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Austin Campbell is founder of Zero Knowledge Consulting, and a former risk and asset manager for JPMorgan, Citigroup, and Paxos. We sat down to peel back the curtain on who Gary Gensler really is: an ambitious careerist who, as far back as his time at the CFTC, cared more about immediate results than big-picture consequences.

Now, Campbell says Gensler’s freewheeling campaign against crypto is opening a Pandora’s Box that threatens the very underpinnings of the U.S. economy. Under his theory of crypto, securities laws could be used to go after not just Pokemon collectors, but U.S. public sector unions, or pretty much anything that a future President doesn’t like.

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