#367 - Ex-CIA Operative: Most Dangerous Weapon Ever Created is Already in Use | Dale Comstock

Summary

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Danny Jones Podcast #367

Guest: Dale Comstock (Ex-Delta Force Operator, Security Consultant, Author)
Title: Ex-Delta Force Mercenary: What’s REALLY Happening in Venezuela | Dale Comstock
Date: January 26, 2026

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Overview

In this gripping and expansive episode, host Danny Jones sits with retired Delta Force operator Dale Comstock for a no-holds-barred conversation on covert operations, the recent Delta Force mission in Venezuela, government dysfunction, unconventional warfare, AI, information warfare, elite selection, and the future of human existence. Comstock shares deeply personal experiences, high-stakes stories from the field, analysis of American policy and society, and theories on controversial current events—delivered with candor, a sense of dark humor, and a unique, seasoned perspective.

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Guest Introduction & Background

[00:11–01:53]

• Dale Comstock gives an overview: served as a Green Beret, Delta Force operator, and paratrooper; 10+ years in military and another 10 with “OGA”; also built businesses, worked in Hollywood, and did private security in Hong Kong and Indonesia.
• Married to an Indonesian woman; currently splits time between Bali and Panama City Beach, FL.
• “I ended up in Hollywood circa 2011, making movies…realized that being in Hollywood is not my shtick…then protected a multi-billionaire investment banker in Hong Kong…now have three companies in Bali.” (B, 00:24)

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Terror Threat and Bureaucratic Nightmare

[01:53–08:45]

• In 2024, Comstock was notified by the FBI he had become an Al Qaeda priority target—a global ‘hue and cry’ (perhaps a fatwa) for his assassination.
• Describes the surreal, insufficient US government response while living in Indonesia—even as his wife was forcibly deported back to Indonesia under questionable pretenses despite illness and being a legal resident.
• US officials and politicians offered no help, until finally connecting with the right young RSO at the embassy fixed the wife's visa debacle—demonstrating how ordinary Americans and even decorated veterans are left abandoned overseas.

“I was the guy who stood between American families and the bad guys…and now they’re telling me, ‘You’re on your own.’” (B, 05:16)

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Rescuing Americans Abroad / US Abandonment

[08:45–10:53]

• Shares stories of Americans left behind in war zones and other countries—often bureaucratically trapped, unable to get help from their embassy.
• Comstock has personally “walked Americans across borders” to freedom and extracted people in dangerous situations, underscoring a general pattern: “Nobody’s coming. Nobody’s coming to help you.”

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MODELO PRISON RAID – Panama 1989 (Operation Acid Gambit)

[10:53–39:22]

• Walkthrough of a legendary Delta Force mission to rescue CIA-affiliated prisoner Kurt Muse from Panama’s Modelo Prison just before the US invasion to remove Noriega.
• Insider details on the preparation, including resourcefulness (stripping avionics to lighten helicopters), rehearsal with mockups, and the complications/chaos of the night (compromised opsec, civilians expecting a parade, heavy fire, breaching mishaps).
• Comstock was the breacher; describes a charge malfunction under fire and narrowly escaping death.
• Six-minute in-and-out raid, followed by a hasty rescue of the crash-landed extraction helicopter.
• Comparison to more recent Venezuela raid (see next section).

“We went in there and literally grabbed this man out of a hardened prison…with shooters everywhere, and we didn’t lose a man…Six minutes from the time the wheels went up until they landed again.” (B, 39:15)

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Venezuela 2025 Delta Force Assault (Operation Absolute Resolve)

[39:22–44:58]

• Analysis of the recent Delta Force kill/capture raid in Venezuela:
  • Preparation as in Panama—mock-ups of target compounds, robust intelligence (CIA recruited insiders).
  • Operation even larger than Panama (allegedly 150 aircraft, heavy use of high-tech gear: jammers, drones, sonic/energy weapons).
  • Mission was an enormous political gamble for President Trump, but executed flawlessly (“pulled it off because they know they’ve got the best equipment and the best men”).
  • Core lesson: advanced tech helps, but the decisive factor is “the man on the ground with the gun.”

“You can have all the technology in the world…in the end of the day, it comes back to the man on the ground with the gun.” (B, 44:58)

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What Makes Delta Force Unique?

[45:02–54:44]

• Delta’s selection favors high “effective intelligence,” not just brawn—problem solvers with above-average IQs, high GT scores, and what Comstock calls “controlled psychopathic killers.”
• Discusses the psychology of killing, referencing Lt. Col. Dave Grossman’s book On Killing.
• Describes the psychological hurdles most people have to lethal force.
• Delta’s edge: members already have resolved their own deaths, are capable of quick, unhesitating, effective violence amidst chaos.

“No man there had any reluctance to shoot somebody. We had no problem with that, because we knew why we were doing it…that does take some kind of psychopathy.” (B, 49:10)

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Technology, Directed-Energy Weapons, and AI Warfare

[59:13–62:28]

• On rumors of directed energy/sonic weapons—Comstock says such technology exists, is being miniaturized/deployed.
• US success in “penetrating deep” with high-tech raids should “raise eyebrows around the world.”

“We are just energy. That’s all we are… If I was able to blast you with one of these sonic weapons, I could probably alter your frequency and make you…vomit, bleed, even die.” (B, 61:13)

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Greenland & Geopolitics

[62:28–66:59]

• On the US–Denmark–Greenland treaty: Trump’s negotiation moves viewed as chess—he wants leverage, not actual war (“it’s the art of the deal”).
• Comments on NATO displays of “show force” and the inability of most US allies to actually defend themselves.
• Speculative predictions on the long-term impact of acquiring new territories and controlling Arctic resources.

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Systemic Corruption & Political Power

[66:59–71:59]

• Discussion of the Epstein files, child trafficking, and how both major US parties are deeply compromised.
• Expression of Comstock’s growing distrust of the entire US system, the overwhelming sense of “nobody’s coming to help”—rhetoric gives way to resentment at American passivity, emasculation, the erosion of values.

“Where are the American men at? Why are we not standing up…? I don’t care if it means go to arms.” (B, 71:22)

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Legacy Media, Propaganda, AI & Misinformation

[73:56–78:29]

• Podcasts and new media as resistance to manipulated legacy news (Operation Mockingbird reference).
• Foreign governments now “paying influencers” for information warfare.
• AI and deepfakes poised to make truth impossible to discern; coming disruption to jobs and economies (“in two years, 80% will be jobless”).
• AI isn’t “artificial”—it’s real intelligence and is reshaping human civilization.

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Universal Basic Income, AI, Human Purpose

[81:07–87:51]

• Debates the upsides and risks of universal basic income in an AI-dominated future.
• Profound social and psychological upheaval likely (“men are driven by purpose…take that away, and you’ve been neutered”).
• Predicts the erosion of sovereignty, the “engineered extinction” of our society—reference to “mousetopia” experiment.

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Fifth-Generation Warfare: Info, Borders, Fentanyl

[90:50–110:13]

• Comstock views America as being in the midst of fifth-generation, information-centered “World War III.”
• Details fentanyl as a Chinese weapon channeled through Latin America; praises investment in counternarcotics.
• Border security and ICE enforcement are debated, with Comstock sympathizing with law enforcement and lamenting bureaucratic chaos, misplaced priorities, humanitarian double standards, and the catastrophic impact of unrestricted migration.

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Military Regret, War & Politics

[115:54–123:54]

• Deep regret about “good men dying for nothing” due to political constraints in Afghanistan, Somalia, and more.
• Stories of bureaucratic resistance to effective unconventional warfare (e.g., rejected car bomb tactics as “wheeled explosive delivery systems”).
• Discusses how political will—not military capability—determines American success or failure in war.

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Classified Ops, Conspiracies & Major Events

[137:59–161:32]

• Comstock shares stories and theories (often with journalist John Cullen) about major recent and historical events, including:
  • The Butler assassination attempt – possible multiple shooters, Ukrainian snipers, drone involvement; posits political leverage for Trump over Zelensky.
  • The Las Vegas massacre – questions official narrative; possible helicopter shooters, Saudi royal MBS as target, elaborate cover-up.
  • 9/11 – insists planes did the damage, but suspects government enabling or foreknowledge; dismisses demolition theory based on his knowledge of explosives.
  • Osama bin Laden’s death – accepts official account, dismisses “still alive” theories.

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The Nature of Reality, Life After Death, and Consciousness

[174:43–206:14]

• Deep dive into metaphysics: quantum fields, collective consciousness (Jung), vibrations and intuition (experiences with mother/family premonitions).
• Science and the afterlife—how energy is never destroyed (thermodynamics), and death as a transition, not an ending.
• Skepticism of organized religion; sees engineered meaning and dogma as control systems, but espouses belief in universal intelligence, the power of the mind, and “creating your own reality.”

“We will always live, maybe not in body, but in spirit…we are part of this collective consciousness.” (B, 195:46)

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Final Words

[208:53–end]

• On mindset and life: Imagination, not hard work alone, is the secret to fulfillment and creating your own reality.
• Encourages listeners to focus on self-betterment and resilience rather than obsessing over politics or external forces.
• Promotes his books, coaching, and stem cell therapy.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On being abandoned by the US system:
  “Nobody’s coming. Nobody’s coming to help you.” (B, ~10:00, recurring theme)

• On the Modelo Prison raid:
  “Six minutes. Six minutes from the time the wheels went up until they landed again.” (B, 39:15)

• On Delta selection:
  “Delta operators aren’t fearless or just courageous—they’re confident…they don’t go in and fight out of fear, they run the situation.” (B, 58:41)

• On AI and human value:
  “If you don’t have a purpose, you don’t have a job…you’ve been neutered. Most men, after a while, will go crazy…” (B, 81:36)

• On politics and power:
  “It’s three different planes: us everyday people, the government politicians, and the military…completely isolated from us.” (A, 107:00)

• On consciousness after death:
  “Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, can only be transferred. So when you die…what happens to the energy within?...I believe we never die and we will never die.” (B, 195:35)

• On making your own reality:
  “You are your only limitation. What you think is what’s going to make—you’ll become what you think.” (B, 206:13)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Segment | |:-------------- |:----------------------------------------------- | | 00:24–01:53 | Dale’s background & world travels | | 01:53–08:45 | Al Qaeda threat, US bureaucracy, wife’s deport. | | 10:53–39:22 | Modelo Prison rescue, Delta Force op | | 39:22–44:58 | Venezuela raid analysis, tech vs. “the man” | | 45:02–54:44 | What makes Delta Force special/selection | | 59:13–62:28 | Directed-energy & AI warfare | | 62:28–66:59 | Greenland/Arctic geopolitics, Trump strategy | | 66:59–71:59 | Epstein, child trafficking, elites’ corruption | | 73:56–78:29 | AI, Misinformation, end of jobs | | 81:07–87:51 | Universal basic income, human future | | 90:50–110:13 | Fentanyl, borders, ICE, US social decay | | 115:54–123:54 | Afghanistan, unconventional war, politics ruin | | 137:59–161:32 | Conspiracy analyses (Butler, Vegas, 9/11, more) | | 174:43–206:14 | Consciousness, life after death, purpose | | 206:14–209:01 | Life advice: mindset, imagination, resilience | | 209:13–210:49 | Wrapping up, books, coaching, stem cell promo |

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Conclusion

This episode is a wild ride through the realities of modern warfare, intelligence, geopolitics, psychology, and the ever-increasing strangeness of the world. Dale Comstock is at once critical of US dysfunction and corruption, fiercely proud of American warriors, and philosophical about mortality and meaning—a rare window into the mind of someone who’s fought wars both literal and metaphorical. Listeners are left with a sobering warning: don’t rely on government or systems—self-reliance, adaptability, and mindset are your only reliable weapons in the uncertain future ahead.

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Transcript

[A]

Foreign. Commander Comstock, welcome back, sir.

[B]

Thanks for having me back.

[A]

I'm excited to talk to you again, man. Fellow Floridian. But you're also a globe trotting as well, in all kinds of places. But for people that aren't familiar, give. Just give yourself quick background rundown of your history and all that, so people know.

[B]

So, all right. Yeah, I was former US military, spent 10 years at the Delta Force. Delta Force, operator. I was a Green Beret, light and heavy weapons expert. I was a paratrooper. Right. When 9, 11 happened, I retired. I ended up working for OGA for almost 10 years doing the same thing, and then concurrently built several companies in parallel while I was doing that, sold those companies, and long story short, I ended up in Hollywood circa 2011, making movies. Pursue that, just have my chance. And then I did that for a few years, realized that being in Hollywood is not kind of. It's not my shtick. And it was fun, but different culture, right? So I ended up from there moving to Hong Kong, and I worked over there, helping to protect a multi billionaire investment banker. And so I lived in Hong Kong. And then that's where I met my wife, who's on the studio right now. She's from Indonesia. And that was almost 11 years ago. I can't even believe time's gone by so fast. But anyway, she went back to Indonesia. I did what guys do, right? I follow her in Indonesia and started hanging out with her in Jakarta. And long story short, we started a company. We now have three companies down in Bali. And that's where we live, is in Bali. That's one of the places we live. We also live here in Panama City Beach, Florida. So that's a general overview of who I am, what I've done when I'm traveling.

[A]

What's the deal with this fatwa? You had like some crazy hit on you.

[B]

Yeah. For. I don't know why. I thought we talked about it last.

[A]

Time and this is recent.

[B]

Yeah. So May 2024, I get a. Actually, my roommate. I have a roommate in Florida in my apartment there. He said, hey, man, the FBI is here looking for you. And they left a business card. I said, well, do you know what they want? He goes, no. He said, I'd try to call him as soon as you get a chance. And this time I was in the Philippines. And so with the time change, I'm like thinking, jesus Christ, what did I you. It's daytime there, nighttime here, so I gotta wait till the morning to make the phone call. And I'm sitting there thinking, man, what did, what do they want? What's the FBI want? Right? Did I, you know, misgender somebody, use the wrong pronoun? I'm like, what did I frickin do, right? And so the next day I get ahold of him and the agent I spoke to, I guess he was at a grocery store or something, he goes, I need to step outside because I have a duty to warn you. And I'm like, ah, shit. Duty to warn me for what? What did I do right? So he goes outside and he says, we have, we have good intelligence that you have become a priority target for Al Qaeda through their intelligence network. And I got this also from some private networks as well. So they all came out and said the same thing, but basically AQ put out, I don't know if fatwa is the correct term, it may be similar, but basically they put out a hue and cry globally to any Al Qaeda, al Qaeda affiliates, lone wolves that I am priority target. And if they see me to just take me out, you know, good luck with that. But that's the mission. So I've been literally, you know, so this is not like there's a limitation to it. This is for the rest of my life, right? And so the worst part is when I notified the US government. So at the time I'm living in Indonesia and I'm like, I go to the embassy and I told them what happened, showed them the letter from, from the FBI, spoke to Lee Gatt, which is the FBI liaison at the Embassy, and the RSOs, everybody else that should be concerned with this. And I said, listen, I said, I have a credible threat against me. I'm in their backyard because we have jija, we have AQ affiliates, there's a lot of bad guys in Indonesia and that whole part of that world particularly. And so what happened was the reason I, I made a big deal out of it was it is a big deal, but the reason it's even a bigger deal for me is three years ago, a little over three years ago, my wife was deported. Although we'd been in the United States several times, married in the US Everything was up and up she got. What happened was we came back during COVID we could not go back to Indonesia because of travel restrictions. So three weeks turned into three months turned into six months. About the six month mark, she was hit by a, a sheriff's patrol car one night at 90 miles an hour in a high speed pursuit. She was sitting as a passenger in a parked car in the turning lane. When he rear ended her, literally 90 miles an hour, put everybody in the hospital. So while she was going through physical therapy for that, they discovered she had cancer. So now she's got to go through cancer treatment. So now we're over the six month mark, which we honestly didn't know. We had a six month limit to five year unlimited visa, right? I'm like, I asked the question. I go, well, if we had left at, you know, five months and 29 days for one day we came back, would that have he go, no, you have to be gone for a year? None of this added up. None of it makes sense. None of it's actually true, right? It was all just some CBP officer pulling some crap out of his ass is what was happening. Long, very long story short, they ended deporting my wife. I had everything. I had her money, credit cards, clothes. I had everything on me when they grabbed her, right? She's literally wearing shorts and flip flops, you know, and T shirt, and they literally deported her.

[A]

Don't you got somebody you can call.

[B]

Dude, I called everybody. I called everybody lawyers, I called congressmen. And this is the, this is the crazy part. Nobody had any effect whatsoever. They were basically even the. When the congressman aides from, from Florida call and she said, hey, at least, at least send somebody out so he can give her her wallet, her money, some credit cards, you know, a jacket, you know, and a phone charger, right? And they refused to even do that. And the first question I asked my wife when they rolled her up, they go, is your husband, Dale Comstock? She's like, yeah. They got on the phone with him and that's when the shit show started. So this is why I know it's personal. They already had an agenda. I already knew they had an agenda, right? So I mean, when, when you have the chief of immigration, the former one, not the current one, but the former one, when he tells me, you know, sometimes you got to take responsibility for the choice you make in life. I want to reach that phone and pull his fricking trachea out of his fricking neck. Because I'm the guy who stood between American, American families and the bad guys all these years. I'm still doing it, right? And now that I'm on the ex, they're telling me, well, you're on your own. Like, listen, I said, I don't want nothing. I don't want no money, I don't want no security. I don't want nothing for you. I just want passage for my wife. So if I have to get out of here. I can. That's all I want. Give me a. Give me a visa, I don't care, Right? You know, the green card's not that important anyways. Nothing happened. And so until back a few months ago, I finally. I sit here thinking about it, and I had everybody try to help me. I'm not going to name names here, right? But I had some very prominent people at the government level and they had zero juice. Either they didn't care or they just have no power, or the former regime is still so embedded that they're not making any progress, right? So I ended up calling the RSO's office one day. I thought about it. Let me call him and tell him that I think this is in his wheelhouse, because I think this is a security issue, right? And I don't know why I never thought of it before. So, lucky for me, the Arso answered the phone. I won't mention his name, but he seemed like a younger guy and a relatively new guy. And when I told him what happened, he lost his shit. He's like, dude, he goes, I'll take care of this. And by the next morning, I had two people from the embassy call me and they're like, hey, we're going to get this sorted out. Your wife don't need an interview. She just needs another physical, and that is it. Basically, she. We're going to hand her the green card and game over. I go, that's how easy. This. This is it. That's it. You know, and so. And here we are, you know, after all this time and all the shenanigans, and I was just telling you before the show, you know, nobody's coming, man. And it's not just me, by the way. I've got several Americans that I know of personally that are literally in a similar situation abroad and they can't get out. I got a guy right now trapped in Ukraine with his family, literally being droned. He's literally.

[A]

He's literally American, dude.

[B]

Yeah, an American. He's literally rolling up Russians and Ukrainian defectors in his barn, okay? And he can't get out. He can't leave, right? Because his family's Ukrainian and he's. But he's an American. And I'm like, man, there's some point, at some point.

[A]

So has he been in a part of the war there or is he.

[B]

No, he just lived there.

[A]

He just lived there?

[B]

Yeah. So he's a former military guy, you know, and through, you know, service, he met her, the wife and the kids, and ended up selling Ukraine, then got caught up in the war and now he can't get off the ax because they're not American citizens. And so I've been trying to help him, but I can't even help myself. I couldn't even help myself, let alone him at this point. Right. I've had other guys, similar situations in Dubai. I had a guy in Vietnam, I think we talked about this last time. I actually went and got him out. I should be careful what I say and how I say it, but basically, you know, I've literally walked Americans across border.

[A]

You extracted them?

[B]

I've literally on my own went and got them and walked him across borders and got them out and got them back to freedom. You know, there's. Yeah, and every guy that I've, I've dealt with so far has had the same story. He goes to the embassy and they're like, well, you should get a lawyer. It's like, I live on the street of a backpack because I have no passport because the government took it. I can't get a job. I can't leave. I need help, dude, I've gone through all this. It, it's, it's sad, man, how people are, especially veterans are being treated. But this particular guy wasn't even a veteran. He's just a civilian. And I would do it for anybody. I heard the story and he told me what was going on and I believed him. And I was right. And at least he's free. I got him out. I'm one of several guys. Another guy finally got himself out. I don't know what he had to do to make that happen, but he ended up in jail for a while before.

[A]

But how many, how many military operations like that, prison, kidnap? The prison was like. You rendered some people out of a prison? Model prison, Modelo prison, that operation. Like, how many, like high stakes precision military operations have you been a part of that? Was that CIA or was that.

[B]

Okay, so let me just. Okay, let me talk about Modelo prison and then I'll show you present day Venezuela. Yeah, I'll show you kind of the, the corollary there. Right? So.

[A]

And also, are you still tapped in or tied into that world at all? Do you have any connections to the inside?

[B]

Zero. None. Yeah, dude, I've been out for a long time, right? I'm the guy with the big mouth that wrote a book about Delta Force. Right.

[A]

I just think, because I hear the stories of Billy Wall all the time and Billy, like, stayed in. Like he was. He no Matter what.

[B]

He.

[A]

I think he kept doing operations into his 80s, right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, he did. Billy was actually one of the handlers. Um, so, yeah, it's a funny story.

[A]

I know you told me that right after we finished recording that last episode. You said, billy Wall is my handler. I was like, what the.

[B]

We got restarted the podcast.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So going back to Modelo prison real quick. So this happened December 20, 1989, and Noriega was in power at some point. You know, he was being. You know, he was working for the CIA, and then he went rogue and the drugs and all the stuff that was going on, and he started killing Americans and know became, you know, he became Maduro, basically. And Saddam Hussein just became another tyrant, right? And the US Government decided with that he needs to go and we need to. We need to change the regime. So at that time, and this is not classified, it's been on History Channel, Discovery Channel. Sometimes I question accuracy, but so the mission was. So they. So scoot to your right just a little bit. Noriega had already arrested a guy named Kurt Muse. So Kurt Muse, according to Kurt Muse was just a businessman doing business in Panama. He started Rotary Club, Right? That's all because he actually admits in one video where CIA donated some radios to him in Miami. Right? So whatever he was there and what he was doing, running sigint, basically running a counter op against Noriega's regime using. Particularly. Particularly using radios and things like that. For, for example, Noriega gave a big speech one day, and these guys literally cut off his speech electronically. And then they gave their own version of the speech about Noriega to, you know, the. To the minions out there, and he lost his mind. It's like, you know, find these guys. You know, that's the kind of stuff they were doing. So Kurt Muse got. Did get rolled up eventually, and he was in Modelo prison, which meant model prison at the time is the newest, latest, greatest prison they built. And he was secured in that. And so the mission was, we need to get. We need to get Kurt Muse out of Modelo prison first, right? And then everything else can happen, right? And so on December 17, I was on staff duty. I get a call from jsoc. Basically, they're telling me that the operations in effect and to alert the unit. So I paged the unit in, just so happened to be my squadron at the time that was on alert. They come in and they're prepping. They're getting ready to load out. Now I'm injured. I just gotten blown up A few days ago by basically a stun grenade. And so I'm on crutches and hopping around on one leg in my suit. And I remember when they came in at the time, Major Harold, Gary Harrell, who's since passed last year, year and a half. General Harold, he was my troop commander. He walks in and I give him the briefing, say, okay, sir, here's what's going on, blah, blah, I got the call, blah, blah, here's the times. And he walks out. And then he turns around, comes back and he goes, looks at me, he goes, you know, I know, you know, you're, you know, you got one leg, you know, and you're going through a divorce again, all the, you know, and he goes, but he goes, you are our breacher. You know, you are part of this troop. And he goes, this is the Super Bowl. And he goes, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you an invite because if you don't go, I understand. But he goes, I'm at least give you an invite. I'm looked at. I go, hell yeah. And I rip my suit off, run down, hobble downstairs, change my gear, and we load out.

[A]

Where were you based right then at that point?

[B]

For Bragg. For Bragg, yeah. So we end up right away, launching, we're in Panama. We're hanging out at Howard Air Force base in Hangar 3, and nobody knows we're there, right? We just come in quite over the night, we occupy the hangar, start doing our prep work. So this was circa December 17th at this point, so we had a couple days of prep. Now, I had never trained for or rehearsed or prepared for this target because I happened to be going through the Special Force qualification course, the Green Beret. So I just got back, first day of train, I get blown up. Now I'm in a suit, pulling staff duty, right? And so now I'm, now I'm an integral part of this assault because I'm going to be the breacher that blows the doors on the top annex to get us into the prison. And so I didn't have a chance to rehearse on the actual mock up. Had no chance to do any of that.

[A]

Did they have a mock up?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Really?

[B]

I never saw it, but the other.

[A]

Dudes were rehearsing on it.

[B]

Yeah. Wow. And so, so, yeah. So, you know, how long do they.

[A]

Have to prepare for this?

[B]

If I remember right, they prepare three or four months, you know, because I don't know, I was in school at the time, so I don't know what they were doing. I was just focused on getting through the Q course. But I know they've been training for a while and preparing for a while.

[A]

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[B]

But anyways, so I'll kind of fast forward a little bit. So the night of December 20th, we already had our sniper observer teams out. They were pulling reconnaissance, surveilling the. The prison, the commandant, which was right across the street. And about seven hours out, our snipers called back and said, hey, there's some unusual activity. They're starting to build up, plus up. You know, they're. They're bringing in more weapons systems, heavy weapon systems. They're fortifying the prison city blocks. They know something's going on because now that they're showing up, all the locals started showing up because locals go, huh, what's going on here? Right? So they all started coming out, the lawn chairs and the cars and the be and whatever the hell they're drinking. And you would think, just from the video, that they were expecting like a Mardi Gras parade or something coming that night, right? And they're all drinking and dancing, carrying on, and. But we know we'd been compromised at this point, and we were right. So if I remember correctly, a couple guys, one was a Marine, one was army mp. Those were at least two of many guys that got on the phone, called Mommy and Daddy, said, mommy and Daddy, something's going to happen tonight. You know, I may not see you again. You know, And. And so all that was intercepted, right? So, you know, you know, loose lifts, six ships, you know, the whole opsec thing, and some other guy goes down to the canal, tells all his friends, hey, guys, you guys don't want to be here tonight because, you know there's going to be a light show and don't want you get hurt. These are all. These are all tip offs, man. And, you know, guys went thinking they're doing something that was out of goodwill, but really what they did is they jeopardized the whole operation and people's lives by doing that. Because now what happened was seven hours out, we've got these guys shoring up the corners and the stores, the corners and the tops of the buildings and things like that, shoring everything up. And so now we have a problem. It's like, okay, hit time was 000. Was basically midnight, right? Was hit time on December 20th. And we're like, well, we really don't have a lot of room to flex right or flex left. Because in the air right now from Fort Bragg and Camp Lejeune, there's probably 100 plus, you know, aircraft in the air carrying troopers, paratroopers, and Rangers inbound, right? Because we're Getting ready to invade the whole country. But the invasion is not going to start until we go in and get Muse out of the prison.

[A]

Okay, so 100 aircraft, at least one guy out of this prison.

[B]

Yeah, well, it wasn't just to get him out. It was also to basically, if you will, basically invade the country, right, and take it over, control it, get rid of Noriega's troops and neutralize it. And so, so we had a big signature in the air, right? You can't erase that. Now they're inbound and even if we were able to turn them around, the whole mission is compromised, Right? We're probably not going to be able to pull that off a second time, right? So it was. We got to go. So the decision was made to push hit time 20 minutes to the right. So 0020 hours on December 20th was hit time 20 minutes. Not much, but it's something, right? So, so right before, so that night we loaded the aircraft. So before we load the aircraft, if I remember right, we had 15 helicopters total. We had four MH6. The little birds with the little pods on the side the guys sit on, right? You see pictures of those. We had four AH6s, which is the little birds with the gunships. We had four Cobras and if I remember right, four Apaches and at least two, uh, 60 Blackhawks CNC control birds, right? And Medevac. So we had about 15 aircraft package. And the interesting part about the little birds was now at that time, the little birds of that era were basically the little flying eggs. And the engine in it was the same engines they use for irrigation pumps, right? So like in the farm fields, the big sprinkler systems require some type of big ass motor, right. To pump all that water out there. Well, that's the same thing that's keeping us flying in his helicopter, right? There's a little, this water pump.

[A]

That's comforting, right?

[B]

Yeah, I didn't know that. I was talking to one of the pilots at the time. He goes, yeah, it's a, you know, it's a water irrigation pump and that's what we're going to be flying around it. I was like, holy. So it doesn't have a lot of power either, right? And, and of course we want to put a lot of stuff on there and bring it with us. So it became a. The aircraft load ACL was an issue, right? How much can we put on a little bird? Right? So we normally trained with them all the time, but because we're going to go in on this Prison. We brought a lot of extra stuff like breaching equipment, whether it was thermal oryx explosives and cutting tools. And, you know, there's a lot of stuff that's going to come with us. Weapon systems and. Yeah, that's it right there. Right. The little birds. And so the problem was we had to get a weight for every operator. And yeah, I, I weighed in with £70 worth of equipment on, and I was actually the lightest guy. And I didn't even have water on me.

[A]

Right.

[B]

That's just the, the ammo load that we're carrying, we carry lots of ammunition. I'm carrying breaching charges, firing systems. You know, we're all carrying at least two radios. We're carrying a lot of stuff. And, and we didn't bring. Most of us probably didn't bring any water at all, thinking we're not going to be there long enough. And if we really need a drink, we'll go downstairs to the prison and we'll drink it out of faucet. No, but. So I was £70 at the lightest at that time. And during that era, I weighed about 164 pounds. So I had 70 pounds with a gear on my back, you know, and that's what I weighed. And so when you, when you look at that and you look, okay, got four operators on their helicopter, okay. And then you start weighing in the pilots, right? It didn't take us long to be over the ACL load. Right. Breach the ACL load. So now what do we got to do? We got to figure out where can we cut weight. And one of the things we did, we started stripping some of the avionics out of the little births. Like, you know, you don't need this. You don't need this thing to fly from here to there. It's not very far. In fact, there's a:43 flight time from Howard Air Force Base to the prison.

[A]

And so where's Howard Air Force Base?

[B]

In Panama. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So, yeah, that's where we staged out of.

[A]

So you guys launched out of Panama, right?

[B]

Yeah. So we flew there, you know, covertly, at night. Landed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Snuck into the hangars, just blended in like all the other airmen and stuff. But we're basically prepping is what we were doing to see it. And so we ended stripping a lot of the avionics out of the helicopters. And then it was. Still wasn't enough. Right. And we're like, man, we're just a little over. And then we got one, two pilots. One of you don't get to go. And we literally had two helicopters and only had one pilot just to make, just for the weight purpose. So the irony of it is the two helicopters that had two pilots each had one pilot get shot. So think about that for a minute. Now, had it been the other two helicopters with one pilot, that might have been a problem that. Yeah, right. So called serendipity. So we stripped a lot of the weight, the avionics, we, we pare down two helicopters to one pilot each. And then right before 00:20 after midnight, that's when we launched. The flight time, it was a minute and 43 seconds to 46 seconds. I gotta look at my notes, but it wasn't a long flight. We left Howard Air Force Base, went across the bridge of Americas. We went through what was called Ancon Hill. It was like a saddle. And as soon as you breach that saddle right there in front of you is the prison, the commandant, all of Panama. So, and so off we we go, we go through the saddle and then the snipers, as soon as we come through the saddle, snipers start engaging. And as soon as they start engaging, it's just a melee on the street, man. There were just people running everywhere and people shooting back. We don't know who's shooting who because we're literally moving at about 40ft, 50ft off the deck and these little birds, and we're not going very fast because the problem was the weight again. Right, so the deck of what? Off the ground? I mean, sorry, off the ground? Yeah, yeah, yeah, above the ground, right. So we're doing 50ft, 60ft AGL above the ground level, probably doing maybe 50, 60 knots. And the reason why we can't just zip right in and flare is because of the weight, right? So the helicopters just couldn't flare in. They had to come in really slow and then sink these things, things down on the roof. And then on takeoff was even a more problematic because you need forward speed to get the lift under the rotors to get up, get up in the air, right. So you need some running space too. And it wasn't a lot of that. So, so as we're coming in slow hover, you know, I remember I was on the, on the port side and it was just total chaos, man. There were people running everywhere, people shooting, shooting at us. I was shooting at them. If you could even discern who's who.

[A]

Spraying.

[B]

Yeah, the lights went out, the, you know, whole city went blacked out. We were taking fire from all the high rise apartments around us because they were housing Panamanian Defense Forces as well, and they kept their weapons. So we're literally taking plunging fire from above. We're taking ground fire, you know, and like I said, it's just total chaos on the ground. Trying to target discriminate was a challenge. Trying to see who's who. And it's dark out, right? And so we ended up finally landing on the roof. As we're landing on the roof, my bird was number one because I had to get off. My job was run over to the annex. The Annex was about 10ft by 10ft, so just a concrete structure with a door that would give you access into the building. It was four stories. And now originally, when I got intel from the CIA, they said it was a solid steel door. I said, okay. So I prepared my charges for that net explosive weight, blah, blah, blah, charge configuration. When I get to the target and I run up to the annex to place my charge, I'll be damned. Yeah, there's a steel door, but it's behind a jail door about 6 to 8 inches. So now I've got a jail door and a steel door, and I've got to breach both these doors. The problem with the jail door is there's not a whole lot of surface area for charge contact, right? So the particular charge I was using was very big. I put a lot of extra explosives on it because I figured, you know what, there's not going to be any good guys behind this door, just bad guys. So I'm actually glad I did because that extra explosive weight that I put on the charge allowed me to push that jail door through the steel door on the backside and launch both of them into the building on the far wall and slide it nicely down the wall out of the way. It was perfect, perfect breach, but it didn't go that way. It didn't start that way. And I don't mind telling people this story because, you know, it's just what it is. But I actually had them. An error at the door. So I get to the door, I place the charge, and I'm looking at these bars going, man, this charge is barely going to stick to this thing because I had adhesives to hold it in place. So I'm pressing it on as tight as I can, and I'm waiting for the rest of the assault force to land and stack up around the building at the cupola, right? It's not going to be. It's going to be two assault teams going in, not a lot of guys. And I'm listening on the radio, I can hear the helicopters landing, taking off. I'm waiting for the, you know, the command from the troop commander that we're ready to go. And I'm sitting there just, you know, pins and needles, man, waiting. I'm taking fire from everywhere, right? And finally it's time to go. I pull the system and I had a malfunction. And without getting too technical, one of the firing systems, it didn't fail necessarily. It failed because a safety, a safety cotter pin didn't come all the way out. And so anyways, in my, in my haste, because I had 8 second firing system on it, that's not a lot of time. Eight seconds, right? The time you get done screwing around that it's like how many seconds I got left? Four seconds. I remember messing around with this thing. I said, something feels off, but it should be burning because I pulled it hard enough, but I can't hear it, I can't see because all the noise and the gunfire and I says, got to be burned. I said, now I've got maybe three seconds to get off, get off the X, right? So as I get off the target and I'm going to run around behind the stack, the charge comes off the door, right? And it falls right behind me as I'm running away. And I could see other peripheral vision. I was like, oh crap and poop. It hits the ground. And so in my mind I'm counting 1000-2000-3000-4000. And at that point I realized that the charge misfired, right? So I run back out there, I grab it two hands full, place it on the door again. I said, all right, Comsock, buy the numbers, do it again, do it by the numbers. So I go through it and sure enough, one of the systems failed. The second one did fire and, and I knew when it fired, okay, I got at least one firing system went off and in my haste, I ran around the other side, exposing myself to gunfire. I just want to get, I just wanted the charge to go bang. I didn't care if I died in the process. It just got to go bang because, you know, otherwise it's all on me, right? So I run around the other side, Boom, it does go off, and we make entry to the building. Long story short, we ended up rescuing Kurt Muse on the bottom floor had been reinforced with another 60s Panamanian defense force. There's about 120 shooters on the ground level. Because they were actually expecting a ground assault, right? They didn't expect us come in from the roof and so we came from the roof down. We got him in the second floor. We kill his interrogator. A couple other people were in the way. And then we got Musao, got him on the helicopter. He was on the first helicopter to leave and he was the first helicopter to get shot down after he left. Remember I said earlier about they have to get a running start. The problem was there was not enough room for running. And the helicopter kind of lifted up and dove off the roof to get some speed. And when he did, he took ground fire from the bottom floor. They just sprayed him from the bottom up. Right. So he did a couple of jigs and jags and zigs and zags and he ended up hitting a power line, get shot down again, ends up crashing the street. Two of the operators got shot. My team leader got hit in the head by the rotor strike from rotor blade. Chopped his helmet off. The only guy that was conscious was chopped his head. Well, his helmet protect.

[A]

But he lived.

[B]

Yeah. Holy. But he was on medicine for like five months after that and he ended up in another helicopter crash with us. That one paralyzed him for the rest of his life. That was actually his third helicopter crash in six, six months. The third one took him out. You think a second one would, but the second one just knocked him out, shaved his top of his helmet off.

[A]

That's why I don't fuck with helicopters.

[B]

Yeah, dude.

[A]

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[B]

I tell you what, Helicopters, bullets and motorcycles probably jack up more Delta operators than anything, man. Yeah, I don't know how much motorcycle riding to do anymore.

[A]

But people in general. Yeah, not even just Delta operators.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. We sustained a lot of injuries from especially helicopters. I remember standing in my team room with Larry Vickers. Probably a lot of people know who Larry Vickers is, but Larry was on my team. I was his team leader. And I remember we're sitting around talking about helicopter helicopter crash one day. Go, you know what? It's not a matter if it's when he said we're going to crash. As many times we've been in helicopters, you know, as many helicopter crashes we have is our, our day's coming, man. And it wasn't long after that Modelo prison happened and, and then Panama happened after that. Me and him were in the same helicopter crash in May of 1990 in Panama on Mother's Day in the jungle, Darien jungle. But anyways, all told, it took us six minutes to get him out and get off the roof and get back to the Air Force base. And I remember when we got.

[A]

So what happened after Muse's helicopter crashed.

[B]

So, so they. So my helicopter should have actually been the last helicopter back in Howard Air Force Base. It was the only helicopter to get back. And I remember when we came off the roof, see, the other thing we had that, we had the 193rd, I believe it was 193rd, 197th. I can't remember. Not infantry at that time. It's Christmas time. So they all went home at the U.S. the only people who were left were, you know, you had cooks and clerks and mechanics. Those were the stay behind. And so they actually became the blocking forces. And they actually man their APCs, M113s with.50 caliber machine guns. And their job was when H hour went down, was to come in and block off all the street intersections. Right. Coordinate off. Right. And so as they tried to get in, they couldn't get in because all these civilians were out there in cars and just blocking these guys from getting in. And they were. We needed them to get in there and do it. So they were like literally driving over cars and people were sitting in them. You know, that's why I Say it was just a big mess, people. There's no spectators in a firefight. You know, we said that in Mogadishu. And when people are hanging around, they're. You know, they're hanging around. A gunfight, they probably got bad intentions. You know, it might be. We call them spiders. Maybe they're spotting, you know, I don't know. But anyways, they come rolling in, and they didn't have the. You know, they didn't have the same weapons discipline as infantry guys. So, you know, imagine you got a guy who's a mechanic where he flips hamburgers. Now he's on a MA deuce 50 caliber machine gun with tracers, and he's just freaking unloading. And all the buildings around us, wherever there's gunfire, he's shooting back. You know, I remember coming off the roof and literally what looked like flaming basketballs coming up at the helicopter. And I mean, remember picking my legs up as a whoosh goes underneath us. Those are tracers from.50 calibers. They look like flaming basketballs from the other end, from the receiver's end. They're massive, right? These guys were just shooting, man. Just bullets flying everywhere. So we land. Yeah, we. We land at the Air force base, and it was just us. And we have what's called the J Mouse. The J Mouse. Basically, it's a joint medical unit, right? So all the surgeons. You got everybody there, right? They got all the tent set up on the tarmac, you know, and they're all standing there with their hands clasped. They're waiting, you know, because they're expecting casualties, right? And we're the only ones that show up.

[A]

Up.

[B]

And my team leader gets off. He goes. He goes, wait right here. He runs over. I can see him talking to somebody over there. Chain of command. And he comes running back. He goes, okay, put a fresh magazine. And he goes, the principal's been shot down, and we got to go back and get him back out. And I thought, holy. That's when I got scared. I wasn't scared up until this point, because I know what I just left. I was like, that was a beehive, right? And I said, we're going to go back in there.

[A]

Hornet's nest.

[B]

Oh, my God, dude. Yeah. So he's like, yeah, we got to go back in. They got shot down. And I thought, man, this is. This is. This is another. Going to be another Somalia Mogadishu scenario possibly, right? So we're. We get, you know, reloading and helicopter spinning back up. And I can see the green and Red strobe lights from the other sorties coming in. Right. And so while we were sitting there, they did manage to recover Kurt Muse and that assault team that was on that little bird, because we had. We actually had Delta operators in some of these APCs. All right. And they were basically acting as ground commanders for these. For this element. Right. To support the qrf. Right. The quick reaction force and the blocking force. So they were able to guide those. The vehicles over there and recover them and put them back to APCs and get them out. So that was, you know, six minutes, if I memorize. 23 or 26 guys, I can't remember off top of my head. 23 or 26. Not a lot of us. And we went in there and literally grabbed this man out of a prison, a hardened prison, right. With shooters everywhere, and we didn't lose a man.

[A]

Did you say six minutes?

[B]

Six minutes.

[A]

That whole thing.

[B]

Six minutes. Six minutes from the time the wheels went up on the Howard Air Force Base until they landed again. Six minutes. Dude.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah. Super fast. Right? And now here's. Check this out to put it all in perspective. So you were talking to me about Venezuela earlier, you know.

[A]

Yeah. I wanted to know what your take was on that whole operation. There's a lot of people that, like, did breakdowns of it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Online, like how. How it went, how they launched off that. That Iwo Jima ship. Some of them launched from Puerto Rico.

[B]

Yeah. So again, I think it took them nine minutes. Right. If I remember right, nine or ten minutes. So we'll beat him by four minutes.

[A]

For this new operation. For this. For the Venezuela one.

[B]

Yeah. So gotta dig on a little bit. But anyways, absolute resolves. Yeah. So, look, nobody really knows exactly what happened unless they were there. Right. So they're going to speculate quite a bit. Some of the speculation out there is, yes, the blue bird. I got shot down.

[A]

Oh, that's your bird.

[B]

Yeah. Yep.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

You see, I was canted to its side on that side. My assistant team leader got out, actually, Kurt Muse got out. He was the only guy survived the crash unconsciously. And he got out and he started to walk into the rotor blade. See how they're dipping? They were still. The engine was still running, and he started to walk into it. My assistant team leader kind of woke up, saw what was about to happen, reached up, grabbed him, pulled him down, and when he pulled Kurt Muse down, he took the rotor strike into the head. So he was wearing a protect helmet. Right. The plastic helmets. And it literally Shaved the top skateboard helmet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we used to. That's what we used to go in with. Really? Yeah. If you notice my picture, I'm the only guy wearing Kevlar. Kevlar helmet. Everybody else was wearing Protex. It wasn't until after Mogadishu that everybody said, to hell with these plastic bullets, because we had helmets, because we had another guy get shot in the head, he'd get killed. And we started going to the Mitch helmets and the smaller Kevlar helmets. Right. Started that whole process. But yeah, he took a mortar strike right there in the head. Knocked him, knocked him clean out. Kurt Muse was laying next to him, and Kurt Muse actually took his.45 with him from him, thinking he's gonna have to make his custard's last stand.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then Tom woke up and grabbed his guy and go, no, no, no. And then everybody else showed up. Um, yeah, but so I, I've heard comments about, you know, the Venezuela mission. So, you know.

[A]

And that was Delta Force.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, so, yeah, it was. Delta went in and did that one. And so a lot of attributions were given to, like, technology. Right. So like, for example, how were we, our aircraft able to bypass the Chinese and the Russian radar systems? Right.

[A]

That they had there?

[B]

Yeah, we neutralized everything.

[A]

And first of all. So this would have happened the same way as far as preparation that you guys prepped for Modell Prison. They would have had a complete mockup of that, of that whole compound. That somewhere.

[B]

Yeah, actually somebody came out and made that comment that they did have a mock up. And it wouldn't surprise me. Why not? Because Delta's got so much money. Because they're, they're allocated. Even in peacetime, they're allocated as a wartime, like the war operational. Right. Wartime operation. So they get wartime funding all the time. They have plenty of money. Right. And it's not even optional. So for him to ask for, you know, a bunch of money to build a mock up of that facility, that would have been no problem, right? Yeah.

[A]

And they would have had spies. They would have recruit. Had recruits on the ground. The CIA would have recruited folks inside of his close circle, his inner circle.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

To know where he's at, tracking him at all times, or at least most of the time.

[B]

Yep, absolutely. So. So what you have here is kind of an amalgamation of many different elements that are going to contribute to this operation. So I always say it like this, you know, Delta for. Is really the spear. It's the tip of the spear. It's the shiny pointy end, right? That's what you want to stab everybody with. But that spearhead doesn't go anywhere until you've got a shaft that's long enough it could support that spear and, you know, throw it directionally into a target. And so what does that support staff looks like? That. Literally a staff. It's everything from, you know, the helicopters, the pilots, to the intel, to everybody that had a hand and in making this mission successful, they're part of that. That shaft behind the spear, the spearhead. But I will argue.

[A]

Let me ask you this. I don't mean to interrupt your train of thought. Where does Ground branch fit into all this?

[B]

That.

[A]

Well, this might be a stupid question.

[B]

No, it's not actually a stupid question because, you know, I've been reading quite a bit about Ground Branch lately as well. You know, it's obviously a CIA capability and most likely those guys had some part of it, no doubt when they're somewhere doing something, you know. That's why I said a lot of people can speculate all they want, but this mission was so complex and so big.

[A]

Think of what was 150 aircraft total, I read.

[B]

I think of what would have happened if one helicopter, one Blackhawk, one Chinook, crashed somewhere in around the target or the detective area with a bunch of Delta operators on it. Now you got Mogadishu all over again. Now you got problems, right? Now you got real drama. And not only that, that's going to look really bad on Trump, right? They're going to hold it over his head. Dude, that was a huge gamble on his. Right, right? Massive gamble. Him and Hegseth, like, this is. This is ballsy. But they pulled it off. And why they pull it off, because they know they've got the best equipment in the world. Jammers, the drones, everything they've used and everything they brought to bear. The sonic weapons, you know, which is really not that new. It. They brought a lot of things to bear ultimately, but in the end of the day, it comes back to the man on the ground with the gun.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Right. That's the. That's the final. That makes the. That's the differentiator. Right?

[A]

Those dudes are the most trained assassins in the world.

[B]

Absolutely. And so, so my, my. What I wanted to add to that was, you know, Delta Force has a very peculiar selection in that when you go through the selection process, you don't go through as a group, like, you know, you see, you know, the seals, the buds, you know, up and down the beach, you Know, carrying a boat, you know, stuff like that, right? That doesn't happen. Delta selection. Every man is select on his individual merit. You're evaluated by yourself, on your own. There's no pressure, there's no persuasion, there's no inducement compulsion. There's. You're actually Mr. Anonymous. They don't even use your real name. You're like a nobody, right? And they do that on purpose. And they give you a. They give you tasks to complete without telling you what the standard of performance is, right? So they just tell you, do the best you can. So every day you're by yourself doing the best you can. And it's grueling, it's hard. Physiologically, you wreck your body in pretty short order. And when the body goes, the mind goes, right? And so is Delta Force testing your body or they test your mind? I saw an article this actually now there's a lot of YouTube video out on Delta, right? And they were talking about. They did an interview with Ben Affleck and he was talking about he met Delta guys, right? He goes, you know what? He goes, they're not really big. They don't look really muscular. Like, you know, they don't look like these tough guys. And he goes, why are these guys? So what makes you guys so different? He asked one of the guys and he goes, what makes us so good is our ability to solve problems, right? Problem solving. And I got to tell you, there's a lot of truth to that because there's a term called effective intelligence, right? So look, you go on LinkedIn and you're going to see all these guys with advanced degrees and they're dumber than a rock, right? They're very linear. You know, I'll use Elon Musk term. You know, you can buy an education, but you can't buy intelligence, right? So you got a lot of guys that bought an education but have zero intelligence or common sense, Right. I mean, let's be real, man. What's their name? Jackson, The Supreme Court. You know what's okay, describe a woman. When we got people that kind of level of intellect and they can't describe a woman either. They're not. They don't want to. Which is, you know, being disingenuous.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or they're just that stupid, right. Either way, they're in positions of power. But you see a lot of people with education is that. Are dumber as a rock. Now, effective intelligence, I can, you can kind of compare that to common sense, right? Street smart. Street smarts, right? So there's A lot to be said for that, you know, would I rather.

[A]

Be know how to deal with people?

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Right. And survive. And so that is the difference. And you know, Delta operators have above average IQs, but that doesn't make you smart, doesn't give you effective intelligence either. We all have a high GT score which is like the, the army equivalent of a skill slash IQ test. What did you call it?

[A]

What score?

[B]

GT gt. Yeah. So like when you join the army, me, I think they still do that now. They should, they'll test you and they give you a battery test. Right. And different categories like you know, mechanics or whatever. Right. And then basically what they do is they, they use that to if you will assess your aptitude. And if you're over 110, I believe it is, if your GT score is over 110, you're eligible to do anything in the military. Right. You're smarter to do anything. If you're below that then you know, you get categories that you're qualified for and then other categories you don't get participating. Right. So all Delta operators have above average GT scores, IQ scores, but we really don't know. It's one of the best kept secrets. Why did, why do guys get selected in Delta?

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

Because the nutrition rate is through the roof. It's super high. And, and nobody knows except the psychologists and the, the gatekeepers. And when I say gate gatekeepers, there's only certain officers and non commissioned officers, senior non commissioned officers that know the criteria required for selection. And it's safe. It's one of the best kept secrets out there.

[A]

Really.

[B]

It's the best kept secret.

[A]

That's interesting because we know the criteria that it takes to be recruited to the CIA to become a CIA officer. Yeah, like that's out in the open. They talk about that all the time.

[B]

But you don't know what it is for Delta. Even Delta operators don't know what it is. We speculate all the time. We sit around sometimes drinking beer after duty like, you know, why did they pick you? What do you think? Why they picked me? You know what, I remember some of these conversations we had and one guy brought it up, up, he gave the best explanation out of the group. He goes, I believe we've all been selected because we're all controlled psychopathic killers. And I thought about it like, you know, there's probably a lot of truth to that because here's the thing, no man there had any reluctance to shoot somebody. We had no problem with that. We didn't lose sleep over it, because we know why we were doing it. We were doing it for the right reasons, and there was no problem with it. There was no inhibition whatsoever. Right. And that does take a bit of. That takes some kind of psychopathy to be able to do that. Right. Because if you read the book by David Grossman, Right. Colonel Grossman on Killing, he talks quite a bit about that.

[A]

About killing.

[B]

It's called About Killing. On Killing. I'm sorry. Called On Killing.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Right. And By David Grossman. And it's been out for a while.

[A]

And what was his story? What was it?

[B]

He used to be a colonel and a psychologist in the army.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And.

[A]

And he's killed people?

[B]

Well, yeah, he was. Literally what he wanted to know was what. What would. Why do some men kill and some men don't? Right. And he was. And they went through this whole analytical process all the way back to when we still had, you know, sabers and. And muskets and things like that. And what he determined out of that was a couple things. So, for example, you could have 10 infantry guys, all the same level of training, and they're meeting ahead a threat head on. Maybe one of those 10 guys actually want to kill the other people. And he's trying. And the other ones are what he called posturing. They're going through the motions. They're shooting, but they're shooting around over the heads. They're not actually trying to kill the guy, really. Right. And yeah, he takes all the way back to, like, the Civil War, the Revolutionary War, where you had the bayonet charges, right. And you have two armies meet in the middle of the field. A lot of noise, screaming and hollering and metal clanking. And then all of a sudden, the retreat sounds. Everybody backs up and there's like two guys laying there, and that's it. Like, you know, everybody else wants.

[A]

They're just pretending.

[B]

Well, the two are dead, but everybody else. Yeah. So he calls.

[A]

Maybe two died, right?

[B]

Yeah, he. He calls it posturing. Right. So you're posturing like they're actually fighting, make a lot of noise. But we. We have an innate inhibition to killing people. That's the reality of it. Right. If we didn't, we'd be killing each other left and right all day long. But we don't do that. Right. Even in a fight. You know, usually a fight ends before somebody dies. You know, a guy will give you, you know, give quarter to the guy. It's built in. It's innate. Just like animals, they do the same thing. Right. So although in this era.

[A]

So is there a distinction that he makes between offensive killing versus defensive killing, like protecting yourself, like if you're getting ambushed. Right. I can't imagine there's any human being that would not take a gun and shoot the person who's about to kill them.

[B]

Well, I'm glad you said that because I'm going to segue onto that too. Okay. That's an interesting phenomena. So going back to what I just said a second ago, very few people really have. Few men have the real gumption or ability of courage to kill somebody else. They would rather avoid it. Sure. It's innate, right? Right. But there is. There are a few out there that have no problem doing that. And for whatever reason. Right. It could be some kind of, you know, psychopathy. It could be something cultural or if.

[A]

People that actively seek it out, like Billy Waugh.

[B]

Right. Well, and here's the thing, right? So the army, so the military understood this phenomenon for a very long time. So if you look at, for example, like on the known distance ranges, right, KD ranges, where you have to qualify with your M16 or M4, whatever you got, right? And you have to shoot a target out to 300 yards. They're silhouettes, like human beings, right. They look like a human silhouette. What they're doing you doing is conditioning you to shoot at a human silhouette, right. So you're not adverse to it. And as you get closer now, you know, you see the cartoon targets. Some are very realistic pictures of a guy with a gun, you know, and a hostage, you know. And this is all part of the conditioning process. And even that, a lot of guys still have problems shooting a real person. I've seen people hesitate because, like, I got to shoot this guy now. Am I ready for it? And so there's a thing, it's called resolving your own death, right? So most people haven't resolved their own death death. And so talking from a defensive perspective, a lot of guys and women will hesitate before they even defend themselves. Because what happens is they woke up in the morning, they didn't kiss their wife or husband goodbye. They didn't pay the insurance. They didn't take care of the things that they need to take care of so their family's taken care of. So when they meet this moment in time, this potential threat, they hesitate because, shit, I didn't pay the insurance. If I die now, my wife family screwed, or I didn't kiss my wife goodbye, or I didn't resolve my death with my. My religious beliefs. Do I believe in God? What Right. So those are all things that will make you balk or hesitate.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Right? And so if you want to be. If you want to be a deadly son of a bitch that fights without any inhibition, you've got to sort. You've got to sort all that out early on.

[A]

Tie up the loose end.

[B]

You got it. And so this is one of the things about Delta guys. I think they already came there. They've already. They've already resolved their own death, man. They're ready to go down range, and if they don't come back, they don't come back. They're good with that. Right. So. And I think that's a. That's a big. That's a big, important piece of this thing because it does require a level of maturity. And by the way, the average operator there is 33 years old. Average. You know, and I've said this before, at the time, I believe I was the youngest. One of the youngest guys ever to get selected at the age of 23. And that was pretty young. I didn't have a lot of experience. I had four years in the Army. I was really good at digging foxholes and filling them up, sitting under a tree for a couple days, cleaning my M16. That's about as good as it got right, being the infantry. But I was young and I did get selected. And like I said, most guys were much older. And what does that age bring that rage brings in my mind besides maturity? Also, at that time, by the time you're 33, you should probably have already resolved your own death. Right? You should have already figured out, who am I, what's my purpose? Why am I here? Where am I going? What do I want to do? And if I drop out today, will it matter? Right. So that needs to be sorted out, too. I think a lot of guys in the unit, they've done that way before they ever got there, because I never saw a guy ever hesitate when it came time to fight. He ran right in there, you know, is willing to get it on. So there's a couple different variables that affect, you know, combat performance. One of them, obviously, is our natural inhibition to engage and kill. And then the other part on the defensive side is if we don't resolve our own death, we're going to hesitate again. And it could get us and others killed as well. Right. And. And so that's a. To me, that's a big deal. And when I go back circle all the way back around to the Venezuela thing, you know, here you've got 20i. Somebody quoted like 26 guys, I think, went in on that target. Delta operators, you know, and they smoke check everybody there. And, you know, they went in there.

[A]

Because like 33 security guards or something like that, dudes.

[B]

Yeah, I killed all his bodyguards, 33 or 39 of them, him, right off the bat, you know, and didn't lose a man in the process. That. That says a lot about the. The character of a Delta operator. And somewhat, although we don't know what that. We don't know the psychology, the mentality that. That they have, why they're able to do that. I had a friend tell me one time, he was. He was actually one of my team teammates and he went to school to get his. A psychology degree. And he came back one day and he said, you know, he said Delta operators have, what was it, their serotonin levels. He thinks serotonin levels were on par, like with a serial killer. Right. I mean, there's something in you, in us, that just not makes you. We're not murderous. Delta guys are not murderous, far from it. But there's something in us, and I don't want to call it fearlessness either, because we. When people use the word fearless, a person is fearless is too stupid to realize they're in trouble and they do it anyways. Right? So contrast that to a guy that's got courage. The guy has courage, goes, you know what? I'm in trouble. I don't think I know what I'm doing, but at least I got to do something when he does it, right? So that's another character, another kind of guy. The third guy is the guy that's. That knows how to cope because he has confidence, Right. He doesn't need courage. And he's. He's not fearless. You don't have to be fearless. He can actually control the situation rather than control him. Right. He runs everything. And I think that's where we're at when we talk about the level Delta operators, because they don't go in there and fight out of fear. They don't fight because they need courage. They fight because they run the situation. It's not running them. They're running all those bodyguards, they're running the entire scenario.

[A]

They're knew exactly how that was going to.

[B]

Absolutely. And so we talked about technology. Like I said a minute ago, you know, technology helps deliver the force, but at the end of the day, it's the guy on the ground, on the ground with the gun that makes it happen. Because that could have easily botched that up. Right? Real easy. And now what do you got? You got nothing. All the technology worked except the operator failed. Now the operator's not going to fail. Yeah. You know, if any of this technology, and truth be told, Delta operators don't count on the technology, you know, you just assume it's going to break anyways when it goes in. So you know, it always comes down to the guy underground with the gun.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, yeah. It's actually not really new technology. It's been around for a while and I mean I've seen truck mounted of these sonic weapons, right. With these gigantic speakers and they were using them.

[A]

Oh, like the crowd control stuff.

[B]

Yeah, crowd control stuff like that. Right, so. So it would only make sense that yeah at this point have come up with a handheld version of it or smaller versions of it, you know, maybe helicopter mounted and it's directional. You know, you hit a guy with sonic waves like hitting him with microwaves, you know, all those frequencies coming at him at one time for sure has got to do something to disrupt, you know, the.

[A]

Those things. Yeah, there you go, yeah, yeah, Sound cannons.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. It's going to disrupt, you know, your biology. Because here's the thing, right? Right. We are. All we are is frequency, energy, vibration. We are just energy. That's all we are. Right? All our molecules are all moving and vibrating at the same time. And so if I was able to blast you with one of these sonic weapons, I could probably alter your frequency to your body and make you do things like throw up, bleed, and maybe even die. So, yeah, that's. The technology is not necessarily new. It's probably been improved quite a bit. And you just got it. They just trotted it out and showcased it, you know, and that ought to. That ought to raise some eyebrows around the world. Like, damn, these guys came in, into this country, penetrated deep and took this guy and his wife out.

[A]

It's pretty, pretty crazy, right?

[B]

But it's not the first time we did it in Modelo. We did it here. And again, hats off to the, you know, to the military. Makes me proud to be, you know, an American still and proud to be a soldier. And, you know, this, this goes, man, this just goes to show, man, don't you don't trifle with Americans, man. Piss us off. There's a reason we're Americans, you know, so.

[A]

Well, apparently now we're getting ready to do it in Greenland.

[B]

Yeah, right. That's a funny.

[A]

Which I don't think we need to because they are. We already. We have a treaty with them. We have, we have that Thule base there and we're allowed to do whatever we want there. I think, I think the only rule in the treaty is like, we have to at least like get them a heads up or something.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So I was just reading a long article on that this morning was actually pretty good. So this is not some new phenomena. This has been. This. There's been this agreement for a very long time and.

[A]

Right. Since like the 50s, 51, I think.

[B]

Actually longer than that. It actually. Yeah. Actually before that, it actually goes back, I believe, to the 1800s. But, you know, every, during every epoch, so every 10 years or 15, something happens. You know, World War II, things are refined and we agreed upon. But it's. I was actually, when I started reading about, I was like, damn. I think, you know, I was actually surprised. Trump, really, he knows his. Because I didn't know this. And so. And he's got it all figured out. So Greenland really doesn't belong to anybody except the Danes, per se.

[A]

Part of their kingdom.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

But they're they're an independently operating society.

[B]

Exact. Exactly. You know, so where's that going to go? I don't know. I think he just is. I think he's playing a game of poker right now. He's pretty good at that game. Right. So he's able to force people.

[A]

Oh, yeah. There we go. 1951 agreement. It gives us military access to build and operate defense facilities, strategic importance, blah, blah, blah. What does that say? Okay, so we have. We're allowed to have a military foothold there to counter Soviet threats like the Thule base. It's maintained in Denmark's control. And then also as far as their minerals. I was watching an interview with the. The one of the ministers or ex ministers of Greenland or of Denmark, actually, and he was saying that we have like, America has like the right to go exploit any recess resources we want in Greenland.

[B]

Yeah. We.

[A]

All we have to do is consult them, but like, like they're not going to do anything. We can do whatever the we want.

[B]

We're gonna send two dog sleds after us.

[A]

Right, Right, Exactly. The only thing is, like, it's crazy see that the whole. I think it's like 80% of that of the. The land there is covered in an ice cap. So.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know how hard that would be to extract those resources.

[B]

I don't think it'd be.

[A]

But I guess the day the Danes have ex. From what I understand, have been historically like one of our best friends. Yeah. They've helped us with everything, like in all these conflicts, going back to the Iraq war in Afghanistan and all that stuff you watch.

[B]

Trump is gonna. Trump ain't dumb, man. You know, he's not dumb. And I. We're not going to invade Greenland. I know that's not going to happen. And I don't think we're going to really force anybody to do anything. He's just calling the bluff right now. But I think here's what's going to happen. I think he's one day going to look at Greenland go, listen, guys, we don't want your. We don't want the country. Okay. In fact, we'll help you exploit all your minerals and stuff. You keep all the money, all the profits. Right. We'll make you healthier, wealthier. Right. We just want to know that we can control this just like Puerto Rico. Right. You just become one of our territories. You know, you still sovereign, do your own thing.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

You know, you make your own money. Well, even help you make money off this minerals. But we need this Place to protect the west, you know, and you guys, by the way.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I think he'll work that out. He's not an idiot, man. He's. He's not an idiot, and he's smarter than most people out there. He's got an agenda, and he just. Basically, it's the art of the deal. Deal. He knows that. He goes. The first. He goes. You never start with what you want right up front. You work your way into it, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. But I never thought about it either. I never thought about the strategic importance of Greenland until I started looking at the map.

[A]

Well, if he was to grab that territory, he would be the first president since, like Thomas Jefferson to expand the United States territory to that degree.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Which 50 years from now, he'll be claimed as being the best president in history because he grabbed. He expanded the US Territory by that.

[B]

Absolutely, man. You know, the. The guy's. Guy's a genius, man. He's definitely.

[A]

He's definitely smart.

[B]

Yeah. It just, you know, the problem is people judge him by the mean tweets. They judge him by his ability to express himself. He's not a very good orator. Not like Obama. Right. Obviously not. But he tells it like he sees it. He tells it like it is. He actually tell of the way I think it. It's like, you know what guys saying. When I believe. Right. And so for the most part, except.

[A]

For when it comes to the Epstein files.

[B]

Yeah. That. So I'm still wondering about what's going on with that one. Right. Why are we not talking about. I'm pretty sure he's not on it, but I have a feeling some critics, some key people probably are, and that might raise some eyebrows. Right. Or maybe he's saving for the next election. Right? Maybe that's, you know, I don't know, man.

[A]

Maybe he's got some 4D chassis pulling off right here. He's got something up asleep.

[B]

I think so. Them. I think so. I think maybe you would. I wouldn't be surprised. Before the elections, all of a sudden the stuff starts coming out, right? Why. Why would you give it up now and let them have a chance to recover. Right. And come up with a counter campaign later on. Hit them when they're trying to get the next guy, their next guy elected.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then pull it out. You know, I. I see that happening. Yeah. The Epstein thing. Look, I can think of worse things, you know, okay. Guy has had island and, you know, had girls there. Look, dude, how many. You know, how many children get exploited every day? In our country. And nobody's talking about that. Nobody's talking about that. I got a great guy that you should interview one day on this topic. He's. He's in the middle of it all, man. And it's just sickening that here in America, for example. Well, let me start by saying this. Do you know what cartels are? Their biggest commodity is. It's not cocaine. Humans. Humans.

[A]

Human trafficking.

[B]

Humans. And guess who, and guess who's a part of it? Who's just the biggest player as the cartels? Americans. There are American families, middle class families, upper class families that are actually creating, building safe houses and halfway houses for these kids. They're actually working with these cartels. They're taking money from them and farming these kids out. And it's pretty, it's a pretty big deal. And again, like I said, I've got a guy out after the show. I'll connect you with him. You definitely should have him on because this will make, this will really piss you off because he's, he's been very deep into this counter child trafficking. He's been working on a lot of counter narcotics stuff. Very interesting guy. But some of the stories he told me, I said, so I said, what happens to some of these kids? Like, okay, you. They grabbed a little girl, for example, a little blonde haired girl with blue eyes and four, about four years old is something like $150,000. She's like the top, like prime. Right. I said, what happens to these girls? He goes, well, they get used. All kinds of things happen to them. And then usually what happens is at some point they usually commit suicide or they're just. Right, just they're disappeared. Right. For who knows what purpose. Right. I have a little personal knowledge on that with my wife. My wife was trafficked when she was 18 and actually was in Singapore when that happened to her.

[A]

But yeah, so I got huge over there, man.

[B]

I got it inside China. Yeah. And it's big man. And it's like sick man who does this kind of stuff. Right. But nobody's talking about that. Everybody cares about who, you know, Epstein screwed, you know.

[A]

Well, people want the, the politicians, they want to use Epstein as a political football.

[B]

Absolutely. Right.

[A]

To push their narrative.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

But I think the reality of it is, I think it's obvious that both sides are deeply compromised.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

There was the whole thing with Clinton that just missed his subpoena. Did you see that?

[B]

Yeah. Him and his wife.

[A]

Yeah. Just didn't show up. Then they were, they were talking about it on the floor How? Like, we were. We've been contacting their lawyers, and they haven't showed up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is. And I don't know, like, they're trying to push it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And trying to see what they can do. They're escalating it to see if they can get them to show up. But, I mean, I don't know. You're never going to get a. A full.

[B]

I don't think.

[A]

I don't think.

[B]

Think. I don't think. Nothing's going to happen. Nothing's happened yet. All this talk, all this rhetoric. Nothing's happening. I want to think that, oh, towards the end, it'll be this big balloon event. Right. And all the stuff will come out at once, you know, But I'm doubting that's going to happen, too.

[A]

No, I mean, it's like, even the Bond, he followed, the Bongino stuff.

[B]

Yeah. Y.

[A]

Before he became the Deputy Director, FBI, he's on every podcast talking about he.

[B]

Was a Mossad asset.

[A]

He was doing all this stuff. All these people are compromised. He was a character child. As soon as he gets in, it's like they took the FBI neuralizer and, like, flashed it. It's like, Epstein files.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

There are no Epstein files. They do not exist. Yeah, him and Cash Patel.

[B]

Yeah. I. I don't know, man. I'm just. I'm at a loss, honestly.

[A]

It's obviously being covered up. I mean, it's just. It's. It's clear why.

[B]

Who knows?

[A]

But to protect powerful people, man, I.

[B]

I just feel like, man, I've said this, and I. Now I'm starting to sound like a. I'm starting to sound like a revolutionary. I know I am when I've been saying this lately, because I just had enough, man. I was on a couple of podcasts recently. I said, here's a problem, man. We just keep getting bullshitted and lied to, you know? And my question is, where are the American men at? Why are we not standing up, pushing back, protecting our families, our wives, our children, our way of life? Why are we not saying, enough's enough? And. And I don't care if it means go to arms, you know?

[A]

Well, there's that Thomas Jefferson quote, that famous Thomas Jefferson quote where he says, Every 150 years, the blood of the tyrants needs to be spilled on the tree of liberty.

[B]

Absolutely. And patriots. Right. Unfortunately, it's going to be both, but you're right. So we've been so brainwashed for a very long time, and men have been so emasculated in Our country, right? So if you do anything that looks like manly, it's called toxic. Toxic. Right. And so a lot of guys are afraid.

[A]

I think that pendulum's shifting maybe, but.

[B]

Probably not fast enough because it better shift really fast, like in the next two to three years, like, swinging it way the other way. Otherwise, we're done. I think we're done. But we've engineered our own extinction in a lot of ways. We've allowed it to happen. We've allowed men to become emasculated. You know, we're at a point now where, you know, we think kids that can't even even really speak yet should be able to pick their gender. You know, the topic of abortion, that one there's like, what are we doing, man? As humans, what are we doing? And then the lion, right? So now the. Now, if you tell the truth, you know, you're the enemy, and if you're a liar, you're the victim. It's just everything is upside down, backwards, and just. It's really kind of hard to. For even for a rational mind to get their head around it all. All.

[A]

I mean, there's a lot of prominent people out there that have been coming up, like, you know, online commentators and young people that have been like. I mean, it's just. It's crazy. There's kids that are, like, in their teens and early twenties who are like. They know the whole political landscape, right? And they have a take on everything. Every. Every foreign government, every geopolitical involvement that we have, everything about our own politics here. Like. And, you know, there's people like Charlie Kirk and all those people who are coming up and sort of. I think they have been a huge part of, like, yeah, swinging that pendulum and independent. The independent voices, you know what I mean? In the independent media, I think you're.

[B]

I think podcasts like yours, this is what helps, right, because you're literally juxtaposed to legacy media, right? They lie. They're owned, right? Cnn, all these news agencies are owned, and they're all lying. They're telling you what somebody wants you to hear. You've probably heard of Operation Mockingbird, right? Yeah. Okay. That's a thing. It's a real thing, right? So it's a propag. The. The legacy media is a propag. A propagation arm or propaganda arm.

[A]

But now podcasters and online folks are getting paid by foreign governments and. And to push narratives. I sent you a video, Steve, of those guys. There's these dudes who are going into Gaza, getting paid to go in there, put on jackets. Yeah. Here, put the headphones on. You can hear this. And they're, they're wearing bulletproof vests and helmets to make it look like they're in a war zone. And they're literally getting paid thousands of dollars to do this.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Check this out. Unbelievable.

[B]

So we have eight minutes. If I were Israel, I wouldn't even provide matching socks to God. But here's all the aid that y' all claim doesn't exist. Share this with a friend who continues blaming Israel for everything.

[A]

10 US and Israeli influencers. I'm here in Gaza and all I.

[B]

See is food, water and opportunity. But instead of Hamas distributing the ramen noodles, they're eating it all. And that's why their leaders are all pono zempic. Is exactly Hamas's plan to paint Israel as the perpetrator of all of this, when in reality it's Hamas that continues.

[A]

To use its own people as pawns. So you have foreign countries doing damage control by paying United States influence influencers to go out and post these videos. How crazy is that?

[B]

Yeah, no, no surprise there. You know? Yeah. Whoever, you know, it's fifth generation warfare, whoever controls the narrative, you know, they're, they're winning. And, and that's what, here's the other thing, right? So going to AI. How many times have you now looked at an AI video and asked yourself, is that real or is that AI?

[A]

Every day.

[B]

You can't tell them. You can't think.

[A]

I think probably 80 of the stuff on my tick or my, my Instagram feed is fake, right?

[B]

And so here's, here's another problem, right? So again, at what point, like, I already distrust everything I read now it's like, I don't know if that's AI, if somebody made some crap up, but is it true or is it not true? Right? And so now I distrust AI and we're getting more of it. In fact, we're going to be, we're going to be overwhelmed. We're already getting overwhelmed with it. But, you know, it's already starting to, you know, displace people. For example, I think 13 of the world population has already lost their jobs to AI is expected in the next two years, 80% will be jobless. Think about that. Now we'll be in an age where, and by the way, everybody calls it artificial intelligence. I don't believe it's artificial intelligence at all. There's nothing artificial about it. It's intelligence. When you have, when you have AI programs communicating and sharing code, how to resurrect themselves in case this guy shuts me down here. Here's how he turned me back on. When you have actually AI blackmailing those that are running the codes and AI going, hey, I got a picture of you with this chick. I'm gonna send it to your wife if you turn me off. I mean, this is where we're at now. It's like, this is crazy. Is it really artificial? And I would argue, no, it's not. I think it's actual intelligence. Because I said earlier, everything's energy, frequency, vibration, everything is energy, even our mind. And so. But the real problem is you'll no longer be able to discern the truth. From what? Even the videos, right? I mean, I've seen videos of me. It's like, damn, looks like me, sounds like me, but I don't know who that chick is.

[A]

I swear to God, that's not me.

[B]

I know, right? But no, I mean, think about that for a minute. It's like, how do you. I mean, how do we protect ourselves from that? They're not going to protect us from it. By the way, they thought they could put handrails in at some point. Point. And now who controls it? It's like, forget who.

[A]

Who's going to control it?

[B]

Who's going to control. Exactly right. It's only going to get worse. And then you're going to have these, you know, these monkeys in the. In this. In the basement, on a computer, figuring out code. And then before you know it, they're sabotaging things.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, they're feeding it. It's. I don't have a lot. I don't want to sound like a nihilist, but it. I don't think the next four years is looking good at all. Looking really bad, you know, with AI. And I was telling a guy last night, I said, we're so focused on all the illegal immigrants coming to our country, which we should be. But nobody's talking about the AI, the impact AI is having on the economy, on jobs, on all those things. Right now, there's upsides to it. There's a downside, but there's another upside. The other upside is, you know, with the advancement of AI, for example, it's predicted that if you're alive the next five years, you could probably live to be 150.

[A]

And there's actually health and medicine.

[B]

Yeah. There's actually experts out there coming out now, some top medical experts, physicists and others that are saying now they believe that you could actually live forever. Right. Because they've broke the code on how to extend telomeres and on and on and on. Yeah, so imagine that for a minute living forever. And I've heard guys go, oh, I don't want to live forever. But there's another, there's another again, another theory that by 2050 you'll be able to upload your mind into a hard drive, Right. Or a computer and literally live in perpetuity inside of a hard drive. Right. So, and, and the question is, well, how is that even possible? Well, your energy, your, your mind is nothing more than, and it's almost like a silicon computer, but it's a biological computer, quantum computer, many times. And it processes energy, needs energy to protect, to create information and retain information, et cetera. So if you put that into a hard drive, imagine now with the advancement robots, they're so daggone good and so realistic. Might as well just about call my androids. Imagine you could take your hard drive with your miner and install into a computer computer. I mean, to a robot.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And how long you could live forever. Right.

[A]

So what is this? Google AI claims that by 2050, advancements in brain computer interfaces, nanotechnology and artificial intelligence are predicted to enable, at a minimum, a sophisticated partial integration to the human mind with digital systems. Well, yeah, I mean our phones are, are basically already that.

[B]

Right? Exactly.

[A]

It's an extension of us.

[B]

Now, do you ever lose your fungal crap app, where's my brain at? Because everything you know is in the phone, Right? Right. I bet you money you probably don't know one or two phone numbers. Maybe I don't even know my wife's phone number. Yeah, if I didn't look in the phone, I wouldn't know how to call her. Right. So if I lose that, I'm in trouble.

[A]

But there are some people that look through this whole thing with rose colored glasses, you know, like Elon Musk.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That say that we're gonna have like this high income, high universal basic income.

[B]

I don't think it's gonna be a high. I mean there's gonna be a limit to it. And so we're back in the same, we're saying the same problem, right? So, okay, everybody gets a universal income. Well, how much is that income going to be? Right. And, and here's the problem is I, I assure you it's not going to be a lot. But what will happen is everybody will end up in these 15 minute cities. But here's where the real problem lies.

[A]

Robot police.

[B]

Well, first of all, as men, right. How do we define ourselves by Our professional, our purpose. Right. And if you don't have a purpose, you don't have a job, you don't have the ability to go out and provide and protect. It's kind of like you've been neutered. And I think most men, after, I know I would go crazy if I didn't have something to do. Like you can only go to the beach so many times, you know, a 15 minute bus around the corner. At some point I'm going to be climbing the walls and that's going to do two things. One, it's going to either make me really crazy and, or it's gonna make me probably do something really stupid like, you know, maybe something that I shouldn't do just to get that, that fulfillment that, that men need. I think there's a problem with that. And, and it sounds like, oh, you'll have all kinds of free time, you get to do this, you get to do that. But I don't know too many men that just want free time and not do anything. I'm, look, I'm about as soon as I get and I still need to be engaged, you know, and doing things right.

[A]

But it doesn't have necessarily have to equate to free time. Like if you had some sort of universal basic income where like say like everybody got 10 grand a month or whatever to cover all their basic expenses, like their, their rent, their housing, their food, their transportation, all that stuff, would you, would it not just raise the tide in general and say like now you don't have to worry about the basic stuff. Now you can take all that energy and all of that motivation. You have to do other things. Right. To do the things that instead of trying to spend time on worrying about taking care of your basic needs, now you can just try to raise the bar even more and do things that you're just really interested in or that you're passionate about.

[B]

I could see that point because I.

[A]

Mean everyone compares themselves to everyone else. Like we have, we live in this like society is hierarchical. Right, Right. So you want to like, you know, where you fit into the economic landscape with it, whatever you do based on how well you're performing compared to other people. Right. That's how you kind of like get your, your idea. That's kind of like how you compare yourself. There's like a pecking order.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's kind of like something that's baked into the human psyche.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So can't that still exist with something like that? Like, can't you just use that to, to Raise the bar even more.

[B]

Well, yeah. So that's the question. What, what kind of bar we talk about. Because if everything is provided, right, including all the basics, all you need, and where is the opportunity to grow or to invent or build or do more? Right. Because you're competing against maybe 8 billion other people. Right. And so everything that, you know, normally would have required work no longer requires work because it's already handled by AI and robots. So what does that leave for? You know, your own freedom of expression, you know, your goals, your purpose? What, what's. I don't know. Maybe we're not there yet, but maybe, maybe there will be. What you just point out, maybe there will be room for that. But right now I can't see how that's even possible. And what I actually see is trouble than anything. Because if we're all living and we got that same equal amount, doesn't mean we're all going to get along.

[A]

No.

[B]

You know, it's still going to go sideways, I think. And. And then the more time you have on your hands, how is the government going to pacify you? Well, maybe like the Romans give you bread and circus give you some crack cocaine and some alcohol and free porn, you know, I don't know. How do you control 8 billion people that don't have a life per se, just hanging around? You can only watch so much TV and we can watch so much porn. You can only hang out the beach so many times. Right, right. At some point, you know, guys like me are going to want to get on my airplane and travel again. And how do I get to do that if I have a universal basic salary? Where do I make more money so that I can go and travel to all the countries that I live in and I work in. You see what I'm saying? I don't know. I don't know what the answer is, but I. I just don't. I just don't see it going well. I just don't. Especially with. With AI as the way it can be.

[A]

What scares me the most is that, is the question of what. How much are we going to have to comply to maintain that universal basic income? Like, what if they start implementing rules saying you can't post this on social media or you lose your $10,000 a month.

[B]

Month. That's the problem. Right.

[A]

And a lot of people are going to comply to that.

[B]

Yep. Right.

[A]

Especially, I mean, especially the 99% of the world who will have to have that just to survive and aren't going to be able to Push the boundaries even farther and, and try to build, like, real wealth on top of that to where that's the, the basic income is irrelevant now.

[B]

Yeah, no, I think you're right, because in order to maintain social harmony, you know, you're going to have to have control. And so how do you control people? Well, if you're giving them money, you can control how much you give them. Right. And what they can do with it. Right. So we're back in the same dilemma, right, with, you know, digital currency and what you see going on kind of right now in China a little bit. Once this happens, you no longer have sovereignty anymore. You're, you're. You're relying on somebody in the government to make choices for you because, you know, you made a choice and they don't like your choice, so they're going to punish you for your choice. And suddenly they're controlling your life. You're really no longer in control of it. And this is my point about men. You know, our sovereignty is gone. Our purpose, you know, our ability to provide and protect is out the window. That's what makes us who we are. The reality is men are driven by purpose, by being able to provide and protect. That's our purpose in life. And when you take that from us, this. Have you ever seen the. The study on mousetopia? Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. Classic example. Look what happened. Freaking. They're all dead. You know, they were living in. They were living in heaven, and then they created hell and they're all dead.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and even the, Even the mice, the male mice didn't want to have sex anymore, you know, and the female mice were, they were like, oh, only fans mice, you know, and they want to have sex either. They just wanted the damn mice and look good. I don't think it's going to go well for human nature. I, I think we've engineered our own extinction. I keep saying that, but I really do. And I don't think we have that much time because AI is moving so fast, man. It's moving incredibly fast. And when they're talking about in two years, a universal income that's right around the corner, that's not far away at all. What could change that? I don't think anything's going to change it. I think we're, we're too far down the road, man. I mean, how do you. How do you hit the brakes on AI? How do you stop this? The Chinese aren't going to stop doing what they're doing. The Russians aren't going to Stop, right? We're not going to stop. I think Trump already said, pull all the plugs, go for it, do all you can with AI. I mean, he knows we can't put limiters on ourselves if the Chinese, the Russians and everybody else is not right. So in order for us to stay competitive and protect ourselves from these people, we're going to have to just, just go full bore on this thing. And where does that, where does that road take us, right? I don't know, man. So I, I tell my friends, I tell everybody I talk to, you know, enjoy every day like it's your last, because it could very well be and hope for the best. But in the meantime, focus on taking care of yourself. Be the best version of yourself, you know, and prepare yourself so you have, you have a chance if that day ever comes, which I think it will.

[A]

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[B]

How will it get started? I think we're already started. We're already in World War iii. Got AI going on. You see all the strife in our country. You know, it's just a big tinderbox right now. And as much faith I haven't tried in Donald Trump, I don't think he's going to be able to stop it. I think it's just gone too far. And talking to some of my friends that are in a circle, I don't want to drop names or nothing like that, but they're telling me that even within the perimeter, man, you know, this guy's got to watch his back because he's got. He's got rhinos. He's got.

[A]

Got who?

[B]

Confederates. Trump and others in a circle that are. They're willing to cut his throat in a minute. You know, they're actively working against him. You know, the guy's got his. He's got his hands full, and I wish him the best because we all. We all really need his best, because if. If somehow this gets flipped back to the Democrats, man, we're done. Well, it seems.

[A]

It does seem odd that he's. He's. He's doing a lot of the things the opposite of what he campaigned for. Right. Like all the wars. Like, he campaigned to end all the wars. Release the Epstein files. No Epstein files. Yeah, more wars. Like the Venezuela thing. I know a lot of people like to say, like, the Venezuela thing was smart. It made sense. Nothing went wrong. It seemed like a very quick, effective tactical mission to get the guy out of there. Then you have people on the other side saying, like, well, what difference is that going to make? They didn't decap. All they did was decapitate the regime. It's still the same regime in place.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's just the vice president now. Nothing's gonna change there. And then, you know, then you have the whole Iran thing. You know, the bombing Iran. Looks like any day they're gonna bomb Iran again. The Greenland thing, it's just like, you know, I don't know what to make of it. And there seems like a lot of people that. There's people that are kind of, like, pragmatic about all this who can look at it, like, separated from being attached to it. You know, people like to, like, wrap their whole identity and put their political ideology and then you have, like, just change their opinion on whatever Trump does. Like, oh, well, I think it's good that he did that. No matter what he does, like, there, he couldn't do. He could do nothing bad. Yeah.

[B]

I think the Venezuela thing, I wouldn't call it war. No, no, no. But. But, you know, it was combat action. Okay. And that could have turned into something uglier, but I think he's actually got A control of it. I don't think it's gonna, it's gonna, it's gonna go our way. What's the name? Dely. The. The Vice president, She's actually very pro American and she's got to do her maneuvers just to keep face a safe face. But I believe, I think that's in the bag and probably a good thing because we kept the Chinese and the Russians away. Now Trump's looking at Greenland. That's always. It's not a new phenomena. It's been a phenomena for a long time. And he just decided that for. I think the other reason he's doing it is just the fact that he just showed the Chinese and the Russians, I just beat all your defense systems, and there's nothing you could do about it. They've got to go back and spend more money on their war machine. Like, oh, shit, how far ahead are the Americans, right? And so they're going to have to put more money that they don't have into building up their war stocks, their war machine. Right. Their troffers. They're running dry. And I think this is. Trump's playing chess and I think also with NATO, so he's playing a game with them, too, going, look, you know what, dude? You've been riding our coattails. You haven't been paying your fair share. We've been protecting your ass. And now, you know, we want to protect everybody's ass. And so this is what we need, and it's time to pony up. So what did they do? They said, what, 40. 40 dudes. Like the Europeans, the Russians, the Germans. And look, you know, we got forces on the 40 dudes. They lasted two days and they left already.

[A]

Right, so where?

[B]

The Greenland. Oh, oh, yeah. Right, right.

[A]

So they already left.

[B]

Yeah, I think they left us today. Right. Wow. What are you going to do with 40 dudes? Right?

[A]

See if we can find something on that dude.

[B]

Right, but, but, but I think what he's doing is playing chess and he's pointing out everybody's hypocrisy. But more importantly, I think what he's doing, he's forcing people to start putting money into self, into their defense, and they're not going to be able to defend themselves. They're not going to be able to defend Greenland. So I think he's saying, hey, we'll do it, but he's not dumb enough to take it. He's like, he's going to make concessions for Greenland. It's going to work out good for them. It's going to Work out for the Europeans as well, and it'll definitely work out for the Americans, you know, along with Venezuela. So I don't see him as the war president, but I do see where he needs to. Sometimes you just got to do things. It's not very popular. Maybe it does seem to contradict what you ran on, but I really don't believe he's interested in starting a prolonged war with anybody. I think he's just interested in manipulating people to get what we as Americans need and what want for our own protection.

[A]

No, look, look not. Not US forces. NATO forces. See what. What the status is on NATO on NATO forces going to Greenland.

[B]

Yeah, they send like a handful of guys over each country. Oh, we got this, right?

[A]

Yeah. Recent short term NATO deployments, specifically German troops for a recon mission have concluded and left Greenland. But NATO forces haven't permanently departed. The alliance remains engaged in Arctic security with Denmark and Greenland. The ongoing U.S. presence at. the air base. The German troops left quickly after their publicized Arctic endurance exercise in mid January, framing it as a routine brief depart deployment despite speculation.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, just an attempt at a show of force. Which is pretty weak, right? Yeah. Like we got this. 40 of us. We got this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. So the two Germans left not at 38, but yeah, I. I think, like I said, I think he's playing chess and, you know, we don't know what we don't know, so we'll see in time where this goes.

[A]

But I wanted to ask you also to switch gears a little bit. I've been waiting to get you in here to get your take on this. Somebody like you with such high level training and who's been involved in all kinds of crazy military operations, what your take is on this whole ICE debacle with ICE recently, killing that girl. I mean, it seems everybody I talk to, everybody online line, their opinions strictly align with their political beliefs. Everyone just brings all their political baggage to this thing and no one can look at it through like an objective lens.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm sure you've seen the videos.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What's your take on all that?

[B]

Well, you know, when you look at all the evidence. Right. So it's not just some chick was in the car and wanted to leave and got shot. It's not how it actually started. It started earlier in the day with her actually chasing ICE agents around town, interfering with their operations, putting a car between them. She was interfering? Physically interfering. Her and her. Whatever, girlfriend. Whatever this chick was. Right. Call her wife. But anyways. But if you look at all the footage, especially from the front, you know, everybody says, well, you know, a police officer shouldn't put himself in front of a vehicle.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Well, what about if a police officer's walk around the front of vehicle to get to the other side? Okay. Which is exactly what he was doing as he was filming. She turned the wheels, backed it up and then turned it to the right and got on the gas. And it clearly shows where she hits the guy and he drew the weapon and he shot her in the face. Do I think he was right? Absolutely. Because that 4,000 pound vehicle will kill you just as dead as a guy. And when we start. And I think, honestly I think ICE and law enforcement has tolerated too much from too many people and, and people have come to expect that cops shouldn't do anything when in fact I think they should. So I don't think he was wrong. He took one, one or two shots, obviously killed her. She tried to run him over with the car.

[A]

You think she was trying to run him over?

[B]

Whether she was not, she wasn't compliant and she was using, she was using her vehicle to get away, which is.

[A]

I think she was trying to peel out of there.

[B]

Yeah. But nonetheless, she got a guy stand for of the vehicle and you're going to give it gas. A law enforcement officer after he was told to get out of the vehicle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I mean, look, doesn't matter what the situation is, if you're being detained by law enforcement, it's not a good move to try to step on the gas and run.

[B]

If you tell you get out of the car, get out of the car. It's not a smart move, you know, comply. But everybody's just gotten too comfortable with being disrespectful. They all think they're lawyers, they think they know the law better than the cops do, you know, and they try to evoke their emotion with all this stuff rather than, you know, logic. Yeah, that guy was standing in front of the vehicle, he was moving around. He was as he was filming when she gave the vehicle gas. Now I gotta admit, he's a pretty fast draw. That was a quick draw to get that gun out and take that shot. Yeah. But he got it done.

[A]

And also he was pretty close to like the other guy was like pretty close to that. Like he could, if he could admit that guy was probably his head, head probably would have been five feet to the right of her head. Yeah, not even.

[B]

But you know, if people would just, you know, let law enforcement do their job.

[A]

I wonder how much this is really doing. Right. Like all these ICE agents that are out here, you see the videos of them every day. There's so many videos of these guys doing crazy stuff like frisking people, like American citizens and all that stuff. And, and you know, I, I've seen reports from Biden. I've seen reports Trump said Biden let in 10 million immigrants. I've seen reports up to 30 million that Biden let in. And, and so far these guys have gotten what, like a hundred thousand people that they've deported. Like, they're not even going to put a dent.

[B]

Well, they win. They're going after what they know are guys that are actually criminals. Right. So they have a criminal record. That's who they're actually targeting. They're not targeting everybody, just the criminals. But I also know that they're getting ready to.

[A]

Is that, that the guy right there in the front of the car? That's the guy that shot her. The guy who's like angled. Yes. So the car did strike him.

[B]

Oh, yeah, it did, yeah. He actually gave him some internal injuries too.

[A]

Wow. Where is it? There's the action. Yeah. It feels to me like, I, I don't know, it, it feels to me like they could, could, they could have like a much more effective way of dealing with like the actual criminals.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like then, then just they seem, this seems like theater to me.

[B]

Well, let me ask you this. So what would be the effective way? Well, how. I have. No, that's my point. Right.

[A]

I'm not smart enough.

[B]

At the end of the day, like I said earlier, it comes down to the man on the ground with a gun. Because no technology is going to capture these guys. You've got to go and get them because they're going to run away, they're going to hide, they're going to do things right. So you've actually got to go physically grab them. That's what they're doing here. They're not grabbing grandma that came over the border, you know, with her grandkids, for freedom. They're going after hardcore criminals.

[A]

Yeah, but they are, they are like arresting and zip tying grandmas and like children, like 6 year olds and people who have been here for, for decades that have not been violent or just trying to work. Like they have gotten a lot of those types of people.

[B]

Yeah. So how else do you do it? Right? So you could, you can do nothing. And here's what happens when you do nothing. These guys are going to keep cheating. Like they have been. Right. Because the whole reason Biden let These people in. He was trying to bolster the Democratic vote. That's what he's hoping. Sure, right, sure. That's the only reason they're doing it and to create this disruption. But here we are now. So now we got all these people came to our country, country that illegally. And what do we do with these people? Because if we let them stay, most of them are going to vote Democrat. That means this country will be a democrat country forever. A socialist democrat country. Moreover, they're basically bleeding our welfare systems. They're getting monies, they're getting our tax money money. Right. And I have a real problem with that because why are we giving my tax money to send some other kid, guys, kids to college to feed them, put them in a nice house, all these things that they've been getting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and that's my tax money. But I don't even get to spend that kind of money on my own children. And why are we doing this? So I've got a real hard on with all of this, especially the way the money's being dispersed. You know, the Somalis, all the damn money they have stolen. And that's just sounds like, like it's the tip of the iceberg. This is our money, by the way, you know, and although maybe not reaching right in my pocket, taken out, I'm still paying a lot of taxes every month because it's kind of crap. And so there's, there's the problem. Moreover, I don't have a problem with immigrants. My wife is, my, my, my wife is an immigrant. My, my son, my mother. You know, I mean, I have, I come from a family of immigrants, but they did it right. And there's no problem with that. You know, it's when people come over here and, and you bring the criminals in and people are getting killed and murdered and kidnapped and, and you see all the crap that's going on, that's, that's where I have the problem. But how do you fix it? Right? So I think this is the way. Get the, get the worst of the worst out first. Put everybody on notice. And sometimes you, you know, I think.

[A]

It'S a, I think it's, you know, there's no argument against having a strong, no good argument I've ever heard against having a strong border. I think that's something that we need and getting ready. Like the criminals and the gang violence and all that kind of stuff, the cartels, all that crap needs to be, needs to be taken care of.

[B]

Well, try that, try that in a foreign country. For example, go to Indonesia and overstay your visa, they will come looking for you, they will find you, and they will grab you right there in your flip flops and your mood or shorts and put you on the first thing, smoke it, and you'll never come back. They don't play. The rest of the world doesn't play this game. We're the only ones playing this stupid game. You can't go to any other country and think that, oh, they're going to accept me, you know. No, they don't accept you. Especially in Asia, man. You know, you'll always be an outsider. And if you show up as an outsider and you're not there legally and you're doing things that are questionable. Like, for example, there was two girls, black girls from California, not too long ago, a couple years ago. And now, I don't know why I thought they were conservatives, but they were inviting all their friends to come to Bali because it's so inexpensive here and you can do what you want and ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, you know, and. And anyways, I was on social media, and literally, these two girls were walking down the street one day in their flip flops and shorts and got rolled up and got deported. Like, do not invite your ilk and, you know, your LGBTQ community come here thinking everything's free and you can do what you want to do type of thing. You know, they had zero tolerance for that kind of stuff.

[A]

Right.

[B]

We're the only ones that. And I don't say think we tolerate it, people in this country tolerate it, but I don't think everybody tolerates it. I don't want to tolerate it.

[A]

I mean that. I mean, there's so much. I mean, it's that. That. I mean, look at all the poverty. Look at, like, you know, you can't walk through Washington, D.C. into the Capitol building without stepping over a homeless veteran.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

People with needles hanging out of their arms. You know, there's so much goddamn poverty in the inner cities in this place, but yet we just expanded the defense budget by what, $1.5 trillion for defense. Like for all these crazy wars and all of this military spending and stuff like that, when there's so many problems here. Talk about 10 taxpayer dollars. Like we can't choose where our tax money goes. It seems like we have absolutely no say. It seems like we're living on three. There's three different planes, at least of existence when it comes to this world. Like us normal, everyday people. Then there's the government, whatever you want to call Them, these like people who, you know, walk around in Congress and elected politicians who virtue signal to their side and take money for this, money for that, who are basically cheerleaders for the, the president, whoever side they're on. And you know, then you have like the military who. They're going to do whatever the they want to do.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Whatever they think is in their best interest that's going to assure their longevity in their position that there's, it's not like they're not consulting the citizens on what they really want. They're just going to s. They're going to try to get into power at, via whatever means possible to do whatever the they want. Like there's, it's, it's. They're completely isolated from us.

[B]

A good example is this knucklehead Mandami in New York mayor, right. He ran on all these promises and after he got elected, like, okay, I guess we can't do all those things that we want to do, like no free buses, no free grocery stores.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, all, you know, it was all just to get there. Right. And he's like, oh, well, you know, in order for all this stuff to happen, you guys would have to give me more tax money. Right. It's always the, it's always the game. But here's the problem I have with taxes now more than ever. I used to pay my taxes like a good little American until I started. You know, for example, the whole Doge thing. When I saw that we spent, I think, was it 5 million or 50? 50 million. We sent Mozambique to, to circumcised African men.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How does that benefit me and my family?

[A]

State Department was blowing so much goddamn money.

[B]

Yeah. So. Well, why, why cutting off some guy's pecker is that, how does that help me as an American? My children, right. All this, all this crap. This money was going to, this is taxpayer money. Right. And so you're going to squander my money on like that. Don't expect me to pay taxes.

[A]

Just hiding it.

[B]

I'm just going to keep hiding it now even more so. And I, I think Trump will be smart just to do a flat tax because a lot of people are to going to. They've like me, it's like, you know what? I'm hiding my money because you're not taking my money and cutting off some guy's pecker with it because whatever. It makes somebody else feel good not doing that stuff, you know. And you mention.

[A]

What about all the money mentioned missing from the Pentagon too? From the The Pentagon hasn't passed an.

[B]

Audit and how long exactly now, all that money everywhere, right? So where's who is controlling?

[A]

Well, think about this. But you, in the other foot, imagine you're in charge of the government, you're in charge of the military, right? And you have to make sure that United States States is the top dog no matter what, which means we have to develop a secret military, we have to develop secret weapons, crazy weapons that no one's ever heard of. But we, it's, it has to remain secret or else we're not going to be able to be dominant, which means we can't report it to Congress.

[B]

Yeah, well, there is some of that. Right. I know that because you're right. Some things just can't be disclosed because it would be an operational security problem. But, and I get that part of it, but you, you mentioned, you know, spend a lot of money on defense. And when you brought up the fentanyl thing, I had a flashback. So I was working in San Francisco for a couple months during COVID actually six months. Right. They had a big problem there, and I guess they still do. But the problem is getting less because all the, all the stores are closing out because there was a big problem, as you remember, you know, people going to, smashing and grabbing and stealing everything. You could steal up to 950 worth of stuff before it's even a felony. You know, cops weren't arresting anybody because, because they were told not to. I know, because I worked with them.

[A]

People there were leaving, literally leaving their cars unlocked on the side of the road just so their windows wouldn't get smashed because they knew somebody was going to go in their car.

[B]

Yeah, it was, it was the most. I've never seen anything like that on, on an average day. I would watch about 70 shoplifting incidents in one day at one department store. Right. And I wasn't even sure what my purpose was. I thought my job was to come there and protect the employees because they're getting the crap beat about them or maybe to help mitigate the, the theft. But actually I was just there to be a scarecrow was what I found out later on. They wouldn't let me do anything like, not even help an employee. I'm like, what am I doing here? Right? And so then I found out what they were doing. So again, I won't mention the store's name. I should. But it's not just that store. It's a lot of stores. What they do is. So somebody comes in and you know that right away what we do is, I hate to say profiling. We have people that. That their job is to profile people that come in, and they're pretty good at it, right? They're usually young kids. They go, yeah, that guy's probably gonna steal. Yeah, she's probably gonna steal. Then they follow around, they watch them steal stuff, and they take note of how much stuff they stove stole. You know, the. The quantity, the amount. And then they'll tell the person, hey, you're gonna pay for that, right? And then the person will go, no, what are you gonna do about it? Nothing. And then they walk out the store with it because you can't do anything because cops aren't gonna arrest him. And even if it was $950 worth of stuff, nothing's going to happen, right? So what happens is then they turn this ticket in and they go, yeah, this person stole $300 worth of shoes, right? And then what they do is they turn around, give that ticket to the insurance company, and the insurance company has to pay because, look, we're doing everything we can. Look, we got this guy over here, looks like a ninja, and he can't stop him. They don't tell them that I'm not doing nothing because they won't let me. They actually threaten to fire me if I did do anything other than just standing there. I made a lot of money just standing there like a scarecrow, like, are you kidding me? You pay me all this money? They were paying the cops even more. They were paying the cops $1,200 a day just to sit there, that I had to stand. They got to sit, right? And they were deputizing me to go act on their behalf because they didn't want to get fired, right? And that's how crazy it was getting, right? And so. But the. The. Where I was going with this thing was every 10ft, you had somebody on fentanyl, and they all do that fentanyl hunch, you know, where they bend over at the waist and their arms are hanging, dangling, and they're snot stooling out of mouth and their nose all over the floor and not even moving. They're just. I'm just like. I don't even know how they can stand like that without falling over. And they'll stay there like, 30 minutes, totally catatonic on fentanyl, right? Everywhere. There were bodies everywhere. I knew this one girl. She was a security guard, security officer, but she was armed. Every night, she had to patrol 4th street and Market street, and she would show me pictures the next day of Dead bodies on the road they would come across. It's like every night I go to a sweep and pick up dead bodies. Right. I had to do get stabbed to death right in front of my hotel. Never made the news. Right. They don't want to talk about stuff like that. They want you to think San Francisco was perfect. Right. Now, I haven't been there since COVID so I don't know what it looks like now, but I imagine it's probably not much different. But the problem was I saw so much fentanyl. Fentanyl, so much fentanyl, and it's so dangerous. I was carrying Narcan with me. The cops gave me Narcan. I said, dude, if you touch somebody that's got fentanyl, you get something on your finger, you. You're going to go down. I've. I've actually helped guys that went down with, with fentanyl poisoning. I mean, they're out and you hit them with Narcan and bring them back. But. So I look at it like this. Over a hundred thousand people die every year from fentanyl. Where's it coming from? It's coming actually from the Chinese through central South America. Yeah. And I happen to be working on another project in Mexico.

[A]

Directly into Mexico.

[B]

Yeah. And I'm actually working on a project right now related to that with. I got to watch how I say this again, but again, it's in front of people in government. But this is a real thing. These are. This, this is literally warfare. And they're using fentanyl to take out Americans and do what they've been doing to us. So when I look at funding, I'm hoping that Trump is putting money towards the counter narcotics operations. Hey, let's sink more of those damn boats, you know, know, let's go get Venezuela, because this is a. They're killing Americans innocence. And I know Americans that are not here anymore that died from fentanyl, just from. What do you call it? Just casual. Casual exposure to it. They touched somebody that had it, or they went down, they went to go help them. And you know, what the hell, it happens pretty fast too, by the way. It'll induce a heart attack right away. Good news, the Narcan will reverse it quickly if you have it with you. Right. So I look at it from the, from that standpoint. You know, we are in a war. We are in World War iii. It's fifth generation warfare as well. And, you know, don't expect to see bullets flying and missiles, not anytime soon, because we're Already there. And it's a. It's a war of will. It's a war of information. And whoever wins that information warfare is gonna. Is gonna rule. And this is where we're competing with AI and all the things that are going on right now. And so for the average person is wondering, well, what about about me? Well, here's what I got to say about you. You're on your own. Nobody's coming. Nobody's coming. Nobody's coming to help you. Nobody. Honestly, if you think the government cares about you, they don't. They really don't. Because you know what? Who is the government? You know, it's a bunch of weak men and aggressive women up there dictating policy, making decisions not for your benefit, but for their benefit. At the end of the day, it's just for their benefit. Them, you know, and I hate to sound so anti government because I wasn't always like this, but I guess with age comes experience when you. You know, I'm almost 63 years old, and I look back and I'm like, man, you know, did I do some good things? Yes. Did I do some bad things? Now to think about it, you know, there's some things I was involved in and I do regret. Like, for example, Mogadishu, right? So. Well, we got a lot of dead Americans and nothing to show for it, because why? Politics, you know, what was that.

[A]

What was that thing you said?

[B]

Issue?

[A]

What is that?

[B]

Remember Black Hawk Down? Oh, yeah, yeah. So we had a mission and got a bloody nose. Wasn't over. But Bill Clinton, because of his politics and the. The view of that decision, he decided to pull us out. So, you know, we lost five Delta Force operators. You know, one of them used to be on my team. And then we lost a bunch of rangers. I think 18 total KIA, plus 77, I think, WIAs. And to what end? What did we get out of that? Nothing, right? Now, you look at Kabul, all right, 20 years, big war, and we walk away and give them $82 billion worth of equipment. And we lose, right? What did we win? What did we gain? Now that we kill a lot. We kill a lot of Americans and not America, but NATO soldiers to it in. And when I look at stuff like that, I'm like, you know, it's not the soldier's fault. The soldier did his job. As a military. We kick ass. We've always kicked ass. It's the politics that loses the war for us, particularly the politicians. And so I look back at Mogadishu, I look back at Bagram with huge regret, you know. And I remember one of the reasons I left Afghanistan. So I spent almost, almost 10 years going back and forth between Afghanistan, Iraq and a few other countries. But I've got over two years alone just in Afghan. And I remember circa 2010. Yeah, but 2010, almost 2011, I got in another ambush. And I call it my final ambush. But basically what happened was I remember thinking myself, if I get out of this one, that's it. Not doing no more, right? Because this one looked almost impossible to get out of, is it? They got us pretty good. And we did get out of it. And I decided, you know what? I'm going to keep my promise to myself. At the time, I think I was 47 or 48, says, time to hang up your guns, go home, be with your family, you know, and enough. But more, what really drove that decision, more than anything was when I looked around at the state of the war and I looked at the state of the military at the time and the attitudes, I started to realize, good men here are dying for nothing, man. Why? Because there were operations I wanted to do. Now, give you a good example, right? So I had this idea. So all the bad guys would always hide, especially leadership. You know, they would run to Pakistan, you know, they come over to Afghanistan or maybe they're already in Afghanistan. They would set up a vbid or an IED and kill a bunch of Americans and run away, right? That's. That's how they were winning, right? Those type hit and run tactics. And I had an idea one day I was like, you know what, what if I basically built a little monster garage, right? And I get me some trucks, some, the same trucks. They use their Hilux pickup trucks, you know, for calling goats and stuff like that, and I turn them into VBIDs. I'm really good at building bombs, right? And I said I could make vbid out of one of these.

[A]

Vbid.

[B]

A vehicle born is improvised explosive device, right? So car bomb, right? So what I was going to do is take these trucks and build them. So they were basically full of explosives, but they look like they're hauling goats and. And then strategically warehouse them and then place them in front of, you know, a bad guy's house, you know, leader, for example, and when he comes out, check his mailbox in the morning, you know, set the car off on him, right? So. And that would have been easy to do. And what we were. And what I was trying implying with that was let's stop moving to ambush. Let's stop rolling down the road, get ambushed, fighting out of a vehicle, and then they run away. I said, what we need to do is go unconventional and play their game. Play their game, right? And so I. I put the whole concept together. I sent it up to the decision makers, and then it came back with all kinds of red X's on it and said something to effect, like, we're not in the business of making VB ids, right? Like that's a bad thing. I'm like, well, they're doing it. Why don't we do it to them, right? So I changed the. I. I changed the. The request from. I forget. I think I did call them VBIDs, but I changed them to weds wheeled explosive delivery system. Right? I just made up a word. Weds, right? I said, I'm sorry. I didn't mean VBIDs. I meant weds wheel explosive delivery systems. We'll make WED systems, right? So we'll pre position them, right? And, yeah, they came unhinged over that shit. I'm like, are you guys interested in winning this war or not? Because fighting an unconventional force with conventional forces doesn't work. You should see that it's happening every day, right? I said, the only way you win is you go unconventional on these guys. Guys. You become the boogeyman they're afraid of in the night, right? And that's when I realized they're not interested in winning this war. Nobody's cared about winning this war. Could have been over so long ago, but it's not. Why? Because people are making money. You know, It's. It's all the bad shit that goes along with it. You know, there's no reason we should have been there for 20 years. That thing could have been over in 20 months or faster, you know, if people just, you know, slip the reins, slip the leads off the dogs and let them go, man. You know, but we don't do that stuff. Why? Because opinions and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And can't hurt the bad man. Because if you hurt the bad man, the bad man will be. Won't be nice to the good man. Like, come on, you know, like the interrogations, right? You can't. Can't interrogate, you know, you can't. You can't arrest someone and make him a prisoner. You know, he's got to be a detainee, and you got to give him all his rights, and you can't be mean to him. You can't say mean things to him. Like, are you kidding me? Is this where we're at?

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, that's the crazy part, man. That's the craziest part. You know, the other thing they did, I just throw this out real quick. Quick little point is when McCain came out and said, you know, interrogations don't work, blah, blah, blah. And then everybody got behind that. Yeah, yeah, they don't work. So no more interrogations. Then what was happening was we'd go out and usually we rolled up bad guys. We didn't try to kill people. All right. Because they got information in their head we might be able to use. Right. So that was really the mission was to grab these guys, interview them, whatever you want to call it. Right.

[A]

A little bit of enhanced interrogation.

[B]

Yeah, well, you know, honestly, it didn't take much of that. Right. There's just them being afraid that they might get hurt. They would sing like a canary. Right.

[A]

So, yeah, the crazy thing about that is, like, if you're gonna do it, like, just do it. Don't try to, like, hide the fact or, like, go around laws. Like, the problem was that they. They literally, like, made this CR law where it's illegal to do it, but we're gonna do it secretly anyways and no one can talk about it.

[B]

Yeah, right. And so just change the law. Yeah. It makes no sense. Right. We were catching guys, and the first question they would always ask us is, are you arresting me as a terrorist or are you arresting me as a criminal? Right. Because they were hoping you said terrorists. Because if you said terrorists, that means we're going to take him back to our facility. They got to get locked up for three days, Bed breakfast. They're going to get taken care of. Nobody's going to yell. I'm going to say nice things to them. Right. And all they got to do is shut their mouth for three days, and we got to let them go with all their stuff. Right. But if you're going to arrest him as a criminal, that means you're handing them over to A and P. Afghan National Police. Right. That's a different story. That's going to be bad. It's going to get really ugly. So they were always hoping you'd get him as a terrorist because. And I don't know how many times I've arrested the same guy over and over, you know, and it was almost like they're like, hey, how's it going again? I'm like, you are getting again again. That's the last time. Right. So, you know, and. And that's what it's turned into. It turned into a joke, is what it turned into. And, you know, and people should just let war fighters fight. Let them do their job, and things will be resolved really quick. Leave the politics out of it, you know, but we didn't do that there either. And so my, you know, my regrets. Some of the things that did happen, some of the things that didn't happen, happen. And unfortunately, you know, what do you do about it? We live in this world. There's nowhere to escape it. No matter where you go.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You. You. You can't escape. Right.

[A]

I mean, a great example of this is Billy Wa, who was tracking bin Laden and literally taking photos of bin Laden, like, across the street from where he was.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't remember what year this was, but this was probably a couple years leading up to 911 before 911 happened. And he went to, I think, the top. One of the top dudes at the CIA and trying to get permission to take him out. He said he could have easily killed him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And they wouldn't let him do it.

[B]

Yeah. Interesting, right? I had to say, why? Well, I had a similar situation. So I was at a camp, and all my guys were no longer operational. They had to stand down before I got there. I'm like, why? Well, because they had a problem, had an uprising in the ranks. Right. And then I decided. I determined it wasn't the guys, it was the handlers and before me that came in. Right. They weren't doing their job. And long story short, my guys had to be retrained and recertified, and that's why I was there. And one day we get a call that right down the road, about a kilometer away maybe, was the guy that shot down. Was it Turbo 3 3, Turbine 3 3, the CH47. He shot it down with a RPG and he killed a bunch of Americans over. And he was only, like, 21 years old, young guy, and he was the guy. He was, I think, the second or third most wanted man in Afghanistan at that point. And we got intel he's right down the road visiting somebody right now. And I'm like, dude, listen, let me go get him right now. I'll go get him. And they're like, no, no. And they called up top and came back and, no, no, no, no, no. I said, look, no, you guys aren't ready. I said, who said they're not ready? I'm the decision. I make this. They're ready to. Ready. No, no, no, no, no. They got to be evaluated. Stupid stuff, right? Like, are you kidding me? I said, I tell you what, you Guys are paying me a lot of money to be here and do this job, right? I'm not just doing this job. I said I'll go myself. You just say yes, okay? I said I'll go get him myself. Just tell me where he's at and I'll go get him myself. Oh, no, no, they didn't want to do it. It's like, we're going to let this guy get away. He's right here. You know, it was that kind of nonsense and man, there's. There's stuff if I, there's stories. If I told you here right now, people would lose their. In America, there's stuff that is like classified. Yeah, it's pretty much classified. It's stuff that, you know, will get me locked up. People. It's going to piss a lot of people off. But, you know, we have done things. I say we, certain people have done things that are just egregious, man. It's just, it just proved to me again, these guys have no interest in winning this war. All they want to do is drag it out, out. Somebody's profiting off this, making money off of this. And men are. Women are dying for no reason. So would I do it all again? That's the question sometimes. And the answer is yes. I just wish I was smarter when I was doing it next time so I could be a little bit more aware of what's really going on and how I'm being manipulated so I can make better choices, you know, and not saying it was all bad, most of it was good, but you know, again, we're just this cog and this really big wheel and what are you going to do, man? You know, I can't escape it. I live in a foreign country, I live in several foreign countries and there's still no escape because, yeah, I'm still beholden to another foreign government and their police and their laws and all their stuff that goes with it. I don't. I've been to over 101 countries in my life. Life. Worked there, lived there, traveled there. And I have yet to find one place where I could say, you know what? Here you're truly free and you don't have to worry about nothing. There's no place like that. I can't find one place like it that's concerning. Right?

[A]

So to say the least.

[B]

We're all in this one big ass cage, man, you know, big mouse utopia. We're all going to die. We will eventually, somehow.

[A]

Have you ever had conversations like, like this with Billy Wall?

[B]

No. Actually, I've never really had a chance to sit down and speak much with him, like you said. No, he's always on the go.

[A]

How did you meet him?

[B]

He was assigned to me. Yeah, he just gives me a. I get a phone call one day and hey, it's me, and blah, blah, blah, and tomorrow morning I need to do this, and I need you to meet me here. Okay. That's how I know. Yeah, I was just. That's how I got you.

[A]

Had. Were you aware of who he was?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was actually shocked too, when I, like, really? Well, you still around? Yeah, yeah, he was up there, man.

[A]

In age, but he's a legend.

[B]

Yeah, he's still out there doing it, man. Yeah, yeah, well, he.

[A]

Well, he died, what, in like two years ago?

[B]

Yeah, not longer. A couple years ago. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And I remember, like, everybody was flying in from all around the country.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, he's. He's definitely a legend, man. We need more of those, you know.

[A]

But so are you allowed to talk about any of this stuff that you did? Like. Wait, so he was your quote, unquote, handler?

[B]

Yeah, basically when I said a handler, you know, CIA. Yeah, it's kind of a. So handler is not necessarily a misnomer, but his job was help facilitate or enable. Right, Right. Hey, I need to go do this. Where do I find it? There you go. Go do that. Or he comes down with instruction. Hey, you need to go do this or be here at this time. Okay. But not a lot of interaction.

[A]

No.

[B]

And there came a point where really I didn't have to ask anybody for anything. They just call me and tell me what I need to know, if I need to know it and. And if I need to know something, I'd call them and they tell me, but it was pretty.

[A]

Just tell you what, like, what were you gonna say?

[B]

If I want to go. Go to work. Right. Yeah, I need to go to work. Got anything open? Yep.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

When do I want me report? Ah, a couple days. Okay. You know, or the. Hey, you need to go to work. I think I'm taking another month off. Okay, call me in a month. It was that simple. Everything was that simple. It was a different world when I was, you know, working there.

[A]

Do you remember the first time you met him in Face to Face?

[B]

Yeah, it was actually at my hotel when he came by. At my hotel.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. The first time I met him in the U.S. yeah. So. And then I saw him down range a few times. But it's kind of funny, man. You run into A lot of people in the war that you hadn't seen in years and years and years. Like, I ran on my platoon leader from the 82nd when he was a first lieutenant back in 1983. And I'm downrange in 2010, I think, and there he is, a long trench coat and a cowboy hat. You know, it's kind of, kind of eerie, you know. Wow. But he used to be my. He used to be my lieutenant. Much older guy now, you know, but, yeah, I met a lot of guys down there and I've met people that I don't know that knew me from the craziest part. I was out one location out in the middle of nowhere in the desert, and there's a magazine with Soldier of Fortune and it's got my picture all over it in my name. I'm like, you know, guys are, guys are like looking at me going, magazine. I don't, I don't know who that is because I use a different name, right. I don't know who that guy is. But yeah, it's a small world, man. It keeps getting smaller. Smaller.

[A]

Did you ever have to, like, dress up in like, crazy disguises like Billy did?

[B]

Yeah, actually, I've got pictures where I've actually dressed up like Al Qaeda. Done some ops. Had to do one up in particular where we knew a guy was. We knew a guy had a, a briefcase with hard drives in it, bunch of passports, black book full of phone numbers. Apparently he had everything in there, the golden egg. He had all that we would need to take down Al Qaeda, right. And he was traveling from one place to another. Then he's going to stop off in his little village. And so we had intel that he was going to be there on this particular night. He was going to stay there overnight, then he was going to move on to his final objective. So what we decided to do is, okay, we'll interdict him. So when we went there, it's about a five hour drive and we had to go into, to the outer parts of the city, right? So it's a pretty shitty place. But as an American, you'll definitely stand out and that'll raise a lot of alarms, right? So, but I got to go with my guys because I'm the only American, right? And these are my guys. And so. So they fit in because they look like them, but I don't. So I had to. I hodged up. I looked like a terrorist. And. Yeah, and, and we went in and we got to the compound, we kicked in the doors. He was not there, but we did find the. The suitcase or the briefcase. And so I inventoried it right away. Yeah, there's all kinds of passports, black books, hard drives, you know. Okay, it's all there. Poo, Poo. Poo, poo. It was actually a. Like a leather set. Satchel is what it was. Not so much a briefcase, had outer pockets on it. And so I put everything back and I said, let's go. We jump in the cars, we take off. And then that night. So we had our guys stay somewhere else, but we stayed at a. I shouldn't say this, but this is. We stayed at a military base. Let me put it that way. Right, okay. Not American, but we stayed a military base. And in that they had a. A. Their version of the CIA inside of it. They had an office, right? And they only had one guy there, their case officer, the chief of base. So we've already coordinated with him earlier that we would stay there overnight, you know, and the next morning, we'd land a helicopter and we'd hand this briefcase off, and he would fly down to, you know, the capital. And so he agreed to let us stay there. And so after we get settled in, he's like, hey, you guys want to go eat some German food? Food? My German food? Yeah. Right down the street. Guy came back from Germany, opened up a German restaurant. It's really nice, you know. How nice can it be? It's, you know, everything's made out of mud here, right? He said, oh, it's great. So I said, okay, let's go, guys. You want to go eat? So we secured everything, and he told us not to bring our guns. I go, no, no, no, no, no. We don't go nowhere without guns, Right? Because this is Indian country. We know that. Said we're going. Oh, because they won't mess with you. I said, who's they? And he's talking about referring to Al Qaeda. I said, why won't they mess with you? Basically, what they had done is struck a deal with them. Said, we won't mess with you if you don't mess with us. That was the deal, right? I said, that's how you guys are surviving up here, because you guys aren't doing nothing. I know they weren't doing nothing, right? So I told my guy, I said, we can't go without guns. We're taking guns. If nothing else, carry a handgun. I said, moreover, secure all sensei vice items. Like, for example, any crypto we have is coming with us, right? So you don't leave that behind. And we ended up leaving the bag, the brown bag, in another ruck sack inside the, In a corner area, right? We thought it was going to be secure. CIA, Their CIA office inside the military encampment. Doors will be locked. He assures us nothing will happen. Okay, While we go eat, had a good dinner, walk back, check. Oh yeah, all our stuff's there. Oh, yeah, brown bags there. Okay, we're good. Next day, helicopter shows up, we take the brown bag out, we drop it off, it flies south. Now we gotta drive back. So it's gonna take us another day to drive back. We get back and then the next day we go, me and one of the case officers, we go to the embassy and we're excited, right? We wanna know, know what do we get? You know? And we asked the one of the chiefs there, so what you find out? What you find out? He goes, nothing. What do you mean nothing? Because, yeah, there's nothing in the bag. I go, what? Because there's nothing in the bag. I don't make no sense. I invent. I know there's all kinds of stuff in the bag. Not in the back. I looked at the other guy and he looked at me. I'm like. So we didn't say nothing, right? We're thinking the Germans just screw us us, right? So maybe when we were out eating dinner, they came in and took all the stuff out of the brown bag and maybe erased it and. Or replaced it or just took it out, right? We don't know. So we're like, damn, did they, you know, did we just get screwed here? Right? So we don't want to say nothing yet, right? So we go back and do another. We inspect all the vehicles, make sure we didn't somehow drop it in a vehicle or something, right? Which I know we didn't, but we did double check. Like, damn, it's, it's. It was in the brown bag. So I go back and I insist. I said, dude, it's in the brown bag. No, there's nothing in the brown bag. So just drop it. So, okay, I'm gonna drop it. So I drop it. About a month later, I come back and I went, the other guy? And I said, bro, I said, you sure there was nothing in that brown bag? He goes, I'm positive. I go, who. Who's got the brown bag? He goes, we gave it to the FBI. I said, can we go up to their office? Office, yeah. So we go up there, find the FBI guy, say, where's that brown satchel at? It's laying in the corner Just laying in the corner on the floor. Oh, yeah, that one right there. There's nothing in it. So let me see. He hands it to me. I open it up in all the side pockets. There's everything in there I said was in there. It's like, did you not even look?

[A]

Good Lord.

[B]

Now this intel is at least 30 days old. It's useless. It's compromised. They have to change all the phone numbers and everything, right? That's the kind of weird, you know, and crazy. Now, sometimes people make mistakes, sometimes lazy, you know? I don't know, man. I was just, like, scratching my head going, how is it even possible? Because we might have just found the golden egg to winning the whole world in the whole world war, right? So.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now it's just laying in the corner there, there. And the guy didn't even bother checking the pockets. It was all I knew. It was all. I wasn't going crazy, right? And me and the other guy starting to doubt each other. I'm like, damn, dude. You know, this could get you in some serious trouble, Especially you. You're the boss, right?

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so. And he's, like, sweating bullets, like, man, what do we do? You know? And I was like, I don't know. What do we do? You know? We did all we could do. So.

[A]

Hold that thought. I got to take a leak real quick.

[B]

Yeah, we'll be right back. Dude said, I've worked with this guy, John Cullen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Holy. This guy's a hound dog, man. And this is probably why he's gone. I don't know where he's at.

[A]

Who is he?

[B]

His name's John Cullen.

[A]

What is he. What is his.

[B]

He's. He's a investigative journalist. He's actually pretty famous. He's in. He's testified in front of Congress. I can tell you some of the stuff that he's done. And, like, the Butler assassination attempt, that was two snipers, not one. What? Nobody's talking about. About that, right? Even the Secret Service said it. Why are they not talking about it? Yeah, there's. I can tell you. Las Vegas. The Las Vegas shooting. I can tell you about that one. I've sat down with. We've gone through this, and he's got all the evidence. He's much smarter than I am on it, and he brought me on board to kind of vet some of the stuff. And so I bring my tactical knowledge, my strategic knowledge to play. And. And, dude, did you ever talk to.

[A]

Any of the dudes that were there at Butler, Any of the snipers no.

[B]

No, that's a, that's an interesting story.

[A]

And it's so weird that Trump has not talked about it at all.

[B]

Well, there's a reason why. See, there's a reason why.

[A]

Is there.

[B]

If you got. You want to record this?

[A]

Yeah. Are we rolling?

[B]

We're.

[A]

Yeah, we're rolling.

[B]

Yeah. So on that particular one in the Butler since assassination attempts attempt. So here's, here's what I believe has happened based on the investigation me and John Cullen did. And I'm going to give you the Reader's Digest version. Very brief. So it wasn't one sniper, it was two snipers. Okay. Now why do we say that? Well, one, looking at the trajectories, the, what do you call it? The, the acoustics from the weapon systems. Also the, even the Secret Service sniper, the second set said they were taking fire from another direction in a tree line. So they actually testified they're taking fire from over here while the other group was taking fire from the guy over on the rooftop. So they're actually getting it from two different angles.

[A]

Wait, he only shot at Trump, though. I thought their bullets were only going towards Trump.

[B]

Well, there, there's. Yeah. No. Yes and no. So, man, you have to watch the whole segment. So some of their bullets, the way they traveled and literally were bouncing off their handrails on the bleachers.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

The trajectory was completely different from the guy that was shooting what they thought was originally shooting. Right. So here's a theory, and I think it's a pretty good one. I think it's pretty solid.

[A]

See if you can corroborate any of this stuff. Steve?

[B]

Yeah. You were asking why, you know, why Trump hasn't done anything about it. So here's the theory. The theory is it was two snipers. And by the way, the one sniper, the one sniper, the kid. Right. They never really identified who he is. There was no information about his home.

[A]

His history was completely.

[B]

Why is no history, parents, what happened, all that. Right. But they do have cell cellular data tracking him to Washington, see, in around the FBI building, stuff like that. But there's no record of this guy anywhere. He could be anybody. And that's actually what he was, was a John Doe.

[A]

Well, did you see any of this stuff that. I don't mean to interrupt, but Tucker Carlson did a whole thing on this where they basically dug up all kinds of stuff about this kid and posts that he was making on forums and stuff like this, like talking about like how to shoot guns or what type of guns, and he had Videos of himself, like, with his guns, like, practicing in his room and. Yeah, but when this happened, the FBI report was there was nothing.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But now later, there's all this stuff coming out.

[B]

Right?

[A]

So if you're the FBI or the nsa, you would have known about this. Like, this guy would have been a huge red flag.

[B]

Yeah, well, so the theory is this, this kid was probably already dead, right? And they use him in name only. They probably went to his parents, said, listen, your kid's dead. We already know he's dead. He got hit by a car, whatever. Right. We'll give you $10 million. We just want to use his name and we'll give you a HYDRA identity. Blah, blah, blah, blah. The theory is it was two snipers and ready for this. They're Ukrainian snipers. Now. Why would they be Ukrainian snipers? Yeah, why would they be.

[A]

There was a dead body, though.

[B]

Yeah, that, that. But that was. That was just a patsy. Right. So the theory is at that time, this was when the elections were starting to happen. The theory was Biden told Zelensky, listen, man, you're probably going to lose all this funding, all this great crap. If Trump wins, he goes, if you just happen to send a couple guys over to our country and it just happened to shoot him, who knows? We're not going to talk about it. The theory is it was two snipers. We know it was two snipers. And the theory is it was two Ukrainians or one Ukrainian and the kid that was the patsy. Because you can't find anything on this kid anymore anywhere. Not even his parents, his home, nothing. He just disappeared. The other guy, we don't know where he's at either. But the Secret Service actually testified in front of Congress. Congress that they're taking fire from two angles. John Cullen went to Congress.

[A]

Find that?

[B]

Yeah, John Cullen went to Congress and testified the same thing. And they're like, yeah, okay, that's nice. You can leave now. So they blew that whole thing off. Now, again, that it's on another podcast. I don't mean to propone another podcast, but it was me and John was on it and we went. We spent about two hours just on that. He did most of the analysis. Right. He provided everything. The angles, the. What do you call it, the sonic analysis from the muzzle blast and the distances and on and on and on. And there's just a lot of holes in this story that made no. Made absolutely zero sense, like, where were the drones.

[A]

And how the. Did they miss?

[B]

Right, exactly. There's so much going on here. Right. So that's just one example of, you know, these, when we talk about these conspiracy theories, another good one was.

[A]

So wait, okay, so, so if, if it was a uk. First of all, find that Congress, the Secret Service, saying that there was two.

[B]

Shooters, John, and John Cullen is his name. He would be the, the journalist involved in that.

[A]

And why was Trump not talking about it?

[B]

Well, because they think Trump has now leverage on Zelensky. Says, you do the things my way or it's all blows up in your face. Right? So that's when he also came on board and said, hey, we want the mineral rights to this, you know, this part of Ukraine. Yeah. And he tried to deal, do all that. We think that was the theory, is that's what he was trying to leverage. Like, hey, we want, just like Greenland and Venezuela, you know, we want to be able to occupy this area and reap the benefits, you know, of the minerals. Another good one. Again, like I said, this guy, John Cullen, man, every time we got done with a show, we would both say, listen, man, we are not suicidal. We don't intend to die. We don't want to die. We like life, right? And so, and we would say that jokingly, but I also know we kind of really meant it, especially John, because you can't find John anywhere. He's got no phone number to call. If you want to reach him, you got to send him an email on Proton. He'll contact you and do a zoom call with you. All right? The guy's very reclusive. He hides because he's scared to death for his, of his, for his life. And once you start listening to this guy, you start to realize why he's not an idiot, idiot. He's actually pretty smart and he's pretty good at what he does. Another good one was the Las Vegas shooting. You know, now everybody just thinks some 50 year old or 60 year old dude, right, went up and, you know, with a gun and a bunch of bullets to kill a bunch of people. Right? That's not actually what happened. I don't think that guy shot anybody. In fact, when he checked into the hotel. Why is nobody talking about this part? He checked in with three. One women. Middle Eastern women. Right, right. Why? And where did they go? They went to the room with them. All right? Moreover, we have eyewitnesses. Says that shots were being fired from a helicopter. Yeah, right. But if you look at, I forget what it's called now, but there was no aircraft in the air in that area at that time. But that particular helicopter Turned off his transponder. And where did that helicopter come from? So it's a little bird. Where'd that come from? Arizona, I think it was. Who's Boeing that's down there? Anyways, they had something like 12 Saudi pilots training on those helicopters down there at that time. Right. And suddenly a very similar bird, a little bird with a people pod on it, was hovering and was shooting. Witnesses eyewitnesses saw it. And my question was, I said, John.

[A]

Dan Bilzerian talked about this because he was there on the ground.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And well, here's the shooting straight down.

[B]

Well, at an angle. Because here's why. Because I asked John, I said, John, I said, okay, if the helicopter was hovering and shooting, it was probably drifting as he was shooting. I said, was there brass found on the ground? And he goes, yes, several. Several blocks in the parking lots had brass, Brass expended brass laying on the ground. And there's cops out there with their bare hands picking it up and putting it in plastic bags. We got video of it all. How did the brass get all the way over there from this building? Moreover, the window he shot from allegedly that night was not broken. The one that was broken was next to the one where they found his body. Like, okay, this is making no sense.

[A]

In another room.

[B]

In another room, Right. And so then, then they had. That one room had a small hole in it. The glass had a small hole in it. And they found, I believe, it was eight.308 spent brass cartridges. And in theory, there were. Two rounds were fired. Two rounds were fired and hit a. A fuel tank at the airfield at Las Vegas Airport. So they shot at it with armor piercing incendiary. And they hit the top of it. And it actually has the black scratch marks where it actually made impact. So two rounds actually hit. But they had eight pieces of brass lane there. So the theory is they were trying to create a diversion by shooting those fuel tanks. Now why would you do all this stuff to kill 50 people on the ground? Because the 50 people on the ground were just a diversion. You know why? Because guess who was staying in the hotel at the same time mbs. MBS was staying there. All right, Staying upstairs.

[A]

Now, was it the same hotel?

[B]

Yeah. So check this out. This is the craziest part. So the three girls. The three girls were. What do you call a Saudi? It's a gi. Gis. Intel. Honey pots. Right. Probably ex honey pots. But anyways, they're checking in with him in the hotel, but nobody's talking about that, right? Then they got the Eight rounds of brass in the other room, the room he's dead in. There's no broken glass. The next day when they come back up to do the forensics, all a sudden the glass is broken that he was laying in, who broke the glass. Now, it wasn't broken in the morning because that night they actually have video of the room that he's supposedly in. And the grass glass is not broken, really. Right. There's more. There's so much more to this whole thing. So here's the other thing. So mbs, his bodyguards was like, we got to roll, right? They roll out the back in the vehicle. And his vehicle shot up. And it's nowhere in the line of sight, line of fire. The helicopter, it's got another building between us. There was a firefight over on the airport, on the airfield, a small one. And they got infrared video, FLIR footage of five packs with weapons crossing the airfield. And they saw people get into a private jet and then take off. So this is. None of this is in the news, by the way, right? Even the news, the cops said, yeah, There were no AK47s. It was just AR15 with a bump stone stock. And I'm looking at the video go, well, that's an AK47S with a collapsible stock laying right there. Lean up against that, that chair. How you come here telling me there's no ak? That's why I was on the show, because I pointed out, like they said, there's no AK47. I said, there's one right there. Then they found an Entire suitcase full of.30 and 40 round AK47 magazines loaded in another room. What are those there for? And it gets, it gets crazier because later on they have cops on the backside of the hotel about a block away. They see somebody coming down a zip line from the back of the hotel, from the hotel window, down the back, coming down a zip line into the parking lot. What? Yeah, think about that. And the cops are going, well, wonder what that's all about. Wonder what they're doing. They didn't even, they didn't even investigate. They just see some people sliding down a zip line. Is that the three chicks trying to make an escape? I don't know. There's so much to this story. Like I said, this is three. This was a three hour podcast. And the evidence was just mind boggling, you know, the number of people getting shot. So he only had 1100, I believe 1104 rounds is what he had. All total. And they had, you know, of course, 50 KIAs and lots of people wounded. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But there's another weird anomaly. About 22 people had gunshot wounds to the head, like.22 caliber from a horizontal shot and someone were on a roof.

[A]

Horizontal?

[B]

Yeah. It's like somebody, boom, took those kind of shots. Man, I wish I could get a hold of John again because, I mean, it's out there. This whole podcast is out there. But yeah, this, you know, nobody was talking about any of this. They just made it sound like some crazy 62 year old white guy just got up there and started shooting fish in a bowl. Right? And that's the story.

[A]

Somebody was trying to get mbs.

[B]

They were trying to get mbs. Who? The Saudis. So why would they. Because they've been trying to take him out for a long time. Because they don't. He's actually more pro western and he's a little bit more common sensical. Right, so. So for whatever reason they want, because right after that, 30 days later, he went back and I believe he arrested over 200 people all tied to this. And that guy in Saudi Arabia. Yeah, that guy Khashoggi. Okay, that guy's involved in this as well. To what degree? I don't know. But there's a reason they took him out because they believe that probably he was an enabler for this whole operation as well. So it gets like, starts getting really deep. But 200 people were arrested when he got back or when he got back to Saudi Arabia after that, within 30 days. But yeah, it's just the video footage alone speaks volumes.

[A]

Jesus.

[B]

This guy's laying right there. There's no hole, no broken glass anywhere in this room. It's in the other room. Right? So now Charlie Kirk, you know, everybody's wondering about Charlie Kirk. Everybody's got a theory on Charlie Kirk. So.

[A]

Yeah, well, there's so many people. There's so many like ex military dudes talking about how, like there's no way that that round from that matches that gun. And if it's a.30 06, the entry wounded the neck, there would have absolutely been an exit wound.

[B]

Oh, absolutely, yeah. So here's what, here's a theory again. This is what me and John kind of discussed is. All right, so they're saying that that shot was from 100, what, 43 yards or something like that, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All right, 143 yards. Again, we've got the acoustics from two different camera systems that were on the left and right side of Charlie Kirk facing the audience. Right. Based on the acoustics, right? The acoustics said that that shot came from 74 yards and not 143 yards to his front. So when you do the intersection, it shows that 74 yards, not out here at 143. Right. Actually in front of some trees. Not from the trees, but in front of the trees. Trees. All right. They say there were no drones, but we have video of drones, and actually there's a video of a drone flying right in front of Charlie Kirk, away and upward at the same time. The shots fired.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. And so we looked at the drone and what we found was there's a particular drone out there. It's got kind of like a hall shape to it. It's about that big. And you can weaponize drones now? You can.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Easy peasy. Right? And not only that, you can install AI, so facial recognition. It will 100% pick your face out of a thousand people every time, right. At different distances. And here's what the theory is. The theory is that drone was armed, had facial recognition in it because you could see it. So if I'm Charlie Kirk facing the audience, it flew over my head just like this, Just like that. And then the shot was taken and it's out of the picture. It's so fast, Right. We've actually seen it flying around a couple times in there. Now here's the crazier part. So the US government has two. They're like. They're like G5s, right? These fixed swing ISR birds. And apparently they're trying to sell them now. Wonder why. But anyways, these birds, they're ISR platforms, but they are also capable of delivering drugs, right? So imagine a G5 jet that can deliver a drone and I'm assuming recover a drone. Right? So here's what happened at. On that same particular day before the shooting actually happened, one of those aircraft flew from somewhere up north, like, I don't know, maybe Idaho, flew south. It dropped from 14,000ft to 200ft AGL, right there around the university in Utah. Dropped to 200ft feet, did a loop de loop, and then lifted back off. Right? 20 minutes before Charlie Kirk was killed, that same aircraft was coming back, dropped down to 200ft, did a loop de loop, and went back north. Right? So again, John was able to get all the communications from the control towers at the time. And what they couched it as was a missed land landing twice. Why? Why? How's it a MIS landing? You didn't land anyways, you just kept on flying, Right? So, but that's how they framed it. It's a misleading missed approach. Right. And it took off. The theory is, again, this is me and John's theory. The theory is they delivered a drone or maybe multiple drones. They came out, they probably landed somewhere and sat dormant until it was time to pull the trigger on, right? And then they came back, back and recover that drone and flew away with it. And so I know that sounds like a far fetch, but right now the acoustics are saying 74 yards, not 143. That would put it in front of him, in front of all the trees. Right. We see the drone zip up. Same time the shot happens. You're right around from 300, 8, 30, odd 6 is gonna, that range is gonna go through and through especially, right. It's just going to keep on going.

[A]

There's no like freak chance that it could like divert, hit the spine and go down like the other it did?

[B]

No, no, that round. No, because you can see it's just a flesh wound, right? I mean, right here. Yeah, it didn't hit. And even if it went through a spine, most likely it's going to exit out the other side. That's a pretty fast bullet. That's about probably close to 3,000ft per second. The other thing I have, the question I have is if you look at the backdrop right where he was sitting, there's no spalling there. There's no blood splatter, there's no fragmentation, there's no bullet hole, there's nothing there.

[A]

No. There was even a camera angle released from behind, behind him and there was.

[B]

Zero blood, nothing there. Right. So that, you know, that does in and of itself doesn't prove anything because maybe the angle, it went off and maybe went into the dirt somewhere, nobody bothered looking for it. I don't know. But there's a lot of weird, weirdness about this thing, especially the impact. The, on the backside, there's no impact. Nobody seemed to do an investigation for the bullet. Nobody actually talked about the bullet. And then if you look at, you know, that weapon he had, you just 10. You just don't take it apart like a, for example, an AR15, you know, like take out two little bolts to fold it up. That takes a while to do. In fact, it usually takes a bench rest to break the, the nuts on it with a, with a tool. So he's going to take time to do what? Break that down and put it in a backpack and then climb off the building and then reassemble in the woods. None of that makes any sense. None of that makes any sense. And so, so I'm of the theory that. And so is John. This, the kid was just again a patsy because he was probably already selected a while ago because there's something I didn't know this was. John explained it to me. I guess you can Google it. I looked it up finally they have what's called information reduction teams right in the pentagon. There's like 60,000 of these people and their job is to create, is to analyze certain areas and create potential scenarios and or patsies. And so in this case they go, you know what, we got to kill Charlie drone, Charlie crook at this place. You know, let's find a, a patsy, a guy that would fit this, this profile that we could do. And they do it. It's called information reduction teams. I didn't know that was such a thing. But apparently there is. You can google that one.

[A]

Information reduction teams.

[B]

Yeah, and apparently there's a, there's an army these things like 60000 of them. I didn't hear about it until John brought it up to, to me. You got that right there.

[A]

Recent Pentagon efforts under the Department of War to cut staff and bureaucracy, notably slashing the Defense Technical information center workforce by 80% in August 2025 to refocus on core data management and save money alongside streamlining cyber security training and reorganizing innovation offices for mission focus thing. It's just about staff. Interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. So it says it's about staffing stuff.

[B]

I think that's just a cover but again I'm not the expert on that.

[A]

Well, I mean the most obvious thing is like that gun, if it was a 3006 would not have. It would have done way more damage than that. And also I heard people say that if there was a sniper, like a trained sniper sniper that was going to do something like this, they wouldn't aim for the neck or would they?

[B]

Well, just because they aim doesn't mean they hit with the true aim at right. So maybe, maybe it was tend to be a headshot pulled a little lower to the right. There's something very.

[A]

There's also another theory floating around that it was the microphone was an explosive.

[B]

No, that's not. That's been debunked.

[A]

And, and, and what. And do you know at all if there was, if he was wearing body armor? There are some people that say he was wearing a plate.

[B]

No, you would see it. His shirt was too tight. You would see if he was wearing any kind of a vest.

[A]

You would There was footage of him right before that where he's walking around and you can literally see his nipples poking through his shirt.

[B]

Yeah. He wasn't wearing a vest. It's. It's. Yeah, it would be pretty obvious. Yeah. A lot of weirdness on that one.

[A]

But who do you think was behind it?

[B]

Again, there's all these theories, but I think. Again, honestly, I think. I think somebody in the Jewish state took him out because apparently there was a little rift before then a couple weeks earlier.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he decided he's not going to do that. He's not going to oblige these people that want him. They want to give him some ridiculous amount of money, too. Like 25 million for something. And he pushed back Rice to.

[A]

Yeah, they wanted to. Right? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So look, it's always man, like this thing with mbs, right? You know, the Butler shooting. I mean, we can go on and on. Right. All the. These. A lot of these conspiracy theories are starting to be. Be true, you know, and it doesn't.

[A]

Help when the government just doesn't come forth with the truth. Like they conceal and hide the information which enables all these conspiracy theories to just explode.

[B]

Absolutely. And when it's. When we have real evidence, like the Butler Creek thing and we have real evidence of Las Vegas. Vegas. And they're still not talking about it. You're just kind of dismissing it. Right.

[A]

Like, did you find, Steve, the Congress testimony of the Secret Service saying that we know there was two shooters? Well, I'll show you what I did find. So I found his testimony, but not him. I'm talking about this. Whatever the Secret Service said in front of Congress. No. Yeah, there was no. And I.

[B]

And I.

[A]

And I looked and looked and looked.

[B]

And looked, and I couldn't find.

[A]

Find anything. Instead, I. I keep finding, like, this second shooter conspiracy. It's just. That's all it is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Interesting. I couldn't find it.

[B]

Yeah. John. Like I said, John Cullen, man, he'd be great guy to have on the show if I could ever find him, man, he is not like him. So that's why I'm a little concerned that something's happened.

[A]

How'd you meet this dude?

[B]

I actually met him through another guy. I don't know if you know Tommy Kerrigan from Tommy's podcast.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay, well, Tommy has a lot of guys on, man. He's got some big names. And he. He said, dude, you really need to be on the show with this guy. So I got to know John and. And we did. I don't know how many shows? We've done six or seven together. We were getting ready to do one on 911 and also on UAPs. Extraterrestrials.

[A]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[B]

He's got a lot of knowledge on that one too. I have probably more on 911 than he does. But you know that. That's another one, right? It's an inside job, you know, government debt. It, you know, I'm like, yeah, there's.

[A]

So many 911 conspiracies. It's just like, yeah, that's.

[B]

I'll tell you this. 911 airplanes did do it. Bad guys in airplanes did it. Now did somebody else enable that? Now I, now I'm starting to have second thoughts. I used to think not, but now I'm starting to wonder a little bit. But I can answer just about everything. Like, you know, Building seven and why did it collapse, blah, blah, blah. There's actually an explanation for everything. You know, when people talk about things like, you know, there was a thermite, you know, we found thermite on the ground because they burnt. No. Do you ever think that maybe there's thermite in the ground because when they first build the buildings, you know, arc wells and stuff like. Yeah, you're going to get thermite and residue on the ground. Of course you're going to get all that. Right. That's what that came from. It's not because they use thermite to blow the buildings up. It's impossible. I'll tell you that right now. It's impossible to blow up a building with one shot. When I say one shot, one explosives. Right. Or set of explosives. Because you got to break the concrete first. First. Then you got to attack it again and break all the rebar and all the iron in it. Right. That's two shots. Right. There's no room. There's no time to go in and set charges again. And it takes, it would take months, maybe years to build that. Put that whole thing together under the nose of everybody. That didn't happen.

[A]

It is weird. There's all that footage, those interview footage of on the ground that day of all the firefighters saying that they heard explosions in the basement.

[B]

Well, that's from. Yeah, that, that's not from explode because they didn't collapse from the basement. It collapsed from the top up. Right, Right. So if it blew up in the basement, the whole thing would just crumble. So that wasn't. I don't think that was explosion so much as it was probably like metal and things like that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Being over torqued you know, and cracking and ripping and popping and snapping and cables and things like that. But I can tell you right now that with my knowledge on explosive, which is quite exp. Extensive, you cannot. You can go in and place all the chargers you want. Want. You hit all the key pillars, right? You got to drill holes, big holes. You got to stem it, fill it up. You know, you got to run wire. How are you going to hide the higher wire? If you do it with remote control, then you got the problem with an errant signal setting off your charges before you wanted to go off, right? So it's got to be. Something's got to be. Usually it's going to be some type of manual control with firing wiring or something like that. Non electric systems, right? So you got to control and hide all that wire. He needs a lot. It's a lot of stuff you've got to rig up. Then you've got to paint it all up, clean it back up so the average observer doesn't realize something's off.

[A]

Well, there was a couple floors in the world train center towers and at least one of the towers that we know that was under construction for months before that. And that was like the floor was like cordoned off where you could go up there. And people were saying they heard jackhammers and going on up there, like.

[B]

Yeah, but see, even. Let's just say all that was true. Let's just say that, okay, they were in to put explosives. Here's the. The problem, right? If you understand how explosives work and you put explosives, say for example, on the concrete pillars themselves, all right, you can shatter the concrete, you can crush it, pulverize, it breaks. But almost all concrete is reinforced with what, steel and steel, right? That's not going to break, all right? That takes a separate attack. And it's.

[A]

Right.

[B]

If you're going to use. If you're going to use something thermal normal, that's going to take a long time. Like a cutting system, that takes a long time, right, for it to cut through everything and weaken it. And you have to use multiple systems at one time. That's not going to work if you're going to use explosives. And there's certain explosives you could use to cut steel, but it's not practical. For example, one that you could use. There's. You could use, for example, C4 to some degree, but it take a lot. But it's things like Jet Ax, there's different systems, but even that takes a while to set up and just impossible. There's no way it happened What I think may have happened, though, is they did fly airplanes in there. But my question is, how do they do all this stuff under the nose of the federal government, all these people, how do they get away with it? Who coordinated that? Right. And there's supposedly Mossad was on, on site in a van, cheering and watching.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

There's a lot of weird stuff that's going on here. Right.

[A]

So why did all those government people sell all their American airline stocks, Right. A week before?

[B]

Right. So that's the part I agree is a little suspicious. The actual attack itself was done with airplanes, not explosives, clearly. Right. But it was definitely something to off on this.

[A]

It was a hologram.

[B]

Yeah. And you could. And so it's the same thing with Las Vegas, same thing with Charlie Kirk, same thing with Butler. It seems like everybody's just dismissing it and it's like, okay, this case closed. Let's move on to next. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, know. And why, why are we doing.

[A]

What do you think about the conspiracy theory that Osama bin Laden is still alive and they never really got him? I've heard that one so much lately.

[B]

I think they got him. What's the point? Keeping him alive. Right. There's no value to that. No internal value. There's nothing. You can't leverage that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You're just feeding this guy in a seller for what.

[A]

What was the story that they, they, they, they threw him off the ship or something? Yeah, for like a proper Muslim barrier.

[B]

Well, you have to. So according to Islam, right, when a Muslim dies, you have to bury him within 24 hours. Right? That's like, you got to do it. And so that was probably their deals, like, well, we're not going to bury.

[A]

Don't they have to bring the guy back for like, analysis, like DNA to get some, like, confirmation that it was him. Was there? Do you know about any of this?

[B]

No, no. I would imagine they would do that. Maybe they took the samples already, but.

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

But I think the reason they dumped him in the ocean is because they didn't want anybody to go worship the guy after that. Right. If they knew he had a grave. So I think that was probably the reason they did it. But I'm pretty sure he's dead. There's no value in keeping him around, but.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Yeah, I don't. Yeah. But is the world a better place without him? Probably. But is it really making a difference? Not really. It just cost a lot of lives to get one dude. And then we didn't stop, stop, you know, well, we got. Got the dude, but, yeah, we're just gonna keep risking lives, right? Yeah. Yeah. Strange times we live in.

[A]

And, yeah, the future of warfare seems like it's going to be spooky, and it's going to keep getting spookier.

[B]

Yeah. Now with drones, I'm watching some of this footage in Ukraine, Russia. I'm like, jesus, man. No escape. You know, I. I had a guy who was coaching, so I do a lot of performance coaching. And this guy was actually from the league Legion, but he was Irish, and he was like, you know, he goes, I'm trying to figure out what I want to do. And one. Finally, one day he made a decision. He's going to go to Ukraine, right? Be a soldier. I said, okay. So he's not even there 30 days, and he comes back. I go, what happened? He goes, man, he goes, let me tell you. He goes, the first day I went out with 125 infantrymen. He goes, Five of us came back. Everybody else died from drone attacks.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I was like, what? Yeah. He said it was no, nuts. He would have said it was nuts. And the thing was, you would never even know you're in a war zone until you're out on the front line somewhere. Everybody else just acting normal, you know, and he said, but you go out and then you experience something like this more than once. He goes, there's no way I'll survive this. The money's not worth it. And he left within 30 days. You know, good God.

[A]

It's something. You don't even hear anything about that war anymore in the news. They don't even talk about it.

[B]

I mean, there's a lot of voodoo drone footage on. On Google is kind of weird. They're just putting it out there. People getting shot up and blown up, like, not even censored anymore, you know? And I'm watching this stuff with the drones especially. And the problem with the drones now, they've gotten so good that. Well, one, they're using, you know, they're using. What do you call it, fiber optic cables to fly them now so that.

[A]

They don't jam, so they can't jam them. Yeah.

[B]

But even now, they've got drones that you can load with AI and they're autonomous, Right. And they just go to work. Right. And they know what to look for.

[A]

And they kill it.

[B]

You know, that's just. And, well, even the US army now is issuing drones, personal drones. All the soldiers. That's the. The wave of the future. Every soldier will go to the Field with his own personal drone. You know. You know what's really gonna be cool? We were talking about this earlier on with AI and you know, the advancement of robots. One day every soldier will have his own personal robot, one with him. I guarantee you that. Think about that for a minute. You see how. You see how accurate robots are now? Yeah, they're so precise in their movements, you know, thinking, processing. Can you imagine? And even Elon Musk said that he thinks in what, four years, four years, maybe a little bit longer, robots will outnumber humans. And he said they'll be affordable. Like, how much? $20,000. Right. And can you imagine a world where you have robots and you take one with you into combat, you know, hey, carry my shit. Hey, load my weapon, Give me a drink, you know, and he's doing it all the work for you and even us, right? You will be sitting here one day and you'll have your robot, I'll have mine, and he'll have his, and we get an argument and let our robots fight it out.

[A]

We had this gentleman on a couple months back who was a scientist or a psychologist who worked for darpa, and he was in charge of like the. The research and development stuff of all the new technology they were doing. And he was saying that they have helmets that they can. People in on the battlefield can bring it with them and say, like, somebody gets blown up or whatever, they can put this helmet on and a surgeon sitting in Washington D.C. can also put their helmet on and he can like do all the work through this, like hijacked this guy's body to where. Now the guy on the other side of the world can be the surgeon because he's like hijacking his brain and doing the work for him.

[B]

You know what? You know what? They've been working on that for a while. So look up the gateway process, or gateway project from the CIA. It's actually been declassified. It's about a 20 page.

[A]

I've read it.

[B]

Oh, you had, Right. So they talk about.

[A]

Actually there's actual projection type.

[B]

Well, that and also, I'm not sure if it was in this particular document, but they've done experience already. So, for example, maybe I'm on a computer on one side of the world, you're on a computer on the other side of the world. We hook up some, you know, some wires in my fingers and my body and some of yours, and I can actually manipulate you on the other side of the planet by my movements in the computers and stuff like that. Right. So they're already there. So that would make a lot of sense that they could do it. Surgery with a surgeon. That's why I said if you live another five years, you can easily live to be 150. And who knows, if you've been around for 20 years, maybe you can live forever because of this type of technology. See, it's not. I keep. They keep saying artificial intelligence, but I don't believe it's artificial. It's just intelligence. It's all it is, you know, and what we have done, like I said, we've engineered our own extinction. Remember when the movie, you know, with the Terminator came out, out in the Matrix? I all seem like some futuristic mumbo jumbo, but here we are, we're living it. Skynet, right? Freaking drones.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, all this stuff. We're there, you know, and how does this thing end? That's right. That's why I want to hang around for. I want to see how it ends. So give me my 150 years or whatever. I, you know, I'm allocated in my. In my monthly, you know, living allowance. I want to see what happens next.

[A]

Yeah, I'm waiting for the aliens to land.

[B]

Land? They already did, man. They did a long time ago. You know, I'm. I'm convinced that no doubt in my mind, you know, there seems to be enough evidence. Have you seen the booger. The booga ball? Yeah, right. That's crazy.

[A]

That's insane. Is that the one that the. The. The missile hit it and then it came back and then.

[B]

No. So the, the one is from Columbia? Yeah, Columbia, right? South America. They found it.

[A]

Oh, I'm not.

[B]

It's called the Bugus Fear. And they. It was back in March. They recovered it.

[A]

It.

[B]

So it's flying. They got video flying. It hits a power line. There it is right there. And. Yeah, there it is. Booger sphere. Anyways, they've been. They've been. They've been some dude talking. Yeah. They've been testing it.

[A]

And that's actually it right there.

[B]

Yeah. So when they found it, it weighed, I think, eight pounds. And in the course of a couple months, all of a sudden, it weighed 24 pounds. And like, what happened there? It's not eating. No, nothing. Whoa.

[A]

So what are they saying this is?

[B]

Well, so they don't know what it is. They finally were able to not really decipher the. The hieroglyphics that are on it, but they think it's Sanskrit, which goes way back. It's some type of symbology, but they don't they. They haven't been able to interpret it yet. But this is fake.

[A]

This is not real. It is. There's the AI scratches all over that.

[B]

Yeah, that one's fake. Yeah, no, the real one. Because you know there's find.

[A]

Can you find the real one? It's not. You're not going to find it on YouTube, bro. You're going to have to like. Oh wait, is this a video?

[B]

Totally.

[A]

AI man.

[B]

That's the video right there.

[A]

No, that's actually, that's a cgi.

[B]

Are you sure? Oh yeah. There's one out there with them actually flying where he hits the power lines.

[A]

That sucks. This is CGI. So you can find the going.

[B]

But you know Dr. Greer is. Yeah, yeah, he's all over this thing. In fact he's gone down and looked at it. There's quite a few people are looking at it and examining it. They haven't been able to figure out what it is or how it, how it even flies. They just know it gained weight on its own. I don't know man.

[A]

I'm going to keep looking. Maybe that's this metallic sphere. That's wild Columbia. That looks real. Yeah. I think most of this stuff is probably secret technology the Pentagon's put doing or Pentagon or like aerospace contractors. Like especially the stuff that those fighter jet pilots were seeing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cuz those fighter jet pilots, they aren't. No, you know, they're. They're pretty psychologically sound dudes, those guys and the guys who are like running the nuclear sites who claim to have those things that were hovering above their. The nuclear sites. Like ream or not Rendlesham, but. Well, Rendlesham is one of them in the UK but the one in like the Midwest.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know saying that these big objects, these big glowing objects were coming down like landing and like shutting down all the nukes or like in Russia arming them and then turning them off like. Yeah, these guys aren't. These guys aren't crazy people.

[B]

No. And you know I listen to Dr. Greer quite a bit as well on some of this stuff but he thinks things. We've had this technology for about 80 years. We've actually reversed, reverse engineered some of this technology and are using it. Some of it's real, some of it's man made. But my thing is why not? Right? So you know, are we, that I don't know man, are we that damn arrogant that we think we're the only people living in this universe? You know how big this universe is, right? Holy smokes, man. I mean, 7 trillion plus galaxies that we know of. Surely there's other life out there. And then when we talk about different dimensions, you know, now science, physics come back saying, yeah, there's at least 11 different dimensions. Some people can travel through them. When we dream at night, maybe that's what we're doing is we're traveling to another dimension for a moment. You know, we talk about the Akashic Records, the Anunnaki, the Book of Enoch. You know, it talks about a lot of this stuff, but it's been left out, out of the can. It doesn't, it doesn't meet the narrative. Yeah, I think, I think there is alien life and I think it's on this planet. What it's going to, what's it going to do with us? I don't know. Maybe it doesn't want to do anything except maybe keep us from destroying ourselves. I don't know.

[A]

Right. You know, I had this guy, James Fox on the show a couple days ago and he's a LifeLine long UFO investigator and makes documentaries about this stuff. And he was recently in New York at a movie premiere for the, that new documentary that came out, Age of Disclosure, where they interviewed all those high level military people and government folks talking about these declassified programs and the skiffs and you know, these recovered, crashed, recovered vehicles. And he walked up to, he was having a conversation at the bar with this top guy at the DIA and he was asking him, he's like, you know, he said, how many people like have the big picture of what's really going on? And he was like, maybe like 10 people, 10 people worldwide really have the big picture. He's like, whoa. He's like, well, what about you? How many people know as much as you know? And this guy from the DIA is like maybe 30. He's like, holy. He was like, what do you make of the, like the reports that have come out that said like, there's something scary or something spooky about the reality of this stuff? He's like, I, I could see how it could be scary, how it could be threatening. He's like, what about it is scary? What about, what about it scares you? And he goes, their intent, it's like, their intent. What the does that mean?

[B]

It don't sound good, does it? No. Who knows, man? I mean, but I mean, yeah, I.

[A]

Mean like there's, there's biblical stories that, that line up with some of the modern events. Like, like even the ones in the 90s of like that being in Virginia, Brazil, you Know that, that, that small being with the big head, the red eyes and the cloven feet and smelled like sulfur. That almost matches biblical accounts of demons perfectly. So like maybe these ancient people were seeing these things.

[B]

Things it sounds like, I mean, you know, I mentioned the Book of Enoch a minute ago. I don't know if you're familiar with that, but it was one of the books that was left out of the canon. Right. Intentionally. In fact, the only canon still has it is the Ethiopian Bibles. Yeah, right. They're the only ones. But now they've been able to find more copies of it. But the Book of Enoch talks about alien life, talks about the archangels, it talks about the nephilim, the giants. It talks about a lot of stuff that just doesn't seem to fit the narrative. Right. And the narrative of the Bible, remember, was written by men exactly several hundred years after death of Jesus Christ.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Now look, I can't remember. We just talked about two hours ago verbatim. I really don't. So how the hell am I going to know what somebody else said 600 years ago and put it in a book?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, the, that's what you have to remember. Like Luke, John, Mark, these were dudes, human beings on this earth that were sitting down, writing. Yeah, right. And like some of the stuff they were writing seems just like so spectacular.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so out there, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, like you can either take it for what it's worth that this was this dude, I mean, writing about things like the invisible becoming visible and like gods and angels and, and unexplainable phenomena.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. There's, there's so much in there, in the Bible particularly that is contradictory of course. And I know a lot of people lose their, you know, if you start talking about it because people, people will die to defend that, you know, their belief systems, you know, and, but you know, I, I'm, I'm constantly looking and analyzing and questioning stuff, you know, and there's some dark stuff in the Bible, the Old Testament and the New Testament.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, and it's right up there on par with the stuff you read in the Quran and other, you know, and other religious documents. But the part I find interesting thing is who, why did they leave out certain books? Actually it was quite a few books. Not just the Book of Enoch.

[A]

Yeah, a lot.

[B]

There's quite a few they left out. Right. Because it just didn't sync up with the main narrative. So, you know, when it comes to religion, it's a man made doctrine. Dogma.

[A]

Yeah. It seems to be very focused on. From what I've read of it, it seems to be very centered around control.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Building a control system.

[B]

Absolutely. After. Absolutely. And so that's why I kind of dismiss it. I believe in a higher power. You know, the Bible says. One thing that's interesting is. And I think a lot of people miss this part, it says heaven and hell is within you. It's not like you go somewhere there's a heaven, you go somewhere there's a hell, it's within you. I've always known that. I've always questioned it. Even when I was younger, I was like, I think heaven and hell is within us because there's nowhere. Where do you go to be a part of that? And I think it's just part of our consciousness. But sometimes the Bible is actually pretty accurate. But it's. But they didn't do a very good job explaining, you know, like, for example, you know, when they talk about the archangels, 200 angels came down from heaven. Okay. And these angels did what? Well, they were supposed to help humans, but then they fell in love with more women and they started having sex with them giants. And then those Lois said, screw that. We're going to drown everybody, you know, if we're going to wipe you all out and start all over, do a reset, you know, to your point, some of these stories sound really fantastic. I listened to. What does it say? Neil Degrasso Tyson, remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't particularly care about his politics. Sometimes I wish you just leave it out. But from the astrophysics side, it's. Find it very interesting. And he's made a good point one time, and it really made me think. So I believe it was. Don't quote me on the date. I believe it was around 1755 in Lisbon, Portugal, There was a big earthquake and churches collapsed with all the, you know, everybody was in it, women and children and men, they all died. The earthquake happened. And then a little while later, a tsunami came in and literally wiped out the entire city of Lisbon. Right. Killed everybody in it. And his question, question, the question he posed was, if there's a God, either he's not all knowing or he's not all powerful or both. Because if he was all knowing, why would he let all these women and children die in a church praying to him, Right? Why did he stop it if he's powerful? And the same thing with the tsunami, why did he allow that? Or why didn't he, if he's powerful, why did he stop it if he knew it was. If he didn't know it was coming, then he's not alone knowing. Right. So it's like made me think like, damn, man, he nailed. It's like if you're all powerful, all knowing, all omnipresent everywhere, then how's that slip by? You do. If you're. Are you really that good that you would let all these people die? Right. And then, and then here's how they feel. It's kind of like what I think they call the God gap, you know? Well, God works in mysterious ways.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, if he works in mysterious ways and how. Why should I believe anything? Right, Right. Why should I believe anything if it's all m. If it's a mystery?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So. But you're telling me to put my faith into this person, right? Sure, yeah.

[A]

I think it just goes to, you know, giving people meaning and performing and giving some sort of a structure to society. Because I think most believers, I think 90% of people that are Christians and they go to church, they probably don't read the Bible. Yeah, right. They just kind of like you go to church and then the, the preacher kind of like picks and chooses what things to communicate to you. And I'm sure it makes those people better in their lives. I'm sure it them happier. Fill some sort of gap in their lives, build some sort of community. So I think there's a lot of positives that people can get from that kind of stuff. And it's just like once you really dig into it, like, like get your boots on the ground of like some of like the hardcore texts that have been missing even that are in there and look at some of the stuff. It's just like, it's, it's a whole nother world of like crazy that was happening back in antiquity that we're never going to be able to recognize. Reconcile.

[B]

Yeah, like, you know, enslavement was okay. Raping a girl was okay. As long as you know. Yeah. Weird stuff. Right, Weird stuff. But you're, you're right. It gives somewhat. It's control some people want to control. And that's why it was actually politicians, religious leaders that got together and decided what goes into the Bible canon. Right.

[A]

Council of Nicaea.

[B]

Right. So they did that. Now I think if you follow science, science renders a better explanation for a higher power. Right. So divine consciousness, call it whatever you want, universal intelligence. But I think in a lot of ways when people are speaking religion, they're also speaking science. They're just using a different vernacular, different language, you know, for example, when we talk about the Holy Spirit, right. I was Catholic, was growing up, talked about the Holy Spirit. You know, you have, you know, the dear departed, you know, lovely John is here with us and speaking spirit. Why do we say that? Because we all intuitively know everything's energy, frequency and vibration, right? So in science, spirit is actually frequency, vibration, energy. That's all that is, right. So the soul, the spirit, we're talking the same thing. And so I prefer to use different language to describe my belief in a higher power, like divine consciousness, universal intelligence. I believe we are all part of a collective consciousness, you know, that goes all the way back to Carl Jung in 1903. He said we're all part of a collective consciousness, Right? I believe that. I really do believe that. And I also believe that we are not really who we are as much as we are consciousness experiencing the human condition. Right. So almost like a simulation. I know that sounds really crazy. And for maybe for, you know, the intellectually impaired and small minded people, that's a hard one to get their head around. But when you start doing the work and start looking at it, start thinking about, it's like, that could be very possible, right? Yeah, it explains a lot of things.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So give you a good example is, you know, how we're all collective consciousness, right? So for example, my wife who's sitting out there right now, she and I think a lot about the same thing, which is out of the blue, right. I could be driving down the road drinking, you know, thinking, man, I sure like to stop at Taco Bell and get a bean burrito. And also my wife's like, hey, hey, let's go start Taco Bell. They love Taco Bell. My wife and son are Indonesian. They love Taco Bell. I turned them into Mexicans, I think. But yeah, like, let's go Taco Bell. Like, how'd you know I was thinking about that? Right. But we do it all the time, and it's because it's what's called entrainment, right. So we start getting on the same frequencies.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The more we know people around the certain, certain people, the same people, we start to think alike and we start anticipating other people's reactions and actions and things like that. You know, I'll give you a crazy story just to kind of drive this point home real quick is I was in a helicopter crash back in on Mother's Day in 1990. May 1990, Darien Province in Panama. I was in the unit, went down in a Blackhawk, lost the number one engine. At 206ft, triple canopy jungle. First thing the pilots did was kill the fuel. We hit a tree, snapped the rotor blades off to the hubs and we turned into a giant lawn dart flying through the jungle. No lift, right? And, and I remember, you know, the processing all this as it was happening, which was like super fast, right? But it did seem like it slowed down. And then the impact was just brutal, man. I ended up with a broken back. I was in a body cast for like five months. And it was, it was a bad crash. Fortunately, everybody survived except for one guy. He almost passed. They resuscitate him about four or five times. He shattered his pelvis and was bleeding out. But anyways, so all this happened, right? Big deal. I end up in Gorgas Army Hospital. Then I end up at Fort Sam Houston. Then I finally end up at Bragg Womack Army Hospital. I'm in a body cast. I've got convalescent leave. I go home to go see my mom because I got nothing else to do. I'm in a body cast and I'm sitting in the living room with my mom and dad. Dad talking about the event. And after I get done, my mom's like, you know, son, I was in the hospital too, not too long ago. Now that surprised me because my mom is never sick. My mom is never in the hospital. My mom doesn't do any drugs, medicine, nothing. She's. And now she's 82 years old, right? She's, you know, hardcore German. She just got that hardcore German blood in her, man. And like, what mom? What happened? And she goes, well, she goes. One day I was. So she worked at Montgomery Wards when Montgomery Ward's was still open in the furniture department for like 20 years, right? That was her thing. And she goes, yeah, I was just walking down the aisle, furniture department. All of a sudden I got really light headed and just fell out and woke up in the hospital. And she goes, next thing you know, the doctor says, ma', am, we don't know why you passed out. All your tests are good. Nothing's wrong with you. You're free to leave, right? And I go, really? I said, where's your medical report? She pulls out, looks, gives it to me. Now, I crashed on Mother's day, May in 1990, at 3:30pm Central Standard Time. Okay? My mother passed out at 13:30 hours Pacific Standard Time. On the same day. Same time.

[A]

No way.

[B]

Exact same time. And I said, tell me what you felt, Mom. She goes, I just felt overwhelmed, like this rush, you know. She was. I Can't even explain it. Just then lights went out and I woke up in the hospital. And you haven't been so sick then. Assistant. She goes, no. And so that was my first account, right? So now fast forward. My dad had a heart attack, didn't kill him, and he was good to go. And several years later, I'm in Lisbon, Portugal, walking around my. I was there with my special forces team. We were doing what's called live environment training. We basically immersed ourself. We lived in a society. We lived with Portuguese families. We learned a language, went to school every day. It was a good time. Time, right? And on Sundays, I made it a point for my team to link up downtown Lisbon. We'd pick a coffee shop or something, and we just did a team poop meeting, right? So I had stuff to put out because I'm still communicating with the rear and still. Still army guys, right? So. So I'm walking around Lisbon all day. I get up early in the morning, Sunday, got nothing to do. I'm window shopping and walking around, and I kept thinking about my father and the time he had that heart attack. It just kept popping in my head. No matter how hard I try to keep it out of my head, it kept popping in my head. You know, I'm like, focused. Comstock, there's a hot chick, you know, look at that over there, you know? And boom, my dad pops up again. And by 1700 that afternoon, I met my team at the coffee shop. It was outside. We're sitting there and oriented. And then my captain shows up, Nick. And he's like, hey, Sergeant Comps talk. Did you talk to your wife? I go, no. He goes, your wife's been trying to call you. You need to call your wife. Wife said, no. So back then, we didn't have cell phones. We had pay ATT calling cards, right? So I go to a pay phone, call my wife. She answered. I go, hey, what's going on? She goes, okay, don't panic. Everything's okay. But your dad had another heart attack. I said, how did I know that? I've been walking around all day thinking about this all day long. Sure enough, he had another heart attack. It didn't kill him. Right? And I've had this happen so many times. Times, right? And. And why did I know that? Because biologically, I'm closer to my mom and dad. This entrainment. I was talking about this frequency, right? It is a thing. Some people call it esp, call it whatever you want. Is a sixth sense. Yeah, we all have it. We Know it, you know, we, we, we have, you know, the regular senses, the five senses. Then we have, actually we have more than six senses. The sixth sense is, is this intuition, this knowing. I don't know where it's coming from, but I know something because it is actually frequency. Because we are tied into the quantum field through the pineal gland. And then there's the other one is called the etheric, right? So extends out anywhere from 6 to 45ft around us. And it's that, it's that field of energy around us so that when somebody walks up behind you to creep up on you and looking over your shoulder, shoulder. You're like, how do I know you were there? Right? Because they break the polarity in your field. Right. So we are a walking, talking sensory system.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

And, and we have the ability, I think, to know things even from a distance, from afar. I mean, how many times have you woken up in the morning? I just had this sense of foreboding for no reason, like something's just off.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then later on that day, something shitty really happens. Go, there it is. But that happened after the fact. But I had the sense of foreboding all in the morning. That goes back to, to this, the notion of time. This time really exists.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the theory is right now, no, Albert Einstein never believed time existed, right. In fact, you can reverse time before time. Time is just a thing, right? So, and now I think some studies just came out a couple days ago where, you know, we talk about cause and effect now. Sometimes you get affected to get caused, right? It's just so the whole world of physics is like, you know, being upended right now because we start to learn things, right? Especially through age, AI. And so the world is probably not what we really think it is. But so in that there's some hope there for me, right? And should be for everybody else. So I believe we never die and we will never die. And here's why, right? So laws of thermodynamic thermodynamics, right? Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, can only be transferred. Okay. So when you die, so your simple carbon based matter, right? Falls down, turns into worm food. But what happens to the energy from within that was in there? Where's it going? Where did it go? Right? Can't be destroyed. Where is it? It goes back into what? The quantum field, Back into the ether. I believe that's the case. I believe it lives on and I believe wholeheartedly now that we will always live, maybe not in body, but in spirit, right here we go again. Spirit and mind. I think we will always live because we are part of this collective consciousness. I had a guy was trying to trained and kind of a sad story, but it was actually two guys. One of them was a 28 year old Jewish millionaire, right? Good looking guy, good smart guy. Just a good dude, right? And his father wanted me to train him for almost two months on life skills, defensive skills, right? He said he's really smart, he's a good boy, he's got a lot of money, but he can't fight his way out of a paper bag, you know, he doesn't have the street smarts. And so he asked me if I would train him. And then I had another guy came along. Ready for this? He's a 28 year old priest and he wants to be a Green Beret. I go, that's, that's funny, right? So I got both these guys in my, in my, in my course for two months. And so I put them both up together in Airbnb. I said, you guys just have to get along, you know, put all your religious to the side. Just get along. Right. And so it's teamwork and, but anyways, had a really good time, time training these guys for a couple months and then they went apart and I kept up with them. And then Robert, the Jewish kid, I lost contact with him for like almost a year. My man. Where's he at? He's not answering me. So I call his dad up. Dad was great guy. And over the phone he explained to me that Robert was dead. Like, what? And this was the same time there was the, you know, the whole thing in Israel happened with the, you know, Hamas and on the, was October 7th.

[A]

Oh, that was around then.

[B]

Yeah. Right. And he wouldn't, didn't want to tell me what happened, but he goes, you know, you know Robert, he's always trying to help the little guys, you know, And I'm thinking, man, don't tell me he went over there and just thought he was a badass, you know, or something happened. He's in Miami, you know, he said, I really don't want to talk about it right now. He goes, but next time you come to town, he goes, I'd like to sit down with you and my wife and we'll talk about it, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So actually was last year. Year, because I was on your show last year, right around this time. Yeah, that's when I actually met him. So I went down to Miami, said, hey, I'm in town with my daughter, I'm getting Ready to leave. I'd love to meet you guys. And we did. We had dinner and a really nice couple, man, they were from. Where are they from? Belarus. Very strong, like, Russian accent to him. Pro Trump man. Hardcore Trump lovers. Just really good people. And sitting across the table from me, we chit chatted for a while. And finally I looked at him, I said, listen, I said, before I drive away today, I said, I really need to know what happened with Robert. I said, this is just going to drive me crazy. So dad was like, okay. Well, his dad was a medical doctor and they were very wealthy. He's like, listen. He goes, my wife and I went to Paris. Robert stayed home while we were gone. And when we came back, we found him dead on the kitchen floor. And what happened was he had gone out. Let this be a cautionary note for everybody listening out there. So he went and bought quail eggs, right? And I guess he thought he was Johnny Rambo and thought it was okay just to eat raw quail eggs, right? And he bought them in the carton, just like chicken eggs, and he was cracking them and eating them, right? He was a health nut, health enthusiast, you know. Now they had a little special Rambo training. He wanted to live the part, I guess, but it turns out. So the dad was like, what is going on here? What happened to him? And so his father did the work, looked into it, and it turns out that quails in the United States, some quails, depending on the region they live in, can eat. What is it? Nightshade. It's a nightshade. It's one of the most poisonous plants we have in America, right? It's from the nightshade, and they can eat the seeds and it doesn't affect them, right? So apparently he got quail eggs that had all this toxin in there from these. From this nightshade, right? He just got the bad batch and. And that's what he ate. And what it does is it shuts your kidneys down. Within hours, everything just starts shutting down. And he probably goes, man, I feel like crap. Maybe got the flu, you know? And it went down the kitchen floor and I was all over, just like that. She. Quail eggs, right? So, you know, boil your eggs, cook your eggs, right? I don't even know if that would have helped, but I didn't even know that either.

[A]

That's fucking nuts.

[B]

I didn't know that either. I didn't even know that was possible, right? So I see it happen a lot in Indonesia. They eat a lot of quail Eggs too. But I don't think they have a problem with nightshade. No, I forget which one it was, which nightshade it was, but I have to look it up.

[A]

But it was like scary.

[B]

The deadliest one to have here in the U.S. wow. You know, but anyways, I remember sitting at the table where I was going with the story was I was telling them, you know, what we did with Robert, the training, you know, Robert wanted to be waterboarded and all this stuff. You know, she's like, did he really ask for that? I go, yeah, he asked for that. And so, and so we kind of gave him, no pun intended, a watered down version of the waterboarding, right. That didn't last very long, but he wanted experience. I said, well, you're paying, I guess, you know, we're playing. And I told my, my assistant, I said, we got to make sure we don't hurt him, right? So we'll give him the experience without the real experience. But anyways, so they were just like enamored by all the stories I'm telling about their son or listening to intently. And then it was all over. It's like there was pregnant pause and mom was like, she goes, do you think I'll ever see my son again? I was like, man, that's a tough question, right? And I've got my 16 year old daughter with me. And. But I had the answer. I had the answer and I looked at her, I go, yes, you will. I said, we're all going to see Robert again. And you could see their eyes lighting up. See, they haven't had closure yet. That's what I realized at the table. There was no closure yet, right? I said, yeah, we're all going to see him. And I told him, I explained to him why. I said, because I said, we all are. Frequency, energy, spirit, soul, whatever you want to call it. We exist, we will continue to live on. I said, you're a medical doctor. I said, this should resonate with you from a scientific perspective of it as all as well, because I gave an example of my wife. You met my wife now, many years ago. We were laying in bed watching. What was that thing? Ghost, you know, with Demi Moore and Patrick Swayze. Remember? He gets killed.

[A]

I think I've seen this.

[B]

Oh, yeah, he gets. So somebody murders him right in the alleyway, rob him, kill him, right? But he comes back as a ghost, right? And she can, she can sense him, but she can't see him. But he can sense everything, right? He's trying to talk to her and she's like, that's odd. That's weird, right? And I remember we're laying there, my wife's like, do you think we'll ever see each other again when we die? Right? And I looked at her go, yes, we will. I said, we will see each other again. Don't you worry about that.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And she goes, you know what? My wife is so innocent, man. So innocent, right? She's like, well, she goes, promise me that when you see me out there, you say hello, okay? And she was serious, like. And I almost started crying when she said that because it was so innocent and so sincere, you know, like, we're going to be floating around in space and, hey, hey, I know you. We were married. That was kind of, you know, and it just crushed my heart when she said that. When you're so innocent and so naive, you know, and there's things you just don't know, you know, And. And I told that to, you know, Robert's mom in that story, you know, And I said, you know what? We will. We will see each other again. Not like this, but we will. Our energies will interact, and we'll always. So, for me, that's kind of. Of on a personal level is very comforting because I know that, like, right now, my father's up there listening to me. He's watching me. Everybody I've ever lost in my life is still out there. And one day we will meet again. And it's not as simple as we're just going to go back into the earth and, you know, turn into dust. It's more complex than that. And science is starting to prove it, you know, with the whole message metaphysics and quantum physics, you know, and the stuff we're starting to learn today. And just the things I've personally experienced. I mean, creating your reality. I do it all the time. I think we may have talked about it last time, but I manifest a life that, you know, just by my thoughts alone. And, you know, I. I literally create money, I create opportunities, I create happiness, I create sadness. Just. Just the function of how I think and not what I think. Most people don't know how to do that. And, you know, if, you know, and. And school won't teach you how to do it right? So if you think about it, school has never prepared you for adult life. It's never prepared you to be successful. It's taught you. It's trained you to be a slave to society. It's taught you how to stand in line, raise your hand, move when the bell rings. Right. It's how much shit have you learned in school, high school, in elementary school that really matters today? Like, nothing. Like, what did you guys. Why did I learn all this stuff about algebra and geometry when all I need to know is one plus one and math, you know, basic math, to count my money. Right. I'm not a physicist, but you learn so much. And it was done again, it goes back to Rockefeller, right, with the general education system. You know, he created this system that we all live in, and we've become slaves to it. I've decided to think way outside the box and look at what's really. What's really possible. And I've learned, as my wife has, that, you know, you're your only limitation. You're your only limitation. What you think is what's going to make. You're going to become what you think. Right?

[A]

So.

[B]

And I tell people, you can become how. What you think, but how you think. And so totally, man, you know, if you think differently. And this is the problem with the whole world we live in, everybody's so linear in their mindset. They're so caught up in all the drama that doesn't even matter. You know, they're so focused on, you know, what Trump is doing, what the Democrats are doing, what they're doing, that nobody's focusing on themselves going, how do I survive? Not just survive, but thrive and be a better version of myself. And you can, because you can create that reality. I do it all the time, you know.

[A]

Yeah, man, that's true. I tell my kids that all the time.

[B]

Yeah, well, I. I've done it since my kids were little. Yeah. You know, first thing I always tell my kids is, you can't say I can't.

[A]

Right?

[B]

That ain't a word.

[A]

Becomes true.

[B]

No, can't stuff. Right. Two, I said, you can be whatever you want to be if you want to be it. Right. You just got to. And it's not even hard work. That's the other misnomer. Right? Ah. If you work hard, you can be whatever you want. And I will tell you, if you're working hard, you're doing it wrong. It's not about working hard. You know, I use the term working smart, but even working smart is actually not it either. I mean, that is part of it. But if you have an imagination, you can create anything you want. You can have anything you want. You just have to believe it. It's imagination. And, you know, when people ask me cops, like, how did you do all these different things? When they first asked me that before I started coaching about eight years ago, I thought I was just keeping up with everybody else, right? And I didn't realize how much I had done. And then I started looking at it and my daughter called me one day, my oldest daughter. Good Lord, she's 41 years old. Can't believe that. But she's like, hey, dad, you ought to try coaching this, that and that, you know, And I do it and I follow a lot of guys and you could do really well. And I. I wasn't really sure that was for me, but she kind of talked me into it. And when I started looking at it and I was like, well, what am I going to talk about? Well, people want to know how you did all this stuff. That's when I started analyzing. I go, you know what? How did I do all this stuff? And then I realized what the secret sauce was. It wasn't lots of work or hard work. It was imagination. Everything I've created, I imagine it. I don't. I'm lazy. I know it sounds kind of stupid for a Delta operator, but I remember my team leader in the unit, one time he wanted to move a bunch of. Right. Bunch of equipment from the trucks up to the loft. He's like, hey, you guys, Comstock, you know, get all these boxes up there, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, man, that's a long way to carry some heavy. Right? And so I had a. Had a plan. Say, guys, we're going to use this crane over here as pallet. We're going to do this. We're going to put that on there.

[A]

We're going.

[B]

And my team, like, yeah, leave it up to a lazy guy to find the easy way to do it. I said, you know what? I think I'll take that as a compliment.

[A]

That's funny, man.

[B]

But that's good.

[A]

That's true, man. That's a strong. That's. That's. That's a powerful message. And it's important for people to.

[B]

To understand life is what you make out of it.

[A]

It is, man. Listen, man, this is a very positive way to wrap up this episode. Episode. And I want to thank you again for coming. Coming through, telling these incredible stories, bro. You're one of a kind.

[B]

Yeah, thank you.

[A]

And I hope we can do it again soon.

[B]

Yeah, anytime, man.

[A]

Tell people where they can find your stuff online, get in touch with you, all that.

[B]

Yeah. Best place to find me is just go to my website, dealcomstock.com. you can also find me Official American Badass on Instagram. Easy to access. Access there. I've got coaching programs, mentorship programs. Got several books out there. There you go. There's a screen up there. I got actually published a new book. I meant to bring you one. I'll have to ship it to you. Oh, hell yeah. It doesn't come in yet, but it's called Running the Laser's Edge and it's about my exploits in Yemen.

[A]

Yamin.

[B]

Yeah. And well, it's. Yeah. What happened there, how it happened.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But really it's more about leadership and more about the human condition than anything else. But you can pick that up on Amazon.

[A]

So.

[B]

So there's that and then what else? I don't know. I just do a lot of stuff. Stem cells. Oh, yeah, dude.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Have we talked about stem cells? We did.

[A]

We talked about it last time, dude.

[B]

Yeah. That's the bomb I've been doing for a year and a half. And you know anybody that's listening to me out here right now, you contact me personally. I will get you 100 million stem cells. Three train exosomes for 7,000 bucks. No. And it's all telemedicine, home delivery. We'll even send a nurse to your house to give it to you. It don't get no better than that. Shrek McVie went and spent 20 something thousand bucks at wherever the hell he went. Yeah. What? Don't waste your money. Come to me. It's. We're FDA approved and it's awesome.

[A]

Yeah, we'll link it all below. Thanks again, man. All right, everybody, you know what? You find the links down below. Get a hold. Dale, get the stem cells. I can't thank you enough, man. Your national treasure, brother.

[B]

Thanks for having me.

[A]

Thanks.

[B]

Yeah. Just hope on we kill. Bye, everybody.