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Data Xposure: The Podcast for Data Risk Leaders
Hosted by Exterro · EN
What’s hiding in your data could cost you everything.
Data Xposure is Exterro’s biweekly podcast for senior legal, privacy, compliance, and digital forensics professionals navigating the ever-evolving landscape of data risk.
Each 20-minute episode dives into the headlines—major breaches, court cases, enforcement actions—and unpacks the real breakdowns behind the news: misaligned policies, siloed systems, and operational blind spots. Through narrative storytelling and expert interviews, we connect the dots between real-world failures and the proactive strategies used by successful organizations to avoid them.
Designed for leaders who want to elevate their influence, sharpen their risk posture, and lead with confidence, Data Xposure cuts through the noise to deliver urgent, actionable insight—with a tone that’s curious, clear, and grounded in reality.
If you're responsible for managing data risk across legal, IT, security, or compliance—this is your front-row seat to the moments where strategy meets consequence.
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From Depp-Heard to Epstein: How eDiscovery Became Everyone’s Problem | Data Xposure - Ep 16
May 500:39:31Tap to summarizeThe headlines are hard to ignore.High-profile cases— the scrutiny of celebrity text messages and photos in the Depp-Heard litigation to the release of Epstein-related documents—have turned private communications into public evidence. What was once buried in legal proceedings is now playing out in real time, shaping reputations, careers, and corporate risk.But these aren’t edge cases. They’re signals.In this episode of Data Xposure, we explore how eDiscovery has moved into the mainstream—and why it now impacts far more than just legal teams. Because the same types of messages, files, and digital conversations making headlines are being created inside your organization every day.Doug Austin, a leading voice in eDiscovery with over 30 years of experience and the Editor of eDiscovery Today, joins us to unpack what’s changed—and why so many organizations are still unprepared. From the explosion of collaboration tools to the growing expectations of regulators and courts, he explains how everyday data has become a business-wide liability if it’s not properly understood and managed.For legal, compliance, and security leaders, this is the shift: eDiscovery is no longer a moment you prepare for. It’s a continuous reflection of how your organization operates.Because as recent headlines make clear—the risk isn’t just in what’s exposed.It’s in what’s been there all along.Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/
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When What You Find Online Becomes Evidence—and a Liability | Data Xposure - Ep 15
Apr 2100:44:08Tap to summarizeWhat if the information your team relies on… isn’t as reliable as it looks?In today’s investigations, it’s never been easier to find information online. Social media, public records, data brokers—answers are everywhere. But in this episode of Data Xposure, we explore a harder question:Can you actually trust what you find?Justin Tolman sits down with Jessica Stutzman, an open source intelligence expert and founder of Pangea Research, who has worked across law enforcement, national security, and the private sector helping organizations turn online information into actionable insight.Together, they unpack how companies are using publicly available data to support investigations—and where it can quietly go wrong.Because while this kind of research can uncover critical leads, it can also introduce serious risk:Drawing the wrong conclusions from incomplete informationRelying on tools you don’t fully understandUsing evidence that won’t hold up under scrutinyAnd when that happens, the consequences aren’t just technical—they’re business-critical. Cases fall apart. Decisions get challenged. Credibility is on the line.Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/
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Why Most Legal Departments Overspend—and How Legal Ops Can Help Fix It | Data Xposure - Ep 14
Apr 600:32:48Tap to summarizeCorporate legal departments are under constant pressure to control costs while managing growing workloads across litigation, investigations, and compliance. Yet many organizations still overspend, often because technology, vendors, and operational processes lack centralized ownership.In this episode of Data Xposure, Alayne Russom, Director of Legal Operations at Thrivent, explains how legal ops can bring structure, visibility, and discipline to the business side of legal.What listeners will learn:How legal departments overspend and why fragmented ownership of technology and vendors drives unnecessary costsStrategies for reducing outside counsel spend by bringing more work in-houseHow legal ops leaders can optimize processes so legal teams work more efficiently across the business.Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/
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Take Back Control How In-House Legal Teams Are Reclaiming Power in Litigation | Data Xposure - Ep 13
Mar 1800:43:16Tap to summarizeLitigation risk isn’t just growing. It’s spreading. And too many legal teams are still responding the old way, collect everything remotely related to litigation, ship it out for collection and review, and hope for defensibility later.In this episode of Data Xposure, brought to you by Exterro, Greg Gruic, a computer science engineer turned Law Operations leader at Marathon Petroleum, explains how in-house teams hope to reclaim more control. His approach: stop exporting risk and start tightening governance before litigation begins.Listen to this podcast to learn:Why data sprawl is leaving legal departments less prepared than everHow “evergreen” data maps and intake workflows prevent downstream chaosResetting engagement expectations so outside counsel works inside your controlled environmentThanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/
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Overcoming the ‘What If We Need It?’ Mindset: Building a Culture of Defensible Deletion | Data Xposure - Ep 12
Mar 300:35:10Tap to summarizeWhat’s really driving your data retention decisions: policy, or fear?In this episode of Exterro's Data Xposure podcast, host Fahad Diwan sits down with Ryan Zilm, Director of Information Governance & Privacy at H2O America and former ARMA International President, to confront one of the most common and dangerous cultural defaults inside large enterprises: “What if we need it?” Ryan shares the story of leading a large-scale ROT (redundant, obsolete, trivial) cleanup campaign and the deeper lesson it revealed: organizations don’t struggle with deletion because of technology they struggle because of mindset. What starts as hesitation quickly compounds into expanded discovery scope, unnecessary legal hold complexity, regulatory exposure, and a broader attack surface for security teams.Through real-world examples of stakeholder resistance, executive alignment, and hard-earned leadership lessons, Ryan explains how to replace fear-based retention with defensible, policy-driven deletion.For legal, privacy, and security leaders under pressure to reduce risk without increasing resources, this episode reframes deletion as a strategic control, not a reckless act.What You’ll Walk Away With:A clear understanding of how the “What if we need it?” mindset increases litigation, regulatory, and breach exposure.Practical strategies for shifting organizational culture from data hoarding to defensible deletion.Because in today’s enterprise, keeping everything isn’t safe, it’s risky.Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/
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Playbook-Driven Litigation Readiness: The Strategy Legal Leaders Can’t Skip | Data Xposure - Ep 11
Feb 1700:28:27Tap to summarizeLitigation isn’t slowing down—and the stakes are only getting higher.In this episode of Data Xposure, host Jenny Hamilton, Exterro’s Chief Legal Officer, is joined by Patrick Butts, Director of Legal Operations and Information Governance at Hilltop Securities, to explore what it really means to be litigation ready in today’s data-driven world.They go beyond reactive crisis response to reveal why a smart, end-to-end playbook is essential—not just for legal efficiency, but for enterprise risk management. From proactive data governance to streamlined eDiscovery workflows, Patrick shares how leading organizations are building litigation systems that are scalable, defensible, and built to perform under pressure.Why it Matters:Litigation readiness is a strategic imperative. Without the right systems in place, organizations face rising legal costs, regulatory exposure, and reputational damage. This episode delivers actionable insights for legal, IT, and compliance professionals ready to lead from the front.Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/
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The Human Side of Readiness: Coaching Legal, IT, and Security Teams for Litigation Success | Data Xposure - Episode 10
Feb 300:48:09Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Data Xposure, host Jenny Hamilton sits down with Rasheedah Bilal, a senior litigation and eDiscovery leader at Bill.com, to explore an often-overlooked factor in litigation readiness: your team’s ability to execute under pressure, with the resources and people you already have.Drawing from Rasheedah’s journey from the military to the classroom to the corporate legal world, this conversation dives deep into what it really means to be "ready." It’s not about chasing the perfect resourcing model, it’s about coaching people toward their strengths, bridging gaps across departments, and leading with trust, especially when expectations don’t match reality.Jenny and Rasheedah unpack how misaligned roles, unclear responsibilities, and rigid expectations can stall progress in high-stakes matters, and what leaders can do to build cross-functional muscle memory between legal, IT, and security.Because at the end of the day, litigation success isn’t just about tools or processes. It’s about people and how well they work together when it counts.Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/
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Beyond Breach: Why Data Loss Prevention Is Every Leader’s Problem | Data Xposure - Episode 9
Jan 2100:46:45Tap to summarizeOn this episode of Data Xposure, forensic expert Robert Fried joins host Justin Tolman to unpack what true data loss prevention (DLP) requires in today’s volatile environment. This isn’t about box-checking software—it’s about building systems that protect your organization’s most sensitive assets without grinding operations to a halt.Drawing from decades of frontline investigations, Fried shares why many companies fail to detect—or properly respond to data leaks, and how legal, security, and compliance leaders can better collaborate when the stakes are highest.You’ll learn:Why data loss is escalating across industries and who’s most vulnerable right nowHow forensic readiness gives organizations a crucial edge in crisis responseWhen and why outside experts are critical to preserving legal defensibilityWhy communication breakdowns are still the #1 risk amplifier during investigationsHow to balance AI’s efficiency with the irreplaceable nuance of human judgmentWhat emotionally intelligent leadership looks like when your company is under scrutinyWhether you’re navigating new SEC cybersecurity rules, juggling breach notification obligations, or trying to secure a buy-in for DLP tools, this episode will arm you with practical insight and strategic perspective.Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/
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The Year Everything Changes: Data Governance, AI, and Litigation Risk in 2026 | Data Xposure - Episode 8
Dec 800:33:09Tap to summarize2026 will mark a turning point for organizations managing sensitive data across legal, privacy, security, and forensics. With AI creating new categories of discoverable data, regulators increasing demands for documentation, and courts penalizing manual, inconsistent processes, the old playbook is no longer defensible.In this webcast, Fahad Diwan, Jenny Hamilton, and Justin Tolman deliver a fast, insightful breakdown of 2025’s biggest trends—and their predictions for what comes next. Expect clear guidance on how to modernize preservation, rationalize data sources, prepare for AI governance, and build a defensible, automated strategy that stands up to both regulators and opposing counsel.Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/
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Building a Data Privacy Program from Scratch in a Cloud-Native World | Data Xposure - Episode 7
Nov 1700:33:05Tap to summarizeWhat does it take to build a privacy program from the ground up in a high-growth, cloud-native tech company? In this episode, host Fahad Diwan sits down with Jamie Massaro, Senior Privacy Analyst at Spectro Cloud—a platform that helps enterprises manage and scale data environments across cloud, on-prem, and edge—to unearth the practical lessons learned from the frontline.Together, they explore how to set and evolve priorities when moving from manual spreadsheets to a scalable program, the most surprising roadblocks and biggest challenges in building a privacy-first culture, the essential role of technology in enabling—or hindering—compliance at scale, why privacy can't be a silo and must connect to a broader data risk strategy, and what emerging trends in data governance and security other leaders might be missing.Thanks for tuning in to the latest episode of Data Xposure. Don’t forget to subscribe so you never miss an update. For show notes, resources, and to connect with us, visit exterro.com/data-exposure-podcast/
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