De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan
Episode: Christmas Party Drama, Jaclyn Hill, and Life Online Right Now
Date: December 11, 2025
Host/Guests: Dani & Jordan (Dear Media)
Main Theme & Purpose
This episode is a candid, humorous exploration of marriage dynamics (centered around a Christmas party meltdown), influencer culture, current internet controversies (from Jaclyn Hill to the “trad wife vs. girl boss” debate), with personal anecdotes on the challenges of modern life online and off. Dani and Jordan use their 12 years of influencer experience to “de-influence” mainstream narratives, delivering hot takes on relatability, online criticism, personal style struggles, and influencer authenticity.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Christmas Party Meltdown: True-To-Life Marriage & Event Stress
Segment: [00:15] - [21:00]
- The episode opens with Dani and Jordan recalling in detail a dramatic pre-party argument sparked by a formal Christmas event.
- Both hosts discuss the stress of dressing for formal events while pregnant, body image issues, and the emotional labor of “prepping” for social occasions.
- The “blame game” cycles throughout: Dani is frustrated that Jordan failed to prepare his outfit in advance, while Jordan feels unsupported as Dani didn’t steam his shirt.
- The story is relayed with humor, bickering, and plenty of marriage banter, exposing both perspectives.
Notable Quotes:
- Dani: “You know what else is stressful? When a party’s been on the calendar for three months and your husband doesn’t have anything to wear five minutes before he’s supposed to leave.” [01:42]
- Jordan: “I felt really unsupported tonight because I came back from Nashville with our two big children on a school tour…” [15:00]
- Dani: “You are upset with yourself because you had nothing to wear… And now it’s my fault because I’m not one of those wives that, like, places out your outfits every single day.” [13:05]
Marriage Micro-insights:
- The emotional “trump card” of personal feelings
- Apology styles—one “angry,” one “grace-filled” [19:13]
- Instagram vs. reality in couple photos
- The invisible work and assumptions of household labor
2. Body Image, Pregnancy, and Social Pressures
Segment: [03:26] - [04:46] and [27:27] - [29:17]
- Dani opens up about pregnancy-related body changes, and how even basic things like shoes don’t fit anymore.
- Both acknowledge the stress of not “feeling good” going into social events, particularly while pregnant.
- Jordan expresses his attempts (sometimes clumsy) to support Dani emotionally.
Notable Quotes:
- Dani: “It’s not really about even, like, body image. It’s like, pregnancy… Everything changes so much that your best assets become some of the things you’re most insecure about.” [28:43]
3. Alex Earl & Braxton Breakup / Pop Culture Commentary
Segment: [29:42] - [32:40]
- The hosts riff on the recent breakup of influencer Alex Earl and Braxton Berrios, noting their prior predictions.
- Light speculation about who Alex will date next, with a tongue-in-cheek take on celebrity power coupling.
Notable Quotes:
- Dani: “You better believe, like, you know, if your girlfriend… is on Dancing with the Stars, you’re gonna be there at every single show.” [31:00]
4. Jaclyn Hill, Relatability, and the Cycle of Influencer Hate
Segment: [32:44] - [47:19]
- Dani discusses Jaclyn Hill’s viral video about feeling disconnected from her followers and blamed “the algorithm.”
- Listeners (and Dani) push back: the real issue is whether she’s still relatable, not tech changes.
- Jordan brings in economic context—consumers’ struggles fueling frustration at “luxury haul” content.
- They agree influencer “seasons” of hate are part of the cycle; weathering them is about endurance.
- Dani defends Jaclyn Hill, noting her humble origins.
- Both hosts argue influencers should be sensitive to “the mood” of the broader population—but that online pylons are rarely fair targets.
Notable Quotes:
- Dani: “People are like, hey girl, like, I’ve been following you for years. But, like, it’s not the algorithm. Like, we just don’t relate to you anymore.” [33:24]
- Jordan: “Influencers should realize how bad the economy really is for most people and just be more sensitive to what they’re putting out…” [35:02]
- Dani: “If you’re going to make a video about Jaclyn Hill, you better be close to perfect because you’re going to be caught up in the same thing one day…” [41:24]
- Jordan: “You can say Jaclyn Hill is unrelatable in this economy, but Pete Davidson talked about…everyone loved me, and then out of nowhere, everyone just started hating me.” [38:48]
5. Influencer Authenticity: The “Ballerina Farm” Debate
Segment: [64:08] - [69:23]
- Dani discusses new internet drama around Ballerina Farm—critics claiming her “trad wife” routine is a performance (costume, outsourced homeschooling, managed farm, billionaire in-laws, not authentic).
- Both agree: it’s expected influencers outsource and curate. The backlash is often from misplaced expectations.
- The “relatability as strategy” and curated realities of influencer brands are dissected.
Notable Quotes:
- Dani: “We’re buying the brand, we’re not buying the product sometimes.” [68:07]
- Jordan: “It’s all about, like, relatability has become a strategy… I think the internet’s aware now. They’ve caught up.” [69:45]
6. Trad Wife vs. Girl Boss: Internet Identity Wars
Segment: [63:34] - [76:46]
- The hosts tackle viral discourse on “trad wives” (traditional homemaker) vs. “girl bosses.”
- Observation: online, both extremes are now pitted against each other—no room for nuance or hybrid approaches.
- Dani (humorously) rejects the pressure to fully commit to either camp, choosing a hybrid model.
- Noting that people (especially women) pressure each other to fit into one camp; men, by contrast, are depicted as less invested in the debate.
Notable Quotes:
- Dani: “I want to pick and choose parts of the trad wife era and then there’s elements of the girl boss, and I think that I want to be, like, an in between.” [72:45]
- Jordan: “It’s really women eating women in this whole conversation.” [76:09]
7. Life Online, the Algorithm, and Maintaining Sanity
Segment: [47:19] - [71:54]
- Discussion of constant algorithmic changes on social media; how content now reaches people who have no context for creators’ lives.
- The impossibility of “winning” online, whether you curate or are fully authentic.
- “Ignorance is bliss” is Jordan’s latest approach to online hate.
- The gap between digital narratives and real life is emphasized as vital for influencer mental health.
Notable Quotes:
- Jordan: “You have to just not care. You have to understand that the opinions online are totally separate from the real world opinions and be okay with that.” [71:14]
8. Lighthearted Close: Celeb Sightings, Parenting Anecdotes & Wish List Rants
Segment: [55:02] - [77:52]
- The hosts share stories about seeing Hugh Jackman, who “has little legs” (good-natured teasing), and debate which celebs would make them starstruck.
- Dani recounts taking her daughter Stella to the Nutcracker; Stella prefers to be a runner, not a ballerina.
- Dani shares wishes for modern conveniences (tampons in all public restrooms), poking fun at granularity of “women’s issues” missed by men.
- Jordan closes with: “Well, it’s going to take a special girl boss to make something like that happen.” [77:38]
Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)
- “All I do is shop for you. I don’t really shop for anything for myself anymore.”
—Dani [14:54] - “This sounds so silly… but if you’re in a marriage, this is like war. The battleground is, you didn’t steam my shirt, and I feel unloved.”
—Jordan [26:14] - “Instagram versus reality. I was not happy in that picture, and I want everyone to know that.”
—Jordan [12:56] - “The best part of this story was—we laid in bed… and Danny rolled over and she starts crying in bed… ‘I’ve been stressed out about my dress all week.’”
—Jordan [20:02] - “It’s just hard to find anything that, like, you just like, and just, like, fits.”
—Dani [04:03] - “People are mad at you for something that you… it’s like, A—they’re mad, but they blame it on you.”
—Dani [44:27]
Important Timestamps
- [00:15–21:00] Christmas party drama, argument breakdown, apology process
- [32:44–41:43] Jaclyn Hill controversy and online hate
- [64:08–69:23] Ballerina Farm authenticity debate
- [72:07–76:46] Trad wife vs. girl boss and nuanced identities
- [77:38–77:56] Humorous wrap-up on “girl bosses” and family meals
Tone & Style
Conversational, self-deprecating, and witty, with raw admissions and back-and-forth banter. The hosts oscillate between serious social commentary, pop culture takes, and playful spousal ribbing.
For New Listeners
This episode is packed with honest talk about the messy realities of modern marriage, influencer culture, and the pressure for women to “choose a lane,” punctuated by real-life stories that resonate whether you’re an influencer, a parent, or just navigating online dynamics. The Christmas party fight thread beautifully humanizes the influencer hosts, while broader discussions invite listeners to question what’s real—and what matters—online.