← De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan
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Foreign.
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The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hello, and welcome back to your favorite podcast, de Influenced. I'm already guessing for air.
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Yeah. Was I snoring last night?
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I was gonna ask you.
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I. I don't think you.
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I don't think you snored either, but I didn't. See, that's so funny, because, look, my voice is kind of back today.
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I think I did snore, though, because my throat still is hurting.
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You had a slight snore, but it was like a cute snore.
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It was like a. Yeah, I drink. I haven't been sleeping well at all. So I. I did a double scoop of beam.
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You're stressed. Tell us about it.
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No, I don't.
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No, it's okay. No, it's a safe zone here.
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No, I don't want it. Yeah, I'm stressed.
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It's only millions of people listening.
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No, I'm not stressed. I'm not stressed. I've been. I've been more stressed in my life.
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I did meet someone last night, so. Last night we did the Galentine's Day party at Ellie's house. It was so cute. Like, there was, like, probably 10 of us. And I met a new friend. You know how I am. I meet a new friend, I'll never talk to him again.
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Yeah, fat chance.
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Like, I meet him, I'm like, God, we should be friends. And then I'm like, I'll never.
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It's like a stranger at the mall, and you're like, here, take my number.
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And then I'm like, all the time.
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It's. Honestly, it's worse on your reputation.
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No, because you know what? They need to pursue me. Okay?
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They do.
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So sick of pursuing.
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No, they do.
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I pursue my children every. No, they don't. People never pursue me.
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I don't know people.
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Friends never pursue me, and they never ask for my number back. So. Yeah, no, I'm like. I'm telling you, if I give you my number, it's because I really want to be friends, but it's really because I want you to ask me for my number and then invite us somewhere.
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You need to be careful, because you don't. You don't mean that, Jordan.
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You know what? You're wrong about this, and you're wrong about the Delilah invite. Okay? You thought that I just wanted to be invited to Delilah, and I knew I was gonna be invited. It wasn't about the invite. I wanted to go. I know, but you think that you know me sometimes, and you don't. Okay, I do want to Be pursued by friends.
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Okay, I understand, but if you're not
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cool, then don't pursue me. I don't want to. I don't want to be pursued. Yeah, okay. Anyway, so we went to the Valentine's Day, the Galentine's thing, and I met a new friend, and she was like, is it weird that I tell you that, like, I listen to your podcast every, like, every week? I love it. Blah, blah. And I was like. She was like. In fact, I was listening on the way over here, and it was the episode that. Preachers and sneakers or where I like, ragged on preachers and sneakers.
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He was here yesterday.
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Well, I know. So she was like, yeah, that was like, so interesting. And I looked him up and. And I was like, girl, you're not gonna believe it. He showed up to my house today. And she was like, no, I was like. I was in the garage bouncing on my ball the whole time because I was. I was.
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You were scared?
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No, I wasn't scared. I would have faced him, but I wasn't mentally there. And, like, it's really hard for, like, a pregnant woman, like, when you're, like, almost 38 weeks pregnant, to feel, like, confident in your words.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Because, like, you just, like, feel the girth of your cheeks, and it's like. I don't know, it's like when you're talking, you feel like you're a chipmunk, and it's like, I don't want to be arguing with you.
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You know, we had an hour and 40 minute conversation, and the. It was a great conversation. And the only thing that would have made it better is if you would have came in at the end. Did. Did Nate text you?
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Yeah, he did. And I was like, absolutely not.
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I figured I was gonna ask, but then I was like, I don't want to hurt Ben's feeling. He really thinks you don't like him.
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Really?
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No, I told him. I was like, hey. She, like. I was like, she likes you. She just. It's like a game recognized game type of thing.
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No, it's like. It's like. It's like brotherly love. Like.
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No, that's. That's what I.
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But it's like I'm messing with him.
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It's hard to explain that to someone who doesn't know you, though.
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True, true, true. It's like, that's like how I, like, I, like, that's how my friends are like, I mess with you. I just, like, give you a little noogie, you know?
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Yeah.
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What do you call it? Would you pull their underwear.
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But he was. He listened to the episode about us talking about him on his way here.
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Oh, that's horrible.
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And then he was like, yeah, I don't really, like, know what I'm walking into here. But then I was super respectful.
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Why do you think he doesn't, like. I don't. Like. Why does he think I don't like him?
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Probably because of everything you said on the podcast, too.
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I don't. That has. Okay, but, you know, he's a troll. Like, he put it out there.
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I want you to listen to the episode, and I want you to determine whether he's a troll or not. Is he a troll, or was he someone who is navigating a very complex moral human dilemma as an enneagram3? I think that you will find a lot of empathy for him in the episode.
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Game recognizes game, baby. I'm teasing. I probably will. Honestly, like, we're gonna be buddies. That's why it's so funny.
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Yeah, sure.
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Like, it's so funny because I'm like, ben, like, we're gonna be friends.
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It is funny. Like, you are treating him very brotherly.
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No, I know, because I see him. Like, I see. Like, I'm not intimidated by him. I'm not. Like, I see what he was trying to do. It's like, so I just get it. I get it more than anyone. And so, like, that's.
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Know what I would love to do is I'd love to put you, him, and JD In a room together.
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Oh, my gosh. We would go so hard.
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Because all y' all would do. It's like that Spider man gif, where it's like, everyone's pointing at each other.
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No, that's so not what we would do. We would, like, create something brilliant.
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Yeah, probably.
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Anyway, I come out, I'm like, I bought preachers and sneakers. Domain. I'm like, let's get them, boys.
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Anyway, so we need some good, good guests like that.
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Oh, I want to.
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Oh, really?
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Who.
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Who's on your list?
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I really want Wes Huff on the podcast.
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He's. He would be awesome. Like, I love him, but he's like, he might be too much for our.
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No, you're wrong. Because he went on Sean Ryan, who's, like, a new believer, and he. Sean Ryan just, like, asked him, like, every question that, like, every believe, every Christian, every non believer is, like, dying to know. Like, why does bad thing happen to good people? Like, you know, like. Or what do you envision whenever, like, you die right now? Like, where do you go and, like, Wes is, like, very, like, he's not like, a pastor. Like, that's, like, man, like, you know, like, and it just, like, kind of speaks out of his butt. Like, he literally has, like. Like, he'll, like, go through each scripture and be like, well, judgment happens this way, and Paul says this, and. And it's like, so. Yeah, it's just so, like, interesting and validating because it's, like, not just, like, speaker talk or pastor talk.
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Yeah.
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I love. I love hearing, like, point people's point of view that don't. That don't talk like this, this, and, like, cadence. We.
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We reached out to Josh Howerton.
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Oh, he would be great. He would totally come. Well, I don't kind of think, like, during my maternity leave to, like, keep you sane, I feel like you should do, like, hourly podcasts, like, every Friday, maybe.
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Yeah. But okay, we. We went through. We. I texted Miles and Miles. I think Miles seems skeptical that he would say yes.
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Oh, really? Like, he might not.
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Yeah, he was like. He's a big numbers guy.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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Oh, okay. Well, I mean, his podcast, like.
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Like, they slap. Yeah, he killed it, but he's hitting, like, like, a certain congregation of Christians. And. And the pitch that I made was like, hey, like, you engage with culture all the time. You should come on, because I think we have believers and non believers that listen to the podcast.
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Yeah. I mean, I would love to have Josh. He had. He had such a good clip the other day.
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No, I want to talk about. I want to talk to him about his social media game.
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Oh, yeah. Then he's. He. He's not gonna come if you say that right now.
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Why?
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I mean, maybe it would be interesting to know his perspective on social media.
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Yeah. And, like, does he post and ghosts, you know?
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Yeah. Well, he was talking the other day about, gosh, it was so sweet, what his family did for him the first time he was canceled a couple years ago.
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Oh.
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And it was like, oh, my God. You just. Y' all just have to go listen to the clip. Like, what's his podcast called?
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I don't know.
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It just look up Josh Howerton. His clips. His, like. But the way that he dealt with his. His family, dealt with his cancellation was just, like, brought tears to my eyes.
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I also really want to get someone on here who's misunderstood and canceled, who's been canceled lately.
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Carl led to be great. No, he would be great. We honestly just need to, like, mass email these people and, like, see what's up.
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But who's, like, more recently been Canceled. That's misunderstood.
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Like, everyone. I feel like.
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Like, for example, if someone, like, had a really bad performance singing the national anthem and just got, like, destroyed for it, I would want them to come on.
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But that's, like, not character cancellation.
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Yeah, that's true. That's true.
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That's performance interesting. It's just like, oopsies.
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Who's been character canceled lately?
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Oh, everybody, Babe. Like, seriously, everyone.
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Oh, okay.
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Bad Bunny.
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Bad Bunny.
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I mean, you know, I.
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Speaking of Bad Bunny, I'm. I'm having a really complicated reaction to Bad Bunny because I love the halftime show.
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So good.
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And it sent me down. Not that iOS. I didn't really get caught up in the politics of it all, but I just didn't think I was gonna like him because I didn't listen to Bad Bunny.
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We didn't know.
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We didn't know. But he's so cool. I know.
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He's just.
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It was just like, he's such a vibe. So then I started listening to his music, and I still can't tell if I'm into it, but what's so odd about it is it's been on repeat in my head.
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Yeah.
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For, like, four days.
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Yeah.
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Obviously, I have no idea what the words are.
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Nobody does.
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Like, no one does.
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People are like, you let Stella listen to the halftime performance. Like, she understands Spanish. I was like, guys, this is like. Like, Eminem rapping, like, in English. Like, nobody understands what he's saying. Even people that sometimes speak Spanish. It's, like, so fast. But also. No. Our kids were asleep by then. Thank you very much.
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Yeah, but also, he's very creative.
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Yeah.
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Very creative in a very diverse way. Like, it makes me feel like I respect this person for the same reason Tyler, the creator.
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Yeah.
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So he's super crass and, like, horrible, like, with his lyrics. But, like, I believe he's a creative genius, and so, therefore, I respect him. Like, he's so out there in doing things that are so, like, different. Perfect for the Internet. Like, when he. So Tyler, the creator, is famous for. He had the roach climbing all over him. And then at the end of the music, like, the whole music video is black and white him with a roach crawling all over him. And then at the end, he just grabs it and eats it.
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No. Is that real?
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It's a real video. It's, like, kind of what made him pop off.
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Oh, I've never seen that.
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And then he was like. I just think his story is so interesting because he was part of this, like, group called Odd Gang. Yeah. Odd Future and it's like all these kids from like Yonkers, New York that were all just super creative and probably went to art school and they formed this group and then he was kind of the Justin Timberlake of that group and just like took off and then he's just like everywhere now. Do you want the full name? Yeah, yeah, I do. It's Odd. Odd Future Wolfgang Kill Them All. Yes, that's it.
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Really inspirational. The original members were Tyler, the creator, Casey Veggies, Hadji, Left Brain, Matt Martians, D, Jasper Dolphin, Travis Taco Bennett and Sid.
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Yep. In that Sick.
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Later members included Frank Ocean.
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Yep, Frank Ocean was in it.
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Mike G and some other people I don't elbow.
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So it was just like. It was just like this giant creative collective of like these 16 year olds, 17 year olds making music. And then he just took off and now he was in that movie with Timothy Chalamet.
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Yeah, yeah. He can do a lot. He's like very.
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He's very like multifaceted and I feel like those types of artists, like, I feel like Bad Bun Money's probably the same. I don't. I think the only movie he's been in was like Happy Gilmore.
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Yeah, Happy Gilmore.
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But I. I didn't watch it.
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He was phenomenal. He's phenomenal. The thing that I like about him and is that he was bagging groceries in 2016, like at a grocery store.
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That was weird to me. I didn't know that.
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And there's like pictures of him when he was back. Like, he literally just took off in the last 10 years and is now won all these Grammys. He's performed at the super bowl twice. And so what I did like about his messaging was first of all, I thought it was really cool that they highlighted like Puerto Rican culture. Like, I loved that because a lot of people don't know about Puerto Rico at all. So I actually.
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Great tax haven.
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Yeah. Besides that. That's all they know is that Jake Paul lives there and to. To save on taxes. But I loved that. And then it was like really sweet when he handed that little boy the Grammy, which was supposed to like sim. Like symbolize himself when he was little. And then he did take a moment. It was all in Spanish, but that was like the only part I could understand. But he was like, you know, he talked to the camera. He was like, you can believe in yourself, you can do it. Like, you know, just like sweet. It was like wholesome. He had a. A couple actually getting married up on stage. Like proposed to and married on Stage like, they legit got married. I thought that was sweet. Like, I don't know. I just. I. I liked. I liked everything about it.
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How many.
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The booty dancing wasn't too much for me either. It's like.
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It's not like. It's like when Latin people booty dance, it's kind of like it's art. It's okay. Yeah, it's like, it makes me want to do it too. It's like, y' all are just so happy doing it. It's not sexual. It's just.
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I didn't vibes, but yeah, that's just.
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How many people watch TP USA's halftime performance? Because the whole thing was like, we.
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We did go over there just to see what was going on over there,
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and it's pretty lame, dude.
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I'm sorry.
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It was super LA.
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Like, literally, I watched it for, like, 20 seconds. I was like, okay, we got to go back.
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Yeah, let's see. It says that they had approximately 5 million to 6 million concurrent live viewers on YouTube. Okay. Do you know how many people watched Bad Bunny's halftime performance? 128 million.
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Yeah, I think it was more people watched the halftime performance than the super bowl.
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So either, like, the.
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The actual game.
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So either.
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I think it was the highest viewed ever.
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No. Second.
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Who beat him?
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Last year's Kendrick Lamar.
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I don't think that's true.
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Yeah, it is, Nate.
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Will you fact check that?
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But so what's so funny to me about it is that they were boycotting the super bowl and, like, pushing people to tp. TP usa, which either means that the outrage that people feel towards Bad Bunny was, like, a little bit embellished on social media, or tens of millions of people were just hate watching Bad Bunny.
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Yeah, no, it's hate watching for sure. Both. It was both.
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It was both. Yeah.
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I mean, like, the more hate. What was it, Nate?
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Bad Bunny barely beat Kendrick lamar. He had 135 million. Kendrick Lamar had 133.5.
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Yeah, I told you. That's why they've been making such a big deal about it, because it was the highest watch show ever. Even beat Michael Jackson. And. And that's why everybody's like, ha, ha ha. Like, beat you, even though TP usa, like, had their own show.
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That's what I'm saying is, like, don't you think that the outrage was leaned into to promote the show? Like, I feel like if.
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No, I don't.
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Every year there's something about the super bowl performer that gets controversial, and I Feel like they have to use controversy to, like, sell it.
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It's just so funny to me because, like, I just remember growing up, like, Justin Timberlake, like, exposed Janet Jackson's boob, and, like, we all turned out okay. Like, you know, it's like, everybody's like, oh, my gosh, your children watch this. I'm like, we saw a boob up on. And, like, we're okay. Yeah, like, it's okay, guys.
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It's like, kind of. I mean, how old was I? Probably, like, 13.
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I don't know.
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It's, like, seared into my brain because I was like, do you remember the. What was the thing around the boob she was wearing, like. No, no, no. She was wearing, like, a. Like a. Like a. A nipple tassel or something. Star.
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Oh, I don't remember.
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Yeah, it was like. It was, like, for sure a thing, because everyone would, like, talk about it,
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but all the guys talked about. I'm like, I don't remember. It's a star. You know, there's stars on boobs. It's so American.
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But, yeah, I thought. I thought Bad Bunny was great.
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Yeah. So I. I don't know. I'm just like, in this era, and maybe it's because I'm about to have a baby where, like, I just, like, not a lot angers me, and so I just kind of, like, take it for what it is. And I'm like, I'm just gonna watch this show. Like, I'm just not gonna, like, make a big. It's not that deep. And, you know, it's just like, what do you expect? Like, it's just always gonna be this way. Like. And it didn't. It's not like it just happened. It's like, we saw Janet's booby, you know, 30 years ago, 20 years ago. We're okay. We're okay.
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We're all okay.
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Britney Spears was singing about weird things,
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too, you know, I will say that my favorite Bad Bunny song, for the record, it's not DMTF or whatever. That song's only good until the end, in my opinion. It's this one. Eo. Have you heard this one?
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No.
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It's like, his fifth song, and I'm like, this one's the best.
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Like, he performed this one, right?
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Titi Me Pregunta is okay to me. All right, I'll say this as a dad feeding kids. Well, sounds simple until you're actually doing it every single day. You try to balance convenience with quality. You try to win the vegetable battle, and half the time, you're negotiating over one bite of broccoli like it's a hostage situation. And something that's been on my mind lately is this. Our kids are growing up in a world full of ultra processed food. That's just reality. So instead of pretending we're going to be perfect, we've been looking for smart ways to fill the gaps. And that's where Haya makes a lot of sense. Haya was created because most kids vitamins out there are basically candy. Some have up to 7 grams of sugar per serving and artificial dyes. Haya took the opposite route. Zero sugar, no gummy junk, just clean nutrition. And the surprising part? Our kids actually love them. They get excited about taking them, the taste is good and they love decorating the reusable bottle with the stickers that come in the first order. It turned into this whole little routine they're weirdly proud of. What I appreciate is how thoughtful the formula is. Haya worked with pediatricians and nutrition scientists to build a chewable vitamin designed around real nutritional gaps. Each one packs 12 organic fruits and vegetables plus 15 essential vitamins and minerals, things like vitamin D, B12, C, zinc and folate. The ingredient list is clean, is clean, non gmo, vegan, dairy free, allergy friendly and every batch is third party tested for heavy metals and contaminants. This kind of transparency matters and here's something every parent needs to hear. If getting your kids to eat vegetables feels like an impossible daily battle, Haya's New Kids Daily Greens plus Superfoods is a total game changer. It's basically chocolate milk stuffed with veggies. It's a greens powder that's packed 55 plus whole food sourced ingredients. Just mix one scoop with milk or any non dairy beverage and watch them actually enjoy something that's secretly fueling their growing bodies. You get the reasonable water with your first order and then eco friendly refills show up. We've worked out a special deal with Haya for their best selling children's vitamin. Receive 50 off your first order. To claim this deal you must go to hayahealth.com Danny Austin this deal is not available on their regular website. Go to H I Y a H e a l t h.com dannyaustin and get your kids the full body nourishment they need to grow into healthy adults. February is usually when goals get tested. January is all motivation and fresh starts. February is consistency. It's the month where routines either stick or quietly disappear. When it comes to wellness, the biggest challenge isn't starting it's keeping things simple enough that you don't burn out, especially with nutrition. If fueling your body feels complicated, it's a lot easier to skip it or grab whatever's convenient. That's why something like Cachava makes sense this time of year. It's an all in one nutrition shake crafted with high quality ingredients. No fillers, no nonsense, just two scoops. Deliver 25 grams of plant based protein, 6 grams of fiber, grains, adaptogens, probiotics and essential vitamins and minerals that support energy, digestion, strength, metabolism, cognition and immunity. It's designed to remove friction. Blend it with your favorite nut milk, add frozen fruit, peanut butter, maybe some iced coffee and you've got a superfood packed shake that actually tastes good. There are six flavors to choose from, Chocolate, vanilla, chai, matcha, coconut, acai and strawberry so it doesn't feel repetitive. And the recipes from the Cachava kitchen make it easy to mix things up without overthinking it. The appeal is simplicity. Clean nutrition that fuels wherever your day takes you. No artificial flavors, colors or sweeteners. Non gmo, no soy, no animal products, no gluten, no preservatives. Just a whole body meal with plant based protein that fits into real life. February isn't about chasing perfection. It's about building habits that last past the hype. Stick with your wellness goals. Go to kachava.com and use code Danny Austin for 15% off. That's Kachava K A C H A V A dot com code dannyaustin okay,
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I'm officially in that phase of pregnancy where I wake up and suddenly need to reorganize something. It's so true. A drawer, a cabinet, the entire laundry room. But baby number four is literally almost here. And I feel this deep urge to make sure everything in our home has placed before he gets here. It's like my brain is saying if the house is calm, life will be calm. I don't know if that's true. Trying and what I've realized during this nesting season is that organization isn't about perfection, it's about function. When I can open a closet and actually see what's inside. When the kids things are easy to grab. When the nursery has a system instead of piles, my stress level drops immediately. If your home or your schedule feels a little chaotic lately, get to the Container Store. They don't just sell containers. Their experts help you create systems that actually work for your space in your life. We just use the Container Store items to reorganize the kids class closets it's been a game changer. I realized that we really don't need more stuff. We just need better systems. From closets and kitchens to garages and home offices, the Container Store has been helping people get organized for almost 50 years. And you can feel that experience when you walk in or browse online. The selection is incredible, the quality is amazing, and there are options at all price points. We've used Container Store's custom Alpha system in our garage and we have organizers throughout the house. And every time we add something new, I'm reminded how much smoother our days run when everything has a place. When you're preparing for a new baby and juggling three other kids, calm isn't optional, it's necessary. And sometimes calm starts with a really good drawer system. Visit containerstore.com Danny for a special discount to use online or any location of the container store. That's containerstore.com Dani for a special discount count there's this pattern that I see way too often. We try to fix everything from the outside. New products, new routines, new plans. But real progress usually doesn't start on the surface. It actually starts underneath. The truth is you can invest in every serum on the market, but if your cells are stressed and dehydrated, your skin is going to show it. So instead of chasing the new outward solution, this year feels like the right time to focus inward, to support what's actually happening at a cellular level. That's where Peak stands out. It's wellness that blends science and nature in a really intentional way. The radiant skin duo is built around a simple heart reset, one element to calm inflammation and detox, and one to deeply rehydrate and and rebuild. The first piece is Sudden Goddess Matcha, Ceremonial grade matcha grown in volcanic soil, it's not just about energy. It's packed with chlorophyll for detoxification, EGCG to brighten and firm, L theanine to calm stress, and catchins that support metabolism and skin clarity. It works like a reset button from within. The second piece is BT Fountain, and this is not a sports electrolyte. It's targeted beauty for hydration with hyaluronic acid, ceramides and collated minerals. It helps rebuild the skin barrier and deliver hydration at a deeper level. Especially if your skin ever feels dull, tight or textured. By mid afternoon, this kind of hydration matters. The real magic is how the two work together. Matcha reduces inflammation and detoxes while BT Fountain replenishes and rehydrates and that's when you start seeing less puffiness, brighter tone, firmer texture that lit from within, glow that doesn't come from layering more products. Progress doesn't always mean adding more. Sometimes it means supporting your foundation. Redefine your standard of health, secure 20% off your order, and begin your intentional wellness journey today@peak life.com jani that's P I Q U E life.com danny okay, let's actually. You know what? I've never actually looked at the lyrics to Bad Bunny in English. So let's, let's look them hooked.
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Everyone's doing that on Tik Tok right now.
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B
Oh, I haven't seen that at all.
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A
They're like, okay, here we go.
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B
Super bowl lyrics in English translation. Okay. I literally have no idea. Except for at the beginning. I just. He says, like, somebody asked me if I have a lot of girlfriends.
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A
No, it's like my auntie asked if
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I have a lot of girlfriends and he's like, yeah, I have a lot of girlfriends. Okay, so, okay.
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A
And he's like, I got another one. I got another one.
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B
Yeah. It's like, that's kind of funny. Like, you know, and especially whenever you're little, you have like so many boyfriends.
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A
Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's like mid-20s. How old is he?
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I think he's maybe 28 or something. Okay. So Auntie asked me if I have a lot of girlfriends A I A A lot of girlfriends Today I have one tomorrow I'll have another hit but there's no wedding Auntie asked me if I have a lot of girlfriends a a lot of girlfriends Today I have one tomorrow I'll have another A I'm going to take them all to the VIP the VIP hey, say hello to auntie. Let's take a selfie, say cheese. Let the ones I already effed smile and a VIP A VIP A say hello to auntie. Let's take a selfie, say cheese Let those who have already forgotten about me smile I really like the Gabriella's, the Patricias, the Nicole's, the Sophias My first girlfriend in kindergarten, Maria and my first love's name Talia. I've gotten a Colombian who writes me every day and a Mexican I didn't even know about Another one in San Antonio that still loves me and the ones from Puerto Rico that are all mine A Dominican who is a fresh hottie A fresh hottie the one from Barcelona that came by plane and says that my D is fire I let them play with my heart I'd like to move in with all of them to a mansion. The day I get married, I'll send them an invitation. Boy, stop that then. Yeah, it goes into this. So. You know, I've heard worse.
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A
Way worse. He's really the poet of our generation.
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B
It's really just. It's beautiful.
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A
It's really kind of just like a steady stream of consciousness.
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B
Yeah, yeah. So that was that. I had. A lot of people were like, why aren't you making a statement about the Super Bowl?
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A
What? What, what statement? What do you want us to say? What do you want us to say?
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B
Well, and then they were, they were upset. They were like, you need to make a, a statement about Epstein. I was like, epstein bad man there. Epstein bad, bad boy.
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A
I'm so confused. I can't sift through what's going on with that.
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B
Oh, Epstein.
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A
Yeah, I can't figure it out.
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B
Like, there's a lot of people mentioned in the.
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A
The docs.
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B
The docs. But just because you mentioned the docs doesn't always mean that you're. I mean, some. It probably does mean that you're like bad if you were really close with him, but sometimes he was just like a high up guy, you know, And I think a lot of people probably just like loosely associated with him, so.
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A
And also, was this guy just like emailing all day?
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B
I know. I'm like, why are you not like texting?
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A
Yeah, right.
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B
You know how those, like, those boomers are.
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A
I know they love BlackBerry.
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B
My dad, my dad loves an email. Like, you know, that was like kind of their version of text. Especially back in like. Oh, six.
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A
Yeah. Yeah, you're right. I was just so confused by that. I'm like in a lot of the.
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B
Because think about it, they had. Otherwise they like long form. The text. Like the iPhone wasn't here.
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A
Yeah. A lot of the emails were like, like conversational. I'm like, who talks like that over email?
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B
My dad does.
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A
Really?
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B
Yeah, my dad. Like my parents, when they would email, it's kind of like they're texting. It was like they're texting.
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A
Okay, that makes sense.
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B
Yeah. It was just a different time.
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A
Are. And I can't tell like what's fabricated, what's not. Like, I can't.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Figure it out.
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B
I mean, there's like, what, over 3 million files or something.
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A
Yeah.
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B
It's a lot to sift through. Why can't I just like go through it?
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A
I keep asking. I'm like, what? What's real here? Let me actually ask. Rock.
- [29:57]
B
There's Like, a lot of. Okay, so I know that a lot of people are leaving that. What is. He's a. He was a sports agent. Sports agency. Wisner, what is it? A lot of, like, talent is leaving that agency because he was, like, pretty associated with Epstein like, that, like, Chapel Roan just left. Some other celebrities are, like, backing out.
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A
So he was associated in what way?
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B
He was just like in the files. A lot. Like, being close with Epstein, like, flying on the plane, like, stuff like that. Basically, if you flew on the plane, like, you're not good.
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A
I. I kind of believe that.
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B
No, I agree.
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A
Yeah.
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B
People are, like, assuming, like, you're not.
- [30:36]
A
How about Peter Atia falling?
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B
Yeah. Is he the doctor guy?
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A
Yeah, he fell pretty hard. Yeah, he said some stuff.
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B
It was not good.
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A
Not good.
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B
Not good at all.
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A
Shocking, to be honest, what he said? No, just that, like, he would be involved.
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B
Like, I know he seems like a guy that wears, like, really fancy watches, and I never trust those guys.
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A
That's not a bad take.
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B
When a guy has veneers in a really nice watch, I'm like, not that veneers are bad, but it's like the mix of both. I'm just like. I don't know about how I feel about you, and, like, a watch is nice, but, like, when it's like, diamond or, like a weird color, like neon, I'm like, I don't really like. It's not that I don't. I don't like you. I just don't trust you.
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A
Yeah. I mean, it does say something, probably about your ego.
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B
Yeah. You know, it's okay if you like watches, and it's okay if you have an ego. I just don't trust you.
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A
Yeah, that's. I mean, that's not a bad take. So let me just say this. Hold on. I have not been following. I have not been following.
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B
Babe, who's Ara? I've never heard of this girl. How'd you name her? Like, Aura.
- [31:46]
A
No, I don't. I've never used the chat feature on this. I haven't been following the Epstein files that much. Can you give me a summary of what is true and what we've learned thus far thematically about everything that Jeffrey Epstein did from the latest release? Grok is always better for, like, real time information because it can analyze all of.
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B
All the 3 million files right now.
- [32:17]
A
No, I can just see what people are saying it, like, monitors, real time conversations.
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B
I guess there was something that kind of exonerated Trump where he, like, had this email. He. I don't know if this is true. Did you see this where he wrote an email, like, 20 years ago and was like, I don't want to be associated with Epstein. He's a bad guy.
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A
Yeah.
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B
There was, like, an email that came out.
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A
So Joe Rogan. Okay, what we've learned from the latest
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B
releases, I mean, obviously, Les Wexner, bad man.
- [32:46]
A
So confirmed abuse but limited trafficking scope. The FBI gathered ample proof of Epstein sexually abusing multiple underage girls, including victim interviews detailing grooming and assaults. However, agents found scant evidence of organized sex trafficking operation benefiting powerful men. No client list per se emerged proving elites were systematically involved. Instead, documents show unverified tips and allegations that were not pursued due to a lack of corroboration.
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B
I don't know if it was, like, a systematic thing.
- [33:23]
A
High profile connections without criminal ties. Epstein's network included billionaires like Bill Gates and Elon Musk, former presidents like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump.
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B
Okay, did you see the interview with Bill Gates ex wife?
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A
Yeah.
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B
That was, like, pretty crazy because she. They basically ask her, like, you know about, and she doesn't deny it. She's like, when they ask her, like, how do you feel about. I think it was like, your husband being involved in Epstein's case or whatever. And she was like, yeah, that was a really hard time. And, like, that. She, like, confirmed that that was, like, one of the reasons why she divorced him, which is so crazy. Like, Bill Gates, like, gets up on stage and, like, tells people what to do, and then he's like a pedophile. It's so weird to me.
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A
I like it.
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B
Okay, can we move on from this?
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A
Hold on, hold on.
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B
I want to talk about how Alex Earl and Tom Brady are hooking up, but it's not serious.
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A
I would say that. Yeah. So basically, he was just super connected to everyone, and then everyone shunned him when all of this came out.
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B
Okay, I'm just gonna say it. My kids absolutely eat off the counters. Not always on plates, not always intentionally. But if there's a strawberry or a cracker sitting there, it's gone. And for a long time, that stressed me out because I realized I'm spraying these surfaces every single day. What exactly am I spraying? Where they're literally putting their faces. That's what made Branch Basics such a shift for me. Cleaning products are something we use constantly on the counters, where we prep food, the floors, the kids crawl on, the laundry detergent that touches their clothes. And I started asking myself, do I actually know what's in these products? Branch Basics basically Changes the conversation. It's a female founded brand that's redefining transparency and cleaning. Their premium starter kit comes with one powerful concentrate that makes everything. Laundry detergent, bathroom cleaner, glass cleaner, even pet wash and vegetable rinse. It's plant and mineral base fragrance free and safe for babies, pets and anyone wanting to reduce daily exposure to toxins. And I'll be honest, I was skeptical that one formula could really replace everything. But it's earned a permanent spot in our home. It simplified our entire cleaning routine. And I love that I don't have to think twice when the kids grab food off the counter. That peace of mind matters so much to me. They also make it easy to refill once you run out. You just restock the concentrate at Target, Amazon or BranchBasics.com it's simple, effective, and feels like one of those swabs that actually makes a difference. And here's the good news. Branch Basics is now available everywhere you shop. @Target, Target.com Amazon and of course Branch Basics.com tossing the toxins has never been more convenient. And for anyone grabbing the premium starter kit, you can still get 15% off@branchbasics.com with our code Danny. Just use code Danny for 15 off the premium starter kit@branchbasics.com after you purchase. When they ask where you heard about them, please make sure to mention de influenced. I'll say that again. Branch Basics is available@target, target.com Amazon and branchbasics.com and you can get 15 off the premium starter kit@branchbasics.com with code Danny. Just use code Danny for 15 off and make sure to mention our show after purchase.
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A
All right. I'll be honest. Sleep in. Our house is kind of sacred. We've got kids, work chaos, alarms going off way too early. So when we finally get into bed, it has to feel good and cozy. Earth is one of those things that genuinely changed that for us. I originally started paying attention to sheets because Danny runs hot at night. Like full night sweat situation. And I run cold. So finding something that kept her cool without me feeling freezing felt impossible. Cozy Earth somehow figured that out. Their bamboo fabric regulates temperature so that we're both comfortable. No more kicking blankets off, no more thermostat negotiations. And it's not just the sheets. Danny loves their bamboo pajamas. They're soft but breathable. Lightweight but still cozy. They don't cling, they don't overheat, and they still look elevated. It's the kind of thing that makes winding down at night feel intentional instead of just collapsing into bed. For me it's just the little details, the way the sheets feel when you first get in, the weight of the classic cuddle blanket on the couch. It's plush without being suffocating. You can tell they obsessed over the quality, the stitching, the durability, how it holds up, wash after wash. It's one of those upgrades that seems small but when you use it every single night it adds up. And when life is busy, comfort matters more than you realize. Plus they back everything with a hundred night sleep trial and a 10 year warranty. That's confidence. Share a little extra love this February and wrap yourself or someone you care about in comfort that truly feels special. Head to cozyearth.com and use my code Danny for up to 20% off. And if you get a post purchase survey, be sure to mention you heard about Cozy Earth right here. Celebrate every day love with comfort that makes the little moments count. Alright, real question for the parents. What's the first money decision you remember making on your own? Mine was not impressive. I'm pretty sure I spent everything immediately and learned the lesson later. And now, watching kids grow up in a world where everything is tapped to pay in instant, it feels even more important to teach them how money actually works. For all of the parents out there with teenagers, we know you're already trying to keep a million different things under control. Cash App is here to help make sure your teens money and their spending isn't adding to that craziness. Cash App is designed to meet teens aged 13 to 17 where they are with intuitive educational tools available through sponsorship by an eligible parent or guardian. Teens gain access to a personalized Cash App card that comes in different colors and patterns to fit their style and their ability to instantly access money from family or friends. Cash App makes managing money feel easier and honestly just cooler than other options out there. The platform also has tools that can help teens develop real world financial habits in a space that's safe and easy to navigate, all with your oversight and approval. If your teen is getting their first job, Cash App can get them access to their paychecks up to two days early and can help them achieve personalized savings goals they can set themselves all within the app. With Cash App, these tools become something they'll actually want to use because they were designed with them in mind. Finally, no one wants unnecessary surprises. With Cash App there are no monthly fees, no minimum balance requirements, and no hidden charges when sending or receiving money. With the Cash App card you and your teens balances receive 24,7 fraud monitoring. And if something ever feels off for you, then you have the ability to lock the card right from your phone in just one tap. Skip the stress and give your teen a way to learn financial responsibility with no hidden fees. Download Cash App and get started today. For a limited time, new Cash App Customers can earn $10 if they use code Family10 in their profile at signup and send $5 to a friend within 14 days. Terms apply. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partners. Prepaid debit card issued by Sutton bank member FDIC Direct deposit and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block Inc. Brand visit Cash App legal podcast for full disclosure.
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B
What the.
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A
Oh, I hate when you read text like that.
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B
Oh, God. Okay, breaking news. Ew.
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A
What?
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B
Okay, we might have to cut this out because I'm just not reading this. But so I like, do a lot of, like, promoting Frida Baby and Frida mom. Like, because. And especially, like, I'm about to go into birth and like, I've literally, like, I've made like, three videos that I haven't posted. Like, talking all about Frida mom and Frida Baby and all their products. And a girl on my team just texted me and she's like, hey, I don't think we should post those anymore. Like, have you heard everything going on with Frida Baby? And I was like, no. Send, please. And I guess they put out like, some marketing campaign. I'm just not reading this. It's on their Instagram and it's a rectal thermometer. And it says, this is the closest your husband's going to get to a threesome. Meet the new three in one true temperature thermometer. The Swiss army knife of temperature taking accuracy. Blah, blah, blah.
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A
For a baby.
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B
Yeah, I don't even. Is this, like, real?
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A
No, that can't be real.
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B
Maybe.
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A
Look, if this is real, that can be real.
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B
But then people are like, all over X saying, just took all the freedom mom, freedom baby stuff out of my registry. After seeing the post about their marketing in the past few days, the brand just makes me feel very uncomfortable. I don't use many of these products anymore, but I will be tossing out every single one. Frida babies should be disgusted with themselves. This world does not protect our children. Oh, and then like this. This one says on the side, how about a quickie? And it's on. It's a thermometer.
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A
What?
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B
This is a real picture. Oh, someone in marketing is getting fired. Gross. In general, this is why I'M like, like, I would never, ever, ever get involved or promote. Not. Sorry, not. Not. Not promote, but like, create a brand for children or babies. It is just like. Like, they probably were sitting in a room thinking, this is funny, this is funny. But they, like, forget that you're, like, literally selling. It's like baby products.
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A
That is crazy.
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B
I don't know if it.
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A
I mean, that's crazy.
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B
Are you seeing it, Nate?
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A
I'm seeing the. How about a quickie one? I'm trying to find the other one.
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B
There's like a Reddit page about it. I guess it's probably popping off on like, tick tock and social media right now. And then it will probably hit, like, the media.
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A
I think it's an Instagram post.
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B
They probably took it down. But anyway, here you have it. We're breaking news.
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A
Are you gonna. Are you gonna post the videos?
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B
I mean, probably not if it's inappropriate.
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A
Well, there's a lot of free to stuff in that hospital bag.
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B
I don't care if they're funny about freedom moms. Like, I don't know, I feel like it's just weird. It's. But when it comes to baby stuff, it's like, let's not go there. But I. I will say that that freedom stuff, like, really does save me. I'll still be using it until somebody.
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A
Yeah, you don't have to, like, fully boycott it. You can just be angry.
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B
I'm angry.
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A
Yes.
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B
And they need to be listening and learning.
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A
Yeah. Do better.
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B
They need to do better.
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A
They need to do better.
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B
And they need to make a statement about everything.
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A
And they really should fire some probably marketing employees.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. Should we talk about my pregnancy these days? Like, what's going on? Little update. Okay, so I'm officially 36. Seven
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A
weeks and Tuesday, Thursday, she's been membrane sweeping. Sweeping.
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B
No, I did it once. What?
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A
Once?
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B
Yeah. What? I. You can't membrane sweep yourself. I mean, I guess you can, but that would be very.
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A
Oh. Oh, well, I thought. But you can do it multiple times in the office. No.
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B
Well, I think like a membrane stupid. Like, it took three rounds. It's like a three round thing.
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A
Like, and then you've had two shows.
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B
No, just one.
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A
Just. No, two. The day of and then the next day.
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B
Oh, I don't remember. It's like, I'm not gonna be track. I'm just trying to.
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A
Basically, I think we're going into labor any minute.
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B
Okay, so this is what's interesting. I'm 37 weeks and four days. Four or five days. And I've delivered all my babies at 38 and 1. 38 and 5, 38 and 6. My last pregnancy was my longest. So even though people are always like, oh, the baby comes faster on your second, third, fourth baby. That's not true. Basically everything you hear about pregnancy is not true. Like, it just. There's nothing and everything. Like, when you're sick, you're going to have a girl if you're not sick and what? No, just throw it all out the window. None of it's true. So with this baby, I was looking back at my text with my doula last. Last year, and I started texting her on December 24 that I was having contractions. I didn't deliver till January 9.
- [45:42]
A
Oh, my gosh.
- [45:43]
B
Do you remember, like, how long we were waiting for that? Like, we literally thought for, like. I think it was the same cadence. We're at 37 weeks. We were like, this baby's coming. And we were like, every night we were ready to go to the hospital. And then the baby didn't come till 38 and six days.
- [45:57]
A
Yeah.
- [45:57]
B
So that's why I'm trying not to get ahead of myself.
- [45:59]
A
But you also are getting ahead of yourself because you were for sure doing all of the things to get this baby out. You're bouncing on the ball.
- [46:05]
B
Yeah, I'm doing.
- [46:05]
A
You're doing the curb walks. You went to a shady foot spa that would give a pregnant woman all the time. Foot spa, foot massage.
- [46:14]
B
You know, we're there like, once a week.
- [46:15]
A
And you literally said to the sweet lady there, you said, get this baby out.
- [46:19]
B
No, she doesn't speak English. I was like, baby out. Baby out. And she was like, huh? And I was like, baby, ouch. Yeah. I was like, push all the pressure points. It's also because I would like to get things going so that when I do go into labor, if I'm going unmedicated, it's like, not a really long process. Like, I want it to be as far along as possible. So that's also why I'm doing these things. And the baby's big enough to where if it came. If he came right now, like, it'd be safe and fine.
- [46:46]
A
Yeah.
- [46:48]
B
So, yeah, I'm just, like, doing all the things. Like, why not? I have nothing else to do. Well, you ever hang out with my kids, which I have been doing a lot.
- [46:54]
A
Launch a divi product on Monday that you plan to hold photo shoot for, and told the CEO and cmo, but, yeah, it's fine.
- [47:00]
B
You guys are just so uptight it's just like, it's fine.
- [47:02]
A
She texted me today, and I said, I'm sure Danny has a plan B. Yeah.
- [47:06]
B
Like, everything in life is fluid.
- [47:10]
A
Fluid to your whims.
- [47:13]
B
Yeah. You know, we're just like, we're making it work. Everybody gets so stressed out. I'm like, it'll be fine. It'll be funny. It's like y' all are launching a product. I'm having a baby. Like. Like. Like, it's like daylight savings. It's like, what do we do? And they're all running around. I'm like, guys, this is what it's all about. This is the chaos. This is what makes the story good. So. So, yeah, I. I've been doing all the things. So I've been bouncing my ball. My doctor actually told me to order the primrose oil capsules. She said those. Those actually do work. I don't know anything about them, but. So I ordered those on Amazon. And then she said to drink my raspberry leaf tea three times a day. I was like, amateur. I was only doing one time a day last year, so I've been doing that three times a day. She said, we did the membrane sweep, which I did. Look up, like, online, the literature, and it does say that membrane sweeps and, like, doing it basically, are the only two things that actually scientifically speed up labor. Everything else is kind of like.
- [48:15]
A
Like, doing it, like, three times a day was. Stop. Pretty key to induce things.
- [48:20]
B
You don't. You wouldn't even want that.
- [48:22]
A
It's just science that.
- [48:24]
B
Those are the two that they said actually, like, scientifically.
- [48:27]
A
Yeah.
- [48:27]
B
Are proven. And so. But everything else, I'm just kind of like. I've been walking every day about three miles. It's so weird because typically, like, at this point in my pregnancy, I am in so much pain. Like, I can't even stand up on my own. Like, I can't walk around on my own. And this pregnancy, I've, like, not had back pain. I've not really had. I. I haven't been. In fact, I feel better when I don't wear my belly belt. My. My belly belt. Yeah, my belly belt. Because it pushes on my bladder and makes you have to pee a lot. And it doesn't really help anything, so I don't even wear it. Like, it's so weird because I depended on so, like, the chiropractor massages, all of that so much last year. That's why. I'm just saying every pregnancy is so different. Like, you really can't Compare. But what else have I been doing? We did the foot foot spa. Foot massage. I've done a little bit of curb walking. That one's kind of hard. Just. I get out of breath. Yeah. Remember we were filming a podcast?
- [49:31]
A
Yeah. Sorry.
- [49:34]
B
Jordan's on his phone. Yeah. So I've been doing all those things. I did have Jordan pack his hospital bag because I was like. I was like, just please be ready. Like, I. I'm gonna be so annoyed if, like, I go into labor, and it's, like, really intense. And Jordan's like, I have to go pack my bag. And I'd be like, I've been doing this for, like, nine months. And, like, you could. You couldn't pack your bag. You know, I could just feel the resentment building. So I, like, really was like, please just go do it.
- [50:06]
A
Yeah, the. The resentment minefield's definitely starting to form. I feel it. Like, it's like the.
- [50:13]
B
I've been good about communicating because I was like, do you know how angry I'm gonna be if, like, I'm in the worst pain of my life? And you're like, I'm gonna go pack my bag because I didn't do it the last week every single day when you asked me, you know, and you only pack, like, six things.
- [50:27]
A
I know it was easy, but still,
- [50:29]
B
like, I want to be ready.
- [50:31]
A
You want to be ready.
- [50:32]
B
It needs to be about me.
- [50:34]
A
There's a shot list for filming.
- [50:36]
B
Yeah.
- [50:37]
A
Very stressed about that because I gotta execute that one pretty well. And there's been little other things. Like, you know, we were at this restaurant the other day, Smokey Rose.
- [50:47]
B
Oh, yeah. I was trying to do spicy food. That was another one.
- [50:50]
A
Yeah. And there were a lot of kids playing outside, and.
- [50:54]
B
Oh. Oh, yeah. This is a good conversation. Actually.
- [50:57]
A
I was watching our kids, and I. There was, like, a group of girls, and it seemed like the girls were being kind of mean to Stella and Stratton.
- [51:07]
B
Oh, my gosh. They were just.
- [51:08]
A
I didn't hear anything. Just. Hold on. I didn't hear anything. I just sort of saw from afar, and I was letting them work it out.
- [51:16]
B
It was like a group of, like, four or five girls that were Stella's age that were, like, probably all went to school together, and then Stella and Stratton would come over, and so it kind of just looked like they were having. You know, it's just like kids meeting kids. It almost looked like they were having a standoff, but it was very much like. Like, you know, it was like four, verse, two, but it wasn't like they were fighting. It was just like a com, you know, they were just meeting up like that.
- [51:39]
A
Yeah. And so I kind of felt like I was like, it just seemed reasonable to ask.
- [51:48]
B
Well, no. So what happened was, you know, I was watching them play and. And Stella would go up and talk to them, and then she would run away with Stratton and then go back and play with them. And there was no fighting. Like, nothing like, like obvious. And honestly, they might not have been fighting. Like, I don't know what was going on, but I was watching from afar. And Stella wasn't crying. She wasn't coming as saying anybody's mean nothing. And typically she would. Yeah, well, this mom came over with like a three year old, like a little baby girl. And it was actually really sweet. She was like, my daughter felt like convicted to come say apologize to Stella because apparently she told Stella to get out of this world.
- [52:24]
A
That's pretty harsh.
- [52:26]
B
And so, so. But this little girl was crying, Crying. And Stella was like, oh, like, it's fine. Like, she wasn't. She wasn't like, yeah, mommy, this three year old was being mean to me because it was also like a baby. Like a three year old. Like Stella's five, you know, and so it wasn't like Stella was like acting like she was hurt.
- [52:42]
A
It confirmed my suspicions.
- [52:44]
B
But it's like, kids stay, stuff like that. That doesn't mean the whole group was against her. Like, and Stella had not come to us and said, these girls are being mean to me. She was happy as a. As a clam. We were leaving. She was all good, no complaints. So we're walking out and then Jordan says, he looks at Stella.
- [53:03]
A
It's very controversial. I said, were those girls being mean to you? And Danny says, no.
- [53:08]
B
And then Stella, all of a sudden, she's happy as a. As a clam. And then she looks down and she's like, she. She takes the bait and she victimizes herself. And she's like, yeah. And I'm like, dude, you were fine five seconds ago. I go, babe, why did you ask her that? I was like, let her come and tell us. Now she's the victim of this whole evening. And now everything revolves around Stella. When I was like, if that would happen to me when I was a kid, my mom had been like, go back up there and tell them that they were being mean. Like, you know, and like, go. Like, it's not that big of a deal. But I feel like Jordan was like, what? You were like, wanting to be like, we're The. Those girls being mean to you. Oh, come here.
- [53:45]
A
So Danny said.
- [53:46]
B
I said, I'm not gonna raise Stella to be a victim.
- [53:48]
A
Yeah.
- [53:48]
B
And I was like, if. If the girls are being mean to you, come tell mommy. I'll come help you out. But, like, we're not gonna, like, whine and complain about these girl. Like, it's. It's just kids, you know? And I'm not gonna be like, every. Stella already victimizes herself so much. Like, she'll get in trouble. She'll be like, why do you even want me? Why do you want me? Like, why do you even love me? You want to send me to a new family? I'm like, no, still, we love you. We're obsessed with. With you. Like, girls are already so, like, victim mindset anyway. That, like, I just. I just feel like if she's gonna be. If she's hurt or she has her feelings hurt or something, I want her to come to us and tell us.
- [54:28]
A
Yeah.
- [54:29]
B
I don't want to just assume, like, tough. Like, you can't, like.
- [54:34]
A
Yeah. That was the first time that I really felt we were entering into just the. The pregnancy landmines.
- [54:43]
B
Oh, stop. That's, like, parenting.
- [54:44]
A
No, no, for sure, but. And so then that happened. And then the next morning. Oh, my God.
- [54:51]
B
Did you just keep tallies about everything?
- [54:53]
A
No, no, no.
- [54:54]
B
Okay.
- [54:55]
A
Okay.
- [54:55]
B
What was it?
- [54:55]
A
No. So then the next morning, Stella, like, almost pulled a shelf out, and then I reacted, and I was like, stella, what are we doing?
- [55:04]
B
Oh, please. That is so. Okay. Stella was trying to get her own cup because she is miss Independent, okay? She's, like, awesome. And she doesn't need help for everything because mama didn't raise no whip. Okay? So she's, like, getting her own cup. She's gonna, like, pour her own milk, get her own cereal, whatever, and she's reaching for something, and the whole, like, shelf kind of like. Like. Like, kind of, like, pulls out.
- [55:34]
A
Yeah. No, no, it doesn't make a noise. You didn't see it. It, like, literally fell. No, it did. I. I put it back.
- [55:42]
B
Okay. But it didn't, like, fall on the ground.
- [55:44]
A
No, but it was like she had pulled it out, and the shelf, like, fell backwards.
- [55:48]
B
Okay, well, and then Jordan looks at and goes, stella. And you get mad at her. When I was like. I was like, I don't feel like that should. Something we should be mad about. I feel like she was trying to be independent, and it was an accident, so we should be concerned but not, like, get her in trouble. So she, like, he got Mad. And then she ran to her room and locked herself and goes, why do you want me? I'm a horrible daughter. And I was like, jordan, she was trying to be independent. It was an accident. It wasn't like she was doing something wrong. But you. I felt like you made her feel like she was doing something wrong.
- [56:21]
A
Yeah, it was hard because everyone in that moment felt misunderstood. I felt misunderstood. I was like, I was just trying to fix the shelf. You were like, my daughter's trying to be independent. You better let my daughter be independent. I was like, I want our daughter to be independent, too. And then Stella was like, okay. No, I know. That's why I felt misunderstood in the moment, because I was like, I agree, but it's.
- [56:41]
B
I think the, like, if you get in trouble for an accident, then it makes me feel like I wouldn't be able to take risks anymore as a child.
- [56:48]
A
No, I know, and I understand. Maybe that was in the inflection of my voice, but I didn't care that she almost broke the shell.
- [56:55]
B
Yeah, it was the inflection.
- [56:56]
A
It was the inflection. And so then I was like, okay, I gotta. So I wouldn't apologize. And then I was. Yeah.
- [57:04]
B
Yeah. Those are parenting things, though, I feel like.
- [57:07]
A
Yeah, I know.
- [57:08]
B
I typically, like, really pick and choose my battles.
- [57:11]
A
I know. You bite your tongue so much and towards your horrible husband.
- [57:16]
B
No, I'm just saying the stuff that I. I feel like will affect the way that they, like, like, grow into humans are the things I usually. Yeah, say something about.
- [57:28]
A
No, I bit my tongue, too.
- [57:30]
B
Okay, fine.
- [57:31]
A
We'll just keep biting our tongues and not communicate.
- [57:35]
B
Let's do it. Is there something I do with our kids that you feel like is going to mess them up when they're older?
- [57:43]
A
No. Is there something you feel like I do with our kids?
- [57:46]
B
No. I'm actually genuinely asking because.
- [57:48]
A
No.
- [57:50]
B
Am I a little too tough on him sometimes?
- [57:52]
A
No. I. I honestly think that what we're coming up against is that we were just raised different. Not better, worse, just raised very different.
- [58:00]
B
You had love, I had.
- [58:02]
A
You had survival. Like. Yeah. You could have survived on the streets and sold fake cats for money.
- [58:11]
B
I did do that.
- [58:12]
A
And I could have nurtured a small bird. Like, I don't know. Like, I mean. And so what you're coming up against is we're both trying to prevent.
- [58:23]
B
Well, we had. We. I asked a very existential question last night in the car. I was like, what do you think is better being raised by a family that, like, thinks you can do no, wrong. Or being raised by a family that you're always in the wrong if you had to pick one.
- [58:45]
A
Yeah. I don't know. I think the challenge of. Okay, here's what I would say is I think the reason that we are such a good team is because we were raised under very different styles. Not better, worse. Just different styles. And I feel like I am trying to find a happy medium, and I feel like you are, too. And sometimes I push my direction too much, and sometimes you push your direction too much, and we just have to rebalance.
- [59:15]
B
Yeah. Yeah. But I, I, I will say I've kind of softened up. Like, I feel like, especially with Stratton.
- [59:22]
A
Yeah, no, you. You have softened up a ton. But I still think that the root of. The root of both of us is realizing the pros of how we were raised.
- [59:34]
B
Yeah.
- [59:35]
A
And making sure that those things are instilled.
- [59:37]
B
Yeah. So, like, but also, like, fixing the cons.
- [59:41]
A
Yes. Like Stratton. Stratton, for example. I see a lot of myself as a kid in him.
- [59:47]
B
Yeah.
- [59:48]
A
Where he's like, he doesn't. He doesn't have a ton of grit yet. He doesn't have a ton of resilience. Like, if he breaks his Lego, he kind of, like, collapses. Like, he doesn't have this fundamental belief
- [60:00]
B
that he can do it.
- [60:01]
A
That he can do it, and that his actions dictate, like, the outcomes.
- [60:06]
B
Like, he's responsible for the outcome.
- [60:09]
A
Yes. Like, agency. Like, he doesn't believe that he has agency yet. And I feel like that was something that when you're over nurtured, you know, like, you can go your whole life feeling like you don't have agency. And I think agency is the most important aspect of, like, being, like, surviving in the real world and being successful in the real world. Yeah. As a male. And it's, like, really built into, like, what I think you're like, a wife will expect from you.
- [60:36]
B
Yeah.
- [60:37]
A
As a provider and as a protector. And so, you know, I don't. I almost want a little bit more of your style for Stratton.
- [60:45]
B
I know, but it's harder. It's. It's less natural for me to be like that towards Stratton.
- [60:50]
A
But anyway, I point being, we don't usually fight over, like, who's right or who's wrong, you know, in, in terms of, like, parenting styles. I genuinely believe that it's more you snapping at me or snipping at me for the Stella thing.
- [61:09]
B
Okay.
- [61:10]
A
No, just.
- [61:11]
B
I did not snip at you. I was like, babe, I Came to you.
- [61:15]
A
It was a little bit more like babe. Wasn't like babe. It was like babe. No, it was.
- [61:23]
B
No, I know, because, you know, I, it was a process of me bringing that up to you.
- [61:27]
A
You know, if you're just gonna get defensive.
- [61:29]
B
Okay, you know what? You're right. I. Okay, I snip. Snapped. Now what? Tommy?
- [61:36]
A
It just, Overall, it didn't bother me. I just, I feel like we're entering into that stage of birth and postpartum where there might be a couple more snaps.
- [61:46]
B
I was super clear minded, though. Like, I didn't feel hormonal.
- [61:49]
A
I know.
- [61:50]
B
When I brought that up, I know I felt very, like, Danny. Grounded.
- [61:53]
A
Yeah.
- [61:55]
B
It's so hard to bring up, like, things about your spouse that you want them to work on. It's like, there's no right way to do it.
- [62:03]
A
No, I, I think you've done it in the right way.
- [62:06]
B
It, like, I, I genuinely feel like I try so hard sometimes where, like, I will sit on it for like, 30 minutes and be like, like, okay, like, how do I do this? Or do I, or like, or do
- [62:17]
A
I say the times that you come to me and you're like, hey, you know, I'm not judging. Like, you're, you like, preface a lot and you're like, I just want to, like, say, you know, can you please just, like, not do this with the dish? I feel like I always heed the, the advice because I'm like, she's not coming from a bad place. Like, she's not angry. She's not being irrational.
- [62:37]
B
I know. It just never feels like it's done
- [62:39]
A
right, you know, when you're trying to
- [62:41]
B
communicate that or anything, like bad, negative, it should never feel. But, I mean, is there a way to. It's just, you know, it's just hard,
- [62:53]
A
you know, the best times, you do it right here on this podcast. You want to try? You want to tell me something? What else have you been biting your tongue about? I mean, maybe I don't.
- [63:07]
B
No, I can't.
- [63:08]
A
Like, anything. Something light. No, I, I, not the deep tracks. It's Friday.
- [63:15]
B
I know. I'm. Babe, I'm not gonna, like, trust me, I have discernment.
- [63:19]
A
Okay.
- [63:19]
B
I'm not gonna bring up something horrible right now. I'm trying to think of something. No, I mean, I feel like everything's, like, I can't think of anything.
- [63:28]
A
I, I, I've been throwing away my contact lenses sometimes past four days since
- [63:35]
B
you told me there were a couple on there, though. But it's okay. I Honestly, don't even get mad about it anymore.
- [63:41]
A
Yeah. Yeah. I don't have anything. I really don't. I was saying before on the podcast
- [63:49]
B
thing is, like, also, like, you never have anything to, like, criticize about me.
- [63:53]
A
What does that say?
- [63:54]
B
I'm perfect. I'm kidding. You're just more easygoing, probably.
- [64:02]
A
Well, I feel like last year you thought I had a ton of things to criticize about you.
- [64:06]
B
Oh, yeah, you did.
- [64:08]
A
Yeah.
- [64:10]
B
I'm better now, though. I'm perfect.
- [64:13]
A
You're perfect. The only thing I would say, and I said this before the podcast, and we never got to. This is the reason. The reason I don't want to have any more kids is not because I don't want more kids. It's because I just want you back.
- [64:29]
B
I know. I don't like being touched right now. And that's probably. That's probably the number one thing that bothers you about me.
- [64:34]
A
Yeah. Sometimes I feel like you don't. I know you love me, but I'm like, do you like me?
- [64:38]
B
No, I like you and love you.
- [64:40]
A
No, I know. I know. But, like, sometimes it's like, I know that, and I'll tell myself that. Yeah, but there's no. There's no. There's no proof in the pudding right now.
- [64:50]
B
Totally. I get that. And I know it's hard, and. But that's just like, something like. Like, I don't. I, like, literally don't know how to fix right now.
- [64:56]
A
No. No. And I don't. That's why I don't want to make you feel guilty about it. But I am looking forward to not having more children for that reason. Because.
- [65:04]
B
Normal.
- [65:05]
A
Yeah. Because right after you were coming back.
- [65:08]
B
Yeah. I was like.
- [65:09]
A
We were in Aspen, and I was like, we're back. We're at cool dinners. Yeah, she's looking hot. Yeah, we're feeling good.
- [65:16]
B
I was wearing my size jeans.
- [65:17]
A
Yeah, she's feeling good. And a lot of it has to do more with how you feel about your. Yourself.
- [65:22]
B
Yeah, for sure.
- [65:23]
A
That, I mean, is what I mean by, like, having you back. Because it's not that you're not here. It's that I know you physically, mentally, emotionally don't feel good.
- [65:32]
B
Oh, it's like, so, like, just being touched is, like.
- [65:34]
A
Yeah.
- [65:35]
B
And so tense up all over.
- [65:36]
A
So it was April. What? No, no. July of last year. And then boom.
- [65:41]
B
I would say it was like the clock reset. It was like May or June, too.
- [65:45]
A
I'll never forget that.
- [65:47]
B
It's like that WNBA game.
- [65:49]
A
It wasn't That I wasn't like, oh, my gosh, we're gonna have four kids. It's never been that. For me, it was like, I, like, now have to go through the season of.
- [65:58]
B
Well, I think that's why some people have more kids than others, because they can handle pregnancy in that, like, timeline. So much better.
- [66:06]
A
Yeah. I don't.
- [66:07]
B
Some people, like, love it.
- [66:10]
A
I don't know. I don't know what to compare it to, but. Do you think you have easy pregnancies?
- [66:15]
B
No. No.
- [66:16]
A
I think you. Your body does not like pregnancy.
- [66:20]
B
God is like, let's not do this again.
- [66:22]
A
Yeah. No, I. Yeah, some. Yeah. It doesn't seem like you.
- [66:28]
B
No, not at all. I feel like I have very tough pregnancies in every way, like, mentally, physically, whatever. But, you know, I'm also. It's tough to say that because we're also really blessed and like, I've never had, like an actual issue in my pregnancy. There's a lot of people that have had, like, like, really hard things happen. Mine's more just like, I don't feel
- [66:49]
A
great, you know, but you know what I look forward to now is we're gonna get this baby into the world. Then we find out about what schools we're gonna be in. Then we get to move and we kind of get to like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna snip it.
- [67:01]
B
Yeah. Okay.
- [67:02]
A
Get the, get the, get the vasectomy.
- [67:04]
B
Okay.
- [67:05]
A
And then we get to kind of just like, just coast. Just kind of like chill for a little while.
- [67:10]
B
Yeah.
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A
Like, kind of rebuild our life.
- [67:14]
B
Totally.
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A
You know?
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B
Totally.
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A
And if we want chaos, can we just not do it in the form of another pregnancy?
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
Because we'll want some chaos. We'll get bored.
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B
Another divvy launch, like, you know.
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A
Yeah. Like hit the dopamine some other way. But like, let's just not get.
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B
No, I'm good with that.
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A
We did it.
- [67:34]
B
Yeah.
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A
We built the family.
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B
Yeah. I want to get like, more into like, like Valentine's Day gifts, like, for like, the kids, like, skydiving time to.
- [67:42]
A
You love to skydive?
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B
I love skydiving. That's a good one. But I didn't have time to like, really invest in like, like the Valentine, like, get excited about, like, getting my kids Valentine's gifts ready. So I just did like the typical, like, grocery store bought ones and like, I could probably hit some dopamine highs just with that.
- [68:00]
A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah. You know?
- [68:02]
A
Yeah. And so, I mean, are we going to be here? Are we going to be in Nashville. It's so. It's exciting.
- [68:06]
B
No, it is.
- [68:07]
A
There's some good dopamine hits, for sure.
- [68:09]
B
I'm going on maternity leave.
- [68:10]
A
Okay.
- [68:11]
B
I probably might be back sooner than later. I also have this dream of, like, I want to reach out to, like, eight guests that Jordan is obsessed with, and I want him to do, like, solo episodes with all of these, like, really interesting men. I don't really like talking to men on my podcast.
- [68:26]
A
You really don't?
- [68:26]
B
I actually don't really like men at all. Like, I really don't want them around at all. Like, I don't want a male doctor. I don't want a male, like, well, Charlie cuts my hair. He's cool. I don't know. But I'm just, like, a very. I'm a girls girl.
- [68:40]
A
Yeah.
- [68:41]
B
Anyway, so I want you to interview all these, like, cool men, and so we'll see if that happens. I feel like it would be good for you on your paternity leave.
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A
Okay.
- [68:52]
B
But we'll see. Okay. So, yeah, I'll be back. I don't know when. Probably, like, how many months do we have? Maybe two months. Oh, one month. Honestly, like, I. I might get bored. Like, I might be, like.
- [69:03]
A
I'm telling you, you'll be back in two weeks.
- [69:05]
B
I'll probably be back in two weeks, but. Okay. We love you guys, and we'll talk to you later.
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A
Bye.
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B
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