Why Moving to Nashville Changed Everything

Summary

De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan Episode: Why Moving to Nashville Changed Everything Date: July 16, 2026 Host: Dear Media

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Episode Overview

In this candid episode, Dani and her husband Jordan reflect on their recent move from Dallas to Nashville and how it has fundamentally shifted their personal, family, and professional lives. Blending humor, vulnerability, and their signature back-and-forth banter, the couple explores Nashville’s culture, recounts memorable moments from their new life, discusses building a sense of community, and even dives into American history, parenting, and influencer industry insider talk. The episode offers both heartfelt revelations and entertaining tangents, making it both relatable and enlightening for listeners curious about making a big move, reinventing routines, or simply seeking a fresh perspective on modern family life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Adjusting to Nashville Life

• First Impressions of Nashville [00:22–03:26]

  • Dani describes their new podcast studio in Nashville as a chance to “get out of the house more,” joking about wearing real clothes and makeup now.
  • Jordan shares encounters with local listeners, noticing many are couples:

    “People who listen to this podcast are like husband and wife couples. I never knew that.” [02:13]

• Nashville's Community Vibe [04:07–05:51]

  • The couple recalls their first Independence Day party in Tennessee, describing idyllic countryside, green hills, and warm welcomes:

    “Nashville is beautiful. It’s hilly, it’s lush... you see fireworks going off... white picket fences.” – Jordan [04:40–05:11]

• Small Acts, Big Impact [08:13–09:43]

  • Dani humorously admits to exchanging numbers with everyone but prefers to be “pursued” for follow-ups.
  • She’s surprised to be invited to a Bible study led by Lisa Bevere, reflecting on the lasting influence of Christian communities and authors.

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Reflections on Happiness, Change & Parenting

• The Reset Effect [19:16–20:06]

  • Dani and Jordan discuss how moving gave them a unique “fresh start”:

    “I do feel like there is something to say about a fresh start and... starting off on the right foot, I think is... kind of life-changing for us.” – Dani [20:06]

• Parenting & Community in Nashville [22:23–25:53]

  • Hosting and attending gatherings are much more child-inclusive; hosts are completely unfazed by kids being kids.
  • Jordan notes:

    “It’s more culturally ingrained that kids are involved in everything here.” [25:46]

  • Dani jokes about Nashville’s abundance of kid-friendly features, even at Target and public restrooms.

• Letting Go of Perfection [29:06–30:45]

  • Dani shares her philosophy of wanting to be a “good guest”—cleaning up after her four children when invited out, and her anxiety over the chaos kids can bring.
  • But in Nashville, hosts seem to embrace the mess and help out naturally.

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House Talk, Budgeting & Personal Quirks

• Temporary Home Living [37:38–40:38]

  • The family is in a temporary home; Dani points out how features like crown molding and a safe, set-back lot contribute to a greater sense of peace.

• House Building & Design Dilemmas [42:11–43:35]

  • Dani’s design process is comically over budget:

    “The budget just keeps on increasing.” – Dani [42:59]

  • She pokes fun at the “girl math” that goes into rationalizing expensive changes, offset by saving on groceries.

• Gifts, Sentimentality, and the Infamous Sock [45:55–50:49]

  • The infamous “bean-filled sock” story: Dani’s hand-made heating pad for mastitis, gifted (with love and embarrassment) to her pregnant friend Jenny, who promptly throws it away.
  • Dani muses:

    “It was easier to give it away than... to throw it away. I could never throw it away.” – Dani [50:13]

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Pop Culture, History & Big Ideas

• Learning from Little House on the Prairie & Historical Deep-Dives [57:23–66:05]

  • The couple discusses the new “Little House on the Prairie” series, American westward expansion, and the dark history behind Oklahoma’s land and the Osage tribe (as depicted in “Killers of the Flower Moon”).
  • Jordan shares a mini-lecture on the history of land rights and the Sooner nickname tied to Oklahoma, overall weaving American history into modern context with parenting and pop culture.
  • Notable moment:

    “Oklahoma is basically ‘red people’ in Choctaw. Then they’ve got all these Sooners... They’re rebranded cheaters.” – Jordan [68:41]

• Fan-Fiction & The Influencer Industry [71:39–75:00]

  • Surprised to learn about Harry Potter fan-fiction ("Manacled") and the origins of “50 Shades of Grey.”
  • They joke about a Gossip Girl-style “whistleblower” subculture in the influencer community, but neither wants to spill secrets for real:

    “It would have to be from someone that actually knows, and that’s what would be so fascinating. But I would never do that. Because it’s wrong.” – Dani [74:31]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Nashville Happiness, Curly Hair Theory:

  “When I wear my curly hair, people are like, there’s something about you that’s so different. You just look so happy. And I think it’s the curly hair, but I am genuinely happy, and I’m so, like, this is the best decision we ever made.” – Dani [03:09]

• Declaration of Independence Reading:

  “The owner of this house gathers 100 people around him... and he says, guys, we’re going to read the Declaration of Independence. And he read the entire Declaration... fireworks... Danny and I looked at each other and we were like, this is the America we want to be in.” – Jordan [06:30–07:10]

• Nashville Community Openness:

  “Like, I swear they would have, like, disciplined one of my kids if they had to... I’ve never walked into someone’s house and just immediately feel like I’m part of their family.” – Dani [23:53]

• On Not Being Stalked as an Influencer:

  “I get a little offended about it because... Why have I never had a stalker?” – Dani [32:19]

• The Gift-Giving Philosophy:

  “If I don’t know you that well, I will give you something that I don’t like... But if I really know you and I love you, like, I’ll try to buy you something nice that you’ve always wanted.” – Dani [51:46–51:52]

• On OU’s “Sooners” Nickname:

  “Sooners basically are a bunch of cheaters. They’re rebranded cheaters.” – Jordan [68:41]

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Fun & Educational Segments with Timestamps

• Opening Reflections and Nashville Studio Vibes
  [00:15–03:26]

• July 4th Party & Declaration Reading
  [04:07–07:10]

• Adapting to Nashville: Community, Culture, Parenting
  [19:16–26:34]

• Golf Cart Adventures and Car Critiques
  [27:25–31:59]

• Home Design, Budgeting, and ‘Girl Math’
  [42:11–44:25]

• The Infamous Sock Story
  [45:55–50:49]

• Little House on the Prairie and Killers of the Flower Moon Discussion
  [57:23–66:05]

• History of Oklahoma, Sooners and Fan-Fiction Tangent
  [67:01–75:00]

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Final Thoughts

Dani and Jordan’s move to Nashville has clearly been transformative, offering a richer sense of community, a slower pace, and an environment where family and authenticity are prioritized. Their playful, honest breakdown of cultural and personal shifts—peppered with deep dives into American history, influencer industry “secrets,” and plenty of family anecdotes—make this episode both entertaining and substantial. Whether you’re curious about moving, adjusting to a new culture, or just enjoy relatable, humor-filled conversations, this episode delivers both insight and heart.

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Transcript

[A]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hello, and welcome back to your favorite podcast, de Influenced.

[B]

It looks like our living room, but there's a crowd now.

[A]

There's a crowd.

[B]

We're like a production studio.

[A]

Well, we had to take. Okay, so first of all, we're in Nashville. We're in Nashville spirit fingers. So it's crazy. We have always podcasted out of our own house, and now we actually have to rent a studio in Nashville, which is. Is so fun because we get out of the house more. You know, like, I had to put on, like, a bra. Like, I had to put on clothes. I even did a little makeup. So this is really better for us. But we do have a crowd now. It's not a crowd.

[B]

It's. It's people that work at this five. And then there's two more. Six, seven. This is how Theovon does his.

[A]

All the.

[B]

All the big comedians, I feel like, have big teams.

[A]

It's so funny, cuz when you watch it, like, you feel like it's so intimate, like no one's there.

[B]

I agree. I. I think we can get used to this. But it did tell me that I would never want to do a live show.

[A]

But never say never, you know? No. Cuz you never tried it.

[B]

I'm just telling you I'm going to be cool with these eight people eventually, but I would never want to do it on a stage. It's kind of a weird environment to do on a stage.

[A]

It would be.

[B]

It would be odd, like when Theo did Mike Tyson, but there was like a giant crowd.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because if. If something goes wrong or if there's an awkward moment, you're not just thinking about the clip that comes out. You're thinking about, like, everyone's live reaction to.

[A]

It's a lot of pressure, but that's why it's so good.

[B]

Yeah. No, and we have to do this because we don't have any space.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For our own studio.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, I mean, I. I realized being in Nashville that. What? So we've had, like, four couples come up to us. Men have come up to me and

[A]

been like, this is so true.

[B]

And been like, hey, man, love the podcast. And I go, no, you don't. I was like, you're not the demo.

[A]

You're like, your wife sent you over.

[B]

I go, your wife sent you over here. Danny's over there. You can go meet her. And they were. And I've realized that people who listen to this podcast are like husband and wife couples. I never knew that.

[A]

It makes me Feel so weird to know that, like, a man is listening to me.

[B]

But no, what happens is, it's like. It's like the toast, where you listen to the toast, and then you make me listen to the toast. It's like that thing. But apparently, I think a lot of what we talk about and fight about and bicker about on this podcast is very relatable to other couples. And I never thought about it like that. I just thought we were talking about talking to your audience about pop culture stuff, and I was just here because you didn't want to do it alone.

[A]

Totally.

[B]

But now I'm realizing it is how I was born. We're bringing marriages together.

[A]

Together, babe. We are so relatable.

[B]

We're so relatable. Yeah, I don't know about that, but.

[A]

Well, how are you feeling about Nashville?

[B]

I love it. You're getting a lot of feedback that you look the happiest you've ever been, the most at peace you've ever been. Danny has a theory that it's just because she's wearing her curly hair.

[A]

When I wear my curly hair, people are like, there's something about you that's so different. You just look so happy. And I think it's the curly hair, but I am genuinely happy, and I'm so, like, this is the best decision we ever made. But it. There is, like, this correlation to, like, curly hair.

[B]

You want to know the moment that we realized we were supposed to be here?

[A]

Oh, God, there's so many. Okay. I'll tell you, most of them are not good moments.

[B]

I'll tell you. So it's. We moved here on July 3rd, and so we get invited to a party on July 4th. Okay.

[A]

The Independence Day.

[B]

Yes. The 250th birthday of America. So it's a big one.

[A]

Go USA.

[B]

Go USA. And so we get invited to, like, Deep South Tennessee, past Nashville, Franklin.

[A]

It's, like, not that deep. No, it is literally 20 minutes from here.

[B]

I know, but it is. It's not Nashville. It's like Nashville. Franken Leapers. Thompson Station.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So we go to Thompson Station. Don't know anyone. Our friend Jefferson Bethy invited us, and we go to this party, and we're mainly the ones with younger kids. It's a lot of, like.

[A]

It's a lot of college. It's a. It's like an older family that they have. They have kids in college, so. And one of them plays, like, college basketball. So he had a lot of his. His friends that were, like, six, five college students. There.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So we were like the, like, I was like, wait, like, are we friends with the college students or the parents?

[B]

Like, I don't know, but let me just set this stage. So Nashville is beautiful. It's very. It's very different than what we're used to. It's hilly, it's very green, it's very lush. So we're like driving deep into the country and we turn on this road. And on this road there's only three houses and they're on about like five to seven acres each. It's completely lush, green, perfectly manicured yard, white picket fence. White picket fences. Sun is setting, so it's like dusk. You see fireworks going off in the

[A]

background, horses back in the farm.

[B]

So it's like the most like heavenly environment. So we get out of the car,

[A]

there's probably like a hundred people at this point.

[B]

There's a hundred people. They're all oddly good looking.

[A]

Yeah. I was like, what, what is this? Like, what's in the water here?

[B]

No, it was giving Mormon. It was giving.

[A]

Oh, it was so giving Mormon.

[B]

It was giving such Mormon.

[A]

So right.

[B]

Like good looking people. So down to earth.

[A]

So.

[B]

So, like one of the college students

[A]

come up to me, he's like, he's what? He's probably like 18 years old. He's like, he's like, man, your kids are so cute. You knocked it out in like five years. You have four kids in five years. That's like, good job, girlfriend. Like, think I'm like, who is this person?

[B]

So that's not even the best part. So random part of this story is back when I was a kid growing up, my dad would always take us to Chicago Cubs games. I don't even think you know this part of the story.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And back in the day, there was this famous Chicago Cubs pitcher named Kerry Wood, I think with an S or just one. And Jefferson introduced me to this guy and he's like, hey, this is my friend Carrie. And he's like. And I'm like, oh, hey, Kerry, my name's Jordan and I don't know anything. Like, I don't connect the dots. And he's like, you might have grown up watching Kerry play for the Chicago Cubs. And I was like, I didn't fanboy. But I was like, oh my gosh, my.

[A]

You tell me this.

[B]

And my brother would freak out that he was there. Like, I was so excited to meet him. But anyway, the best part of the party, this is how we knew we were supposed to be in Nashville. They stop the party okay. And they say, hey, everyone, gather around. And the owner of this house gathers 100 people around him. Students, kids, complete silence. All the kids looking. And he says, guys, we're going to read the Declaration of Independence. And he read the entire Declaration of Independence. And fireworks shed a tear. Fireworks are going off in the background. And Danny and I looked at each other and we were like, this is the America we want to be in.

[A]

This is the best decision ever.

[B]

We did say that. And it was.

[A]

And no. He prayed over our country.

[B]

He prayed over our country. He read the Declaration of Independence. He had a lot to say about King George.

[A]

Yep. He was not a fan.

[B]

He was not a fan of King George, which I don't blame him.

[A]

No taxation with that representation. The Stamp Act.

[B]

Yeah, he went over it all.

[A]

He went over it all. But let me tell you, this is a good reminder. I always forget that. No, because I always forget about George.

[B]

People get caught up in the fireworks. They get caught up in the hot dogs. They get caught up in the bratwurst.

[A]

What's it really all about, babe?

[B]

It's about the founding of America.

[A]

It's about freedom.

[B]

And I felt so grounded and present in America at that party, usa, getting,

[A]

like, hyped up just singing about it.

[B]

No, I know.

[A]

I need to go to Gap and buy a T shirt. Says USA right now.

[B]

Right? Exactly.

[A]

No, it was a phenomenal party.

[B]

It was a phenomenal party.

[A]

We met some cool families. The only thing is, they do live a little bit further out. But I exchanged some numbers.

[B]

Yeah, no, we.

[A]

And we don't be like, I give anybody my number.

[B]

She does.

[A]

Anytime I meet anybody. Like, if you're. Now, if I don't give you ever, you're probably a little weird because I give it to everyone and, like, because I genuinely want to be friends, like, with everyone, but, like, I do, but I don't. Like, I want to be your friend, and, like, I think about it and I, like, have these visions, and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to give my number and we're going to go to the park and we're going to. It never really happens, but I was going to say, you want it, but it just doesn't happen.

[B]

Did you text the three moms?

[A]

Okay, so here's a funny story. Actually, the one of the ones that I did give my number. Here's the other thing. If we exchange numbers, I'm not calling you. You can call me. And it's not because. It's just, I like to be pursued. Okay? And I feel very uncomfortable when I put myself out there. And I'm just. Just call me. And I will. If you invite me one place, then I'll invite you back. Like, I'm very, very. Like, we'll reciprocate. Like, you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. Like, trust me, like, you won't be the only one calling me. But, um. But no. So someone did. They did follow up, and they invited me to a Bible study with. I can't remember. I think it's her. I think her name's Lisa Bevere, which.

[B]

Oh, no, you gotta go to that.

[A]

No. Do you know who John Bevere is?

[B]

I'm supposed to meet him soon.

[A]

Okay, well, you have to meet him, because this book. He wrote this book. I want to say I was probably. I don't know why, like, the year, like, oh, eight is standing out to me. Okay, good. Like, maybe Google when this book was written. Somebody, one of you, eight people watching this. Can somebody Google this?

[B]

Which one of you guys got a computer?

[A]

John Bevere, Rescued. Okay, So I, like, was like, I became, like, a Christian. Like, you know, like a Christian. Like, well, dude. But I was like, what does that mean? You know? And I thought I knew what I mean. I read this book when I was in high school, maybe middle school. Changed my life. It's about a pastor that goes to hell. It's so scary. But John Bevere wrote that book and it, like, actually changed my life because I always knew, like, what, like, being a Christian was. But then, like, I read this book and I was like, oh, wait, like, there's, like, God's word, and, like, he writes it so that we can, like, follow it. Like, it was like, just this whole thing. Anyway, it kind of changed my life. What's it called? Rescued by John Bevere.

[B]

Rescued.

[A]

There's, like, a hand, and it looks like he's maybe, like, coming up from hell.

[B]

You better be careful. We're about to become Christian influencers.

[A]

No, I'm not. October 2006, I said, oh, wait, not too. Not.

[B]

They get. Christian influencers get the worst hate.

[A]

Babe, I am an influencer who is a Christian.

[B]

I know for sure. That's always been our brand.

[A]

No, wait.

[B]

But we gotta be careful, because if we start creeping into the Christian influencer space, that hate is no fiery.

[A]

They.

[B]

They get worse hate than anyone.

[A]

No, anyone. Because they go. They go for the jugular. Like your soul.

[B]

No, they do.

[A]

Like, your heart.

[B]

They do.

[A]

Like, your character.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, who you are as a person. Like, people just are like, you're ugly. In fact, I don't like you. And I'm like, you know what? I probably am. I, I don't think I look great today either. But when they go for like, yeah, me, is it, it hurts, right?

[B]

No. Jenny and Caleb get it on the chin.

[A]

Yeah. But good for them. Like, she was made for that. Some of us were like, you know, some of us started so early on, you know, we've just been through it. We've been through the ringer so many times that it takes a lot to take us down.

[B]

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[A]

had to say, but I got invited to his wife's Bible study.

[B]

Oh, are you gonna go?

[A]

That's what's so funny about, you know, Nashville. Everybody's somebody. But I don't even know who you are. But I, like, happen to know who this person is. But like, I don't really about, like, the Christian ministry spaces, like, like famous pastors, famous authors. But it's like there, everybody is somebody here, like an ex baseball player or some big designer. So it's like everybody's so talented, but

[B]

it's like everyone here also is so down to earth that it's like they don't come here with that mask on.

[A]

Did you see Justin Baldoni moved here?

[B]

No, he. Yeah, he should. He should have moved.

[A]

He should have moved here. But you know what? Okay, okay. I have a theory and I just thought about. This is why. Okay, so Justin Baldoni, they. He just came out with, like, a statement with him and his wife. Did you see it?

[B]

Well, no, but I saw you were like, dming with him.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I'm like, justice for Baldoni. So, yeah, so they came out with this statement, him and his wife, and basically we're just like, we haven't been able to talk for so long and now, like, we're finally getting over the hump of all these, like, legal struggles, legal battles. Like, thank you so much for everyone that supported us. And yes, I did comment on it and. But I saw, you know, he had moved from LA to Franklin. Okay idea. I think it's because. And I don't think he's like a conservative or anything, but Candace Owens is the reason, like, one of the biggest reasons why everybody backed him, like, and went like, so 100% full throttle. Because she covered the case.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Candace Owens lives in Nashville. I think they got, like, literally kicked out of la.

[B]

You think so?

[A]

I think, like, he, like, didn't feel comfortable in la. Like all these celebrities, Hollywood, you know, and it became so, like, it was just confusing. So I think that he was inspired by all the people that supported him, like, whether they were in Texas, Tennessee, whatever. And they were all in Tennessee, I think. And so he moved out to Nashville because it's the closest thing to la. So Nashville is kind of like little mini la.

[B]

No, that's what I'm saying. But I feel like it's like, it's. It's LA in the sense of who lives here. And there's a lot of, like, celebrities and musicians, but I think it's I think people like it because it's all the benefits of LA without the curses of it. Like, I'm saying, people aren't fake here. Like, you can kind of come here and take off your mask and, like, just be you.

[A]

Lives here for six days. We know everything about Nashville.

[B]

No, I'm just saying, I. I actually had a conversation with the lady in the coffee shop today. She was from la and she had a golden retriever. And I pet her. Golden retriever. And I was talking to her about

[A]

this, and she was like, everybody lets you pet their dogs here. It's like, so nice. Dallas. It's like, don't touch.

[B]

She was saying. She was from la and she was saying, you know, in la, you know, you kind of want the hustle and bustle of being around really creative, interesting people, but it comes with this kind of superficiality. And she was like, what most people from New York and LA realize about it here is you're able to get both of those things just at a nicer, like, pace with stronger values

[A]

like this.

[B]

Wait, really?

[A]

Just slap it? Yeah, you got it. It was just a little fly.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, my God. I got it. It was a little tiny one.

[B]

I'm so sorry.

[A]

No, it's okay. Oh, no, just keep it. That's.

[B]

No, that's the best part.

[A]

No, it was like a little gnat.

[B]

No, it's okay. It's okay.

[A]

It's okay. I'm sorry I had to interrupt you.

[B]

No, you.

[A]

You for sure. I couldn't focus. It's also a lot of wildlife in Nashville. It was just especially studio. We had a. We had a furry caterpillar on our door that was really interesting.

[B]

Poisonous.

[A]

Well, I wouldn't have known. It looks so friendly, furry. I just wanted to touch it, but something in my gut told me not to, and thank God I did it. I wouldn't be here today.

[B]

So I do feel like it is. What do you think is different just being here six days? What do you feel is different? Because you can blame it on your curly hair, but I have read the DMs, and I actually agree that you. And you've even sat and told me you've been like, I feel so much more at peace like you. You've said, like, man, I'm so happy, you know, what do you think is different about your life here? Or did we just need a hard reset in our life in general?

[A]

I think it's a little bit of both. I think, like, I think having a reset anywhere is. Is actually, you know, people always Say, you know, when you move, like, what's the saying? They always say, like, their problems are going to follow you.

[B]

Yeah, everyone kept telling me that.

[A]

They're like, you know, if you have problems in Dallas, you're gonna have problems in. I'm like, no, I know.

[B]

I kind of feel like y' all were wrong, to be honest.

[A]

I do feel like there is something to say about a fresh start and, like, just, like, picking up your family, fresh start, different mindset, saying, we're gonna do this, this, and this differently. And, like, starting off on the right foot, I think is. Is actually, like, kind of life changing for us. Like, we were like. And I think it was so hard for us to break some of, like, our old routines in Dallas. Whether it was, like, you know, the structure of, like, how many after school activities our kids were in, all of that was just so hard to break. And then you have all these people, like, relying on you all the time, and so move it. Picking up your family, moving Nashville and be like, this is what we're going to prioritize. This is what our day is going to look like. This. It's just been. I just feel like I'm, like, back in control as a mom, and I feel like I let go of so much control with my kids, especially because I was like, I want to work, and I want to do this and I want to do that. And so it was really hard for me to balance everything, so I kind of outsourced so much, and, you know, I took that, like, two months off, which really did help set back, like, put me back on, like, the right foot, but it was still, like, not enough. And then I think culturally, it's just like, yeah, people, like, love, like, families here, and they love. I think, that, like, you're really people just, like, like you for who you are, and, like, not so much about, like, what family you cut. Like, I feel like sometimes Dallas is very, like. It's like, what family did you come from? Or what neighborhood or what zip code? And that's just culturally, like, how it is, which is fine because you can find good people anywhere. But I do feel like it's, like, a little bit easier here. I will say it's, like, very rare to meet someone, like, in the people that we've met. Like, that's actually from Nashville. So I feel like it's kind of like a melting pot of, like, a lot of different cultures, and everybody comes together, but they're, like, once something similar, which is, like, I would say a lot of, like, just Family time. And it's like, bring your kids over. Don't hire a nanny. We'll help. Like, we went to dinner, and we went with, like, our four kids. And I'm not gonna lie. Like, I'm scared to take my four kids into somebody else's house. Like, it's. It's really anywhere. It's really scary. Like, I was actually really. Like, I sat Jordan down before we went to this dinner, and I was like, hey. Like. And I don't know why I'm like this. Maybe it's just the way I was raised. Like, I. I am so scared to be, like, a bad guest. Like, I always want to, like, clean up after myself, or I'm so scared to, like, break something. Like, I just want to go into someone's house and, like, respect it, and then they will always invite me back because I've also been on the other end of it where, like, someone comes over, and it's like, you just feel like they don't, like, respect your space and whatever. So, like, I told. But it's really hard to do that when you have four small children. Like, Stella's five, Stratton's four. He's really into swords right now, which can be very scary because you, like, don't know if there's a base around. Like, it, like, could be.

[B]

Be grandma foam swords.

[A]

No, it's a plastic sword, babe.

[B]

Well, I was. Not real swords.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Not obviously not real swords. He's poor. And then we have Summit, who's, like, becoming very mischievous. He's 16 months now. 15 months. And, like, that's scary. And then newborn, who just literally needs all of your attention.

[B]

And so whoever's holding the newborn is out of commission.

[A]

Out of commission. So I'm like, so whenever we go in, it's like, this beautiful house. And, you know, I tell Jordan, I'm like, when we go, before we go, I'm like, hey, we need to sit down. Like, we need to talk about, like, how you and I are gonna, like, act at this house. I was like, if I. Like, we cannot leave each other's side, because, like, if I'm gonna need a bottle, I'm gonna need help, or da, da. You know? And so we just sat down. Cause I was like, also, the worst thing is whenever you're a couple and you fight in front of somebody else

[B]

at their house, I'm a drifter, too. When we go to someone's house, I'm gone.

[A]

He's gone.

[B]

I'm working the whole room.

[A]

No, he works the whole room. This is how like we, this is actually a big thing for us. Like at like when we first started dating slash got married, we'd go to a wedding and Jordan like wouldn't. He would just buy like, bye. And I'd be like, hey, I'll be honest.

[B]

It happens slowly. It. I get dragged in and then I'm like, I gotta go talk to this person.

[A]

But then he never like would be like, honey, you wanna drink? Or like, are you okay?

[B]

I was not good at that.

[A]

And like, I'm like. So we would have like a lot of time. So. Which is fine whenever you're one on one, but whenever you have kids and like your husband leaves and you have four running around like possibly breaking people's stuff at their house, like, I am not well. And so. But no, we had, it was so great because we pulled up, they have seven kids. Okay. The 10 year old immediately is like, stella, you want to come play with me? This is the kids table. This is where we're gonna sit. The 17 year old is like, oh my gosh, I love babies. Can I hold him? Can I feed him? Can I put him down? Can I burp him? Like everybody was like taking my children and taking care of them and I was like, this has never happened to me before. Like no one has ever. I've never walked into someone's house and initially. And like just immediately I feel like I'm part of their family. Like, I swear they would have like disciplined one of my kids if they had to. Like, they were, they were amazing though. They were amazing and they were so like accommodating and like had thought about like, oh, we got all the toys out for your kids. Like it was just so like kid friendly family. Yeah. Oriented that I do feel like that's just like, it's that you can find that everywhere, but it's like really like magnified here.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And then like, I don't know, it's like pretty. So you just kind of sometimes want to stop and smell the flowers or I guess the grass. They have a lot of grass here. Silly. Nice grass.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Get community disciplined growing up. Whatever mom was there, we got that one. What does that mean? If you're like, you're like, I even think my kids, someone would discipline my kids if they needed to. Oh, oh.

[B]

She's like, you're saying like whatever mom was in charge at the time. I honestly think that just culturally speaking, we, we would take our kids to some of our friends houses, but we also had like three when they had their first. Right. So we had way more kids that were young. So we brought a lot more chaos to, like, our friend group than they were probably used to at the time. But that's like, what you were saying. It's like a no brainer. It's like if you're invited somewhere, your kids all go.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's like. It's like, more culturally ingrained that, like, kids are involved in everything here. Whereas, like, a lot of. I feel like the. The things that we do, you can

[A]

tell because of the type of grocery carts they have at Target, you know, did you ever notice that ours. Our target only had two of those grocery carts that had, like, the. Where the kids could sit in the back. But this target we went to, there were like 15.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I mean, it's like, even the targets are more like family. Kid. Kid friendly.

[B]

Yeah. I'm telling you, all the men's room have changing tables.

[A]

Nah.

[B]

No, True.

[A]

Nah.

[B]

When Summit had that issue.

[A]

You're kidding. They didn't have that in Dad.

[B]

I didn't even wait till the family one went straight into the misery.

[A]

Okay, now that's saying something. Saying, y' all gotta move here. I'm telling you, it's crazy.

[B]

But that's the thing is, like, I don't want to hype it up to where because it does have this, like, small town feel.

[A]

Yeah, we don't want you here.

[B]

No. Like, I feel like that's what people would say to you whenever we were like, we're thinking about.

[A]

People hate that I'm here. People that don't even live here.

[B]

No one hates that you're here.

[A]

Oh, Jordan. Oh.

[B]

I mean, the. Probably the. The minority of people hate that you're here. Like the OG Nashville people. Like that lady who was mad that

[A]

she was so mad.

[B]

Do we ever tell this story?

[A]

No, because I was like, I don't want to share something negative right now. I'm just too happy. Yeah, but like, people. It's like, people.

[B]

Someone basically got mad that we bought our new house because they said that they accused. Oh, no.

[A]

Oh, you're talking about that girl. No, we did talk a little bit.

[B]

We talked about that.

[A]

Yeah, we talked about that. Would be cool. Would be cool. I've been a good neighbor. I've only done, like, one outrageous stunt since we've been here.

[B]

What'd you do?

[A]

I just stood on my car. It was like, not that crazy.

[B]

Oh, yeah, because you got the.

[A]

I got my new van.

[B]

It's awesome.

[A]

It's awesome. I got A Volkswagen Idaho bus. Buzz, Buzz.

[B]

Yes. I took it to Planet Fitness, and even the gym bros were like this. They were like, bro, this thing is cool. It's like, they, like, got out of their Teslas, and we're commenting on our VW van.

[A]

So I do have. You know, it's so cool. But I do have a couple of criticisms Just. Just for anyone that's, like, interested in the car, you know, I do want

[B]

you to know, like, Volkswagen CEO, listening.

[A]

Yeah. Into the. Well, I. I'm scared to share this, because I would love for you guys to sponsor me, but maybe you can sponsor me after you fix these issues. Okay. It doesn't have cup holders in the second row.

[B]

True.

[A]

It does in the third row. No cup holders in the second row. A van for kids and family. What are you thinking? Yeah, what are you thinking? I mean, come on. Like, that's just.

[B]

Like, they do offer them, but it's additional.

[A]

It's $100 additional, and they clip onto the sides. But I just. I. That is so wrong to me, and I. Something that I honestly thought I didn't even had to have to check for. Like, I was like, why? It's like, why would I even check that? And it's like, they don't have it, so that's kind of annoying. I did. I'm trying to order them, but it actually is kind of hard to order them if you do it from the Volkswagen site. Like, you can't.

[B]

No, it. It was hard to find this one.

[A]

No. Yeah. It's so. Shipped it from Texas, so if you have a problem with it, like, apparently they don't replace windshield wipers. A lot of people told me that. Yeah. There's some weird things about this car. It is electric, so you do need to. You can buy the, like, converter to. To charge it, like, with a.

[B]

With a Tesla supercharger.

[A]

Tesla supercharger. That's good.

[B]

But you have to buy it.

[A]

Um, it also has no, like, coverage storage. Like, all. It's almost like. Okay, so, like, in your kitchen, if you ever have, like, exposed shelves. Like, you guys know if you have an exposed shelf in your house, in your kitchen, you have to keep it looking nice, right? Because, like, if you have cabinets, you can just stuff your crap in there and just shut the cabinets. Well, all of the storage in this car is exposed except for the. What do you call that thing? Glove compartment. Glove compartment where you could sometimes store, you know, like, besides that, everything exposed. So that's kind of annoying because that means you have to keep your Car, like, somewhat looking tidy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Also, it doesn't have great trunk space, like, for groceries. Now you can put that, like, third row down, like, you know, back how we used to do in the 90s, like, actually, you know, so funny. Back in the 90s, when my mom drove a red, big Expedition, the only way you could, like, like, have. We would have to take the seats out. Did you ever have to do that? Like, we couldn't fold the seats down.

[B]

Oh, those were, like, very old.

[A]

Yeah. And so, like, when my mom wanted to, like. Like, take something across town, we had to actually, like. I'm. I'm telling you, the entire seat had to come out. It was, like, a thing.

[B]

I remember that. Yeah.

[A]

It was a Trek. So at least these do fold down. But. Yeah, there's like. But, you know, to me, it's like.

[B]

I don't know if this is. You can't be perfect, but when Stratton was sitting in the third row, you can't see them.

[A]

Oh, that's probably.

[B]

They're kind of like. They're kind of raised. Like, the seats in the back are raised. Yeah.

[A]

You can't really see your children in, like, there could be a child back there, and, like, you might. It. The third row, you can see they're gone.

[B]

Like, if they're back there, it's.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No one knows what's going on back there.

[A]

Yeah. So, you know, maybe it's not very popular because they're perfecting it still.

[B]

They are. V2.

[A]

V2.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But besides all those things, it's a great car. It looks great.

[B]

Yeah, it's cool. We also got. We also got a golf cart.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

Now, the amount of times I got stopped this morning with this golf cart, like, I had a man walk off his.

[A]

We went from having, like, no interest in cars and having the best cars.

[B]

This man walked off his porch, stood in the middle of the road, waved me down, and go, hey, I'm Steve. He goes, you got to tell me about this. This thing.

[A]

That's why I love people here, because they just. You just meet people on the street.

[B]

Yeah. No, no. I was like, here's my wife's number, but you have to pursue her, or else we'll never hang out.

[A]

Call me Steve.

[B]

No, but he was like, yeah, there used to be a big golf cart community. All the kids got older. And then he was like, but we've been trying to get a resurgence going. He was like, I feel like this golf cart here is the ticket because it has a table in the back.

[A]

He's like, you're like, Steve, like, God told me I was supposed to be here. I'm here to help you.

[B]

Like, I'm here to help you. This is the club car crew. And it is amazing. I literally got out. We were walking around like, I was showing off my ride T shirts.

[A]

Like, your sticker?

[B]

No, it's. It's awesome or something. It's awesome.

[A]

Yeah. So we moved here, and then we got a new car, and then we're living in a temporary home in a temporary home in a really cool area of Nashville.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Should we say it?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't think people, like.

[B]

No.

[A]

The thing about me is, like, people don't want to stalk me.

[B]

No. No.

[A]

And I get a little offended about it because I don't understand still why so many other influencers have stalkers, but not me. What is it about me that people want to stalk?

[B]

Devin. Devin and Janelle back in Dallas had, like, a really bad stalker, like, showed up to his door. That's so sad. But, like, also, like, why have I never had a stalker?

[A]

It's not funny funny.

[B]

It's like the meme where you get

[A]

kidnapped and it's like the girl that leans between the seats and she's like, so why'd you pick me? So what was it?

[B]

But then, like, but then. But then Danny gets a stalker, and then she's like, this is the worst thing in the world.

[A]

And then it gets no because I've never had one.

[B]

It gets quiet in our lives. And then she's like. She's like, why is no one hating me right now? My irrelevant.

[A]

It's so true. Yeah.

[B]

So it's a love hate relationship.

[A]

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[A]

Oh, we've like, we. I think what set it off was the 4th of July we've been really into. Back into history.

[B]

Yeah, but wait, sorry, we're. We're living in a temporary home.

[A]

Oh, yeah, sorry.

[B]

And we thought it was going to be for like two months.

[A]

Oh, you did? I'm not that naive.

[B]

I thought we were going to be moving into this.

[A]

He hired his designer and like, Jordan's like, so we'll be in the house in like two months. I'm like, yeah, sure, babe. I'm like, let's just get there.

[B]

She goes, we're gonna try and get you in before Christmas.

[A]

And I was like, jordan's doll hit the floor. I was like, yeah, yeah. I mean, it takes a while to order furniture and the house is not even built yet, like, completely done yet.

[B]

That's true, that's true.

[A]

You know, I spent all morning looking at different types of edges on countertops. It was so fascinating.

[B]

That's another part of Danny's journey that's going to unfold soon is she wants to build homes. Yeah, yeah. She's already contacted a couple designers. She, we. You almost bought that investment property.

[A]

It was Cheryl Crows.

[B]

Cheryl Crows.

[A]

I did. It was for sale on Facebook. And I was like, I gotta have that. So we go, this would have been a piece of work. I'm so like, this is how we know God is real is because we didn't get the house. And if we would have gotten that house, it would have been a lot of work.

[B]

Yeah. In my.

[A]

But it was cool.

[B]

My fear is beautiful home. You love the excitement of the start. You know, like, like, I'm going to start this project, but then I feel like it was like, once, you know, the going gets rough, I feel like you're gonna be like, I'm over it.

[A]

I'm gonna hire somebody else. Like, you pick.

[B]

Oh, thank goodness. That didn't work out.

[A]

Yeah, that didn't work out. But no. So we're living in an adorable home. We love it. I actually feel like we're gonna be sad to leave.

[B]

No, true.

[A]

You know why? You know what I noticed about some homes that just make it so homey.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Crown molting. When houses have that, like, woodwork, that trim, you just feel at home. And, you know, we've never lived in a house like that because all our houses have always been so modern.

[B]

Is there crown molding in this one?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, it's little things that you don't notice.

[B]

Yeah, no, I don't.

[A]

It's along the ceiling, the floorboards.

[B]

You also had a theory on setbacks.

[A]

I forgot what that meant.

[B]

Well, you said it.

[A]

Oh. So Jordan's like, why do we feel so, like, at peace here? And I was like, it's because our house is set back off of the street. And we've always had a house. It's like, right off of the street. And so when our kids, like, would exit the front door, immediately they're like, oh, my gosh, someone's going to take them or they're going to go in the middle of the street, get hit, whatever. Like, so you just this level of stress that you. That you carry on a daily basis when you have a house that's right off of the street, it's like, you don't even notice it. But now our house that we live in is set off of the street, so, like, your kid could have like a 5, probably 10 second head start and you still feel peace because you're like, they're not gonna hit the street until I, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so it's like you just. You feel better.

[B]

You.

[A]

It's. It's almost like, what do they say, Feng shui. You know, it's like, it's like the difference of, I don't know if anybody sleeps like this, and maybe if you. If you don't, you should change. But, like, your husband should always be sleeping closer to the door.

[B]

That's a good point.

[A]

Because it makes a woman feel safer. Because if somebody comes into your bedroom, then your husband's kind of the first that goes.

[B]

She was dead serious when she said that too.

[A]

I say it. I don't realize, but. No, I meant he's gonna protect you.

[B]

Protect you for sure. It's a classic survival state.

[A]

I'm sorry. My mom really raised me like this. My mom would make us. I've talked about this. My mom would take us to the grocery store and we would all have to wait in a separate line to see who would get there.

[B]

No, it carried in our marriage. Like, I feel like on the way to our. On our honeymoon, like, our first fight was that I just wanted to, like, board and C group because we all have assigned seats.

[A]

I was like, babe, do you realize that you might not be able to put your luggage right above your seat?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That means when you get up and you have to get something, you might have to walk four feet. Can you imagine? That would be horrible. Get your act together and let's get on this dang plane, man.

[B]

It's like I. It's like you. You really, like, twisted my nervous system just into, like, this, like, fight mode. Honestly, it taught me. I feel like I'm a better survivor after being married to you. No.

[A]

Really?

[B]

No. Truly, no.

[A]

And sometimes, like, you actually freak out about stuff more than I do now.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Like, you're more high strung about.

[B]

No, I'm trying to, like, retrain my. My nervous system to chill. I know.

[A]

Same.

[B]

Well, so wait, what did you choose in terms of the. The. The.

[A]

Well, it's so annoying because every time I like something, it's too expensive. And so I always text him, they're like, we don't have that in the budget. And then I'm like, but I fell in love with it already. I'm like, I can't change it. It's like, I can't change. It's like, I can't. I can't change what I love, you know, for sure. It's like, it's like, if I would have met you. And then they're like, you can't have that. You have to go for the shorter one. I'd be like, I can't. I already love him. And so. So the budget just keeps on increasing.

[B]

I've noticed that.

[A]

I know. Every time I get the budget, it's like, so much more. I don't know why.

[B]

I'm like, you can't stop.

[A]

I can't stop. And Then I'm just like. I'm. I'm like, you know, thank goodness they're all like wire transfers. Because if this was. Because if this was cash I was handing out, I would have a panic attack. I feel like I need to have a garage sale just to make money because it's all so expensive.

[B]

No, it truly is. The. The girl math that happens in Danny's head is so funny.

[A]

She's like, I'm like, I want. I'm like, I want the. The ten thousand dollar change to the edges of the countertops, but then I need to sell this dress in a garage sale. She's also like, 45.

[B]

We're like, we're at the grocery store. And she's like, jordan, take back Horizon organic milk. We need to get bored. And I just got countertop. It really does in the math makes no sense.

[A]

I know. It's so. Y'. All. It's so expensive. And what's so hard about, like, no offense, like, I love my designers. Yeah, but they're so expensive, and they just don't care about money.

[B]

No, they don't.

[A]

They don't. They just. They care about aesthetics. And I'm like, same. You know? But then it's like, who's paying for this thing? And we get this, like, beautiful inspo picture. And like, this closet's gonna be stunning. And they're like, do you want this? And I'm like, yes. And then I'm like, you didn't tell me that was an extra 15 grand.

[B]

Funny story. You actually walked into this house two trips ago and walked out. She was like, this ain't it.

[A]

No, that's actually I. Because at the time, I was like, I really wanted a big backyard, and we really wanted, like, acres, but we didn't. We wanted like 2 acres, not like 7 acres or something. And we. When we pulled up to see this house, our realtor took it, took us to it. And I said, no, because the backyard looked into another person's backyard. Kind of like you could kind of. You can't like, see them in there because they're the privacy fence and trees. But. But I didn't like the fact that when I was looking out that you could see somebody else's roof. So we actually. We showed up and I was like, no, next house. And so I. We did turn it down. But, yeah, it called me back.

[B]

The other funny story, Jenny, if you want to approach the mic, I heard this story for the first time. Come on, Jenny.

[A]

Come on, Jenny. Come on down.

[B]

You have to come and Tell this story. I just heard this story for the first time and. Come here. Please tell it.

[A]

Oh, I can tell it. It's probably. That's funny.

[B]

Jenny. Jenny is basically like the president of Danny's brand and sounds so official. I just started. I started that, like, two weeks ago. Did you notice that I just started calling you that to everyone? And so. But Jenny has this story that I just heard for the first time, like, a week ago. And it is when people ask you, like, here's the best way to explain Danny, Austin, and. Okay, you tell the story.

[A]

Okay. So back in 2020, after I had Stella, I had. I got, like, this horrible mastitis. I always get mastitis for all my babies. There's something about my nipples.

[B]

I don't know what it is.

[A]

Sorry. Sorry. Do they hate people in here? But so what they tell you to do now, back in 2020, it was all about the warm compress. Now in 2026, they tell you to switch between hot and cold whenever you have these. Because what. What mastitis is, it's a clogged duct of, like, breast milk that gets infected. So you get this, like, big red lump, and it gets infected. So you get this rash all over you. You get fever. You feel like you have the flu. It's horrible. Chills, aches. It's awful. And so back in 2020, they would tell you to put, like, a heating pad on there. So, you know, I was like, girl, I'm not gonna go buy a heating pad. I'm just gonna make one. So I got, like, an old sock. I filled it with beans, and anytime I needed to use it, I would just put in the microwave for 60 seconds. It's a great. It was a great thing. And it. It served its purpose. I always stuff that thing in my bra, kind of like I used to in 60, sixth grade. I really did stuff my bra with socks in sixth grade. One time, it fell off. It was horrible. Jacob Cowan found it. It was awful. He was my first boyfriend. He was Jewish, I was Christian. And go. He told me I couldn't marry him. I was like, go, please. I was like, go. It's 1999, please. So, yeah, so I had that. So I always use this sock anytime I need a heating pad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or something like, you know, something the sock did. Every time you put in the microwave, it would turn a little brown. Okay. So it started out as a nice white sock. It was actually probably yours. Yeah. And it's just over time. I don't know what it is about the beans. I Guess they just melt a little bit or something. And, yeah, so it kind of got a little yucky. But I would always save it for the next baby because I always knew I'm gonna have another baby, so I'm gonna get my status. So then 2022 rolls around, I have Stratton, same thing, pull out my sock. Microwave gets a little bit more brown. Then I have my third baby, 2025, same thing. I always put it. I always had this, like, section in our house with all of my pregnancy stuff, you know, in my breastfeeding stuff. So then 20, 26 rolls around, same thing, have a baby, get my pull.

[B]

My socks are improving year over year, year over year.

[A]

There's ways to do it, but, like, if it ain't broke, why fix it? And something about me, it's like, well, I was raised by Tornado, and she was a hoarder. She was the oldest of five. And, you know, it's like, you can't get rid of anything. And so it's really taken me a lot in my life to learn, like, what I need to get rid of. What's actually, like, necessary. What was that? What was the. The method where you hold it and ask if it. If it brings you joy?

[B]

Oh, I don't know who.

[A]

Remember Marie Kwondo?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Marie Kondo Method, conduit, condo. Marie Kondo. You know, and, like, I held the sock to my chest, and I was like, yeah, it still brings me joy. So I never got rid of it. Well, do people know you're pregnant? Okay, so Jenny's pregnant. Congrats. I knew first. Sorry. And, you know, I love to. I was like, this is probably my last baby. So I got to give Jenny a lot of my. My old breast pump, a lot of clothes that don't fit my babies anymore. So she sends me a video last week, and she's like, danny, I'm so thankful for everything that you sent me. Like, you gave me the breast pump, and I'm so thankful for all these new clothes. Like, look at all the stuff that you gave me. But this I had donated to her. My old sock. But, Jenny, here's the thing. You're gonna love it. You're gonna use it. I hope you kept that. Did you. She threw it away. Oh, she's now vice president of the company. She's not president anymore. She's demoted.

[B]

Was never officially promoted, just demoted.

[A]

Well. Well, I can't look at you anymore.

[B]

Oh, that's so funny.

[A]

Well, you can make it. That's the good news.

[B]

And the reason you gave it away is because it was easier to give it away than it was to throw it away.

[A]

I could never throw it away. It was mar.

[B]

It was almost like you were like, jenny, I can't do this. But this is your problem.

[A]

You know what? I'm. I'm actually a little upset that you told me that you gave it away. That you did throw it away. Because here I am thinking I had a safe new home.

[B]

It is so true. It's the. It's the craziest thing about you.

[A]

Like, you will, like, I'm so cheap, but I'm not.

[B]

You're so cheap, but then you're so not.

[A]

You can't.

[B]

You can't put you in a box.

[A]

No, but I just like, anybody that was raised like that knows, like, that can't be taken away from you. Like what? You cheap once. You always cheat.

[B]

Yeah, no, I get it.

[A]

But like, I try to be classy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Classier, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like when you go to someone's house, like, you can't go empty handed, so I'll bring them the sock.

[B]

So true.

[A]

You know, my mom always, like, gives. Like, my mom always, like, gives people the gifts that she didn't like, you know?

[B]

No, babe, you do that. You 100% do that. Like if.

[A]

Danny. No, that's not true. Do I do that? You guys better be careful. Cause I've gifted you guys diamonds before.

[B]

No, well, that's different. You actually have given them.

[A]

I buy gifts for Christmas.

[B]

You're a great gift giver.

[A]

But like, I buy gifts for Christmas. I buy. You even said I'm a great gift giver.

[B]

You are. You are a great gift.

[A]

I always listen.

[B]

But you also. You have an Amazon closet that.

[A]

Well. Yeah. If I don't know you that well, I will give you something that I don't like.

[B]

Okay, yeah, that's fair because I don't

[A]

know you that well. But if I really know you and I love you, like, I'll try to buy you something nice that you've always wanted.

[B]

That's true. That's true.

[A]

Yeah, sure. You'll always know if I like you or not. But the quality of gift. You should tell people what I got you for Father's Day this year. I actually, like, tried and I feel like you didn't really appreciate it.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Oh, my God. He doesn't remember.

[B]

Oh, my God. I'm.

[A]

See, you might.

[B]

Wait, hold on.

[A]

This is why I give people dirty socks, because they don't appreciate it.

[B]

Were those new t Shirts?

[A]

No.

[B]

What did you get me for Father's Day?

[A]

I actually, like, planned it, like, probably a month and a half in advance.

[B]

Was it an experience?

[A]

No. Some would say it could be. I gifted you a drawing, but I didn't draw it.

[B]

Okay. Do you know what? Okay. You did, and it was so sweet, and I'm so grateful. But also, we were on a trip before that. Who are we with? I remember someone goes, are you excited for Father's Day? And I remember your eyes got really big because I think that you had forgotten.

[A]

No.

[B]

And then you just.

[A]

I have text messages. I hired this girl to do a commission piece. I sent her the picture a month and a half in advance. Almost two months. Because it took her two months to draw it.

[B]

Okay, okay. That's. That's. I thought you pulled that off.

[A]

I'm so offended right now.

[B]

I thought you pulled that off in, like, three days. I remember we were with someone, and someone goes, are you excited for Father's Day?

[A]

My eyes got so big because I was so excited because I had been planning it for a month and a half.

[B]

Really? You're not. You're not joking?

[A]

Full Scout honor.

[B]

Oh, that's so funny.

[A]

Okay, what day is Father's Day this year? Like, in general?

[B]

I don't know. It's. Well, it was. It's in June. Like, usually it's in June. I actually thought that you. And it was a sweet gift. I thought you pulled that off in, like, three days.

[A]

Third Sunday of June. Okay. I texted her May 7.

[B]

Okay. That's sweet. I'm so sorry.

[A]

Yeah. You really didn't, like, act like you liked it.

[B]

No, I did.

[A]

And May 7th. I ordered it, and I did. Look, the text message, May 7th.

[B]

I believe you.

[A]

I found her on Instagram, and I gave her my phone number.

[B]

That's so sweet.

[A]

So I actually probably found her a couple days before May 7th. Let's just call it Cinco de Mayo. I was thinking about you.

[B]

Cinco de Mayo. No, I believe you. That was so sweet.

[A]

Well, you never really said thank you, and now I'm really not feeling appreciated.

[B]

No, I did.

[A]

And I sent her a picture of. Look, Look. It's this picture. I sent her these options. I was like, here's three options of him with our children. I didn't even put myself in it. That's how much I love you.

[B]

That's so true. You know what? I love you, but you.

[A]

Her name's Adina.

[B]

No, I believe that you were very intentional about the gift. You're not the best with dates. My birthday, for example. My friend Michael Burns. His birthday's on the second.

[A]

Babe, this was, like, so two years ago that I used to forget your birthday. Not the actual day I forget.

[B]

No, she'd be a day off or two. It was not a big day.

[A]

I always thought your birthday was January 4th. Yes, it's January 3rd.

[B]

Third. And she's got it.

[A]

Guys, it's a hard date.

[B]

It's a hard date and we have four kids.

[A]

Let me ask you, what's Summit's birthday?

[B]

January 8th. 9th. 8th.

[A]

I actually don't remember, babe.

[B]

I do not know when Smith's birthday is. I feel I.

[A]

People, like, ask, so I'm pretty sure.

[B]

Medical forms. I. I guess because I'm so embarrassed at the counter.

[A]

Ninth when they stormed the Capitol.

[B]

Six.

[A]

Okay, good. Then his birthday.

[B]

So Michael Burns birthday. Second. Jordan's third. January 6th. Storm the Capitol. January 9th. Summit's birthday.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Smith is February 18th.

[A]

Good.

[B]

Okay. I remember the. The trick in my mind is it was, like, a couple days after Valentine's Day because we actually got to go to the Valentine's Day dinner. And then.

[A]

See, I always. I always Forget if it's 18th or 28th.

[B]

If you have seven kids, are you expected to remember all their birthdays? My parents always knew my Social Security number. How am I supposed to remember that for four kids?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I don't actually. Do you know your Social Security number?

[A]

Bam. It's. I save it in my phone.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

She hands it out at the park. So if I forget, then at least 17 other people know.

[B]

You're like, if you want to stalk me, here's my phone number, my Social Security number, my address.

[A]

Only if you can remember it when I need it.

[B]

Do you want me to put you on Find My Friends?

[A]

No, I don't do five. My friends. That's, like, creepy.

[B]

Me neither.

[A]

You can. You can follow me, though. I always offended that you never wanted to follow me.

[B]

No, I. I feel like it's like a trust thing. It's like.

[A]

Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah. Like, why would I. Why would I need to follow you? I trust you.

[A]

Safety fair. If I go missing or something.

[B]

Yeah. No one's even stalking you.

[A]

I'm not going anywhere.

[B]

I think you're fine.

[A]

Ouch. I'm gonna remember this conversation next Father's Day.

[B]

I know, I know. That was. That was bad. That was bad.

[A]

Yeah. Anyway, so let's get into the podcast.

[B]

How long has it been going?

[A]

Okay, we're good. No, I have to tell. We have so many Other things to talk about. Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Well, I just want to talk about everything you've been learning and how we started watching that new show.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. The new Little House on the Prair. So don't sleep on it.

[A]

It's awesome, and it's, like, wholesome.

[B]

I've never seen the original nor read

[A]

the books, but in fact, my brother was named after Michael Landon from Little House on the Prairie.

[B]

That's super. Fun fact.

[A]

Yeah, the. The new guy, his name is Charlie, and he's such a man.

[B]

The. The main character. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

You are, too, though.

[B]

Thank you. Yeah, he's, like, building houses with his hands.

[A]

Yeah, but you're, like, building houses, like, in a different way.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

In, like, the modern way. Like, you're the Michael Landon of today.

[B]

Wow. That's, like the nicest thing you ever said to me.

[A]

I know. You're really lucky. After that followers day.

[B]

I know. I didn't even deserve that. So. It's a great show. And it's basically set in a time where western expansion was happening. So unfortunately, the US Government was kind of kicking a lot of the Native Americans off their land. And so what I was telling Haley on our team who lives in Oklahoma, first of all, I asked her if she knew what Oklahoma meant in Choctaw.

[A]

What does it mean?

[B]

Red people. Derogatory.

[A]

Why don't they change the name of the state?

[B]

Well, so here's the thing about Oklahoma. It's kind of a weird state because there were a ton of Native Americans there. Okay. And a ton of land was kind of, like, unfortunately stolen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. In the western or westward expansion. And do you remember that movie Killers of the Flower?

[A]

Oh, my gosh, y', all, this movie is so good. So you have to, like.

[B]

It's three hours.

[A]

You. You have to kind of research the story before you watch it. So that. Because we tried to watch it about a year ago.

[B]

Yeah. But you got to know the story. And I read the book in Anguilla, and the book is by this guy named David Gann, and he writes like. Like narrative non fiction. So, like, he'll tell a story that's, like, historical, and it's really well researched, but he'll tell it in, like, a really, like, narrative format. So there's only a couple authors that do that. He's awesome. And so he wrote the book Killers of the Flower Moon, which is about or which is what the movie's based on. And the movie is based on this tribe of Indians called the Osage Indians. Okay. And during western expansion when the government was basically kicking the Indians off the land, they would do this thing called allotment, which basically means that they parcel up the land and then they'll market across all the colonial states and say, hey, come to Oklahoma. You can get free land.

[A]

Why did they do that?

[B]

Because they. It was just part of, like, them wanting people to disperse, like they were

[A]

trying to steal the land. Well, and so by getting people there, that's.

[B]

I think there's like, a whole history of, like, you know, first we were, like, allies with the Native Americans, and then it was, like, it became about resources. Then it came about land, because the

[A]

ocean had found they had all that land that was, like, had oil.

[B]

Well, so. So the Osage actually had the most, like, fertile, lush land in, like, that Oklahoma, Missouri area. It was a big tribe. And what happened was, as we started pushing the Native Americans further west, the Osage, which is what the book is about, it was a tribe that was like, we are tired of the white man, the US Government, taking our land. And so they were like, we're going to settle our new community and our new tribe on this, like, really rocky, hilly, patchy land. Because they were like, there's no value to this land. It just has water and rocks.

[A]

So they'll leave us alone.

[B]

The. The settlers will leave us alone. Well, they were really smart because they. I think the guy's name was Big Bear. Like, it was the chief of the tribe. He settled with the. The U.S. government. And the one clause they threw in at the end was that we get mineral rights to this land. The Osage get Osage get mineral rights, which no other tribe, like the Choctaw didn't do that. The Cherokee, like, no one did that. And so they end up striking oil on this, like, really rocky land, okay? And they own the mineral rights to it. So all of the sudden, this Native American tribe becomes, like, this crazy wealthy. Like, some of the richest Americans at that time were Osage Indians. So it's kind of like this small town that is, like, you have Osage. Like, there's stories of the Osage, like, were so wealthy that if they got a flat tire on their car, they would just buy a new car, and you would have, like, white men serving the Osage and being their drivers. So the whole movie in the book is this crazy story about how the fb, it was the first major mass murder case of the FBI under Hoover. And what happened was there was this whole cottage industry of fraud who basically of white people marrying Osage, okay, for their money. To get their mineral rights. Because what the government did was because they were so wealthy and they couldn't take back the land. What they did was they basically said, oh, the Osage don't know how to manage their money. So what's, what's that thing that Britney Spears conservatorship. So they created like a law that basically said if you are not full blooded Osage, or I think it may be actually is if you are full blooded.

[A]

Oh, it was.

[B]

You have to have a guardian to manage your money. So for example, if you were Osage and you were like, let's say you had $5 million at the time, you would have to go to your guardian and say, hey, my child is sick, I need some money for medicine.

[A]

It's horrible.

[B]

So it was like a cottage industry of people who controlled the guardianship. But then what happened was a lot of fraud started to happen where basically settlers would come into this community, marry Osage women. And then the conspiracy that started to happen was all these Osage would start dying off.

[A]

Well, what happened was if an Osage woman.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If they married a white man, then

[B]

that could be their guardian.

[A]

The man could be their guardian to manage their. So they were kind of both incentivized to get married, if you think about it. Because then if she married someone that like was good, then she had more access to her money.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

She wouldn't have to go through a stranger.

[B]

They wouldn't have to go through strangers. So she, it like incentivized the marrying to like white men. Right. Or women if it was a man.

[A]

Which of course also diluted their culture and diluted them.

[B]

Yeah. And so, so the, the true story is I forgot what his name is in the movie, but it's played by Robert De Niro. And it was kind of this guy who went. Was like a friend to the Osage. He was known as like the best friend to the Osage because he had, he was the deputy sheriff, he had all the politicians on his payroll. And basically what the FBI found out was this person was. Had doctors on payroll that was, that were poisoning all the Osage. So all, all the women, all of these Osage. Like I think the death rate, the, the normal death rate at that time was like 9%. And if you looked at like the death toll of the, the Osage, it was like 30%.

[A]

Yeah. The Osage women like never lived past like 45 or 50.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Because they were all like dying off from basically being poisoned or their husbands would be poisoning them or like they basically married them so that they could kill them and take all their money.

[B]

Yeah. Like, there were a lot of cases where, like, an Osage would be, like, shot in the chest, and it would be, like, labeled a suicide. So all of these kind of, like, never went investigated. So Hoover, a part of the FBI, kept getting inquiries, and Hoover was really big on his image. And so he sends this, like, Oklahoma Sheriff, and he's like, hey, listen. No. Yeah, Texas Ranger. You're right. Texas Ranger. And one of this Texas Rangers signed up and was like, hey, Hoover was like, if you sign up for this, there's been a lot of FBI agents that have basically been killed off, like, trying to investigate this. So this group of Texas Rangers goes in and basically finds out who was behind this, and it ended up being, like, one of the most major, like, mass murder cases of the Native Americans.

[A]

You got to watch the movie. It's so good.

[B]

And what's crazy. This is the crazy.

[A]

Leonardo DiCaprio is in it, but he does not look good. Let me just tell you.

[B]

No, and what's crazy is, even after they popped this guy and sent him to jail, it still happened after, and it probably still happened before, which means that there was, like, a whole look the other way industry, like, this late.

[A]

So Leonardo's. I don't want to give it away. You just got to go watch it.

[B]

You got to watch it. It's awesome. But Oklahoma, the other thing I learned about. So in Little House of the Prairie, it's about the family moving into the Osage land. And it's like, in the time where the Osage are just now starting to get pushed out. And even in the first episode, there's this line where he's like, we should settle within, like, the rocky lands up here, because then maybe the white people will leave us alone. And so it's all kind of, like,

[A]

part of the same lucky that they found oil there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, wait, I've. This is a dumb question, because I know nothing. When we buy our house, do we own the mineral rights to the land below us?

[B]

I don't know. Yes. I think I. Yes, because we own the land. I think we would own the mineral rights, in addition.

[A]

That's so crazy.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Like.

[B]

But, like, no one's going to drill for oil in our backyard.

[A]

Why not?

[B]

I mean, people go bankrupt trying. It's, like, called wildcatting, where you basically are guessing where oil is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The other thing that I learned, which is relevant to us being UT Longhorns,

[A]

is so when also the UT Here in Nashville is University of Tennessee. It's very confusing.

[B]

I know. It's very confusing. So what I learned is that. So you know how, like, it's called the OU Sooners. Do you know what a Sooner is?

[A]

You. I think you told me, but I kind of forgot. But it's like. Like when they did the land rush, it's people that cheated.

[B]

Yeah. So the way. When they parceled out the land, the way that they would, like, basically let people take this land is there would be a starting line. They would literally blow a whistle, and then people would bum rush. And if you got to the land first, it was yours.

[A]

So you're literally running on horses.

[B]

Horses, wagons, whatever. It was like, literally, like a rush to get this land because it was, like, stolen from the Native Americans. Parcel down. Then it was like.

[A]

So you're telling me that's yours for the taking are cheaters?

[B]

No, no. The Sooners were a group of people. It was like a derogatory term because they skipped the starting line and they would settle on the land before the official start. So it was like, for a long time, it was like a derogatory term. But Oklahoma is basically red people in Choctaw. And then they've got all these Sooner. So it's kind of like such a bad PR state, so that they started a university. And we're like, we're going to rebrand. What a Sooner means. Yeah. And that's why when the Sooners come out of the. The tunnel, they come out on that wagon that they race on. Isn't that crazy history? So Sooners basically are a bunch of cheaters. They're rebranded Cheaters.

[A]

Hook them horns, baby.

[B]

I know.

[A]

How do you think OU explains this? I was gonna say, I think it's so.

[B]

It's so.

[A]

You know, and I would love to hear it in my DMs, because I know I'm going to.

[B]

It's so memory. Hold that. Like, it's like one of those things where it actually was something bad, but then, like, over the course of, like, decades and decades, we just forget the original.

[A]

We're just thinking about. It's just history. They say the university embraces. The university embraces the complexity of our heritage. That's what I mean.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

OU athletics teams are either called Rough Riders or boomers. For 10 years before our current Oklahoma Sooner nickname. They basically are just like, this is complex. We can't explain it on the.

[B]

Yeah, no, for sure.

[A]

I get it.

[B]

For sure.

[A]

Well, you know, things are complex sometimes.

[B]

It's complicated stuff.

[A]

It's usually not black and white.

[B]

Yeah, Never.

[A]

That's interesting. Thank you for that history lesson. You know, we always have to. We always have to give you guys something educational. That's why we are. That's why we are labeled an educational podcast.

[B]

Yes, for sure. The other thing, which I'll say for next episode.

[A]

Oh, you can tell us now.

[B]

The Odyssey's coming out.

[A]

So much of this is going to get cut. It's going to be shorter anyway.

[B]

The Odyssey's coming out.

[A]

Oh, I know. You have, like, a whole, like, boy gang guy gang going to see.

[B]

I bought seven tickets. All my new friends in Nashville are going. Have you ever read it?

[A]

Yeah, we had to. The Ilion.

[B]

Well, that's the precursor.

[A]

Oh, then maybe I didn't. No, we did. We read it. I remember because I sat next to. To this guy that always farted in class when we read the Iliad and the Odyssey. I'll never forget it. Yeah, I mean, we'll talk about my brain, remember?

[B]

We'll talk about it next week.

[A]

But they say that your olfactory senses are, like, the strongest, and you never forget that.

[B]

Yeah, you never forget that. But I'm reading it right now for the first time. I never read it.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Babe, it is so cool.

[A]

Yeah. That's why people liked it. That's why people have to. That's why you have to read it. School.

[B]

It's awesome.

[A]

Yeah. That's why they made a movie after it, too.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. It's. But it's going to be really. I'm super interested to see the movie because, like, is there anything so complicated and there's so much depth that I'm like, how are you actually going to do this in a movie?

[A]

Yeah, but is there anything better than, like, reading the book before the movie comes out? No.

[B]

And I feel so pompous about it.

[A]

I know. And you're like. You're like, this isn't like the book.

[B]

I'm like. I'm like, hey, let me tell you, in the book.

[A]

In the book, this is what happened.

[B]

Yeah, I've actually never done that before. I usually watch the movie and then read the book.

[A]

Oh, see, not me.

[B]

This is the first time I have to. I have to finish reading it by Sunday.

[A]

I would say the only. The only movie that ever, like, lived up to the hype of the books was Twilight.

[B]

Oh, I never read the books or saw the movies.

[A]

Yeah, I wouldn't have expected you to, but that. And maybe Hunger Games is pretty good, too.

[B]

Really? All of them? Harry Potter. Some would say Harry Potter.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I never. I wasn't allowed to read Harry Potter.

[B]

Okay. Your friend Bridget told me something that blew my mind.

[A]

Yeah, tell us.

[B]

Okay. On. On the topic of literature. So this is education. Listen, this blew my mind, okay? She was telling me I'm not a Harry Potter fan. Okay. And. And she was like, you should become one, because basically. Do you know what fan fiction is now?

[A]

You know, I played a few video games growing up, but I'm not that.

[B]

No. So fan fiction is, like, when you. It would be like taking Edward and Jacob from Twilight and then creating, like, sub narratives and subplots and, like, writing, like, fan fiction about the characters.

[A]

So does a fan write it?

[B]

Apparently. There's this book and it's, like, blacklisted, banned, and you can only get it on TikTok, and it's Harry Potter fan fiction. And it, like, got, like, copyright infringement, so they had to shut it down. And so there's this, like, like inner sanctum community that's trying to get this book and it's, like, printed on, like, the black market. And it's all this crazy Harry Potter fan fiction based on, like, the characters and, like.

[A]

Oh, I love it. What's, like, the most popular fan fiction book?

[B]

I don't know. Probably this.

[A]

Look it up. Like, where. Like, where are we? Where's this fan fiction coming from? Is what. Whoa, he's right. Is he. Does he have a microphone?

[B]

Give him the mic. No. Come on.

[A]

Twilight was originally 50 Shades of Gray fan fiction.

[B]

That's actually so crazy.

[A]

I'm mind blown. I never read Fifty Shades of Grey, but should I now? That's crazy.

[B]

Okay. It's called. This book is called Manacled, and it's by Sin Lunya. S E, N L, I, N Y U. And apparently it's super dark and you can only get it on TikTok, but it's all Harry Potter fan fiction.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I just. I. I told her I was like, I'm not a big Harry Potter fan, but, like, I would read Harry Potter just to read that and, like, get into it. That's just so cool.

[A]

That's pretty cool.

[B]

That's like a. That's like a cult. Like a subculture within a subculture.

[A]

Yeah. It's the deep tracks.

[B]

It's the deep tracks.

[A]

I love that. Do I feel like we need something like that in, like, the influencer industry?

[B]

That's such a good idea.

[A]

Yeah, I have them sometimes. But how do we do it? Like, I don't know.

[B]

Well, you gotta go. You Gotta go Gossip Girl with it.

[A]

Oh, it's like. So then, like, there's a Gossip Girl that comes out, and it's like, who is it? But it's actually me. And, like, I reveal everything about everyone.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Because I know some stuff.

[B]

Yes. That would pop.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, like, also would it, though, because now everyone's, like, in influencers. They're like, who cares?

[A]

But it would have to be from someone that actually knows, and that's what would be so fascinating. But I would never do that. Because it's wrong.

[B]

Yeah, no, like.

[A]

But, like, if I did, I'm honestly

[B]

surprised that there are not more whistleblowers.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good call in the.

[B]

In the creator space.

[A]

Well, I think it's kind of like.

[B]

It's like the. It's like the celebrity industry, like, you know, that they all know crafty about each other.

[A]

Yeah. Like, we all, like.

[B]

But they just. It doesn't leak really, that much from, like, within. It's always, like, speculation and, like, lore.

[A]

People from the outside that. But you know what? Maybe it does actually leak a lot more than we think. Just, it's all on Reddit.

[B]

About celebrities.

[A]

Yeah. Or just, like, people.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

Guys, thank you for listening to this episode. We have to have a hard cut because now we're in a studio and we have a time limit on things. But. But, you know, make sure you check us out on Instagram and TikTok Deinfluence podcast. We post some really funny moments over there. Thank you to these eight people in the room. No, but thank you guys for listening, and we'll talk to you next week. All right, bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.