Pregnant and Absolutely Losing It

Summary

Podcast Summary: De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan

Episode: Pregnant and Absolutely Losing It

Date: January 29, 2026
Hosts: Dani & Jordan
Podcast Network: Dear Media

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Overview

This episode is a candid, humorous, and sometimes tender peek into Dani and Jordan’s lives as Dani navigates late-stage pregnancy. They reflect on the emotional ups and downs of this period, their quirky relationship dynamics, parenting challenges, influencer life nostalgia, and hot topics in pop culture. The episode balances lighthearted personal anecdotes with genuine “de-influencing” commentary, providing both laughs and honest confessions.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Relationship Quirks and Late Pregnancy Emotions

• Dani feels disconnected: Dani opens up about feeling like Jordan’s disengaged during their conversations, often retreating into his phone. She wonders if she’s being ignored, leading to relatable "am I annoying you?" moments.
  • [00:19] — “I feel like I have to get something off my chest.”
• Jordan defends his habits: Jordan explains it’s not about Dani, but about work-related messages and routines, like his need for a specific coffee cup from Merit to start his day.
  • [05:13] — "If I drink this coffee from Merit in this cup, then I feel more prepared for the day and excited about the day."
• Rituals & routines: They explore the idea that small rituals—like clothes, morning routines—help minimize decision fatigue for busy parents.
• Humor about neediness: Both poke fun at each other’s shifting neediness, with Dani admitting her emotions and needs are heightened lately.

2. Pregnancy Unfiltered

• Food Cravings & Funny Stories: Dani describes her relentless pregnancy hunger and failed snack experiments, like dipping bagels in spinach dip due to lack of cream cheese.
  • [12:09] — “I caught Danny eating a bagel... dipping it in spinach dip.”
  • [12:45] — “You’re just like... It’s like giant bites.”
• Snoring and Sleep Struggles: Dani’s pregnancy snoring becomes a running joke as they try to replicate the sound and debate the merits of mouth taping and CPAP machines.
  • [20:13] — “It wakes me up.”
  • [21:06] — “Do I snore all night or is it, like, for increments?”
• Hormonal tears: Dani describes how her emotions bubble up, recalling a recent night she just needed to cry—while wearing a princess crown and munching snacks. Jordan recalls:
  • [09:39] — “I did put a princess crown...She was just crying with the snack in her hand, the princess crown. It was great.”
• Coping with body changes: Dani humorously addresses her changing body and wardrobe, sharing her love for Aerie sweats.
  • [11:35] — “All my sweats are from Aerie…it’s the offline brand. I go up to a large when I’m pregnant…”

3. Parenting, School Applications, and Private School Debates

• Uniforms Reduce Stress: Dani suggests that uniforms make mornings less stressful for parents, wishing more schools implemented them.
  • [07:58] — “I think every school should wear uniforms.”
• Private vs Public: They joke about private schools feeling like “socialism” or “communism” when it comes to uniforms, a tongue-in-cheek moment.
  • [08:06] — “It’s kind of giving socialism a little bit.” – Dani
• Both express the daily anxiety around getting kids ready and finding efficiency in simple choices.

4. Influencer Life & Business Nostalgia

• Throwback to TikTok rise: Dani reminisces about their early TikTok success and viral “my wife is crazy” content Jordan filmed.
  • [10:26] — "You used to video a lot of stuff... We pioneered the my wife thing back on tik tok in 2021.”
• Building Divi (their business brand): They discuss their lack of experience at the start, learning as they went, and how Shopify made launching their brand possible.
  • [15:56] — "If we waited until we knew everything before starting Divi, Divi would not exist." – Dani
  • [16:18] — “It was just me and you in Stratton Unborn Stratton’s nursery and saying, we’re gonna turn this idea into something big.” – Jordan
• Entrepreneurial advice: They encourage listeners to “just start” with their business ideas, emphasizing the importance of not waiting to feel ready.
  • [18:45] — "January is the moment to stop overthinking and just start." — Dani

5. Social Media Trends: Authenticity vs. Curation

• Pendulum Swing: Dani observes the shift from overly curated to “relatable,” now swinging back again to curation and artistry, as users tire of fake authenticity.
  • [59:58] — "Pendulum is now swinging back to more curated content and more like art..."
• Posting Less: They cite a BBC article noting that a third of users post less than they did five years ago; social media (besides Facebook groups for moms) feels less essential for younger people.
  • [61:27] — “For me, but I didn’t know that was for other people. I mean, my screen timeline...”
• Facebook nostalgia: Dani confesses she sometimes stalks old friends on Facebook; they laugh about Facebook's confusing interface.
  • [64:21] — "Once a month I go and like, stalk someone from my past..."

6. Pop Culture Deep Dive: The Blake Lively–Justin Baldoni Feud

• ‘It Ends With Us’ Movie Drama: Dani thoroughly unpacks the feud between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni over rival movie edits, how texts and emails among celebrities (including Taylor Swift, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck) were entered into public record, and how this fallout possibly ended Lively’s friendship with Swift.
  • [71:45] — “Blake wrote all these emails… asking them to, like, basically back her edit and not Justin’s.”
  • [76:29] — "If I was Taylor, I would be pissed off, too, that I’m even being included in this conversation..."
• Privacy & Text Leaks: The hosts debate whether they'd rather have their bank accounts drained or their messages leaked, agreeing it's a “yucky” invasion—even though theirs are pretty sanitized just in case.
  • [69:32] — "Probably my text messages released." – Dani
• Reflections on Fame & PR Fallout: They note that both stars look bad by dragging the issue into full public view, and muse on why “narcissist” is an overused accusation in celebrity culture.
  • [82:00] — “It’s getting out of hand how many times we’re using narcissists these days.” – Jordan

7. Additional Pop Culture: Brooklyn Beckham’s Family Drama

• Beckham Family Fallout: Dani and Jordan break down Brooklyn Beckham’s public outcry against his parents via Instagram Stories, the accusations of narcissism and leaking, and question the wisdom of airing family drama online.
  • [83:27] — "You think you look like you’re coming out the stronger person... to me, it makes me not want to, like, touch you with a 10 inch pole." – Dani
• Insight on Family Dynamics: They discuss mother-in-law/daughter-in-law relationships, drawing on experiences in their own family, and why Brooklyn may regret his words.
  • [88:06] — "Just the way you did it was, like, super caddy. You could have made a post defending yourself without attacking, but I don’t know." – Dani

8. Lighthearted Bickering & Familiarity

• "You do this to yourself": Dani accuses Jordan of seeking rejection in their relationship, especially regarding physical affection at inconvenient times, and spatially “inept” behaviors.
  • [29:01] — "I could get mad right now, but I was like, this is so crazy. I'm just gonna ignore it and text the text." – Jordan
• Jokes about the everyday: Whether it’s Jordan’s annoying habit of offering a hand at the wrong time, or Dani counting how often she keeps quiet instead of “nagging,” their marriage feels lived-in, real, and fundamentally affectionate—even while poking fun at each other’s worst traits.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On emotional swings and snacking:
  • "You were just crying with the snack in your hand, the princess crown. It was great. I should have videoed that." – Jordan [09:39]
  • "I just feel like I need to cry." – Dani [09:46]
• On neediness and ritual:
  • "I feel like you… you play me hot and cold." – Jordan [08:29]
• On the influencer bubble:
  • “If we waited until we knew everything before starting Divi, Divi would not exist.” – Dani [15:56]
• On the social media pendulum:
  • “I don’t feel like anything is authentic.” – Dani [60:01]
• On celebrity drama:
  • “I really think that’s probably why [Taylor and Blake] are not friends anymore. It seems like Blake kind of lives in Blake’s world…” – Dani [76:30]
• On family feuds:
  • “Just the way you did it was, like, super caddy. You could have made a post defending yourself without attacking, but I don’t know.” – Dani [88:06]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Relationship Routines & Coffee Talk: [04:30] – [08:30]
• Pregnancy Snacking & Snoring: [12:00] – [22:30]
• TikTok & Brand Building: [10:26] – [17:02]
• Social Media Nostalgia & Trends: [59:43] – [64:13]
• Blake Lively/Justin Baldoni Feud: [68:16] – [80:11]
• Brooklyn Beckham Family Drama: [81:08] – [89:31]
• Pop Culture, TV & Book Recs: [48:06] – [56:03]

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Memorable Moments

• Dani attempts snoring impressions:
  • “Can you film me next time I'm doing it?” – Dani [20:44]
• Dani declares herself spatially “aware,” critiques Jordan:
  • [29:09] onwards – Dani describes Jordan’s lack of spatial awareness with strollers and hand-holding at the wrong times.
• Jordan’s ritual coffee “itch”:
  • “It's like an itch. And then I, like, I can't scratch it, you know?” – Jordan [06:08]

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Tone & Language

The episode is playful, honest, occasionally self-deprecating, and peppered with inside jokes. Both hosts maintain an irreverent, affectionate, and unfiltered tone, often swerving from silly bickering to substantive commentary without losing charm.

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Takeaways

• Dani & Jordan are in the thick of late pregnancy, and their relationship dynamics—frustrations, emotional needs, and inside jokes—reflect this.
• They offer both comic relief and relatable insight into the overwhelm of parenting, partnership, social media, and modern pop culture.
• Their “de-influencing” isn’t about rejecting everything, but about cutting through the facade, whether it’s influencer perfection or celebrity PR drama.
• The episode is as much about laughing at life’s inconveniences as it is about being honest with your partner, your career, and the illusions spun by social media and fame.

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For fans of frank couple talk, influencer industry nostalgia, and smart but relatable pop culture breakdowns, this episode is a must-listen.

Transcript

[Jordan]

Foreign.

[Danny]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

[Jordan]

Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast.

[Danny]

No, no, I do it. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast.

[Jordan]

D Influenced.

[Danny]

I feel like I have to get something off my chest.

[Jordan]

I know what you're gonna say.

[Danny]

Really? You know me that well?

[Jordan]

Yeah, what you're gonna say. You don't feel like I've been listening to you? Oh, my God.

[Danny]

How did you know?

[Jordan]

Because I know.

[Danny]

I feel like you have been on your phone.

[Jordan]

Like, every time.

[Danny]

Every time I talk to you, you pull up your phone. It's like as soon as you hear my voice, you pull up your phone and disengage. Am I annoying to you?

[Jordan]

Is it. Is it just this morning, though?

[Danny]

No, it was yesterday too.

[Jordan]

Well, it was. It was yesterday when you really wanted to talk about how you felt about, you know, certain things. But I. I took.

[Danny]

Remember I tried to talk to you last night about, like, a reality. Oh, I was trying to talk to you about, like, that. That AI Instagram.

[Jordan]

Actually, that's where it started. It started because Danny wanted me to show me the AI food talking.

[Danny]

Have you seen those videos where it's like, I'm a banana. Don't put me next to the other fruits because I release toxins and I'll kill them. And then it's like, I'm a bowl of rice. Don't eat me after 24 hours because I develop some type of bacteria that can kill your gut. And it's like all these, like, fruits and vegetables, like, yelling at you.

[Jordan]

No, it really did start at that moment because you were like, I want to show you. And I go, I'm. I'm good, babe. I'll watch it later.

[Danny]

I, like, even played it out. I was like, babe, you have to watch it. And I tried to, like, play it out. And he was like, oh, yeah, that's so funny. I don't really want to watch it.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And you were.

[Danny]

And then I go, why are you being such a loser?

[Jordan]

And then I watched it and we watched like four or five clips. And then you hand me your phone as though like, I needed to keep watching them while you went and got a snack.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

So that's when it started.

[Danny]

You didn't actually want to be watching them?

[Jordan]

No.

[Danny]

You said they were so interesting.

[Jordan]

They were interesting. They're very fact filled and fun.

[Danny]

What is so important about your life right now that you can't watch a bowl of rice yell at you?

[Jordan]

It's not that my life is important. It's just sometimes I'm Just kind of like, I don't. I don't want to right now.

[Danny]

Yeah, I get it. But you haven't really wanted to for, like, 24 hours. 48 hours.

[Jordan]

24 hours.

[Danny]

No, it's at least. I would say at least. Well, let me think. At least 36 hours.

[Jordan]

No, it hasn't even been 24 hours because that was last night at 9.

[Danny]

No, but it was. It's been all day yesterday, too. Babe, listen, I just want to know what you're reading on your text messages. That's all I want to know. Like, and they're so extensive. Like, you're getting paragraphs, and I'm like, what is going on? Like, I feel like something is happening.

[Jordan]

Is that what you think?

[Danny]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

[Jordan]

Usually. So this is what Danny's feeling. Usually when I get canceled. When she gets canceled, it used to be that I harbored it and she.

[Danny]

Hide it from me for, like.

[Jordan]

And then I would try and solve it behind the scenes with, like, the team and the crisis on the phone.

[Danny]

And they were secretly talking about how I was being canceled. And, like, I always knew. Like, I always had an inkling because I was like, nobody's talking to me anymore. Everybody's just talking about me and being secretive because they don't want me to find out. But now I'm going to have to go online and find out. So then I find out myself, and then they already know.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I think that trauma is just stored in your body. What I'm texting has nothing to do with you.

[Danny]

But why are they so lengthy?

[Jordan]

Because I'm asking very complicated questions about, like, certain, like, areas of our ad spend at Divi. It's so boring. The reason I don't tell you is not because I'm hiding something from you. I just know you don't care.

[Danny]

But I do care.

[Jordan]

I'm asking, and it's just so funny because you're so fickle. Like. Like, I. I've been more needy lately.

[Danny]

Okay.

[Jordan]

No, no, no.

[Danny]

I had a bad day. I cried last night. Was that the night before?

[Jordan]

That was the night before.

[Danny]

See what I'm saying?

[Jordan]

But you're so. You're so in and out with your neediness because, like, I'm always down to engage. And then you kind of, like, condition me to be, like, leave me alone. I just need to, like, be left alone. And then I get into that mode, and then you're, like, needy again, and then it's like, so I just don't know.

[Danny]

So you're saying I'm the problem. No, I get it. I.

[Jordan]

But honestly, there's nothing deeper this morning than we were running late to a school tour, and I didn't get to stop and get my coffee. And this is my first real cup.

[Danny]

Are you. Are you okay?

[Jordan]

No, I'm not.

[Danny]

I'm.

[Jordan]

I'm actually. I was feeling very hungry and very lethargic.

[Danny]

Why didn't you eat and get coffee here before we left?

[Jordan]

Well.

[Danny]

I was just curious, like. So is this, like, everybody else's fault, though?

[Jordan]

No, it's not everyone else. It's just, like, my ritual. Like, I feel the best when I wake up and I make the kids breakfast, and then I go get my coffee at Merit, and then I get this specific cup. The. The.

[Danny]

He didn't have his cup, ladies and gentlemen.

[Jordan]

The cup. And then it's like. I don't know if it's just me or it's like, placebo effect, but if I drink this coffee from Merit in this cup, then I feel more prepared for the day and excited about the day. And so it was like.

[Danny]

It is very interesting because we do make coffee from home, and we get the. Right now we've been drinking the death wish one.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

And so I drink a cup of that every morning. And Jordan, like, we have the coffee made, but we'll go and drive to Merit and get that cup of coffee, which I don't really care. It's totally fine with me if that's, like, built. I don't like a cup of coffee. Whatever. Like, you do you.

[Jordan]

It's my routine.

[Danny]

But what's hard is when, like, we are running late or, like, something is going on. It's usually, like, very early in the morning, like, we have to go to an appointment or we have to go to the airport or whatever. And, like, we're running late, and Jordan's like, I have to stop and get my cup of coffee. And I'm like, babe, this doesn't make sense today.

[Jordan]

I know, but then it's like. It's like a. It's like an itch. And then I, like, I can't scratch it, you know?

[Danny]

So you're.

[Jordan]

So Then I'm like, no, I. It's just. I don't know how to explain it. Like, these are. I can't be crazy. Like, surely people in the audience drink from the same cup of coffee every day.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And it's, like, part of the ritual. It would be like, if I didn't. Oh, this is a great example. If I brush my teeth or Shower before bringing you your cup of coffee.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

It kind of throws off your morning. Right.

[Danny]

That's like a pregnancy thing. But yeah.

[Jordan]

Well, sure. But, like, still, you get what I'm saying?

[Danny]

Yeah. Because usually when I'm not pregnant, I'm like. I'm like, boing. I'm like, up, I think.

[Jordan]

So here's my best. I think that moms and dads have so much mental load that if they have to make decisions, it's kind of the same reason I wear the same thing every day. I think, too you are like Mark Zuckerberg, because the mental load of having to, like, think about.

[Danny]

Oh, no, sorry, Steve Jobs.

[Jordan]

Think about, like, what? Another decision on top of the all the other decisions. It overwhelms me.

[Danny]

Babe, you are appreciating to the choir about that.

[Jordan]

No, I know, I know. You understand.

[Danny]

That's why I honestly need my kids to go to private school. Because the thought of getting them dressed every single day for it, it gives me anxiety.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Like, the thought that I have to, like, also go and, like, buy them so many new clothes. Like, my brother wear a uniform every day to school. And I. I, at the time, I was like, that's so lame. And like, like, loser. But. But, like, now I look back, I'm like, that's amazing that that took away. Like, they didn't even have to think about that. And they didn't. I would spend like an hour the night before I try on outfits for school the next day. But it was, like, so fun for me. Like, that was just. But for people that don't like it, like, that's horrible. It's miserable. I think every school should wear uniforms.

[Jordan]

I agree.

[Danny]

No matter, like, if it's like, public.

[Jordan]

Private, I think we should use. We're just. We should all wear the same thing in life.

[Danny]

It's kind of giving socialism a little bit.

[Jordan]

Socialism, Communism.

[Danny]

Communism, yeah.

[Jordan]

Dictatorship.

[Danny]

Socialism is when you're all paid the same. Yeah, communism is when. But socialism is like, when you're all treated the same.

[Jordan]

Socialism. Well, it's like you. You disperse the resources. The government. Yeah, the government does.

[Danny]

Yeah. So, like, we're equal. Like, everybody wears the same thing.

[Jordan]

Anyway, I want you to know that I am not disinterested in you. I'm just trying to kind of ride your vibes. And you're playing me hot and cold.

[Danny]

My vibes. The past 48 hours have been snuggle. 48 hours have been snuggle. Have been. Do you want to go get a massage with me? Have been wake up in the morning, give you a hug, have been at night, me opening up to you and telling you that I feel sad. And I cried. So I've been actually very emotionally available for the past 48 hours.

[Jordan]

You cried. When you cried, it was so. It was so hormonal. Can we just agree on that? It was hormonal. And I don't know if you knew this, but, like, you were like, I feel like I just need to cry. And then you were, like.

[Danny]

So hard.

[Jordan]

You were, like, trying so hard to cry. And you were like.

[Danny]

Really? I didn't feel that way. Drugs.

[Jordan]

It's like you just wanted it to flow because the, like, it was just. It was so pent up. It was just pent up. Like you just needed a good cry.

[Danny]

I thought you were gonna talk about the fact that you put that crown on me.

[Jordan]

Oh, no. Yeah, I did put a princess crown because she kept, like. I don't know. You asked me, like, to do seven different.

[Danny]

Oh, yeah.

[Jordan]

I would, like, sit down. You'd be like, can you give me a Stanley? And then I would sit down, and then you'd be like, I never made.

[Danny]

I. I asked you before. You on.

[Jordan]

Yeah, but I found Stella's princess crown and I put it on her head. And that's when you said, I just feel like I need to cry. So she was just crying with the snack in her hand. The princess crown. It was great. I should. I should have videoed that. That was. That was just.

[Danny]

You would have laugh, really video, like, life anymore, which is kind of annoying.

[Jordan]

Oh, I'm so sorry.

[Danny]

Yeah, Used to video a lot of stuff. You know, we pioneered the my wife thing back on tik tok in 2021. Yeah, 2020.

[Jordan]

I don't think it was called that.

[Danny]

But yeah, no, you would be like, my wife is crazy. Like, and you would film me around the house on Tik Tok. And that's actually how we grew our Tik Tok to be like, I think we had, like, 100,000 followers. Like, and that was all you just posting every night. Do you remember that?

[Jordan]

I remember that.

[Danny]

I. I didn't even know I had a Tik Tok.

[Jordan]

It was like, gambling.

[Danny]

Yeah. And every night you'd be like, babe, I just gained 20, 000 followers.

[Jordan]

Like, well, what I. What I would do is I would take all these clips of you on my phone and I would just post them.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And then. Then I had to, like, figure out the caption.

[Danny]

This is when Tick Tock was, like, singing, like.

[Jordan]

Yeah, singing. And Dancing. Anyway, I care about you, and I think after this, you want to go on a walk.

[Danny]

Babe, if you cared about me, you would film me more.

[Jordan]

I feel like you're getting into this, like, stage of pregnancy where you're just, like, a little crazy, and I'm just. I'm kind of starting to get scared.

[Danny]

I know. Me too. I'm scared of myself.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

I mean, I can't control anything anymore.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

I'm out of control.

[Jordan]

But the good news, you did great in the. The parent interview at the school.

[Danny]

Thank you so much. So, yeah, so we just got done with that, and that's why I have a little bit of makeup on. Of course, you know, I was in a cute outfit, and I. I immediately got home and put on my sweats, which people always ask me about my sweats. All my sweats are from Aerie. It's the offline brand. I go up to a large when I'm pregnant, but usually I'm. I do mediums. If y' all were curious.

[Jordan]

What else has been on your mind lately? That little pregnancy brain.

[Danny]

I'm just, like, hungry all the time, so that's been a lot of my guys.

[Jordan]

Yesterday, I caught Danny eating.

[Danny]

Oh, yeah.

[Jordan]

A bagel. And she's. But she was dipping it in spinach dip.

[Danny]

It wasn't good.

[Jordan]

And I asked her, why are you eating a spinach dip? And she said, we didn't have any cream cheese.

[Danny]

It was bad. It was really bad.

[Jordan]

And also, the thing about, like. And it's cool. I don't want you to change anything. You do you right now. Yeah, but when you eat right now, like, I gave you that. You. You wanted that breakfast sandwich, so I handed it to you. And you don't, like. You're just like. It's like giant bites.

[Danny]

I'm that girl now.

[Jordan]

You're that girl.

[Danny]

Oh, no.

[Jordan]

And then you're like. And then you're, like, holding your phone, and you want me to watch some, like, talking food video, and you've got, like. Like, a cheese biscuit in your mouth, and you're like, I don't understand. Why don't you want to watch?

[Danny]

So you're saying I. You're not attracted to me anymore?

[Jordan]

I thought I just. I was like, dang.

[Danny]

And I'm, like, breathing really heavy because, like, I can't.

[Jordan]

In normal times, if I was eating a. A bagel with spinach dip, you'd be like, you're disgusting.

[Danny]

I know. I know. But I. I did only try it. I tried it, and then I was like, oh, this isn't good, babe.

[Jordan]

Trying it as one bite. I saw at least three.

[Danny]

No, I didn't do more than one.

[Jordan]

Use it more. Maybe not more than two.

[Danny]

No, I really didn't. Because it wasn't good. Yeah, I. Maybe. Maybe it's possible. No, I. Because I bought these bagels, and they were. They're from sprouts, and they're really soft, and, like, they were. They had the. Everything but the bagel seasoning on them. And, you know, I'm just. I haven't had a bagel in a long time, and I was, like, really scared they were gonna start to expire, so. So I was like, I better eat this. And so. But, yeah, we didn't have. And so the only butter we have is, like, so hard that you have to, like, really spread it out. And it just wasn't working for me. So I just went back to the fridge. I was like, what else is white that would work for this?

[Jordan]

Spinach dip.

[Danny]

Spinach dip. I did have a cashew dip. I probably should have done that.

[Jordan]

Yeah. So then. So, like, the series. The actual series of events last night was like. We talked about what you were doing with the spinach dip and the bagel, and then you were. I sat back on the couch, and then you were like, I want you to watch these talking food videos. And I kind of was just like, she can't get. Like, she's just. She's pregnant and she's hungry. I don't want to watch these talking food videos. I thought it was, like, specific to your pregnancy. And then. And then you got mad at me, and I was like, I wasn't actually mad at you. No, you weren't actually mad at me. But, like, it's all. Everything is so food related.

[Danny]

Oh, is it?

[Jordan]

Yeah, sort of.

[Danny]

January energy is always funny to me because everyone suddenly wakes up and is like, this is my year. Everyone dives into the new things that they think they will do. And I actually did a really good job keeping up my New Year's resolution last year, which was to text people.

[Jordan]

Back, you've been so much better than.

[Danny]

Thank you.

[Jordan]

You've been so much better. But most of the time, I feel like we all just kind of procrastinate in doing them.

[Danny]

Exactly. But I do think January is the one time of year where people actually pause and ask, okay, what am I doing with my life? And usually the answer is, I've been sitting on an idea for way too long.

[Jordan]

It's so important. I find that we don't Talk ourselves out of them. Why are you laughing?

[Danny]

Because we have so many, like, things that we've, like, trademarked that we never did anything.

[Jordan]

No, not that many.

[Danny]

Oh, I have a few.

[Jordan]

I feel like we've got really good at, like, committing to the things that we say we're going to do.

[Danny]

Yeah. But it is wild because if we waited until we knew everything before starting Divi, Divi would not exist.

[Jordan]

Not. Not even a little bit. We had. We had a lot of vision, we had a lot of opinions, and we honestly had zero experience, like, actually building a business in this realm.

[Danny]

And honestly, if you think back, Shopify is the only reason that Divi ever became a real thing instead of just a dream that we talked about at dinner. The second that we built the site, it was like, oh, wait, this is actually legit right now.

[Jordan]

It was just me and you in Stratton Unborn Stratton's nursery and saying, we're gonna turn this idea into something big.

[Danny]

And I think what scares people the most is about. I think what scares people the most is making it real. But Shopify makes that first step so much less intimidating. You don't need to be, like, a tech person. You don't need a full team. You don't need to know how to code. I remember we launched it and, like, it was just. And me on the sofa.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And it's like, honestly, most of the time we were working on it too. It was after hours. So, like, anyone who's wanting a side hustle can, like, build this on the weekends or at night or before their kids go to bed. It makes kind of starting a business online pretty easy.

[Danny]

Yeah. And can we talk about how much easier they've made the actual selling part, like, shop Pay alone? I don't think people realize how much smoother check checkout makes a difference.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And people. What's really crazy about it is people prefer it too. People prefer to use shop pay. Like, the conversion on that versus any other payment method is, like, way up.

[Danny]

And the back end. Because that was something that always kind of confused me and overwhelmed me. Like, I didn't even want to deal with it at all because it felt like so much. Like the only thing I could ever think of is, like, when I was trying to change my MySpace colors, you know, or Zango website. It was, like, so crazy. But what's so cool about the app is it has everything in one place. Orders, inventory, analytics. Super easy to digest. You're not juggling like, a million logins trying to remember where Everything lives, which I love.

[Jordan]

I love that back end. I had to, to wean myself off the back end because I got a little too deep into it. All those little ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Every time an order came in, we'd.

[Danny]

Be like, oh, Hawaii.

[Jordan]

Yeah. You kind of gotta. You gotta. At a certain point, you gotta zoom out and be like, okay, okay. Yeah, I shouldn't look at this as much as I do.

[Danny]

But it has been nice to see how it kind of grows with our lifestyle. Or sometimes we really want to be more involved and sometimes we want to take a step back and it's so easy to do. So whether you're testing, like a small idea or you're building something big, you're not going to outgrow it.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I don't think we'll ever get off Shopify. I mean, we've been on it since day one and, like, we've had to upgrade it and, like, get new themes and stuff, but we'll forever be on Shopify. I think everyone is.

[Danny]

Yeah, it's like everybody's on Shop.

[Jordan]

Everybody's on Shopify.

[Danny]

Um, so if you're listening to this and there's something that you've been saying, okay, one day I'll do this. This is your gentle push. January is the moment to stop overthinking and just start.

[Jordan]

Because, trust us, no one ever feels ready.

[Danny]

Yeah, you just start and then you figure out as you go, yeah, you.

[Jordan]

Just have one kid, then you have two kids, you have three kids, you have four kids, then you have two companies, and here we are. We're never ready. So if you're ready to take the next step in your life, whether that is merch, your own hair care line, or something in between, go to shop. Shopify.com Danny and make it happen. It doesn't matter where you are at in the entrepreneur journey, Shopify is there to make your life and selling journey easier.

[Danny]

Whether you're just wanting to test an idea out or you're getting serious about launching your own brand, it's never been easier to start to get started on shopify.com jani shopify makes selling so easy, you'll wonder how you ever lived without it. It's time to stop thinking and start doing. And there is no better way to do that than with Shopify. Use our link shopify.com jani now to get and getting serious about building your future. Take it from me, it is time to start taking that idea you've had for a while and put it into action. And with Shopify. You will have all the tools you need to ensure your idea becomes the best reality it can be. Again, that is shopify.com. jenny, stop saying one day and start saying today. Did I snore again last night, too?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Like, what does it sound like again?

[Jordan]

Just tell me I'm not doing this, please. I just miss every time it's the same.

[Danny]

Well, really like that, though.

[Jordan]

You asked me that after. I do it every time, too.

[Danny]

I don't believe that it was actually like that.

[Jordan]

Yes, it is.

[Danny]

It's not more like. Like that? Or, like. Wait, like. Or. Hold on.

[Jordan]

No, it's not that. That's not that bad.

[Danny]

Okay, so it's more like. Is it like mouth breathing?

[Jordan]

No, it's. It's in the throat for sure.

[Danny]

Like that?

[Jordan]

Yeah, but a little bit. A little bit rumble.

[Danny]

Really?

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Danny]

Wait, like that?

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's.

[Danny]

Wait, was it that level of loudness?

[Jordan]

Yes. Yes. It wakes me up.

[Danny]

Can you film me next time I'm doing it?

[Jordan]

No.

[Danny]

Why? So you don't love me? I'm telling you, if you love me, you would film me snoring.

[Jordan]

I mean, this is. This is crazy. Like, you're being crazy to hundreds of thousands of people right now, and they're gonna support me because you're being. You're being a crazy person.

[Danny]

It's not the first I've been called crazy. One other thing. Do I snore all night or is it, like, for increments?

[Jordan]

I don't know, because I fall back asleep. It seems pretty consistent.

[Danny]

I know. I can feel that.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean, you want me to get you, like, a CPAP machine or whatever they're called?

[Danny]

No, it only happens at the end of my pregnancy. Right.

[Jordan]

Yeah, you could. You could do the mouth tape, but I don't. I don't know.

[Danny]

I'm scared I won't be able to breathe. That mouth tape seems dangerous.

[Jordan]

Yeah. I mean, don't do that. You're probably not supposed to do that. Pregnant, I don't know, maybe needs oxygen or something.

[Danny]

I just. Yeah. I don't know. I don't trust. Just my nose.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Just the nostrils. Okay, well, will you please just film me next time and I'm sorry. I'm being crazy and.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Yeah. Please don't wake me up, though, if. I'm sorry.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Danny]

I just really need to sleep because I actually wake up, like, every other hour. I'm, like, shocked. It is probably from my own snoring, but I just. I do only snore when I'm pregnant. I just want everybody to know that.

[Jordan]

Yeah, no, I know.

[Danny]

It's because the. The uterus is now so big. It's a balloon. It's pushing all my organs up and I don't get any more air in.

[Jordan]

I know you can't breathe I know.

[Danny]

You can't sleep I can't breathe, no, I can't sleep so barely hanging.

[Jordan]

I don't know. But all things considered, once again, I'm.

[Danny]

Torn into pieces can't deny it, can't defend Just thought you were the one. What song is that? Is it just. Is it Ashley Simpson?

[Jordan]

It's Ashley Simpson.

[Danny]

Or is it JoJo? Okay.

[Jordan]

All things Considered. I do think you're doing great, though.

[Danny]

Thank you, babe.

[Jordan]

Like, I don't feel like you're. You're not sad.

[Danny]

I am talking to my therapist tomorrow.

[Jordan]

Oh, really?

[Danny]

I do feel a little sad sometimes.

[Jordan]

Oh, you are?

[Danny]

That's why I cried the other night, because. Yeah, there's nothing I'm sad about.

[Jordan]

Okay, that's good.

[Danny]

I probably just be. I'm probably sad that I just eat and snore all the time. That's probably the main thing.

[Jordan]

Well, it's. We're at the tail end.

[Danny]

I know. We're so close. We're just like. We just. We just need to make it through this. This ice storm, this Texas ice storm, which, you know, you know me, I love stuff like this. I love it. You know me. I just love. Whenever it's like.

[Jordan]

She loves a good Lord of the.

[Danny]

Flies moment, the little daylight savings, like, what's going to happen? It's like, the unpredictability and, like, we're all in it together.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

I just love it. But I really do hope everybody stays safe out there. I do feel like, because we had this happen in 2021, that I feel like people are more like, like, prepared and more aware of, like, hey, don't do this. Or do this, do this. And so I am hoping that more people stay safe. But besides that, I'm just kind of excited, you know? I'm like. Everybody's, like, dreading it. They're like, what are we going to do? I'm like, are you kidding me? This is what life is all about.

[Jordan]

I. I don't know if I'm being naive. I.

[Danny]

You don't believe it.

[Jordan]

I don't believe it.

[Danny]

I know. It's the media. They've just now. We don't trust anything.

[Jordan]

And the reason I don't believe it is on Twitter X they rolled out this new feature where they're Trying to get people to read long form content and they're paying like a ton of money.

[Danny]

Pay me.

[Jordan]

So. So all of these, like, hobbyist meteorologists are writing these like, doomsday articles about the storm. And that's why I don't believe it.

[Danny]

Because I'm like, they're being like, over the top.

[Jordan]

They're. People are acting like the world is going to be over on Sunday.

[Danny]

Well, people are saying it's supposed to be, like, way worse than 2021.

[Jordan]

But didn't they say that in 2021?

[Danny]

Okay, 2021, we actually, like, my theory is that so bad on our part because we were in Tulum, but, like, we really didn't know that it was gonna happen. Like, we literally went to Tulum because I was like, postpartum and it was like our first trip away from Stella, and everybody in our life was like, yoko, you deserve it. And so we're like, literally in Tulum and it's like the most dangerous ice storms back. And then we got stuck in Tulum. So then we're like, oh, we're stuck. And everybody's like, oh, crime your river. And I'm like, I know, it's a horrible look. It really was like, I'm not gonna lie, that was like a PR. Freaking nightmare. Anyway. But. So, yeah, this time we're. We're here. But why was I talking about this?

[Jordan]

You were talking about it because people are saying it's going to be worse than.

[Danny]

Oh. So, yeah, we don't really know because we weren't here. So we don't really know how bad it was.

[Jordan]

Yeah. So, yeah, I just. My theory. When do we watch the Weather Channel.

[Danny]

When something bad happens?

[Jordan]

When there's like, tornadoes coming.

[Danny]

You think the Weather Channel is just trying to capitalize off this?

[Jordan]

They're on cloud nine right now. They're like, our viewership is up. Like, because honestly, if it's a bad storm, I'm gonna be streaming the Weather Channel all day.

[Danny]

But you won't have the channel because the power will be out.

[Jordan]

No, I think that they bolstered the grid, at least in Texas.

[Danny]

Well, I guess we'll see about that.

[Jordan]

We'll see.

[Danny]

But anyway, I mean, have you winterized our home yet? You know, I've been sending you all of those reels and tick tocks. You don't. That's another thing. You never reply to my texts. It's like, I feel. I feel like I love you more than you love me. Oh, it's funny because he said that same thing.

[Jordan]

To me. And you. Literally. I go, I said that to her this morning on the way to the school tour. And I go. And I was, like, kind of kidding. I was like, I feel like you love me or I love you more than you love me. And you go, I'm not playing this game with you right now.

[Danny]

I go, babe, I'm not playing this game.

[Jordan]

You go, I'm not playing this game with you right now. Like, and you go, you know what? You don't understand.

[Danny]

You always try to hold my hand when I'm doing something.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Like, you're, like. You always are trying to, like, hand me coffee when I'm busy. Like, hold my hand whenever I'm busy. And then you go. And then you go, you know what? Like, you may have, like, a lot of intellect, but you're spatially dumb.

[Danny]

I did not say the word dumb, babe. I would never call you dumb.

[Jordan]

He said I was spatially ignorant.

[Danny]

No, inept, I think.

[Jordan]

Spatially inept.

[Danny]

Wait, let me.

[Jordan]

So then I literally stopped talking to you. And then I was like, I'm just gonna, like, text Natasha from Divi. And then you're like, who are you texting? And what is more important than what I'm about to tell you? I want you to watch this video of Fernando Mendoza, who I told you about. You didn't even watch the national championship.

[Danny]

I'm exaggerating right now. Okay?

[Jordan]

So.

[Danny]

But let me just clear the air. Okay. This morning, Jordan, like, was trying to hold my hand when I was putting on my seatbelt, and I'm like, this is so annoying because I'm trying to put my seatbelt on. And I was like, babe, I love you. Like, I want to hold your hand, but, like, why are you always try to do things for me when I'm busy? And then he goes, I feel like you. I love you more than you love me. And I'm like, babe, I'm not playing this game. I go, you're just. You're just spatially inept. And then I was like, no.

[Jordan]

And you drilled down, and you were like, do you think that you are spatially inept? And you were like. I was like, I don't think it's that deep, Danny. And you go, no. Sometimes I feel like you want to hold my hand so that. Because I'm busy. So that you can be the victim because I'm putting on my seatbelt. I was like, you know what? I was like, I'm. I could get mad right now, but I was like, this is so crazy. I'M just gonna ignore it and text the text.

[Danny]

Okay, so Jordan says I'm actually being real about this.

[Jordan]

Psycho.

[Danny]

Jordan does. Okay, Jordan does have this thing, like, when we go to the mall or we go to the airport or something. Like, he is, like, not spatially aware of, like. It's like, you know, being, like, socially aware is, like, a thing, but, like, spatially aware of people. So, like, we'll have this stroller, and Jordan will stop in the middle of the hallway, like, and people, like, literally can't get by, and he is, like, in a la la land. And I'm always like, babe, can you move? Like, people are trying to walk by. Like, and you. You block things off, like, all the time. Like, you just. It's like, you only can see forward. Like, not how, like, you're spatially affecting other. Other people. So this is a thing that he does when he brings me coffee in the morning, which is so sweet, and I so appreciate it, but I'm literally, like, under the covers, and I'm, like, cuddling, you know? And every morning, he'll come and stand next to my bed and just hold it out to me instead of putting it next to my bed. Okay, so. Which means I have to, like, get out of the covers and accept the. Accept the coffee when I'm like, you could just put it down, and I'll get it when I, like, get up, you know? But he has to stand there, and I'm like. Sometimes I feel like you want. Like, you're. You're like, look at me. I'm bringing you something, and you want me to feel uncomfortable in order to receive it. So this is another thing, y'. All. I. I am not kidding you. Like, I will get in the car. And, like, you know when you have, like, a. Like, bajillion things in your hands, like your purse, whatever, your jacket, and you're getting in the car to, like, put your seatbelt on. Like, when I'm in the middle of all that, Jordan will put out his hand to hold my hand, and I'm like, I literally have no hands right now. Why are you doing this to me? And then I feel like sometimes he does it to be rejected, to be the victim. So then when he said that this morning, and he's like, I feel like you don't love me. I was like, it. It meant so much more because I was like, you do this to yourself. Like, you. You. You want to hold my hand when you know I can't hold your hand? Like, you do that.

[Jordan]

No, I don't you're literally. You need to go to the loony bin. You're a psychopath.

[Danny]

You do that, though, baby. You always try to hold my hand when I'm like, but why, babe? Like, I'm writing a check right now. Or like, I was like, I'm writing a check.

[Jordan]

I'm writing a check. Where's your checkbook?

[Danny]

Or I'm, like, trying to put my seatbelt. Or like, my hands are so full. And you're like, but I don't. Oh, you did that last night, too, when I got. Oh, my God. When I was getting in bed, you know, like, you're getting in bed. Like, you're getting the covers, and you're just getting them just right. And, like, I'm about to get in bed, and, like, Jordan throws his hand at me to hold my hand. I'm like, how am I gonna hold your hand while I also get in bed? This is impossible. And then I had to reject you. I'd be like, babe, can you give me a second? Like, let me get situated, and then I'll hold your hand. But see, I feel like you like that. I feel like you like the fact that I have to say no, because then you get to get in the car and say you don't love me as much as I love you.

[Jordan]

It's like, the reason I just stopped talking to you is I was like, I can't.

[Danny]

Am I making sense, though? Am I making sense? Yeah, See, I'm making sense. It's like. It's like a thing. Guys, I just time that you see Jordan at the mall. Watch how he walks. He literally thinks he owns a place. He will walk and just stop in the middle. And, like, some people will be looking at something, and he'll just walk right in front of them. And, like, he's really not trying to do that. He's just so spaciously inept. It's so funny. Unaware. Spatially unaware.

[Jordan]

That's what I. Oh, my gosh. It's just so, like. I don't. It's like. It's patient. It's like, when she's done, we'll hold hands.

[Danny]

Oh, my God. It's, like, so cringy for me. Like, especially because sometimes when you're holding out your hand, it, like, gets in the way, and I have to, like, push it away. And then I'm like, you're asking for this. Like, you. You want me to push you away? You know?

[Jordan]

Why would I want that?

[Danny]

I don't know. I think you. You like being the victim.

[Jordan]

I don't feel like the victim.

[Danny]

You don't feel like the victim?

[Jordan]

No.

[Danny]

I don't care. You love me more than I love you.

[Jordan]

I mean, I was, like, kind of kidding.

[Danny]

We need to stop laughing. It's not funny.

[Jordan]

It is funny. It might be one of those things that's just funny to us.

[Danny]

Yeah. Is it relatable? Like, I don't know, do other husbands do this?

[Jordan]

All right. I had one of those moments recently where I realized how disconnected everything can feel. You know, when you actually slow down for a second? Maybe you're outside walking, traveling, or just away from screens, and you remember what it feels like to be in your body again. And then you go back to real life, open the pantry, and it's just chaos. Powders, supplements, labels you don't trust, ingredient lists that feel like a guessing game. That's where the idea of simplifying nutrition really clicked for me, because nutrition shouldn't feel like the hunger Games. You shouldn't need a chemistry degree to know whether something is helping you or quietly working against you. That's what drew me to cachava. It's an all in one nutrition shake built around the idea of clean inputs. No nonsense. Cachava is designed to support your whole body in one simple step. It covers energy with key vitamins and minerals, digestion with fiber, probiotics and enzymes, strength with plant based protein and electrolytes, metabolism with B vitamins and minerals, cognition with essential nutrients for your nervous system and immune support with things like vitamin C and zinc. It's not about replacing everything else. It's about filling nutritional gaps in a way that actually makes sense. And it's also just incredibly easy. Two scoops, blend it up and you're done. There are six flavors. Chocolate, vanilla, chai, matcha, coconut, acai and strawberry. And people get creative with it. Nut milk, frozen fruit, peanut butter, iced coffee. Cachava even has a whole kitchen of recipes. If you want to mix things up without overthinking it, what stands out is the quality. No artificial flavors. No artificial colors or sweeteners. No soy, no gluten, no animal products. Just thoughtfully sourced ingredients that fuel wherever your day takes you. It's nutrition that feels intentional instead of overwhelming. Rewild your [e-mail] and use code Danny Austin. New customers get $20 off an order of two bags or more now through the 31st. That's Kachava. K A C H A V A.com code DannyAustin.

[Danny]

Okay, here's something I've been thinking about. A lot lately. Cleaning products are one of those things we use every single day without really thinking about them. Our kitchen counters, our laundry, the floors the kids crawl on. It all adds up. And with a new year here, I've been really asking myself a simple but important question. Do I actually know what I'm bringing into our home and how it might affect how we feel? That's a big reason why I've become so passionate about Branch Basics. It's a female founded brand that completely changed the way we think about cleaning. A lot of products look clean, but still contain ingredients linked to hormone disruption, skin irritation and respiratory issues. And most brands don't even have to list everything inside. Branch Basics does the opposite. Total transparency, plant and mineral based ingredients, and it's safe for babies, pets and the whole family. What really sold me is how simple it is. Their premium starter kit comes with one powerful concentrate that replaces basically everything. Laundry detergent, bathroom cleaner, glass cleaner, even a produce wash. I was honestly shocked by how effective it is. It made cleaning feel less overwhelming and way more intentional. Especially, especially during the reset season or now that I'm nesting. As a mom, peace of mind matters so much to me. Knowing what I'm using in our home is human, safe, biodegradable and actually works has made such a difference. It's one of those swaps that feels small but has a huge impact on your everyday life. And once you make it, you don't want to go back. And here's the good news. Branch Basics is now available everywhere you shop. @Target, Target.com Amazon and of course Branch Basics.com tossing the toxins has never been more convenient. And. And for anyone grabbing the premium starter kit, you can still get 15% off@ branch basics.com with our code Danny. Just use Danny for 15% off the premium starter kit@ branch basics.com after you purchase. When they ask where you heard about them, please make sure to mention our show. I'll say it again because this one really matters. Branch Basics is available@target target.com Amazon branchbasics.com and you can get 15 off the premium starter kit@branch basics.com with co code Danny. Just use codes Danny for 15 off. Do you realize that you do that with the stroller though sometimes? Like, come on. Like really? I. I just like I want to.

[Jordan]

I think there's a specific moment.

[Danny]

No, there's so many.

[Jordan]

No, no. There's a specific moment in the past week that you are thinking of. I remember it. We were on 12 South. We were in that one store on 12 South. And I remember because you go, jordan, you left the stroller in the middle of the people are trying to get. Do you remember that store? It had the little leopard seats.

[Danny]

Yes. But you had done. It was at Alice, Olivia. Okay. And, like, my mom. We're all there, like, looking at the clothes, and Jordan walks in and literally blocks the entire hallway to walk in with our stroller and walks and goes and sit down. I'm like, I. I would never. Like, I would. I'm, like, so awake. Like, it's like. It's, like, annoying how aware I am of, like, my spatial surroundings. Like, I would tuck this stroller off. Like, I. Honestly, there's a part of me that would probably fold it up so people felt more comfortable. And, like, every single store was, like, the size of a shoebox. And we'd open the door, and Jordan would be, like, ramming the stroller inside. Like. Like. Like, we were, like, every single store that we walked into, people were like.

[Jordan]

Whoa, it was a double stroller.

[Danny]

It's hard, I know, but see, what I would have done is left the stroll outside and have the kids just walk through the door with me. But you know what? I didn't even say that because I'm such a good wife. And I didn't. I didn't complain, but I thought about it.

[Jordan]

That's where you think you're the victim is you're always like, see, I didn't even say anything. But then you always end up saying it. And then you're like, jordan, here's why I'm such a good wife is. I said it to you once, but I wanted to say it for 50 times. And so therefore, like, I'm not even nagging. Like, you have no idea. If you want me to show you naggy, I'll show you naggy. Like, you're the victim because you've just been bottling up these, like, stupid little things that bother you.

[Danny]

I. Silent off my chest now, you know? Yeah.

[Jordan]

Okay. Right.

[Danny]

Let's just take a deep breath.

[Jordan]

Oh, this is the last time. This is the last time. This last. No, this is the last time we ever have to go through this crazy pregnancy. We. I found a doctor. He's gonna snip it. We're done. We're gonna. We're gonna live a long, happy life with sanity from here on out. No more.

[Danny]

I don't remember what that looks like.

[Jordan]

I know. I think that that's the toxic urge in us to, like, be like, should we run it back again? Because this is the new normal for us.

[Danny]

Yeah. Just, just.

[Jordan]

It's like we don't. It's like we don't want peace.

[Danny]

I feel that we're 30 minutes in. Should we get to the script?

[Jordan]

Do you have anything else you want to get off your chest? Now's the time. It's. For some reason, this is always the time.

[Danny]

Yeah. No, I think I'm good.

[Jordan]

You think you're good?

[Danny]

I have told you not to wear the vest with us before, and you just do it despite me. And I know it. I know it. I know that you just do it.

[Jordan]

That one is true.

[Danny]

I know you just do it to say I'm in control and you're not, but it's okay. You know what? I thought about it and I didn't say anything, so I'm a really good wife.

[Jordan]

That one is so true.

[Danny]

I have told you that that vest does not go with that sweatshirt.

[Jordan]

I really think it does, though. It is so comfortable to wear this vest with this sweatshirt.

[Danny]

No, it does. It works for, like, everyday, like, hangout life. But you were going to a school, like, interview.

[Jordan]

So I can be wearing it now.

[Danny]

Yeah, it's just funny because I told you not to. Yeah, but no, it's cool. Like, I don't care what you. I don't care what you wear, like, you know, around the house and stuff. It was a school interview. That's what I was like. You know, but every time I look at you, I do, I am reminded.

[Jordan]

That might be a subconscious thing, that I did do it. Because I, I, I really could have grabbed anything.

[Danny]

I know, I know. I know how you are. You know, you act like I'm the crazy one all the time, but I know we all know the truth. I know the truth. Oh, the truth will come out. Anyway. Yeah, let's talk about Fernando Mendoza. I know I didn't watch the game. I did watch the beginning of it, but I don't really need to watch the game because I can watch all the highlights on, yeah, Instagram.

[Jordan]

The way you posted on your Instagram story, though, it made it seem like you watched the game. I just want you to know that.

[Danny]

No, it didn't. I literally said, this is the coolest, craziest play I've ever seen.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I know, but it was, like, vague enough to where. It's like you stayed up with your husband, watched the game, and you didn't.

[Danny]

I really didn't. I don't. I wasn't insinuating that at all.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Danny]

No, I was literally just. I had seen that clip. And I was like, this is the craziest, coolest play I've ever.

[Jordan]

I know. And then you fall in love with Fernando Mendoza. And I. Before you went to bed, before the game, I was like, you got to go watch interview clips.

[Danny]

I know. I actually think. I think I did in bed that night. And then I, like, fell in love with him. And then I woke up the next morning, I was like, look at what my little Fernie did.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Danny]

Yes.

[Jordan]

And so from my perspective, I was like, you didn't know who he was when you went to bed.

[Danny]

Why? Why does it matter? Are you being such a hater?

[Jordan]

No, I'm not. I'm not. He's a great guy.

[Danny]

So then I was like, yeah, I was like, we have to name our new child Fernando. Did you see how he called his mommy? Like, mommy and poppy, like, not. I know it wasn't like, m O, m m y. But he like. Because I guess they're. What are they? Italian?

[Jordan]

Cuban, Probably Italian. Cuban, probably Italian.

[Danny]

What is he, Italian.

[Jordan]

I think Mendoza is probably Italian. Sorry, we have a fill in producer today. She's a little slower.

[Danny]

Oh, I was right. Cuban.

[Jordan]

Normal producer said he found cheap flight tickets. Took a trip to New York during an arctic tundra.

[Danny]

We're like, I wonder why they're so cheap. I Wonder why it's $67 to New York. We won't see you for a week.

[Jordan]

Yeah, he'll be gone for a while.

[Danny]

Yeah. So he's.

[Jordan]

Wait, he's what, Cuban?

[Danny]

Yeah, he's Cuban. So he calls his mommy like, mom, like. Like how I. How I call Stella. My mom always called me mom.

[Jordan]

Oh, he's from Miami. That makes sense. From Miami.

[Danny]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sweet baby. I think every. I think every mom right now is like, how do I raise a son like that?

[Jordan]

Every female. It's not like it doesn't seem like they're like, attracted to him. They're more just like, I love you.

[Danny]

In like a. I want you to do well. I want. I want the best for you. It's like, I don't want to make out with you, but I want to see you making out with somebody lovely. I want. It's like theoban. Like, I want you to have a really hot girlfriend. I don't want to be the girlfriend, but I want you to be happy.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Like you deserve.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

A hottie or a sweetie. I can't wait to see who. Fernando. Like, I feel like I could see him, like, dating someone famous.

[Jordan]

Oh, for sure.

[Danny]

Who do. Who would we, like, want ship with Fernando. Let me think. I would have loved, like, Selena Gomez and Fernando.

[Jordan]

Oh, that's so random.

[Danny]

Like OG Selena Gomez, huh? You know, when she was a little bit more normal.

[Jordan]

I mean, like a hadid.

[Danny]

What? No.

[Jordan]

Okay, stupid. No, stupid.

[Danny]

You know, like. Like maybe like one of the Fanning sisters. Elle Fanning.

[Jordan]

Huh? Oh, interesting.

[Danny]

You know? Yeah, let me think.

[Jordan]

What about, like, a supermodel?

[Danny]

No, no, no, no, no. Oh, no, no, he's not. He.

[Jordan]

He.

[Danny]

It. There's got to be. It's got to be something with depth maybe. Like, Let me think. Who's single these days that we, like. Oh, wait, no. I mean, I know this isn't gonna work out, but Kelsey Ballerini, she's probably a little too spicy for him, don't you think? Yeah, Sadie Robertson's already taken. Let's see. Let's just do single famous women. You know, it's funny. What's her name? The girl? Emma. Emma from Harry Potter? She did kind of cross my mind a little bit. Emma Watson.

[Jordan]

Oh, Emma Watson.

[Danny]

I thought about it.

[Jordan]

What about the girl from Landman? What's her name?

[Danny]

Susan Glenn Powell. Is she the blondie?

[Jordan]

Yeah. Or is that a rumor?

[Danny]

No, she really is.

[Jordan]

Oh, wow.

[Danny]

Yeah. No, she's taken. I don't know who. Who do y' all think? Floor. Florence. Who do you think Fernando should end up with?

[Jordan]

I think he's going to be like a. A superstar, because he's like. He's. He's clean cut. He's like a good guy. Like, as long as he doesn't got to fall to.

[Danny]

What do you think are, like, Hollywood things, like, dark sides. Like, what do you think he, like, struggles with? Because, like, I saw an interview of him and he. This was way before, and they were asking him, like, do you have a girlfriend? He's like, no, no, I don't have time for that. He's like, girlfriends, they take up a lot of your time. And, you know, I wake up and I'm at the gym and I'm at class until three, and then, you know, and then I have to do my homework until 5. And really, if I had a girlfriend, then she would take up that time until five and. And I just don't have time for that. It was, like, so, like, sweet and, like, logical. Like, he's like, practically. I wouldn't have time to talk to my girlfriend or something. Would have to give. And I was like, smart man. Oh, I just had somebody who? Kai Trump.

[Jordan]

That's really good. That's good. That's really good. That's probably your best friend.

[Danny]

I don't know if he could handle the family, though. But Kai seems so. Like, I don't want to do anything with politics. Like, I want to be in sports. Like, she seems so normal, and she's like. Like, wants to completely separate herself, but she also seems, like, really smart and sweet and whatever.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

And so.

[Jordan]

That'S pretty freaking good.

[Danny]

Yeah, that was good.

[Jordan]

You call it. You called it. If it happens, they have to come on here. I think Fernando would. Come on. We could break it down. Break Fernando on.

[Danny]

I think we have a better chance of getting Kai than we do Fernando right now.

[Jordan]

Probably.

[Danny]

Sweet, baby. Congratulations. Indiana Hoosiers.

[Jordan]

They did great.

[Danny]

Y' all did great. What have you been listening to? What have you been watching?

[Jordan]

What was that one show that I tried to get into, but I couldn't get into it? The Rip.

[Danny]

The Rip. I liked it. I watched it.

[Jordan]

Did you watch the whole thing?

[Danny]

Yeah, I was taking little naps here.

[Jordan]

And there, but, yeah, it was a solid, like, C for me. Just wasn't engaging. Did you like it?

[Danny]

It was okay. It's just like.

[Jordan]

What would. What would you rate it on? Rotten Tomatoes?

[Danny]

76.

[Jordan]

76. That's so specific.

[Danny]

Yeah, the RIP 76, to me is like, a movie worth watching, but it's, like, gonna be a movie that.

[Jordan]

Oh, it's got 81.

[Danny]

That was close.

[Jordan]

It just felt really cheap to me.

[Danny]

It did feel like a cheap.

[Jordan]

Like a cheap, like, cheap streaming, Netflix movie kind of thing.

[Danny]

Right, right, right. Oh, you should tell them about the sinners, because you've been obsessed with that movie.

[Jordan]

Oh, we watched, like.

[Danny]

Nominated for, like, 16 Oscars or something.

[Jordan]

14 Oscars. We avoided sinners for a long time.

[Danny]

Because we thought it was demonic. And we felt like we had enough to.

[Jordan]

Felt like we were just escaping the demons. We can't bring them back in.

[Danny]

It's really not.

[Jordan]

But it's not demonic. It's more vampirey.

[Danny]

There is one scene where the vampires are kind of, like, mocking the Lord's Prayer, and I didn't like that part.

[Jordan]

Well, and then I started praying on.

[Danny]

My own during that part.

[Jordan]

Yeah, there's one part where the vampire does, like, kind of become Lucifer a little bit. But anyway.

[Danny]

Yeah, but that part, I. That didn't scare me. It was like when you.

[Jordan]

It's more monster ish than it was.

[Danny]

When you mock, like, a prayer. I just. I can't get.

[Jordan]

But sinners top. Probably. Probably top 10 list for me of all.

[Danny]

You loved it.

[Jordan]

I Loved it so much. The music was so cool. I think anything to do with, like, the Mississippi Delta, like, true. What was that one with Matthew McConaughey? True Detective in, like, the Bayou.

[Danny]

We should watch that again.

[Jordan]

Like, season one of True Detective was so awesome. It's just such an interesting, like, part of America. And this was, like, set in the what? It was prohibition, so I would say.

[Danny]

Prohibition. What is that, like, 19? It's 20s, 30s.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Well, the roaring 20s. Yeah. Yeah. Prohibition. Yeah. So 1920s. The music was awesome.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

The, like, the cast was like. I mean, it had Michael B. Jordan and he's big, but everyone else was, like, pretty relatively, like, unknown.

[Danny]

Haley Steinfeld.

[Jordan]

Hailee Steinfeld was in it. And it just like, it was so unique, so creative.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

How many Oscars is it nominated for?

[Danny]

I. I think it was either 14 or 16.

[Jordan]

That's crazy. A lot. I don't. Yeah. I mean, the last Oscar nominee that I was like, that deserves it was Parasite.

[Danny]

Oh, did it win? That was a really good movie.

[Jordan]

That was like the last one where I was like, man, this movie deserves that. I also thought. What was that one movie we watched? I don't like endorse watching it, but it was like the. It was the movie about the stripper that be like, fell in love with that Russian guy.

[Danny]

Oh, it won a lot of awards, too.

[Jordan]

Yeah. What's that called?

[Danny]

It's her name or something.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Anora. I thought that, that, like, I. Again, I don't think people should just, like, watch it.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

But I thought it was like a very creative. Like, it's a take on, like, Cinderella story type of thing.

[Danny]

Yeah. And it just had a very. It's just like, very realistic and.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

So I. Yeah. I mean, I really. I'm not saying you should watch Sinners, but it's not as, like, evil as I thought it was going to be.

[Danny]

Yeah, it's definitely like a movie that I'm not. I didn't have nightmares about and I did it, like. And it's mainly vampire stuff.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

But. But if you get spooked easily, I don't. I get really. I don't like anything. Anything demonic. Like, I won't watch. I don't watch, like, a lot of scary movies.

[Jordan]

I don't even like Horror Grudge or.

[Danny]

The Ring or Poltergeist. Like, I don't watch any of those. But when it's like vampire, I'm like, okay. It's like, not that scary.

[Jordan]

And then. Yeah, we don't even really like watching horror Trailers like when we go to.

[Danny]

The movies, we're like X that we don't need that demonic forces in our lives, no way. But yeah, it was good to watch. We watched that when we were in Nashville. Are you learning anything new?

[Jordan]

Oh, I'm learning so much.

[Danny]

Will you tell us? Because I just feel like my brain's kind of trying to rot. All I do is eat and sleep around here.

[Jordan]

I've been listening. Well, I listened to the entire three part series on the Punic wars by Dan Carlin.

[Danny]

You know what? I think you already told us about this hardcore history.

[Jordan]

Well, now I'm onto a book called SPQR.

[Danny]

Sounds amazing.

[Jordan]

It's like, it's about 800 pages and it's basically like the most in depth, like historical analysis on the Roman Empire. I'm sorry, am I boring you?

[Danny]

No, sorry.

[Jordan]

I'm having trouble making it through it, to be honest. But I'm going to power through through the book and then I'm going to read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

[Danny]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Jordan]

Well, the reason I'm learning about the Romanish Empire is because understand I'm, I'm. I've decided that my Q1, my topic of focus is going to be learning about early Christian history. So I'm starting, yeah, I'm starting with the Roman Empire and then I'm going to read the Gospels in the context of knowing like how ruthless they were and how protective of the state that they were because that's pretty much why they crucified Jesus, you know?

[Danny]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

And then, and then I'm gonna move into. There's like a couple other. Well, there's, there's one podcast, it's like kind of controversial. So I'm going to listen to that after.

[Danny]

Can we do it?

[Jordan]

I can. Oh, well, there's a, there's a podcast called Martyr Made.

[Danny]

Okay.

[Jordan]

And he's very. I've never listened to it, but he did this podcast series called Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem. And I don't know what it's about because it's later on my early Christian history list. But the reason that people don't like him because he's very similar to Dan Carlin where he's like, he talks about history but he gets a lot of flack because what I think he tries to do is understand wars from like the human perspective, like so seeing both sides and so he's kind of gotten labeled like, you know, all of these things of like apologists for Hitler and all these types of things because he was trying to, like, understand the war from the minds of the Germans.

[Danny]

And sometimes, like. Or how maybe the Germans didn't know everything. So what they were being fed, what the Nazis were being fed and what they're. It's the same thing with, like, some of the people that are fighting wars for America. Like, sometimes, like, they're like, we don't even really know why we're here. But you. But they labeled, you know, all of the soldiers in Vietnam as this and this and this. And in Vietnam, like, straight up, they're just like, we're just doing what we're told, you know?

[Jordan]

So he. I, I don't know. I. I haven't fully wrapped my brain around people, why people think he's controversial. I think it has a lot to do with, like, his World War II.

[Danny]

Stuff, but apparently, yeah, probably because he's talking about a different perspective.

[Jordan]

But people say when they listen to Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem, it, like, blew their minds. Like, they say it's, like, one of the best, like, series. And so I'm excited to make it to that. And I feel like I'm powering through SPQR just to, like, like, reach the carrot, because I don't want to go out of order. Like, I'm trusting the process.

[Danny]

Oh, I can't wait for you to tell me more.

[Jordan]

I know you're probably going to love it. And so it's funny because I thought I was going to need all year to learn about this, but I'm really powering through this stuff. So I might make it to, like, World War II by Q4.

[Danny]

That's the thing about Q1. It's like, we just. There's. There's a little extra free time there.

[Jordan]

There's a little extra free time, and.

[Danny]

Then you just wait till baby comes, you know? I'm doing a maternity leave.

[Jordan]

Really? How long?

[Danny]

Not that long. I get bored.

[Jordan]

I know.

[Danny]

And like, But.

[Jordan]

But the Divi team's like, well, we're giving Danny two months maternity leave. And I. I just laugh.

[Danny]

Well, the thing is, I will. I won't be like, I won't have requirements, but, like, I probably will be posting and creating content because, like, it's. It's something I love to do.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

But I won't have brands being like, where's. Where's this do? Where's this do? So it's like, if I don't want to do it, I don't have to do it. But I like creating because I feel like it Actually, like, keeps me sane.

[Jordan]

Yeah. That's just so, so sorry. How long are you gonna. How long are you saying it's gonna be? A month?

[Danny]

About a month.

[Jordan]

Yeah, but that's like, you're not saying like a month. No posting. You're saying like a month.

[Danny]

A month. I don't know what I'm gonna do. Like, I might not want to post for two weeks. I don't have to do anything.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

But I, and I. For a month, I won't have any requirements for, from any brand. But I've, I've started to notice after like five weeks if I have, like, if I work with a brand, like, if I do like one thing on a Tuesday, that's fine. Like, it gives me a little bit more like, purpose and just like, you.

[Jordan]

Know, I think for you and maternity leave, it's like the freedom to do what you want to do when you want to do it.

[Danny]

Yes.

[Jordan]

That's the most important.

[Danny]

Yeah. And I'm still feeling pretty rested from my life.

[Jordan]

Just generally in life, I would say that's a good principle that you like to live by.

[Danny]

Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't really.

[Jordan]

Like, it's like, it's like, it's like you, you're like, oh, I want to do this photo shoot, but the minute it goes onto the calendar.

[Danny]

No, I planned two photo shoots last week.

[Jordan]

I know, but you plan them.

[Danny]

I know.

[Jordan]

That's the thing is like, I was excited for them. You gotta be in that driver's.

[Danny]

Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, so I. We'll see. We'll see what happens. I might. I. I honestly am still feeling pretty rested for my last two month hiatus that I still feel like I'm like, very appreciative.

[Jordan]

Wasn't that long ago.

[Danny]

It was a year ago.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Not that long ago. Yeah, it feels like yesterday.

[Danny]

I still feel rested from that. So, like, I still feel excited to. To work. There's nothing that's like, weighs on me anymore.

[Jordan]

No, you're light. Light is a feather, baby.

[Danny]

Should we move on to like our first topic?

[Jordan]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Danny]

Okay. So have you seen this trend going around about 2016? Everybody's getting really nostalgic, posting and reminiscing of the old times from 10 years ago. It's been so crazy to look back on what's been happening and what it looked like. I posted one myself of us back in 2016. It is crazy to, to look back. But I have heard that, you know, everything on the Internet, it's like a Pendulum, it swings back and forth, back and forth. So I have heard, like, I follow a lot of, like, business accounts, like marketing advice accounts, you know, those type of things. But. And a lot of them are saying that the pendulum is now swinging from, okay, we had the phase of perfection and, you know, everything was very curated. And then the pendulum swung to I'm so relatable and relatability and just being, you know, true to yourself, whatever. And now the pendulum is now swinging back to more curated content and more like, art and just things that can really, like, grab your attention because people are feeling overwhelmed by all the quote unquote authenticity.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

And I, I feel that, like, I.

[Jordan]

Don'T feel like anything's authentic.

[Danny]

I. I don't feel like anything is authentic.

[Jordan]

No.

[Danny]

Like, and so it's, I think especially because consumers got so much smarter with like all the editing apps and like, they've started creating content too. Like, it's just like a thing that people do, like, as a hobby, you see how it's done. And so now when you see someone, like, wake up with me, am I like. Or get like my natural morning routine? It's like, we know how it went. And so now people are like, kind of swinging back to like the 2016. They want to see, like professionals doing cool things or they want to see, like, I wouldn't say like models again. Like, they still value authenticity but like, in a different way where it's not being like abused.

[Jordan]

It's kind of like how somewhere in the past, like two or three years, like if you were still trying to be like girl boss, like, it was kind of like, oh, man, this is like that era is over. It's feeling like this whole parasocial era is diminishing a little bit. Just, I think people are like, waking up like, oh, like, we're not, like, we're not like friends. Like I've never met you. You know, they're probably like, like they're like waking up in their own minds and they're probably just starting to appreciate the content that is more like, oh, this is like aspirational.

[Danny]

So I was reading too. I don't know if this is true or not, but like, social media use is like at an all time low right now.

[Jordan]

Is it?

[Danny]

Can you Google that? I. I did read that it is.

[Jordan]

For me, but I didn't know that was for other people. I mean, it's. I say it's for me, but like, I mean, my screen timeline.

[Danny]

Post less than they did five years ago. Yeah. So social. Yes. What. What source is that? Okay. Yeah, so I was reading. It's from BBC. They were saying that a third of the users post less than they did five years ago. And I don't know, I kind of feel that within, like, my own friends, like, I don't feel like my friends post as much. I feel like they're not getting, like, their information as much from social media. It does feel like the younger generation, it's not as, like, I don't know, like, addicting for. For them as we think it is. I think it's actually more addicting for, like, our parents.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And, like, boomers are gone.

[Danny]

I mean, my. I, like, I can't talk to my parents without them scrolling.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I know.

[Danny]

Like, it's so funny. And I would. If I'm, like, with a group of people, like, I. I forget about my phone. Like, I just, like, completely, because I. I just know it's not going to do what I think it's going to do for my brain, and it doesn't really get me going anymore. So, like, I'd much rather be in person. But, like, our parents are always, like, one step behind. Yeah. But I think it is still very addicting for millennials. I was talking to a couple girls on our team team, and they are saying that, like, millennials are still all over Facebook.

[Jordan]

Really?

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Millennials.

[Danny]

Yeah. Like, especially moms. Like, because the groups and stuff.

[Jordan]

Oh, the. Yeah, the Facebook groups.

[Danny]

Yeah. Wait, I would kind of love for Facebook to make a comeback. Just, like, spice it up a little bit.

[Jordan]

I don't think so.

[Danny]

Wait, why, though?

[Jordan]

It's like, honestly, and I know I sound so old, but for saying this, but, like, it's hard for me to navigate.

[Danny]

Like, Facebook is, like, a lot.

[Jordan]

It's kind of confusing. Like, I can't. I feel like I can't even log in.

[Danny]

I don't even know. Like, I have a. A Danny Austin page, and then I have, like, a personal page, and I. I don't even know how to switch between the two.

[Jordan]

I know. I can't figure it out.

[Danny]

They need to make it more, like, user friendly. Maybe our parents should teach us. Your mom's a master at Facebook.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

She could help us out.

[Jordan]

Yeah. She's got a lot of friends on Facebook.

[Danny]

She's, like, famous.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

On Facebook. Do you ever go and just stalk, like, random people from your past on Facebook? Just see what they're.

[Jordan]

No, I don't have Facebook. I can't figure out how to get in.

[Danny]

Oh, I deleted it because of all of Your controversial posts?

[Jordan]

No. How many controversial. No. I can't figure out how to get into my Facebook.

[Danny]

It's so funny.

[Jordan]

And I'll try, and then I'll just be like, I don't really care that much. And then it's like, linked to this like, like UT email address, and I'm like, it's gone.

[Danny]

Oh, it's gone.

[Jordan]

It's gone.

[Danny]

See, I. I would say, like once a month I go and like, stalk someone from my past, and I'm just like the most random person.

[Jordan]

Really.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

That's kind of what it's good for, though.

[Danny]

Yeah. And I'm just like, what are they up to? And there's this one guy.

[Jordan]

Do they. Are they posting still?

[Danny]

Yeah, some. Yeah. Yeah. There's this one guy from. From high school. I don't know if I'll say his name. He was.

[Jordan]

It never goes well.

[Danny]

True. But I'm actually having to say good things about him.

[Jordan]

But.

[Danny]

Okay. He was like the biggest pothead, like, at the time. And he was one of the kids that like, came to our high school kind of late. And he. He grew up in, you know, that, you know that neighborhood that's like North Dallas, that's gated. It's really close to where I grew up, but it was like all the rich kids or rich, like, states, like, huge. Okay, whatever. You don't know what I'm talking.

[Jordan]

No, I do know what you're talking about.

[Danny]

Okay. It was like, like, at me growing up, I was like, this is where, like, the celebrities live, you know?

[Jordan]

Anyway, you've showed me this. Neighbors.

[Danny]

He had a house in that neighborhood and it was like super modern. Looked like an elevator. Like, you know, back in like 20, you know, 2010, 2009, like, it was like really crazy. And he got transferred from private school to like, our school. And he. His parents were never home. So we had so many parties at his house, like, and we. People would just like, trash his house. Like, the whole football team would show up, like, anyway. But he. Because he was rich, he would always get everybody weed. I didn't smoke weed back then, but, like, he was just kind of known for that. So I was just like, I got to see what this guy's up to because, like, he's just so. It's. I have to know. And he is like, he has like four kids, like, super normal. Was like, all his kids were like, dressed in like these smocked dress, like, super preppy, like, has his life together. Had like a super legit job. And this was like the one guy in high school that I was like, he's gonna end up on the streets.

[Jordan]

Dang.

[Danny]

You know, so sometimes it's not the typical high school story. You love that I know as I love. I love a happy ending.

[Jordan]

You love to hear it.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

He's good for him.

[Danny]

I wish I could say his name, but no, I won't. Yeah. So back in the the.

[Jordan]

Do you ever get any messages from people from your past? Facebook. You ever check those?

[Danny]

I never look at this. Yeah, my mom runs into a lot of my friends, parents at the gym because they still live in the same neighborhood. And she'll tell me that they talk about me sometimes.

[Jordan]

Good, bad, both.

[Danny]

You never.

[Jordan]

It's a mixed bag.

[Danny]

You never know. 2016, cultural moments. Donald Trump elected the first term Pokemon Go craze. Oh, remember how dangerous that was?

[Jordan]

Pokemon Go.

[Danny]

Yeah. Remember, like, people were, like, falling off cliffs?

[Jordan]

Oh, yeah.

[Danny]

Trying to follow the Pokemon.

[Jordan]

Wow. Was that 2016? We were in Colorado 10 years ago.

[Danny]

Beyonce dropped Lemonade, the album. Yeah. That didn't feel that long ago. I thought that was, like, more recent.

[Jordan]

No, that's the scary part is that 10 years will go.

[Danny]

Leo. Leonardo DiCaprio finally got his first Oscar for the Revenant. That's crazy.

[Jordan]

That is crazy.

[Danny]

He deserves a lot more. Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt split up. Justin Bieber makes his comeback. Wow.

[Jordan]

What was his comeback?

[Danny]

The Mannequin Challenge. That was so old. Oh, my gosh. Is this when people used to do the planking. Planking challenge. Remember planking? Vine was still alive. The clowns. I don't know what that is.

[Jordan]

I don't remember the clowns either.

[Danny]

Kim K. Vers. Taylor Swift icons passed away like David Bowie, Carrie Fisher, Alan Thick, George Michael, Muhammad ali and Prince R.I.P. wow. 2016, baby. Okay. Things that make you go. Hm. Let's talk about Blake Lively versus Justin Baldoni.

[Jordan]

Oh, gosh. She told me all about this in the car.

[Danny]

Yeah. So I guess the world just can't get enough of it ends with us drama. So let's dive back in, this time with Taylor Swift. So, long story short, a lot of these text messages between Blake Lively or emails between Blake Lively, Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, all these celebrities. Taylor Swift have come to light because of this. This case. And I honestly don't understand why they're pulling all these personal text messages and emails. It really scares me. And just like, it feels very intrusive, and it really scares me because they're so personal. And it makes me feel like we all need to Be on watch. And, like, just like, you can't trust anything. It makes me want to voice memo everything.

[Jordan]

Have you.

[Danny]

I hate when people say my voice memos too. I'm like, what, are you gonna try to sue me? Like, I literally, every time it's, like, saved, I'm like, you're suing me? I like, it's so I. I make sure that I don't save people.

[Jordan]

Would you rather have your bank account drained or your text messages released? I saw this trend.

[Danny]

Probably my text messages released.

[Jordan]

Yeah, same.

[Danny]

You know, because then I could just go live a private life while every he.

[Jordan]

I oftentimes think about if my text message got released. And I. What I always think about is, I would say, honestly, I hope that they're released so people understand how funny I am over sex. I say it a lot to myself.

[Danny]

You are funny.

[Jordan]

Like, I would say, like, yes, there's probably some things that I shouldn't have said, but, like, at the same time, like, you gotta admit, it was funny.

[Danny]

See, I. For the same reason that I've never taken nudes. Yeah. I always assume that my text messages are being read by somebody else too.

[Jordan]

Yeah. So that's a good practice.

[Danny]

Most things that I've ever. And I think it's because when I was in high school, some girl texted, like, a nudie to a guy on the football team, and it got out. And I feel like I learned that lesson, like, from her that year, and I was like, anything and everything I ever post, especially with the icloud and all of that, like, anything I say, like, could be.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

You know, released. And so I actually feel like my text messages. I'm definitely. Probably harsher, like, in person. But, yeah, I try to be pretty vague in my text messages. If I'm like, you know, anyway, it just. Yeah, it feels yucky that they're releasing these. And I. I truly think that that is why Taylor Swift and Blake Lively are not. Are no longer friends. It. Their friendship, I think, was. Was on the rocks before. I think they were having struggles before. But I think when Blake Lively submitted those. Because she submitted all of these texts and messages and emails. I think when she submitted them, Taylor was like, why are you including me in this? Like, leave me out of this. I am going on tour. I'm like, in my tour, I'm getting engaged to Travis Kelsey. I'm, like, trying to build my life. Like, please just keep me out of this. Like, what do I have to do with this? I let you use my song. Like, you should not be I would be pissed. I'd be pissed.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

I think if I let somebody use my song and, like, my work, and then you're pulling me into the. The case.

[Jordan]

Like, did she. So did Blake's team release all these?

[Danny]

Yes. Blake released all these to make herself look better, but they don't really make her look great. They make her look a little manipulative, in my opinion. So.

[Jordan]

Dude, anyway, if I was Ben Affleck or Matt Damon, like, I'd be like, I'm not talking to you anymore. Like, well, so weird.

[Danny]

So what happened was a lot of things seem to be, like, weird on set with Justin Baldoni. And I'll. I'll agree with that. I think he was a little unprofessional. I think he said things he probably shouldn't, said anything that he should be, like, sued for. I don't know. I don't think so. I think he was just kind of like a creeper weirdo. And I don't know what his religion is, but I think that Blake was, like, kind of creeped out by his religion and she kind of felt like he was in a cult. And I think it was like his first experience doing such a big project that there's probably some mistakes that were made. And Blake is very experienced. She's very, like a feminist. Like, she's very strong willed. She's probably an 8 on the Enneagram where she's like, I'm gonna take. Take over and just like, do what I want. And so I think just naturally the personalities clashed. And so she had a very poor experience working with Justin Baldoni. And she kind of like, she calls him all these horrible names, like a clown. He's a douche. She's the worst. He's a narcissist. And you know, those things might be true, who knows? But at the end of the day, there were these two edits that were being done. So Justin, he purchased the rights for this movie. Like, for five years he was working on trying to get this movie. He worked with the financiers. He's the one who, like, this is his movie. He's directing, he's acting in it. Like his movie. Blake was just cast as, like, an actress. This is not her movie. She doesn't own it. Nothing. So. But while they're filming, Justin starts to feel like Blake is trying to take over his project and. And trying to in kind of starting to step on his toes. So he probably felt disrespected anyway. At the end of the day, Justin House has this edit of the movie that he's submitting to Sony. And then Blake, 10 days before the edit is due, takes all the footage and edits her own, which she's not really. Like, that's really not fair. Like, she doesn't own the rights to the footage. Like, it's like. But she just steps in because she. I'm sure she wants the movie to be great, so she edits her own version. So they submit them to, I guess, Sony, and they do, like, an audience test. Like, you get an audit. Audience score. And Justin Baldoni's version edit won by, like, a landslide. So people liked Justin's movie better, which really pissed off Blake. So Blake wrote all these emails and text messages to all of her celebrity friends. Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Taylor Swift. Did I say Ben Affleck? Yep. And included their wives and wrote these pretty lengthy, kind of manipulative emails and text messages asking them to, like, basically back her edit and not Justin's. And now he's a total joke. And this has been a nightmare. It's been the worst experience of her life. So I guess they released all these. These text messages to show that she was distressed and she was, like, annoyed. But to me, they didn't really, like, prove anything, except for you have famous friends that you're trying to manipulate, and, like, you're also kind of a mean girl. So the exchanges with Taylor and Blake Lively were funny to me. Like, Taylor Swift does call him the B word. But, like, you know, you go to bat for your best friend. Like, if Ellie were to come to me and be like, this person was mean to me, I'd be like, what's their address? I'll go beat him up. Like, you know, and you just kind of, like, you. You're just, like, being a supportive good friend. You're just being silly. Whatever. So Blake is going on and on and asks Taylor to come over to her. Or, like, actually, they go over to Taylor Swift's apartment with Justin Baldoni and asks if Taylor can kind of back her version. And. And. And Taylor agrees also to give one of the songs. I think it was all too well, I can't remember, to Justin so that he can use it in the movie. And Taylor and these, like, text messages or after the event, after they. They go to meet at Taylor Swift's house. Blake Lively is texting Taylor Swift and was like, wow, you were amazing tonight. Like, you did such a good job. You're such a good friend. Like, the way you were talking about different lenses was, like, so Amazing. And Taylor goes, yeah. He basically calls him a B word and was like, if he was smart, he wouldn't put my song in your. In the film. Because now you have the upper hand. Because basically Blake is the reason why Taylor let the song in, not because of Justin. And now it almost is like Justin, like, owes her something because now Blake got Taylor's song in it. So they're just being, like, manipulative little girlies. It's like, not really that bad. Nothing like that's like character destroying, in my opinion. But people are like, do have their panties in a ruffle that Taylor Swift called him a beautiful word.

[Jordan]

So funny.

[Danny]

But, like, yeah. So I would be. If I was Taylor, I would be pissed off, too, that I'm even being included in this conversation. Like, what do I have to do with any of this? I let you have. I tried to defend you. I tried to help you, and I let you have this song. And I really think that's probably, like, why they're not friends anymore. It seems like Blake kind of, like, lives in Blake's world and just like, we'll do whatever it takes to get what she wants. And I think that started to, like, affect her friendships. But, yeah, so it's. It's a very. It's very interesting, though, the way that they're handling this, and it's creating so much more drama. Like, I feel like people kind of want to be over this. But the thing is, in my opinion is, no matter what, Justin. Val. Justin Baldoni is going to come out on top. Even if. If Blake wins this case, everyone's going to be like, well, she had more money and she had more lawyers, and she had all of this, and they're still going to be like Justin forever.

[Jordan]

But what does he do after this?

[Danny]

Well, that's the thing. I don't think anybody will want to work with him because of.

[Jordan]

I know some saying all the way.

[Danny]

This kind of like. But I don't know if they're going to work. Want to work with either one of them.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I mean, I don't. I. I don't.

[Danny]

I mean, it'd be smart for someone to come in and work with them because it's just going to, like. Like, in terms of attention, like, people are going to want to know what he does next.

[Jordan]

Didn't he move to Nashville? He did, yeah. That's. I feel like all these celebrities, like, who have some falling out move to Nashville.

[Danny]

I want to see what his religion is. Justin. Religion. Okay. He is. Was raised in the ba. Bahi Faith, a religion that emphasizes the unity of all religions and people, though his family also honored his Jewish and Catholic heritage, celebrating with Hanukkah and Christ Christmas. His mother is Jewish and his father is an Italian Catholic, and both converted to Baja Faith. So they. I guess they're. It's a religion founded in the 19th century that focuses on the unity of humanity and the elimination of prejudice.

[Jordan]

Seems like he's a pretty welcoming guy.

[Danny]

Yeah. I mean. Oh, okay. Bahi faith was established in Iran under the Universal House of Justice in 1963, the same year that the founder claimed to be the prophet, foretold by the. Bob. Bob, an Iranian religious leader who died in 1850. So, yeah. I don't know. It just. And then apparently, whatever. Blake felt like it was, like, very cultish the way that it all came together. And then the whole thing where, like, somebody walks in on her while she's breastfeeding, like, that's brought up in the case. And. Yeah, it seems like there were just some weird things, but I don't know if it's like, I like, sue you worthy. Honestly, they both should have just come to an agreement and just, like, stopped, because this is just making them both look really bad.

[Jordan]

She's probably an enneagram 8.

[Danny]

That's what I was saying.

[Jordan]

Yeah, she is. She's got to be.

[Danny]

Yeah. I wonder what Ryan's thinking.

[Jordan]

He's probably thinking it's good for the marketing of the movie. He's like that, right?

[Danny]

Yeah. I don't know. He's just, like, not my favorite person either.

[Jordan]

Yeah, they've got some. They've got some rebuilding to do.

[Danny]

But you know what? I always think about how Khloe Kardashian came back from a dui. People love her, so it's like, oh.

[Jordan]

When did that happen?

[Danny]

Long time ago. But people come back from. Like, they're gonna be okay.

[Jordan]

Yeah, everyone's gonna be okay. Except Justin.

[Danny]

We also, like, remember, like, Justin and I like, DM sometimes.

[Jordan]

No.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Oh, during all of this.

[Danny]

Yeah. Remember he was Yeming me?

[Jordan]

No, I think that was, like, the PR people that he hired, but it doesn't.

[Danny]

Why can you not accept the fact.

[Jordan]

Sorry. That he. He DM'd you. He DM'd you. Yeah.

[Danny]

You were like Deming.

[Jordan]

Yeah. That was really smart. Remember when he, like, rolled out that strategy? He was like, I'm going to take this Internet first. He won on the Internet.

[Danny]

No. Yeah. That was his team.

[Jordan]

No, I know. That's what I'm saying. But he won on The Internet.

[Danny]

The thing is, I think that this. This hatred that everyone has towards Blake Lively, I think was building. Like, I don't think it was just over this.

[Jordan]

Nine times out of ten, if there's this much onslaught against someone, there's truth.

[Danny]

Yeah, there's truth. No.

[Jordan]

Any terrible person that has a good public perception that we know, it's like the. The masses. The. The masses of conspirators against that person. They're typically right.

[Danny]

Okay. This kind of reminds me of. Did we talk about the Brooklyn Beckham, David Beckham situation?

[Jordan]

No.

[Danny]

I know we don't have, like, too much time, but this kind of reminds me of how Brooklyn Beckham, I don't know if y' all saw recently, but he basically posted like, a. Brooklyn Beckham.

[Jordan]

Is a sweet name. That's a cool name. Like, that's a cool family. Cool name. Just vibes. Except for.

[Danny]

But I kind of always thought that Brooklyn was a girl that.

[Jordan]

That I. I could see.

[Danny]

I get confused a lot. Like, I thought that Brooklyn Beckham was his wife's name.

[Jordan]

Yeah, but, like, if you're. If.

[Danny]

Yeah, but if you know that he's a boy, it's a cool name.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's a cool name.

[Danny]

So Brooklyn Beckham came up with these stories basically saying that his parents are narcissists. People love that. That word that his.

[Jordan]

It's. It's getting out of hand how many times we're using narcissists these days.

[Danny]

Because, like, we could all be narcissists, if you think about it.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And it's also kind of like everybody thinks, couldn't you be a narcissist for accusing someone else of being a narcissist? Narcissists.

[Danny]

Oh, yeah.

[Jordan]

It's like, I don't know. It's just so overdone.

[Danny]

Like, we need, like, a new word. Like, I feel like everybody's kind of like, that's been overused.

[Jordan]

It's a catch. Yeah. I feel like.

[Danny]

I feel like it doesn't really mean the same thing it used to. No. Either.

[Jordan]

No, it's like, it's gonna lose its sting.

[Danny]

That's what I'm saying is, like, he's a narcissism. Like, like, okay, everybody is, apparently. So he came out with all these stories where he was defending his wife and saying that he has no desire to rekindle or to work on a relationship with his parents or his family, saying that his mom was trying to, like, destroy the relationship. She, like, messed up Nicoletta's wedding dress, and she said she was going to make the wedding dress, and then she didn't. Like, right before the wedding, he said that his brother has turned against him. He said his parents only care about the perception of, like, how they live in the public eye. They don't actually care about them. And he just did this whole, like, I don't know how many Instagram stories. It would probably been like, four to six Instagram stories, like, of just, like, all this text, basically attacking his parents, saying they're horrible, which is so tacky. Like, so tacky. And even if those things are true, I. It really left me with, like, a very poor taste of Brooklyn back up in my. In my mouth. Like, I'm like, why are you dealing with this publicly? This is so immature. Like, go talk to your parents privately.

[Jordan]

Well, his accusation was that his parents. Parents were leaking stories.

[Danny]

Oh, leaking stories in the press, which.

[Jordan]

If that's true, I kind of am like, good for you. That is hard because, you know, his parents are pretty connected to the royal family.

[Danny]

Uhhuh.

[Jordan]

And the royals are pretty good at those tabloid leaks, you know, and so that's so true.

[Danny]

And so, like, maybe he felt like he had to. Like, he did say, this is the first time I'm defending myself.

[Jordan]

Years. Yeah.

[Danny]

It just seems like it did so much damage. Like, I feel like there was ways that he could have made a public announcement with. Without being so catty. Like, I feel like there are ways that you can say something without saying all those, like, details. So, like, what, like, what I would have done is, like, hey, like, I've seen that my parents have been leaking this information to the press. Like, this is totally inaccurate. In fact, I would really appreciate if my parents and I could deal with this, like, offline and, like, be more. More, like, mature about the way that we deal with our family dynamics. It's been hard. I love my parents, but right now I'm taking, like, a break because we're just trying to figure out how to, like, build our family, you know, like that.

[Jordan]

How old is he?

[Danny]

Maybe 26, 25.

[Jordan]

It's kind of that age where he's like, I'm my own man. I'm. You know, he's going to regret it. By the time he's 30, he'll regret probably everything he does.

[Danny]

Well, apparently David Beckham was asked about, like, his son, and he was like, well, you know, sometimes your kids just have to make mistakes. Like, I thought it was, like, such a badass answer. It is because he's just like, you know, he. Brooklyn thinks he's doing the right thing right now. But one day he'll realize, like, all these stories, like, what he did, defending or, like, attacking our family.

[Jordan]

He's newly married. He's like, I'm doing it my own way. Like, it's very common, I feel like.

[Danny]

So here's what I learned, though. So everybody is saying that I'm not gonna lie from the outside looking. I don't know that much about Victoria Beckham, but she doesn't seem like the best mother in law in the world. And not in a way that, like, she's mean or manipulative or whatever. I just feel like she's so consumed. It's almost like being related to Kim Kardashian. It's like she's so consumed with her own thing that she's just probably not, like, a very thoughtful person. Like, it's. And she's probably so used to, like, everything being about her and not in a way that's like, you know, we're not going to be like family anymore, but it's just like, it's always about Victoria and David Beckham. And so I think a lot of times Nicoletta probably feels like, man, she didn't go out of her way to, like, to really, like, think about me or to think about our feelings or how it affects us. And, like, I could just see how that maybe trickles down and, like, kind of annoys them, but apparently. So Justin Anderson went on his stories and, like, has done Nicoletta's hair before, and it's like, coming out that Nicoletta is, like, the worst.

[Jordan]

Who's Nicoletta?

[Danny]

His wife. Brooklyn Beckham's wife. And that she is really a really scary person. Like, one of the meanest people in Hollywood. Like, very, like, actually mean to people. Like, kind of like JLo vibes.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

And she apparently is a Nepo baby. I don't know, like, much about her, but, like, comes from this, like, really big, wealthy family, and people are saying that she's actually the biggest problem. And so then you get, like, these two powerful, like, women in there that are both, like, the show is about me. And it's probably hard.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Well, isn't it a two dominant, like. Well, it's also like a. There's also, like, always a dynamic when a son. When your son marries someone else.

[Danny]

Right.

[Jordan]

It's, like, hard for a mom, probably.

[Danny]

Oh, yeah. But see, I don't know. Like, I just feel like. I feel like I take on more of, like, my mom's perception of things. Like, when I think about someone marrying My son, I think of, like, a new best friend. Like, I'm like, oh, my God, I get a new best friend. Like, I get, like, a new girlfriend. I get to hang out with. And, like, my mom really does that with, like, Olivia. Like, she kind of adopted her as, like, her own daughter. And everybody used to always think, oh, my gosh, is that so annoying that your mom and Olivia are, like, so close? And I was like, no, it doesn't. Like, I'm her daughter. I know that she loves me, and I love that she's making an effort to, like, be close with Olivia, too. And that's just the way I feel. Like, that's how, like, the U.S. like, my mom and I think where I'm not like, oh, my God, I'm so jealous. I'm like, yeah, we get to all hang out, like, and so it's hard for me to put myself there. But yeah, I mean, I guess if I felt like they were, like, not treating my. My boy right, but honestly, I'd be like, I get it. He's sometimes like, you know, sometimes he, like, doesn't pick up his laundry. And I'd be like. I'd be like, girl, we'll. We'll get this. This together.

[Jordan]

Yeah, but that's toxic, too. But anyway.

[Danny]

But, you know, like, in a funny way, not, like, a serious way, I.

[Jordan]

Think that Brooklyn is gonna regret this in the next five years.

[Danny]

Yeah. Just the way you did it was, like, super caddy. You could have made a post defending yourself without attacking, but I don't know.

[Jordan]

Something about, like, the mid, like, 25 to 30. For men, you're a little off a rocker.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You just think you know everything.

[Danny]

Totally.

[Jordan]

And then you really don't.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And then it takes you until, like, 30, 32 to be like, ah, because.

[Danny]

Y' all mature a little bit later than us.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

So.

[Jordan]

Well, our prefrontal Corvetex isn't developed until, like, what, 23?

[Danny]

I don't know. I think for. For women, it's 22. So y' all's just probably 30, right?

[Jordan]

25.

[Danny]

It's just like, a couple more years.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Yeah. So he'll. He'll. He'll come around.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

But I mean, and his parents will forgive him.

[Danny]

I just. The last thing I'll say about this is when. When people do this. Like, I have seen other influencers do this about brands or they do this about, like, products they don't like, or Brooklyn did it to, like, his parents. It. You think that you're defending yourself and you think you look like you're coming out the stronger person to me, it makes me not want to, like, touch you with a 10 inch pole.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Because I'm like, why would you not do that to me? Like, and the fact that you're willing to go so public on, like, your parents, like, just shows me that, like, I don't feel safe around you.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

And so I think it just. It was just an overall bad decision, but. But it made for some great TikTok content.

[Jordan]

Okay. We love you guys so much. Bye. Bye.

[Danny]

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