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De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan
From Hustling to Farm Life: Let's De-Influence the Beverlins
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- [00:00]
Danny Austin
Foreign. The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hello, and welcome back to your favorite podcast, D and Influence. Y' all are not going to believe who we have on today's podcast. The funny thing is, so our podcast producer, Carissa, this is her last day because she's moving on to greener pastures. And we're going to miss you, Rip. But it's so funny. This is like a. A full circle moment, because the day that she started working here, we tried to get these guests, and we got them on your last day. So today on the podcast, we have Laura and Marky Beverlyn. They have over 1.6 million followers. She's an OG and lifestyle influencer, and they're doing some really cool other things that we're super excited to talk about. But not only that, they are two of our really good friends. We were talking about this. We've been friends for almost 10 years. I know it might even be 10 years by now, but, like, it's crazy. I think I knew Laura before I even, like, married Jordan, which is wild. But anyway, thanks for coming to the podcast.
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Jordan Phillips
Why'd you guys say no for so many years?
- [01:24]
Danny Austin
No, honestly, I think it was, like, kind of like us being, like, so back and forth and just like, it probably was me taking time off and whatever. Whatever it happened. I knew. I didn't try to rush it because I just knew I was like, one day it's gonna happen.
- [01:36]
Jordan Phillips
You gotta tell Laura about your time off.
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Marky Beverlyn
She would.
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Danny Austin
Oh, yeah.
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Laura Beverlyn
Honestly, no, I had so much respect for that, and I, Like, I. I needed to do that, too. I feel like I was forced into it, but respect it.
- [01:47]
Danny Austin
Two. Two months. I kind of feel like I kind of forced myself into it. It was like a. It wasn't like, I'm gonna take two months off because this is healthy. It was like, crash.
- [01:56]
Jordan Phillips
It's like, time to blow up my life.
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Laura Beverlyn
No, that was me. I got sick at the end of the year, and I was like, I need to take time off. Like, I knew I needed to do it, and I got the flu, and I was literally so dead sick and couldn't move. And I was like, this was like, God telling me I needed a break. And, like, just.
- [02:12]
Danny Austin
So how long were you off?
- [02:14]
Laura Beverlyn
I honestly don't remember how much I didn't post on Instagram, but I was so sick, like, all during Christmas and New Year's last year, and I was just like. I knew. I just, like, needed a break, and that was what God forced for me.
- [02:25]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
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Jordan Phillips
Ask Danny how many times she's had the flu last year.
- [02:28]
Danny Austin
Last year, last year. 10 times.
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Laura Beverlyn
10 times. I believe it. But I feel like it's like, the stress and everything, and God's like, okay, you're done. Like, time to take a break.
- [02:35]
Danny Austin
He was telling me something. Yeah, he was definitely telling me something, and I wasn't listening, but then I did, and I had to.
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Jordan Phillips
One more post.
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Danny Austin
Biggest bummer is it happened during, like, Q4, which was, like, the kind of the biggest time of the year. And literally, I just, like, November, December was just. It was.
- [02:54]
Jordan Phillips
I watched these. These tiktokers, you know, who are, like, kind of, like, up and coming, and they're, like, creating a bunch of content. And I have two different feelings about it. I'm curious what y' all think number one is. I'm like, man, they will never understand the grind of daily stories.
- [03:09]
Danny Austin
Oh, yeah. Or outfit pictures three times a day. Like, are you kidding me?
- [03:12]
Laura Beverlyn
Posting three times a day? That's what I started with. We all do. Literally, like, it was like, morning, noon, and night. Three times a day, three different outfits.
- [03:20]
Danny Austin
Y' all don't understand the trips that Laura and I have been on. Like, the amount of outfit changes, hair changes, makeup changes. The whole day was just going out and getting pictures in the exact perfect lighting and then coming home and editing.
- [03:33]
Laura Beverlyn
Editing, editing, all for hours.
- [03:36]
Danny Austin
And that. We were talking about this because the. So, okay, let's. Let's take it back. So this is, like, probably 2016, 2017 era. Laura Beverlyn was known for that. Okay, like, if you know, then you know. And if you don't know, oh, my goodness. Like, her photos, they're like, art. They were, like, art. And. But, like, nobody could figure out how she did it. Like, you know? And so I go to. I think we met at LTK conference. Yes. And I. I think that was the one maybe I snuck into. I can't remember because I don't think I was actually invited to that one.
- [04:07]
Jordan Phillips
But I do think it was the one.
- [04:09]
Laura Beverlyn
I think I just showed up.
- [04:11]
Danny Austin
I think I just kind of showed up, but I was like, I have hair extensions. I can fit in.
- [04:15]
Laura Beverlyn
No one's gonna know.
- [04:16]
Danny Austin
You know, I got a ray. Like, it'll work. So I meet Laura, and, like, she is, like. I'm, like, so nervous to meet her because I'm like, you guys don't. She was like, royalty of the LTK world. This is true.
- [04:28]
Jordan Phillips
Okay, it is true.
- [04:29]
Danny Austin
It is true. You know, but. And I don't remember how he started talking, but she agreed to teach me how to edit. And I remember this now. We were in the hallway. You showed me on Lightroom how you turn up this and turn this down. And I was just like, mind blown. And I come home and I tell her, I'm like, you're not going to believe who taught me how to edit. Laura freaking Beverly. Like, I was so excited, but it really did help my game.
- [04:52]
Laura Beverlyn
Like, my editing, it was all about the edit back then. And now looking back, I'm like, I spent so much time, too much time on all of those photos. But that was the expectation. That's what we all did. Yeah, but I mean, I feel like now it's like the natural approach. It's like just real life. You snap it, you post it, and that's it.
- [05:09]
Jordan Phillips
Who did you. Back in the day? Like, who did you learn that from? Because I feel like what I remember from that time was you were very analytic, political. Like, I feel like you really understood the algorithm and what it want, what it wanted. And we always talk about this, but do you remember all of the husbands having to take. Take photos with the Starbucks cup with.
- [05:29]
Marky Beverlyn
You guys sitting in cars drops.
- [05:31]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah.
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Danny Austin
Car picture with the pumpkin.
- [05:33]
Laura Beverlyn
I remember too. People were like, laura Beverlyn lives in her car. Because every single photo, every day was like, we went to Starbucks. And I even like some of those photos. A lot of those photos were empty Starbucks cups. I would say for sure, yeah, they were all empty. But.
- [05:46]
Jordan Phillips
So did you discover that or did you have, like, someone that you were looking at?
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Laura Beverlyn
I honestly don't remember where it came from. I don't remember. I feel like it was just like, great lighting in the car. Like, if you took a selfie, it was just like the best lighting was in the car. So that's what that. And the curb pictures with the Starbucks. And I think. I think it was like, I posted it one time and the algorithm liked it. The picture went like 10,000 or 15,000 likes, which was insane back then. And it was like, okay, I'm going to recreate it. And that was a thing back then. And even reposting the exact same photo. Like, if you took a photo and it did, like, really well, repost that exact same photo, change the caption, and it would do it again. So I think that was just like replicating that. But again, just diving into your analytics.
- [06:29]
Jordan Phillips
I remember the first time we all hung out, I was like, oh, they are kind of working so much smarter, not harder than everyone else. Because you, You. That's really all you did. Like, you lived in your car and Just took a picture every morning.
- [06:42]
Danny Austin
So if it was summer, we'd have sunflowers. If it was fall, you'd have pumpkins. Like, and we're all out here, like, traveling to London, trying to get cool pictures. And Laura's like, I'm in my car and on the curb doing. Doing the same thing, killing it.
- [06:53]
Laura Beverlyn
I think it just felt real life, even though it was obviously so staged with all the props and everything, but it was just like, it looked so in the moment, but inspirational. Yeah, did what worked, but I honestly don't know where that originated from. Like, where the inspo came from.
- [07:07]
Danny Austin
Can we go back to, like, the. The early days? Because so on the podcast, we kind of like to de. Influence ourselves, de Influence our, you know, our past. Where did you. Like, how did you even get into creating content at all?
- [07:20]
Laura Beverlyn
It just kind of happened. So just backstory. I worked in a corporate accounting office. I was an accounts receivable clerk for one of the largest egg distributing companies in the United States. So I was, like, counting eggs, essentially, but I was doing invoicing and sending them to Walmart and Target and everything. So I was like the billing person for that. The worst job for my personality because I am a creative type. And I sat in an office at a desk with no windows. It was like caddy older women, but I was like, I am an office girly. Like, I put on cute outfits. I wore high heels to work every day. I got excited to get dressed for work, and I started just taking pictures of what I wore to work. I would walk into the office bathroom, take, like, that downward selfie of my outfit, and that's what my Instagram started. If you scroll back, like, 5,000 photos, like, that's what you'll see. It was that and, like, nail pictures in my car, like, of my hand. Like, lots of hand pictures, selfies, and those bathroom outfit pictures. And it was just a creative outlet. It was something where I was kind of bored out of my mind at my job, and I needed something fun and creative. So I started doing that, discovered Pinterest, discovered, like, the OG blogger girls like Rich Parcel, Amber Filler up, like, and they weren't on Instagram. This was blogs. This was blogs. And they were posting their blog posts through Pinterest and that whole world. And I was like, wait, this is amazing. Like, this is so cool. So I just kind of, like, fell down that rabbit hole, and I was like, wait, I can do this. So I just started sharing outfits. And then it kind of evolved, I think Express reposted one of my outfits. So I wasn't on ltk. This was like before LTK was really a thing because it was blogs. So I had discovered ltk applied for it, got denied because I didn't have a blog. I was like, only on Instagram at this point. And so I was like tagging brands in my outfit. So it was like if I wore Express jeans, I put like Express, like on my jeans, like in the photo so people could tap it and see it. I see people. There was no one looking at my.
- [09:15]
Danny Austin
Stuff at this point.
- [09:17]
Jordan Phillips
Marky was, yeah, Mark.
- [09:19]
Laura Beverlyn
He was my biggest fan, biggest supporter from day one. But Express saw my post and they reposted my photo, like in front of like our brown garage doors. Like, I vividly remember this photo and I think I gained like 6,000 followers or something from that. And it was like a huge bump and I was like, wait, we have something here. So then I like actually started taking.
- [09:39]
Danny Austin
She's like, we're moving to la.
- [09:43]
Laura Beverlyn
That was really like the thing where I'm like, okay, we have something here. And it was like super exciting. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna take this seriously. Started posting better pictures. We got like a point and shoot Canon camera. We upgraded from our iPhone at the time. And then it just kind of grew from there. And we just literally learned as we went. We had no idea how to take photos. I like, was literally googling how to get the blurry background in a photo.
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Marky Beverlyn
Because I was like, is there an app?
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Laura Beverlyn
I was like, is this an app?
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Danny Austin
Is it editing ISO do this?
- [10:12]
Laura Beverlyn
I'm like, even know what any of that was? I was blurring it out, like in an app, like smoothing out the background. Marky Googles it. He's like, babe, this is a lens. Like, it's photography.
- [10:23]
Danny Austin
Like, oh.
- [10:25]
Laura Beverlyn
So we're like, okay, bought a new camera. But all of it was just completely self taught. No, there was no guide to being a blogger or an influencer at that time. So we just figured everything out ourselves. I learned how to code a website. I built my own website by myself, coded everything. And yeah, it really so nostalgic, like.
- [10:45]
Jordan Phillips
Hearing all this because I was like, all of us as couple friends were in the same boat. All the ins, like Instagram husbands would be like, guys, our life is so weird. Like, all we do is take pictures of our wives all day. And we're like, wait, but I think this is turning into something at the same time.
- [11:00]
Danny Austin
Well, so I want to know Marky, like, so y' all were married at that point you, like, where were you all at in life? And Marky, what did you think about all this? Were you working too and being like, oh, I just want to support her hobby? Like, yeah, what were you thinking?
- [11:15]
Marky Beverlyn
I think I saw, I saw the potential from the beginning because like I saw her growing and then I saw like, you know, she was getting small deals with brands where they'd be giving her free stuff. So I really knew there was like a potential there. So as it started to grow, like, I was really supportive of it. I think I was one of the probably original, like, yeah, influencer husbands that like that, that just like dove into it and was like, like behind. And a lot of, a lot of the husbands were like, I don't want to take your picture. I don't know. This is dumb. Like, this is silly. Like, why are we, why are we late for dinner night? Like, and I was just kind of like, I'm just in on it. And I remember that.
- [11:47]
Jordan Phillips
Yeah, there was like the class of Instagram husbands that were like, all in and then there was the class that was like, no, you know, like, I'm just, I'm just here on the trip because I was invited.
- [11:56]
Danny Austin
I remember Marky, like we were on a trip to. I think we were in Nashville or some, or Indianapolis, I can't remember. But Emily Heron was shooting her Steve Madden club and her shoes got messed up or something. Do you remember this? Yes. And we're like all panicking because we're like, oh my gosh, she's launching these shoes tomorrow. And then, and Marky gets on the phone, he's like, yeah, like, I'll ship them overnight. Like, he was like, so just like he was there, handled it. He was like Champagne Chanel's Instagram husband at the time. She wasn't married yet. And he was like, hey, I got you. Like, he was like always our, our go to guy for taking photos, for helping and not that Jordan wasn't great at. You were. Honestly, we're not very good at.
- [12:34]
Jordan Phillips
No, we all had, we all had.
- [12:36]
Danny Austin
Our different talents, but Marky was like really like the photographer of the CRE through and, and Jordan tried and he tries still. But it is a blessing now that we've shifted more to like the real life and it doesn't have to all look so pretty because then, now I feel like we thrive with that with like the messy, you know.
- [12:53]
Jordan Phillips
Yeah, no, it's so funny like that, that point you're touching on is like Marky being really good at like photography and like let's say me being really good at stories or something. It was funny because when the husbands would get together, you guys would all compare us to each other. So like, like Marky does something really great and like mark photos. And then it would be like why can't you take photos? And then it's like, like whenever I would do like stories or something, like people would be like, why can't you film me like Jordan Phillips did?
- [13:22]
Laura Beverlyn
And it's like I've literally said that to Marky so many times. Pull your phone out, film me.
- [13:28]
Marky Beverlyn
100. Why are you not following me around all day long with your phone?
- [13:31]
Jordan Phillips
100% my bad. And there are cost to that, let me tell you. And it's, it's just so funny because there, there it was such a small tight knit group that was doing it in this kind of like mommy blogger sphere. And go.
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Danny Austin
We hustled so hard.
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Laura Beverlyn
So hard. It was so much.
- [13:49]
Jordan Phillips
We almost killed ourselves.
- [13:51]
Danny Austin
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- [21:22]
Laura Beverlyn
Through R. But yeah, it's so sweet.
- [21:23]
Danny Austin
Can you tell everyone?
- [21:24]
Laura Beverlyn
Okay, we've been married 16 years now.
- [21:28]
Danny Austin
Which aren't y' all 16 years old? Like, I don't understand.
- [21:30]
Laura Beverlyn
It also doesn't feel that long, which is crazy. Like, I remember our wedding day like it was yesterday. Like it feels like it's gone by so fast. But then we've also. It also feels like we've lived three separate lives because so much has changed and we've Done so much together, but we did. We met through church Bible study, and we lived in two separate towns, went to two separate churches. And it's actually funny how. How it all happened. So our youth pastor, her daughter was becoming a youth pastor as well, and she got a job at Markey's church. So her mom was at my church.
- [22:06]
Danny Austin
Her.
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Laura Beverlyn
Rachel was her name was at Markey's church. And his mom was like, hey, Marky, there's this really cute youth pastor here. And she is.
- [22:15]
Marky Beverlyn
She's trying to bring me back to church. Yeah, I was away at college, so she's like, oh, you should come back and, you know, be at church more. And there's this really cute girl there, she's the youth pastor, and you should, you know, try and pursue her kind of thing. And I was like, I guess.
- [22:28]
Laura Beverlyn
So Marky started going back to church and going to all of, like, the youth group things and everything. So we went to combined Bible studies because we were going to take a summer trip together. And we ended up meeting just. Just through friends and hanging out. We went to, like, movies and different stuff together. And I was like, this guy is for me. Like, I had a boyfriend at the time. And there's like, there's something so special about Marky. And I just felt drawn to him. And I messaged him on MySpace and told him that he gave good hugs.
- [23:00]
Danny Austin
Forward.
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Laura Beverlyn
I technically made the first move. And then we started dating after that.
- [23:06]
Marky Beverlyn
And yeah, I proposed six months later. Yeah, Got engaged this morning.
- [23:12]
Danny Austin
Wow, that is so crazy. Okay, so. And so then Laura starts blogging, doing her thing. At what point did you guys make the move to start working together, like, full time?
- [23:23]
Laura Beverlyn
It was always kind of our dream and our goal to work together. So Marky worked in commercial finance, and he was analyzing businesses all day long. So he'd come home and kind of tell me, like, oh, I got to look at this really cool company. And one of them was, like, a tanning company. He'd always tell me the ones that were, like, kind of fun and, like, interesting for me. We just always had this dream of, like, one day we could work together and, like, start our own company. And we had no idea how that was going to happen. Like, we didn't come. My parent, my dad worked for the same company for 30 years. He didn't start his own company. We had no real ideas or experience in any of that stuff. It was just always this dream we had. And then we started renovating houses was, like, our first thing that we started doing together. We both like, worked our nine to five jobs and then would renovate our house in our spare time, just because that's what we had to do to be able to afford to update things.
- [24:13]
Danny Austin
Renovation. Can't wait to get into that.
- [24:16]
Laura Beverlyn
But this. It started from the very beginning. We bought our first house for, like, $70,000, and it was very dated. It needed a ton of work, and we would just do it ourselves. Like, we got home from work, and we just, like, would rip up the carpet, put down new flooring, change tile.
- [24:30]
Danny Austin
But how did y' all know how to do that? Are you just really handy or. No?
- [24:34]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah, we're just. Well, she grew up doing a little bit with her dad, like, helping. Helping him out. He had a lot of. He'd buy rental properties and fix them up. But, like me, I was just always really handy. Love working with my hands. So, yeah, I'd look at. Look at a YouTube video and figure it out, learn how to do Jordan.
- [24:47]
Jordan Phillips
Why can't you be more handy like Mark?
- [24:50]
Marky Beverlyn
Have you heard that one before?
- [24:51]
Jordan Phillips
I'm sorry, 100.
- [24:52]
Danny Austin
No, I never.
- [24:53]
Jordan Phillips
I'm kidding.
- [24:54]
Danny Austin
I never said that. Look at.
- [24:55]
Jordan Phillips
Look at him. He's ripping up the carpet. I'm sorry, Danny. I don't know how.
- [24:59]
Danny Austin
Well, it is, like, very rare to have. Sometimes I feel like content creators are only good at one thing, which is creating content. So it's rare when they actually have, like, a talent outside of creating content, like building houses or, you know, being handy. So, yeah, so that makes it, like, more interesting to follow.
- [25:18]
Laura Beverlyn
The renovation started from, like, day one of our marriage, basically, when we bought our first house. And then we kind of use that as a stepping stone.
- [25:25]
Marky Beverlyn
No, actually, let's go back to the mobile home that we lived in.
- [25:28]
Laura Beverlyn
Yes.
- [25:28]
Danny Austin
Yeah. So our.
- [25:29]
Marky Beverlyn
We lived in a single, wide mobile home that I was renting for 350 bucks a month.
- [25:33]
Danny Austin
Yes. What a deal.
- [25:34]
Laura Beverlyn
Okay, so listen, there was a. There was a band aid on the window when we moved into this place. Just to paint the picture, there was a band aid on the window, and we were, like, cleaning everything, getting it ready to move in. I pulled off the Band Aid, and it was a bullet hole in the window. So that was. That was where we started. And we rented it for 350amonth, and we got married when we lived there. I think we lived there for, like, another six months or so. And then we bought our first house.
- [25:58]
Danny Austin
Wow.
- [25:59]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [25:59]
Danny Austin
So that had to be crazy when you start becoming, like, successful on Instagram and you're like, what is happening in my world.
- [26:05]
Laura Beverlyn
It's almost like you don't believe that it's real life.
- [26:08]
Danny Austin
You kind of feel like you kind of have to, like, suck it dry, right? Because you're like, is this gonna go away?
- [26:12]
Laura Beverlyn
Is it gonna last?
- [26:13]
Danny Austin
You feel that way?
- [26:14]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, for sure. Yeah.
- [26:15]
Jordan Phillips
We all did. Yeah. We were like this. We. We got solid two years out of the stage.
- [26:19]
Laura Beverlyn
It feels unbelievable that it is the real reality you live in, knowing where we came from and, like, what we started with.
- [26:26]
Danny Austin
Do you still feel that way sometimes?
- [26:28]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. It's like. It's almost like imposter syndrome or something. It's like you're living a life that it just doesn't feel like reality.
- [26:38]
Jordan Phillips
I want to ask you guys this. So, like, how has your relationship with the Internet changed over the past, say, like, two or three years? Because I feel like your story has kind of mirrored ours, where we both went through that crazy grind period, and then you guys moved on to a farm, which I was always supportive of. And I feel like the pace that you run now is you're still consistent, you still post, you're still creating content, but I think that it feels like where we're at, where it's not. It's not everything anymore. So how has the relationship with the Internet shifted?
- [27:13]
Laura Beverlyn
It's definitely changed a lot, and I feel like the last year was a big shift for me, and it's just finding peace in what I'm doing and that balance of the grind and the work life balance. So I feel like I've kind of done taken a step back. I'm still on Instagram, I'm still on Stories every day. But I. I know my audience has felt it and noticed it because they're like, I feel like you're not on here every day. You're not sharing as much. And, like, I feel like I needed that mentally and just to have that peace and just enjoy the life that we have now. We've worked so hard to get here, where it almost felt like we weren't enjoying everything. It's like you kind of, like, have blinders on. Like, anyone from the outside, they, like, look at our life and they're like, wow, it's so amazing. But it doesn't always feel. Feel the way that it looks. So I'm like, I want my life to feel as good as it looks. And that means, like, taking a step back and enjoying real life, enjoying our farm, and kind of like, putting my phone down more.
- [28:11]
Jordan Phillips
Can I ask you this? I feel that the Internet sort of towards the end of our grind started picking up. They could almost, like, see it in our eyes that we were a little crazy, that we were, like, trying to be happy and. But, like, deep down, we were all, like, drained and burned out. So do you think that the decision to shift into more of a, like, real. Hey, I'm really happy, and I'm showing that I'm happy, and that authenticity has actually been something that the Internet culture has caught up to as well. Like, it feels like the people who are still grinding and trying so hard, The Internet sees that now, right? In a way that they didn't before.
- [28:50]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. I think they appreciate the realness, and they can tell, like. And if people are like, you look happier, and I'm, like, I feel happier. So I do feel like it comes across and people can see that and feel that, and I do feel like it's, like. I don't say it's, like, become, like, an expectation, but, like, it is more noticeable when you see someone that's not in that same space.
- [29:10]
Jordan Phillips
So my. My next question, because I. I've. I've walked through this with Danny, and y' all are both threes. Yes.
- [29:15]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
- [29:16]
Laura Beverlyn
Three enneagrams.
- [29:17]
Jordan Phillips
Okay. So y' all are both achievers, and you're cut from the same clothes. Has. Has it been hard for you to accept that you don't have to grind all day every day and still be complete?
- [29:30]
Laura Beverlyn
Yes. It's so hard. I feel like being a three is a blessing and a curse, because that's what got us here. It is that driving factor. And Marky and I are very opposite. Marky is a nine.
- [29:40]
Marky Beverlyn
I'm a nine. I've heard. I was going to say two.
- [29:43]
Laura Beverlyn
He's not into the Enneagram, but I. I have told him and explained to him how that works, but he truly balances me out. And I think it's, like, such a good thing to have him as, like, very chill, very content, peacemaker. Yeah. I definitely need.
- [29:59]
Marky Beverlyn
So is it.
- [30:00]
Jordan Phillips
Is it still a daily struggle?
- [30:02]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. Yeah.
- [30:03]
Danny Austin
To let go and to say, okay, I don't have to show up today. I just need. I can take care of myself, and that's gonna be okay.
- [30:09]
Laura Beverlyn
It is hard for me to shut off and, like, rest, truly. But I know that it's a good thing. I have to consciously make an effort to do that every day. So, yeah, it's kind of hard to.
- [30:20]
Danny Austin
Shut it off, but it's cool because I know exactly how you feel. But it's like. It's almost like we're Being better role models online by like, not showing up because it's like taking care of yourself and prioritizing yourself and showing like, I have this whole life outside of the Internet and outside of like, what I'm posting and sharing is healthy. And people can see, like, they don't know everything I did today when like, oh my gosh, in the past it was like, I'm going to lunch. Here's my. Here's what I ate, here's what I did. Here's the shoes I'm wearing, here's the socks. I'm wearing these underwear right now. Like you have.
- [30:51]
Jordan Phillips
They won't know I'm at lunch.
- [30:52]
Danny Austin
They didn't know that I ate. People. I remember people used to comment and be like, girl, like, man, you only eat this or you never eat. I'm like, the fact that y' all feel like, you know, what I eat throughout the day is a problem. And that was my lack of boundaries that I had with my audience. And. But still then I feel like the times that we should show up, it's so much more real and healthy and not forced. Because there were so many times towards the end where like, I felt like, oh my gosh, I have so much to be thankful for and so much to appreciate, but I hate that I have to post right now. And that's so sad because we have such, like. It's such a blessing to be in the space that we're in.
- [31:26]
Jordan Phillips
You know, one time Danny got the flu for probably like the eighth time and she had to go. She had to go to qvc and. No, this is the best story. This is like. This is like OG Danny Austin.
- [31:40]
Danny Austin
Wait, this was like literally like six months ago.
- [31:43]
Jordan Phillips
Oh, was it?
- [31:44]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
- [31:45]
Jordan Phillips
Oh, my bad. She's reformed now.
- [31:48]
Marky Beverlyn
So long ago.
- [31:48]
Jordan Phillips
She literally.
- [31:49]
Danny Austin
Wait, what was I sick with?
- [31:51]
Jordan Phillips
You were sick with.
- [31:53]
Danny Austin
I think I was the flu. No, because I had to go to the hospital. Huh? Oh, yes, yes.
- [31:58]
Jordan Phillips
Gallstones. That's right. Right, she had gallstones. Well, technically it was summit. Our baby's hair that was creating gerd.
- [32:05]
Danny Austin
No. Oh, my God, that's such a. That's like a old wives tale.
- [32:08]
Jordan Phillips
But anyway, so she, she was like in the ER at 4 in the morning.
- [32:12]
Danny Austin
They put me on fentanyl.
- [32:13]
Jordan Phillips
Yeah. So they're like, okay, like drip her with fentanyl. And then she's like feeling good and she's like, hey, listen, can you, can you get me out of here by 6am I gotta catch a flight.
- [32:23]
Danny Austin
No, I. I had supposed to be on NBC. I told Jordan to get me a private plane. I said, get me a plane. We're going to qvc.
- [32:30]
Laura Beverlyn
I feel like I remember seeing this on Stories.
- [32:32]
Danny Austin
I remember this right before I had my. My two month break breakdown.
- [32:36]
Jordan Phillips
And so. But it's so funny because that story is like so indicative of how both of you were during that grind season.
- [32:44]
Danny Austin
Like, give me the morphine and get me to qvc.
- [32:47]
Jordan Phillips
Yeah, it's like, it was like, give me a shot. I'll do another outfit. Pick like Marky.
- [32:53]
Danny Austin
That's so true.
- [32:53]
Jordan Phillips
But you guys, like, I. I watch Yalls content and it, it makes me so happy these days. You guys have a farm. I'm still trying to get Danny there. We're going to Nashville. We're gonna check some stuff out. But it just feels like your life is decompressed and deconstructed in a way that, like, God has almost, like, rebuilt it into something, like, better and more beautiful. And maybe I'm just romanticizing because, like, I know you guys and I know what we've gone through, but it feels like that, at least from watching.
- [33:20]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, definitely. It feels like where we're meant to be in the life we're meant to live. Like, everything about the shift that led us to our property and everything about it, even though it's been a little crazy and a long journey. Yeah, a long journey. It really does feel like what's meant for us. And I feel like that's where I've, like, had to find that peace with that work life balance to fully enjoy what God has given us and what he's provided for us.
- [33:47]
Danny Austin
So I do want to talk more about the farm, the zoo.
- [33:52]
Jordan Phillips
Will you tell them my idea for you guys?
- [33:54]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, Jordan wanted it to be a. A zoo. It was the Beverlyn Zoo.
- [33:58]
Marky Beverlyn
I mean, we were looking at giraffes. We were looking at.
- [34:00]
Jordan Phillips
Yeah, zebras. Have you guys ever seen the movie We Bought a Zoo?
- [34:03]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
- [34:04]
Jordan Phillips
I was like, guys, there is a huge opportunity on the Internet for the Beverlyns to open up a zoo, open the gates to allow their followers to come. Why'd you guys not do it? Liability.
- [34:15]
Danny Austin
It's a huge liability also having people, like, at your house.
- [34:19]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, we need that piece.
- [34:20]
Danny Austin
We need that.
- [34:21]
Laura Beverlyn
I need separation.
- [34:23]
Danny Austin
I know, but don't you kind of.
- [34:24]
Marky Beverlyn
Our fences aren't tall enough for giraffes either.
- [34:27]
Jordan Phillips
Also, the animal activists would have been all over you.
- [34:30]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, yeah.
- [34:31]
Jordan Phillips
That would have been tough.
- [34:32]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [34:33]
Danny Austin
But maybe you rescue the animals.
- [34:35]
Jordan Phillips
Yeah. Rescue a zebra.
- [34:37]
Laura Beverlyn
Rescue a pet giraffe.
- [34:39]
Jordan Phillips
They're not villains. They're heroes.
- [34:40]
Danny Austin
Heroes, yeah. So tell me about living on a farm. What's that like?
- [34:45]
Laura Beverlyn
It's a lot of fun. It's honestly a dream. It's so peaceful. It's. I feel like people want me to share so much of the farm and they want to see more of it, but that's when I'm more at peace, is when I'm out with the animals and stuff. So I'm not on my phone. I'm not filming every second of it. And we do. Marky and I are the ones to go out there and feed the animals every day. It really is just part of, like, our daily routine and something we. They fully enjoy. Like, they are our pets, they're our babies, and it really is like a petting zoo. Walking out there, they love affection. They want you to, like, hug them and brush them and hang out with them. So it's been a lot of fun. And everyone thinks it's so much work and so hard having. I mean, our property in general. We. We live on 60 acres, so we. It's a lot to maintain in that sense. But the animals themselves are so easy. They eat grass and they. They drink water. So it's like, that's the incentive, right?
- [35:37]
Danny Austin
Like, you can't. When you travel, you have to have somebody come in.
- [35:39]
Laura Beverlyn
We do have. We have friends that stay at our house because we have the dogs in the house and everything also. And they. We have, like, a list of people that want to come and take care of the animals and hang out on the farm. So it's really cool, but it really is. It's just like our daily routine to go out there and, like, hang out the animals. I just sit in the field and brush them, and it's like how I decompress out there.
- [35:57]
Danny Austin
Wait, can I ask, like, what is it like to take care of 60 acres? Like, do you just have 60 acres and then you just, like, don't go out to the 60 acres, or do you have to drive around and, like, check on your 60 acres?
- [36:09]
Jordan Phillips
Guys, be chill about it.
- [36:10]
Danny Austin
No, I scare her away.
- [36:12]
Jordan Phillips
We're so close to moving on to.
- [36:13]
Marky Beverlyn
A easy to maintain. There's literally nothing to do.
- [36:16]
Laura Beverlyn
There's nothing to think about, nothing to worry about.
- [36:19]
Marky Beverlyn
We don't have to mow, like, eight hours a day.
- [36:21]
Danny Austin
I. I genuinely. Please tell me, because first of all, we'll never buy 60 acres. That's too bad. Like, like, maybe two.
- [36:27]
Jordan Phillips
We're looking anyway next week, so maybe.
- [36:29]
Laura Beverlyn
Maybe we're 40. Maybe 40.
- [36:31]
Danny Austin
No, I want an. Is Too much for me. I live on 0.25 right now and I can't take care of my bedroom. Like, it's a mess. So, I mean, really, I want to know. Like, that's a lot of work, right? Like what, what kind of things do you do? Do you ever have hogs?
- [36:45]
Marky Beverlyn
We do not have hogs currently. The property used to have hogs way before.
- [36:48]
Danny Austin
Do you have to go and get rid of them?
- [36:50]
Laura Beverlyn
And I would probably try to keep them as pets. I would just gather up all the babies.
- [36:53]
Danny Austin
Oh, they're so. They're so nasty though.
- [36:55]
Laura Beverlyn
No, I mean, the babies are cute.
- [36:58]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah. No, we don't have any hogs. So 60 acres. It depends on, you know, if it's. If it's all wooded, it's really easy to maintain. You don't have to do much. But we have a lot of pasture. So we have, you know, horse pasture, which is like 10 acres. And then we have a smaller pasture for the smaller animals. But I think it's like about three or four acres. So those kind of self maintained, they eat the grass and everything. We mow it every couple weeks just because it grows in the summer faster than they can eat. And then we do have a lot of common grounds that just has to be mowed in general. So there's like, there's quite a bit of mowing that has to be done.
- [37:27]
Danny Austin
Do you mow it all?
- [37:29]
Marky Beverlyn
Actually, my dad knows it.
- [37:30]
Danny Austin
I was gonna say that's why you're so tan. Look at. I mean, he's so tan. He's out there probably mowing with his shirt off.
- [37:34]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. Marky goes outside and gets the best tan ever.
- [37:37]
Marky Beverlyn
No, it's. It's been pretty cool. But just a little aside, we. We hired my dad after my mom passed back in 2019. Obviously you never know how long you're gonna have with any of your parents. And that was a real. I mean, we spent a lot of time with my family, but it was a real awakening to realize how, you know, early you can lose somebody. So we hired my dad. It's really cool he's there. He helps maintain the property, runs the mower, blows the driveway, driveway off.
- [38:00]
Laura Beverlyn
We go to lunch with him every day.
- [38:02]
Danny Austin
Oh, my gosh. Does he live nearby?
- [38:04]
Marky Beverlyn
He does now, actually. He lived about 45 minutes away and he was driving every day. But yeah, he moved. He moved close by.
- [38:09]
Jordan Phillips
That's amazing.
- [38:10]
Laura Beverlyn
He's 10 minutes from us now. Yeah, we do. Yeah.
- [38:15]
Danny Austin
Do you ride them?
- [38:15]
Laura Beverlyn
Okay. So funny story. When we bought our house, it came with Horses. So it was. Our farm was originally an Arabian horse horse farm. They would, like, breed and show Arabian horses. When we bought it, they're like, hey, guys, like, there's a. There's two horses that come with the house if you want them. If you don't, we can try to re home them. But they've always lived on this property. And we are the fourth owners of the house. And anybody that's bought it keeps the horses. We're like, of course we're gonna keep them. We have Gloria and cabbie. They're the two original ones. And Gloria is like 30.
- [38:47]
Marky Beverlyn
She's a national champion mayor. Arabian mayor.
- [38:50]
Laura Beverlyn
Wow.
- [38:50]
Danny Austin
Yes.
- [38:50]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah. I don't know what that means.
- [38:51]
Danny Austin
How long do they live horses?
- [38:53]
Laura Beverlyn
They can live a long time. I mean, 30 is pretty old for a horse, but if they're well taken care of, they can live really long lives. But she's an old lady, so they're just lawn ornaments. They just eat the grass and live their happy little lives out there. But we inherited horses, and then we did buy two younger horses, Earl Gray and Chai. And they were riding horses is for us.
- [39:14]
Danny Austin
So you ride them?
- [39:15]
Laura Beverlyn
Yes, we were taking riding lessons at our house and learning how to ride.
- [39:18]
Danny Austin
Yeah. So, like, you can like, right. Like you have a horse.
- [39:23]
Laura Beverlyn
We have saddles on our porch on the side of our.
- [39:25]
Danny Austin
Do you.
- [39:26]
Laura Beverlyn
You can bare back. I mean, our friend did. He just, like, went out. I've never ridden bareback before, actually. No, I have. I actually rode in a parade with when I was a kid.
- [39:35]
Marky Beverlyn
But it's nice to have a little more controls, though.
- [39:37]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, I like a saddle.
- [39:38]
Danny Austin
Is it a lot of work to like, like, saddle them up and take them for a ride?
- [39:41]
Laura Beverlyn
You would be surprised at how heavy. So we have western saddles and they. I think we weighed them. They're 42 pounds.
- [39:48]
Marky Beverlyn
They're also pretty nice decorative ones, too.
- [39:49]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, we have really. They're like. That was our Christmas present too.
- [39:52]
Danny Austin
Each other.
- [39:53]
Laura Beverlyn
We got saddles. But for me to lift a saddle onto a horse, like, my horse's back is like, as tall as my head. So for me to throw 42 pounds, like, up over. I did get a little stepping block so I could do that and step up onto it to jump onto my horse.
- [40:07]
Danny Austin
So, like, how often. Since it's a lot of. I'm just. I'm honestly trying to picture it. If I ever had horses, you know, how often would I actually ride these horses? Because if it's a lot of work to saddle them up, get it all Ready? It's like, it's like a whole gig.
- [40:21]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. It is a process and it's not something I. We want to do it more than we do. It's something that I don't think we realize the amount of time it would take to do all of that. I want to make it an every Sunday thing where I would just go once a week, go out and ride just because it does take a lot of time and we're pretty busy right now. We've got a lot, a lot of things going on.
- [40:42]
Jordan Phillips
What does Yalls day to day look like? So do you try and keep your mornings really slow and then you start working at like 11 when you have that much space and you're kind of removed? It's very similar. Like we go to our lake house every weekend and it's just a different pace. Right. And so what does your day to day look like?
- [40:58]
Danny Austin
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- [44:03]
Laura Beverlyn
Like every day is different and I am very intentional about my mornings. I like a very slow start to my morning. I'll have my like water with lemon. I do my skincare routine coffee and then like my bible study. I do the Bible app and just like listen to that and that's how I like to start my day. I feel like it just puts me in the right mindset. Slow morning and then we usually jump right into like a busy day of meetings. Like this morning we had meetings like our Friday morning we had 9:00am meeting, 10:00am meeting. So it's. You just, like, hit the ground running from there. But slow mornings are, like, necessary for me to be able to, like, function throughout the day.
- [44:39]
Danny Austin
So you guys recently launched Beverlyn Coffee.
- [44:42]
Laura Beverlyn
Yes. It's been almost a year.
- [44:44]
Jordan Phillips
This is. I'm not drinking it right now. I'm drinking this trash.
- [44:49]
Danny Austin
Yeah. Can you tell us more about that?
- [44:51]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. So Beverlyn Hills is our coffee company, and it's been a lot of fun. So this was kind of a dream project. We. We always thought we would start a coffee shop. It was kind of just like a dream thing, almost like like a retirement kind of plan. Just like, later on in life. We just love the idea of having a coffee shop and. And that just being, like, a little business that we started. And we kind of just were like, what are we waiting for? Like, why not do this now? And backstory. Marky was never a coffee drinker. I feel like growing up in my. My parents, too. You drank, like, Folgers and stuff, and it always just kind of tasted like burnt, bitter coffee.
- [45:29]
Danny Austin
Stopped drinking folders.
- [45:30]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry.
- [45:31]
Danny Austin
We were like, no, but we were like. And then we tried a better coffee, and we're like, like, why are we drinking this crap? Oh, my gosh.
- [45:36]
Jordan Phillips
Like, look at the size of this container it comes in.
- [45:38]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
- [45:39]
Laura Beverlyn
There is a big difference between the quality of coffee and stuff. And when you don't know when you just think coffee tastes, like, burnt and bitter, like, you think that's what all coffee tastes like. It can be so bad. So that was Marky's experience with coffee, and he's like, I don't like coffee. And I'm like, you can't say you don't like coffee because it's not all the same. So I kind of made it my mission because I love coffee. Ever since I was, like, a kid, I drank coffee, like, after church. Do like coffee and donuts. So I drank it since, like, second grade, just probably. I don't know if coffee can stunt your growth. I don't know if that's, like, just, like, a myth, but if that's what.
- [46:12]
Marky Beverlyn
Happened, what's my excuse then?
- [46:14]
Danny Austin
I know we were all doing Coca Cola business.
- [46:18]
Laura Beverlyn
Excuse?
- [46:19]
Danny Austin
My excuse. Oh, that's funny.
- [46:22]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. So I've just always loved coffee, and I kind of made it my personal mission to make Marky like coffee. So anytime we went somewhere, we'd, like, order lattes, and we just kind of, like. It was like, a challenge. We're like, okay, well, we Thought about starting a coffee shop. Like, why don't we just like, make our own coffee? So we started doing research and figuring it out and started doing coffee tastings and really learning what we liked in the coffee world. Did find coffee that Marky approved of and that he liked. We work with a local roaster, so this isn't like a white label thing where our name is just slapped on this. We are part of the entire process. Like, like picking out the beans, putting together the blends, the roasting process, all of that. We have our hands in and we're really proud of what we've created because it truly is delicious coffee, especially our decaf. That's. I am a big decaf drinker and actually fun fact. I start my day, my first cup of coffee is decaf.
- [47:15]
Danny Austin
Really?
- [47:16]
Laura Beverlyn
Yes.
- [47:16]
Danny Austin
It still has a little bit of caffeine. There's a.
- [47:18]
Laura Beverlyn
There's a little bit of caffeine, but for me, it's like that slow morning. I don't want like a jolt of caffeine. I like to have you get like.
- [47:25]
Marky Beverlyn
Jittery and anxious if you have caffeine too early sometimes.
- [47:27]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
- [47:27]
Laura Beverlyn
It's like, same for me.
- [47:28]
Danny Austin
It's.
- [47:28]
Laura Beverlyn
Coffee is also the experience. I should try our decaf, the meadow blend. It's so good. But for me, it's like coffee isn't just about like a caffeine boost. It's like a morning ritual type of thing where it's like that cozy cup. It's like happiness. It's like warm, fuzzy feeling. So I drink decaf first to start my day. And a lot of people don't know this, but the decaffeination process is a chemical process to remove the caffeine from the beans. And so a lot of them are bad. And if you research it, it's kind of crazy. And I think that also affects the flavor and the bitterness and everything you taste in coffee. So people are like, decaf tastes like dirt.
- [48:08]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
- [48:09]
Laura Beverlyn
But it doesn't have to. So we use a mountain water process in ours, which is a 100 chemical free process that just uses water to wash the beans and remove the caffeine from it. So you still get the flavor and like the taste of a real cup of coffee without the caffeine.
- [48:24]
Danny Austin
That's so interesting. I had no idea.
- [48:26]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. A lot of people don't know that, but it truly makes it the most delicious cup of coffee.
- [48:30]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah. We had a lot of people say that they like our caf. Our decaf the best.
- [48:33]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
- [48:34]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [48:34]
Marky Beverlyn
Which is surprising because it's Nice.
- [48:36]
Danny Austin
Because then you can have multiple cups.
- [48:37]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. And have it at night when you just want, like that, like, yummy flavor and like, experience without the caffeine.
- [48:42]
Danny Austin
Because there are so many times I'm like, I want a cup of coffee, but I don't want to be up all night or I don't want to like, like, have the jitters. Okay, I'm gonna try that. Did you send us some of the details?
- [48:51]
Jordan Phillips
Yeah, we have.
- [48:51]
Laura Beverlyn
I think so.
- [48:51]
Danny Austin
Yeah, we have it all.
- [48:52]
Marky Beverlyn
Good.
- [48:52]
Jordan Phillips
It's all at the lake.
- [48:54]
Laura Beverlyn
Let me know what you think.
- [48:54]
Danny Austin
Yeah, I'm gonna compare to your Folgers. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I was like, oh. I mean, it was cheap, but like, wow, it tastes so different.
- [49:03]
Marky Beverlyn
What is funny? Because, like, we'll. We'll be traveling. And she's like, all right, let's go get a latte somewhere and like, I'll order a latte. And it's like 100 certainty. I'm gonna throw it away.
- [49:10]
Laura Beverlyn
He takes one sip. I'm like, this is terrible. And chucks it.
- [49:13]
Danny Austin
No flavor, no flavors.
- [49:14]
Marky Beverlyn
I'm such a snob now. I don't know. It's. Yeah, it's always bitter. It's always like, just not that good.
- [49:19]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, he's like nothing.
- [49:20]
Marky Beverlyn
We make him. We make him right in the office. And I'm just like, we got. We have an espresso maker there and they're just so good. And so I just won't subject myself to anything else.
- [49:27]
Danny Austin
Where can people get it on your website?
- [49:29]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, we just sell it on beverlyn hills.com and then we do have our little coffee trucks. We do local pop ups and stuff and sell it in person, which is a lot of fun.
- [49:37]
Jordan Phillips
Freaking cool.
- [49:38]
Danny Austin
That is so good. You're like kind of like hipster now. I know, because, like, I don't know, I mean, if you all all followed Laura for a while, like her brand was not hipster. Let me just say it was Gucci belts, sparkles, long blonde, designer. Designer. But we all were, you know, and so now it is kind of fun to just like grow into ourselves, you know, and not feel like the pressure to be something else.
- [50:00]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, I feel like I'm kind of back to my roots, like literally color wise and just kind of how I grew up and everything. It's like you almost want the opposite of what that you have. So growing up, I did grow up on a farm. My parents, like, grew all of our vegetables and all of that type of stuff, and I hated it as a kid because it was like a work. It was work and chores, and if you got. If I got in trouble, I had to go, like, scoop cow poop and, like, help my dad, like, put the manure in the stuff. And it's like, I wanted the opposite life of that. I told my parents I wanted to move to New York City, and, like, that was the life I wanted for myself. But I always loved fashion and all of that, so I think I just went so hard, like, the opposite direction when I could, that now I'm like, that's actually not me. Or, like, not what I want for my life. So that's what our 30s are for.
- [50:42]
Danny Austin
It's like finding yourself, discovering ourselves and not being, like, in our 20s, trying to be something that we're not. Oh, I love it. I think it's beautiful. Okay, so you have really had. It is.
- [50:53]
Jordan Phillips
No, I agree. I agree.
- [50:54]
Danny Austin
What?
- [50:55]
Jordan Phillips
I agree. It was just funny the way you said it. You were like, I love it. It's so beautiful.
- [50:58]
Danny Austin
It's so beautiful. It is. So you've had. Can you talk more about your health journey?
- [51:05]
Laura Beverlyn
Yes.
- [51:05]
Danny Austin
Because that's been a whole shift in you. I mean, you got rid of the boobies. You're doing a lot of things.
- [51:10]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, there has been a huge shift.
- [51:12]
Jordan Phillips
We're holding on to those.
- [51:14]
Danny Austin
I know. We're trying. I saw you guys.
- [51:17]
Jordan Phillips
For us, they were newer to the family.
- [51:21]
Danny Austin
One day.
- [51:22]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. So there has been a huge shift. And this all start stemmed from our infertility journey. So we have been trying to start our family for years and years now.
- [51:34]
Danny Austin
So we have done.
- [51:36]
Laura Beverlyn
I think it started back in 2019 is when we actually went to our first. I remember IVF doctor and started pursuing that, which was also during COVID which was very difficult to get appointments and to do all of that. But we. We both come from huge families. Like, I'm one of six, Marky's one of five. We have 23 nieces and nephews. When everyone around you is having a baby, you just think it's gonna happen one day. And that was just kind of like our thought process. We just thought like, we would just get pregnant one day, and then it wasn't happening. And then we're like, well, okay, let's actually start, like, timing things and paying attention to it and actively trying. Still wasn't happening. And then I went to my OB and I was like, hey, we're trying to get pregnant. Like, I don't know what's going on. We're kind of tracking things and trying to figure stuff Out. So I did blood work to lots of testing, and she said that I needed to go right to a IVF clinic. And she thought that IVF would be the best way for us to get pregnant. So at that time, we knew nothing about IVF or infertility. We were completely clueless. We only knew what that doctor had told us at that point. So we're like, okay, cool. Like, we'll do this and we'll get pregnant. We have now been to five different doctors. It's been five years. We've done everything that everyone has told us. I have really advocated for myself with a lot of this because there's so much that doctors don't tell you. It's kind of just like, oh, you're only 36. Like, you know, we're gonna do this protocol, and this is gonna work for you. And then it doesn't. And they're like, okay, we're gonna up your medications. I was just pumped full of hormones and doing just tons of shots, like, multiple times a day. It was a really hard process for us. And then to go through multiple egg retrievals and transfers. And truly, I mean, we truly believed it was going to work every single time. And when you hold on to hope, like, so hard. And I was also sharing all of this. Like, we shared our lives. This is a part of our life. So we were sharing everything as it was happening. And then when it doesn't work, like, time and time and time again, we're like, okay, like, what is this gonna look like? So I really just started researching stuff myself and just finding out, like, how many things can affect our fertility. So it just created this whole lifestyle change. Because of this, I'm like, trying to figure out, like, okay, what's wrong with my body? How can I fix it? And just really started making all of these little changes over time and just questioning, like, okay, if this could be affecting my fertility. Like, my implants. I got implants. Like, I think it was like 2016, so they weren't very old. I didn't have them for very long. And I was like, in the back of my mind, I'm like, if this could be a factor, like, do I want this in my body? Like, am I going to regret not trying? Trying or not? Like, you know, yeah, seeing if that is an option. So I had them taken out. And I don't regret that decision at all, honestly. I'm like, why did I even get these? I don't miss them. And people didn't even know I had implants until I Would.
- [54:31]
Danny Austin
Which is really good. Oh, my God.
- [54:33]
Laura Beverlyn
Thank you, my doctor.
- [54:34]
Danny Austin
You look so cute now. They did, they did, they did. They looked real good.
- [54:39]
Marky Beverlyn
They still do.
- [54:39]
Danny Austin
Yeah. No, they look, they look. I love. It's so cute.
- [54:42]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, thank you. Yeah, I don't miss them. And honestly, there. There's so much behind the implants and like, get them taken out, not get them taken out. And I did share the entire process and I, I know so many people question, like, is it breast implant illness? And I don't think I had that. I wouldn't ever say, like, oh, Danny, get your implants taken out. I think it's such a personal decision for me. It was like, based on our fertility journey. But I don't regret the decision. I don't miss them at all. But that was kind of like the first big step I took towards this health journey. And then it was just the realization of what I was putting on my body, what I was eating. So I made a lot of, like, dietary shifts. I am gluten free, mostly dairy free now just because, like, the inflammation it caused in my body and the way I feel. So I've just made all these little changes and I feel like, like, if you look at. I actually just posted a little like my skin journey and you can see the, what my skin looks like, the inflammation in my face and in my body, the change that has happened over the last three years. And I won't say it's like one little thing, like one change, like, made that difference, but all of those little things added up. But it's kind of. I don't want to ever scare people into, yeah, like, what products and stuff can do to you, but I think understanding and educating yourself on, like, what you are putting on your body. So I stopped using a lot of products and that kind of stemmed back from like the beginning of our infertility journey of, like they say, treat your body like you're pregnant when you're going through ivf. So that meant eliminating a lot of products, like skincare products and stuff, like tanning products that weren't safe. Pregnancy safe.
- [56:23]
Danny Austin
Sure.
- [56:23]
Laura Beverlyn
And then we kind of dove into ingredients and I'm like, okay, well, if this isn't pregnancy safe, like, is it actually safe for me, like, do I need to stop using these all together? So it's kind of like a huge lifestyle change and just like simplified everything. But all of those little changes, I feel like, have added up and made such a difference in how I feel, how I look, just like the health of my skin, my Hair, Just my quality of life. And while it all started from, like, our infertility journey, I feel like it's just improved my quality of life. So I. I'm kind of grateful for everything that we've learned along the way and, like, what led me here. And I don't know if it'll ever make a difference in, like, if we will get pregnant naturally or if any of these little things, like, are going to affect that, but I'm just grateful that I discovered it because I feel so good right now.
- [57:13]
Danny Austin
Yeah, I was gonna say you walked in and, like, you were. You're not the same Laura that I knew. And, and you. You've always been so beautiful, but, like, you're, like, so glowy, radiant, healthy, even your hair, everything, like, you can just tell, like, in the best interest. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [57:30]
Jordan Phillips
Just be honest about that.
- [57:32]
Danny Austin
Oh, my God, stop it.
- [57:33]
Jordan Phillips
100.
- [57:35]
Marky Beverlyn
Nothing else you did made any difference.
- [57:37]
Danny Austin
Oh, my God.
- [57:38]
Laura Beverlyn
No. But I actually really did start. I. I really did start using divi. Like, when I was going through all of my fertility treatments, that's when I was like, I. My hair needed help. I was like, losing my hair from all of the hormones and all of the treatments, which is a big thing, like postpartum, all of that. Your hormone and hair health are so connected. So I was using divi religiously while going through all of that.
- [58:00]
Marky Beverlyn
You have no extensions in now.
- [58:01]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [58:01]
Marky Beverlyn
This is all like, the last, like, what, five years?
- [58:05]
Danny Austin
Yeah. I mean, we.
- [58:06]
Laura Beverlyn
We all did 10 years. We all did a very long time.
- [58:09]
Jordan Phillips
Marky and I just. We love our new wife.
- [58:12]
Danny Austin
Oh, my gosh. We're just so real. Okay. So when it came to. Because I remember, I mean, you. You've been sharing that whole journey and it's, It's. You have so many people that are cheering for you guys. They just love you guys so much. Are you going to change what you share moving forward? I think people will respect no matter what you decide.
- [58:33]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, I've really gone back and forth on that. And that's a question I get in my DMs. Every single day is like, why am I not sharing more about our fertility journey and what we're doing? We aren't actively doing a fertility treatment or anything. So the la. Last year, I just. I realized that I had endometriosis. I kind of self diagnosed myself. We had had an ectopic pregnancy earlier in the year, and that was our first, like, real pregnancy. We had had told our family, we had told our friends. I think I was like, right at, like, seven weeks. Yeah, like seven weeks. When we realized it was an epitopic pregnancy. So after that, I was like, why did this happen? Like, what could have caused this? I was really just kind of digging deeper. I'm like, is this going to happen again? Just deep diving into this. And so many things kept pointing to endometriosis. And, I mean, mind you, I had seen five IVF doctors. We had done multiple treatments, and I kind of kept questioning. I'm like, are you sure there's not something else wrong? Because they told me, like, my AMH was low, which meant, like, I was technically low ovarian reserve, but there was no root cause. There's no reason for it. And then one of the doctors.
- [59:44]
Danny Austin
Ovarian reserve means, like, low amount of eggs.
- [59:46]
Laura Beverlyn
Yes.
- [59:47]
Danny Austin
Okay, okay.
- [59:47]
Laura Beverlyn
And the last doctor that I'd seen in New York was like, this isn't true. Like, you can take supplements. And he was able to get my numbers higher to increase all of my levels, which technically put me out of that category of, like, diminished ovarian reserve. I was like, okay, well, that's super interesting. If it was just, like, supplements and stuff that my body was lacking, that could increase those numbers and those chances. But still, we did treatments through them, and it didn't work. But a lot of things kept telling me that there was, like, a root cause, that there was something else that could have been there. So I went to a doctor, and I was like, I want to get checked for endometriosis, which is a laparoscopy surgery, so they go into your stomach, like, robotically to check for it. And I did have endometriosis. After all those treatments and everything I'd been through, the doctor came out and said that what he found could have been preventing our transfers from sticking, could have been causing our low egg count and all of that. So it was, like, years worth of stuff where he was like, all of that adds up. Yeah. It could have been preventing all of that from working. So it almost felt like five years of IVF treatments, I want to say, were a waste. But there was a root cause and something that could have been preventing all of it the entire time.
- [61:09]
Jordan Phillips
Why? Why did none of the other doctors. Because I'm sure you guys went to great doctors, some of the best doctors. Why did they not not try and get to the root?
- [61:18]
Laura Beverlyn
That's something I still don't understand. Because some doctors. And when I shared that with Instagram, like, people were outraged for us, and, like, it took me a long time to process that. Like, I was so. I was like, we just wasted five years of our lives pursuing something that, like, we could have had this surgery and, like, been 10 steps ahead. A lot of doctors will check for that first. I think there's maybe symptoms and stuff that could have been more prevalent in other people where they're like, oh, let's. Let's look for this. I didn't have any. But there is, like, silent endometriosis, where you can have it and it doesn't have very obvious symptoms.
- [61:52]
Marky Beverlyn
They probably just thought that the percentage change was so low. Like, maybe that's why they just didn't.
- [61:56]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, because there isn't an obvious thing.
- [61:58]
Marky Beverlyn
You can't just be like, it's. It's a. It's a invasive surgery. So I think that they probably just thought the percentage change was so low that that's why they didn't want to pursue it. But.
- [62:06]
Danny Austin
And that's crazy that the only reason happened is because Laura advocated for herself. Like. Like, you probably to this day wouldn't have known if you didn't.
- [62:13]
Laura Beverlyn
No.
- [62:13]
Marky Beverlyn
Well, they ask you questions like, do you have irregular periods? You have painful. Painful interplay.
- [62:17]
Laura Beverlyn
Which I'm, like, pretty healthy. Like, there's nothing obviously wrong. So I guess maybe because I checked all of those boxes, like, everything was normal, that maybe they just didn't ever think of that. Yeah. So I had that surgery. It was the last September. And since then, we're like, okay. We're like, give my body a chance to heal and just see what happens and just kind of try naturally. And then in six months, nothing had happened. So then I was like, how was. How can I move forward and keep pursuing, like, getting pregnant, but keep it more natural without going through, like, another IVF treatment? So we started seeing Mike. He's a little bit more of, like, a holistic doctor. He's not an endocrinologist, but he focuses more on, like, your hormones, your stress levels, your diet, and how, like, your gut and all of that can impact your fertility and your hormone health. So that's kind of what I've been doing over, like, the last few months or last almost six months now.
- [63:10]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [63:11]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. It's been, like. Yeah, over six months. And I've. I've noticed a big difference in how I feel. So I definitely feel like it's, like, improved my quality of life, just going down that road. But, I mean, we're still not pregnant, so.
- [63:23]
Danny Austin
Yeah. And you think that you might maybe in the future just keep that. That a little more, like, to. To yourselves with you and Marky, like, just, you know, and not feeling like you have to share everything or just maybe just see what happens.
- [63:37]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, I don't feel the pressure to share everything. I think before it was, like, almost, like, an expectation to share everything as it was happening, and now I definitely don't feel that pressure. Like, I feel like I'm very, like, at peace with, like, let us. We're just gonna, like, deal with stuff in real life and then share when it feels right for us.
- [63:52]
Danny Austin
Right.
- [63:53]
Laura Beverlyn
So we'll kind of see how we feel, like, when the time comes, but definitely not as, like, in the moment. Step by step, every second. Documented. I don't think I would do that again.
- [64:03]
Danny Austin
What. What would you say to someone that is going through. I'm sure you have a lot of women that follow you that are going through something similar. Like, what has been the best encouragement for you? And, like, what would you tell those women, maybe, that are just now starting out on their journey?
- [64:16]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, my gosh. It's so hard because it is such a, like, emotional thing to go through and so mentally draining. And then it's like, a physical thing. Like, you are getting your body pumped full of hormones and all of that. Like, you just feel it all over. Like, I think my biggest advice is just find that sense of peace, whatever that looks like for you. And I think that's really where, like, my, like, morning routine kind of just. I was like, I need this, like, sense of peace and quiet time with God before I start my day. Before things get busy, I need that, like, little bit of peace. So I think that would be, like, my biggest advice is just, like, find quiet time. Spend time with God. Like, spend time with yourself before. Like, before the day before your, you know, the stress kicks in and before you're doing your IVF shots or whatever that looks like. I think just, like, prioritizing that for yourself is, like, the biggest thing. And I think I. I wish I would have done that, and I wish I would have had that in the beginning, because you do. You wake up and you're doing shots, and I feel like that just kind of, like, like, sets your day, and it can be, like, just heavy and hard and stressful. So I think just having that little bit of, like, a reset can just, like, give you so much peace and more hope going forward.
- [65:28]
Danny Austin
What advice would you give husbands that are supporting their wives in this? Because I'm sure, like, that's a whole nother part. Maybe Marky can speak to this too. Like, because there has to be a Whole nother, you know, part of your relationship that you're exploring that you didn't. You probably don't. There's not, like, a book of, like, this is how you handle it. And I'm sure sometimes it can be challenging on relationships.
- [65:52]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. Markie has been the most supportive. In the beginning, I couldn't do the shots myself. It just all kind of freaked me out and was just, like, another layer of stress. So he was doing the shots for me and just really involved in the process, and he went to every appointment and really was understanding what we were doing and learning about it so that he could be the most supportive.
- [66:10]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah, I think it's. I think it's just understanding, like, that you. That I need to be emotionally supportive for her. And one of the things that I, you know, that I've told her throughout this process, I told her many times, you know, I said, you know, I married you because of who you are, because I love you. Like, I didn't marry you for your ability to make children. Like, it never was a thought in my mind. I was like, so, you know, ultimately, if we never have kids, like, I'm content with that. Like, obviously, I want to have a child. Like, I want to have a baby, but, like, I would never, ever hold that against her. And I. And I know it's probably hard for some husbands because maybe that's a huge primal urge. And men, a lot of times is to have a family. And, like, look, I'd love to, but, like, it would never be, like, at the expense of my wife. Like, it's nothing. There's nothing in between us about that. It's just, you know, I'm 100% supportive, and I love where we are.
- [67:02]
Jordan Phillips
Gosh dang it, Marky. Cry on my own podcast.
- [67:06]
Danny Austin
No, it really is just, like, amazing. And y' all have always been, like, such a strong power couple. You guys have always just, like, loved each other so much. Like, I remember going on trips with Laura, and she would just go on and on about Marky. Like, on and on. I'm like, who is this guy? And, like, no offense, but, like, some other wives were like, oh, my God, my husband's sauer. And you were just, like, always, just so true. Just obsessed with Marky, and I just am. I love that.
- [67:31]
Marky Beverlyn
I love that we're pretty obsessed with each other. Other.
- [67:33]
Laura Beverlyn
It's.
- [67:33]
Marky Beverlyn
It's. It's cool. I mean, it's cool. No, it's cool. No, but you said, like, there's. There's a lot of husbands and Wives, like, we love spending all day together. We can be here every day, all day. We work together all day.
- [67:44]
Laura Beverlyn
We don't get sick of each other.
- [67:45]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah. And, like, you know, our good friends that we're hanging are staying with here in Dallas, like, same way. They just absolutely love being with each other. And it's. It's just so cool to see that, like, type of relationship, because a lot of times, you know, husbands and wives are like, oh, good, go golf. Like, get away so I can have some time to myself. Or. Or I'm gonna go hang out with the girls because I don't want to, you know.
- [68:03]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
- [68:03]
Marky Beverlyn
Deal with your stuff.
- [68:05]
Laura Beverlyn
I will say, though, going through all of our infertility stuff and going through ivf, as hard as it's been, it's really brought us closer together. And I'm, like, I'm really grateful for that. Like, it's brought us closer together. It's brought us closer to God. And I just feel like it's, like, strengthened our relationship and brought it to a level like, we didn't know that we would have these type of struggles, and this is truly the hardest thing we've ever had to deal with. And, like, it really could have affected our marriage, and it could have affected our relationship in a negative way, and it's just allowed us to grow so close together. So I'm grateful for, like, where it's brought us.
- [68:38]
Marky Beverlyn
And I will say one. One other piece of advice for husbands is if your wife is going through infertility treatments, there's a lot of hormones going through her body.
- [68:49]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
- [68:49]
Marky Beverlyn
So it's not her fault. It's. No, it's. It's similar to pregnancy. It's like there's going to be emotional roller coasters, and it's even maybe more amplified because of, you know, in our case, in many cases, the lack of success. Like, you know, you're so invested in this. Your wife is, you know, crying. She's happy, she's sad, she's happy, she's. You know, all this stuff's going on. And then you get to, you know, you go through the whole process, do the implantation, and then, you know you're not pregnant. And then, so it's like, very, very heavy, very sad time. And you've got to be there for her. Obviously, you're sad, but you want to be supportive of her because, like. Like, she's physically going through this and feeling all these emotions, feeling like she's letting herself down, feeling like she's letting me down. So, like, you've got to really be supportive of your spouse, because there's a lot of stuff that they're going through that you're just not gonna be able to, you know, feel the same way about. But you have to be understanding of what they're doing.
- [69:38]
Jordan Phillips
How did you keep your cup filled during that time?
- [69:41]
Danny Austin
That's a good question.
- [69:42]
Jordan Phillips
Because you. You had to be strong for her. Did you have good community around you? I don't think you golf.
- [69:48]
Danny Austin
He's like, I talk to the horses.
- [69:51]
Marky Beverlyn
I don't know. I'm a huge. I'm a unique character.
- [69:54]
Laura Beverlyn
I will say Marky is always happy. He wakes up happy. He is the most level. And like.
- [70:01]
Jordan Phillips
Or he's. Or he's a powder keg, just waiting.
- [70:05]
Marky Beverlyn
Just bottling it all up. It is. It's odd. I don't understand it myself. Like, you know, Laura doesn't understand either, because, like, I'm. Like I said, I wake up, I'm, like, singing in the morning, and I'm, like, happy. And it's.
- [70:14]
Laura Beverlyn
It's like that all the time, all day, every day. Just happiest, like, most level person ever. Like, no matter what's going on.
- [70:23]
Danny Austin
Meditate, you pray? You, like, journal?
- [70:28]
Marky Beverlyn
No, No, I mean, I. I do. I do pray, but, like, I. I don't. I. It's not like a ritual. Yeah. It's not like I pray to. Because I'm. I'm getting upset about something, so I use it to, like, you know.
- [70:37]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
- [70:38]
Marky Beverlyn
Diffuse myself. I just. For some reason, I used to have a bad temper when I was a kid, and it, like, went away when I was probably, like, in my late teens. Like, I mean, like, kick stuff, punch the door, like, throw stuff through a window. Like, just.
- [70:49]
Laura Beverlyn
I could just not picture that marking.
- [70:51]
Marky Beverlyn
No, but it's like that volatile stuff, and just. I just one day, like, I don't know, just. Just disappeared and never came back. Yeah. I don't know.
- [70:58]
Jordan Phillips
I would imagine part of your secret, and you can confirm this, Laura, is that you just think about yourself less. Like, so I think a lot of the times when we get angry or frustrated, we're. We're saying to ourselves, like, oh, this is affecting me, or, oh, I deserve this. And I. I think that you seem like such a selfless person that. That allows for you to stay steady state.
- [71:19]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. I think that's actually, like, the perfect definition of marquee. He cares more about everyone else than himself.
- [71:25]
Danny Austin
Like, he was more worried about Champagne Chanel's shoes. She was. Yeah.
- [71:30]
Laura Beverlyn
He would do anything for anyone he would drop any, like, his entire day just to go help someone. And that's. Marky.
- [71:36]
Danny Austin
No.
- [71:36]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. You just don't think about yourself.
- [71:39]
Danny Austin
And that probably makes people. Like, that makes people happy over time is to make other people happy. Because, like, when you're just trying to fulfill yourself, it gets old.
- [71:47]
Jordan Phillips
Yeah. Because all. When we're unhappy, all we're doing is ruminating on what we deserve or what we want or whatever.
- [71:53]
Marky Beverlyn
That's very interesting. Yeah. Because she's always asked me, she's like, you know, what's your goals? Like, what makes you, like, what do you want to do? What's your. And I'm like, honestly, like, making you happy, like, helping other people is like, literally, it's what fulfills me is when other people are happy because it makes me feel good. It gives me. It gives me worth. Yeah.
- [72:08]
Danny Austin
Self worth.
- [72:08]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah. Because it's like, I. I don't get self worth from doing things. I mean, like, I love, you know, playing sports and having fun and being good at things, you know, that gives me, you know, enjoyment. But, like, true fulfillment comes from helping other people.
- [72:21]
Danny Austin
God, I wish. I wish we could have all figured that out sooner. Like, you know, how old are you, Marky?
- [72:27]
Marky Beverlyn
39.
- [72:28]
Jordan Phillips
Oh, that's not fair. He's.
- [72:29]
Marky Beverlyn
He's.
- [72:30]
Jordan Phillips
He's got wisdom.
- [72:31]
Danny Austin
No, but it sounds like he's always been like that. Oh, my gosh. Well, thank you guys for sharing. I know that's a heavier topic, but I know our audience will really appreciate it. And you guys are such a.
- [72:41]
Jordan Phillips
One question and then we get into rapid fire.
- [72:45]
Danny Austin
Where.
- [72:46]
Jordan Phillips
Where do you guys see yourselves in like 10 years? Individually, professionally, personally, as a couple.
- [72:52]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, my gosh. It's such a loaded question.
- [72:54]
Jordan Phillips
I know you guys talk about it.
- [72:55]
Laura Beverlyn
We have talked about it, but we actually don't have, have. I feel like we don't have a definitive plan. I feel like I've asked him. I'm like, what do we want in five years? I mean, obviously we want a family. I think that's a big thing. I think taking kind of a step back from social media was like, one of my goals for myself, but I've kind of already done that. Like, I feel like I'm in a really good place with that. Just that work, life, balance. I think just enjoying our farm. I want to have a really big garden.
- [73:20]
Jordan Phillips
I think we all. We all beat the more monster because we all, like, that was the grind. The grind was more, more, more.
- [73:26]
Danny Austin
The fact that you're like, I just want to garden and, like, Jordan said like, babe, like, what do you want on the next. I'm like, I just want to play tennis. That's really it. Like, I really don't really want anything else because anything else just sounds like more work, just.
- [73:39]
Laura Beverlyn
But simplicity, just like peace. Simplicity, just like, just to enjoy life.
- [73:44]
Danny Austin
Just enjoy life.
- [73:45]
Jordan Phillips
Do you guys think that that's a product of us moving into our 30s or is that a product?
- [73:50]
Danny Austin
No, I think we were all survived the grind, unhealthy for like five, 10 years.
- [73:54]
Laura Beverlyn
Years.
- [73:55]
Danny Austin
I think we grinded like in an unhealthy way where, yes, there's a lot of jobs where I think that you grind, like with your time, but I feel like we, like, lost ourselves.
- [74:05]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. Oh, for sure. I definitely feel like that. Yeah. Like, now it's like I've finally like come back to myself, but it's taken years. And there, there was no self awareness that I was getting lost or that I was doing too much in the moment. It was just like you were doing what was there and what was necessary and what, what it took to keep up with social media and all of it. And I really do feel like I lost myself along the way in all of that.
- [74:28]
Jordan Phillips
Well, the, the, the, the reality of the situation, just outside perspective, but sort of inside, is that if you looked at the daily grind, it was create content, have thousands of people comment in DMS about what you're creating.
- [74:44]
Danny Austin
Create a, a perfect life that actually isn't it the way that it seems.
- [74:48]
Jordan Phillips
But, but even, even the side of it that was relatable. Because relatability became a strategy too. Right? So, like, it's that feedback loop of like, here's who we want you to be that I think it's so easy to understand how y' all lost yourselves in other people's opinions of who you should be.
- [75:07]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, you kind of become like a chameleon. And I feel like threes are so bad about that. It's like, it's like, tell me what you want me to be. Tell me what you want.
- [75:14]
Danny Austin
And I do want me to move out to the farm and help you. Like, I'm a horse girl.
- [75:18]
Laura Beverlyn
And it's like you can just like, you just like keep like shape shifting into what the world wants and what like the expectations are. And I feel like it was just like these blinders on for so long and just feeling so, like you're just so sucked into it that like, I feel like it just kind of takes like a big, like you, like a big shake moment where you're like, we Need a big excitement explosion. Yeah.
- [75:41]
Danny Austin
Oh.
- [75:42]
Jordan Phillips
So here's my last question for both of you guys. So I like to study this, like, new class of creators, the Tick Tockers, because I see them really in the same era that you guys were in, in, like, 2018. Like, they're getting. They're traveling all the time.
- [75:58]
Danny Austin
They're.
- [75:59]
Laura Beverlyn
I'm not the biggest Tick tock.
- [76:01]
Jordan Phillips
That's okay. But. But you can. You can imagine what I'm saying.
- [76:04]
Danny Austin
Like, they're just like the newer, up and coming gen of, like, influencers. Do you ever watch them?
- [76:09]
Laura Beverlyn
Not really.
- [76:10]
Danny Austin
I've.
- [76:10]
Laura Beverlyn
I don't consume as much content, like, nearly as much content as I used to.
- [76:14]
Jordan Phillips
Yeah, and that's good. So. So there's a new class coming, and what's happening is they are in vogue, right? And so all the brands are shipping them to all these travel trips. They're on, all the influencer trips. They're, you know, they're traveling. I can see the wrestle of, like, them being like, oh, like, I have to go travel for work, but I don't want to leave my kids. So all the things that, that y' all went through. So what would be your biggest piece of advice, both of you, to these new Tick Tockers, based on being there, done it before?
- [76:47]
Danny Austin
I don't know. I feel like for me, the biggest thing was just, like, have a whole life offline that nobody knows about, and whatever that means for you, whether it's like your hobby or your relationship or your kids that you don't share, whatever. Some people, it could be different for anyone and everyone, but, like. Like, I felt like I didn't have a life outside of Instagram. Like, everything, every relationship, every friendship, everything I ever accomplished, anything I ever made, it was all had to be there. And now I have this whole other life that I don't feel like people know as much, and it's like, it's mine and it's special to me, and it makes me feel good because, like, it's not something that I feel like I have to show the world. Like, I'm doing things for, just for me.
- [77:30]
Jordan Phillips
And we're doing things for us just for us too. You know, it's like, it's. I think it's improved everything across the board. What's your advice?
- [77:37]
Laura Beverlyn
Gosh, that's so hard. I think my biggest piece of advice was is to be happy with what you're doing. Like, if you actually truly enjoy it and can find that balance, which, again, I think is having that balance of being Able to shut it off and not feeling like you have to document every single moment of your life. I. I guess it would just be finding balance. Like, make time to put your phone down and live in reality. Because tick tock isn't real life.
- [78:06]
Danny Austin
So as much as you want it to be, it's not.
- [78:08]
Laura Beverlyn
It's not, it's not, it's not. And it's not everything. It feels. All of it feels like it's everything. And that's like, what the entire world revolves around. But it's not. It's like you just have to find that, like, real life, work life, balance. And for me, it's like, I put my phone down. I'm not consuming other people's content because I think that's another thing where you see what everyone else is doing. Like, oh, she's posting three times a day. I need to post three times a day. So you feel like you have to keep up with everything.
- [78:33]
Danny Austin
Because Laura and I, we were very similar in the way we consume content. We weren't consuming content, like comparing our lifestyles to other people. We were consuming content with the lens of saying, she posted four times today. I need to post four times today. Like, yeah, not. Not worried about the lifestyle. It was the cadence of the post or how much they were posting. You know, it was very, like.
- [78:53]
Laura Beverlyn
Like a strategic, you know, very analytical.
- [78:55]
Danny Austin
Analytical. Yes. That's good. That's really good. Well, okay, I want to switch to a quick segment that we do called things that make you go, and then we'll go into rapid fire questions.
- [79:07]
Jordan Phillips
No, no, just go into rapid fire and let's ask them the question as part of the rapid fire. But save it for me.
- [79:13]
Danny Austin
Okay, we will go just straight into rapid fire. Question questions. I haven't read these because our producer wrote them, so.
- [79:19]
Laura Beverlyn
Sorry, there's.
- [79:20]
Danny Austin
I don't know. What is one habit that you have? Okay, y' all are both going to answer, and you have to go really fast. Okay, ready? What is one habit that you have a hard time breaking, Laura?
- [79:29]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, gosh. I've, like, really, like, honed in on my, like, bad habits. I don't have one.
- [79:37]
Danny Austin
Murky. Go.
- [79:38]
Jordan Phillips
She's perfect.
- [79:38]
Danny Austin
She's perfect.
- [79:40]
Laura Beverlyn
A bad habit.
- [79:41]
Danny Austin
Oh, my God. You don't have any bad habits.
- [79:43]
Laura Beverlyn
I'm, like, trying to think of something.
- [79:44]
Marky Beverlyn
I really worked on myself, leading my stuff everywhere.
- [79:47]
Danny Austin
Yeah, okay.
- [79:47]
Jordan Phillips
He's messy.
- [79:48]
Danny Austin
You're messy.
- [79:48]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [79:49]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, my gosh. A bad habit.
- [79:50]
Marky Beverlyn
I just set stuff down anywhere.
- [79:51]
Laura Beverlyn
What's my bad habit?
- [79:52]
Danny Austin
Yeah, maybe you should share each Other.
- [79:53]
Laura Beverlyn
I know. I'm like, okay, Marky's is definitely a mess. I'm, like, constantly picking up after him.
- [79:57]
Jordan Phillips
Okay, what's hers? Gosh, he's too good. He's too nice.
- [80:02]
Marky Beverlyn
She does nothing wrong. No, man, I don't know.
- [80:08]
Jordan Phillips
She ever get angry at you, Candy?
- [80:09]
Marky Beverlyn
I do.
- [80:10]
Danny Austin
I do find chewing gum chewing loud.
- [80:15]
Laura Beverlyn
Marky is a loud shoe or two.
- [80:17]
Danny Austin
Do you ever fall asleep with your mascara on?
- [80:18]
Marky Beverlyn
Oh, she's got all kinds of bad habits.
- [80:20]
Jordan Phillips
I've got pull up Reddit.
- [80:24]
Danny Austin
I'm sure they've forgot to floss your teeth some night.
- [80:26]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, I forgot. I forget to flush the toilet. Oh, that's why we're getting. Mark is putting the automatic flusher toilet in our house.
- [80:32]
Danny Austin
He doesn't complain. He just fixes it.
- [80:34]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah, yeah, he does it.
- [80:35]
Danny Austin
He just does it.
- [80:35]
Laura Beverlyn
It's just automatic.
- [80:37]
Danny Austin
I've been doing that too, lately. It's because I have to pee so much and I'm like, I'm gonna have to flush it in, like, 20 minutes. I might as well just leave this one here. Okay, next one. Oh, this is interesting. What is one wellness trend you think is completely bogus?
- [80:51]
Laura Beverlyn
A wellness trend?
- [80:53]
Danny Austin
Like, is there something that you've tried that you're like, okay, that was just kind of. That's silly.
- [80:57]
Laura Beverlyn
I don't know. I'm not, like, the biggest fan of juicing, like, for no reason.
- [81:00]
Danny Austin
I don't know why it hurts my tummy.
- [81:02]
Laura Beverlyn
I don't know. Like, the whole, like, celery juicer thing. I really felt like I needed to do that, and I'm like, I. I don't want to do. I'm not gonna do that.
- [81:08]
Danny Austin
Okay. That's a. It's a lot of work. Yeah. Yeah.
- [81:11]
Laura Beverlyn
I don't know if this is actually worth it.
- [81:13]
Danny Austin
Like, can't I celery the celery? Like, yeah. Why'd I have to juice it? Yeah. Okay.
- [81:18]
Jordan Phillips
What about raw milk?
- [81:20]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, okay. We went on a Raw milk.
- [81:22]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [81:24]
Laura Beverlyn
Our team is very into raw milk. We have a local place that we get it from. I tried it for a while, and then I realized it was, like, just causing a lot of inflammation in my body. It tastes delicious. It tastes better than regular milk. Yeah.
- [81:37]
Danny Austin
Our.
- [81:37]
Laura Beverlyn
Our team is very into it. We have, like, a lot of, like, health girlies.
- [81:41]
Marky Beverlyn
I'm not anti raw milk, and I'm not, like, I never, like, dug into this. I'm just a little weirded out by it because, like, when you get raw milk, like, a lot of times it comes from, like, Local farms and stuff. And I'm. I'm kind of like a weird person about, like, cleanliness and, like, you know, germs and stuff like that. So I'm like, like, like, did they wash their hands while they're, like, milking this cow into a bucket? And now I'm like, drinking the milk.
- [81:58]
Laura Beverlyn
Like, his sister does it. His sister has a milk cow. And, like, they.
- [82:01]
Marky Beverlyn
They consume their own, which is fine. Like family. If you. If you milk your own cows and you consume it, like, I complete. You see the whole process all the way through.
- [82:08]
Laura Beverlyn
It's so much work. No. Yeah, I don't have time for that.
- [82:11]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah, you have to milk twice a day.
- [82:13]
Laura Beverlyn
I don't drink dairy, so. No.
- [82:14]
Marky Beverlyn
Yes.
- [82:16]
Danny Austin
Everyone's like, it's better for you. I'm like, but I don't even really drink that much. Much milk. I like. I like milk in my cereal or, like, in my coffee, I guess. Cream. Do you drink cream in your coffee?
- [82:25]
Laura Beverlyn
Are you non dairy?
- [82:27]
Danny Austin
Yeah. Okay. Okay. Number three. What is the hardest part about living on a farm?
- [82:35]
Laura Beverlyn
Honestly? The smell.
- [82:37]
Danny Austin
Yeah. Who cleans up the food?
- [82:40]
Laura Beverlyn
No, we've actually had trouble with our chicken coop. We built our own chicken coop. That was my birthday present last year. And while I love it, I love our chickens.
- [82:47]
Danny Austin
I'm like, can you imagine your birthday gift being a chicken?
- [82:50]
Laura Beverlyn
No, chicken coop. And I got chickens. No, we didn't. We didn't think about that part or realize the smell. Well, because, like, the rain, like, gets in their coop and then it's. It's like a poopy smell. It's like we open our back door and, like, if it just rained, it smells like chicken poop.
- [83:05]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [83:05]
Laura Beverlyn
And that's just something.
- [83:05]
Marky Beverlyn
It's a little too close to the house.
- [83:07]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, it's a little too close.
- [83:08]
Jordan Phillips
You guys got 60 acres just moving.
- [83:09]
Laura Beverlyn
I know. They should have been further away.
- [83:13]
Marky Beverlyn
Well, we wanted them in the backyard so they'd be safer and everything.
- [83:16]
Danny Austin
Eggs, every.
- [83:16]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, right? Yeah, we love eggs.
- [83:18]
Danny Austin
Are your eggs like orange? Because they're like real eggs. Yeah.
- [83:20]
Laura Beverlyn
You can see.
- [83:21]
Marky Beverlyn
You can see a little different yolk color. Yeah.
- [83:23]
Danny Austin
Yeah. The difference. Wow.
- [83:25]
Laura Beverlyn
They taste better, too.
- [83:26]
Danny Austin
That's crazy. Okay, let's see. Wait, actually, who does clean up the poop?
- [83:31]
Laura Beverlyn
Both of us. Like, so I'll go in the chicken coop and, like, literally be cleaning it out. Like, that is.
- [83:35]
Danny Austin
I will get horse poop.
- [83:36]
Marky Beverlyn
Like, all the horses and cows, they really don't need to be cleaned up too much. We have a. We have a drag. So we can Drag the field so it actually like kind of just mashes the.
- [83:44]
Laura Beverlyn
We have to clean up the stalls down the smaller areas. Like we'll just go out and scoop poop and.
- [83:49]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [83:50]
Danny Austin
It's a date night, right?
- [83:51]
Laura Beverlyn
Just put on your muck boots. Gonna be out there. Yes, you can do it.
- [83:54]
Jordan Phillips
Danny, we're gonna hire your dad. He's gonna move on to the property.
- [83:58]
Danny Austin
Oh, my God.
- [83:59]
Jordan Phillips
He's very handy.
- [84:01]
Marky Beverlyn
Come on down to the farm, test it out a little bit.
- [84:03]
Laura Beverlyn
We'll do a trial run. We'll do a weekend.
- [84:05]
Danny Austin
Oh, this is a good one. What's a conspiracy theory? You low key believe leave. Are y' all like into conspiracy?
- [84:13]
Laura Beverlyn
I'm not very, I'm not. Marky is aware of all of them. I don't know that he like, believes conspiracy theories.
- [84:18]
Marky Beverlyn
I, I, my thing with conspiracy theories is like, I'm, I'm really evidence back. So like, I just. And that's the hard thing about conspiracy theories is you don't find a lot of actual evidence for them. So.
- [84:28]
Danny Austin
Do you think we landed on the moon?
- [84:30]
Jordan Phillips
It's a fair question.
- [84:33]
Laura Beverlyn
I would say.
- [84:35]
Marky Beverlyn
I think you say, you usually say no, I lean towards yes. Yeah, that's fair.
- [84:40]
Laura Beverlyn
I do think there's aliens though.
- [84:41]
Danny Austin
Okay, cool. Yeah, I think so too.
- [84:43]
Jordan Phillips
Moving on.
- [84:45]
Laura Beverlyn
We don't have a good answer for that one.
- [84:48]
Marky Beverlyn
I feel like landing on the moon, not that it'd be extremely hard to fake like the, the moon landing, like video and stuff like that, but I just feel like the COVID up would be, would be really hard to fake, I think, you know, for, for what is it, 50 years now since they landed on the moon the first time? So 69 or something like that. Yeah, yeah. I feel like it's like to have that covered up from all the NASA scientists who were, I know guys, we.
- [85:10]
Jordan Phillips
Like move into this house, they know we're here the next day. They have like our whole address. So it's like, how are they gonna fake that?
- [85:16]
Danny Austin
That's true. That's true. Okay, let's see. Do you have a dream collab?
- [85:23]
Laura Beverlyn
A dream collab?
- [85:26]
Marky Beverlyn
I remember back in the day though. So this one I remember. You would love to work with Gucci. I was such a, like, no, I was such like, like when I first was like doing the management and everything like that. I'm like emailing Gucci. Like I'm gonna try and get her some kind of like a collab or something. Like she's got like 10, 000 followers. I'm like, yeah, hey, Gucci.
- [85:45]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. Laura wears your belt every single day. We need a collab.
- [85:48]
Danny Austin
She did wear the heck out of them.
- [85:50]
Marky Beverlyn
They didn't even reply to that email. I don't know. Why'd he go Gucci.
- [85:53]
Jordan Phillips
They didn't get it.
- [85:54]
Danny Austin
I love that. Okay, let's see. Piece of advice you would give your younger selves.
- [86:01]
Laura Beverlyn
Don't try so hard.
- [86:02]
Danny Austin
Don't try so hard yourself.
- [86:04]
Laura Beverlyn
Be your be. I actually have it.
- [86:07]
Danny Austin
Oh.
- [86:08]
Laura Beverlyn
Believe in yourself. Believe in yourself. And I think that's like that probably 15 years ago. Yeah. Yeah. Be yourself. Believe in yourself.
- [86:18]
Jordan Phillips
This whole time is written on your foot.
- [86:19]
Danny Austin
Yes. All you need to do is just look down.
- [86:21]
Jordan Phillips
Just look down.
- [86:23]
Laura Beverlyn
I'm too busy looking at my phone.
- [86:24]
Danny Austin
Yeah.
- [86:26]
Marky Beverlyn
Okay. My biggest piece of advice would be to spend as much time as you can with your family. Family is so important. Build relationships with. With really solid friends, because you'll meet a lot of people in the world that'll be kind of like, friends, but you're only gonna have, like, a solid group of, like, real core friends. So I'd say to make sure you culture and foster those relationships.
- [86:46]
Danny Austin
That's good.
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Jordan Phillips
Okay, my last question is thoughts on the new Cracker Barrel logo.
- [86:50]
Marky Beverlyn
Oh, my God.
- [86:51]
Laura Beverlyn
We've had many conversations about this.
- [86:53]
Marky Beverlyn
Have you?
- [86:54]
Jordan Phillips
You had to, right?
- [86:55]
Danny Austin
Cracker. Cracker Barrel.
- [86:58]
Laura Beverlyn
Every Sunday we were there.
- [86:59]
Jordan Phillips
Yeah, I know. That's why I'm so curious.
- [87:00]
Danny Austin
What was your go to meal?
- [87:01]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, I love the hash brown bowl.
- [87:04]
Danny Austin
Okay.
- [87:04]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, my gosh. It's so good. Wait, did you Grilled onions on top? We haven't been in a long time. We actually haven't been.
- [87:10]
Marky Beverlyn
Nothing to do with that rebranding, though.
- [87:12]
Danny Austin
Oh, okay.
- [87:13]
Marky Beverlyn
No, we still. We still like Cracker Barrel. We just don't get there as much. It's more geographical now. We, like, moved to an area where there's not one right nearby. We lived in an area where there was one, like, pretty close. It was, like a regular staple. Now we have to drive, like, 30. 30 minutes to get to a Cracker Barrel.
- [87:28]
Jordan Phillips
People were irate.
- [87:29]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [87:29]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [87:30]
Jordan Phillips
This new logo.
- [87:30]
Laura Beverlyn
Oh, we were following the whole thing.
- [87:31]
Jordan Phillips
They reversed it.
- [87:32]
Marky Beverlyn
No, I. I agree. It was a. It was a terrible decision.
- [87:36]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah. I vote original.
- [87:38]
Marky Beverlyn
The inside rebranding with, like, painting them stark white and, like, removing the antiques, like.
- [87:41]
Jordan Phillips
Well, I think what happened is they have these, like, like, Northeastern executives who have no idea, like, who the actual customer is, like, running it, and then they reverse everything.
- [87:51]
Danny Austin
Isn't it kind of like the same thing that all like, McDonald's and Burger King, they're all just plopping their logo on a modern building, so if they run out of business, it's easier to sell the building.
- [88:00]
Marky Beverlyn
I've heard that theory, too, because then.
- [88:04]
Danny Austin
Nobody'S gonna buy, like, a Pizza Hut building that looks. It's all real.
- [88:08]
Marky Beverlyn
Are you setting yourself up for failure, though?
- [88:10]
Jordan Phillips
I think that. So. So.
- [88:11]
Danny Austin
Because then you can, like, Burger King fails because it's a franchisee, comes in and just, like, rent, like, kind of, like, rents the building genuinely.
- [88:19]
Jordan Phillips
So.
- [88:19]
Marky Beverlyn
Okay.
- [88:19]
Jordan Phillips
I'm telling the story, and I don't. This is not me speaking poorly of this person. I actually love him. But I interviewed this candidate for CEO of Divi, and he lived in the Northeast. He's lived in the Northeast his whole life. And when he came down to Texas, he genuinely, I think, thought he was stepping into, like, the 1800s. Like, he was like, oh, my gosh. Like, am I gonna be safe here? You know, am I gonna. Are people gonna hate me?
- [88:47]
Danny Austin
Walk around with guns?
- [88:49]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [88:49]
Jordan Phillips
And I was like. I was like, hey, Like, I'm not. It's not like I'm wearing a Trump shirt underneath my. My suit jacket here. And it was just so funny because he. A couple days later, he texted me, and he was like, hey, like, I am so proud of. New Yorkers need to meet Texans, and Texans need to meet New Yorkers. Because I think it's just such a disconnect in the cultures that I genuinely think that these Northeast.
- [89:13]
Danny Austin
What does that have to do with Cracker Barrel?
- [89:14]
Jordan Phillips
Because I think that what. I think that what was happening was I think she genuinely thought it was a good idea. And she was like. She was the CEO.
- [89:22]
Danny Austin
Okay. I was like, who is.
- [89:25]
Jordan Phillips
I don't know if she's fired yet, but the stock plummeted really fast. But I. I think she genuinely believed, like, less American, making it more modern and more, like, you know, Northeastern feeling was a good idea. Because the. The. Her disconnect with the actual, like, because it's a Tennessee company.
- [89:42]
Marky Beverlyn
Right.
- [89:42]
Laura Beverlyn
I think.
- [89:43]
Jordan Phillips
I believe it was, like, in Tennessee, like, her. Her ignorance on, like, the actual customer of Cracker Bale was so well and partial.
- [89:52]
Marky Beverlyn
I don't want to, like, defend her, but, like, you know, play devil advocate. It was probably because of, like, a slowdown in sales or a loss of market share. Sure. Like, they see this. This indicator, like, okay, we've got to do something.
- [90:04]
Jordan Phillips
Sure.
- [90:05]
Marky Beverlyn
Now what do we do? Not what they did. They've got to. They got to figure out, you know, is it a pricing thing? Is it A food quality thing. Like, why are they losing. Share it. If it's. They need to rebrand the entire restaurant to, like, stark white and then, like, change the whole, like.
- [90:20]
Jordan Phillips
Well, that's why I was asking. Why did you guys stop going?
- [90:22]
Marky Beverlyn
What?
- [90:22]
Jordan Phillips
Because people were saying quality did go down a little bit.
- [90:26]
Danny Austin
Quality goes our local. Everywhere.
- [90:28]
Marky Beverlyn
Our local, local cracker bro. It's always been pretty solid. We have two nearby. One is, like, never been that great, so we try not to go to it, but that's, like an individual, like, location thing where it's like, they don't. They don't cook the food that well. But, like, when you go to a good quality one and the food's always good, then.
- [90:42]
Jordan Phillips
Well, listen, they're gonna listen to this podcast. They're gonna be calling you guys. CEO's gonna call you. She's gonna need a lot of advice.
- [90:49]
Danny Austin
Can I just say something, though?
- [90:50]
Laura Beverlyn
Yes.
- [90:50]
Danny Austin
Sometimes I feel like if people were really. It's really smart, they would do these things on purpose. Because all I want to do now is go to a Cracker Barrel.
- [90:59]
Laura Beverlyn
It gets. And everyone talking, and I want to.
- [91:01]
Danny Austin
Buy a T shirt with the. Oh. Like. And I want to be a patriot, and I want to stick up for the old Cracker Barrel, you know, And I want the T shirt and the boxers, and I want all of the merch, and I want to go and order some chicken and dumplings.
- [91:13]
Laura Beverlyn
So this is all part of their market.
- [91:17]
Jordan Phillips
Now that I know how boards work and, like, these private equity companies work, I am telling you right now, there is no way that that is what happened, because they would never in a million years take a risk this big.
- [91:29]
Danny Austin
But it's the smartest thing probably ever. Like, now it's probably for sure.
- [91:32]
Jordan Phillips
For sure.
- [91:33]
Danny Austin
Like, I want some memorabilia.
- [91:34]
Marky Beverlyn
So you're saying buy the dip?
- [91:36]
Danny Austin
Yeah, yeah. Buy the dip.
- [91:38]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah.
- [91:39]
Jordan Phillips
There's no way they were strategic enough to be like, we're gonna. We're gonna tank the stock price. 20 bucks.
- [91:43]
Laura Beverlyn
Bucks.
- [91:43]
Jordan Phillips
And then it's gonna reignite our base.
- [91:45]
Danny Austin
Yes.
- [91:46]
Jordan Phillips
And then we're gonna ride into the future.
- [91:47]
Marky Beverlyn
I think we have to put a. Like, a hashtag like, or, like, a little thing on there. Like, this is not investing advice. We don't really mean.
- [91:55]
Danny Austin
Disclaimer that. This is not a financial podcast.
- [91:58]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah. Just kidding.
- [91:58]
Danny Austin
Don't listen to anything I do.
- [92:00]
Jordan Phillips
That was fun, guys. I had a great time.
- [92:02]
Danny Austin
Yeah. This was so good. Do y' all have any, like, announcements you want to share with people or.
- [92:06]
Laura Beverlyn
We have been working on something for a while.
- [92:09]
Danny Austin
And when. When can we, like, expect a. I don't know. Just like. I don't know.
- [92:16]
Laura Beverlyn
Very soon.
- [92:16]
Danny Austin
Very, very soon.
- [92:17]
Laura Beverlyn
We'll be sharing more about that.
- [92:19]
Danny Austin
And it's giving. It's giving 20, 25 vibes, but I don't know.
- [92:22]
Laura Beverlyn
Yeah, it's very personal. It's very, very new. Laura, I will say. And, yeah, it's.
- [92:29]
Danny Austin
Oh, my God.
- [92:30]
Jordan Phillips
She's like. It's a Gucci belt.
- [92:33]
Danny Austin
And I'm collabing with.
- [92:36]
Marky Beverlyn
Yeah, it's a belt buckle Gucci with a cow's head.
- [92:41]
Danny Austin
Perfect. Oh, my gosh. I love it. Well, thank you guys so much for coming on our podcast. We finally joined it.
- [92:45]
Marky Beverlyn
Thank you for having us.
- [92:46]
Danny Austin
So fun. Of course. All right, Bye, guys. Bye.
- [92:48]
Marky Beverlyn
Bye.
- [92:52]
Laura Beverlyn
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