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Danny Austin
Foreign podcast is a dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast de Influenced. We're happy to be here.
Jordan
We're happy to be here.
Danny Austin
It's. It's crazy. We've had a wild week. Lots to. To be grateful for. Thankful for Jordan.
Jordan
I almost died yesterday.
Danny Austin
Yeah, sure. Do you want to tell the story of what happened?
Jordan
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people are asking questions. So.
Danny Austin
There was obviously a. A plane crash.
Jordan
Yeah, there was a. I'll just preface by saying there was a plane crash and the pilot passed away. I did not know the pilot, but prayers for his family. I don't, I don't know who his family is or if he has a family. I don't, I don't know any details. But yeah, there was a plane crash on the news yesterday and it was a small plane out of Mesquite Airport. And so I've only flown on this plane about five times. Usually it's for work if we have to do like a same day trip.
Danny Austin
Well, you've. But we've flown out of that airport.
Jordan
Yeah. So usually. So there's a small plane that's. It's called a dry lease. So basically an owner, usually someone, a businessman or something owns this plane and he leases it out to other people who need to use it when he's not using it. Right. So it's a small airport in Mesquite. Several people have been on this plane. It's a. I think it's a Citation plane, which is like the kind of F150 of planes. Like it's a super reliable plane, like a Cessna. No, Cessnas are not reliable. Oh, yeah, those are the small ones.
Danny Austin
Oh, didn't we take a Cessna last time?
Jordan
No.
Danny Austin
Okay. Sorry.
Jordan
And so it's like a reliable, pretty much private plane. And so it's, it's really helpful to us if I have to go with a group of the DIVI team to somewhere or we have to go with a group to do a same day business trip. So I've done it like five times. And we always leave out of an airport in. Outside of Dallas, Mesquite. And we needed to go up to Pennsylvania, which is where QVC is located, for a meeting. It was me, our CFO at divi, our head of people. And then your mom and her team. There's a cool project. I'll talk about a different time that we're working on potentially with QVC and Divi and everyone. So we had had this trip planned and when I was planning it for some reason, I was like, I'm gonna fly out of Addison. Like, I never, which is another small airport. Never fly out of Addison. Never have flown out of Addison. Yeah, extra had to pay extra. But just my gut was like, I feel like we should fly out of Addison. It was also slightly more convenient for everyone else involved. It's less convenient for me almost to the point where I was like, maybe I'll drive to Mesquite, hop on the plane there, park my car there, and then fly to Addison and pick them up. And that was a very serious thought. And yesterday morning, we all meet at the Addison airport, and I was texting the pilot the night before, and the plan was he was going to take off from Mesquite and then land in Addison, pick us up, and then we were going to go to Pennsylvania and come back. And around, I. I think I texted him that morning and I just said, hey, on our way to Addison. See you soon. And the night before, he had said, looking forward to flying with you. And around 7:45, we all get there. I tell the Addison airport concierge, I said, hey, just let us know when the plane's here. Eight o'clock rolls around. Hey, is the plane here? No. Plane is shovering, showing that it's hovering over Addison.805 rolls around. 8:10. Hey, is the plane here? No, still hovering. And then I got a text from my friend who sent me a tweet that a plane had crashed, taking off in Mesquite. And it very quickly dawned on me that that was our plane. And there were a couple people in our group, mostly on your mom's team, who were already pretty worried about getting on the plane. I think when you fly, like, on smaller planes, even if it is private, you know, people get scared about that instead of commercial. And so, yeah, we basically found out that the plane had crashed. And then we all kind of had to go about our day a little bit. And it was just. I think we were all in shock. And then slowly we all started opening up about what had happened, kind of realizing that, you know, all six of us, realistically, if I would have sent one logistical detail different, either in my life or for the life of the other six people, we would have all been on that plane. And I think we all started opening up about it. I told your mom, and your mom was like, oh, my gosh, I had this terrible nightmare last night. And I Woke up at 3:30 and just started praying. And she said that she had felt like there were going to be Technical issues with the plane or something with the plane. And she just had this really bad spirit. And then I called you and I said, hey, Danny, I just want you to know, like, I'm okay. You know, there was a plane crash in Mesquite. That was our plane. You know, we're flying out of Addison. Because you didn't even know where I was flying out of. Like, for all you knew I was still flying out of Mesquite.
Danny Austin
I would have thought you were flying out of Mesquite.
Jordan
Yeah, and you would have. If I wouldn't have talked to you, you would have thought I was on that plane with your mom.
Danny Austin
100%, everybody.
Jordan
And so I told you and you were like, jordan, I felt this spirit at like, you didn't say 3:30, but like 4 in the morning, I woke up and I just had this horrible nightmare. And your nightmare was so bad you went. You still haven't told me what the nightmare was. And then your mom called your dad, and your dad even was like, I had a horrible dream last night about this plane crash. And then someone on your mom's team said that her dad had begged her for multiple days not to get on. Not to get on the plane. And then what's crazy is that today this was like all over the Dallas News about this plane crash. And they interviewed a local pastor in Mesquite, and this pastor, three days before.
Danny Austin
It crashed close to this church.
Jordan
Yeah, it's close to this church. But this. This pastor of this church in Mesquite was interviewed on the news and he said, three days ago, I had a very vivid nightmare. And I usually don't remember my dreams about a plane crash. And I don't think. I don't remember if he said it was like a plane crash at his church or what, but.
Danny Austin
No, he did. He said that in. In the backyard essentially of his church, he had a dream. He said that when he heard there was a lot explosion, he knew immediately it. It was a plane.
Jordan
Yeah. And so, yeah, yesterday was just really. It was very weird because I just think about all the things in my mind, the small little details that led us to the decision to not fly out of Mesquite and be on that plane.
Danny Austin
And, well, that plane, even if it. Because we. Nobody knows what happened. And they said it will take two years to the full.
Jordan
So I. I talked to someone who works at the airport today, and unfortunately, the guy I talked to was really close with the pilot. And so he was. It's. It's outside of Heath, Texas. And so I think a lot of people in Heath use this plane a lot. They've flown to Super Bowls. They've flown to, you know, Florida on this plane. And so when people found out, because Miles lives in Heath, and so when people found out that one of Miles's friend was supposed to be on the plane, it kind of got around. And it was crazy because my mom didn't know about the situation. She had heard about it from one of her friends. And then I guess last night called you, you know, crying, just. It just hit everyone of like, oh, my gosh, we were so close to just a. An absolute catastrophe.
Danny Austin
But if it was something that was wrong with the plane, even if it would have got to Addison, y'all still would have gotten on that same plane.
Jordan
Like, yeah, so could have the. You know, if it was an engine failure or something like that, it didn't have to happen right when the takeoff happened. It could have. We could have relanded. We could have all been on the plane in Addison and taken off. And so I think we're all just very obviously, extremely sad for the pilot on board. And he was a very decorated pilot, too.
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
20 years flying experience. And so usually, I think it's. No one knows whether it was pilot error, like, if he had a heart attack, if.
Danny Austin
Do you know how old he was?
Jordan
I don't know.
Danny Austin
Yeah, we don't know anything. No one knows.
Jordan
But it will. There will be a preliminary report that comes out in two or three weeks, which should show some details. But the full report of what happened with the plane won't be for, like, two years.
Danny Austin
Wow.
Jordan
And so it's. It's crazy. I was. I. Yeah, I don't really, like, know how to feel, to be honest. Like, I think I was, like, kind of in just sort of adrenaline mode yesterday.
Danny Austin
Well, because then you still had to do the whole meeting and go through with everything. You'd pulled all these people together. So you kind of have to, like.
Jordan
Yeah, we all kind of. And we decided not to tell the people in the meeting that we were with, like, what had happened.
Danny Austin
Like, the other people coming.
Jordan
The other people coming to meet us. And so. But then they found out, I think, through your stories later, and we're like, oh, my gosh, I'm so glad y'all didn't make it to Pennsylvania, essentially. And so, yeah, my parents were super worried.
Danny Austin
Yeah, it's horrible.
Jordan
Yeah. Pretty crazy. I think you're. You're very shaken up well by it.
Danny Austin
Okay. So, yeah, it's Also, just kind of. It was crazy because you and my mom were. I mean, my mom was pretty adamant about me coming with y'all. And there was, like, another thing, like, when I denied coming on the trip, like, there was another part of me that was like. Because I remember when we flew to. Where did we just fly to?
Jordan
Chicago.
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
Yeah. But a different. Different plane. But, yeah, same airport.
Danny Austin
The same airport. Same kind of situation where, you know, you. We both were on the plane, that small plane, and, like, you know, there was, like, all that turbulence. It was a little scary. And I remember thinking, man, if this thing goes down, like, our kids lose both of us. Like, I remember thinking that. And so I remember making a mental note in my head, hey, next time we do business trips, just one of us can go. Like, it's fine. You know, I remember just kind of like that in my know of, like, why I wasn't going to come with y'all. I remember that was, like a small. It was like a factor. Like, I was like, we don't both need to be on this plane.
Jordan
Like, yeah.
Danny Austin
You know, and so it's just. It's just crazy. But, like, I. Yeah, when you told me, I was definitely very shaken up, obviously, so sad for the pilot. So crazy that you decided to change last minute because we always just fly at a mesquite. Like, just the routine. So definitely wild.
Jordan
Yeah. Like I said, I. I never. It's weird because I didn't know him. I had never met him face to face, but usually you. You text with the pilot beforehand, and it just. I think the hardest part for me was I was like, oh, my gosh. I was texting him last night.
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
And it was just like. I mean, we have, like, three texts. It was just like, hey, I'm Jordan. Excited to fly with you.
Danny Austin
So surreal.
Jordan
Like, and just no one.
Danny Austin
It.
Jordan
It. I think for me, it's like. So I got home, and you were at your doctor's appointment, and so the first person I told was Jackie, who cleans our house. And she's very prophetic. She's like.
Danny Austin
She's always like, I see.
Jordan
I feel this spirit of your Latina. Prophetic. She prophesied me over me all day. Honestly, she prophesied over me so much that I'm kind of like, okay, Jackie, you prophesied me over yesterday. Like, I'm good. And she.
Danny Austin
I told her I'm not. She's like, I'm not meant to just clean your house. Like, I was sent here to pray for you guys.
Jordan
And she Was for sure.
Danny Austin
No, she was.
Jordan
She always knows. She can feel in our spirits, like when we're fighting and stuff like that, which is both a double edged sword. It's positive.
Danny Austin
She walks in, she's like, she's like, you guys are you guys.
Jordan
Yeah. And she also like wants to deal with it. And we're like, jackie, like, we'll figure it out. Like, you know. So anyway, I told her I walked in and I don't know, for some reason I was like, I want to know what Jackie thinks about it. And so I was like, jackie almost died today. And she was like, oh, no.
Danny Austin
She's like, no.
Jordan
And I. And then I showed her the video and like told her what happened and she goes, jordan, you. I'm telling you, God told me you're Solomon. You're Solomon. You have a purpose so much greater. She said, yes, business and family. But like, and she, she talks just like that. And she was like, you have a purpose. And I like, I kind of am like still shaken up. So I'm like walking to the bedroom and of course she follows me. And then she like shuts the. I like shut the door and she opens it. She's like, you have a part. Do you hear me?
Danny Austin
But that's the one thing I was, I was going to say is, okay, so my mom and my husband were going to be on that flight.
Jordan
And listen, we hold. We hold. We pull a lot of strings for Danny. That would be a support system that would be very difficult to lose.
Danny Austin
I'd be like, I'd be like, dad.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny Austin
What are we going to do?
Jordan
And your dad, your, your dad's amazing.
Danny Austin
Like, I don't know what, but we.
Jordan
Like Danny's mom and I, we're like the workhorses, like behind this family. Like, we get ish done. And I was like, I, I again, just had the thought. I was like, does Danny know all the passwords? I was like, I go, so yesterday when I got home, I was like, danny, if I would have died today, who do you call about our finances? And it's always our friend Connor Combs.
Danny Austin
Because now it's on record so everybody else can.
Jordan
Yeah, Capital Partners. He's a strong believer. He's super trustworthy. I was like, danny, who do you call? And she was like, connor Combs. And I was like, okay, good. I was like, where's the will? Y'all know we've been trying our best to keep ourselves healthy and more importantly, keep ourselves healthy. This is where beekeepers natural comes in. Defend your immune system, support whole body health and fight oxidate oxidative stress with antioxidants. Beekeeper Naturals mission is to reinvent the medical cabinet. We merge modern science with natural medicine to create clean, effective products that actually work. Their hero ingredient, Propolis, is the medicine of the beehive and delivers antioxidants, vitamin C, iron, B vitamins and uniquely beneficial compounds that support immune health. Propolis is the defender of the beehive, a powerful combination of plant and tree resin and enzymes made by bees. It's high in antioxidants like polyphenols and flavonoids which help fight free radicals and oxidative stress. Studies have found propolis have antibacterial properties anti inflammatory effects in addition to its ability to fight germs through its antimicrobial and antifungal properties. Plus, Beekeepers Naturals has so many different products for you in the whole family. They have throat spray, throat soothing pops for the kiddos, vitamin C, lips, lip symol, gut health and so much more. Today, Beekeepers Naturals is offering you an exclusive offer. Go to beekeepersnaturals.com Danny or enter code Danny to get 20 off your order. That's B E e K E E P E R S N A T U r a l s.com Danny or enter code Danny Beekeepers Naturals products are also available at Target, Whole Foods, Amazon, CVS and Walgreens.
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Jordan
Last Sunday is when we came out of.
Danny Austin
Especially last Sunday, but even this whole year. And so.
Jordan
No, no, last Sunday is when we came out of the fight.
Danny Austin
Oh, come out of the fight.
Jordan
We got back in sync. What was the date? March. Something.
Danny Austin
Not fighting. We weren't fighting, but just, like, we were just not in sync. Like, it wasn't. We weren't, like, moving as this, like, unit. And like, the one thing I just, like, thought to myself is, like, thank God that, like, we've seeked God, like, up until this point. And, like, I. I could die personally, like, knowing that I gave it my all, you know?
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny Austin
And there's, like. And so there's that side of it that I was, like, obviously thinking about.
Jordan
And see, I was the opposite. I was like. I was like, are you kidding me? God, you put me through this job for four months, and then we finally come out of job season, and then you're just gonna kill me. I was like, I've got such a better marriage to live with, Danny. We're now in sync.
Danny Austin
I got more to live.
Jordan
And three days later.
Danny Austin
Yeah, you know, but it's, like, obviously a very sobering, you know, reminder to continue to fight like that and to take it all very seriously, because life is so fragile, and. Yeah, I just. Your mind just goes a lot of really dark places. Yeah.
Jordan
You just got to suppress it. That's what I've been doing.
Danny Austin
No, see, I've been.
Jordan
Shove it down. Shove it way down.
Danny Austin
Yeah, I haven't been doing that. And I've been feeling all the Feels. And I've let my mind, like, go to those places. Like, I've let my mind go, like, okay, so it's me. I'm raising the kids alone. What do I do?
Jordan
Or, like, do you remarry? What's his name?
Danny Austin
Sorry, I didn't go that far. I didn't get that far. I was just like, how. Like, how would we get through this season? Or how. Or just, like, how do I want to live every day moving forward from this? Or, like, what is God trying to tell me? Or. I don't know. It's just so. Sometimes it's so weird how. How God. How God works.
Jordan
Yeah. The last thing. And I think we can shift the mood. First of all, I've gotten a lot of text. I appreciate it. I think I'm okay. But I also admit Danny told me I'm gonna have to process this. And I admit I probably am not processing.
Danny Austin
Well, you said last night you were feeling guilt.
Jordan
I was feeling guilt, yeah.
Danny Austin
Yeah. We don't talk about it. We don't.
Jordan
I. I'm. Yeah, you're like, I'm shoving it down. It'll come up in a year. I'll have to deal with the ptsd, the guilt. The guilt or whatever, but, you know, yeah, for now, I'm okay. And on a lighter, slightly funnier note, our private equity group for DIVI called me this morning, and they're great. I. I love them. They're. We're. I feel like we're, like, friends with them, but they called me, and they were like, hey, you know, so glad you're okay. You know, we really realized we missed in our diligence process taking out a key man policy, which basically is like an insurance policy if, like, one of the main executives at DIVI passes away. It's like an insurance policy gives. That gives financial buffer to the investors to figure it out. They're like, you know, we probably should. Now that you. We know you're okay, we should probably. They were, like, delicately, like, prancing around it because they were like, they don't want to be insensitive. Like, you know, we should probably, like, you know, take out a policy. And I was like, so you're saying I'm a key man.
Danny Austin
So you're saying I am special.
Jordan
So you're saying that I met. You'd miss me.
Danny Austin
You'd miss me.
Jordan
So that was the whole process.
Danny Austin
Like, Jordan's like, what would you do? I'd, like, walk into the DIVI office and be like, hey, guys, so I'm a CEO. Now, does anybody have a computer I can borrow?
Jordan
I'm usually just mobile.
Danny Austin
I'm just mobile. Like, does anybody have an email I could have?
Jordan
Like, no. I was like, you call this person to run the company?
Danny Austin
Yeah. Who?
Jordan
I don't know. Let's leave it a mystery on the podcast.
Danny Austin
Okay.
Jordan
Maybe it's our podcast producer.
Danny Austin
Yeah. Yeah.
Jordan
New CEO of Divi.
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
No, but I'm grateful to be here. I do not think I will be flying on small planes. I'm going to be honest. I. I know. I want to kind of say this, that I stand by that. Those planes are safe.
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
The statistics are really hard to track because you're comparing, like, private plane rides to commercial aircraft flights. And so the statistics aren't like, apples to apples, but I do think that those smaller planes are. I think that they are safe. I don't know if I will personally ever get back on one. I do not think ever that we would get on one together again. And I think it would have to be extraordinary circumstances to do so.
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
And then for me, this is like a personal decision. But, you know, they. They sometimes are flown by two pilots. They're sometimes flown by one pilot. This was going to be a trip. Every time I've flown in one, it's been two pilots.
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
This was going to be one with one pilot. And just from a systems check standpoint, I probably would never, you know, ride with just one pilot.
Danny Austin
You would, like. Yeah, I think. Yeah, that makes. That makes sense. It's probably a little triggering. Last question. Would you go skydiving again?
Jordan
Honestly, I don't think with my. So I don't think with this keyman policy, I can really.
Danny Austin
What else can you not do?
Jordan
I don't know. I mean, I gotta read the policy, but I guess I'm just now thinking about, like, are you guys gonna, like, hamstring me in life? The first questions they asked, they literally emailed it right after. And they were like, do you smoke tobacco? And I was like, no. Do you drink? Like, what other dangerous activities do you do? And I was like, so many crazy. I'm a little bit of a daredevil.
Danny Austin
You're, like, raising three children.
Jordan
I actually don't think I can skydive because of our life insurance policy.
Danny Austin
Oh, wow.
Jordan
Which is in place. So if the worst would have happened. Danny's.
Danny Austin
I don't want anything but you.
Jordan
That's so sweet. That was the right answer. Hard pivot.
Danny Austin
Yeah. Switching gears.
Jordan
I was realizing this in the car the other day. Oh, my Gosh have you ever listened to Kenny Chesney?
Danny Austin
I know you have this, like, you're obsessed with him, baby. We went to his concert.
Jordan
I know.
Danny Austin
It was so fun.
Jordan
Where has he been? Yeah, I know he's big for everyone, but he's a.
Danny Austin
He's a little man, too.
Jordan
I am so pro. Kenny Chesney right now.
Danny Austin
Yeah, he's great.
Jordan
Maybe it's because we're going to Cabo next week, and it's like, you know, like, the. The right vibes for Cabo.
Danny Austin
Cabo.
Jordan
And I'm like, on a Kenny Chesney kick right now.
Danny Austin
Well, another thing that was weird yesterday was we got, like, the final offer. We were. We've been looking at lake houses, and we got, like, a final offer on this lake house that we've been negotiating back and forth with the sellers on. And honestly, like, I. Since it is a lake house, like, I. I wasn't as. Not that I wasn't sold on it, but, like, it's not something that you. You need. You don't need a lake house. But it's like a huge blessing. And I was like, man, we could have so many cool memories here with the family and Christmas and Easter and all these things. And. And then after yesterday, I was like, just get the dang lake house. Like, I don't even care. Like, why am I so hung up on, like, the flowers that are going to be planted outside of the lake house? You're so right.
Jordan
We're kind of like, YOLO now.
Danny Austin
Yeah, I'm kind of just. We're a little. Why are we stressed about this? Like, just get the lake house, live it up, and make the mems. Like, don't be so stressed out over if they're gonna plant a tree in the front yard or not, you know?
Jordan
Do you remember what I said to you in the car?
Danny Austin
You said that I'm. That I have commitment issues when it comes to houses.
Jordan
Oh, no, I didn't say that yesterday.
Danny Austin
Oh, okay.
Jordan
I said in my. My new found mentality, and this was fresh. This was like four hours after these.
Danny Austin
Oh, you want to live life?
Jordan
Yeah. And do you remember what I said I wanted to do?
Danny Austin
You wanted to do me in the car. You said you wanted to do me in the car.
Jordan
Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's like. I did say that. Yeah.
Danny Austin
He said if I want to pull over and date in the car, I'm.
Jordan
That is what I said. You're right. I was like, you know what? Like, I have this newfound boldness in my life.
Danny Austin
I was like that's what you want to do.
Jordan
We're on i35, but like if I want to do this, I'm going to do it.
Danny Austin
That's what you said.
Jordan
She wasn't into it, but.
Danny Austin
Well, not.
Jordan
It was dangerous.
Danny Austin
What, what were you going to say though?
Jordan
No, that was what I was going to say.
Danny Austin
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Jordan
I just want to know if you remember.
Danny Austin
Yeah, I remember.
Jordan
Because we're also in sync now.
Danny Austin
Synced up.
Jordan
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Danny Austin
Yeah, so, so we got, well, I think we got the lake house, which will be awesome. It's so kind of funny. Like, the lake house that we got looks exactly like our house now, which I didn't really. I mean, it's beautiful. It's so beautiful. But it's like I really wanted like a different style, like warm and stone everywhere and really rustic y vibes. And they honestly just didn't really have anything like that. And I was like, you know, I'm not going to get hung up on the aesthetics. Like, this is just for the mems and. But no, it's beautiful and it's fully furnished, which will be really nice for us. Like, they're literally, they're leaving like their plates and napkins, like, fully furnished.
Jordan
We wanted a place big enough for our, our friends. That was like our big thing. We wanted to.
Danny Austin
Jordan's like, Jordan's convinced that we have like so many friends.
Jordan
No, honestly, guys, this is so funny. We were looking at. So there's like a neighborhood that we bought in where it's like a lot of newer places. And then we were looking at this, like, older property was 12,000 square feet. It was 12,000 square feet. And we say that just to show you how big this was. And I was convinced in my head, like, this, this place slept 32 people.
Danny Austin
And Jordan's like, we don't. This is.
Jordan
And I was like, I was like, this is too small. We have too many friends. And then I started counting the friends that we have on our hands, and I barely got off, like, one hand.
Danny Austin
Yeah, you think that we have a lot more friends that we do. And the thing is, even if you have a lot of friends, when you invite everybody to a lake house that has kids, like, they're. They typically can't all come.
Jordan
No, I know.
Danny Austin
Yeah. And, like, also, you don't need. Every Single time you go, you don't need to invite every single person, you know?
Jordan
I know, but I just. We. We got really excited about together. Don't act like this is my idea. Danny named this place that we were gonna. We thought we were gonna open up, like, our. Basically our own resort. And she was like, it's gonna be called the Ramirez Ranchita. And I was like, yeah, like. And then we can, like, have, like, custom soap. That's like, the Rainchita.
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
And, like, then we realized that we would have people out for opening weekend, and then. And then only, like, two couples would want to come, like, the next weekends until the next big thing. And we would be stuck with all of this space. And we were like, yeah, we literally had this moment. We were like, what were we thinking? We're so dumb.
Danny Austin
We're so stupid.
Jordan
We're so stupid.
Danny Austin
Well, it wasn't just that. It wasn't the fact that it was, like, so big. It was. The backyard was massive, and it required a ton of maintenance. It had, like, two outdoor kitchens. Like, it was, like, literally, like, a mini resort. And what was hard is it was the same price as the house that we bought, because. But it was outside of the community, so it was cheaper. So what that means, though, is, like, we would have to basically, like, create the environment. The resort, like, we would have to, because where we bought, they have, like, a lot of amenities. They have, like, you know, they have a restaurant nearby. They have two public pools. They have concerts. They have all the things for. For you there and here. You would have to create it all, which would just require, like, a lot more work. Like, if we were going to invite friends to come out for the weekend, we'd have to go out a couple days earlier and, like, power wash it and get rid of all the cobwebs. There's tons of bugs. There's.
Jordan
But I was so convinced.
Danny Austin
I.
Jordan
Listen, I'm the least handy husband you'll probably ever meet. And I was like, yeah, I can totally fix that. Like, I need a nail gun.
Danny Austin
You would have to spend.
Jordan
I need A power washer. I need this. And I was like, no, Danny, don't worry. Like, I can maintain this place.
Danny Austin
No. And here's the thing. And then so we went. We went and looked at it while it's raining. So weren't really able to, like, see the backyard very, like, actually, like, experience the backyard. We went back on a really sunny day, and there was so many spiders. So many spiders. Not just, like, on the outside, but also on the inside. Like, cobwebs and stuff. I was like, I can't. I, like, I can't. I would not come out here by myself because I'd be so scared of all the bugs that I can't. I can't. So then I was like, if I'm scared of the bugs, Stella probably won't even get in the pool because she's so scared of all the cobwebs. So anyway, it was just. It was an older home, like, beautiful. Beautiful. It was built in 2001, so not that old, but it was, like, you know, a different style. Oh.
Jordan
Doesn't this make you think of our lake house? This is Kenny Chesney. It's a song called Get Along.
Danny Austin
It reminds me more of the ranch. So funny, because Jordan, when I met him, like, you hated country music.
Jordan
No, I mean, this is like America.
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
I don't know. It's like Kenny Chesney is like America in a bottle.
Danny Austin
Yeah. America in a bottle. Yeah. So hopefully we'll be able to use it before Easter, which would be. Or for Easter, which would be awesome. So we're pumped about that.
Jordan
We are pumped. What else has been going on with you? How you doing? What are three things you're grateful for?
Danny Austin
You're alive.
Jordan
Strong. Number one.
Danny Austin
Let's see. We're going to hang out with some new friends this weekend.
Jordan
Yes. Yes.
Danny Austin
We're making new friends. Two new. Two new friends. We're going to dinner with Broadmoor House tonight. Stephanie from Broadmoor House, she just bought a. I don't want to say where it is, just in case she didn't share. Never mind. Keep it private. What else am I thankful for?
Jordan
They let her in. They kicked us out. Explain that one.
Danny Austin
Should we tell that story now?
Jordan
I think we already did. No.
Danny Austin
Did we? No, we didn't tell a story. Maybe we can tell it now because it's, like, funny. It's like, pass. It's in the past.
Jordan
No, just don't. We got kicked out of a suburb. Kind of ran out with pitchforks.
Danny Austin
Yeah, kind of. We had this, like, angry, realtor not agent. Agent. Not our realtor. Our realtor is amazing. This angry agent, she tried to blackmail me. No, not blackmail me. Sorry, what do you call it?
Jordan
Blackball.
Danny Austin
Black ball. Like what? Yeah, black ball. She tried to blackball me. She sent a video that I filmed of many publicly listed homes that you can find.
Jordan
She sent a video.
Danny Austin
You can find the price and the layout and the pictures of all online. She sent it to a country club, to all the directors of a country club, the board of directors, country club, trying to blackball me from the country club so that I could never get into the country club because I took a video of these homes. And because when I went to go visit the country club with someone that was a member, I took Swedish fish and crackers from the woman's locker room and. Which he said it was fine. And she, I think she just was an angry person.
Jordan
I don't think she liked you from the get go, to be honest. She was one of those. And she never gave me a fair shot. I'm like, yes, I'm married to her, but come on, people, give me a shot.
Danny Austin
People are always like, danny's the worst. Her, her husband's funny. Like. And I'm like, you don't even know us.
Jordan
Yeah, they just.
Danny Austin
People, you know.
Jordan
This is the text she sent to our realtor. I'm not going to say his name. Blank. Your clients took Swedish fish and crackers from the Blank country club, question mark, question mark. This is completely unacceptable. The video has already been sent to the Blank country club board members. I have lived in this community for 15 years and I will not tolerate this level of disrespect. Take down the entire post immediately and confirm once it's done. And I was kind of like, I was like, girl, you know, listen, like, we're nice people, but, like, this seems a little disrespectful.
Danny Austin
Like you to do is ask nicely.
Jordan
Yeah, like, it's kind of like now I don't really want to help you. Yeah, like, and honestly, like, I'm here trying to feed my wife who's breastfeeding. And yeah, if she needs Swedish fish, Swedish fish and crackers, she needs Swedish fish and crackers. Like, I'm going to give them to her guys.
Danny Austin
They were set out for public consumption. For public consumption. And we were with a member that was like, invited us to be his guest so that he could show us around. Because we were thinking about applying to be members there. Honestly, we weren't really. But like. And here's the thing that's so weird is the video. We did end up taking it down because, you know, it's like we were.
Jordan
Just, like, I held out for as long as I could.
Danny Austin
This drama is so not worth it. Like, it's so silly.
Jordan
We had to get.
Danny Austin
We had to get lawyers involved.
Jordan
We had to get lawyers involved over this. And we're not those people. We're not litigious people.
Danny Austin
No, like, literally, we are not. These people call me and be like, hey, Danny. Like, you know, and do you mind taking that down? You know what I would have done? I've been like, absolutely. I would been like, are you cool if I edit out this one or two clips and then I repost it? And, like, you know, we never shared where we were. We never said the community. Like, just, some people just want to fight. And I feel like. Do you feel like they just want to fight, or do you think that they didn't like that I was like a content creator?
Jordan
To be honest, I don't think they.
Danny Austin
Liked you, which is so funny because I'm literally so nice to everyone. Like, literally.
Jordan
I. I know I don't have a.
Danny Austin
Mean bone in my body, but there's.
Jordan
These people that just don't like you. I like and I. I listen. They think that they hide it, but I can see it in their eyes within the first five seconds. I really can. Like, they think that they're hiding it, and I'm like, no. I'm like, this is bad News Bears, because you're like. You're in this position with some people. You are never going to climb out of the hole that you're in.
Danny Austin
I feel like I've done it.
Jordan
And they don't even know you. It's. It's literally just. It's your profession. It's what you do for a living. It's who they think that you are. It's the manipulation they think you're doing. It's all of the above. But, like, that person was one of those people. And honestly, what I felt was that community was probably full of those people.
Danny Austin
No, I don't think so. I think I'm kind of extreme. Yeah, you're being extreme because you're hurt. And that. That you say something. Hurt people.
Jordan
Hurt people. And I. And I'm hurt. Hurting people.
Danny Austin
Because you were hurt.
Jordan
Yes.
Danny Austin
Yeah. And you're taking it out on the rest of the community. I don't think that it's like that. I've heard wonderful things. Are you doing this because I have something on my.
Jordan
Oh, no. I was biting My lips.
Danny Austin
Oh, yeah. You should bite your lip more often or bite your tongue. So, yeah, I don't think it was the community. I think it's just you find people like this everywhere, you know? But. So I don't want to take it on the community because, honestly, maybe we will end up there one day. I don't want to be. I don't actually want to be blackballed. And here's the thing. I'm not really a country club girl. Like, I. I'll join one, like, because I want to make friends and, like, use the amenities and stuff and get the free Swedish fish and crackers. But, like, it's okay if I've been blackballed there. Like, I don't really care that much. And here's another thing. I just want to say, the video that we shared, it was the one where we were going to look at houses in the suburbs. So a lot of y'all probably saw it. We took it down. It's not live anymore. I. We re. Edited it and posted, like, a new version on TikTok. It didn't do as well because we had to edit so much out. But. But in that video, like, I was, like, pumping in the car and, like, had, like, the pumps up to my boobs, and I'm, like, talking about breastfeeding. I'm talking about, like, these not intimate things, but, like, just normal things. It really grosses me out that this, like, female agent sent the video to all these old. Sorry if you're a man on the board, but, like, all these elder men on the board, like, that just.
Jordan
We. We don't know if they're elder men, babe.
Danny Austin
Yes, we do. Could be like, come on.
Jordan
Okay. It's like you're stereotyping that. It's old white men on this country club board. Give me a break. They could be a very diverse community.
Danny Austin
I'm going to look it up. Let's look it up. Yeah. You think that there's a diver? I. First of all, I doubt there's a female on this.
Jordan
You want to know how petty I am and how protective I am over my sweet baby Danny? I almost sent a crate. Yeah, no, not a box. Not two boxes. A crate of Swedish fish and the exact brand of crackers to that country club. And said, sorry, here's your repayment from Danny Austin and husband.
Danny Austin
Yeah, I'm sure they were really, really upset about those. The sweet. The two Swedish fish I took literally. They were. It was like, not even a package. Shooters. Fish. It was like the bowl where you can take out a couple. I probably took three out, and I put two in my Chanel bag just floating around there. Like, there's probably still one in there. Like, that's the type of class you guys are missing out on over here.
Jordan
Our podcast producer said that Danny was super nice.
Danny Austin
She heard before she worked for us.
Jordan
Oh, yeah, sorry. Our podcast producer heard before she worked for us. She just disclose this for the first time that Danny is sweet and her husband's a little kooky.
Danny Austin
That's what she heard.
Jordan
That's what she heard about us from someone who used to live in the neighborhood. Well, I mean, is this how it feels? Oh, it feels terrible. See, I thought I was just a funny guy. Oh, man. Now I, like, hate myself. How do you deal with this every day? It's horrible. It's horrible. I just immediately went from feeling really great about myself to just horrible about myself. Jordan, first of all, you deal with this every day. Yeah, see, this is.
Danny Austin
And here's the thing.
Jordan
Like, it was so easy when I could just deflect onto you and just be like, yeah, she's mean.
Danny Austin
And here's.
Jordan
I'm funny.
Danny Austin
Like, here's the thing. People hate me.
Jordan
I know.
Danny Austin
Like, burning passion.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny Austin
See, I think people that call you kooky don't hate you. And then they're just like, yeah, he's a little kooky.
Jordan
Little out there. I've. I mean, would some say eccentric? Because I. That's a title I will accept. I've been working hard for that title.
Danny Austin
Yeah, I like eccentric. But I will say, if you can ever learn to just accept it and be like, I'm hated. It's so freeing.
Jordan
See, I'm like, I'm not at that stage of my recovery. I'm like, I want to isolate and I want to egg their house. Like, that's how I feel.
Danny Austin
I would egg their house with you, babe, because you're my man. But. But no, there's just, like, this peace whenever you're just like. Or if you're like, yeah, I am the kooky husband, you know, it feels so good to just be like.
Jordan
I think males have a much more fragile ego than females, though.
Danny Austin
Yeah, for sure. Sure, for sure.
Jordan
For sure.
Danny Austin
Men are so funny. They're so, like. It's just like. They're a bunch of little. Like, I just think of you guys as, like, little china dolls. Yeah, like, just little china. Like, pieces of china that are just so fragile. Like, you know, when you enter, like, an antique store and you're so scared. Like, you have to be so sensitive with them and, like, just touch them. Exactly right? Like. Or it's just gonna.
Jordan
I. I think that men probably feel the same way about females, too.
Danny Austin
And you know what? It's always, like, the most menly manly men that have, like, the most fragile egos.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure.
Danny Austin
Funny.
Jordan
For sure. Like, me. I'm.
Danny Austin
You know, how's your ego doing after last week when I called you, you know.
Jordan
Oh, the D word. No, I've kind of, like, accepted that. I was like, okay, yeah, you know, there's that mode. Let's stay out of that mode.
Danny Austin
Let's not go there.
Jordan
It's not good. Honestly, my ego is, like, really, like, recovering right now from this. Kooky comments. I'm not gonna lie. It's okay. I'm just like, wait. I thought our neighbors, like, I. I really thought I had my reputation in this neighborhood figured out. No, I think I was the. I was the funny one.
Danny Austin
No, you definitely are the funny one. But, babe, like, our neighbors don't love us. Don't worry if you're a neighbor. Listening to this. We have been looking at new homes, so just find peace in the fact that we might not be here long term. The real estate market is picking up. We are trying to get out of here. Not because we don't love you guys, honestly, it's because we want to have a fourth child and we need more space. But. But don't worry. Find peace in that.
Jordan
Yeah. It's not that I don't love our neighbors or hate our neighbors. I just. I know. I do love our neighbors.
Danny Austin
I know. I love everybody, too.
Jordan
Yeah. Love thy neighbor as thyself. But right now, I hate myself, and so do I hate my neighbors. Okay. I'm kidding. What else is going on?
Danny Austin
I. Last time we went to our marriage counselor, our therapist brought up their attachment style. Have you heard of attachment styles?
Jordan
Yeah, there's, like, Anxious Avoider.
Danny Austin
So you have heard of them? I had never heard of them.
Jordan
You know? Yeah, I heard about him from one of our friends who was talking about it, but I forgot got here.
Danny Austin
So there's four different types of attachment styles, and I've been reading a lot about them, and I want to see if you can identify what I am and what you are.
Jordan
Okay.
Danny Austin
So attachment styles are basically how people emotionally connect with each other, how they emotionally connect in relationships. This typically develops. Your attachment style typically is influenced by the way that you were raised, for sure, how you were taken care of as a child. So there's four kinds. You have secure attachment, you have anxious attachment, you have avoidant attachment, and then fearful avoidant attachment. So secure attachment is, like, the healthiest of them all. That means that you have healthy and stable relationships. It means you're comfortable with intimacy. You're comfortable with being independent. You trust people. You're emotionally available. You communicate well. You have healthy boundaries.
Jordan
Question. Can you change styles?
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
Oh, you can evolve.
Danny Austin
Yeah. It's not like the Enneagram where, like, you are one. Yeah. And I think that you can change styles and, like, be, like, in this one for one season, this one for another. So typically, people that have secure attachment styles, they are raised in a very consistent and receptive, responsive, caregiving home. So then you have anxious attachment. Okay, so this is when someone is a little clingy. They're kind of insecure. They fear of abandonment. They need reassurance. They're highly emotional. They're needy. I know you are. I was gonna see if you could catch it.
Jordan
It's not my fault. It's how I was raised.
Danny Austin
They overanalyze their partner's actions. They struggle with self worth.
Jordan
Yeah, this little kooky.
Danny Austin
Not always. Because I don't want to blame any of, like, our parents here, but this can sometimes happen when the parents are either neglectful or inconsistent parenting. So.
Jordan
Okay, to be clear, my parents weren't either of those things.
Danny Austin
But, yeah, we. We love our parents. We're not here to talk about our parents. But this is just what the book says.
Jordan
Says.
Danny Austin
Okay. Okay. So then there's avoidant attachment. This person is distant and independent. They prefer emotional distance. They value self reliance. They're uncomfortable with closeness.
Jordan
And this is Danny.
Danny Austin
They avoid. Wait, hold on. They avoid deep connections. They are typically raised by emotionally unavailable or dismissive parents.
Jordan
Not your parents.
Danny Austin
But do you think that I am uncomfortable with closeness? And I. But here, let me read the last one so that you can get the. Okay, so then the last one is fearful. Avoidant. Which means that they are disorganized and send mixed signals. They. Sorry, I can't read my handwriting. Crazy.
Jordan
Is that my notebook?
Danny Austin
Yeah, I have no. This word. Looks like I wrote crayley on intimacy. Oh, okay. Okay. So they crave intimacy, but they also fear it. They push people, and then they pull people in. They have emotional highs and lows. They switch between clingy and distant, and they have a hard time trusting. Typically, this comes from some type of trauma or inconsistency with caregiving.
Jordan
We're the middle two.
Danny Austin
You think so? I You don't think I'm fearful, but you don't think that I'm disorganized. Like I'm. I send mixed signals. You think I just am emotionally distant. I value self reliance and I'm uncomfortable with closeness and I avoid deep connections.
Jordan
I think that you are evolving out of that, but I think that that is your natural attachment style.
Danny Austin
Okay, okay, I totally agree. Isn't it so funny that like.
Jordan
And I'm evolving out of mine?
Danny Austin
Yes, yes. That's why I stage five clinger. Such a stage five cleaner. Oh my God. Because I'll be like, I love you.
Jordan
I just love you.
Danny Austin
Oh my God. You were such a clinger on. Was it Sunday?
Jordan
Oh, yeah. I was overcompensating because I had been really distant and I was like, I'm gonna swing this pendulum back.
Danny Austin
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jordan
And I went stage five clinger.
Danny Austin
You went stage likely. You're like, I couldn't walk into a room without being like, just mauled by assaulted essentially. Okay. It was sweet because I know that you care, but. Yeah. Isn't it funny that like we're opposite attachment styles yet we're together? Like, do you think that.
Jordan
Isn't that the whole thing is like, I thought the worst. What is yours called?
Danny Austin
Mine's avoidant attachment.
Jordan
Yeah, I've heard that. Avoidant. Two, avoidant attachment people are really, really bad. And then two. What is mine called?
Danny Austin
Anxious.
Jordan
Anxious attachment. It's just catastrophe.
Danny Austin
Oh, I could see that.
Jordan
It's like two codependent people being married to each other. It's just wrecking ball for.
Danny Austin
So I, I wrote some key takeaways that I've personally been working on that I thought they could be helpful for both of us and maybe for some of the people listening. So my thing is when I don't like my feelings or communicating or just sitting with like sitting in something, I withdraw. I'm like a withdrawer. I shut down Jordan. And I could be communicating, talking about something. And if I don't like the way I'm feeling, I kind of like go inward and I turn into this little ball and I sometimes even, sometimes I even envision myself like, like an egg where everything's just like bouncing off of me. Like.
Jordan
Oh, it's like a survival instinct.
Danny Austin
Yeah, Like I just am like, I go inward and I'm like self protect and it's like I go into a little ball and I just think of all these things just like bouncing off of me. And sometimes I will actively start telling myself a story while the other person is talking so that you're doing. Yeah. So like I said, are you here? No, I'm actually not. But I don't want to interrupt you because I don't want to start, like, World War Three. And, like, I don't want to escalate. So I go. I just tell myself, let them just keep going. And I'll be like, so today the sun is out, and later on, I'm going to organize my closet and just don't listen to what they're saying, Danny. Just let it bounce. Just let it bounce. And I just, like, literally, I try to put my mind into a different place. So I'm withdrawing, and I'm like, you and Jordan talk for hours. I mean, this guy could just go on and on and on. And he speaks so eloquently and beautifully, and it just goes. But then after a certain. It's like. It's like, what's Charlie Brown? The teacher. That's like. Like, that's me. So. So what I've been telling myself lately is, danny, get back out there. Like, get your. Get like. Like, put your head up and. And fight. Like, you know, push through.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny Austin
And so I have to get myself back in the game. We almost.
Jordan
We almost. So one of our marriage counseling sessions, Danny did her little egg thing, and she shut down, and she left me with these two marriage counselors.
Danny Austin
We had to have two.
Jordan
That's how serious it was for 30 minutes. And then 30 minutes go by, and I'm, like, talking, and I'm, like, trying to work it out, and they're challenging me, and I was like, whoa, whoa. Why is no one talking to Danny? She shut down 30 minutes ago, and you guys are just mauling me over here. And she did her egg thing, and she was in her little egg, and she was like, today, sunny outside, and I'm just getting hammered. In this session, you put yourself in that position, and then, you know, that's how you justified it. You were like, well, he put himself in this position. So it's sunny outside, and I'm gonna clean my closet. And then I'm just, like, fighting for my life in here.
Danny Austin
Yeah, but you could have tapped out and been like, hey, Danny, I know. Where are you at?
Jordan
I know.
Danny Austin
We have to stop blaming other people for.
Jordan
I don't blame. I don't blame.
Danny Austin
Okay, so. So instead of withdrawing, learn to express our needs. So put our. Like, put your head back out. Get out of the egg. Crack yourself out of the little egg like a little dinosaur and get back out there. And fight number two, sit with discomfort and, and learn how to cope.
Jordan
This is. Sorry, these are all. If you're, you're a anxious avoider, this.
Danny Austin
Is just how to have better, healthier attachment styles in general. No matter which one you are. This is what I need to do to get myself into the secure attachment style. Sit with discomfort and learn how to cope with those feelings instead of trying to fix things in the moment. Jordan, how do you cope with your feelings when you're feeling uncomfortable?
Jordan
I, I, I, I usually don't feel uncomfortable with my feelings. I think I try and talk it out.
Danny Austin
Jordan. That's what it's saying. It's saying sometimes you need to be sit and discuss discomfort and learn how to cope instead of trying to talk it out when your wife is not in the mood to talk it out.
Jordan
Oh, okay. Sorry. I was missing the context of this conversation. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Yes, yes, yes. If Danny is feeling her feelings, I need to be okay with how that makes me feel, and I need to.
Danny Austin
How do you sit with it and.
Jordan
Cope and sit with it? And I just say, hey, Danny, I know I can tell you don't want to really talk right now. I'm here if you want me or if you want to talk. For now, I'm going to give you some space, but.
Danny Austin
Okay, but what I'm saying is, Jordan, you usually feel anxious when you say that because then, then you're in your head like, oh, my gosh, she hates me. Oh, my gosh. Like, I'm the worst. So how do you deal with those negative things that you're telling yourself in that moment?
Jordan
I say I'm awesome. I am nice. I am good. I'm a good guy. Okay, I'm sorry, babe. Listen, listen. We've been in recovery mode for, like, three months. Can we just.
Danny Austin
I'll tell people what I do.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny Austin
Okay.
Jordan
You take it away.
Danny Austin
Okay, so papa's tired. So if I was going to have to sit with uncomfortable feelings, like, let's just say Jordan is really mad at me. And he's like, hey, I can't talk right now. I'm going to never happen.
Jordan
I would always talk about it immediately. I would be like, I'm so mad right now. Let's talk about it for three hours.
Danny Austin
Well, let's just pretend because you know me. Like, sometimes I'm the one that's like, I don't want to talk about this right now. I need a minute to process. Then I like the puzzle. I like to go on A walk I like to call a friend. Just talk it out. Journal, pray, listen to music.
Jordan
You're. The whole point you're making is that you don't have to process it out or talk it out at the moment. You can go do other things that divert your anger away.
Danny Austin
Yes. Because I think a lot of times people try to push through these. These conversations. When you're in the red, you're seeing red. You're, like, so emotionally aggravated that you're never gonna get to, like, a point of peace because you're so emotionally, like, angry. And I can never see clearly when I'm angry. I don't know about you, but, like, my emotions, like, when I'm emotional, like, I.
Jordan
It's so weird when I'm angry. When I'm angry, I feel like I'm saying things actually more clear than ever. But then it always. Yeah, no, it's for sure the problem, because then I come out of it and I calm down. I was like, it's silly. No, I mean, the repercussions are just so bad.
Danny Austin
It's not worth it.
Jordan
So bad.
Danny Austin
So not worth it. Number three, choose emotionally safe people. So, like, this is a big one, because I feel like back in your 20s, you feel like you have to be friends with everyone, and you feel like you have to have a ton of friends. But what I Learned in my 30s is that, first of all, I don't need that many friends. Number one. Number two is, like, I can be picky as all get out when it comes to the people that I surround myself with. Like, I don't. I used to be so insecure that I felt like when I went to a party, I had to talk to, like, the most popular people there. Like, I had. I was such that girl. Like, I just wanted to be a part of the cool group, you know? And I never really felt, like, that comfortable with them. I just would push and push because I'd be like, this is what's gonna make me important. This is what's gonna make me valuable. As if I'm friends with the cool girls. And, like, I so don't feel that anymore. And I don't feel like I have to try as much. Like, I'm like, I can go sit in the corner at this party with these two other people and just be totally content and at peace with who I am and at peace with, like, this. These people and how they influence me in my life than, like, trying so hard. So just choose emotionally safe people.
Jordan
Yeah. You know, are we emotionally safe, though? Like, because we were anxious avoiders. And what was mine again?
Danny Austin
Anxious attachment. And I'm so what?
Jordan
What? I'm what? I guess what I'm saying. I guess in your 30s, you can choose emotionally stable people, but, like, so much of our journey together was, like, evolving out of our emotional instability, Right? Yeah, I mean, like, we had to, like, we had to grow out of our anxious attachment styles.
Danny Austin
Yeah. That's probably. That's why people probably didn't think that we were that healthy to be friends with.
Jordan
That's another hit to the ego. So we're kooky and we're bad friends. That's all I'm hearing today.
Danny Austin
No, I mean, I don't think we're bad friends. I think that, you know, it's like, people know whenever you don't have your priorities right, you know, and there's very few people that you and I would probably take advice from. Right. Because, like, for a lot of years, we kind of thought that we had it all figured out, but we didn't.
Jordan
No, we didn't all.
Danny Austin
We didn't. And so it's so special when you can surround yourself with people that you respect and you would take advice from. And, like, I think we're now at a posture where, like, we would do that. We would, like, be able to be like, you have to have this humility. Humility to you to, like, see, like, okay, we don't know it all, and we're willing to, like, have people speak into us. But yeah, I don't think that we were those people for others, for sure.
Jordan
Yeah, no, that's. That's true.
Danny Austin
Maybe just in a business sense. I think people came to us for business advice all the time.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny Austin
Because they knew that was what we prioritized. Sad. They never were like, tell me how to parent your children. Oh, it's hard.
Jordan
So hard.
Danny Austin
Yeah, we're the worst.
Jordan
Kooky, bad friend. Worst people.
Danny Austin
Okay. Last thing I'm going to say is healthy love is stable, not chaotic.
Jordan
So true.
Danny Austin
Stability in your relationships is so important. You shouldn't be going through chaos in relationships every week and so much drama. You know, I have a very stable relationship with is Ellie. In fact, we were on our walk the other day, and I was going to say something so mean about another friend, and I didn't. And I was like, you know what, Ellie? And I was like, never mind. I'm not gonna say it. It was mean. And she goes, good for you. Most of my other friends, if I would have said that, they'd be like, Just tell me. What are you gonna say? Tell me. Tell me. And she was like, good. Don't tell me. I don't want to know. Like, that is so healthy. Like, because when we talk shit, like, we both.
Jordan
Sorry, Danny freaking Austin.
Danny Austin
Sorry.
Jordan
She's kooky. She cusses. She's the worst friend. She's the worst person.
Danny Austin
Send her to the country club. So. But yeah, it's just. It's really.
Jordan
This is what happens when people are rejected from country clubs. They go off the deep end. They just give up. They just give up.
Danny Austin
We're really in the deep end. We weren't even rejected to the country club. We didn't even apply. But anyway, we don't belong. We don't belong. So, yeah, I've been working on those things. Not just in our marriage, but in other relationships, too.
Jordan
Sorry. I mean, it's just like, I. I can't do this today. The plane ride and then the. The healing and the, like, there's just the kooky. The kooky comment. There's. There's like black ooze coming out of me right now. I mean, it's clearly trauma in my body. I get it.
Danny Austin
I want to move on to something that makes you go. Did you hear about what Southwest is doing?
Jordan
No.
Danny Austin
So. Which is funny because your dad works for Southwest.
Jordan
I know, but he's. He's like, gonna retire soon.
Danny Austin
So Southwest is taking away the free checked bags. But apparently there's still the airline known for allowing two free checked bags when you purchase a ticket. Announced on Tuesday that they will be ending their free checked bag policy in May. Starting May 28, only Southwest most elite Rapid Rewards a list preferred members, who's their CEO and passengers who book their top tier business select fares will receive two free checked bags. Frequent Flyer a list members, Southwest branded credit card holders and other select customers will be allowed one checked bag. Everyone else will be charged for their first and second checked bags on flights booked on or after May 28th. The carrier says it's a break with Southwest's 54 year history, one that could undermine customer loyalty to the carrier. According to experts, the announcement came as the company is facing pressure from investors to improve their financial margins. Man, isn't there any other way they could improve their financial margins? The airline will offer to move from open seating to seat assignments. What? And sell extra legroom seats for an additional fee next year. What? Then why is this even Southwest anymore? It's not even going to be the same airline. Also announced Tuesday are changes to Southwest Rapid Rewards frequent frequent flyer program. Increasing the point points flyers get for booking higher price business select fares while reducing the points earned on less expensive want to get away and Want to.
Jordan
Get away plus fares, Man.
Danny Austin
Oh, my God.
Jordan
Bob Jordan, that's their CEO.
Danny Austin
Never trust a man with two first names.
Jordan
I. And one is my name with the name Jordan. So you kind of look like me. I might not be seeing clearly these days.
Danny Austin
You literally have the same hair.
Jordan
I know. I was like. I was like, is this man me?
Danny Austin
I mean, this man's, like, probably 65.
Jordan
Yeah. I saw myself in him.
Danny Austin
I know. Oh, my gosh. And the hooded eyelids and the thick eyebrows.
Jordan
What's a hooded eyelid?
Danny Austin
It's just like when your eyes kind of go over a little bit.
Jordan
Excuse me.
Danny Austin
Sorry. Don't worry about it. It's fine.
Jordan
I am just questioning everything. I'm kooky, I cuss, I'm a bad friend. I'm the worst person, and I have hooded eyelids.
Danny Austin
Oh, my gosh, babe. And your attachment style is anxious.
Jordan
I'm an anxious, anxious attachment with little self esteem and plummeting by the second.
Danny Austin
That's.
Jordan
Yeah. So, Bob, Jordan, listen, we're talking to you right now. Herb Keller, the founder of Southwest, would be rolling in his grave right now knowing that you gave up two bags fly free. What is your company built on at this point?
Danny Austin
I will say if they still have that free change fee. That's a big fee thing.
Jordan
Danny. Don't make excuses. Do not.
Danny Austin
You know, I was a Southwest ambassador two years ago.
Jordan
Yes, I was there with you. I am aware.
Danny Austin
I was one of the first Southwest ambassadors ever. I was on the inaugural flight to Turks and Caicos. Thank you very much.
Jordan
I know. And honestly, when they cut your contract, they really started going downhill, if I'm being honest. And I think it's without your voice speaking into the company. As a ambassador.
Danny Austin
No.
Jordan
For 3 million Southwest girlies.
Danny Austin
No, I think that that is literally. They need me. They need me.
Jordan
Bob.
Danny Austin
Bob. Call me.
Jordan
Come on. Come on. This podcast.
Danny Austin
I'm in Dallas.
Jordan
Bring Dick on.
Danny Austin
Bring. No, sorry, that's Richard.
Jordan
Richard, Dick.
Danny Austin
I have my own Dick.
Jordan
I thought Bob. Bob. Sorry, I thought Bob was short for.
Danny Austin
But Dick is short for Richard. No.
Jordan
Yeah, yeah, but his name's Bob. His name's not Richard.
Danny Austin
Have you met a guy named Dick lately? What a. Sorry, your name is Dick, but that's a hard one.
Jordan
It's a tough one. You would think that when it was adopted into the younger generation vernacular, people would have really swayed away from It.
Danny Austin
What are your take on this? As a Southwest fan, I'm not gonna lie. We haven't been flying Southwest as much, mainly because we, like, started flying other places. We started flying American.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny Austin
And they're the worst.
Jordan
Yeah. And they really. Yeah, they're. They kind of just like, kick you like a dog, and you just keep coming back to America.
Danny Austin
That's why we tried to fly these other little, smaller planes, because American just is rough on us.
Jordan
To be honest, I feel like this is what a lot of things in your DM said. All air travel is actually very dangerous right now. Like, there's commercial planes are crashing. Like, private planes are crashing. You know, it's kind of just a weird time to be flying in the air.
Danny Austin
Here's the thing. As of March 14, 2025, the number of aviation accidents this year is lower compared to the same period in 2024.
Jordan
Okay, so it's just algorithm.
Danny Austin
According to the data from the National Transportation Safety Board, there have been 99 aviation accidents in 2025, with 63 occurring in January and 36 in February. In contrast, 2024 recorded 1417 aviation crashes, with 80 in January and 93 three in February.
Jordan
What is that, Wikipedia?
Danny Austin
However, despite the decrease. It's chat. GPT. I looked this up last night because I was curious. However, despite the decrease in total accidents, the number of fatalities has increased. In the first two months of 2025, there have been 14 fatal crashes, 10 in January and four in February, resulting in a higher death toll compared to the same period in 2024. So it seems like there's. There's, like, the same amount of plane crashes. But I just. Honestly, I wonder if our algorithms are just smarter and, like.
Jordan
No, I mean, I feel like. I feel like people are talking about it more now.
Danny Austin
That's what I'm saying. The algorithms are smarter, so people are talking about it more. Like, I. I feel like because the algorithm algorithms are smarter now, we hear about one, and then it. It informs us about the five other ones. So the algorithms are really just feeding us more of what we're. We're hearing faster than maybe they were two or three years ago. I mean, it adds up if you think about it. I start breastfeeding. My whole algorithm is breastfeeding. My whole algorithm was not breastfeeding three months ago. It is just. All I see on Instagram is breastfeeding, breastfeeding babies, newborn tips, breast. Like, it's all. It's everywhere. And so that's just kind of like my world right now.
Jordan
Well, let me Tell you something, if my algorithm keeps serving me plane crashes, I'mma be back at on site because that's going to be pretty traumatic for me.
Danny Austin
Yeah, I mean, for sure. But like, I don't know. So it is interesting when you look at the statistics and actually wonder if it's more. But I will say it seems like there's been more commercial plane error and in crashes in commercial flights, which is always really scary.
Jordan
Well, I mean, listen, we'll still fly commercial flights, but ain't no way I'm putting my butt on a Southwest seat until Bob comes around on this policy, because this is bullcrap. This is not the ethos of Southwest. And how dare. How. How dare he? Who does this man think he is?
Danny Austin
Babe, here's the thing. We've always been like a list preferred though, because we fly it so much.
Jordan
But I'm not for myself. I'm for everyone.
Danny Austin
Okay, okay, Mr. Governor. You're just trying to prime everyone for your political career.
Jordan
Just trying to get out of this.
Danny Austin
I. I am curious, as founders and CEOs, do you think that this was the right move from a non CEO? It seems like a rash decision that is resulting in backfire. Here's the thing. As founders and business owners, I feel for them. I deeply do. What else are they going to cut back on? Like, it's hard. It's hard out there. If their margins are. Are struggling. You gotta do something. Sorry, people. Yeah, no thoughts.
Jordan
I was just thinking about it holistically. Maybe they shouldn't have tried to fly to Hawaii in Turks and Caicos.
Danny Austin
That's a.
Jordan
Maybe their expansion, really? They could have just been happy here, profitable here.
Danny Austin
Just do it.
Jordan
They got a little too big for their britches, maybe.
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
Hey, when that happens and they got.
Danny Austin
What can Divi learn from this?
Jordan
Some would say greedy. This would be like.
Danny Austin
It'd be like us trying to go to 10, 10 other retailers right now when we should just really nourish, nurture.
Jordan
The retailers we have with Ulta. Yeah.
Danny Austin
And Amazon Fun.
Jordan
Or it'd be like us being like, we can also do skin care, you know?
Danny Austin
No, because that would be like Southwest being like, no. We can also do trucks.
Jordan
That's true, that's true.
Danny Austin
They're just. They're still flying, but I don't know.
Jordan
We'll have Bob on to the podcast and get some insight.
Danny Austin
Okay. Ready?
Jordan
Yes.
Danny Austin
Segment number two, things that make you go. There is a new Texas bill that would allow voters to decide on daylight savings time this week. Our clocks spring forward an hour for daylight savings time. And while it's lighter for longer, it can be an adjustment for everyone, especially if you have kids. That's so true. Salah's like, why are we going to bed when it's light outside?
Jordan
So true.
Danny Austin
Well, after much discussion nationally on whether Daylight savings is actually necessary or not, Texan is moving to let voters decide on whether it stays or goes.
Jordan
So hold up. We're going to have a different time in Texas than everywhere else. That is so Texas. And I'm all about it.
Danny Austin
Yeah. Yeah.
Jordan
I'm so all about.
Danny Austin
We're like. We're. We'll meet at five o'clock, Texas time.
Jordan
That's like. That's like the people who are like, Texas needs to secede.
Danny Austin
Yeah.
Jordan
You know, like, Texas be its own country.
Danny Austin
That would be crazy. Do people still want that?
Jordan
No, I don't hear about as much anymore.
Danny Austin
Yeah, that was like a big thing for a while. It was a big thing. Okay.
Jordan
Under Obama.
Danny Austin
Dumb question.
Jordan
It's true. That was when people thought it was true.
Danny Austin
Oh, yeah, I remember. Dumb question. Why do we have daylight savings?
Jordan
No, that's not a dumb question. I was actually hoping you weren't going to ask me that, because I had no idea.
Danny Austin
Let me ask. ChatGPT light savings time. DST was originally introduced to make better use of daylight during the longer days of summer. The idea was that by shifting the clocks forward, people would have more daylight in the evening, reducing the need for artificial lighting and saving energy. It was first widely used during World War I and 2 to conserve energy for war efforts. Over time, its purpose shifted, but the idea of saving energy remained. Nowadays, though, the energy savings are debated, and some argue the disruption to our schedules and health might outweigh the benefits. Does that clear it up? Totally. Thank you.
Jordan
Wow.
Danny Austin
That's like.
Jordan
Okay, okay, stop.
Danny Austin
Okay.
Jordan
So. Okay, turn her off. I don't want to hear her voice again.
Danny Austin
Sorry.
Jordan
My gosh, she's so spicy today, huh? I mean, the Greatest Generation invented it. World War I.
Danny Austin
World War I. Yeah. What generation do we call. What are they?
Jordan
The Greatest Generation.
Danny Austin
Yeah, that's what they're called.
Jordan
Yeah. The Greatest Generation. Oh, right. Yeah. So look it up.
Danny Austin
There's not. There's boomers, there's Gen Z, there's millennials, and then there's the Greatest Generation.
Jordan
Well, it's. No, no. Like, it's gin something. But they are referred to as the Greatest Generation because of World War I and 2.
Danny Austin
Okay, they can have that with World War II. They can definitely have.
Jordan
Look it up. Make sure I'm wrong. I'm not wrong. Yeah.
Danny Austin
Okay. So.
Jordan
Phew.
Danny Austin
1927, though.
Jordan
That would be kooky and stupid.
Danny Austin
But wait, I think that was just. What was World War II. Yeah. So that was just World War I. The greatest generation.
Jordan
Yeah. That's. When this is a minute.
Danny Austin
That is fine.
Jordan
Yeah.
Danny Austin
So my point was. Oh. My question is, if you had to vote, would you vote to keep it or to.
Jordan
No, I'd get rid of it.
Danny Austin
Eradicate the.
Jordan
I'd eradicate it. Yeah. We can't play God, but I don't.
Danny Austin
Think God created time. Like, the time standard. Like, sorry, mind blown. No, I mean, like, time. Yes.
Jordan
Did God create time?
Danny Austin
No, but, like, the numbers that we associate with time.
Jordan
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Danny Austin
Britain's on level zero. Okay.
Jordan
I'm actually trying to figure out, like, what the question even is. The question is, do we not hop forward an hour?
Danny Austin
Yeah. Like, do we just, like.
Jordan
No, let's keep time the same.
Danny Austin
Okay.
Jordan
The. The earth can rotate at whatever it feels like doing, but, like, time should not shift.
Danny Austin
Okay.
Jordan
That's what I think.
Danny Austin
Shifting time is always a bad thing.
Jordan
It's a bad thing. It's. It's. It's playing God.
Danny Austin
I kind of like the daylight savings things concept.
Jordan
So you like going to bed when it's light outside?
Danny Austin
I like it. I love whenever everybody wakes up and we're like, oh, what time is it? Like, it's so funny.
Jordan
Yeah. Danny loves it because it's so funny to, like, wake up and be like, oh, what time is it?
Danny Austin
But it's so funny because I love it because it gives me an excuse to be, like, late, and I'm like, oops. Yeah.
Jordan
It's like June. And Danny's like, I'm so sorry, guys. This daylight savings things really throw me off.
Danny Austin
I love it because they're like, danny.
Jordan
It changed three months ago.
Danny Austin
The one thing I hate is consistency, and I just love that it throws a wrench in it. It's just like, let's just mix it up.
Jordan
Yeah. That is so freaking you.
Danny Austin
I know. I love it.
Jordan
That is so you. You're like, can we vote for more? Like, let's change it, like, four times a year. Just.
Danny Austin
I'm like, just change it.
Jordan
Just to really F up the economy.
Danny Austin
Just change it. Don't tell us. Like, let's just all show up.
Jordan
Just change it and don't tell us.
Danny Austin
Let's just see what happens.
Jordan
So stupid.
Danny Austin
I literally cry because I just realized how much I love it. It's Like a holiday.
Jordan
It's like a holiday for me. Well, Danny's going to be like one of those blue hair protesters outside Governor Abbott's office. Like, don't take away my daylight savings.
Danny Austin
It's everything. Like, it's like. It's just like you. Life is boring.
Jordan
This is so Daddy. So Daddy. She's like, eff it up every day. Like, just don't even tell me what time is. Like, let me just guess. So to be clear, you are pro daylight savings and you actually would say, thank you, man.
Danny Austin
Have another 100%.
Jordan
Okay, got it.
Danny Austin
I need it. It's. It's a holiday. I get it. It's critical for me.
Jordan
She loves to wake up and be like, oh, where am I? What time is it?
Danny Austin
It's so important.
Jordan
It's so important. It's so important. It's so important.
Danny Austin
Okay, let's end on a positive note with an addition of Chicken Soup for the Soul. We've already talked about things that we are grateful for, but I want to know something that you are looking forward to this. This week, this month, or in the future?
Jordan
I'm looking forward to going to the.
Danny Austin
Lake this weekend and making new friends.
Jordan
And making new friends.
Danny Austin
Same. I'm looking forward to that in the next daylight savings.
Jordan
It just changed.
Danny Austin
I know, but the next one.
Jordan
Okay, so you're not going to get more depressed when it goes darker earlier?
Danny Austin
No, I don't get depressed because it's change. And I never understood why people are like, oh, my God, I'm so depressed. It's dark outside. I'm like, guys, this is so exciting. It's so new. Like, everything is different. Like, you know, like everything is different than it was.
Jordan
You should have seen her during that eclipse. I mean, she about Peter pants. She was like, this is so different.
Danny Austin
Have you heard about the. The red moon that's going to be happening soon?
Jordan
No. What's that?
Danny Austin
Let me google it because I actually don't know, but I saw that there was like an article that the red moon coming to Texas.
Jordan
It's just coming to Texas. Do we vote on it?
Danny Austin
No, babe, I think it's special. I have heard that it's a specialist Texas thing. Maybe because of the time.
Jordan
Yeah, Texas. Yeah, you're right. This moon just showed up to Texas.
Danny Austin
It's called a blood moon and it's coming. Oh. Oh, my gosh. It happened today. We missed happened this morning. A total lunar eclipse, commonly referred to as the blood moon, occurred early this morning, March 14th. During such an event, the earth aligns directly between the sun and the moon, causing Earth's shadow to fall upon the moon and impact it with a reddish hue. In Texas, the eclipse began around 10:57pm on March 13, with totality the period when the Moon is entirely within Earth's Shadow, occurring between 1:26am and 2:31am Shoot.
Jordan
We were asleep because we. I mean, we could have woken up and been like, what time is it?
Danny Austin
Daylight savings. In North Texas, including Dallas, skies were mostly clear to partly cloudy, providing favorable viewing conditions. That's why. Yeah. So if you miss the event. The total lunar eclipse is visible from Texas on March 3, 2026. So everybody set your calendars.
Jordan
Or don't. Just to keep it interesting.
Danny Austin
Okay, we have got to go.
Jordan
We've got to go. We got to go.
Danny Austin
Okay. Well, we love you guys. Oh, what's the thing that we always say at the end of the podcast now? Did we make something up?
Jordan
We just said we were going to just end it, and it's funny.
Danny Austin
Oh, we said that we were going to ask our audience to. To give us one.
Jordan
Yeah, like, we're just going to be like, okay, bye.
Danny Austin
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Podcast Summary: "I Wanna Do You In The Car"
De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan
Episode: "I Wanna Do You In The Car"
Release Date: March 20, 2025
Hosts: Dani Austin & Jordan
Production: Dear Media
The episode opens with Dani and Jordan discussing a harrowing event that unfolded over the past week. Jordan shares his near-miss experience with a plane crash involving their usual private aircraft.
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Following the traumatic event, Dani and Jordan delve into a deep and candid conversation about their marriage, personal insecurities, and growth over the past year.
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Dani and Jordan share their experiences dealing with negative perceptions in their local community, particularly focusing on an incident involving a country club membership dispute.
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Towards the episode's conclusion, Dani and Jordan shift to more casual and humorous topics, balancing the earlier heavy discussions.
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In this episode of De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan, the hosts navigate through a spectrum of emotions and topics, from surviving a plane crash and introspecting on their marriage to handling community conflicts and enjoying light-hearted banter. Their genuine and unfiltered conversations offer listeners a deep dive into personal resilience, relationship dynamics, and the everyday humor that accompanies life’s unpredictable journey.
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