More Time With: Lauren Lapkus

Summary

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Teen Beat with Danielle Fishel

Episode: More Time With: Lauren Lapkus

Guest: Lauren Lapkus
Date: June 26, 2026
Host: Danielle Fishel

Episode Overview

This episode of Teen Beat features comedian and actress Lauren Lapkus joining Danielle Fishel for a vibrant, nostalgic, and honest conversation about childhood, parenting, fashion faux pas, generational humor, family trips, collections, and the evolution of confidence. Together, they revisit formative adolescent moments, laugh over their experiences as parents, and wrestle with how pop culture, social media, and even their own careers now shape the upbringing of their kids.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Embarrassing Childhood Stories

[04:05] Listener Story – Diner Debacle

• Rachel from Omaha shares a mortifying teenage memory about her dad’s dentures falling into his mashed potatoes during lunch in front of a cute boy.
• Lauren and Danielle reflect on moments when they found their own parents embarrassing—or not.

[05:32] Parental Embarrassment

• Both Lauren and Danielle admit they rarely found their own parents embarrassing as kids, but anticipate that their children probably will feel differently about them.

"I remember telling them to stop and shut up. And I don't know what they were doing, actually. I'm sure they were fine, but no. Yeah, I don't really remember them embarrassing me too much, which is pretty good." — Lauren Lapkus [05:32]

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2. Explaining Showbiz Careers to Kids

[06:02] Making Sense of Mom’s Job

• Both discuss how their kids perceive their entertainment industry jobs.
• Danielle finds it easier now that her career is multifaceted—hosting, directing, acting.

"There isn't just one thing Mommy does for work… I can send [my son] videos of the different sets that we're on." — Danielle Fishel [06:22]

• Lauren shares how her daughter visited set and wondered: “Are you pretending like that's pretend?”

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3. The Ambitions and Fashion of Parent & Child

[09:45] Will Our Kids Find Us Cool?

• Both moms debate whether it’s possible to ever be seen as stylish by your own children.

"I wish my kids trusted that I had good style… I buy very cool clothes for my kids." — Danielle Fishel [09:45]

• Neither’s children embrace the fashionable clothes they buy; character or plain items always win.

[10:33] Shifting Tastes

• Danielle tries to keep up with her son’s evolving preferences—eventually, even “cool” generic swim shorts are rejected.
• The comedy in misreading kids' tastes: “You don't understand me!”

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4. Collections and Nostalgia

[18:52] Childhood Collections

• Lauren fondly recalls her collection of Sunny Angels dolls, unique pencils, and novelty soaps—all kept as prized possessions even into adulthood.

“I want. I love my Sunny Angels. I have hundreds of Sunny Angels, which are amazing. I still collect those to this day. And my kids try to play with them. And I'm like, again, this is not [a] toy. I want these.” — Lauren Lapkus [18:52]

• Danielle swaps stories of childhood journaling and now emails funny or meaningful moments to her kids’ personal accounts to preserve memories.

[21:54] Capturing Voices

• The importance of leaving voice memos as family keepsakes is discussed, echoing nostalgia for voicemails from grandparents.

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5. Mall Culture & Scented Memories

[22:49] Hanging at the Mall

• Reminiscing about being dropped at the mall as teens, shopping, and key scents like Bath & Body Works’ Cucumber Melon and Vanilla bringing back vivid teenage memories.

“Cucumber melon. That still reminds me of that time in my life.” — Lauren Lapkus [23:12]

• A hilarious tangent about Bath & Body Works, childhood friends’ signature scents, and listening to Sublime instantly transposing Danielle to summers with friends.

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6. Aging, Nostalgia, and Confidence

[24:58] The Music of Youth

• Both admit drifting towards 90s/00s nostalgia playlists as adults and realizing this is an “aging” milestone.
• Shared longing for pre-algorithmic radio and the collective music experiences of MTV.

“Now that I'm 40... I've started really listening to the music from, like, that time period, and it's kind of all I want to listen to... This is how people get old.” — Lauren Lapkus [24:58]

[26:41] What’s Changed Since Teenage Years

• Both feel a huge boost in confidence and comfort in their own skin compared to their teens.

“My confidence is so much better... I know I'm a good person and, like, I'm nice and I'm curious about people and, like, I don't have to be self-conscious in any situation.” — Lauren Lapkus [26:51]

• Improv had a big impact on Lauren: learning to move on from mistakes and accept imperfections.

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7. Parenting in the Age of Social Media

[33:26] Fears for the Next Generation

• Danielle brings up the anxiety of raising kids in a social media world. Lauren shares that she intends to withhold social media as long as possible:

“I don't want that to even exist. I think... I will not let them have it until I feel like 18.” — Lauren Lapkus [33:33]

• Lauren recounts her own experience with online bullying on AOL in middle school, including a mystery tormentor, “Silly Willy 7”, and the emotional impact.

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8. Family Aspirations & Travel to Japan

[35:34] Dreaming Big—Japan Family Trip

• Danielle proposes a future family trip to Japan with Lauren’s family.
• Lauren describes her love for the country: its peace, cleanliness, love of character culture, and food. They both agree on the joys and challenges of traveling with young children and vow to plan for a trip in two years.

“It's so quiet. That's one thing I really love about it. It's, like, unexpected to me... The culture is amazing... I just always have loved those things.” — Lauren Lapkus [37:15]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I know most people are surprised to learn what OCD really is because pop culture has spread the idea that it's just about being super neat and organized, but that's not accurate at all.” — Danielle Fishel [11:43]
• “I buy them, like, wide leg pants, like, really cute... They will not. Nothing that is, like, cool at all.” — Lauren Lapkus [09:50]
• “When I was growing up... we could watch anything, and I'm fine. So I watched 90210, and I was, like, five.” — Lauren Lapkus [17:40]
• “We were all united in like, bring us the new music this week.” — Danielle Fishel [25:35]
• “You don't understand me. You don't understand and I'm like, I actually thought, I really did.” — Lauren Lapkus [11:20]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:05] Listener’s embarrassing story (Rachel, diner incident)
• [05:32] Parental embarrassment reflections
• [06:02] Explaining showbiz careers to kids
• [09:45] Kids' fashion resistance and preferences
• [18:52] Lauren’s childhood collections and their significance
• [22:49] Mall culture, scent memories, and collecting
• [24:58] Music nostalgia and the role of aging
• [26:41] Building confidence since teenage years
• [33:26] Parenting and fears around social media, Lauren’s AOL bullying story
• [35:34] Dreaming of a family Japan trip & the joys of Japanese culture

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Final Thoughts

This episode delivers a warm, funny, and insightful trip through Lauren Lapkus’ and Danielle Fishel’s formative years, contrasting their adolescent anxieties with the realities and humor of modern parenting. From mall haunts to uncovering the truth about online bullies, to dreaming of future trips, it’s a vibrant mix of generational reflection, pop nostalgia, and heartwarming honesty—peppered with plenty of laughs.

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Transcript

[Lauren Lapkus]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Cal Penn]

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[Danielle Fishel]

So good.

[Cal Penn]

Your bill, ladies.

[Danielle Fishel]

I got it.

[Lauren Lapkus]

No, I got it. Seriously, I insist. I insisted first. Don't be silly. You don't be silly.

[Cal Penn]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Rock, paper, scissors for it.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot.

[Cal Penn]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Cal Penn]

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[Lauren Lapkus]

Give me money for cigarettes I'll never

[Danielle Fishel]

leave your filthy bed.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I stay the night and one night be came two or three years the kids are not all right but that's okay cuz no one here is take me.

[Danielle Fishel]

Every week I ask my listeners, the residents of Beat street, if you will, to send in their own embarrassing stories from childhood in hopes that it will make us feel less alone and put in shame. This week we hear about a diner debacle from Rachel.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Hello, everyone. My name is Rachel. I'm 42 years old from Omaha, Nebraska. When I was a teenager, I was out to lunch with my dad at a really small diner. And in a small town in Iowa, across the room, there was a really cute boy sitting directly across from me. We kept making eye contact. He started smiling and then eventually was winking at me. I was already mortified because I was there with my dad. So I told him, do not turn around. Please do not embarrass me. Now, there's an important detail you must know. My dad has had fake teeth for almost his entire life, since he was a child. So we're eating lunch, everything's going fine, and then suddenly, without warning, my dad's entire top row of teeth just falls out of his mouth straight into his mashed potatoes. Mashed potatoes splash all over the table. I watched it happen in slow motion. The boy watched it happen in slow motion. There's no recovery from that. And I never saw that boy again.

[Danielle Fishel]

Aw.

[Lauren Lapkus]

That's cut.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lauren Lapkus]

That's so funny. That's crazy.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought it was gonna be soup. I feel like, oh, I thought he

[Lauren Lapkus]

was gonna take him out and go like, hey, yeah, I know.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought for sure it was gonna be something he purposefully did to embarrass her. Did you feel like your parents were embarrassing when you were a kid?

[Lauren Lapkus]

I remember telling them to stop and shut up. And I don't know what they were doing, actually. I'm sure they were fine, but no. Yeah, I don't really remember them embarrassing me too much, which is pretty good.

[Danielle Fishel]

It is good.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah. Were yours. No.

[Danielle Fishel]

I didn't think my parents Were embarrassing. I actually thought my parents were really cool.

[Lauren Lapkus]

That's good.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, it's great. I mean, I. My kids are not going to feel that way about me. I just know.

[Lauren Lapkus]

It's the thing. It's so weird. I mean, I. I don't know what. I don't know how they're going to perceive. I feel weird about, like, what I do with what my kids.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Like, think of the world and stuff. And so that's, like, something I try to. I'm trying to figure out, like, how do you explain this? And, like, I don't know. It's a weird job. Like, she's come to set and she really enjoyed it and had a great time. Then I was like, ash. And then she was like, I wanna be an actor. And I was like, and here we are.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep, yep. I know.

[Lauren Lapkus]

But also, if she wants to. And she's good. That's. I mean, you know.

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly.

[Lauren Lapkus]

That's the thing.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know Adler has started to. It's a little better now. I think I'm grateful that I waited to have kids until the industry and my career was in a place where I do so many different things.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

And that there isn't just one thing Mommy does for work. Because if, say, I were still on something like Boy Meets World, and my job was mostly of actor.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I think it would be harder for me to explain it to him because he does wonder, like, why do some. Why do people want to take pictures with you? And I tell him, well, because, remember, Mommy was on a TV show. So as far as they're concerned, I was in their house, I was on their television in their own home. They feel like they grew up with me. And so that's a good way to explain it. They want to take a picture with me because they feel like they know me because I was on their TV screen. And he's like, right, okay. But then he also gets to see me direct. So when I go to sets, and now I'm a director, I take videos of the different sets that we're on. I'm like, and this is what's happening in this scene. And I can send that to him. He also knows I host podcasts, so I get to talk and, like, share my opinions on things for a living. So I'm. There's so many things we do.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah, yeah. It's true. Because, I mean, when I go, like, okay, I'm gonna go do a show tonight. I'm gonna go make people laugh at an audience or whatever, and it's like, that's different than what I'm doing when I'm pretending to be this character. And I showed her, like, a bit of the new show that I'm doing, and she was like. She had come to set, so I was, like, wanting to show her. And she was like, are you pretending like that's pretend? Because there's, like, some, like, kind of intense things. And she's like, let's pretend. Right? I'm like, oh, no. But it's all pretend. Like, remember how you saw us? So it's kind of helpful to, like, bring her, to let her see that we're just kidding. And we're just, you know, in between these moments, we're just standing around talking.

[Danielle Fishel]

But it's also good if you show something to them that's a little scary or. Cause Adler, that was something I was very much. I was like, we could pause and I could go. You know how Mommy directs direct stuff? Yeah. There was a director who was telling them to act this way, and there was. And so all of everything you're seeing is fake. It's all fake. It's makeup, it's this, it's that, and it's. It actually goes a long way.

[Lauren Lapkus]

But I walk a fine line with that because I sort of enjoy how I didn't understand that at all as a kid. And so I'm like, you know, we'll hear, like, we're watching a cartoon with her, and we're like, oh, that's our friend. And I'm like. I'm like, don't tell her that that's our. That's her friend. Like, that's so weird to be like, that's our friend doing that. Like, no, no. It's just the character, like, Right. I don't know. It's weird.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, you're right. And there have been moments that even with wrestling, because my kids are very into wr, where I feel a little like the. The mystique is gone. Because they're like, mom, it's your friend.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Right?

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, no, that's World Wrestling Champion. You know, like, yes, it is.

[Lauren Lapkus]

But also, he is my friend. But I won't deny it.

[Danielle Fishel]

You and your husband, Mike Castle, are both universally considered funny people. And your kids will probably think you're painfully unfunny, but right now, they do think you're very funny. I'm assuming. Do you plan to be embarrassing on to your kids? Do you want to.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I don't want to be embarrassed.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't either.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I don't want to. I want to be Chill.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I'm sure I will be embarrassing just by the fact that I'm how I am. And I'm sure I'll say something weird or too. I don't know. So, I mean, I can't even predict how it'll come to pass.

[Danielle Fishel]

But, you know, some parents really do want to, like. Yeah, I don't want.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I don't want them to be upset from something I'm doing on purpose. Like. Exactly. No.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Yeah. I don't want. I don't know. I can't even. I can't even imagine wanting to. Wanting to do that. I wish my kids trusted that I had good style.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Because I buy very cool clothes for my kids.

[Lauren Lapkus]

My kids won't wear any of the cool stuff that I wear. That I buy. That I buy them. I buy them, like wide leg pants, like, really cute. Like where. I love when little kids wear this stuff. I think it's like the cutest thing ever. They will not. Nothing that is, like, cool at all.

[Danielle Fishel]

Nothing. Nothing fashionable.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Nothing fashionable. So I try to lean into, like, the characters they like and just get them whatever characters, because I just. Then they'll be excited about it. But anything I bought, anything I spend money on or go out of my way to get, like, even like, things that aren't that expensive, but like Zara or something, I'm like, that's so cute. It's all. Just has the tags on, it's never worn. And then I give it to somebody else and hope that they get to

[Danielle Fishel]

wear it and hope that they will. Their kids will wear it. I know. It drives me insane. Adler recently decided to. He no longer wants character underwear.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Oh.

[Danielle Fishel]

He wants blank underwear like grownups wear.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

And I said, all right, got it. I wrongly assumed that that would translate into bathing suit shorts.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

That the Pokemon bathing suit shorts.

[Lauren Lapkus]

That's not cool anymore.

[Danielle Fishel]

Out. Like, Pokemon underwear is out.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So I bought him generic, just like stripes. Cool. You know, just normal bathing suit shorts. And then I handed him a pair today. And I was like, here you go. Cause he's going to camp. And he's like, what, these? What are these?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Oh.

[Danielle Fishel]

And I was like, they're. They're like shorts like daddy would wear, you know, like the same way you wanted underwear. And he was like, I don't want to wear these. I don't like stripes. Stripes aren't my thing. And I was like, oh, my God.

[Lauren Lapkus]

But see, those moments are so funny to me because they're like, you don't understand me.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

You don't understand and I'm like, I actually thought, I really did.

[Danielle Fishel]

I really took what you said and extrapolated and apparently I tried to go

[Lauren Lapkus]

above and beyond correct.

[Danielle Fishel]

He then put on his Pokemon bathing suit. So what is this?

[Lauren Lapkus]

No.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know most people are surprised to learn what OCD really is because pop culture has spread the idea that it's just about being super neat and organized, but that's not accurate at all. My husband has OCD and I can tell you it is so much more than that. Real OCD is a serious condition where you get unwanted, distressing thoughts called intrusive thoughts. They're stuck on repeat in your mind, often focusing on people or things we care about like relationships, identity or character, making them hard to ignore. And then you feel driven to do certain behaviors called compulsions to try to make the anxiety stop. This obsession and undying desire to make it go away can completely derail you for decades. Jensen ruined his own life and the happiness of those around him purely because he couldn't make the repeated worry go away. But he'd eventually learn it doesn't have to be that way because OCD is one of the most treatable mental health conditions once you get the right kind of specialized therapy. OCD needs ERP therapy. That's exposure and response prevention, which has proven to be the most effective treatment. Regular talk therapy isn't recommended and can actually make OCD worse. NOCD is the world's leading OCD treatment provider and all of their licensed therapists specialize in ERP therapy with NOCD is 100% virtual, covered by insurance for over 138 million Americans and includes support between sessions so you never have to face OCD alone. To learn more about starting OCD therapy with no CD, click go to nocd.com and book a free call with their team. That's no c d.com hello, it's Danielle Fishel and I am here to talk treats. I take em serious and as you know they can make or break a day. Whether you're looking for something on a hot afternoon, an after dinner treat, or just a little moment to make the day feel special, Johnny Pop's is such an easy family favorite. Johnny Pops frozen treats are deliciously made with simple ingredients and no artificial dyes, which means I love sharing them with my four and six year olds. And the flavor options run the gamut. Organic rainbow fruit stacks, chocolate fudge minis, chocolate dipped strawberry, organic cotton candy, unicorn twist and even some no sugar added options. And one of my favorite things about Johnny Pops is that not only are they delicious, they're full of joy. Every stick has a kind deed printed on it, and that small moment can turn snack time into a little reminder that kindness is king. Johnny Pops are available in all your favorite stores. To find the store nearest you, Visit j o n n y p o p s.com Johnny Pops A better pop for a better world.

[Cal Penn]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Wasn't that delicious?

[Lauren Lapkus]

So good.

[Cal Penn]

Your bill, ladies.

[Danielle Fishel]

I got it.

[Lauren Lapkus]

No, I got it. Seriously, I insist. I insisted first. Oh, don't be silly. You don't be silly.

[Cal Penn]

People with the Wells Fargo Active Cash credit card prefer to pay because they earn unlimited 2% cash rewards on purchases.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Rock, paper, scissors for it.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot.

[Danielle Fishel]

No.

[Cal Penn]

The Wells Fargo Active Cash credit card. Visit Wells Fargo.com ActiveCash Terms apply.

[Danielle Fishel]

Is there anything else like that you've tried to get your kids into that they just don't connect with, other than fashion? Like, have you ever tried to guide them into a hobby?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah, I think we're getting into that a little bit where, like, there's certain shows, like, we want them to watch things that are. That we can enjoy a little more.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Lauren Lapkus]

And Mike put on Bob's Burgers.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Lauren Lapkus]

She was loving, but it's got such adult jokes that we were like, you don't really think about it when you're watching it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Lauren Lapkus]

And then we were like, oh, my God, everything. I'm like, don't try to explain that. Like, that's not good. So that's tough because we let. I let her watch a lot of what she wants to watch, but I try to. Like, the one thing I'm trying to get her away from, which is really hard to do, is, like, that animation from, like, 2007, where it's like, they. Everyone first got a computer or something, right?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

And it's just like, I hate how it looks, and usually it's not very good, like, in general. And she will get very addicted to some of those shows. And I'm like, you know, mama doesn't like this one.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, I don't like these.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah. And then I still can't. I have a hard time really turning it off.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Lauren Lapkus]

You know, I let. I just let it happen.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. You're like, I don't like it, but maybe next time I'll just make a different choice.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think when I was growing up, like, we could watch anything, and I'm fine. So I watched Nanotuo, and I was, like, five, Right. I remember kissing the TV when I saw Brandon. Oh, my gosh.

[Danielle Fishel]

Did you get a static shock?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Oh, I feel like. Yeah, totally remember that. Oh, my God, yes. But I remember doing that, and my mom was never in the room. I was always watching 902. And I'm like, yeah, like, whatever. I had all the dolls.

[Danielle Fishel]

Famously not allowed to watch 902, and even in junior high.

[Lauren Lapkus]

So, I mean, it wasn't good information that I was. But what I'm talking about. Look at both of us.

[Cal Penn]

We both.

[Danielle Fishel]

It doesn't. So it doesn't matter.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I had my godfather, who owned some Burger King franchises, which is an aside. But it was cool because I would always get the coolest toys. I got all the Simpsons dolls when they had those plushie. I still have, of course, Maggie, but he. He got me. He would always buy me the most of whatever the thing was. So, like, I got all the 902 and O dolls for one Christmas, you know, and it was. I. I still have Brenda and Dylan. Oh, my God, they have no clothes. And I really need to figure this out.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, now we know what you were learning.

[Lauren Lapkus]

They were doing that maybe that's why

[Danielle Fishel]

you collect those little naked baby dolls.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I want. I love my Sunny Angels. I have hundreds of Sunny Angels, which are amazing. I still collect those to this day. And my kids try to play with them. And I'm like, again, this is not toy. I want these. I want a display case. Do I need, like, a really good. Do you.

[Danielle Fishel]

Have you thought about a safe. Safe for your semi angels?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Right now they're in a mixing bowl in a closet. It's not ideal.

[Danielle Fishel]

I was like, yeah, you know what? Maybe you need. What if you got them all individual, like, Funko style loose sight cases? Do you think they make them?

[Lauren Lapkus]

I probably. I kind of want one long thing where they can all be standing much like my display that I had when I was a kid.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Something else you can bring back home. Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

When you bring them little, like, sticky stuff and make them all stand up, that would be really fun. Yeah. With gravel

[Danielle Fishel]

for you.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Like your unique pencils. I kept those for a long time too. I kept a collection of soaps forever. And I. I actually recently got rid of them because they'd all shrunk down to like.

[Danielle Fishel]

Why does soap shrink?

[Lauren Lapkus]

I don't know. It like dehydrates. They were all different shapes. Like, I had, like, you know, animals. And how you get that? That's my soap collection.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

And that. And I have that furniture still. So that was pretty recently that I got rid of them. But yeah, they.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah, I had Mickey Mouse. That was a really good one.

[Danielle Fishel]

That was that one that top left.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah, that little. Now there was a sheep that I just loved so much. It smelled so good.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love the fish right in the center.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah. I. I would put them in this box. I had this, like, special Ral Lauren box that said Lauren on it that had, like. It was like a oval. Like a brown oval box with, like, a ribbon that. And I kept my soaps. They're each wrapped in individual tissue. And then I would take them out and smell them and look at them. I loved them. I love looking at that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Look at that.

[Lauren Lapkus]

That's good. If you send me that, I don't know where that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Man, you have some great. You have great collection stories.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

You made me feel like I should collect things.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I think I probably have more that I'm not even remembering right now. I mean, I had journals that was. I journaled all my life, and I have all my journals that's so special. They're. They're good stuff.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

A lot of times I would journal and this probably. I probably did have OCD and would still have it, but I would write down what I did that day. More than, like, feelings.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's what I thought journals were for.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Today I went to school. I did my homework. My mom and I got in a fight. Yes.

[Lauren Lapkus]

It was just like, I wish I wrote more, like, what I was feeling or, like, weird things that happened because it's. It's not as, like, interesting to look back at, but I like having them.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's so great. Yeah. I send my kids emails. I got them their email addresses, their names, and then I. Whenever one of them says something really funny or does something amazing or. Or something just super mundane, but then I know, like, I want to remember this. I will send it to them in an email. And I also started to make it easier sending via email voice notes.

[Lauren Lapkus]

So that is so important. This is going to be the most amazing thing for them when they get older.

[Cal Penn]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So that they have my voice instead of just reading an email. Because I think about the fact that, like, I still have a voicemail from

[Lauren Lapkus]

my grandfather who packaged away all my voicemails from, like, people like. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

And I think, like, I wish I. You know. So anyway, yeah, great, great thing to do to kickstart the journal idea for your kids.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I love I have a little notebook that's like. Like, I write down things that they say, but I don't often remember to do it. I think an email is better because you can just do it when you're on the go.

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly. The minute it happens, you're like, I'm gonna send that in an email. This just happened. Like, little things. They say that, you know, once they go away. Like, Keaton calls a trampoline a bounce a lean. And I like, yeah, that's what it should be called. You are. It should be a bounceline. I think that's so cute. We, as a family, go to the mall every weekend. Did you go to the mall growing up near Chicago? Was that a thing you did as a kid?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yes. My mom loves the mall. My mom and I would go to the mall. My mom all the time. I love shopping now. But, yes, we always went to the mall. And then as a teen, we would get dropped off at the mall and wander around. And our mall was an outdoor mall.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Lauren Lapkus]

So the winter, not great, not so good. But there were times of the year where we would go. Go see a movie or, like, and then walk around or whatever and go shopping. Bath and Body Works.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Cucumber melon. That still reminds me of that time in my life. I remember I went on a school trip. That was a very special trip where I got to go to London and Scotland with, like, my reading club or something. Who knows?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my gosh. That sounds fun.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah, it was really cool. And that's. I actually got an award during the trip for make. Doing an impression of our tour guide. Everyone loved it so much that at the end we were given awards, and mine was for making fun of this poor man.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, you're right. Your teachers were very. They were like, this is a real talent.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I also always did Judge Judy, and they loved that, too.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah. But can we see a little of Judge Judy now?

[Lauren Lapkus]

No, you know what? It was really me at 13.

[Danielle Fishel]

Got it. Okay. Got it.

[Lauren Lapkus]

All right. I haven't tried it since then, and I don't know. Um. But no, that trip. Wait, what was I going to say? There was a point.

[Danielle Fishel]

London and Scotland. You won an award. Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

So we shared a room with other kids from the group, and they were friends of mine or whatever. And this girl had. She brought the cucumber melon. I didn't even ever think to, like, travel with. So I also didn't travel at all. But, like, I didn't think to, like, bring that with me or something.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's a home thing.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah. And it smelled so good, and the room smelled so much like it that it always reminds me of that trip. And it was, like, such a special time.

[Danielle Fishel]

The vanilla. There was a vanilla that Bath and Body Works used to make. That was the signature scent of my dear friend Vanessa Evigan in high school. And Vanessa Evigan's Ford Explorer reeked in the best way possible of vanilla. And every time I smell that vanilla bean scent.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

And I hear sublime, I am instantly in a Ford Explorer driving down Pacific coast highway on my way to Malibu with Vanessa Ev. Again. That was my summer.

[Lauren Lapkus]

That sounds amazing.

[Danielle Fishel]

It was incredible.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I feel like. I don't know if you relate to this, but I feel like at this age of now that I'm 40, I don't know if that's. If it's a nostalgia thing at this age, but I've started really listening to the music from, like, that time period, and it's kind of all I want to listen to. And I love it, and it's making me feel so good. And then I'm like, oh, this is how people get old. And they only listen to that. The Stuff they liked when they were a teenager. Like, oh no, I'm doing it, I'm doing it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Here it is.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I barely know new songs. Like I. They'll get introduced to me. I'm like, oh, that's great. I should have heard that. I'll learn them on, you know, Instagram. And I'm like, how do people know about songs? Like, I don't. Cuz also, I don't listen to the radio.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know, but we also used to have mtv.

[Lauren Lapkus]

We were all united.

[Danielle Fishel]

We were united in like, bring us the new music this week.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yes, I. And I feel, I also, I think listening to the regular radio is good. Like I should do that more because you get. You just get hip to what's going on and getting hip to it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Getting hip to 100. I know, it's not good.

[Lauren Lapkus]

No, but I do like, I like Green Day. I'm like putting back on these.

[Danielle Fishel]

Might I suggest pop rocks on SiriusXM?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Oh, okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's 90s and early 2000s pop rock,

[Lauren Lapkus]

you know, even serious. I used to listen to so much and now I'm so in my phone that it's like, it's not even fun. It's almost like your algorithm knows you so well. They only play. You never hear something unusual on your. On my phone. Like, I'm like, I need to get back into the radio.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, get back into the radio. I enjoy, I enjoy that it like also Adler was in the car with me the other day and I turned on. We were coming back from the doctor and I turned on Pop Rocks and I got to. I was like, this is Blink182 and

[Lauren Lapkus]

you can introduce it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. And he was like, I really like this. I was like, yes. Okay, good. This is fun. This was a fun little experience for us. In what way would you say you are most different from teenage Lauren to now 40 year old Lauren?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Hopefully a good amount of ways, but also probably not that many. I feel like I. My confidence is so much better that I just. I'm like fine with myself.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Where I think then there's so much that you're like grappling with that you're just like, oh my God. Or like I don't know how to talk to a boy. Or like all the things that give you anxiety or me gave me anxiety.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

And I would stress about. I don't feel at all. And I feel like I have improv to thank for so much of that because it was like that that got me at such a young age where it was like, you are gonna look stupid, you're gonna say something that's wrong, and then everyone's gonna forget. Like, it doesn't matter. Like, and moving on as fast as you can from the last thing to the next thing and just, like, letting it go. I still ruminate on things, but I feel like it's that. That difference feels huge to me where I'm like, well, I'm. I know I'm a good person and, like, I'm nice and I'm curious about people and, like, I don't have to be self conscious in any situation.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't have to perform that. It just is who I am. I don't have to perform it and worry that everyone sees it.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. That is, for me, the greatest thing about getting older is, like, it doesn't mean I don't care. No, I care still very much about people and about things. But I can soften to the idea that if someone does not like me, that is okay. Yeah, that's okay. Guess what? I don't like some people too.

[Lauren Lapkus]

That's the thing. That's the thing. It goes both ways. It's okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's okay. It's totally fine. I know most people are surprised to learn what OCD really is because pop culture has spread the idea that it's just about being super neat and organized. But that's not accurate at all. My husband has ocd, and I can tell you it is so much more than that. Real OCD is a serious condition where you get unwanted, distressing thoughts called intrusive thoughts. They're stuck on repeat in your mind, often focusing on people or things we care about, like relationships, identity, or character, making them hard to ignore. And then you feel driven to do certain behaviors called compulsions to try to make the anxiety stop. This obsession and undying desire to make it go away can completely derail you. For decades, Jensen ruined his own life and the happiness of those around him purely because he couldn't make the repeated worry go away. But he'd eventually learn it doesn't have to be that way, because OCD is one of the most treatable mental health conditions. Once you get the right kind of specialized therapy, OCD needs ERP therapy. That's exposure and response prevention, which has proven to be the most effective treatment. Regular talk therapy isn't recommended and can actually make OCD worse. NOCD is the world's leading OCD treatment provider, and all of their licensed Therapists specialize in ERP therapy. With no CD is 100% virtual, covered by insurance for over 138 million Americans and includes support between sessions so you never have to face OCD alone. To learn more about starting OCD therapy with no CD, go to nocd.com and book a free call with their team. That's nocd.com hello, it's Danielle Fishel and I am here to talk treats. I take em serious and as you know, they can make or break a day. Whether you're looking for something on a hot afternoon, an after dinner treat, or just a little moment to make the day feel special, Johnny Pop's is such an easy family favorite. Johnny Pops frozen treats are deliciously made with simple ingredients and no artificial dyes, which means I love sharing them with my four and six year olds. And the flavor options run the gamut. Organic rainbow fruit stacks, chocolate fudge minis, chocolate dipped strawberry, organic cotton candy, unicorn twist, and even some no sugar added options. And one of my favorite things about Johnny Pops is that not only are they delicious, they're full of joy. Every stick has a kind deed printed on it and that small moment can turn snack time into a little reminder that kindness is king. Jonny Pops are available in all your favorite stores. To find the store nearest you, visit J-O-N-N-Y-P-O-P-S.com Johnny Pops a better Pop for a Better World

[Cal Penn]

hey everyone, it's Cal Penn, host of Irsay, The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast I'm sitting down with Divergent author Veronica Roth to talk about her sprawling new novel, Seek the Traitor's Son. It's a sci fi fantasy epic about two protagonists on opposite sides of a war and a prophecy neither of them wanted.

[Lauren Lapkus]

My first book was Divergent and when that came out, like, because it was so popular, I think it attracted like mostly positivity. But the negativity I sucked in like a sponge. And I think it was like critiques of things I liked when I was like, you know, I was 23 and I wrote this book and it had all my like dorky little cheesy or maybe unrealistic loves in it. And I started to feel a lot of shame about those things. And so for the rest of my career I steered away from those little things that like make you feel pleasure when you read. But I also was like saying no to these parts of myself that I then was like, screw it. Yeah, so that's this book.

[Cal Penn]

Listen to Irsay, the Audible and iHeart audiobook club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Why is it always chaos when we link up? Because nobody plans anything, bro. Good thing the Rogue's ready like that for real. Rain, dirt, whatever. Available, all wheel drive, five modes. We still outside. And they got some kick, too. That turbo torque is crazy. The most in its class. It moves.

[Danielle Fishel]

Moves.

[Cal Penn]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Wasn't that delicious?

[Lauren Lapkus]

So good.

[Cal Penn]

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[Danielle Fishel]

I got it.

[Lauren Lapkus]

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[Cal Penn]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Rock, paper, scissors for it.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Rock, paper, scissors, shoot.

[Cal Penn]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Are you. When you're thinking about the future and your kids, are you nervous about social media?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Totally.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I don't want that to even exist. I think it's. I mean, I think I will not let them have it until I feel like 18.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

I think if I had had this when I was that age, that would have been so damaging because we had AOL and we. I got bullied on. Aol.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh.

[Lauren Lapkus]

By people at school. Really? Yes, there were. Oh, my God. So my friends and I would always go. You know, we go to each other's house and sit at the computer and go online. It was a very big event and it was, like, all we wanted to do. And then you see who's signing on and chat with them and, like, there's always, like, the boy you like or just, like, someone you're friends with or whatever. And so you. You're just, like, waiting. And then suddenly, out of nowhere, there was a name we didn't know that was messaging everyone. It was a fake name. I'll say it now. Silly Willy seven. I didn't forget. You think you know I know who you are, too.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do you?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Say it. Well,

[Lauren Lapkus]

we'll believe it.

[Danielle Fishel]

We'll believe it. Wow. What did they say? What did they say?

[Lauren Lapkus]

No, they would be so mean and they bullied a bunch of us, but they would. I was very skinny and they would say I was anorexic. They. I mean, there's things like.

[Danielle Fishel]

That just really means Shaming things to

[Lauren Lapkus]

shame or make fun of, like, my friend for, like, who she had a crush on. But, like, we didn't know who they were, you know? Yeah. So it was very scandalous because it was like we would go on and then we'd be like, oh, my God, are they going to be there? And then they would be. And then they're talking to us and, you know. But you would let it happen? Like, you wouldn't block them? Never. I don't know if you could.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. I don't know if that was.

[Lauren Lapkus]

But, you know, hearing that creaking door from aol.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, I remember that.

[Lauren Lapkus]

It can be a haunting sound.

[Danielle Fishel]

This is a bully. You need to write. You need to write this horror movie.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

The creaky door.

[Lauren Lapkus]

And I'm going to get.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love that silly Willy 7.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah, we now remember.

[Danielle Fishel]

How'd you figure out who they were?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Someone told me years later it was like that kind of thing.

[Danielle Fishel]

That wasn't as good of a story as I was. No, cut that part.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Someone told me and I confronted them. Nothing happened. They got away with it. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my gosh. Speaking of a. Of social media and this is a good content making opportunity that I am just dying to do with you and Mike.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Great.

[Danielle Fishel]

Can we lock in a Japan trip with our families?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Oh, my God. That would be the best thing ever.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm dying to go to Japan. Your husband and you guys are obsessed with Japan. We're obsessed.

[Lauren Lapkus]

And he's going again this summer. And we were going to take the kids, but then we ended up not. He's in a wedding in Japan.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lauren Lapkus]

And so he's like. Was actually going with my dad randomly. Oh, how cute.

[Danielle Fishel]

Your dad is his plus one.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Lauren Lapkus]

My dad's gonna go to Japan with him and then go to the wedding and everything, but. Which my dad's never been there and we wanted him to go. So it was gonna be like a whole big family thing. And then it's gonna be in August. I was like 2 and a 5 year old in August Heat. It's really, really hot there at that time. Okay, we've been there before then. And it's like, kind of unbearable.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Lauren Lapkus]

And I know that they'll just be complaining. I would go there, but, like, they'll just be complaining the whole time. So I want to go when my younger one is like four.

[Danielle Fishel]

Great.

[Lauren Lapkus]

So in like two years if we do that. Listen, do you know how fun that would be? That would be insane.

[Danielle Fishel]

Let's. I am on Board. I know two years in advance is a little too early to start planning something, but let's.

[Lauren Lapkus]

That might be the way to do it.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm all for it. And in two years, I think it'll be perfect because Adler will be almost nine.

[Lauren Lapkus]

That's great.

[Danielle Fishel]

Keaton will be almost seven, and Holly

[Lauren Lapkus]

will be seven, and then Gigi will be four, which I think is old enough to go along.

[Danielle Fishel]

Four is the very earliest time to make that kind of big travel with a kid.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Four is. Four is going to be great. Yeah.

[Lauren Lapkus]

Because I think I want to be the kind of person who just does anything and goes wherever. But I, like, I'm like. Or I'll be so miserable. Like, it's not even fun at all. Like, they'll be screaming and tired and sleeping at the wrong time, and you're

[Danielle Fishel]

gonna be like, it's time for a nap, and I do want to get them to lay down. You don't want to deal with that. Two years is perfect. Okay. What is your favorite thing about Japan?

[Lauren Lapkus]

Oh, my gosh. It's so quiet. That's one thing I really love about it. It's, like, unexpected to me. I didn't know what to expect when I was first going, and, like, it was just so peaceful. It's so clean. It's so. It's all. The culture is amazing. I mean, from. But I think one thing I really enjoy is how much they enjoy, like. Like, anime and. And, like, characters, and they celebrate all that stuff so much. And, like, I just always have loved those things. So it's really fun to go to, like, any adult store and be able to buy, like, cool hello Kitty stuff or whatever you like. I just love that. But everything about it, the food, the people like, everyone's so nice. Like, it was just. We've. We had. We've gone a couple times together in Mike' on a Cup. Now. This will be his second time without me.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hey, man. Mike.

[Lauren Lapkus]

But I want him to go. But it's, like, just the best. We just can't wait to get back. Every time we leave.

[Danielle Fishel]

All right, two years from now, I am in. Are we gonna go? When the cherry blossoms are there? Is that supposed to be, like, a

[Lauren Lapkus]

spring really pretty at that time? It's amazing. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. I'm very, very, very excited. Well, thank you all for listening to Teen Beat. Make sure to watch Lauren on Stuart Fails to Save the Universe starting July 23rd on HBO Max. Even if her kids won't think she's funny, I can promise she is one of the funniest people on this planet. And please send in your embarrassing childhood memories in the form of a voice memo, one to two minutes long. Email it to teenbeatpodmail.com and you could hear it on the show Teen Beat is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fishel, Executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, Executive in charge of production Danielle Romo, Producer and editor Tara Subaksh. The theme song is by Mark Hoppus. Yes, that Mark Hoppus. Follow us on Instagram eenbeatpod.

[Cal Penn]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Cal Penn]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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