Cutting My Mom in Half & Other Normal Life Updates

Summary

De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan — "Cutting My Mom in Half & Other Normal Life Updates"

Podcast: De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan | Host: Dear Media
Episode Date: February 5, 2026

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Overview

In this candid and humor-filled episode, Dani and her husband Jordan share unfiltered updates on their lives, covering everything from pregnancy struggles, friendship dynamics, new business launches, to handling public pressure as influencers. The episode’s main theme revolves around setting boundaries online and in life, being authentic about personal capacities—especially as parents and creators—and finding humor and support in life’s chaos.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pregnancy Life & Friend Circles

• Dani shares a humbling and relatable anecdote about pregnancy insomnia (00:19) and the joys of finding community among fellow pregnant friends.
• The couple discusses how being around supportive friends “fills your cup” (05:08), particularly during pregnancy.
• Jordan jokes about innovative “third trimester hospitality” for pregnant women:
  • "There should be innovation...farms where we just put you guys all on a farm. Or an insane asylum." (03:26–03:42)
• Dani highlights the special bond and emotional support with friends in the same life stage (02:40–03:13).

2. Life Updates: Missing Delilah & Self-Confidence

• Dani talks about being invited to an exclusive Dallas club, Delilah, and ultimately choosing not to go due to pregnancy fatigue and comfort over FOMO (Fear of Missing Out).
• Jordan humorously narrates betting on whether Dani would make it out, with the odds diminishing after she ate an entire pizza:
  • “When you ate the whole pizza...the betting markets collapsed that Danny was not making it to Delilah that night.” (09:45–09:56)
• The dialogue explores Dani’s feelings about wanting to still “have it,” despite being pregnant and turning down nightlife for self-care (06:36–12:40).

3. Entrepreneur Life: Divi Hair Vitamin Launch

• Behind-the-scenes look at Dani’s latest business launch: a new hair vitamin with fewer pills.
• Dani conceived a marketing stunt—having a magician cut her (while pregnant) in half for a campaign, but due to obvious complications, her mom steps in instead.
  • "There’s only four guys in Dallas that will cut you in half. Three of them said ‘she’s pregnant, absolutely not.’" (21:41–21:46)
  • Ultimately, Dani’s mom spends three hours inside a magician’s box for the video (27:18–27:24).
• Dani appreciates her family’s “down-to-earth, no-coddling” approach, sharing how her dad was sent home in an Uber after cataract surgery so her mom could film (25:33–25:57).

4. Friendship Styles & Social Dynamics

• Dani and Jordan delve into their personalities regarding friendship—Dani is an “event girl” with a wide net, while Jordan prefers a tight circle.
• Dani reflects on how her style can come off as mixed signals, while Jordan notes the pressure felt by “one-dinner friends”:
  • “You cast a really wide net. Like, who wants to swim back to mommy?” (40:47–40:49)
• They discuss the differences between men’s and women’s friendships—Jordan thinks five close friends is ideal, while Dani points to her 32-person “baby drizzle” dinner (a non-shower celebration for soon-to-arrive babies) (35:51–42:42).

5. Parenting & Gaming

• The couple talks about managing kids' exposure to video games and balancing hobbies with parenting duties. Jordan reminisces about how video games, while fun, could sometimes get in the way (“You just spend so much time. Your room stinks.” 58:12–58:21).
• They consider how and when to introduce their children to gaming, with both nostalgia and caution (56:47–59:05).

6. Influencers & Public Pressure to Speak Out

• A significant portion addresses Dani’s response to public pressure requiring influencers to constantly comment on political or social issues.
• Dani shares her Instagram post verbatim, advocating for reflection, boundaries, and not giving in to performative activism:
  • “You are not a morally superior person because of the posts you share this week. You are allowed to take time to process and pray. Even after all that, you don’t have to say anything online if you don’t want to.” (61:14–61:28)
• She explains the emotional toll and perceived manipulation in online engagement:
  • “People do not want your opinion. They want affirmation that you agree with them. Or they want someone to target for the fear and anger they feel inside.” (61:28–61:39)
• Jordan chimes in on the performative nature and the pressure campaigns orchestrated online:
  • “If you’re stuck in this, like, right versus left, you’re kind of just wrong on all fronts because you’re being manipulated mostly by the media.” (78:04–78:15)
• The couple highlights the importance of authentic action over public displays for approval, with Dani emphasizing motherhood as her real ministry during global/social chaos.

7. Marriage, Mental Health & Routines

• Dani opens up candidly about checking in with her reproductive psychiatrist, managing expectations for postpartum (49:43–50:35), and negotiating paternity leave/accountabilities with Jordan.
• Jordan learns that for Dani, quality time during routine—and especially shared suffering—matters more than just tasks being handled (“I don’t mind suffering, but I want to suffer together.” 53:17–53:21).
• Light-hearted disagreements over routines, chaos, and the beauty of finding new hobbies or video games during transitions (51:44–54:15).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dani: “We just instantly start crying. It’s like we link up, like, in Bluetooth and we just, like, sink and we just are so emotional and we’re so big... we’re sisters.” (02:40–02:55)
• Jordan: “You cast a really wide net. Like, who wants to swim back to mommy?... I’ll eat the same thing every day, you know?” (40:47–41:21)
• Dani (on influencer pressure): “It is really sad what happens to a lot of people, all the time. But I don’t think that, like, posting something is going to make me morally superior than you, because you posted...” (66:09–66:30)
• Jordan (on community): “There’s so little time. We have four kids, so you don’t think. You have 32 friends?” (41:36–41:40)
• Dani (on social media outrage): “We’re both seeing extreme versions of each other... there is a way to see both sides and to be civil, but that’s boring and not going to get any clicks.” (75:40–76:26)
• Jordan (on media): “If you’re stuck in this, like, right versus left, you’re kind of just wrong on all fronts because you’re being manipulated mostly by the media.” (78:04–78:15)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Pregnancy & Friend Circle Stories: 00:19 – 05:08
• Delilah Invite & Fatigue/FOMO: 06:36 – 12:40
• Hair Vitamin Launch & “Cutting Mom in Half”: 18:37 – 28:38
• Friendship Styles & “One-and-Done Friends”: 35:44 – 42:42
• Parenting & Video Games: 56:47 – 59:05
• Influencer Pressure to Speak Out: 61:07 – 85:52
• Marriage, Routines, & Paternity Leave: 49:43 – 54:15

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Tone & Language

The episode is warm, playful, and unapologetically honest—anchored by Dani’s self-deprecating humor and Jordan’s analytical observations. The couple’s back-and-forth is laced with inside jokes, pop-culture references, and wisdom from the trenches of influencer life, marriage, and parenting.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode delivers a heartfelt dose of everyday life behind curated social media accounts. Dani and Jordan openly grapple with the realities of pregnancy, the joy and awkwardness of friendships, boundary-setting as public figures, and the challenge of retaining authenticity under the spotlight. If you’re seeking a podcast where real conversations about modern life, family, and online culture take precedence over perfection, this is a quintessential episode to jump into.

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Transcript

[A]

Foreign. The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite.

[B]

Podcast, D Influenced Matching.

[A]

We're matching today.

[B]

We always match.

[A]

Can I tell you something that was like very humbling this morning? Yeah, okay.

[B]

I was gonna try and guess, but.

[A]

Yeah, you won't guess. So this morning I, well, I didn't sleep great last night because, you know, we had a crazy change. We'll talk about that in a second. We went to a Steakhouse at 7pm so like that was wild. But you know, woke up or I, I, I set my alarm because I had a Bible study. I have Bible study usually like once or twice a month on Fridays and the Bible study wasn't till 9am but like getting the kids situated and like when you're pregnant and like making sure you get your cup of coffee in before you leave, like getting ready, it's, it's like a big thing. So I stressed all night about getting enough sleep. I Woke up at 5am and I was like, I can't go back to bed. So I ordered something that I do whenever I'm scared that I'm not gonna have enough sleep is I order Starbucks doordash. Like I just am like, I want to be prepared for when this happens. Like, because honestly I'll probably lay here for another hour. Jordan will still be asleep. So all at 6 I'll go get my, my coffee that was delivered. So I did that whole thing. I was like ready for my coffee and then I fell back asleep. Phenomenal. And unfortunately my aura ring died so it couldn't tell me like how much I fell back asleep. I think it was like maybe 20 minutes. I do think I snored during those 20 minutes. So hopefully I did hit, hit like the deep sleep. But anyway, I was like really stressed out about this Bible study. So anyway, I went, it was so cute. It was at this place called Ralph and Rose. Have you heard of it?

[B]

No.

[A]

It's a coffee shop, like kind of like, what am I saying? Like, they just like sell cute trinkets. It's also like a boutique connected to a garden where they also do gardening classes for kids. Wow, it is so cute. Like it's so la. I and I had no idea it existed. And like the coffee I got matcha was like pretty good.

[B]

Where's it at?

[A]

Off of 75. Like a little bit further north, but before 6:35.

[B]

Huh. Interesting.

[A]

Off of Royal. Yeah. Really cute. Highly recommend. Great place to probably take kids. So anyway, we got there and let me just tell you, two of my Friends are pregnant right now. Like, they're like, probably gonna, like, deliver in the next week. And do you know how good it feels to be around other pregnant women?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Like, we were all just, like, rolling around that place, like, waddling everywhere. Like, we're all crying. Like, we gave each other hugs and, like, we just instantly start crying. It's like we link up, like, in Bluetooth and we just, like, sink and we just are so emotional and we're so big and Tony and, like, we're all so swollen. I'm like, we're sisters and. But it's so funny. So the craziest part about it is two of them are going to, like, give birth this next week, and I'm like, five weeks behind them, and I'm, like, so much bigger than they are.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah, We. We took a picture of, like, our bellies, you know, like, we were like, all, like, holding each other's bellies, and I was like, oh, my God, I'm so big compared to y', all, and I still have, like, over a month left.

[B]

Yeah, we really should. There should be innovation and, like, hospitality for, like, third trimester females. Like, hotels geared or resorts or farms where we just put you guys all on a farm.

[A]

Or insane asylum.

[B]

Or insane asylum.

[A]

They're just like. That's where we just go.

[B]

No, I love when y' all get together, though, because then you realize you're not alone. You're going through it together.

[A]

No, it was so sweet. I was like, I'm never leaving Dallas. I love you guys so much. Like, I got back in the car, I was like, I have the best friends ever. They're so cute. They're so hot. They love Jesus. Like, they're like, just the best people.

[B]

Oh, that's so sweet.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I loved it. And I had to leave early, but then, you know, like, because I had to leave early for this podcast, which know, I would have. I would have pushed the podcast back, but I'm getting my hair makeup done for my. For my baby shower.

[B]

Well, you'll see them tonight.

[A]

Y' all see them tonight too. But, like, I was like, guys, I can only go from, like, 9 to 9:30, so I just want to come and, like, see you guys and, like, you know, just, like, catch up and maybe get some, like, prayer requests, whatever. And you know, I say you're like, pray for me. No, because, like, we're all going through, like, a lot.

[B]

No, for sure.

[A]

So it's like. But like, I say till 10. That's all I was Like, I know. I just. I felt bad. I feel. It's like 30 minutes is so hard. Like, you can't stop by anywhere for 30 minutes.

[B]

No.

[A]

What?

[B]

I don't even know what you were thinking.

[A]

No, I know. I. I said 30 minutes because I knew it was going to be 45, which really was gonna be an hour. So I told myself 30 because I told myself an hour. I would just would have stayed the whole time.

[B]

Yeah. Are they still there?

[A]

Probably.

[B]

Oh, man, I'm so bummed for you. I love when you get around your friends because you come back so happy.

[A]

I know. I love them.

[B]

You come back so filled up. Your cup is filled. You're like, I'm loved.

[A]

I know. But I think they're just like, so cool. Like, I love them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, and then I look at all those girls last night, like at Delilah, you know, in the sk, like, wearing all those, and I'm like, God, you guys are my people. Thank you for wearing clothes.

[B]

Oh. Oh, that. Your friends are your. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Because, like, I was like, really not really feeling myself flat. So I'll tell you what happened last night.

[B]

Well, I think we've told the story that you want. We've. We've talked about Delilah, this opening.

[A]

Well. But did you see who performed last night?

[B]

No. Who performed?

[A]

Machine Gun Kelly.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

At what time, though?

[A]

2:00Am Well, I don't know. Probably. I would say probably like 11 or 12.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We would have never made it.

[A]

So there's. We already talked about this. But there's like this new restaurant club that opened in Dallas called Delilah. It came from la, Vegas and Miami, and they always have all these celebrities performing. It's like one of those places you look on Instagram and you're like, oh, this is where our celebrities.

[B]

Hang on.

[A]

They're like, oh, my God, the girls are so hot, you know. And so they invited me to this, like, you know, quote unquote exclusive event. I was like, babe, we gotta go. This was like, probably three weeks ago.

[B]

They were like, hot girls only get Danny Austin on the list.

[A]

And I was like, yes, your girl. Your. Your main girl is here. Your leader is here. Present, present. And so. But I was like, it'll be a cute date night, you know, so we did do the steakhouse. We did have reservations at 7:30. We did call it like 5:30. Like, can we come in now?

[B]

I don't know. I feel like you're kind of glossing over the most important part of the story. This wasn't just like, oh, we Got invited to Delilah. This was very meaningful for you.

[A]

No, it wasn't, Danny.

[B]

It was.

[A]

Why? Because I was included.

[B]

Yeah, you needed to be included, and you needed to feel like I was down.

[A]

You always think that you know me when you don't. Okay?

[B]

Even Jenny said.

[A]

Well, y' all both don't know me.

[B]

Okay. All right.

[A]

The thing was, it wasn't really invited. I was like, I know I was gonna be invited.

[B]

I literally. It was so funny. Jenny, when you were filming this hair vitamin launch yesterday, Danny's on stage shooting a commercial, basically.

[A]

We'll tell you about that.

[B]

Jenny walks up to me and she's like, you think we're gonna make it to Delilah or you guys are gonna make it Delilah tonight? And I was like, no, shot. And she was like, yeah. She was like, I feel like Danny just, like, needed to know she's invited. I go, look at her up there, and you were so pregnant in, like, this leotard. And I go, gosh, give the girl a Delilah invite. She just needs to know she's still got it.

[A]

No, I. Let me think about it. Maybe subconsciously it is what it was.

[B]

You'll get there usually, like, two days later.

[A]

No, honestly, I really, like, I wasn't surprised I was invited. Is that bad? Not because I'm, like, a hot girl, but I feel like it's like a big Dallas thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, and they, like, I've lived in Dallas my whole life. I was like. I wasn't shocked.

[B]

My theory was like, you know, you're. You're in your third trimester.

[A]

It's not about being invited. It was about going like. It was about, like, being like, yeah. Are you Gen Z booty models? I know you got it, but your mama got it, too. She's on her fourth baby.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Watch out. That. Yes. So for sure. So it wasn't about being invited. It was about going.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah. And I didn't go.

[B]

Oh, I knew we wouldn't. I knew we wouldn't three weeks ago.

[A]

Okay. You guys are so annoying. I'm serious.

[B]

Okay, so. So now continue the story. Sorry.

[A]

Okay, so I actually was planning on going because I got my hair and makeup for. Done for a shoot that I was having that morning, which actually just worked out. I wasn't even planning that. And you know what I really think got me, though? I think it was that whole Campisi's pizza that I ate by myself at the shoot.

[B]

I saw that.

[A]

That one really set Me back. It was like I had so much energy and then I was like, full. And like, when you're full and pregnant, it's hard to want to go places.

[B]

If there was a betting market like on Poly Market going of like whether we made it to Delilah or not, you would see it going up as you got your hair and makeup done.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

Like, chances of yes. The bets would have gone up. When you put on that bedazzled leotard.

[A]

It was like, I'm heels. I'm like, I'm wearing this to the show.

[B]

He basically is in Delilah right now. So it's up then.

[A]

And then it's like 99%.

[B]

The betting market would have crashed, I think. Not even the first piece, not the second piece.

[A]

No. It was the whole pizza.

[B]

It was. You could have made it through half and the betting market would have started to tilt.

[A]

But I did seven to.

[B]

It was when you ate the whole pizza and you sat and you started spreading your legs that the betting markets collapsed that Danny was not making it to Delilah that night.

[A]

That is so true. I know, I know. And it's. It's just like, it's really hard to feel pregnant and full. That is just a recipe for a foot massage or a movie in bed.

[B]

Yeah. Which. So we audibled. We went to the steakhouse.

[A]

Yes. We had reservations at 7:30, which. This is a steakhouse in Dallas called Nuri that I was so excited about because, you know, it's also one of those cool places because, like, you know, like, I. I'm a homebody. I like to do like, I like, like, I would say like once a month, like, I. I gotta hit the town. Like, I need to know that we still got it. And like, not only don't want to hit the town, like, I want to go to like the coolest of the coolest places.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah. So I went to Nuri, which was like a cool girl place. I only know because I have a single friend. I asked her, I was like, the school. And she was like, it's so cool. And I was like, oh, my God, we're both so cool. Like, look at us out here. And the food was phenomenal. I have to say. It's like probably one of my favorite steakhouses I've ever been to. Japanese steakhouse, you know, all these people that you've never seen out on the town. I'm out there waddling with my bump out. I had a bodysuit on with like a blazer over it with boots. And so then we were like, okay, let's just like, see how we feel, you know? And meanwhile, Jordan's, like, Googling, like, foot joy. Foot massages.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, football.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, football. And so what really got me was I started looking at all the mentions on Instagram of the girls that were going, and I was like, yeah, I don't feel like talking to you. I don't feel like talking to some of these girls.

[B]

You. I think you literally said, I don't want to go to a place where I have to yell tonight.

[A]

Yeah, that. But I also was just like. And you know, I'm like a fairly confident person. Like, I know that. Like. Like, I can hang. Like, you know, I'm not. I'm not insecure when I'm, like, around, like, really pretty girls or everything, I'm like, that's great. Like, good for you. You know, I have a good personality. You're really pretty. Like, it's fine, you know, we'll get along here.

[B]

God doesn't give with both hands.

[A]

Yeah, God is. And I was like, honestly, it might be harder to be pretty.

[B]

You know, I think it's hard.

[A]

Maybe it's a blessing. I'm not, you know. Well, you know, I'm like, average. It's fine. We don't talk about it. Anyway, so. Anyway, so I was like, I just don't really feel like talking to you guys. All these really pretty people. It was just one of those nights. So. So. And they were all wearing, like, dress very sexy. And I was just like, I don't feel like hitting people with my bump and being like, excuse me. And like, having, like, guys be like, whoa. And like, I just don't. It's like I'm the. I'm like the point of pregnancy where, like, it draws attention, you know, it's not like, oh, she's cute. Like, she's pregnant. It's like, wow, like, everybody, please step aside. Like, she could fall and, like, it could be really dangerous. So I just didn't want to do it.

[B]

Yeah. And what's crazy about the night is we didn't even make it to the foot massage either.

[A]

And we did it. We were, like, leaving the restaurant. I was like, what do you think about a movie in bed?

[B]

Yeah. And so we were in bed by nine, which is the start of our reservation at Delilah.

[A]

Great. Great restaurant, though. Check out Nuri. Love it. Delilah will maybe make it in a couple years.

[B]

Yeah, we'll make it eventually.

[A]

Someday. But, yeah, Machine Gun Kelly performed, which is, like, pretty epic.

[B]

And you know what? You were invited, and that's what matters.

[A]

That's all that matters. I was supposed to be there.

[B]

You were supposed to be there. I kind of regret not going, if I'm being honest, which is shocking because I didn't really want to go.

[A]

No, I feel like you did kind of, though. I did.

[B]

At the end, I really was like.

[A]

You'Re like, people stop by.

[B]

I got those two Diet Cokes in me and I was like, you know what? I'm ready to roll.

[A]

Like, you know what? Let's just see what it said. And I was like, no.

[B]

And I also think it was like we would have probably like navigated our way through the crowd pretty. It's just funny. It's like, what's.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's like, what's this pregnant person doing here?

[A]

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[A]

Speaking of pregnant people doing things they shouldn't be doing, should we talk about what we did yesterday morning now that it's out?

[B]

Yesterday morning?

[A]

Like all day yesterday When I'm done. Leah, chart baby.

[B]

Like, oh, is it out?

[A]

It will be out when this episode airs.

[B]

Oh, yes, it is. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Time. Yes. We should talk about how. Yeah, I don't even know how to talk about. You talk about it.

[A]

So we launched our hair vitamin and I came out with a. I came up with this idea, right?

[B]

This is all you.

[A]

They. You know, sometimes I'm in this pregnancy fog era where I put the garlic salt in the fridge.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And I called me on our team like Jason the other day. Like, it was like, horrible. Like, I'm like people that I like, really know. Like, I like, can't remember their names. And like, it was really funny when I put the garlic salt in the fridge, though.

[B]

Yeah. For sure.

[A]

We died laughing.

[B]

Yeah. You're like, where's the garlic? You know, I was like, oh, did I put it in the fridge? Darn it.

[A]

And I like, over the fridge. It's like there. I like, didn't actually think I put it in the fridge, but I did. So. Yeah. So we, like, last minute because Divi has been very, let's see. Generous with me, where, you know, I've been pregnant the majority of the time that Divi's been around.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so the team that we've built is very sensitive to that because they never know where Danny's at. You know, it's like there's no stability with our founder. And it's like, where's she at? It's like, it's like moving and grooving and these poor people are just like, we don't know what to plan because we don't know where she's going to be at. And I'm like, yeah, sorry. This is what happens when you have so many children. So they did. So we never really planned, like a vitamin launch.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And it kind of got away from me because. Mainly because of this pregnancy. And so I was like, you know how I do? I'm like, nth hour vitamins about to launch. I'm like, we got to put something together. And I'm like, not only do we have to put it together, it's got to be in the next five days. So our biggest thing about our hair vitamin, which I'm so excited for you guys to try it out, but we've always had four pills. And now we have worked with our team, like our chemists, our product development team, and we've gotten it down to.

[B]

Two pills, which most people who take nutriful or like, I wish it wasn't four pills. And we were like, can we do it?

[A]

And we did it because people are so annoyed with that. And so we got it down to two pills and we're so excited. So my idea was like, four is or two is better than four. Like, cut it in half. And I was like, jordan, we need to have a, like a magician come cut me in half.

[B]

So it was kind of like one of your first ideas, too.

[A]

No, literally, like, we were spitballing ideas and I was like, magician, cut it in half.

[B]

And I was like, okay, let's put that on the board. And you were like, no.

[A]

And I was like, this is it.

[B]

This is it.

[A]

This is the one so called Jenny and my team. I'm like, this is what we got to do. And, you know, so we start reaching out to magicians in Dallas. So there's only four guys in Dallas that do this trick. Okay. There's only four guys in Dallas that will cut you in half. Three of them said she's pregnant. Absolutely not. One of them was our hope. And he Was like, he's like, we could maybe make this happen. Okay. And so we were like, you are like everything to us. Dal. His name was Dal. So, you know, I start measuring myself. I start trying to see exactly how small I can get into a ball with my bump. And, you know, it's just not looking great.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I'm like, really pregnant and. But this magician, he's like, pretty sure. So then the ice storms hit and, oh, I also call my stylist. I'm like, hey, like, listen. I'm like, think Taylor Swift, think showgirl pregnant, all bedazzled green. Like, I want to be a showgirl. Magician needs to look like a magician. And I want this guy to cut me in half. Like, you know, so she's on it, she's ordering stuff, she's going to vintage shops. But then, like I said, the snow, the ice storms hit and, like, it's really, really dangerous to drive in Dallas. Not only that, it's like, we can't work on anything because our kids are here. Like, we're just like, we're just with our babies all day long, just trying to get by. And so that kind of takes away, like, literally, like three days of our week of planning this shoot. Long story short, the packages from Amazon for the costume arrive, like on Tuesday, the shoots on Thursday. And, you know, we're like, last minute Dallas. Like, we take a measurement, we send a video. He's like, it's not going to work. We can't cut her in half. She's too pregnant. And I'm like, d, I already got the videographer. I got the production team, I got the studio, I got the theater. I'm like, d, you, like, you are a magician. Like, you need to work, make it work your magic. Okay? And so he shows us some other tricks that we could do that are very like, you know, it's kind of like you're being cut in half, but it's like, it's not the same. It's not the same. It's not the same. So we decide, you know, last minute, okay, you know what? I won't cut. We won't cut me in half. I'll cut my mother in half.

[B]

We were also like, There were. There was also a, you know, it's. It's pretty tense time on the Internet. And we were like, you know, surely people knows the magic trick, but will they there be a narrative of like, how dare she?

[A]

Oh, my God. I did not care about that at all. Like, obviously I'm not cutting myself in Half.

[B]

I don't know, man. Dinner is super weird.

[A]

What would the headline be? Like, Internet influencer pretends to cut her body baby in half.

[B]

I could see it.

[A]

To me that they're, like, tasteless, but to me, that's, like, bad, good press.

[B]

Yeah, probably because most people would be like, this is crazy.

[A]

Like, this is so stupid. Like, I like bad press when it doesn't have to do with your character. Like, it's like when you attack someone's character, that's actually a bad press. But if you're like, influencer pretends to cut herself in half while pregnant, I'm like, that's actually pretty cool, you know? Like, I'm like, I like that. Like, and so anyway, so yeah, we talked to Dal, and we decide, like, that's. That's what we're going to do. Tornado is totally on board, but the only issue is we're shooting on Thursday morning at 11. She's like, Mark is getting cataract surgery at 10am on Thursday. We can't move it. So she's like, I'll come, but I'll bring your dad after the surgery. I was like, this is so us. Like, I was like, great.

[B]

Like, he, like, walks in with, like, glasses on.

[A]

No, Like a. Like, a wrap around his eyes. Like a cane. Like, can't see. So anyway, last minute, she came, she.

[B]

Put him in an Uber. He was fine.

[A]

She put my dad in an Uber. But that's kind of like how our family is. Like, my family's, like, not like one of those, like, soft and, like, warm and, like, fuzzy families that's like, oh, my God, it's your birthday. Like, where do you want to go to dinner?

[B]

Like, they're like, stop being selfish. Like, you want to go to dinner.

[A]

They're like, your birthday is not about you. It's about everybody else that's celebrating you.

[B]

Okay, that's so true.

[A]

Like, it's like, we're not, like, really soft and fuzzy. So it's like, yeah, you got surgery. Get an Uber. They'll take you home. You'll be fine. You know, figure it out. So. So anyway, my mom comes and, yeah, it was. It was great. She is officially split in half. So, yeah, you'll have to go check her to go check her out. But no, we successfully filmed and created this illusion for marketing these hair vitamins, and I think it's going to be pretty epic. Epic. At this point in this podcast, we haven't seen the final footage.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I hope it all comes together.

[B]

It will. It always Does.

[A]

But if you guys are not or are, you know, wanting to try a new hair vitamin. And I promise you guys, the ingredients in this is. They're so amazing. Our product development person, I always say, I'm like, she came from Nutriful. She knows what's up. And so we basically taking, like, the best of, like, every single formula and putting it into two pills. And I'm very excited for you guys to try to try it out. We also did, like, a little giveaway. I don't know if that's still running. Time is kind of hard for me with this podcast.

[B]

Yeah, I know, because we're filming it.

[A]

Early, so, yeah, it was a good time.

[B]

The other thing is, like, there was no way you're fit in that box.

[A]

No, for sure.

[B]

No shot. I mean, your mom just barely.

[A]

Yeah, she barely fit.

[B]

She was a great sport. I mean, she laid there for three hours.

[A]

I know. It was, like, so sad because, like.

[B]

I forgot she was in there because.

[A]

Like, we would, like, be, like, off, like, on break, and she'd be like, am I allowed to get out yet? Like, and the guys that were filming didn't know that she was curled up like that. Did you know that?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah, so they didn't know that she was, like, in a really uncomfortable position for a lot of it.

[B]

Oh, such a bummer.

[A]

I was. Me and Nate were, like, pretty good.

[B]

About, like, taking care of her, giving her some straws of water.

[A]

Yeah. Like, little driplets. Like, just open your mouth.

[B]

She was so docile in there. Or was she talking?

[A]

That's the best way to have her. I, I, I'm telling you, it's like you lock her up in a box and you put her chained up. Like, that's the best way to experience tornado. I always say my favorite times handle my mom is when she's hungover because she is, like, so easygoing. Like, she has just the right amount of energy, but then she's also, like, kind of docile, and, like, you kind of just can, like, she's, like, so much more go with the flow.

[B]

It's so funny.

[A]

She just doesn't care. She's like, ID gaffs. And it's, like, so much more fun hanging out with an ID gaff tornado.

[B]

But y' all are the same person, and so is Stella.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's so funny.

[A]

I'm more ID gaff than my mom.

[B]

No. Yeah, for sure. But, like, Stella's like a little tornado, too. Like, when she's, when she's sick, I'm like, oh, my Gosh, you're so sweet and like cuddly.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's so funny, you know?

[A]

Yeah. Shoot. Mom was a great sport. Mornings in our house are a lot. There's backpacks, lost shoes, someone suddenly starving even though they just ate 10 minutes ago. And me trying to feel good about what I'm sending my kids out the door with. And honestly, that's where my brain goes first when everyone talks about the New Year's resolutions. Not myself, but my kids. Because the one thing that actually compounds over time is their health. And here's something I didn't really think about until recently. Our kids, the first generation growing up surrounded by ultra processed food. It's everywhere. So instead of trying to be perfect, I've been looking for better small changes that actually stick. That's actually why Haya exists. Haya graded a kid's vitamin that isn't basically candy. Some children's vitamins out there have up to 7 grams of sugar and artificial dyes, which is wild when you think about it. Haya went the complete opposite direction. Zero sugar, no gummy junk, just clean nutrition. And somehow kids still love them. The taste, the routine, the whole experience. What really stands out is how intentional the formula is. Haya worked with pediatricians and nutrition scientists to design a chewable vitamin that actually fills nutritional gaps kids have today. Each one packs 12 organic fruits and vegetables in 15 essential vitamins and minerals. Things like vitamin D, B12C, zinc and folate. The ingredient list is so thoughtful and every batch is third party tested for heavy metals and containers contaminants, which gives me so much peace of mind. You get the cute reusable bottle for your first order and then they send eco friendly refills every month. One less thing to remember at the store. My kids just love decorating the bottles with stickers. Also, if getting your kids to eat vegetables feels like an impossible daily battle, Haya's new kids Daily greens and Superfoods is a total game changer. It's basically chocolate milk stuffed with veggies. It's a green powder packed with 55 whole food source ingredients. Just mix one scoop with milk or any non dairy beverage and watch them actually enjoy it. We've worked out a special deal with Haya for their best selling children's vitamin. Receive 50% off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to hiyahealth.com dannyaustin this deal is not available on their regular website. Go to H I Y dash A H E A L T h dot com Danny Austin and Get your kids the full body nourishment they need to grow into healthy adults.

[B]

February is always interesting because January comes in hot with big goals and then February shows up like, okay, so how serious were you really? The planners are still around, but the energy is quieter. And honestly, this is usually the moment when people start backing away from the things they said they wanted to do. And most of the time it's not because the idea was bad. It's because starting felt easy on paper and harder in real life. Time gets tight, motivation dips. Suddenly the thing you were excited about in January starts feeling complicated or overwhelming. Or maybe it can wait another year. This is where I think people get stuck. They confuse friction with failure and building something, a store, a side hustle. A brand is always going to have friction. The difference is whether you have tools that actually help you move forward instead of giving up when it gets inconvenient. That's why Shopify matters so much in this phase. It's not just about launching, it's about continuing. Shopify makes the operational stuff easier so your idea doesn't die. When life gets busy, everything lives in one place. You don't need to be technical, you don't need a full team, and you don't need to figure out 10 platforms at once just to see if something works. What I like about Shopify is that it supports momentum. Whether you're adjusting products, checking orders from your phone, or slowly building something alongside real life, it works with you instead of against you. That's huge when February hits. And motivation alone isn't enough anymore. So if you're sitting with an idea you still can't stop thinking about, maybe this is a sign not to quit on it yet. You don't need perfect conditions. You just need a system that makes starting and continuing possible. Whether you're just wanting to test an idea out or you're getting serious about launching your own brand, it's never been easier to get started on shopify.com Danny Shopify makes selling so easy, you'll wonder how you ever lived without it. Alright, quick question for the parents listening. What's one money lesson you wish you learned earlier? I can think about this a lot as our kids start to get older. For all of the parents out there with teenagers, we know you're already trying a million different things under control. Cash App is here to help make sure your teens money and their spending isn't adding to that craziness. Cash App is designed to meet teens age 13 to 17 where they are with intuitive educational tools. Available through sponsorship by an eligible parent or guardian. Teens gain access to a personalized Cash App card that comes in different colors and patterns to fit their style and the ability to instantly access money from family and friends. Cash App makes managing money feel easier and honestly, just cooler than other options out there. The platform has tools that can help teens develop real world financial habits in a space that's safe and easy to navigate, all with your oversight and approval. If your teen is getting their first job, Cash App can get them access to their paychecks up to two days early and can help them achieve personalized savings goals they can set up themselves all within the app. With Cash App, these tools become something they'll actually want to use because they were designed with them in mind. Finally, no one wants unnecessary surprises. With Cash App there are no monthly fees, no minimum balance requirements, and no hidden charges when sending or receiving money. With the Cash App card, you and your teens balances receive 24. 7 fraud monitoring and if something ever feels off, you have the ability to lock their card right from your phone in just one tap. Skip the stress and give your teen a way to learn financial responsibility with no hidden fees. Download Cash App and get started today. For a limited time, new Cash App Customers can earn $10 if they use the code Family10 in their profile at signup and send $5 to a friend within 14 days. Terms apply. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partners. Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton bank member FDA IC direct deposit and promotions provided by Cash App a Block Inc. Brand. Visit Cash App Legal podcast for full disclosures.

[A]

Tonight I have my my dinner.

[B]

My baby dinner baby shower.

[A]

It's not a baby shower.

[B]

Why. Why would you call it that? Because it's not what we're celebrating. Oh, a baby shower means the babies are already born.

[A]

Well, technically, if you really want to know baby showers, like for your first baby, you like, shower the baby with like so many gifts and so much love. So then it's like you've been showered. So then it's like, oh, you already had your baby shower, so now you have a baby sprinkle. So we just sprinkle you with love. We don't shower you, we just like, just make it. I. I'm actually making this up as I go.

[B]

Oh no, it makes sense.

[A]

Yeah. Now that I think about it, like, it kind of does. And so I've already had a baby shower in two sprinkles.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, I like I'm just. Right now, maybe I'm just looking for a little drizzle. So we should have called it a drizzle dinner.

[B]

A baby drizzle.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm really not looking for, like, I don't need. I don't have a registry. I don't need anything. I don't like, you know, most people.

[B]

At this point are also, like. Again, Danny.

[A]

No, I feel that. Like, I feel that, like. Like, I don't want to annoy people with, like. I don't need, like, another event where I'm wearing, like, pink and blue and, like, you know, like, everything's, like, frilly and fry. I don't really want that. I. What I really wanted was, like, moms hit the town.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You did Drake's.

[A]

Yeah. So private room. I rented a private room at Drake's. And all the moms are like, what are we wearing? I'm like, your sexiest outfit you got. I was like, this is about being mom.

[B]

Like, I missed Delilah last night. I'm ready to go.

[A]

That was a big reason why I also skipped Delilah. I was like, my night is tomorrow night, you know, with my girls. So, like, this is going to be, like, the most lit baby drizzle you've ever seen.

[B]

Is there music?

[A]

It's not. It's not. It's like a private dinner.

[B]

But here's the thing. Is 42 people.

[A]

32.

[B]

32. Are you sure you said 42 last night?

[A]

Yeah, the numbers were off.

[B]

Oh, 32 is still a lot.

[A]

I know. I'm surprised I have that many friends.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And I had more that I couldn't fight. We didn't fit. I know the venue, like, fit 30. And I was like, we're squeezing two in.

[B]

Wow. Yeah. I didn't. I need to stop being so social.

[A]

Yeah. Or just being so awesome.

[B]

You know? You know who the funniest friends that we have are? Is the friends that will go to one dinner with them.

[A]

And then we're like, best friends.

[B]

No.

[A]

And we never.

[B]

We never see them.

[A]

We have a lot of people like that.

[B]

You. You do that to a lot of people. You also give your phone number to a lot of people that you, like, meet at the mall.

[A]

Here's my thing.

[B]

And then they're like, oh, my gosh. Like, I'm about to start a new friendship. And I'm like. In my mind, I'm like, you will never hear from her again.

[A]

But here's actually not. That's actually not true. Because actually, that is true. Like, I'LL never reach out to you again. It's not because I don't like you. Like, I reach out to you because I want to be friends, but to me, it's in the balls in your court. So, like, if you want to make it happen, you can make it happen. But, like, I'm not going to ask you to.

[B]

We actually had one of those friends that we did something with, and they came up to us at a party and they go, hey. Yeah, yeah. She goes, hey, do you remember how, like, we went to a WNBA game together and then we never talked again?

[A]

We had, like, the best night of our lives.

[B]

And it's just so.

[A]

I was like, brenna, it's not like it. Like, I loved you guys. I invited you, but, like, now, like, you got to make the. The next.

[B]

The next move.

[A]

The next move. I'm very weird about stuff like that. Not because I, like, care. It's just like, I like. It's not like it's like a etiquette thing or like. Like, I'm just like, I don't want to annoy you. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like a weird, like, insecure. I get insecure with people. But see, I can't invite you twice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, what if they didn't like us that first time and then we invite them again?

[B]

We just have. Totally. But don't you think that they could be perceiving it as, like, mixed signals, know for sure? No. Okay. I'm just glad that you're saying for sure, because there's several couples that I feel like we've gone to one dinner with, and I'm like, they probably think that we didn't like them, but it is not like that at all.

[A]

The hard thing about me, too, is, like, I'm not really, like, a hangout girl. Like, I'm like an event girl. Like, not event girl, but, like, you know, Friday, we'll go see each other. Or, like, it's not like, if you're.

[B]

There, you're fully there, but when you're not there, gone, gone.

[A]

So I really.

[B]

Out of sight, out of mind type of girly.

[A]

The only person that I, like, call consistently is probably, like, Ellie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, she's like someone that I would just call right now and, like, talk to. But I don't really feel comfortable doing that with, like, a lot of people. And it has nothing to do with them. It's just. It's my own insecurity. I think I'm insecure that I'm bothering them.

[B]

Interesting. I Would have never guessed that.

[A]

Yeah. Like, if I'm like, hey, what you doing? And they're like, this girl that's kind of what I picture on the other line is like, they're like, danny's calling me.

[B]

But what if they're actually saying, like, why doesn't Danny.

[A]

Well, then why don't you call me? The more you call me, then I'll call you more, too.

[B]

Yeah, your phone's gonna start blowing up.

[A]

No, it's great. I love it.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, you know, there was another couple we went to Casa Brasa with.

[A]

I love them. I DM her all the time.

[B]

Oh, you do?

[A]

Yeah. We need to figure something out. It's also like a hard.

[B]

We just. It's almost like a system problem because, like, I feel like we just have different styles. Like, I would never. Like, if I start a new friendship, I'm, like, going to go all in. Like, I'm going to do it.

[A]

Oh. See, I kind of cast a wide net.

[B]

You cast a really wide net.

[A]

Like, who wants to swim back to mommy? You know, I'll just throw the fish food out and be like, I gave you a chance. Like, who wants this?

[B]

It makes it really difficult. Like, I always genuinely love hanging out with these new husbands that you introduced me to, but in the back of my mind, I'm like, I'm never going to see you again.

[A]

Well, why don't you get their number and plan something?

[B]

Because it's like, you know, I don't cast a wide net. I've got, like, I've got my little small.

[A]

I helped you. I basically gave you the baby.

[B]

But I don't want a lot of friends.

[A]

So you don't like the fish? Well, then that's your.

[B]

I don't want a lot of fish. I just want. I'll eat the same thing every day, you know, saying. Because I just think it's like, you know, for me, my. My sort of perspective on friendships is like, there's so little time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, we have four kids, so you don't think.

[A]

You have 32 friends?

[B]

No, babe, I could not fill a room with 32 people. I mean, I would have to go real far into that acquaintance bucket.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. You know, no, these are, like, 32 people that I like. Actually, really like.

[B]

No, I remember I was like, what buckets did you pull from?

[A]

No, these are just my friends. I actually had to leave out some people. It was hard.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

Hard.

[B]

I don't know. See, then. But when you have a baby, drizzle with 32 people, it makes me wonder, like, am I doing. Am I doing life wrong? I don't know. I think I have a lot of, like, really good.

[A]

My thing is, I think you need five good friends in life.

[B]

I think I have five people I could call.

[A]

Yeah. I think five to seven is, like, the number, and then everybody else is just, like, a bonus.

[B]

Yeah. I also. I wonder if it's different for girls and guys. Like, I feel like if I was like. To most dads, I was like, man, doesn't it feel like sometimes our friendships are just, like, checking in on the group chat every once in a while? I think most men that are dads would be like, yeah, totally.

[A]

Yeah. It's. You gotta have that person in the group chat that's, like, gonna take it off line. It's like that one leader that's like, all right, guys, like, let's get together on Friday.

[B]

Like, But I still think that the dads that. I think it's rare for a dad for the dads to be like, yeah, like, let's try and do this this weekend. This. This weekend. It's like, once every four months.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know how healthy, but it feels like yesterday. I don't know. I don't know how healthy it is either. I feel like the church is heralding this idea of community.

[A]

Church on this.

[B]

No, I'm not blaming the church. I'm just saying the church is heralding this idea of community. And I'm like, like, okay, what does that need to look like when you have four young children? I don't know, but you're making me feel guilty. Like I'm not in community, and I'm, like, kind of happy.

[A]

Yeah, I didn't.

[B]

No, no, I'm not. I'm talking to the church. I'm talking to God, or. I don't know, Not God, the church. The evangelical body.

[A]

Okay. You know, Sounds like you have some church hurt.

[B]

No, no, I don't have church hurt. I'm just genuinely, like, most of the guys that are like, yeah, like, you got to live in community. They're not married or just newly married, and they don't have kids. And I don't feel like there's been a good precedent set out there by the church of, like, what community in fatherhood looks like.

[A]

Well, I don't. I don't know the answer to that, but I do know from. We have a group called Kingdom Mamas.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And there's, like, seven of us, and.

[B]

We have Kingdom Papas for the Husband.

[A]

Good for you. And I just know, for us, like, the only way we get together is if it's in the morning. Like, we had to do, like, Friday morning at 9.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it was like, everybody dropped their kids off at school, and then we went to, like, a coffee shop, and we were going to stay there till 11, but I was like, guys, Friday is a podcast, so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But, yeah, and we usually try to meet, like, twice a month. It's not like, every Friday. That's really hard. And then we always, like, keep the group chat going.

[B]

The wellness wheel is hard, is what I'm saying. You got. You got your faith, you got your workouts, you got your family, got kids, got your wife, you got your. Your friends. And I'm not going to lie. Friends, they fall in my priorities.

[A]

My thing is, is, like.

[B]

But here's the craziest thing.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

The people that live the longest have the best friendships.

[A]

Oh. See, I always thought it was about flossing.

[B]

They always said, if you floss, it's friendships. It's the quality of your relationships is directly correlated with the longevity of her life.

[A]

I'd like to see the data points on this. Like, what studies are we talking about?

[B]

They do it in the blue zones where people live past 100.

[A]

Okay, I see it. I mean, it can't hurt.

[B]

It can't hurt.

[A]

Can't hurt out some friends.

[B]

But I've been pretty vocal about this. I don't want to live, Pat. Like, I'm not dying to live to, like, 120.

[A]

Well, no, but please don't leave me.

[B]

No, no. I'll try and outlast you.

[A]

I think you probably will. I have a feeling I'll try and.

[B]

Outlast you for sure. But, yeah, I mean, I'll probably die of sadness shortly after.

[A]

Should you tell them what happened the other night?

[B]

Yeah. Danny was mad at me again.

[A]

And mad because she.

[B]

Because, like, she, like, literally every night I go to sleep to your back on your phone, and then, like, I'm on my phone in bed, and you're like, why aren't you. I don't understand. Why aren't you talking to me? Why do you hate not.

[A]

What happened? We were watching a show, and it was like a war movie, and I was like, what's happening?

[B]

And, oh, that's so true.

[A]

When I ask him, I'm like, wait, what just happened?

[B]

Like, okay, we're watching.

[A]

Are they invading France? Or, like, where is France in relation to Britain?

[B]

No, that's not what you're asking. We're Watching a movie for the first time together. Let's just say.

[A]

Is it Argo?

[B]

No, it was Dunkirk.

[A]

Dunkirk. We've watched it together, but, yeah.

[B]

And this guy's flying a plane fighting the Germans. And she's like, jordan, what's gonna happen? Jordan? Like, he ran out of gas. So I was like, where's he gonna land? Is he gonna land on the beach? And I'm just ignoring her because I'm like, I'll give her 10 seconds and she'll figure it out. And then you're like, why do you hate me? Why are you not listening to me? And I go. I literally, like, kind of chirped back. And I was like, I don't know either. I'm like, I don't have your answers.

[A]

You ignored me all day. And, like, I was like, I've asked you questions. And, like, you don't. You act like I. Like I don't exist. Like, I'm, like, speaking into the dark void.

[B]

And then, well, most of it's like, where's the garlic salt? And I'm like, I don't know. You probably put it in the refrigerator. Like, so anyway, this guy's flying, and then the scene changes, and it's when Harry Styles and that other character climb into this abandoned boat. And then five seconds later, the boat.

[A]

Was named, like, moonshine or something, like, really cool.

[B]

And then she goes, if there was a boat, what would you name it? And I go, danny Girl. And then she started crying and said, that's the sweetest thing. I was like.

[A]

I was like, that's so sweet. I love you so much. I was like. And Jordan's like, you hated me five seconds ago.

[B]

Oh, I've just been riding the waves. That was funny, though. I really would name the boat Danny Girl.

[A]

It's such a cute name.

[B]

It's a great name.

[A]

Danny Girl.

[B]

Danny Girl.

[A]

Like, really. It's so cute. It's just like, my name is okay. But when you put girl behind it, Danny Girl. I was like, oh, my gosh.

[B]

I love him.

[A]

I love him. Oh, man.

[B]

But we've been doing good. We've been good.

[A]

Yeah, we've been doing great.

[B]

She. You. You did lay out some pretty strict requirements for.

[A]

Well, I talked to my reproductive psychiatrist, and so I talked to her, like, every three months just to check in, and I actually found.

[B]

Yep. You're depressed.

[A]

No, no, I actually found her because I have. I usually have the worst postpartums. So after my second, I, like, got on her wait list. Takes, like, eight months. Whatever. Finally got on there. Had the. Had summit. And I was just like, I would. Whenever you, like, are paired with these people, these doctors. Sorry, I don't know what I'm saying. You start seeing them three weeks postpartum, and then you check in with them, like, every week, and you just do, like, a zoom call. She's based out of Austin, and I had, like, such a good postpartum that every time she. We check in, I'm like. I'd be like, I promise this isn't normal. Like, usually I'm so depressed right now, but I'm, like, so happy. Like, and she'd be like, okay. And I'm like, I'm not trying to waste your time, I promise. But. But usually this is what. This is where I'm at. And. And I'm like, but I'm actually really happy and everything.

[B]

This is the summit.

[A]

Yeah. Like, so I, like, every time postpartum I ever checked in with her, like, everything was great. But then when I got pregnant, then, like, four months later, you know, I got, like, I show up, and I'm like, I'm pregnant again, and I'm depressed, and I'm depressed. So then we upped, like, one of my medications, and it, like, helped everything. And then, so, yeah, we're kind of, like, getting into, like, that phase again where it's like, we're. We're, like, bracing for impact. And she was, like, giving me some advice of, like, how to, like, get ready for postpartum that I kind of just, like, forgot about. And she was like, have you made a plan with your husband? Like, what is his paternity? Like, paternity. Paternity take. What do you call it?

[B]

Fraternity leave?

[A]

Paternity leave going to look like. Like, what are the roles around the house going to look like? And I was like, I don't know. Good question.

[B]

You're like, I don't know. I'm just going to get mad at him until he meets my expectations that I don't tell him.

[A]

Yeah. So then I, like, really thought it out with her, and then I told Jordan kind of like, not what the expectations were, but, like, you know, the topics we need to cover.

[B]

Yeah. Which was. I told, first of all, having a paternity leave.

[A]

Yeah. Because Jordan's kind of, like, in this, like. Like, working mode, so you always are. I don't know what I'm saying. Like, but he's, like, working, like, a lot. Like. Like, work.

[B]

Ew.

[A]

And so I could see how, like, he. Because Jordan's very, like, he'll find A rhythm, and he'll just, like, stick to it. Even though. Even though, like, the ice storm is going on and life is chaos. He's like, I'm going to the gym. I'm like, babe, the roads are shut down. He's like, I'm going to the gym because that's what I do. And I'm like, you can't go because you could get hit by a truck. It's not safe. He's like, I'll see you later.

[B]

Danny's like, it's daylight savings. How interesting is this? It's dark and sick.

[A]

I love it. I love the chaos. So.

[B]

So he's just kind of literally, at the ice storm. You were like, this is gonna be so fun. I wonder what's gonna happen. Yeah, it's so different.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't. Yeah, I don't. Routine is great, but it kind of gets old. So anyway, so what was I talking about?

[B]

You were saying that I don't ever change.

[A]

So even, like, a. Like a baby could enter our lives, and Jordan would still be like, I'm gonna eat steak and eggs and then go to the gym. And I'm gonna be like, that's true. It's true. And it's just like. And it's not. He's not trying to be selfish. He's just like, I'm doing what I'm gonna do because that's what I always do. And for me, I'm like, yeah, you can't really do that anymore. Like, yeah, you can't. Like, and he'll like. And he'll be set up processes and systems to make it, like, where it's not, like, taking away, like, hurting me, but, like, I think what hurts me is when it's, like, not him doing it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So he'll be like, I'll call my mom and she'll make breakfast and, like, watch over you while I go to the gym. So you're taking care of it? I'm like, no, what I wanted was for you to make me breakfast.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so, like, I wanted us to be a family. I don't to want. Want, like, outside help. But he was just like. He's just very logical. He's like, well, if I can't be there to do, then I'll find somebody else to do. And then I'm like, no, but the whole point was for us to do together.

[B]

Yes. That's. That was a big epiphany moment for me, because I never understood. I was like, I'm not being selfish. Like, I. I'm trying to do what I feel like I need to do and then make sure that you and everyone else is taken care of in the process, too. But it never really works.

[A]

I don't mind suffering, but I want to suffer together, you know, this is stronger.

[B]

Yeah. You. The thing of. The thing that I've learned most probably, in our marriage is that it. It's not about what needs to get done. It's about doing it together for you. Because that's the. That's. That's the quality time.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So the most sacrificial thing that I can do is not work through a paternity leave. It's to take a paternity leave. So. Yeah, I mean, I understand. Fraternity leave.

[A]

Yeah. So we just. I'm glad we talked about that.

[B]

But I. We. We did agree. Like, I could, like, because, you know, part of why I stick to a routine is I go a little crazy if I'm bored. It's not good for me to be bored. So I'm gonna pick up some hobbies. I might watch Homeland again.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

It's got eight seasons. I could probably power through that.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, you can still work out. Like, we have a gym in our garage.

[B]

No, for sure I'll still work out.

[A]

But, like, I'll.

[B]

I'll go on walks. Like, I'll, you know, listen to. I gotta continue my early Christian history. I'm a little bit behind, so I'll catch up on that. So. Yeah, I mean, I might. I might download a new video game.

[A]

Babe, you know, I love when you play video games.

[B]

You really do.

[A]

I love.

[B]

It's the weirdest thing.

[A]

No, I'm like. Please. Like, sometimes I'm like, can you go play a video game?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's just, like, I. I like for Jordan to enjoy himself, because he's not. He's not one of those people that, like, obsesses over video games. Like, he'll play, like, for two days every five months.

[B]

I'll go on, like, spurts, like, two or three weeks, and then I'll. And I'll draw.

[A]

You never have played a video game two or three weeks. No. You haven't.

[B]

Yeah, I did. During our private equity deal. Because I was going crazy.

[A]

Yeah, whatever. I didn't care about that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, you get that money, baby. You go play that video game.

[B]

Well, I just, like, I. It was a tense negotiation. I had to blow off some steam. It was really.

[A]

Yeah, I. I think because I had.

[B]

A different life, I was probably a twitch Streamer. I'm not gonna lie. I'm very good.

[A]

No, like, I'd. So, like, something about me was like, I'm kind of cool because, like, I grew up with a brother that, like, was a gamer. Pretty much, yeah. And I always thought it was cool. Like, I never thought it was, like, a weird, like, lazy thing, but maybe because I've never had somebody that's, like, waste their life on it, like, prioritizes that. Yeah, life.

[B]

I. Per capita. It's probably not a great thing for men over 16. Yeah, 18.

[A]

But for me, like, when you playing a video game, I don't really like the ones that you played, but if you're playing Mario, I can watch.

[B]

The problem is that, like, we're not talking, like, Mario Kart anymore. We're talking, like, they optimize these games to keep you engaged for hours.

[A]

Well, you.

[B]

You could play four hours and be like, that felt like 20 minutes.

[A]

That's crazy because, like, I know my brother used to play World of Warcraft.

[B]

That was. Yeah, that's no good. That's a bad one.

[A]

Oh, is it?

[B]

Babies died from neglect in China because their parents neglected them to World of Warcraft.

[A]

See, but that one, I could never watch it, like, wasn't entertaining. So I liked when it was like, N64 days with like, Like, Zelda, Super Mario or even, like, just Sega days with, like, Mortal Kombat. Like, those are the games that I would just sit there for, like, hours and, like, watch my brother, like, play it. I thought it was so fun.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, the social component that's like, you're playing with your friends that you, like, never see. Like, oh, it's so fun.

[A]

What do you think? Like, the. What do you think about, like, kids in gaming? Like, when do. It's like, we always talk about social media, but, like, what do we. What do we think about gaming with kids? Like, when do our kids start playing video games?

[B]

Like, probably like six or seven.

[A]

What? Are you serious?

[B]

Probably. No, no. Except seven or eight.

[A]

Well, now they play blocks or something. What's it called?

[B]

Roblox.

[A]

I. I don't even know what that is.

[B]

Yeah, I actually don't know what it is either. But, like, I think there's a lot of predators on there. Allegedly. But no, I'll play video games with my three sons for sure. We're going to bond so hard over that.

[A]

7 seems like so young.

[B]

Yeah, we'll play, like, easy games like. Like Mario Kart and stuff.

[A]

Like, should we 64?

[B]

No, not yet. Not yet.

[A]

No. But like when we do.

[B]

Yeah, we'd get some.

[A]

I would play with them.

[B]

We're not going to be playing like Call of Duty when Stratton's like six, but when he's 13, hell yeah.

[A]

I used to love some.

[B]

We're going to drop in together, War Zone, me and the boys.

[A]

My thing is.

[B]

But honestly, when they're in college, like, I'll probably be at home empty nester with you and playing with him. When they're in college.

[A]

Here's the thing. If they want to be gamers, I'll be like, all right, then you guys got to practice for five hours a day. They're like, okay, mom. Yeah. They're like, no, I like bring them snacks.

[B]

I. I honestly think, like, I mean, video games, for me, it really held me back from a lot.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, because you just spend so much time.

[A]

Your room stink.

[B]

Like what did. There was one time. My friend. I'll never forget this, my friend Chase.

[A]

And the funny is you have literally no bo. Like, Jordan is not a stinky person. He's never shunk like a day in my life.

[B]

I'll never forget my friend Chase came over and like I heard him at the door and I was like, I'm not answering the door because all I want to do is play video games.

[A]

Like, pretend I'm not here.

[B]

And Chase is that friend who was always like, come outside and play. And like he came like my mom let him in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I heard him come in the door, so I pretended like I was asleep, but I left the, the Xbox on. And he walked into the bed and he saw the Xbox on. He goes, I know you're not asleep. Let's get outside. And it was like the worst day of your life. It's the worst day of my life. But yeah, you got to be careful with them. Video games.

[A]

Yeah. I think you, I think putting your kids in a lot of sports helps.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or activities.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Even. It's like piano lessons.

[B]

Me and Stratton have been really dominating these Legos lately.

[A]

I love that hobby. It's so cute. My brother was obsessed with Legos growing up. Like, he had a whole like, on his whole whole dresser, like a really long dresser. Had like 50 arrangements, whatever.

[B]

It's so great.

[A]

It's so weird.

[B]

It's like, it's like the first, it's the first hobby that like I feel like Stratton and I have found that feels like it's like we're both having fun. Cuz usually like we're putting together Like a, you know, giant puzzle.

[A]

Oh, see, I love puzzling with him.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah, it's, like, my thing.

[B]

Yeah. It's just not.

[A]

We have a lot of fun doing that.

[B]

And I like to teach. I like to do the. The workbooks. The workbooks with them. But that's not like. That's, like, more. I'm like, I'm proud of you for, like, being smarter, but Legos is, like, man, we're, like, enjoying this together.

[A]

Yeah. I built a couple Legos in my lifetime. It just wasn't for me.

[B]

That's okay. It's like.

[A]

Yeah, it's all those little choices with my nails, and they're flying everywhere and. Yeah, I like the chunky Legos better.

[B]

The blocks.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, those are good. Good time. Okay, well, let's see. Do you want to talk about the story post that I made about feeling pressure to speak out on the Internet about ice situations?

[B]

Yes. Yes. I totally forgot about this. Oh, my gosh. We've had two. Really? That happened. That was really interesting. And then we had a really kind of, like, philosophical discussion last night at Nuri.

[A]

I don't remember what we talked about.

[B]

We talked about navigating life, being ugly or hot.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

And just.

[A]

It's always a fun conversation.

[B]

Just, like, the differences in, like, hot girls, the way that the world opens up to you if you're, like, hot and. And just the lifestyle it. Of it all.

[A]

Yeah. But let's. Should we go back to the more serious. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Let's talk about. Let's talk about your. Your position on speaking out against ice.

[A]

Should I read what I post just in case people on the podcast didn't.

[B]

Yeah, read it. Double down.

[A]

I mean, I'm not trying to double down. They just honestly might have, like, totally missed it. Okay. I said I've learned a lot after being online for 13 years. You are not a morally superior person because of the posts you share this week. You are allowed to take time to process and pray. Even after all that, you don't have to say anything online if you don't want to. You're allowed to feel compassion for what's going on in the world, but log off and focus on being the mom, friend, and wife and person you're called to be. Whatever that means to you. People do not want your opinion. They want affirmation that you agree with them. Or they want someone to target for the fear and anger they feel inside. They are scared, and you are the easiest one to blame. It makes them feel special or superior. To quote Unquote, call you out. But it's not productive. In fact, it's manipulative. Conversations and commentary are so much healthier when not said in the heat of the moment, but after prayer, processing, and conviction, that timeline is up to you and God. I've been hurting over the state of our country for the past three or four days as well. But I refuse to play the game in Virtue Signal so people think I'm a quote, unquote, good person. It feels fake, unproductive, and performative. As a mom, arguing with other accounts in the comment section or DMS feels irresponsible with my attention and time. I have three little ones to show up for, to raise, to be courageous, bold, and faithful humans. That's my primary focus. Not reading and replying to the countless of hateful strangers in my DMs, to any other mamas out there. You're doing so great sticking to your mission of raising faithful children. So proud of you. And keep, keep fighting. I wasn't really speaking out against.

[B]

No, no, you were. Like, you were speaking out against being forced to speak out.

[A]

I think anyone in their right mind knows that, like, I don't care how. How things went down. Like, I watched the video and it's horrible what happened.

[B]

Yes, it's horrible.

[A]

Whether you are instigating it or not. It's just a horrible. Like, I don't think. I think that we're all on the same team about that, and people are trying to be like, like, you're on this team. He's like, no, that was horrible.

[B]

There's no sides to the situation. It was a crappy situation.

[A]

It was horrible. And so. And then also, everything that was happening in Nashville, like, I was really, really worried about every. Everybody in Nashville. Like, with all the trees falling on, like, Landon's house and the power and all these people, like, and then I, like, Jen Houghton's house caught on fire. Like, there's all these, like, whole crazy things going on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. At the same time, my kids, like, it's an ice storm. And so we are at home, and I'm like, I'm about to lose my freaking marbles because, like, these kids are driving me freaking nuts. So I kind of, like, take a. Whenever that happens, you kind of take a step away from social media in general because you're just like, I have to take care of, like, the thing that, like, God literally gave me in my own home first and figure this out. And then also, like, neighbors and friends and family that are going through, like, horrible Things. Because this ice storm and figuring out how, like, they're gonna get their medications or whatever. And so then, you know, a couple days into it, I get on my phone, I see all these dms, and they're like, I can't believe you're not speaking out about this. This is. I'm like, I literally actually don't know what you are talking about.

[B]

Like, I might be.

[A]

What?

[B]

Today, we. We really were kind of oblivious to what was going on.

[A]

I go, babe, do you know what happened?

[B]

You know, we were blasting the Weather Channel. We were giving them so many ratings. We had that thing blaring 24 7.

[A]

That's all we were watching, was the Weather Channel. And then I get all my dms, and people are like, I can't believe you unfollowing. You're disgusting. I hate you. Like, you're not speaking out about this, this, and this. And there were so many different topics to be speaking out against. And I was like, guys, like, I. I haven't been on my phone. Like, I literally don't know what's going on. And it. It, like, really upset me because I was like, I feel now pressured to say something that I don't know anything about, and now I have to do it on their timeline in the time and, like, say what they want the way that they want. And I'm scared I'm gonna say it wrong. And I don't even know, like, what's going on. And also, like, I have come to, like, realize that I'm not gonna just, like, watch one video and then trust everything that they say.

[B]

Like, you learned that one on the. The Israel, Palestine thing?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Never forget it. We were flying home from Nashville. Danny starts getting pressure. This was, like, four years ago. Not the big one. The. The one before that. And Danny was like, why aren't you speaking out on Israel versus Palestine? And so then Danny spent three hours on the way home from Nashville being like, I'm gonna digest the centuries worth of history to understand who is right and who is wrong.

[A]

And I'm, like, looking up scripture in.

[B]

This vastly complicated geopolitical event. And then she made a statement. And I was like, danny, I was like, you shouldn't do this. And then she made a statement. And then she got. She. It started with the love, like, thank you for speaking out. These. And then it was like, the other side came out. They were like. And then she was like, I immediately regret this.

[A]

I was like, I literally don't know what I'm talking about. I'm trying to Understand?

[B]

And it was such a good effort.

[A]

But everyone's like, so it's like, you don't say anything. And they're like, wow, that's such a privilege that you. I don't have to say anything. And I'm like, well, I'm really just trying to keep my children alive. Like, in, like, if that's privilege and that's privilege, I'm sorry, I don't. I. I'm just really trying to, like, focus on what I have to do right here, right now, and I will catch up and I will take some time and try to understand. But right now, if that's, if that's what you want to call privilege, that is what is happening. Here's the thing about everything. The thing about everything is I, I really do believe in, like, personal conviction. And if you feel like you have a heart to say something about something, like, I have felt that before, but, like, I can't understand everything. Like, I don't under. And I will. Like, I try to, like, I try to read, I try to understand, but in that timeline that everybody wants, I can't. So I, I really support, like, everybody's, like, conviction to share what they want to share. And, like, whether it's. I agree with it or not, like, you go for it, girlfriend. But it's when they come at me and want me to share what they want within their timeline, I'm like, I. I just, I think this time around, it had nothing to do with what was going on. I was just like, I can't play this game. Like, I'm not going to. It feels so fake right now for me to just try to, like, watch 10 or 15 other influencers and basically summarize what they're saying and then just post it on my stories to, like, make everybody happy. So everybody thinks I'm a good person when, like, I know that what happened to Alex, like, it broke my heart. It is really sad what happens to a lot of people, like, all the time. It is really sad. But I don't think that, like, posting something is going to make me morally superior than you, because you posted that and I didn't post anything that way. That means that you're a better person than me. I just don't think that that's how, like, social media is. It's. It's not. In fact, I feel like it's actually almost like a cop out to, like, post stuff on social media and to, like, be like, well, I posted this and you didn't post anything. So, like, I took care of it. And, like, I'm done and you're not. Like, you still have your work to do when I actually think it takes more courage to, like, have conversations in, like, real life or to, like, bring it up at your church or with your friends or talk about at the dinner table with your kids. Like, I think that takes more courage than just, like, reposting a post that everybody else is sharing. I'm just like, so. I'm so over the virtue signaling. Like, it's so fake for so many people. And, like, you can tell that so many people are being pressured to say stuff that they really don't know what they're talking about. They're just outraged because they're. They're scared and everybody else is outraged, so they just post stuff to cover their butts. And it's, like, so obvious. And I don't. I don't want to play that game anymore. I'm like, I'm not. I'm not playing it. Like, I'm sorry. And, like, like I said, there will be things that I feel convicted of that I feel like I understand in the moment, and I could speak to it quicker, but there are some things that I don't understand that I'm just not going to speak about until I feel confident that I feel convicted about sharing something. Something like, you know what I mean? We're all, like, different. We all have, like, different convictions, perceptions, like, understandings of things. And it's like, why we don't all have to act, react the same.

[B]

I want to meet the person in your audience that saw what was going down in Minneapolis and genuinely 100 authentically woke up and said, I want to.

[A]

Know what Danny Austin.

[B]

I want to know what Danny Austin thinks. No, I know you're smart. I love you. Like, you're very well read. But, like, who in their right mind is going and being like, I really, really need my favorite influencer.

[A]

Can I tell you what they would say to that? This is what I get all the time. Danny, you are. You have this massive following, which is a huge responsibility, and you need to be using your platform for good. And I'm really disappointed that you haven't said anything.

[B]

That one's hard.

[A]

Therefore, I am unfollowing you. I think that that's, first of all, like, those GMs don't get me at all anymore because I'm like, honey, I'm human just like you are. Like, I started posting videos in my dorm room when I was 13 years old. That doesn't make me any Superior than you. Like, I'm learning the same way that you're learning. Like, I don't know why you expect me to have some really quick revelation about something. How are we different at all? Like, we're both influential in our own ways. In fact, like, like, it. The way that you truly influence people typically is like one on one conversation, like in a community, like, when you're face to face with them, like, like especially on hard topics now, if it's like a product or something, like, whatever, but. But like that's how it actually works. So we really have like the same responsibility in my, in my opinion, because I'm not my brain. Actually, your brain probably works faster than mine, to be honest.

[B]

Mm. I'm. I don't understand, like, when you click into the profile, sometimes those are like real people. Like, they have posts, they have pictures. But then there's sometimes that are just like burner accounts that are sending these, like, really antagonistic, like, you need to speak out. And they're not just doing it to you, they're doing it at mass scale. And you can tell, we're in the industry, we know the influences that influencers that are speaking out out of true conviction. And the ones that are like, dude, I know you know nothing about what's going on in Minneapolis.

[A]

People are angry and they're hurt and they like, don't know where to target that energy. And I feel that, like, I've felt that way before. It's like when you take your anger out on, like, your spouse, it's the same exact thing where it's like you take your anger out on people that you love the most because you don't know where else to harness it. And it's like you feel so helpless, like behind a screen that all you can really think to do in the moment is have these people with big platforms and these people that you follow agree with you because that's going to make you feel so much better for the anger and feeling that you have. And when they don't agree with you and they don't post anything, you feel so alone in your fear. Like, I, I understand, I feel like the psychology behind it. And I think that's why I also don't want to fall for it anymore. Because I'm like, I know that me saying something isn't about that, it's about you. Like, I know that that's what it's really about. And so, yeah, I don't, I don't know how to help people, like, harness that energy for something that's actually more productive because I do not think that anything I would post would actually change anyone's mind. I think you come to me to, to see if I validated what you felt already. You're not coming to me to see what my opinion is. And if I disagreed with your opinion, then that gives you the validation to unfollow me. And it feels, feels so good to like, DM me and be like, I am unfollowing you because you do not feel what I'm feeling right now. And like, you don't agree with my anger and you're not frustrated like I am. And so, like, I want to unfollow you and like, that's justice. Like, I'm doing good work now because I'm unfollowing Danny. Like, that's going to really move the needle. And I'm like, I can't, I can't help you in this moment. Like, I, I. Not only that, but it's like these conversations that we're having through DMS are like, so unproductive. Like, they're not helpful. They're taking away from like, what I've always seen is like, if you truly want to make a difference, like raise good kids that are going to like, make a difference, like, and I'm like, this energy and this time that I'm spending on worrying about DMS and people being mean or trying to like, harass me or say this or say that. Like, I'm like, I don't, like, I have three children plus I'm pregnant. Like, if, if I want to make some actual moves, it's going to be like pouring into my children. Like what I have in front of me, then getting behind my DMS and spending hours arguing with people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, it just. The only thing that you're going to leave with, you're going to feel after three or four hours of arguing, you're just going to feel angrier.

[B]

Like, well, no, what's going to happen is that by next week they'll, all this will die down. And then it's like, it's like memory hold. Like, oh, I can't believe I sent that dm because in the moment you're acting off of so much emotion. But then when, I don't know, I.

[A]

Think they still, I think that people use this as a strategy, like, long term, Like, I think it's a long term strategy to deal with your emotions. And, and I know that these people feel very like passionately about what they are speaking about. And honestly, a lot of times I probably agree with him. That's what's so funny. Like, I didn't even say what I felt about the situation because I was so bothered that I was being bullied to say something that I was like, I'm just not doing it. But a lot of people that are arguing with me, like, I actually kind of agree with you. Like, I, I see both sides. Like, I'm like, I. You know what I mean? And so it is crazy. I'm like, you don't even know how I feel. But I feel like you're not even giving me the opportunity to process and understand what I feel. So I'm. Therefore, I'm just not going to give you any of it because it's like, it's just manipulate. It's emotional manipulation. It's like the way that you are coming at me and trying to, like, force us to say something within your timeline is so manipulative. Like, it's not healthy for anyone. Plus, anything said in the heat of the moment, even whenever you're, like, arguing with your spouse, never is healthy. Never.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And, like, sometimes you take like a. Like the Israel, Palestine conflict. Like, I tried to, Like, I was like, oh, my God, I gotta say something right now. Like, so let me go digest for three hours and try to understand, you know, centuries of. Of history, like, within three hours so I can have an opinion. But then you learn more and more and more. In three weeks, you might feel a little differently.

[B]

Like, yeah, you did. You really. You put in the effort, though, on that one. I watched it happen.

[A]

I could put in the effort for anything. But, like, also, I just want people to understand, people on the right. You are seeing the worst version of the people on the left. People on the left, you are seeing the most, like, disgusting version of people on the right. We're both seeing extreme versions of each other. It's. It's not all like that. It's not like people are. It's like, there is a middle. Like, there is a way to see both sides and to be civil about things. But that's. That's boring. And that's not going to get any clicks and that's not going to get any views. So the left is going to show you the most crazy versions of the right, and the right is going to show you the most crazy, like, hysterical versions of the left. And then let's just all fight about it. And I'm like, I'm not doing it. Like, I'm not doing it.

[B]

Honestly, if you want to double up on Your New Year's resolutions. I go to Planet Fitness, and they have CNN on the right screen and then Fox News on the left screen, and then they have ESPN in the middle. And I find that the truth is kind of like, this is what the right saying. This is what the left saying. It's probably like a blend in the middle.

[A]

Yeah, totally.

[B]

So.

[A]

And I'm so sick of everybody putting labels on all of us, like, oh, she's this or she's that or she's a lib and she's a maga. I don't even know what those things mean these days.

[B]

I just want to take a Tylenol.

[A]

I do take Tylenol.

[B]

I know, because you're.

[A]

That I'm in the middle.

[B]

Well, sorry, I forgot. Tylenol was loved. It was banned by the right. So then you took it, and then you were a lib.

[A]

Yeah, I forgot, technically, because I take. Okay, here's what people say. I'm going to make a statement. Hi, my name is Danny Austin. I'm pregnant, and I take Tylenol. Everyone. Now, all the libs are like, yes, she's a lib.

[B]

She's a fighter. She's a revolutionary. Stand up against the Gestapo.

[A]

But then I also make a video. I'm like, hi, my name is Danny Austin. I've heard that. Or that Tylenol might not be good for you while you're pregnant, especially in mass amounts. She's a Republican. She loves Trump. She's a MAGA girl. It's just like, so you take these one things, and I'm like, no, realistically, like, I learned that Tylenol might. Might be bad for you, so I just try to take less. But I've taken it all my pregnancies. So, like, when I'm really dying, like, I had the COVID I took some Tylenol.

[B]

Yeah, you really can't. If you're. If you're stuck in this, like, right versus left, you're kind of like. You're kind of just wrong on all fronts because you're being manipulated mostly by the media.

[A]

That was another thing that I think. Okay, so I think this was like, the one that, like, really set me off was when I returned to social media, I was tagged in a post ghost, and it was some other person, some other influencer tagging all the people that haven't spoken up, like, calling them out.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

And I knew, like, this person, and they're like, calling like, babe. It's just, like, so insane.

[B]

You know what? I think the Actual privileges. And I'm being real about this because I do think that we have Privilege.

[A]

Privilege, yeah, of course.

[B]

But here's what I think the actual privilege is, is, like, if you're an influencer and you felt pressured to speak out, and you spoke out, like, I don't really blame you because, like, I. I understand the fear. And, like, so much of your, like, economic means are tied to your reputation. So, like, we realized that most in 2020. And I feel like we worked really hard to, like, not have to depend on.

[A]

That's why we got a bunch of rental properties. That's exactly what we did. We're like, let's take all of our money and put it into rental properties. And we, like. We, like, literally, like, mapped out, like, exactly what our expenses were each month and made sure that the rent would cover our expenses.

[B]

Yes. So. But I do.

[A]

I was like, I don't want to have to play this game forever.

[B]

So I think that that's the. The actual privilege that we have is. I think that what's unfortunate, and I think it's getting lesser. So. But, like, especially in, like, 2020, it's a privilege to be able to, like, exercise your right to free speech, free opinion. And I think that, like, even us being able to not have to speak out right or left and say, like, what you said is a privilege, because most people who are influencers listening to this are like, man, I. Yeah, like, if I'm being honest with myself, I didn't want to say anything, but I felt like I had to say that.

[A]

But you're saying we're privileged as influencers to other influencers. What about just, like, to normal people? People.

[B]

I think that they feel the same.

[A]

I think they feel the same to, like, speak out.

[B]

Yeah, I do. I think that they. I think when the pressure campaign starts, I think that, you know, everyone feels pressured to take one side, and they don't have the freedom to actually process and be like, I don't agree with this point. I don't think that they do.

[A]

I don't know. But I feel like if we did it, why wouldn't they?

[B]

Because they're looking to influencers. Like, like, think about it. If you're just, like, not a social media influencer, you're opening up. You follow maybe a couple influencers here and there. And then you see all your friends. Well, your friends, like, all these social media influencers. It's like celebrities. When celebrities used to speak out about politics, if you're not educated, you're like, whoa, they are the voice of truth. Because they have this huge platform now. People don't trust celebrities at all.

[A]

I'm really hoping.

[B]

But this is, this is the. What I'm saying is, like, I think it's a privilege to take your own stance on things. Because what happens is I think that. And I, I'm truly convinced that it's like a propaganda arm. Some NGO is, like, in the influencers DMs and in the celebrities, like, and pressuring. Because if they can get the spokespeople with the biggest platforms to start speaking on these subjects, it trickles down so easily. Does that make sense? Like, if your friend who's an influencer who has 2 million followers starts speaking out with the stance of like, oh, my gosh, they just attacked my moral fiber. I have to speak out against ice, for example, like, or covet or whatever it is, then it trickles down. Then someone who's like, I just follow these couple influencers. They're speaking out. Should I be speaking out? Do you remember the black box?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it's the same thing with the black box. Like, everyone posted the black.

[A]

We didn't even really know what it meant.

[B]

No one knew what it meant. And then we got hate for posting the black box. Well, do you know that?

[A]

Okay, so today everybody's like, I sell. And I'm like, I don't know what that means, but everybody's icing out, which I think it's meaning they're not spending any money. Like, I don't. I literally don't know because I haven't had time to, like, figure it out. I was really worried about making this Bible study this morning.

[B]

So I, like, don't feel. I'm going to be honest. They don't feel like grassroots campaigns. They feel like coordinated propaganda.

[A]

Like, feel like virtue signals to, like, feel like you are. Are making a difference. And it's really just bullying people to say stuff that you, that you, that you want them to agree with.

[B]

Yeah. And I think some communication firm out there that works for either the right or the left knows exactly how to attack people's moral fiber and make people bend the knee. Because people would rather say something that they don't believe or don't have true conviction over versus being deemed a bad person. I think it's our greatest weakness is, like, caring what people think so much that we're like, it's the same, like, reason.

[A]

I think that's why the black box. Yeah, I think it's why I didn't post it this time, because I was like, I mean, no, you didn't. But I was like, I know. I know how I feel about this and I know what I feel convicted about. I know what I feel is right or wrong wrong. And I don't need to post something out there to make myself feel like a better person. Like, I feel like I've crossed that. I think that's one of the things about getting older that is so great. That's why I think my mom was like, the 40s are the best years of your life because you're like, idf. Like, you literally don't care what people think. And I have found that, like, as I've gotten older, I'm like, I. I read these DMS from people that were like, I'm disgusted with you because you haven't changed, used your platform to speak. I. I literally felt, like, bad for them. Like, I was like, this is so silly that, like, this is what you're spending your time doing.

[B]

No, I. And I.

[A]

But like, five years ago, I would have been crawled up in a bull in a ball, dying, crying, and I would have too.

[B]

I would have been like, we have a baby on the way. This is our economic means of survival. But, like, that's what I'm saying is, like, we're so privileged to be able to not care about that. And that's what's so unfortunate in this day and age, because even someone who's not a social media influencer, like, these people, like, they're getting docs. Like, a normal people who don't.

[A]

I lost all those brand deals who.

[B]

Don'T tow the line. But I'm not saying, let's say you have a nine to five normal people who don't tow the party line of whatever that is or whatever is the predominant message of the Internet, are literally getting docs. Like, hey, did you know that this employee didn't speak out against this? Like, the.

[A]

I don't know though, if it's happening that much.

[B]

No, it is, it is. It's crazy.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

So it's privileged to be able to have your own opinion. I really do think that it sucks, but it's true.

[A]

Well, the one thing I was hoping for with my post was, like, I hadn't seen anyone say something like, similar to what I was saying, which was like, I just saw everybody, like, I don't know. And I really hope that when people Reddit, they felt the same. Like, they felt like they didn't have to, like, say something that they, like, didn't believe in. Or didn't understand in the moment. And this has nothing to do with, like, Minnesota. And I'm talking covet. I'm talking.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Everything political. This has nothing to do with that situation. It's like, duh, what happened to him was awful. Like, we all agree with that. It's disgusting. Like, we don't have to fight about that. I agree with you guys. I think, like, the whole situation with ice, it's this. It's. It's craziness. It's craziness. Everything that's happening is crazy. And I agree with all of that. But, like, I. I don't. I don't feel like people should be pressured to say. Say something, and that's going to make them, like, a better person. I just don't. I don't believe that. Especially on social media.

[B]

Yeah. How about this baby drizzle tonight? Okay. What is one thing you're. What is one thing you're excited about for this weekend?

[A]

We have all those school tours.

[B]

Yeah, we got a lot of.

[A]

Isn't that, like, the biggest fear that, like, these schools listen to our podcast?

[B]

No.

[A]

Oh, I think about it every day.

[B]

No, we are who we are. If anything, they should let us in. Okay, bye.

[A]

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