Putting “Happy Wife Happy Life” to the Test

Summary

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De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan

Episode: Putting “Happy Wife Happy Life” to the Test

Date: April 16, 2026

Hosts: Dani & Jordan
Podcast: Dear Media

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Dani and Jordan, a married couple with over a decade in the influencer industry and parents of four, put the saying "Happy Wife, Happy Life" under the microscope. Through candid, humorous, and sometimes heated banter, they dissect their own marriage dynamics, domestic priorities, and decision-making processes around family, home life, and work. They dive into their unique challenges—from storage wars to parenting roles—and consider the social and industry-wide implications of influencer family content. The episode is a blend of personal storytelling, social commentary, and insightful debate about modern marriage and family life.

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Key Themes and Discussion Points

1. Domestic Realities & Storage Wars

Timestamps: 03:35–16:20

• Estate Sale Adventures
  Dani and Jordan recount their morning trip to an estate sale—using it as a metaphor for making time for each other and “stopping to smell the flowers.” This experience segues into their long-running debate over house organization and storage needs.

• Storage Obsession

  • Dani reveals her intense need for storage, recalling past house-hunting rejections solely based on lack of storage solutions.
  • Dani: “I save your life and you don’t even realize it...” (06:44)

• Stroller Scenario

  • The couple discuss their eight strollers for four kids, with Jordan humorously lamenting space lost to strollers while Dani defends their usefulness.
  • “We need the strollers.” — Dani (13:12)
  • “You think that keeping strollers is for my needs?...So you think that having a playroom is for me?” — Dani (13:22)

• Home Office vs. Playroom

  • Struggles over designating home spaces—Jordan’s wish for a gym or office vs. Dani’s insistence on child-centered areas.
  • “If you get more storage, it enables more things.” — Jordan (10:43)
  • “Because I was feeling pretty anxious, but I don’t know...” — Dani (30:50)

2. Marriage, Gender Roles, and Decision-Making

Timestamps: 16:21–21:18; 41:09–52:40

• Needs and Sacrifices

  • Jordan expresses a sense of recurring self-sacrifice for family harmony, echoing “happy wife, happy life.”
  • “If wife is stable, then everyone’s stable. 100%. Everyone is stable.” — Jordan (51:03)
  • He questions if the husband's role is “pure self-sacrifice,” sometimes wondering about having his own desires at home (51:27).

• Learned Helplessness

  • The duo jokes about “learned helplessness” in domestic chores—where one spouse, after repeated criticism, simply stops trying, especially around things like preparing kids’ food a certain way.
  • “Now I have to make eggs again.” — Dani (41:37)
  • “Well, I mean, I thought I was. This is the first time hearing about this warm food issue.” — Jordan (42:01)

3. Parenting & Postpartum Experience

Timestamps: 22:56–31:18

• Postpartum and Medication

  • Dani discusses her experience with postpartum symptoms, including trying a new medication (Zurzuve). They openly talk through the side effects, emotional impact, and Dani’s desire to feel “up, not down.”
  • “I told Jordan, I was like, babe, I’m not going to take this anymore. It’s making me so tired. He’s like, just take one.” — Dani (30:39)
  • “It’s like a little cinnamon sprinkle now on top.” — Dani, on her anxiety level (31:09)

• Candid Parenting Moments

  • Dani and Jordan highlight the messy reality of raising four kids, from morning routines to meal preferences, and the chaos of everyday logistics.

4. Influencer Industry & Social Legislation

Timestamps: 52:55–59:56

• New Influencer Child Labor Laws

  • They dissect new legislation concerning children under 14 in monetized online content, weighing the intent (kids’ protection/compensation) vs. practicality and overreach.
  • “Is this just the government putting their hands in places they shouldn't be?” — Dani (55:18)
  • Both reflect on their approach: never forcing their kids to appear in content and always prioritizing their choice and well-being.
  • “I always tell brands...if my kids want to be in it, they will. But I can’t guarantee it.” — Dani (57:08)

• Work Ethic & Content Creation

  • Dani makes comparisons between “working kids” today and in her childhood, defending the notion that early family involvement in work builds valuable skills (56:05–59:08).

5. Pop Culture & Conspiracy Theories in the Influencer World

Timestamps: 60:42–75:10

• Analyzing Scandals & Motivation

  • The couple theorize about recent reality TV dramas and influencer strategies (especially relating to Taylor Frankie Paul, the ‘Secret Lives of Mormon Wives,’ and The Bachelorette).
  • They debate whether certain scandals and social media cues are authentic or manufactured for publicity and longevity in the industry.
  • “When you start playing the game of ‘any press is good press,’ that’s what the producers probably are telling these wives, too.” — Jordan (63:55)
  • “She would...She’s an executive producer.” — Dani (64:55)

• The Cost of Reality TV

  • They reflect on the personal cost of living openly online and nearly participating in a reality show themselves.
  • “That’s what makes a really strong marriage—if you can wither the storm.” — Dani (73:07)
  • “Life just comes full circle...That’s why this podcast is so interesting...” — Jordan (75:10)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On storage obsession:
  “I save your life and you don’t even realize it.” — Dani (06:44)

• On strollers and house organization:
  “We have four children...We need the strollers.” — Dani (13:12)
  “We have passed on houses because Dani didn’t know where we would put our eight strollers.” — Jordan (06:57)

• On marriage negotiations:
  “If wife is stable, then everyone’s stable. 100%. Everyone’s stable.” — Jordan (51:03)
  “Are you listening to this?” — Jordan, playfully exasperated, pondering self-sacrifice (52:40)

• On “learned helplessness” in marriage:
  “It’s like, I’m not going to try.” — Jordan (41:38)
  “You kind of make it worse, because now I have to make eggs again.” — Dani (41:33)

• On family content and new laws:
  “We teach our kids how to work and we involve them in our work...That’s how I learned how to work.” — Dani (56:05)
  “Is this just the government putting their hands in places they shouldn’t be, in my opinion?” — Dani (55:18)

• On influencer scandals:
  “What is real? What is not real? That’s a very fair question for me to ask.” — Jordan (62:26)
  “Any press is good press.” — Dani (63:12)

• On nearly joining reality TV:
  “Well, we never did the reality show, but we almost did.” — Dani (75:18)

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Timeline of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------------|---------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00–04:48 | Estate sale, quality time, marriage moments | | 05:33–13:13 | Storage, strollers, and house-hunting dilemmas | | 15:29–17:10 | Arguments over office, gym, and home spaces | | 22:56–31:18 | Postpartum journey, medication, and parenting honesty | | 41:09–42:57 | Meal prep “learned helplessness,” parenting roles | | 51:03–52:40 | “Happy Wife, Happy Life” theory, marital roles | | 52:55–59:56 | Legislation on kids in online content, social impact | | 60:42–72:13 | Reality TV scandals, influencer strategy, authenticity | | 72:13–73:15 | Reflections on family, marriage, and fame | | 75:10–End | Full-circle reflections, nearly joining reality TV |

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Episode Highlights & Tone

• Authentic and Unfiltered: The episode is a real-time mix of relatable marital banter, raw confessions, comedic quips and pointed pop-culture analysis.
• Engaging & Insightful: While hilarious at times, the conversations offer genuine insights into marriage, parenting, gender roles, modern work, and the ethics of influencer/content-creation industries.

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Conclusion

“Putting 'Happy Wife, Happy Life' to the Test” is a refreshingly honest look inside marital compromise, family chaos, and influencer industry realities. With self-deprecating humor and vulnerability, Dani and Jordan show that there is no manual for balancing individuality with partnership, work with family, or authenticity with public life. The episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the messy, beautiful, behind-the-scenes dynamics of modern family and influencer culture.

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Transcript

[A]

Foreign.

[B]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast, de Influenced. If you're watching this on video, I have a big stain on my shirt that looks like it's like on my boob.

[A]

You got two now I have two stains. Yeah. Yeah. There's a big circle. Circle and then a small circle.

[B]

How did you know that?

[A]

I see it right now.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. Those were both. So if. If that's what it looks like, that's what it is.

[A]

Yeah. It's really hard to see though. Like, I would have never known unless you pointed it out.

[B]

I'm really sad. So this is a nudes shirt. I got it when they launched at Nordstrom because I basically only buy things from Nordstrom. Like, if you're not at Nordstrom, I'm probably not buying you or Ulta. Yeah. And so finally lunch at Nordstrom and I was like, add to cart. I got two of them in a size medium. And I'm so sad cuz this one, I wore it one time. It's already ruined.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not their fault. It's my milk's fault. But now I'm like, what am I. I just. I'm still going to wear it.

[A]

Why don't. Why don't we dress up more?

[B]

I feel like you're literally just talking about me.

[A]

No, I'm actually. I wear the same thing every day. People comment all the time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't know. I can't. I think about it all the time. I'm like, I have clothes. I can afford to buy clothes. I don't know why I don't want to do it. I go back. Like, I look forward to Mondays and Wednesdays because that's my day to wear

[B]

this shirt, the gray shirt.

[A]

Because I can't be wearing the same shirt every day, but I rotate pretty much means three. Yes.

[B]

I know. It's the weirdest thing. I know when you. Sometimes you do go off and you wear like a blue shirt and like,

[A]

look, these pants, the belt loop is broken.

[B]

Are those Lulu or aloe or Danny?

[A]

I. I don't know where these pants came from. I've worn these pants for like four years. I think they're cheap Amazon pants.

[B]

Really? They might be mine.

[A]

No, there's no tag. But like, they're my.

[B]

I can figure it out.

[A]

They're my go to pants.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

But like, what's gonna happen is summer is going to come around and then I'm gonna switch to my viori shorts.

[B]

Yes. Your legs have Been looking fire lately. Thank you. Oh, wait. Oh, you don't want to talk about it?

[A]

No, I don't want to talk about it. Okay.

[B]

Oh, I thought we were gonna. I thought you're gonna, you know, make it a moment. Be like, tell me more like. And just like, beg for more. You know how you do.

[A]

No, I only do that privately with you because that's my love language.

[B]

Words of affirmation.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you're. You're very selective about.

[B]

Well, you know why I gave it to you?

[A]

Why?

[B]

Cuz you went on a walk with me to that estate sale this morning,

[A]

which was quality time.

[B]

Quality time.

[A]

Which I said yes to because I said, this isn't about the estate sale.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is about quality time.

[B]

I mean, and you know, it wasn't that. Say salt sucked. Sorry.

[A]

Yeah, it did suck. It was like, weird stuff.

[B]

It was weird.

[A]

Why would I buy a hammer?

[B]

Did you go into, like, the shed in the back with all the stuff?

[A]

I didn't like being there.

[B]

Bad things happened for sure.

[A]

Yeah, I know. They.

[B]

So it was actually a scene out of a movie where you walk in and they're like, all of the saws and knives are, like, hanging on one wall. And then I don't know if you saw this, there's like a really freaky looking mirror with, like a light bulb attached to it. I'm like, what were you looking at?

[A]

Because, like, in my mind, when you asked me to go, I was like, realistically, we could go after the podcast and that would be better for me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's like, I just was like, this is the moment. It's the fork in the road.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If I say yes now, I feel like that will mean more.

[B]

Because if you say no, then I think, then what's the point of life if we can't walk to an Estate.

[A]

No. 100%.

[B]

What's the point of us being married if we can't stop and just go to an estate sale? And like.

[A]

And here's the thing, you're not.

[B]

Have a good time.

[A]

You're not wrong.

[B]

I know. People just think. People get so stressed out about work and doctor's appointments and all these things, and it's like, stop and smell the flowers and go to the estate sale.

[A]

Yeah, I'm teasing.

[B]

I'm teasing.

[A]

No, but kind of.

[B]

No, but yeah, but like, within reason.

[A]

Yeah, within reason. Yeah. Yeah. So we had fun, though.

[B]

But yeah, the estate sale was interesting.

[A]

That was my first time. Do you know that?

[B]

At an estate sale. You know, I'm so Sad. I've never been to an estate sale that just, like, really hits, like, every single time I go, I'm like, I'm going to find some friends furs. I'm gonna find some hidden pearls, some, like, really cool vintage cowboy boots. No, never. It's so annoying when people are on Instagram, are like, I went thrifting, and I went. And they find all this stuff, and I'm like, how, like, when I go to Goodwill, I don't find anything good.

[A]

Yeah, the. Is there a difference between an estate sale and a garage sale? Because I went to a lot of those.

[B]

Oh. Did you know that tornado had so many garage sales that the city of Dallas, like, had to, like, come and, like, investigate our. Our house?

[A]

Yeah, that makes sense, babe.

[B]

The amount of garage sales that I have had in my, like, worked in my life with my mother. Yeah, babe, I, I can't even tell you. It's like, I grew up in a garage sale. Like, I, I, it's just like, wow. So many memories are unlocked when you said that. But yes, the garage sale is different than estate sale. An estate sale. I, I'm assuming an estate sale is, like, usually when someone passes away, and it's just like, you go through their home, you know, you hire a company, they put on the estate sale, and it's just like, everything, like, they were selling literally everything. Like, newspaper clippings.

[A]

Get Clorox.

[B]

Clorox. Like, anything left over, which is really great. If you need tools or if you need cleaning supplies, whatever, you can get it for, like, a dollar. You can get hammers, saws, whatever. My favorite thing that I found there was that rack. The storage rack.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That was pretty nice.

[A]

Danny's obsession with storage is the most fascinating thing in the world, guys. We've been looking for a new house for straight up, three years, and we have passed probably on seven houses because there just simply wasn't enough storage. It wasn't that there was no storage. It was that there wasn't enough to satisfy Danny's conception of potentially all of the things that we have.

[B]

Can I tell you something? You are. These are things that you don't know that you need to thank me for. Because. Because you don't know how much I'm saving you from just clutter all around our house. Like, our playroom has a closet. Most playrooms that we look at don't have a closet. Think about all the toys in that closet. They would be out in your house.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where would they go?

[A]

No, I'm not talking about that. Story.

[B]

I saved your life.

[A]

I'm not talking about closet space.

[B]

The amount of times I save your life and you don't even realize it. It's. It's just crazy. No, guys, I'm just not appreciated around here.

[A]

We have passed on houses because Danny didn't know where we would put our eight strollers. I was laughing with the designer who was designing this last house. I. She was like, well, how many strollers do you guys have? And I was like, listen, we. I pulled her aside and go, listen, we have eight strollers.

[B]

We have four children.

[A]

I was like, we have eight strollers. I do not know. Try, but she will not get rid of any of the strollers. I was like, this garage is not big enough for the strollers, Jordan.

[B]

Okay, first of all, you know why we won't get rid of the strollers? We have a wagon. We have a double stroller.

[A]

We've never used the wagon.

[B]

We use the wagon on Halloween for one.

[A]

We should rent a wagon.

[B]

No, no. And Stella asked me. I'm not. I'm actually not even kidding. Two days ago, Stella asked me to go to the park, and she said, can we go in the wagon?

[A]

Did you take her? Stella is five years old. She. She can.

[B]

No, I know.

[A]

Or scooter or ride her bike.

[B]

She didn't want me to. She didn't want to. She wanted me. I pushed her in a stroller to the park. No lie.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

I did. What if I wouldn't have had a stroller for her in that moment? What am I, like, just a horrible mom?

[A]

Yeah. What if.

[B]

So we have a double stroller, a wagon, a single stroller, a stroller with a bassinet, a travel stroller.

[A]

I just wish that I. I wish I could take this mic off the rack and throw it at me. No, no, no, no, no. And walk into the attic and take an inventory of all of the useless crap that we will never touch in our lives.

[B]

If y' all can't see me, my jaw is literally hitting the floor. It's on the floor right now. I have to pick up my jaw and put it back in my mouth because you're calling it useless crap. It is Halloween decorations, Christmas decor, Easter decor, Valentine's Day decor, St. Patrick's Day decor. Jordan, I am making this house a home, and you are not appreciating it. Pillows. I don't mind Christmas lights. You know, I'm saving presents for next year.

[A]

It's very similar to, like, my fear sometimes of giving you more storage.

[B]

I just want you to, like, think, live a year without me. See what happens? You'll be walking around on crap. You'll be on the show Hoarders all of a sudden.

[A]

I will be on the show Hoarders.

[B]

Yeah. Because you won't know where to put everything.

[A]

No, I'll get rid of things.

[B]

Yeah. And then what are you gonna do when Christmas comes around? Your kids are gonna be so sad because it's not gonna feel like Christmas.

[A]

We could. We could. Honestly.

[B]

No Christmas spirit.

[A]

No, we will get. We will get new toys, but then I will very covertly throw away all of the other toys. Donate them.

[B]

You're gonna look at your receipt at the end of your life and be like, wow, I spent $200,000 on Christmas decor over the span of 40 years because I got rid of it every year.

[A]

No Christmas decor.

[B]

Listen, that's what's mainly in there, honey.

[A]

Okay, Listen, can I tell you something? This is.

[B]

This is also. Bassinets are in there because we always were like, we might have another baby, we might not. I also save all of Stratton's clothes because he's four, and I have a. Another one year old and a newborn coming up, and I don't want to buy new clothes, so I save all of his clothes, all his shoes, everything. It's passed down. Do I have a storage closet for. For that, too?

[A]

I'm just saying. I understand, and I think that this house has an adequate amount of storage. But the houses that we have been looking for for our four children are much larger houses, but they.

[B]

But they're built by men that are dumb and don't know that we need a lot of storage. But if there was a house we looked at that was like 8,000 square feet, y', all, and it literally had no storage, no place to put Christmas trees, no place to put your strollers. Like, no decoration, nothing. It didn't even have, like, an attic. I was like, this is so built by a man. It's so annoying.

[A]

But if. If my fear. Beautiful.

[B]

No. Beautiful home.

[A]

My fear is if. That if you get more storage, it enables more things.

[B]

No. And you know that, babe, I'm like the opposite of a hoarder. I throw stuff out all the time.

[A]

You do. You go through purges.

[B]

I purge so much. I'm like the opposite of a hoarder. Like, if you. If it's left out, you better watch out. I'm throwing it away.

[A]

Right?

[B]

No, I. Babe, have you seen our attic? Have you seen these. These closets? They're immaculate. They're Beautiful. Because I keep everything very organized.

[A]

Yeah, okay. You're right. I'm so wrong. I'm sorry.

[B]

Are you just saying that. No, I want to be appreciated.

[A]

No, I. I do appreciate. I do think when we walk through these new houses, you. You think females think functionally different than men. And I have appreciated a lot of things. I would say my. The hills that you seem to be dying on are two hills that I disagree with, which is. I'm not. I'm gonna say one.

[B]

There's one where there's, like, a wine room, and I'm like, get rid of it. Storage.

[A]

Yeah, it's like, make it storage. But even that one I totally agree with. Because you're thinking functionally.

[B]

Because I'm like, our kids are gonna be hanging out in this room. Where are the games gonna go? Where are all the toys gonna go? Where all the stuff he's gonna go, like, all the coloring books and the pencils and the pens and the scissors and the crafts, like, that is going to be the room for that. Now, when you walk through their home and they stage it. They stage it as this, like, beautiful, beautiful club room. It's, like, got a pool table. It's got a picture of a horse on the wall. And I'm like, so it's so sweet that you guys are staging it like this, but this is going to be a family home, like, for young children. And so where are we going to put all of our crap, baby dolls?

[A]

Maybe the reason I don't appreciate you. Oh, maybe the reason I don't appreciate you on these two subjects, storage and the stroller garage, is because multiple times through looking through these houses, you have taken what I imagined to be my office and made it storage and put me in the attic where storage should go.

[B]

No, I have taken what should have been your office, and I made it the playroom.

[A]

Yeah. Or the playroom, because the playroom always

[B]

needs to be in the first floor.

[A]

There's been a couple houses where they put. The office didn't have a gym. And I was like, oh, it's okay. I'll, like, build a gym in the garage. And you're like, mm, we can't be doing that. The strollers go there. And I'm like, we don't need the eight strollers. And you're like, jordan, we have four kids. We have four children.

[B]

We need the strollers.

[A]

So maybe. Maybe I feel a little spicy towards those needs of yours because I don't feel like you're. I feel like I have to combat them. For my needs.

[B]

Oh, so you think that keeping strollers is for my needs? So you think that I think having a playroom is for me?

[A]

Well, here's the thing. Is that the reason I don't have a voice is because I'm sorry that

[B]

I prioritize our children.

[A]

This is why I don't have a voice. Because in your mind, you've created this trump card that you're like, I'm not actually thinking about me. I'm thinking about the betterment of my family and myself. My selfish husband is wanting a gym.

[B]

But, babe. So. Okay, I'm just saying though, like, think about. So the way our house is set up, we have our kitchen and then we have this room that attaches to the kitchen. That was probably so.

[A]

I get it.

[B]

No, let me.

[A]

I've heard the speech.

[B]

I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to my. My audience. Okay. Okay. So we have our kitchen, and then we have a living room that's kind of like an open concept. And then we have this room that probably was an office that's connected. I turned it into a playroom. I added built ins in there. We have four young children that should not be upstairs without our eyes on them. Okay, so we can't put our playroom upstairs because I can't have a newborn, a two, a one year old, a three year old, and a five year old upstairs playing by themselves. Maybe Stella, but it's just not a good idea. So we need that playroom to be within eyesight of the main heart of the home. Because also, like, I don't want them swallowing Legos or eating sand or whatever. So I turned that room into the playroom. That's basically what I'm doing in all of these homes where Jordan's like, oh, this will be my gym. And I'm like, no, that's gonna be the playroom. Because this is like where we. We have to watch our small children. And then he gets his butt hurt.

[A]

Well, because then, yeah, I don't get my butt hurt. I understand what you're saying.

[B]

You obviously do. Well, talking about it.

[A]

I understand what you're saying. But then.

[B]

But then, you know, babe, I would love to have a nice gym too. I would love to have a wrapping room and a craft room and how about a massive ass closet? I don't get any of that.

[A]

You always get the nicest office. You always.

[B]

No, I don't get the nicest.

[A]

You always get the biggest side.

[B]

Your office is so much bigger in the house that we're looking at. And it has a bathroom and a closet connected to it.

[A]

See, I think you're just trying to manipulate me.

[B]

I'm not. I would kill for that office because I would love to have my own bathroom and my own closet and my own. It's like my own quarters. But this one is connected to the closet and I'm going to put a secret door in it.

[A]

Yes. That's the other thing. Not only did she take the best office, she literally connected it to her side.

[B]

You know what? I'm just going to stop working. Okay. I'm just going to stop working. Okay. And so you can run my Instagram. You can run my Instagram stories, you can do my try on hauls. Okay. And then also, it's so annoying because your work doesn't really require any needs. Like, I need good lighting. I need a place to change.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I need, like, good storage. Put all the clothing that I want to try on for my stuff. I get, you know, my products sent in. I have, like, a little, like, my office actually does affect my work. Yours doesn't. You're on the phone all day long. You could talk anywhere you want.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're just. I'm. I'm actually getting upset. I'm getting upset and you cool down. It's so annoying because, like, you don't even really need anything. And I'm just asking for, like, so that I don't have to right now, whenever I do, like, an Amazon, like, if I'm going to try something on, I don't have, like, decent lighting from my closet. So I run basically half naked to my office. So I was like, oh, this would be amazing if I can just put a secret door in my closet that leads to my office. And he's got. He's all pissed off about it. Sorry. I don't want to be running through the house naked anymore.

[A]

Luckily, I mean, luckily, I think that we may have found a house that satisfies all needs. Right. There's a gym, there's a sauna.

[B]

No, there's not a sauna.

[A]

There's not a sauna. That's the other thing. That's the other thing in the negotiation that got taken out. And I know that you and this realtor chick.

[B]

Oh, my God. You think that the world is out to get you and we're really not. Nobody wants to, like, sorry that we asked for nice appliances over a sauna. We asked for a stove. That was a good quality stove over the sauna. And he's like, everybody's out to get me. I'm like, that's something we're going to use every single day.

[A]

The. Honest. This is the. This is the. This is truly.

[B]

I think you're being a little selfish. No, because I. You know what I want? I want one of those. Really? Does anybody ever want to know what I want? I think that no, because everything I'm doing is for the betterment of our family. But what about what I want? Okay, let me tell you what I want. I want one of those steamers in the closet that you put your clothes in. And it just like. It's like one of those Samsung things or like, I can't remember what brand. And you just put it in there, and it just seems your clothes. That's what I want. How come I never get what I want? And I want Sonic ice makers.

[A]

I think that.

[B]

And we didn't get that either, but

[A]

you know it's going to go in there.

[B]

No. First of all, those are so expensive. So I think there's a break all the time. I think when we're looking at the price of everything. I don't know if I'm going to get my ice maker, but I've let it go because I'm an adult.

[A]

So this is my last piece. I feel like I'm very clear. I've learned my lesson over three years of looking at houses.

[B]

I also would like a massage room and a room where I can get spray tans.

[A]

Okay, listen, I've learned my lesson over three years, and I walk in and I say, hey, guys, I just want to be super clear on the front end, I care about three things. Mosquito nets on the back porch. Two, would love a gym, but. But flexible if there's not space. And then three, an office.

[B]

Okay, so what do I get?

[A]

The entire house.

[B]

No, that's not true. What do I get that's special? You get the gym, you get the sauna. You get all this stuff. What about me? Where's my mahjong room? Where's my tennis court? Where's my pickleball court? I didn't get any of the stuff that I wanted.

[A]

You got your mirrors. You got your.

[B]

My mirrors.

[A]

Your.

[B]

You got my mirrors. Mirrors should go in a house, regardless. Houses have mirrors. Babe.

[A]

Oh, babe. This is so healthy for us because I don't think we should build a house together.

[B]

Yeah, we probably shouldn't. I'm gonna go build it with my boyfriend.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

Danny's been taking this. This experimental drug called Zazuza.

[B]

Franz is.

[A]

Who is that? It's called Zazafran, babe.

[B]

It's on the black market.

[A]

No, it's not.

[B]

I know.

[A]

No, it's not. It's like, It's. It's. It's FDA appropriate ZerSave. And it's supposed to be like replacing some hormone in postpartum that's lost.

[B]

It's a drug that you take for postpartum, but you only take it for 14 days.

[A]

Yeah, and I would say. I would say it's going really well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I. I wanted you to finish the sentence, but I personally say it's going really well. Yeah, I mean, you're a little sleepy sometimes.

[B]

I'm really sleepy. I slept a lot.

[A]

But I would say in a lot

[B]

of ways, anybody else has taken it. Can you let me know if that wears off? Because I do yawn a lot throughout the day and I. That's one thing about me. That's why I never really got into weed. I was just never really a weed girl. I didn't really like to smoke because I. I like to feel up, not down.

[A]

Yeah, she.

[B]

She's almost more into the Adderall situation.

[A]

Point.

[B]

Point B is an upper, not a downer. And this drug does kind of make you feel a little sleepy.

[A]

Yeah, she's. In a lot of ways. She's back. Well, she's back.

[B]

You know, I don't know about that. We'll see. Yeah, I mean, I'm obviously still feeling. Feeling a little irritable.

[A]

Yeah. Well, yesterday you took two of the

[B]

zoos of friends, not Zeus of friend. We made we're literally making this up. It's like, it's zur Z, I think.

[A]

Yeah. Well, you took two of the zuzu yesterday, and now you took one. And I would say yesterday you were less irritable, but more tired, a little bit more docile. Now you took one yesterday and you're a little spicier.

[B]

I was on planet Mars yesterday. I was like everything else that I was like. I was like so slow with everything because it made me so groggy. But today I did. I talked to my doctor about it and she was like, just take what also? Okay, this is so crazy about actually have chat gbt. Like, explain what this drug does because, let's see. Can you explain what zurzuve does? Like, I am five, five years old.

[A]

It's like, well, you're feeling sad.

[B]

It said, I have to tell you. Okay, Imagine your brain is like a big control center with lots of tiny messengers that help you feel happy, calm, or sad. Sorzybe is a medicine that helps moms who feel really, really sad after having a baby. This is called postpartum depression. Here's a simple version. Your brain has a calm down button. Sometimes after having a baby, that button stops working well. So you might feel extra sad, worried, or overwhelmed. Zer Zuve is like a helper that presses the calm down button again. It helps your brain feel pain, peaceful, less sad, get back to feeling more like yourself. And the cool part, it only takes two weeks. It's a helper medicine that tells your brain, hey, it's okay. You can relax skin.

[A]

You know why I know it's working is Danny. And her mom went and got their nails done yesterday, and Danny was holding the baby. So she called, like at 6, her mom and I call, I answered, and she goes, hey, is Danny around? And I go, yeah, she's holding the baby. Do you want me to tell her something? She goes, just tell her I had a really good time today. And I go, oh. I was like, here, let me hold the phone up to her. You tell her that it's not that y' all don't have a great relationship. It's just classic mother daughter stuff. But I was like, oh, this is interesting.

[B]

Like, you're like, hannah, it's a. Y'.

[A]

All. I was like, y' all didn't fight at all. Like, so that's how you know, like. Yeah, the secret is. I mean, that's. That's a walking ad right there for Zazuza friend.

[B]

Oh, okay. This is the weirdest part about the zoo. Wait, hold on. Can you tell me what is happening with hormones? Question mark? So I. When I'm postpartum, I have the worst night sweats, but I get this, like, stench. Like, I smell so bad. It's not like sweat like there. That's like, you know, you go outside, you sweat when you're working out, that just smells like sweat. Like, you know, this is just like a disgusting smell. And it always happens postpartum and it will always go away. But it's like postpartum. When I started taking this, it completely went away. I'm talking to nobody because Jordan's on his phone. So emergency. Does it has to do with me?

[A]

No, nothing to do with you.

[B]

Okay, then I'm good. Anxiety. That's usually the type of calls that you take like that. It's usually like. So People magazine came out with an article.

[A]

No, that's just your ptsd. No one calls me about you anymore. They call Jenny.

[B]

Danny.

[A]

She effed up.

[B]

She effed up.

[A]

She had to big.

[B]

So we're going to need her to go dark for a couple of days.

[A]

She's breastfeeding. We got. We had a nip slip.

[B]

Slip. That's already. That's probably already happened. Okay, so this is their Zuzave. Um, so it says your body has tiny helpers called hormones. They're like little messengers that can tell your brain and body how to feel. Two really important ones after having a baby are estrogen and progesterone. What happens after a baby is born? While you're pregnant, those hormones are super high. Right after the baby comes out, they drop right really fast. Like, imagine you're way up on a high roller coaster and then suddenly you drop straight down that b. That big drop makes your brain feel sad, anxious, overwhelmed. That's what causes postpartum depression. Whereas Zub Z comes in, your brain has a natural calm down chemical system. Think a cozy blanket. When hormones crash, that system doesn't work as well. Zeru helps turn that calm system back on. So even though your hormones dropped, your brain can feel safe again. I kind of wanted it. I feel like I should have been, like, explaining to me like I'm in high school, not like five. This is like, really not helping me.

[A]

But basically you were missing a hormone, and this gives you a synthetic version of the hormone to balance you out.

[B]

Yes. Yes, I guess yes.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, and it. It's working.

[B]

I know, but it makes me sleepy. Maybe that's because. You know what? I think it's like I'm basically in my first trimester. Again, that's why I'm sleepy. Cuz it replaced that hormone.

[A]

Oh, that's probably true.

[B]

It's a sleepy hormone.

[A]

But are you sleepy right now?

[B]

So sleepy.

[A]

Oh, like groggy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry. They say it wears off after like a week, though.

[B]

Oh, see, you were looking at me. I could not. Oh,

[A]

it's like you were like, you were like nails out a second ago and now you're like, let's cuddle.

[B]

I do feel a little. I do feel a little like this on this drug.

[A]

Like, like up and down. Yeah, I don't See, that's what's weird is like just objectively I haven't felt that from you. I felt like you, like, maybe a little tense, but, you know, I've seen worse. Like, I feel like it's been for you. You've felt very like yourself consistently. That's what I've appreciated about it. Not for you, for you. Not for me. For you.

[B]

I told Jordan, I was like, babe, I'm not going to take this anymore. It's making me so tired. He's like, just take one.

[A]

Just take one.

[B]

See what happens.

[A]

Let's not give up on it just yet.

[B]

Like, you got this, baby. Babe, you got this. Anyway, so that's been happening. Yeah. Because I was feeling pretty anxious, but I don't know.

[A]

Oh, yeah. How's your steady foam of anxiety?

[B]

It's like, just like, it's like a little cinnamon sprinkle now on top.

[A]

Really? So less, but it was like, like heavy foam, then it was like light foam and then it was like sprinkle.

[B]

Now it's like cinnamon.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

On top.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

And nothing else has changed. You're drinking the same amount of coffee and all that?

[B]

Yeah. I can't even finish a cup. I get a little jittery, a little crazy. I've never been a huge caffeine drinker though.

[A]

Yeah, you got a lot of natural energy.

[B]

I've never been like one that could take like three cups of coffee in a day. Except for when I'm depressed. That's when you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I could drink like seven coffees and I'm just out. It's so true, though. Like, that's literally like the. That is the litmus test for if I am depressed. But I'm definitely not because I drink a half a cup of coffee and I'm like, it's just always been a little too much for my system to handle. Yeah, you can drink a lot of coffee.

[A]

I know, I. I really should cut back because I used to drink a smaller cup than this but then I migrated the bigger cup and I could still drink more.

[B]

I usually do too.

[A]

No, I. I try not to.

[B]

Every year I get that itch. The itch to run around the house like a mad woman and change everything. Lol. Like once spring hits, I start noticing all the things that I want to update. Outdoor spaces, little decor swaps. Just things that make everyday life feel a little nicer. And if you're in that mindset too, this is actually the perfect time. Because It's Wayday. @wayfair.com From April 25th through the 27th, you can score some of the best deals in home. We're talking up to 80% off with free shipping on everything. What I think makes Wayfair really helpful is how easy it is to actually find what works for your style, whether your look leans more modern, classic, or somewhere in between. Their filters and reviews make it really simple to narrow things down without spending hours searching. They also have Wayfair Verified, which is basically their shortcut to the good stuff. Their team vets products through a quality inspection process. You can feel confident about what you're ordering. And if you're someone who doesn't love putting furniture together, which honestly is most people, they also have assembly options, which just makes the whole process feel seamless. It's one of these places where you can find both statement pieces and those functional upgrades that just make your home work better for your everyday life. Wayday is the sale to shop the best deals in home. We're talking up to 80 off with fast and free shipping on everything. Head to Wayfair.com April 25th through the 27th to shop Wayday. That's W A Y F A I R.com Wayfair Every style, every Home Something I think about all the time is how different our lives would look if we wouldn't have started our businesses when we did.

[A]

I know, oh my gosh. We would have been so much less stressed.

[B]

We're like, ha ha ha. Trust me, I've thought about starting a million businesses before Divi, but they all didn't really make sense. Divi really just came out organically. I had a personal problem that I just needed to be solved, which is what everyone needs.

[A]

I remember when you looked at me and you were like, hey, I can't turn on the tv and I don't know how to build this business. How do I build this website? And you were like, how are we going to do this. And I was like, I have a solution for you.

[B]

No. Because I've always worked by myself, so I had no idea how to build a team, how to start a website, let alone manufacturing and the actual product.

[A]

But to be fair, I never knew how to act. Actually saw problems people cared about. That was you.

[B]

Thank you, babe. Thank you.

[A]

Yeah, so the. The number one thing is, like, we honestly couldn't have done it from our unborn son's nursery without, like, a reliable official platform behind the business. And, you know, it's always really scary to start something, but, you know, as time goes on, has gone on, platforms like Shopify have kind of really changed starting a business because you can do it essentially overnight. So it makes it possible for regular people or early entrepreneurs or solo entrepreneurs to really build something real.

[B]

Or for moms.

[A]

Or moms, solo entrepreneurs. I don't. I don't. Those can be male. Male or female. Shopify is basically the backbone of how we run our storefront today and has been the backbone of how we ran it in the past. So when we were in our unborn son's nursery, we literally launched our website, like, overnight. It's where we currently still manage our products, our orders, our customer data, everything. And what I like is it. It. It's. It helps us really, like, own our business and understand our business because they're really good at, like, the analytics side of the business as well.

[B]

Yeah, that part really is huge. And can we also talk about shop? Hey. So as an online. Avid online shopper, it's something that makes checking out so much easier. Like, I don't have to pull out my information every time, especially when I'm pumping, you know, and they ask for all this, these numbers, and, like, I don't have to do any of that. Shop pay is like, everything.

[A]

Yeah. And I mean, not to mention fewer abandoned carts, which we know how much revenue a business can lose from being like, oh, maybe I'll get this. Oh, my, my child's crying.

[B]

People just get distracted. Quicker, faster, easier, better conversion rate, less friction, which is. Equals more conversions, which equals a happy business owner. And. And now they have something called Sidekick, which is basically like an AI co founder. It helps with things like analyzing sales trends and optimizing your site. I swear, AI is just taking over, which is great because you're not doing all of it manually anymore.

[A]

Yeah. And honestly, if you had Sidekick when we started Divi, you wouldn't have needed me. You could have done it without.

[B]

That's so true.

[A]

So, you know, most founders, I Think start businesses because they love, like, the product side, like, Danny. They don't want the spreadsheets and, like, the hassle and the manufacturing and all that. And all. You know what's great is that Shopify has made all of that a lot more streamlined for people who just have an idea and want to start something.

[B]

Truly. Because, like, that's not why I started a business. I didn't want to deal with all of that stuff. I was more interested in, like, the mission and the creativity and the product development.

[A]

So maybe if you want to start something, this is your sign from this ad. Go build your store, own your audience, and create something. Last start on Shopify.com Danny Jordan has

[B]

this weird thing about him that he can. He eats all food cold and drinks coffee cold.

[A]

I can eat food cold.

[B]

I've been meaning to talk to you about that.

[A]

That what?

[B]

That you serve our kids cold food a lot.

[A]

No, I don't.

[B]

Yeah, you do.

[A]

Is it because I make it and then I get them dressed and then

[B]

they come down, it's cold, and I really don't like that. I really don't like that. I don't want to set that precedent for my children.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

They can. It's okay to eat cold food.

[A]

Don't become like your daddy.

[B]

Like your dad?

[A]

No, like, you're saying, like to them. Don't become like your daddy.

[B]

No, I just, like, I don't. That's just so not cool. Like, I want my kids to eat hot food, you know, I just want the best for them.

[A]

Okay. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. And I. I don't. I don't like when you do that, cuz, like, ew.

[A]

Is it really that much colder when I'm upstairs? I mean, how long am I upstairs? Like, 10 minutes, babe.

[B]

I want to serve them food right off the skillet where they have to, like, blow on it to make sure they don't burn their tongue.

[A]

You've been really thinking about this so

[B]

much, and I, like, for years, honestly. And I've never told you. I've never told you. You know why? Because I'm not a naggy wife. But I'm telling you now, and it makes me sick. It makes me sick when you feed our children cold food. But, like, you know, it's like one of those things where, like, he's making the food, so don't complain.

[A]

Yeah. So you're like that about their lunches too. Oh, let's just get it out right now because there's been. There's been steam coming out of Your ears when I make their lunches every morning.

[B]

No, I don't. I'm not mad about it. But, like, you literally give all of our. Like, you give Stella the fruits that she hates, and you give Stratton the fruits that he hates. I'm like, just swap them. Because Stella doesn't like grapes, and she doesn't like cheddar bunnies, and she doesn't like a lot of things. And it's exactly what Jordan. What Jordan gives her.

[A]

I mean, we have the. We have the regular bunnies, and then we have the cheddar. And then Danny's like, don't give her the cheddar.

[B]

She likes the regular ones.

[A]

Right?

[B]

And so. And then, you know, but honestly, that. That doesn't bother me because, like. But then Jordan's like, whatever. Like, they'll learn. I'm like, no, they're just not gonna eat it, and they're gonna come home starving, you know? Yeah, but it's okay. I'm actually not. It's the cold food thing that I'm like, because you know what? I don't want to eat cold food. But you don't care. But just because you don't care doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't care.

[A]

You don't want to raise our kids like that.

[B]

It's like, no, I want the best. I want them to, like, remember, like, hot food at home. Like, you know, like, the one thing about my mom, she always gave me hot food, you know?

[A]

But it was expired.

[B]

No, I'm saying, like, three years. No, I'm. No, I'm saying that's what I want my kids to say about me.

[A]

Oh. Oh, got you. I was gonna say, you know when

[B]

they're, like, 60 years old and they're like, what kind of childhood? And it's like, my mom always gave us hot food. My dad, though, food was always cold. You should. If you're gonna be serving, like, food like that, you need to be doing some eggs, salad, sandwiches, things that don't need to be hot.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Quinoa salad, Caesar salad.

[A]

It's just so hard because hard boiled

[B]

eggs, those could be cold. So, you know, you really. Yogurt. You can be on yogurt.

[A]

I need to switch it up. I need to get them dressed downstairs after.

[B]

Well, eggs are so fast to make. You can make them in, like, two minutes.

[A]

I know. I do. And then they're too hot, and then I go change them.

[B]

No, babe, we want. We want steam coming off of the eggs on our plate, okay? We want to be like, we want to be like, I gotta touch it to make sure it's not going to burn my tongue.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, that food is so much better hot.

[A]

Have you ever heard that term learned helplessness?

[B]

I've learned helplessness with the tv. I don't want to learn it.

[A]

Yes. It's kind of like. Yeah, it's kind of like I feel. I feel like there's this phenomenon where it's like, probably good, meaning husbands who are trying to help just kind of give up on trying.

[B]

Well, you kind of make it worse because then it's like, now I have to make eggs again.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But it's like, you were trying to

[A]

help, but then what happens is then you guys get resentful because you're like, they're not helping. But it's like every time I've tried to help, I've gotten my hand slapped. So it's like, it's kind of learned helplessness. It's like, I'm not going to try.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

No, I'm not. No, I'm not saying I'm not going to try. I'm saying that this, I think, is. Is an interesting.

[B]

But, like, why don't y' all just do it? Right?

[A]

Well, I mean, I thought I was. This is the first time hearing about this warm food issue.

[B]

I just like.

[A]

I know it blows your mind, the

[B]

fact that you're even okay with that cold food.

[A]

Well, to me, it's not.

[B]

Kind of like when you sleep with sweats on.

[A]

It's like, oh, yeah. Every night. I can't not sleep with sweats. And my eight sleep is really warm. Yeah. I don't know. I know this is who you married. It's just me. It's just me. What are you gonna do?

[B]

No, I. I resonate with the learned helplessness. There are things that I just don't want to learn anymore. I want you to do for me.

[A]

Yeah. And I know that you can do it, but you. But you prove to me that you or you communicate to me that you can't, and then you actually can't.

[B]

What are some things I can't do? I can build pretty much anything.

[A]

Like, put together things.

[B]

Yeah, I can put together things. I could figure out tools. I can. One thing I can't do.

[A]

Know what day it is.

[B]

I don't know what day it is most days of the week. Anything to do with our insurance over my head. I don't even know. I don't know. They're like.

[A]

I don't really think they're like, does

[B]

your insurance cover this? I'm like, yep. I don't know. I'm like, jordan, does it cover this? I don't know. I don't know. Anything to do with working the television? I don't know. I don't want to know. I want you to come fix it for me.

[A]

Yeah. I would say, like, it's interesting because you're planning Stratton's entire birthday party.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is, like, three weeks in advance. But if I'm like, hey, what should we do this weekend?

[B]

No, I can do it. I just.

[A]

Yeah, but you don't want to. It's the weirdest.

[B]

It's not that I don't want to. I just don't want to have plans.

[A]

I know. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

But if. If I had to have plans, like, if we were going to go to, like, Ella Langley concert, get a party bus before, and then, you know, spend the night at a hotel, like, I could definitely do that 100%, and I would kill it.

[A]

Well, but, like, this Saturday, for example, like, I. I like to have plans. Even when it's like, see, I like

[B]

to wake up and be like, what are we gonna do today? It's like, where is the wind gonna blow us?

[A]

No, I know, I know.

[B]

So fun. It's like, we wake up and we're like, let's go get donuts. And then what do we want to do? Bike ride? Nah. Let's go swimming. Okay. Let's go chick fil A. Want to have a picnic? Nah. Movie night. Yeah.

[A]

No, I know.

[B]

It's just like. It's like a day of summer. It's like, you know when you woke up in summer, like, and you just, like, had no idea what the day had for you? It's the best. No, you just walk outside and you're like, hey, Alex Phillips, like, let's go play. It's like, what are we gonna do?

[A]

I just don't know if that translates to four kids.

[B]

I know. That's why I just let you play in it.

[A]

No, but then you don't, because then I asked you, and I'm like, hey, like, what? What do you want to do this weekend? And then typically, what happens is you're like, let's go see a movie.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, well, we can't take a newborn and summit to the movie. Yeah, but then we don't have, like, plans. Yeah, we don't have a plan.

[B]

So then, like, it's like, what else are we gonna do? You Know, it's like, that's so great. Like we have to have. We gotta figure this thing called life out with four kids.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So then I'm like, let's go to the mall. And it's total chaos. And I'm like, hit me again. I love it.

[A]

Yeah, that makes sense. That adds up is I think that you're very. Your question was, what can I not do? And I would say, which.

[B]

Think ahead.

[A]

Like, well, no, like plan a normal day. Like we can plan Ella Langley's and Travis birthday parties like a normal day. I don't think that you like to think through like the logistical impact of the situation.

[B]

Totes McGoats.

[A]

Which, you know, maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, you know, maybe I'm wrong for trying to like engineer a Saturday or make sure that like, everyone's stable. F me.

[B]

Like, are the kids fed? I don't know. So well, what would you want to do this Saturday?

[A]

Well, I'm trying to get the pool fix because like, I think that that would be fun for the big kids.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

You know, they're loving half price books. Stratton is Stella's like, okay with.

[B]

It's not really much, but that's.

[A]

But that's the thing is that like, we, we have so many kids. Like, we can't just like peace out and take the big kids somewhere. Like, like, it's got to be something that's like, good for.

[B]

I know.

[A]

For everyone.

[B]

And that that's what's so exciting about it.

[A]

To figure it out.

[B]

To figure it out.

[A]

Like even a bike ride. We can't go on a bike ride.

[B]

Yeah. Unless I stay here.

[A]

Unless you stay back, you know.

[B]

True, true.

[A]

Which I'm totally cool with. But then I'm like, okay, well, I want to plan things for the big kids. But you're like, I want to wake up and figure it out then. And I'm like, well, okay, well like, what if I need to like get. Get a new tire for the bike?

[B]

See, the thing is, is like with a newborn and a 14 month old, you, we can't really go anywhere anyway. It's like, what would be planned that would. We could take four kids to. I mean, we could go to that new place Rod has. Place.

[A]

Yeah. With the newborn.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

The Rowan Club or whatever.

[B]

Uhhuh.

[A]

Yeah, we could do that. See, this is like, look, we're generating ideas, thinking this is what I. Every Monday I'm like, I'm going to soft sell it and be like, hey, think about what you want to do.

[B]

This weekend, I got an ide.

[A]

Wednesday, I come to you and I'm like, hey, have you thought about this weekend? Then on Thursday, I'm like, danny, what are we going to do this weekend? And then on Friday, I'm like, hey, listen, I'm afraid there's going to be conflict if you. If you don't tell me we're going to do this weekend.

[B]

I got an idea. How about this? So we all pile in the car. We all go get breakfast. Tacos, all wait in the car with the kids. You go inside and get them. We'll eat the tacos in the car. We'll do the same thing. We'll drive to Merritt. You and I. You and me, we get a coffee, all run inside since you went inside and got the tacos. And then we'll drive to Rowan Club. We'll go inside, eat our tacos, and drink our coffee while our kids play.

[A]

You did it, dude.

[B]

I'm telling you, it's about to be the most lit Saturday of your life.

[A]

And. And listen, what made that so. Why couldn't you have told me that on a Monday? Because it's not fun.

[B]

Because, like, I probably. We probably would have done the same thing. I just would have figured it out in the moment.

[A]

Yeah, but. And that's the thrill.

[B]

Yeah. It's just like not being told what to do.

[A]

Yeah. So you. If it's on a Monday, it's. You're being controlled. But if it's on Saturday morning, it's

[B]

like, yeah, I'll change it up. Maybe I'll choose Whataburger and get a HBCB instead.

[A]

The flexibility, the optionality. That's the fun part. Wow. What are we going to do on Sunday now that I have you?

[B]

Well, the good news is it'll take, you know, two hours to get ready for church, go to church. Nap time. Right after.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then I just say we chill and, like, watch a show or something.

[A]

Totally. Wow. We have our weekend planned.

[B]

Well, we, like. We really had to plan that out. See, I hated that. I hated that. Everything about the last minute, I hated. Because what if I wake up and I want to go to the mall instead, after. After church? Are you gonna just, like, disown me?

[A]

Well, the. The. The real side of this is. Is technically speaking, who's controlling who here, because technically, you would be controlling all of us to your whims.

[B]

Well, I would ask you guys what you want to do, but you never really care.

[A]

I know. That's true. That's true. Okay. That's Fair.

[B]

You never really have an opinion, so it really is up to me.

[A]

That's fair. That's true. Wow. There's some. There's some nuggets in here. I don't know what they are, but there's some nuggets.

[B]

Last night, Jordan was like, are y' all like this?

[A]

So I. I have a theory that it's most the time, it's like, I think that men are like, happy wife, happy life across the board. Like, even going back, this is where we're going to tie this whole episode in a bow.

[B]

Even the Roman Empire.

[A]

No. Even going back to the house. It's like, these are the three things. But I would trade those three things for happy wife, happy life, 1000%. I would have my office be in a closet. I would throw a fit. But I would do it ultimately, because happy wife, happy life. And I think that that applies to weekends, too. It's like. And I've noticed this about myself, that it's like, whatever. I feel like if. If wife is stable, then everyone's stable. 100%. Everyone is stable. But sometimes I question. I'm like, okay, should there be. So then. So then is the. Is the thing for a husband. I'm genuinely asking. This is the thing for a husband to just have no expectations or wants or desires. And maybe that's the truth. And it's like, that's. The role is like pure self sacrifice. And I'm honestly, generally, okay. I'm 90% okay with it, 95% okay with it. But I don't know. I don't know the answer. I feel like a lot of it is just you're. You're taking the little victories when you can, because you're so right. Happy wife, happy life. Like, I'd rather not get to do necessarily what I wanted to do and her be happy than me do what I want and her not be stoked. Yeah, but like, yeah, no, for sure. But then there's those other guys out there that are like, hey, I run my ranch. I'm going to be. If I want to golf, I'm going to be golfing. And I'm like, is your marriage really good? Like, how do you have a good marriage in that scenario? I don't know, because, like, I feel like. I feel like the happy wife, happy life concept is the key to a happy marriage. It's the key to her being fulfilled and me being fulfilled. Right. And the kids being stable. Are you listening to this?

[B]

Yep.

[A]

What happened now with you?

[B]

I just want you to see how it feels.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

No, there was just a law that

[A]

passed, the influencer law. I saw that.

[B]

Are you done?

[A]

Yeah, but we already do all that stuff, right? It's like you gotta, you gotta like have a trust or.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like compensate your children for every video. Yeah, no, I think it's great. Yeah, we already do that.

[B]

Like even a video where you have affiliate sales.

[A]

I don't. I think just generally speaking, like what they're saying is like, your kids need to be on payroll for the business.

[B]

No, it says specifically. The bill is a Senate bill. 1469 does not allow children under 14 to appear in online videos that make money. Adults who violate this law can receive a two thousand dollar penalty. The bill was passed by House, blah, blah. If an adult creates a video with a child who is at least 14 and that video brings in money, the bill requires the adult to place part of the earnings into a trust account for that child.

[A]

Oh, so 14 and above or under 14.

[B]

If a adult creates a video with a child who is at least 14.

[A]

Yeah, so. So this doesn't apply to us, but I think it's great.

[B]

Oh, if they're at least 14?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh. It doesn't allow children under 14 to appear in, in any online videos that make money. So I guess it's like if you like, if I was like, I really like this stroller and my kids are in the video, or if I'm like wearing a solid baby wrap or something. You can't make money off that video. I don't really make money off my videos though.

[A]

Yeah, that's not really how it works. Well, we'll have to look into that one.

[B]

Well, you know what, it's okay to put these kids to work sometimes. I mean, come on, how are they gonna learn? My mom raised me in a garage sale. I was chilling when I was 4. Like, get over it. My kids have it pretty good.

[A]

I think that if what they're trying to do is like, make sure that your children, like if your kids don't turn. If the parents are building an influencer business around family content and they're not putting something like compensating the kids in some form or fashion, whether it be through a trust or payroll. And so the kids turn 18 with nothing, even though they've like, quote unquote, like worked for it, I guess I understand.

[B]

Is this just the government putting their hands in place places they shouldn't be, in my opinion?

[A]

I honestly, I kind of agree on this one because I'm like, dude, like,

[B]

you can't you're gonna.

[A]

You're gonna. I just.

[B]

And it's like, the way that. It's just so frustrating. It's like the way we also don't spoil our kids is we teach them. And I'm not saying through videos, like, this is not. I'm not relating this to the Internet, but it's like. Like, I feel like one of the reasons why I have this work ethic is truly, y'. All. Like, my mom did, like, we would set up a table at El Mercado in San Antonio, and I was like, five, six years old, and we were selling fake cats like my mom. So what. What's the difference between that and working in some other capacity? Like, we were just working. And honestly, I probably would have much rather been making fun videos with my parents.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Than selling trinkets on the side of the road in San Antonio for hours on end. It's like, we teach our kids how to work and we involve them in our work. And, like, my dad took me up to the market center and he would have me, you know, setting up clothes and showing clothes and sometimes wearing the clothes to help sell them. And that's how I learned how to work. And it's like government, like, keep your hands out of, like, where they shouldn't belong. Because we're just. Also, now, not every parent is going to be, you know, fair about these things, but that's just the way that the world works. Like, you know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I would say just because you have a couple of bad apples doesn't mean everybody needs to pay.

[A]

Well, also, I. I can't speak for every family out there, and I'm sure that there are parents that handle it different, but there's never a scenario in the past, like, five years that I can think of where it's like, hey, I'm going to set up this camera. Selly, you're going to perform and do xyz. They're in the background of things.

[B]

Yeah, but, like, like, you're holding a

[A]

baby, like, because you're, like, filming holding a baby. But.

[B]

Well, that's the number one thing. We never. I always tell brands if they ever want my kids to be involved. I'm always like, it is not a guarantee. I'm like, if my kids want to be in it, they will come inside. In fact, Stella is, like, annoyingly in the camera. I'm like, stella, can you scoot over? I'm like, my video. And she's like, getting up in the face, mean, like, here's my outfit. Whatever. But so I'm always like, I'm not, I don't ever tell brands that my kids will be in a video. I'm like, it's just, I can't guarantee it because I also don't want to force my kids to be happy whenever they're throwing a fit. That, that feels ick to me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But if they happen to be in something, then I'm like, it is what it is. Like I know influencers get this bad thing. Like you know, but, but my parents were working all the time in front of me. My mom was a model. Like I would go to shoots and see her shooting or I would go to see, you know, she did commercials and stuff like that.

[A]

Like, realistically, how are they going to enforce this?

[B]

Well, they're gonna see videos.

[A]

Yeah. But like, like there's just gonna be someone on the government side just like scrolling and.

[B]

Yeah. Like everyone's so organized they'll be able to do that.

[A]

Yeah. And then also like how are they gonna verify whether the child was compensated or not? Like that doesn't. It kind of just feels like this like fluffy idealistic bill. Like let's say I agree with it in principle. Like I don't see how it's enforceable. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a weird thing. And it's guys, just like, like there's, think of all the tick tockers now. Like everyone's a content creator. Like how the heck are you going to enforce this at mass scale?

[B]

To me it's like, okay, fine, if you can't do this then you shouldn't. Then you can't have kids working at all anywhere. Which just makes no sense.

[A]

Which is the law under 13?

[B]

Like, but like shadowing or dude, like which like kids should learn how to work before they're 13.

[A]

Well like, like think about.

[B]

That's just my opinion.

[A]

Think about like when, when we first founded America, like it was very common to like and even the Amish probably, like they raised their kids like helping to work the farm.

[B]

Go, go get some chicken. Their eggs, go milk the cow, go. Yeah, kids should learn that they're valuable and that they can do like these, like they can produce and create really cool things at a young age. It's like then they're going to be so entitled by the time they're 13, 15 years old. Cuz they're not going to learn how to work. And work just looks different these days. And I know people get their panties in a. But, but it's like the like video social Media content is the future. Like, that's how everybody is making a living these days. It's like,

[A]

I know. I'm with you. You know what? I'm not the enemy in this podcast. You know who's the enemy?

[B]

The government.

[A]

The government. Let's just, let's.

[B]

Uncle Sam.

[A]

Let's make sure that your. Your spiciness is directed where it needs to go, which is not at me.

[B]

I would just like to announce that I will be running for president against Jake Paul in 2031. I just picked up that here. I don't know. You know, Jake Paul said he wants to. He's going to run for president. Yeah, he's like. He's like, not because I want to, but just because we need it. That's what he said. Literally. He's like, you know, man, like, everybody in my life is telling me, like, I. He talks really slow. So everybody in my life is telling me I need to. So, you know, I don't want that. I don't want that future for myself. But I. I'll do. I will make that sacrifice.

[A]

I think he's just. He knows how to get clicks and views and conversations started.

[B]

Jordan, he was being dead ass serious.

[A]

No, Jordan, I think it's just.

[B]

You're so, like, everything is a conspiracy theory for you. Like, he still thinks that Taylor, Frankie Paul, it wasn't all real. He's like, they. She knew that was going to come out. Like, she's. She's just doing it just like to, you know, build her brand or whatever.

[A]

I'm. Okay, listen, I do have another data point on that though, because, babe, she's

[B]

been going through hell on earth. That's what she said.

[A]

I know she's been going through hell on earth, but the one thing I find strange is that Demi and Brett did that weird musical thing.

[B]

Are they coming out with a song?

[A]

Right? Yeah. No, no. Do you remember that? So they did. Okay, listen. They did that. Jen Affleck is like all of a sudden on her story. She's like, I'm getting into music and like, like, she'll like, film on her story.

[B]

They all need something because the show's about.

[A]

No, I know. Playing piano. And then Taylor, Frankie Paul just yesterday posted herself playing piano. And she's like, I'm learning. So I just. I genuinely have this belief that, like, I'm not saying it was all contrived, but they are all strategically building towards things.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

And I think that she is so freaking smart.

[B]

Every influencer does that because they don't Think that their fame is going to last forever. So they have to find another. They have to become singers, dancers, you know, just something else.

[A]

Yeah. And it's like, listen, I don't know if I'm right about Taylor Frankie Paul, but, like, Jesse from the show got, like, did a whole photo shoot and leaked a clip of her and Marciano holding hands.

[B]

Yeah, but that was just funny. Like, she's working it. Like, she's kind of like Aspen over working it.

[A]

Right. They're all just working it. So, like, what is real? What is not real? That's a very fair question. Question for me to ask. Like, for example, Jesse's like, oh, my gosh, like, first holiday Easter, you know, without my baby's divorce is hard. And I'm like, okay, are you genuinely saying that or are you just, like, playing into this role, Jen Affleck showing up without her ring to that one video? Like, are they going through a hard time? Are they not?

[B]

Or sometimes you just. I. I get in trouble. I shouldn't be working out with my ring on.

[A]

Right. But, like, when she posts that, like, I just believe that they have producers and they have publicists that are very strateg.

[B]

I don't think it's always that calculated. It's not that calculated. Sometimes it's just like, I literally forgot to put my ring on and now everybody is assuming all this stuff.

[A]

Then why not come out and quickly correct it? Like, why?

[B]

Because you're getting momentum. Why correct it?

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Yeah. So just let it happen. But I don't think it was all that calculated. I like, okay, for example.

[A]

You're probably right.

[B]

For example, if I were to. Okay, so in like six weeks from now. Actually, never mind.

[A]

I know what you're gonna say. Do something without your ring on.

[B]

No, like, if somebody thought I was pregnant or something.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, any press is good press.

[A]

I know, but. So, okay, here's my whole thing is, like, you and I know that, yes, every press. But, like, when you start playing the game, except your real life, somebody has a mother.

[B]

And that's why I don't think that Taylor Frankie Paul's is fake. I think it's real.

[A]

Whenever you start playing that game of any press is good press. That's what the producers probably are telling these wives, too.

[B]

No, it's not. It's not even a producer telling them. We all know that you can be an influencer or not. We all know that.

[A]

Right. But the producers of this show are probably in their ear Saying, guys, like, we got to come back bigger and better next season.

[B]

Apparently, the show is done for. That's why they're all finding their thing.

[A]

Allegedly.

[B]

Oh, my.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Like, this is that guy.

[A]

Allegedly.

[B]

Everything is allegedly.

[A]

Allegedly. But my. My point is, like, I think that they're all playing the game. Okay?

[B]

Of course.

[A]

And I think that you're playing the game, too. But I think that Taylor, Frankie, Paul is willing to play the game at a level that none of them are willing to play. And I'm just not putting it past her that she would be willing to play the game at the level she played it to hype both the Bachelorette, if it ever gets aired, and also the comeback of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

[B]

She would.

[A]

She's an executive producer.

[B]

Want that video out on the Internet. No one would. She literally hit her child with a stool. Like, not good.

[A]

That's. I agree with you.

[B]

I agree with you that that would be. Now if she hit him with a stool, put it out. I'm like, big guy, he can handle it, you know? But your child in the room, like, that's where people don't f around, obviously, with children, like, they don't f around. And that was not meant to come out. She did not want that out. Nobody wanted that out.

[A]

But, like, I. I'm not. Okay, so let me be super clear. I don't. I. I agree with you.

[B]

Like, can you imagine if there was a video that came out? Just think about this where I was so angry at you, I threw a stool and hit Stella. Like, that would be horrible. Horrible. Like, there would never be anything worth promoting for A, for that to even happen. B, for that to come out on video. Like, it. Do you. I can't imagine the hell that she has been in if that would have come out. Like, that's why she's posting these. I think she's. That's why she's learning piano, because her life is so bad right now. She literally came out on Easter and was like, I've been living like. Like hell on earth the past 40 days because she is hated so much. Do you know? Much hate I get whenever the seat belt isn't right on my children. Like, I literally feel like I can't be online for a week. I. I can't imagine what she's going.

[A]

That's fair. That's fair.

[B]

If you put it into perspective like that. And although she is crazy and although she, you know, maybe lost sight of what is important for a little bit, she loves her babies. No mom can't like, you just.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I, I definitely. I don't think that she leaked it. I don't think it's like, as simple as that. I don't think she probably. I also agree. She probably didn't know.

[B]

Definitely didn't know.

[A]

Yeah, definitely didn't know.

[B]

I think she did some interview where she talked about where she was when she found, like. Yeah, they're.

[A]

They're all just flying really close to the sun right now. They're like, they're. They're using their real lives to promote a show. They're blurring the line between reality TV and actual reality. And like, I just wouldn't put anything past them. I agree with you. Taylor Frankie Paul probably didn't do that. But when you get into that mindset, you and I know that when you're in that mindset, everyone's raising the bar. It's the same. Hold on. It's the same reason that Logan Paul filmed the suicide forest, like, when all these YouTubers were trying to one up each other. And like, I do think that Taylor Frankie Paul has the. The least amount of remorse, you know, And I think she's tough enough to handle Internet hate, which means I think she's willing to raise the bar on like, her villain, beloved side. And I think she knows that she's, like, really in control and can manipulate narratives, like on the Internet.

[B]

I think that comes with time. I think, like a year out, you can. You can like, move on and learn how to manipulate the situation.

[A]

But you gotta understand, this is like, this isn't her first rodeo. The whole show was started because it came out that she was swinging.

[B]

But that's because she knows how to manipulate the Internet. But that was something that she was, like, proud of disclosing. And it wasn't a big deal to her. And it was. But this crossed the line is my point.

[A]

I think she lost sight of what the line was a long time ago. That's like my whole argument now. Does that mean that she leaked it herself? No, but, like, I mean, babe, she like, blew up the Mormon culture through the swinging scandal. Like, if there was a line, she crossed it long ago and the line moved, you know, and maybe this is the situation where she played with fire.

[B]

I think that she had a lot of women that she. That were supporting her. Cause, like, that came around her in blowing up the Mormon culture when. So then she felt momentum and she felt support. Support. Like, this is a line that she crossed that she was very alone in. Yeah, like, when she crossed that line with the faith. Like, she probably got so much hate from the Mormons, like, that were so disappointed in her. But then she also had, like, seven or eight other women come beside her and say, hey, you're right. Let's all, like, band together and kind of out this culture. And so she felt like, you know, like she was doing something good. Like, it was. Like there was purpose in it. This one is so different.

[A]

So. So let me ask you this. They invested 30. Let's. Let's call it. Let's say they invested $50 million into the season of the Bachelorette. Okay? There are some of the smartest, most shrewd, sophisticated communication strategists working at Hulu and Disney.

[B]

Can I just say really fast, though, they're not as smart as we think, because think about how bad the Bachelor has been the past, like, four seasons.

[A]

Fair.

[B]

They're not as calculated and as. As we think now. I think that they hired somebody real good that was like, get Taylor, Frankie, Paul in there. And they needed to stir it up.

[A]

Or maybe that was your former manager that did.

[B]

Yeah, sure, maybe, whatever. But they got. They made it happen, and that was, like, the best move for the show at the time, because we all were like, oh, my gosh, what's going to happen? And, yes, Maybe they invested $50 million into the show and they lost all that money, but they know that now there's so much like. Like, by canceling it now, we're also like, what's gonna. What's the next season gonna be? Or what are they gonna do now?

[A]

That's right.

[B]

So, like, I don't think that they were out. They're gonna be completely out. $50 million. But also the amount that they would have lost and that, like, they were already on the decline because of the Bachelors or the people that they've been choosing, and it just has not. Not been a good show. But the amount that they would have lost and the hate they would have gotten for supporting somebody that hurt their child, they would have lost so much more. And, you know, the whole Internet would have just, like, ridden that wave of, like, well, the Bachelor is continuing to be on the decline. Here they are supporting a. Somebody that. A child abuser, you know, and that would have been, like, the storyline, and then the Bachelor just would have been done. Because you can't come back from that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

When it involves children, you can't come back from. From it. So they. They did the right thing, I think, by pulling the season. Now if they air it ever. I'm kind of starting to believe that they never will, because, like I said, when there's kids involved, they will, like, it's just done for. But I don't think it was a complete loss on their end because whatever they. They're stirring up now, it's going to be so interesting because we're all going to be like, wow, what are they going to do next? It's like, I have. Now I have to watch it when I've never. I haven't felt the need to watch the Bachelor in probably five years.

[A]

I don't think that Disney's willing to take risks like that. I think they're going to try and, like, basically, they're either going to air it and it's going to be like. Like, it will reboot the Bachelor or they're going to bury it and they're going to try and kind of, like, wholesome wash the next Bachelorette. And I'm going to be like, I don't care. Like, I want to watch this.

[B]

I know. I don't think it'll be super wholesome. I think, though, I think that they know that they have to keep it spicy. Like, maybe they'll put Jesse. Jesse from Jesse Draper from the Bachelor, from Seeker Life. I mean, from the Secret. Like, she just got a divorce, you know, or maybe.

[A]

Maybe. Honestly, what's happening is that Jen is like, hey, I'll get divorced, too. Here's no wedding ring. Just make me the Bachelorette. And like, they're all so fame hungry, though. No, I know, that's. But that's what I'm. That's what my whole point is, is, like, you guys. You guys are literally gambling your real life for reality TV that will eat you alive and leave you with nothing.

[B]

Yeah, but we all got to learn

[A]

our lessons, and we all got to learn.

[B]

You can tell them what. You can tell them all you want, but it's like, we all just got to learn it.

[A]

It's so sad, man.

[B]

But, you know, that's what makes. If you come out on the other end, that's what makes a really strong marriage.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, if you can wither the storm.

[A]

I, like, I don't know if I'm. If I'm. I like Zach. I think he's a good guy.

[B]

Yeah. Except for when he went to Whitney.

[A]

Yeah, whatever. I mean, like, he pro. Like, she's probably super postpartum and kind of mean. And he was like, okay, I'm gonna

[B]

do it, Whitney, like, all day.

[A]

Jen. I'll go do it. I'll go meet with your arch nemesis, like, and I'll tell her, you know? And, like, it probably seemed like such a good idea. And I. Babe, I'm gonna be honest. Like, not third, fourth baby, second, first baby. You could have totally convinced me to do it, and I would have done that.

[B]

No, I know. For sure.

[A]

For sure. But, like, now I'm like, hey, no, you're crazy right now. If in eight months you want me to do this, like, it's a.

[B]

It's enablement.

[A]

Yeah. And so.

[B]

But he was trying to help.

[A]

He was trying to help, and he probably loves her, and he's like, hey, like, happy wife, happy life. Like, if I need to go talk to Whitney, I'll do it, you know? And so it's like, I think he's a good guy. Trying to figure out how to, like, balance what she wants to be happy, which is Dancing with the Stars. And, you know, all of this drama with, like, probably having genuine, real values of, like, hey, listen, like, we also have three kids. Like, we gotta find a way to mix all this.

[B]

Totally. I love that we're recapping Slo Mo, like, so far after.

[A]

No, but it's. It's. It's not recapping Slow Mo. It's recapping a case study for the entire industry. You can take what's going on with the Slow Mo girls and. And apply that to TikTok creators and Instagram creators and all these people, because they're all striving for different levels of the same thing, which is recognition, fame, followers, the high, the dopamine rush. It's all the same. They're just doing it on a very public scale in the most complicated way, which is Married with Kids.

[B]

But the best part is it'll all come back around, like, where I'm. Where I'm at, and you'll just move out to Tennessee and get a horse.

[A]

Honestly. Yes. And that's why this podcast. So interesting.

[B]

Life.

[A]

This podcast is so interesting because you've gone. You and I have gone through the entire circle.

[B]

Well, we never did the reality show, but we almost did.

[A]

Dude. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Have we ever talked about this on the show? Are we cool to talk about it now?

[B]

The reality show? Yeah, I think we already have, but.

[A]

Oh, that was hard. But I know, I know, I know. We're. We're. We're remaining open to it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I don't want you to feel shut down.

[B]

Yeah. I have a call with Netflix. Netflix.

[A]

I saw that. And I'm. But I'm like, okay, like, let's not

[B]

talk about it because that circle isn't completely closed yet. Well, thank you guys for listening. Make sure you check us out on Tick Tock and Instagram at D Influence Podcast. We love you guys and we'll talk to you soon. Bye.

[A]

Love you.

[B]

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