Someone is Back on the Hamster Wheel..

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Someone is Back on the Hamster Wheel.." De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan
Release Date: July 3, 2025

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1. Celebrating Milestones and Personal Consistency

00:00 – 04:00

In the episode opener, hosts Dani and Jordan Austin celebrate reaching their 106th episode milestone. Dani humorously contrasts her perceived inconsistency in life with Jordan's steadfastness. Jordan highlights Dani's relentless consistency in social media engagement, noting, “you have posted on the Internet... maybe like five days off of posting stories?” (01:37). Dani shares her newfound passion for tennis, expressing excitement about potentially joining a tennis team despite the elitist barriers, saying, “Everything is actually great... I’m telling you, it's a slippery slope” (02:35). This segment underscores the couple's dedication and the balance they maintain between their personal lives and their influencer careers.

2. Embracing a Well-Rounded Life

04:00 – 07:15

Dani discusses the profound impact of becoming well-rounded, mentioning increased joy and reduced anxiety as key benefits. Jordan observes a rekindled passion in Dani, noting, “you have enough joy and freedom and blank space to come up with new things” (04:22). They advocate for a balanced life encompassing wellness, religion, social interactions, and work, emphasizing the importance of integrating various aspects to achieve true happiness.

3. Navigating Mental Health and Faith

06:00 – 32:16

A significant portion of the episode delves into mental health struggles and the role of faith in overcoming them. Dani confides about a recent mental breakdown and shares a heartfelt message she felt was divinely inspired: “What you don't see and what he has in store for you is so much bigger” (07:01). Jordan echoes these sentiments, discussing her own challenges with feeling responsible and needing to let go, stating, “I have to carry up in the air to just keep everyone happy” (10:26). They explore the dichotomy between self-sufficiency and faith, debating how trusting in a higher power can lead to peace and joy despite external pressures. Notable quotes include Dani's reflection on God’s blessings and Jordan’s insights into maintaining faith amidst challenges.

4. Balancing Business Responsibilities with Personal Well-Being

32:16 – 38:16

The conversation shifts to the pressures of running a business, specifically their venture Divi. Jordan discusses the stress of meeting ambitious financial goals and the fear of failure, illustrating the mental toll it takes: “The bar keeps raising... I'm a failure” (28:06). They debate the concept of control versus surrendering outcomes to faith, with Dani suggesting, “If you don't show up to the meeting, then this doesn't get done right” (32:19). The hosts emphasize the importance of perspective, advocating for a heart state focused on stewardship rather than rigid expectations.

5. Pop Culture and Current Events Discussion

38:16 – 81:15

The latter half of the episode is a lively discussion on various pop culture topics and current events:

• Liver King's Downfall: They analyze the recent arrest of Liver King, attributing his erratic behavior to possible steroid use and the pressures of fame. Jordan theorizes, “He roided up pretty hardcore at the height of his fame” (56:23), while Danny adds, “I feel like this is the best episode I've ever listened to” (70:19).

• Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez's Wedding: The couple critiques the opulent wedding plans, highlighting societal issues with billionaire lifestyles. They discuss the controversy surrounding the lavish event in Venice, mocked as “Canva core with cheesy doves and clip art gondolas” (62:41).

• Sabrina Carpenter's Concert Policies: Dani expresses her disapproval of Sabrina Carpenter's potential ban on phones at concerts, arguing it contradicts her image as a positive role model: “I just feel like that is not somebody I would want Stella to be listening to or watching” (75:36).

• Jeff Bezos' Wealth: A humorous take on Bezos’ $500 million yacht reinforces their critical view of extreme wealth display.

6. Product Endorsements and Advertisements

Throughout the Episode

Interspersed within the discussions are advertisements and endorsements for various products:

• Ritual Prenatal Vitamins: Dani passionately endorses Ritual for its tailored nutrient support during pregnancy, highlighting key ingredients like methylated folate and omega-3 DHA (16:00 – 18:36).

• Huggies Little Snugglers: Jordan promotes Huggies for their superior leak protection, sharing a personal anecdote about managing diaper blowouts (18:36 – 20:20).

• Magnetic Me: Danny recommends Magnetic Me for easy dressing solutions for children, emphasizing the product’s safety and design (20:20 – 21:59).

• Shopify Sponsorship: They discuss their experience with Shopify in building their business Divi, praising its flexibility and ease of use, culminating in a strong endorsement (39:18 – 42:20).

7. Light-Hearted Banter and Closing Remarks

81:15 – End

The episode concludes with playful banter about sports games, celebrity behavior, and humorous mispronunciations. Despite diverging into tangents, they maintain their engaging and candid conversational style, leaving listeners with a mix of entertainment and reflection.

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Notable Quotes

• Dani Austin:
  “What you don't see and what he has in store for you is so much bigger... I just want you to have everything that your heart desires because I love you.” (07:01)

• Jordan Austin:
  “Am I in control or am I not in control? Right.” (33:51)

• Dani Austin:
  “Sometimes following Jesus and pursuing a life that Jesus wants you, like how he wants you to live. Sometimes it's actually one of the hardest things to do.” (24:16)

• Jordan Austin:
  “I have to carry up in the air to just keep everyone happy.” (10:26)

• Dani Austin:
  “Yes, that's a good take... it's not like a punishment from God.” (22:36)

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Conclusion

In this episode, Dani and Jordan Austin provide an authentic and multifaceted look into their lives as influencers, entrepreneurs, and individuals navigating personal growth and faith. They candidly discuss the challenges of maintaining consistency, balancing business pressures with personal well-being, and the impact of faith on their mental health. Interwoven with light-hearted pop culture commentary and sincere reflections, the episode offers listeners a comprehensive and engaging exploration of what it means to "de-influence" in today's complex world.

For those interested in the intersection of personal development, faith, and entrepreneurship, this episode delivers valuable insights complemented by the hosts' relatable experiences and heartfelt conversations.

Transcript

[Danny Austin]

Foreign. The following podcast is a Dear media production. Hello and welcome back to your favorite podcast, De Influenced.

[Jordan Austin]

What episode is this?

[Danny Austin]

One million three.

[Jordan Austin]

105.

[Danny Austin]

106.

[Jordan Austin]

106.

[Danny Austin]

We have filmed 106 episodes today together. That is a. 106 miraculous hours. 106 therapy sessions. 106 hours of falling more in love.

[Jordan Austin]

You know the one thing that people have to say about us, we're consistent. We won't give up.

[Danny Austin]

Is that what people say?

[Jordan Austin]

That's what I like.

[Danny Austin]

Because I feel like I'm so inconsistent in every way in life.

[Jordan Austin]

The funniest thing about you though, is you are. You are inconsistent and consistent at the same time.

[Danny Austin]

See, I told y' all, this is a therapy session. Every time.

[Jordan Austin]

You are inconsistent in. You want every day to look different. So you have no consistency to your day to day, but you are consistent with your routine responsibilities. Meaning you have posted on the Internet. Let me tell you, you have posted on the Internet. This is like, okay, 4466 posts and I don't even know how many stories. But like, I mean, of. Of the past five years, you have probably taken. Well, minus the whole two month hiatus, but before that, before that, I mean, maybe what, like five days off of posting stories?

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, that's. That's a problem.

[Jordan Austin]

You're kind of an interesting. Like, like you really can't be put into a box, babe.

[Danny Austin]

Thank you. That's what I think too.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, that's insane.

[Danny Austin]

You know, something I have been consistent at is playing tennis. And I am just loving it. I'm becoming obsessed. And I haven't been obsessed with something besides posting on the Internet in a long time. It's been a long time since I've had a hobby that just like really gets me going. Like, you know, so much so that I bought like court shoes. Like, I actually bought shoes that are for tennis.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, did you buy them at the Wilson store?

[Danny Austin]

No, I bought them at Nordstrom just because they were the only pair they had available in my size. But I don't know if it was the shoes or if the wind was just blowing the right way. I played so good this morning. I. I was like, I. I might. I should probably join a team. Yeah, Like, I was really like, I.

[Jordan Austin]

Do you join teams?

[Danny Austin]

Doing myself a disservice. Yeah, you can. But here's the thing. I'm not a part of any club, so nobody would have me. You have to join a club. And I'm telling you, like, how are we gonna get into these country Clubs when they all deny me.

[Jordan Austin]

Such a shame. Such an elitist sport.

[Danny Austin]

I know. I'm telling you, it's like you can't even pay to play because you have to be, like, a member. You have to, like, know somebody. And I just wasn't raised in that know somebody plate, like, environment.

[Jordan Austin]

We'll figure it out. Don't you.

[Danny Austin]

So if anybody knows somebody and they want to help me get into any club, I really don't care. I just want to play tennis, you know, that's all. And I would like to take some private lessons here and there. You know, I took a private lesson yesterday with Janelle and Wesley, which is so funny, y' all, that I'm like, I'm friends with this girl that I was best friends with, like, kindergarten through third grade. She was like my best friend. And then I hadn't seen her for 25 years, and now we're, like, hanging out again. It's so funny.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. You. How are you feeling in your well rounded era? Because you're very well rounded right now.

[Danny Austin]

You're social. Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

You have hobbies, so many friends right now. You're still working.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

You're a wife, you're a mother, you're a queen.

[Danny Austin]

I'm like, what was I doing before? I highly recommend it for everyone. Just like, just like, make a little wellness. We're wheel. And then, like, you know, do religion, social life work, and then just like, put all the things that you want to do in each one of them and then just like, do. Do them all. Like, just don't.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. What are the greatest lessons you've learned from becoming well rounded?

[Danny Austin]

I feel like I've experienced true joy.

[Jordan Austin]

Really? Do you experience joy, like, every day? Yeah. No, I feel that from you for sure.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. And I don't have as much anxiety.

[Jordan Austin]

And you know, what I'm sensing from you more is like, you're. You're like your flame is back, your passion. Like, you're coming. You're coming to me with ideas.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

Again, like, you have enough joy and freedom and blank space to come up with new things.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Just enough. It's good to be bored sometimes.

[Jordan Austin]

But it's hard for you to understand this, like, the ideas, because I would say you know yourself, and then I feel like I know you pretty well. Like, probably know the best. Yeah, I think I know you the best. But anyway, the. As someone who knows you the best, there's a difference in the way that you come up with new ideas. It's like you're coming up with Them from a place of joy versus I have to do this to perform.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, like, like my, My healthy Taco Bell idea the other day. Oh, so genius.

[Jordan Austin]

Yes. Like, you're. She wants to develop a healthy Taco Bell, which is a great idea.

[Danny Austin]

Which you. You would think. Oh, Chipotle already did it. No, like, I'm talking like a Taco Bell drive through that. You can still get that crunchy gordita crunch. And you can get. Still get the burrito and you can sit. Chipotle is like, great, but it's not like I'm. I'm talking like we still include a little bit of grease, you know, just like, we just know that the. The meat came from a cow, not like a cat or a dog.

[Jordan Austin]

But it's like avocado oil.

[Danny Austin]

Totally. Yeah, we could do that.

[Jordan Austin]

Not. Not seed oil.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Or maybe we. Hey, maybe we cook with beef tallow. My new taco. My health.

[Jordan Austin]

Steak and shake. Doing it.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, Steak and shakes. Do it. They only cook a couple things.

[Jordan Austin]

You know who you should partner with in this?

[Danny Austin]

Let me think, let me think.

[Jordan Austin]

Alex Clark.

[Danny Austin]

Yes. Yes, Yes. I feel like she'd be a buzzkill, though, because I feel like she would be, like, so anal about everything. And, like, I'm okay with, like, few things slide, like, you know, I'm not here to save the world. It's just like, when I'm in a rush, like, I just don't want to be like, poisoning myself totally. But like, I also understand that, like, some, you know, it's not gonna be like, perfect. You know, it's still probably gonna be a little high sodium. You know what I mean?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. Well, I'm. I'm so glad that. That you are so well rounded. I've had the worst week.

[Danny Austin]

I know. I feel for you.

[Jordan Austin]

You did feel.

[Danny Austin]

I told them before.

[Jordan Austin]

Had the worst week.

[Danny Austin]

I told our producer. I was like. We were talking about, like, how I, you know, had a mental breakdown. I was like, jordan's next.

[Jordan Austin]

I know. I. I was giving vibes of a mental breakdown this week. And it was just like, you know, you have those weeks where it's like it. When it rains, it pours.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

It's like every bad thing that could have happened this week happened. Just everything broke.

[Danny Austin]

In work. In work.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

Because everything in life is actually great.

[Jordan Austin]

Everything.

[Danny Austin]

I actually felt like God gave me a word to tell you.

[Jordan Austin]

Tell me.

[Danny Austin]

I was going to tell you earlier, but then I got embarrassed.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, no, no, I've been. I've been asking him. So tell me.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, okay.

[Jordan Austin]

What did he tell you?

[Danny Austin]

I was driving home and I was like, oh, this is a word that I should tell Jordan. And then I got home and I just chickened out. I was like, I don't want to be that girl.

[Jordan Austin]

Wait, I know. I got nervous, so. That's so. That's so selfish. It's so selfish.

[Danny Austin]

I know, I know. But I just. It felt like it wasn't the right time.

[Jordan Austin]

Okay.

[Danny Austin]

Not that this is the best time either.

[Jordan Austin]

You'd be shocked at how much comes out on this podcast. What we really.

[Danny Austin]

What.

[Jordan Austin]

What's the best thing about this podcast is, like, we have no idea what we're going to talk about. And so we just have to really dig deep on all the things that we're not talking about.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

To talk about on this podcast.

[Danny Austin]

All the things that we were like.

[Jordan Austin]

Every issue, every conflict in our marriage, it just comes up here because we're like, oh, what else are we going to talk about?

[Danny Austin]

Yes. Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

So what's the word?

[Danny Austin]

Okay. So I was driving home and I was, like, thinking about you, and I even prayed. I was like, oh, God, if I do tell him, will you just make sure that it's, like, actually from you and not from myself? So sweet. I think we're. We might be in the clear, but maybe not. So we just take. Take parts of it that maybe, you know, resonate with, and then everything else here just throw out the window. But I think what God wanted me to tell you is that what you. What you don't see and what he has in store for you is so much bigger. Like, you can't even fathom, like, the joy and peace that you're going to feel one day. And I don't even know if that's like, this earthly. This earthly realm or even in heaven. And he was just like, I just want you, like, everything that. That you. You need in order to, like, have joy. Like, I have blessed you with everything. You don't need anything else. And he was just like, I want you to have so much fun with everything you're doing. I don't want you to take it too serious because. And honestly, I might not give you more because I'm scared that it might pushed you away from me. And, like, I love you too much, but, like, I want to give you those things. Like, I want you to have everything that your heart desires because I love you, but. But I just want you to, like, not. Not take it so serious because the level of joy and, like, what is to come, like, you're gonna Laugh one day, and then you're gonna be like, oh, why did I carry so much weight on my shoulders? And he just wants you to know that he's involved in every single, like, little decision, yes or no. And sometimes the no's are coming from a place of, like, protection or whatever. And it's not. It's not. It's not a no. Because you're not good enough, man.

[Jordan Austin]

I received that. That's. Babe, that wasn't a word. That was. Words plural. That was. I would have been so mad at you if you didn't share that. I received that.

[Danny Austin]

I know. I was going to tell you at.

[Jordan Austin]

Some point, but can I tell you a funny story? Is the reason I know it's from God. This is a crazy story. So I see that that new therapist. Yeah. So I was talking to this therapist, and a lot of, like, what we're working on right now is this idea that, like, I have to do it all and I have to carry the weight of the world on my shoulders. And a lot of that goes, like, to childhood or being the firstborn or whatever and feeling responsible for everything. But this is so random. We were talking about this, and I said, you know, I saw this meme on the Internet, and it wasn't really a meme. It was, like a Christian meme, but it was this picture of, like, this kid holding a teddy bear behind his back and saying, oh, I don't want to give it up. And then it was, like, a picture of, like, Jesus being there. And then he had a much bigger teddy bear, and he said, will you just trust me? I have something better.

[Danny Austin]

I feel like I've seen that.

[Jordan Austin]

You've seen that?

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

So anyway, this is crazy. I was like, yeah, I feel like that is me right now, because I'm so scared to just, like, let go of all these things. I feel like I have to control or hold up in the air to just keep everyone happy. Right. Whether that be, like, a divvy or our family. And there's just, like, all this responsibility that I feel like I have to carry. And I was like, I feel like God's asking me to, like, let it go and surrender it. But it. I don't know how practically to do that, you know, because if I don't show up, then I feel like all these things don't happen. And I said. I talked to her about the meme, and she froze. And she was like, jordan, you are going to freak out. She was like, I literally saved this meme on my phone and I was going to show you this before and it was just so clearly like a God divine thing that God was like.

[Danny Austin]

Hey, that's literally what I just told you.

[Jordan Austin]

And that's literally what you just told me. And that happened this week on Monday. Yeah, So I received that. I am so bought into it. And I. I agree. And I think most of the time, because I feel like I've had a general light spirit this year. Yeah, I'm funny, you know, I make jokes. It's like really bad. Really bad things happen and I'm like, ah, we'll figure it out, guys. But like, this week I was just so burdened.

[Danny Austin]

I know, I know. It's all like, perspective though, because it's so true. Like, I felt like what God was trying to say is like, I don't know what you're searching for and like, I don't know what you're reaching for, but you already have it all. Like, you already have everything that you would ever need to feel close to me, to feel true joy. Like anything else. Like, I. I just want you to figure out how to use it to be like, to like, basically worship me. But, like, I feel like his big thing was like, I almost saw him like, waving his arms at you, being like, dude, don't miss this. Like, don't miss it. Like, you already miss what?

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, just like, like you already have it.

[Danny Austin]

Like you already. And like, don't waste it because you already have like, literally everything you need. And like, and I'm giving you so many blessings. But basically it was kind of like, but hey, like, if we keep going down this path, like, I'm scared. Like, I'm scared that I'm going to lose you a little bit. And I don't think that you were necessarily like, headed down that path, but it is a slippery slope once you get into this, like, work, not workaholism. I don't think you were like a workaholic. I think.

[Jordan Austin]

I think you were like, working before.

[Danny Austin]

Or like this week.

[Jordan Austin]

This week. No, for sure.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Like working till like 9pm on your laptop.

[Jordan Austin]

It's because, like, yeah, the problem. I just become obsessed with problems. But the craziest thing is. This is why I was asking for your advice.

[Danny Austin]

I have one more thing before I forget.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, yeah, sorry.

[Danny Austin]

She's like.

[Jordan Austin]

She's like, dory.

[Danny Austin]

Sorry. I really am. The one other thing that I was going to tell you is that I unders. Or he understands that like with. With building a business and having these, this PE firm and all this pressure and everything you're doing with the city council and everything, everything is always very like, linear when you're building on top of it. Like, they're like, for example, if you don't show up to the meeting, then this doesn't get done right. Or if you don't perform at this scale or you don't fill up these numbers, then one day when a company tries to buy you, invest in you, they're going to ask like, what happened here? And there's all these, like, you, you built this pressure because if you don't do it, it doesn't get done. But I felt like what God was also saying is you're neglecting the fact that like, like what you're dealing with, with me is like, supernatural. Like, like he's doesn't. It's not logical, it's not numbers, it's not whatever. And like, when he's in, when he's involved, like miracles happen. Things that don't make sense happen.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. The craziest thing is that the. My perspective, and this is what I also said, like in, in the, the session was like, God's still provisional to me and to my family. Like, he still is like, speaking to me and giving me direction. And, you know, like, we had another crazy story where I had had this like, sort of vision of something for Danny. And it was like an idea for Danny, but, like, I didn't really. We've come so far in our marriage that like, I didn't want to force that. And she's been so well rounded and healthy that I didn't want to come across as like, hey, I'm pushing this idea on you. And I was like, I. I feel what looks like obedience right now is like, I'm not going to share what I feel. Like I've been, you know, told by God is like a vision for Danny and an idea for Danny because, like, I don't want to, to affect where she's at. So it's crazy. She comes to me at breakfast and she's like, babe, I have this idea. And I'm not gonna say what the idea is.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Because it's.

[Jordan Austin]

Because it's totally gonna be billion dollar ideas.

[Danny Austin]

But, like, it's a healthy time.

[Jordan Austin]

Like, she had, she had come to me and she was like, babe, I have this idea. And I could tell you were a little bit sheepish in telling me too, because it was kind of like around, like a touchy subject. And like, you. It would kind of require you to kind of get back into work more and like, we've been so healthy. And you told me the idea, and it was the exact idea and vision that I felt called to for her. Like, to the T. And it was so funny because it was the first time that I was like.

[Danny Austin]

And.

[Jordan Austin]

And to be clear, when God told me the vision, he didn't tell me what you were going to do in the vision. He told me what he wanted me to do to support your vision. Right. So then the vision comes from Danny, and then I'm like, oh, I know exactly how I'm supposed to support you in this. Like, here's the phone call that I'm going to make. And so I really do feel like God is very thick and present. What I was saying is that in this therapy session, I realized, and this is what I said, is that God's going to be provisional and he's going to keep speaking to me and he's going to still be showing me grace along the way. The only person who's suffering along the way is me. And it's like, either I'm going to have a perspective of doubt that, like, when everything breaks down, like, God's. God's got it. Like, you know. Yeah, sorry. Doubt is in the. Like, oh, it's on me. I have to fix it. Self sufficiency, control. Which is what I did this week, to be clear. Like, I was, like, working until midnight. I'd wake up.

[Danny Austin]

It was giving. It was giving Danny.

[Jordan Austin]

He was giving old Danny vibes.

[Danny Austin]

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[Jordan Austin]

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[Danny Austin]

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[Jordan Austin]

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[Danny Austin]

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[Jordan Austin]

So either the perspective of doubt and self sufficiency and control. So it's all on my shoulders, you know, I have to do it. Or the perspective of faith, of being like, hey, this feels really unstable right now, but like, God would not have led me here just to let me fail and let this company fail. Or maybe he would, but, like, I don't have to be everything and do everything. And the perspective of faith is like, so much more peaceful. We were talking to this, this, this friend that we have and he had met two different quarterbacks, like hall of Fame quarterbacks Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers. And he was talking about how.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Which friend was. Don't tell me. I don't want to.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, Drew. Drew Brees was someone who is a believer, a monumental success. But he was like, it's crazy. The difference between an Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees in terms of their overall happiness, their overall temperament, and the overall way that they carry themselves. And he was like, my perspective as a believer is that Drew Brees knows that all of this is just simply like temporary. It is not eternal. Whereas like Aaron, Aaron Rodgers was someone who's very clearly searching. And all this is in his documentary, this is Not Private. He's doing ayahuasca. He's trying to figure out like, what is life. He's searching. And there's nothing wrong with that. But he was like, the difference in perspective is, is absolutely different. So what's crazy about what you just told me is it's, it's not like a punishment from God. It's almost like God being like, hey, like, I want you to have fun. I want you to do what I made you good at. But like your perspective needs to shift for your own well being.

[Danny Austin]

But I do believe that sometimes God does punish us. And I do think like, yeah, thank God, because that's sometimes what, that's how we learned as children. And I do think sometimes like God is, is challenges us and he says no. And I think that's my biggest. Sometimes I feel like people, the prosperity gospel is something that just really, really just irks me. My gears. I just, it's really discouraging for me because it's so much of when I'm speaking to you about what God has for you in the future, I don't even really know if that's like this worldly future. I don't know if that's even here on, on earth.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, and I don't want anything more though. That's the, that's the thing.

[Danny Austin]

Sorry, let me. Because you know, I'm already dory. I'm like, where am I? I forgot what I was going. Wallaby land, 24th Sydney. And, and that's one thing that I, I, I want our audience to really understand is sometimes following Jesus and sometimes pursuing a life that Jesus wants you, like how he wants you to live. Sometimes it's actually one of the hardest things to do. And sometimes the most painful things come from it, like maybe loneliness or Maybe, you know, not being involved in the crowd and. And separating yourself and having like, seasons of loneliness and dryness and. And sometimes, like, you know, it's hard. It can be really hard. And I don't know when I felt like God was giving me this word, I almost felt like it all kind of ties together because of that girl that we're gonna go to the basketball game tonight with. Did I say that? Tonight with. Anyway, she had that near death experience that we were talking about. And the more I've been learning about people that have had near death experiences, they are like moms of small children or they are like fathers of, you know, their kids are about to go to college or they have grandchildren and they go and they experience this spiritual realm and they are like, it is so good and it is so amazing. I don't even want to come back to earth. Even though they have all these loved ones that they adore and they would never do anything to leave. And sometimes I feel like all these promises and all these like. And I. I do not know because I am not God. But sometimes I feel like it is like, of what is to come when heaven does come to earth. Because in Revelations it talks about how heaven will come to earth. And sometimes I feel like that's where God is telling us to trust him, that it's like this life that we have on earth is so short and it's such a blessing, it's not going to be easy. You're going to have thorns in your sides and it all is perspective. Because I want you to see how much I want to bless you with in this life. But it's not all going to be roses. But trust me, like what I have for you, when heaven comes to earth, it is going to be like, insane. And you're going to be so happy that you had those seasons of dryness, that I disciplined you, that I said no, that I didn't let you sell your company for a bajillion dollars. You're going to thank God that I didn't let you. Because I want you to be here when heaven comes to earth with me. And I don't want to lose you. And so you're going to thank me that I said no, that I let you be lonely, I didn't give you what you wanted. And that's where I think a lot of people see that as. Maybe you see it as punishment, you see it as negativity, but it's like God pruning us and God caring for us in these, like, miraculous Ways. And it's that perspective. We don't see it. Then it's like, that's where you miss it. And.

[Jordan Austin]

No, for sure.

[Danny Austin]

And so. So, yeah. Prosperity Gospel Bad.

[Jordan Austin]

The funniest thing about you and I is that I don't, like, even these things that are breaking at work. It's not that I'm like, scared of the money loss. It's like. It's like. And when you were stuck in your hamster wheel, too, it wasn't about money for us. It's like performance. It's like, I don't. I just, like, don't want to fail, you know, it's like, totally.

[Danny Austin]

But, like. Okay, so let's talk about this. What are you scared at failing at.

[Jordan Austin]

Like, specifically?

[Danny Austin]

Just give me one example.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, I. I think that I'm. I'm. There's expectations and expectations I've set for myself, whether it's financially for Divi, or, you know, other projects that I'm working on. There's, like, these expectations that I set for myself. And so it's an arbitrary goal. That failure is arbitrary because, like, I'm the one who set the bar. Does that make sense?

[Danny Austin]

So, like, let's just say.

[Jordan Austin]

But the bar keeps raising.

[Danny Austin]

Let's just say you have a goal of a revenue number that you want to hit this year.

[Jordan Austin]

A hundred million.

[Danny Austin]

A hundred million. Okay. And like, in divvy.

[Jordan Austin]

Sorry, Divi.

[Danny Austin]

And then. So what happens if you don't hit that number? Who's going to, like, who's going to look down at you? Who's going to think of you as a failure?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, probably no one.

[Danny Austin]

No, I mean, truly, like, no. We might, like, our PE Firm might be, like, be a re. Real. Like, who's going to be like, wow, that's, you know, that's a bummer. Jordan didn't hit it. Like, I thought I had confidence in him. He didn't do it.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. I would say when you're private equity backed, I think that because they have bosses, too. So their whole fund is based on a model of company A, B, C, D, E, doing xyz, you know, and so I think that that's kind of the pressure cooker that things get put under is it's like, you know, there's expectations set at the beginning of a year, year shifts, variable shift, you know, and so then, like, you want to hit these numbers, but, you know, the mix changes within channels. And so it's like, yeah, it's just like a. But again, no one's going to fail. Right? Like, okay, let's say you do.

[Danny Austin]

But you might.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, yeah, but yeah, you might.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, you might.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

And like. And then what are you going to do? Like, you might not even get close to 100 million.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, then it's like, then I failed.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. And then what?

[Jordan Austin]

Well, then I'm a failure.

[Danny Austin]

You are? For real? You think that.

[Jordan Austin]

I would be a failure? So I'm a one on the Enneagram. So it's, that's where it gets really tricky is like, I feel like failure becomes almost like a morality thing for me, you know, because it's like, I gave you my word that I would do this. And like, right and wrong is.

[Danny Austin]

So you gave them your word that you were going to hit 100 million?

[Jordan Austin]

Well, I, I, I bought into the expectation.

[Danny Austin]

Okay.

[Jordan Austin]

Yes. And so, so, yeah, it becomes like a, like, I failed. And it's not just like, oh, I failed, I messed up. Let's get back up and do it again. It's like a, like, it's like a good and bad thing. Does that make sense? It's like a. I don't get the.

[Danny Austin]

Why is it good?

[Jordan Austin]

It's just hard because, like, if you're not an Enneagram one, I feel like you don't understand, but.

[Danny Austin]

No, I totally understand.

[Jordan Austin]

The world is so, like, black and white. It's like, it's, it's black or white or good or bad, you know? And so, like, it's like success.

[Danny Austin]

That's how I got myself in this. That horrible place was I had these crazy expectations, like numbers, certain amount of brand deals, whatever I wanted to do monthly that nobody else really cared about. And I'm like, no, but everything will crash if I don't. And then I'm a failure, literally. And it, like, I'm like you. It didn't really matter about the numbers or whatever, but I was like, my biggest fear in life is being a loser.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

Was being a loser.

[Jordan Austin]

I'm not scared. Well, I guess failure, loser, synonymous terms. Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Like, I just don't want to be a loser. I want to be great.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, no, that's. And, and, and I don't really think I want it for other people because I don't really think I care what other people think. Like, I want it for myself, you know, And I want to be able to, you know, I don't know. I'm really stuck in this.

[Danny Austin]

Like, what do you think that God would say about that?

[Jordan Austin]

That I'm good just like, without all of these, like, it's not about success or Failure.

[Danny Austin]

No, but, like, it's so hard.

[Jordan Austin]

It's so hard. It's. And I think it's, like, so hard when you are the leader responsible for results, too. Like, that's what's the hardest is like, how do you. How do you. This is what I'm learning. And this is like, literally what I talked about with with K is like, how do you. How do you hold the. Like, literally be the one responsible for, like, a P and L, but operate that with surrender? And, I mean, that's what faith.

[Danny Austin]

That's what I struggled with, too. I was responsible for my DNL and.

[Jordan Austin]

Your team and everything.

[Danny Austin]

Responsible for my team. But I'm also like a mother and all these things. And, like, how do I surrender it when it's like, no, I literally just need to hit this number so I can pay my team? Like, it's like, it's not as easy as you guys are all making it sound.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, it's so funny because from the outside looking in, just like you're looking from the outside looking, you're like, it's really not that. It wasn't that complicated because I'm like, danny, like, everything is fine. But you couldn't get out of the.

[Danny Austin]

Mental framework of the expectations you set for yourself.

[Jordan Austin]

Correct. And so that is what I, this week in particular, feel personally trapped in. And it's only because, like, you know, it's only like, three things broke at once. Right. And so that was the. The. You. You told me on Wednesday night, you were like, hey, I feel like you're just in this, like, unhealthy cycle and you need to leave town and go to Colorado next week and just kind of reset. And I was like, I totally agree. But, yeah, that's. That's the danger of this, like, performance framework that I got stuck in.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

That's why I was like, hey, how'd you get out of this thing again? I mean, I know I was there the whole time, but tell me. Yeah, you were like, take naps.

[Danny Austin]

Every day, play tennis. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is a vicious cycle, but it's like. It's just. Yeah. A big part of it, I really think, is also just perspective.

[Jordan Austin]

It's. No, I think it's. I think 97% of it is perspective. Like, and it's like, it's the perspective of, hey, am. I think it's boiled down to am I in control or am I not in control? Right.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

And sometimes I get into a really unhealthy state where I believe that I am in Control. And I. What I've been telling myself this week is like, I am in control of the discipline that I put in within a reasonable timeframe of 9 to 5. Right. If I go past 9 to 5, I'm kind of typically believing that I'm in control of more than that. And so I've been telling myself, like, I'm in control of, like, showing up and giving it my best, but God is in control of the results.

[Danny Austin]

I wonder if there so something that I've been doing, and this is. I'm no therapist, and I actually don't even know if this is healthy.

[Jordan Austin]

You're getting close.

[Danny Austin]

But I'm like, I wonder what it would do if you kind of already envisioned and accepted the fact that you were a failure, even if you hadn't failed. Because sometimes I feel like that's how I've been treating each month when it comes to my numbers. I'm like, I'm probably not gonna hit them. I probably won't. It's okay. Who cares? I don't really need to.

[Jordan Austin]

I know. And you. You.

[Danny Austin]

And then I like.

[Jordan Austin]

And you get, like, three or four awards. It's like, Danny Austin, Entrepreneur of the Year. And I'm like, that's been the biggest conductor of this year is I'm like, Jenny, she's taking naps every day. What are you talking.

[Danny Austin]

And then Jenny's like, yes, you got this other, like, Maybelline brand deal. And I'm like, what? I haven't worked with Maybelline in, like, years. And it's like, triple the rate that I usually get. Like. And then she's like, yeah, and then we're gonna do this brand deal and this. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, it's like, I'm. I'm kind of making the same amount, but only working, like, three days a week. And I don't know, maybe that's a blessing from God. Maybe it's just like, I just am working smarter. Not. I don't really know, but I do feel like I kind of ex. Like, I had accepted the fact that I wasn't going to make the Forbes list, because that was always, like, a big thing for me. I was like, I don't want to, like, give up control because I want to make the Forbes list again. And so then I was like, so I need to hit these numbers, and I need to do this, and I do that. And then I got to this point where I was like, you know, I'm probably not going to make it. I'm probably not good. And I don't know, I feel like that's maybe bad advice because, like, I feel like most people that, like, achieve and do great things, like have this, like, they, they. They envision it and they accomplish all their goals and dreams. But I wonder if in this stage of life, it's. If it's just like, hey, I'm gonna accept the fact that I'm probably. I'm not gonna hit those numbers. So right now I'm just gonna do the best that I can.

[Jordan Austin]

There was. Chrissy, you might be able to help me out with this, but we haven't dropped this episode yet. But we interviewed Tim Dunn, who's the guy who sold his company for $12 billion. And the one thing I do feel like is pretty consistent with wildly successful people who are believers is there's this kind of flow through that sort of happens. So, like, I feel like our ego and our human nature in our sin state wants to hold on to success and be like, I did this right. And, you know, with Tim, one of the biggest things, as he said, was when. When we exited for $12 billion, I felt. I felt burdened by the responsibility of it because he was so tuned in with the Lord that, like, this was not his. It was more, hey, God, I'm here to accept whatever much or little you give to me. And whatever much or little you give to me is not mine. It is mine to steward. And so I don't know if it's about waking up. Is that. Did I nail it?

[Danny Austin]

Yes.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, that's kind of what he said. And people should listen to episode. But, you know, I don't know if it's about waking up being like, I'm a failure per se, because that's really negative. But what. I'm sorry, what I'm trying to get cheap therapist. But. But what I think that I'm. I'm being asked to do is to accept whatever good or bad success or failure is like of the Lord and from the Lord and not on me, so that I can steward whatever is given freely. Like, I'm trying to remove myself from all of the results. Does that make sense? Yeah, I mean, I think that's what.

[Danny Austin]

The freedom kind of what I'm saying is by removing myself from saying I have to get this number, I probably. I probably am not going to hit it. And if I like, that doesn't mean I'm not true crying still. Like, I. But I'm just prioritizing what needs to be prioritized.

[Jordan Austin]

It's A heart state. I don't know how to explain it. It's like a state of the heart. And after one week of being in the unhealthy state of the heart, I need to reset.

[Danny Austin]

So, as you guys know, we just won UI Entrepreneur of the Year for Divi and we were so excited. We kind of want to take you back to the beginning and let you know a little bit about the behind the scenes of kind of how we all started this. I remember it was crazy. We launched with one SKU and we launched out of my unborn son's nursery. It was Stratton. I was pregnant at the time. And so when we got this opportunity, Shopify reached out to us to work with us this year. And it was like literally a no brainer because Divi has always been on Shopify. We have been tried and true on that platform literally from day one. I also remember the first day. The best part about using Shopify is like, we could manage it from anywhere, anywhere. And I remember the one of the first days we ever had, like a seven figure day. We were in Mexico, which was really cool. But anyway, do you want to talk about why you chose Shopify? Because I remember when we were like, okay, let's launch a product. I really had no idea where it began. And you had more of a. A background in like, startups and so do you want to speak to, like, why we liked Shopify?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. I mean, I feel like when we launched Divi, we had no idea what it was going to be. Right. And so we were operating out of our unborn son's nursery. I'm not a developer or a coder, so I needed something that was good, reliable and straightforward. So I literally, you know, went onto shopify.com chose a theme and hired one person over customer support and we launched Divi.

[Danny Austin]

And I'm like, over here. I'm like, he's a genius.

[Jordan Austin]

I clicked four buttons. But we launched Divi from that Shopify storefront. And the craziest part about that story is we are on the same website that we were still.

[Danny Austin]

Really?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. And we are. It's crazy. I mean, we've, we've changed the themes and like, there's like a lot of, like, apps that you can add to Shopify, but we're on the very same store that we were on before.

[Danny Austin]

I remember when we first launched too. Like, I had the Shopify app on my phone. I don't look at it. Do you still look at the, like, sales every day?

[Jordan Austin]

No, I have to look at Like a bunch of other metrics. But like, yeah, I mean, but I.

[Danny Austin]

Used to get on there every single night and I would just like check and see, see, like, oh my gosh, we got a sale here. And I would like track like, oh my gosh, somebody in California knows about us or somebody in Washington.

[Jordan Austin]

It was like the craziest thing about Shopify as a company, and I mean this sincerely, is that they are great for small businesses that want to get on the ding, the ding on their phone like every time an order comes in. And then they are great for large scale businesses too. Like it's kind of the industry standard across E commerce.

[Danny Austin]

That's so true. Because you would think, like it's shocking to me that we use the same platform that we started with.

[Jordan Austin]

No. 100.

[Danny Austin]

Like that's, that doesn't kind of unheard of like you actually, I would say everything else that we had we outgrew.

[Jordan Austin]

In fact, most of the bigger companies that were on other platforms are now shopping, switching to Shopify interest.

[Danny Austin]

Well, I love it. Honestly, it has always just been such a staple for us. It's like the backbone to our business. Just giving us so much ease, so much flexibility to grow. And like I said, we can manage our business from anywhere, which is really nice. Like we're going to Colorado tomorrow and if something is changing or something we need to look at, we can just like pull it up on our phone.

[Jordan Austin]

I should pull it up right now.

[Danny Austin]

It's like, ding, ding, ding, ding.

[Jordan Austin]

Still got the app. Oh, good job, team. They're doing really great today.

[Danny Austin]

That's so funny.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, it is cool. Like I, I, I can check on our subscriptions, I can check on like our website traffic. I can check on anything. And they have really straightforward analytics so that people like you or me who don't really know Excel that well, like, we can just understand it.

[Danny Austin]

Like Excel who. So if you're ready to build your own business, whether it's merch, a passion project you've been sitting on, or even a summer side hustle, get on shopify.com Danny and make it happen. Because we did. And now we've sold more than 2 million bottles of the scalp serum that started it all. Thank you to Shopify for sponsoring our podcast and being the best e commerce platform ever. We love you. Well, good. We're going to Aspen, so moving on.

[Jordan Austin]

Where we're going before that, by the way, WNBA game tonight.

[Danny Austin]

Guys, this might be like kind of my coolest invite.

[Jordan Austin]

Where's it at? Like a high school gym Jordan, you.

[Danny Austin]

Are going to get shit on for that comment. I mean, over. We're over here talking about God's blessings, goodness.

[Jordan Austin]

To be clear.

[Danny Austin]

Now you're sexist.

[Jordan Austin]

To be clear. To be clear, if anyone hacked my phone and read my group text, I told my guy friends who are having a barbecue tonight that I couldn't go because I was going to a WNBA game. And trust me, you can assume the way I got made fun of in this text and I stood up for females everywhere and I said, you sexist, misogynistic pigs.

[Danny Austin]

But then you just made that comment.

[Jordan Austin]

I'm going to support the Dallas Wings and you guys are disgusting for the way.

[Danny Austin]

Who are the Dallas Wings playing?

[Jordan Austin]

I don't know the teams.

[Danny Austin]

The Indiana Falcons.

[Jordan Austin]

It's a growing sport. It's a growing sport.

[Danny Austin]

Who plays for Indiana Falcons? Caitlin Clark.

[Jordan Austin]

No, she doesn't.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, she does.

[Jordan Austin]

No, she plays for the Fever.

[Danny Austin]

Shit. Indiana. I'm letting.

[Jordan Austin]

Please keep it in shit. Because you literally just made my point. It's like, listen, Indiana Fever.

[Danny Austin]

Okay, it started with an F. Also. Who's the Fever? What? What is a fever?

[Jordan Austin]

This is what I'm saying, guys. Like, listen, that's why my joke was funny. Because it's like we can both be for the WNBA and also acknowledge high school gym and also acknowledge that it's a under indexed, rapidly growing and expanding sport that we are now jumping on.

[Danny Austin]

Well, we're sitting court side, which also explains.

[Jordan Austin]

But can I be honest? Can I be honest? Can I be honest? Where is the game?

[Danny Austin]

American Airlines.

[Jordan Austin]

Is it? Is it really? I had heard it was at the convention center.

[Danny Austin]

No, it's at American Airlines.

[Jordan Austin]

Okay, got it.

[Danny Austin]

6:30. We invited a new friend.

[Jordan Austin]

Yes.

[Danny Austin]

So that's always funny.

[Jordan Austin]

So to be clear, Caitlin Clark is going to be there tonight.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, she's playing for the Fever Falcons.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, you didn't tell me that. See, Caitlin Clark. We love Caitlin Clark. She's doing a ton. No, no, Indiana Fever.

[Danny Austin]

The Hidden Fever Falcons.

[Jordan Austin]

So I thought we were just going to a random WNBA game if we're going to see Caitlin Clark. She's an icon.

[Danny Austin]

No, that's what I'm saying. People are freaking out. She's kind of a big deal.

[Jordan Austin]

No, she's a huge deal. But isn't there a lot of controversy happening right now because the WNBA is like, not also.

[Danny Austin]

She just got hurt.

[Jordan Austin]

She's getting beat up a lot.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, she just got hurt. Like her groin or something is like out. Like she didn't play against Los Angeles or something. She's not playing today. You're freaking kidding me. You Fever Falcons. Oh, my God. Are you serious? Yeah, I don't think she's playing tonight.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, hey, maybe she'll sit.

[Danny Austin]

Maybe she sat out on the last game because she was going to play tonight. Yeah, maybe she will play.

[Jordan Austin]

She's playing.

[Danny Austin]

She's playing.

[Jordan Austin]

She's playing. We're going to.

[Danny Austin]

Let's go, Fever Falcons. We're a sports podcast now. We're a sports podcast.

[Jordan Austin]

I. I do want to say this, though. Is it true, though, that she is being mistreated in the wnba?

[Danny Austin]

You know what we're about to see? Wait, in, like, what way?

[Jordan Austin]

So. So let me tell you, because I think you'll relate to this. So, like, you know, I was a.

[Danny Austin]

Baller in high school.

[Jordan Austin]

Yes. So she comes into the wnba, she's a superstar. She has probably the most brand awareness for the WNBA of any athlete out.

[Danny Austin]

There, like, out being endorsed by all these huge athletes.

[Jordan Austin]

So the speculation. I'm not saying this. The speculation is that, like, she. If you watch, like, clips, she's, like, getting, like, elbowed in the face, and, like, she's getting beat up by the rest of the league because I think they're so jealous of her stardom. So, like, she's a rookie.

[Danny Austin]

Hold on. I just want to, like, make sure. Is this, like, a known fact? Because when you play basketball, you do get beat up.

[Jordan Austin]

No, wait.

[Danny Austin]

It's like. It's, like, more intentional. Okay.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, it's like. It's, like, crazy. Like, people.

[Danny Austin]

Like, people are just, like, running, and they're like, right, yeah, someone poked her in the eye, like, a game ago. Okay. See, the thing is, like, us girls, that's. I mean, you put us on a court like that, and, like, there's so many hormones, and I'm like, I'm gonna literally kill you. Yeah, Like, I used to do that. Like, when I played basketball, I was always a little skinny, little bony thing. And these girls would come over and just. And I literally. We'd be running on the other side of court, trying to just, like, just running. And I would literally go up to the girl and just elbow the. Out of her. I'd be like, stay back. Like, because you kind of have to do that, because otherwise they will come for you. Like, and so. Or sometimes I would take my nails. I was a bad girl.

[Jordan Austin]

But, like, I think that what's happening is rather than seeing the bigger picture, like, of how much additional revenue that she is bringing into the league as, like, a star, like, the other.

[Danny Austin]

They're making nothing? Is that what you're saying?

[Jordan Austin]

No. The other girls are, like, instead, like, jealous and trying to destroy her.

[Danny Austin]

Why don't you think this is what everyone's speculating? The league is good for everybody.

[Jordan Austin]

That's what. That's what everyone's confused about. They're like, why. Why is the WNBA not protecting and. Or prioritizing Caitlin Clark versus, like, letting this get so rowdy around her? Because, bigger picture, she's doing more for.

[Danny Austin]

The WNBA because it just brings more drama, more money.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, so you think they're capitalizing on the drama?

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, because that's a good.

[Jordan Austin]

That's a good theory.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. It's a story. It's like, now we're all gonna go see Caitlyn Clark get beat up. She better defend herself. Like, she better. Like, I want to see what happens. I want to see.

[Jordan Austin]

That's a good story. That's. That's a good. So you think it's all intentional?

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, I think that all sports are just, like, another form of media. It's all about the drama.

[Jordan Austin]

Hot take. It's a good take. I do also think, though, that girls can be very mean to other girls. And so I think that there's, like, a very strong element of this where it's like, veterans are like, I've been playing this for 10 years. You think you can come in here?

[Danny Austin]

Girls are.

[Jordan Austin]

And they're probably. There's probably more mean to rookies, like, the WNBA is probably more mean to, like, a rookie like Caitlin Clark than the NBA probably ever is to any incoming rookie.

[Danny Austin]

I could see it. And you know what really hurts the most are the words that are being said. Six in stones may break my bones.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, I think she's been pretty poised about it. Right. She doesn't, like, slap back.

[Danny Austin]

She never, you know, it hurts.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. But she doesn't show weakness, and that's why we love her.

[Danny Austin]

But that's why girls also hate her.

[Jordan Austin]

That's also for sure, Danny. For sure. I know because I've watched. I've. I've learned a lot about the female. The. The what? The. What is it like, the. The jungle of females right. In the Internet. Like, I've. I've learned a lot about how mean.

[Danny Austin]

They are to other girls.

[Jordan Austin]

Yes. Like, how mean they are to other girls and how fickle the statement women support women actually is. It is until the woman are better than me. Yeah. You have to, like, until you go too far better than. And then it's like, we turn on you. You. Right.

[Danny Austin]

That's why I swear Taylor Swift dresses the way that she dresses to be relatable.

[Jordan Austin]

It probably is true, honestly, cuz, like. And I. Yeah, it's just so fickle, and I can't explain it. What is that? Jealousy? Envy?

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

So mean.

[Danny Austin]

I know us females, you better watch out. Rare. It's horrible. It's horrible.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, but I'm really. I'm really excited. I. You know, I hope I get Caitlin Clark's autograph.

[Danny Austin]

I hope I get a selfie with her. That would be cool.

[Jordan Austin]

Are you going to. Are you going to support women and buy season tickets?

[Danny Austin]

Are you?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, I already did. I really support woman.

[Danny Austin]

If I play woman, you make fun of me.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

Did I say woman again?

[Jordan Austin]

People can't get past it.

[Danny Austin]

Guys, I like, I'm sorry. This is a product of public schooling. They never taught me to say them differently. It's. I support woman. I support woman. I am a woman. I support woman. What is the difference? Okay, if you don't like it, don't send your kid to public school.

[Jordan Austin]

Another crazy thing that happened to me this week. You want to know? Okay, I got this email.

[Danny Austin]

Have I. Do I know about this one?

[Jordan Austin]

No, you didn't. I saved it for you.

[Danny Austin]

I think the air conditioning is still out in this room. Do y' all feel that?

[Jordan Austin]

No, it just shut off.

[Danny Austin]

Why?

[Jordan Austin]

Probably broken.

[Danny Austin]

Okay.

[Jordan Austin]

Hi, Jordan. My name is Taylor. And first off, I just want to say how much I admire what you Danny, about. That's nice. I'm reaching out because I've heard you rave on several podcast episodes about the go to cups from Merit Coffee and how your research led to you to discover their manufactured by Graphic packaging. Well, you're in luck. My dad is actually the director of procurement at Graphic Packaging.

[Danny Austin]

No way.

[Jordan Austin]

And the story gets even better. Growing up, he always brought home paper products from work plates, napkins, especially the paper coffee cups. Yada, yada. Drinking coffee from those cups. She's a. She's a real one. She gets it. Drinking coffee from those cups became part of his daily routine and art of and honestly, part of his personality, to the point that it's now a running joke in the family. I get this, man.

[Danny Austin]

You should see Jordan with his little teacups. It's his personality, too.

[Jordan Austin]

Long story short, she's gonna. She's gonna wave the moq of a hundred thousand cups and get us cups printed for the lake house. Dreams do come true.

[Danny Austin]

That is so sweet. And what are you gonna put on the cups? The ram tucket. Yes, we Ramirez Ram Tucket.

[Jordan Austin]

I need to follow up with that graphic designer.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, so I definitely.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, no, I don't care.

[Danny Austin]

I won. We're not doing their Ramirez ranchita. Because that makes sense. Ram Tucket. So Nantucket Ram Tucket. Oh, Ramirez smart. The Ram. You're just a genius. Our friend came with it, but I was gonna take the credit, but then I was like, that's ungodly.

[Jordan Austin]

What have you been learning this week?

[Danny Austin]

Honestly, not enough to share. Like, I would actually know. I've been reading a lot about Palantir. I. What else was I learning about earlier? Oh, Liver King and Joe Rogan. Scene of, like, females being mean to each other. Like, when you get a male and a little too much testosterone, they go a little crazy too. Did you hear about Liver King?

[Jordan Austin]

I did hear about Liver King.

[Danny Austin]

So he looks.

[Jordan Austin]

He looks not. Well, no, he for sure. He was on, like. I think he was spending. What did that leaked email say? Like 13 grand a month on steroids. He for sure is off steroids because. And you can see it in his overall appearance. Yeah, you can see it.

[Danny Austin]

Is it come down really hard off of steroids?

[Jordan Austin]

I think the comedown is very hard because your body is so like, what do I do with all of this?

[Danny Austin]

Or maybe he's on too much, too many steroids. Cuz I think the testosterone was really coming out the. Seeping through his pores.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. So I think he really ramped up.

[Danny Austin]

Can I tell what happened first?

[Jordan Austin]

Sure.

[Danny Austin]

Okay. Thank you. So Liver King was arrested in Austin, which, this is a little weird because he made a video threatening Joe Rogan, saying he wanted to do like, fight Joe Rogan, like, respectfully fight him. He was like, I don't know, jiu jitsu. You probably would like, just demolish me, but I want to fight you. And he was very aggressive in this video and he showed that he was like, coming to Austin. And I guess, like the police saw this video and reached out to Joe Rogan, and Joe Rogan was like, yeah, this seems threatening. And then like arrested him when he was at the Four Seasons in Austin. It's weird that he just got arrested off of that one video. And also number one and number two, no offense, but it kind of seem. Makes like Joe Rogan kind of seem like it was like he was. It was just an Instagram video. And I watched it and it wasn't like he was like holding up a bloody knife. He was like, I want to respectfully fight you probably would demolish me, but I'm coming for you. Let's fight.

[Jordan Austin]

Like, let me ask you one question. Have you watched his other videos before that? Like in general or just, just like, of him. Call it the past two weeks. Like, have you watched what else he's been posting? No, he's very unwell.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Jordan Austin]

Like, he's very, very unwell. Like off the rockers. Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

But like, I would say Justin Bieber is too. And he's not getting arrested, but he's.

[Jordan Austin]

Also not flying to other cities saying, I'm going to fight you and holding like weapons.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, he was holding weapons?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, like, he was arrested with like. Will you look this up? Yeah, he was like arrested. He was like holding guns. Like, nice. Yeah, like.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, okay. I. I didn't know.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, this is a very different. Just open up your phone.

[Danny Austin]

I don't know. Justin Bieber is smoking weed next to his child. I kind of feel like.

[Jordan Austin]

But I think that this guy's like, on like meth.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, you think? It's like a hardcore drug.

[Jordan Austin]

So my theory, if you don't mind me sharing.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Now that everybody knows what happened, go ahead because I.

[Jordan Austin]

Why don't you look up the videos and I'll explain you my theory. Okay, so what?

[Danny Austin]

Oh, tech check. He was seen with a two short barrel AR15 style rifles. Oh, okay, I'm sorry, I didn't know about that part. Yeah, yeah. This guy needs to be in jail. He got a. He got a class B misdemeanor, which the only thing I have to say about that, don't I have a class B?

[Jordan Austin]

The misdemeanor is an mic. A class B.

[Danny Austin]

Is that. What kind of class are we talking about with that one? I mean, what do liver King and Danny Austin have in common? We both have misdemeanors now.

[Jordan Austin]

So I would say this.

[Danny Austin]

You can clip that.

[Jordan Austin]

What I would say is that he roided up pretty hardcore at the height of his fame. And if you watch his documentary. We've already talked about this on another podcast. But to refresh, he had a group of people who. He was not a content creator. He was very uncomfortable on camera. And he talks about in the documentary how this film crew basically blew him up by him doing outrageous things. Okay. So he was never the one actually creating the content, but a whole brand was built around him. Okay. So I really want you to think about this from like your perspective, Danny. So a whole team comes around and he gets used to all of this fame. He says in the documentary this fame was like hits of cocaine every time. So he starts to learn and his brain starts to rewire around the fame and the dopamine rush that comes with fame. Okay. So then documentary comes out. He falls from grace because he is found out to be on steroids. He's. Now, if you watch his videos, he's like, crawling around the Four Seasons, Austin. He's trying. It's so sad because he's trying to be the liver king and get back what he lost. And when. When. What happens, I think to, like, the brain that's rewired when you get that much rush of a dopamine from, like, being on stage or, you know, creating content. Like, I think this is what happened with Justin Bieber too. He's, like, searching for that rush again. He's off steroids, so his mind is, like, probably diminishing.

[Danny Austin]

You don't know if he's off steroids.

[Jordan Austin]

You can tell that he's off steroids because if you see, like, his skin is starting to sag. Yeah, he's lost a ton of mass. Do you see all that? His face? His face looks like really. Yes, his really messed up.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, his face looks droopy.

[Jordan Austin]

So my theory is that, like, he. It's so sad because he's trying to kind of revive what he was, but he's trying to do it like himself, and it's coming across so bad. And so he probably flew to Austin and was like, I'm going to get so many clicks off of like, okay, fighting, fighting Joe Rogan. But he lost his content creators, so he doesn't natively get the Internet. And his wife is, like, filming all this stuff.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, she's with him?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. She's with.

[Danny Austin]

In Austin?

[Jordan Austin]

Yes. She was with him in the videos. I think his sons were there too. No, and so, like, it's like a story. It's such a sad story because it's a story of, like, someone who saw the mountaintop, like, is trying to climb back up on their own. And I wouldn't put it past, like, like, a lot of the Internet thinks he's on, like, meth because he's got, like, all these, like, crazy, like, welts and cuts on his face.

[Danny Austin]

Yes, he does kind of. Okay, I understand now.

[Jordan Austin]

And it's just so sad because it's like a pretty classic story arc of, like, the rise and fall. And he's just at that stage in the fall where instead of, like, getting. Giving it up and like, finding sobriety and, like, you know, finding peace and accepting the fact that, like, he experienced it and it wasn't all that it chocked up to be. He's still like fighting to get it back. And so the reason I think he's on hardcore drugs is because I don't think getting off steroids would make you do something as crazy as, like show up with like AR15s to like a city and threaten like a star. It's just a different nuance to what he's doing than what was happening before. And it's feeling a little bit drug induced.

[Danny Austin]

So I said, I asked ChatGPT, is it hard to get off steroids? Yes, it can be hard to get off steroids, especially if you've been on them for a long time at high doses. Um, it help. It hurts your physical dependence. Your body may reduce its natural production of hormones like cortisol when you're on blah blah, leading to withdrawal symptoms when you stop. Um, stopping can also lead to hormonal imbalances, low testosterone. Other symptoms, withdrawal symptoms, weakness, body joint pain, depression, mood swings, nausea, vomiting. You need to taper. And some people experience psychological dependence, especially with anabolic steroids.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

Where they may fear losing muscle mass or performance.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, it's so sad.

[Danny Austin]

I feel for him, but I, I hope he makes a comeback and like not come back to like being the liver king, but just come back mentally.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. You know, it's so sad. I feel for his family.

[Danny Austin]

That's weird that they were filming though.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. I mean, I think he's probably like got like. There's probably financial pressure in his family too because, like, he was making so much money they inflated their lifestyle and so now he's like, I've got to make a liver king comeback. And I feel so. I don't know, I just like, just feel bad praying for him.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

Prayers up, Liver King.

[Danny Austin]

Prayers for love.

[Jordan Austin]

But like, no more guns, no more threatening celebrities.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, that's not cool. Let's see what else has been going on in the world. Let's start our things that make you go segment. Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez got married. So Jeff Bezos and Lauren upcoming wedding in Venice is shaping up to be a spectacle equal parts opulence, controversy and Internet fodder. On the bright side, it's expected to boost the local economy with a list guests like Oprah and Kim Kardashian descending on the historic city for a three day celebration. Where is the city? It doesn't say. Oh, did it say that? No. Venice. Three day celebration in Venice. Featuring gourmet food, luxury gifts and Bezos $500 million yacht. But not everyone's cheering. Locals have launched protests Accusing the city of prioritizing Billionaire. That's a word I've never seen. Pageantry, pageantry. Like a pageant. Pageantry over public services and affordable housing. And there's. And then there's the invite. It's gone viral for all the wrong reasons. Mocked as Canva core with cheesy doves and clip art gondolas with environmentalists slamming the lavishness as tone deaf. In a world facing climate and economic crisis, the wedding is more than just a party. It's a symbol of everything people love and loathe about modern billionaire culture. What do you think?

[Jordan Austin]

I think 500 million for a boat is crazy.

[Danny Austin]

Like, he owns it.

[Jordan Austin]

No, I know, but like, how do you even.

[Danny Austin]

That has nothing to do with the wedding. I mean, besides.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, I'm just. Can we contemplate 500 million dollar boat?

[Danny Austin]

I really can't though.

[Jordan Austin]

It's like. That's crazy, right?

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, because like a really expensive house in Highland park is like 20 million.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

And then you have like a 500 million dollar yacht. It's like, yeah, I can't. I wonder, like, you would buy a company for 500 million? Like, road.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. And he's just like, okay, I'll sell some stock and get it. Yacht for 500.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. But he also like, came up with like. And you know, it's Amazon.

[Jordan Austin]

You know, it's so crazy.

[Danny Austin]

So, like, it makes sense.

[Jordan Austin]

But It's. He paid 500 million, but then the cost to maintain that and the crew and the gas.

[Danny Austin]

But isn't he worth like hundreds of billions? No, that's a lot of. That's a lot of billions, I think.

[Jordan Austin]

No, I think you're right.

[Danny Austin]

How much is Jeff Bezos worth?

[Jordan Austin]

I think he's like, second.

[Danny Austin]

Babe. This is chomps.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, that's chump change.

[Danny Austin]

This is chomp change.

[Jordan Austin]

Chomp change.

[Danny Austin]

Think about how many Amazon packages we get in a day.

[Jordan Austin]

Here's the question.

[Danny Austin]

Multiply that times the hundreds of millions.

[Jordan Austin]

Do you think that he did a prenup?

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jordan Austin]

Can we google that, babe?

[Danny Austin]

Duh. Like, are you kidding me? But you're a silly little boy.

[Jordan Austin]

I don't know. She seems like a powerful woman. Maybe she talked him out of it.

[Danny Austin]

She.

[Jordan Austin]

She was like, this is love.

[Danny Austin]

What? What? Who is Lauren Sanchez? Like, I get like that. Up next, reports indicate that Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez have a prenuptial agreement. Duh. Should be Mrs. Amazon. But can you.

[Jordan Austin]

He's like, I'm gonna send you to space, baby. Don't you worry.

[Danny Austin]

She's Like, I'm.

[Jordan Austin]

Who's your friend, Katy Perry? You want Katie to go?

[Danny Austin]

Okay. She's like, I'm gonna start run running Amazon packages in the space. She's. What? Is this real? She's. She was an American journalist and a licensed pilot and founder of Black Ops aviation.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

Oh, she's, like, kind of a big deal. She's cool. That's insane. Yeah, that's the thing about, like, really, really smart billionaires. They like marrying other smart people, you know, like Mark Zuckerberg, his wife. Real smart girl.

[Jordan Austin]

How do you know?

[Danny Austin]

They both met at. What school did they go to?

[Jordan Austin]

Harvard.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, so, like, yeah, smarties. Smarties. This. Smarty tardies. They just hang out and just talk about smart people things. I heard the greatest quote the other day, but I'm probably not gonna get it, right?

[Jordan Austin]

Just try. You'll get it.

[Danny Austin]

Okay, hold on. I'm, like, so close to it. Google it. And then. And then. Okay. Dumb minds sit around talking about other people. People. Good minds sit around talking about. That's the part where I forgot. Great minds sit around talking about ideas.

[Jordan Austin]

Okay, let's see.

[Danny Austin]

Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people. Thank you. And it was. Oh, oh, wait, was it a former president? It was Eleanor Roosevelt. Roosevelt. I love. I love that lady. She got women in the White House for journalism.

[Jordan Austin]

Supporting woman, starting woman.

[Danny Austin]

I love supporting woman out there.

[Jordan Austin]

So that's a. Honestly, that. That checks out. That checks out.

[Danny Austin]

Although, is it dumb minds or. That's a strong word. Was it. Or if it. Small minds. Okay. I should say it's great minds, average minds, and then small minds. Okay, so great minds sit around talking about. But I thought it was vice versa. I thought it was like small. Small minds sit around talking about other people. Average mind talk about events, talk about events. Great minds talk about ideas. It's so true.

[Jordan Austin]

It's. It checks out. Although I will say, when I'm very active on Twitter and I really know what's going on in the world, you've told me this. You've given me this feedback. It's kind of the best party trick because you never don't have something to talk about.

[Danny Austin]

I know. I'm like.

[Jordan Austin]

So I don't think it's like an average mind that can talk about what's going on in the world. I feel like it's like a greater mind, like people. It's a good party trick. Does that make sense to.

[Danny Austin]

To understand the events going on in the world? Yeah.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. Like. Like whenever I'm. Well Informed and how, like, can talk about things. Like, I feel. I feel it's. It's somewhat of a sign of a great mind because I. I've noticed in conversation, like, it's. It's more fun to talk to people who know what's going on.

[Danny Austin]

I know. I've been trying so hard to, like, know what's going on.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, but Danny's so funny. Because she gets all of her news from comedians.

[Danny Austin]

No, I don't.

[Jordan Austin]

Theo Vaughn, first of all.

[Danny Austin]

I get them from the interviews he has.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.

[Danny Austin]

With, like, congressmen.

[Jordan Austin]

So. So, Theo Vaughn, who's your podcast rotation?

[Danny Austin]

I've been listening to a lot of Russell Brand interviews because, I mean, he's a little. It's a little out there for me, but I like that he incorporates it. Scripture into it. Yeah. Theon. I mean, I've been listening to Candace Owens. I know.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

I was gonna say she's a little out there for me. Okay. She goes a little extreme, and sometimes she's kind of mean, and I don't really like that, but. But, I mean, she has good people on.

[Jordan Austin]

And you also listen to Don Lemon.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah, totally.

[Jordan Austin]

She's very well versed. She's across the whole spectrum.

[Danny Austin]

I listen to. Oh, my God. Sorry. Gosh, I didn't mean to say your name in vain. Forgive me.

[Jordan Austin]

You've also been cussing a lot lately on the pod. I know you only cuss on the.

[Danny Austin]

Pod, but I kind of like it. I think it's so funny.

[Jordan Austin]

I think it's because she watched the Alex Cooper documentary.

[Danny Austin]

What?

[Jordan Austin]

I'm joking.

[Danny Austin]

I cussed before the Alex Cooper, and I shouldn't be cussing. Yeah, but sometimes there's just no other word to express what I'm feeling.

[Jordan Austin]

What are you feeling? I totally get it.

[Danny Austin]

And sometimes I do think it is kind of funny.

[Jordan Austin]

But anyway, that's the slippery slope. That's how it starts.

[Danny Austin]

I know.

[Jordan Austin]

It starts as a joke and then you're crap.

[Danny Austin]

I typically don't say any other word, but that's true. I never say the F word, do I?

[Jordan Austin]

No.

[Danny Austin]

Never? No. That's, like, tacky to me. So is. But, like, just sometimes I just always.

[Jordan Austin]

Want to say you're like. It gives me a little edge.

[Danny Austin]

You're just a little. It's like. It's like having a tattoo, you know?

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

It's like, I love Jesus, but I shit a little, you know?

[Jordan Austin]

But I've got this yin yang tattoo.

[Danny Austin]

But. Oh, okay. There is a phenomenal podcast Have y' all heard the podcast? It's probably, like, one of the top three podcasts in the world. I think it is.

[Jordan Austin]

She's like, call her daddy.

[Danny Austin]

I'm like, have you heard of Joe Rogan? No.

[Jordan Austin]

He's this brilliant mind.

[Danny Austin]

He's like, so cool. No, Modern Wisdom.

[Jordan Austin]

I don't. I've never heard of it.

[Danny Austin]

Have you all heard of it? Guys, this podcast, there is an episode with Dr. Amen. Is that how you say is so good? It's one of the best episodes I've ever listened to in my life. First of all, this Modern Wisdom. This is what's so crazy about this guy. I think his name is Chris William or Chris Williamson. He kind of has two first names, so you don't know if he could trust the guy. But then. So it's called Modern Wisdom with Chris Williamson, and he does episodes, I think, every other day, and he has all different types of guests. But the episode 958 with Dr. Daniel Amen. The 11 risk factors that are destroying your brain is a phenomenal episode.

[Jordan Austin]

Well, tell us about it. Danny Austin.

[Danny Austin]

You know, I don't really remember anything from it, but I remember thinking, this is the best episode I've ever listened to. And I learned so, so much about my brain. And it talks about all different types of things, like parenting, substance abuse, mental health. Like, it just talks about everything. And he makes it so interesting. But this podcast is phenomenal, like, because they. You can learn about anything. Anything that you want to learn about. He has it on here. The secret to becoming a confident speaker. I listened to that before I gave my speech.

[Jordan Austin]

Wow. You know that he crushed it.

[Danny Austin]

No, I really did. Let's see. How to not let your past define you. Let's see a master class in storytelling. The downfall of CrossFit. How to actually build discipline. How to break free from chronic anxiety. A lot of this sounds like. But he has a lot of. Oh, how Modern parenting got it all wrong. Like, just some really great topics. So anyway, y' all should go listen to it. And what's so nice is you can just kind of scroll and find something that is relevant to you.

[Jordan Austin]

So funny. That's what people say about de influence, too. You can find it all, Any topic.

[Danny Austin]

You want, Anything you want. We talk about it. Why modern women feel more lost than ever. White Water Woman. Did I say. I said woman.

[Jordan Austin]

People are gonna like for. For the. The.001% of people that just cannot get over that. You can't get this right. They're gonna be like, she's doing this despite me. She can't be serious.

[Danny Austin]

It's like pillow or pillow. Pillow or pillow.

[Jordan Austin]

It's simpler than that.

[Danny Austin]

But no, it's woman or woman.

[Jordan Austin]

It's a little bit bigger than the, like, the crayon crown conversation.

[Danny Austin]

It's not, though. It's a pillow there.

[Jordan Austin]

No one's really. No one I've met has this struggle with women like you do.

[Danny Austin]

The thing is, is that our old podcast producer, J.D. he used to, like. He would, like, stop the recording, be like, danny, it's women. And I'm like. I'd be like, women. And I'd be like, women, women, women, women, woman. And then I'd record so woman. I cannot get it right. I. I will never change. It's just like. It's like I learned how to swing when I was three years old, and I'll never change my swing.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, my gosh.

[Danny Austin]

Anyway, speaking of pronounced pronunciations, is the ketchup. Is it Heinz or hints?

[Jordan Austin]

Now you're just. Now you're just. You're being. You're being a troll.

[Danny Austin]

I'm just beating you. Heinz to stop using food dye. Hmm. Heinz has announced it will stop using artificial food dyes in some of its popular products. This move is part of a broader industry trend responding to growing consumer demand for simpler, more natural ingredients. Specifically, Heinz plans to eliminate artificial dyes from products like its ketchup and other condiments in certain markets. Ooh. What color is it going to be?

[Jordan Austin]

I know.

[Danny Austin]

Brown.

[Jordan Austin]

Like, yeah.

[Danny Austin]

What's this decision reflects increasing health and health and transparency concerns among consumers, especially regarding additives in food. My only question is, does anybody remember the glow in the dark ketchup? I mean, that could not have been good for us. Do you remember that? It was glow in the dark, Heinz. It was like neon. They had. Wasn't there, like, a purple one, too, at one point? Yeah. Oh, disgusting. What other brands do you want to see change their approach as a newfound Maha mama?

[Jordan Austin]

I'm gonna be honest. I think this could destroy their business. I think if I look at, like, light brown ketchup, it's the same thing. Like, when you change the green, I'm like, gross. That red ketchup. They perfected that shade of red.

[Danny Austin]

I know.

[Jordan Austin]

To where I just, like, want it.

[Danny Austin]

I know.

[Jordan Austin]

And I think that this could destroy it.

[Danny Austin]

No, because if you think about it, like, Primal Kitchen has a ketchup. And the thing about it that I actually don't like, it's not the color of it, because it is a deeper Red. It's like, the texture of it. So if they just keep the texture good, this will be so interesting. I can't wait. It's gonna take, like, 10 years.

[Jordan Austin]

Have you ever tasted the primal kitchen? Is it good?

[Danny Austin]

I. I could definitely get used to it, but it's not. It's not. It's not. No hints, right? Wait, I think Whole Foods has a, like, all natural one. My stepmom switched us out when I was in high school. Oh, serious? Yeah. And it, like, now I can't eat Heinz. It's too sugary.

[Jordan Austin]

It is interesting. Like, once you. Once you get your body away from, like, all this stuff, it's. It's funny how you stop craving it and it actually becomes kind of gross.

[Danny Austin]

For sure. Like, popsicles. Like, popsicles that are not natural fruits is. It's disgusting.

[Jordan Austin]

Like, those kids. Those, like, better parents than us that, like, don't let their kids eat sugar and they're.

[Danny Austin]

Their kids have a races, and they're.

[Jordan Austin]

Like, yeah, if you offer their. Their kids, like, a cookie, they'll be like, no.

[Danny Austin]

They're like, first of all, my mom said no. And second of all, like, mom, can I have the real stuff?

[Jordan Austin]

Which kudos to those parents. Like, that's.

[Danny Austin]

Babe, we are those parents. Okay.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, sure.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Yes. Okay.

[Jordan Austin]

It's pirate booty. That's. That's okay.

[Danny Austin]

You know, it's not great.

[Jordan Austin]

It's not great.

[Danny Austin]

No.

[Jordan Austin]

I thought we were doing a good job there.

[Danny Austin]

No, it's, like, better, but it's not great. Like, Taylor Dinks wouldn't give it to her kids. It's okay. Let's say baby steps. Okay, Topic three. Something that makes you go, Sabrina Carpenter potentially have. No. To potentially have no phones at her concerts. Can I just say, Sabrina Carpenter just loves to push that little line. She just, like, she scares me a little bit. She's so little, and I'm like, she's so little and just, like, little, and she just. She just, like, does things that are not good. And she's little when she does.

[Jordan Austin]

Sure. Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

You know, there's just something about it that really, like, irks me a little bit.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. I don't follow her that closely. Is she. We. I think I asked this last week.

[Danny Austin]

I mean, I think she's under five feet. She's like, five feet. Yeah. I think she's like four something.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, you would never know.

[Danny Austin]

Little angry people are way scarier than big. So she really scares me. And, like, you know, I. I don't know, but she. I. I'm just Gonna say it. I don't think she's a good role model. There, I said it. Okay.

[Jordan Austin]

Because she's.

[Danny Austin]

She's exactly five feet. Not because she's little. No. Because here's the thing. If she was a good role model, I'd be like, she's so freaking cute and, like, little. But she's like a bad role model and little. And that just really is not okay. It's not okay with me. I just. I don't like that at all. Sorry.

[Jordan Austin]

That's really not okay with me.

[Danny Austin]

Because you. I think what's so scary about it is, like, you want to squeeze her cheeks and, like, you want to cuddle her and you want to love her because she's just so little. And you just want to be like, you cute little thing. But then she's such a bad little thing. You know? It's horrible. You know what I mean? It's like a child. It's like a child. And, like, you're like, hi, little dude. And they're like. And then you're just like, I wasn't expecting that. That's why it scares me.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

Does that make sense? She looks so sweet. She's not.

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, man. I can't even picture her.

[Danny Austin]

Picture, like the cutest little baby doll with blonde hair and big blue eyes and then just fangs coming out.

[Jordan Austin]

Let me see. What's her name?

[Danny Austin]

Sabrina Carpenter. It shouldn't be allowed to be that cute and bad.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah. You wouldn't think she's little.

[Danny Austin]

No, you would think she's little. You would. Look at her compared to Taylor Swift. There's a picture of her and Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift is like five' eleven. I feel like people forget that.

[Jordan Austin]

Sabrina Carpenter, Taylor Swift.

[Danny Austin]

It's. It's hilarious. This picture is insane. Yeah. Wait, hold on.

[Jordan Austin]

You know about this one right here?

[Danny Austin]

No, because she's wearing. Babe, she's wearing huge heels there. She's. You have to find her when she's not wearing heels. They must have taken on. I mean, there's this one. Like.

[Jordan Austin]

That'S crazy.

[Danny Austin]

Yeah. Anyway, sorry. We don't need to be doing this right now. So, anyway, my point with that was. Anyway, I just feel like that is not somebody I would want Stella to be listening to or watching. That's all I gotta say. That's kind of mean. But it's true. I'm sorry. I was just. I was just. I'm being mean right now. Yeah, but it's okay. The espresso singer Sabrina Carpenter recently opened up about possibly banning phones at her concerts in the future. The idea comes from comes after the singer attended a phone free Silk Sonic show in Vegas. She said it was the most present and connected she's ever felt at a concert and it left a big impression on her. While she knows it might upset fans, she's open to the idea, especially later in her career. Joking that she might not want fans zooming in on her when she's older, Sabrina emphasized that while capturing memories is fine, being fully immersed in the live experience is even better. Is this something you can get behind? Absolutely not. Because.

[Jordan Austin]

Because she's so little.

[Danny Austin]

I would never do this because. Remember that time that we almost got broken into when we were at the comedy show?

[Jordan Austin]

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Danny Austin]

Who was that?

[Jordan Austin]

Well, our babysitter called us and said.

[Danny Austin]

Wait, but what show are we at? Oh, Theobahn. We were at the Avon and our babysitter, like, needed us. And during, like, you need to have your phone. You have your phone.

[Jordan Austin]

Yeah.

[Danny Austin]

And so that's all I'm gonna say about that.

[Jordan Austin]

Okay, let's wrap.

[Danny Austin]

Okay. You don't want to finish this last story? This last thing that makes you go home?

[Jordan Austin]

No, because I gotta go.

[Danny Austin]

Okay, well, people are really gonna miss out on Sydney's bathwater bliss and Ozzy Osbourne's liquid death cans of iced tea that he drank and his spit is in. People really would like to know this story, but. Sorry, Jordan's gotta go.

[Jordan Austin]

I gotta go.

[Danny Austin]

Okay, well, we are officially back, so make sure if you aren't following D Influence on Instagram and TikTok, head over to our page and follow us at D Influence podcast. We love you guys and we'll talk to you next week. Bye. Bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.