed to be young. I was always an old woman in a young person's body.

[Lala Kent]

Oh my gosh, I so relate to that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

And by the way, now I'm 35 and I feel like I'm 85. I'm like, oh my gosh, it's 7 o' clock. I've got to get to bed.

[Danielle Fishel]

Thank you. Me too. If I'm up and it's past nine, I'm like, guys, mama's gotta sleep. I don't know what you're thinking. This is here. You mentioned that you had a six' four super hot boyfriend in high school. When did you snack? When did you just love start, like, realize that you just loved boys? And when did boys start reciprocating that feeling back to you?

[Lala Kent]

Oh, I remember my first boyfriend in the third grade, Taylor. I carried his school picture and we were long distance, which meant he went to a different elementary school than me.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, man. Yeah, that's tough.

[Lala Kent]

And then he got. He had a crush on a different girl at his own school. So I called him and said, you go through girls like you go through underwear. I will never forget it.

[Danielle Fishel]

What? In third grade?

[Lala Kent]

In third grade.

[Danielle Fishel]

Great. Where did you get this line?

[Lala Kent]

I think my mom. My mom.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do you think she said it to you about him? Like, oh, he goes through girls like underwear?

[Lala Kent]

Yes. Because I've always had a very close relationship with my mom. At a very young age, I just shared everything with her. So you get it. It's like, that's a safe space. This woman, like, clothed me, fed me. Like, she's my everything.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

But I think I got. I think I got very boy crazy in the seventh grade where it was like my braces came off.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah, you had a glow up.

[Lala Kent]

Yes. I had a locker where I could keep pictures and a mirror and put my lip gloss on. And I just. It was like grown men, you know, Way different than elementary school. And then in high school is when I. And I talk about this all the time. My most productive and healthy relationship thus far is my high school sweetheart that I met at 17, which was the six four man.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Lala Kent]

We were together until I was 20. I ended up moving out to LA to give it a shot, and he stayed back in Utah and things just, I think, had run their course. I have nothing but amazing memories of him. And he's the person I lost my virginity to. So. That I'm so grateful for, because as, you know, like, the first time having sex, that is kind of what tees you up for your relationship with sex going forward. Right?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, yes. And there is a before and an after in your life.

[Lala Kent]

Exactly. So I was so. I'm so grateful that my first time being intimate with somebody was just that. It was intimacy, it was partnership and. But after him, man, I was. I was ready to the racism. Oh, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean at least if you're gonna say after that you were ready to go, you were 17 to 20, you're in your 20s which is college age is the perfect time to really that's where you have, that's where you know the biggest opportunity for self discovery comes about. It's for a lot of people the first time you're out from under your parents roof totally. And you're making your own decisions about who you're going to hang out with and when you're going to come home and who you're going to go on a date with and when, when and where those dates take place. So yeah, all of that, all of that makes sense. I was also boy crazy starting in elementary school. I had my first boyfriend that I remember was not long distance and he, if he did end up having a crush on someone else, it would have been on a boy because he is gay. And it was pretty obvious he was gay then to everyone except me. But you know, that did pretty much just set me up for moving forward. I have always loved gay men.

[Lala Kent]

Oh don't you and me both love,

[Danielle Fishel]

love a good gay guy. I just think they're wonderful, they're perfect people.

[Lala Kent]

I'm in my class people to be

[Danielle Fishel]

same, same great people to be in relationships with. Hon. Foreign.

[Wells Adams]

This is Wells Adams with By Order of the Faithfuls podcast alongside my fellow faithfuls and co hosts Tamara Judge and Dolores Catania. The three of us have been watching this season of the Traders and we've been inside that castle so we have insight unlike many others. This season of the Traitors may be the best we've ever seen. Listen to By Order the faithfuls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danielle Fishel]

My husband and I watched Love Loathing and Vanderpump, the documentary the Randall Scandal. We watched it and our main takeaway from it was how do men like him still find beautiful women who will date them? He is with someone right now. How do men so easily fail upwards?

[Lala Kent]

I think for him he has really conquered an art and that is going for girls, not women who are easily impressionable, don't have much life experience. You say the word Chanel and you've got them. You say the word movie producer and you've got them. You don't do much research, you just see the shiny object and. And I think he knows exactly who to prey on. Right. And I think he thought when he met me, I'm a girl from Utah. I don't think he ever anticipated the strength that I have.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Lala Kent]

I think I really shook this man to his core.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

Which makes me very proud.

[Danielle Fishel]

Good. Yeah. You should feel. You should feel good about. So thanks to Vanderpump Rules and the Valley, you are surrounded with drama and gossip. In high school, did you. Were you a part of any scandals or love triangles or was that just something you ran into later in your life?

[Lala Kent]

You know, I think the typical, like, scandals that. Especially growing up in Utah, everybody knows everybody. And I thought moving to la, it would be different. It's actually. It actually feels smaller.

[Danielle Fishel]

Smaller. I know everyone knows everyone freaking smaller.

[Lala Kent]

Social media was not. I wasn't on social media. I don't know when you got it. I remember getting my first. I had downloaded Instagram a few times and then thought, this is so dumb, I'm deleting it. It wasn't until I got to LA and started wanting to be in the industry again and getting the bug where I was like, oh, I guess social media is kind of needed now.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Lala Kent]

I wasn't in the know about a lot of things when I lived in Utah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, you're a good 10 years younger than me, so. I mean, I've really. Social media since my space Girl.

[Lala Kent]

You have not aged one day since Boy Meets World.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, thank you very much, but tell that to my knees. Yeah, I. Yeah, I. So I. I have. I mean, truly, I remember, I remember MySpace. But as far as, like actually using social media for work purposes, it did not start for me until Girl Meets World. So we're talking like 2014. So, like, you know, just 12 years ago, ye of being like, okay, I guess this is where I'm supposed to promote things that come out and talk about things and like, let people know here and then, you know, even still now, like, when I did Dancing with the Stars, I hired a social media team because I knew how important that was. And then the minute it was over, I was like, well, I don't really. What will I make content about now? And so I let them go. And now I just never post.

[Lala Kent]

So it. Social media is my worst enemy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Mine too. Mine too. Do you have a social media team?

[Lala Kent]

I just recently brought one on maybe a couple months ago. And I have imposter syndrome and all of the things that they want me to do that get millions of views, I look at and I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm so embarrassed.

[Danielle Fishel]

People.

[Lala Kent]

People are loving the content, but it just, it's out of my comfort zone.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, I saw one of yours that made me laugh so much where you were doing all of the AI is going to take your job. Oh, it was so funny. So what, whoever you're using, it's working. You look great.

[Lala Kent]

Well, thank you.

[Danielle Fishel]

So keep it up and maybe if you like them, share their information with me.

[Lala Kent]

By the way, he is absolutely fantastic. You would love him. And I love, I, I do love the content. It just, I feel so exposed on social media.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know I'm the same way even when I get an ad for something that I love because I'm very choosy about the things I do ads for. I, I, I'm not the type of, I just have never been able to be the type of person to be like, oh, you're willing to pay me whatever that is, I'll take it and I'll promote whatever your thing is. I really, I'm like, well, what is it? If I don't, if I'm not familiar with it already, please send it to me. Let me use it for a while. Let me tell you. And even when I'm like, I love this thing. Like when I had Adler, I loved the dockat. The dockatot was the docket. I loved my dockatot and I got paid to do an ad for dockatot on Instagram. They were totally fine with the fact that I don't show my kids faces. Everything about it was a perfect partnership. And yet anytime I've ever had to go post an ad, I immediately feel cringe. I'm just like, I can't believe I have to do this. People are going to think this. And yet I love, love the thing I'm advertising totally.

[Lala Kent]

You are so seen.

[Danielle Fishel]

You seen what Is that why? I don't know. We, I just feel so, I don't know what that is.

[Lala Kent]

It's just an internal battle that you have to get over. And it's you, there's nothing you can do to work on it except for you're doing it and it's out there and get over it.

[Danielle Fishel]

And I do love these things. I stand by every single thing. Liquid iv. I freaking love it. I take it every day. My Samsung phone. I've been a Samsung user for 12 years. Like, I don't do ads for things unless I love love them. So why do I feel bad telling people when I love something?

[Lala Kent]

I know it's probably because at the end you have to like direct people to a link. And then you lost me. I'm like, now I feel like. And you know the comment section can get to you.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, it's true. It's true. I think also it comes back to my somewhere. For me, it's asking anybody for anything ever makes me feel worthless. And that's it. That's not a good way to feel like, we need community, we need help. It takes a village. All the things I know and would say to other people, but when it comes to myself, I think I am supposed to be fully autonomous and a one woman show. And if I don't do every single thing myself, then I'm somehow failure failing, or I'm draining resources that other people could be spending doing something else. And so even though I'm just telling you I like this brand, this brand has made my life better. It feels like I'm asking people for something. And. And I think it goes back to that.

[Lala Kent]

That would make total sense.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Thank you for working that out with me.

[Lala Kent]

You're welcome. I'm always here to listen to you. I feel that way with men. I'm like, I don't need you to buy me anything. Don't take me to dinner. You don't need to call my Uber because I don't want to owe you anything.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right, Right. Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

So it sounds like we both have our issues.

[Danielle Fishel]

We both have some issues. But, you know, maybe if we just talk more. We need to. We need to make this a regular, a weekly thing.

[Lala Kent]

I love it.

[Danielle Fishel]

So now you are hosting an unlikely affair alongside Amber Childers, someone who was wildly entangled in your past relationship. Have you always been able to mend fences with people? Do you easily forgive?

[Lala Kent]

I don't hold a grudge. I think if a productive conversation is had, I can move on pretty quickly. I don't have any problem taking accountability for my. My part. I know it sounds so cheesy because people say it all the time. I know I am not perfect. I am a lot to handle. I can be a loose cannon, which I'm working on. But I never understood that saying, I'll forgive, but I'll never forget. I'm like, well, that's. What's the point of forgiving then if you're just gonna remember the whole time? So I. I forget, I move on.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love that. And I think again, I'm very similar. Very similar. I love that. I really do. I think the recordkeeping in relationships, by the way, I think you can totally forgive and forget as long as what you're saying is what I've learned about you has shown me that I truly do not want you in my Life in any capacity. I forgive you. I'm no longer going to carry negative energy about you or the situation. But I really want you to say, stay far the hell away from me, and we're not going to be in each other's lives. But if you're going to forgive and then still operate in each other's spheres, you kind of do need to forget, because otherwise 100 side side eyeing the whole time. And that's not. That's not real forgiveness, is it?

[Lala Kent]

Not at all. Not in any capacity. And I'm the same way. If, if, if behaviors have shown me something where I'm like, okay, this experience, I'd be a dumbass to, like, keep you around and pretend we're all good. Like you said, you're a liability. The stakes are very high for me. You stay over there and I'll stay over here. Just pretend like we don't know each other.

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly. I have quite a few of those in my life. And those people. There've been a couple of times those people have reached out and tried to, you know. Hi, I'd like to talk to you about what happened 20 years ago. And. No, we're good. I have worked very hard to forget you exist. I don't need you. I don't need you back here.

[Lala Kent]

And you know what people. I know there's people out there that feel that way about me, right? Where I may have been a toxic presence in their life. And you know what? I apologize, and I wish you all the best. You know, like, there's some people who just aren't meant to be friends.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, you're right.

[Lala Kent]

And there are moments, too, where I've looked at things that have gone south, and I'm like, you know what? I'm not a bad person. You're not a bad person. We're not meant to be. All is good.

[Danielle Fishel]

Absolutely. Isn't that the point of relationships? Figuring that out? Who do we keep? Who do we not keep? Who's for us, who isn't for us? It's the whole point. So nothing wrong with getting to the bottom of it and being like, hey, we're not a match. Yeah, peace out.

[Lala Kent]

Have a great life. No time wasted.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, no time wasted at all. Another thing we have in common is our obsession with new beauty treatments. I am very envious of you, though, because you go out there and try, then report back. Can we talk about. Because I am. I've never had a laser treatment. I'm like, I. I. And I need to.

[Lala Kent]

Danielle, you cannot tell people this. People are going to hate you.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, it's just a ring light. It's just a filter. It's just. I just have good lighting in here. That's, that's all it is. But listen, I, I would love to talk about some of your recent endeavors and what your experiences are with them. Can we talk about Morpheus?

[Lala Kent]

Morpheus? Okay. I've done Morpheus one time and you have to know this. It was after my last boob job.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Lala Kent]

So I was fully under. They did my boobs and they did my chest. You have to have a few treatments. I am a pussy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right? Okay. And it was very painful recovery.

[Lala Kent]

So I didn't feel it. My mom's done it. She was like, that was brutal. And she has a very high pain tolerance. That bitch like passed kidney stones like nobody's business. Right. So I didn't fulfill the rest of the treatments. If you're a gangster and can handle pain, Morpheus is incredible. Especially for like tightening and plumping the skin. I would do it. I wouldn't do it because I'm, I'm

[Danielle Fishel]

not you, but you. Right, Right. Yeah, I, that I was told because I had a consultation with a plastic surgeon a couple of years ago about having a potential mommy makeover when I knew I was done having kids. And I was like, you know, maybe I'll have a little tummy tuck. May all get a little breast lift. And in that consultation, the doctor I was meeting with actually told me that first I should do a boob job because he didn't want to do them at the same time. He was like, don't. The mommy makeover thing, they're better done different, separately.

[Lala Kent]

Get scary.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. And so he had recommended that we try Morpheus before the tummy tuck. So he said, while you're under for the boob job, I can do Morpheus on your stomach to see if it helps tighten any of the loose skin there. And he said, and I would want to do it while you were under because the deeper you're able to go, the better the results are. But it's so painful. You can't. Like you. I wouldn't be able to go that deep if you were just under local, like local anesthetic. And so he, he did say that. And then I thought, but then what do you do for the follow up treatments? You're not going to be put under every time for Morpheus. So that just doesn't seem.

[Lala Kent]

Well, if he's going super deep though, maybe you don't need as many treatments. I, if you end up doing that. I would really like to know how you feel about. Because how many kids do you have?

[Danielle Fishel]

2.

[Lala Kent]

So I don't know if this happened with you. My. And I hate this term, but I'm gonna say it. My.

[Danielle Fishel]

Are you gonna say snapback?

[Lala Kent]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

I hate it. Was it better after the first and gone by the second? Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

Oh, the second. I'm in plank position, girl. I look at my stomach, I'm like, whose 90 year old stomach is this?

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly the same. And I actually just assumed it was because I was. Was much older as a mom. My first I had at 38, which is not young. And my second I had it 40. So I thought, okay, it's because I'm 40, having a kid. But my. After my first, I got my pre pregnancy body back within the year.

[Lala Kent]

Like it never even happened.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like it never was normal. Second, everything's loosey goosey, loosey goosey.

[Lala Kent]

I'm so insecure about it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep.

[Lala Kent]

Because it's. It's when I move a certain way, like I can't be on top of a man. Are you crazy?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah. Forget it. Absolutely.

[Lala Kent]

So that works because here's the thing with the tummy tuck, you run the risk of funky belly button.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. And the belly button that looks like everyone else's belly button. And a scar. Hip to hip.

[Lala Kent]

Yeah. Do the Morpheus. You know what? I have a pre op call for my. I'm getting my boobs redone. It's like reconstructive surgery. Maybe I'll ask them if they can smack my stomach with that morpheus. Maybe I'll be reporting back to you because my boob job is March 16th.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wow. Okay. And now is this your third?

[Lala Kent]

It's my third.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a revision. It's. Okay. Tell me because I don't. I. I'm only thinking about it. Tell me, do you, do you, looking back, do you wish you had ever had your boobs done? Could you imagine a time, could you imagine a world where you're like, yeah, I would absolutely do this a hundred times over to have these results. What's your opinion on the boob job?

[Lala Kent]

Job? I love the boob job.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Lala Kent]

I love the boob job. I wish I wouldn't have gotten them done at the age of 20. I felt like that was completely unnecessary and silly and stupid. But I'm all about the boob job. And they've come so far with the technology as far as like making the implant.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

I say life is short. Get the boob job. Life is short. Get the lips. But you don't need the lips.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, these are mine. But I do. I am definitely at a place post cancer, post two children.

[Lala Kent]

How did I not know that?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. Cancer, 2024. Just fresh out. Breast cancer.

[Lala Kent]

Breast cancer.

[Danielle Fishel]

So I have a. I have a. Two pretty large scars on my right breast where I had two lumpectomies and a lymph node removed. And the lymph node had no cancer in it. But. But it's, you know, you have to have it removed in order to make sure the cancer hasn't spread. And, and then with weight loss and with. With two children who breastfed.

[Lala Kent]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't, I don't recognize what's going on anymore from, you know, chest to below my belly button. No clue. No clue whose body this is. And so I've recently started thinking, I think I would feel significantly better about myself if I had some sort of breast lift and. Or got rid of this extra skin. And yet I struggle very much with the idea that that is also a little bit insane. Like, my husband is not looking at me, saying to me, you hideous beast.

[Lala Kent]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

I. I am only saying that to myself. And, like, that's probably coming from a really unhealthy, not evolved part of my brain.

[Lala Kent]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

And my personality that I would probably be better working on in therapy and also like it. How often is anyone going to see that? Like, I do think, well, it would be cute if I could, like, wear a cute little crop top every now and then, but I would never. Right now. I wouldn't be caught dead in a crop top with my loose stomach or in a two piece. And yet I'm taking my kids on a wonderful vacation for spring break. And I think, look at all these cute two pieces. They're cute on other people, but they wouldn't be cute on me. I. So then I struggle because I'm like, maybe this is more of a therapy thing than a surgery thing. But I do know I would feel better if I had the surgery.

[Lala Kent]

All right. You're not gonna like what I have to say. Number one, I'm so grateful you're okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Yes. Yes. Me too. Thank you.

[Lala Kent]

The second thing I remember going in. So what's happened on my right side is I have. And I always botch it. Capsular contracture.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. Okay. So when you. There's certain positions you make and it looks. You can. Like a muscle is moving in your.

[Lala Kent]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Implant.

[Lala Kent]

But now it's beyond that. And it didn't happen the first two boob jobs. It happened the third or it happened after my second baby because. And they're thinking it has to do with mastitis, where the clogged milk duct that obviously caused some sort of germ and reaction. It's concaved on the side. I go in for my annual booby screening, and she tells me what it is. That's where I first learned what it is. And she said, I have a great doctor for you. Don't go until you're done having kids. And I said, yeah. I mean, I don't need to go anytime soon. Who am I trying to impress? And she goes, you do it for yourself. You don't do it for anybody else. So as much as I think that we can work on with therapy, if you feel that you would feel better with a little nip tuck, you should do that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

Because you have to see yourself naked every day. You know, like you. If your man thinks you're beautiful, that's great, but you have to feel beautiful. We can be told all day long that we are. Bounce back is amazing, and you're gorgeous. We have to feel that way. And if that comes with me getting a little procedure done, then I'm gonna freaking do it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right. Right? No, you're right. You're right. And I. I go back and forth because I also think is, Wouldn't it be great if what I really felt was, yeah, there's a little bit of loose skin, but I made two babies, and who cares? But I don't actually feel that way. What I feel like is, I made two babies. I love my two babies. I'm so grateful for my body that I was able to make those two babies. And now I would like to recognize the body that made those two babies. And I don't recognize.

[Lala Kent]

Totally fair.

[Danielle Fishel]

And yeah. Okay, so thank you. I. I thank you again.

[Lala Kent]

When you get that done and you come to me and you're like, I'm thinking about getting this done in this. Then we go see the therapist. Now there's bigger issues, but right now, I think what you're saying is totally fine.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. All right. Thank you. You're right. But you know what? And knowing me, it probably won't be too long. I'll be like, all right, these nasolabial folds, what do we do? How do we get. How do we get rid of these?

[Lala Kent]

Then we gotta call the therapist.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Yes. Another thing we have in common. This is just me. This interview is me just telling that I've discovered we have in common.

[Lala Kent]

I love it.

[Danielle Fishel]

We are both sneaker heads.

[Lala Kent]

Oh, I love a sneaker, babe.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, me too.

[Lala Kent]

What's your favorite sneaker?

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, so it used to be Jordan ones. That was always. That's my favorite number one favorite silhouette. I think they look great on men, they look great on women. They make so many different, great colorways. They look good under every type of jean. They look great with skirts. They look, they look great with everything. But I've also recently become obsessed with the Jordan 4. It's another one of my absolute favorite silhouettes. And I love some of the colorways they've done. I have the orchids, I have the bricks, and I love them. So have you always been into shoes, specifically sneakers, or is that something that you've evolved into?

[Lala Kent]

I think I evolved into it. I was a big heel girl for a very long time, and then after my babies, I was like, what am I doing? I want to be comfortable. I want to feel cozy. Yes. I just want my closet full of different sneakers because like you said, I could wear it with a dress, a skirt, sweatpants, jeans. I love them same.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's exactly my journey. I was a heel, almost exclusive. I mean, even during the day to run errands, I had a heel on. Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

What is that?

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't know. It's called being in your 20s, I guess. And then in my late 30s, after having kids, I was like, what are we doing? And I always had like, I had some Converse and in high school I had Converse and you know, I've just in general loved shoes, but boy, it. Before I like became just sneakers, I was all about the heels.

[Lala Kent]

You and me both.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

Wow.

[Danielle Fishel]

I. I really do love this new phase. And the thing that I love is that all of the feelings I got about like self expression from heels because of the different colors and, oh, this one's patent and this one has a T strap and all of those. I get all those same things with sneakers.

[Lala Kent]

Oh, you and me both. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm like, what was I ever missing? I don't know. It's just they're. They're perfect. You have two beautiful children.

[Lala Kent]

You have two girls.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, you have two girls?

[Lala Kent]

I have two girls.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought you had a son and a daughter. Oh, that's funny.

[Lala Kent]

I have kind of boy names, though. I have Ocean, who's my five year old. She'll be five next month. And so is a year and a half. Both girls.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, both girls. What are they into? What are their current interests at five and one and a half?

[Lala Kent]

Oh, Ocean is just the girliest of girls. I had to wipe her face clean because she put on makeup. And I said, you cannot wear makeup to school. Why? Mom? You're four. And she was, I'm going to be five next month. I was like, still too young. You're not wearing makeup to school. Changes a million times a day, goes through my closet, says, will you save this for me for when I get older? I really want this. And Sosa is just kind of mimicking right now. Okay, so if she sees Ocean playing dress up, she wants to play dress up. If she sees Mommy putting on makeup, she wants to put on the makeup.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

So it'll be. They're so different, though. I can already tell that they're going to be very different. Ocean's very independent. Not much phases her. Sosa gets her feelings hurt if you look at her wrong.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Lala Kent]

It's intense. You think you've conquered the art of motherhood. Like, I'm crushing this, this. And then the second one comes and you go, this is going to take a new set of skills.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, yes. And. And. And my. My mom was very good about that growing up. My brother and I are very different, and she had to mother us very differently. And so she always said that. So thankfully for me, it wasn't totally shocking because she had said, like, you, whatever your first one is, don't think that's going to be the only type you're going to have. Your second's going to throw you for a loop. And sure enough, my boys are exactly the same. They're very different. Adler is a totally. Adler is a jock and into all things athletic and sports, and he wants to play with us or with a friend. He's incredibly social. And then Keaton is like, I'm good. I'm good on my own. I'm good to play by myself now.

[Lala Kent]

Keaton's the younger one.

[Danielle Fishel]

Keaton's the younger one. Yeah. And so, yeah, just totally different. I have to parent them differently. And it's. It is pretty wild.

[Lala Kent]

I know, because I'm like, you can't. Well, for you, they came from the same person. For me, anytime Ocean does something I don't like, I'm like, you got that from your dad.

[Danielle Fishel]

I still do that. And we're. We're married. But listen, if there's something I don't like, it's not for me. No.

[Lala Kent]

All the perfect things come from me. Exactly.

[Wells Adams]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Today, I want to ask you. You are on Bravo's hit show the Valley. I have been a Valley girl since middle school. Could you give me some of your hidden gems you found in the 818?

[Lala Kent]

Oh, I don't know if this is a hidden gem, but I'm absolutely obsessed with it. It's. It's little Izakaya.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Lala Kent]

On Sepulveda, and it's like, you would think that this strip center is, like, there's nothing there. Yeah, right. But that it is a hidden gem, because every time I talk to anyone about it, like, yeah, there's a specific niche. Right. There's a specific group who knows about it, and they lunch there on their break. Any of my friends, though, they're like, I drove past, and it was like, I didn't want to go in. I'm like, you got to go through. You got to go.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lala Kent]

Do you know that you know it, obviously?

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, I know of it, but I don't think. I don't even know if I've ever been there.

[Lala Kent]

Oh, girl, you gotta go.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Lala Kent]

Yes, I. I will. I'm bad at north, south, east, and west.

[Danielle Fishel]

Is it. It's not where the movie theater is? Right where the Arc light used to be. It's not in that center?

[Lala Kent]

No. So I think it's south.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Lala Kent]

South of. Does that make sense? South Ventura or descent venture.

[Danielle Fishel]

South would be. Yeah. You could be, like, towards bh. Yes, correct.

[Lala Kent]

So it's South Aventura. Right. On Sepulveda.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Lala Kent]

And you literally drive by, and you're like, what in the world? There's no way any of those restaurants are open. They're all open and they're all popping.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, good to know. I like that. Now we're gonna blow up sushi. It's. It's sushi.

[Lala Kent]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Lala Kent]

Fabulous.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, great. I know you have been open about relationships in the past, but you have kept some of your more recent moves quiet. Are we looking at 2026 as a year of a possible public romance for you?

[Lala Kent]

I think I'm gonna find my person this year.

[Danielle Fishel]

You do?

[Lala Kent]

I do. I feel.

[Danielle Fishel]

Why? You just feel it?

[Lala Kent]

I just feel it. I feel like I talked to the universe on New Year's Day and I sat outside of my house in Palm Springs and I just said, like, I am open to others, anything and everything that you want to bring to me. I said, there is no conversation that is too difficult to have. There's no roadblock that I. That I can't get over and that I haven't faced before. And I said, and I want you to know I've, I've told you I don't want a person and I am okay being solo and I'm letting you know that I'm actually very open to finding my person. So I just. I just feel that way.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love that. Well, as I mentioned at the very beginning of this podcast, you know, we're in the middle of an eclipse. So now you should have another conversation with the universe and you should write what it is you want as if you already have it now.

[Lala Kent]

Oh.

[Danielle Fishel]

So. Because now is in the middle of an eclipse is a time of massive transformation and change, specifically around relationships.

[Lala Kent]

My mind was blown. I'm like, like a dead person. I'm doing that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. So you have. It ends March 3rd. So between now and March 3rd, you write down the things that you want, but as if you already have them. I have a love that that is this. I have a relationship that this. That inspire. It brings out the best in me where I bring out the best in them. All the things you want, write it as if you have it.

[Lala Kent]

Okay, done. I'll do it. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited. That's gonna be what I do tonight.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh my gosh.

[Lala Kent]

This is so fun.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm not done yet with Lala. Far from it. Actually, this Friday we have a bonus episode where I will learn even more about Lala and we'll hear one of your embarrassing teenage stories sent in via voice memo. Make sure you've subscribed to the Teen Beat feed wherever you get your podcasts so that way you won't miss an episode. And while you're at it, check out Lala Kent and her slate of podcasts. Untraditionally Lala and an Unlikely Affair. Plus, you can share your own tales of childhood cringe with me. Just send a radio ready voice memo to teen teenbeatpodmail.com and buckle up. You may just hear it in a future episode. Teen Beat is an Iheart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fishel, executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Sudbaksh. The theme song is by Mark Hoppus. Yes, that Mark Hoppus. Follow us on instagrambeatpod.

[Lala Kent]

Take me. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.