Dani is Starting to Warm Up to Nashville

Summary

De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan

Episode: Dani is Starting to Warm Up to Nashville

Release Date: April 30, 2026
Host: Dear Media
Hosts: Dani & Jordan

Episode Overview

In this candid and playful episode, Dani and Jordan dive into their evolving feelings about the possibility of moving to Nashville, Tennessee. The couple discuss the cultural contrasts between Dallas and Nashville, sharing honest reflections on parenting, marriage dynamics, and their life in the public eye. They open up about logistical challenges, emotional growth in their relationship, and the impact of community and family values. The episode balances laugh-out-loud anecdotes with genuine relationship insights, making it a relatable listen for anyone navigating marriage, parenthood, or community changes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Marriage Dynamics: Humor, Sensitivity, and Growth

• The episode opens with playful banter about Dani’s business awards, segueing into a conversation about marriage and how their relationship evolved from sensitivity and conflict to humor and stability.
• Memorable Moment: Dani jokingly says her biggest accomplishment is Jordan—“I feel like my biggest accomplishment is you.” (01:03)
• They discuss relationship roles, their personalities, and the skills—and patience—it takes to manage “big emotions.”
• Quote: “Your family doesn’t like sensitive people. You guys were not raised to be sensitive.” – Jordan (01:37)
• Quote: “If I die, you can remarry, but I want you to marry someone really mousy... not funny, no edge, just nice.” – Dani (02:10)
• They address their improved ability to handle disagreement, giving each other grace and space.
• Quote: “It’s not about who’s right. It’s about how I make you feel.” – Jordan (14:00)
• Marriage Tip: Jordan explains that learning to be emotionally sturdy, as opposed to reactive, helped his marriage. He credits a metaphor about men being the “concrete wall” and women the “waves” (21:30).

2. Parenting: The Chaos and the Comedy

• Dani shares her typically “spaghetti brain” approach to planning while organizing a birthday party for their son, Stratton, without professional help (05:38).
• They describe the juggling act of entertaining and parenting four children, especially on weekends.
  • Quote: “Do you ever feel like the weekends just feel like war?” – Jordan (09:25)
• Dani elaborates on how she struggles with logistics and juggling social obligations, wanting guests to always feel comfortable (07:20).
• There’s humor in their honest depiction of parenting fatigue and “survival mode.”
• They reflect on their community of friends and the changing nature of adult friendships as families grow.

3. Community, Culture, and Considering Nashville

• The central theme arises mid-episode as Dani and Jordan weigh the prospects of moving from Dallas to Nashville.
• They describe God moments, signs, and experiences in Nashville that made them feel welcome—including an elderly woman at Jason’s Deli telling them, “God is proud of y’all.” (37:21)
• The couple remark on the warmth, family orientation, and genuine culture of Nashville vs. Dallas.
  • Quote: “In Nashville, I feel like I can just be here. Like, I don’t need to be something, I can just be.” – Dani (46:02)
• Dani details Nashville’s emphasis on personal values over status, noting that Dallas often feels like a competition of who you know and what you have (47:11).
• Quote: “Dallas culture is very much that—if you weren’t a part of it, you feel less than.” – Dani (47:11)

4. Social Pressures, Awards, and Keeping it Real

• Dani and Jordan reflect on living in Dallas, the competitive atmosphere, and the endless “mountains” of success.
  • Quote: “Do we have to have more? ... I don’t want more. I want to be content.” – Jordan (51:23)
• They joke about Dani’s “side boob” social media post possibly influencing the family’s school admissions process (38:57).
• They explore the balance between ambition and happiness, concluding that chasing more success isn’t necessarily fulfilling.

5. Building Family Bonds

• Dani shares her intentional focus on fostering sibling unity and prioritizing family in her children’s lives.
  • Story: She recounts Stella willingly sharing her birthday jelly beans with her little brother, Strawton, as an example of family teamwork (53:54).
• Quote: “Besides your relationship with God, the most important thing is family and your siblings.” – Dani (54:45)

6. Influencer Culture & Reality TV Talk

• Discussion shifts to “Secret Lives of Mormon Wives” and influencer culture, especially as some influencers become less relatable after attaining success (56:53).
• Jordan breaks down the “fork in the road” for influencers: stay relatable and humble, or lean into visible wealth and status (59:58).
• They consider different approaches by influencers such as Avery Woods and Alex Earl, discussing authenticity and public perception.
  • Quote: “The Internet is so smart—they know.” – Jordan (59:58)
  • Quote: “No matter how successful you are... there’s always ways to be relatable, because emotion is emotion.” – Dani (60:59)
• Both agree that humility and genuine personality maintain connection with audiences, regardless of wealth or status.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• Dani’s playful ambition:
  “I feel like my biggest accomplishment is you.” (01:03)
• On emotional growth:
  “It’s not about who’s right. It’s about how I make you feel.” – Jordan (14:00)
• Marriage analogy:
  “The husband’s like the concrete wall, and the woman is the wave crashing against it.” – Jordan recalling a TikTok (21:31)
• On Nashville:
  “God is proud of y’all.” – Elderly woman at Jason’s Deli (37:46) “In Nashville, I feel like I can just be here. Like, I don’t need to be something, I can just be.” – Dani (46:02)
• Social media & School admissions:
  “It could be the side boob keeping us back.” – Dani (39:19)
• Influencer culture:
  “The Internet is so smart—they know.” – Jordan (59:58) “No matter, like, how successful you are... there’s always ways to be relatable, because emotion is emotion.” – Dani (60:59)
• On family unity:
  “The most important thing is family and your siblings.” – Dani (54:45)

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Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Marriage & Humor: 00:55–02:39
• Parenting & Party Planning Chaos: 05:09–10:04
• Weekend Parenting Realities: 09:25–10:04
• Marriage Growth & Conflict Resolution: 13:17–16:45, 21:30–26:44
• Considering Nashville & Community Differences: 37:00–50:04
• Parenting Values & Sibling Bonding: 52:32–55:48
• Influencer Culture, Success & Authenticity: 56:00–62:44

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Final Thoughts

This episode skillfully blends lighthearted marital banter, honest reflections on personal growth, and sincere discussion of place, community, and family. Dani and Jordan’s willingness to be vulnerable—about everything from school admissions to influencer burnout—adds warmth and relatability. Their musings on Nashville’s welcoming culture, together with practical relationship takeaways, make this episode especially resonant for listeners questioning community fit or seeking gentler approaches to marriage and parenting.

If you’re considering a big move, grappling with the pressures of success, or just want a comforting, honest take on family life, this one’s for you.

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Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

[B]

Hello, and welcome back to your favorite podcast, de Influenced. I wish y' all could have seen moments before this. Jordan was rearranging. Oh, yeah. If you're watching this on video, we have a different set background.

[A]

It's actually just the left side of our set.

[B]

Left side of our set. But it was really cute because Jordan went and got all of the my awards from downstairs in my office, and he wanted to display them behind me. And so we have our ey. Entrepreneurship Entrepreneur of the Year. That was a American Influencer award. Not to start this episode just bragging, but, you know, JP Morgan, female founder, Emerging Brand of the year. That was 2025, I believe.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

But you know what's so funny is it's a lot of accomplishment, but. Oh, wait. Oh. Ink 500.

[A]

You still feel hollow?

[B]

No, I was gonna say I feel like my biggest accomplishment is you.

[A]

Oh, so nice.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Who put you up to saying that?

[B]

I really. I felt it in my heart.

[A]

Wow. I believe you.

[B]

I was like. I really did. Well, I was gonna say my kids first, but then I was like, he's here.

[A]

I might as well say him.

[B]

No, but I actually feel like that just came because you were around, but, like, I had to choose you. Like, that was something I, like, did.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, I, like, made that decision, and I did good.

[A]

I've also been making you laugh a lot lately.

[B]

I know, because you don't take everything so seriously. You used to be so, like, sensitive,

[A]

and it was like, yeah, no, your family doesn't like sensitive people. You guys were not raised to be sensitive.

[B]

We also don't really like really nice people.

[A]

Yeah. No. You think they're boring.

[B]

No, I like nice people. Sorry, that's not the word. It's like, when people are, like, too nice.

[A]

Mousy. You don't like mousey.

[B]

People tell people what I said.

[A]

She. But did. She did say that if she dies, I am allowed to remarry, but I have to marry someone really mousy. Because she said if I marry someone like her, then she'll haunt me for the rest of my life.

[B]

I said, if you. If I die, you can't remarry, but I want you to marry, like, the sweetest girl in the world. Like, I want her to have absolutely no edge. Like, I want her to wear, like, those really long dresses with the flowers on them with a headband and just, like, I want her to cook for you every meal, and I want her to just, like, love you so much, but just really not be funny. Not have any edge to her and just be nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then I'd be okay with it.

[A]

I was sick. What? Last week. And I never get sick. And I'm not really, like, needy. I don't really, like, need much. Right.

[B]

Yeah. No.

[A]

And so I was so sick, though, and Danny made me a sandwich and brought it to me, and she was like, look, I'm so mousy.

[B]

You also were. You had strep throat, and it was probably the gnarliest strep throat I've ever seen. If you ever Google, like, strep throat, and they're like. This is what a throat could look like. They're like. That's what Jordan looked like. It. It was so white and pussy that it was so bad that it turned green on the sides.

[A]

It's so bad.

[B]

And then. Yeah. I've never seen a case of strep that intense.

[A]

You know what it remind me of?

[B]

Childbirth.

[A]

No, it reminded me of that cyst that you have that has teeth.

[B]

We don't know that for a fact.

[A]

No, I think about it probably once a week. It's got hair. It's like a little.

[B]

I have a dorsal. What do they call it? A door? Dorsal cyst. Dor. Der. Der. Whatever. I have ovarian cysts.

[A]

Don't Google it if you don't know what we're talking about. Do not Google it.

[B]

Not everybody. H. They don't all have teeth. Sometimes they can.

[A]

Yeah, it's in hair.

[B]

But you know what? I don't think that I do, because I. I got a full body mri, and I feel like they. They would have seen them.

[A]

They were seeing the teeth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, you're probably right. So did you have anything from that mri?

[B]

No, I'm only clear.

[A]

All clear.

[B]

Interesting. Yeah, they.

[A]

But you do have ovarian cysts.

[B]

I've had ovarian. Like, every girl has ovarian cysts.

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Jenny, do you have them? Yeah, every girl has them. It's like. It's like a riot passage.

[A]

Really interesting.

[B]

Yeah, you just get little cysts on your ovaries.

[A]

I should get an mri.

[B]

Yeah. You know what I was seeing about that.

[A]

You know, when's the last time I had a physical? Like 10 years.

[B]

Oh, you have been acting a little funky.

[A]

No, no, I think I'm very healthy. I don't think I need any doctor to tell me what to do.

[B]

Yeah, but you never know. You should do one of those new bows, and you should do it.

[A]

Yeah, I should. I should do that.

[B]

They're kind of outrageous. But, you know, it's like, you know, today has been one of those days for me. I. It's weird. I have probably two days a month where I'm just on a freaking high where I just wake up and it's like. It's. It's like I've taken an Adderall, but I haven't. And it's like I. I don't touch that stuff anymore.

[A]

She's clean.

[B]

Just, you know, that stuff effed up my life. Um, but, man, it's like I. I just, like, I need to do things. I need to just, like, clean and organize.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, do you ever feel that? And today was one of those days, and it usually. I don't usually wake up thinking, today I'm going to be like the Hulk in, like, a Hulk organizer. But I kind of, like, just. I weaned myself into it. And what it started with today was, you know, I have a busy weekend, so I have. Today Lana, Olivia are coming in town, and I have this real idea, I'll tell you about it in a second that I want to do tomorrow. I am having Stratton's birthday party with no coordinator. So I'm the coordinator. And you know how I do with coordination. Not good. I get overwhelmed. It's like. It's like 9am I'm getting my hair makeup done. I know I'm bougie, but I didn't want to deal with it. 8:45, the balloons arrive. 9:15, the cake arrives. Oh, no, wait. The cake is actually arriving today. Oh, see, I'm not downstairs. If somebody comes, like, I'm gonna miss it, you know, at. You know, this time. Captain America arrives at this time, these things. So I'm. Chick fil a is coming. You know, I'm doing cake. I'm doing cake. I'm doing pizza. And I. It's me. It's on me.

[A]

Is this, like, a blogger birthday, or is this, like, a pretty chill one?

[B]

I tried to keep it chill, but, you know, things add up. Things add up.

[A]

Yeah. There's a train coming.

[B]

And Stratton is. Stratton is like. He's my boy. You know what I mean? That dirty dog. I just. I have to give him everything he wants. I just. He looks at me with those big blue eyes, and I'm like. I'm like, you want to train and Captain America and ice cream in a bounce house? I'm like, you got it, baby. Like, I can't say no. Stella. I can say no to. It's easier for Me, I don't know why that is with daughters, but with boys, I'm just like. Or just want to spoil the heck out of you. So anyway, that's happening and I'm a little worried because one thing about me is, like, when I am overwhelmed with logistics and have to be social at the same time, I break down. Like, it is. You're really good at that. You're really good at being social and being logistical and having to film and taking that. I am not created for that type of stress or that type. Like, I'm fragile, but I'm doing it tomorrow. It's because.

[A]

It's because your brain spaghetti and mine's pasta.

[B]

But I also. But the reason why is to, like, I am so concerned about hurting people's feelings or people feeling uncomfortable or people like, not knowing where the bathroom is or, like, not having a drink or, like, not finding a condiment or not having a good time that, like, puts so much weight on me. And like, I also just feel. I don't even feel this way sometimes, like, in the, like, public eye. But just. Even if I didn't do what I did, like, I. I want people to like me, you know? And so then if I'm like, busy talking to someone and then somebody comes through the door because I have to deal with the logistic and I have to interrupt them and be like, sorry, I got to go. Like, it breaks my heart and I feel so bad. So anyway, that's why I typically don't like to do this, but I'm doing it because it's cheaper.

[A]

How many people are coming?

[B]

That's another thing. They put me. They put. When I say they, it's me, I'm on RSVP duty. And so that. I lost track of that a long time ago. At a certain point I was like, okay, it's just a lot of people. It's just a lot. I was like. At first I was trying to keep it so small, but then once again worried about hurting people's feelings. So then I was like, well, I'll just invite this one person from that group. And then like, three days later I was like, I have to invite everybody from that group. So anyway, I'm not stressed about it. It's going to be fine. You know. You know what Billie Eilish says? We're all going to die one day.

[A]

Yeah, no, for sure.

[B]

So it's like, you know, you can't. You can't stress about the little things. So I'm doing that. And then tomorrow night, I don't know what I'm doing. I don't really. I don't know.

[A]

You got any plans tomorrow night after this big bash?

[B]

Yeah. You got any plans?

[A]

No, we're going to chill.

[B]

Just making sure. You didn't have any.

[A]

No. No plans.

[B]

Okay, that's good.

[A]

I can't wait. Babe, we can't go anywhere.

[B]

I know, babe. That's why. It was. It was a joke.

[A]

I was gonna say, like, we are landlocked here with four children.

[B]

I know. It's like. It's like. It's like. Lol. You go anywhere. It's like, you know, because I know we're not like. Ls.

[A]

You ever feel like the weekends just feel like war?

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

I'm like, I feel like Friday, 5 o'. Clock. I'm like, okay, work's done. I was like, time to gear up.

[B]

Well, I'm like, it's put on Armor of the Lord. It's honestly time to just go to bed because you have to wake up so early.

[A]

It's like, yeah, no, for sure.

[B]

It's like, I. I can't.

[A]

Intertaining four children over a weekend is. Is proving to be very difficult.

[B]

Well.

[A]

Because the big kids want to do different things than the little kids, and it's really hard for us to go all the same place together.

[B]

Yeah. Because it's really the. Is it. The two youngest, they're really, like.

[A]

They're really laughing down.

[B]

They're like, we used to have a little bit more freedom, and now it's like, completely shot. So that's happening. And then next morning, I wake up and I'm hosting Olivia's baby shower with my mom at her house. And that's another scary thing, because if you think I'm unorganized.

[A]

And she's the party planner. Right.

[B]

She actually did get Ellie's sister Caroline to help her think. Thank you, Jesus. I've been praying about that. Thank you, Jesus, that you intervened my mom's heart and she decided to use a party planner. Because that would have been.

[A]

That would have been fun.

[B]

Like, just. Oh, my gosh, such chaos. Like, it just stresses me out thinking about it. So today I was like. The reason I was even talking about this is because I had my stylist go and pick out outfits for both all of these. Oh, shoot. I actually don't know what I'm wearing tomorrow for Shannon's birthday. It's okay. But I had her go pick out, like, baby shower outfits and stuff because, you know, nothing fits. And, you know, it's I don't have time to go shopping. And so she brought over a bunch of options, and so I started trying them on. And I think, like, once I get my body moving and grooving, then I'm like, my hands are busy already. Let's just start getting rid of stuff. Or let's start with organizing, or let's start, you know, like, doing the things that I have been that have been on the to do list for so long.

[A]

It's really good to be our. On our team, our house cleaner or our nanny during this time, because.

[B]

Or just in my general vicinity.

[A]

Or just in your general vicinity. I mean, you could be the neighbor over dropping something off.

[B]

Well, only if you're a nice neighbor. Just saying if.

[A]

If you are in Danny's general vicinity when she is in this mode, you will get so much free stuff.

[B]

Yeah. That's why you just got. You got to hang around me the right times.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's only. It's only once or twice a month.

[A]

But it's crazy.

[B]

It's. Because what I like to do is I like to build and build and just, like, have. And then just, like, shower people with gifts all at once. And it's just like, you get a car, you get a car, you get a car. And it's like.

[A]

Did you give away the Medicube, though?

[B]

No, because I know you love that, babe. I would never. I would never, never give away your Medicube.

[A]

Great brand.

[B]

They actually have these new jelly eye patches. Oh. I was gonna wear them in the episode, and I'm so obsessed with them.

[A]

It's great.

[B]

No, it's.

[A]

What do they do? Right?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Is it just the ingredients?

[B]

It's just that Korean beauty or the experience. The K beauty, I think it's just everything. It's the experience. It's the texture. It's just. It's just different.

[A]

They're so good at everything.

[B]

Yeah. So. So I have a very busy weekend, so just. I want you to just know that if I'm, you know, anxious, mean, it's not personal. So just keep up the whole, like, don't take things sensitive too much, you know?

[A]

Yeah, no, I'm. I'm groomed for it now.

[B]

Yeah, you have been way better. About that.

[A]

I really just whatever. Whatever life brings my way, I'm just. All right, I'll receive that.

[B]

Yeah, but. No, but I feel like what. What I'm saying is, like. Like, I'll be mean, and you're like, you little meanie. You know, instead of Being like, you're mean, you know?

[A]

Yeah, no, no, there's. There's only, like, even.

[B]

But I'm never mean. It is like, I'm just, like, snappy.

[A]

No, for sure. I mean, it's hard because I. There was a situation where we had to make a mutual decision.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Recently.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And it was a very complicated mutual.

[B]

It's like every day of marriage.

[A]

Yeah, but this was, like, a big one.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I didn't feel heard.

[B]

Well, I didn't either, so.

[A]

Right. But then Danny told me I wasn't listening to you because you actually don't know what you're talking about and you don't know what you want, and I know better about what you want, but

[B]

the amount of times you've said that to me.

[A]

No, I haven't. I've never said, you don't know what you want. That's like stepping on a landmine.

[B]

Okay. You're right.

[A]

Because I've learned that it's not about who's right. It's about how I make you feel. You know? And then I had this. You had this wonderful opportunity to do the same for me, and you just blew it.

[B]

Oh, you just.

[A]

You just. You just.

[B]

We're going down that path this morning. No, no, no, no.

[A]

It was bad.

[B]

It shows violence.

[A]

No, we're fine now.

[B]

I'm over here. I'm just trying to talk about the weekend. And, like, once again, you're. You're in the ship, just straight into an iceberg. I mean.

[A]

No, it was a good moment, though, because I feel like it solidified that I'm crazy. No, honestly, though, I really could have gotten very upset about this.

[B]

I know. Thank you.

[A]

And I didn't. I was just like. And then. What's so funny is I didn't get upset. And then you go, you know, we never finished our conversation. I go, yeah, we did. You told me that you know better than me and I don't know what I want. And then we talked about it again, and then we were still good.

[B]

Baby, sometimes I do know better than you.

[A]

No, it's. You really think that it's okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's sweet.

[B]

I'm over it. We already talked about it.

[A]

Yeah, no, we're over it. Anyway, we really haven't been fighting that much.

[B]

No, I know. That's what I'm saying.

[A]

I don't think we fight that much.

[B]

We used to. We went through that era.

[A]

Yeah, we did go through that era.

[B]

That year of fighting.

[A]

I know. I think about that a lot. And I was like, why do we fight so much?

[B]

It's because you were so serious.

[A]

I think you changed.

[B]

But I think you changed.

[A]

I think you were stubborn.

[B]

Babe, you know I'm just teasing. We both changed.

[A]

Yeah, we both changed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now.

[B]

Now I'm like.

[A]

I'm like, what are we. You remember that article I always talk about where it's like, parents with four kids are the least stressed people? And you were like, that's like, propaganda to have more kids.

[B]

I think it's true propaganda to have more kids.

[A]

You. I. I thought the article headline was true, that when you have four kids, you have so little control over.

[B]

No, I just think it's Instagram's algorithm giving us exactly what we want to hear.

[A]

Maybe, but it's also true.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

We're not sure the reason we don't fight about anything is because there's nothing to be stressed about.

[B]

No. I mean, someone ate a roly poly. I didn't even call the doctor. I was like, it is what it is. You know?

[A]

Like, it's probably like.

[B]

And then he. And then Stella dropped a whole thing of Jello the other day right next to the front door where everybody walks in, put it right back in there and give her a break for her. And you know what else? It had regi 40 in it for sure.

[A]

Yeah, it was.

[B]

And first of all, I don't know who's buying that Jello. Do you buy that Jello?

[A]

No.

[B]

I don't know where somebody's sneaking Jello in this house, and I don't know who it is.

[A]

PR is like, who keeps eating the Jello? It's like, all. She looks forward to it. Like, her two o' clock snack and

[B]

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[A]

to get Dani something for Mother's Day that she'll actually use. And that can be really difficult. One gift that never leads me astray is getting her something cozy. Whether that's sheets, a robe, slippers, blankets, anything cozy that they will use every day. That's why Cozy Earth is such a good option if you're looking for a Mother's Day gift this year. Their robes are one of those things that you don't think about until you put one on and then you're like, okay, this is actually really nice. Super soft. Good fit, has pockets, all the small details that make it something you end up using all the time instead of once in a while. Same thing with their slippers. It's that moment at the end of the day where you finally get home, take your shoes off and just want something comfortable. It's simple, but it makes a difference. I also like the idea behind it. It's not just a gift, it's something that adds a little bit of comfort to someone's everyday routine. Especially for moms or anyone who's constantly taking care of other people. And they stand behind it too. There's a 100 night sleep trial and a 10 year warranty which is pretty rare. Let this Mother's Day be a reminder that she deserves care too. Discover how Cozy Earth turns everyday routines into moments of softness and ease. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code Dani for an exclusive 20% off. And and if you see a post purchase survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here on D Influenced because home starts with mom. I feel like everyone has that time of day where they want something like mid afternoon. You're tired, you want a snack? Maybe something sweet, maybe coffee, just something to reset a little. For me, I try to find something that actually satisfies that without completely throwing off everything else I'm trying to do health wise. That's kind of where cachava fits in. They just launched a coffee flavor and what's interesting is it actually tastes like coffee. Not artificial, not overly sweet. They use decaffeinated Brazilian beans so you get that flavor without it feeling like you're just drinking another cup of caffeine. And at the same time it's still doing what Kachava is known for. It's a whole body nutrition shake. You've got protein, fiber, greens, adaptogens, all the stuff you'd normally have to piece together separately. So instead of grabbing something random, it's more of a controlled way to get that treat feeling while still doing something productive for your body. And it's also just easy. Two scoops. Mix it and you're done. Which honestly is half the battle. Treat yourself to the flavor and nutrition your body craves. Go to kachava.com and use code Danny Austin for 15% off your first order. That's Kachava K A C H A V A dot com code DannyAustin I

[B]

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[A]

Do you remember like six episodes ago when I played you that clip from that, like, Australian guy on Tik Tok, and he was like, the husband's like the concrete wall and the woman is the waves crashing against it and the. The man just needs to. Do you remember that? Yeah, that. I feel like, honestly, Changed my life.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

It was that Tik Tok.

[B]

That's why we love Tik Tok.

[A]

No, it was like. It was like. He was like. Had this, like, Australian accent, and he was like. Yeah. I feel like he taught me that. It's not that your emotions don't matter, it's just that they're gonna, like. Yeah, they're gonna just, like, go. And sometimes the waves are gonna be big, and sometimes they're small, and sometimes it's calm, and you just learn to be sturdy. You have to be sturdy and. Because that's what you want from me.

[B]

Stability. Emotional stability.

[A]

You don't want me to solve them. I spent years trying to solve your emotions, and then I was like, this is like a dog chasing its tail.

[B]

It's. It's. I don't want you to solve them, but I also don't want you to join in. In the ocean with me.

[A]

No. And that's a huge learning lesson.

[B]

That's what you were doing.

[A]

Yes. And then it created so much chaos in our family because, like, you would be, like, wanting to crash against this wall, and I'd be like, yeah, let's crash against this wall. Back to that. We keep talking about this scene, but, like, Zach.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Jen is like, I'm feeling all these things towards Whitney, and Zach's like, yeah, this sucks. And, like, she's.

[B]

She pulled him into the wave of emotion.

[A]

Yes. And he probably loves her so much. He wanted to please her.

[B]

This is. We're talking about Slow Mouse, Secret Lives of Mormon.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That scene where we've talked about it every episode for, like, six episodes.

[A]

It's such a. Like, that episode has so much wisdom packed into it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That it's. It's the most important episode of the entire series.

[B]

Yeah. We don't. Honestly, we talked about it for, like. Like, probably.

[A]

No, we don't. We won't talk about it anymore. But, like, what I'm saying is that, like, I used to get dragged into your emotions. Well, I first tried to solve them,

[B]

but now he just kind of laughs at them sometimes. But not in front of my face because I would literally get so angry.

[A]

But no, I usually just walk away.

[B]

Oh, that's not good.

[A]

No, no, no. Not like. Like, if you're. If you're stressed or anxious instead. It has nothing to do with me. It's not helpful. Like, for you, maybe other wives want this, but, like, you don't want me to help you. Like, you don't want me to solve. Solve it. What you want is for me to be stable whenever you apologize, when you solve it yourself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's just you. Maybe that's not everyone.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But yeah, you just don't. You just kind of ride the waves like a little surfer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Riding the waves.

[B]

I think the best advice is just to be that Steady Eddie for an emotional wife, especially in postpartum, especially in, you know, pregnancies, or just like being a female is emotional. Like, and I think it's. That's how we're wired. And I think men are. Are.

[A]

You know, the other reason I used to take it seriously, and I think this is maybe relatable, is that I used to see your emotions as a reflection of me. So like, what I mean is like, if you were sad, it meant I failed.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

If you were angry personally or frustrated about something, it meant that like, I should have proactively solved a problem for you. And I think I got so stressed in our marriage because I, you know, me, like, I will try really, really hard.

[B]

He's. He's a hands on dude.

[A]

I will try really hard. And I feel like I tried to solve and de. Stress our so much in our lives and it just wasn't working that I just felt resentful because I was like, yeah, failure.

[B]

But it really. Then you learned it had nothing to do with you.

[A]

No. And then I found out that it actually was counterproductive to try and solve things for you because then I'd be. I took away your power to solve things for yourself.

[B]

Yeah, I think. Yeah. Everything you're saying, I echo.

[A]

It's, it's, it's the good. I. We talk about this like my friends talk about this a lot. It's the good husband syndrome. It's the weirdest thing. It's. It's like, I think most guys, at least that I hang out with want to be good husbands. We just have kind of this like counterintuitive knowledge of what that means and looks like a lot of us are like, oh, like, I want to like, take as much stress and pressure off of them. So like, I want to, you know, make sure that she doesn't have to stress about the baby or stress about this. But like you, it's so important sometimes to like, let you figure things out,

[B]

let us stress about the baby because the, that makes the moments that are sweet with the baby so worth it and special, you know? Yeah. There was something that I was going to say about that. Yeah, I really like that advice to men that have wives to really like, you know, try your best to be that stability, emotional stability, and not take everything so serious, because sometimes we feel something so strongly in the moment, and. And then the next day, you're like, you know, I'm over it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, you know, and now if you're still, like. Like, holding on to that emotion that I had the day prior, and I'm. I'm already moved on, then it's just gonna cause, like, so much conflict. The one thing I will say that I feel like we both can get better at is we still kind of struggle, both of us. I'm saying both of us with the silent treatment, like, when we get by each other, like, I'll admit I'm probably the leader in this. I'm like, I'm. I'm not gonna talk to you. Okay. And then I. I'm like, I want you to approach me, but I feel like, you know, I'm like. Sometimes I'm like, I'm the one coming to you, and, you know, being like, okay, we're gonna talk about this. We don't need to go down this rabbit hole. But I'm just saying, I. I bet. I bet it's relatable. I bet a lot of other couples are, like, whenever you get mad at each other, you just quit talking. But then it's like, who's gonna bring the ice? Who's gonna do it? Who's gonna come talk?

[A]

It can go on for days.

[B]

It can go on for days, weeks. And then the worst is, like, we've

[A]

never gone when you, like. It can go when you, like, have

[B]

to talk and be like, is a plumber here yet? And you're, like, still angry. It's like, did you pack? Still a sludge.

[A]

You know, I think that, you know, I don't know how you felt about this, but we were looking at a house recently, and I kept making a quip about, like, who got the best office. And it, like, really?

[B]

Oh, I don't want to talk about. I get. So it really about this.

[A]

But hold on, hold on. It really frustrated Dani. And so we get back in the car, and her mom's with us with, like, Smith, I think, in Stratton. And we get in the car, and I forgot what you had said. You.

[B]

I said, dan. I said, jordan's being a dick.

[A]

Something like that. But it was, like. It was, like, kind of awkward because her mom was there, and, like, you kind of snapped. But I don't think it was even that forward. It was like. It was.

[B]

It was said that behind your back, not to your face.

[A]

It was something like, it was. You said that to the other people?

[B]

No, to my mom.

[A]

Before you got in the car.

[B]

I go transpir the day, dick.

[A]

But like, so. So, okay, I. I would love to unpack this scene. So.

[B]

Well.

[A]

Sorry, hold on, hold on. So we won't talk about the actual. So I made a quip and it made Danny feel like I just like, I threw. Like, I kept making jokes about this office and like, who was going to

[B]

get the office many of times. Like probably over seven times total.

[A]

Yeah. Because we had looked at this house multiple times. So it was like in the total span of three visits. So it, like, really frustrated Danny because you felt like I was laughing at something that you're making a functional decision on.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

This. The context is not as important. So Danny's upset and we get in the car and you don't say, I'm a dick to me. You say something more like, hey, do. Do you need. Do you need to like, be heard on something? Or like, do you need this office? Like, you keep talking about it, but you say in kind of like a firm way. And I'm like, yeah. I was like, oh, she's mad.

[B]

I was live, living.

[A]

So I then say in the car, I go, danny, I was just kidding. And you were like, well, you keep kidding. And so like, you know, so like,

[B]

I'm like, so what? Like, what do you want to say? Just say it.

[A]

Yeah. So then we drive like 20 minutes because we have this other meeting and we're in the car with your mom, so we don't have the space to really, like, work this out in the car. We probably could, but I didn't want to, like, talk about it in the car. But I knew you were about to like, go silent treatment on me. But then we had.

[B]

I had already gone silent treatment on you. We went through chick fil a line. I was like, did she get sauces?

[A]

Yes, but you also. What I felt. So I was processing in this 20 minute drive and I was like, okay. I think she's actually really overwhelmed wondering if this house is the right house. And she's trying to think about a lot of decisions and she is stressed and she feels unappreciated in all the decisions that she's making. So I was telling myself this because I was kind of annoyed that you were annoyed with me. I was like, this is crazy. But then I understood. So then we park and before our meeting, I go, hey, let's make sure this is the right place. And I pulled you out of the car and I was like, she's gonna let me have it. And we walked around the car so we were away from your mom.

[B]

I remember my first sentence. I said, you go, what's on? I go, I feel like you're just not being nice to me.

[A]

Yes. You said that. And. And I go, and I forgot what I said. I. I don't know. You can tell them. I felt like I did really good in this situation.

[B]

You did. I. You.

[A]

It was because I pulled you aside.

[B]

One of your top three moments.

[A]

I think so, too. Thank you for saying that. Because I pulled you aside. I took my sunglasses off.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Put them on my head so that you could see my eyes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And then I was like, hey, like, what's wrong? And then you started crying, and you said, you're not being nice to me. And I could have easily argued with you and been like, I was just kidding. Like, why are you upset? But I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. Like, I won't make any more jokes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I. And then you were like. I was like, I know that you're probably really overwhelmed. I know that you have a lot of decisions to make. I know this is a really important meeting after, so, like, why don't we just be good? And then, like, you go to your meeting and if you still don't feel good afterwards, like, we'll still talk about it. And you didn't say, like, okay, thank you. And then I, like, gave you a hug. And then you got my. Yeah, you decompressed and then you did the meeting and you felt so much better after the meeting. And then it was like, it was, bye, bye.

[B]

You did so great there.

[A]

I've play by play. I thought that was a good one. You did, but it was a great

[B]

example because it would have really gone south otherwise.

[A]

No. And that meeting would have sucked.

[B]

Sucked balls.

[A]

Sucked balls, dude. And I was like. And then she's got. And it would have compounded because then you would have been mad at me and been like, if you weren't such a dick dick before the meeting, then, like, I could have had a good

[B]

meeting and I would have picked. Yeah.

[A]

I knew I had to nip it in the bud and just follow my sword.

[B]

I appreciate that, but it's a great

[A]

example of, like, you weren't really mad at me, were you?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, okay. Well, then my understanding of women is actually.

[B]

No, I confused. No, I. I will say I was probably, like, 30, mad at you. 70, overwhelmed.

[A]

That's what I thought.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because even when you got in the car backed in the car. Your mom knew. Your mom probably thought I did great, too, but your mom.

[B]

I think my mom kind of agreed with me a little bit that I

[A]

was being a dick.

[B]

A little bit. And she never agrees with me about anything.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know what I was doing to be.

[B]

I think maybe. I think it wasn't that she thought you were being a dick. Sorry. This is. We don't usually talk like this. I only use this word when it's really. When it's really serious.

[A]

Yeah, it's like the arrow she keeps in her quiver.

[B]

Like, if I pull up the D word, so. Because I used to call it dick mode, but now I just call you dick.

[A]

What?

[B]

But no. Okay, so this is the situation. I think that you also didn't see a lot of the moments while we were looking at this house. But I had Smith with me. It was a very overwhelming situation that I was just in with all these people. And you would. You would leave and go be on a phone call, which is fine. I know you're busy and working and stuff. But then, like, I'm having to, like, talk to these people. Like, we couldn't find a bottle. We couldn't find formula. I'm, like, in a room with, like, all these men. I, like, would have to be like, hey, can you all leave so I could whip out the boob? I don't know if you even knew, like, it was, like, a very, like, stressful situation, but at the same time, I'm having to, like, be on. And I think my mom just felt for me, like, I think she felt. She knew how overwhelmed and stressful it was. And so I think just, like. I don't know, just some of the conversations we had, I feel like, were like, Yeah, I just felt like you weren't being very nice or sensitive to that. And then, like, the jokes about the. The office or jokes about this or that, like, it was just adding on top of the overwhelm and stress. And I think my mom felt that. And she was like.

[A]

She felt the eggshells. And she was like, jordan, you're walking on him.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And she was like, jordan, like, you need to, like, chill out probably a little bit, because Danny's like, there's a lot. You know, And I think she probably. But I don't think she was like, oh, Jordan's being like a dick. I think she just was like, oh, I feel for Danny. And maybe Jordan's not being sensitive to Danny.

[A]

Yeah, I probably. Because I missed almost all of that, Like, I kind of was.

[B]

Like, you would come in and then you would have, like, your opinion, but then you would leave and, like, miss out on all the stress. And I think that's where she kind of felt for me, was like, you got to come in and say what you wanted without experiencing, like, the chaos.

[A]

Well, I also. That makes sense. But I also didn't really feel like. I felt like you were in command mode.

[B]

Well, because I had to be, because you were out taking phone calls or whatever. Like, I had to be there.

[A]

I started taking phone calls and disappearing because I was like, I don't feel like I'm valuable here.

[B]

Maybe both can be true. Even being there with, like, our two small children is valuable. Like, helping.

[A]

Well, I had Stratton with me.

[B]

Yeah. Anyway, we don't have to unpack this, but. Yeah. So I think it's the one time my mom has ever agreed with me in my life. So let's just take it out of that.

[A]

Well, she probably felt like. Because I don't think I understand when walking through a home or designing a home.

[B]

We're not designing a home. But I wish you were designing a

[A]

home or making decisions for if a home is good. I don't think I really understand what goes through the female psyche, but it's. It's a lot. It's overwhelming because you're not just thinking, like, oh, cool room.

[B]

Like, it's pretty. Oh.

[A]

You're like, hey, like, functionally, this needs to be there. So when I'm like, hey, can we have a pizza maker here? You're like, Jordan. You're like, can you just stop right now?

[B]

Our children don't have a place to sleep in this house. Could we not talk about a pizza oven?

[A]

You know? Yeah, right? Or like, I don't give a crap about your reading nook.

[B]

I'm like, where are our kids gonna put their dirty shoes when they come home from practice?

[A]

It's hard for me because you're like, what if we had a double decker closet with a spiral staircase?

[B]

Well, you know, that was the last thing we talked about.

[A]

I know, but it's just.

[B]

So I saved it for the end.

[A]

No, I know. I know. For sure.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You're right. You're right.

[B]

I know. Thank you. So, yeah, we haven't even really gotten to the fact that we did go to Nashville. We are still considering Nashville. Like, we've had some interesting, like, I don't know, like, God moments where we felt very called to Nashville. We've been praying about it a lot.

[A]

There was an angel that came up to.

[B]

An angel appeared.

[A]

An angel appeared at Jason's Deli. Jason's Deli, in the form of this probably 80 year old woman.

[B]

Grandma.

[A]

Grandma. And she came.

[B]

Let's be honest, everybody there that day was 75 plus, except for us. It was amazing.

[A]

And she came up to us and she told us, we just want. I want y' all to know that God is proud of y'. All.

[B]

I know.

[A]

And it could have not been a real person. It could have been an angel.

[B]

I think she was probably real because she was with her daughter. Unless they're both angels. I mean, you never know.

[A]

The other thing about Nashville, I will say, is it's the craziest place where if you're carrying a baby, the general population is so invested in babies.

[B]

They love them.

[A]

The TSA agents are like, sweetest baby ever.

[B]

They're. They're. They're like. They're just so. It's very family oriented.

[A]

There was this New Yorker in front of us in the TSA line, and she was like, that would never happen in New York. And I go, this would never happen in Dallas.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, they all just were like, you're a mom and a dad. How can we support you?

[B]

Yeah. Because she came up to us and was like, God's proud of you and he loves you and you have. He gave you those four little blessings. We're like, oh, should we move here? Yeah. So we've been like, really, really on the Nashville train. And, you know, we applied to a bunch of schools in Dallas and that didn't go great. So we're just like, it's because Danny

[A]

posted her side boot.

[B]

You know, I'm a little.

[A]

She posted her side boo. A little controversial in a maternity photo. And you did it. You did it on bid day. You. You did.

[B]

No, we did. On the day that we were supposed to submit applications for private school, we

[A]

probably had a lot of yeses. And then you posted that photo and they were like, absolutely not.

[B]

It's. It could be the side poop that is keeping us back.

[A]

It actually was a little bit. I remember the one school that we really wanted was like, a sweet Christian school.

[B]

Christians don't really like us.

[A]

Christians just don't like social media. All, like, what we do is, like, the antithesis of what they stand for.

[B]

Not all of them.

[A]

Not all of them, but a lot of them.

[B]

Maybe the Dallas Christian.

[A]

The Dallas Christian culture, but we actually didn't get into this, like, sweet Christian private school. And then you posted the side boob picture. And I think it was a little bit of like, fine, you don't want

[B]

me, here's gonna be me. I love it. I loved it.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like keeping everyone on the same page as a family is harder than it should be. Between schedules, school stuff, work, random plans, it's a lot to keep track of. And usually it lives in like five different places. That's why something like Skylight actually makes sense. It's basically a shared digital calendar that lives in your home, so everyone can see what's going on at a glance instead of constantly asking what's happening today or what time is that? It's just there. What I like is it's simple. You can sync it with your phone calendar, add events, color, code, things, and it updates in real time so everyone stays aligned without having to think about it. It's also helpful for kids because they can actually see the schedule too, instead of relying on someone to tell them what's happening. And anything that reduces friction in a household is worth it. If you've been listening to our podcast, you've also heard that we've been using their chore chart feature for our kids. It's been an absolute game changer. The kids can check off their chores on the calendar and work towards earning their stars for rewards.

[B]

It's.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Well, it's just very like. I mean, you were talking about this and say what you said, like, in Jason's deli.

[B]

Oh, man, that was like, two days ago. I can't remember. Okay.

[A]

What she was saying was. She was saying, like, and this is what I've always felt about maybe any place outside of Dallas is. Is the actual thing, but I've always felt this specifically about Nashville is like, when you're there, the. The culture so different that you can kind of just like. Like, you don't have to, like, like, no one's sizing you up based on trying to figure out what's your net worth or, like, who do you work for or how are you valuable? To me, it's just kind of like everyone just sort of like, is. And people are successful there, but it's just this weird, different dynamic. And I told Danny, I go, hey, listen, when we land back in Dallas, I want you to compare and contrast, like, how you feel here. Because you said something like, I feel like I can just, like, be here. Like, I don't need to be something. I can just be.

[B]

It's so crazy because, like, I know that people. We've been talking about this so long on the podcast, but I felt like this last trip, I actually experienced that feeling in Nashville. Just I think it's probably because I, like, met and conversed and hung out with a lot more people. And, like, everybody there, first of all, is cool. Like, everybody's, like, doing amazing, cool things, and it's like everybody's doing them because they love them, not because they were pressured to do it because they were born into that family, or they feel like they have to fit in, or they feel like they had to go to this special school. And Dallas has this culture of just making you feel less than if you weren't a part of that. And I'm talking about Dallas Now. The suburbs of Dallas are great. Like, I was. You know what I mean? Like, suburbs are. Suburbs are totally different than, like, a main city. Um, but, like, Dallas. Dallas culture is. Is very much that. Like, you. The way that you become, like, successful. It's. It's all who you know. It's all who you know. It's like. And sometimes that can just like, really wear you out, where you just feel like. It's. It's like, man, I'm gonna have to, like, hustle my entire life to be able to, like, you know. You know, get what we want.

[A]

And which, to be clear, we did.

[B]

We did. And, like, even, you know, whether. Even, like, private schools and stuff. Like, I feel like we had a hard time with some of the schools because we. We both didn't go to a private school. When I feel like in Nashville, they don't care about that. Like, I feel like they were just like, are you good people? What are your values? How do you want to raise your family? And I really felt like they were, like, looking at us, not, like. Like, our backgrounds or our parents or whatever. And it felt like they really wanted, like, Danny and Jordan, you know, and outside of social media, because there's another thing. There's so many, like, celebrities and, like, artists and famous people that moved to Nashville that, like, we're nothing special there. You know what I mean? So nobody wants to use you, because everybody is already kind of made it. It's like, they just genuinely want the best for you, and they want to surround themselves and their families around good people, too. And I'm not saying that you can't find that in every city in the world, even New York City. So sometimes I just feel like maybe it's a little bit more work to find that, you know?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In Nashville, it felt like less work. And, you know, like, I have a hard time. It's a. I have a hard time with four kids really putting in that work. And I love our community here. That's, like, the one thing that, like, makes me so sad. If we ever moved like, that, we would leave. But that took a. That took years, years to build that community.

[A]

Well, and I tell people, too, Like, I think that we're at this, like, tipping point with all of our friendships where it's like, everyone's going to start going to different schools. I know everyone's Gonna, like, move to probably different suburbs. And so it's kind of like a very interesting new chapter for probably all of our community, if I'm being honest. Like, we were the only ones with kids when we first had this community, which means that everyone is really flexible around us now. Everyone has, like two or three kids, so we only see them.

[B]

I think that's just a normal kind of transition in life. Everyone, like, you start hanging out with who your kids go to school with.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And that just happens. And so if you. If your kids. If you're friends with a family and your kids don't go to school together, you can still stay close. It's just gonna take work. Like, you're gonna plan trips together, plan 4th of July together, plan memorial. It's not gonna be like, oh, I'll see you Tuesday after work. It's like, or at school, pickup. No, you won't. You won't, because you have to go to the same school for that to. Or, you know, to see each other. So. So, yeah, I don't know. I felt different about Nashville than I did. And I. And it's like, I don't know, maybe I didn't realize how much Dallas sometimes does drain me a little bit until I got there. But, you know, that's because I also allow it to drain me. You know, it's not like everybody struggles with that because let's. Let's be real. Dallas is an amazing, amazing place to raise, for sure.

[A]

No, it's like, like you've always said, it's like, it's not a. It's not a place problem. It's just like, I think cultural alignment is important, and I think every city has a different culture. I think that Dallas is probably more akin to, like, New York, L.A. i've. I felt the same in Aspen, like, because there's just so much wealth there. Like, I felt like everyone was, like, dressed up and, you know, it's a little bit more like low key in Aspen. But, like, when you get into these places, everyone is so successful that there's just this natural comparison that you feel. And I. I feel like where we were getting. Where I was. I think I was a couple months ahead of you and realizing all this. But, like, I felt like we were getting. Is like, we have all these, like, awards that you were talking about, and I'm like, like, do we. Do we have to have more? Like, Like, I don't. I don't want more. That's a lot of work. Like, and it's like, I think that we thought maybe. I just thought, like, happiness was at the top of this mountain. Then I was like, I got to the top of the mountain, and then it was like, oh, no, there's another mountain. And then there's another, and then there's another. And I don't really want to traverse the next summit. I just want to, like, be content.

[B]

I know. That's why I'm gonna get some horses.

[A]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[B]

The only thing is, I don't really know where to begin with that, you know? Like, how do you do that? I need to find somebody, like, a friend that has horses or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Maybe they could teach me.

[A]

You can.

[B]

About them.

[A]

Jason's Deli.

[B]

Just ask around Jason's Deli. Those ladies, they have horses for sure. 100.

[A]

100.

[B]

The only thing about Nashville is they don't really believe in sidewalks.

[A]

They really don't like sidewalks.

[B]

It's there. I've never seen anything discriminated against as much as sidewalks in Nashville.

[A]

Very bad urban planning.

[B]

Very.

[A]

They were not. They were like, hey, we're country. We're going to be country forever. And they didn't realize they were not going to be country forever.

[B]

They were not ready.

[A]

That is kind of, like, very contradictory. As many kids as people have out there, no sidewalks.

[B]

I know, but, you know. Oh, you know what I just thought about?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Maybe that's why everybody has such close family units, because they can't go anywhere. They have to hang out with their siblings. That's fine, but it's insane. That's why they're also close with their siblings, because they didn't. They couldn't just ride their bike over to their friend's house because they're basically riding on a highway.

[A]

Really good thought. It's a really interesting thought.

[B]

Oh, I've been doing this new thing lately. I haven't told you.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

So, first of all, when we pray at night with the kids, I've been really trying to

[A]

pray for a bubble of protection.

[B]

No, I like bubbles of protection, too, but Binding Satan. Binding Satan. I like that one as well. And I pray for angels. I was like, so those are. I got those in the bag. What I've really been praying about is, like, our family unit and, like, teaching our kids that besides the relationship with God, like, they know number one, most important thing is family and your siblings. Like, because I feel like that's a huge miss that some parents forget. Like, you sometimes forget to, like, teach your kids that you're on the same team. And, like, if one person feels you all fail. Or, like, how important it is to stick up for each other or to be there for each other. Because, like, we. I know we're gonna fight, but, like, at the same time, like, your siblings are your number one. Because your mommy and daddy, we're gonna pass away one day sooner than y'. All. Like, y' all are gonna have each other, and we're not gonna always be there. And so I've been really trying to, like, teach, and it's been working. So, like, the other day, Stella had a baggie full of jelly beans, and she asked if I could. She could have some. And I was like, yeah, you can have five. Cause you're five years old, and she had five. And so then Stratton came in the room, of course, and she's, like, chewing the jelly beans and shot. And, like, I want some. I want some. And I'm like, stratton, those are Stella's jelly beans. And he starts throwing a fit and, like, going crazy. And Stella goes over and goes, here, Bubba. You know what? It's your birthday, so you can have four. And, like. And so she gives him four, but he's upset because he doesn't like the colors. So he starts throwing another fit, and he's like, I don't like the colors. I wanted red. I wanted blue, Bubba. And she goes. She looks at me and she goes, here, Bubba, you can have the whole bag. It's. Cause it's your birthday. And gave her the whole. Gave him the whole bag.

[A]

Did you ask her if she liked the jelly beans?

[B]

No, she liked them. She was eating them.

[A]

Oh, she did?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because I could tell her she's very good at being like, I actually don't want this toy, so here's this.

[B]

No, I. I know what you're talking about. And she does do that a lot. But she. She's been begging me every single day if she could have more of those jelly beans.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

She gave it to him. I promise. I believe she's been doing stuff like that. Like, and then this morning, she got dressed, and I always put stuff on her. You know, her pick out her outfit. But she hates. Whenever I pick. Pick dresses that have zippers. Well, she had Bubba slip zip up her dress for her. That's so sweet, so precious. But no, like, and. And so, like, whenever I talk about, like, our family unit, they get. I'll, like, do, like a. Get us, like, in a huddle kind of like before, like, a soccer game or something. And they love it. And they're like. If they're like, if somebody messes with mommy, then Bubba has her. Her back. If somebody messes with me, then Bubba has my back. If somebody messes with daddy, then Mommy has Daddy's back. And, like, they've been, like, talking about it and, like, reiterating it to me and it's like working.

[A]

No, babe, you're so good at this stuff.

[B]

I know.

[A]

You're so good.

[B]

I'm. I know.

[A]

Live in it. Do it. That's why I married you. Amazing mother. I love it.

[B]

It's so cute. You know, something I've been wanting to talk about is, did you hear about this new secret? This new slow mo oc?

[A]

Yeah. They're gonna try and franchise it like the Housewives, right?

[B]

Yes. There's so many lgs everywhere. They could do Utah.

[A]

What?

[B]

California.

[A]

But it wasn't Aspen over or not.

[B]

She married Parker, who was lds.

[A]

Oh, he was lds.

[B]

Yeah. So she's like. She definitely, like, deserves to be on the show.

[A]

You know what I'm going to tell

[B]

you, it's going to be.

[A]

The Mormon Church is not happy right now.

[B]

They.

[A]

They love their image. They love. They've got some great PR teams. They do not like this. The two things they don't like, the Book of Mormon Broadway show and the Secret Life of Mormon Wife. Yeah, for sure.

[B]

But, you know, like every, you know, the Catholic Church, Church, they took some hits. You know, the Protestant church took some hits with all those.

[A]

Something about Mormons that people really like to just like, ding them.

[B]

Well, because it's so interesting. So different.

[A]

It's different. Yeah.

[B]

But I guess so is Catholicism and everything, you know, But. No, but it's, it's. It is. It's interesting. It's like, it's more of like a bubble that.

[A]

It's also like new.

[B]

It's newer. Yeah.

[A]

Right. But very prominent.

[B]

Yeah. Very growing. I think it's like one of the fastest grows growing religions in the United States of America. Yeah. So I, I genuinely think it will be a better season. Better. Better than the other one, you think? Oh, 1,000%. I mean, you got Aspen Ovard, who's part of. She's a throuple. She's in a thruffle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know that Madison Bontempo with the world's cutest children? Besides my own.

[A]

Dude, her kids are beautiful children.

[B]

They're just those blue eyes.

[A]

It's crazy. Yeah, they're like baby models.

[B]

Little baby models. She's. She's really sweet. You got Avery woods, which she's kind of like.

[A]

People love to hate her.

[B]

Well, okay. So we sat next to a girl on an airplane who just, like, on the way home from Nashville who was like, you know, she just. We, you know, we were just talking, having conversation, and she had just gone on farmer wants a wife or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, she started opening up about, like, all the shows that she likes and doesn't like and all the influencers she loves and doesn't love. She had a big thing against Xavier Woods, I think. So I'm not a huge. Like, I. I, like, text Xavier woods, like, or not. Like, we're sorry. I don't text her like, we're friends, like, but I'm like, I have her number and I've texted her about, like, a giveaway or, like, this or that. But we're not. Like, I don't know her at all, but. And I don't keep up with all of her stories or her posts or anything, but I think what the culture around Avery woods is that she was a nurse married to a police officer, and then has now, like, exploded, and people are in, like, she has this, like, new beautiful house, and she's, like, smoking hot now and very sexy, you know? And I think people kind of miss the old relatable Avery woods, which just kind of happens to, like, every influencer. Like, you love them because they're so, like, humble, and they're just like you, and they're so real, and then they, like, explode. And now it's like, who is this person?

[A]

It's such an interesting, like, fork in the road in the influencer career, because I think two things happen. So, like, you start out super relatable, creating content from your bedroom. Right. But then there's so much money in this industry. You start making money, and people either go one of two ways. They either lean into. I need to show less of my life and be more private and convince my audience that I'm still relatable. The example of this is, like, showing off your Walmart bag, but then, like, having the designer bag walk in dinner. Yeah. So it's like, that's an example. But I think that that creates, like, this weird rift in people because you're not authentic. So you're kind of, like, living this character.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's supposed to be a real, relatable, authentic. And the Internet is so smart. They, like, know. Yeah, they somehow know. So. So some people take that path and they're like, you know, I'm just gonna, like, not be myself. I'm gonna be relatable version. And then others lean into it, and they're like, I do have wealth now. I. I am different. All that. And I feel like that's what Avery's doing, and so she's kind of doubling down. Yeah, she's owning it. And I feel like her confidence makes people really uncomfortable.

[B]

But I. I kind of love her confidence. I love when people are just who they want to be and they don't hide it. But I also think there's another, like, road that you can take is no matter, like, who you are, how successful you are, how famous you are, like, I guess, like, Alex Earl is a good example. You're still always going to have struggles, and, like, you're still always going to find ways. There's always ways to be relatable, because an emotion is an emotion is an emotion. Like, you can have everything in the world and still feel depression or you can have. Which is the same thing as, like, some. The average Joe living across the street. You know, like, everybody can kind of experience like, like, similar things. And so there's also a path where, like, you can, you know, get all the awards, do all these, but still kind of be real about, like, what's going on.

[A]

And my opinion, that's harder. It's the hardest path to take. And it's.

[B]

People are like. People like, world smallest violin.

[A]

No, no, no. Not. No. I don't think it even. I would say that you did this well, right? I would say Alex Earl's doing this well. Where they, like, remain like, they're. The context of their life changes and their environment changes and their wealth changes, but they don't change. And so people follow them along the changes and are actually happy for them throughout those changes. In my opinion, the only way that you accomplish that path is you. And you can't fake this. You have to be genuinely humble as a person.

[B]

You had to go through some puberty, probably.

[A]

You had to, like, go through some trial or conflict in your life that, like, made it to where you know that you don't deserve what you're being given. And it probably was luck of the draw, and, like, you're grateful and people see that. And I think that with Avery, she. Her. Her status changed so drastically. Like, I didn't even know she was a barista at Starbucks and then a nurse, and then, you know, marriage, met her husband. It all happens so fast. And I think we struggled with this, too. It all. It's like, boom. Like, over, like, three years. It changes so rapidly that I think, like, she'll.

[B]

It's almost like you make the full cycle.

[A]

You She'll.

[B]

Yeah, everybody has.

[A]

She'll come around and honestly, the Internet's so flippant. They'll love her tomorrow.

[B]

So true.

[A]

She's going to go on the show, and then everyone's going to be like, I hate her. I love her. I laid her. Love her.

[B]

Yeah, I like her, but I like

[A]

that she's confident in doubling down. She's like it. Even if people don't like where she's at, she's at least being honest about it.

[B]

So true. This is what they do these days.

[A]

Who doesn't?

[B]

Gen Z. Oh. It's like, yes, Queen. It's kind of like one of those things. Yeah, it's kind of like.

[A]

It's kind of like. But like.

[B]

But like, it's like, you know, we used to do this, and now it's like, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's like. Okay, I got it. Okay. Let's go get Chipotle.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

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[A]

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