He's Back: The Banter Resumes

Summary

De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan

Episode: He’s Back: The Banter Resumes
Release Date: October 30, 2025
Hosts: Dani & Jordan
Production: Dear Media

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Overview

This episode marks the anticipated return of Jordan to the podcast, reuniting the dynamic husband-wife duo. The conversation dives into real-life relationship banter, parenting insights, personal rituals, Halloween debates, and their ever-present influencer industry commentary—all colored by laughter, light-hearted ribbing, and moments of vulnerability.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Jordan’s Return & The Importance of Partnership (00:17–04:00)

• Dani enthusiastically welcomes Jordan back after a busy period away.
• Listeners expressed missing Jordan's presence; Jordan jokes about needing to be "wanted."
• The couple acknowledges their podcast works best as a duo, playing off each other's energy.
• Quote:
  • "Sometimes I just want to be wanted. Sometimes I just need to go away and then let the people decide." — Jordan (00:41)

2. Navigating Birthday Expectations & Family Dynamics (04:00–13:30)

• Jordan discusses the annual stress of Dani’s and their daughter Stella’s back-to-back birthdays.
• Dani unpacks her lifelong “birthday blues,” rooted in childhood memories of lonely birthdays due to her parents’ work schedule.
• The elaborate planning for Stella’s princess-themed birthday: balloons, gifts, and extended celebrations.
• Dani’s own birthday wish: a candid family photo shoot, preferring simple, meaningful moments over luxury gifts.
• Memorable Quote:
  • "Can I tell you something? The amount of money that I would be willing to spend to avoid the birthday blues and feeling like a failure on your birthday is insurmountable." — Jordan (07:47)
• The episode humorously explores the “hidden meanings” behind Dani’s gift wishes and Jordan’s anxiety about reading her signals.

3. Emotional Complexity, Hormones, and the Dynamics of Marriage (13:30–17:00)

• The couple reflects on miscommunications, emotional nuances, and the ongoing challenge of fully understanding each other.
• Jordan references social media content describing men as “the wall” and women as “the wave,” sparking a deeper discussion about stability in marriage.
• Dani and Jordan agree marriage is about continual discovery and not always full understanding.
• Quote:
  • "You think that’s what you want—for me to jump right in. But I think what you really want is the safety of the wall." — Jordan (22:12)

4. Reflections on Solo Podcasting & Content Creation (23:00–28:00)

• Dani details the struggles and freedom of running the podcast solo, veering into deep dives about everything from cryptocurrency (Doge) to government systems, reflecting her wide-ranging interests.
• Jordan playfully teases Dani for forgetting details post-recording, but celebrates her intellectual curiosity.
• Dani admits feeling unsure about what listeners want in Jordan’s absence, ultimately realizing their best dynamic is together.

5. Pop Culture Review: “House of Dynamite” (28:00–34:30)

• Both hosts share their reactions to the new Netflix hit “House of Dynamite”—a high-tension, low-budget political thriller they recommend.
• Discussion delves into movie industry trends, “TikTokification” of content, and the formulaic methods streaming services use to capture attention.
• They wonder what films or series define current generations.

6. Style Makeover: Luxury Shopping & The Art of the Dupe (41:27–53:37)

• Dani takes Jordan for a luxury wardrobe upgrade at Loro Piana, only for him to balk at $10K jackets.
• The hosts candidly discuss the psychological effects of luxury retail experiences and the joys of bargain hunting.
• Dani’s childhood of getting “dupes” from her mother is humorously paralleled with her current efforts to buy “look for less” items for Jordan.
• Quote:
  • "I walked in there feeling good, and then I walked out feeling homeless. I was like, I… It’s so weird." — Jordan (45:18)
• Further banter about who really wants the luxury item, and the meaning of thoughtful gift-giving in relationships.

7. Halloween: To Trick-or-Treat or Not? (56:05–67:00)

• The couple openly debates Halloween traditions. Dani explores the history (both Celtic and Christian), influence of modern culture, and parental fears.
• Discussion shifts to the impact of strict parenting—whether forbidding Halloween or Taylor Swift—on children's independence and rebellion.
• Dani advocates for informed flexibility and teaching kids to make their own healthy choices, not simply following fear-based restrictions.
• Quote:
  • "I just feel like you have to be very careful with how strict you are with your kids… that’s when you get crazy kids that want to go party, go crazy, because they feel like they were so restricted." — Dani (63:08)

8. Parenting Philosophy, Optimism, and Letting Kids Learn (67:03–73:46)

• Dani shares her fundamental optimism, rooted in faith and a determination to raise kids who experience both the good and the “messy” in life.
• She talks about the importance of letting kids have real experiences—even mistakes—so they can form their own convictions.
• Jordan, by contrast, admits to being risk-averse and inclined to say no; Dani’s optimism challenges and balances his fears.
• Quote:
  • "Where did you get your optimism? ... I don’t think a lot of people are optimistic like you." — Jordan (69:29)
• The couple agree on aiming to teach resilience, faith, and independent thinking, rather than rigidly controlling outcomes.

9. Marriage Check-In & Closing Banter (73:58–END)

• The hosts check in on their marriage, with an honest and humorous exchange about feeling appreciated and working through miscommunications.
• Though their planned script is largely ignored, the free-flowing conversation underlines the couple’s realness and on-mic chemistry.

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Notable Quotes

• On marriage:
  "It just keeps me chasing. I'm like, I don’t understand you... and then I'm like, oh, I kind of understand you. And then we get to this other layer. And I'm like, I don't understand." — Jordan (13:05)

• On parenting and sheltering kids:
  "I just have always had this belief with my children... You are going to be different. It's because you're a Christian. Sorry, it's going to happen… But I can't control so much of that." — Dani (67:27–68:14)

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Key Segments by Timestamp

• 00:17–01:05 — Jordan’s return, podcast dynamic
• 01:05–04:00 — The birthday back-to-back blues
• 04:00–07:47 — Stella’s princess party vs. Dani’s meaningful birthday
• 13:30–17:00 — “The Wall and the Wave” analogy
• 23:00–28:00 — Content creation challenges, solo podcasts
• 28:00–34:30 — “House of Dynamite” review, Netflix/streaming trends
• 41:27–49:09 — Loro Piana adventure, luxury vs. practical spending
• 49:10–53:37 — Dani’s “dupes” upbringing, generational parallels in gifting
• 56:05–66:17 — Halloween traditions, fear-based parenting, modern family struggles
• 67:03–73:58 — Optimism, faith, letting go of control in parenting
• 73:58–End — Appreciation, marriage reflections, closing

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Takeaway

“He’s Back: The Banter Resumes” feels like an intimate, unscripted dinner conversation between old friends. Dani and Jordan bring warmth, quick wit, and candor—delving into relatable married life quirks, the art of thoughtful giving, evolving parenting strategies, and the challenge (and reward) of holding optimism in a chaotic world.
A must-listen for anyone craving authenticity, gentle humor, and real-life perspectives from a pair still figuring it all out—together.

Transcript

[A]

Foreign.

[B]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

[A]

Hello, and welcome back to your favorite podcast, D Influence.

[B]

Just kidding.

[A]

That was good. He's back. I saw all your dms. I know. Everybody's like, please, please, Jordan, please bring it back. Like. Like, y' all liked one or two solo episodes for me, but I was like, please. I miss Jordan. People really miss you. How does that feel?

[B]

Yeah, sometimes I didn't see any of that, but I do. I do appreciate it.

[A]

Oh, you didn't see any of it. Oh, well, it's like my entire DMs.

[B]

Sometimes I just want to be wanted. Sometimes I just. I. I just need to go away and then let the people decide.

[A]

No, but you've been really busy.

[B]

Yeah, I've been busy.

[A]

Jordan's been busy. But you're back.

[B]

I'm back.

[A]

Well, how are you?

[B]

I'm good. I'm really good. How are you?

[A]

I have a little cold.

[B]

I have a. I had a hard week. Every year there's a hard week of my life, and it is the two females, the most important females in my life, my daughter and my wife. Their birthdays are back to back.

[A]

And it's like, what did you do to deserve that?

[B]

No, it's hard.

[A]

I know.

[B]

I really mentally prepare for it. I feel anxious about it probably a week before. And the reason for it, Stella's a little bit easier because.

[A]

Wait, what?

[B]

She's easier because Stella is in that phase where she believes she's a princess. And she is a princess.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So she'll be very vocal about what she deserves and what she wants. And. And you have had this habit on your birthdays the past couple years of being like, I don't want anything. I don't want anything. Like, I don't really wanna, like, see anyone. Please don't do that. And then I just know, like, I have to, in that moment, say, do I, like, listen to her and respect her wants, or do I go and I try and do something for her? Because what she's saying underneath what she's saying is like, I want you to plan it. And so this one was tricky.

[A]

Typically, I'm not trying to be mischievous.

[B]

No, you don't know. You just don't know what you want.

[A]

Like, I don't want anything, and I don't want to see people.

[B]

And you want that until usually about 4 or 5pm on the day of your birthday. And then around 4 or 5, your face goes from happiness to sadness.

[A]

Well, I. I've just so. Okay, sorry, I'll let you finish I was going to interrupt.

[B]

Yeah. And when it goes to sadness, then it's like, okay. And it's not like you're mad at me. It's like just the birthday blues.

[A]

So I have an extreme case of the birthday blues because every year on my birthday, since I was a little girl, because I was born during market, like, market week. So market week for my parents is like the craziest week of the year. There's like two or three of them, and they go to market at like 7am and they're gone till like 7 8pm So I never saw anyone on my birthday. So every day I'd come home or I'd wake up on my birthday and my parents would be gone. Or, you know, like, the day would just be another day. And I was always sad because I always felt like all these other kids had like, these crazy cool birthdays. And then I was just always, like, I would literally come home from school and just like, kind of sit there. Especially when my birthday was on a weekday. And I always had birthday parties and stuff, but my actual birthday, I just was alone every single year.

[B]

Yeah. No, I.

[A]

So it's like I just feel sad.

[B]

Abandonment.

[A]

Yeah. But like, I'm not trying to. Small as violin. Like, I'm fine, obviously, but like.

[B]

But it was weird because. So this. This birthday, you know, Stella had a big day, you know, because she's. She's Stella. Right.

[A]

Well, also, like, you have to give me some credit. I planned a very big day for her.

[B]

You did. You planned a great. Well, so what. What do we do? Day of Sellers.

[A]

So I got her those balloons.

[B]

It's been kind of like Stella's birthday week. That's the problem. Like, she literally. So it's Sunday. Well, it's Sunday. Her birthday was on Wednesday. Wednesday. She had a party on Saturday. She comes in on Sunday still wearing a shirt that says the birthday girl.

[A]

And, like, she can't, like, understand that it's not her birthday anymore. Like, on Sunday, she's still wearing that. And then like, she wants to wear it to school today. And it's like, Monday. I'm like, no, honey, your birthday was last week. And so now Stratton' confused because he's like, well, if it's her birthday every day, like, why isn't it my birthday every day? I don't get this.

[B]

What did we do on her birthday? What did you.

[A]

So her birthday, I planned 5:30. They came and installed the five balloons. I wanted it to be a surprise. She comes in my bed at, like, probably 5:45, 6:00am she's like, mommy, there's a man outside putting up five balloons. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is the one surprise that I really wanted. And Coco had given her like a watch with a screen on it the day before her birthday. So on Tuesday. And so she, ever since she got this little, it's like a play kids watch, but it actually has like a screen on it, which we were not aware of until she got it. And so she has been waking up every single morning at like 5am to play with her watch because she's so excited about that. So. So anyway, that's why she was up. And then she comes in our room. Then we made breakfast and everything for her. We gave. We surprised her with her new pink car because that's all she wanted was a princess car car, right? And then we took her lunch at school, dressed her up like a mermaid. Remember I did her hair with the clippings and everything. Took her chick fil a to all of her like classmates. And we made goodie bags for all of the kids in her. In her gray or in her class. And then picked her up, took her to ice cream. So we're like, where do you want to go to ice cream? She's like, not this place, like this other place. So we drove like an extra 20 minutes to go to like the special ice cream place. And we got there and she's like, wait, no, this isn't the one. I like the one next to our house. So. So we had to drive all the way back to the ice cream place next to our house. We spent like an hour trying to get ice cream, got ice cream, went home, and then we were going to go to dinner that night. But it got like, we were like all so beat. So that was just her birthday.

[B]

And so for your birthday. Yes, I got you flowers.

[A]

The only thing is, you have to understand, I'm also like, been under the weather. Like you can probably even hear the congestion now. So. But on my birthday, all I wanted was a picture of my kids all smiling. Yeah. And I got it that morning.

[B]

You got a whole photo shoot.

[A]

Yeah. So I booked a photo shoot on my birthday of my three children. And that's all I wanted. And it's a, it's the best day to do it is on your birthday because like, not that they really care that it was my birthday, but I was like, smile, it's my birthday now. That's what I want for my birthday, is for you to smile. And then they're Forced to.

[B]

Yeah. So about a week prior to Danny's birthday, I asked her what she wanted and there was. What was that bag we saw?

[A]

Oh, the row bag. But it's suede and you can only wear it like during fall, winter. And it's so cute. But I was just like, if I'm gonna spend that much, it's an expensive bag. I would like it to be a year round bag.

[B]

Yeah, but you were telling me all about it. It's like not. It's like, it's not a luxury. Subtle luxury. So anyway, I was like, hey, I'll get you that. And then you were like, no, I don't want that.

[A]

I was like, please do not give me that.

[B]

And it was a type of please that was like, like really, like, firm. It was like, not. I'm saying please. And I actually want you to do it. It was like firm. So I didn't do that. So I got you flowers and I got you a card.

[A]

But sorry, just. Right. The only reason I told you about the row bag is because I wanted you to see how silly it was that that bag was that expensive. And then you're like, I'll get it for you. And I was like, no. Like, the point is, is that it's shocking to me that that bag is that.

[B]

Can I tell you something? The amount of money that I would be willing to spend to avoid the birthday blues and feeling like a failure on your birthday is insurmountable. Like, I don't even know how much it was. I wouldn't even care. I'd have been like, whatever it takes to not feel.

[A]

No, that end of the day would have made me feel icky because I was like, that's just so crazy.

[B]

Well, let me finish my story, because here's what's. I said is that. So we start the day off. Flowers, card. Great.

[A]

Is beautiful.

[B]

Yeah. We're going. We're going. Well, simple. Then we do the photo shoot. And I go to the photo shoot. I make sure I go to the photo shoot. So I'm like, okay. Like, I got to be quick. Quality time present. So we're trucking there. And then all Danny wanted, after several interrogations, was just a cozy night in with her girlfriends. So I made a flyer on canva, circulated it a week before. And you wanted Pizza Hut.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So then I do that. Okay. And then around 3 o', clock, and I believe you, you were sick.

[A]

I was not feeling good.

[B]

Around 3 o', clock, Danny's like, you know what? I don't think I want to have my friends over tonight. And I go, hey, let's just give it an hour. Like, you always feel better.

[A]

I really was feeling achy.

[B]

I know, but there was a side of it, maybe 10%, 20%, that felt more comfort in. My parents are at market.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. No. I'm so.

[B]

I just need to be alone on my birthday.

[A]

Shut up. No, no, that's still not what it is.

[B]

So then.

[A]

No, because I always have my girlfriends over, like, for my birthday. We always do pizza night for. That's kind of like, my thing is we do sweats and, like, pizza on my birthday.

[B]

Okay. But here's the thing that haunts me to this day. I'm fine with you canceling the girls night. What haunts me is that the next day you go to Highland Park Village, and I'm like, is she going to buy a bag for herself?

[A]

I did put myself on a wait list.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I offered to get you a bag. So do you understand how set up for failure I feel? No, because I was so proactive in being like, okay, this, this, and this. And then it was like, you know, in your mind, what I was scared. You were telling yourself is you were like, no, it. Like you didn't even get me anything.

[A]

Okay, wait. Wait a second. Let's just back up here for a second. Because I did go to Holland Park Village. I put my name on a. On a. On a list, which doesn't mean I'm never gonna. I'm even gonna get it. But what did I buy that day?

[B]

Yeah, you bought something for me, which was really confusing. Then I was like, my mind is effed right now because I was like, I have no idea what's going on. I was like, she had the birthday blues, and then she was making up for the birthday blues because she feels like her needs weren't met, and then she ends up getting me something. So am I good or am I bad?

[A]

I really just don't think it's, like, that deep.

[B]

Well, yeah, no, probably not, but, yeah, I mean, I think that we agreed to this probably on Sunday after. After this whole saga.

[A]

The point of the.

[B]

We agreed on Sunday that you. You were having some hormones.

[A]

No, we didn't agree to that. You accused me of having hormones.

[B]

We did.

[A]

I never said. Yeah, you're right. I'm being hormonal.

[B]

No, but we were watching a show.

[A]

Jordan, stop. Because I was like, it's going to piss me off the more that you accuse me of, like, hormonal acting.

[B]

You didn't, you didn't. You didn't acknowledge the hormones. But what you did say is we were watching this show where a woman was in a high powered position, and Danny said women shouldn't carry high powered positions because we're really unstable. And that to me was like you acknowledging you are getting me so canceled. You were acknowledging that, yes, I have been quite hormonal lately.

[A]

Well, no, some women can handle their emotions better than me, so maybe some women should be in high powered positions. You know, what I'm just saying is I shouldn't be in one. Okay? Because you're just saying, don't vote for me for precedent. Because you'll have three weeks of the month. That'll be great. And then one will be horrible.

[B]

Yeah. So I'll just. But we survived. So My birthday is January 3rd, and I'm going to give. I'm going to give her hell.

[A]

Jordan, do you know I've already been shopping for your birthday for like two weeks.

[B]

Well, good luck, because whatever you get me, I'm going to go shopping for it myself the next day.

[A]

Okay. To me, it's not that deep. Jordan always feels like there's a thing beneath the thing beneath the thing. And sometimes I'm just like, no, it's just like, I didn't want to do anything on my birthday and now I feel better on Friday, so I'm gonna go, like, look at nice things.

[B]

No, I honestly think that that's, like. It's actually been inner Jordan. There's been a lot going on in here, like, learning about you and I.

[A]

I realized we've been together for 10 years.

[B]

I had this thought and I was.

[A]

Like, I don't even know her anymore.

[B]

I was like, I feel like I understand her less before the time goes on. And I really had that epiphany. And I was like, how does that make you feel? No, I think that I actually feel peace about it because I think I just realized that women are the most complex creatures. And I don't think that we're designed to understand because if we aliens, if we were given the knowledge, like if. If I bit the apple and I was given the knowledge of how you work. I don't know, it's like, that's what the whole lifetime of marriage is for.

[A]

Like, what would you be doing?

[B]

It just keeps. It just keeps me chasing. I'm like, I don't understand you. And then we fight about. And then I'm like, oh, I kind of understand you. And then we get to this Other layer. And I'm like, I don't understand. And it's. Because it just. It. Oh. It's like I. I saw. I feel like the algorithm. My Instagram algorithm. Like, really? Or your Instagram algorithm knows that I'm on your Instagram because that serves me content.

[A]

And can you please get off of my Instagram? By the way, just so you know, Jordan doesn't have an Instagram. He has mine. So if you're ever getting story replies, story views, it's Jordan.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

Which is, like, also sometimes kind of, like, hard, because people probably see that I'm watching their stories, and then in person they think I know what's going on in their life and. But you're really the one watching it.

[B]

Yeah, no, for sure. But anyway, there was this Australian guy, and he was like, I'm not going to try and emulate his accent, but he was like. He was like. The wife is like. He's like, you're the sea wall and she's the wave splashing against you. And I was like, oh, my gosh. I was like, I saved it. I actually think I could play it.

[A]

Play it.

[B]

Let me see.

[A]

I don't know. I don't. I don't think I've seen this.

[B]

It's so. It's so deep, so real. And I was like, gosh, thank you, Mark Zuckerberg, for this. It's like, I really need to hear this right now. Oh, this is another one that I got. Intended to be indisciplined and daily routine. The woman is the feminine.

[A]

And is that to do with our cycles 100.

[B]

Oh, sorry, I saved this. Maybe I'll get in trouble for saving that one.

[A]

Our cycles.

[B]

That was me trying to understand.

[A]

I can't. Oh, my gosh. I would love to see your chat GPT.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

Like, oh, my God. You totally use chat as, like, a little therapist every day. How to deal with me.

[B]

Well, you've been pregnant for, like, six years straight, so I feel like, look.

[A]

At us both on our new phones.

[B]

I know.

[A]

We both have the iPhone 17. I got orange, and Jordan got navy.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

I'm just not used to seeing something like that in Jordan's hands because he's always had this tiny little iPhone.

[B]

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[C]

Let me see if it comes up.

[B]

It'll be.

[A]

Oh, did you read it?

[B]

Well, I found the guy. Hold on.

[C]

Beach water.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Every day different Some days calm and clear. Some days the daughter.

[A]

Daughter.

[B]

This is the daughter.

[C]

The only constant for a girl is change the tides pulling her in directions she never chose. Everyone judges the beach against the their expectations. Too rough, too calm, too cold. Not what they wanted today. Everyone needs something from the water. Comfort, beauty, peace. But no one asks what the beach needs.

[A]

What is the beach?

[C]

Her mother.

[B]

The mother that was stellar.

[C]

She knows those shallow tides because she lived them.

[B]

But now it's like a mother post menopause.

[C]

Our daughter can't even see yet. Storms that would terrify the beach. Still, she's expected to be beautiful, bountiful, providing everything without receiving. Sometimes they clash. Beach meeting ocean creates massive.

[B]

Like you and your mom, which I've also experienced.

[C]

Both changing, both under pressure, both exhausted from being everything to everyone. That's you and me.

[A]

Exhaustion.

[C]

I'm the harbor wall. I don't understand water. I'm stone. I can't feel the tides. I can't change with the currents.

[A]

I don't know what it's like to.

[C]

Be pulled by the moon. To change without choosing to be needed by everyone while drowning. But I don't need to understand. I need to be the one thing that doesn't change. The fixed point. They can crash.

[A]

Really beautiful.

[C]

The shelter that's always there, no matter how far they sail or how.

[B]

Okay, you get the gist. But anyway, that changed my life. I was like, this algorithm is dialed.

[A]

Well, good. I'm so happy. Thank you for being my wall.

[B]

Do you feel like I'm a wall? I feel like I've really tried to be better at being a wall because I used to be like, all right, the moon's pulling you. It'll pull me too.

[A]

You're like, I'm jumping right in the ocean. No, I feel that for sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel the. The rigidity of the wall, you know?

[B]

Yeah. Well, I think what you think you want is for me to jump right in. Yes. That's what you think that you want.

[A]

Dive right in.

[B]

And this has been the most interesting thing about our marriage, is that you think. Think that that's what you want. But I think what you really want is the safety of the wall.

[A]

I don't know. Walls sound kind of boring. Well, let me think about it. Let me ponder on that one for maybe, I don't know, a week or so.

[B]

Yeah, it'll take you a while.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, but we did have some. It was a. It was an exciting week. It was exhausting, really, on both of us. A lot of logistics going Into Stella's birthday.

[B]

Yeah. What's been going on on this podcast since I've been gone? Look.

[A]

Well, is that my hair?

[B]

Yeah. You've been sitting in my seat.

[A]

No, I actually haven't. Yeah. So it's been. It's been. You know, speaking of waves, we've had highs and lows.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I would say by last week's episode was probably one of my lows. I talked about Doge for, like, about 45 minutes, and, you know, I go pretty deep.

[B]

Just you? Yeah, solo.

[A]

I'm talking about the government and IRS and how poorly they run. And, I mean, that's the one thing is, I don't really know how that fits into D Influence. But the thing is, is, like, when I'm. When I have to talk for 60 minutes on my own, like, I just. There's like, 30 minutes. I'm like, okay, I'll talk about things that are relevant, and then 30 minutes where I'm like, okay, well, I'm just gonna talk about what I find interesting this week. And, you know, every week, I do, like, the most random deep dive. Like, they didn't ever get to experience my deep dive on octopuses, like, but I went pretty deep for octopi. And just so you know, it actually is octopuses. It's not octopi, but. I know. That sounds better. Yeah. So there's just. It's been a little all over the place.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We sure did miss you. Well, we really did.

[B]

Yeah. It was kind of. It's funny because we started strong without you. Oh, no, I. I knew it was exactly what was going to happen.

[A]

I was like. I was like, I don't need no man.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

You know, I was like, I got this.

[B]

Well, so.

[A]

And I really did it. And you know what? I really don't sometimes. Okay. So I'm fine, but it's better this way. But I would need you. But this is just better.

[B]

Why can't you just admit?

[A]

I just am saying. Because I can do it if I had to.

[B]

Yeah. Every four or so months, Danny's got to prove to herself and me that she don't need me or any man.

[A]

No, I don't do it like that. That.

[B]

No.

[A]

You know, in your face.

[B]

Okay. Anyway, what happened was I said, hey, I need to take a break from the podcast. You should take a break with me. And Danny said, all my girls down. I don't need no man. And then I was like, okay. And what I knew was gonna happen is imagine our podcast studio as a metaphorical stage. I knew that Danny was gonna march right onto the center of that stage, and the lights were gonna shine on her, and she was gonna say, let me. Let me talk about Charlie Kirk. Let me talk about this. And then I just knew after, like, three or four weeks, it was gonna start. Okay, I'm running out of space.

[A]

That's not true. I think we did two months. Yeah, about two months. Like, that's pretty freaking good.

[B]

Okay, two months. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, we did about eight episodes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so then. And then it was.

[A]

I mean, that's pretty impressive for someone that didn't go into launching the podcast, like, doing it solo. Like, I didn't ever. Like, that's not my gift. My gift is being a co host.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know?

[B]

No, for sure. Well, your gift is being the main character with a co host.

[A]

No, you're the main character.

[B]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

Okay, whatever.

[B]

So you know what I mean?

[A]

But anyway, 50 with the podcast.

[B]

So. So how did it go? I mean, what's been.

[A]

I mean, I'm just telling you. I don't really know.

[B]

What's the most controversial thing you talked about?

[A]

Oh, I mean, I did an invitation for people to accept Jesus into their hearts. I prayed about that. So I might be seeing new people in heaven because of me. So that's pretty cool. I'm just kidding.

[B]

That's so fun, though. They got to, like, get, you know, because, like, every night, pillow talk, I get Danny in the raw. Like, she just whispers in my ear about Doge and stuff. And then you guys got that full experience.

[A]

Yeah, I went crazy on Doge. What other random topics that I have.

[B]

Charlie Kirk was the first one. I think that was a big one.

[A]

That was a deep dive. I've had other deep dive.

[B]

You did your friendships. You had a whole episode about that deep dive.

[A]

But what was, like, another random deep dive?

[B]

I try to remember. You don't remember what you said?

[A]

You blacked out, Babe, I literally don't know. And that's the thing about me, is I'll study for, like, hours for a podcast. You know, like, when I do these podcasts by myself, I prepare for, like, two hours.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then, you know, babe, I don't remember anything. I don't remember anything I said. I don't even really remember what Doge is.

[B]

But, you know, what you performed.

[A]

I mean, I gave people what they wanted. My thing is, is sometimes it got so hard, I, I. I didn't know what people wanted anymore because I get confused of, like. Because sometimes it's interesting to me. But it's not interesting to other people. Yeah, I do feel like I talked about the government a lot.

[B]

Well, I think that subconsciously that was, like. Because, like, that's my thing. And so I think it was, like, subconsciously, like, you know what? I don't need no man. I don't need George. I'm gonna talk about the government.

[A]

No, I'm gonna be honest with you. It was things that I found interesting.

[B]

No, you actually have a brilliant mind. You really do.

[A]

God, love him.

[B]

No, I'm actually serious.

[A]

I love him.

[B]

I'm serious. You really. You. You go deep on several things. The only problem is you forget it.

[A]

I know, but I. I do go deep on pretty much everything. Oh, we should talk about the movie we watched last night.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

What was it called?

[A]

House of Dynamite.

[B]

It's great.

[A]

Oh, it's so good. It's so good. I think everybody should watch it. It's on Netflix. I think it's, like, number two, I think. No, it's. I think it's number one on, like, the movie section right now. And the thing is about me, when I vote for presidents, for some reason, ever since I've been a little girl, I have pictured like. Like, whoever I'm voting for for president is, like, in a war room, sending missiles and going to war. Like, I've always pictured that version of a president. And then I've never really seen it ever since that, you know. You know, like in Austin Powers, when he's, like, sitting in a chair and he's like. And he's, like, pushing the button. Like, I always.

[B]

Dr.

[A]

Evil. Dr. Evil. Yeah. You know, I just always thought of a president, you know, kind of like that. You know, like, does he push the button or not? And so I've always voted for people that I'm like, yes, of course. Like, social issues are matter and all these things, but I'm always like, will he be able to protect us in war? And this movie actually, like, set up that scene for me.

[B]

Yeah. But it also showed that, like, it's not really the. The president makes the final decision, but it's like the bureaucracy of the people around him pushing for a different dude.

[A]

But, like, you have to admit, like, he made the final decision. That's so crazy to me.

[B]

Honestly, I don't want to ruin the ending, but.

[A]

Wait, no, don't. Well, you can't really ruin the ending.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, like, you don't.

[A]

But it doesn't matter. Don't talk about that. Don't ruin it for people, okay? They need to watch it.

[B]

It's a. It's a great thing to watch. Like, it. It's highly engaging, I would say the ending.

[A]

I know, but you know, babe, it really makes you ponder, you know, maybe.

[B]

That was the point.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You want to know what I think, though? I think that they just didn't have the budget to like, do freaking good ending.

[A]

No, I. Because the only thing is, so the whole. Will you tell them what the movie's about?

[B]

The movie's about a. A missile coming to hit the continental US that they don't know where it came from. And it's basically like unfolding the crisis of the 30 minutes that they become aware of the missile minutes. I think 18 minutes that they become aware of the missile hitting us. And it plays it out from different perspectives of how they handled it in real time.

[A]

And you know what? I have a. I was just thinking it'd be cool if in the movie, when they showed, it was actually 18 minutes for each perspective.

[B]

Oh, was it?

[A]

I don't know. But that would be cool if they did that.

[B]

Oh, that would be cool.

[A]

Maybe they did do that.

[B]

But what's happening? Not to be cynical, but, like, what's happening is like, there's so much content now, and you can just tell that Netflix is really dialing in this model of let's get like one name actor. Let's not have any crazy CGI or explosions or action scenes, and let's just do like high character driven drama that is fast cut like a TikTok, and it captures you in the first, like, three minutes that you're watching it. So it's kind of like the TikTok ification of content. And I guarantee you that that didn't cost them that much to make the movie.

[A]

No. Because they never actually even so, like, no, I better not say. But like. Okay, so this is a very similar type of movie as the Lost School bus with Matthew McConaughey.

[B]

Yeah. See, I. Great marketing. I'm like, I want to watch that. That's amazing.

[A]

Obviously.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You could tell it was probably pretty low budget and. But it was so enticing and so engaging because it leaves you on this, like, huge cliffhanger at the very beginning.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's super, like, fast paced.

[B]

It's very smart.

[A]

Yes, it's smart. They know how to make content.

[B]

Well, they have a lot of data. Like, I think that Netflix invested, like, billions of dollars in their, like, data analytics of, like, they test the thumbnails. They test. Like, when do people. It's like YouTubers like, they test. When do people drop off? So they know they have this model now that like the studio system doesn't have that is like, we don't really need seven name actors. We can get one and just write the script in this way and you will watch it throughout the whole thing. But then what happens is, like, all of these movies that I watch, I don't like, they don't. They don't leave a lasting impression. So I end up going and watching like all of the studio movies that, like, are so good.

[A]

Like, what's the one we saw with Leonardo DiCaprio? That was a huge bust. That was pretty good.

[B]

Yo's. What's it called?

[A]

Leonardo Dickrapy. The One Battle after Another. Yeah, that was like a two and a half hour movie.

[B]

Yeah. So am I wrong about that? Yeah. 4 billion. So.

[A]

So like 4 billion or 40 billion?

[B]

4 billion. So I was. Because they have like 250 million subscribers at like 20 bucks a piece. That's like $4.7 billion that they have. And so.

[A]

See that mental math in your head?

[B]

No, I have a calculator.

[A]

Okay. Remember when our teachers taught us that we'd never have a. Yeah, you're never gonna have a calculator in your pocket.

[B]

So probably what's. I don't know this for sure, but what's happening in Hollywood is like, all these studios are like, wait, Netflix is the only one who knows how to make content that matters. And then Netflix is like, we don't really need you studios. And all of that's kind of sad. It's. It really.

[A]

That's why we're being raised with just crap movies. But I really did like that movie. Maybe I actually do like this model.

[B]

Well, I think it's like. It's a numbers game. You just kind of.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know. To me, that movie lasts, like, left a laugh, a lasting impact on me.

[B]

Well, there's going to be certain ones that like. Like, what is Gen Z's version of Friends?

[A]

Or the. The Titanic. Sorry.

[B]

Or the. Yeah, or the Titanic. What's their version of that?

[A]

Oh, probably like Barbie. I don't know.

[B]

Or Summer I Turn Pretty.

[A]

Or Oppenheimer. No, not Summer I Turn Pretty. There's still like, pretty good movies being made out there sometimes.

[B]

Yeah. Anyway.

[A]

Yeah, well. Yeah, y' all should watch it. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. And then, man, I just. It was kind of funny to watch that after, like, just blasting the government with Doge. Then you watch that movie and you're like, wow, they actually are pretty competent. Insecurity. Yeah. So what else. What else is going on in life? Why are you laughing?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

What?

[B]

I don't know. I'm just thinking about when you were squirming in your seat by yourself without me here, just being like, oh, my gosh, I just talked about Doge for 20 minutes.

[A]

First of all, I only squirmed for probably the last two episodes. The other episodes, you can ask Nate. I actually talked way too much. I. I like, would have, I believe, eight segments and then I would only get to three.

[B]

No. Yeah, all of them were over an hour too. I don't even think I can last.

[A]

We're struggling at 31 minutes.

[B]

We're struggling.

[A]

No, that was the most surprising thing about doing solo episodes is when I was prepared, I would so over prepare that I would have, like, I would run out of time.

[B]

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[A]

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[D]

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[A]

Literally always.

[D]

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[A]

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[D]

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[A]

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[D]

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[A]

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[D]

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[A]

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[D]

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[A]

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[A]

Oh, let's talk about how I took you to Laura Piana.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I want to talk about how amazing I have been. I feel like. Okay. So when I first started my YouTube channel, or just, like, growing up, my thing was with my mom. We would look at, like, Vogue magazine or these magazines, because that's how we got content back then. And I would rip out, like, an ad from Ralph Lauren, and I would take it to TJ Maxx and try to find the exact look. Well, Jordan has been dressing, like, a certain way for quite some time. You know, like, the Nikes with the skinny jeans with the Abercrombie tees. Oh, they know it's a great look. I'm fine with it. But, you know, it is like. It's like, you know, everybody kind of evolves. Like, that was, like, the end of an era. And so I've been trying to get Jordan to dress a little bit, just more mature, you know, and. But it's been a battle because he's very stubborn in his skinny jeans. He likes things his way. So I knew I was gonna have to take this into my own hands, you know? And so I took him to probably the most expensive store I could find in Dallas. Like, I was just like, I just want to go put him in something so grand so that he can see my vision. So I did. I took him there, and I had him put on this ridiculous outfit, and he was like, dang, this is good. Like, I get it. Like, admit it. You put it on, you feel pretty. Pretty swell.

[B]

Yeah, I was. Yeah, of course.

[A]

What? Say what you really want to say, please.

[B]

I just. When I said, oh, my gosh, I feel like a million bucks. Are you talking about when I said.

[A]

You were weighing a million bucks? Probably.

[B]

I know, but I. You know, you put me with that man who was the stylist, and there was. There was a lot of pressure in the room to love everything I was doing.

[A]

It was just me and Manny.

[B]

I know, but he was forceful.

[A]

No, he wasn't.

[B]

He just. He. He wanted to be careful.

[A]

He probably is a D influence.

[B]

He wanted so bad for me to be excited about the clothes that I was wearing.

[A]

You were so excited.

[B]

I know.

[A]

So you're saying you didn't like it?

[B]

It. No, I did. I just. I didn't love it.

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah, I didn't Love it.

[A]

What did you not like?

[B]

I didn't like the shoes.

[A]

Really? The jacket.

[B]

The jacket was okay.

[A]

What?

[B]

But it wasn't like, like, you know how much it was.

[A]

Cashmere sweater. Forget about price.

[B]

Like, did you like it, though, the cashmere sweater? I could see your vision for that look.

[A]

Really? Out of everything. You liked the cashmere sweater?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. The pullover.

[A]

That's the one thing that look, I'm in it.

[B]

I'm in a pullover era.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

This is. This is Lulu.

[A]

Okay. So anyway, you.

[B]

I do catch your vision. I catch your vision.

[A]

Okay. You caught the vibe.

[B]

I caught the vibe.

[A]

Okay. So now I. I'm not kidding, y'. All. Like, one of the jackets he tried on was $10,000. It's, like, ridiculous. So.

[B]

Yeah, I felt gross. I was like, you're like. I was like, what?

[A]

And then I was like, you could pass it on to Stride.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like trying to be like, what the heck? It was also suede, so it would probably be like, so disgusting by the time that.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, it's just like, who does that? Like, who, who. What kind of man walks into that store and buys that?

[A]

A lot of men, babe. Just not men like us. I mean, obviously it's.

[B]

Right. And that's what I'm saying is I was like, I don't. I don't belong here. I was like, I felt really good. I was wearing like a suit supply jacket.

[A]

It's nice.

[B]

And a button up. Walking in there, and I leave, and.

[A]

You feel like, so.

[B]

And I, I, I genuinely. I had gotten compliments at church on this jacket, and I walked into. What's it called? Laura.

[A]

Laura Piana.

[B]

And I walked in there feeling good, and then I walked out feeling homeless. I was like, I. It's so weird. I was like, I felt so good, and now I feel like there's this whole other world that I'm like, I was better off in ignorance, Honestly.

[A]

This is so true. And so whatever. I put him in the look. I got the vibe that you had to admit they had cool stuff, though. Like.

[B]

Yeah, no, I mean, like, it was nice. Yeah, it's.

[A]

Of course.

[B]

We all want to be that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

I'm just trying to get you to admit that it was cool. It was a good vision. It was a good vibe. It was a good style.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

That's all I'm really saying. I don't want you to buy the 10,000. Thousand dollar jacket. So anyway, I, I got the vision for you, and now I have Been bargain hunting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I took pictures of what we liked at Laura Piana. No, I really, really hope Manny's not listening. And I have been getting the look for less, let me tell you. And I'm. This is not sponsored, but Keens, our sponsor, like, they have cashmere for, like, $59, $99. Don't. Do y' all want to know how much the cashmere sweaters at Laura Piano are?

[B]

How much were they?

[A]

$2,500.

[B]

Yeah. That's crazy business.

[A]

I was looking on kings and you could get the same similar look for 59, 79, $100. So I put in a big order for you, and then I did. So I did that, and then I did. You know, suit supply actually had some really good supplies.

[B]

Good, good suit supply. Highly, highly endorsed.

[A]

No, they had highly great. They had great, like, kind of look.

[B]

Alikes and, like, not crazy exp.

[A]

No, no, no. Really good prices. I mean, I guess you live there and you're like a $5,000 jacket, and you see like a $300 jacket and you're like, wow, this is a bargain.

[B]

I just don't. I genuinely don't understand the psychology. Like, I want to see how this Kintz brand feels, and I. I want to know, okay, like, do I genuinely feel the quality is different? Because here is.

[A]

The thing is, like, Danny, handmade in, like, Italy. The Laura Piano ones. Yeah.

[B]

Like, here's the thing is that they're not manufactured. Right.

[A]

But.

[B]

But the problem is my lifestyle does not support having nice things like that. Like, I. Do you know how much crap I got for hiking in Travis Scott's?

[A]

No. It's disgusting.

[B]

It's disgusting. And I'm sorry, I'm a disgusting human being.

[A]

But, like, he doesn't understand the luxury also, because he didn't buy them. I bought them for him, y'. All. He plays, like, pickleball. And Travis Scott sneakers. Like, they're a really nice pair of sneaker. And it, like, kills me. It's like, guys, I just want to say it's like they're more durable than hiking and working out in, like, a Chanel flat. Like, you're just like, why are you doing that? Like, you have so many other shoes. And, like, it even looks silly. Like, why would you hike in the Chanel?

[B]

Yeah. And if anyone thinks I'm flexing, I'm not. I'm just stupid. Like, I just am straight. Like, have no idea. And here's the thing is that I was like, danny, if you get me this cashmere sweater, I am 100% going to put it in the dryer.

[A]

I know you'll ruin it. That's why I would never do that.

[B]

Yeah. No. And so I can't support that. But I also think if I wore the same jacket at suitsupply, I don't know if I would be able to tell the difference in quality.

[A]

Oh, I could definitely tell the difference. That low piano one, that. The way that it was made and had that built in vest in it. But that's okay. Like you don't need to know.

[B]

Yeah. I'm just a small little braid.

[A]

You just wear your little bonobos.

[B]

I don't like bonobos.

[A]

This. Well, I bought you a jacket from there.

[B]

Their pants fit weird.

[A]

Okay. I didn't buy you the pants, but they had a jacket that looks super similar to the Laura Piano one. Different color, but it had this like suede collar. It looked so cute. I bought that for you. I think that one was like 200.

[B]

Did you buy stuff from Susan? Like. Cuz I was going to go on Friday. I already booked it.

[A]

I did, but that's okay. I'll go with you.

[B]

Okay. That would be great.

[A]

Oh yeah. I got you a black belt. Black loafers.

[B]

We'll have a. Yeah, we'll have a. A good. Yeah, because they book you with a stylist. So we'll have like a mediator.

[A]

Oh, we'll have a mediator. So we don't fight. Like it was so great. Like, oh my God, I'm so excited.

[B]

Yeah, maybe we can.

[A]

You know why? It's because you're. You're my prized possession. So when. On my birthday, when I went to Highland Park Village, I bought things for you.

[B]

Okay. I love that. That's so sweet. I. You're the best.

[A]

Yeah, you're my gift.

[B]

You're the best. I didn't. Yeah, I love that. Well, I just. On your birthday I. I didn't feel like the gift.

[A]

Well, because on my birthday I was sick and so. Sorry. Not everything's about you.

[B]

How dare I?

[A]

You know, and my birthday. I can act however I want. It's my birthday.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. For sure. What's so funny? Can I just tell you a story?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

So, Danny, on her birthdays growing up or on Christmases.

[A]

Okay. What is. Okay, just go into it. I mean, I just feel like we're always going back to my childhood and you're the one that brings it up, not me. Okay, go.

[B]

Growing up on her birthday and Christmases.

[A]

How do you know this? You didn't even know Me?

[B]

Well, because it happened when we were dating. Engaged too.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Every Christmas, tornado. We love her. She would. Danny would be like, hey, I want a Marc Jacobs watch.

[A]

And all the Girls in like, 8th, 9th grade are like, getting like, Marc Jacobs watches.

[B]

And I promise I'm going to bring this full circle. So don't. Tornado is going to be fine. Every. Every birthday, Danny would be like, I want to Marc Jacobs watch. And Tornado would go to, like, Sam's club every. Every freaking time and get her a knockoff version of this thing that Danny wanted every time.

[A]

And I want, like, Nike sneakers. And she would go to, like, Walmart and get the ones that like, look like Nike sneakers, but, like, don't have the swish.

[B]

You know, for years, every Christmas, we'd be heading over to tornadoes, and I'd be like, it's going to go down. Danny asked for X. She got.

[A]

I always got the discounted dupe.

[B]

And so. So that was always like a story. And it was just a huge part of, like, Danny's growth. And I just find it, you know, I've. I've really. I've really had an appreciation for the mother daughter dynamic between you and your mom lately. And the. The argument I've been making to both of you guys is, you know what?

[A]

She didn't get me anything for my birthday. I'm gonna text her about it right now.

[B]

No, no, don't, don't, please. We're in a good spot.

[A]

No, I'm just gonna say. Did you get me?

[B]

Stop.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

God, please stop. I just brokered peace. Okay? So what's so funny is that Danny took me to a Laura Piano store to look at a $10,000 jacket, and.

[A]

Then she didn't know they were gonna.

[B]

Have it, and then she spent all day yesterday looking for the knockoff, and she is presenting it to me as a good gift that she is so excited about. And I am excited about it.

[A]

You know, I would have supported you if you wanted to buy the five thousand dollar jacket.

[B]

No, I. For sure. I believe your mother would have supported you too.

[A]

No, she wouldn't have. I wanted the real Marc Jacobs watch.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It was also probably 150. And then she goes to Sam's and buys one for 89, which is like so close to 150 or 120. Whatever.

[B]

Yeah. All I'm saying is that I think as time goes on, you've learned to gather a greater appreciation for your mother and her tendencies. And it's not a bad thing.

[A]

But this is so different, okay? Because you didn't want the jacket.

[B]

Totally. That's. You're right.

[A]

Like, if you came to me and you're like, I want that jacket, I would get you that jacket, but you didn't even want the jacket.

[B]

Yeah. So you're not gonna.

[A]

So I'm just buying you things to buy you things.

[B]

Totally. Yeah.

[A]

You know what? I'm not going to shop for you anymore. Okay. This is what's happening. Okay. This is what I get for trying. Okay.

[B]

I don't mind you trying. I actually appreciate the dupes. I actually appreciate.

[A]

They're not even.

[B]

I'm just calling out the similarity.

[A]

And it's a 200 jacket at Sue Supplies. Yeah, that's not even a dupe. If you want me to go to Chinatown, I'll get you a dupe.

[B]

It's so different. You're right. That was so dumb. Let's cut it out of the podcast, but also, don't. Just for the record.

[A]

Okay, you know what? I just am not feeling very appreciated, so you know what? I'm not gonna do this. Forget that date to suit supply. I'm gonna go do a podcast by myself.

[B]

Danny's like, you can do eight podcasts by yourself.

[A]

Yeah, why don't you do. Yeah, you can do the next eight by yourself. How easy it is for you.

[B]

Oh, you are so appreciated. I. I love you. I cherish you. No, I believe you. And I love you for it, and I. I recognize it, and I affirm that. Okay. Anyway, in a weird way, I think we're in the best place of our marriage right now. Do you feel like that?

[A]

I don't know. That one kind of hurt my feelings.

[B]

Oh, that one did. Okay, that was too far. So we were laughing, we were having fun.

[A]

No, I know, but I thought we.

[B]

Were just joking around.

[A]

I know, but I really have spent, like, hours shopping for. For you.

[B]

No, I know.

[A]

And I've been looking at nice things, too.

[B]

I know, babe. I believe you. I'm so excited for this.

[A]

I almost got you a thousand dollar jacket, but I knew you'd be mad at me.

[B]

No, I'm. I'm gonna go downstairs. When does it come in? Today? Tomorrow.

[A]

Well, the good news is you're gonna try on your Batman costume that I also got for you for Halloween.

[B]

And I'm gonna throw out the rotting pumpkins.

[A]

And you have to throw out the rotting pumpkins and the balloons from Stella's five that are all dying.

[B]

Okay, I'm gonna do all three of those things because you know why? I love you and I appreciate you okay?

[A]

I'm just gonna text Manny. He's my man.

[B]

It did seem like y' all had something special. I was curious about that.

[A]

We really hit it off.

[B]

I know he's a sweet man.

[A]

Like, oh, my God. He's like, Danny. I'm like, manny, we met like 24 hours before.

[B]

So perfect to work in a store like that.

[A]

He's just probably my new best friend. He's the only person that I would text and would just, like, like, 100% always agree with everything I said.

[B]

Yeah, no. I closed the door to the dressing room, and it wasn't soundproof. And he was like, you got him in here? And you're like, I got him in here. And I heard the whole conversation. I was like, I'm just gonna pretend.

[A]

Like I was like, danny, you did it. And I'm like, yeah.

[B]

He was like, let's dress him like a million bucks. Let's spend some money. And you're like, yeah, man, this is a good time.

[A]

I do want to ask you something. How. Because this has been a big topic with all my friends and just on the Internet and, you know, with everybody hating, like, I think I still get a real once a day sent by my mother about how demonic Taylor Swift is. How are you feeling about Halloween this year? A lot of my friends are. Are not letting their kids dress up and do trick or treat this year.

[B]

I say we skip it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What do you say?

[A]

Why?

[B]

I just. It's not. It's not the demon stuff. I just don't really like dressing up.

[A]

But how do you feel about just Halloween in general? We've never talked about this. Well.

[B]

How do you feel about it? We've had some. Some crazy run ins lately.

[A]

Yeah, we have. Well, it says. Okay, so it has Christian first of all. It has Celtic roots. Over 2,000 years ago, the Celt celebrated some soin on so it's called so in on October 31, making the end of harvest and start of winter, marking the end of harvest and start of winter. They believe the veil between the living and the dead was thinnest. So they lit bonfires and wore costumes to scare off spirit spirits. Then there's a Christian influence. In the seventh century, the Catholic Church established All Saints today, also called all hallows day, on November 1st, to honor all saints and martyrs. The evening before October 31st became known as All Hallows Eve, literally Eve of All Hallows. Over time, this name was shortened to Halloween. The church likely chose this date to absorb and replace the pagan soin festival, a common Strategy. In early Christian Europe, many sewing customs like bonfires and costumes were adapted into Christian practice, creating a blend of religious observance and folk tradition. Souling. Okay, let's see. Soul caves. So souling or soul cakes means it's. In medieval Europe, people would go door to door offering prayers for the dead in exchange for small cakes, a practice that influenced trick or treating. Some occult groups do celebrate and attempt to have spiritual encounters on Halloween, but that is not a. A large representation of how the average person part participates in Halloween. I don't know. So what do you think about it?

[B]

I think probably. Probably opt out versus opt in.

[A]

Okay. But I know you don't like Justin, but I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the children.

[B]

No, that's what I'm talking about, too.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I just feel like there's been a lot of, like. It's like, you know, world's kind of in a crazy place, you know?

[A]

Isn't it always, like, I used to.

[B]

Go to haunted houses. I would. I don't think I did anymore.

[A]

So that's the best way to flirt with, like, your fifth grade.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

You get to hug the whole way.

[B]

You, like, skim their fingers and you're like, whoa.

[A]

That. You hold hands.

[B]

That jolt that goes through your spine.

[A]

And they're, like, all over you. Like.

[B]

Yeah. And then you're like. Yeah, but, like, then. Then, like, the girl you're holding hands with is also, like, holding hands with your friend. Yeah, that just.

[A]

Oh, no, sorry. I was like. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, wait, you were that girl.

[A]

No, trust me. I think I wanted to be that girl, but I wasn't.

[B]

No. Yeah. Like, the whole. Just. Man, that's a part of childhood right there. And then you're, like, up late. You're like parents. Mom drives you home.

[A]

Yeah. And you're, like, out in the middle of nowhere.

[B]

Gosh, what a thrill, though. What a thrill.

[A]

I. I loved. I didn't like haunted houses because, honestly, I would keep my eyes closed the whole time, and I would just hug whoever I was interested in.

[B]

I could see you liking haunted houses, though, because you like to skydive.

[A]

No, I don't. I don't like evil things, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I've never really liked, so. But I like them because what I would always do. So my key move when it came to flirting with the boy at the haunted house was I would always get underneath their shirt, like, literally. And I would.

[B]

Forward.

[A]

Yeah. So I would put my head underneath their shirt, like, from the back, so my forehead is on Their back. And so I was actually completely covered. Shielded from all of the evil.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And then also, I was getting kind of, like, grinding up on somebody, and I would just hug them. Kind of like a bear hug.

[B]

It's so funny. Why didn't you go, like, the front?

[A]

Because I just.

[B]

Because then you could have, like, to potentially kissed.

[A]

No, because I was like, I'm not like a kisser like that. I'm a slat. Jordan. Okay. My gosh. Not that forward.

[B]

He's probably like, who's in my back?

[A]

No. And so. But I liked. I didn't like to go forward because sometimes I would open my eyes and see what was happening. So if you just go underneath the shirt and you look down, you only see the feet around you. So you know if there's something scary happening. But if you can't see them, then.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, That's a good move, babe.

[A]

No, so I always. I always did the whole, like, haunted houses because I never saw anything. I literally keep my eyes up, like, closed the whole time. The sounds sometimes get you. It's.

[B]

Yeah, the sounds. But that was enough for everyone else being scared.

[A]

Yeah. But, like, I never do scary evil movies. I've never seen any of those. I would Signs is probably the scariest movie I've ever seen.

[B]

That was scary. When you see the little leg.

[A]

Yeah. When they cut the fingers off.

[B]

Yeah. So, I mean. Yeah. I just. I don't. I don't know if it's like. I don't know if it's the time we're in or it's like the age that we're at, but I just, like, don't want to mess with scary movies or.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Anything evil.

[A]

We don't do, like. Like, we don't do scary Halloween decor. We don't do any of that. But I will say, to me, this is kind of like. Okay. So Stella and Shatner, like, so excited about the candy. Like, they. All they care about is the candy. Okay. And then, of course, Spider, like, he cannot wait to dress up like Spider Man. Like, he's so stoked about that. Stella is so excited about dressing up like a mermaid. Like, like, you know, they. It's. It is like the super bowl for these children. They're just, like, cannot wait. I. I remember the thrill of, like, Halloween. I was like, I'm gonna get so much freaking candy tonight. Like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it was so fun to go with my neighbors, and we go door to door, and it was just like, the best time, like, of my childhood. Like, I just had so Much fun. And to me, like, I never, ever in my life, probably until, like, my 30s, understood that Halloween was actually ever even evil or had evil, like, roots type whatsoever. And I just thought, everybody's trying to scare each other and whatever. To me, this is one of those things that if you put your foot down, your kids will be so annoyed because they have such a pure heart going into it, that your heart. Your kids will be so annoyed because they're going to be like, I just want to get candy with my friends. Like, why is that so wrong? To me, that's an opportunity where you have a kid that rebels. Like, when I. I think when you stop a child from doing something that they feel is so pure at the time, whether it's like, they want to dance to a song or they want to join tap or they want to dress up and go get candy, and they are like, really? I do. I. I don't think that they have ill intentions or ill will or nasty hearts when they're, like, on Halloween. Like, I think they literally just want to go with their friends and get candy. And to me, that's gonna be, like, one of those things where they go to school and they're like, your mom didn't let you trick or treat. And then they're gonna be like, yeah, my parents are crazy. Like, and so then it's like, now I know my parents are crazy now. Now I'm gonna not listen to my parents. Now I'm gonna go do what all my friends are doing because their parents are actually normal and my parents are not normal. Like, I don't know. There's just some things that I think, like. And I'm not saying because. But I think that you also teach your kids about the evil parts about Halloween and how we aren't. Like, we have rules and guidelines. Like, I don't let. First of all, Stella thinks that witch is, like, the worst word in the world. Like, she thinks the witch is, like, the B word. So, like, it's close. Yeah. So whenever somebody says which she goes, mommy says, I can't say that word because I don't. Like, I. I've been telling her since she was, like, 2 years old. I was like, you're not going to say the word witch. And I think it's because we watched a Disney show or something with a witch in it. And I said, that is a very bad person. I said, we do not say that word witch. She thinks it's a bad word. And whenever she sees, like, a witch costume or she sees it in the, at the mall, whatever. She always says those are bad people. Like, mommy, Mommy doesn't let me say that word. And so things like that, that I'm teaching her, like, we don't do evil costumes, we don't do scary movies, we don't do this or that. Like, you know, and the things that you teach them, obviously about Jesus, I feel like trump a lot of those other things, but I, I just feel like you have to be very careful with how strict you are with your kids. Like, even the Taylor Swift argument, Like, I saying, like, stella, you can't listen to Taylor Swift or like, your kids can't listen to Taylor Swift or something. You do what you do. But I think it's more about teaching your kid. Like, hey, Taylor Swift says this like, it's not right. Like, baby, don't listen to this song. And like, I, I hope that you learn to have that personal conviction like yourself and that you learn to, like, listen to things that, like, do they make you feel good or do they make you feel bad? And like, let them learn that and decide on their own instead of saying, you can't listen to yourself because, like, she's gonna be like, my mom and dad don't let me do anything. And that's when you get crazy. Kids that want to go party go crazy because they feel like they were so restricted.

[B]

Can I tell you something? That's why I'm so thankful to have you as a wife and a mother to our children. Because, like, I think I'm pretty strict. I say no a lot.

[A]

Yeah, you say no for no reason.

[B]

I know you've told me that. And I've.

[A]

Jordan. They'll be like, they're like, daddy, can we call on the sidewalk? He's like, no. I'm like, why?

[B]

I know, I got. It's like, you told me that and you called me out on that. And I've really thought about that. I was like, why am I opting to know so much? I don't know. Anyway, we'll figure that out later. But I will say I feel like if it was just me rearing our children, I think that they would.

[A]

Because you want to do the right thing, right? Like, yeah, I always offer good intention.

[B]

Yeah, I always want to do the right thing. But, like, I would be. I lean more towards, like, let's shelter fear base. Yes, yes. Like, I personally went on a rant yesterday and it was, it was about fear based parents. It was an impassioned one. And she was like, I'm so sick of all these parents making decisions out of fear. And I actually thought about that this morning. I was like, danny hates fear.

[A]

Yeah, I do.

[B]

You think it's, like, so lame.

[A]

Oh, I don't think it's lame. I think it just holds you back from living your life and, like, you're.

[B]

Just, like, an eternal optimist. You really are. Yeah, it's. It's crazy.

[A]

Well, I have this really strong belief that good will always trump evil. And so, like, even though I feel like I feel 100% confident that I could send my kids to public school and let them be taught all these crazy things, but I do believe that what I will teach them at home and over the weekends will trump what they learn at school. Like, I think if I build that type of relationship with them and they experience, like, my biggest prayer every single night when I go into my kid's bedroom, every single night, both of them, I say, I pray that I. I pray that you get to know Jesus at a very young age. Like, that's my biggest prayer. And ask to God, because I want them to have these personal convictions and go through these things themselves. Like, because that's like. And I know that it's not going to be perfect. And I feel like all these parents are so scared of their kids making mistakes or sheltering them and. Which is so. I think it's beautiful because you want to protect your children. Like, I understand. And all kids are different. Some kids need to be that way, and some kids don't. But, like, I think that kids. I mean, we all had to experience, like, good and evil and then had to choose to live the good. Yeah, but, like, I do feel like when you shelter them, they don't see all of that. And then that's whenever they get out of that bubble and they, like, don't know how to live their lives because the world is an evil place. Like, they need to learn how to fight for good when they're 5 years old, not when they're, you know, 20, not when they're 15. I don't know. And the thing is, to me, like, I just also have always had this, like, belief with my children. I've always told them, like, you are going to be different. Like, you're going to be different. You know, you're always going to be different than everybody else, and it's because you're a Christian. Like, sorry, it's going to happen. And, like, you're going to want to do things differently, maybe listen to different music, and you're going to find those Personal convictions that work for you, that, like, God is going to speak to you in your. In, like, in the own. His own way and have his own plan for you. But I can't control so much of that. Like, that's really the way that God is going to. And I know that God is going to be faithful. I know my kids are going to get to know Jesus at a very young age. I don't know if they're going to choose to follow him, but they're going to get to know him and it might be a bad. A bad way of getting to know Him. I don't know. But, like, yeah, so I don't know. I just.

[B]

Gosh, you're so special. I mean it. I'm being serious.

[A]

Well, earlier you hated me because I was buying you dupes.

[B]

I didn't hate you. I. Where did you get your optimism? You know? Like, I. I genuinely mean this. Like, I don't think a lot of people are optimistic. Like, you're optimistic. Is it. Grit? Is. You're like, oh, it'll always, like, figure it out.

[A]

No, I think that I, like, had this epiphany, probably when I think Francis Chan was speaking when I was like. I went to go hear him speak when I was really young, and he had this, like, sermon.

[B]

Not the answer. Oh, I'm shook.

[A]

No, he had this sermon that, like, really spoke to me. I never forget it. Like, I remember I was sitting in, like, the stadium, and it was basically about, like. It was basically about, like, are you going to waste your life? Like, are you going to live in fear and not try things and not, like, try to speak about the gospel and. Because you're so scared. And he said, the worst feeling in the world is when you get to your deathbed and you regret your whole life. And I've always just thought about that, and I'm like, I don't want to regret anything. Like, I'd rather go for it and fail and just, like, feel like. Like it's all going to be okay. Then just be like, stay in this, like, bubble or whatever and live in fear. I don't know.

[B]

I mean, I love it. I'm so thankful for it. Because it's like the opposite. It's what I struggle with the most.

[A]

But the thing is, too, I feel like in the moments that you fail or the thing when things don't go right, like, I got an mic in high school, okay, Which. So, like, that's probably an unideal. And unlike a. Not a good. Like, if. If you were Looking at parenting, and you were like, my kid drank alcohol before they were 21 and then got in trouble by the police. You would look at that as a failure as a parent from a parenting standpoint. Like, I think of Stella getting kicked out of school. I think of her drinking when she's 17, 15, 16. And as a parent, you'd be like, I'm a failure. Like, my kid got a ticket, got caught by the police at a party where there's drugs, alcohol, marijuana, all the things. Like, that's a failure as a parent. Right. That's what we would all think. That's what you would think right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If Stella got kicked out of a class, that was probably the best thing that ever happened to me ever. Because, like, that was when I. I got grounded for, like, two weeks, but I grounded myself for, like, two months. And that was whenever everything was stripped away from me. That all my achievements in high school, everything I had worked so hard for, it was all gone. And then I just had to sit with Danny Austin at home, and I had to figure out, like. And I joined, like, young life, and I was really involved with young life, and I feel like that's, like, one of the times that I experienced God the most. So I know my kids are going to have moments like, that I can't, like, protect them. And honestly, those moments are like, what. Bring them closer to God. Sometimes I pray it's never, like, so drastic. Like, I was just. I had a couple sips of beer at a party. It wasn't really that big of a deal. You know, I didn't do anything that bad. I just. I was hiding in the back of somebody's truck, like. Or it was actually my car hiding in the back. So you pray that your kids are protected and all of that. But, like, we all. Every single person has had struggles. No matter how much your parents have tried to protect you, we've all had something.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That hurts. And your parents can't protect you from everything.

[B]

No, I mean, the reason I appreciate you so much is I feel like that's the. That's the lesson. I feel like I'm trying to learn right now because I was convinced that, like, my risk mitigation or my fear could protect me from everything. And I feel like the theme of this year is like, oh, I can't really.

[A]

You don't really have as much control as you think.

[B]

No, you have zero. Zero.

[A]

But you want. You know, you want to be smart with the risk.

[B]

Yeah. No, I mean, I'm not like. Yeah, But I think that I've always.

[A]

Been a very smart risk taker. That's how I consider myself. Yeah, no, like, I always picture the worst of the worst, and I'm like, okay, I'm homeless. It's not that bad. So we're so worse. I'll just go call a buddy and see if I can stay with them for a little bit. That's the worst thing that can happen. Okay, I'll be good. I'm gonna try it, see what happens.

[B]

Yeah, no, I mean, it's a very. It's a very unique mindset that you have. A lot of people want it, but we don't have it. Only you have it. Teach us.

[A]

Let your kids get candy on Halloween. Just kidding. Don't do whatever you think is best. Please don't listen to me. I really don't know. I just don't want my kids to think, like, I don't want them to go crazy. I didn't let them get candy.

[B]

Did we have fun?

[A]

Yeah. We didn't cover anything on the script.

[B]

We never do. I never even look at them. It's good to have his backups, though, because some. Some. Some weeks I. I come and I'm just feeling a little groggy or grumpy or just.

[A]

No, you're so grumpy sometimes.

[B]

You're grumpy, too.

[A]

You're really grumpy. Okay, well, we love you. Make sure you check us out on Instagram d Influence podcast and tick tock the Influence podcasts and leave us a comment. What do you think about celebrating Halloween? Sorry, we're not celebrating Halloween. What do you think about letting your kids go out one time a year, put in a costume and go and get candy from neighbors? Okay. Love you. Bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect direct financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.