Love, Chaos, and the Hot/Crazy Scale Explained

Summary

Podcast Summary: De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan

Episode: Love, Chaos, and the Hot/Crazy Scale Explained
Hosts: Dani Austin & Jordan
Date: November 6, 2025
Podcast Network: Dear Media

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dani and Jordan return to their signature unfiltered banter, tackling a mix of pop culture, gender dynamics, and family life. They open with reflections on societal discussions about masculinity, jump into candid confessions about life with four kids, and give their take on dating, reality TV (“Love is Blind”), and the infamous “hot/crazy scale.” As always, they share personal stories and rib each other throughout, blending humor with genuine insights on relationships, parenting, and modern expectations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Masculinity & The “Emasculated Men” Podcast Debate

• Dani discusses listening to an episode of the "Modern Wisdom" podcast about "emasculated men" and expresses mixed feelings about the topic.
• She highlights how the pendulum has swung toward prioritizing women and expresses both empathy and frustration toward male-centric complaints.

“Oh my God. Like, literally, we just started being able to vote, and, like, don't get me wrong, I get it... But they felt so validated talking about it together. And I was just like, no.” — Dani, [01:36]

• Dani critiques men’s lack of a “safe space” to discuss struggles, but is quick to joke about her own feminist leanings, especially after four pregnancies in five years.

“There's really not. Like, you just need to be quiet.” — Dani (on male safe spaces), [04:24]

• Jordan plays devil’s advocate, questioning where men are allowed to land between “too wussy” and “too masculine,” while Dani argues women’s issues still need prioritization.

“It gives you guys the ick when men try and talk about their feelings.” — Jordan, [04:39]

2. Parenting: Gender Dynamics, Pregnancy, and Family Life

• The conversation shifts to current struggles, with Dani discussing the challenges of multiple pregnancies and parenting young kids, including the mental and physical toll.

“You'll never understand. It's so hard. It's so hard. Like, sorry. Crying. I'm like, yeah, it's really tough.” — Dani, [07:19]

• They joke about surprise pregnancies—sharing a story of a couple who got pregnant after a vasectomy. Dani and Jordan laugh about their own “miracle babies” and share candidly about failed contraception methods.

“It was funny because I actually started the story, and I was like, yeah, man. We were using condoms and, like, turns out there's a failure rate. And he was like, well, I have one better. I had a vasectomy.” — Jordan, [20:39]

• Dani hints she’s not “closed off” to a fifth baby—prompting mock panic from Jordan.

3. Kids, Boundaries, and Socialization

• They talk about their children's personalities, the chaos of feeding kids and managing sibling dynamics, and anecdotes from everyday parenting—like kids roughhousing and wrestling.

“Do you realize that he literally thinks you are the coolest person in the world right now?” — Dani, about Jordan wrestling with their kids, [28:13]

• Discussion on resilience and not overprotecting their children, with Dani emphasizing the growth that comes from adversity, even if it’s just learning how to deal with being hit at preschool.

4. Family History & The Importance of Memory

• The couple discusses the recent endeavor of taking family photos, and why those photos are important—often leading into genealogical rabbit holes.

“So that's why it's really important to take Christmas photos. So that in three generations from now, they'll look back at us...” — Dani, [44:08]

• They recount a story about finding long-lost family through an old photograph, connecting with relatives via Instagram DMs.

5. Pop Culture Catch-Up: “Love is Blind” and Reality TV Casting

• Dani teases Jordan about people comparing him to a contestant on the new season of "Love is Blind."
• They critique the US casting decisions compared to the UK version, noting the “cringe” and unpredictability of the show’s outcomes.

“The UK version, there's always like a bunch of hotties... the US version, it’s a bunch of crazies.” — Dani, [48:05]

“I feel for these people. I feel like they didn't really have good compatible options.” — Dani, [48:32]

6. The Hot/Crazy Scale Explained

• The latter half dives into the infamous “hot/crazy scale”—explaining the chart and how men supposedly evaluate dating prospects.

“So this is. You have crazy across the Y axis, hot across the X.” — Jordan, [56:21]

• Dani is both amused and critical, highlighting absurdities in both the “scale” and the inherent gender double standards.

“No, you're just being naive. If you're going nine crazy... you're just dumb. Like, you're gonna end up with a girl that's gonna leave you or cheat on you or spend all your money.” — Dani, [57:20]

• They muse on the different standards for men and women, using Jay-Z and Beyoncé as an example.

7. Looks, Status, and Social Climbing

• Candid talk about the role of looks, “pretty privilege,” and how social groups or wealth can elevate someone’s perceived desirability.

“If you, if you meet that person at the Fiji House and you know they're part of this social group, you're like, that's an 8 for sure. If you meet that person totally at a bus stop, it's like you're a four.” — Jordan, [64:28]

• Dani confesses to being the “4 who hustled” and believes hard work is the best way to “bump yourself up.”

“So if you’re a four working at McDonald’s, then you become the manager... then you move on and start your own franchise.” — Dani, [69:41]

• There’s a lighthearted but honest exchange about confidence, humility, and what really makes someone attractive long-term.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Modern Masculinity:

  • “It gives you guys the ick when men try and talk about their feelings. But then... you can't be too wussy and you can't be too masculine... So what's this middle ground?” — Jordan, [04:39]
  • “I just think that we can talk about it, acknowledge how hard it's been for some females and also acknowledge how it is hard [for men]... but... they're just like, kind of complaining like a bunch of wussies.” — Dani, [03:29]

• On Parenting Chaos:

  • “Feeding kids is basically a full time job. You spend all this time cooking something healthy, and then they look at it like it's poison.” — Dani, [13:30, Ad Read but relatable]

• On the Hot/Crazy Scale:

  • “It’s like you can be a certain level of hot and crazy and still be... okay.” — Dani, [56:03]
  • “4-10 is like a boring Highland Park trophy wife... boring.” — Jordan, [58:51]

• On Reality TV:

  • “So I guess my question for you is, is love blind?” — Dani, [50:02]
  • “No. Absolutely not.” — Both, [50:05]

• On Social Status:

  • “You can be a 4 in a corporate office and be the hottest girl.” — Jordan, [70:08]
  • “Just work smarter, not harder.” — Dani, [70:51]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:00–07:10] Masculinity, feminism, and cultural pendulum swings
• [07:47–13:00] Parenting, family structure, and Dani’s evolving feminist stance
• [19:06–24:20] Pregnancy, contraception, and surprise baby stories
• [24:31–31:45] Kids’ personalities and roughhousing; building resilience
• [38:06–45:41] Family history, photos, and connecting with distant relatives
• [46:50–48:48] Pop culture: “Love is Blind” casting and dating show critique
• [55:41–59:04] The “Hot/Crazy Scale” breakdown
• [64:03–72:16] Looks, social climbing, and “pretty privilege”
• [72:16–78:10] Confidence, humility, and the long-term realities of love and relationships
• [78:10–end] Quick wrap-up, tease next episode (“Horse Frank and Jelly Roll” news)

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Tone and Style

Dani and Jordan keep the conversation energetic, honest, and playful. Dani leans into self-deprecating humor, while Jordan maintains a dry, observational wit. Personal anecdotes punctuate the commentary, making serious topics more accessible.

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Final Thoughts

This episode delivers a blend of cultural commentary, real-life confessions, and entertaining pop analysis. It’s both a window into Dani and Jordan’s candid marriage and a humorous reflection on the quirks of modern relationships. For listeners, it’s an engaging hour of laughter, solidarity, and the occasional eye roll—especially when confronting the strange science behind how we all find love.

Transcript

[Dani Austin]

Foreign. The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hello, and welcome back to your favorite podcast, D. Influence. Don't worry, he's back. Somebody left a comment this morning was like, danny, don't you ever take him away from. From us for three months ever again. Or I think it was two months.

[Jordan]

I took myself away.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, I did it. I know. I was like, wait, it was my fault. Also, always blame it on the female. Just kidding. Sorry. I listened to a podcast this morning about. Wait, let me read the title. Just because I have to admit, like, hold on. It was modern webs, Modern wisdom. Like, you know, one of my faves. And the podcast was called how to fix the Culture of Emasculated Men, which I was like, oh, like, okay, interesting. Like, literally, world smallest violin when I was listening. And, like, you know, I have three sons. And so, like, I. Of course, I'm like, yes. Like, men stand up and lead and be amazing. Like, you know, I'm. I'm like, I'm, like, a feminist in a very, like, conservative way when it comes to feminism.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

Like, I'm all about, like, working and leading and all this stuff, except I don't think that a female should be president.

[Jordan]

Yeah, we talked about that. But tbd, on whether you get.

[Dani Austin]

It's just too emotional. Like, you know, if you watch the movie that we talked about last week.

[Jordan]

You know, like, Putin's being such a douche right now.

[Dani Austin]

Like, just bomb him. Sorry, too much. But, like, oh, my gosh, this podcast, you know, just having two dudes talk about how men are just, like, so undervalued. I was like, oh, my God. Like, literally, we just started being able to vote, and, like, don't get me wrong, I. I get it. Like, I do get it. But this. The way that they were talking about it, I was just like. But they felt so validated talking about it together. And I was just like, no.

[Jordan]

So hold on. So the podcast was about emasculated men?

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, I didn't finish it, but culturally.

[Jordan]

Which is a thing.

[Dani Austin]

No, for sure.

[Jordan]

For sure thing.

[Dani Austin]

Like, I think we can talk about that without complaining about it.

[Jordan]

Sure. But what. What was their. What was their take on how men have been emasculated? Like, what were examples they're showing of emasculated men?

[Dani Austin]

Just that, like, the suicide rates are, like, like, so much higher for men.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

And, like, the ratio, like, basically, what's it called when you only choose a certain demo to get into a college?

[Jordan]

Oh, affirmative action. Yes.

[Dani Austin]

Yes. Like, for men is so much lower now. It's like, females are always prioritized. It's like the pendulum swung to, like, one side, and now men are, like, totally. It's, like, harder for them for a lot of things. Oh. Like, to start a company, to, like, be an entrepreneur. It's like, the odds against men are so much higher, and. And then they're like, you know, I just don't get it. Like, I don't get why, you know, we can talk about female mental health, but, like, we can't talk about male mental health. And I was like, well, maybe if you look at, like, the past 200 years, maybe you'll understand. Like, like. And I'm. You know, I'm not.

[Jordan]

So you're punishing us?

[Dani Austin]

No, I just, like, like, like, literally stop complaining. This is retribution, you know? You know, it's gonna take a while for the pendulum to swing back in the middle. And, like, I. I just think that we can talk about it, acknowledge, like, how hard it's been for some females and also acknowledge how it is hard. But, like, I don't know. They're just, like, kind of complaining like a bunch of wussies. And I was like, this isn't attractive. And you guys are acting emasculated. The way you're talking, you're, like, kind of. I don't know.

[Jordan]

Sounds like you're highlighting the problem, though.

[Dani Austin]

It was kind of giving me the ick.

[Jordan]

So what you're saying is they shouldn't have been talking about their feelings.

[Dani Austin]

No, I was just like, stop complaining about. Yes, like, complaining.

[Jordan]

This is. This is kind of what they're saying. They're like, where is the safe space other than this podcast to talk about our weaknesses and our feelings?

[Dani Austin]

There's really not. Like, you just need to be quiet.

[Jordan]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

[Dani Austin]

That's exactly what it is.

[Jordan]

I'm just. I'm trying to play a devil's advocate, and, like, this is kind of what they were saying. Like, it gives you.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, I'm definitely a hater. I'm a hater.

[Jordan]

It gives you guys the ick when men try and talk about their feelings. But then. But then you're also. I think society's also saying, like, you can't be this, like, brooding, like, you know, man, like, they've kind of, like, taken masculinity down a couple notches, so you can't be too wussy and you can't be too masculine. So I think it's kind of like, okay, well, like, what's this middle ground.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I think seems like a little bit of a moving target.

[Dani Austin]

It kind of feels like.

[Jordan]

Which you guys have had for years.

[Dani Austin]

Have had since the. Yeah. Since day one. And so I don't know, I just like, I get it, but I just feel like your time's not here yet.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Okay.

[Dani Austin]

The men. The male movement isn't. It's not here just yet. Like, I really think we need to figure out how to like, not tax tampons and just provide like better child care for moms and maybe figure out how to like, you know, be able to have a one income home so that moms can stay at home and raise their kids. Like, we can't even buy a house without the mom doing 18 things at once.

[Jordan]

Well, you had that and then you guys got all feminist.

[Dani Austin]

We never had that.

[Jordan]

You single. Single income homes. And then it was like, I'm a boss.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. Because why do you think that we had to do that? It's because we can't afford houses anymore. You can't afford anything. And so.

[Jordan]

Yeah, no, no, I agree. I agree there's. You have to do it now. But there was a time.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. But I don't think that, that, that, that time was pretty unhealthy. It was like you just, Susie, Betty, stay at home and make some. Some A cake when I get home at night and you just stay home and look pretty true. You know, that's also not what that was. That was pretty. Yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

It was not good.

[Dani Austin]

And then men just went out to work and like, just drank all day, you know, and like Danny's Mad Men.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Danny's understanding of that era, Donald Schaer. I'm telling you, this is just straight madman.

[Dani Austin]

Okay, you have to admit though, like, even within our families, like our grandparents, like goy my grandma, that was the culture. Like my grandpa was an alcoholic, left every day, sold cars, like literally gambled all of his money away and then go. We stayed at home and raised the kids and cooked.

[Jordan]

That's true.

[Dani Austin]

Like, that's so many people's stories.

[Jordan]

That's fair. Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

So I just, I get it. Don't get me wrong. I just, it's like, I just, it's. It's like we need to acknowledge both sides of the coin.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Let's let them in suffer for a little bit longer.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, I think so.

[Jordan]

A couple more decades. Just so they learn their lesson.

[Dani Austin]

Their lesson. Let us have a little. A few more Kendra Scotts pop up.

[Jordan]

Some more and then we'll give them a Mama bear hug.

[Dani Austin]

We'll give them a. So sorry. Now you know how it feels like, you know.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

And I'm also kind of in this, like, moment because I've also had four pregnancies in five years, and I'm like, you'll never understand. Like, you'll never understand. It's so hard. It's so hard. Like, sorry. Crying. I'm like, yeah, it's. It's really tough. And so I think I'm really, like, I'm leaning more feminists these days, but when my boys start to grow up, you know, and, like, my boys are, like, getting her.

[Jordan]

Feminism is, like, temporary in the sense that by Thursday, it'll be gone.

[Dani Austin]

So true. But it's not gone. It's just like, I'm not as aggressive.

[Jordan]

Yeah, you're not as aggressive.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You just really were triggered by these men complaining on this podcast. Next time I listen to two females complaining on a podcast, I'm gonna say, I am. It gives me the ick that these girls are just sitting here talking about their feelings. World's smallest violin.

[Dani Austin]

I know. But you know what's so funny? If you said that I, like, don't care.

[Jordan]

Oh, really?

[Dani Austin]

No.

[Jordan]

Oh, I'd get so much hate.

[Dani Austin]

But I don't care. Like, I don't care what you think. Like, we're gonna do it anyway, you know? Like, I'm like, no.

[Jordan]

Yeah, well, these guys are gonna do it anyway, too.

[Dani Austin]

Okay. Good for them.

[Jordan]

It just gives you the ick.

[Dani Austin]

Okay. Who cares?

[Jordan]

Okay. Do you think there's a problem with masculinity in culture?

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, for sure. No, that's why I listened to it. I was really interested in what they had to say, and I really. I do think that.

[Jordan]

Who is the guest?

[Dani Austin]

The guest was. Let me read the little synopsis.

[Jordan]

She's like, it's Joe Rogan.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. Oh, my God. So Scott Galloway is a professor of marketing at the.

[Jordan]

Oh, Scott Galloway was the guest at.

[Dani Austin]

The New York University Stern School of Business, a public speaker, entrepreneur, and an author. Why are so many young men struggling today? Oh, this was one that, like, really got me.

[Jordan]

I really don't like that guy.

[Dani Austin]

Okay. This is one that really got me. I think this is where it, like, set me over the edge. They were talking about dating, and they were saying something about, like, how hard it is for, like, men to date. And I was like, I wanted to jump through the screen and slap you. I mean, it is so much harder for females to date right now. Men have, like. Men have a bajillion choices, and they're on the apps, and they're just going from one to the next, and da, da, da. But then what they. They started talking about was, like, it's just, like, not fair because, like, you know, like, if Beyonce worked at McDonald's, like, Jay Z would still marry her, but if Jay z worked at McDonald's, like, Beyonce would have never married him.

[Jordan]

Okay, hold on. I see what they're saying. I see it.

[Dani Austin]

No, I get it, too.

[Jordan]

I get what they're saying.

[Dani Austin]

Like, it matters more. What? Men?

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, no female's gonna marry. Yeah, they're looking for much more from men than I think men maybe looking for from people.

[Dani Austin]

What's not fair is, like, what if you're a girl is not that cute anywhere? Can McDonald's. And that's what I'm saying. It's tough. It's tough out here. Like, it's. It's just. Well, that's where I would have been. So I'm like, I'm speaking for the rest of us. We don't all look like Beyonce.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Okay, then you're really in trouble. So what's the solution here?

[Dani Austin]

I don't know. I didn't listen to the whole thing because I had. I had quite the busy morning. I had to do my. My cat face this morning. Oh, yeah. Have you. Have we talked about that? The fact that I haven't.

[Jordan]

No, we haven't. I just thought we could do the whole podcast with you with cat face.

[Dani Austin]

Okay, so it's Halloween. I'm a cat today. Today this morning, I'm a conservative cat. Tonight, I'll be a sexy cat.

[Jordan]

Are you going to do Catwoman?

[Dani Austin]

Sexy kitten. Yeah. No, it's really not sexy. I'm pregnant in a bodysuit. Not that cute, but, yeah, I am gonna be a Catwoman. Bye.

[Jordan]

I just wondered if you were gonna.

[Dani Austin]

Hear looking at me, if you were.

[Jordan]

Gonna go with that one.

[Dani Austin]

The way you're looking at me, it's like it hurts you to look at me. It's like you're in pain looking at my face.

[Jordan]

I actually. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm actually just thinking about if you're gonna wear the Catwoman outfit, because every time you wear it, you. Your. Your crotch is pretty visible.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, you.

[Jordan]

Well, we. We discovered it in the video, and I was good.

[Dani Austin]

Wait, we did? You didn't tell me that.

[Jordan]

Yeah, no, you said it.

[Dani Austin]

No, I didn't.

[Jordan]

That's why I said, are you wearing sexy Catwoman? And then you were like, yeah. Are you gonna wear it tonight?

[Dani Austin]

I, I. Now, I know you don't want me to.

[Jordan]

No, I do want.

[Dani Austin]

You don't want me to. You know you don't want my crotch out. I know. I know not. And I. You know what, Jordan, I wish you would have said this probably 48 hours ago when I could have ordered something new, but, no, I did not realize that about my crotch. You did not say anything.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's going to be great.

[Dani Austin]

How bad was it? I need to look at the video.

[Jordan]

Watch the video.

[Dani Austin]

And I posted the video. Did anybody say anything?

[Jordan]

No.

[Dani Austin]

Wait, so you're. Oh, babe. No, honey, no, honey, I'm not wearing the dress one.

[Jordan]

Oh, no.

[Dani Austin]

I'm wearing the bodysuit one.

[Jordan]

I'm sorry. I. I was so confused because I was like, you knew that your crotch was out. I made so many jokes about.

[Dani Austin]

I thought you were talking camel toe.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dani Austin]

Crouch out.

[Jordan]

No.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, thank God. Because I. That's all I have to wear.

[Jordan]

No, I've never used those words in my life.

[Dani Austin]

Well, you said crotch out because I knew you didn't want to use the CT word.

[Jordan]

No, no, no, you're good, you're good.

[Dani Austin]

Okay.

[Jordan]

I was wondering how we got on two different pages there.

[Dani Austin]

Now I know. Me, too. And I was like, why are you just now telling me this?

[Jordan]

No, that it was your anger from the podcast.

[Dani Austin]

From the feminism podcast.

[Jordan]

Yeah. You're already having this energy, like, of like, like men right now. And I was like, oh, man.

[Dani Austin]

Maybe that's, you know, I'm just, like, putting on a frown.

[Jordan]

I know, I know you love me. Yeah, you.

[Dani Austin]

You're the perfect man. You're not emasculated or too feminine.

[Jordan]

Correct.

[Dani Austin]

Or too masculine.

[Jordan]

Too masculine or too feminine.

[Dani Austin]

Emasculated. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, like this one. No.

[Jordan]

Yeah. That one is your. Your crotch.

[Dani Austin]

That's the one you were talking about.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dani Austin]

No, babe, on this one.

[Jordan]

The other one's. That one's for Cabo. That one's for tonight.

[Dani Austin]

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[Dani Austin]

This is only the fourth time.

[Jordan]

You don't remember someone had said that the third trimester was hard, but I thought we were good until the baby Came. And then there would be a little bit of postpartum stuff.

[Dani Austin]

So what happened?

[Jordan]

I thought we were in the clear for the rest of the time.

[Dani Austin]

So we're technically in the clear when it comes to, like, the, like, depression, the sleeping all the time, the exhaustion. But what happens is you get so big that your body hurts.

[Jordan]

Got it.

[Dani Austin]

So then you're just exhausted because, like, you're literally just, like, moving a 40 pounds heavier than you usually are.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Dani Austin]

So if you can imagine putting on 40 pounds of weight right now, like, think about how differently you would move through the day. Yeah, but it's like, mentally, you're still good.

[Jordan]

The blues are gone.

[Dani Austin]

The blues are gone. But then you're just also, like, at the end of every day, you're like, please rub my feet. Like, rub my back. Like, I'm hurting. So right now, I'm not really hurting because I've only gained. Whatever I've gained, you know, I'm not, like, totally there yet.

[Jordan]

Yeah. We went to dinner with another couple who also got surprise. Pregnant with their fourth.

[Dani Austin]

So you tell them what happened?

[Jordan]

Yes. And I was like, we literally went to dinner with them because they had the exact same age kids, and also surprise. Got pregnant.

[Dani Austin]

So just so y' all know.

[Jordan]

With their fourth.

[Dani Austin]

What. How I met her is she DM'd me and was like, I have. I'm gonna have four kids under five, too. And I was like, hey, do y' all want to be friends? You want to go to dinner? Like, so just so you know, like, I meet friends all the time for my DMs, or, like, out and about, like, because people that typically follow me are very normal people. Like, they're just, like, average, like, you know, normal. And so. But it was crazy. So when I replied to her, found out that her husband used to be my neighbor, but he was, like, seven years older, so I never knew him.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

So anyway, like, I was like, okay, they're, like, super normal because, like, they. You know. So we went to dinner with them, and I had no idea, like, she just was pregnant with her fourth. She has kids the same exact age as me, as our. As our kids, and. But I didn't know their story. I was like, you know, it's crazy that we're pregnant. It's crazy. Whatever. We found out at dinner that he had had a vasectomy and still got pregnant. They said it is a.05% chance. It's 1 in 50,000.

[Jordan]

Yeah. No, I. It was funny because I actually started the story, and I was like, yeah, man. We were using condoms and, like, turns out there's a failure rate. And he was like, well, I have one better. I had a vasectomy. And I go. And he. I had a panic attack. I was like, that was my solution. What do you mean you got pregnant with a vasectomy? And he was like, yeah. What happened was I got it and then apparently can reattach. And so he was like, I went back to the doctor. And the doctor was like, ah, bummer. He was like, I'll do it for free if you want me to do it again. And I was like, don't go to that doctor. Give me that doctor's name. And I will never go to that doctor.

[Dani Austin]

But I think sometimes you just can't help it.

[Jordan]

You can't. Yeah, maybe you can't help it, but I. I cannot imagine. I thought we were shocked. I cannot imagine the shock that they felt.

[Dani Austin]

No, because she also got pregnant. She got pregnant when I think her one year old. So, like, she was probably like seven or eight months postpartum, like when she got pregnant with her fourth. And I think. And we were like, four months postpartum. Doesn't matter. No matter what. Like, if you're not planning it, it's going to be shocking, you know. And so, yeah, we were. But, like, also, there's a really small percentage that happens with. With condoms. So we're both kind of like. They're. Both of our babies are like, kind of like miracle babies.

[Jordan]

Miracle babies. Like, just us sitting here playing God.

[Dani Austin]

No, but do you remember how, like, somebody prophesied over me to my mom when I was really little and said I was going to be a mother to many.

[Jordan]

I know. My greatest fear is that the vasectomies.

[Dani Austin]

Of the cottoness will never work for you.

[Jordan]

I was really thinking about this last night, and I almost had this. I had this, like, intrusive thought, and I almost told you it, but then I didn't. And the intrusive thought was, all of our kids were watching a show and it was calm in the house, and we have three, so we don't have our fourth yet. And my intrusive thought was, I was like, maybe we should have a fifth. And then I was like, no. But then I was like, but then if I get a vasectomy, that doesn't work, so, like, where can I escape?

[Dani Austin]

You can't.

[Jordan]

You can't escape. Like. Like, I'd have to get you a chastity belt or something. Like, there's no. There's no escaping.

[Dani Austin]

Okay. Tmi, but I think the pull out method works best.

[Jordan]

It.

[Dani Austin]

That's the only thing that's ever worked for us.

[Jordan]

It's possible it's just less fun.

[Dani Austin]

I know, I know. Anyway, I do think that, like, I'm actually not closed off to a fifth baby. It's just. I would. I wouldn't. Wait. Can you just stop for a second? Just like, wait. Like, take a deep breath. I haven't finished my sentence.

[Jordan]

I know, but it's just.

[Dani Austin]

Look up, look up. Get back. Get your head back in the game.

[Jordan]

Genuinely creates panic.

[Dani Austin]

No, I know, but just take a deep breath. In through the nose, out through the mouth. Okay. Not anytime soon. I'm saying two or three years down the road, maybe I'm 35, 36. And I'm like, let's just throw one more in there. But all the other kids are so old that we don't have to worry about nobody choking except for the newborn.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

It's a totally different thing. And then, like, the other older kids are like, you got them figured out. They're, like, on their carpool schedules. They're like, they're in their after school activities. They're all kind of settled.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

And then you add in a baby. I can see myself doing that.

[Jordan]

I do think I still am going to get the vasectomy.

[Dani Austin]

That's okay.

[Jordan]

I think I'm gonna get the vasectomy. And then I'm gonna use condoms as well.

[Dani Austin]

And we'll do the method and I'll track myself.

[Jordan]

The triple. The triple threat trio.

[Dani Austin]

I'll check my cycle too, because that one actually is super reliable. Like, very reliable.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

So we just. We're gonna kill it all.

[Jordan]

Okay. All right.

[Dani Austin]

Don't be scared.

[Jordan]

Deal.

[Dani Austin]

Don't be scared. Yeah. So I went. Did I talk about why my face was like this? I can't remember.

[Jordan]

No, it's Halloween.

[Dani Austin]

Pregnancy brain. No, I had trick or treat with the kids.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Dani Austin]

Our kids are getting to this age that, like, I always wondered if there was something wrong with us as parents. But, like, when our kids were like two or three, when we left the house, they were like, bye. Like, peace. Like, see, I didn't really miss us, like, never cried, y'. All. The. When we left for that date night with that couple. I have never seen Stella act like this before. I mean, you would have thought that.

[Jordan]

She was like, that you were going to war.

[Dani Austin]

Like I was going to war. Or she was being tortured. Like, it. She level like our. Our nanny that was watching her when we went to dinner. We Also went to dinner at 7:30, so it was like bedtime anyway.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

And when we left, I mean, she was ballistic. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen.

[Jordan]

The.

[Dani Austin]

She was like, don't leave mommy. Don't leave mommy. Like, screaming from, like, her ins. It was horrific. And then we left finally. Because, you know, they say the best thing to do, like, when that happens is just like, we, like, get it over with. And then Jordan, we get to the car and it's like, oh, I forgot my keys inside. I'm like, oh, my gosh, we have to do this all over again. So he goes back inside. I was like, this is the one time that you forget your keys.

[Jordan]

That is so true.

[Dani Austin]

But that same thing happened today at Trunk or Treat when I went to see Stella and Stratton. Like, I saw Stella first, and when I saw. When I said bye to her, she was like, cool. You know, she was with Evangeline and, like, her. Her friends. And then when I said bye to Stratton and, I mean, he went ballistic. The teacher had to, like, pry him off of me. And, you know, like, there's part of you that's like, I'm such a badass mom. Like, they love me so much, but then there's also a part of me that's like. It's so, so sad.

[Jordan]

Did you talk to. I don't want to say his name. Did you talk to him?

[Dani Austin]

Oh, no, I don't know all the stories with that kid.

[Jordan]

Well, he hit Stratton. You gotta talk to him.

[Dani Austin]

He's like three.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Every. Every morning.

[Dani Austin]

Stratton says, does he hit him? Just Stratton or hit.

[Jordan]

Oh, I talked to the teacher. Apparently. Apparently hitting everyone.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, that's the thing.

[Jordan]

It just.

[Dani Austin]

You know what, babe? It's good for them.

[Jordan]

It's. It's good for.

[Dani Austin]

It's good for shredding. Like, he's gotta learn how to. First of all, he's taking Jiu Jitsu.

[Jordan]

So, like, well taken, Judas. It's. That's a stretch. Daddy is bear crawling and Stratton is watching.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, yeah, I'm.

[Jordan]

I'm taking Jiu Jitsu with five year olds, and I'm hoping that Stratton comes and emulates.

[Dani Austin]

No, it's. It's good. We always talk about this adversity, and hard things are good for our children. We cannot protect them. And I'm not going to be the mom that goes up there. I'm gonna say, Stratton, you have a little talk with Pete.

[Jordan]

You punch him back.

[Dani Austin]

No, you do. Honestly, you know, it's like, that's what I did. No, I just hit it for the basketball court.

[Jordan]

I know he's playing, but he has started punching me in the face, and I feel like we need to talk about it.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, yeah. Nope. No punching the face, like, ever.

[Jordan]

No. Like, it's.

[Dani Austin]

The private parts in the face are not okay. Ever.

[Jordan]

No, I know we. We've tried to have conversations, but when he puts on Spider man, he just. He thinks he's Spider man and he genuinely closed fist.

[Dani Austin]

They will punch you.

[Jordan]

Like, dual fist. One, two, punch in the face.

[Dani Austin]

Pretty good, though.

[Jordan]

No, I. Honestly, that's why I don't really stop him immediately. I'm like, that's pretty good.

[Dani Austin]

Like, beat me up.

[Jordan]

Like, good job, bud.

[Dani Austin]

Do you realize, like, the. So they. They basically do, like, rough time almost every day now, and Stratton will put on a superhero costume and, like, just be, like, rough drum and, like, just charge after Jordan. Like, do you realize that he literally thinks you are the coolest person in the world right now?

[Jordan]

I know.

[Dani Austin]

Like, when you get to play with your dad, and your dad, like, flips you on the bed and, like, thrashes you down, you're like, my dad is so strong. Like, my dad is such a big man. And, like, my dad will protect everyone. He's basically Batman.

[Jordan]

Like, yeah.

[Dani Austin]

You know how cool he thinks you are right now.

[Jordan]

It is so crazy, though. Like, you know, because I wrestle with Stella in Stratton, and Stella's like, she's big now. Like, yes.

[Dani Austin]

It's like you push her and you're, like, kind of scared about, like, her head jerking, you know?

[Jordan]

Well, no, I'm saying, like, when they both start wailing on me, like, they kind of got me. And when I have three boys that are going to be like, 7 to 10. Like, I know, like, I need to start bulking. Like, they're going to. They're going to jack me up.

[Dani Austin]

I know it's crazy, but that'll be something sweet for y' all to do is work out together.

[Jordan]

I know. I don't think you can. I don't think you can start working out until you're. Until after 13, though. I feel like I read that, Jordan.

[Dani Austin]

You can work out when you're three.

[Jordan]

Like, lift weights.

[Dani Austin]

No, but, like, take them to the park and do push ups.

[Jordan]

I mean. No, I mean that stuff. But what I'm saying is, like, that weights. But no, they can't.

[Dani Austin]

But, babe, you're not gonna go. Like, that's Gonna be way down the road. Like, you need to take them to the park and, like, do races and, like, jumping stuff and sports.

[Jordan]

And Stella was driving her little pink car.

[Dani Austin]

It always gives me a heart attack when Stella's behind the wheel.

[Jordan]

No, she. I mean, she is reckless.

[Dani Austin]

It's so scary.

[Jordan]

She's reckless as a driver.

[Dani Austin]

Thinks it's like a four wheeler.

[Jordan]

Yeah, she's reckless, but she. We. I mean, we drove it for probably, like half a mile and Stratton just ran next to her for a half a mile straight. Like, I actually think that he's scared.

[Dani Austin]

To get in the car with her.

[Jordan]

He's got the VO2. He's got the Danny VO2. Two max.

[Dani Austin]

I can see it.

[Jordan]

I don't think I have it.

[Dani Austin]

No, you don't for sure, but. But I love you. But he probably has, like. Yeah, I think he has my VO2 Max. But he has, like, your limbs, whatever that is.

[Jordan]

That's true.

[Dani Austin]

He runs like. Like floppy. And then Stella's out there running and she's like. She's got, like, perfect form. Gosh, it's funny.

[Jordan]

Summits the athlete.

[Dani Austin]

I don't know what. I can't figure out someone's personality. I really can't. Like, I can't. I could tell what Sailor was when she was born. Serious. I could tell what Stratton was born when he. Or what he was when he was born. Goofy. Summit. And. And y', all, Stratton also is not. He's not only goofy. He is the sweetest boy.

[Jordan]

Yeah. He's so kind in the world.

[Dani Austin]

He's like, anytime that. That Stella is crying because she wants something, Stratton will like, like, literally give you the shirt off of his back just to make you happy. Because he doesn't like when people are upset. But he also is like the kid that's like, when we're punishing him and we're like, strand, like, don't touch that. The table again. Like, don't touch. Whatever. And he'll just look at you and be like. And touch it and be like, like. And he just, like, laughs and then we laugh because it's, like, so silly. Like, it's. He's not doing anything harmful. He's just trying to, like, be goofy. Summit. I. I can't figure him out.

[Jordan]

I think he's probably an in between.

[Dani Austin]

I think he's more like Stella.

[Jordan]

I. If he's leaning one way, I think he's more like Stella. But he's also very happy. He's always smiling, always laughing.

[Dani Austin]

Stella never smiled.

[Jordan]

No, Stella never smiled.

[Dani Austin]

She was a very angry baby.

[Jordan]

Very angry. Very serious.

[Dani Austin]

Very serious baby. Oh, she used to say scare me it.

[Jordan]

But they are. They just are who they are. It's the craziest thing.

[Dani Austin]

That's why I love it.

[Jordan]

I love it.

[Dani Austin]

You can only gain like, you can only like take so much responsibility.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And you just, you got to increase your odds. You got to have as many as you can because couple of them are not going to like you.

[Dani Austin]

Totally. And a couple might be kind of weird. Just kidding.

[Jordan]

Oh, that's funny.

[Dani Austin]

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[Jordan]

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[Dani Austin]

We took our Christmas card photos.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that was, that was tough.

[Dani Austin]

That was yesterday. We did two outfits. I was super ambitious. But I want to talk about Christmas card photos. Like, how do we feel about them these days? Not asking you, sorry, but like, just the world. Like, because I know what you're gonna say. You're gonna be like, absolutely. Every time we took a photo. And I'd be like, do we get it? And he's like, well, the good news is if we didn't get it, we've archived every single moment of our kids lives on video. I'm like, yeah, but that's different, babe. And so Jordan like doesn't understand. He's like, he's like, you film literally everything of our children.

[Jordan]

No, I know, I know. This is an important, you know, thing for you and females.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, I mean it is going to be an important thing for you too. Like even the fact that we look back at your parents photos and I mean we found those pictures. We found cousins from Abolito. You need to you tell them what happened there?

[Jordan]

I actually don't really know. Will you tell them what happened?

[Dani Austin]

Okay, so we went to, we're kind of going off track from the Christmas.

[Jordan]

We'll go, we'll, we'll, we'll circle back. Yeah. To the importance of pictures. Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. This is actually crazy. So I'm just like mending families left and right over here. I mean it's wild. So I go to Jordan's. We go to Jordan's parents house and we go upstairs and there's this photo I've never seen of like all of these. I mean, what year do you think that was? I mean the early like 1920. No.

[Jordan]

30S.

[Dani Austin]

When did they take the first photograph?

[Jordan]

No, that's, that's what, I don't want to sound stupid.

[Dani Austin]

I don't know, maybe I could say like 1930s.

[Jordan]

That was probably the 30s.

[Dani Austin]

Okay.

[Jordan]

If I had to guess.

[Dani Austin]

Okay, so let's just say 1930. So it's like of Jordan's great great grandfather or your great grandfather.

[Jordan]

That would be my. Hold on. That might be my great great grandfather.

[Dani Austin]

You and your dad like can't do like great grandfather, like family math.

[Jordan]

Well, it's my, it's my dad's great grandfather. My great.

[Dani Austin]

It's not your dad's great grandfather. It's your dad's grandfather.

[Jordan]

Okay, you're right.

[Dani Austin]

It's my, you great great grandfather would be so old. This is what they do. And every time. And then I asked Joel, I'm like, joel, who is that? And he's like, it's my grandma. Great great grandfather. I'm like, joel, no, it's not, I'm sorry, It's just not. They, they make up like new ones. And so let's just say I'm, I'm predicting just from the look of the photograph. Photograph, it is either your great grandfather because it's not your grandfather.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that is my, it's your great.

[Dani Austin]

Grandfather and your dad's. Grandfather. Okay, yes, settled. We're moving on.

[Jordan]

I think you're wrong, though, because that is my dad's dad's dad. That's what my dad said.

[Dani Austin]

No, it's not, babe. It's not. It's your dad.

[Jordan]

You're right, because that would be like, 18.

[Dani Austin]

That would be the great, great, great grandfather.

[Jordan]

You're right.

[Dani Austin]

It is your dad.

[Jordan]

Well, no, he was old in the photo, so he was probably born in the.

[Dani Austin]

The photo wasn't that old, babe. Okay. Anyway.

[Jordan]

Doesn't matter.

[Dani Austin]

It doesn't. Why are we talking? That's why I said case settled. Okay, so. Because it doesn't matter. Okay, so. So this is so crazy. So I'm like, just filming it, like on stories. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Who is it? And it says in the photo, like, it labels each man, and it's like, Abuelito Ramirez. This is why we also don't know, because it put Abuelito like Grandfather Ramirez, so. Which shows you that it's Joel's grandfather. So I was right. Anyway, okay, so. And there's all these other men, and I'm like, wow, that's your great grandfather. This is so crazy. Blah, blah. What? It was his name. He's from McAllen, Texas. Apparently, he was, like, a big, big name in McAllen, Texas. Apparently, he was, like, a womanizer. Horrible guy. Horrible guy.

[Jordan]

I didn't know you were gonna go there.

[Dani Austin]

Horrible guy. Like, it's okay. My.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, whatever.

[Dani Austin]

And so then, like, three days later, I'm scrolling through my DMs, and someone. Someone's like, danny, we're primos. And I'm like, what? She lives in McAllen, Texas? Or like, a lot of the family migrated to. Migrated. Moved to Austin, Texas. And she's like, my grandma has the same picture as you and sends us the picture. And she's like, the guy in the photo, his name is Manuel. Manuel or something. And he married my husband's great great grandmother. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And then she sent me all the pictures of, like, each of the relatives.

[Jordan]

Great, great grandmother.

[Dani Austin]

What does it matter, babe? And, oh, my gosh. And like, we both got. I asked Joel. I was like, do you know. Do you know a man well? And then this lady's like, like, we're all related all from that story. So I said, we need to have a family reunion. Yeah, I don't really want to get into, like, the logistics of a family tree, though. Well, okay, you do it.

[Jordan]

No, I'm not getting in. But what we did Find out. Was that my dad?

[Dani Austin]

Oh, yeah. This is what it is.

[Jordan]

My dad didn't know who that person was, which probably meant it was from.

[Dani Austin]

A second family, because he was that type of guy.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it was probably a second family different from my grandpa's lineage.

[Dani Austin]

So it's like, Joel, I'm finding your half sisters everywhere, kind of.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dani Austin]

That's why I'm just mending families left and right. Yeah.

[Jordan]

I mean, we can all still be friends. So long ago.

[Dani Austin]

I know.

[Jordan]

Forgive and forget.

[Dani Austin]

Forgive and forget. We're here, you know, it totally. I just. I really think we should have a family reunion.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean, that would be wild. What if. Yeah, it's funny. I was gonna say something.

[Dani Austin]

Okay. Anyway, so that's why it's really important to take Christmas photos. So that in three generations from now, they'll look back at us and be like, no, this is Keely Ramirez. No, it's Keely Austin. She never changed her last name.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

You know, and then they'll put all the. We really just need to take photos just for that one moment.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I think that family photos with four is going to be super interesting.

[Dani Austin]

Well, the good news is, is now with all the editing and AI, what she was telling me is, like, you just get one good one of each, and then you just swap the faces.

[Jordan]

That's.

[Dani Austin]

So it's, like, really not as stressful as we thought it was because we thought we had to get a photo, like, all looking, like, perfect. Yeah, we really don't.

[Jordan]

Dang.

[Dani Austin]

I've seen a lot of families just take photos, like, in neutrals, and then they're just like. They put in an AI and you're like, put us into Ralph Lauren inspired clothes. That's pretty sick.

[Jordan]

It's pretty sick. I know, man, people, the Christmas card game's about to get.

[Dani Austin]

I know. You guys better get ready for it. That's why I'm saying either adopt or die trying.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

With AI.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Don't push back.

[Dani Austin]

You're gonna have to get those. We're gonna be over here just, you know, using the AI for our photos, and you're gonna be over there slaving away trying to get all your kids to smile. So, yeah, last year I didn't do Christmas photos. It was just too much. And. But this year, I did feel like someone's just such a cute baby. I was like, it would be such a waste, you know?

[Jordan]

He really is the Gerber baby.

[Dani Austin]

He's a cutie. We've said that about all of Our kids, though. And I think every parent says that about their own child figured out.

[Jordan]

Keep going. I'll be right back. The. The air is on and it's blowing right on me. It's cold.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, my gosh. And then they say, why are men so emasculated these days? It's like he can't even finish a podcast because the air is blowing. Was. The air is blowing directly on me too. Just so y' all know. Yeah. So we did our Christmas card photos. We used a lady named Lindsay Dutton in Dallas. She's really great. Super chill. Like, you know, I'm. I'm pretty, like an uppity personality when we're doing pretty much anything. And she. I. So I work well with chill people because otherwise if you get two uppity. Two uppity girls in the room like me, like, I get. First of all, I get kind of annoyed. And so I'm like, can you calm down? Because I need to be the one that's uppity. So she just has great, great energy. We're going trick or treating tonight. What else is new with you?

[Jordan]

Batman. Superman, Baby Hulk. Catwoman.

[Dani Austin]

Okay, you're forgetting a child.

[Jordan]

Oh, yeah. Super. Superwoman.

[Dani Austin]

Supergirl.

[Jordan]

Supergirl. Supergirl.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. Don't ever forget we're a family of five.

[Jordan]

Family of five.

[Dani Austin]

Did you watch Love is Fine?

[Jordan]

I watched a little bit of it with you.

[Dani Austin]

What'd you think? You. You really hate that guy that you're always compared to.

[Jordan]

I don't.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, his name's Jordan too.

[Jordan]

Jordan. Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

People.

[Jordan]

I don't like him. Yeah, he just needs to chill, like.

[Dani Austin]

And then people always like, he. Jordan reminds me of the guy. I love his light and Jordan, like, gets like the biggest ick because he's like. Gets the biggest ick from Jordan. He's like, I look like he's got.

[Jordan]

Like the full leg tat and the full arm chat, but he just seems so stuck in his ways. But like, oh, see, kind of justified. Like, he's very self righteous to me.

[Dani Austin]

You think? I like, I liked him.

[Jordan]

You don't like him? No, I don't see the comparison.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, oh, the likes. Okay. Oh, thank you.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, he really needed that.

[Jordan]

I really needed that.

[Dani Austin]

He's been pretty stressed out.

[Jordan]

Well.

[Dani Austin]

Because I started watching both have brown eyes and you.

[Jordan]

Hair poofs. Yeah, I mean, like, he's got the.

[Dani Austin]

Hair poof and brown eyes.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Come on.

[Dani Austin]

Pale.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

Sorry.

[Jordan]

It's like, give me a break, guys.

[Dani Austin]

Like, you should have dressed up as him for Halloween.

[Jordan]

Did any of them actually work out?

[Dani Austin]

No, none of them did. I think this is the first season that none of them worked out. But I, I do have like a little. Is this on? It's on Netflix, right? I have a bone to pick with Netflix. They always do the UK version of Love is Blind and then they do the US version. In the US version, they always kind of cast like, weird people, in my opinion. The UK version, there's always like a bunch of hotties, like really cool people. Normal. Like, it just is like 50 is like pretty good looking and, like, has it all together. And the US version, it's a bunch of crazies. Like, it really has been, like, on, honestly since the beginning. The casting is so. Which I think is why it makes it so entertaining to watch. But, like, I don't know, it was. I, I feel for these people. I feel like they didn't really have good compatible options.

[Jordan]

Are they just trying to be more relatable in the US Version?

[Dani Austin]

I think so, yeah.

[Jordan]

You know, is it like that with the, what's the other show that they do? Love Island. Is it like the US version is more family.

[Dani Austin]

If you've ever watched Love island, they're just like, just gorgeous, hot people. Oh, just while you're on the, like, skimpy bikinis. Yeah.

[Jordan]

Okay. Got it.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. No, he's never watched.

[Jordan]

I've never watched.

[Dani Austin]

I've watched it one time and then I like, I, I'm sorry. I don't want to watch a bunch of hotties walk around in string bikinis. I mean, I do, but I don't, like, you know. Yeah, it just don't.

[Jordan]

It's hard to get into in this era of our life.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. And I'm like, really?

[Jordan]

Yeah. Like, go home.

[Dani Austin]

Like, go home.

[Jordan]

Like, go get married, have children and.

[Dani Austin]

Then, and then call me. And then put on that bikini and call me. Okay.

[Jordan]

You'll be back in it next year.

[Dani Austin]

It's okay.

[Jordan]

I'm giving myself Grace Summer 2027 or 2026.

[Dani Austin]

I can't wait till I have my hot mom era.

[Jordan]

Oh, it's coming. It's coming, it's coming.

[Dani Austin]

You guys better watch out. That's what I always say.

[Jordan]

Be careful. We're gonna get pregnant again.

[Dani Austin]

No. Please. No. Yeah. It was a weird season. I haven't watched the Reunion yet, but I guess my question for you is, is love blind?

[Jordan]

No.

[Dani Austin]

I know. Absolutely.

[Jordan]

No. No for any of them.

[Dani Austin]

Never.

[Jordan]

No. For sure. No.

[Dani Austin]

No. Absolutely not.

[Jordan]

I, I, Jordan and his person were probably the closest to working out. It felt Like.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. What was her name? Megan.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, Megan.

[Jordan]

Megan. We're probably the closest, it seemed like.

[Dani Austin]

And then she was like, you know what?

[Jordan]

She's like, no, I don't really want.

[Dani Austin]

To be a mom.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

But then she's a mom now.

[Jordan]

She's a mom now.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. But you know what? Like, a lot. No, I don't know who. I haven't watched Reunion yet, but she's pregnant. She had a baby. But, like, it's hard. It mad respect for her for, like, giant dipping out because, like, no one knows what they're signing up for.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

If you're not a mom and you marry somebody with kids, like, you can say, I'm ready and I'm this and I'm that, but you'll just never know. You'll never know until you do it. And it's a. You. You're putting a lot on the line. Like, you're gonna really affect, like, this child's life.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

If you go, it's. I. So I get why she. She backed out. She probably just knew. It was like, it's too much pressure. It's too much. Like, it's. Yeah. It's too much weight on the family and on herself. So, like, I just should dip out and, like, let him find someone that is for sure in that. Ready?

[Jordan]

But I don't think that a lot of people broke up because of looks, though. It was almost like they just got out of the pods and, like, into real life, and they were like, oh, this from a personality standpoint, like, this isn't gonna work. Right.

[Dani Austin]

Okay, but minus.

[Jordan]

Minus. Crazy blonde girl who broke up with the Asian guy.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, gosh.

[Jordan]

Yeah, she was crazy.

[Dani Austin]

She was crazy.

[Jordan]

But she was crazy in the pods.

[Dani Austin]

She was always crazy. She was like.

[Jordan]

He was just, like. He was like, this is so sick.

[Dani Austin]

And the things I want to make you happy.

[Jordan]

She was so.

[Dani Austin]

He was like.

[Jordan]

I was like, she was so crazy.

[Dani Austin]

But any guy that falls for that, like, you. You're.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah, you're.

[Dani Austin]

You're.

[Jordan]

You're playing with fire.

[Dani Austin]

You're playing with fire, and your discernment is off. So really, you asked for it, in my opinion, when he was like, yeah, I want to marry you, like, what else did you expect? Can you imagine if I said that stuff to you, like, on our first date? Like, oh, my gosh. Because you know what? You would wonder how many other men has she said that stuff to if she's just throwing that out?

[Jordan]

Like, I mean, I'm trying to think of.

[Dani Austin]

If you said, oh, Please don't tell me that it would have been a green flag.

[Jordan]

No, it for sure wouldn't have been a green flag. But I feel like guys can probably convince themselves it's a yellow flag and they're like, all right, you know, let me just see this one through. Like, like, let me give it a couple of weeks.

[Dani Austin]

This might be like a very generous person.

[Jordan]

Let's just see how it go. Is like, I'm awesome. She just sees it.

[Dani Austin]

I, like, can't believe that that's the way that men think. I'm like, if a girl is telling you on the first or second date that she wants to take care of you sexually and all she cares about is like, want to make sure that you're taken care of and you're this and that you're that, and I'm going to do this for you and I'm going to do. There is a problem there.

[Jordan]

Yeah, for sure.

[Dani Austin]

Why so much emphasis on the sex life?

[Jordan]

Listen, I'm, I'm just saying to you that yes, a stable, happily married man would be like, red flag. And I said it from the first time she spoke on the show. I was like, red flag. I'm just saying in your youth, before you are married and find a stable, loving wife to have four children with you, if you are in a bind or a pickle, then you can be, you can say, oh, maybe she just likes me. You know, maybe it just, you can convince yourself it's a yellow flag. You'll wake up, you'll wake up in like a week or two, probably, but.

[Dani Austin]

Because when you find out she's saying the same thing to eight other dudes. Because let's be real. Because no, no, no girl does that on the first date. Unless they are trying to use that to manipulate you to, to like them, which means that they're doing it to everybody else.

[Jordan]

No, what will happen is you'll be like, okay, that's a yellow flag. But she's saying that on national television and that's what she's saying in the pod. So let's say that's a yellow flag. When the cameras are off, you will see the red flags. Yeah, like, she is probably 10x more crazy behind the scenes.

[Dani Austin]

Well, I think that a lot of girls that don't have like a lot of.

[Jordan]

Wow.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, sorry, you took it there.

[Jordan]

Well, that's, that's usually.

[Dani Austin]

No, what I was gonna say, what I was gonna say is maybe it's from that, but they don't have like a lot of self esteem. Self Esteem, confidence. Like, but they're typically really pretty, and that's kind of like all they have to offer. They feel like they have to really emphasize that because they don't feel like any other part of them is special or going to be valued.

[Jordan]

That's so sad.

[Dani Austin]

I know.

[Jordan]

But then there was the other girl who's really pretty. The one that you said was a porn star.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. She ended up being amazing.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And then she was like your favorite.

[Dani Austin]

I loved her.

[Jordan]

And she didn't. She didn't seem.

[Dani Austin]

She's really pretty. She was gorgeous.

[Jordan]

She didn't seem crazy.

[Dani Austin]

No, she didn't at all. She was Natalie or she kind of had like a. Oh, my God. I can't remember her name, but she was so beautiful. And she was like a nurse. And come to find out she was set up with the crazy guy.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

So I don't know.

[Jordan]

This is. It's a dilemma.

[Dani Austin]

It's just a dilemma.

[Jordan]

The hot crazy scale is. Is tough.

[Dani Austin]

I know.

[Jordan]

It's like a. It's like a X and Y axis and it's. It's like hot crazy. Have you ever seen it? I'll show you the picture. Every man knows about this. Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

I don't know what this is.

[Jordan]

I'll show you. I'll show you.

[Dani Austin]

So it's like you can be a certain. Certain level of hot and crazy and still be. Okay.

[Jordan]

Hot crazy skill.

[Dani Austin]

Oh.

[Jordan]

Like, some of it's dateable, some of it's marriage material, and then some of it's like, run. Oh, there's a seven minute video on YouTube if you ever.

[Dani Austin]

I'm not gonna watch it.

[Jordan]

Look, here it is. So this is. So you have crazy across the. The y axis, hot across the X.

[Dani Austin]

Okay.

[Jordan]

So if you're a 4 on the hot scale.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Jordan]

And a 10 on the crazy scale. You're in the no go zone.

[Dani Austin]

Okay. Because you can't be ugly and crazy.

[Jordan]

Yes. If you're a seven on the hot scale.

[Dani Austin]

Okay.

[Jordan]

And a nine in the crazy scale, you're in the danger zone.

[Dani Austin]

It's like, questionable. I get that. I get this.

[Jordan]

If you're a seven on. Or an eight on the hot scale and a six on the crazy scale.

[Dani Austin]

If you're. Say it again.

[Jordan]

Eight on the hot scale. Six on the crazy scale.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, you're safe.

[Jordan]

Fun zone.

[Dani Austin]

It's safe.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yes. Fun zone.

[Dani Austin]

Okay.

[Jordan]

Nine hot. Oh, eight crazy.

[Dani Austin]

No, no.

[Jordan]

Date zone.

[Dani Austin]

Really?

[Jordan]

See it out. See, that's what I'm saying. You were like, no, it's not a red Flag. It might be a yellow.

[Dani Austin]

No, you're just being naive. If you're going nine crazy. No, eight crazy, nine hot. You're just. You're just dumb. Like, you're gonna end up with a girl that's gonna leave you or cheat on you or spend all your money.

[Jordan]

Well, that's why it's the date zone, because you'll figure that out. But it's technically by rule.

[Dani Austin]

Well, I'm just telling you, don't waste your time. But sure, rule of law. Date. But I'm just.

[Jordan]

I think you're thinking eight hot and eight hot and seven crazy.

[Dani Austin]

No, I'm. No, I know what you mean. Nine, nine hot, eight crazy. That's just. To me, anything over a seven is a no go. It's not marriage material.

[Jordan]

Yes. So nine, nine, ten hot, below seven crazy wife zone.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, totally. So if you're nine hot and you're seven crazy.

[Jordan]

Yeah. So you're.

[Dani Austin]

You're a lucky guy.

[Jordan]

So, like, I married a 10, a 10, seven, 10 hot, 10 hot, 10 hot, six or seven crazy.

[Dani Austin]

Okay.

[Jordan]

Just the past five years, hormones, pregnancy, outside of war times, I would say you're a solid five crazy.

[Dani Austin]

Totally. And I'm.

[Jordan]

You know, it only goes down to four, and I might even want to.

[Dani Austin]

Be anything less than.

[Jordan]

No, I mean, because.

[Dani Austin]

Because, like, you got to keep life Interesting.

[Jordan]

Yeah. 4.

[Dani Austin]

Then what are you just like, marrying your sister?

[Jordan]

Yeah. 410 is like a boring Highland park trophy wife. Like, it's like boring.

[Dani Austin]

Ew. Like, we don't. We want to spice it up.

[Jordan]

Spice it up. Let's.

[Dani Austin]

We need to throw a couple of vases at the wall.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

You know, just one or two every five years.

[Jordan]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.

[Dani Austin]

I'm. I'm vibing with this.

[Jordan]

Yeah. But it's so funny because this is for guys. But girls, it's like a whole scale.

[Dani Austin]

It's a totally different scale. This is what we were talking about earlier.

[Jordan]

Because girls probably want low, crazy stability emotionally.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And you can be like a two and be marriage.

[Dani Austin]

Totally. I mean, that's what it's like. Jay Z. Jay Z's not a good looking man at all.

[Jordan]

Oh, girls think, though.

[Dani Austin]

I mean, babe, have you ever seen his shins?

[Jordan]

His shins?

[Dani Austin]

Y' all haven't ever seen Jay Z look up Jay Z shins right now. Look up Jay Z knees. Everybody go look up Jay Z's knees.

[Jordan]

It is so weird to me that.

[Dani Austin]

Are you seeing it?

[Jordan]

Oh, wow.

[Dani Austin]

I told you.

[Jordan]

Really? Skips leg day.

[Dani Austin]

No, I know. And to me, that's just not okay.

[Jordan]

That's really not okay.

[Dani Austin]

I know. And like, look at him when he's kissing Beyonce. Like, look how little and his knees is. He's. He's like. He's not bow legged. He's like the opposite of bow legged. He's like inverted knees.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Dani Austin]

So that's why he always wears these really long shorts. I get it. We all have our insecurities.

[Jordan]

I mean, I get it.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. So it's.

[Jordan]

But it is so crazy how looks for girls just are so different.

[Dani Austin]

I know. You always see, like, the hottest girls with the, like, least attractive dudes or like, old men because, like, we don't care.

[Jordan]

You just don't care at all.

[Dani Austin]

And it's like, nice. What were you gonna say?

[Jordan]

I was gonna say, have you guys seen, like, the sec couple thing online? Yeah. Where it's like the, like, grossest dude and some really pretty girl.

[Dani Austin]

Big, like, like, offensive.

[Jordan]

It's like every sec couple and they got the cutest. So real. It is so real.

[Dani Austin]

It's so real because. And like, I even. I even get that, like, the really big, chunky, like, O line guys, defense guys that are like £300 and they have the cutest little, like, there's also something that's, like, so protective about that. It's like I have this, like, big man taking care of me. And, like, I don't care if he has a six pack or I don't care if he has, like, even a bunch of money or whatever. It's like you just like, want to be like. And girls like to feel little, like just a little teddy bear. You just take care of me and just, you know.

[Jordan]

Oh, it's so interesting.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. I don't know. Looks was just like, really never. In fact, I kind of felt like handsome guys kind of give me the ick a little bit. Not you. Because you've kind of, like, really, like, just like grown into it. Yeah. You've really blossomed. Like, I always say it was a great investment on my part, but, like, when you start out really good looking like that, like, I don't know, there's something wrong with you. There's something wrong with you if you, like, care so much to look like that.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dani Austin]

And sometimes you just look like that. You know what? And it's not your fault. And I get it. And you know what? Like, good for you.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Like, it'll probably be on the modern wisdom podcast just complaining about their good looks.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, you know what? It's just like you were born.

[Jordan]

Because I was just born like a hot dude.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. And I just like nobody ever like, notices me for me. But. But yeah. So I don't know. Just never. It was never a thing. I, I would say like a guy that takes care of himself was more important than a handsome guy.

[Jordan]

I saw this, this clip on Instagram about. They called it, what they call it. They called it pretty privilege. And they were talking about so many.

[Dani Austin]

Friends that were so pretty.

[Jordan]

They were talking about how like, if you're pretty as a female, you just kind of get whatever you want, like for sure. And it's. It's so true.

[Dani Austin]

No, it is so true. I mean, I get everything I want. No, I've, I always. That was one thing about me is I really liked having pretty friends.

[Jordan]

I don't know if it works the same for guys. No, no, it doesn't at all. If it probably works against you, if anything.

[Dani Austin]

I know. I wouldn't say it works against you because I think. But I think men that are really charming that like, like learn how to own their smile and own their, and like, own their personality. Like guys with a big smile that go in and ask for anything probably can get what they want.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Dani Austin]

I don't even think it matters too much if, but no, I, I do think that good looking people do typically they can go further in life.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Especially females.

[Dani Austin]

Especially females. Oh my gosh. Like I said, I always hung out with like really pretty girls, so I was kind of always like the ugliest one. But I felt like, you know, on this, on, on the scale, like if I'm hanging out with tens and I'm a seven or a six, well, I'm still, we're still attracting the nine guys, so I'll get the lesson.

[Jordan]

Nine.

[Dani Austin]

It bumps me up too. So if I'm hanging out with the nine guys, then I settle with the seven guy. That was just leftovers. Still better than the fours I would have been with with the other girls. You know what I mean?

[Jordan]

The other thing that can really bump you up is like, like the social groups you're part of. Like.

[Dani Austin]

True.

[Jordan]

I feel like if you took a fraternity guy. What's a popular fraternity at Texas? Fiji.

[Dani Austin]

Fiji, sure.

[Jordan]

Fiji. Okay. If you, if you meet that person at the Fiji House and you know they're part of this social group, you're like, that's an 8 for sure. If you meet that person totally at a bus stop, it's like you're a four.

[Dani Austin]

You're a gdi.

[Jordan]

Yeah. You're like a three, four. It's so crazy.

[Dani Austin]

It's like, you know, where the. Okay, this is the only space that I feel like these rules don't apply. Can you guess?

[Jordan]

No. Church?

[Dani Austin]

No. Well, sadly, no.

[Jordan]

No. Church is also a part of a. You know, it's part of a social experiment because, like, you know, at summer camps, like, if you're a church counselors, camp counselor, like a totally different ball game than the real life.

[Dani Austin]

So I was gonna say, like, on average, not always. There's always the anomalies, but on average, these rules don't apply with, like, super wealthy, like, with generational wealth.

[Jordan]

What do you mean?

[Dani Austin]

Like, people that are. Come from generational wealth, they typically don't marry each other for looks. They marry each other for status, Status, prestige, like, just to keep it. Keep the wealth within the family. So that's why I feel like sometimes you have. Not always, but like you have these rich people marry each other. It's like, wow, didn't expect that.

[Jordan]

Maybe because.

[Dani Austin]

Because they only date. They. They have a smaller niche.

[Jordan]

They have a smaller niche because they have to date.

[Dani Austin]

If you're a billionaire, you only are going to marry a billionaire's daughter too. And there's not a lot of them out there, so you kind of just have to pick from.

[Jordan]

You know, I don't think it's. I don't think it's as. I don't think it's about, like, status. I think it's. That's part of it, but I think it's probably like an understanding of the lifestyle, understanding of the. The nuances of what some would say that's status.

[Dani Austin]

That's like tr. That's. That's just their lifestyle.

[Jordan]

So you're feeling understood.

[Dani Austin]

Feeling understood. And you want to marry someone that can keep up with your family's lifestyle too. Like, if you want to keep the families together, it's like Downton Abbey savvy. You know, you never watch the show, but it's like with the royals. It's like if you want to keep the families together, they need to understand, like, the customs and the traditions, and they need to, like, respect that and be able to come together and go to the same galas and events and do all the same things, travel all together. But like, if you are from this billionaire family and you marry this person who has no idea, like, how you live, it's. It's going to create so much chaos. Just. Just like, it's just. You're not on the same wavelength.

[Jordan]

Totally. So, you know, if you're a four.

[Dani Austin]

Okay.

[Jordan]

Working at McDonald's.

[Dani Austin]

Male or female?

[Jordan]

Let's bring this full. Let's do female. We already know if you're. Well, shoot for working at McDonald's. I think both. I think both.

[Dani Austin]

Can I ask you something, though? Like, sorry, before you get there, if you're a four, female working at McDonald's, what's your best.

[Jordan]

That's what I was getting at. You're the plan of attack for both males and females. Fours working at McDonald's is the key is you have to insert yourself into environments that bump you up. So, okay, you gotta sneak your way into the Fiji parties. You've got to wear the garb. Like, you've got to.

[Dani Austin]

Yes.

[Jordan]

Go to church.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, okay. That's always a good thing.

[Jordan]

You got to go to church because you'll. And get in some community groups. Own your smile, own your person. Personality get bumped up. It's like, I'm not a four. I'm a seven.

[Dani Austin]

Or work really hard or get really smart or get plastic surgery.

[Jordan]

Okay. Yes.

[Dani Austin]

Just saying. Those are all things that could pump you up.

[Jordan]

I'm just. I'm just speaking to the. The average fours out there that are not willing to cosmetically change.

[Dani Austin]

Well, okay. So. So funny enough, like, I would consider myself a four. It's okay. I'm not looking for any affirmation. It's okay. But I'm just saying, okay. Growing up, I would have considered myself a 4, maybe a 5. And then I could get to the 6 and 7. If I, like, get a spray tan, I do my hair, like, and then I can get to the seven, you know, so I'm like a. Between four to seven. I don't think that's really talking bad about myself. I think. I think it's good. I have such a range.

[Jordan]

I'll accept for whatever you're about to say.

[Dani Austin]

Okay. So I always thought that looks were not going to be my advantage in life. So I was like, oh, gosh, what's it gonna be? And I knew I didn't come from, like, you know, a billionaire family, so I was like, scratch that. So, like, why would the billionaire marry me? Especially if I'm a four some days. So, yeah.

[Jordan]

On social media.

[Dani Austin]

So then I. And then I was like, so I better become famous. No, no. So then I was like, oh, gosh, the only thing I really have working for me is my work ethic. And here's the other thing. That was a bummer. I wasn't that naturally smart, you know, so that sucks, too. When you're ugly, not rich and dumb. Like, it's just really a recipe for disaster. So I just want to say. But I still had one thing that worked for me. You see this little pinky finger?

[Jordan]

Your speed.

[Dani Austin]

No, because I wasn't. I was. I was fast, but, like, not. I was regionally fast, but not, like, state fast was hard work. So if you're a four working at McDonald's, then you become the manager of the McDonald's and then you move on and start your own franchise.

[Jordan]

And then you're in corporate. Corporate.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Talk about, okay, Fiji Church corporate offices. You can be a 4 in a corporate office.

[Dani Austin]

So true.

[Jordan]

And be the hottest girl.

[Dani Austin]

You know why? Because you're in. You're in business, you're in finance.

[Jordan]

It is so easy to run circles around these corporate wonks. Like, you just dress a little bit.

[Dani Austin]

Better, get the right shoes, and you're in.

[Jordan]

You gotta tell a couple jokes, get.

[Dani Austin]

The right vest, get a bag off T moon.

[Jordan]

You gotta be. You gotta be nicer and funnier than Dave.

[Dani Austin]

You just take.

[Jordan]

And Dave's married with six kids. He doesn't care anymore.

[Dani Austin]

He doesn't care anymore.

[Jordan]

And so, like, you're it.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, you're it. And, like, you just gotta join that one, like, Pilates studio that everybody else is going, and you're. It's really not hard.

[Jordan]

Every McDonald's employee is going to listen to this podcast and they're going to be like, I'm going to find love.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. No, for sure.

[Jordan]

I got to make it to corporate.

[Dani Austin]

Just work smarter, not harder.

[Jordan]

Yeah, yeah. Smarter, not harder.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

It's so interesting to me because everything that you said about yourself, I know I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna talk you out of it because it's clearly your motivating factor in life, but. No, it's so wrong.

[Dani Austin]

Okay, well, it's fine.

[Jordan]

But you hold on to it because it's gotten you pretty far. So you keep telling yourself that.

[Dani Austin]

Would you rather have a girl that thinks that she's ugly, that is cute, or a girl that thinks she's cute, that is cute. Or would you rather have a girl that thinks that she's cute that's ugly? Sorry, it's horrible. It's horrible.

[Jordan]

No, I think, Yeah, I think you're. I think you're.

[Dani Austin]

Your.

[Jordan]

Your temperaments, right?

[Dani Austin]

No, no, but I'm actually genuinely, like. I'm actually curious.

[Jordan]

I think that, like, is it more.

[Dani Austin]

Attractive to have a girl that's cute think that she's cute, or is it more Attractive to have a girl that. Do you know what I mean?

[Jordan]

I think your version is probably the closest to, like, wholesome humility.

[Dani Austin]

So probably so probably like, a girl that doesn't think she's cute, but she's confident, doesn't think. Yeah, that's always a good.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. But, like, girls who are, like, like, insecure.

[Dani Austin]

That's annoying.

[Jordan]

Yeah, that's annoying.

[Dani Austin]

It's, like, so annoying when, like, girls are like. Like, you know. Yeah, I can't go anywhere because I don't have the right outfit or I don't feel good. It's like, you look fine. Like, you look the same you did yesterday.

[Jordan]

And then girls who, like, are hot and, like, know they're hot, it's kind.

[Dani Austin]

Of like, yeah, well, I bet. Like, is there anything wrong with that? Babe, scoot over. Like, I'll go get the drinks. Like, Like. Like, Jordan goes to the bar, and he's like, oh, they're shut down. They're enclosed. And she's like, babe, I got this. Like, how would that make you feel.

[Jordan]

If I was.

[Dani Austin]

There's a part of you that's like, oh, that's my girl. You know, there's a party that's like, yeah, like, go get him, babe.

[Jordan]

It really is gonna. Because you're kind of like, this is.

[Dani Austin]

What I got, and you don't got it.

[Jordan]

If I'm secure in myself and in the relationship, it's awesome. But I would say that if I am at all insecure in the relationship, then I'm sweating bullets.

[Dani Austin]

That would be kind of mean if she did that and you were insecure.

[Jordan]

No, no. What? Just in general. Like, if I was with a girl, like. And I'm like, oh, I don't know if our relationship's going well. I'm thinking.

[Dani Austin]

And then she's like, babe, I got this. I'm gonna go flirt with the bartender to get what we want.

[Jordan]

No, just outside of that scenario. Just that scenario. If I was with someone who was hot, who knew that they were hot, and I at all felt insecure in either myself or in the relationship, that would be a very hard relationship to be in. Because you would be like, oh, like, she feels like she has options and I'm an option. That's not good enough.

[Dani Austin]

Totally.

[Jordan]

That's what I mean. Yeah, right. And so it's like, okay, so. Which is so funny. Back to the sec thing. Because usually, I don't know, like, the sec female stereotype. Do you think that those are girls that are hot, that know they're hot? Or do you think that those are girls that are cute but insecure to end up with that guy?

[Dani Austin]

No, I think that girls that end up with football players know they're hot. They.

[Jordan]

Okay, for the most part, football player is very different than what I just said, which is the frat guy who.

[Dani Austin]

Plays football.

[Jordan]

No, doesn't play football.

[Dani Austin]

Like you said, sec. Oh, sec. Frat guys.

[Jordan]

Yes. Sec.

[Dani Austin]

Wait, can you repeat the question?

[Jordan]

So do you think the girls that end up with sec frat guys.

[Dani Austin]

So Fijis.

[Jordan]

Yes, Fiji, sure. Sec. Frat guys that are, are not good looking.

[Dani Austin]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

So. But the girl is very cute.

[Dani Austin]

Yes. I'm thinking of like 10 friends I have.

[Jordan]

Okay, so you know this example, this happened all the time in college.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

So do they know they're hot or are they with him because they're like, I'm actually not good enough or good looking?

[Dani Austin]

No, no, they know that they're hot and they don't care about what the guy looks like. But they're marrying a Fiji. They're married. A guy that like, comes from a family, smart, got into ut, is gonna have plenty of job opportunities when he graduates because they all take care of each other. She's marrying into security. And not only that, but like, you get the community aspect of it. You're always gonna be friends with these people. You're, you're already like, by marrying into that group of people, you're already like raising your bar like five or six levels because you, you're just born into like, it's just like an exclusive community now, which I'm not saying they're all like rich and successful, but they, the fact that they were accepted to this little exclusive community makes you feel, it's almost like for a girl that marries a football player, it's like the opportunities because he's a football player for you now are going to be so much more. So you marry a guy that comes from that, like, exclusive community, it's so much more.

[Jordan]

So what's wild to me though, and I'm stereotyping, but like, I feel like those SEC guys are like the guys that are like, I'm gonna go out with the boys or like, I'm gonna play golf every week.

[Dani Austin]

But you don't.

[Jordan]

And they don't appreciate the cute wives that they have. Does that make sense?

[Dani Austin]

Not always.

[Jordan]

No, I know I'm stereotyping, but like, it is a wild dynamic that like the uncute guy can end up with a cute girl and they take advantage of her and kind of take Advantage.

[Dani Austin]

I think that's why so many end up in like, not happy marriages, because.

[Jordan]

They'Re kind of married for the wrong reasons.

[Dani Austin]

They married for the wrong reason. So then you could take the route that I took where I was around all of that. I probably could have married one of those guys. And I was like, I don't want to marry a fraternity guy. I want to marry a gdi Cue Jordan, come in. You know, I want to marry somebody that has no affiliation to all of this because it feels like they're. They're put on this pedestal and they think that they're special because of that. And I always just felt like that might crumble for you one day or.

[Jordan]

That after like 10 years.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, but maybe not. Honestly, I. I know a lot of guys. Like, even my uncle, who's was pretty successful, he, like, still keeps up with all of his college buddies. So it's not like everyone. It just wasn't like my values, I think, at the time.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Because, I mean, that also is an age old story that I feel like we've heard a lot about in Dallas where it's like you marry for the wrong reasons, whether that's like status or money or family name or whatever. And like, yeah, they. That's gonna break down after five to seven years, probably. For sure.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. But then I have, like, I ran into one of my good girlfriends from college at Stella's birthday party, and she kind of married like one of those Friday guys, and they're like an awesome couple. They're like, amazing. Like, they're really strong in their church and they're like, just super normal, really. Both come from great families. Like, they just, they nailed it. So sometimes you just, you know, we're so, like, judgmental.

[Jordan]

No, I mean, we're just trying to. We're just trying to navigate life here.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah, it's.

[Jordan]

So the question is, is love blind?

[Dani Austin]

It's definitely never blind. It's not blind. It never was.

[Jordan]

Unless you're in the sec.

[Dani Austin]

Yeah. Or a football player or you're hot or you're rich, then you're good. Okay, well, we didn't get to our other segment of Horse Frank and Jelly Roll. Getting into it. That was a long time ago, but it's still super interesting, so we could maybe talk about it next time.

[Jordan]

Bye.

[Dani Austin]

Okay, no, thank you guys for listening. Hopefully Jordan will be here next week. We'll just see what happens. Everybody go. Leave him some love on the podcast so he feels encouraged to come back. And we'll talk to you soon. Love you. Bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.