B (1:51)

the world did you get that gig?

A (1:55)

You know, I used to work for an agency. Do you remember Dawson?

B (1:58)

Yeah, they're still around. She's killing it.

A (2:02)

Yeah, no, she's. She's great. That's where I got my start. And she said they were looking for a co host and you want to go try out? And I was like, okay. And I went. And believe it or not, I got it.

B (2:16)

So you tried out for it.

A (2:17)

Yeah. You tried out for it. You just had to sit there and. And you know what's crazy about it? You had to wing it. It was all like.

B (2:24)

Yeah, because it's conversation.

A (2:25)

Yeah. It was very. And I was not very good at it, but Bill Mack was so good at just bringing up these topics and I was just. I had a lot of energy. That's why I got the gig.

B (2:36)

I'm gonna Google it and see if it comes up.

A (2:37)

Oh, my gosh, please.

B (2:39)

I don't know.

A (2:40)

I still have the tapes from those and I have to tell you, I cringe when I listen and watch them.

B (2:45)

Bill Mack. Okay, let's.

A (2:47)

Country Crossroads is the name. Gosh. Yeah.

B (2:51)

Okay, wait, Bill Mack, Country.

A (2:53)

I put Country Crossroads.

B (2:55)

Oh, wow.

A (2:56)

Oh, is it there?

B (2:59)

He passed away in 2020.

A (3:02)

Yeah. He was older than I was and I was a young.

B (3:05)

He looked like a sweet baby.

A (3:06)

Oh, he was amazing.

B (3:07)

It says, Bill Mack, 1929-2020, was a Grammy winning country sing songwriter and legendary radio DJ known as the Midnight Cowboy. Primarily broadcasting in Fort Worth. Famous for writing Leanne's rhyme. Hit. Or Leanne rhymes. Hit Blue. And George Straits drinking champagne.

A (3:27)

Yep, yep.

B (3:28)

I will tell a big deal.

A (3:29)

And we used to interview country music artists and stuff, and it was pretty cool. You know, that was back in the day when I wasn't even a big country music fan until I started doing that.

B (3:39)

So. So, okay, so you started doing that, but you were. I feel like this is like another part of your life. Like, do I know nothing?

A (3:46)

You have so many parts of your life you don't know about.

B (3:49)

Well, I did find out that you were married previously when I was 21 years old, mind you. Which we'll get into that because that was crazy.

A (3:57)

That was a whole lifetime away.

B (3:59)

Okay, but before we get into all of the stories, let's. Let's back up a little bit. Okay. So your name was Anna Marie Austin, but you were actually Ramirez.

A (4:09)

Well, it. Yes.

B (4:10)

Your maiden is. Maiden name is Ramirez, which is so funny that I married a Ramirez, but we're not related.

A (4:18)

It was actually a little scary when you told me that you first met Jordan. And I'll never forget you said, you know, mom, I met this guy and he is so cool. Like, I don't know, I just think he's amazing. And I said, well, Danny, that's amazing. She goes, the only thing is I don't really like his last name. I go, what is it? And you go, ramirez. And I went, that's my maiden name.

B (4:39)

I knew obviously your main. That's why I replied to his message, because I thought maybe he was like a cousin or something.

A (4:47)

Well, exactly. That's what I.

B (4:48)

Because I don't have any like, like white cousins, like, you know, on your side of the family. And so I thought white cousins. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like, I look different than that.

A (5:01)

Yes, I know.

B (5:02)

And they always called me the white girl.

A (5:03)

Yeah.

B (5:04)

When I would go to San Antonio but anyway, so he was a Ramirez and I was like a cousin that looks like me, like, and I, I literally thought he was like a cousin because we have cousins sprouting up everywhere, you know. Yeah, they're all over the place. And so. But luckily, no, it was just another Ramirez. Out of the hundreds of thousands, millions of Ramirez is out there.

A (5:24)

It's like Smith.

B (5:25)

It's like. And, and so funny is Jordan's mom's meeting name is Smith. So, like, we just have like the most basic.

A (5:31)

We have the most common Hispanic name and the most common white name in Smith.

B (5:36)

But yeah, but anyway, so, yeah, so that's your name. But the biggest question that we get is why do you go by Tornado?

A (5:43)

Well, thanks to you, I started calling her Tornado.

B (5:47)

Actually, I think it's because dad used to call me the Tornado.

A (5:50)

Yeah, Tornado.

B (5:52)

He always used to call me Tornado. The Tornadoes here, like, I just come in the room with, like, you know.

A (5:55)

Well, you and I have the same energy. Duh.

B (5:58)

Yeah.

A (5:58)

And so you started saying. You started calling me Tornado and you said, hey, you're going to be Tornado Mom. And I was like, wait a minute, I'm not destructive.

B (6:07)

Yeah.

A (6:07)

And you're like, no, you just got a lot of energy.

B (6:09)

Because she comes in a room and kind of like a tornado. It's like everything starts to be cleaned every. And that's starting. That's not what a tornado does. But a tornado just kind of comes unexpectedly. That was more the vibe of the tornado.

A (6:20)

Are you saying I showed up unannounced a lot?

B (6:22)

No, it wasn't like that. It was like, I knew you were coming over, but you never knew where she was going to go, what she was going to get into. And so, like, she comes over and it's like she will fixate on, like, wow, all of the air purifiers in your house are so dirty. Let me go clean them completely out, bring them to the, to the garage, start watering the knot. And I'm like, literally, like, honestly, it's so helpful and it's so great, but it actually ends up being like, more of a mess at the end of it because it's like, now we have to deal with the air purifiers.

A (6:54)

I'm telling you, there's so many things when I come over here, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I cannot believe they have not done this. And I literally.

B (7:02)

What are some of the things?

A (7:03)

Well, first of all, the air purif fires that were turning your walls black.

B (7:08)

Y', all our walls are literally Black.

A (7:10)

Because when I would come over, I literally would have allergies. I. I would allergy. My voice would change. Maybe that's why it's like this.

B (7:17)

Why?

A (7:18)

Because I'm over here so much and why you get sick a lot.

B (7:20)

I also have four children that are.

A (7:22)

Yeah, that's true.

B (7:23)

But no, I. It honestly could be. I was not. If you listen to the podcast, I was not an advocate for the air purifiers. One, they're loud. Two, they're ugly. Three, Jordan put them in them in every single room. And they. They bring blacks. Like it. It literally colored all our wives black. It's permanent. And ruined all of my drapes. Because if not. Because we didn't. He never changed out the filter. And I didn't know you had to change the filter because I wasn't the one that bought them.

A (7:50)

Well, this is the thing I've noticed about Jordan. When Jordan does something, he goes all in. And I'm like going, or is it out or in? He goes both.

B (7:57)

All in. All out.

A (7:58)

And so when I saw those purifiers, not only did he have one or two or three, but he had like four or five, like in every room. And they're massive.

B (8:07)

No, mom, you don't. Mom, you don't even know this. I. I got rid of like four of them.

A (8:12)

No, you didn't.

B (8:13)

Some of the rooms, he had them double there. Yeah, I was like, he literally thought he was sucking demons out of the, out of the room. Like, I, I was like. And I was like, jordan, because I came home one day and they. There were boxes in the dining room, like to the ceiling. And I was like, jordan, no. And he's like, this is going to save our home. So then I did a little bit of research and I was like, you only need like one or two for the whole downstairs. And then maybe one or two, but he bought one for every single room in the house.

A (8:39)

Here's the problem with that. There's maintenances go that goes with it. You've got to replace filters. I know you don't. That's why I come over and have to fix everything.

B (8:49)

What else? Cuz I want to see if you will bring up the one that's been bothering me. What else? Around our house. You come over and you're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe they haven't done that.

A (8:57)

Oh, I mean, there's so many things like your patio outside. Oh, drove me crazy.

B (9:02)

Tell us more.

A (9:02)

I had to clean all the cushions in the backyard.

B (9:05)

It's Disgusting.

A (9:06)

Yeah, I mean, there's. There's a lot of things.

B (9:08)

Okay, tell me more. It's okay. It doesn't hurt my feelings.

A (9:10)

No, I don't want to go through the whole checklist because.

B (9:12)

Yeah, okay. What about.

A (9:14)

What?

B (9:15)

Okay, the bushes in our front.

A (9:17)

Oh, no. Okay, the tree in our front. I have to tell you, there is a tree in your front yard that's touching the ground that is literally touching the ground. And I'm like, why do they not get out there? And, like, every time I. I come over here, I always forget to bring my little clippers, but I swear I'm right.

B (9:34)

Now, let's order one.

A (9:35)

Well, go ahead. Go for it. I will do it. I don't understand why y' all don't do it. That tree is literally touching the ground.

B (9:41)

It's so hard because there's, like, so many other That I have to do that. Like, I'm like. I'm not thinking about the trees in my front yard or my landscape.

A (9:49)

I don't think either one of y' all have that sort of gene in you to, like, do maintenance.

B (9:56)

Totally. I don't, like. I love cleaning and organizing.

A (9:58)

How is that possible? Because, like, that's all I do. And you, like, you picked up none of that from me, but I love it. You don't like to garden. You do clean, but I don't know. There's just not.

B (10:09)

Like, I love to clean and organize and, like, get. But I've always loved to do that.

A (10:13)

Yeah, but I used to ask your friends, when they would come over, you'd be in your room, and I'd hear you, and I'd. And you'd go, you want to help me organize my drawers? And the girls would go, no, not really.

B (10:25)

It's true. Their moms. Their moms would get mad at me. Yeah. But no, I. I like to, like, keep a home that's, like, tidy, you know? So I like cleaning and that type of thing. But, yeah, like, when I have to go. And I like building things, but when I have to, like, go fix, like, a faucet or something or, like, a leak, I'm like, well, then who does it? Nobody. And then it just, like, doesn't get done.

A (10:49)

I do it when I come over.

B (10:50)

Yeah.

A (10:51)

Okay. Well, that's. Okay. So now we know I'm a tornado. I have a question for you. I want to hear what it's like to be a mother of four right now, because you know what? It's so amazing for me to see you as a mom with Four. Four kids. And not only that, but, like, the experience I had with you when you had the baby. Oh, my goodness. Like, I know that I knew that you had it in you, but, like, to actually watch it, it was like, wow. It was like. I was so. I was so impressed and in awe.

B (11:23)

Really? Most. Most people online were not impressed. Really?

A (11:27)

Why?

B (11:27)

Because I think they thought I was, like, a wuss or something.

A (11:30)

Really?

B (11:31)

Yeah.

A (11:31)

Oh, yeah.

B (11:32)

They thought I was.

A (11:32)

Let them try to. Yeah, let them try to do it and we'll talk.

B (11:36)

Yeah. It's so funny because, like, I consider myself pretty tough.

A (11:41)

Maybe I think you're pretty. I think you're pretty tough. I think, you know, maybe not as

B (11:47)

tough as I thought I was, you know, Like, I.

A (11:50)

You had two babies unmedicated. That's pretty darn tough, you know?

B (11:53)

I know, but. But, like. But the way that I handled it was so much worse.

A (12:00)

What's. What's the right way to handle having a baby?

B (12:03)

I don't know.

A (12:03)

I just come out of your hoo.

B (12:04)

Ha. You know what? I.

A (12:05)

It's the size of a watermelon. Like, seriously, you know, like, how are you supposed to act?

B (12:10)

I think that I've realized that some people. Okay. Like, for example, when I am cooking, like, I always, you know, I make my kids these egg, bacon, and cheese burritos every morning. And so many times, like, I'll accidentally touch, like, the pan when it's hot. Some people are like, an internal.

A (12:27)

Yeah.

B (12:29)

I'm like, ow.

A (12:30)

Really?

B (12:30)

I'm always like an external, you know, Ow. Like, I always talk out loud. Like, I process out loud. Like, I'm like, yeah, you know what? So I think that's also why I. That's how I dealt with my pain.

A (12:42)

It was okay, but I have a question for you.

B (12:44)

It was external, not internal.

A (12:45)

I think we all do that. I mean, if I get burned, I'm going to probably go or say something I probably shouldn't say, but. Have you ever noticed how guys have no pain tolerance? Like, Mark, I'll take a tortilla that I'm warming up.

B (12:59)

He touches it and he touches.

A (13:00)

He's like, ah. Like, so it's not even that hot.

B (13:03)

No. I'm like, that happens all the time.

A (13:05)

What is it with guys? They cannot. They can't handle any amount of pain at all.

B (13:10)

But then they also, like, punch each other in the face. It's so weird.

A (13:13)

Yeah, it is kind of weird, you

B (13:15)

know, and they live to, like. They live to, like, roughhouse. And I'm like, that doesn't like, seem

A (13:18)

sound fun at all, but girls are so much stronger.

B (13:20)

I agree.

A (13:21)

You know, as far as pain tolerance goes. So.

B (13:24)

Anyway, anyway, yeah, it was. It was a very special moment. It's so funny because I. I think the second time I did it, it was a lot more challenging, which you would think because I'd already done it before. Yeah, Like, I don't know. This one was just a lot more challenging, but it was like, this postpartum has. Has been really good. Both of my postpartums with unmedicated births have been really good. Because I feel like it starts the whole, like, I'm not gonna do what everybody else is just telling me to do. I'm gonna, like, actually take control of motherhood and do what feels good and what feels right. Maybe not feels good, I don't feel good, but, like, what feels right.

A (14:03)

Yeah.

B (14:03)

And so then you just do everything more by, like, gut and instinct than you do because, oh, everybody else is just doing it. Like, I've literally the past two weeks, been considering homeschooling my children.

A (14:14)

Oh, my gosh. I think you should do that.

B (14:17)

Me too. Hands down, I'm so sick of just,

A (14:21)

like, the world, you know? I know.

C (14:23)

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B (15:38)

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A (17:07)

do you find yourself beyond you physically having these babies? Like, do you ever look at yourself now that you're the mama and you're sort of, you know, guiding them, protecting them? Do you ever find yourself saying or doing things that I did to you

B (17:26)

all the time or. Or if I didn't like it, I do the opposite.

A (17:29)

I know. Well, you know what? That's what I did too with my mom. And my.

B (17:32)

You do the opposite of what you

A (17:33)

don't like, but you find yourself doing and saying things that. Yeah, that. That your mom said to you all the time.

B (17:41)

I'm trying to think of what is something that your mom said or did that you did to me. That's a good Question. Even, like, a name that they called you. Like, you know, you always used to call me Pumpkin.

A (17:52)

Oh, yeah.

B (17:52)

Or angel face. Yeah.

A (17:54)

Yeah. No. You know what they called me growing up? Flaka. You know what that means?

B (17:59)

Skinny.

A (17:59)

Skinny. And you were skinny, too. As a matter of fact, my grandma used to call me. You used to get a lot of hate. I remember people would message you and go, oh, my God, you're anorexic. And I'm like. And I just want to tell them, this is the way she is. This is the way God made her.

B (18:13)

I really wasn't. I really was. No, because we have other problems. But that wasn't one of them.

A (18:17)

Yeah, no, that was not one of them. But you were super, super skinny, so I was called Flaca. But I was. My mom was a tough cookie. We had five kids. She basically raised us by herself because my dad was always gone.

B (18:32)

And now having four kids and imagining raising, like, four or five kids by myself, like, I. Yeah. I would need to be in a mental institute for, like, a whole year.

A (18:40)

No. And that's why my mom is crazy. She literally is cuckoo.

B (18:44)

She's crazy.

A (18:44)

Yeah. And you know what? But now, I mean, I never fault her for some of the things she did, because, you know what? I just look back and go, wow. She had a big responsibility and burden on her. And, of course, I was the oldest, so I was the mama. And so I was always the one that was helpful and the one that, you know.

B (19:03)

But what is something that she did with you or said to you that you did to me or you made, like, me like a meal or like a name or something? Used to say,

A (19:14)

I think my mom always drove me really hard, like, work ethic. And I think I did that to you. I really do. Yeah. No, you don't.

B (19:23)

I'm teasing.

A (19:23)

I mean, you've already been to, what, 10 therapists? You should be over it by now. My gosh.

B (19:28)

That's actually not how therapy works. Just.

A (19:30)

Oh, it doesn't. Okay. Well, I never have been to therapy

B (19:33)

because, yeah, it could maybe help a little bit.

A (19:36)

I know we could all use a little therapy, but. No. But, yeah, she used to drive me really hard and have a lot of expectations of me, and I think I did that with you and Landon. I think I was fair because I never let you. First of all, I never let you stop anything that you started. Do you remember that?

B (19:57)

Did your mom do that to you?

A (19:59)

Oh, yeah. My mom was like. You know what they used to say in Spanish? El floho travaja dos vessels. You know what that means?

B (20:06)

Okay, hold on. I know something works two times. But what does flojo mean?

A (20:12)

Floho means lazy person. The lazy person works twice as. Twice as hard or works twice. So anytime we did something, if we didn't do it right, she would make us do it again.

B (20:22)

She would say, el floho.

A (20:25)

He has to work twice. Yeah, because he has to do it again because he didn't do it right the first time. So I think I did that with you guys, you know, like, I didn't let you quit anything. And I will tell you, there's a lot of positives that go with that, because I look at your brother, he wanted to quit playing guitar when he was little, and his guitar teach. Now, granted, for those moms out there that are, like, wanting their kids to play a musical instrument, I say expose them to it. Let them try it. But you're gonna know whether or not they have an aptitude for it. It's not whether they like it, because no kid likes to practice. No kid is. If you play the guitar, it hurts your fingers. You're not gonna wanna keep practicing. But I remember asking his teacher, and he said, you know what? Landon really gets it. And he's quick and he picks things up. So I said, okay. He goes. He goes, if I were you, just, you know, keep him going forward. And sure enough, I did. And he kind of like, he came and thanked me. And when he was older, you know, I remember. Do you remember he would cry. No, you don't remember. You were you. I remember he would be practicing and he. And he'd have tear stains on his guitar. And he goes, I don't want to.

B (21:32)

Because you made him practice 30 minutes every day.

A (21:33)

I said, I don't want to practice. I don't like the guitar anymore. And I go, I don't care. I said, you're. I'm paying for your lessons and you're going to finish out the school year. And, you know, I'm not. You're not going to quit. And then fast forward later in life. He came up to me, he goes, mom, thank you so much for not letting me quit playing the guitar.

B (21:52)

Yeah, I think it's a really good lesson. I mean, I'm dealing with that right now with Stella. She hates dance. She hates ballet and tub. Which is so funny because, like, I feel like every little girl, like, loves you.

A (22:03)

Loved it.

B (22:03)

Love it. And I wasn't good or anything, but it's like, Stella, I feel like sometimes it's like an Old soul. Like, she. I feel like deep down she knows she's not gonna be a dancer, so she doesn't want to do it. Like, she's like. And I'm like, why don't you want to do it? She's like, it's hard, and I just don't like it. And so. But I did tell her. I was like, you have to finish it out. And her recital is Saturday.

A (22:21)

Yeah.

B (22:22)

And so I told her, like, you could do the recital, you know, and. But it was so funny because she got, like, her costumes in, and I don't remember. I don't know if you remember, but, like, I remember for that rehearsal or, like, costume day, like, where you got to dance on stage and put on makeup, were, like, the most exciting days of my life.

A (22:38)

Oh, you live for the costume.

B (22:40)

The costume. I could not wait. Like, and they would always tell us, like, you would make me put my costume away so we wouldn't lose it, and I would, like, sneak in my closet, like, try it on, because I was, like, so excited to wear this, like, tutu or, you know, show my belly like Britney Spears.

A (22:53)

They were so cute, too. Oh, my gosh, those costumes were loved.

B (22:57)

Every ballet dance or tap jazz, I would have done even more. And the funny thing is, I wasn't good at all, like, you know, I really didn't have a lot of rhythm.

A (23:05)

You. You know, compared to. Do you remember your friend Wesley?

B (23:08)

Oh, she was like. She went on to become, like, a professional dancer, by the way. Just saying.

A (23:12)

Yeah, well, you know, and everybody compared. And I want to say something, because I remember back in the day, I wanted you so bad to, like, be a good dancer.

B (23:20)

Like, get your hips into it and, like, have, like.

A (23:22)

I would try to teach you, like, swag. Girl, you got to some Spanish blood in you. You should have some.

B (23:27)

But I didn't have swag. And, like, Wesley much swag. And so we would, like, do these dance. Like, you know, you'd be like this,

A (23:34)

like, a little board, and she would be like.

B (23:36)

But that's what I mean is, like, some kids are just, like, born. Like, you said that aptitude. And like, Wesley, if you would have met Wesley when she was 7, you would have been like, that girl's going to be a. A dancer when she.

A (23:46)

You can just tell.

B (23:47)

You can just tell. Yeah, it wasn't in my blood.

A (23:49)

And you know what? And that's why I didn't force you to go forward. Yeah, I. But I made you finish it, and

B (23:55)

it was fun, so that's what I'M dealing with Stella. I don't think I'm going to force

A (23:59)

her to go through.

B (23:59)

She's not very good.

A (24:01)

Well, you know what. But just let her, you know, and. And this is kind of young. Well, she's five.

B (24:05)

She doesn't like it, and so I'm letting her finish it. She, like, I want to know what, tennis.

A (24:10)

Oh, so she's going to be an athlete.

B (24:12)

So I'm being, like, really not strict, but I'm like, okay, you're doing. So my. My role is with my kids is they have to play, like, one instrument and do, like, one thing that's, like, athletic.

A (24:21)

I think that's great.

B (24:22)

So you can pick whatever it is. But right now, I chose for her. I did piano because it's just like a good. Like it is. You know, you learn how to read music.

A (24:29)

Good for math.

B (24:29)

It's good for math. Good for hand. Eye coordination.

A (24:33)

Yeah.

B (24:33)

So I'm just doing piano now and then if she gets to be in fourth grade and she's like, I want to play a different instrument, I'm like, sure. But she's been doing piano for, like, about a year.

A (24:40)

Do you remember you wanted to play the flute and your lips weren't. Wouldn't allow you to. I know. You had the wrong shape.

B (24:48)

So apparently, like, I have, like, a teardrop in my lips and the air goes sideways instead of forward. So, like, I actually, I'd never. Like, my dreams were crushed when I went to sixth grade, like, band orientation, they were like, you can't play flute. Like, it's impossible.

A (25:02)

The only reason they were crushed is because all your friends were doing it. But you ended up taking percussion. Drums, remember?

B (25:08)

Well, percussion is like xylophone, piano.

A (25:11)

Yeah.

B (25:12)

Drum, snare.

A (25:13)

I could have seen you on the drum line.

B (25:15)

Well, they mainly put me on the gong, which is not great. You know, I'm like, I'm with all the cool kids, but, like, I literally only had, like, three notes per song, so it works.

A (25:24)

Hey, the one thing about Danny. Danny. You were always good at everything, but not excellent, but you just weren't great at.

B (25:32)

It's true.

A (25:32)

But that's okay.

B (25:33)

Except for running.

A (25:34)

But you were a great runner.

B (25:36)

I was great at running.

A (25:37)

But you were always good at everything. You always made the top teams, the A teams. But you were.

B (25:42)

You were starter.

A (25:43)

You never excelled at that one. You know, that one thing. But look at you now.

B (25:48)

But I would say I'm kind of like that now. To this day, I don't think I'm, like, great at anything, but I can. Like, I have. I have my hand in a lot.

A (25:54)

I. That's me.

B (25:55)

Yeah. You know, and I think that's okay. I think.

A (25:56)

I love that.

B (25:57)

Me too.

A (25:58)

I love that. So same. You know what? Okay. You want to know something?

B (26:01)

You know what the worst part about us is?

A (26:02)

What?

B (26:03)

Is that if we ever had to do a talent show, we don't have talents.

A (26:07)

Think about it.

B (26:08)

Think about it. And I hate that because there's been so many times people like, what's your hidden talent? Like, I don't have one.

A (26:12)

So that means you could never be a Miss America or Miss usa. The one that you.

B (26:20)

That many of usa.

A (26:21)

No, one of them you have to have a talent. The other one you don't.

B (26:24)

Oh, Miss America.

A (26:25)

Miss America. Yeah. One of them you have to have, like a serious talent.

B (26:28)

Yeah, that's Miss America.

A (26:30)

I never made you do beauty pageants either. Thank goodness.

B (26:33)

Oh, I would have loved it.

A (26:34)

I know you probably one thing about

B (26:35)

me, like, I love to be on stage.

A (26:39)

Yeah, I think so. Look at you now.

B (26:41)

You know what I secretly always wanted to be?

A (26:43)

What? A flight. A flight attendant. That's what I wanted to be when I grew up.

B (26:48)

That's sweet. I could see that you could still do that if you really wanted to.

A (26:51)

Are you kidding me? No, I just want to go travel and have fun.

B (26:54)

Yeah.

A (26:55)

Work on the plane.

B (26:55)

But they do. You could do it for like, one of those, like, high end, like, luxury airs.

A (26:59)

No, I'm over it.

B (27:01)

I get a little scared of the. The turbulence and stuff. I'm like. I'm a little too, like, practical.

A (27:06)

Okay, wait, tell me, what have you always wanted to do?

B (27:10)

I forgot. Hold on. What did I say?

A (27:12)

I just. Remember you told me you wanted to do YouTube videos when you were in college.

B (27:16)

Oh, I. You know what I always wanted to be? I'm a little embarrassed to say this.

A (27:19)

Oh, no.

B (27:20)

I always wanted to be like a Disney actor.

A (27:23)

A Disney. Like one of those, like.

B (27:26)

Like Amanda Bynes with, like, a show or like, you know, like on Disney. Like the. Like the. Like a childhood Disney star.

A (27:32)

Who is that girl? That.

B (27:34)

Selena Gomez. No. Miley Cyrus.

A (27:37)

Is that Miley Cyrus?

B (27:38)

I wanted to be like Miley Cyrus.

A (27:39)

Like, like, everybody thought you looked like Hannah Montana.

B (27:43)

I know. And I was like, I think I'm destined to be on Disney. And then I would go to these auditions. Number.

A (27:48)

Yeah.

B (27:49)

And then I never.

A (27:50)

No, you couldn't sing.

B (27:51)

No, it's not singing. It's acting.

A (27:53)

Oh, I. I don't. I used to. Oh, my gosh. I Remember about the plays that you used to put on with your friends when you came over, the little skits you all used to do together?

B (28:03)

I really wanted to be an actor.

A (28:05)

Yeah.

B (28:06)

But I never really pursued this.

A (28:08)

You could still do it.

B (28:09)

You know, I just don't think I have a knack for it. It's hard to memorize all the lines.

A (28:13)

You know what? That would be my problem.

B (28:14)

But, yeah.

A (28:15)

You know, what I've learned in life now at my age, I've realized, and I think this was part of being the part of that Q50 group. I. I've realized that, like, man, you can still reinvent yourself after the age of 50. Like, these women that I met seriously started new businesses, started new careers, and it's just amazing to see, like, hey, life's not over after 50.

B (28:40)

Love that.

A (28:41)

I mean, and inspirational. I look at me, like, what I'm doing now, like, you know, Instagram, thanks to you.

B (28:48)

Yeah.

A (28:48)

Which. But, like, all the different things that just kind of, you know, things have always kind of come my way. I'm launching a new swimwear line where

B (28:56)

they're mostly like, I've never launched a

A (28:58)

swimwear line and even a clothing collaboration. I mean, like, where in the world did I. Do I have the qualifications for that?

B (29:06)

Well, I think that's a good thing is, like, nobody really has to be qualified for anything these days. I mean, look at both of us. What are we doing? We have microphones in front of us. How'd this happen?

A (29:15)

You know what? That's pretty. That's pretty cool, though, really, that if you just. You know what it is. I think what sets people apart sometimes is, like, having the idea but actually implementing it and doing it. Yeah. I think that was you. I think that you. Both my kids, you and Landon are the type of personality. Huh?

B (29:35)

Doers.

A (29:36)

Doers. And you guys are implementers.

B (29:38)

Like, talk about it. You just do it.

A (29:40)

You. You think about it. You. You.

B (29:42)

You're.

A (29:42)

You're a visionary. Like, you think of so many things. Thank you.

B (29:45)

I've had so many people tell me that lately.

A (29:46)

You are. And then, you know what? You do it. And Lane's the same way.

B (29:50)

Yeah, we don't, like. Yeah, we don't like to talk about it. We just. And sometimes we won't even talk about it. We'll just do it. And everybody's like, what are you doing?

A (29:56)

We're like, I know.

B (29:57)

We just started doing it, and that was like kind of like the YouTube video.

A (29:59)

Like, you're not afraid. You're not afraid to, like, Step out there.

B (30:02)

Yeah. You know, you know why I say, like, I'm like, the worst thing that happened is you end up homeless. And that's not that bad to me.

A (30:09)

What?

B (30:09)

I know that's just like, literally I used to tell myself that all the time.

A (30:13)

You did?

B (30:14)

Yes. It really got me through a lot of things.

A (30:16)

Well, maybe that's because I told you when you were going to pursue YouTube after I put you through four years of college, I told you two things. I'll support you, but you can't move back home and I'm not going to supplement you.

B (30:27)

I know. So I always would be like, okay. I'd be like, do I want to go after this career path? I'm like, what's the worst thing that could happen? And then I would think about, okay. It would be like, I can't pay my rent. I wouldn't have a home.

A (30:37)

I really think you wouldn't have a home. You. You think you couldn't come back to. I mean, I told you that just to put the fear in you, but

B (30:43)

I'm just saying, like, that's. That to me wasn't that scary. So I was like, I might as well just pursue my dreams. And that's the worst that can happen. It's not going to get that bad. You know, that's what I always think.

A (30:53)

That's how I feel. I'm a total optimist. You are too.

B (30:56)

And that probably annoys a lot of people, but I feel like Jordan is very fear based. And I'm very like, dad?

A (31:04)

That's your dad?

B (31:05)

Yeah.

A (31:06)

Everything scares him.

B (31:07)

Everything scares, but nothing scares me.

A (31:09)

I'm like, what? What's the worst that could happen?

B (31:11)

That's what I'm saying.

A (31:12)

If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. So you.

B (31:14)

Never mind. And honestly, I think that it's really hard to say this when you're going through it. But, like, truthfully, if I look at my life in the times that I made the biggest mistakes, it's why I run such a different type ship now or a tight ship now. Like, I learned so much about what not to do through my mistakes, like being canceled for like those fake bags or being canceled for this or that. Like, yes, it was the worst thing ever. And I, like, was depressed for a month about it.

A (31:44)

Yeah.

B (31:44)

But now I wouldn't. I learned so much from that. Like, I feel like I have so much integrity behind every single little decision now with my business because I'm like, I will not ever cut a corner again.

A (31:55)

Yeah.

B (31:56)

You know so it's like, yeah, the stuff that did fail like that, that makes like the next move so much better and stronger.

A (32:03)

The most successful people in life have failed more than once. And you know what, if you can't fail, then I don't think you can succeed.

B (32:10)

Then you can't live.

A (32:12)

Yeah, well, no, I mean, I think you almost need to fail in order to succeed.

B (32:17)

No, it's.

A (32:17)

And that's what kind of sets you apart, you know, from others that, like, if you fail and you fall apart, then you know what.

B (32:25)

Yeah, but Debbie was not the first business I launched, let me just say, you know.

A (32:29)

Yeah. Do you remember the beaded. Was it beaded bracelet or was that me?

B (32:33)

Oh, the beaded bracelet. Yeah.

A (32:34)

Yeah,

B (32:37)

you used to do beaded bracelets and used to make me help you.

A (32:40)

I have done literally everything. Businesses.

B (32:43)

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A (34:02)

to give you a little background. I grew up in a Hispanic family and family in San Antonio. And we were all. Since I was a little girl, what we used to do was we started a bit. My dad was in the military. Okay. And so once he retired, because he started very early, we. My mom got the idea. My mom was always the. And she was the one that started everything. She was the thinker, and she was the one. The idea person. And dad would make it happen. And so dad, when he was overseas, found these roses that looked, smelled, and felt real. And the petals, they were made of paper, which, you know. You know, paper comes from wood. So there were these wood, and they felt like real rose petals. So then he came back home, he brought some of those, and my mom said, we need to make those and sell them. And anyway, so dad somehow found the materials, you know, did all the research, got the materials, we came home, we deconstructed one of the roses, and then we took that. That fiber, that fat, you know, the wood pedal things came in squares. And then we would cut it out, and then we started to wire it around a stem. And it was so funny because I remember that was probably some of the most fun times as a family, because there's five kids, right? And we're all like, you know, we're all old enough to do this. We all sat around and we'd have these competitions to see who could make the prettiest roses, right? So anyway, once we developed that, dad got us into the airports, we opened up these little flower carts, and we started selling these roses, and we used to mist them with a rose oil spray. So not only did they feel and look real, but they smelled real. And then we got into the airports, these little kiosks. So that's where the whole entrepreneur thing. We used to sell turquoise jewelry in the malls. And so my mom always thought, like, any type of business, that she could see all. Oh, we used to sell pottery when we were. Pottery, pottery.

B (36:02)

Did you make the pottery?

A (36:03)

No, we'd buy it from Mexico. Remember the rod iron pottery that if you go to San Antonio, you'll see it everywhere? And we used to sell those, and we used to go door to door.

B (36:12)

Wow.

A (36:13)

As kids, we used to carry door to door pottery. And one time, my dad made us go out in the. It was cold and it was. It had snowed over. And my mom was like, no, Louie, it's too cold for the kids. He goes, oh, they'll be fine. So we're walking across the field, me, Yvette Lewis, and we're Karen's Pottery. We're freezing to death, and we're going. And I think people were buying from us because they felt sorry for us. And I'll never forget Yvette oh, my God, she was such a wimp. She's walking across the ice, and she bit the dust and, like, immediately started bawling, and my dad was like, okay, bet you get in the truck. And then we had to finish out.

B (36:52)

She was the favorite. Oh, she was so, like, did you get to keep the money yourself or did. Was it for the family?

A (36:59)

It was for the family. Yeah. We always did it for the family.

B (37:01)

Wow.

A (37:02)

Yeah. But anyway, all those businesses, I did, you know, and I still do do that to this day. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing, because I feel like I'm a restless soul. Like, I get bored with things easily.

B (37:13)

No, I get that.

A (37:14)

But you know what? You know what drives me? It's building. No, it's really not the money.

B (37:20)

It.

A (37:21)

No, it's not the money.

B (37:22)

I know. I'm just kidding.

A (37:23)

It. It's building something.

B (37:25)

Yeah.

A (37:25)

It's like starting something and see it flourish and see it grow.

B (37:30)

Yeah. No, it's like.

A (37:31)

And then once it does, and then I. And then I actually start making money, then I'm like, okay, I'm over it.

B (37:36)

Same.

A (37:37)

And then I have to start over again.

B (37:38)

Same. I don't. Half the fun is just building it.

A (37:41)

It's building it.

B (37:42)

No, I mean, I, like, so resonate with that, and I think because. So then you did that with your family, so then you kind of introduce me to that hustle culture. Like, maybe it's not as intense as yours was, but maybe it was more intense, actually, because we would, like.

A (37:56)

You know what you taught me? My parents taught me to work hard. They said, you need to be a hard worker. And you know what you taught me? You said, mom, it's not about working hard. It's about working smart.

B (38:06)

Yeah. Yeah. So.

A (38:07)

So it's a hard work. It's a hard, smart work.

B (38:10)

It's a. Yeah. Combo. But I think that I picked up that gene because I remember when we go to Colorado and, you know, we went with, like, a bunch of families, a bunch of kids, and, like, all I wanted to do, me and Landon was instead of, like, playing with all of our friends, we would go into the ponds on the golf course and fish and, like, look for all of the golf balls.

A (38:28)

Yeah.

B (38:29)

And then bleach them, sell them, scrub them, set up a table, and sell them to the golfers.

A (38:33)

Like, the same golfers that lost them the day before.

B (38:35)

Yeah. We were just selling them their balls.

A (38:36)

Y' all remember, like, Lena was like, oh, pro V1. Those are V1. Those are worth $5? Yeah.

B (38:43)

So we would charge five bucks and. Oh, my God, we killed.

A (38:46)

And these guys. You guys killed it. Like, you would sit out there.

B (38:49)

No. And it was like, also, I don't know how old I was. I didn't want anything. I didn't even, like, really know what money was about. But, like, I do remember we made bank. And, like, I remember. What's so crazy is, do you remember

A (39:00)

Lana used to say, mom, money just doesn't mean that much? And he goes, money just doesn't mean that much to me. And I was like, okay, but.

B (39:07)

But I remember when I. That was like, the summer that after that, I told my dad, I was like, I want to open up a book bank account, you know, and for all these little things that I'm doing, like, I want to start saving my money. And I was like, I don't know what I'm saying my money for, but I just started saving money. It was, like, so fun. And that is why, when I went to college, I was able to buy my first camera. Because these cameras and the lenses, like, the lens alone that I bought was, like, fourteen hundred dollars. It was so outrageous. Like, I was like, like, how can I ever justify that? And because of that bank account that I started from that one trip, I had enough to buy my equipment for YouTube.

A (39:43)

You know what? Both of y' all were like that. Landon put down $50,000 down payment on his first house when he was 25. He had saved that money. Remember, he won that competition, so he got a little jump start.

B (39:56)

Yeah. He won $10,000 when he was.

A (39:58)

You did the same thing. You would take your money, opened up a bank account.

B (40:01)

I remember I would work in. Dad would be like, you don't need to be working so hard. You're a little girl. I'd be like, that's all I want to do. Because I remember I worked at that consignment shop.

A (40:09)

Yeah.

B (40:10)

Anyway, yeah, so I just. We both have that, like, worker bee gene where it's. It's just, like, so fun to build things. But I'm the same way as you. I get. I get bored, and I have to move on. Yeah.

A (40:20)

I wonder what you're going to do to your kids, because, you know, one of the things is, like, I never made it easy for y'. All. I never gave you the money for stuff. I think you both got a little bit of money when you graduated from college. Do you remember when you bought your car? Oh, my gosh, Danny. So Laney got his first car and we had a budget for that car. And I remember you saying, okay, Danny, okay, you're turning 16, and you need. You know, what kind of car do you want? You go, I want a Mercedes.

B (40:48)

Because our friend. Our friend's dad owned a Mercedes dealership.

A (40:52)

And I was like, no, but wait a minute. So you wanted a Mercedes? And I said, well, honey, here's the deal. I said, this is your budget, and not only is this your budget, but you're going to have to drive this car till you graduate from college. So from 16 till you get out of college.

B (41:06)

Also, I drove it till, like, two years ago.

A (41:08)

Just saying. Well, I mean, you kept it longer.

B (41:10)

I kept it forever.

A (41:11)

Do you remember what you did? Because there was no way. I said, there's no way this little girl is going to get her Mercedes. And you were very specific. Had to be white with tan interior. It was a Mercedes. It was a smaller class.

B (41:22)

I forgot what class.

A (41:23)

And so I said, there's no way she's going to do it. Oh, oh. And I told you, it can't have 100,000 miles on it. It's got to have low miles.

B (41:30)

I think it's like 20,000 miles or less. Yeah.

A (41:32)

Because you're gonna. You're gonna keep it through your whole college career, high school and college, and you went online and found it, called every single in freaking Florida.

B (41:41)

Florida. We had to ship it from Florida.

A (41:43)

And then, so this little girl got her car at. In her budget, and luckily, we did have a friend who owned a Mercedes dealership. Certified. He certified it for us. For you. And I was like, that's exactly who you are. Yeah, exactly.

B (41:59)

Yeah.

A (41:59)

And Lane is the same way.

B (42:00)

I don't like to settle.

A (42:01)

No, you don't.

B (42:02)

But who does?

A (42:03)

I know.

B (42:04)

Okay, let me tell you a story about that.

A (42:06)

What?

B (42:06)

Speaking of settling and cars. So, like, when I meet Jordan, he.

A (42:12)

First of all, you didn't even own a car.

B (42:13)

I know. And that was the thing is, like. So I'm like, you know, I'm excited because this guy asked me on a date. He pulls up in an Audi. I'm like, oh, my. All my girlfriends are like, oh, my God. He drives the Audi. You know, we're freaking out. Come to find out, like, three months in, he had rented that car for our first date. He had sold his car. Didn't even have a car. Drove those little car to goes all over downtown Austin. I was.

A (42:34)

That was his business.

B (42:34)

So then it was like, later on, I was like, you know, we'd go on a date. He'd be like, can you come pick me up? But, yeah, his. In Austin. You don't really need to have a car. It was like his business was. He was working for Ride Scout. Yeah, it was kind of like an Uber situation. But anyway. But, like, speaking of that is like, so Jordan. The difference between Jordan and I is like, that's so me. I'm like, okay, my budget. I'm gonna get every single, like, little, you know, and I care so much. Jordan. I remember he. I had convinced him, like, you know, you gotta get a car, like, for this to, like, work out between us.

A (43:08)

Oh, I remember.

B (43:09)

So he had a budget as well. And I'm like, what car are you gonna get? He's like, I don't know. He calls his dad and is like, dad, can you just pick out a car for me? His dad goes, pick up, picks out a car. Jordan never test drove it, never saw it, nothing. His dad just picked it out, and Jordan paid for it.

A (43:22)

He did not care about it.

B (43:23)

And he got that dang Mitsubishi, and it had cloth, and it had black cloth seats, and with a wet dog in there all the time.

A (43:29)

It was. It smelled horrible.

B (43:31)

I'm sorry if anybody drives in Mitsubishi, but that car was a Tonka toy.

A (43:34)

I still own that car in.

B (43:35)

Oh, we do.

A (43:36)

It's in Colorado.

B (43:37)

Yeah. You know, the worst thing about that car is, like, you don't have anywhere to put your elbows when you're driving. I hate that.

A (43:43)

I really think you need a minivan. But just saying, I think we probably.

B (43:46)

I probably am entering that era, and I'm proud of it.

A (43:48)

Can I tell you, I got to tell you a pretty cool story. So you know Alex, who works for me, she.

B (43:56)

She is the emoji story.

A (43:58)

Yes.

B (43:58)

Okay. I don't know it.

A (44:00)

You don't know it.

B (44:00)

Okay.

A (44:01)

So we communicate back and forth. And before I did this podcast was going to do it. She said, hey, you know, here's the outline. So we're going over it and we start talking. One of the questions.

B (44:09)

I never look at my outline.

A (44:11)

Oh, my gosh, that is. You know what? Normally I wouldn't either. If I didn't have Alex, I wouldn't have done it either, because I never look at my calendar.

B (44:18)

Yeah.

A (44:18)

And then I get in so much trouble. And then she'll go, tornado. Have you read your text? And I was like, no. And she's like, well, I've already sent that to you because I'll. Can you send me the. Anyway, you and I are both the same.

B (44:30)

Yeah.

A (44:31)

So anyway. So we're going over the whole. The outline or whatever, and one of the questions was, what is the most used emoji on your phone? That I use? Yeah, that I use. And I said, okay. My most use is the one that has the three little hearts around the smiley face guy.

B (44:49)

Yeah, you use that all the time.

A (44:51)

Oh, my gosh.

B (44:51)

And sometimes everything.

A (44:52)

That's my. And then I always use that other one. You know, the one that goes like this with the big eyes.

B (44:58)

You use that one all the time.

A (45:00)

That's usually when I'm confused or surprised or shocked. And I don't know what that emoji means. See that guy right there? I use him a lot, too, because I'm always confused about stuff. So anyway, when Alex responds to me, sometimes I'll ask her, hey, did you get a chance to, like, do this or whatever? And she'll go, yes. And exclamation point, exclamation point. I'm like, okay, I just asked, you know, like, I. I feel like she's getting after me.

B (45:26)

Like, oh, no.

A (45:27)

Yes.

B (45:27)

And then that's just like, yeah, no.

A (45:30)

But I always see it as, like, yes, over emphasizing yes. Like, yes, of course I do.

B (45:36)

I would think of it like, yeah and no.

A (45:38)

And see? And so. And then she does that to me all the time. And sometimes I feel like going, well, Alex, I was just trying to ask because. And sometimes I'll respond that to her, and she's like, oh, no, it's fine. You know, whatever. So Alex told me today, and I never knew this about this young generation, but you guys don't like using periods, apparently.

B (45:56)

Because if he said yes, it'd be

A (45:58)

like, yes, okay, well, I don't use periods anyway. But like. But then.

B (46:02)

But if you have nothing, it's like, so mean. It's like.

A (46:05)

But to use that exclamation mark means to me, like, you're over emphasizing no.

B (46:10)

It's like, happy, excited.

A (46:11)

No. And I didn't know.

B (46:12)

It's like. Honestly, it's kind like, thank you for putting the exclamation point. I feel so much better.

A (46:16)

I think we need to bother you. I think we need to have an emoji lesson to, like, people my age.

B (46:21)

That's not emoji. That's a punctuation mark.

A (46:23)

Yeah, but. But even those type of things, because I never knew that. I always thought she was upset with me or, like, annoyed that I was so funny always. And Beth did that to me one time, too. And I was like, beth, you're not like that.

B (46:36)

No. Yeah, no, That's a good thing. Is when people put an exclamation point. You want that?

A (46:40)

In fact, that's why I use the heart with the thing with the three hearts.

B (46:44)

That's why I can't stand the way that dad texts, because the way he texts just sounds so angry.

A (46:49)

Exactly.

B (46:50)

It's like he has no. And then the way he spaces things out. Yes.

A (46:53)

Yes.

B (46:54)

I mean, they're. I'm like. Either you're so angry or you can't see the keyboard. Like, you know.

A (46:58)

No, he can't see.

B (46:59)

I know. That's why it's like, you really can't take text personally.

A (47:04)

That's why we don't like text. Because I can't understand what you're really saying. Like, there's no.

B (47:11)

I don't like. I don't like texting because I voice text now, and it never gets what I say. Right.

A (47:15)

Wait a minute. Did I hear you right? You voice text now.

B (47:19)

I always voice text.

A (47:20)

No, you didn't. You gave me so much.

B (47:23)

Mom, I don't. I don't voice text in public, at a table, whenever we're at dinner. Yeah, I don't do that, and I will continue to give you grief for that.

A (47:30)

Well, sometimes I need to respond quickly.

B (47:32)

No, but I think that's rude.

A (47:34)

I don't do it at the table.

B (47:35)

Yes, you do.

A (47:36)

But I do not believe that you voice text now, Mom. You never did. You should cringe. Used to cringe when I did it.

B (47:43)

I. Because I don't like, whenever you do it in front of people, I think it's rude. And whenever you're, like, in front of people, like, in line or whatever, I will always text. But if it. I'm by myself and I'm working, all I do is voice text.

A (47:53)

Okay, well, that makes sense. But anyway. Okay, so now I know whenever you do an exclamation mark, you're not mad at me.

B (47:59)

It's a positive.

A (48:00)

It's a positive thing. Thing.

B (48:02)

It's trying to be kind.

A (48:03)

Okay, I like that. I like that. Okay, let's see. What else do we want to talk about? Do you want to talk about my cosmetic journey?

B (48:12)

You're not very good at transitioning between topics, Let me tell you that.

A (48:16)

I kind of like to get it. Get to the point.

B (48:18)

Get to the point. Okay. Well, I mean, I do feel like a lot of people have asked me, how old are you? We're not supposed to.

A (48:24)

66. I don't care.

B (48:26)

Are people still sensitive about when you ask them about their age?

A (48:29)

You know, some People are. Some of my friends are. But for the most part, I've never been.

B (48:34)

Yeah, that's probably because you're pretty. If you were ugly, it might be a little more offensive.

A (48:39)

I don't think that has anything to do with it. It's just, like, you get to a point in your life, like, after 50, you just come to the realization it is what it is. And you know what? You really don't care what people think that much anymore. I love that part about getting older,

B (48:51)

but I feel that way.

A (48:53)

That's what I'm saying. Because you're getting older.

B (48:55)

Oh, gosh.

A (48:56)

I know.

B (48:56)

Jordan was.

A (48:57)

You get a confidence.

B (48:58)

This was so funny. Like, so this was two nights ago. I was. Where was. I was in the kitchen, and Jordan's like, babe, come here. Quick, quick. And I'm like, what? Like, I was like, had one of the babies or something. He's like, no, this is an emergency. Come. I really thought, like, something was wrong. Maybe he had, like, a splinter, a piece of glass in his foot. Like, it was, like, that type of urgency. And I ran in there, and he was looking in the mirror, and he was like, for the first time, he had found all of his grays, which I've known that he's had them because I can see his hair, you know, and they kind of sparkle. They're just kind of like. You're just, like, kind of dispersed within there. They don't. They're not really obvious. Like, only if you, like, were with him every day would you see. Yeah, but he has, like, a good amount sprinkled throughout. He doesn't have, like, problem areas. Like, mine's, like, right here with the grays. His are just kind of. Which is honestly kind of nice, you know?

A (49:43)

Oh, I love guys with gray.

B (49:44)

No, I know. And so I was. He was, like, freaking. He's like, babe, I have a gray hair. I go, hey, gray hair. You have gray hairs everywhere.

A (49:52)

What are you talking about? That's from having four babies.

B (49:54)

He looks at me and he goes, are we going old together?

A (49:58)

Oh, my gosh. You guys have no idea. You're in your 30s. Come on.

B (50:02)

I was like, babe, yeah, we are. He, like, grabs my hand. He's like, oh, we're going old together. I was like, welcome to the party. I felt this way for the past two years. Like, he literally thinks that he's, like, still 25. Like, he'll walk into the room, and he's like, all these old farts. And I'm like, no, babe, you're, like, 35 years old, like we're getting up there.

A (50:19)

Oh, I still think I'm a lot younger than I am. I know, but you know what 30s are? I'm going to tell you from my experience, the 30s were rough. They're the toughest time in your life because that's when you're having babies and you're raising your kids and let's face it, life is challenging. It's exciting and fun, but it's challenging. And then you turn 40 and you still look pretty good, you know, if you take care of yourself or whatever. And pretty soon you're getting a little more confident and you're like, yeah, you know, my kids are older, they're self sufficient now there are some off in college and now you start to sort of realize like, okay, but 40 year

B (50:55)

kids are not off in college.

A (50:56)

Well, you were, weren't you?

B (50:58)

No, I think you were in 50s. Mom. You're young, but you're not that young. Oh my God, your 40s. I was like in elementary school.

A (51:06)

Were you? Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.

B (51:08)

Yeah. It's okay. 50s is college. Go ahead.

A (51:10)

50s. Okay, well 50s even is to me. Like my 40s were great because you look good, you have a lot of energy, you're still doing great. Your kids are, you know, they're pretty self sufficient.

B (51:20)

Yeah. You're not wiping diapers.

A (51:21)

Yes, Exactly. And then 50s, now you're transitioning, now you have your kids going off to college.

B (51:27)

Yeah.

A (51:27)

All of a sudden you're like, wait, what's my, who am I? What's my purpose? What am I going to do? And now you're left with your husband and you're like, did, did you do

B (51:36)

your triathlon when you turned 40 or 50?

A (51:38)

50, yes.

B (51:38)

Yeah, I was in high school, I think still.

A (51:40)

Yeah. Oh, were you okay? Yeah, just been graduating. Yeah, I did a trial.

B (51:44)

I think I was in high school.

A (51:45)

Yeah, that's, that was my challenge.

B (51:47)

Yeah. So I think a lot of like 50s is when kids start moving out.

A (51:50)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right.

B (51:53)

And then in 60s is grandma era or 70s.

A (51:57)

Yeah, yeah, grandma. And this.

B (51:59)

So which has been your favorite decade right now, really?

A (52:04)

I mean I, I liked, I will say I liked my 40s a lot. It was, it was a lot of, I had a lot of fun in my 40s. We did a lot with our friends. We still had, you know, we still looked decent, look good still energy. Yeah. And then 50s came and oh my God, I gained a lot of weight in my 50s. I don't know What?

B (52:24)

You were a little chunky.

A (52:25)

No, I was.

B (52:26)

You were not.

A (52:27)

It's okay, though. It's. It's life, you know, I get it.

B (52:30)

I'm in that era. Yeah, it's fine.

A (52:33)

And so anyway, so that 50s was kind of a funky. I'll tell you why. What happens. Your kids leave you, and all of a sudden you're like, what's my purpose? And all of a sudden you go into a weird funk. Like, you get into, like, a depressed sort of like, oh, my gosh, like, what? Now it's you and your husband. You're like, okay, who is this guy? And do I even like him anymore?

B (52:52)

No, they're very different.

A (52:53)

Well, it's very different because now, all of a sudden, you've dedicated so much time. Time to your babies and your kids, and now all of a sudden, it's not. They're not there anymore. They don't need you that much.

B (53:02)

That would be weird.

A (53:03)

It's very weird. Just wait till you get there. I mean, and it's kind of sad in a way, but then you overcome it. You know, you eat a few, you start drinking a lot of wine, and then you gain about 50 pounds. And then pretty soon you're like, wait, stop. You got to get. You got to get this back on the road. So I did. And so 60s has been great now, other than getting cancer in my 60s when I turned 60.

B (53:24)

Yeah, that was not.

A (53:25)

Hey, but thank God I've overcome that and, you know, made me, gave me a new perspective on life. And. And now I have grandbabies. And to me, like, that's the most rewarding of all.

B (53:37)

I'm excited to be an aunt because I want to know what it's like to, like, have the good parts of a kid. Parts. Yeah, well, like, I want to know what it's like for, like, somebody to be like, Aunt Danny or Dee Dee, whatever. And I, like, show up with all these toys and I'm like. Then they start crying like, peace.

A (53:53)

Yeah, that's me.

B (53:54)

That's Grandma for that.

A (53:55)

That's grandma stage.

B (53:56)

That's how I want to.

A (53:57)

You don't worry that much about your kids anymore. I mean, you do. You still think about them, but it's not like it. You worry now, like, you know. You know, worry about them being healthy, having friends, growing up. What are they going to do? How are they going to be all these things?

B (54:10)

Yeah, I want to be a cool aunt.

A (54:12)

Yeah, you will be.

B (54:13)

I know, because I know how to deal with kids. So, like, they're going to Love me.

A (54:16)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (54:17)

You know, and I'm gonna have, like, so many, like, little.

A (54:19)

Are you gonna have another one kid? Yeah.

B (54:22)

No.

A (54:22)

You done? For sure.

B (54:24)

I mean, I'm not, you know, never say never. It depends, I think if I homeschool my kids and are you using protection?

A (54:31)

Because you're like. You are fertile, Myrtle.

B (54:32)

I am very fertile. Or maybe it's Jordan this fertile. I don't know.

A (54:37)

Well, no, you're fertile and he's fertile.

B (54:40)

Yeah. So I don't know. I don't want to talk about this with my mom on a podcast. Next question. No, but I'm. I'm super excited to be an aunt. And I'm so. I'm, like, so pumped to have our cousins kind of be like, you know, have a kid, have cousins.

A (54:57)

I'm excited for that too. I really want you guys to have a really close relationship because, you know, I grew up with a ton of cousins.

B (55:04)

That's why I want to have. I think that's why I want to have it. I found this that families or kids that come from big families often just want, like, two kids because they're, like, it was so chaotic. Like, I never got any attention. Like, so they just want to have two or three kids. But. But kids that also didn't come from big families want a ton of kids. Yeah. So it kind of just is like a cycle over and over unless you kind of land in the middle. But that's why I want, like, five kids and, like, all these kids running around in total chaos, because I didn't really have a chaotic kid, like, youth, you know, Like, I was with my friends a lot, but me and Lana, like, we didn't really fight that much. You know, if we fought, it was like, picking on each other, but it wasn't like a true, like, vitriol towards the other person. Like, I want to know what it's like to just take a shirt from your sister and be like, this is mine.

A (55:53)

No, you don't fight so much because

B (55:56)

you just have, like, these built in best friends, built in besties. And, like, I. I had to work hard for my friends. Friends, you know, I kind of just want them to come with, you know, territory.

A (56:05)

I love that your kids are close together. I wish I would have had you and Landon closer together.

B (56:09)

I know, but.

A (56:10)

Hey, yeah, I know, but it's. It's all good.

B (56:13)

But, like, But I think that Landon might have his kids close together.

A (56:16)

Oh, he's already decided. And so.

B (56:17)

Because, you know, why Land and I have a very similar Mentality of, like, just, like, rip off the band Aid and just, like, do it.

A (56:22)

Yeah.

B (56:23)

You know, quit talking about. Just do it. And so I think that's why I had all my in. Because I'm a female, I've. I felt more pressure to just get it done sooner. Landon obviously doesn't have to worry about fertility and stuff, so he's had more time to process.

A (56:36)

Married young, so. She's got plenty of time.

B (56:38)

No, she's got plenty of time. But, like, you know, for me, I was like, I'm. If I want to have five kids, I have to get started, like, now. You know, that's how I felt, and that's why I felt, like there's, like, been a lot of urgency with me. Well, you know, back in the day, they had kids, like, 18, 19 years old.

A (56:54)

You know, I'm an Irish triplet. I never even heard that expression before. The triplet thing. The Irish triplet thing. You're. I've known people that have been Irish twins, but I'm a Irish triplet. Yeah. You have Irish twins.

B (57:07)

Well, I guess I'm off by a month because mine are 13 months apart, and I think you have to be 12 months apart. But, like, I think I qualify. I think I still deserve.

A (57:13)

They're close enough. Trust me. We deserve. They're close enough. So. Yeah, my mom was a little cuckoo.

B (57:19)

I don't blame her.

A (57:20)

Yeah, I. I don't either. That's why I never. That's why I never complain about her. Every now and then, I'm just like, she's cuckoo. But, you know, we can all complain

B (57:27)

about our mom sometimes.

A (57:28)

Yeah. I mean, it's okay. It's like, part of what we do. Yeah.

B (57:31)

It's like.

A (57:31)

But we love them. You know, we love them and we respect them.

B (57:35)

Yeah.

A (57:35)

And, you know. Yeah, it's. It's good.

B (57:38)

Well, so tell us more. Speaking of you being in your. You said you're 65?

A (57:43)

Six. I'm gonna be 67 this year. Wow.

B (57:46)

Oh, like, in a couple months. Well, tell us about your cosmetic procedures, because, you know, people want to know. And you went to Dr. Mike Chiodo. Kyoto.

A (57:57)

Kyoto.

B (57:58)

I always said Chiodo.

A (58:00)

No, it's Kyoto.

B (58:01)

No, it's just like, they're, like, some of my best friends, but, you know, they're, like, so much my best friends that I just avoid saying their last name. Like, but he avoided this long. But now I, like, don't know how to actually say it.

A (58:10)

Yeah. No, Mike Kyoto. I love him so much. I love Bridget, too.

B (58:14)

Me too.

A (58:15)

Like, bless her heart.

B (58:15)

Like, they're the best.

A (58:16)

They are the best.

B (58:17)

He's like, they're like the most generous people and like you are. They're so genuine and they want everybody in their circles to succeed and.

A (58:27)

Yeah.

B (58:27)

Just so giving. We just, like, love them so much.

A (58:30)

And not to mention, he's really hot. I'm not dead.

B (58:36)

I know. I know. You know, I've gotten to the point. Sorry. Side note that I've started calling everybody honey.

A (58:42)

That's what I do.

B (58:43)

I know, but, mom, I'm like half your age and I'm like, I'll see somebody and they're like, older than me. I'm like, I'm sorry, honey. And I'm like. But, like, I just comes out.

A (58:52)

I know.

B (58:53)

Anyway, so. Yeah, you went.

A (58:55)

Okay. So you want to hear about my cosmetic journey, right?

B (58:57)

Yeah. Why are you holding your phone? Are you have, like a script?

A (58:59)

No, I'm just answering, like, messages while we're talking. No, I'm just kidding.

B (59:03)

No, I think she probably is.

A (59:05)

No.

B (59:05)

Are you bored?

A (59:06)

No, I'm not bored.

B (59:08)

It's okay if you are.

A (59:09)

Okay. So have I had stuff done? Absolutely.

B (59:13)

Put this down. It's making me anxious.

A (59:14)

Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, I've had stuff done. I mean, starting with Botox.

B (59:19)

Okay.

A (59:20)

And I've had. I don't. I'm not a big filler kind of girl.

B (59:24)

Yeah.

A (59:25)

One time I did it. Tried to do it on my lips. Oh, it hurts.

B (59:28)

So remember when your friend came over and did it? Our house almost passed out.

A (59:31)

Yeah. That was not fun. The only way I would ever have my lips done if I. I could have the Kardashians doctor do it for me.

B (59:40)

Same.

A (59:40)

I know.

B (59:41)

I got mine all dissolved.

A (59:42)

Those girls.

B (59:43)

And I look at videos of, like, when I used to have lip filler, and I'm like, oh, that did not look good.

A (59:48)

Okay. Can I tell you something about this whole cosmetic thing? Sure.

B (59:52)

Please.

A (59:52)

Growing up, like, for the longest time, like, I was. I'm a low maintenance girl. I color my own hair at home. You know, I rarely. Like, I was not big.

B (60:01)

It's true. She didn't have, like, any makeup growing up. I was like lipstick and mascara.

A (60:07)

Your dad has no idea how good he had it. My girls would go and get their hair and their nails. I did my own nails.

B (60:13)

No, I'm high maintenance. Like, I. I am that girl. It's okay.

A (60:17)

But I. I was not for the longest, and I still don't think I am.

B (60:21)

No, you're not.

A (60:22)

But I'VE gotten to the point now where, like, what if I, you know, when I look good, I feel good.

B (60:27)

Yeah. So whatever.

A (60:28)

So. But. But it's not that important. Like, I don't want people to think, like, oh, you have to do all this stuff in order.

B (60:35)

Let's be real. She had doctors reach out to her and, like, say, do you want to collaborate? And she's like, sure, it's free. So that's a lot of times, like, why? But, like, I have never really heard you complain about anything.

A (60:46)

Yeah.

B (60:47)

You know, I think the one thing I remember that you did that you complained about is you said that, like, in your 40s, you had that saggy eye stuff and it made you not be able to see.

A (60:55)

Yes.

B (60:56)

So you got that done when you were 40. And that's the only thing I can really.

A (60:59)

And that was hereditary, by the way. That happens to you, like, sometimes. My mom had that. So, yeah, I had my eyelids done early, and that was the first thing I ever had done. And that was it. I didn't even do Botox back in the day until. So. But recently I've had my neck done. Dr. Mike did my neck. Because that was one thing where you show age, you know, is your neck. And. And then I've had Botox. I've had, you know, I go to Skin Farm. So I get these treatments done. Like, I've dead the vampire, you know,

B (61:31)

I mean, I'll be honest with you.

A (61:32)

Well, I don't think it works. Well, I'm.

B (61:34)

I've never seen. Like, I'm sorry. Like, I know if any of this is sponsored, like, for you, that's. No, I don't know. I don't know. Well, but I'm gonna be honest. Like, I've tried. I don't think any of that works.

A (61:44)

Well, wait till you get to be my age and then you'll be singing a different note. I think. I think a lot of those things do work. One thing.

B (61:50)

Maybe I have to do them a lot.

A (61:51)

One thing I won't do is that chemical peel thing.

B (61:55)

Oh, I want to do that. That's the one thing I feel like does work.

A (61:58)

No, don't do that.

B (61:59)

Why?

A (61:59)

It. I know people say it's good because it gets down to that lower layer, but I'm like, no, no, I know. I'm not going to do that to my skin. I don't even do facials. I don't like facials. You know what I do? I exfoliate with those elements pads. Yeah, I use those. And that's Exfoliation enough so you've gotten your neck done? I had veneers done years ago, which I would love to get my. My veneers done again. You know, it's been over 30 years.

B (62:27)

I'm getting mine done next weekend.

A (62:29)

Jealous. But anyway, that's one thing I would love to do.

B (62:32)

Dr. Dooley, by the way.

A (62:33)

Okay.

B (62:34)

She's so good.

A (62:35)

Well, hey, Dr. Dooley, if you're listening, hit me up. Anyway then. What else have I had done? What else? Oh, I just recently had.

B (62:46)

Oh, the air sculpt.

A (62:47)

The air sculpt thing.

B (62:48)

That was another thing. Like, they reached out and like, she got it for free, so she did it. No. What you gonna do? Wait, so tell me, did you like that?

A (62:56)

I mean, I'm gonna show the results of it. Yes, I have liked it. Because here's the thing. When you're airsculpt is not for people that are trying to lose a ton of fat. It's problem spots, your little belly spot or your love handles. It's a great way for you to get rid of those, because no amount of exercise or diet, I mean, I'd have to lose so much weight and I'd be way too skinny in order to get rid of those.

B (63:22)

Can you. Did you, like, notice a big difference? Like, do your clothes fit different or.

A (63:26)

No, I. I feel like they do. I feel like they do fit differently on my waist. But, you know, it takes up to six months to get the full final.

B (63:34)

Because you're like, swollen results.

A (63:36)

Yeah. So I'm.

B (63:37)

What, do you just start eating a bunch for six?

A (63:39)

Well, that's what I'm kind of worried about. Where is it going to go?

B (63:41)

Yeah.

A (63:42)

Kind of hope it goes to my booty.

B (63:44)

I like that. Not for. Not for you, but I want that for me.

A (63:48)

I know. And so what else have I had done? Trying to think.

B (63:52)

That's it. You had your eyelids in your 40s, your neck.

A (63:56)

Yeah.

B (63:57)

And then.

A (63:57)

And Botox, and I've done those vampire facials. I did this thing called skin beave right here. Because this is the area that I really struggle with. Around your mouth, you know, and so we still haven't fixed that.

B (64:11)

I don't know.

A (64:12)

I'm waiting for somebody to reach out to me.

B (64:14)

They're like, I know just the thing.

A (64:15)

I just know the thing.

B (64:17)

Okay.

A (64:18)

Yeah. So other than that. And I, you know, color my hair

B (64:22)

and you color your own hair, and

A (64:24)

I. I self tan. I do not like getting a spray tan. Really? Yes.

B (64:30)

Well, you're like, mom, you're like Literally Hispanic. You don't need.

A (64:32)

No, but I. I mean, that loving tan stuff, man, that's.

B (64:35)

I know, but you're.

A (64:37)

You're just.

B (64:37)

You got the olive skin.

A (64:39)

What else do we want to do?

B (64:40)

So, people, I want to. Actually, I'm gonna do some quick hitter fun questions for you. So the way this is gonna work is you gotta put your phone down.

A (64:49)

Okay, I'm listening.

B (64:51)

Are you really texting people?

A (64:53)

No. No.

B (64:55)

Okay, so quick hitter, fun question. So I'm gonna ask you something, and you have to answer as fast as you can.

A (65:01)

Oh, gosh.

B (65:02)

Okay. What's a random thing you're weirdly picky about?

A (65:06)

Oh, my gosh. I can tell you this right now. When I fly, I. I do not like layovers. I have to have an aisle seat.

B (65:15)

Yes. Yeah.

A (65:16)

And I fly American.

B (65:18)

Why don't you fly Southwest? Oh, used to be, like, such a big Southwest girl. What happened to you?

A (65:25)

What happened to them? Oh,

B (65:31)

wait, tell me more. No, it sounds like you have something that's, like, really personal.

A (65:36)

Southwest is great. I own stock in Southwest, you guys.

B (65:40)

No, but seriously, what do you not, like, why do you. I don't know.

A (65:42)

I feel like they changed their whole vibe. They used to be this fun, friendly, love in the air, and I feel like they've become very corporate. Really? Yes. I don't feel that family sort of friendly vibe anymore.

B (65:58)

Is it because they got more extensive?

A (66:00)

Well, that's. That has a lot to do.

B (66:01)

Yeah. Okay, that makes more sense.

A (66:03)

Yeah.

B (66:03)

Because I still feel that fun family vibe.

A (66:06)

You do?

B (66:07)

Yeah.

A (66:07)

Okay.

B (66:08)

Like. Okay, so last week.

A (66:09)

Well, maybe I haven't flown him enough recently.

B (66:11)

So last week we flew Southwest. And you know how, like, sometimes they ask people to, like, check their bags before?

A (66:18)

Oh, yeah.

B (66:19)

Because they don't have enough, like, overhead bin.

A (66:20)

Yeah.

B (66:21)

Space. And I almost pulled up my phone and recorded, but this flight attendant who is working that area came out, and he literally was singing and, like, dancing and, like, making it so fun. And everybody was just, like, dying laughing. And I was like, this is why I love Southwest. Well, and I love that they have assigned seats now.

A (66:37)

Yeah. You know what? I do like the assigned seating so much less trust. Do you remember that? You don't remember this. Well, maybe you do, but your dad used to travel every week and every weekend. Right. And he would fly only Southwest because there was. It was Texas, and that was back in the day when we used to be able to go to the gate to greet them.

B (66:55)

I don't remember that.

A (66:55)

I know. And Landon was a little boy.

B (66:58)

Yeah.

A (66:58)

He was little. You probably weren't even born yet. And he would go up to the window and he goes, there's my daddy's airplane.

B (67:04)

And it was Southwest.

A (67:05)

It was Southwest.

B (67:07)

Yeah. I mean.

A (67:07)

And they used to serve peanuts. They gave up peanuts.

B (67:10)

I hate peanuts.

A (67:11)

I love peanut.

B (67:12)

So I'm so happy we're over with peanuts. They actually have really good seasoned pretzels.

A (67:16)

I know. You know what? I just flew south, and they're pretty good.

B (67:19)

Yeah, yeah, no, it's really good. I. I really enjoy Southwest. Okay. I'll. I think the reason why you don't fly Southwest is you want your American points, and American flies more places.

A (67:28)

That's true. I. And I'm traveling a lot more internationally now.

B (67:31)

Yeah.

A (67:32)

And see, I like my status.

B (67:34)

You know, I get that because I, you know, I used to have, like, the companion pass in Southwest. I was like, literally so far up there. But. But I. I have traveled a little bit more American just because they do go more places. I get. Okay, sorry, that was only one question. We have, like.

A (67:47)

I know. Okay, okay, okay.

B (67:49)

What's something. What's something you're always losing?

A (67:52)

Oh, my gosh. Well, my glasses.

B (67:54)

Yeah, I have, like, 10 pairs of glasses.

A (67:56)

Oh, my gosh. But you know what I just did? Can you tell I've been reading my phone without my readers. Did you notice contacts? I'm wearing contacts. They're multi. Multifocal contacts.

B (68:08)

I might eat some of those.

A (68:09)

They're amazing. You can see far away, middle and close up.

B (68:12)

Wow. What brand is it?

A (68:14)

They're Contact One. Contact One.

B (68:18)

Shout out.

A (68:18)

I think it's Alcon. Alcon is the brand. Yeah, I've already reached out to them because. Yeah, I want them to work with me, too.

B (68:26)

You know, it's so sad. What I. You know, how, you know, I don't typically reach out to brands like, I don't like.

A (68:32)

Well, you don't have to.

B (68:33)

Well, sorry. What I mean is, I don't pitch myself for brands. Yeah. Yeah. So that's exactly what I meant. Exactly. Sorry. I was trying to say it in a humble way, but then I said it again.

A (68:45)

I know.

B (68:45)

Sorry. What I really mean is. Yeah, no, so. But. Because, like, I, like you said, I like to keep things interesting. And I was like. So I went to Jenny and I was like, here's some brands I, like, really want to work with. And I've always wanted a pizza oven. Okay. But, like, I don't want to buy a pizza oven. And, like, I'm a little overwhelmed, and I would love to Have a brand. Because I would love to make content about that because I think that'd be fun to talk about. A pizza oven.

A (69:08)

Yeah.

B (69:08)

So I have been, like, really trying to find, like, the best of the best pizza oven brand. Okay. So I had, like, two that I, like, narrowed it down to, and I was, like, so excited, and they were both replying to me. So then it got narrowed down to the one, and it was, like, the best brand out there. I won't say what it is. And I'm like. And so I'm. They're like, you can customize the pizza oven? Like, I'm, like, going back and forth, and I'm like, asking ChatGPT. And, like, we go through, like, these. So, like, so many rounds of negotiations, and then all of a sudden. Has this ever happened to you? They're like, sorry, Danny, we just talked to our supervisor, and we're no longer interested.

A (69:38)

And I was like, yeah, I don't know what happened. Yeah.

B (69:41)

And it's, like, so hard to not take it personally. So then I asked why? Because I was like, what?

A (69:45)

Yeah.

B (69:45)

What was it? Was it something I said? Was it my naked maternity photos that I posted? Am I too controversial now? Like, what is it? They actually just sent this back, like, right before I went, they said. And I want to see if you think that you agree with this reasoning.

A (69:59)

Okay. Because I did have a brand one time. Tell me. They're like. They're. We were moving forward, and all of a sudden they said, okay.

B (70:06)

Yeah. And it's like, we've been talking for days. And, like, I said, selections. I was, like, going to hire, like, a designer to help me, like, figure out where to put it. Like, I was like, gung ho. Yeah. You know, this is happening. I already told Jordan, bam. Getting you a pizza oven, you know? Yeah.

A (70:20)

And that's what you did wrong. I never talk about something until it happens.

B (70:24)

No, I know. But this was, like, so in the bag, you know?

A (70:27)

Yeah.

B (70:27)

And to be honest, like, what the pizza was oven was worth, like, wasn't like.

A (70:31)

Yeah, it was. Yeah.

B (70:32)

Yeah. It's not like, crazy, like, I can just buy the pizza oven, but sometimes

A (70:36)

it's fun to help a brand, too, to grow.

B (70:38)

Well, I was like.

A (70:39)

And it's not even big brands, like,

B (70:40)

but it's also like, this. I don't know anything about pizza ovens, and I love that I'd be able to work with them, and they could educate me about all the different things. And then I could be like, guys, I worked with this. I looked at all this research, and I work with them, and I'm like, a pro at this. So anyway, they said, my supervisor took a look at Danny's accounts and found that she has a completely different audience from ours. Our audience consists of 75% men, 45 to 65 years old.

A (71:04)

Yeah, that makes sense.

B (71:05)

And then she said, they said, we're also used to doing seven to 10 collab reels and posts with our chefs and customers.

A (71:12)

Oh, I don't know, though.

B (71:14)

I feel like, don't you want to be introduced to a new demo?

A (71:17)

Well, if you think about, you know, old school, that might be a little old school. Because, you know what? Who's the one that usually brings those? You know, the wife. The wife.

B (71:28)

And let me ask.

A (71:28)

The wife says, I want that. You know what I wanted Mark to get was one of those egg smokers.

B (71:33)

The green eggs.

A (71:34)

Yes.

B (71:35)

Can I tell you something?

A (71:36)

Yeah.

B (71:36)

So that is so true. Because I wanted this pizza oven, and I just felt like I'm, like, I'm so overwhelmed because, you know, you also have to, like, worry about, like, the ventilation. Where does the smoke go? Like.

A (71:44)

Yeah.

B (71:44)

So I sent all this stuff to Jordan. I was like, hey, can you just, like, confirm that our backyard allow, like, that's why the men are doing it, but they're doing it for their families and their wives.

A (71:54)

Yeah. Yeah.

B (71:55)

So I don't know about this guy. Yeah.

A (71:57)

I don't know too many men that would be like, oh, guess what? I want a pizza oven. Would you want a pizza oven?

B (72:04)

No, I think men. I think men would want a pizza oven. But it's the wives that are pushing it along because these guys have families.

A (72:11)

Absolutely. Women drive everything in the home. Everything.

B (72:17)

Everything. It's so true.

A (72:19)

They do.

B (72:19)

Well, I don't know, Clint. I think that you're really missing out. Just saying. Yeah.

A (72:23)

So you know what? It's okay.

B (72:25)

It's okay. I'm over it. It's only going to drive me for the next five years of my business. I'm just using. Okay. Are you more of a planner or a figure it out as we go?

A (72:36)

Figure it out as we go.

B (72:37)

What's something small that instantly puts you in a good mood?

A (72:40)

Oh, seeing my babies on FaceTime if I'm not with them.

B (72:44)

Yeah.

A (72:45)

Yeah.

B (72:45)

What's the most overrated food?

A (72:47)

Overrated food.

B (72:50)

Caviar.

A (72:52)

You know, I'm not a big caviar lover.

B (72:54)

I've never tried it.

A (72:55)

I think that is a little overrated. Like.

B (72:57)

Like fish eggs, right?

A (72:59)

Yeah. It's like if when you Say, maybe I haven't eaten the right type of caviar, but I feel like even if I did, you know what?

B (73:06)

That's such a lie. I did try it one time, and it tasted like salt balls.

A (73:09)

Yeah, it does.

B (73:10)

It tastes like salt water ball salts.

A (73:12)

You know what's overrated? Oh, my gosh. This is overrated oysters.

B (73:16)

I believe that, and I've never had.

A (73:18)

Okay, first of all, when you eat oysters, I've never known anybody to eat an oyster just on its own. They always got to put the red sauce.

B (73:24)

So you're really just eating red sauce with crackers and goop.

A (73:27)

Yeah. And the texture is wrong.

B (73:29)

It's wrong.

A (73:30)

You know, the presentation's pretty, but I personally am not an oyster. It's overrated.

B (73:35)

I agree.

A (73:36)

Yeah. And they say it's a aphrodisiac. I don't think that really works.

B (73:40)

Is that what makes you horny?

A (73:42)

Yeah.

B (73:42)

Okay. I didn't know that.

A (73:43)

I've tried it.

B (73:45)

Oh, Lord. Next question. Favorite TV show you've watched recently?

A (73:51)

I watch a documentary.

B (73:53)

Okay.

A (73:53)

It was. I watch a lot of documentaries. You know what? I'm into crime.

B (73:59)

What female isn't?

A (74:00)

I know. What is it about? Females love crime documentaries because we're so

B (74:04)

much smarter than men. Like, we could figure it out. Like, we know. Like, you watch it. It's like. It's like. It's like, you guys really didn't know that this guy was gonna murder his family wife. You didn't know that. Just look at him.

A (74:15)

I think it's the curiosity in us. Like, we have to know what happened and how it happened and why it happened. Like, it's the. Like, guys don't care. Like, how many guys? Except for your dad. Oh, my God. Your dad is like a woman. He asks so many questions and has to know so many details.

B (74:33)

I think that's a lot of men, actually. Behind closed doors. Yeah. Like, you just sit there and, like, gossip with your husband. It's the best.

A (74:40)

So Jordan's that way. Jordan asks a lot of questions.

B (74:44)

No, I just.

A (74:44)

Like, when you go out with your girl, when you go out with your girlfriends, does he come home and go, so, how was it? What did y' all talk about?

B (74:50)

Oh, yeah, he does.

A (74:51)

Oh, Mark does that to me, too.

B (74:53)

Like, what's up? Like, what's new with the crew? Yeah, you know, but you know what?

A (74:57)

I'm not a. I don't like to talk.

B (74:59)

Yeah. I'm like, I don't really care what your friends are doing. Like, you can keep it to yourself. Like, I mean, I care about your friends, but, like, I don't need to know what the whole conversation was about. Right?

A (75:08)

Right. Okay. Yeah.

B (75:10)

Yeah. All right. What's. What's one thing you could eat every single day?

A (75:16)

Popcorn.

B (75:17)

Yeah. You kind of do something everyone loves that you just don't get.

A (75:22)

Something that everybody loves that I don't get.

B (75:25)

I have a few of these, but

A (75:27)

let me think about this. Because that everybody loves.

B (75:31)

There's so many things.

A (75:32)

Like what? Give me an example of yours.

B (75:33)

I know. I'm trying to think.

A (75:34)

It'll help me think.

B (75:35)

Okay, I think vampire facials. Like, I don't. I don't get it. I just feel like they, like, mess up your face and then, like, it heals. And everybody's like, well, I'm so glowy. And I'm like, well, it just healed so it looks better than it did yesterday.

A (75:47)

No, I'm talking about things that people love that they do all the time. Like, what do they do?

B (75:51)

I know. That's what I'm. That's what I'm talking about, too.

A (75:55)

I can't think of it right now. Let me get back to you.

B (75:59)

No, wait. Let me think. Okay, hold on.

A (76:15)

Oh, you know what? What I don't get is why girls do those pointy fingernails. I do not. Oh, my gosh. I do not like that. That is so overrated to me. Like, I just think, why?

B (76:29)

Oh, I don't like your nails. I don't like chrome. I think it's head over done.

A (76:37)

Do you hate the shape of them, though?

B (76:39)

I like mine.

A (76:40)

You know what I found out when I went to have my nails done at Rose Couture, I was with you. Oh, yeah. And, you know, she said. She goes, what shape would you like? And I go, well, I wanted to

B (76:51)

square with round edges.

A (76:53)

That's what she told me she was. I always try to describe it. Okay, I want a little bit flat, but a little bit. But rounded on the edges. She goes, square, round. I go, no, yeah, like a little bit. And she goes square, round. And she kept saying that. And she goes, square, round. And I go, oh. So that's all I have to say is square around.

B (77:09)

Yeah.

A (77:10)

I didn't know that. So I learned that.

B (77:11)

You learn something every day.

A (77:12)

Now. I don't have to explain myself.

B (77:14)

You don't get, like. You don't like my nose?

A (77:15)

No, no. It is not attractive.

B (77:19)

Oh, see, I love it. And I love when girls have them.

A (77:21)

I know. Okay, so that's just something I feel.

B (77:23)

I wonder, though, like, it's a generation thing, you know, like what men would think.

A (77:27)

Let's ask one. I never think about it. He needs.

B (77:31)

You've never thought about it. Well, can you look at it now? Which shape do you like better?

A (77:37)

Be honest.

B (77:38)

You can be honest. I. It won't hurt my feelings. Yeah, probably yours. You know why? Because I can get better back scratches. See, men just look at it as ability.

A (77:48)

Well, mine need to be done again. Are you sure you don't want to look again?

B (77:52)

Because. But I've always thought they're more feminine, and that's why, like, maybe men would like them because they're like.

A (77:57)

Here's the thing.

B (77:58)

You kind of come across as, like, a little bit more, like, dainty. Like, needy. Like, oh, my God.

A (78:01)

I think men like long fingernails. For sure. Because I used to have long fingernails, but they weren't.

B (78:06)

What other shape are you gonna go? Long.

A (78:08)

But no, the thing is, I cut mine short because I use my hands a lot, you know, garden, whatever. But I used to have them long like that. But they weren't pointy. But mom and guys loved that.

B (78:18)

But, mom, they were pointy.

A (78:20)

No, they weren't.

B (78:21)

Yes, they were. I remember your nails growing up, when I was, like, five years old. You always had that dark red color, and they were just the shape. Really? You don't remember?

A (78:29)

No.

B (78:29)

You always had. I could find pictures.

A (78:32)

Maybe. It's. I don't know. Okay, well, I believe you.

B (78:35)

Yeah. And I love. Whenever I can, like, tap things.

A (78:38)

It's like, so, like, that's a drummer in you.

B (78:44)

Okay. Who in the family would survive longest on a reality show?

A (78:50)

A reality show? Like, for doing what, physical stuff?

B (78:53)

I don't know. Just maybe, like, a reality show. Let's. Okay. Who would. Who would survive the longest on a Bravo TV show?

A (79:00)

Oh, not me. I would say probably Landon.

B (79:07)

Really?

A (79:08)

Yeah. I think Landon would. Because Landon just doesn't care. He just doesn't care. And he would just sit back and he's very methodical. He's very logical and, you know, Lane. And listens more. Maybe your dad, too. I think your dad. Well, if it was dad would get

B (79:26)

kicked off for saying something.

A (79:27)

Oh.

B (79:28)

Inappropriate.

A (79:29)

Canceled, for sure.

B (79:30)

For sure.

A (79:30)

He just, you know, he's just old school. You know, it's okay.

B (79:34)

We all of our parents, we all have that one person in our family. We're just like, dad, you can't say that anymore. You know?

A (79:39)

I know it's hard.

B (79:42)

Yeah. Okay. So I'm just, like, kind of curious, like, why not me?

A (79:47)

I think you're A little too emotional.

B (79:53)

Okay, I'll receive that. Who would be the worst to travel with

A (80:01)

Your dad.

B (80:02)

Oh, my God. He likes. So true. He like, can't.

A (80:04)

Oh, he cannot go. He can't figure anything out.

B (80:07)

It's like a child.

A (80:08)

It's like a child. I travel with a five year old.

B (80:11)

Yeah, no, it's true. I remember the time like, he was like. He like, still can't order an Uber and that's hard. If you had a warning label, what would it say?

A (80:20)

A warning label. Do not mess with my kids.

B (80:24)

Oh, I like that. Okay, let's see if there's any other topics in here.

A (80:31)

We talked about travel. What are some of my bucket list? You know where I want to go? I want to go to the Galapagos Islands. You know why?

B (80:39)

No.

A (80:39)

I want to see those big turtles and they lay their eggs and then when they hatch, you see all these little baby turtles and they just skedaddle back into the ocean.

B (80:49)

Really? Yeah. Galapagos turtles. What you want to do you know

A (80:52)

where the Galapagos Islands are?

B (80:54)

Let me guess. Are they near Honduras? I don't know.

A (81:00)

They are. Yeah. It's off the shore.

B (81:03)

I literally, I pictured Honduras and then I pictured all those islands and I thought maybe those are off the shore of that.

A (81:09)

It' not in Hondur, but like you.

B (81:11)

Yeah, it's like island. I was right.

A (81:13)

Yeah.

B (81:13)

Sometimes guys.

A (81:15)

Ecuador. That's what it is.

B (81:16)

Sometimes. I'm so much smarter than I think I am. Does that ever happen?

A (81:19)

You know what? You were super smart growing up.

B (81:21)

No, I wasn't, though.

A (81:22)

Do you remember when your brother thought you were a genius because you could name all these shapes? Quadrilineal triangles.

B (81:29)

That was like. Because I was like four and.

A (81:31)

And you went to a Montessori. Thank you very much.

B (81:33)

All they did was make me polish brass. I hate monasteries. I'm sorry if your kids in Montessori school. I. I had a horrible experience myself. Why? All I did was polish brass.

A (81:42)

But you loved it.

B (81:43)

No, I didn't. I didn't know that there was another option.

A (81:46)

What do you mean you didn't know?

B (81:47)

Because I was like 5.

A (81:49)

I wish you would have told me. I would have talked to your teacher.

B (81:51)

But Mom, I didn't know that. That I was like, why is my mom sending me here to polish brass?

A (81:57)

I don't know. I thought it.

B (81:58)

But the other thing we would do is the. Okay, so let me tell you the only reason why I ever memorized what that triangle was. We would do stations and it's all Self play because it's Montessori. But I was always drawn to the polishing brass station. But there was another station you like to clean.

A (82:16)

That's why.

B (82:16)

Yeah, So I would just polish brass, but there was another station where you would take a piece of paper with a shape on it and put it on a sponge, and they would give you a thumbtack and you would have to thumbtack the whole shape and out of the piece of paper.

A (82:32)

Yeah.

B (82:32)

So, like, literally.

A (82:33)

That sounds like fun.

B (82:35)

No. And, you know, these times I poked myself with that thing. I did not like Montessori school. And I much rather would like. I sent my skits to my kids, to Spanish school, which I don't really know what they're doing there, but they're speaking Spanish at least.

A (82:47)

Hey, I love that they're speaking Spanish. That's all good. Okay, what's next? Okay.

B (82:53)

Oh, wait. What was. What were we just talking about?

A (82:55)

We were talking about where we were traveling. Hey, where's your bucket list? Place. Place.

B (83:00)

I haven't been to a lot of places, so. I have so many places, like. But my biggest thing is, like, I want to go to Japan, Tokyo, Singapore. I want to go to Singapore. I want to go to Germany. I've never been to Germany. I really want to go to see Anne Frank's house. I think that would be really cool. That's in Amsterdam. I know Amsterdam's like, not the.

A (83:20)

Like, I've been there and I've seen it. It's not that.

B (83:23)

It's not that great, but I'm like a World War II buff, so it's like. It's not about it being great. Like, I don't think it's going to be. Be great, but, like, I am so obsessed with World War II that I like to see it all.

A (83:34)

Amsterdam is probably not one of my favorite places.

B (83:37)

I know. But, like, I. I like to go because the history. I'm like, when I travel, I'm more into history than I am anything else, you know?

A (83:43)

You know one place that I want to go that you keep giving me a poo poo about? I want to go back to China.

B (83:49)

I'm not giving you a poo poo. You just invited me. I said, I don't really want to go.

A (83:52)

I love China. I've been twice. I love it. I would go back again. There's so many places in China that are incredible.

B (83:59)

No, I believe you.

A (83:59)

And you know, the other place I really enjoyed seeing, I think you should go is Dubai.

B (84:04)

Well, no, I know. Apparently it's not really good to go right now.

A (84:06)

Well, no, not right now, but no,

B (84:08)

I would love to go to Dubai. That was also on the list until

A (84:10)

this, like, worse, you know, I'm going to Switzerland.

B (84:13)

I want to go to Switzerland as well. Yeah.

A (84:14)

Okay. We need to get you out more. Well, I know. Well, you're a little busy right now,

B (84:19)

but if there any of them are family friendly, let me know.

A (84:23)

Should we take the kids on a Disney cruise?

B (84:25)

I want to take them on so badly. Like, I love Disney World. I love taking my kids to Disney.

A (84:31)

Yeah.

B (84:31)

It was one of those things that I was like, ugh, I'll never be a Disney parent. And then I went and I was like, there's nothing better than seeing your kids faces at Disney World. And yes, they might not remember it. Well, then it's more for me than

A (84:42)

it is for them because it kind of is. It kind of is more for us.

B (84:45)

But it's so sweet to see.

A (84:46)

But I've heard the cruise is amazing.

B (84:48)

Yeah.

A (84:48)

For the family and stuff.

B (84:50)

But Disney resell, now that I'm in my collab era. I'll email you. The good news is I think I have the perfect demo for you.

A (85:00)

Oh, my gosh, she's teasing.

B (85:03)

Okay, so let's see.

A (85:05)

Is there another. You know what? Do you want to know what advice I would give myself?

B (85:11)

Yes, please.

A (85:13)

I'm following. Hey, I'm following the outline.

B (85:16)

But it's more like conversational than it is the outline.

A (85:19)

No, I understand, but so if you,

B (85:20)

but if you can figure out a way to transition to the conversation.

A (85:24)

Well, the problem is, is like we get into these things and we go off to a rabbit hole.

B (85:28)

But yeah, but no, that's the way it's supposed to.

A (85:29)

Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, so speaking of the Disney.

B (85:34)

She says this.

A (85:36)

Speaking of, speaking of the Disney thing.

B (85:38)

Yeah.

A (85:39)

You know, taking your kids and stuff and thinking about like your kids experiences.

B (85:44)

Yeah.

A (85:45)

Do you know one of the things that I wish that I would have probably done a little differently?

B (85:50)

See, this is a great transition.

A (85:51)

Yes. Okay. I'm learning. I'm learning.

B (85:53)

Yeah. Yeah.

A (85:53)

And is. I think I wish I wouldn't have made you guys participate in so many things. Really? Yeah. Which is really interesting to me because I, I think about like you were so busy growing up and I wish I would have taught you to do chores.

B (86:13)

I did do chores.

A (86:14)

No, you didn't. No, you didn't.

B (86:18)

Okay.

A (86:19)

But I just, I'll just. I feel like I made you. You know what? You know what got me hooked. This is what happens to young moms. And if you're a young mom out there, you probably are falling into this kind of trap where. Cause I see you doing it too, Danny. Like all your friends, their daughters are doing dance and ballet, and, you know, they're doing this or tennis or they're doing soccer or whatever it is, and you feel like, oh, wait, I got to get my kid to do that too.

B (86:44)

I don't have any other friends that have their kids in any stuff because I'm the oldest.

A (86:47)

Oh, really?

B (86:48)

Yeah. I have to pave way for all my friends.

A (86:50)

Okay, well, then maybe I should speak for myself. That's how I felt like growing up. My. My friends all had their kids doing this and that and this and that. And I just kept thinking, okay, I got to get my kids too. They got to do this, they got to do, you know, they got to do soccer, they got to do dance, they got to do all that. And honestly, I feel like you were so busy so much, and granted, a lot of it did make you into who you are today. I was busy, but I think sometimes kids need to like, not be busy. They need to find ways to cope with themselves and not be busy, not be bored. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like kids get bored easily today, don't you?

B (87:30)

I got pretty bored easily.

A (87:32)

I know, but it's okay to be bored. That's the thing. I never wanted you to be bored. So it's okay for kids to get bored because that's when you become more self expressive. Like, they find things that they get more creative, they get more, or they

B (87:45)

get more lazy or they get more,

A (87:47)

what do you call it? Self reflective. You know how you're always telling me.

B (87:52)

I think that that's a very idealistic way of looking at boredom. But I think the reality and the truth of the situation is, is if a kid doesn't have something to do, they're gonna go play video games or they're gonna watch tv.

A (88:02)

No, but you don't let them do that. You let them go be bored. Let them go figure out what to do. You know what I used to do when I got bored? I went one time, like, I never really had a whole lot of time to get bored because we were always working. That was a different thing, you know, compared to you guys, where you were always doing activities. But one time I got bored, and so I decided I was going to go out in the backyard and I built a whole village out of mud.

B (88:26)

And then what did that teach you about life.

A (88:28)

And then I made little trees. I made little trees. And I just remember it being such a creative outlet, and it was so much fun, and I was so proud of myself for doing it.

B (88:40)

So you think that's better than just

A (88:41)

like, I think I could have been. If I was smart enough, I could have been an engineer. I could have.

B (88:47)

So you think that that moment is better than being, like, on a soccer team?

A (88:52)

I'm not saying to participate in sports. Sports are very important, and I think it's really important to have that team mentality. Like, it's not just about you, or if it's going to be about you, then make it about you. You know, be good at it. Tennis, whatever. Yeah. But I think team sports also teach you to be a team player.

B (89:11)

Yeah.

A (89:11)

Which is good.

B (89:12)

And have friends.

A (89:13)

And have friends. You know, it's. It's a social.

B (89:15)

It's more like a. Sometimes it's more a social thing, I think.

A (89:18)

Yeah, I think so, too. But it's okay to be creative. Like, let your. Let your creativity come out. Like, sometimes you don't really get to ex. You know, express yourself in those ways because you're too busy trying to give up.

B (89:31)

Did you ever feel you can be honest about this? Did you ever feel like you were sending your kids off to do so many things that you, like, missed hanging out with them?

A (89:38)

Yes. That was my other point. I wish I would have had more time to, like, sit down with y' all and play with you, you know? Like, I didn't have that time because it was like, okay, you get home from school, hurry up, get ready. You gotta have a snack. You gotta hurry up. We gotta go to soccer, and then we're gonna have to go to, you know, whatever.

B (89:57)

Did you really want to be playing with us, or didn't you want to be doing your own thing?

A (90:01)

Well, I mean, maybe a little both. Yeah, I mean, I kind of wanted. I think I got. I was lucky that when you were in school, I got to go play tennis. You know, I got to do those things. But I wish I would have taken that time to really, like, connect with y'. All. And I think that's what a lot of moms miss out on, is because they are so. You're so busy, you know, you're so busy. You. That's what's neat about being a grandma is, like, we get to actually stop and sit down and enjoy time with them, and it's easier said than done. When you're a mom of four, it

B (90:34)

all sounds so great and idealistic and

A (90:36)

beautiful, but, like, I don't think it's a reality.

B (90:38)

Sometimes I'm like. Like, I love you, but, like, I don't want to sit down and play with you anymore. Like, you know, like, I really want

A (90:45)

an hour because you're in the throw of all the. The mess. I get it. Yeah, you're right. It's idealistic.

B (90:51)

Yeah. So, I mean, so you have to

A (90:52)

wait to your grandma, and it's like

B (90:54)

when you have four or five kids and it's like one of them is bored, it's like, in. It's. That just happens, like, naturally. Especially because I don't let them watch.

A (91:01)

Yeah.

B (91:02)

Any tv, so. Or we don't do any screens. But I do think until what we do is, like, we'll color and we'll lego and we'll do this. But sometimes it puts a lot more work on me because I feel like I have to provide all these activities for them.

A (91:14)

Well, that's why you have grandmas, and that's why we hang.

B (91:17)

You know what I mean? Like, it's just so idealistic to be, like, just let your kids go. And I'm like, yeah, I. I would love for that to happen. And sometimes that does happen. Like, where Stella and Stratton will, like, be in a good mood and, like, build a fort together for 30 minutes, but then the other three hours. Mom, I'm bored. Mom, can we watch a show? No. Mom, can I do this? Mom, can I do that? And I'm just like, can y' all just, like, leave me alone and just, like, go do something?

A (91:38)

Can you make them go outside?

B (91:40)

Yeah, but they don't want to go outside sometimes, like, you.

A (91:42)

Yeah.

B (91:43)

It just all sounds so beautiful. But then you're in it, and it's like, it doesn't work as well, but, like. But that's. That's why I do, like, having activities where they get out of the house, like, tennis and it's only 30 minutes or, like, swim lessons or whatever. And.

A (91:57)

Yeah.

B (91:57)

And they seem to, like, really enjoy them. Except for Stella hates, you know, dance.

A (92:00)

Yeah. But I guess it's a fine line. I don't know.

B (92:04)

Yeah. Sometimes I just feel like we're just always so hard on ourselves, looking back at what we could have done differently. It's like, you probably were just doing the best that you could in the moment.

A (92:12)

Oh, absolutely.

B (92:13)

You know?

A (92:13)

Absolutely. Like, you know, you have no idea how much I used to worry about, like, oh, my gosh. Like, especially you, because, you know, being a girl. Girls Kind of have it a lot different than boys do. Girls are.

B (92:26)

Yeah, you kind of have to. You. It's like, if you want to be a cheerleader in high school, like, you have to start cheerleading when you're five.

A (92:31)

Oh.

B (92:31)

And it's, like, so intense and competitive.

A (92:34)

Yeah, it is. And sometimes girls aren't very nice to you. And, you know, and. And so. And. And whenever. I'm sure, if you're a girl, mom, you've been through this where, you know, your daughter comes home and they didn't ask me to play with them, or they didn't, you know, let me participate or whatever. And then you're like, but why? Like, my daughter's so great. That's what I'm thinking. And, like. And then it makes you feel horrible, and it makes you feel like, oh, but why didn't they like her? And then you.

B (92:59)

That's Jordan. And then Jordan will be like, that girl just leave you out in the playground. I'm like, babe, stop. And he's like, no, I saw that girl.

A (93:05)

She didn't.

B (93:05)

She didn't let Stella play with her. I'm like, babe, just let it happen. It's gonna be okay. Not everybody's gonna be nice to sell all the time. And I'm like, but you're making it a big deal, which is gonna make it a big deal to her. Just, like, let it go. Like, let it go. You know?

A (93:17)

You know what I would do? I'd overcompensate, and I'd go, you want to go to TJ Maxx or go buy you a toy or go get you some ice cream? Like, I would overcompensate, like, okay. Oh, poor baby. Like, they did. They were mean to you.

B (93:27)

I don't think that's a bad thing, though. It'd be like, let's go get ice cream.

A (93:31)

No, it's.

B (93:31)

Make them feel better.

A (93:32)

No, I. I know. I'm just saying that's what I used to do for you.

B (93:35)

I think every mom probably does that.

A (93:37)

I think so, too. I'm just curious to see, like, having one girl, what that's going to be like versus the three.

B (93:44)

I'm already living in it. Let me tell you.

A (93:46)

She's like a mini teenager.

B (93:48)

I know.

A (93:48)

She's really sassy, but she loves me.

B (93:53)

She does. She loves me, too.

A (93:58)

But you know what? When she's in the mood, she is the sweetest.

B (94:02)

She's fun.

A (94:03)

But then when she's had enough of

B (94:04)

you, she's like, it's very obvious.

A (94:06)

Yeah, very obvious.

B (94:07)

When she's sweet. She's sweet. If she's not seeing that.

A (94:10)

Yeah.

B (94:11)

Well, anyway, this has been a very fun.

A (94:13)

It's really been fun.

B (94:14)

So we've kind of overdid it.

A (94:16)

But, you know, we talked about a

B (94:17)

little bit of everything.

A (94:18)

Yeah, we kind of did.

B (94:19)

For your first podcast, I think I would say a minus.

A (94:22)

A minus. I need to learn how to transition.

B (94:24)

The transitions are a little scattered, but

A (94:27)

you know what this is?

B (94:29)

Well, listening to this are like. Their brains are like. It's like a ping pong ball.

A (94:32)

That's how my brain. That's how my brain is every day.

B (94:35)

Yeah. Well, where can people follow you?

A (94:38)

Come. I guess you can go to Tornado.

B (94:41)

Yeah. On Instagram.

A (94:42)

Tornado Mom. On Instagram.

B (94:44)

Yeah. Go check her out. She posts, like, a lot of outfits. Amazon gardening, travel, all the fun stuff. Well, thank you for coming today, mom. I love you.

A (94:56)

Hey, I love you so much too, baby girl.

B (94:58)

Okay, we'll talk to you later. Bye.

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