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In the fourth judge's chair, it's Shanna Burgess. What's up, everybody? Welcome to another episode of Shanna Burgess. In the fourth chair, I am Shana Burgess. We just had the rock and roll hall of fame theme night on Dancing with with the Stars. And it was a pretty epic night with some incredible dancing. We had flavor, flavors, Judge and I will say that was eventful. That was pretty exciting. Listen, I think we have to accept that when we have celebrity guest judges come on like that that we don't know what to expect and we don't know where it's going to go. And with a personality like Flavor Flav, who I've met a bunch of times on carpets, he knows Brian, you, you, you just simply that you never know what way it's going to go. On the bright side, he pretty much gave everyone nines and tens, so across the board, it just everyone the same amount. And I don't think it had any negative impacting on where everyone was ranked. He was certainly entertaining with his raps that he would throw in the middle of it, but I appreciated it. I really appreciated everything about this. We also saw the team dances tonight for the show, and I really thought everyone did a great job. And, you know, when I heard that it was rock and roll, I was a little bit like, oh, is it going to be good? Because that theme in the past when we'd have Rock Night was sometimes a hit or miss, because not always the songs go with the style that they're doing. But I think the whole team and crew over dancing the stars picked wonderful songs. I thought the costumes were fantastic. It wasn't overly too on the nose. We're going heavy metal or rock or anything in that genre. It just. I felt like it all really blended in beautifully. Let's start off with our first couple, which was Dylan and Danny doing a jive. I thought he did a really good job at this. Listen, I am remaining, like, strong on the fact that I prefer him in these Latin dances to his ballroom dances. But let's get into what the judges said. So Flav said the dance was the proof. I'm not going to go through his whole rhyme, but it was a positive comment. We get into Bruno, he said if he wore his outfit, then no one would have looked at his feet. I can confirm that. That would be a fact. No one would look at his feet if he was wearing that leather outfit. Also love Bruno in that music video. He said the feet were really good, but he just messed up a pass there. There was a couple things, but he said it was absolutely fabulous. And emphasis on the abs, which I think we can all understand where that came from. Yes, there were a couple footwork things. You know, he did a really good job at getting in this jive technique and the proper correct action. Once again, Danny, amazing technician, but there are a couple moments where it just missed a little bit and there was a combination where he missed a bit of the step and then they missed a hand connection. So that's what Bruno is bringing up here. We get to carry in. And she said there's athleticism and grace in dance, and he has that. But they were about three moments where he lost the kicks and the flicks. But it is incredibly impressive how far he's come. I agree. All points, incredibly impressive how far Dylan has come from that very first week that we saw him dance. Danny is doing, we say this all the time, an exceptional job at teaching him the foundations at how to be a dancer. He is taking it seriously. He's been passionate about it. It really is wonderful to watch him go through this experience. Derek said it was a great way to start the show. A fantastic jive. He did lose the kicks and flicks a bit, but an amazing and hard drive. And by hard drive, he means some of that content. Now, not only is it the pattern of the choreography, but Danny didn't take it easy on him on doing the more simple version. You know how when you do a workout or an online workout, there's always the, the low intensity and the high intensity version. So there's also that with jive, with the footwork, you can do the basic version of those combinations with the man, or you can do the, like, ramp it up, extra kicks and flicks and all the sty into it. And Danny and Dylan really did do the ramp it up and getting the styling. He was doing the extra kicks and flicks and the little isms and. And flourishes that you would do as a pro ballroom dancer. And so I really, really appreciated that. It was a hard routine. It's such a bummer that he missed the hand connection and a little bit of the content. And what I will say with, for my notes is my first thing was like, okay, and I loved it. And then I was like, oh, there's little mistakes. I found that his free arms were not styled enough. They don't have enough tension in them. They sort of like they find a place, but they're a little bit unsure if that is their place. You know, they're sort of like half there and half not. And with the arms and so I think stronger choices or leaning into the choices that have been made already because you can see Danny's cleaned it. But just really leaning into those details a little bit more and a little bit stronger. I felt like he had nice dynamics and that is something he was previously lacking earlier in the competition. Yeah, I said here in my notes, it was clear, clean, but it was messy. And that really means they've gone through and done the details, but they are not exaggerated enough, basically for me to see them and to truly understand them. And to see them be crisp. I said that he had really great action, but it went in and out of it. He got a little bit flat footed. That means that when it gets a little bit heavy when you. It loses that bounce, the lightness, basically your heels just kiss the floor. They don't even ever really stay on it unless you're hitting into a line during those bounces and the kicks and flicks and the chassis and the triple steps. Everything should be very, very light on the feet with the heels kissing the floor. He did have lovely nose over toes, I will say that. And his position and the drive was really coming through his core. But it did just get a touch heavy. I also wrote in big shouty capital letters, good lord. Which I'm sure you can all agree and imagine that was the abtastic section in front of the judges table. Highly appreciated. Loved this from them. The judges gave it an 8, 9, 10, 9. I landed on an 8 simply because he had great action. But we did have a few mistakes in there. A missed hand connection. And it did get for me. Another note was a little bit wide in the base. I think because he's tall, that's easily done. He needed to work more to the inside edges of his feet, the inside action of his legs, which is hard to explain in voice, but it's where you feel like there's always a rubber band around your knees pulling your legs together. And everything needed to be just a little bit tighter. But it was a really well done drive. And again, seeing that proper execution with the isms that a true ballroom dancer would do, I like dance geek out over that. And I love it. So I love what they're creating. It was an eight from me. Okay. Getting into Val and Alex. I was giggling at Val and his box braids, which AB Absolutely Jenna did for him. I thought it was actually really cute on him. First word I wrote fire. I thought this was a fantastic dance from her. And I think potentially other than Maleficent, maybe one of my favorite dances of her. Judges, let's go to judges. First, Bruno said the paso doble bombshell. Sexy as hell. Like two predators challenging each other. Now, why that's a great note and I want to stay on it for a second is the paso doble. It sort of is two predators. At some point, it's a matador and a bull. At some point, it's also a matador and a senorita or a matador and a cape. But my coach used to always say to me, never take your eyes off the person that you're dancing with, like, you don't trust them. Like, even when you turn away, you're looking over your shoulder to try and find them. You never, ever take your eyes away for longer than a fraction of a moment when you turn, because you are always trying to see where they're at. Think matador and bull in the arena. And so I really appreciated that comment, and I do feel like we got that from Val and Alex, that real intention, connection, chemistry, intensity between them. So I really appreciated that. Carrie Anne said, you are in your fierce girl era. Heck, yes, she is. She set the standard for the three Passos that were coming for the night. Was strong, and it was grounded, and she was raving about this like Carrie Ann was going on. Loved it. And she said, people don't understand. The boots, the heels, the skirt, all of it can throw you off. And it was just amazing. She did a really good job at it. She's right. Like, those things are because just because Alex made it look easy and cohesive, it does not mean that that was easy. That that is a lot to manage. The hair flying around, trying to get the skirt moving. If you don't do it right, it gets all weird. Like, there's a whole world of things that are happening in there that she managed really, really well. Derek said, amazing ro roll goddess. And she was just so in control, which you could see that she felt very much in control of her movement. And Flav said, you know what I'm saying, About three times. And then he said the timing was great, which I felt her timing was great, except for one tiny moment. So what I said, amazing content, absolutely fabulous routine, and true to the style. I really appreciated that from Val. Her shaping was stunning. Now, Pasado, Blake, you have a higher center. You feel like you're. Your hips are forward and your center is higher, and you are trying to be as tall as you can, but you definitely have that bit of a curve in your back with your hips being more forward. You are not necessarily nose over toes in this. You are much more like pelvis over toes, if you want to think of it that way. And it's the idea of trying to make your legs look absolutely as long as possible. So as a matador, you seem more intimidating to the bull. I thought that was a really, like, wonderful thing that she did was getting in that shaping and pulling up her core, but beautiful lines, beautiful passion, and I loved the use of the skirt. What I did find is that when they were in the partnering stuff, I'd love To see more roundness in her back. Now, if I compare this to a passo, that comes a little bit later in Whitney, and both of them were very much on the same level to me, but they have differences. So you'll see when Whitney and Mark do their passo, and we'll come back to them. But there is a little bit more space and resistance in between the bodies as they're doing the choreography, where they're in, like, an open frame. And what I find when looking at Alex and Val is she doesn't necessarily have that resistance, so. And space. So it feels to me that she's not working into the roundedness and of her back in trying to push into Val's arm that is on her back. You know, she needs to use that connection point just a little bit more. And I find that we're also seeing that in her ballroom. So that's something for me, I really want to see moving forward from her is working into that outside edge of the frame, working into Val's hands, working onto the outside edge of that energy so they can create better momentum and they can get a longer stride and more power in what they're doing. The wall. I also said that she had a tiny music bite, so they switched from using beats to lyrics. I don't remember. We'll give it a shot. Give it a shot, I think was the one, but she bit on it just a fraction, Just a tiniest of a fraction, but it was only the one moment. Everywhere else was good. And then the ending, I was like, oh, the ending. Ouch. She, like, her bum hit the floor, and then she landed on hip and knee. I would be surprised if she did not have bruises. Now, I don't know if she could have actually done anything about that. I think it was just, like, how far away they were from each other. Or it could have been that her arms went too straight, and so therefore, there wasn't the resistance for Val to actually keep her off the ground to get momentum and swing. So something went just a little bit of miss there in that very end with the slide onto the ground and the twist into the final position. However, they did a fantastic job, and I absolutely loved it, because with all that being said, I was almost a 10 on this one, you guys. But I land and I said nine, ten. And I feel like I landed on a nine. But I could. I could easily have given it a 10, because all these notes that I'm giving is not that anything was wrong with it. They're just honestly, ways to improve she really did everything right. The only mistake was the tiny little bit of the timing bite and whatever went wrong with that end position. Val and Alex doing a phenomenal job once again. Val being an absolute beast at his job and getting her to grow every week. It's just amazing. And she really looks like she throws herself into it. And this is something Carrie Anne said last week after of, you know, respect and coming to the game. This stuff is hard. And Alex could very well be a 20 something privileged. Millions and millions of followers, probably lots of money, like not want to try hard. And you can see she's in there with the blood, sweat and tears. Zero complaints. Push me harder. Give me vintage Val. Like, I have a mad respect for a young woman that could walk into a room and wants to do that. So I loved this. I was big impressed. Oh, sorry. The judges gave it a 10. 10, 9, 10. And I would say that I landed on a. Well, you know what? I'm not committing. I'm a 9/10. Okay, let's move into Andy and Emma. This is my favorite dance, you guys, that he has done. I mean, come on now with the story between the two of them, I just. It was heaven. Carrie Ann said, beautiful tribute. Teaching people who don't know how to dance what it feels like to learn how to dance. I thought that was a really sweet comment and a really profound the way that he embraces every moment of this. And it's just so heartwarming to see. And I agree on all points. No dance notes there to really get into. I think it's simple and beautiful and what she said and correct. And I, I agree. I love watching him and I think he's showing you all what it feels like to learn how to dance, even if you feel like you can't do it. Derek said, thank you for embracing this. Dance is a can. Oh, I loved this one from Derek. Dance is a mirror and a hammer at the same time. And he feels like we're seeing him break open. What a beautiful, beautiful. Just line or quote from Derek and I really agree with that. Again, I think it's self explanatory. I think we've seen more from Andy and I loved seeing this side of him. This, like very emotional. Not trying to be funny and. And performing and leaning on those things. Just really getting into it. I loved it. It was beautiful. Flav said, good job. Everything was on point. Bruno said, it was charming and tender with a childlike honesty. So agree relatable. And he is the people's champion that he Is. So I said, of course I'm looking for dance notes here. Listen, I loved the whole thing, the package. I'm already emotional. Everything was great. There was one of the lifts where he picked her up and he went to turn the wrong way, and then he's. He corrected and turned back the other way. But this is what I wrote. I'm crying. I love this partnership so much. He supported her in the lifts. Really lovely. And I love the arm work that they did. He really had intention going to his fingertips this week, and I thought he was pretty steady on his feet. His timing was nice. And then I wrote at the end of this, I was like, hold on. Is this Emma's second mirror ball? Because listen, I won with an Andy and people love him. And I see the response to him. We talk about this and I get it. And Bruno said it. He is the people's champion. Bobby and I won in a season when it was stacked with talent. It was stacked. The finale, which was five people, all the other four of them could dance. Could dance brilliantly. It was as stacked as this season. Milo. I mean, forget it. It was just the most incredibly high level of a season. And yet it was Bobby, the people's champion, who came through with the human experience in showing people, as Carrie Ann said, who don't know how to dance, what it's like to learn how to dance and showing them heart. I'm just saying, you guys, for the haters, you might want to prepare yourself that it is a distinct possibility. He goes all the way and takes it home. And for those of you that are voting for Andy and love it, this is what the show is about, and I totally get it. And I understand your vote. Emma and Andy, I love you. All right, coming into the scores for Andy and Emma, the judges gave it a 7. 7. 9. 7. And I listen. I landed on my highest score that I have for him. The whole season. I was in between a six. You guys. I almost went a seven. I almost went a seven because I loved it so much. I was crying at the last moment. It's very much what that dance was supposed to be about. I'm not committing. I refus in a six and a seven, and I loved everything about it. Okay, getting into Whitney and Mark, we just touched on them briefly. So they're doing a passa doble. Second passo of the night. Let's get into what the judges said. Derek said, the ballroom is on fire. Classic edgy, perfectly entangled. Then he gave this torso example of how she had this Contraction and texture in it. And it was a delicious moment in her dance. Absolutely agree. Flav said charisma and moves and timing were all great. Bruno said, ferociously intense, artistically exquisite. And then he landed on that for a second. He said what he wants to say about that is that the placement of the paso doble was in the exact, precise Spanish lines. Now, Whitney, even more than Alex, had this paso posture, that high core and center going up to, like, closer to in between the rib cage. Hips forward, elbows up. Now, here's a difference that you can go back and compare. When Alex is using her skirt, her elbows are actually a little more collapsed and closer to her rib cage. What you're supposed to feel like with your elbows, my coach used to say, is pretend that there are pegs with strings on your. By the way, there's. On your elbow is called your wenus. If you're a child like me, I giggled at that for a very long time. The skin on your elbow is pegged, and there are strings that are pulling it up to the. Up to the ceiling. So it is always pulled back and up. So even when you're using your skirt, your elbow is wide and away from your body. And listen, Whitney crushed that. She really crushed that passo posture. And the shaping and the lines and the elbows up and out. I very, very much appreciated that. Attention to detail had that in spades. And this is exactly what Bruno was talking about. Like, all of it was the correct Spanish lines. We get into Carrie Anne, she was called her sick, which for anyone that's, you know, not my age and young and is younger, that sick is a very good thing. I don't think you guys say that anymore. Carrie Ann said it was sick and amazing, but that it lost its balance, mostly because she was doing the shaping with so much intensity. And, yeah, she's right. There were some stumbles in this. It wasn't the most solid into the ground. And I agree on all these things. So let's get into what I said. I was like, fabulous paso arms and shaping. First thing I wrote from out the gate, she was spectacular. And then I was like, she's a little bit unstable in a couple of moments. And, yeah, that is just. Just maybe dealing with the center and the core being higher in a different placement. We're not nose over toes now, where, again, like, hips over toes. I did say fabulous content. The timing was solid this week, which I loved seeing from her. That is an improvement from last week. And there was lovely space between them. So this is what I Was saying in comparison to Alex, there was that real space between them. She was working into Mark's frame, working her back into that to really create that space and shape that we want to see in the pasa double. So she did a fantastic job at all of that. That. That intensity and the literal tension and resistance between their bodies as they're dancing and moving. You can tell someone is leading, someone is following. We are in the right places. In the electric guitar solo moment, she was having a little bit of a. Of trouble with her direction changes. This is where she looked a little bit unstable for me and her shaping. So she was losing the momentum on how to keep changing her direction quickly because it's a very specific way that we do things in ballroom. It's very different to the way she would have ever learned in commercial dance and what she was doing when she was younger. So it did get a little bit unstable in that moment for me as well. There was the ending stumble that didn't. Just didn't finish as strong as it started, and I think one or two other moments where she just doubled back on her feet. Now, again, we have a very high standard for Whitney because of her dance training, because of who she is. We also have a high standard for Alex. We have. You know, it's just a thing that happens when people have dance training. We tend to be tougher on them, and I think that evens out the playing field. I did say there was so much to love in this. The passo technique and the body was absolutely stunning and I think unmatched as far as how well our celebrities did in adapting to the technique. For the three that did passo, I think she did the most incredible job. And her texture was once again unbelievable. Her line's great. It was just those stumbles and that momentum looking a little bit unstable in that section that for me, had it not being a 10. I wanted to give this a 10, and I landed on a 9. The judges ended up on a 9, 10, 10, 10. So I was in line with Carrie Ann this week. But I listen, I fully understand how the judges got there for a 10. This is could. This could have easily been the first perfect score of the season. But for me, those little things just stood out too much for me to give it a 10. But listen, when she gets a 10, I will be screaming for joy because she absolutely is good enough for it.
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Getting into Danielle and Pasha. I'm already sad. Oh, I'm they had a contemporary. It was beautiful. Let's get into what the judges said. Flav said it was great. He was looking for timing in the unison and it was all on point. Bruno said life can be hard. Stay resilient. There was a mess up but he she should be very, very proud of it. Carrie Ann apologized for her words the week before, which I think it was the tiny woman thing. I don't know if people took it the wrong way. I certainly didn't. We addressed that last week, and it looks like Danielle didn't either. She understands that, you know, she's good. Things come in small packages, right, man, you know, And I don't think she took any offense to it. She said. Carrie Ann said contemporary is all about the storytelling, and she felt that she got the chills, and it took her to a place. She complimented on the being what dance can do. Transporting to you, you to another place in time. So you're not in the ballroom. You're feeling a different moment. And I do think we got that from Danielle. You know, I think she was very much in her feels in this, and it meant a lot to her. So I feel that that's what Carrie Ann was really watching and seeing for Derek. He says, we root for you. You radiate beautiful energy and gave her lots of compliments on just who she is as a human, because it does radiate out there. Her light is just so bright and wonderful. He did say that it felt a little bit disjointed, but well done. So one of the lifts felt a little bit unstable. I think it was the one where she, like, it's not a cartwheel, but she flips up over his leg onto the back of his shoulders. And it had just a little bit of a wobble and a double take in getting into it. But actually funny that that Derek said disjointed. That is the word that I use. Something felt like it wasn't all connected to the core of her body very much. With dance, everything comes from the one place, and it extends out. So that tension and that connection has to be alive at all times. It can't just be a move in an arm. It has to come from the body. That activates the arm, that activates the shoulder to the elbow, to the wrist of the fingers. It all has to feel very connected and purposeful. As I've said many times, moving through quicksand. If you were trying to dance in quicksand or underwater, just try it. You have to activate your entire body to do it. You have to activate your entire body. If you're in a swimming pool just to move your arm, your core is going to engage whether you know it or not. And so with this dance, I just felt like I wanted more of that. More of the whole body experience. The whole body being activated, and into it. It felt a tad sloppy. Now, that could have happened because there was so many emotions in this for Danielle. And every now and then, we can see. We've seen it happen in the weeks prior in dedication night, that the emotion can override a little bit. And so then we lose some of the purpose in the body because it becomes about the emotion we're feeling. And at the end of the day, if this was the dance that Danielle went out on and it meant so much to her, I hope it was cathartic. I hope she absolutely loved her experience on this show. I. I thoroughly enjoyed watching her. I feel like she's one of those humans that I'm like, can we just be friends? You know, she's got that energy about her where you just. You want to watch more, you want to see more, you want to be around her, you want to talk to her, and I love that. And I think she brought that out in her dancing. And I will say it. It sucks for Danielle because she's in a season that is just so stacked with majorly, first of all, people that have had dance backgrounds in some sort of way that are highly animated when they go out there on that date dance floor, you know, or a gymnast that's doing flips and tricks. Like, there's just so many in this season that could easily win it. And then you have an Andy who is on the other end of the scale, but the personality and the things that he's winning people over with. It unfortunately left Danielle in the middle. But I guarantee you, any other season, we could have seen her all the way into the final. But I will say everything happens as it's meant to. She had the journey that she was supposed to have. And, Danielle, I hope that you get to the end of this, this. And once the sting goes away, that you can see everything you did was exceptional. And you can be incredibly proud of yourself, because I'm proud of you and I don't even know you. It was beautiful watching your journey. The judges gave it a nine. Eight. Nine, eight. I landed on an eight. Moving into Elaine and Alan Viennese waltz. We had her back in the ballroom, which was absolutely wonderful. Let's get into it nice and quick. Bruno said it was sumptuous. Did I write that word? Elegant, light, flowing. You know how to sell it. Once again, her performance quality and just sensational. Carrie Ann said she feels familiar. She speaks her language. She feels like she knows who she is when she dances, which I think was really all about carrying, honing in on that authenticity that we see from Elaine when She's on the floor. There is genuinely just something about that woman when you watch her that you're captivated and it feels truly authentic and she's just truly in it. And she's got just enough of a background in it to be able to just let herself leave it all on the floor and not overthink the things. She really goes in performance mode and we get to see who she is. I love that comment from Carrie M. Derek said, she is resilient and radiant and remarkable and she is an absolute breath of fresh air. Agreed on all points. Flav said, you don't move like you were hurt. You healed up beautiful. And it was amazing. Amazing. I agree with you, Flav. So my notes were beautiful arms and texture, a lovely frame. And she's done a really great job. And really great job, by the way of her spins are always really great. I know we saw her in the package say she can't do that many spins. I think that is because of her injuries. She's just sort of getting through. But when she does now this is hard. You guys watch the dance and see how she will spin. Alan will spin her in and they will go directly into frame and they will directly move into a combination. No frame set up the. The her spin steps lead her into the steps of whatever the pass or the choreography is for that dance for Viennese Waltz in this case. And I thought that was very, very impressive. Her footwork was lovely. Even when she does her arms like this is what I'm talking about. It's a whole body experience. Not only does it come from her core all the way to her fingertips, her head released for a moment on some of them because she was letting the energy and the emotion come through all. And I thought that was absolutely exceptional moving forward. What I would love to see from her is a little bit more drive in the legs. And I don't know if we were held back a little bit this week because of the ribs. And that is also quite possibly so. Another one of my notes in Venus Waltz is we need a bit more drive, but also sway. Now sway. And I can understand how we didn't get it this week. But what we need in Venus Waltz is sway. It's not rise and fall. It's when we're opening our rib cages on either side. Side. We're alternating between the rib cages that we're stretching. My coach used to say, it's like your rib cage is yawning. And so what we were missing was that stretch in the sides as she was waltzing. And granted, again, it was probably the injury, but I do feel like that was something that we were missing as well as just a little bit more drive. Now, did I love this dance? I loved this dance. The judges gave it a nine. Nine. Flav gave it a ten and Bruno gave it a nine. I was in line with the judges and I gave it a nine. I think she did a fantastic job. Job, especially battling an injury. And I was very, very impressed. I love. I love Elaine. I love Elaine and Alan and I can't wait to watch more of them. Ezra and Jordan doing a jazz. Let's get into the judges straight away. So, basically, Carrie Ann said that she is ballsy, she takes risks, and this one absolutely delivered. She loved the back extension. In one of the sections, she says, amazing. You're sick. I loved it. That's Carrie Ann's word for this week. Week sick. Now, Derek said she is the queen of the ballroom. Tricks and flips were a 10. It was fantastic. And Flav said it was nice and precise. He said he's given it a 55, which we now know is a 10. And Bruno said it was spectacular. And it's so good to see your wild side, little teen eternal wildness. Listen, I loved this. I also like Ezra in his package. When he was apologizing, I. I mean, he's such a sweetheart and I get why he did, but this is how he's going to end up being an absolute like. Like, beast of a pro. He's going to take risks, he's going to try them and he's going to figure out how to do it better next time. He is so creative and talented and I appreciated the risk that he took. So what? It didn't pay off. They survived. They're fine. I think he's doing an amazing job and I love that he's taking risks. I said, it's amazing. It's so clean, it's so joyful, it's executed beautifully. True jazz content, tricks. Obviously amazing and unreal. Now, I had originally, when I watched this, I was like, that's a 10. Because I was actually there backstage this week and I was like, surely that's a 10. That was amazing. And I had everyone around me and everyone's cheering for it because she is very impressive. And then I saw the scores and I was like, why are Derek and Bruno a 9? So I watched it back today and I'm in a 9. 10. Here's what I think. I think we could have taken a few more risks this week. With what I would love to see from Jordan is a little bit more intricate choreography, because I think she can handle it. She's handled some incredible things. Now, maybe Ezra wanted to keep it clean and tight and nice, and I totally get that, too. But I felt, oh, as far as the jazz content goes now, the tricks are unbelievable. Out of this world. Who else can do them? But the actual jazz content now, while true to form, absolutely authentic, felt like it was a little simple in its jazz content and its musicality. And I would have loved to have seen maybe a little more on that. Now, was it executed well? It was executed brilliantly. That's why I was like, that's a 10, right? No notes, no mistakes. And even in saying that there's no real notes to the judges on how to be better known notes from Derek on how to be better or Bruno. But I understand how they landed on a nine, because I feel like we could have seen more intricacies in that. So then I landed on a 910 and. And I'm not going to commit because I don't have to, but I'm in between a 9 and a 10. But she did execute it perfectly. I think I just wanted a little bit more of something from it. So hard to say that to ez, because last week he did the most, and he's probably trying to be safe this week, but that's the name of the game, man. So, yeah, the Judges were a 10, 9, 10, 9. And I landed on a 9, 10, basically in the middle of all of them. Robert and Whitney doing a passer double. Let's get straight into the judges. So Derek said he dominated and he owned the arena, which is the matador in arena. Yes, we want that. The cape work, the knee walks, all of it was amazing. But there was just a little hiccup. I believe it was at the beginning somewhere. And Flav said, he is the new Fred Astaire. Loved it. Perfect. Amazing. Bruno said, Thunder from Down Under. I'm sure his mum in the audience would have absolutely appreciated that reference. Theatrical beginning. He absolutely loved that with the. The flat bags. Amazing. Loved the classical interpretation, which truly, once they got down on the floor, there was a classical interpretation of. Of Pasadel Blade. True to style, true authentic content. Carrie Ann said it was incredible choreography and content. And then she also said to Robert, you have momentum at the right time. This momentum is going to take you all the way to the end. And she is right. He is ramping up at the right time. He started off strong. He had a Little hiccup in the middle, which reminds us that he's human and he's not actually a dancer. Now we've seen him grow through the.
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His story, his arc on this season is like winning material is what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's the best dancer. Certainly not. He is up there. But his story and his arc, it is exactly the thing that can win this show. And that's what Carrie Anne means. His momentum, where he is at right now, is perfectly lining him up for that mirror ball. There were. She did say there were teeny, tiny wobbles at the top, but who cares? Because the rest of it was amazing. Amazing. He should be very proud of it. They were teeny tiny wobbles. So the first thing I wrote was the Derek Huff special. I think it was Derek that used these flags the very first time. This image, right of the walkway, the red. The flags, the thing. This is the way he. We saw Robert start. This is very much a Derek Hough vibe. Inspired. And I loved it. I thought it was great and I thought that Robert lived up to it and he did a fantastic job. Very in sync. But I did say there were tiny wobbles. He had lovely shaping in key areas, but it was by no means as consistent as what we saw in, say, Whitney. And he'd had lovely shaping and lovely power throughout. Just like fabulous intensity from him, truly. And you could see he was getting those hips forward in those key areas. He was really trying to lift up his center, especially in some of his lines. He did have a bit of a foot fiddle at the top. I don't know if he turned late or if he was supposed to turn late. Late could have gone either way. His hips were a little too far back on his knee walks. Those knee walks when he's down and very self explanatory. He's on his knees, he's walking forward. Those hips are meant to be much further forward and it actually makes the momentum of it much easier. But his were a little bit too far back. And when they were doing this opposing section where they're sort of opposite each other somewhat mirroring each other, his hips were also a little bit far back. We got back into a booty out situation. So I, however, notes aside, absolutely loved this from him. And I thought, you know, Whitney is right. We're comparing him to the males that danced, right. And once again, when we're talking about ballroom dancing, he doesn't have as many flourishes in this dance where when you're watching Whitney and Alex do a pasadobile. They're doing all the turns and all the. They're being thrown, and they're being that whatever it is, they're doing the flourishes and the extra exciting stuff where the man is incredibly stable and doing the least read. And Robert did do a very good job at that. Now, he may not have had as complicated as choreography, or it may not look like he was necessarily doing as much, but he really was doing a lot. And I felt like what he did, he executed really, really well. So the judges gave this a 9. 9, 10, 10. I actually landed on a 9. I almost went to an 8 because I felt like it wasn't as complicated, But I also felt like that wasn't as. As fair because what he executed and what he did, he did a fantastic job. So I was very impressed. So let's call it an eight. Nine. We're in. In between Nate. Nine. But really, I think much closer to a nine. They're doing a good job, you guys. Whitney and Robert. Okay, that was our last couple for the evening. Now we are heading into the team dance. So let me just say team dances, right? The name of the game here is, first of all, teamwork and working together and creating a cohesive dance where it's not about one couple, one thing is about finding what everyone do together. The things, the tricks of the trade. What really makes a team dance exciting is the transitions between formation to formation, right? So whether you've got four couples on the floor and one peels off and you're left with three, however you do that, however you switch in and out of having group into solo, however you guide the camera, because you very much in this get to guide the camera. This is on you guys. You get to do the whole pitch because it's a group number. So it's not just one couple that our amazing director Phil is trying to get into. He's got to understand what he's looking at and how you're planning on moving everyone around the floor and making sure everyone sees what they're meant to see. So I felt like one team did a really good job of this. And then it's also about layers, right? So you don't just want one couple dancing at a time. What are the layers in the background? What's everybody doing? How are they getting out of the way? How are they coming back in? How are we supporting every other within it? I actually really liked. Before we get into the individual team dances, I actually really like that we had Alfonso and Julianne I. I think it changes it up, man. It's fun to have them add into that, to give it a little bit of a different flavor. I don't think we've ever done that before, and I thought that was really cute. Obviously, both of them can dance amazingly, so it's not like it hindered anything, but I thought it was a really cute touch. Do I think we need it every time? No, I think it was helpful because it was four couples. So four and four can. Sometimes four can just be a sticky number to stage because you always have an empty middle. And having that extra person in there, I think actually really made it this. The staging of it, much more balanced. Okay, let's get into the actual teams. So we had Team Chicago, which was Alfonso's team. Let's get into the judges first. Flav said it was the bum diggity. Bruno said it was a Quentin Tarantino movie, slick and cool, and he loved it. Carrie Ann said it was so tight, so clear. Loved all of the features. Features being when everyone had their solo moments. Derek complimented the dance diversity and that he loved it. So, yeah, we had tango, we had Foxtrot, we had gymnastics. Weird. They were changing it up in there. I think Ezra did a little bit more of, like, an Argentine tango vibe in there. So I really loved that. It wasn't all just the same styles, and it wasn't just, like, fun jazz. They really bought something different to the table for all of them. And then they had really great group sections with each other as well. I said it was very in sync the whole way through. Very, very clean. Great transition conditions. I like the way that they peeled between whether it was someone playing up to the camera before you saw the next thing. I thought they did a fantastic job of directing us around the floor. We knew what we were supposed to be looking at. Nothing felt messy. Everything was tight and right and the layers of what was going on in the background. I really appreciate it. If you go back and look at it, no one's just sort of standing around the background. It all has to do with what's happening in front of them. It all has an amazing cohesive look to it. And I thought it was really well done, really well thought out. Out. The formations were great. The staging was great. It didn't feel repetitive. You know, it was changing formations throughout, which is very fun and necessary. Otherwise, as a watcher, you get bored. Super clean, great content. And then I giggled at Whitney being the one that was, like, counting all the celebs through their solo section. When they were dancing with Alfonso, you could see her counting the 5, 6, 7, 8 and wrist, wrist and, and doing the cues. And I thought that was very cute. They gave it, the judges gave this a 10, 10, 10, 10, 10. I absolutely landed on a 10. I. What's not to love about this dance? And it was executed very, very well.
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Then we move into team Cool. Judges said Bruno, so much fun. Love the celebration of friendship. We're all in this together. And he said something along the lines of we all play our roles, but we're really all in this together. And he's right. We all love what we do. Something like. Like that, you know, the judges, it's not that they're playing a role. They're being authentic, but they have to be a judge. But at the same time, they love everything that they see on this floor. Now, you have to understand, even when judges give critiques, they still love seeing people out there dancing. They love dance at the end of the day. And I think that was very much what, like, Bruno was trying to touch on. You know, we all play our roles, but this is a celebration of dance and friendship. We're all one family. We're all in this together. And I thought that was really cute. Cute. Carrie Ann said the audience, she tried to talk, but they wouldn't let her. And she was like, y' all are mean. She tried to talk about, like, when they were partnering each other, and then she just bounced out because she was getting booed. And that's just like, you want to let a person talk, man. You know? And she's had some great critiques, and sometimes she's the only one giving an actual note, so we need to allow her space and time to talk. And so then we get into Derek, and he said the others were a little bit tighter, but he loved all the camaraderie, all the energy, all the things about about it. The celebration of friendship, which totally, you can see that it really was. They had an absolute blast. If I had to choose which team dance I wanted to be in just for the experience, I would totally choose team Cool. Flav said, cooler than four blocks of ice. Cool. I said, good Lord, I love Andy from the package. Good Lord, I love that man. I love watching him. Such a fun story. I thought Jules looked beautiful in it. I always love watching her take dance. I said the background layers weren't great. They were a little bit simple, repetitive. I think they could have been thought out better. I think they could have had better staging and camera transitions, that they just weren't as creative, you know, they weren't as thought out. I think I didn't leave as much space for Phil to do cool things with it, for us to, as an audience member, be transported around the room to see the things we're seeing. And there was a really cute Busby moment. You know, I've done a lot of team dances. One of my favorites was Team Nightmare. I also Bobby Bones. This season, we did the cowboy, the country one, which was fantastic. There's a bunch that I've done now always, because I learned this, by the way, from watching Derek when I was in his team dances. I think we talked about this first episode. I always, when I was in a team dance, then from there, my absolute game plan. I will take care of staging because I'm actually very good at that. I know how to work with cameras, how to move us around the room, how to create cool transitions so things wipe the screen and you're suddenly revealed with something. It may be makes it exciting, especially when the actual choreography needs to stay relatively simple so our celebrities can stay in sync and clean. And so I feel like if you ever get a chance to go back and watch some of the older team dances, you'll see a lot more that. That we're the ones where Derek was in or I was in, where those staging things happen, and it really elevates it to another level. We saw that in Team Chicago. I think we were missing that a little bit in Team Cool. You know, we. We miss traveling through. You can use all parts of the room, and I think it just felt a little bit more simple than it could have been. So I was actually in between an 8 and a 9, really leaning more towards an 8. But the judges gave this a 9. 10, 10, 9. Then we get into the elimination, and it was Danielle. And you could see she. She knew. She knew it was going to be her. It's a crazy thing, by the way, when you're on the show, go. I always knew when I was going to go home. I woke up that. That Monday because we used to record on Mondays, and I just knew. I knew that I needed to pack my bag so I could fly directly to New York because I was going home. I also, you know, on the seasons when I got second or were in the final, I woke up. And I just knew that we weren't going to win. I did not, however, see it coming that Bobby and I were going to win. So I will say that my intuition dropped on that one that, you know, I could see it in Danielle's face. And I, I again, I said it already, but I hope she had a wonderful time. It was wonderful watching her. I am just beside myself with excitement to celebrate 20 years of dancing with the Stars. Coming up next week, we have Tom Bergeron as a judge on Dancing with the Stars. What a trip. I think he's going to be great. I'm just so incredibly excited to be there. So grateful to have been a part of it for such a long time. Really sitting in gratitude of being able to do this for you guys and be a part of it in that way. And it's just been, been wonderful. So I can't wait to bring you in the fourth chair next week. But until then, thank you for tuning in. I love you all. And again, if you have any questions, leave them in the comments and I will try and get to them. Bye, Everybody.
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Episode: Sharna Burgess in the 4th Chair: Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Night
Date: November 6, 2025
Host: Danielle Fishel
Guest/Commentator: Sharna Burgess
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts
This episode recaps the "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Night" on Dancing with the Stars (DWTS), diving deep into dances, judges' critiques, and the unique atmosphere of this themed episode. Special focus is given to Sharna Burgess' expert commentary—dishing out technical notes, emotional insights, and behind-the-scenes perspectives. The night featured celebrity guest judge Flavor Flav and included both individual routines and team dances, as well as a heartfelt send-off for Danielle Fishel.
For more behind-the-scenes details, dance analysis, and celebratory energy, tune in to the next episode as Sharna promises an extra special guest and more “fourth chair” wisdom!