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Danny
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Jordan
The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast D Influence.
Danny
We are so grateful that you're with us today because you know what? You survived your first of typically two or three ER visits in your third trimester.
Jordan
It wasn't just an ER visit.
Danny
Yeah, it was.
Jordan
That's all I survived this week.
Danny
No, that's what I'm saying. Well, I didn't get into what you had, how many strains of virus and flu and things you had, but typically we go in for it. Was it GERD or gallstone attacks?
Jordan
Well, sorry, can we recap the entire week? Because I didn't just go to the emergency room. I had a uti.
Danny
Yeah. So I was going to get there.
Jordan
But yeah, I had allergic reaction to the antibiotic which went to the doctor. Then I had, that night I had a G gallbladder attack, which is basically.
Danny
Like a six hour heart attack.
Jordan
That same week I found out I had Covid, which was also really intense. Probably the worst of them all. No, probably the go the hospital visit and then. Yeah. All while pregnant. So you can't really take much.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
But yeah, so I think all of those. There was just like multiple things happening and then the GERD attack. And so then we went into the hospital that night. Yeah, that was hard.
Danny
Well, I mean, it was, it was. Yeah. I mean, I just felt bad because, I mean, it's, it's really not fair that a human being should be carrying another human being and have that many strain, strands of virus or bacterial infections.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
Which is not fair.
Jordan
I agree.
Danny
But you know, you powered through pretty great.
Jordan
Yeah, I made it. I'm here. I feel okay today.
Danny
80.
Jordan
Yeah, probably. I felt better yesterday, funny enough. I know. But my throat kind of hurts again, so. You know, I probably have the flu now.
Danny
It's actually shocking that I'm not sick yet.
Jordan
Summit is super sick now. I'm really worried about him.
Danny
Drop like flies.
Jordan
Yeah. So. But yeah, I, I, I mentally stayed strong.
Danny
I think you really did.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
I'm proud of you.
Jordan
Yeah, I, I fought, I fought.
Danny
You fought the good fight. You fought the good fight for sure. And I mean, honestly, you weren't even gonna. I could tell you didn't want to go into the hospital. You really didn't want to go.
Jordan
Oh, to for GERD or for the golf letter.
Danny
You held out for as long as you could.
Jordan
Well, because they don't do anything and they give you fentanyl, which lasts like only 20 minutes. So it's like.
Danny
And then you just like, need more and more. And that's like, that's the problem.
Jordan
Yeah. And. But it's just like, honestly, it's just a, a time suck and it takes away from your sleep.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
You just, like, wait around for so long that I was like, I'd rather do this at home if I can.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
And. And then it just got. I think I had been going through it for, like, five hours, and I was like, I'm just, I'm too tired of feeling pain.
Danny
Yeah. During the, it was a bummer because it happened during the, the playoff game.
Jordan
Yeah. Well, you kept watching the game.
Danny
I know. I was. Well, okay, let me be clear. There was nothing I could do about the gerd. I, I, I was emotionally supportive. I left, went to cbs. I got all the anti acids.
Jordan
Yeah. So I can kind of tell, like, what happened that night.
Danny
Yeah. Yeah.
Jordan
So I went to bed really early that night. I was hoping to we put the kids to bed, and I think maybe because I had Covid already, and I didn't know I had Covid at the time. I don't know. I just, like, didn't have, like, an appetite that day. So I ate really late. Like, I think I had my first meal at, like, 5 o', clock, which is not like me. I'm usually, like, chowing down all day long. So at five o', clock, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna eat. What did I have? What did I tell you that I had?
Danny
Oh, we went to.
Jordan
We didn't go anywhere that night. No, I made dinner at home. Oh, I think I had that soup. Remember, I had the soup that, like, we had for our kids. It was, like, a very healthy, like, chicken noodle soup type of thing. So I had that soup. And then, because I was. Oh, my. My aura ring was telling me that, like, for the past three or four days from that uti, that I was, like, really stressed out and I wasn't sleeping well because I had to pee so much. So I was like, I'm gonna go to bed early. Like, I get, I'm gonna get all my, like, eight hours. So I made myself some peppermint tea. And this tea that I made was, like, a special one I've been, like, saving for a long time for, like, a special night that I wanted to relax. So I got in bed and started watching, like, Landman or something. And, like, probably 20 minutes into my tea, I was like, oh, gosh. I started to have, like, really, really bad heart pains or chest pains. And I was like, no, please, no. Because I know exactly what this feels like. So I basically. I call it laboring. I basically labored by myself for an hour because I was like, I'm not going to tell Jordan because it's probably going to go away in an hour. I took my Tums, I took my Pepcid. I was like, I'm not going to make a big deal of it because sometimes that happens where it just, like, happens for, like, 10 minutes and goes away. Yeah. So then after an hour, I was like, this isn't going away. This is gonna stay for the night. So I went out and told Jordan. By this time, it's like, probably nine o', clock, and he's watching the football game. And I'm like, listen, I think this is gonna be a bad one. And so it progressively got worse. And so we kept, like, looking up stuff on chat GPT. What do you do? So finally he was like, okay, I'll go to the store. There's this, like, magnesium drink that was supposed to help. And. And he did.
Danny
He also said one thing you should avoid was peppermint. Peppermint?
Jordan
Yeah. Which I just didn't know. And I thought I was doing, like, a good thing. And. Oh, that was. The other thing is I had been eating really healthy because I had. I was trying to, like, get rid of this uti, so I was, like, really trying to eat, like, more bland foods that, like, weren't super acidic or anything. And so I was, like, actually doing really well with my diet because I was so, like, over this UTI anyway, so I thought the peppermint tea would be, like, good for me, like, good for digestion and all of that. And then I just, like, screwed, like, shot myself in the foot. So anyway, we did all that. He came back. By this time, it's been, like, two hours. And so that. That third hour, we call one, like our nanny, and we're like, hey, can you come over? Like, we might have to go to the hospital. So we did another labor, like, for, like, another hour. And I was like, I'm not going in. I don't want to. I'm like, we've. We've already done this for three or four hours. Like, it'll be gone soon. And it just didn't. So then we just drove to the hospital.
Danny
We got home at, like, what, three?
Jordan
3:00Am Yeah, I think I went to bed at like, four.
Danny
Yeah, three or four. I had. I had. I mean, all things considered. I had a lot of fun with you, though, that night. We talked about the Roman Empire.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
People you got a little bit like, you got a little loopy on the fentanyl. You weren't like that loop.
Jordan
I did not get loopy.
Danny
You did a little bit. You were just like, you know, you were happier and there was a moment you looked at me and you go, I don't think you feel bad for me. Remember that? And you kind of gave me a whole, a whole speech about. We were also kind of delirious.
Jordan
I think that was like, after it had worn off, though.
Danny
Oh, okay.
Jordan
Honestly, it didn't make me loopy at all.
Danny
Oh, yeah, Bummer. All that for nothing.
Jordan
No, I'm just saying, like, don't take fentanyl, kids. Yeah, well, the funny thing is it, it did end up helping. But like, honestly, the first, like 20 minutes, like, I, I was still in pain too.
Danny
You know what? I thought they took great care of you.
Jordan
But.
Danny
And this is all, this is all protocol. But you know what I thought was kind of crazy is what would happen is first you call the on site nurse from the OB office and you're like, here's what I'm going through. So you explain it all. It takes you like five minutes to explain what you're going through. And you're in pain and you're like, it's, it's level eight. Then you go to the check in counter and you have to explain to them what you're going through. Then they put you in a bed and you have to explain it to the nurse what you're going through.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
And so everyone knows by this point that you're in pain. And then they have to bring in the actual doctor and you got to tell her what you're going through.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
Then they bring in the OB on site. You have to tell her what you're going through. Then they give you the pain meds.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
Well, it just. I almost advocated for you. I wanted to like, trust the process, but it was crazy. Like, you're literally breathing in pain.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
You're like. Yeah, it's like an eight. I feel like I'm in labor. You're like kind of groaning like you're in labor.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
And you have to keep telling people what you're feeling.
Jordan
I know.
Danny
Well, but I guess, you know, there should be a lot of checks and balances before they just hand out fentanyl. I guess.
Jordan
Yeah. They give you such a small amount that I don't think it's like, actually, I don't that dangerous. But, but like, I think that it's protocol, especially because we didn't go to the er. We went to late, like labor delivery. So it was actually more about like checking to make sure baby is okay first, which I knew baby was okay because he was kicking literally non stop. Like non stop when I was going through this. But yeah, basically it kind of feels like a heart attack, like a, Like a burning chest pain, but more like stabbing actually. And then it would radiate, like, to my back, my. The middle of my back, and then like up my neck and then down to the left side of my stomach and it would go in cycles. But like, I've had a natural birth and like I would say those contractions are like nine, 10, obviously, like the ring of fire, like when you're pushing is like death. Like, you can't even put that on a scale, in my opinion. Like, it's so shocking that you basically are dead in my. What I Like, you can't even put that. So. But I would say this is like what I went through was like, or 7 or an 8 compared to like those contractions. So it's like, it was like still pretty painful.
Danny
Does it make you question doing a natural birth?
Jordan
No. You know, made me question doing a natural birth was. I just got a spray tan and I've been reading because, you know, when I did a natural birth. Sorry, unmedicated birth. All births are natural.
Danny
Is this.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
Oh, the property.
Jordan
Yeah. Yeah. Politically correct. So. And. And it is actually, it's.
Danny
I get it.
Jordan
Natural birth is unmitigated. They're different. But so when I was. So now my whole algorithm is like, about like, you know, positions and things you should do or you shouldn't do in an unmedicated birth. Because, like, when I did it last time, like, I literally decided like two weeks prior, and I was like, I think I'm going to try this thing and like, see what happens. And I read nothing. Like, I had.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
No plan. I had no idea what I was doing. And there's a lot of things I would do differently now. Like the major number one thing is pushing on your back. Like laying down in that position and pushing the baby out is just like. So I swear it added to like the torture. It felt like a torturous thing whenever I. I do think that most people that push probably push like standing up. Like gravity, like, it's like, comes out. Like, you know, you don't lay on it. Like, that slows down the. The process anyway, so that's like the number one thing. But I've been fed like all these. These videos of like, how to prepare and how to breathe. And another thing that I did that was like, apparently like a big no no is like, when you're pushing, you shouldn't be making faces. And like, your. Your face shouldn't get red because you should really focus all of that energy down like, there. And like, I watch videos back of me and like, I'm like, like, my face, it's like all the pressures in my head. And so. So I. They were like, one of the things you can do to prepare is to take ice cubes and hold ice cubes and try not to, like, clench your face and not to make a face and just like, breathe through it, like, and like, through the pain. Basically, like, train your brain to, like, breathe through the pain instead of like, tensing up, you know, because that just takes more energy away from, like, where it should be focused. So I've been thinking about doing it, but, like, I also. You know how I am with cold plunges. Like, I cannot, like, I am the worst at, like, that mental pain when it comes to cold. I cannot do it. I can do it with a shot. It's weird, like, when I get shots or like, pricks or anything. Like, I can, like, breathe and like, not think about it and like, let that pain happen over there, but if it's cold. So anyway, I went to go get a spray soon today and I. One of the reasons I hate getting spray tins is because they're so cold. Like, the formula that they use is like ice cold water. Like, that's what it feels like. And it's.
Danny
They should fix that.
Jordan
I know. It's so it's fixable. Exactly. I think about this all the time.
Danny
That seems so fixable.
Jordan
Like, I'm just like, can y' all just, like, warm up your formula? Like, yeah, it's. It's torture. And like, it's only. The whole thing is only five minutes, but it is so cold. And so when they spray your chest in your back and it's like already like, cold outside, and then you go into a room and you get butt naked and then you spray, it's just like.
Danny
It's like putting on sunscreen.
Jordan
I just can't help but, like, you know, clench. And so I was like, oh, this will be really good training for me today. So I went in and I was like, like. Because I always get really, really, like, stressed during that part, and I was like, trying to breathe through it. I. I couldn't do it. Yeah, I couldn't do it.
Danny
Well, you don't feel cold Though, whenever you're giving.
Jordan
No, but it's just a way to like, breathe through the pain.
Danny
You did pretty well during the, the gird attack.
Jordan
Not really. I was like screaming.
Danny
I mean, yeah, I mean, you, you definitely clinch up your body and stuff.
Jordan
But I was like, why is this happening? I hate that this is happening. This is the worst day ever. Why is this happening? Please help me. Please, please go away.
Danny
I don't, I don't think the rule for giving a unmedicated birth though, is that you're stoic through the whole thing.
Jordan
So there are some births I've been watching a lot. They're all on my feed. Like, I. This is what I do at like.
Danny
I know, but isn't that like an Instagram versus reality thing?
Jordan
No. Some of these women, like, train and they train themselves to like, just like, breathe through the pain. Like, I've watched like the whole video. Oh, my God. There was this one.
Danny
I don't want to know. I don't know.
Jordan
Can I just say it? No, no, just don't listen. Everybody else wants to hear it.
Danny
Okay.
Jordan
There was this one that I watched and it was like a five part video of this girl that was like, very. She was like, so set on doing an unmedicated at home birth. She had a doula and everything and she labored. I mean, she had the most intense contractions for probably, I don't know, six or seven hours. And this baby would just not come out. But she was like, so set on it that finally, like, the babies are come out. But if you don't get the baby out in a certain amount of time, it's like, kind of dangerous. So she ended up having an episiotomy with no, no, no pain medication, and her husband passed out next to her on the bed. And like, literally that's what saved the baby. And then what sucks is like, because apparently, like, it wasn't done right, because it was more of like a panic situation. She's had to get like three more surgeries because it never healed right. And it's like, so she's had to have like three more episiotomies, like, all the way. That's why I won't do it at home birth. Like, I just, I. I, like, I, I just can't. Like, I can't. And I want like the utmost, like, full medical attention. And like, if something goes wrong, I just want, I want it all, like, sure. But no, I, but here's the thing. I rem. I'm going to be honest with you. I Remember when I was. Sorry, this is two men in the room. No, Jordan, I'm sorry.
Danny
It's beautiful.
Jordan
I just remember that, like, the pain that was happening was so much worse that I was like, an episiotomy would be heaven right now. Like, that's what I thought when I was pushing. I was like, that's why I remember when I was looking at the doctor, I was like, just cut him out. Just cut him out. I kept saying, just cut it out, like, because that would have actually relieved more pain or, like, been felt better than what was going on. So honestly, that probably is what happened to her, too. But, I mean, I'm telling you, like, women are, like, pretty tough. Like, it's pretty crazy.
Danny
Well, I can't wait for maybe we just. I don't know. It's your call, your body, your choice.
Jordan
I'm gonna try it, you know.
Danny
Okay.
Jordan
My thing is, I don't like to set myself up for failure, so I don't like to be like, no, I'm gonna do it for sure, because then I'm embarrassed when I, like, tap out.
Podcast Host
You also.
Danny
It's so. I don't know how to explain it. It's so, like, the style of the Austin women to not want to train for it, but to just show up and do it and win on the spot. I don't know how to explain it. It's like, yeah, because, you know.
Jordan
Yeah, it's a little thrill.
Danny
It's a little thrill.
Jordan
No, I'm gonna be honest. The reason why I don't want to train or, like, learn too much about it is it. I overthink it, and it really starts to freak me out. And, like, I just. I, like, I overthink it, and then I don't want to do it. And so that's why a lot of times I don't. There's a lot of things where I'm just like, okay, we'll figure it out when I show up. Yeah, kind of like, the shoot I have tomorrow. I have a maternity shoot tomorrow. And, like, I literally don't know what I'm wearing. And I'm like, honestly, I don't think about it because I'll stress myself out about it.
Podcast Host
Yeah, no, and I'm glad that you're.
Danny
Not stressing yourself out about it.
Podcast Host
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Danny
Man. The only thing I would say is that we were like two weeks off from this GERD attack from having access to Chat GBT Health that they're coming out with.
Jordan
That would be cool.
Danny
That would have been awesome. Because, I mean, I queried a lot of things that are just forever going to be in the open record.
Jordan
Oh, yeah.
Danny
Like, it's like the cool thing about ChatGPT Health is private. It's. Yeah, it's HIPAA compliant and they combine all of your medical data so you can like port in your medical records.
Jordan
Oh, no way.
Danny
And like the history of what you've gone through.
Jordan
What are like concierge doctors going to do?
Danny
No, I. 100%. I'm like, I'm not. It's going to take a lot to get me to the doctor. My doctor's been asking me for a physical for.
Jordan
Can this doctor, like order you tests and stuff? Like a COVID test or like.
Danny
Well, I don't know how it's going to evolve. But like right now everyone's asking ChatGPT for health information, but it's like going into, like it's not really private or protected.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
But now it's like, if you treat it like a therapist, like those are like protected conversations. Like, they can't be brought up in court or anything like that. It's all hipaa.
Jordan
Wow.
Danny
Which is crazy. And like, I do function health and so like, I'm getting my blood work tomorrow and then on Thursday, let's ask.
Jordan
Chat gbt, like, what's the craziest thing that we've asked you in 2025 and we don't have to share it, but like, let's see if it's shareable.
Danny
Okay.
Jordan
Okay, you go. First years are funnier.
Danny
You see is that you seriously explored moving your family to Nashville and turning. Turning a mansion into a multi entity, multi creator content house.
Jordan
You did.
Danny
Well. Your mom was like, I'm not going to move. And I was like, okay, how do.
Podcast Host
I get her there?
Danny
And then I Was like, maybe I'll make it like a content house. And then. Yeah.
Jordan
Anything else?
Danny
No. That's not even that bad.
Jordan
I know. I feel like I asked way worse questions than this.
Danny
Me too.
Jordan
Mine said, it's funny because you don't ask crazy in a chaotic way. You ask unhinged but logical questions. Does hummus make you get puffy?
Danny
That's like, so what I expected. You're.
Jordan
When does sharing become over? Sharing? If your life is your brand.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
I mean, oh, can you give us kids? And I put a picture of me and you, and I just wanted to see if Chat GBT's kids looked like my kids now.
Danny
Oh, did it? No, no, no. The next was the honorable runner up was designing an entire if I die operational binder in case I died because I felt really concerned about that there was something that happened to me recently. Maybe this is the plane. I don't know. We weren't prepared though.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
You didn't know the passwords.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
What else is crazy that's going on? Oh, also health related. New food pyramid.
Jordan
Yeah, that's good. I feel like there's a lot of stuff going on in the world.
Danny
So much going on.
Jordan
Like, I mean, can we talk about the good and the bad? Can you just fill us in? I've been so sick for so long.
Danny
A lot is going on in the world. I feel like I, I, every time I open Twitter right now, it is like, boom. It's like, whoa, that happened today. It's like, I think it's because midterms are coming up and so, like, everyone's ripping. Like, well, the, like, like the administration is like, ripping to try and get results and make big headlines and waves.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
So it's like reforming housing affordability. It's like defense contractors. No more stock buybacks. It's like, new food pyramid. Yeah. And it's definitely like. I think I also read that they're now starting to release a bunch of the stuff about, like, the 2020 election, you know, because he, he stood by his claim that it was stolen. So he's like releasing a bunch of information there. Then there's the daycare thing. And so it's like, yeah, the Somalian daycare. Yeah, it's ripping right now.
Jordan
So sorry, I'm. I like, I literally don't know what's going on, so don't come for me. But basically the Somalian daycare situation was just. They were. Is this super politicized?
Danny
I mean, or.
Jordan
I feel like this is really.
Danny
Well, okay, so here's here's the objective take is that there are, there are welfare programs within the government of Minneapolis that a large part of it is for child daycares. So like, you can run a daycare and basically the government pays to employ your people and to help you run it. Well, they. The claim is that there are hundreds, if not thousands of ghost daycares.
Jordan
So kind of like ghost rehabs.
Danny
Yes, or like ghost. They're starting to uncover that in like addiction centers too, which is definitely true.
Jordan
I've read a lot of.
Danny
Yeah, so it's like these ghost daycares and ghost addiction therapies that are funneling millions of dollars out of the government and into pockets. But then there's like a rot smart criminals. But then there's a rotating door of like, then those criminals that are getting the dollars, funneling them back into political campaigns. So the revolving door is like.
Jordan
Wait, so you're saying the Somalians are funding political campaigns?
Danny
Well, so the Somalians are just a large population in Minneapolis that over the past, like call it 5 to 10 years have opened a lot of daycares. No, they, they. Well, first of all, they, they. They migrated to Minneapolis. They were welcomed into Minneapolis, and now there's a huge population of Somalians in Minneapolis. So nothing wrong with that.
Podcast Host
Totally.
Danny
Fine.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
But of these, like the welfare fraud, the accusation is that this is largely done within the Somalian community.
Jordan
Okay.
Danny
So that's where kind of like the racket is happening and held. And so I don't, I don't like.
Jordan
Like, I don't really care, like who's. I'm just trying to figure out what they're doing. So yeah, there's people.
Danny
There's like a whole. I think what they think is there's a whole ecosystem. So there's like the government programs, then there's the politicians that either know or don't know about it. So they're trying to figure out like was were the politicians complicit in this?
Jordan
Kind of like when, like they look the other way. CIA or the FBI like knows about us working with the cartel or whatever. But it's like, hey, we just gotta do it.
Danny
Exactly.
Jordan
Cause it betters the whole country.
Danny
So then, so then it's like, what? Politicians knew it. And then it's like, these immigrants are probably not applying for this on their own. So then there's like a whole slew of law firms.
Jordan
How does this happen?
Danny
And like people like application, hand holding and like that apparatus of people.
Jordan
It's very complicated.
Danny
It's very complicated. And most likely it's a whole just, like, if, you know, you know, type of ecosystem. And so. But they're saying biggest fraud in, like, probably our country's history.
Jordan
How many billions.
Danny
Do you know?
Jordan
I think, like, 30 billion or something, or 132 billion or something like that.
Danny
No, it's like, it. It's at least tens of billions. But here's the crazy thing is that. So what's so interesting is that they're, like, uncovering this in Minneapolis now, but then there's, like, New York, there's California, there's, like, all of these other states that have these large welfare programs as well.
Jordan
Well, one of.
Danny
And then they're also asking, like, you know, for example, Spencer Pratt from the Hills, he's running for mayor. Did you know that? Yeah, the big headline. I think this is the most interesting headline.
Jordan
Like when Kanye ran for president. Question mark.
Danny
No, it's different. It hits different because he's been basically calling out the fraud within the Pacific Palisades, like, oh, yeah, fire aid that just com. Like, most of the money either, like, didn't go towards rebuilding or completely disappeared. So he's running on that ticket. And Brody Jenner came out and, like, highly endorsed him and was like, listen, Spencer Pratt graduated police political science from usc. He is one of the smartest people that I know. Like, he is not just a reality TV star. He knows what he's doing and, like, legitimately endorsed him for mayor.
Jordan
Wow.
Danny
And a lot of people are coming behind him because what's happening is it's.
Podcast Host
Almost like this Minnesota thing.
Danny
Like, they started yanking at a ball of yarn, and now all of these threads are leading back to, okay, what happened to the money that was taxpayer money in the Pacific Palisade thing? And then it's like, okay, well, then also, why do we keep losing, like, billions of dollars that we devote towards, like, California homelessness cleanup? So what I think is happening is that, like, all of these things that are sort of built around, like, seemingly good empathetic programs are becoming okay. Like, are these real? Are these actually providing aid? Or is this totally fraud? So that's what's interesting.
Jordan
So much of it is such a mess.
Danny
Oh, it's a total mess. But honestly, I think that what I find to be the most disgusting thing about it is, like, I think about, like, people that we employ at divi or, like, the average working American who's having to make a decision of, do I. Can I afford to have more children because I can't afford for my wife or my Husband to stay at home. Because we can't also afford daycare. Because daycare cost for the people who are not getting subsidies is like this up into the right. So the cost of living is completely inflated, and we have a population crisis. So people. Families who legitimately want to have more kids can't afford to do so. So if our tax dollars, which prevent our ability to keep up with the cost of living because they go to the government, are then being reallocated and fraudulently taken by non American citizens who are, like, taking advantage of programs, like, that's. I would be very angry if we were in that position.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
It's horrible.
Jordan
No, for sure. Or. And a lot of people are angry.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Danny
I don't know. I can't tell people how angry people are. I think we're like.
Podcast Host
I think most.
Danny
It feels like people are so disillusioned, and they're like, cool, you discovered it. But nothing's gonna happen. No one's gonna go to jail. Like, nothing's gonna happen.
Jordan
Especially after Epstein files.
Danny
Yeah. It's kind of like we're just stuck in this broken system and, you know.
Jordan
Like, what are we gonna do? And then I think a lot of people thought, oh, Trump is not a politician. He'll come in and. And, you know, do a lot of crazy things. And then, like, his first month, he's like, forget about the Epstein files.
Danny
Yeah. The only thing I would say is that. Because what this is doing, I would say what. So that's what the right is saying is like, this is fraud. It's all in the Somalians. Then what the left is saying is like, you know, Trump is like mobilizing a militia that is ICE to pin this fraud on one community to get immigrants out to.
Jordan
Because, well, everyone's probably taking advantage of the situation to prove their point.
Danny
And they're still framing it. It's all framing. So. So what I. What I get confused by is maybe we're all. Because we're in midterm season. I hope that, like, maybe it is a situation where this is being framed by the right against one immigrant population. Like, maybe it's not all just the Somalians that are taking care, you know, advantage of it. It may be, like, a large percentage because it's cultural or like, oh, I know, my friend also moved to America. You got to move to America. You know, there's this program. You just open a daycare, put an address up, and you're fine.
Jordan
Yeah. It might just be like a thing that. That happens. I mean, but I remember Reading about the rehab, like sober living centers in. I think it was California, Arizona, like more on the West Coast. But they were taking advantage of Native Americans and they were targeting like alcoholic, drug. Drug. Drug addicts that were Native American and using their insurance.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
To like basically pay themselves. But they didn't. A lot of times they would take in these Native Americans that were sick and just basically keep them sick so that they could keep on. Like.
Danny
Yeah. Because you're not incentivized to get them healthy. That was. That's a real story.
Jordan
That's a real story that like, it, it. They like discovered all these people. A lot of them went to jail and it was like, I mean, hundreds of millions of dollars and it was crazy. So, yeah, this stuff, this stuff definitely does happen. But I agree with you where like Theo Von always talks about it and he's like, okay, so now what? Like, nothing's going to change. And that's what's so disheartening about it. And I could totally see how everyone just uses these stories in these big things to prove the point that they want to prove. And there are so many angles to these stories. I always wonder though, if like one of these big politicians came in and like just sided with the other side or understood the other side publicly, like, would that.
Danny
Well, it always comes down to like, right or left issues. So they do side with the other side. It just depends on who the other side is.
Jordan
No, but I'm saying, like, if Trump came in and was like, yeah, like, I agree with the left. Like, I see what Yalls point and like, I hate that. It does make it seem like we're targeting like one community. But that's really not what this is about. Like that, you know, And I'm sorry, I'm just like putting words in. I not make. But like. Or would that just infuriate the right. Because they'd be like, you're not. You're. You're a fair weather.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
Fan. And like, you're just. You know, I just, sometimes I wish that I feel like.
Danny
I feel like there's a way to solve this. Do you want to hear my way?
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
The way to solve this is. I think that the way to solve this is he uproots the fraud. Okay. So he solves the fraud issue. Because the fraud issue is like, what is taking all of our tax dollars. So like property taxes, you know, like all of our tax. And it goes to the government, which is the most inefficient entity in allocating our money. So like everyone's milking off of us as Americans, the defense contractors. Everyone is being milked because they're, like, all charged 30%. More like, when these school bonds come up in, like, different cities. I remember I was at this, like, event, and they. One city council member for Dallas was talking about how they. For a student share, they were trying to charge $2,000. You know those chairs that we had in public school? Like, a chair. Like, literally a chair that the students. The desk. And then they had, like, the plastic chairs.
Jordan
Do you remember those blue ones?
Danny
The blue ones, yes. They were charging $2,000 for each of those.
Jordan
Oh, okay.
Danny
Just taking advantage of these bonds that come up that, like, if you're in Rockwell county, you have to, like, your taxes increase to pay the bond to get this new school in. But then everything is inflated because the government's not vetting and controlling costs on the actual execution of building high schools and things like that. So I feel like everyone is happy if Trump uproots the fraud, makes our tax dollars more efficient by cutting off all things that are fraudulent, and then cuts income tax, which he's talked about this year. He was like, we're really close, I think, to being able to, like, actually cut income tax. Because then if you cut income tax, it's like, no harm, no foul. Like, we can all forgive each other. It's not a writer versus right versus left issue. It's like, okay, fine, that was. Then you. You wasted all my tax dollars. But I'm happy now because my tax dollars are back. Now I can pay for child care myself. Like, I don't need the government to subsidize it. You know, I have more money in my pocket as an American. And honestly, if they're trying to win the midterms, like, everyone's happy. What leftist is going to be like, oh, I want to pay more in taxes. I don't care what they say. They may say that, but when you. When they're, like, actually not able to survive because they have to pay more in taxes, there's just no way. Everyone wins if we cut taxes.
Jordan
Just saying that makes sense.
Danny
Maybe it. Maybe it will happen this year, and then the economy would rip.
Jordan
Would rip.
Danny
It would rip.
Jordan
That'd be fun. Well, I'm. I'm. Are you trying to run for president or something?
Danny
No, I'm just saying, like, I've thought about how you fix this, because now it's, like, such a politicized issue. It's like, if you speak against the daycare fraud, you're racist. It's like, becoming that essentially. Okay, so, like, how do you solve that? You get rid of the fraud, which I think everyone would probably universally be okay with. You stop targeting the Somalians. Just get rid of the fraud.
Podcast Host
Don't.
Danny
It's not about Somalians.
Jordan
Sorry, can I just ask a question? Like, I really don't know anything. Are people, like, defending The Somalians?
Danny
Yeah, 100%. They're.
Jordan
Oh, they're, like, saying that they need this. Like, they.
Danny
I don't know. Do you know? I don't know if they're saying they need it. I think they're defending. So it. The fraud. When it comes to the Somalians, the fraud isn't even talked about.
Podcast Host
It's.
Danny
It's. The accusation is that the fraud is being framed in a way to actually target a minority immigrant group.
Jordan
Oh. But. Oh, gosh. Okay.
Danny
I know it's. It's confusing.
Jordan
Okay. Okay.
Danny
I don't think we know.
Jordan
Okay.
Danny
But now it's like ice. It's just like this whole complicated thing.
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I think we all agree that ghost daycares are bad and not fair for average Americans. But you just never know. You get lost in these talking points. I know at Planet Fitness, which honestly, I should be sponsored by, I've realized this. I'm the only one who is an advocate of Planet Fitness in the influencer world. They always have CNN and Fox News up.
Jordan
I love that.
Danny
No, it's great. And then like ESPN is like in the middle and I'm like, I'm always trying to piece together.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
What's going on. Yeah. It really is crazy. If you put those two next to each other. How crazy. How crazy polarized things really are.
Jordan
How different the same story can turn into. Yeah.
Danny
Like if Trump's ever doing something good, Fox News has it up. And immediately. Then CNN is not covering it, like objectively good. And CNN is not covering it. And instead talking about some other scandal that he had and.
Jordan
And vice versa.
Danny
And vice versa.
Jordan
It's crazy.
Danny
But we've known that for forever.
Jordan
Yeah. That's what makes it fun. That's what makes it so hard.
Danny
I read today that 46% of voters are now independent.
Jordan
Really?
Danny
It's like the highest ever on record. Which means that we're all basically disassociating from left and right, the extreme right and the extreme left. And it's great. Which is great because the more to.
Jordan
Think ourselves with our brains, the more.
Danny
Common sense the politicians can be, the more like they'll probably rise to power.
Jordan
I kind of love that. I also think that like, it's like 50 of people just don't want to put on paper what they are because they're scared of the other. But that's okay. Wow.
Danny
Vote Spencer Pratt. I'm kidding. I don't live in California, so I don't. I don't really know if you should.
Jordan
Well, what else is going on? I have to pee, but I can't wait.
Danny
Yeah, let's just finish this out.
Jordan
Okay. I'll just get another eti. It's fine. Can we move on to something just like a little bit more light hearted? Because I feel like that was also heavy and you know, usually you asked. No, I know it because you. To be honest, usually I'm very up to date with these things. Like I. I go, I deep dive. Like the past month or so. Like I'm really preparing for baby and like, I just don't. I'm like, maternal instincts kick in. I'm like, I don't care what's going on in the world right now. Like, all I care about is like, what's right in front of me. And I don't have time to like, like, I'm like, I. This is what I need. So I'm like nesting. I'm like more concerned about like taking care of myself, my mental health, my kids health, and like so the world is just spinning around me. So I expect you to like, if you can take care of us. Yeah. Just let me know if anything really bad happens.
Danny
We're not going to be affected. I mean, we are, but we're also. We have zero control over all these things happening. But it's fun to know about them.
Jordan
Yeah, well, we're all affected by this.
Danny
Memes are just so great right now. Yeah, like some of the best memes really, since COVID It's got to be me. Show you some.
Jordan
Okay, you save them.
Danny
Yeah, save them all. The memes are just so good. This one is Maduro, the Venezuela president.
Podcast Host
And Diddy.
Danny
It's an AI video dancing in a jail cell together.
Jordan
Oh, gosh.
Podcast Host
I'll show you.
Jordan
Hold on.
Danny
Here it Is here. AI is really good. Oh, sorry, sorry. That was Logan, Paul.
Jordan
Oh, funny.
Danny
Yeah, it's good. I gotta. I gotta stay entertained out here because, you know, you're entering into that third trimester.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
You gave me a warning on my birthday. You said, hey, I think it's about to get really hard.
Jordan
Yeah. I said, please don't touch me.
Danny
Please don't touch me. She doesn't like to be talked to in certain hours. So I've really spent this time. I started listening to Dan Carlin's.
Podcast Host
History.
Danny
Like, what's it called? Hardcore history.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
On the Roman Empire. Been really keeping up with current events. Good hobbies, thinking about how to save America. Hobbies.
Jordan
Have you told everybody about your newest infection?
Danny
No.
Jordan
You don't want people to know.
Danny
Well, it's fine.
Jordan
Jordan has ringworm, and it's really big and really bad, and he doesn't, to.
Danny
Be fair, it's in the shape of a heart.
Jordan
It's huge.
Danny
You never have acknowledged that it is in the shape.
Jordan
Also, you're not supposed to don't touch it. And you're not supposed to cover it up.
Danny
Look, it's a heart.
Jordan
I know, babe. I get. You're not supposed to cover it up. And so this is what's so annoying about Jordan is like, he's very. He's particular about the things that he cares about. Okay. Like, I mean, he either cares 100% or could not give an F. And ringworm is just one thing he could give an F about. Like, he just doesn't care. And it is so annoying to me because it's highly contagious if you share towels or anything. By the way, like, every time you get a shower, he hangs his towel back up, and I'm like, I put it in the. In the washer dryer. Did you know I do that for you every single day? Because you're basically trying to get me ringworm. Anyway, so the other day I found him some, like, anti, you know, fungal cream that you're supposed to use an app. Whatever you use on app for athlete's foot is the same thing you use on that. But that doesn't go away. Ringworm doesn't go away unless you treat it. I mean, it can stay for months and you have to treat it, like, twice a day. And it's super, super contagious. Like, if you. If I just touch it, then I could get it. And so I got him this cream. I put it next to his bed, and I can always tell that he doesn't use it. Because it's in the same position, like, it's not being used, you know? And we had this, like, staycation for his birthday. And I was like, listen, you have to use it consistently for 48 hours, like, or I'm not gonna sleep in the same bed as you, like, for your birthday. Because I was like, that was, like.
Danny
The whole point of my birthday. And so we were really gearing up for that one.
Jordan
And so he, like, still was, like, not using the cream. And so I went into. I would say, like, probably like three nights ago. I went over to him and I was like, listen, I just want you to know that if I get ringworm because you're not taking care of yourself, I will kill you. I was like, I will be. This is when I had Covid UTI gerd attack hospital visits. I was like, if I get ringworm on top of all of this because you can't put a cream on at night and in the morning, I will be very, very angry with you. Like, more than you know. And I have kept track of every time he has used that cream since I've said that. Zero.
Podcast Host
No.
Jordan
Zero. No, no, it's zero. And then that night, though, I asked him. I was like, okay, like, put it on. So he puts it on his leg and then grabs my face towel and. And wipes his hands off on my face.
Danny
He threw the face towel in the dirty clothes, and I said, I'm sorry.
Jordan
And then he puts it back on the counter. And I look down, he goes, oh, sorry. And I had an itchy eye that week, too. And I was like, oh, my God, this is probably.
Danny
There's like a. It's so funny because you're so right about caring 100% or 0%. And there's this toxic urge in me to, like, be so stubborn about this.
Jordan
I know.
Danny
Like, I would rather move the bottle as though I used it than actually apply the cream.
Jordan
So you want ringworm? Like, that's disgusting.
Danny
No, I don't want it. I just don't think about it. I'm like, oh, I'll get to this when it becomes a problem to me.
Jordan
Yeah, it's about to become a problem if you don't take care of it. It's huge. Your ringworm is huge.
Danny
No, it's going away. It seems like.
Jordan
No, I.
Danny
For some reason in my mind, I'm like, this thing will clear up with some vitamin D and sun.
Jordan
It doesn't. That's what's. That's why, like, dogs have to take, like, the ringworm. Medication. It's super contagious. Like, it's like that. You actually have to take care. It's like a serious thing.
Danny
It just doesn't. It just doesn't seem that serious because it's shaped like a heart.
Jordan
How does ringworm go away?
Danny
I really. We don't. We also don't know if it's ringworm. I mean, we asked.
Jordan
It's a hundred percent ringworm.
Danny
Again, chat. GPD Health is not out yet. I don't know. I mean, like, honestly, Danny, I've got. I'm about to have to get on a lifelong medication because I was diagnosed with eczema. Did you know that? Lifelong. I gotta go to this weird pharmacy and get it. So, like, you know, skin issues to me are just, like, table stakes. It's like the cost of living.
Jordan
I'm just. But I understand this, like, so, like, I'll be honest with you. This isn't about you at this point. It's about our kids and your pregnant wife. It has, like, I'm gonna be having a newborn, okay, that's gonna get ringworm. I. I, like, honestly, I don't care if you don't care about it now. It's everybody else that we care about.
Danny
Okay. Okay. You're right. I. I'm going to go downstairs right after this. I'm going put on the athlete's foot, clear this sucker up for a month.
Jordan
You have to put it on, like, for a long time.
Danny
I think you said 48 hours till it goes away. Okay. Gosh. So I. My new routine is I've got to do my medicube on my face.
Jordan
Oh, my gosh.
Danny
I got to do. I got to do my eczema lotion on my chest and my back. And now I got to put athlete's foot on my shin. You got to understand, the reason you're experiencing such a hesitation from me is that. That's a long morning routine, babe.
Jordan
The rage that's coming through my body.
Danny
Right now, that's a long morning routine. And then I got to take all my supplements. Going to brush my teeth.
Jordan
And then you're like, danny, where's my outfit? Where's my outfit for the wedding? Well, you didn't. You didn't. You didn't iron my shirt even though I told you I had everything ready the night before.
Danny
Oh, your point is, is that, like, you're trying to take care of me by telling me about the.
Jordan
No, I'm talking about that one time.
Danny
No, I know. I get it. I'll do it. I'LL do it. Okay.
Jordan
It's like, you. You can't take.
Danny
I'm just gonna need to wake up, like, 40 minutes earlier.
Jordan
Yeah. It'll take you a very long time. My point is, you can't take care of other people if you don't take care of yourself.
Danny
No, I know. That's why I shower first thing in the morning. It's very methodical, because if I'm not. If I'm not my best self before I leave the bedroom, there's. There's no. There's no breaks after I leave the bedroom.
Jordan
Okay.
Danny
You get what I'm saying? Like, it's the same reason. Like, you know. Yeah, I totally get that method right now.
Jordan
I just see you as, like, a smoker who won't stop smoking.
Danny
And I'm like, it's not that big of a problem.
Jordan
I'm like, you have, like, a huge ringworm on your leg that you just, like, forget about. Yeah. Okay. We'll move on to something lighter because, you know, my hormones are rocking and.
Danny
Yeah, they're rocking and rolling.
Jordan
They're rocking and rolling. So have you heard about the Ashley Tisdale drama?
Danny
No, actually. Would you tell me about it?
Jordan
So it's kind of funny. It's like. It's not actually, like, relevant to my life, but it's, like, relevant to, like, a lot of moms out there. So I feel like we should talk about it. So Ashley Tisdale, she's basically in this mom group.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
Where a lot of these moms got pregnant in, like, 2020. And some of the other moms in the group are Meghan Trainor, Mandy Moore, Hillary Duff. There's like, probably, like, eight moms. Eight to ten moms. They all hang out together. They do everything together, go on trips together. It's kind of like, sounds like this.
Danny
Is never going to break up.
Jordan
Like, mom talk, but, like, sounds like minimal drama. It's like celebrity talk. So Ashley Tisdale basically came out with an article. I think it was for the cut. Let me see. I actually wrote it down. So basically, Ashley Tisdale came out with an essay called Breaking up with My Toxic Mom Group. And in it, she explained how she had been hurt and excluded and felt like this. This mom group that she was a part of, it felt like very, like high school drama. And she's written about this and, like, mentioned this, like, in the public, like, two or three times. Like, it's kind of become like her. Her thing that she's been sharing, and she's like. A lot of people were like, wow. We find it so relatable. But then after people started to do more, like, research, they realized, oh, she's a part of this, like, very big, like, celebrity group and she's friends with all these people. So at first a lot of people thought that it was because Ashley Tisdale was maga. And the same day that that kind of, like, rumor came out, her husband posted, like, a bunch of stuff, kind of like, insinuating that they weren't. So it had nothing to do with politics. So then the. The drama continued to blow up when Hillary Duff's husband, Matthew Coma, he posted a Instagram story kind of mocking all of the drama. And he is. He, like, basically shaded Tisdale and called her the most self, self absorbed, tone deaf person on earth in this, like, spoof headline. He ended up deleting it, which always is, like, a little weird to me. Like, whenever the husband.
Danny
The husband, like, gets involved, it's a toxic urge.
Podcast Host
For sure.
Danny
I've been there. But you can't do it. You never come out victorious.
Jordan
Well, it's also, like, if there's other husbands involved, like, have at it. I'm fine with that. That's cool. But, like, I just. I do feel like, like, a man should fight his own fight. Like, a woman should fight her own fight. Like, I don't like, like, men fighting women. Like, it's just really icky to me. And so basically all these people are trying to figure out, like, what exactly happened and. And why do all these people. So then Megan Trainor ended up posting, like, a post, like, another, like, sarcastic post, being like, hey, like, just don't care. And all these people in this group are basically, like, doubling down. That Ash Till is crazy. The thing is, that is tough for me is that I know that Ashley Tisdale, when she wrote these articles, she's trying to be vulnerable and she's trying to be relatable and she's trying to be helpful and. But, like, we all know what's gonna happen. There's so many examples or so many, like, things I can think of in my mind where, like, I've had drama with friends, but, like, I know I can't share it because people are gonna figure, like, they're gonna know who it is. There's no way, like, if I share anything, like, any. Any detail, people are gonna like, okay, we're gonna. We know who that is.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
And I'm not even, like, like, their level of celebrity. So, like, to me, I'm like, ashley, like, you knew what you were doing. It kind of gives me a little bit of the ick. And I think she's, like, super hungry for attention. And I'm kind of with the group on this one. I think it's also like. I don't know. I just feel like whenever the whole group agrees on something, and, like, one person doesn't.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
And one person is the quote unquote victim. I'm like, but why are you the victim? Like, I don't know. Not always, but it just seems to me like I don't. There. Maybe it was, like, warranted. And people. You know, what's. What happens is. And I know what happens in these situations. Like, there's either. There's two scenarios. One where Ashley Tisdale just doesn't really have much to offer. Like, she's just kind of there. She gets left out because people just, like, don't really care. And, like, she's maybe shy and just, like, doesn't really. I don't know. And then because I. I feel like I've been in that situation in friend groups where, like, I've gotten left out. And it's not because people didn't like me. They just kind of, like, forgot about me. Like, you know, but then I feel like there's another scenario where, like, people, like, secretly can't stand her. And they're like, you know, please, like, can we not invite Ashley? You know, and when you have like, eight or 10 people in a group, like, it's also really easy to get, like, leave people out because it's like four people get together over here and then three people over here. It's like, it's so hard to.
Danny
Where our friend group has gotten so big. Just dinner reservations were not.
Jordan
No. You literally can only invite, like, six max. So then somebody's gonna get left out. And it's like, actually, nothing personal. You're just, like, trying to, like, logistically make things work. And it's just hard. But it seems like for this one people, because of, like, the comments that they're saying now, it seems like they didn't want her around. It wasn't like, they just, like, forgot.
Danny
Yeah. I'm surprised anyone's siding with her for writing an essay about this.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
As a famous public figure, so dumb.
Jordan
To even bring that attention.
Danny
She knows. She knew exactly what was gonna happen. Like, she. This whole, like, victim thing. If you're gonna, like, try and build a brand on victimhood, it'll last. So, like, you'll get it. You'll get the attention in the short term, but, like, long term, it Fades so quick.
Jordan
I think the best way to, like, help people through situations like this is to find a mom group that you really like and write the positives that you like about your, like, your friend group and say, like. Or, like, this is what I really want in a friend group. And, like, maybe I've. We've. I've struggled with, like, these themes in the past with, like, inclusion and this and that, but, you know, maybe that just, like, wasn't the right group for me. And, like, what I really appreciate about this friend, you know, and just. But when you write a whole negative, like, hit piece on, like, it's just like, what do you expect?
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
It's, like, kind of giving, like, ill. Yeah.
Danny
No, it's. She's the odd man.
Jordan
A lot of people, like, a lot of influencers.
Danny
Hillary Duff's husband shouldn't have said anything. Just big. No, no, no.
Jordan
I know. What was he thinking?
Danny
What he posts? Or do you write, like, an actual.
Jordan
He wrote, like, a story. I mean, he posted, like, an Instagram story.
Danny
I mean, I could see. I see how it's funny.
Jordan
Yeah, he did, like, a spoofy thing.
Danny
Yeah, if it's spoofy, I get it. But, like, no, but, no, it's no bueno. Because then all the other husbands got to get involved, and then it's like, an actual thing, and then it likes. Because usually I find that when the moms have drama in the group, it's like the husbands are kind of just like, let's let it blow over. Like, it'll.
Podcast Host
It'll be fine.
Danny
Like, we all kind of, like, laugh at y'. All. Unless it's when y' all are fighting.
Jordan
Unless it's Demi from Secret Lives of Moral Wives.
Danny
And no, her husband got involved, right?
Jordan
No, because she called him, and she's like, he touched me. He put his hands on me. And, like, he, like, literally just, like, poked her.
Danny
Who did?
Jordan
Remember in that scene in Secret Lives, and.
Danny
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Jordan
And that's when, like. And then when you get, like, that type of male ego where they're like, I'm protecting my own. Like, then, like, all these males get involved in, like, all of a sudden, they, like, are justified. And. Yeah, he literally, like, poked her, like, dupe. And then she's like, he touched me. And then he's like, did you touch my wife? Don't you ever touch my wife. It's, like, so silly.
Danny
I wonder what the average shelf life.
Jordan
Of mom group says.
Podcast Host
A mom group is.
Danny
I. My opinion is that the average shelf life Average. So there's better, there's worse. Is okay if it's. You're a mom group before you have kids. I think the average shelf life is three years. I think if you're a mom group and your kids are at the same school, I think the average shelf life is five years, six years.
Jordan
But here's the thing. You're kind of. I think that we have to clarify on mom groups. Typically, like, I think there's the stereotypical mom group that we're talking about has kids in the same grade in the same classes.
Danny
Okay. That's a longer lifespan.
Jordan
No, I think that's way harder.
Podcast Host
Really?
Danny
Why?
Jordan
A hundred percent. Because you are constantly comparing who got the. Who got the best grade. Sarah got this. Sarah left me out of the birthday party. Like, trust me, I've. I know because my mom was best friends with this lady and, and her daughter was like, Was in my same class. And we weren't even like that good of friends, but we were, we were friends because our moms were friends. Now my mom's friend group, where we were all spread out different ages, that group stayed together. I mean, I think that they were friends for like 30, 40 years because. Because all their kids were in such different stages of life and like, we all were in such different things at different schools, private school, public school, athletes, musicians, that when we got together, it was just like every. Nobody. There was no competition. But I'm telling you, when these girl moms, I've seen it. I've seen it myself. Like when these girl moms get together and all the girls in their same grade and then they find out, well, Sarah and, and Sarah and Michelle, you know, they all went to the lake and they didn't invite, you know, Jessica. And then Jessica's mom is like, well, why wasn't I invited too? No, it's.
Danny
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Jordan
It's super hard.
Danny
I thought that being in the same class would give you a reason to uphold the integrity of the group longer. Whereas, like, the reason I said the shelf life is before you have kids because what happens is, like, people have kids, people go to different schools, people kind of move away.
Jordan
That's a different type of friend group. That's just like friends that have babies, like, that's just. That's going to break up. Sorry. It's going to happen.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Jordan
Because you're going to start hanging out with your, your kids, friends, parents that.
Danny
Go to the same school.
Jordan
Yeah. And I think that those relationships are way harder unless it's A boy and a girl. I think that. That those relationships work really well together. But when you're hanging out with all of your daughter's friends, moms. Oh, my God. I've been in the rooms. Like, when. I remember when I was, like, in fourth grade, and all the moms, all they do is talk about us. All they did was talk about their daughters. And, like, well, you know, Kendall made this, and Danny's the captain of this and this. And then you have this one mom in the corner being like, you know, because her daughter's not mentioned.
Danny
The dad's groups are not like this.
Jordan
I don't know. It would be interesting with sports. I don't know. Like, I don't know how dads are with. With that. But, like, you know, if they're hanging out with a bunch of.
Danny
Yeah, I guess I would have no exposure to it. I mean, I would have. I don't know yet, but I don't think so. I don't think so. I. I can't imagine. Like, I feel like. I feel like we will know that our wives struggle with this, but I feel like we will not give in unless there's.
Jordan
I don't know. I think. I think dads and dudes, like, love the drama. Well, you come home and you're like, babe, did you know that? Because this hasn't really happened to me. But, like, there have been times that I see that all of, like, Stella's.
Danny
I think that you're saying that because your dad loved the drama.
Jordan
No, my dad did love the drama.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
But there's been times, like, that, like, Stella's like. Like, three of her, like, best friends in her class. Like, the moms will all take their daughters to go get their nails done, and they've invited me, like, multiple times. And honestly, we're not able to go. But then I'll see it, and I'll be like, oh, I wish we were there. Like, and it's already and still is, like, five. So imagine whenever they're, like, older, how much, like, if. If Stella's being excluded by these moms and these girls that she wants to be friends with, and I'm being excluded by the moms, it's gonna hurt my.
Danny
Feelings, and then y' all are gonna come to me.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
And I'd be like, oh, absolutely not Exactly.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny
Yeah.
Jordan
I'm just saying.
Danny
I mean, I get. I think it. You're right, because I think it would be harder, like, with dads of, like.
Jordan
Girl dads, because Stella's.
Danny
You're gonna be like, absolutely.
Jordan
Stella's gonna be like. Well, like Stella told me the other day, and this I truly like. I'm obsessed with the moms and her. I have literally no nothing. But Stella told me the other day that one of them, I honestly can't remember who, was but one of the moms for her. For her birthday, the mom came and picked up two of the girls from school and took them to lunch. And Stella got upset because she didn't get to go with them. And I don't even remember who it was, but I felt guilty because I was like, if I would have tried to be closer with the moms, then maybe they would have included Stella. Like, you know? And so I'm, like, feeling like, oh, it's my fault now, you know?
Danny
Oh, wow. I can't wait for.
Jordan
I know.
Danny
For kindergarten.
Jordan
Anyway, this was fun.
Danny
This is a good time. Okay, Bye.
Jordan
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De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan (Dear Media) – January 15, 2026
This episode is a candid, humorous, and sometimes vulnerable exploration of Dani’s recent string of medical mishaps during her third trimester of pregnancy. The couple unpacks the chaos of health scares, parenting while sick, and the impact on family life. They branch into discussions on social dynamics—from viral news and political scandals to “mom group” drama—mixing personal anecdotes with pop culture commentary. The episode is light, real, and relatable, revealing both the exhaustion and humor of daily life under pressure.
On pushing through illness:
Jordan: “I, I, I mentally stayed strong.” (02:25)
On the inefficiencies of the ER:
Danny: “You have to keep telling people what you’re feeling.” (08:59)
On pain and unmedicated birth:
Jordan: “I’ve had a natural birth and like I would say those contractions are like nine, 10… But I would say this is like what I went through was like, or 7 or an 8 compared to like those contractions.” (10:16)
On the new wave of AI medical tech:
Danny: “ChatGPT Health is private. It’s...HIPAA compliant and they combine all of your medical data so you can like port in your medical records.” (23:48)
On government fraud and public trust:
Danny: "It’s a total mess. ...If our tax dollars...are then being reallocated and fraudulently taken...I would be very angry if we were in that position." (34:23)
On internet news channels at the gym:
Danny: “They always have CNN and Fox News up. ...If you put those two next to each other...How crazy polarized things really are.” (47:59)
On Ashley Tisdale’s mom group drama:
Jordan: “When you write a whole negative, like, hit piece on, like, it’s just like, what do you expect?” (65:37)
The ringworm standoff:
Jordan: “If I get ringworm because you’re not taking care of yourself, I will kill you. … And I have kept track of every time he has used that cream since I’ve said that. Zero.” (54:00)
This episode encapsulates the messy reality of family life in crisis—but with humor and self-awareness. Dani and Jordan’s dynamic toggles from intimate (handling health emergencies) to comedic (ringworm, memes) to reflective (media, politics, social groups). Their take on both national news and pop-culture drama is fresh, skeptical, and personable—anchored in their own relentless, loving chaos.
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