Podcast Summary: De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan
Episode: Love, Chaos, and the Hot/Crazy Scale Explained
Hosts: Dani Austin & Jordan
Date: November 6, 2025
Podcast Network: Dear Media
Episode Overview
In this episode, Dani and Jordan return to their signature unfiltered banter, tackling a mix of pop culture, gender dynamics, and family life. They open with reflections on societal discussions about masculinity, jump into candid confessions about life with four kids, and give their take on dating, reality TV (“Love is Blind”), and the infamous “hot/crazy scale.” As always, they share personal stories and rib each other throughout, blending humor with genuine insights on relationships, parenting, and modern expectations.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Masculinity & The “Emasculated Men” Podcast Debate
- Dani discusses listening to an episode of the "Modern Wisdom" podcast about "emasculated men" and expresses mixed feelings about the topic.
- She highlights how the pendulum has swung toward prioritizing women and expresses both empathy and frustration toward male-centric complaints.
“Oh my God. Like, literally, we just started being able to vote, and, like, don't get me wrong, I get it... But they felt so validated talking about it together. And I was just like, no.” — Dani, [01:36]
- Dani critiques men’s lack of a “safe space” to discuss struggles, but is quick to joke about her own feminist leanings, especially after four pregnancies in five years.
“There's really not. Like, you just need to be quiet.” — Dani (on male safe spaces), [04:24]
- Jordan plays devil’s advocate, questioning where men are allowed to land between “too wussy” and “too masculine,” while Dani argues women’s issues still need prioritization.
“It gives you guys the ick when men try and talk about their feelings.” — Jordan, [04:39]
2. Parenting: Gender Dynamics, Pregnancy, and Family Life
- The conversation shifts to current struggles, with Dani discussing the challenges of multiple pregnancies and parenting young kids, including the mental and physical toll.
“You'll never understand. It's so hard. It's so hard. Like, sorry. Crying. I'm like, yeah, it's really tough.” — Dani, [07:19]
- They joke about surprise pregnancies—sharing a story of a couple who got pregnant after a vasectomy. Dani and Jordan laugh about their own “miracle babies” and share candidly about failed contraception methods.
“It was funny because I actually started the story, and I was like, yeah, man. We were using condoms and, like, turns out there's a failure rate. And he was like, well, I have one better. I had a vasectomy.” — Jordan, [20:39]
- Dani hints she’s not “closed off” to a fifth baby—prompting mock panic from Jordan.
3. Kids, Boundaries, and Socialization
- They talk about their children's personalities, the chaos of feeding kids and managing sibling dynamics, and anecdotes from everyday parenting—like kids roughhousing and wrestling.
“Do you realize that he literally thinks you are the coolest person in the world right now?” — Dani, about Jordan wrestling with their kids, [28:13]
- Discussion on resilience and not overprotecting their children, with Dani emphasizing the growth that comes from adversity, even if it’s just learning how to deal with being hit at preschool.
4. Family History & The Importance of Memory
- The couple discusses the recent endeavor of taking family photos, and why those photos are important—often leading into genealogical rabbit holes.
“So that's why it's really important to take Christmas photos. So that in three generations from now, they'll look back at us...” — Dani, [44:08]
- They recount a story about finding long-lost family through an old photograph, connecting with relatives via Instagram DMs.
5. Pop Culture Catch-Up: “Love is Blind” and Reality TV Casting
- Dani teases Jordan about people comparing him to a contestant on the new season of "Love is Blind."
- They critique the US casting decisions compared to the UK version, noting the “cringe” and unpredictability of the show’s outcomes.
“The UK version, there's always like a bunch of hotties... the US version, it’s a bunch of crazies.” — Dani, [48:05]
“I feel for these people. I feel like they didn't really have good compatible options.” — Dani, [48:32]
6. The Hot/Crazy Scale Explained
- The latter half dives into the infamous “hot/crazy scale”—explaining the chart and how men supposedly evaluate dating prospects.
“So this is. You have crazy across the Y axis, hot across the X.” — Jordan, [56:21]
- Dani is both amused and critical, highlighting absurdities in both the “scale” and the inherent gender double standards.
“No, you're just being naive. If you're going nine crazy... you're just dumb. Like, you're gonna end up with a girl that's gonna leave you or cheat on you or spend all your money.” — Dani, [57:20]
- They muse on the different standards for men and women, using Jay-Z and Beyoncé as an example.
7. Looks, Status, and Social Climbing
- Candid talk about the role of looks, “pretty privilege,” and how social groups or wealth can elevate someone’s perceived desirability.
“If you, if you meet that person at the Fiji House and you know they're part of this social group, you're like, that's an 8 for sure. If you meet that person totally at a bus stop, it's like you're a four.” — Jordan, [64:28]
- Dani confesses to being the “4 who hustled” and believes hard work is the best way to “bump yourself up.”
“So if you’re a four working at McDonald’s, then you become the manager... then you move on and start your own franchise.” — Dani, [69:41]
- There’s a lighthearted but honest exchange about confidence, humility, and what really makes someone attractive long-term.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Modern Masculinity:
- “It gives you guys the ick when men try and talk about their feelings. But then... you can't be too wussy and you can't be too masculine... So what's this middle ground?” — Jordan, [04:39]
- “I just think that we can talk about it, acknowledge how hard it's been for some females and also acknowledge how it is hard [for men]... but... they're just like, kind of complaining like a bunch of wussies.” — Dani, [03:29]
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On Parenting Chaos:
- “Feeding kids is basically a full time job. You spend all this time cooking something healthy, and then they look at it like it's poison.” — Dani, [13:30, Ad Read but relatable]
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On the Hot/Crazy Scale:
- “It’s like you can be a certain level of hot and crazy and still be... okay.” — Dani, [56:03]
- “4-10 is like a boring Highland Park trophy wife... boring.” — Jordan, [58:51]
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On Reality TV:
- “So I guess my question for you is, is love blind?” — Dani, [50:02]
- “No. Absolutely not.” — Both, [50:05]
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On Social Status:
- “You can be a 4 in a corporate office and be the hottest girl.” — Jordan, [70:08]
- “Just work smarter, not harder.” — Dani, [70:51]
Timestamps for Key Segments
- [00:00–07:10] Masculinity, feminism, and cultural pendulum swings
- [07:47–13:00] Parenting, family structure, and Dani’s evolving feminist stance
- [19:06–24:20] Pregnancy, contraception, and surprise baby stories
- [24:31–31:45] Kids’ personalities and roughhousing; building resilience
- [38:06–45:41] Family history, photos, and connecting with distant relatives
- [46:50–48:48] Pop culture: “Love is Blind” casting and dating show critique
- [55:41–59:04] The “Hot/Crazy Scale” breakdown
- [64:03–72:16] Looks, social climbing, and “pretty privilege”
- [72:16–78:10] Confidence, humility, and the long-term realities of love and relationships
- [78:10–end] Quick wrap-up, tease next episode (“Horse Frank and Jelly Roll” news)
Tone and Style
Dani and Jordan keep the conversation energetic, honest, and playful. Dani leans into self-deprecating humor, while Jordan maintains a dry, observational wit. Personal anecdotes punctuate the commentary, making serious topics more accessible.
Final Thoughts
This episode delivers a blend of cultural commentary, real-life confessions, and entertaining pop analysis. It’s both a window into Dani and Jordan’s candid marriage and a humorous reflection on the quirks of modern relationships. For listeners, it’s an engaging hour of laughter, solidarity, and the occasional eye roll—especially when confronting the strange science behind how we all find love.