An X-Rated Episode

Summary

De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan: An X-Rated Episode

Release Date: March 13, 2025

In the "An X-Rated Episode" of De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan, hosts Dani and Jordan delve into a candid and unfiltered conversation, touching upon personal experiences, health and wellness, relationship dynamics, parenting strategies, and societal observations. Drawing from over a decade of experience in the influencer industry, the episode offers listeners a deep dive into the complexities of modern life, influencer culture, and personal growth.

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1. Coping with Loss and Personal Reflections (00:21 - 03:02)

The episode opens with a heartfelt discussion about the loss of their pet, Lola. Dani shares the emotional turmoil of deciding how to honor Lola’s memory, ultimately choosing to keep her ashes beneath their bed. Jordan adds a touch of humor, mentioning their producer's reaction to their unconventional memorial choice.

Notable Quote:

• Dani (00:36): "I instantly cried when I got Lola. I mean, Hazel's ashes as well, but it's like, what do you do with them?"

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2. Health, Diet, and Algorithmic Realities (03:15 - 10:03)

Dani and Jordan transition into a discussion about health and wellness, contrasting their differing algorithmic views. Jordan highlights a conversation with their Gen Z producer, who perceives the world as "doom," whereas Dani’s algorithm is more optimistic, reflecting initiatives like eliminating red dye in candy and addressing fluoride in water.

They delve into their personal health journeys, with Jordan sharing his struggles with weight loss and dietary adjustments recommended by ChatGPT. Dani emphasizes the importance of individual health—spiritually, mentally, and physically—as the foundation for collective well-being.

Notable Quote:

• Jordan (07:17): "I have started losing weight. Listen, my whole 2025 is a series of counterintuitive thoughts."

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3. Relationship Dynamics and Personal Growth (10:55 - 27:03)

A significant portion of the episode focuses on Dani and Jordan's marital relationship. They recount a recent disagreement sparked by a canceled ski trip with a friend, Connor. This conflict serves as a catalyst for deeper discussions about emotional regulation, codependency, and effective communication within their marriage.

Jordan introduces the term "D mode," a playful label Dani uses to describe moments when he becomes irritable or overly assertive. This introspection leads to insights about their growth as individuals and as a couple, emphasizing the importance of understanding and supporting each other's emotional needs.

Notable Quote:

• Dani (15:24): "I feel like we have to turn this off if your kids are around."
• Jordan (16:00): "Because you're eating grass-fed butter."

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4. Parenting Strategies and Trust Systems (41:04 - 66:10)

Transitioning to parenting, Dani and Jordan explore the concept of incentive trusts—a financial strategy where children's achievements are rewarded with bonuses. They debate the merits and pitfalls of such systems, expressing concerns about fostering dependency and resentment. Instead, they advocate for empowering their children to navigate life independently, free from financial strings attached.

The conversation extends to modern parenting challenges, including navigating children's educational paths and respecting their individual aspirations. They emphasize the balance between guiding their children and allowing autonomy, striving to avoid becoming overbearing.

Notable Quote:

• Jordan (61:05): "These old Dallas money families got these trusts so dialed, it's insane."
• Dani (62:08): "I just want them to figure life out on their own. And I don't feel like it's a crutch."

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5. Breastfeeding, Social Media, and Public Perception (53:37 - 60:46)

Dani opens up about her exclusive pumping journey, detailing the physical and emotional challenges she faces. She expresses frustration over negative comments from viewers who scrutinize her breastfeeding practices, highlighting societal discomfort with natural parenting behaviors shared publicly.

Jordan supports Dani by condemning the backlash, reinforcing the importance of normalizing breastfeeding and encouraging women to feel confident in their parenting choices. Their dialogue underscores the tension between personal authenticity and public perception in the influencer space.

Notable Quote:

• Dani (54:23): "I'm just saying, the thing is, is, like, women can't help it."
• Jordan (60:25): "We can't let you go down that slippery slope."

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6. Mental Health and Self-Improvement (36:49 - 47:34)

The hosts delve into mental health topics, discussing Dani's read on "The Whole Brain Child" and its parallels to their marriage—Dani representing the emotional right brain and Jordan the logical left. They explore the concept of horizontal integration, striving for a balanced relationship where both emotional and logical aspects harmonize.

Jordan shares his recent self-discovery journey, identifying traits like "D mode" and recognizing the need for personal healing from codependency. Their honest exchange reflects a commitment to continuous self-improvement and mutual support.

Notable Quote:

• Dani (39:53): "The goal in parenting is to try to get your child to be horizontally integrated."
• Jordan (47:34): "I still feel very defensive about this reality TV show."

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7. Industry Insights and Influencer Culture (30:07 - 40:53)

Dani and Jordan offer critical perspectives on the food industry's response to weight loss trends, discussing how major corporations are engineering products to counteract the effects of GLP1 receptors—a mechanism targeted by new weight loss drugs. They draw parallels to past industry tactics, likening current strategies to how tobacco companies circumvented regulations.

The conversation extends to influencer culture, referencing Mr. Beast's intense dedication and the psychological toll of constant content creation. They debate the sustainability of such lifestyles and the impact on personal happiness and mental health.

Notable Quote:

• Jordan (30:29): "This is from Jillian Michaels, health person."
• Dani (39:53): "It's easier said than done."

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8. Future Endeavors and Conclusion (66:35 - End)

As the episode wraps up, Dani and Jordan contemplate future projects, including the possibility of producing their own reality TV show. They reflect on the balance between personal life and professional ambitions, underscoring the challenges of maintaining authenticity while navigating the demands of the influencer industry.

Notable Quote:

• Dani (66:43): "We should just end it right now."
• Jordan (66:46): "We can't let you go down that slippery slope."

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Conclusion:

"An X-Rated Episode" offers a raw and unfiltered glimpse into the lives of Dani and Jordan, blending personal anecdotes with broader societal critiques. Their honest discussions about loss, health, relationships, and parenting provide listeners with valuable insights and relatable experiences. By addressing both the joys and challenges of life as influencers, Dani and Jordan reinforce the show's commitment to authentic and meaningful conversations.

Notable Closing Quote:

• Jordan (66:56): "It's a problem though."

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Note: This summary intentionally omits advertisements, introductory remarks, and promotional content to focus solely on the substantive discussions between Dani and Jordan.

Transcript

[Danny Austin]

Foreign. The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hello, and welcome back to your favorite podcast.

[Jordan Austin]

D. What?

[Danny Austin]

Oh, I'm so sorry. D. Let's start over. Okay.

[Jordan Austin]

D. Influence. You're just gonna leave me hanging there?

[Danny Austin]

I know I was. I'm sorry. Well, actually, I think so. They. Can we turn up mine a little bit?

[Jordan Austin]

Or maybe both?

[Danny Austin]

Is it my voice that's low, or is it.

[Jordan Austin]

It's. It's your. I think it's your headphones.

[Danny Austin]

Okay. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Yeah, that's better. I think that's better.

[Jordan Austin]

Mine too. Hello. Hello. That's better. Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

Okay. Oh, my goodness.

[Jordan Austin]

Should we start over or. No, let's just roll.

[Danny Austin]

Let's just roll with it.

[Jordan Austin]

Just keep rolling. It's. It's real. It shows that we're not in this produced, overproduced studio. We're just filming this while you hold your Lola's mom cup in the D Influence room. I know. Too soon.

[Danny Austin]

So sad. We did pick up Lola's ashes. She's underneath our bed. That's where she likes to.

[Jordan Austin]

Right there.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, it is sad because it's like.

[Jordan Austin]

Producers don't know whether to laugh or not.

[Danny Austin]

No, it. It's sad because, like. Like, I instantly cried when. When I got Lola. I mean, Hazel's ashes as well, but it's like, what do you do with them? You know, are you supposed to.

[Jordan Austin]

They tried to sell us this urn, and I was like, oh, the box. Well, we have a box, but they tried to sell us like a. More like. You remember, like, Meet the Parents. Like the.

[Danny Austin]

Yes, like a pot. A clay pot.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. And I honestly, I. I kind of tripped up in the meeting or in the. You know, when I was there, because I was like. I just. I don't know what Danny would like, decor wise, and so it was tough to choose Lola's ear, so I just went with a pretty safe brown box.

[Danny Austin]

I didn't even open it. Not the box, but, like, the.

[Jordan Austin]

I don't think you're supp. Oh. I was like, I don't think you're supposed to open.

[Danny Austin]

No.

[Jordan Austin]

The urn.

[Danny Austin]

No, I. Maybe we should go out and scatter.

[Jordan Austin]

Them in the wind.

[Danny Austin]

Do people do that still? Let's think where Lola would want to be underneath our bed.

[Jordan Austin]

She's kind of where she. Where she loves.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

The place that she. Sorry, I'm not laughing it. She's right where she loves to be.

[Danny Austin]

Sweet Lola. I was thinking we should take her to, like, behind a Taco Bell. That's right. She loves to be.

[Jordan Austin]

You Mean, like, where you found her. Yeah, right, That's. I was gonna say that, too, but, you know. Yeah. So sad.

[Danny Austin]

We have to cut this.

[Jordan Austin]

Keep some of it in. We have to keep some. People will laugh. People laugh anyway, you know, speaking of edgy jokes.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

I've been. We were just having a conversation with our producer before this, and we were talking about our view of reality, and, like, we all have different algorithms. She's Gen Z. Yeah. And I was like, how do you feel about the world? And she was like, oh, yeah, I think it's. It's doom. And I was like, really? Because all my algorithm is feeding me is like, we are so winning right now.

[Danny Austin]

Like, as a country.

[Jordan Austin]

As a country. Like, we are about to so win.

[Danny Austin]

Well, there's.

[Jordan Austin]

What is your algorithm? You're. You're Maha.

[Danny Austin]

I'm Maha. So you're just a bunch of. We're making America healthy again over here. So we're slaying dragons. We got that red dye out of candy. I mean, now we're talking about fluoride and water.

[Jordan Austin]

Danny's cooking with beef tallow now.

[Danny Austin]

Tallow, magnesium, hydrogen, water. So I'm really. And I'm in a place where I'm not looking outward, I'm looking inward, and I recommend all of America do that.

[Jordan Austin]

Right, Right. So my question is, if you're Maha, are you. Are you politically.

[Danny Austin]

I see.

[Jordan Austin]

Are you controversial as Maha? Like, do people let you be Maha without being Maga?

[Danny Austin]

So it's hard because are they the same? People are like, this is not what we should be focused on.

[Jordan Austin]

Health.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Like. Or like, these are not the. The biggest issues in the world right now. Which I never said that they were. But like I said, I feel like the only way.

[Jordan Austin]

This girl had the flu 14 times. They're the biggest issues to you?

[Danny Austin]

Here's the thing, though. The only way we can all become healthy together is if we all focus on our individual healths, whether that's spiritually, mentally, or physically.

[Jordan Austin]

That is so healthy of you. Say.

[Danny Austin]

So I'm just like, everybody should look inward. But no, there's. I also see the chaos on the algorithm. Like, I saw Trump and Zelensky. Is that his. Yeah. Fighting, like, not cool. It got a little cuckoo up in that room.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, my gosh. Can I show you this video? Just so. Oh, my gosh. I sent this to my friends. You're gonna die laughing. So someone took a clip of those Alinsky and Trump thing, and I'm gonna let her watch it, and then I'll explain it Basically, they took.

[Danny Austin]

Wait, wait.

[Jordan Austin]

Okay. So for. For no one like watching this, hopefully they overlay it. But for no one watching this, they basically photoshopped this giant settlers, a catan board in, and it was like Trump saying, you don't have the cards. You don the cards. And he's like, I'm not playing with cards. And it's face of them.

[Danny Austin]

You don't have the power. You don't have the cards.

[Jordan Austin]

Them arguing over Settlers at Katan Trade, that was. That was brilliant.

[Danny Austin]

Internet, that's a funny meme. You know why it's even funnier?

[Jordan Austin]

Why?

[Danny Austin]

So we really sad. My friend Janine of 12 years. My friend of 12 years, Janine. I just repeated myself. But word.

[Jordan Austin]

Did I mention we've been friends for 12 years?

[Danny Austin]

Did I mention she recently moved to Oklahoma? They announced they moved to Edmond. So sad that she left. But we had a going away party for her. And this is Janine's party. It's a pizza party. The girls go all out on the decor. We're all focused on Janine. Jordan brings Settlers of Catan, like the game that every single female hates, especially Janine. And he has brought this game over to every single friend hangout group that we have had.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

And every single time the girls come to me and they're like, jordan brought Settlers.

[Jordan Austin]

No, it's. It's a bit at this point like, listen, we never play. Our friends have never played this game with me, but I always am like, oh, you know, we're hanging out. We could play Settlers. And everyone's like, no one wants to ever play Settlers. So now I just bring it around as a joke. And like, I walk into every party with this game. And truly, there's always like one person, though, at these parties, and they come up and they're like, bro, nice move.

[Danny Austin]

We try.

[Jordan Austin]

Great.

[Danny Austin]

Nice try. I actually don't mind playing it. I think it's kind of fun. But last time we played it with my mom, like, she gets so feisty. It's hard.

[Jordan Austin]

So here's the other thing. I want to go back to this Maha versus Maga thing. I want to get slightly controversial. So I just genuinely want to know, are you controversial because you're Maha?

[Danny Austin]

I don't know. Would you say? Yeah. I mean, okay, yes, it could be controversial because of, like, the vaccines, like the measles outbreaks that are happening right now. That could get a little controversial for sure.

[Jordan Austin]

So tell me if this is just my algorithm lying to me, but didn't the former director of the CDC go onto a podcast and admit that the CDC had never really, like, hardcore reviewed the vaccine schedule. His name is Robert Red. Red. Not Redford. Robert. Fact checker Robert. It was a clip just going around. I think it was a podcast that just came out. Redfield, Robert Redfield. He just came out and, you know, admitted that the CDC had not deeply investigated the vaccine schedule.

[Danny Austin]

But I thought we were all on, like, the same page that, like, the CDC and who are, like, corrupt.

[Jordan Austin]

See this one? This is what I'm confused about. I thought we could talk about these things openly and then just do it our gins. Well, I don't, I am like, am I trapped in my own reality?

[Danny Austin]

Here's the best thing about a podcast is we don't get live comments, you know, so, like, it's not popping up right now. Like, you're wrong and you're. So you can just talk about things, like, openly.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, I will tell you one thing. Let me tell you a story. So did I tell you this? This week I found myself with one of the largest chicken supply chain consultants in the country.

[Danny Austin]

Can't wait to hear about this.

[Jordan Austin]

No. So price of eggs are up, right? And I asked him, I said, man, you know, chicken, your family's chicken.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

Why are the price of eggs so high? You know, he told me Biden slaughtered like 150 million chickens because of a potential bird flu outbreak. Fact check.

[Danny Austin]

So what is the bird flu? Do you remember when the, there's swine flu and then there was bird flu? How dangerous were these flus actually?

[Jordan Austin]

Good question.

[Danny Austin]

Do we know?

[Jordan Austin]

We don't know.

[Danny Austin]

Okay. Yeah. It just. See, my thing is, it seems like American obesity and like, our diet is actually killing us more.

[Jordan Austin]

You're so Maha.

[Danny Austin]

I'm just saying, like, it just, she's so mahogany. And it just feels like if we could get ourselves healthy, then when we get the bird flu, we would survive it.

[Jordan Austin]

Can I tell you something about my week? So did you know that I haven't really eaten any fats in, like, two years?

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, I, I, I do know that. Because you eat the same thing every day and it's very rigid. And every time we go out to eat, he won't eat anything because he eats before.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. Let me tell you this story. So I've been trying to cut weight for two years, and it was the weirdest thing. Like, I have friends who will drink like a 12 pack of beer and eat some chocolate, and they look great. And I, I will eat just one of those pieces of chocolate and I will retain It. And I have, like, cut my calories down. I've been trying everything on my health journey. Well, this week I had an incident, a little tiff with one of my friends. And it really bothered me. Like, I was like, so can I.

[Danny Austin]

Can we just tell this story? Yeah, it's not that big of a deal.

[Jordan Austin]

Okay.

[Danny Austin]

So I'm taking a shower and minding my own business. Listen to my praise of worship music. This has never happened. Okay? Jordan comes storming in the bathroom, throws the door open, and he's like, babe, you're not going to believe what happened. And I was like. I was kind of bracing for, like. I was like, what happened at the gym? Did you get in a fight? Did someone cut you off when you were driving? He's like, okay, so, you know, our friend Connor, he texted me the night before and asked me if I wanted to go skiing. And I was like, yeah, man. And then the next morning, he texted and said, never mind. I'm going with my family instead. Can you believe that? And I was like, what's the problem? Like, no. And he's like, well, he asked us if we wanted to go, and then he pulled out, like, so flaky. And I was like, okay, he's going with his family. It's not like he invited, like, his other best friends. Like. And Jordan was like. Had this, like, visceral frustrated reaction to it. And I was like, what is going on? Like, why is he so angry about this? Like, you literally found out the night before.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

And so then I'm like, so we're talking more about it, and I'm trying to be, like, a good wife.

[Jordan Austin]

I'm trying to ask questions, and I don't know. Listen, Danny and I have been going through a lot of renewing of our spirits, our minds, our communication, our marriage. And honestly, when you're going through so much growth, I was like, oh, my gosh. I'm just so tired of growing. Like, I thought that I was basically uncovering, like. Like, bad stuff in me. And it was like, coming to the surface and coming out.

[Danny Austin]

You're having to deal with your emotions instead of. Instead of being like, oh, whatever. You're like, oh, I'm upset with Connor now.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. So I was like, oh, my gosh. I just didn't know. Like, I've just been burying things.

[Danny Austin]

Yes.

[Jordan Austin]

That I feel. And I was like, I'm actually really mad that he didn't. He pulled out of the ski trip. Well, what really happened was I.

[Danny Austin]

Guys. So we got out of the shower and we're talking about it more. And like, I kind of start like, you know, getting curious, asking more questions. And like, I kind of start telling him like, hey, like, babe, I love you, but this is not that big of a deal.

[Jordan Austin]

Like, and then I was like, you don't understand me. You're. You're gaslighting me. And then I was like, how dare you? Like, this means everything. This is everything.

[Danny Austin]

So then I, I was like, jordan, are you taking like testosterone or are you on some type of vitamin that is like, affecting your mood? What's going on?

[Jordan Austin]

So then, so first of all, I'm natty. It's what they call it at the gym. I'm not on steroids and I'm not on testosterone.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, man, you really, really fooled us. Really. Liar.

[Jordan Austin]

That's so funny. That was good. That was really good. No, but honestly, I. So about two weeks ago, I was talking to ChatGPT and I was like, chatgpt, why can my friends drink 12 packs and eat chocolate and they have 6 packs and I don't? And chatgpt analyzed my diet. I uploaded all of my fit my fitness pal meal logs, which I had tracked for a week to chat gbt. And chatgpt is like, bro, you don't have any fats in your diet. And I was like, yeah, chatgpt, I don't eat fats because I'm trying not to have fat. And then it gave me this huge lecture, pretty condescending, about how you have to have healthy fats for hormone regulation. So for two, the week after that, I started adding like grass fed butter and not a ton, but just like enough to get like, my fats in. And I asked you, like, really convicted me. And I was like, oh no. I was like, I have changed my diet. And so then I go to ChatGPT and I'm like, chatgpt, listen, I'm having like mood swings, like irritable and like fits of rage. Is this normal? And it's like, and. And Chad GPT goes, yeah, Jordan, your body's like, re regulating, like, having fats. Like you're gonna feel irritable.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

For the next like two weeks. And then I said, is this like how Danny feels when she's PMSing? And it said, yeah, Jordan, this is how it happens. And it happens to her every single month. And then I go to Danny and I gave her a big hug and I said, I'm sorry, I'm PMSing.

[Danny Austin]

And I said, can you imagine having that once a month or can you imagine that? For nine to ten months straight when you're pregnant.

[Jordan Austin]

Because like I knew that you were right. Like I knew it wasn't a big deal, but to me it was. It was everything.

[Danny Austin]

I mean, you literally busted in my shower. Like I was just washing my hair.

[Jordan Austin]

Like, no, I know.

[Danny Austin]

You were so angry.

[Jordan Austin]

And so there's like if you encountered me within the past two weeks of my life and you found me to be a little bit irritable, a little bit snippy, a little bit more irrational, like I just want y'all to know it's because I'm eating butter now.

[Danny Austin]

Because you're eating grass fed butter.

[Jordan Austin]

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[Jordan Austin]

But honestly, the craziest thing in real talk, Maha talk is I have started losing weight.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, of course, because you're eating a more balanced.

[Jordan Austin]

Listen, my whole 2025 is a series of counterintuitive thoughts. The more that I let Dany just do her own thing and be autonomous, the more she respects me and loves me. Makes no sense. I did everything for you for two years. Got nothing. If I. If you feel autonomous because I don't.

[Danny Austin]

Want a father like I want a husband.

[Jordan Austin]

No, for real. So that's counterintuitive. If I eat butter, I actually start losing weight. Not gaining weight makes no sense. And so like there's like an episode of Seinfeld where like George Costanza like does everything opposite of what he thinks and he ends up getting like all these raises and like he gets this like really pretty girlfriend. And I feel like I'm in that era of my life where I'm like, I'm going to what would Jordan last year do? I'm going to do the opposite of that. And I think my life is going to totally change.

[Danny Austin]

It reminds me of when Tony Robbins got that poisoning from eating the same thing every day. The.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh yeah, he got mercury.

[Danny Austin]

Mercury poisoning from eating same salmon or fish every day.

[Jordan Austin]

I know.

[Danny Austin]

And he would. He was like literally poisoning his body, like slowly over time with mercury and then didn't realize it until he was like extremely sick, like had to be hospitalized.

[Jordan Austin]

I just hate how, I hate how there's such thing as like too much of a good thing because I'm such a rule follower. I'm so rigid and like, it's just. It kills me every time.

[Danny Austin]

I know, I know. But like that's why they always say like at the end of the day, like health is all about eating a well balanced diet. Like, well balanced. You have to have your healthy fats, your proteins.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

Your carbs, everything.

[Jordan Austin]

No, for sure.

[Danny Austin]

But yeah, you. You go pretty hard in the pain, which is one of the greatest things about you, is you have this insane dedication and drive and discipline, but it's just like, you have to be driven and disciplined towards the right thing or you're going to go too hard.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, we were listening to that Mr. Beast podcast.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. I related so much to that podcast.

[Jordan Austin]

It was. The episode is, I think if you Google diary of a CEO Mr. Beast interview. Around 40 minutes in, he starts being open.

[Danny Austin]

49.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, 49 minutes. And he starts being extremely open about how his rigidity and being the best and being the biggest YouTuber is actually making him so miserable.

[Danny Austin]

Well, they asked him. He talks about his mental health, and they ask him, like, are you happy? And he's pretty much, like, he doesn't say it out outright, but he's like, like, I'm. I'm miserable. Miserable because I'm willing to push myself in ways that nobody else is. Is willing to push themselves. Like, I'm willing to sacrifice in ways nobody else is. And it, like, no one would want to live the life that I live. And that's what makes me great. It makes me successful. But, like, you can't be great in success. Successful and be, like, basically content.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

And. And happy with your life and well balanced and, like. And he was just, like, he just keeps pushing himself every single day. And he talked about having the flu and he talked about getting sick. And, like, still, he was like, so sick. And still, like, he knew that he had to film these videos. So he's flying, like, 200 days out of the year, 250 days out of the year, and just going and going because he knows at the end of the day, that's what's going to make him great. But it's like, yeah, he kind of, like, admitted that it, like, he's miserable.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, he said. And I think what you and I related to the most was he was talking about the cycle, and the cycle is, like, he has a video that just crushes it. And then he rests for a day, and then he gets this itch of, like, I've got to get that dopamine rush again. And so then he'll come out with, like, stranded on a deserted island for seven days or, like, locking myself in a coffin for three days. And he keeps one upping himself. But he kind of talks about how the high of each one up is not enough anymore. The misery of having to chase the next thing is really the misery that we technically got caught in. Yeah, right. It's why we blew up the life.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

It's a cycle, but he's still going. And what's so crazy about Mr. Beast is, you know, he's out there raising money right now. We got invited to invest. Invest in feastables. No, no, Mr. Beast, like, the pitch that we got was, do you want to invest in Mr. Beast? Because Mr. Beast is going to be the next Disney. And so he's like, I'm listening to this interview in one ear, and then I'm getting this, like, oh, we're going to go and be the next Disney another year. And I'm like, this guy's not going to make it.

[Danny Austin]

I don't know. Or he. He will because he's willing to sacrifice everything. You know, it's interesting that he just got engaged, too, and he was talking about his fiance, and, like, he's like, there's very few people on this planet that could, like, I could have a healthy relationship with. And he's like, why? And he's like, because I need someone that basically is okay. Like, he's in. In, like, more words or less, he said, I need someone that's okay at being, like, second in my life. Like, work will always be, like, number one. And I need someone that's, like, confident enough and has their own life enough to be number two.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, is that what you heard? I heard under the scenes was like, I need someone who's probably more codependent. That's what I heard.

[Danny Austin]

No, because she does her own thing. Like, he. She has her own life. Like, she is basically, like, a genius. Like, I looked at this girl on.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, she is.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, she's extremely intelligent and she's always learning and, like, she's in school and. And he says that, like, basically when they get together, like, they just talk about, like, the lectures that she's, like, learning about and what she's learning, and then she goes off and, like, does her own thing. Like, because he's like, I need somebody that's okay with me being gone for two weeks and doesn't need me.

[Jordan Austin]

Interesting.

[Danny Austin]

So she's very independent is what. What I heard. But she's also willing to, like, sacrifice. He's like, it's very hard to find someone that's as smart and as, like, intelligent and driven as. As she is, but also willing to put her stuff to the side to follow him around. Essentially.

[Jordan Austin]

All I can think about is, like, when they have kids I know.

[Danny Austin]

I just feel like this like, whole marriage thing, like, to him, like, it might be a little eye opening after, like, I think that novelty is gonna wear off and you're gonna want someone that's willing to make sacrifices to put you.

[Jordan Austin]

Yes.

[Danny Austin]

In your relationship.

[Jordan Austin]

We're rooting for him.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

We passed on the investment, but yeah, I was like, I don't know.

[Danny Austin]

He did say that he. I related to him too, and he started talking about Feastables and he was like, he said that where he gets excited is when he gets to work on his company and grow his company. But he's like, the only thing is I have found joy in something that, like, I can be replaced at and no one can replace me on camera. And he was like, out of all the things that I like, it's like the one that I can be replaced for and like the camera work and filming, no one can take that. So he. He feels like he's stuck at Divi.

[Jordan Austin]

I never told you this, but at Divi, we had a couple people apply for, like, C level positions that actually came from Feastables. And I never talked to them, but I think someone on our team did. And they just talked about the way that he kind of built it was around Jimmy, Mr. Beast. And so it was even really hard for these, like, high powered executives to build the brand beyond him because the way they designed it. Whereas I think with Divi, we were very intentional. Very intentional about not building it to where you had another thing. Yeah, it's. Trust me, it's so much harder. Like, it's so much easier to do what he's doing.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, it would have been easier for me to launch everything or for me to be posting all the links, but. But like, yeah, we didn't want that.

[Jordan Austin]

But I can't imagine what he's going through because he talked a lot about, like, context switching. And I just remember, like 2022, it was like you had your. We had your thing over here and then we had Divi. And it was just so hard to come to you and be like, danny, you just filmed this video. You're exhausted. Now. Can you make a really important decision on this product? Do you like this formula? And you're like, ah, it's like maddening. It's maddening.

[Danny Austin]

But I kind of liked doing that. I feel like that's harder for you.

[Jordan Austin]

Context switching.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

No, baby, we get so upset all the time.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, I would. Okay.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Danny Austin]

Sorry. I was. Sorry all the time. I was just thinking about I had one example pop in my, my, mine when we were filming that YouTube video for Matt James and he was over with Rachel.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

And we were filming and we're like on camera at the same time. I'm like hosting them, I'm entertaining them. And then our old CEO Divi showed up to like approve some products and packaging components and stuff. And like, as I have these guests in my house, we're filming a YouTube video. Like we're were like saying lines I had to go over and like make all these big decisions for like our scalp serum.

[Jordan Austin]

Those are huge decisions too.

[Danny Austin]

I know. And I thought I hit him to like a champ.

[Jordan Austin]

And I was like, well, you almost made, I think you almost made the wrong decision. Do you remember? And then I was walking out and I was like, no, no, you can't do this. Like you can't change this bottle.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, you're right. You're right.

[Jordan Austin]

Anyway, anyway.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, so speaking of making America healthy again.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, so last thing I will say about this, did you hear that the food companies are now trying to get include ingredients that are getting around? Ozempic and GLP1s?

[Danny Austin]

Wait, what do you mean getting around?

[Jordan Austin]

So let me read you this headline because it'll help you understand. So I saved it on Twitter for you, cuz I knew it just make you angry.

[Danny Austin]

Oh.

[Jordan Austin]

The headline is OIC could crush the junk food industry. But the junk food industry is fighting back.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, I saw this.

[Jordan Austin]

As revolutionary new weight loss drugs turn consumers off ultra processed foods. The industry is on the hunt for new products. So basically this is from Jillian Michaels, health person. Yeah, Generally respected. It appears that the major food corporations are now attempting to engineer their products in ways that circumvent the effects of GLP1 receptors.

[Danny Austin]

Yes.

[Jordan Austin]

Effectively counteracting the appetite suppressing mechanisms of these widely used weight loss medications. So basically like it is crazy.

[Danny Austin]

Crazy.

[Jordan Austin]

But did you know that like when all, like when tobacco started getting more regulated, all of the tobacco companies ended up buying A lot of the food companies that we now like buy from. So they all have like a trace back to the addiction of like cigarettes and nicotine. And so it makes sense that they're basically trying to engineer around this whole thing. But if they pull it off, that's like, I'm kind of not even mad. I'm like, that's so maniacally genius.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, no, they, they definitely will too. But I've been listening to so much Gary Breca and I've been listening to all the seed oil talk. Which seed oils are in everything. But then the craziest thing is they're talking about how, how. Okay, so seed oils are the worst. But then they're talking about how avocado oil and olive oil are also not great for you because of the ratio of like linoleic acid. So like your omega 6 fatty acids to omega 3 fatty acids. Like your omega 6 and threes, it should be like a 1 to 1 ratio. But some of these oils are like a 20 to 1 ratio or a 30 to 1 ratio. So they're just really, really high in omega 6s. That's why we always take like omega 3 fish oil. And. But the only one that's like really good is. Or the only way to cook essentially that is like a good linoleic acid ratio is beef tallow. So then I'm like, do you have to buy beef tallow now to like, cook? And like, are. Are so these like siete, like food chips and all these like goldfish, are they supposed to be cooking in beef tallow sesh? Like, is that even possible? But the. What I'm really getting to is like all these processed foods with all these seed oils and whatever it is. Like, yes, avocado oil is better than seed oils. But like just, it's all bad. Like you should be eating whole foods and it really just.

[Jordan Austin]

Whole food.

[Danny Austin]

Whole foods, like, not processed.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

So then I was like, oh my gosh, do I need to start making like my own Cheetos and my own crackers? Like, I get how people start making sourdough bread. Yeah, like, I get it now. I didn't understand the craze before it. Now I understand, like, why people cook from scratch. Like, it's just, it's so bad. All the ingredients in our foods.

[Jordan Austin]

I also now understand why grandma go cooked with so much butter. She was just trying to do the right thing. She just knew this is hormone regulation.

[Danny Austin]

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[Jordan Austin]

That would be a brand pivot, let me tell you.

[Danny Austin]

I've thought about making my own crackers.

[Jordan Austin]

Huh?

[Danny Austin]

Like, because that's what I eat the most of. I would say like chips and crackers.

[Jordan Austin]

So at least she's honest. Like she's like, I'm so Maha.

[Danny Austin]

Like I just need like and then I'm just really hoping like the CTE chips now that they're bought out, I think. Who bought them? Like Walmart or something.

[Jordan Austin]

I thought it was like PepsiCo. No.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Was it Pepsi? I just hope that they don't mess up their, their ingredients. Those are still pretty clean.

[Jordan Austin]

We can always protest the seed oils. No, just outside of their offices. If they start changing.

[Danny Austin]

They're from Austin. They're. But. But they've sold.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

So we'll go to Pepsi coast offices.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, it's gated, but we can get in there.

[Danny Austin]

I've been reading also a lot about mental health. You know my book the Whole Brainchild.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

I'm reading so many books, like, it's a little overwhelming.

[Jordan Austin]

We're kind of like pretty studious these days.

[Danny Austin]

No. I also started reading a book about. It's called Vax Facts about vaccines. It's wild. We won't go there.

[Jordan Austin]

But yeah, bold.

[Danny Austin]

But if you're looking, if you're looking for a book about Vax Vacation Facts, like it's called Vax Facts. It's so good.

[Jordan Austin]

You know that book, you know about the author of that book, he got his medical license removed because he, he disagreed with some of the vaccine schedule. And what I didn't know that someone told me when they gave you that book was that if you oppose the vaccine schedule, you can actually have your medical license removed.

[Danny Austin]

Oh yeah. That's why so many. He talks about this in the book, but that's why so many doctors are silent when it comes to like he, like a lot of doctors, if you, if they kind of agree with you with the vaccine schedule, they can't tell you that. So a lot of them are just recommending this book and are like, I can't tell you. So just go read this and then you tell me what you want to do.

[Jordan Austin]

Which is so crazy. It's also why I was like kind of just trying to like chit chat with the pediatrician because, you know, we've delayed a couple. And I was like, hey, like, come on, you like all these? Yeah, you want all five of these? Come on. And she was like, like I can know. I knew she was like, wanted to talk. She wanted to talk. Yeah. And she, and she wouldn't. She'd be like, oh, you know, like, she was like, I mean, you know, do you do what you want?

[Danny Austin]

But like she could lose her right to practice. Like, think about all the money and time that she spent in medical school to get to where she's at. And then from one conversation it could all be taken away. That's why they don't Talk about it. It's scary.

[Jordan Austin]

Same reason we didn't talk about politics in 2020.

[Danny Austin]

But now, babe, we're not talking about politics. Stop it. No, I'm not confident.

[Jordan Austin]

No, I'm not talking about politics. I'm saying it's the same gag order that we were all under. Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. It's so crazy, though, because it's like. It's like medical advice that, like, your doctor should be able to talk about.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

And it's so messed up.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. And your followers are like, danny, it's just pura. Like, just tell us what politically you think and lose the pura deal.

[Danny Austin]

Anyway, so I've been reading this other book called the Whole Brain Child, and it's all about. I think I talked about this yesterday, but getting your. Yesterday, wow. Last episode. About getting your child horizontally integrated. Because. And I was thinking about this. So it's talking about, like, the left and right side of your brain. And your right side of your brain is more about, like, emotions and entertainment and feelings. Left side of your brain is more about logic and reason and. And language. And when you're a child, the right side dominates. Like, that's all you. You make every decision off of, like, emotion. There's not a lot of logic and reasoning that comes in until you're about 4, 4 or 5. And it was just talking about, for.

[Jordan Austin]

Me, 34 or 34. But I'm stunted. I'm learning.

[Danny Austin]

No, but it was talking about how the goal in parenting is to try to get your child to be horizontally integrated. So, like, when they're feeling all these emotions, you try. You have to kind of help them understand the left side, like, the logic and the language and the reasoning. And so you have to be heavy on that in parenting. But then I was thinking about it, and I was like, the way they're describing a child brain is like, our marriage. Like, you are so the left side of the brain, and I'm so the right side. Yes. Like, everything. And, like, you're so heavy in all of that, and I'm so heavy in the emotional, like, spontaneity, whatever. And we just need to find out a way to be horizontally integrated.

[Jordan Austin]

I know. We're so close. Like, guys, listen. We're working on ourselves so hard. What we said. What did we say this week? We were like, I'm just so. Like, we're so close to being in sync.

[Danny Austin]

I know.

[Jordan Austin]

We're so close.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. We're almost, like, integrated.

[Jordan Austin]

It's like we're both improving individually.

[Danny Austin]

Do this a heart oh, but I.

[Jordan Austin]

Don'T feel a heart yet. We're not in sync yet. Okay, that was a bad analogy. But what. What I would say is, like, Danny's amazing mom killing it, crushing it, working on her.

[Danny Austin]

I'm, like, actually crushing the game of mommy.

[Jordan Austin]

No, I. The reason you, like. My eyes welled up a second ago. Did you see that? No, it was, like, five seconds ago.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, no, I didn't.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, it's because every time I think about it, I almost cry. Because you're such a good mom. What? No, truly. Look, they're welling up right now.

[Danny Austin]

Stop. Tell me more. Why am I a great mom?

[Jordan Austin]

No, I mean, I. You just. You put your mind to it, like, this year, and you just, like, full on went and did it. Like, I mean, you just. You're, like, outside playing soccer with Stella, and I'm like, damn, it's great. No, I mean, they, like, love you, and. And I just. You sense it in our home. We've talked about this, like, every episode. We don't have to go down it, but it's like there's just a. There's an aspect of you that can't be replaced. No nanny can do it. Like, no. Like, I can't do it. There's just this, like, heart of the home you can't replace. But on a different topic, you know, do you want to tell them what you diagnosed me with this week?

[Danny Austin]

What was it? There's so many things I diagnosed you with.

[Jordan Austin]

Let's just talk about Dick mode. Oh, yeah, that's the one you diagnosed me with.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. He has this thing, it's called Dick mode, where he just becomes a dick for, like.

[Jordan Austin]

I've never heard this in an entirety of our marriage, and I was shocked by it. I. I think about it every single day.

[Danny Austin]

I was like, I tell them the Uber story.

[Jordan Austin]

No.

[Danny Austin]

Okay, sorry.

[Jordan Austin]

No.

[Danny Austin]

Okay, sorry.

[Jordan Austin]

Because that was hard because I was. I was in dick mode in the Uber because I was worried about you being canceled.

[Danny Austin]

Let's just tell the story, okay? We don't have to. I don't want to embarrass you.

[Jordan Austin]

No, it's okay.

[Danny Austin]

That's okay. I won't.

[Jordan Austin]

But, yeah.

[Danny Austin]

Anyway, my point is. Is. Okay, so there are times.

[Jordan Austin]

Don't you tell them what it was about?

[Danny Austin]

What?

[Jordan Austin]

They'll laugh. They know the story.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, the reality TV show?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, reality TV show.

[Danny Austin]

We can't tell the whole story. Okay, so this reality TV show that I said no to, they. They want me telling you. They just. They can't give it Up. So I told them no. And then Jenny, who's basically my manager, she got on a. She like emailed the. The agency and was like, yeah, Danny's like, the production company. Danny's out. She's not gonna be doing it. And then like a week later, Jenny called me and she's like, hey, just so you know, they're making it really difficult for you to back out. And I was like, well, what do you mean? Just tell them no, like, we. We signed the contract, but in the contract it said I could back out anytime. And she's like, no, like, they really want to talk to you. The CEO of the production company wants to get on the phone with Jordan and you, but mainly Jordan, and figure out if there's a way that we can like, make this work.

[Jordan Austin]

And I was like, no, get away from me, Satan.

[Danny Austin]

So. So then I was like, oh, my gosh, this is so funny, because we were just talking about how maybe if we were producers on the show, it would work out. Or we were talking about how maybe we would, like, want to actually produce our own show one day.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, what we said, to be clear, was we were in the car and I was like, I thought it was a genius move that you were like, I'm gonna ask to be a producer. Because I was like, oh, that's good control that you have. And then, and then the conversation, now.

[Danny Austin]

That'S something I could get behind. You literally said that sentence.

[Jordan Austin]

Probably so. Because I think we've always felt that we would be good reality TV show producers.

[Danny Austin]

Okay?

[Jordan Austin]

We would be a good mix of drama, but wholesome.

[Danny Austin]

See, I'm not making this ish up. Like you, you said stuff like this and you, you got excited about that when we were looking at that house in the car. So, so anyway, like, this conversation was on speakerphone, so Jordan, like heard it all. And so then I hung up the phone and I'm like, babe, they can't get enough of this, you know? And. And I'm like, would you get on the phone with them? And Jordan went in a full on dick mode and was like, just making all these days, like, oh, absolutely not. Like, oh my God. And I was like, oh, my God, what a douche. And so I walked away because I was just like, I'm not gonna deal with this right now. Like, so I went to my room and you were like, you followed me. And you're like, are you okay? And I was like, I just am fearful that we'll never be able to have a conversation whenever it goes Outside of what Jordan wants. Like, why can't we just listen, learn, have a conversation with this guy? See where the wind blows us? You never know what could come from it. And so then the conversation, our fight, like, went three or four layers deeper. It was like a whole thing. And Jordan's like, I feel like you have deeper resentment toward me. Like, I feel like there's something else. And I said, I want to tell you, but I'm scared to tell you. And he was like, I thought it.

[Jordan Austin]

Was going to be like, yeah, you know, this one time you hurt my feeling. You go, okay, yeah, I'll tell you. Yeah, you have a dick mode. And you went into dick mode. And to be clear, Danny's never said the D word in our entire marriage. So I'm shell shocked. And I'm like. It was like a curveball for me. I was like, what? And I was like. But I received it well. I go, wow, thank you for telling me that. I feel like this makes me really understand where you're coming from. And then. Yeah. I mean, the past, like, seven days since that happened, I've just been, like, really contemplating this dick mode thing.

[Danny Austin]

Because the reason I call it dick mode is because I don't think that you're a dick inherently. Is dick a bad word? I've never really used it before. It just sounds so dirty when I say it, though. It's okay. Just turn this off if your kids are around.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, turn it off. Six or seven dicks that we said.

[Danny Austin]

Should I just call it D mode?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, call it D mode for sake.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. I wonder if dick is a bad word. Such a gross word anyway.

[Jordan Austin]

Well. And that's why I'm so curious. Why did you use it at me?

[Danny Austin]

Because it just felt right. It just felt right. It really did. And so. Because it's kind of funny, too. But I don't feel like you're inherently a D. I feel like you go into D mode. Like that's a thing. So, like. And it's. It. It comes out ever so often. It's not all the time. So that's. That's a good part.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. I still feel very defensive about this reality TV show.

[Danny Austin]

Really? Here's the thing, though.

[Jordan Austin]

Say it.

[Danny Austin]

The thing is, is you gave me the trust and freedom to figure out my own process.

[Jordan Austin]

I know I did.

[Danny Austin]

So I think what's probably helped me.

[Jordan Austin]

I'm kidding. Okay.

[Danny Austin]

I think what's probably wise is for us not to talk about it anymore.

[Jordan Austin]

The reality TV show. I thought it was dead. I thought it Was dead when I left. Left on site.

[Danny Austin]

It was. But you were on the phone call when I. When Jenny called. You heard everything.

[Jordan Austin]

I know. That's why. Yeah. It's just hard because you're like, they want me. It's like, oh, it's so back. And I'm just like this. I'm like, yeah, I'll talk to the CEO. Like, leave us alone. I. I don't mean that. Sorry. You can talk to my wife and us.

[Danny Austin]

Anyway, they did say that I could still film the pilot and then make a decision afterwards and I could learn more from filming the pilot.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, this is breaking news. I didn't know this. Are you serious?

[Danny Austin]

Well, I have a call with. That's what my call at 2 is about. Wow. How does it make you feel?

[Jordan Austin]

Wow. This is like real life. Take. I feel scared.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, God. Okay.

[Jordan Austin]

I feel very fearful.

[Danny Austin]

Okay.

[Jordan Austin]

But I accept.

[Danny Austin]

You accept?

[Jordan Austin]

I accept. I accept that this is your decision.

[Danny Austin]

You accept or you trust me? Oh. Oh. There's hesitation. What? Do you not trust me with.

[Jordan Austin]

Hamster wheels? I think I do. I think I do.

[Danny Austin]

You think you do. I'm going to get curious here.

[Jordan Austin]

Okay.

[Danny Austin]

What have I done lately, recently that scares you that I might get back.

[Jordan Austin]

On the hamster wheel outside of this reality TV show? Nothing.

[Danny Austin]

What have I done with the reality show that makes you fearful of the hamster wheel?

[Jordan Austin]

I don't know how to explain it. It's just a look in your eye. I just know you want it. I think I know that you want it. And I know that when you want something, it's like me. Like it's. It's all or nothing. So you're doing the pilot for real?

[Danny Austin]

I haven't decided. I have a. I have a call at 2 today about it.

[Jordan Austin]

I wish I didn't know that I was going to go on a walk and just have a really pleasant time with myself. Now I'm just going to.

[Danny Austin]

That would be codependent if you didn't go on your walk.

[Jordan Austin]

No, I'm gonna go on my walk. I'm just gonna have to listen to some loud metal music.

[Danny Austin]

Or maybe praise and worship.

[Jordan Austin]

Or praise and worship.

[Danny Austin]

Either way.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. No, honestly, I feel. I genuinely. We had a breakthrough with me this week. I can't talk about it because it's like. It's too deep. But we had a breakthrough with me this week, and this all just. This all dates back to my childhood. We're fine.

[Danny Austin]

So do you feel like in. I'm. I'm asking this, like, because I'm genuinely curious. Like, do you feel like you're in a good place to make or to have opinions about this?

[Jordan Austin]

I guess probably. No. I would say I'm early. I would define myself as early recovery from codependency and a lot of my issues. So probably not.

[Danny Austin]

Okay, okay.

[Jordan Austin]

Do you think you're in a good place?

[Danny Austin]

100% okay. 110% okay. But that's just me.

[Jordan Austin]

That's okay. I mean, I really am not feeling that much stress on this reality TV show thing.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, wow. Okay, good.

[Jordan Austin]

My last note was, I want to share this meme that you sent me.

[Danny Austin]

Wait, before? Okay. Okay.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, this meme. That. And it's hard because you can't. It's a video, so I'm just going to read what it says. Danny sent me a meme after she called me. Yeah, this I'm gonna play after I.

[Danny Austin]

Called him a dick.

[Jordan Austin]

So it says you're an outrageous, temperamental, bad mannered female. But I realized I can't live without you. And it's a shameful confession to make. And you sent me that with the like, kind of like that emoji that's like.

[Danny Austin]

No, it was the emoji that was.

[Jordan Austin]

Like, oh, yeah, that was like the teeth. And it's like, sorry, like. And it's the truth. Like, it really is the truth. So go do your reality TV show. You bad mannered, ill tempered, outrageous, outrageous female. And it's okay. That's like I've sent, I sent that all. I sent that to, like, all my friends.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, you did?

[Jordan Austin]

And they all just died laughing. Because it's how we all feel. Yeah, we all feel it.

[Danny Austin]

Well, can we switch gears a little bit?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

I want to talk about a couple of my latest reels. Not that you've seen them.

[Jordan Austin]

Okay.

[Danny Austin]

So I've had a couple where I am. They're talking about pumping, like, relating to pumping.

[Jordan Austin]

Sure.

[Danny Austin]

And the comments are wild on these reels. Yes, it's. It's mainly women that haven't probably breastfed in like 20 years having opinions about my content. First of all, they are. A lot of them are like, why are you pumping? Like, why pump when you could breastfeed? But then a lot of them are like, this is so disrespectful to your body. Why are you showing this?

[Jordan Austin]

What?

[Danny Austin]

Like, it's too much to be sharing. Like, it's too. And I. And it's not like, okay, I will say I did show my nipples.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, I was gonna say you, you've. You've had to Have a nip slip.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. But, like, it's not, like, really, like, the whole thing. Like, it's like. It's like you can't really see what's going on. But anyway, you just see a little, like, pink. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, it's so. It's just wild to me because I know. Trust me. Like, I don't. It's not like I, like, want to be, like, showing off, like, my boobs or anything, but it's just, like, I am doing it so much. Like, you pump so much during the day that that's just what is happening. Like, you're feeding a child with, like, something that your body is making. And so it's very, like, natural, you know, like, in Europe, the woman just bust out the boob and start feeding.

[Jordan Austin]

Or that beach in Mexico.

[Danny Austin]

The beach in Mexico. This is true. But, like, it's just a way of life. And if you don't want to see it, then, like, don't look. But, like, it's. The thing is, is, like, women can't. Okay. So, like, you can't help it. Like, you. You have to pump or you have to feed every two, three hours because, like, your child needs to get the milk. For me, the reason I have been exclusively pumping, I do latch him sometimes throughout the day is because, um, I have. He's had a hard time latching, and I've gotten mastitis twice. And so the only way I can, like, keep my clogs, like, I mean, like, my ducts unclogged is by pumping every two or three hours. Like, my. My supply is, like, weird otherwise, and I get really, really bad pains and mastitis. And so that's why I'm exclusively pumping also. Because people can help you bottle feed the baby.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

So it's just as is. So trust me, I wish I could just breastfeed. Like, I actually think that'd be a lot easier than having this machine. I'm hooked up to 24 7. But, like, I also had to go to the Divi office for a day. Like, we had to go to Chicago for a day. Like, there's things being like, a founder and being, like, business owners that you kind of just have to do. Like, you can't just, like, not show up. And so pumping gives moms the opportunity to show up in other ways that sometimes they need to that maybe just help their mental health, too. And so. But so it's just crazy how many opinions people have about this thing when it's just, like, feeding a Child also, I just think it's like, what percentage?

[Jordan Austin]

Like 10%.

[Danny Austin]

Well, I think the reason why women are so bothered by it is because they probably don't see it a lot, but, like, in. But there's nothing wrong with it. And maybe people do need to see it more so that they're not ashamed about it or you're. You don't feel weird about it. So, like, that's why. Why I post about it, because I know I'm not doing anything wrong. You know, like, I don't feel a conviction that it's like, oh, Danny, you shouldn't be sharing that now. I'm not going to try to show my. My boobs and my nipples off. Like, that's not my goal here. I'm not trying to be like, one of those influencers, like, free the nip. Like, no, I'm just. I don't mind having. And you know, like, if I'm posting a video or something, I try to cover it up so that you're not seeing anything, like, inappropriate, but just the act of pumping, you know, people get so offended by it.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, I think this one's dumb. Yeah, I think it's dumb. I think it's like, really? Are you sure these are real people?

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

Really? So do they think you're, like, exploiting your breastfeeding for content, essentially?

[Danny Austin]

No. No, they're just like, why? This is tmi. They think it's like tmi. But I just have to say, when you are pumping or breastfeeding, it is so much work. It's, like, mentally exhausting too. It's also, like, very emotional. Like, I don't know what it is about it, but, like, maybe it like, releases hormones that, like, make you feel emotional. Like, even, like, I've thought about stopping and, like, it makes me want to cry when I think about stopping breastfeeding. Like, because I think that it's something that really connects you to your baby. And it's like you are doing something that is so, like, amazing for them. Like, whether. And I'm no whether you're formula feed. I formula fed Stratton from, like, week two. So, like, I'm not Stella. I breastfed for about three months. Stratton. I breast. I breasted him for. Breastfed him for, like, two weeks. So, you know, fed is best. Like, you go formula, more power to you, whatever it is. But I'm just saying, like, I think that there is scientific about, like, the hormones that are released while you breastfeed and, like, that connection that you have with your Baby. And it's, like, really special. And it's very. It's. It's like a way that you feel like you're providing for them. It's very natural. And so, yeah, to me, I feel like we should be, like, encouraging women in, like, helping them because it's also really hard. And so we should be encouraging them to, like, keep going and that they're killing it and they're doing, like, the best that they can. And I felt like sharing videos or pictures of me pumping was supporting that narrative, not hurting it.

[Jordan Austin]

You know, should we pull up who commented that and just read their names publicly?

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. Let's publicly shame the people that are trying to publicly shame you, and let's see how they feel about it, because how dare you to my wonderful goddess breastfeeding wife. You come after her, you come after her, you come after me, and I will shame you. And I will send it to your employer and I will get you fired.

[Danny Austin]

Too far. Too far.

[Jordan Austin]

And I will send it to your children so they know the mother that you are being to them. I kid. I kid. But I do think this one's real dumb.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

I'm being honest. I think you. You whip those things out.

[Danny Austin]

Thank you, babe.

[Jordan Austin]

Just cover the nips. Yeah, let's not be too crazy.

[Danny Austin]

No, no, I'm not trying to be like that. Yeah, like. No, I always try to cover because.

[Jordan Austin]

That'S a slippery slope to only fans, if you think about it. We can't let you go down that slippery slope.

[Danny Austin]

There's probably a huge demo market for breastfeeding moms in there.

[Jordan Austin]

Honestly, it's sickening, but probably so.

[Danny Austin]

That's gross.

[Jordan Austin]

I know. Just really gross.

[Danny Austin]

Topic number two things that make you go incentivizing your children's trust. Their trusts are incentive driven. So if the children obtain their master's degree, their doctorates and so forth, they will receive bonuses that are written into the trust. That is so interesting.

[Jordan Austin]

This is so not original. Like, all these old Dallas money. These. These families got these trusts so dialed, it's insane.

[Danny Austin]

Wait, you think that they. They all do this?

[Jordan Austin]

100%.

[Danny Austin]

What?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, 100%. They're based on. I think they're based on marriage. I think they're based on fidelity. I think they're based on so many things that you would never imagine.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, so interesting. What would you ever do? Incentive trust for our kids. I don't want to leave trust for my kids at all. I'm sorry.

[Jordan Austin]

I'm like, oops, I set those up.

[Danny Austin]

Well, I mean like, so like my parents gave me a little lump sum for like half a wedding.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

I wouldn't say that's a trust though.

[Jordan Austin]

No.

[Danny Austin]

So like, I would, I would probably. I want to save money for my kids weddings. That's about it. I don't really want to. I don't want them to ever feel like they have anything coming for them, honestly.

[Jordan Austin]

That's one school of thought. That's a big school of thought.

[Danny Austin]

I just want them to figure life out on their own. And I don't. I feel like it's a crutch.

[Jordan Austin]

I think that there's an age that probably it makes sense. Like, I think if you're gonna do a Trust, it's like 35, 40, because at that point they have to figure out their lives first, you know, and they're probably just enough established to where if they're at that point of having kids, like I'm going to be 35 by that time, I'll have what, three kids, four kids maybe. We'll see.

[Danny Austin]

Or did they just slack because they know they have it coming?

[Jordan Austin]

I don't think so. I think you just, you don't want to wait it out like that. And again, I think that there's probably like things that you can put into place. I don't know. But then you become really controlling, potentially codependent, you know?

[Danny Austin]

See, I just also don't want to have control over my kids life like that.

[Jordan Austin]

No, it's like I.

[Danny Austin]

It's like kind of creepy. Like it puts too much pressure on me.

[Jordan Austin]

Babe, you got to get into this like old Dallas money scene because like, I feel like I'm okay. I feel like I'm friends with like a lot of second and third generation, like old Dallas money. And the things that I hear are insane.

[Danny Austin]

I can't imagine.

[Jordan Austin]

And it's like a whole.

[Danny Austin]

So incestuous.

[Jordan Austin]

It's like a whole culture that they live by where they're like, oh yeah, like this guy who manages my family's family office. Like, yeah, he's really hard on me, but not hard on my brother. And it's like a whole world of dynamics and nuances that they have to deal with. And so the biggest I, I have this is not like a. I haven't studied this statistically, but I feel like for the most part there's kind of this like concept, if you come from like old money Dallas, of wanting to kind of get out of it, which actually means like literally severing off any needs you have from your parents. And going completely on your own.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

And the ones who do that are typically very respected within this, like, old money network because they're like, wow, like, good for you, man. Like, you did it. Isn't it crazy?

[Danny Austin]

It's such a first world problem.

[Jordan Austin]

No, it's a problem though.

[Danny Austin]

You have.

[Jordan Austin]

But these are all like, really good people. They're awesome people. It's just dynamics that are very niche dynamics that not many people know how to like, navigate or deal with.

[Danny Austin]

No, I understand. I think I'm just more so.

[Jordan Austin]

They can't talk about it because they sound like the world's smallest violin.

[Danny Austin]

No, true. So true. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. I also don't. I wouldn't want to set up incentives for my child with their trust because I don't know what they're going to need out of life. Like, maybe they shouldn't be getting their master's. Maybe they shouldn't even be going to college. Like, what if they want to go serve in Africa? Then they're not going to get like the right amount of money because they didn't get their masters in college.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

I don't know. It's tough.

[Jordan Austin]

It. I think it's. The more that I heal from codependency, the more it feels hella codependent and very controlling.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. To give your kid, like. Like, if I give you money and a trust, like, you better always be nice to me and invite me over to visit.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, also, isn't it just breeding grounds for resentment Your kids are going to have for to towards you. Like, your kids are going to be like, like, f you mom and dad. Like, I know best. And honestly, like, at a certain point in their age, we should be like, yeah, you know best. We trust you. We're here to consult.

[Danny Austin]

I know, but I think it's so much easier said than done, probably. So much easier said than done.

[Jordan Austin]

Probably.

[Danny Austin]

Like, as soon as I find out that like, my kid isn't like, enrolled for like, the right classes at college, like, you better believe I'm be riding up there being on their butts, being like, you better sign yourself up for that class. Like, I'm just gonna watch them, like, ruin their lives. Is that what that's what people are saying? Don't be codependent like that. Like, I'm just. It's gonna be hard.

[Jordan Austin]

It's like, stella, you are not getting an art history degree.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Like, yeah, yeah. She's like, mom, I want to go to Vernon Built in city.

[Jordan Austin]

She's like, mom, I want to be a art curator at the Met. And you're like, absolutely not, daughter.

[Danny Austin]

It's gonna be harder than.

[Jordan Austin]

She's gonna be like. She's gonna be. You're crushing my dreams. You never understood my dreams. And you're like, I'm a realist.

[Danny Austin]

And then you're like, okay, pay for your own degree at Vanderbilt.

[Jordan Austin]

Like, oh, yeah. And then she'll never talk to us.

[Danny Austin]

Yes. So there it goes.

[Jordan Austin]

That's fine. Anyway, we need to be good before that comes.

[Danny Austin]

I know.

[Jordan Austin]

We need. We gotta get.

[Danny Austin]

We gotta get in so hard. It's gonna be so hard. The last thing I want to say before you guys go, can you leave a comment of what should our outro be? We need, like, a saying that we say at the end of each episode. Like Gary Brucker always says. And like, always, it's just science. He says something like that. We need something like that.

[Jordan Austin]

We need an outro.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, like, just, like, you don't like the Irish.

[Jordan Austin]

Goodbye.

[Danny Austin]

Like, okay, bye.

[Jordan Austin]

Okay, bye. I always thought that would be funny if we did that.

[Danny Austin]

We should just end it right now.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. Don't even say bye.

[Danny Austin]

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