We’re Moving!!!

Summary

Podcast Summary: "We’re Moving!!!"

De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan
Dear Media | May 14, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this intimate and playful episode, Dani and her husband Jordan—joined briefly by their son Stratton—delve into major life updates, especially their impending move from Dallas to Nashville. They open up about Dani’s dental journey with veneers, personal growth post-pregnancy, creativity in homemaking, and get candid about family dynamics, faith, spiritual skepticism, and how success, culture, and slowing down are shaping their next chapter. The tone balances humor, lightly chaotic family energy, and a depth rarely found in influencer conversations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Family Life and Recording with Children

• The episode starts with their young son Stratton in the studio, highlighting the chaos and reality of working parents, with loud toys and interruptions setting an authentic domestic tone.
  [00:20–01:00]

2. Dani’s Veneers Journey: Cost, Process & Self-Care

• Dani shares her veneers story—from why she’s getting them redone, what the process entails, and the pros and cons of “no prep” vs. traditional veneers.
• Viewer Q&A: Dani addresses frequent dental questions, especially about cost (~$2,000 per tooth) and durability.
• Personal take: Self-care and “glow up” post-motherhood, referencing the concept of "looksmaxing" as a tongue-in-cheek nod to self-improvement.
• Dani Quote:

  “I was like grinding the heck out of my teeth and I was like, what’s something that I can do for a little glow up? I was trying to look smacks.” [06:53]

• Jordan observes Dani’s renewed energy: She’s waking up early again, feeling more herself after years of pregnancy and postpartum challenges.

3. Major Life Change: The Move to Nashville

• Big reveal: The Austins are moving from Dallas to Nashville, seeking a new adventure and a slower, more family-centered life.
• Dani’s excitement comes from diving into creative home building and interior design for the first time, calling it her new “project” post-business launches and fashion phases.
• Jordan on Dani’s vision:

  "The funny thing about Danny's vision for this home is he thinks it's my vision and my taste is crazy." [10:07]

• Dani’s creative ethos:

  “If it is for everyone, then it’s not for me...I want it to be like, oh, I love it, but you don’t love it. And that’s OK, because that means that it’s, like, my flavor.” [11:17]

4. Home Design as New Creative Outlet

• Dani describes learning the “rules” of interiors, picking materials, and making their Nashville house deeply personal—not just Instagram-perfect.
• Historic pop culture reference: Mentions Kendall Jenner’s cabin for Architectural Digest as “polarizing”—her own goal is a unique, colorful home that doesn’t blend in.
• Discusses design dynamics with Jordan: He’s been "cut out" of most decisions except his office and landscaping.
• Jordan, joking:

  "She hasn’t even invited me to the group chat." [12:16]

5. Family Culture, Slowing Down & Identity

• Why Nashville? Both sought a shift away from Dallas’s high-pressure, performance-driven culture for a slower, more intentional pace.
• The appeal: less external pressure (“keeping up with the Joneses”), more time outside, better family rhythm, Christian community, and a "better, slower pace of life."
• Dani’s observation:

  “I do feel like the pressure [in Dallas] is to work. Grind. Like, grind.” [25:16]

• Nashville soundbites: Jordan teases Dani for using his past talking points about why Nashville is great for families, solidifying that they're finally aligned after years of disagreement.

6. Dreams of Family Compound and Life in Transition

• Discussing possible future: extended family joining them in Nashville, joking about building a multi-home compound on 100+ acres for privacy and connection.
• Logistics: Their new house won’t be ready until fall, so they’re considering temporary rentals or an investment property as a transitional home.

7. Hosting Philosophy & Neighborly Connections

• Both reflect on how hard it is to be the “hosting” house with four young kids, and how they hope neighbor culture in Nashville will offer more casual, drop-in friendships—without the pressure of formal hosting.
• Dani:

  “Hosting is, like, for a different era of our lives…when your kids are older…” [40:15]

8. Aunt/Uncle Anticipation and Family Personality Traditions

• Dani brainstorms being “Aunt Dee Dee” or establishing a signature treat for nieces/nephews—channeling her childhood memories of her mom’s “cheesy dip” and always having jelly beans.
• The importance of “adding sprinkles” as an aunt/uncle rather than being foundational.

9. Spiritual Skepticism and Faith Conversations

• Deep dive: Jordan shares key insights from The Unseen Realm, a book re-framing spiritual warfare and the supernatural, and how Western Christians can become disconnected from spiritual realities by focusing on the material.
• Dani’s church upbringing: From charismatic roots (miracles, speaking in tongues, dramatic healing services) to a skeptical stance due to confusing, sometimes performative, church experiences.
• Memorable honesty:

  “I gave my life to Jesus 15 times. I still think about it to this day.” [53:08]

• Struggles with faith: Both question the interplay between prayer, miracles, and legalism—asking if they must constantly seek forgiveness, and wrestling with what’s “enough.”
• Jordan’s learning posture:

  “I just like to learn. And I like to be like, okay, like, I think that some of these ideas are right. Some of these ideas are right. And like, I like to come… or maybe I don't know.” [67:41]

• Dani’s internal loop:

  “...there’s this lie that loops in your head, and it’s like, I'm not good enough…if you were to stop that loop, that’s, like, the number one thing that I feel like God wants for you.” [73:08]

10. The Deeper Why Behind the Move

• Multiple references to feeling “not enough” and always striving in Dallas, with hope that Nashville offers permission to slow down, accept “enoughness,” and foster deeper relationships without hiding behind achievements.
• Jordan:

  “Both you and I got to this point where we were like, it's never going to be enough.” [75:49]

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Notable Quotes & Moments (w/ Timestamps)

• On the cost of veneers:
  “Each tooth is about $2,000, so if you get four done, it’s going to be about 8,000. If you get 10 done, you can do the math…” – Dani [05:00]

• On embracing personal style at home:
  “If it is for everyone, then it’s not for me.” – Dani [11:17]

• On thriving after postpartum:
  “I have been waking up at 5:45 every morning...So yeah, I'm back. I'm back to my normal self.” – Dani [08:15–08:26]

• Culture shock prepping for Nashville:
  “When I was there...it really did feel like we were bringing our Dallas into their city so much.” – Jordan [42:18]

• On being an aunt:
  “I really want to be, like, the type of aunt that, like, every single time they see me, like, the same thing happens. So, like, maybe I always have lollipops.” – Dani [31:17]

• Wrestling with faith tradition and legalism:
  “I always feel like things are going to happen a certain way whether I pray about it or not.” – Dani [56:30]

• On achievement, enoughness, and faith:
  “We built all of these things. And I think at the end, both you and I got to this point where we were like, it's never going to be enough.” – Jordan [75:49]

  “I hope people like me, without all my accomplishments. So easy to hide behind.” – Dani [76:43]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Start | |-------------------------------------|----------| | Family/Stratton & Veneers Update | 00:20 | | Veneers Process & Self-Care | 01:02 | | Creative Home Design & Nashville | 08:37 | | Hosting, Neighbors, and Moving | 38:24 | | Faith, Spiritual Skepticism | 45:19 | | Childhood Charismatic Church | 47:02 | | Generational Sin & Spiritual Warfare| 63:10 | | Achievements, Enoughness, Culture | 75:15 | | Moving Plans & Closing Thoughts | 77:45 |

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Conclusion

This episode isn’t just about a move or a home renovation—it’s a raw window into a family navigating change, purpose, faith, and finding “enough.” Fans of De-Influenced will appreciate the blend of lighthearted banter and soul-searching honesty as Dani and Jordan dismantle “influencer” expectations to get very real about what comes next.

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Transcript

[Danny]

Foreign. The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hello, and welcome back to your favorite podcast, De Influenced. We have a special guest today, Stratton Ramirez.

[Jordan]

Stratton Lee Ramirez.

[Danny]

So Stratton is in here with us because Jordan kept him home from school because he missed him.

[Jordan]

Well, we're also going to Nashville with Stella. We took Stratton by himself last time.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And it's just. It's not fair.

[Danny]

It's not fair.

[Jordan]

He's got to get. He's got to get good time in with us.

[Danny]

Yeah. So if you hear some clinking of the toys, it's because he's playing with the dinosaur and Legos, because my husband decided to bring the loudest toys in here.

[Jordan]

Well, he brought. He brought them up. He brought them up to be fair.

[Danny]

Also, sorry if I have a lisp. Do you hear that? I just spit everywhere. Sorry.

[Jordan]

Yeah, well, I don't. I still don't understand what's causing the list.

[Danny]

Okay, so I went in to get my veneers redone. So I had veneers done about seven years ago with Dr. Brian Harris. He's so good. He's kind of like the godfather of veneers, but he's up in Phoenix, and so it's kind of like a whole thing for me with four children to go to Phoenix and to, like, do, you know, do the whole thing. And so he had worked with Dr. Dooley in Houston before, and I was, like, doing a ton of research, and so she is redoing my veneers, and she's adding a bunch to the bottom, too. So what happens when you get veneers done? I had a lot of questions about veneers, so I'll try to answer as many as, you know, I've seen in my DMs. But what happens is you go in for your first appointment, and they take, like, impressions and they get the molds, and they basically have to go and, like, order the porcelain from these, like, labs. And so you can't get your veneers done instantly because they have to order them after measuring everything. So I went in for this first appointment, and they do all the impressions, whatnot. They also have to prep your teeth. So let's just say, like, veneers are the thing where they have to, like, shave down some. Sometimes they have to shave down your teeth in order to, like, fit the veneer over. Well, I had already had my teeth shaved down from my, like, previous veneers, but she had to, like, use a laser to pop off all my current ones. It was crazy. Oh, I saw my veneers were, like. Teeth were, like, flying all over the room with this, like, laser. It's so intense. And so it didn't hurt or anything because they numb you, and it's like. It's just crazy. But then I actually ended up getting, like, no prep veneers on my bottom. So she didn't have to shave down any of my bottom teeth because I was, like, a good candidate for, like, no prep. And so. Which is awesome, because people feel better about it, I guess, if they don't have to shave down their teeth and they just put something over them. But, like, to me, shaving down my teeth, like, doesn't really matter because I didn't ever like my teeth anyway. And they, like, cement these veneers on. I've had veneers for seven years, and I've never had any problems with, like, them, like, cracking or. In fact, I had more issues with my natural teeth cracking than I did my veneers, you know? And then also, she's redoing my implant, which is technically a crown because I was born without one of my, like, lateral teeth. And so anyway, so I'm gonna go. Well, you leave with temporaries, which is what I have right on right now. So these temps are not, like, the real shape and not the real color. Like, they basically are just made to look like your current teeth. But the thing is, they're. They're more flimsy because they're not, like, porcelain. So I already cracked one, which is, like, very common.

[Jordan]

I know. Right before the bridal shower, too.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Or the wedding shower.

[Danny]

The wedding shower. Were you embarrassed?

[Jordan]

No, I wasn't. I. I just. I was worried that you were going to be well, but you handled it fine.

[Danny]

The thing is, I. Because these are temporaries, they don't. Your bite doesn't align just perfectly, so you kind of have a lisp. Yeah, because my teeth are not, like, hitting in the right spots.

[Jordan]

So where do they usually hit?

[Danny]

Like, they usually. Like, my bite is usually, like, very natural. Like, the teeth just, like, fit.

[Jordan]

I guess if I, like, talk like this.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

It's, like, too.

[Danny]

Because there's air in the. In between when my mouth is supposed to be closed.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

And, like, I can't close my bite all the way. But it's only going to be like this for, like, 10 days until I go get the permanents, and then the permanents will, like, the bite will be perfect.

[Jordan]

Got it.

[Danny]

So, yeah. And so then I cracked one, which is also kind of, like, making it sound like. And she said she would fix it for me, but I don't care enough if it was like a front tooth cracked, like.

[Jordan]

Well, we almost turned around the Uber and went back. Yeah, I know you were debating it.

[Danny]

I was debating it.

[Jordan]

But you had been in that chair for eight hours.

[Danny]

I know. And I just, like, it's temporary, so it's like I can live with a cracked tooth for like 10 days. It's not that big of a deal.

[Jordan]

Not a big deal.

[Danny]

So. So yeah, I thought I would answer some of the questions I was getting about veneers. The main question is, like, about cost, because everybody, everyone wants to know how much they cost. So it really just depends on, like, your treatment plan. But I would just say, like, each tooth is about $2,000, so if you get four done, it's going to be about 8,000. If you get 10 done, you can do the math. Like, it's. It's pretty crazy, but it's. You know, I would say if I was like a lit. Like a lot smarter, maybe I would have been a cosmetic dentist or just

[Jordan]

like a plastic surgeon.

[Danny]

No, because dentistry is like less bloody scary. Like, plastic surgery is like a little too intense. I would never do that.

[Jordan]

I don't know, because you should have seen what I experienced. It was pretty wild. Come here, you sweet boy. Come here. Just sit with me. Just sit with me. Oh, your pants are coming off.

[Danny]

Jordan wants to hang out with Stratton while he works, and it's just a lot more idealistic in our minds of how it would go. Jordan just thinks like a four year old boy is just gonna sit in his lap for an hour while he podcasts.

[Jordan]

Well, he sits me when I watch TV or like whenever I want to do anything else.

[Danny]

The poor kid has nothing to do here.

[Jordan]

No, baby, he's having so much fun. Okay, we gotta go to the bookstore after this.

[Danny]

Oh, what are y' all gonna get?

[Jordan]

I don't know, whatever he wants. A book, Probably a new Iron man book.

[Danny]

That'd be sweet. You know, we need to work on our numbers.

[Jordan]

A toy.

[Danny]

So you talk about how you want to homeschool your kids, but you don't.

[Jordan]

Well, I would say this. This would be the hardest part. For sure.

[Danny]

They would be. You realize they'd be home all the time.

[Jordan]

No, I know four of them. I just don't understand. I don't understand how you would.

[Danny]

Well, you can't work.

[Jordan]

Yeah, no, it's crazy.

[Danny]

What was I talking about?

[Jordan]

Well, you're talking about Homeschooling. And then you were talking about the cost of veneers. The cost of veneers?

[Danny]

Yeah. So veneers are very expensive. I don't know, I just feel like it's. After four kids, I was like grinding the heck out of my teeth and I was like, what's something that I can do for a little glow up? I was trying to look smacks.

[Jordan]

Yeah. No, ever since you found clavicular.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You've kind of made fun of him, but you've also adopted some of his principles.

[Danny]

No, I just like one principle which is like, I don't know, I just looks.

[Jordan]

Maxing.

[Danny]

Logging a little self care. Little. Still have care after four babies. So. So yeah, I'm going back in in about a week and I'll get the final version. So I'm really excited about that.

[Jordan]

One other observation about you lately is I feel like you've, you're. You're really dialed in.

[Danny]

Really?

[Jordan]

Yeah, I can tell you're like, you're getting like excited about other things. Like you're feeling better. You're waking up at 5:45am I know, I know.

[Danny]

I'm like back to my, my normal. So when I'm pregnant or postpartum, I'm usually depressed and so I usually sleep a lot and not depressed because the babies. I just physically feel really sick and then it makes me sad and then I get depressed. But I naturally like Danny at her core is like a very, like, I'm a morning person. I'm very active. I have lots of energy throughout the day. And it's just been a long time since I've like felt like myself.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

And so I have been waking up at 5:45 every morning. Like I'll go to bed at midnight or I'll go to bed at 8pm and I wake up at 5:45. And so yeah, I'm back. I'm back to my normal self.

[Jordan]

What's on your mind though? Because I see the, the, the not. I see the focus in your eyes, but I actually don't know what's. What you're focused on.

[Danny]

Well, we're moving to Nashville.

[Jordan]

That's true. That's. That's taking up a lot of your capacity.

[Danny]

So I have not had like a big project since probably like, I don't know, coming up with like this new divi launch. Like my projects are usually like around divi and then once that's done, then I don't really have any projects, you know, at home. Like, I don't really have too much on my plate these days besides, like, just. It's kind of just, like, showing up every day for my kids, but that's not, like. That's just, like, being consistent. But my next project, like, big project is this house. And so I've never really done, like, home content or, like, home projects. And so I am discovering how much I love it. Like, it's so fun. I'm learning so much about, like, just how homes are built or, like, you know, like, the rules of, like, interiors or construction. And, like, it's just. It's so fun. I'm having a blast with it. And I'm learning, like, all about, like, different materials and, you know, like, just, like, the little details about a home that you never really notice. It's. It's just been fascinating.

[Jordan]

So last night, we went to the Taylor Swift orchestra, and I could tell you're. You were there, but, like, your mind was, like, turning on something else. Was it the house?

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I know. That's what I feel.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I totally get it. You're so excited about it. It's, like, all you think about.

[Danny]

It's all I think about. I'm, like, so excited about it.

[Jordan]

I know. The funny thing about Danny's vision for this home is he thinks it's my

[Danny]

vision and my taste is crazy.

[Jordan]

It's crazy. He thinks it's, like, crazy.

[Danny]

No, he think he's like, this house is gonna be crazy. It's so eclectic. It's so crazy. And I think it's just because, like, most homes you see nowadays are just, like, neutral. Like, and they're beautiful, you know, neutral with, like, linens and, like, tans and wood and stone.

[Jordan]

So whatever you think is normal, it's the opposite of that.

[Danny]

I. I don't think my taste is, like, that crazy, but it's. I just get so sick of seeing, like, the same thing over and over again. Like, I really want it to be unique, and I've always loved color. Like, I want it to be like ours. Like, I don't want it to look like another house on Instagram. I want to be like, oh, that's Danny's house.

[Jordan]

No, for sure.

[Danny]

I'm.

[Jordan]

I'm all about it. It's gonna be you. Like, you remember when Kendall Jenner did that architecture? Architectural Digest. What was it over? It was her cabin.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

In Aspen or whatever. And, like, it was very polarizing. You had some people that really liked it, and then you had some people that really didn't like it. I feel like that's what's gonna happen here.

[Danny]

But I think that's kind of my goal is like, I. I feel like if it is for everyone, then it's not for me.

[Jordan]

No, I love that.

[Danny]

So I want it to be like, oh, I love it, but you don't love it. And that's. That's okay, because it's like, that means that it's, like, my flavor, or as

[Jordan]

what she said to me, if you don't love it, then you're wrong. Because I. When we started going over the mood

[Danny]

board with this designer buzzkill, when it

[Jordan]

comes to, like, interior, it was like, you, designer, and then, like, three other females in the room. And I remember coming in and being like, oh, yeah, I don't. I don't really.

[Danny]

He's like, I like this, and I like this art, and I like this. And I'm like, no, you don't. And he's like, no, I really do. I'm like, no, you don't. You just don't know better.

[Jordan]

No, I've. I've been totally cut out. This is how it probably should be. I've been. I've been completely cut out, and you're

[Danny]

not completely cut out. I. You're doing your own office, babe.

[Jordan]

You. This is. What's crazy is Danny's never done this

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to me in our entire marriage.

[Jordan]

She hasn't even invited me to the group chat. Yeah, he's not. She won't invite me to the group chats with the builder or with the designer. And I was like, man, that's how. But I. I don't care, because I love that you're excited about it.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Like, I. Look, it's like, all I knew was like, God wanted our family in Nashville. This is one of those things where I'm like, you do you, boo boo.

[Danny]

Yeah. I had a FaceTime with Catherine this morning. The. The interior designer, she's the one that actually, like, designed the home, and she was walking me through the house, and I'm like, oh, we need to change that here. We need to do these type of outlets here. Like, I. And I'm. I. I feel like with home, I've always. With homes, I've always had, like, zero confidence in, like, my decisions. Like, before I make a decision, I have to, like, go research for 10 hours about something. And now I'm just like, no, wait. I know what I like, and I know what I want.

[Jordan]

And so you honestly might become a female home builder?

[Danny]

I don't know if I. You know what? I. I. I don't know. If I would be a home builder. But I think that one of my goals now is I would like to, like, renovate, like, a small. A small home in. In Nashville and just, like, get my feet wet.

[Jordan]

I think that you. What I'm kind of learning about you in this current state era is you need an outlet.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Like, you need something to pour the excess energy into.

[Danny]

Because I'm, like, a very creative person, but it's not in the ways that you would think. Like, I'm not creative in, you know, like, art or, like, I can't dance or I can't sing, or I can't, like, express myself in those ways. But the way that I used to express myself was, like, probably through editing. Like, back in the day, like, when I first started doing and I used to edit in, like, it was kind of like, my thing, but now I don't really have, like, that thing, you know, and out. Fashion used to be, like, a huge creative outlet for me and that it was the same thing. I was like, if people don't like my outfit, then that means I love it, because it's not for everyone.

[Jordan]

No.

[Danny]

And now I'm like, not. I. I do love clothes and I love fashion, but I'm not, like, as passionate about that as I get older. Like, to me, clothes are more just like. Like, I just. I don't know, I just want to fit in. Like, I just want to, like, wear something that looks cute and nice. But, like, it used to be like a huge, like, oh, my God, I'd spent hours putting together outfits, and now I feel like it's like home. Lately, I've been trying to simplify getting dressed because I feel like the more chaotic life gets, the less I want to overthink or spend a ton of time on outfits. And that's honestly what's great about Quint's pieces. Everything just feels easy to wear while still looking really elevated. Their fabrics honestly surprised me the most. They use things like 100% European linen, organic cotton, and really soft denim, and it all feels much more expensive than you'd expect. I've especially been loving their linen pieces lately because they're lightweight and breathable, but still look really polished. It's the kind of outfit you can wear all day and still feel comfortable in. And their denim was one of those things where I genuinely double checked the price because it has that structured feel that makes it flattering, but it's still soft and easy to move in. What also makes quints different is they work directly with ethical factories and cut out the middlemen so you're paying for the quality itself instead of inflated markup. And everything is priced way lower than similar brands, which honestly makes refreshing your wardrobe feel a lot more realistic. Refresh your everyday with luxury you'll actually use. Head to Quince.com Dani for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. Now available in Canada too. That's Q-U-I-N C E.com Danny for free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com Danny I feel like moving sounds

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[Jordan]

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[Jordan]

No, it's, it's, it's kind of wild. Like you're kind of, you're kind of back.

[Danny]

I'm back.

[Jordan]

You're kind of getting back.

[Danny]

I know.

[Jordan]

It's been so long.

[Danny]

I know.

[Jordan]

I knew it was you. This is who I married.

[Danny]

She's back.

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[Danny]

Jordan like comes in this morning. He's like why are you dressed up? And I'm like, I don't know, I just got dressed for. No, I was like, I'm just wearing clothes. It's cuz I'm usually in sweats every day for the past four years, you

[Jordan]

know, happy wife, happy life. And it's like, you know, past couple years you've been feeling so bad that like I'm just pumped.

[Danny]

I know.

[Jordan]

I'm pumped for your outlet and pumped for your new house. Our new house.

[Danny]

Houses are so our house.

[Jordan]

But your design that I learning to

[Danny]

Jordan was like, all I want to do is like I want to have say with the landscaping and I'm like, okay, like I'll just give him the landscaping and so then we go meet with the landscaper. His name's Houston. And I totally took over that meeting. And I'm like, we're going to need Japanese maples here.

[Jordan]

And I was like, who is this here?

[Danny]

I'm like, privacy fence. No privacy fence. I want to use evergreens Hollies for the privacy fence. Like, and now I'm like, research it. Like, every time I drive by a house, I'm like, I'll take pictures and like, ask Chat gt. I'm like, what kind of tree is this? Or what? But I am doing hydrangeas at our house and I'm so excited cuz I've always wanted to have a house that could. You can't really grow hydrangeas in Texas. Like, our climate's not great for hydrangeas. But I'm going to have hydrangeas at our new.

[Jordan]

Yeah, you know, I got a gym, I got a sauna. I'm good.

[Danny]

Yeah, I'm good.

[Jordan]

I'm in Nashville.

[Danny]

You got your sauna.

[Jordan]

Four Seasons. I'm great.

[Danny]

I am doing turf. I'm doing a swing set in the backyard. A built in trampoline. Yeah, he's going to be kind of sweet. We're not moving to, like, the country country. We're moving into, like, a neighborhood that kind of feels very much like our neighborhood now, except just like, more spaced out.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

And so I'm so excited.

[Jordan]

You know, it's so funny is we've been talking about this a lot. Danny is fully in on Nashville now.

[Danny]

Oh, I'm like, I can't wait.

[Jordan]

110 could be even more in on Nashville than I was.

[Danny]

I think I am.

[Jordan]

I think you are. It's the craziest thing and the funniest thing about this is I just had. We had to have one moment because she's been talking to people about Nashville and I've noticed a lot of the sound bites are my sound bites.

[Danny]

Like what?

[Jordan]

Like, you know, they're just. It's just such a good culture for family, you know, like, we just really want to, like, raise our kids, like, to be like, super, like, down to earth and love Jesus and all this. And I love all the talking points that you're saying, but I had to have one moment where I was like, danny, can you just. Can you just tell me that I was right and she couldn't do it?

[Danny]

I mean, you did do it twice.

[Jordan]

You said, fine, okay, you're right. Let's move on. But I just hear you parading this script about how amazing Nashville Is. And I love it.

[Danny]

It's because I just wanted.

[Jordan]

One moment.

[Danny]

I think I know more about Nashville than you do now.

[Jordan]

Yeah, probably so.

[Danny]

It's because I've also looked. I. I like, did so much research, like, finding the perfect neighborhood and the right areas and all this stuff, and so. And the schools and some of the home schools and so the churches, whatever. So I just feel like I'm not an expert in Nashville. Obviously, I've never, like, lived there, but I've done a lot of research.

[Jordan]

No, for sure.

[Danny]

I already, like, have my kids, like, scheduled for, like, doctors and some of, like, the soccer teams and stuff, so I'm just. Yeah. I'm dreaming.

[Jordan]

Yeah. It's. I will say, though, there was probably, like, how long was I pushing Nashville?

[Danny]

Three years.

[Jordan]

Three years. We visited, I would say, like, really pushing. Like, I really think that, like, we have to do this probably, like, six to 12 months, right?

[Danny]

No, a year and a half ago.

[Jordan]

At least a year and a half ago.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Oh. Anyway, let's just say it was the past year. I will say that when you feel just like, for the wives and husbands out there, there was a period where I was, like, pretty certain that God wanted our family in Nashville. But, like, you and I were not on the same page.

[Danny]

I was like, over my dead body.

[Jordan]

That period was the. The. The scariest, most confusing, hard period of my life, because I was so sure. But, like, it was like. I remember it. I was like, God, how. How are we going to get on the same page about this? And so it's so cool for me now that we are, like, totally on the same page, if, in fact, you're probably more excited than I am. It's like, God is so good. Like, what do I got to worry about?

[Danny]

I know. I know. I mean, I agree. And it's like. Yeah, it's something that I'm so excited about. And not to say Dallas has. Has not served us well. It's served us very well. We've had some amazing things happen in Dallas, and we were both, like, raised in the Dallas area, but I think it's just, like, time for an adventure.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Did I tell you about the lady who stopped me on the street today?

[Danny]

No. Heather. Was she blonde?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Oh, really?

[Jordan]

I don't. I don't know her name, but she. She's like, oh, I heard y' all are moving to Nashville. She was like, we might be right behind you. And I was like, oh, why? Why do you think you want to go to Nashville? And she's like, well, I'm from Tennessee. And she was like, man, I just. And I. She doesn't know anything about us. And I was like. She goes, I just feel like I just always have to be thinking about what car I'm driving and, like, what I'm wearing and, like, you know, like, all the private school scenes and all this stuff. And I was like, oh, yeah, you should come to Nashville.

[Danny]

Yeah, that's. We feel the same thing.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Which, you know, like I said, you can find your pockets in Dallas where you don't feel that pressure. I actually don't feel pressure to, like, be wearing a certain brand or driving a certain car. That's not the pressure. I feel the pressure to work in Dallas.

[Jordan]

Work. Grind.

[Danny]

Like, grind. Yeah. And I was texting Natalie Kennedy this morning, and she was like, oh, just wait. She's like, you're gonna come out here, and you're gonna start where you're at, and then you're gonna come out to the country. You're gonna start with one animal, and then you're gonna have five animals, and then you're gonna start homeschooling. Then you're gonna start doing this. And I was like, I already feel myself being, like, pulled in that direction. She said, it's just, like, a better, slower pace of life.

[Jordan]

Like, no, for sure.

[Danny]

I'm excited.

[Jordan]

I. It's, like, hard for me to wrap my mind around this, you know? Like, you're supposed to.

[Danny]

You.

[Jordan]

You marry, like, a different person every seven years or something. Didn't you tell me?

[Danny]

I think it's 10 years. Yeah.

[Jordan]

Every 10 years, like, I feel like you're entering it. It's, like, the same, Danny, but like, a new. A new evolution. Like, if you. Seeing if you homeschooled our kids or if we homeschooled our kids, that would be so crazy.

[Danny]

I know.

[Jordan]

I would have never been able to bet on that at the beginning of our marriage.

[Danny]

No, never, never, never.

[Jordan]

So great. What a fun time.

[Danny]

But I would like to do, like, a homeschool where they at least are going, like, four days a week.

[Jordan]

Well, yeah, two days a week is not enough. Just even with Stratton up here for

[Danny]

20 minutes, I can't do anything, literally. It's kind of crazy.

[Jordan]

No, I love hanging out with him, but I. Yeah. The reason I had to come up here to take the call is I

[Danny]

was like, well, and when you homeschool, like, you do need. Especially when they're young, like, you need to stay disciplined, like, and make sure that they are doing their work. And doing what they need to be doing because otherwise they fall behind for sure. And that's. That's why I do, like, the schooling system is like, they keep your kids accountable for you. Yeah, kind of. But that's why moms at homeschool are, like, so badass, because it's. It's a lot of work.

[Jordan]

Oh, man.

[Danny]

Yeah. So. So yeah, we're heading to Nashville. That it'll be interesting, you know, the transition, because we're gonna have this home, which we already have furniture here. So we're gonna need to figure out, like, what to do with our furniture here. The home won't be ready. Our home in Nashville probably won't be ready till the fall. And school will start in August, so we need to get down there pretty fast. And so we probably need to find like, a place to rent or, you know, maybe we buy like an investment property. Property. Wait, maybe.

[Jordan]

What if you built it?

[Danny]

No, I don't want to build a home. That's too much. Wait, why don't we get an investment property that we move. Stop.

[Jordan]

Sorry, I thought it was that we

[Danny]

move into and then we move out and we move to our. And then that's the home project that I have that I flip it and sell it.

[Jordan]

There you go. For sure.

[Danny]

Because I'm gonna have all of his free time.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I was gonna say you're gonna have four children and then.

[Danny]

And then I'm homeschooling.

[Jordan]

You're going to be focused on the. The. Our main.

[Danny]

I know, I know. It's maybe not a good idea. I'll think about it.

[Jordan]

Yeah, just think about it.

[Danny]

Just think about it.

[Jordan]

Let's maybe get there first. See how.

[Danny]

Yeah, let's get there. Let's see. Cuz I. Yeah. And I do need to be like, present for my kids, so. So, yeah, that'll be an interesting transition. You know, hopefully people were asking like. Or tornado or Tam Tam, are they going to end up in Nashville? What is, like, your honest answer on that? Like, right now they're saying no, that they're not going to move there. I don't think that that's going to last. I think give them six months.

[Jordan]

Well, so I've always had this dream of a family compound. I think I pressed it.

[Danny]

Do you really want that, though?

[Jordan]

Well, it's going to have to be like a lot of land because we need to be like, spaced out.

[Danny]

Okay. Like 100 acres.

[Jordan]

Yeah, like 100 plus acres. So it's like, you're over here, we're over here. Right and you gotta, like, really want to see us. You gotta hop on the golf cart or something and.

[Danny]

Yeah. You can't just walk over.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And so. Yeah, I've always wanted that. Now, was that, like, something that was divine and called on us? I don't know. But I would say if it were to happen, it was never going to happen here in Dallas, because you think about where would we have gone to get 100 acres? We'd had to, like, move into the deep country, you know, like east, which you would have never gone, north, which we would have never gone. But in Nashville, I could see it, because you know where we're going to be located now. You can get 100 acres, like, 30 minutes from there.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And it's. And it's still. It's still close enough to, like, Franklin, to where you still have, like, access to population and, like, all the cool people that live there.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

So if it's going to happen, it's going to happen there, but I'm not going to push it.

[Danny]

Yeah. We'll just see what happens.

[Jordan]

I. I tried to push it a couple years ago, and I don't think it didn't go well.

[Danny]

It didn't.

[Jordan]

It didn't go well.

[Danny]

Yeah. But I could see it happening.

[Jordan]

I could see it happening. We are going to go, and we're going to have the time of our lives. And then if people want to follow, it's like, doors open.

[Danny]

Well, it's gonna be fun because we're also moving, like, around the time that Olivia is having her baby. Did you notice that?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Like, literally, like, it will be within, like, two weeks, probably, that she has her baby.

[Jordan]

So great.

[Danny]

It's so great.

[Jordan]

So great.

[Danny]

I can't wait to be an aunt. Aunt Dee Dee. That's what I've decided.

[Jordan]

Oh, that's cool.

[Danny]

Yeah. What do you. What. What do you want your name to be? Jordan.

[Jordan]

I've never thought of myself as uncle. It actually just happened in my mind.

[Danny]

Yeah. Oh, wait. Yeah. What do you want to like. Yeah, it's kind of cool.

[Jordan]

Kind of, like, feels similar to when I found gray hairs, if I'm being honest. Whoa.

[Danny]

Like, you're an uncle?

[Jordan]

Yeah, like, I'm old enough to be an uncle.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

I kind of feel a lot of responsibility. I know. It's just kind of like, I'm actually kind of stressed. It's on. On me.

[Danny]

I know. And it's going to be to, like, a little girl.

[Jordan]

Like, I'm just having to figure out. I'm just figuring out, dad, like, Now I gotta. What is that?

[Danny]

And uncle is, like, so much cooler. Like, you just come in for, like, the. The cool parts.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

And so I really want to be, like, the type of aunt that, like, every single time they see me, like, the same thing happens. So, like, maybe I always have lollipops.

[Jordan]

Oh, that's good.

[Danny]

Or like, I always.

[Jordan]

Wow, you've really thought about this.

[Danny]

Yeah. Or like, maybe they call me Chalk Choco or something because I always have chocolates. You know, I just want to be, like, a consistent. Like, I'm, like, known for that one thing.

[Jordan]

Huh.

[Danny]

Or maybe, like, I always have, I don't know, like, gumballs or something. Yeah, like, gumballs would be cool.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Workshop it. You're. You're close.

[Danny]

I'm getting there.

[Jordan]

You're kidding me.

[Danny]

I just need it. Like, I need to see it.

[Jordan]

So you. Wow, you've put a lot. I gotta think about this.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

What should my name.

[Danny]

Or, like, maybe I always take them to, like, the same spot. Like the same ice cream parlor. Or like the same. Or like, maybe I'm like the ant that's known for taking the kids to Six Flags. You know, there's just got. I gotta have, like, my thing.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Okay, well.

[Danny]

And, like, that's what. Honestly, aunts and uncles are not, like, they're not foundational in, like, a kid's life. They're just such, like. It's like, such a. It's an addition. Like, it's like a luxury.

[Jordan]

Right.

[Danny]

To have, like, a cool aunt and uncle present in your life. And so, like. So you just have to. It's just like having, like, sprinkles on top of, like, a family. Like, we're just like, the sprinkles. Maybe I should be called Sprinkle.

[Jordan]

No, I liked what you had, Dee Dee. Yeah. Aunt Dee Dee.

[Danny]

Not Aunt Lolly. And I always. Lollipops.

[Jordan]

I mean, it's cool. It's a commitment. Because if you don't. If you don't follow through with these lollipops, then you're just lolly for no reason.

[Danny]

It's, like, more. It's like, more stressful than it should.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's way more stressful.

[Danny]

No, but what I would do is I would just, like, order, like, a ton of different lollipops. And I'd have, like, a drawer in my house. And then, like, every time kids come over, I always. I'm like, the one with the lollipops.

[Jordan]

I know.

[Danny]

It's just so my mom.

[Jordan]

Really fully committed.

[Danny]

So my mom was known for, like her cheesy dip. We didn't call it queso, we called it cheesy dip. And my mom would always make my friend's cheesy dip. And like, we were known for, like, the house with the cheesy dip. So like, when all my friends came over, it was like, oh, could your mom make her cheesy dip, huh? And then also we were known for we always had starburst jelly beans out on the our table. So when my friends came over, they always knew they could come in and grab a handful of. It was kind of gross because they like, they always got like dust on them.

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[Jordan]

Well, this is a great exercise. I. I would like to know, in. In our new home, do you see us being the home that, like, people come to and, like, hang out at?

[Danny]

You know, it's always so sweet when people think of it that way, but, like, we have so many kids. It's, like, hard, right?

[Jordan]

Like, I. I would like to. We don't really have people over here anymore. Unless it's like a birthday party. We used to, though, because we didn't

[Danny]

have as many kids.

[Jordan]

We didn't have as many kids. But, like, now it's.

[Danny]

I mean, honestly, it's hard. Like, at the end of the day, like, I don't really want people over.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I. I was wondering what your general philosophy was on that.

[Danny]

I really hope we make friends with our neighbors and our neighbors can come over. That's, like, way less of a commitment.

[Jordan]

But, like, would we be like, the. Where it's like, oh, come over for dinner. I've always wanted to be that, but it's. But like, why is it so hard?

[Danny]

Like, do really think about it, though? Like, do you want that?

[Jordan]

Yeah. Because. Because I think the conversation would be really fun. But it's hard to commit to that because when it's five o', clock, it's like.

[Danny]

I know. Especially neighbors are so, like, clutch, like. Like a good neighbor that, like, they can come over but you don't have to, like, host them. Do you know what I mean?

[Jordan]

Yeah. It's like, it's the burden of hosting.

[Danny]

It's the hosting that it's like, so stressful. It's like having food for everyone, drinks for everyone, like, whatever. And when you have a neighbor, like, they just pop, pop over. And, like, you don't have to have crazy things going on. And the neighbor can, like, come into your house and, like, help cook or, like, bring their own food. And it's like, not that big of a deal because they can just walk over when they're done. But when you have, like, fam. People drive over to your home and, like, take time out of, like, a lot of time, other day to, like, come over. Like, I feel like you have to host them.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Like our lake house. Lake house. It's kind of like people just like, pop in, pop out.

[Jordan]

I'm always exhausted after those.

[Danny]

That's what I'm saying.

[Jordan]

So it's a lot.

[Danny]

People are always like, oh, I want to have a home. Or, like, we host. And I'm like, do you, though? Like, I just feel like hosting is, like, for a different era of our lives.

[Jordan]

Okay. That's super fair to say.

[Danny]

Yeah. Hosting is, like, when your kids are older, in my opinion.

[Jordan]

You're so right.

[Danny]

Like, when they're driving themselves to, like,

[Jordan]

and they can sit at the dinner table.

[Danny]

They can sit at the dinner table. They can make themselves food.

[Jordan]

Like, so we don't need to feel guilty about not being.

[Danny]

We're just not in our host era of, like, neighbors. But that's why I moved into a neighborhood. Like, I want neighbors. I want my kids to be able to run over to Sarah's house down the street. Like, I was at my friend's house every single day, and I wasn't feeling like their parents needed to make me dinner. In fact, a lot of times, I go home, have dinner, and then come back.

[Jordan]

Yeah. You know, that's so true.

[Danny]

That's a vibe.

[Jordan]

That's so true.

[Danny]

Yeah. No, we don't need to have, like,

[Jordan]

we're just not in our hosting era.

[Danny]

Totally. Don't worry about it.

[Jordan]

Don't worry. I'm not worried.

[Danny]

I don't have any of the nice crystals. Nothing. I'm not doing that.

[Jordan]

I'm just having, like, because I. I kind of wanted to blame you because I was like, maybe you're just taking hosting, like, too serious. Like, that's, like the Dallas in you. Whereas, like, it could just be like, hey, just come over. Like, we'll figure it out.

[Danny]

You know, the issue is none of our neighbors like us.

[Jordan]

Well, no, no, no, no. I'm just talking about in general, like. Like, because whenever. Because whenever we have people over, whenever we have people over, you're always like, put the drinks out. Do this. And I'm like, hey, the drinks are in the drink.

[Danny]

Because I feel a responsibility that if you made your a family pack up in the car and come over, like, you need to take care of them.

[Jordan]

Yeah. We'll see how other people host in Nashville, and we'll see if we can do it.

[Danny]

Yeah. And it depends on, like, how good you are.

[Jordan]

You know, who's really hospitable.

[Danny]

Let me think. Who?

[Jordan]

Jefferson. Bethy.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And they were super chill about it. They were like, hey, like, we're gonna grab some pizzas.

[Danny]

Come over.

[Jordan]

And they had like.

[Danny]

I do feel like it's a culture thing. I think, like, in Dallas, I do feel, like, a pressure to.

[Jordan]

No. And you know, why have it all perfect? Why? I know that is because I kept being like, hey, man, we're. We'll be there 10 minutes late, 15 minutes later. And I remember he was like, okay.

[Danny]

He's like, you don't need to.

[Jordan]

Yeah. No, when I. When I was there and we were there, it really did feel like we were bringing our Dallas into their city so much.

[Danny]

We got to calm down with that.

[Jordan]

No, so much so that when I. This was a trip you weren't on, but I took. I went to church with the kids.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And he literally goes, you look so Dallas and all. I would, like. Our children were just so, like. I mean, she was in a dress. Stratton was just in a colored shirt. So it's gonna be. It's gonna be a culture shock.

[Danny]

We're gonna have to calm down.

[Jordan]

We're gonna have to chill.

[Danny]

Chill out.

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[Danny]

It's like. Yeah, I know. It's gonna be hard for me to relearn. I know.

[Jordan]

But what I. So the. The idea of hosting that I would love is like, I think there's so many. There's so many interesting people that I have met there, and they. They know. They're interesting in such a variety of different ways. Like, remember when we asked that guy about. I mean, we were asking about Israel and Palestine, and we were like, hey, like, what do y' all know about this? Like, you know, I think it was, like, biblically, and he.

[Danny]

Oh, that guy. Yeah.

[Jordan]

He went on a dissertation.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And I almost was. I. We had to be like, hey, whoa, slow down.

[Danny]

Yeah, it was, like, a lot.

[Jordan]

And people are just like. And then this other guy we met at the. The. The bridal shower, he was like, I have bees.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And he showed us pictures of him in his bees outfit.

[Danny]

Johnson. Sean Johnson, and Andrew just got bees.

[Jordan]

People just like, they're cool. They're so interesting.

[Danny]

I know.

[Jordan]

And so, like, I want those people around my dinner table, you know?

[Danny]

Oh, yes.

[Jordan]

Did you get us a dinner table?

[Danny]

Yes, of course.

[Jordan]

How many people can it sit? I was. I. I gave some input on this, but I don't think anyone. I mean, the designer wasn't listening. No one was listening.

[Danny]

Well, I think it's not like it's like dining room tables. It's, like, usually 10 or so. It's not like we can live with 10. Yeah.

[Jordan]

But we take up. We take up six of the 10.

[Danny]

That's what I'm saying is like our.

[Jordan]

No, we're not in our hosting era.

[Danny]

Yeah. Like, we have a lot of kids.

[Jordan]

Yeah. Okay.

[Danny]

Yeah. That's why I'm making the club room not Like a club room. I'm making, like, a fun kids room.

[Jordan]

That's fair.

[Danny]

I know that's true. Yeah. So what else is going on?

[Jordan]

I mean, that's our life, so. That's our life. Oh, man. We got. We're only at 40, and only 30 of those are real.

[Danny]

What else can we talk about? More about moving, but we don't really have much. Yeah. What. What else is going. What's going on? Like, culturally, what's going on out there?

[Jordan]

I've just been. I've been kind of unplugged from that.

[Danny]

Oh, babe, you've so much to talk about with the book you're reading.

[Jordan]

No, those are. That's the deep tracks.

[Danny]

No. So, okay, like, let me ask you questions about it then, because I'm curious about it. Jordan, A timer that. He has five minutes. You have five minutes to tell us everything about what you're learning in your new book. No, genuinely, I am curious, though, about this new book you're reading. So he's been reading. Oh, I keep on wanting to call it into the realm.

[Jordan]

It's called the Unseen Realm.

[Danny]

The Unseen Realm. Landon told you about it, right?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

So it's basically about spiritual warfare. You gotta tell them the thing that you learned about the sneaky snake.

[Jordan]

Okay, I'll tell you what. The sneaky snake.

[Danny]

The sneaky snake And Adam and Eve. So we've been, like, learning, and I was gonna say experiencing. Learning slash. Experiencing slash. Talking about a lot of spiritual warfare and just, like, how that shows up in our lives. So Jordan bought, like, three or four books. Two were from exorcists, and one was called the Unseen Realm. And he's learned a lot about spiritual welfare warfare and, like, how angels and demons and all of this kind of, like, shows up in people's lives.

[Jordan]

Okay, I'll bite.

[Danny]

So. And here he goes.

[Jordan]

So basically, I would say that you and I were pretty vanilla Western Protestants.

[Danny]

No, I was raised in.

[Jordan]

Sorry. Danny was raised in a charismatic church. But it's not just because you're raised in a charismatic church. I would actually say that made you even more skeptical.

[Danny]

True. I agree with you.

[Jordan]

Danny was a huge skeptical skeptic towards. I would say just.

[Danny]

But I wasn't until I was. I was actually a more extreme. I was very, very charismatic. Until it didn't work for me. And then I became skeptical.

[Jordan]

No, for sure. But I would say because it didn't work for you in that moment, which was a very, like, coerced, manipulated experience that you had when you were, like, how old Were you second grade?

[Danny]

It was my whole life. Oh, growing up in the church.

[Jordan]

But what's that one time maybe tell the story about they locked you in the room and made you.

[Danny]

Okay, so just. I grew up in a church that was very charismatic. And I don't hold any, like, resentment or, or anger or bitterness towards this church at all. Like, because I do believe in miracles and I do believe in spiritual warfare and I do believe in speaking in tongues and, and being slain. I believe in all of that. But this church in particular, like, when I was in second grade, I went to a camp with this church and they put us all in a room and said, like, once we spoke tongues, we could leave. Spoke in tongues. And so I just always, like, was very like. And I do believe that there were kids in that, in that group in second grade speaking in tongues. And I really wanted to be able to access, like, that gift, and I just never could. And so then I always kind of questioned if, like, it was me or my faith wasn't strong enough or if I did something wrong or if it just, like, wasn't supposed to be. And so, like, we were encouraged in my church to like, go out and pray, like, literally. I remember the day my pastor told us, like, if you see a dead frog or dead squirrel on the side of the road, like, right, run over by a car, start practicing your faith and go over and try to raise it from the dead, like, truly. So I would try to do that. There was a frog that died in my backyard and I made like a little ceremony. I'm not even kidding you.

[Jordan]

No, I believe you.

[Danny]

And I got a brick and I wrote like, RIP and I like named it and everything. And I would pray for this frog to, like, come back to life because I genuinely thought that God could give me that power. And I still think that God can. He's God. He can do literally anything he wants. But it just like, I think as I got older, I was like, wait a minute. And I don't think that the church was like, trying to like, harm me or like, I truly think they were trying to like, raise us into these, like, spiritual, Holy Spirit led filled humans, you know, but it just, at a young age, it's very, like, confusing for your faith whenever you're like, totally want something and it doesn't happen to you. They also would pull us up on stage and like, try to heal us, like, in front of everybody. And I think that's really, like, the one thing that I feel, not resentment towards, but I feel like a Little not anger. But, yeah, maybe resentment is the right word. Is like, why are all these things that this church is doing? Why are they always so public? Like, why are they up on stage? Like, why are they pulling everybody up in front of everybody else to perform these quote unquote miracles? Like, why aren't these things. And maybe they were happening more behind the scenes. But that part, it gives me, like, very, like, Joel Osteen, like, or. Who's that guy? The guy that always, like, he's like the, like, Tella pastor evangelist. That's always, like, kind of crazy. I think he's an Indian guy.

[Jordan]

Oh, I don't know.

[Danny]

But anyway, he's, like, always doing that up on stage. And to me, it just seems very theatrical, and it feels very much form for the people and not for God. And so I think that's where I become skeptical as I'm like, okay, who are you really doing this for? You know?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

So. And I never really learned so much about, like. I feel like if you're gonna learn about healing and angels and all this, then you also need to learn about how, like, demonic activity works, too, because they're both real. And I never really learned anything about that. So.

[Jordan]

So did you tell the story? I don't. In that whole thing, did you tell how you went up on stage?

[Danny]

Oh, so. No, I didn't tell that story. So. So one time, I think I was probably, like, in sixth grade, I started to lose my eyesight. Like, I. Not, like, I wasn't, like, lose my eyesight. I just needed glasses. Like, I wasn't going blind. Sorry. I. Like, I guess I was going blind because I couldn't see anything. I couldn't even read, like, the big E at the eye doctor, you know? And so they pulled us up on or they said, you know, does anybody here need healing? And I'm like, in sixth grade, and I'm still, like, a. Like, I believe, like, I am, like, fully bought in. I'm like, God can perform these miracles. He will heal me. My church is awesome. And they're gonna, like, make sure I don't to get into glasses, because I don't want to be in glasses. And so they pulled us up on stage, and I was, like, there with, like, two. Two other kids. And, you know, his name was Pastor Sean, and he, like, prayed over me, like, in front of everyone, and he's like, in the name of Jesus, restore her eyesight, whatever. And I opened my eyes, and he's like, can you see? And I'm like, oh, my God, I can see. And he's like, praise God. Praise Jesus. And everybody's, like, clapping, like, perform. I totally lied.

[Jordan]

Yeah. And then in front of everyone, and then another time, they locked you in a room.

[Danny]

I told that story already.

[Jordan]

Oh, you did?

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Okay.

[Danny]

But. Yeah, so. But here's the thing. And the reason I didn't have resentment, and I think I maybe still don't, is I always felt like it was my fault. And I still question that to this day. I. I still question if, like, sometimes miracles are not happening in my life in the ways that I would think that they would happen because I don't have enough faith. Like, I still question that.

[Jordan]

Well, I think, like. Or you don't feel like you're. It's like. It's like, miracles for thee, but not for me.

[Danny]

Well, and, like, here's another, like, perfect example. So, like, I. They. Every single Sunday, they would do an altar call, which is essentially where you, like. You ask Jesus to, like, be your Lord and Savior. You ask him to enter your heart and that you believe that he died for your sins. And you basically, once you accept Jesus into your heart like that, you are eternally saved and you can go. And, like, when we die, you will go live in heaven. And, babe, when I tell you that I accepted Jesus in my heart 15 times, like, I. Literally every single Sunday. And he. He would get on stage, he's like. And if that's you, and if you feel that tugging in your heart and you feel like Jesus is like. And I'd be like, oh, shit. I don't know if it really worked last week. I'm like. And I raised my hand. I mean, I gave my life to Jesus 15 times. I still think about it to this day. Like, they'll do altar calls, and, like, they were doing a Baptist. I've been baptized, like, five times. No, I'm not even kidding. And, like, they did it at our church last weekend. And I was like, shoot. I was like, do I need to go up there and be baptized again? Like, I am always questioning if it's enough. Like, it's just never enough in my eyes.

[Jordan]

Yeah, no, totally. I used to do kind of a version of that, but this is so, like, weird. But when I would pray, I was worried that amen wasn't enough.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And I don't know how this happened. I was in.

[Danny]

Just to be clear, instead of amen, you're like, amen.

[Jordan]

No, no. I think I was in, like, fourth or fifth grade, because I remember being at Sky Ranch, and for Some reason I was like, amen. And then I felt like I had to say send like an email. And so I'd always be like, I'd be like, hey, amen. Send, send, amen. And it became like a psychosis thing. But that's probably just like an email

[Danny]

that like you haven't. You're like, I wrote out the prayer, but I don't know if I.

[Jordan]

It was like around aol and I was like, send, send, amen. I was like, maybe that

[Danny]

I did. Oh, that's hilarious. It's like the prayer doesn't work unless you like say it out loud.

[Jordan]

Like for sure. So I, I get that, I get that. But basically I would say that that all created a lot of skepticism in you towards the supernatural. Fair, sorry, Supernatural for you?

[Danny]

No, it's not against the supernatural. It's skepticism against churches in the way that we deal with the supernatural. I believe the supernatural. I always have.

[Jordan]

Yeah. But like for thee, not for me. Like, I feel, I feel like you. So this is kind of the, the reason I'm poking at this is I feel like this is like a big point of the book is like Western Christians have like, they believe with their heads the supernatural. And let's just say supernatural is a broad term for like spiritual warfare or angels and demons and, you know, God being, you know, omnipresent, all that. But with our hearts and with our day to day reality, we have really kind of just focused on like the physical material world that's in front of us.

[Danny]

I agree. I think the best way to say it is I am skeptical with how we interact with the spiritual.

[Jordan]

Yes. Okay.

[Danny]

I feel that because I believe in it and I know that it happens. But I, I also, I wouldn't say I'm skeptical, but I would say what I struggle most with in my faith is prayer. Like not prayer in that like I will pray every night and ask, but believing that God actually will act off of my prayers.

[Jordan]

Yes.

[Danny]

I always feel like things are going to happen a certain way whether I pray about it or not.

[Jordan]

Totally.

[Danny]

But I'll pray about. I'll pray to show God that I'm okay with his way, good or bad. So it's more of like an act of like surrender and just saying like, God, I know whatever's going to happen to me is going to happen to me. I know that even if I pray to you, it's not going to change. But like, just, you know, I trust you, whatever.

[Jordan]

But I feel like the danger with that mentality because I think we Both adopted that. The danger with that mentality is that it's almost like what's going to happen is going to happen. There's no, like, intercession that we can do. So we kind of lose the relational side of communicating and communing with God. And then anything bad that happens, it's like, oh, well, like, that was going to happen, right?

[Danny]

Yeah, I feel that way.

[Jordan]

And so what. I feel like we got really good at that. God broke us of. Was assuming that all the good was from us and all the bad was, like, also from us. Does that make sense? It's like we just so. So the supernatural, for us, like, even, like, prayer and communion with God became very watered down. Right?

[Danny]

Yeah. Because it doesn't seem as, like, dire.

[Jordan]

It doesn't seem as dire.

[Danny]

It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. I basically believe the opposite of the prosperity gospel, which is, like, kind of depressing.

[Jordan]

The opposite of the prosperity gospel, like,

[Danny]

the prosperity gospel is like, you pray for it, God will give it to you. You become a Christian, you become rich. I'm like, to the extreme. The other way.

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

Like, I. I become a Christian, you will suffer. Like, you.

[Jordan]

I remember always being like. Like, Danny, I feel like God was telling me this, and you would. You would even go as far as saying, like, yeah, I don't think. I don't think God works like that. But it would be over something like. Like, oh, man. Like, I think that this cool thing happened, and I feel like it was just like God that opened the door. And you would say things like, no, I don't feel like God works like that, you know, because, yeah, you said it about one thing, and I can't remember, but it was like, that's what I feel like happened. And so where is it going with this? So I think that we both, like. The whole point of this book is, like, Western Christians in particular, you know, we're bombarded with, like, the news media. We're bombarded by, like, our physical reality. We're, like, all on social media, and it basically makes, like, life just constrained to, like, the physical material world, which is, like, our senses.

[Danny]

Right.

[Jordan]

Well, we can see, get, gain, comprehend, et cetera. But this book is really cool. It's called the Unseen Realm, and it goes through the same scripture that we've always read, but it just, like, tries to open your mind to a. More like, there's a physical realm, which is, like, our reality, and then there's a spiritual realm, which is. Which is like, all the things that we read about. In the Bible, but we just kind of like, overlook it.

[Danny]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

And so it's like the world of angels and demons and.

[Danny]

Fallen angels.

[Jordan]

Fallen angels. And, like.

[Danny]

Like the fact that Satan used to be. Wasn't it, like, God's favorite angel or something?

[Jordan]

Well, I think that's like, the traditional view, but it never. I don't think it says in the Bible that he was, like, his favorite angel. It refers to, like. So. So what's interesting about this book is it mostly spends the time in Genesis and it, like, recaps, like, a lot of, like, the Hebrew and, like, what. How translations have changed.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And one of the most interesting things that I was telling you about that I thought you thought was interesting was that Satan is used a lot in the Bible, but the Hebrew term Satan is just like, opposer. Right. So, like, opposition. So pushing against something. But then there was like, the Satan that became, like, basically, you know, hell.

[Danny]

And like, he. So he wasn't his favorite angel, but he was just one that started to go against God.

[Jordan]

I think that there's like. Yeah, yeah. He was like.

[Danny]

Okay, wait. Isaiah 14 talks about the fall of Lucifer or the morning star.

[Jordan]

The morning star. That was it.

[Danny]

Though the passage is directly about the king of Babylon and is also interpreted by many Christians as symbolically referring to Satan. Ezekiel 28 describes someone who was in Eden beautiful and exalted before becoming prideful again. It directly addresses the king of Ty. Tyra, but is often seen as having a deeper parallel to Satan. Revelation 12 describes Satan being cast down from heaven after rebelling against God. Interesting.

[Jordan]

Yeah. So.

[Danny]

Well, you're just.

[Jordan]

No, sorry, I was, like, daydreaming. But the. Yeah, I. I don't know how too deep I want to go into this, but it's an awesome book, and it's really helped me sort of open my eyes to the fact that, like, there's almost like, two. There's two parallel things happening here. There's like, the physical realm and there's a spiritual realm. And I would say that unfortunately, and fortunately, like, what we feel like we've experienced over the past, like, one to three years is more like the warfare side of the spiritual realm. Like, there's been just things that have happened to us that I'm. That cannot be explained by any consequence of our actions or anything like that, but has felt truly like spiritual warfare on our family across a variety of different areas. And I think that.

[Danny]

Can I ask you something?

[Jordan]

Yeah.

[Danny]

So do you feel like it's just our family experiencing spiritual warfare, or do you feel like everyone experiences it.

[Jordan]

So I think that, I think that everyone is susceptible to experiencing it. I think that there are doorways or portals where spiritual warfare can come in and attack your family. Like, the most basic form of that is just saying, like, sin, you know, like if you perpetually are acting within a certain state, like porn. Sure, porn. Or drinking or addiction or infidelity or adultery. Like, we all kind of classically boards Ouija boards. Like, we all classically know those as like doorways into, hey, like, as you sin, like your life is going to continue to be destroyed.

[Danny]

So it's kind of like, okay, if you watch porn, then you're saying like, the demons see that and they're like, oo, now he's vulnerable, we're going to go attack.

[Jordan]

I think like Christianese or like Western Protestantism would say that's a foothold. Like, that's like a foothold that or demons can use to act against you.

[Danny]

So then my question is, since everyone

[Jordan]

sins, because it's like, can I tell you the progression? It's like, okay, you know porn, like, like, I've heard so many stories like this. Like, started with pornography, then escalated into, oh, I'm having an affair, then escalated into, I hate myself so much, so then I'm gonna like, start drinking. Escalated into like, now I'm divorced, then it's suicide. And I think the ultimate end of every demon is if you are close to deliverance, they would rather destroy you.

[Danny]

So then my question is, do you feel like everyone experiences spiritual warfare because everybody sins?

[Jordan]

My belief is that I think that some are like, based on sin. But then I think, honestly, I think other, other aspects of spiritual warfare can be generational. So there's like this, there's this famous author, John Mark Comer. He wrote like the Ruthless Elimination. So he was like, just like a Protestant pastor writer. So didn't really have any, like, theology around. Supernatural spiritual warfare. Just like, wasn't that guy similar to us and his wife? I, I, I don't remember the details of the podcast, but there's a, there's a podcast episode called the Exorcist Files with his wife. And his wife also was like, yeah, we don't like do deliverance ministry or spiritual warfare or anything like that, but she was super sick and like, no doctor could figure out what was wrong with her. And long story short, they found out that it was like, I'm butchering these details, but like, her grandfather had an affair with a witch who then like created this kind of generational curse. And they, like, this deliverance minister, like, uprooted that evil spirit and that demon, and she was never sick again after that, you know? And so it's like, I think some of it. And there's a big thing with, like, Freemasons, which. Did you remember when we had that p. We interviewed that Freemason on our podcast?

[Danny]

Yeah, he was. Wait, on our podcast.

[Jordan]

Yes, we called in.

[Danny]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jordan]

I'd have never done that these days. I would have never. I would have never.

[Danny]

Oh, he was a nice guy.

[Jordan]

No, super nice guy.

[Danny]

Both of my grandfathers were Freemasons.

[Jordan]

No, I know. So, like. Like, could. I think any, like, exorcist or pastor you would talk to would be like, hey, like, there's a link there that, like, could be generational spiritual warfare because, like, the higher you get up into Freemasonry, like, but I just don't understand,

[Danny]

like, why would it only enter there when, like, everyone struggles with sin? So everybody would experience generational sin.

[Jordan]

So the craziest thing about this book

[Danny]

is, like, if your mom had a temper, then that's generational sin. If your dad was an alcoholic, that's generational sin. Like, if you and everyone sin, so everybody has something that passes down to them.

[Jordan]

I can't answer it. And it sounds crazy to, like, our Western ears and eyes, but, like, look at Biblically, how big God was on, like, bloodlines, right? Like, the descendants of Cain, the descendants of Abel, the descendants of Seth, the descendants.

[Danny]

That was before Jesus.

[Jordan]

What do you mean?

[Danny]

Yeah, because then I feel like Jesus comes, comes in and makes everything, like, die for your sin so, like, you can instantly be forgiven so that, you know. So it's not so much about, like, generations. It's more about, like, your heart.

[Jordan]

Yeah, but I think this, like, I think the spirit.

[Danny]

That's why everything's not so legalistic anymore, is because of Jesus.

[Jordan]

But I don't think it's legalistic. I think it's about, like, warfare within the spiritual realm, like, based on different bloodlines or generational sins or, you know, what have you. We just call it different things. Like, oh, like, you know, my grandpa was an alcoholic, so I am an alcoholic. Like, we call it different things. And we try medical now.

[Danny]

It's like, oh, my mom was depressed, so I'm depressed.

[Jordan]

Yeah, it's almost. It's all material. It's all medical. And what's crazy is, like, if you read this book, we might be saying the same things just in, like, it's almost like we're both. We're both pointing at the same thing but from two different directions.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

You know, and so it's really. It's really kind of like open minds. Kind of blown my mind, to be honest.

[Danny]

Do you believe everything in the book?

[Jordan]

No, I. I don't. But I don't, like, think about things like that. I like.

[Danny]

You just like to learn.

[Jordan]

I just like to learn. And I like to be like, okay, like, I think that some of these ideas are right. Some of these ideas are right. And like, I like to come.

[Danny]

Or maybe, maybe. And maybe you don't know.

[Jordan]

Or maybe I don't know.

[Danny]

Yeah, maybe it's just like, it could be that way or this way.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I'm always like, more open to like reading things and trying to understand where someone's coming from. I don't feel like you are. If I really don't, like, I kind of have to like, like, really wait before I teach you something because I can never really work it out in my head because you're like, no, no, no, that's not, that's not true. I like to bring you baked ideas or like, things. I'm like, really? Like, what was the one thing we fought about for like three episodes? Oh, that podcast.

[Danny]

Which one?

[Jordan]

The telepathy tapes.

[Danny]

Oh, dude, that is so fake.

[Jordan]

Dude, you got like, you got really so fake.

[Danny]

Yeah, they're literally in the background. The moms are like.

[Jordan]

But I'm always like.

[Danny]

And you're like, they're reading their minds and the mom's like.

[Jordan]

I'm like, what if, like, let's just talk about this. Let's just work it out, you know? I'm with you on that one. Okay, so what if demonic?

[Danny]

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe I. I am a little stubborn.

[Jordan]

Yeah, I concur.

[Danny]

I have a very.

[Jordan]

But it's so weird because you're so sweet. I like, don't get it. It's like, you're so sweet, but you can be so hard headed and I wouldn't even. It's so weird. It's like not even pride. It's like, I wouldn't even call it pride. It's just like stubborn.

[Danny]

Well, I think it. I think it.

[Jordan]

You don't like things that are not your idea? I don't think.

[Danny]

Oh, really? That would probably be pride though.

[Jordan]

Yeah, but it doesn't. It at least doesn't come across as pride. Maybe I just interpret you as a very sweet person.

[Danny]

I think that it's because when it comes to spiritual warfare or faith. I've told you this before it's like some of the conversations I feel like we've had that puts, it puts like so much merit or weight on generational sin or curses or things that like just happened to someone that they didn't ever like receive that or mean to receive that yet it just happened. And, and I do, I do believe that some things just like happen, happen. But it, and the way that like sometimes you explain people having to deal with it, it just makes, it puts so much weight on like the person when I just have always believed God or Jesus to be like this. So powerful that it over overpowers like generational sin or walking into a room where some, or like there's a Ouija board in the room so you like, I feel like you would be like, don't walk in there, the Ouija board's in there and I'd be like going to pray before I walk in there cuz God's going to protect me and Jesus protects me from that. And like no matter what, whatever is going on in that person will not happen to me because Jesus is protecting me and I believe that he's greater.

[Jordan]

Yeah, we're saying the same thing.

[Danny]

I know, I know, but it just, sometimes the conversation puts so much power back onto like your self will. I feel like that it becomes transactional or becomes like legalistic and I don't like looking at it like that.

[Jordan]

I see the, I, yeah, you, you've, you've said that like a couple times and I actually don't think that's what I'm saying at all. Think that like the progression in my head is like, okay, there are things and forces that like, are so beyond like our realm, if you will. And like it's spiritual warfare. And so therefore I have no choice but to like have my faith that like God can deliver me or us from. Yeah, so it's more of like an, it's like an acknowledgment of like, okay, this is, this is real. So therefore the only way I can survive this is by like knowing and trusting Jesus.

[Danny]

Do you ever feel overwhelmed by how much we have to ask God to forgive us?

[Jordan]

No, because I feel like, like do

[Danny]

you ask God to forgive you for your sins every day?

[Jordan]

No, probably not.

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I do, I see.

[Jordan]

I, I, this is what I'm saying though. I think like, so it's like, but

[Danny]

then I'm always like, how is it ever enough? Because like what if I sin right before I die and I didn't have time to ask for forgiveness?

[Jordan]

But I think this Is like. What I'm saying is that's where, like,

[Danny]

the legalism, I feel like, plays. It, like, comes in where I'm like, wait, it'll never be good enough.

[Jordan]

Well, that's what's so confusing is because I feel like you actually are like, oh, like, that's super legalistic. But I feel like that is.

[Danny]

Is. No, I know. That's.

[Jordan]

That's so legalistic.

[Danny]

No, I know. I agree with you that that is legalistic. I think I was thinking about. Because, like. Like, you also have been telling me more. And I had a conversation with my hair stylist who's Catholic, and he was talking about, like, the seven sacraments and, like, you know, just going in and asking or sitting in front of a priest and. And doing. What do you call it when you conf. Confession. And I'm always like. Because, like, I. That's one thing I learned as, like, a little girl. I always ask God at the end of the day to forgive me for my sins. And I've been doing that, like, lately. But it started freaking me out again because I'm like, oh, my God. It's, like, never enough.

[Jordan]

I. I know, but isn't that, like. Okay, the one most interesting thing about your past, present, and future of your faith is it all boils down to, like, one thing. And this is also something that just outside of your faith, it boils down to, too, which is like. Like, you believing that you're good enough. Okay, but not good enough to, like, save yourself. But, like, you are like, I feel like there's this lie that loops in your head, and it's like, I'm not good enough, and I have to do this, and I have to strive, and I have to be this and I have to do this. And it just, like, loops. It loops in, like, motherhood. It loops in, like, probably our marriage. It loops in your faith and your relationship with Jesus. It just loops. And my opinion is that, like. And, like, if you were to stop that loop, that's, like, the number one thing that I feel like God wants for you.

[Danny]

Yeah, I agree with that. You know, I feel pretty good about myself right now.

[Jordan]

No, I do, for sure. But, like, even just now, you were like, oh, I have to, like, pray for forgiveness. Like, what if? What if? What if? And I just don't think that.

[Danny]

Well, I was just trying to have a conversation because sometimes that does come in my. My mind where I'm like, it can't. That's why I don't believe it's legalistic, because or, like, I. I don't believe I have to do that every day because I'm like, it will never be enough. Like, I'll never.

[Jordan]

No, for sure.

[Danny]

Yeah. Like, I'm agreeing with you. Like, it's silly that I think that way.

[Jordan]

No, it's for sure, because we're never.

[Danny]

I know. It's like, when people, like, are like, oh, you have to be saved by good works. It's like, you'll never be good enough. Like, you'll just have to literally become a nun.

[Jordan]

But even then.

[Danny]

But even then.

[Jordan]

Even then, you're not.

[Danny]

It's impossible.

[Jordan]

It's impossible.

[Danny]

I know.

[Jordan]

So this is why I'm looking forward to moving to Nashville.

[Danny]

Because we'll just have so many more. So many more conversations like this.

[Jordan]

No, for sure. And I think that, like, we'll slow

[Danny]

down enough to have the conversation.

[Jordan]

Well, okay, listen, like, I don't want to make this too deep, but, like, I really do feel like. And I'm not blaming cities or geographic places.

[Danny]

It's probably just habits we've established.

[Jordan]

Well, even our neighbor. Even our neighbor coming to me and saying, like, hey, like, there's a culture here where you have to, like, strive and work and, like, get this car and do this. And, like. Like, that's literally the antithesis of what Natalie Kennedy told you Nashville is. And I think that, like, for you and I, we built two incredibly successful businesses here. We built four beautiful children. Built. But, like, we built all of these things. And I think at the end, both of you got. Both you and I got to this point where we were like, it's never going to be enough.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

Like, and I remember this because I was talking to, like, one of our friends, and I was like, dude, I just, like, feel like I can't keep up in the city. And they were like, it's crazy if you guys feel like that. We all feel like that, you know? And it just was never going to be enough. And I think that when you look at, like, Natalie Kennedy being, like, you want to slow down, and, like, it's just this idea of, like, kind of being. And, like, it's not about our accomplishments. It's not about our accolades. Those will still come. Like, we'll still work, and I'm sure we'll be super successful and, like, still do business and stuff like that. But I don't know if we've gone through a season or we've allowed for ourselves to go through a season of, like, being like, hey, like, we have enough. We are good enough. Like, and we are worthy enough for friendship, for the Lord to, like, love us, like, etc, for just being us.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

And I. I'm gonna be honest.

[Danny]

I hope people like me, without all my accomplishments. So easy to hide behind.

[Jordan]

They are so easy to hide behind here. I know, I know. They're so easy to hide behind. But then it's like, huh? You know? But I think that once.

[Danny]

I think there's also so many famous people in Nashville that, like, people like, okay, don't care.

[Jordan]

But I think that, like, once. Once you give that up or once we give that up, it's gonna be weird. We're gonna be like, why? Why did it take us this long?

[Danny]

I know.

[Jordan]

Like, we could have been.

[Danny]

I know.

[Jordan]

We could have just been hanging out,

[Danny]

chilling, like we were in Austin. Remember how much. No.

[Jordan]

We were grinding in Austin.

[Danny]

No, we weren't. We were at the lake with your dog every day.

[Jordan]

But, babe, we were under the illusion that we were grinding. We didn't even know what grinding looked like until we moved to the city.

[Danny]

That's true.

[Jordan]

But you know why? Because in Austin, you at least had things to do outside here.

[Danny]

Yeah.

[Jordan]

It's like all you can do is grind.

[Danny]

Yeah, we love to grind. Grind and eat and shop. Grind and eat and shop.

[Jordan]

Grind, eat, shop, consume. More, more, more.

[Danny]

I do love a hear, though. Yeah, I do. Well, anyway, so, yeah, we will probably be moving to Nashville in a couple months. It's crazy. We just gotta find a rental. If anybody's renting a house that can hold a family of six, let us know. But anyway, thanks for listening to this podcast, and I guess we'll talk to you next week. Bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.