The Kidnapping of Leslie Buck (Connecticut)

Summary

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Dark Downeast – The Kidnapping of Leslie Buck (Connecticut)

Host: Kylie Lowe
Date: August 28, 2025
Podcast: Dark Downeast – Maine and New England’s True Crime Podcast

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Episode Overview

This episode explores the shocking 2002 kidnapping and subsequent suspicious death of Leslie Buck, a beloved second-grade teacher from Stonington, Connecticut. Kylie Lowe unpacks the sequence of events—Leslie’s abduction by trusted handyman Russell Kirby, her escape, and her mysterious death just two days later. Through police records, 911 calls, autopsy findings, and interviews, Kylie pieces together the complex mystery, highlighting inconsistencies, suspicious actions, and the emotional toll on Leslie’s family, all while honoring Leslie’s legacy.

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Main Theme

A two-day spiral from violent abduction to unexplained death—a heart-centered investigation into whether Leslie Buck’s fatal injuries were tragic misfortune or the result of a calculated crime.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Leslie’s Disappearance and Kidnapping

[01:00 – 09:00]

• Timeline of Disappearance:
  Charlie Buck, Leslie’s husband, becomes worried when Leslie doesn’t return home by 10:30pm after her teaching sorority meeting.
• 911 Calls:
  • First Call: Charlie checks with family and police, growing anxious (03:58).
  • Second Call: After Leslie returns home physically battered, Charlie reports a kidnapping:
    • Leslie, shaken, describes her attacker as Russell Kirby, their handyman and former neighbor.
    • “Oh my God, I told you I never liked him.” – Unnamed female voice in background, likely Leslie ([05:23]).
• Kidnapping Details:
  • Timeline began at 8:30pm.
  • Leslie attacked in her garage by Russell Kirby, stunned, punched, bound, and driven away in her car ([06:42]).
  • She escapes using a spare key when Kirby stops the car to check engine trouble:
    • “When he got out of the car to check something, I just shut the door… and drove like crazy home.” – Leslie Buck ([07:35]).
• Motivation for Kidnapping:
  Leslie reports Kirby demanded $10,000.

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2. Investigation & Arrest of Russell Kirby

[09:00 – 15:00]

• Immediate Actions:
  Police arrive, Leslie is hospitalized for abrasions and contusions. Injuries noted but no extended hospital observation; Leslie returns home that morning.
• Evidence Collected:
  • In Leslie’s car: duffel bag with rope, tape, gloves, handgun, live ammunition, martinis, two stun guns.
  • At Kirby’s house: another stun gun, Colt .45 cleaning kit, other objects.
• Arrest:
  Kirby admits kidnapping was for money, not to harm Leslie; arrested and charged with multiple felonies by Friday morning.

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3. Leslie’s Death – Suspicious Circumstances

[15:00 – 23:00]

• Second Tragedy – 911 Call:
  • Less than 48 hours later, Charlie calls to report Leslie unresponsive at the bottom of the stairs ([10:50]).
  • “Her arms are so black and blue and her lips are so black and blue... There’s a big cut on her forehead and blood is dried on her. She’s been there for a while. There’s no pulse.” – Charlie Buck’s 911 call ([10:50]).
• Scene Observations:
  • Officers and paramedics note dried blood, minimal blood volume for a head wound, no sharp objects at the bottom of the stairs.
  • Early post-mortem changes: rigor mortis, lividity, cold skin.
• Immediate Suspicion:
  Timeline and recent attack lead police to treat death as suspicious from the outset.

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4. Autopsy and Forensic Findings

[23:00 – 26:30]

• Autopsy Performed by Dr. Malka Shaw:
  • Cause of death: laceration to forehead and basal skull fracture, leading to subdural hematoma.
  • Noted: Injury caused by blunt object with a sharp, 90-degree edge; condition of myocarditis present but not fatal.
  • Timing: Dr. Shaw estimates time of death was earlier than Charlie’s discovery.
• Crime Scene Gaps:
  • No corresponding blood or tissue on the staircase.
  • Injury described as likely inflicted while standing, with downward force.
  • Amount of blood suggests Leslie died quickly—raises question of assault.
  • Manner of death ruled undetermined, not homicide or accident.

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5. Charlie Buck Under Scrutiny

[26:30 – 35:00]

• Timeline Conflicts:
  • Charlie’s statements about his movements on May 4th don’t match physical evidence or witness accounts.
  • Receipts and phone records contradict his alibi.
• Personal Life Motive:
  • Multiple witnesses—including one named Gage and bartender Carol Perez—report Charlie was interested in Perez, gave her thousands of dollars in cash and gifts, and discussed divorcing Leslie.
  • On the day of Leslie’s death, Charlie visited Perez twice, culminating in walking her to her car after work ([29:10]).
• Possible Weapon:
  • Witnesses say Charlie joked for years about using a piece of heavy electrical wire as a weapon.
  • A sample brought to police matches the kind of wound Leslie sustained, per Dr. Shaw, though not uniquely so.

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6. Russell Kirby’s Background and Legal Proceedings

[35:00 – 41:00]

• Russell’s Relationship with Bucks:
  • Handyman, former neighbor, known for decades; seen with Charlie two days prior to kidnapping.
• Civil Suit Against Russell:
  • Leslie’s estate files suit to keep investigation alive and force testimony.
  • Russell denies forcible abduction in civil court, admits to tying Leslie up.
• Criminal Trial:
  • Russell charged but not granted plea deal.
  • Attempts to exclude Leslie’s statements fail; 911 audio played for jury.
  • Russell testifies to alternate version of events, saying Leslie attacked him first and that weapons were for self-defense.
• Charlie’s Fifth Amendment:
  • Called by defense, Charlie invokes Fifth on all substantive questions about involvement or possible plan with Russell.
• Outcome:
  • Russell found guilty of second-degree kidnapping and third-degree assault; sentenced to 21 years.
  • Defense hints at Charlie’s involvement but can’t link him due to lack of evidence or testimony.

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7. Questions, Theories, and Ongoing Investigation

[41:00 – 45:00]

• Unanswered Questions:
  • Was Charlie complicit in the kidnapping to get Leslie out of the way?
  • Did Russell act alone for personal motives or on someone’s orders?
  • Could Leslie’s heart condition have contributed to accidental death, or was foul play involved?
• Police Still Investigating:
  • Detective Sergeant David Knowles:
    • "This is not a closed case. We're not going to rest. I'm not going to rest. I know there's more out there. We just have to find it." ([43:40])
• Leslie’s Cause of Death:
  • Still ruled “undetermined” decades later.
  • Seven years after Leslie’s death, someone (identity saved for the next episode) is arrested for her murder after new evidence surfaces.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Leslie’s terrified return:
  "Oh my God, I told you I never liked him." – Leslie Buck, upon returning home, after her kidnapping ([05:23])
• Leslie recounting her escape:
  "When he got out of the car to check something, I just shut the door, shut that in. And drove like crazy home." – Leslie Buck ([07:35])
• Chilling details from Charlie:
  "Her arms are so black and blue and her lips are so black and blue ... her face is ice cold. Her wrists are ice cold." – Charlie Buck describing the scene to 911 ([10:50])
• Forensic uncertainty:
  "Leslie's manner of death remained undetermined." – Dr. Malka Shaw’s conclusion ([25:30])
• Detective’s resolve:
  "We're not going to rest. I know there's more out there. We just have to find it." – Detective Sergeant David Knowles ([43:40])
• Russell’s alternate story:
  "The only thing I could do is stop her." – Russell Kirby describing the alleged struggle with Leslie ([39:30])

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Timestamps for Critical Segments

• 01:00–03:58 – Leslie’s disappearance and initial 911 calls
• 05:54–08:00 – Leslie recounts kidnapping and escape
• 10:50–12:15 – Charlie reports finding Leslie dead
• 15:49–19:30 – Charlie’s activities and timeline, call logs
• 23:00–26:30 – Autopsy findings and forensic dilemmas
• 28:00–32:00 – Charlie’s relationship with Carol Perez and conflicting timeline
• 34:00–37:00 – The “wire” weapon theory
• 39:00–41:00 – Russell’s court testimony and trial outcome
• 43:40–44:50 – Detective Knowles on the case’s persistence
• 44:52–end – Preview of next episode: new evidence and arrest

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Tone & Approach

• Narrative: Factual, methodical, but compassionate to Leslie and her family
• Language: Clear, respectful, free of speculation beyond facts
• Ethical True Crime: Honors the victim while scrutinizing investigative gaps

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Conclusion

The Leslie Buck case remains a haunting New England mystery—marked by trauma, unanswered questions, and lingering suspicion over both kidnapping and death. The next episode promises to delve into later developments, potential suspects, and a possible answer to the question, "Who killed Leslie Buck?" As always, Kylie Lowe approaches the case with empathy, rigor, and a mission to keep these stories in the light until justice is served.

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[911 Dispatcher]

She's not home. There's no car. She hasn't been home. Something kind of worried. Okay. She's driving away. Park Avenue. Okay. I accentuate them. Okay. Did you want to file a missing person report? Yeah, I think I would.

[Kylie Lowe]

Stonington police officer Timothy Thornton responded to the Bucks Home to take the report and left shortly after. At 11:07pm, Charlie dialed 911 once more. He told the dispatcher they'd better send Officer Thornton back over. Leslie was home, but she was not okay.

[911 Dispatcher]

My wife just came home. She said she was kidnapped. You there? Yes. Oh, please. Oh, God.

[Kylie Lowe]

The call audio isn't the greatest, so let me decipher this for you the best I can, based on transcripts of the call contained in court records. As Charlie speaks to the dispatcher, you can hear a female voice in the background, clearly distressed. She says at the end of that clip, quote, oh, my God, I told you I never liked him. End quote. And then Leslie Buck took the phone and described for herself what she'd just survived.

[911 Dispatcher]

Any description of the people who did this? She knows who it is, she said, still on the phone. Hello? I just. I came home and this time that my husband was in the garage. He had a stunt gun. He grabbed me by the neck. He kept pulling me. He pushed me down. Then finally he tied my hand to the face. When he took me to his house, where I left him. What's his name? He punched me in the stomach and I tried to pull away. And finally We've been driving around in the car and he just got from 95 and he had the keys. When you hear the house key. Oh, God. Ma'. Am. Yeah? Listen to me. What was his name, please? Russell Kirby.

[Kylie Lowe]

The harrowing ordeal began around 8:30pm when Leslie returned home from the meeting. She pulled her Buick into the garage and when she stepped out of the car, she heard someone say her name. Leslie barely had a moment for the voice to register when she was struck in the neck. She turned to face her attacker and immediately placed his face. It was the Buck's handyman and former neighbor, 64 year old Russell Kirby. Leslie struggled with Russell as he punched her in the stomach and pushed her on the floor. He managed to overpower her and swiftly bound her hands and legs. He then got Leslie into her own vehicle and drove off. Leslie said that Russell brought her to his house and forced her to lay on the couch. After some time, he got her back into the car and proceeded to drive around the back roads of Ledyard, Groton and Stonington until the car started acting up.

[911 Dispatcher]

He stopped on 95 in between. In your car? In my car. And he has your car? No, I. I had an extra key in my pocketbook during the night. I got it out and had it by hand. When he got out of the car to check something, I just shut the door, shut that in. And drove like crazy home. Here.

[Kylie Lowe]

As Leslie described it, Russell pulled over to check what the issue was. Russell had loosened Leslie's restraints by that point, so when he was outside of the car, she seized her opportunity to escape. Leslie slid into the driver's seat, started up the Buick with a spare key from her purse and drove off.

[911 Dispatcher]

Do you need an ambulance, sir? No. Okay.

[Kylie Lowe]

The dispatcher asked Leslie if she needed an ambulance, and it's difficult to discern, but Leslie then responded, quote, I don't think so, but I got bad chest pains, end quote. The dispatcher asked for Russell's address, which Charlie and Leslie both said they didn't know. And then Leslie said her assailant told her why he did this.

[911 Dispatcher]

No, he wanted money. He needed about $10,000. He told me. What was he wearing? What? What was he wearing, ma'? Am?

[Kylie Lowe]

An officer arrived at the Buck residence as the dispatcher collected more information about Russell Kirby. Leslie was taken to the hospital for treatment that same night. According to court records, her injuries included an abrasion on the back of her neck from the stun gun, contusions and swelling to her wrists and hands, and abrasions to her Legs. She was not kept for an extended observation as might be necessary or expected in instances of head injuries, and she returned home with Charlie around 4am Almost simultaneously, police were knocking on the door of the person Leslie had identified as her kidnapper. An officer asked Russell Kirby if he knew why police were there, and Russell responded in the affirmative. According to the officer, Russell admitted to the kidnapping and said he did it for the money, not to hurt Leslie. Russell was arrested around 4:30am that Friday morning, May 3, and was charged with kidnapping, robbery, burglary, attempted larceny and second degree assault. When investigators searched Leslie's car that Russell had used in the kidnapping, they found a duffel bag filled with a bunch of questionable items. A hickory log, three pieces of rope, electrical tape, gloves, a Colt.45 handgun, an ammunition magazine with seven live rounds, bottles with a liquid in them later determined to be a martini, complete with olives, and two stun guns, although only one of them was operable. At Russell's house, Police found another 120,000 volt stun gun, a cleaning box for a Colt.45 and other objects. The investigation into the alleged kidnapping and assault was only just beginning. But according to reporting by Penelope Overton and Sudhun Tanawala for the Hartford Courant, Leslie reported to work that morning only hours after she left the hospital. She told her fellow teachers and administrators that she was tired and sore, but she wanted to be in the classroom where she felt most comfortable. When she left work later that afternoon, a colleague wished Leslie a good weekend. Things could only go up, he said to her, but that's not what happened at all. At 5:38pm on Saturday, May 4, another 911 call came into the Stonington Police dispatch from the 911 call. Her arms are so black and blue and her lips are so black and blue. There's a big red mark on her neck where she must have hit something. There's a big cut on her forehead and blood is dried on her. She's been there for a while. There's no pulse. There's no carotid pulse at all. Her hair is all dried and there's blood in the nose. Oh, sweetheart. Oh, she's cold. Her face is ice cold. Her wrists are ice cold. End quote. It was Charlie Buck again. This time he was calling to report that he found Leslie unresponsive at the bottom of their living room stairs. In the 911 call, he told the dispatcher that it appeared Leslie had fallen down the stairs and she needed an ambulance. At 5:42pm a Stonington Police officer arrived at the Buck residence and Charlie led him to the staircase landing where Leslie's body was lying. She was partially on her back with her feet on the bottom step of the staircase. She had some sort of wound on her head. The officer noted that there was a blood like substance on Leslie's head and face and blood like stains on her shirt. Some of the blood like substance seemed to be partially dried and matted in her hair. There was postmortem lividity present, meaning there was a purplish red discoloration visible on her skin, indicative of blood pooling. Her skin was ashen. When a paramedic arrived 10 minutes later, he too noted lividity in Leslie's extremities, especially evident on the lowermost portion of her arm and hands. She was cold to the touch when he checked for a radial pulse and her arm was stiffening as it would with rigor mortis. The paramedic observed head injuries but couldn't visually determine where the injury was because the area was covered with dried blood. On the topic of blood, the paramedic thought that there wasn't as much of it as he'd expect for a head injury. He also wasn't sure where she might have gotten the injury because he didn't see any sharp objects in the area of the stairwell that could have caused such a wound to her head. The paramedic presumed her dead at 6:05pm the first responders at the scene would later say that something about the circumstances seemed off before an autopsy was complete, before any lengthy questioning of witnesses or Leslie's husband. With her kidnapping and death happening so close together, police were already treating her death as suspicious. This message is sponsored by Greenlight. Remember summertime as a kid? 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First Responding officers at the scene on the night of Leslie's death took Charlie's sworn written statement. Within minutes of arriving. Charlie told the officer at the scene that he and Leslie went to visit Leslie's mother that day and returned home around 1:30 or 1:40pm he backed into the garage and shut the door so Leslie would feel better, given that's where she was attacked less than 48 hours earlier. Once in the house, Leslie opened the mail and they talked about where to go for dinner that night before Charlie said he had to stop into the office for a bit to do some paperwork. He was fairly well known around town as a firefighter. He also held an elected office and was the owner of an electrical business, Buck Electric, Inc. In Stonington. While Charlie was out, Charlie said Leslie was going to sit in the backyard to get some sun. Charlie told police he left home at 2:05pm and went to his office at 126 Elm St. In Stonington, about 4 miles away. He said he called home at 3:30 to see if Leslie needed anything before he got on the road, but when she didn't answer, he left a message on the answering machine. Charlie stated he left his office around 3:40 and stopped into a store to grab pepper spray for his wife, something to make her feel a little more secure after what she'd endured. Charlie then decided to go back to his office at 4:05 to finish paperwork, and then he said he left again a while later. As he drove by the fire department, he saw a friend's motorcycle parked outside, so he made a quick stop there before finally making his way home at 5:20pm According to Charlie, he walked inside to a silent house at 5:30pm Leslie didn't respond when he Called out for her and that's when he found her in the living room at the bottom of the stairs. Investigators saw no signs of forced entry to the Bucks home. There's limited discussion in the source material of evidence at the scene and maybe that's because there wasn't much to speak of. At least the answering machine proved to be helpful in developing a timeline because it had a log of recorded messages that resulted from missed calls to the Buck residents that day. The first was at 2:07pm it was a message left by a man named Robert about a banquet for the fire district. At 3pm, another message from a different caller about the banquet. And then at 3:27 was Charlie's message. Hi sweetheart. About 3:30 I'm over here, still working on my book work and getting my report for my meeting on Monday night and so forth. I was wondering how you are doing. Maybe you're sitting out in the yard, don't have the phone with you, which is unusual. Um, just wanted to check on you. Just wanted to make sure you're okay. Alright. I'll be home a little later on. I still got more book work to do and I want to get that mace you wanted or the pepper spray or whatever and I'll be home. Okay. And you know, wherever you want to go eat tonight is fine. You know, we can go wherever you want. One south or whatever else. Okay, I'll talk to you in a little bit. Bye. Bye. End quote. There was one more message at 3:35pm from a woman named Judy. So for whatever reason, no one at the Buck residence answered the call about the banquet at 2:07pm Charlie had already told police that he left the house at 2.05pm so if his recollection was accurate down to the minute. He wasn't home when the call came in. But Leslie should have been. So why didn't she answer? Leslie's autopsy was conducted by Dr. Malka Shaw at the office of the Chief medical examiner on May 6, 2002. Dr. Shaw found that Leslie's cause of death was a laceration to her forehead and a basal skull fracture on the back of her head, which caused a subdural hematoma. Dr. Shah determined that these injuries occurred on the day of her death. And the laceration likely occurred first, followed closely by the injury on the back of her head. Dr. Shah concluded that the laceration on the front of Leslie's head was likely caused by a blunt object with a definitive edge similar to a 90 degree angle. Her forehead had a horizontal laceration measuring 1 inch horizontally with a gaping of 18 inch and a full thickness laceration of the scalp. Another notable finding from the autopsy was scar tissue on Leslie's heart from a heart lesion that was an indicator of myocarditis. The condition, according to Dr. Shah, would have weakened Leslie's heart, but it would not have caused her death without the prior injuries to her head. File this detail away for later. Dr. Shaw estimated that Leslie's time of death was earlier in the day, not the two to three hours before Charlie discovered her body. The final cause of death ruling was head injuries, according to Dr. Shaw, but the final manner of death could not be determined. More information was needed about the scene and the circumstances to make a manner of death ruling. With that, on August 2, 2002, investigators executed a search warrant at Leslie and Charlie Buck's home. Part of the search warrant included examining the size of the staircase where she was found. Karen Florin reports for the day that the staircase was 12ft long from landing to landing and 4ft wide from wall to wall, with 11 steps from bottom to top. During the search, investigators seized a curtain with a blood like substance on it. They took photos of the stairway, and they used a chemical test to detect the presence of blood on the surfaces. Those tests came back negative for the presence of blood. There was no blood, no hair fibers or body tissue or anything else to indicate a struggle or injury on the staircase itself. After reviewing the photos and measurements obtained during the execution of the search warrant, Dr. Shah determined that nothing in the stairway, not the railings, walls, window sills or floor, could have caused the laceration on Leslie's forehead. Dr. Sh stated that Leslie was likely standing on the stairs when she received the blunt trauma injury to her forehead, and the laceration was caused by a force from above in a downward motion, which caused obvious undermining of the wound. Undermining meant that there was a space or cavity beneath the skin tissue that wasn't visible from the outside. The injury would have bled immediately. And since there wasn't much blood at the scene, Leslie likely died quickly. In Dr. Shah's opinion, the fractured skull was consistent with a fall from an undetermined number of stairs, but also noted that her death was most likely the result of an assault. Yet because there was only one blunt trauma injury to Leslie's head, Dr. Shah couldn't be reasonably or medically certain of an assault. So Leslie's manner of death remained undetermined. A few months later, on March 31, 2003, with the death investigation still underway, The State of Connecticut Forensic Science Laboratory issued a report with further examination of the evidence. The front of Leslie's clothing had bloodstains, leading to the conclusion that Leslie was upright at some point after receiving the injury to her forehead. There were two bloodstains on the bottom of her right sneaker, so she was likely in a sitting position after receiving the wound. And some other bloodstains on her face were consistent with a natural gravity blood flow pattern from the wound. She had other bloodstains on her face consistent with contact transfer. And a bloodstain on the floor near her head was indicative of her head moving or being moved from left to right after the injury. The amount of blood at the scene was minimal, and there was no cast off pattern. Almost a year into the investigation, no pathologist or medical examiner or any other investigator could conclusively determine that Leslie died at someone else's hands. Based on the evidence that was available, no one can say that this was a murder, but it sure was suspicious. And it turns out that Charlie Buck wasn't telling the whole truth about his movements on the day of his wife's death death. His behavior in the hours and days afterward raised some eyebrows, too. Stonington police learned that Charlie had eyes for another woman. A witness named Gage told police that he worked at a restaurant and lounge in mystic called the Drawbridge Inn, and he'd recently become familiar with a customer named Charlie Buck. Charlie was always visiting the restaurant when a certain bartender was working. Gage believed Charlie had given the bartender a bunch of gifts, and he even overheard Charlie telling her he was thinking about divorcing his wife and that they should be together. Gage also said he overheard Charlie telling the bartender that he was afraid Leslie would take half of his money. Gage wasn't the only one who spoke of Charlie's interest in this other woman. Multiple employees saw him talking to her on numerous occasions. So investigators sought out this bartender for a formal interview on May 6, 2002. She was 33 year old Carol Perez. Carol told police she met Charlie while he was doing some electrical work at the business a few months earlier. And then he started coming into the restaurant every single day. Then Charlie started to tell Carol that he loved her, and he gave her substantial amounts of money that she understood to be gifts. According to Carol, he gave her $3,000 for a down payment on a car, $468 for car insurance, a $1,500 laptop, a digital camera, two pairs of shoes, a $100 briefcase, and a $450 bed. The gifts just continued from there. Carol stopped short of saying that she and Charlie were in a romantic relationship. It wasn't like that. They both just needed someone to talk to. Yet Carroll also said that less than two weeks before his wife's death on April 24, while she and Charlie were out shopping together, he pointed to a pair of underwear with the words Sexy Bride embroidered on them. Carol said he commented that the underwear would look good on their honeymoon. The following day, Charlie told Caril he loved her again and told her he was to going going to get a divorce. As for the day of Leslie's death, May 4, Charlie stopped into the inn twice to visit Carol that day. The first visit was in the early afternoon, though Carol wasn't sure of the specific time, and again around 5pm as she was wrapping up her shift, Charlie walked her to her car after she clocked out. Carol said that during their conversations that day, Charlie asked her to run away with him. She declined. One of the next times she spoke to Charlie was two days after Leslie died. Carol said he called around 8:30am on May 6 and told her that he found Leslie at the bottom of the stairs. In her assessment, Charlie was unemotional, delivering the news of Leslie's death. Caril said that Charlie explained how Leslie had been weak and someone else might have been responsible, but added he'd get over it and then asked what she wanted to do that day. Carol agreed to record a phone conversation with Charlie in the presence of investigators. During that call, Charlie openly wondered how police found out about her. Carol disclosed to Charlie that she told police about all the gifts he'd given her. Charlie then specifically asked Caril to mislead police about the nature and amount of money he had given her. He wanted Carol to say that the money was a loan, not a gift. Carol police obviously had more questions for Charlie at that point and brought him in for a formal in depth interview. Everything Charlie told police during the interview was consistent with his earlier written statement until he got to the 3 o' clock mark. During his formal interview with investigators on May 7, 2002, Charlie said that on May 4 he was driving through town in mystic around 3pm When a busboy from the Drawbridge Inn flagged him down and said some lights at the restaurant weren't working and so he pulled in to take a look. Charlie said he didn't fix the lights at that point, but left and later returned around 4:10 or 4:15 to check the lights again and to take a look at an oven. Then he had a Diet Coke before going home now. In Charlie's first statement, he said he left home around 2:05 and went to his office where he stayed until 3:40 when he left to buy pepper spray before returning to his office once more. A stop at the Drawbridge Inn was not part of his original statement. Interestingly, that supposed busboy couldn't be accounted for during the investigation, so it's unclear if he existed at all or if it was just Charlie's way of explaining his earlier visit to the Drawbridge Inn without mentioning Caril's name. Witnesses also confirmed that Charlie didn't go back to his office after buying the pepper spray and instead went to the Drawbridge Inn. Receipts show that Charlie purchased two pepper sprays from Cash True Value in mystic at exactly 4pm on the topic of Carol Perez, Charlie claimed she was just an acquaintance. He said he felt bad for her because she was going through a tough time with an ex boyfriend, but when pressed, he admitted that he'd given her cash and gifts but denied any sort of sexual relationship with Carol. When asked about his marriage with Leslie, Charlie said things were going great before she died, despite witnesses saying they'd heard him talk about divorce. After several hours and as the line of questioning delved deeper into the nature of his relationship with a woman who was not his wife, Charlie decided he didn't want to talk anymore and left the police station. On his way out, he told detectives that he had weapons in his house, including several firearms and a piece of wire he kept in the bedroom that was big enough to be used as a club for protection. However, when police searched the Buck residence, they were unable to locate the wire Charlie said he had. Now this wasn't the first time police heard about a hefty wire intended as a weapon.

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The topic of the wire surfaced again when on September 17, detectives interviewed another witness, a former employee of Buck Electric, who recounted something Charlie used to say. Charlie would hold up a piece of 500 MCM circular mills wire and say that if he didn't like someone, he. He would show them the wire, adding, if you wanted to hurt someone, you hit them in the head with this, meaning the wire. So Dr. Shaw, the medical examiner who performed Leslie's autopsy, examined the wire that the earlier witness had turned over to police and determined the diameter of the wire was consistent in measurement as well as other objects with 90 degree angles to the injury to Leslie Buck's forehead. This reads to me like the wire is consistent with the cut on Leslie's forehead. But other things with 90 degree angles could also be consistent with the cut, too. The wire was not a smoking gun by any definition, especially since there wasn't an actual piece of this wire found at the scene that could be tested for blood or tissue. All investigators had was a few witness accounts of Charlie talking about a wire used as a weapon. Charlie's own disclosure to police that he had a piece of wire at his house he kept for protection that they couldn't find, mind you, and a sample piece of wire from a witness that if used as a weapon, could cause wounds similar to the ones Leslie sustained before her death. Further witness interviews only placed Charlie Buck under greater scrutiny by police. A guy named Michael, who worked at the Drawbridge Inn, told police that when he showed up for his shift on May 4, around 4:15, Charlie was sitting at the bar and he seemed pretty nervous and preoccupied. He was rubbing his forehead and wringing his hands together. Michael said that a few minutes later, Carol took the stool next to Charlie. Michael overheard only bits and pieces of their hushed conversation, but he believes he heard Caril say something like, explain this to me about the police. What can they do? Michael said the conversation didn't go further than that because Charlie and Caril realized other people could hear them. And then Charlie left the inn a little after 5:10pm at the one year anniversary of Leslie's untimely and undetermined death, the investigation was very much seen still underway, not only into her death, but also into her kidnapping and assault by a guy Charlie Buck knew quite well. Was Russell's attack on Leslie and Leslie's suspicious death two days later related in some way? That's what investigators and Leslie's family were determined to figure out. Charlie had known Russell Kirby since 1969, before he was arrested on kidnapping and assault charges. Russell was the Bucks handyman, hired to take care of odd jobs at their property. At one point, he also lived across the street from the Bucks. But as of May 2, 2002, Russell was living in the town of Ledyard. Witnesses told police they saw Charlie and Russell together at Russell's place in Ledyard two days before Leslie was kidnapped. Before Russell Kirby was prosecuted on the kidnapping charges, Leslie Buck's estate filed a civil suit against him. In August of 2003. According to Ann Baldelli's reporting for the day, Leslie's estate was seeking damages for her kidnapping and assault. But the civil case was also seen as a strategic maneuver by Leslie's estate to keep the investigation into her death active. You see, Russell would have to testify in the civil proceeding, which meant he could be asked questions about the night of the kidnapping that he otherwise might not be available or willing to answer until his criminal trial later on. During Russell Kirby's testimony in the civil proceedings, he denied that he forcibly abducted Leslie, but admitted that he tied her hands and feet. He said that he used a stun gun against Leslie, but in one explanation, he said he only had it on him because he used it to jump start his vehicle. He testified that no one asked him to kidnap Leslie. Now Charlie Buck was also called to testify with the victim of Russell's attack. Now unable to speak for herself. Charlie's recollections of that night would have been valuable to the civil case. But because Charlie had been a target of the investigation since day one, his attorney advised him to invoke his Fifth Amendment right to not incriminate himself. Charlie only answered one question. He confirmed that he was married to Leslie Buck, but would not answer any questions about the night she was kidnapped. A default judgment was entered in favor of Leslie's estate on the civil suit because Russell failed to respond to it in time. The ruling allowed Leslie's estate to attach Russell's Property to the suit to collect damages. Back to the criminal case, Russell was offered a deal by the state prior to his criminal trial. They'd give him 14 years in prison with the right to argue for less in exchange for guilty pleas to second degree kidnapping, third degree assault, and first degree burglary. Russell did not take the offer. Before trial, Russell tried to get any statements that Leslie made to medical personnel, police and hospital staff about the kidnapping thrown out because now that she was deceased, Russell could not confront his accuser. He argued that the statements, which would be relayed mainly via testimony from the personnel who heard them, would be hearsay. Russell also wanted his own statements to police and a set of car keys belonging to Leslie that police found at his house to be thrown out as evidence. In a key ruling, a judge decided that Leslie's statements were admissible, and so a jury would hear everything Leslie told first responders, police and hospital staff about her kidnapping. The judge also did not suppress the car key evidence or Russell's statements made to police because the judge found that he said those things voluntarily. He was not in custody, and he had invited police into his home. With that, the case proceeded to trial. But it was more than just a trial. The testimony of witnesses, including the defendant, Russell Kirby himself, would prove to be another investigative avenue for the detective still trying to find answers in Leslie Buck's suspicious death. The first thing the jury heard was the voice of Leslie Buck herself. Audio from the 911 call on the night of May 2, 2002 was played in the courtroom so everyone could hear Leslie's own words about what happened to her that night and the description of her attacker. Some of the most powerful testimony was the stuff that the defense had tried to get thrown out before the trial. An officer told the jury that Leslie herself identified Russell Kirby as her attacker. Another officer testified that Russell admitted to the kidnapping because he needed the money. The jury also heard Russell's versions of events. For the first time, his admitted use of a stun gun on Leslie, tying her up, driving her around. He claimed that was all self defense. According to Russell's testimony, he walked to the Bucks house that night from a nearby train station because he had car trouble and wanted to see if they could help him or if he might be able to find some tools in Charlie's garage. He claimed that Charlie had given him basically blanket permission to use his garage anytime he needed. So Russell said he let himself in. Russell was in the garage when Leslie pulled up and got out of her car. He said her name and suddenly Leslie was attacking him with a heavy keyring that had a bunch of keys on it. Russell told the jury, quote, the only thing I could do is stop her. End quote. Russell admitted to hitting Leslie in the back of the shoulder with a stun gun, but he said it didn't do anything. He then admitted to tying her hands behind her back, but he was upset as he did it because this was his best friend's wife and he'd worked for the Buck family for decades. Russell claimed that Leslie was yelling at him about a check from a joint bank account that her husband used to pay him. He usually paid Russell from a different account. They only got into Leslie's car, he said, because Leslie insisted she demanded that Russell take her to see Charlie. Russell said he agreed to drive Leslie to see her husband, who was at a restaurant. But then he changed his mind on the way there because he didn't want Leslie to embarrass. Embarrass herself in front of Charlie. Instead, Russell opted to take Leslie to his house where he encouraged her to take a load off and put her feet up while he collected the tools he needed to fix his truck, which was still on the side of the road somewhere. Russell testified that they got back into Leslie's car and they were on their way back to his own vehicle when Leslie's car started having trouble too. Russell pulled over and got out to check the issue, and that's when she sped off. Russell denied ever telling police that he kidnapped Leslie for the money. As for the bag of weapons and rope and other supplies, that certainly looked like they could be used in a kidnapping. Russell said that he was doing some work at a job site and there was a dog there that attacked him once he intended to use the items in the bag on the dog should it ever try to attack him again. The stun guns, the firearm, even the martini was intended to ward off the dog, he testified. Now Russell Kirby's defense attorney called Charlie Buck himself as a witness, but jurors would not hear from him in any meaningful way. When Russell's defense attorney asked if Charlie ever made a plan with the defendant to abduct and murder Leslie, Charlie declined to answer that question and every question after he repeatedly refused to testify. After asserting his Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination, the defense attorney argued that without Charlie answering any questions, Russell wouldn't get a fair trial. He wanted Charlie to be granted immunity so that the jury could hear from him. State's Attorney Kevin T. Kane was described as emphatic when he stated that there would be no offer of immunity for Charlie Buck. So the jury was released to deliberate without hearing from Charlie. And when they returned, they'd found Russell guilty of second degree kidnapping and third degree assault and not guilty of two counts of first degree burglary. A judge later sentenced him to 21 years in prison, the maximum sentence. Immediate motions filed by Russell's defense attorney for a new trial were rejected. Throughout the trial, Russell's defense attorney alluded to Charlie Buck's possible involvement in what happened to Leslie on the night of her kidnapping and assault. No doubt the investigation hadn't moved past Leslie's husband either, and her suspicious death case was far from closed. Stonington police Detective Sergeant David Knowles said of the continued efforts. At some point in time, we will try to have a conversation with Mr. Kirby. You can call this trial what you want, say chapter one and say now that we're heading into the next chapter of this case. This is not a closed case. We're not going to rest. I'm not going to rest. I know there's more out there. We just have to find it. End quote. Leslie's manner of death has not changed in the 23 plus years since she died. Undetermined, her case has never been ruled a homicide. Yet seven years after Leslie's lifeless body was found at the bottom of the staircase case in her own home, someone was arrested and charged with her murder. In the next episode of Dark down east, the deeper investigators dug into Leslie's death, the more inconsistencies surfaced in the story and timeline of a key witness. Circumstantial evidence piled up, finally amounting to enough probable cause to make an arrest, only for the trial to become a battle of the experts on all with differing opinions about what ultimately ended Leslie's life. The state's medical examiner pointed to a head injury. But a new report changed everything and challenged the theory that investigators were trying to prove was the killer in this case. Leslie's own heart. There's so much more to cover. It's coming next week on Dark Down East.

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