You Won't Believe Influencers Actually Do This...

Summary

Podcast Summary: "You Won't Believe Influencers Actually Do This..."
De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan
Release Date: May 15, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan, hosts Dani and Jordan delve into the often surprising and humorous behaviors of influencers. Drawing from their extensive experience in the influencer industry, they share personal anecdotes, discuss industry insights, and engage in candid conversations about the evolving landscape of social media and celebrity culture.

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Personal Dynamics and Leadership Styles

Effective Leadership and Team Culture

The episode opens with a playful exchange about a secret group chat named "Winner Circle," highlighting Jordan's leadership style focused on celebrating both successes and failures to foster a positive and risk-taking culture.

• Jordan (B): "I've created a culture where failure is okay as long as you're taking good risks. I’m a beautiful, great leader."

• Dani (A): "You're a great leader. I'm a great follower, actually. I'm a great independent. Don't tell me what to do." [00:20]

Manipulative Strategies in Relationships

Dani and Jordan humorously discuss subtle manipulation tactics to influence each other without direct confrontation, emphasizing the playful nature of their relationship.

• Jordan (B): "You have to manipulate her to make her believe it's her idea." [01:24]

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Branding and Aesthetic Disagreements

Lake House Branding Conflict

A significant portion of the conversation revolves around differing opinions on branding their lake house, "Ramirez Ranchita." Dani prefers a more classic, nautical aesthetic with serif fonts, while Jordan opts for a modern, industrial look. This disagreement exemplifies the challenges of collaborative creative processes.

• Jordan (B): "It's divvy colors. Someone we know did this, but off of my direction." [03:43]

• Dani (A): "It looks like a cottage, not a ranchita." [06:02]

Compromise and Collaboration

Despite their differing visions, Dani and Jordan express a willingness to collaborate and find common ground, showcasing their commitment to both their personal relationship and professional endeavors.

• Jordan (B): "We’re gonna collaborate... We'll figure it out." [08:46]

• Dani (A): "We just want to add little things that make our house reflect our personality." [08:44]

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Influencer Experiences and Industry Insights

Attending the ACMs and Interacting with Influencers

Dani recounts her experience attending the American Country Music Awards (ACMs) with friends, detailing interactions with fellow influencers and celebrities. She highlights the down-to-earth nature of country artists compared to Hollywood stars, emphasizing genuine connections over superficial fame.

• Dani (A): "ACMs might be one of my favorite things I've ever done as a creator." [53:34]

• Jordan (B): "It's awesome to see influencers from different circles and learn from each other." [40:14]

Humbling Moments on the Red Carpet

Dani shares heartfelt moments from the ACMs, including meeting songwriter Jesse Joe Decker and witnessing celebrities' authentic personalities. She contrasts this with the often pretentious behavior observed in Hollywood red carpets.

• Dani (A): "Nicole Kidman was walking down, giving people hugs... She was so delightful to be around." [68:44]

• Jordan (B): "The influencer section is just so different; they're more grounded." [43:58]

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Technical Discussions: AI Data Centers and Power Consumption

Challenges in Building AI Data Centers

Dani and Jordan transition to a technical discussion about the logistics of establishing AI data centers, particularly focusing on the challenges related to power consumption and infrastructure.

• Jordan (B): "The biggest challenge to building AI data centers is not finding the land... it's the power." [48:39]

• Dani (A): "Latency is how long it takes for the signal to travel. Proximity to carrier hotels helps reduce latency." [50:37]

Future of AI Infrastructure

They explore the potential shift towards remote data centers and the implications for the power grid, highlighting ongoing innovations to mitigate these issues.

• Jordan (B): "Now the biggest issue is we can't put in any more fibers... power is now the biggest issue." [51:10]

• Dani (A): "With the lake house Starlink, we're exploring alternative solutions." [51:30]

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Conspiracy Theories and Historical Insights

The Red Pill Metaphor and Gary Webb's Investigation

Jordan introduces the concept of the "red pill" as a metaphor for becoming aware of underlying conspiracies. He discusses journalist Gary Webb's investigation into the CIA's involvement in the crack epidemic, highlighting the clash between mainstream media and investigative journalism.

• Jordan (B): "Propaganda branded us as conspiracy theorists... Becoming red pilled means you're starting to see how the dots connect." [19:42]

• Dani (A): "Gary Webb died by suicide after exposing CIA actions. It's appalling how history isn't taught thoroughly." [24:42]

Impact on Personal Beliefs

Dani shares how engaging with these historical events and conspiracy theories has influenced her perspectives, leading to a more questioning and analytical mindset.

• Dani (A): "I feel like I can't believe anything anymore. What else do I need to question?" [25:09]

• Jordan (B): "Danny is so close to becoming red pilled. She's learning so much about these hidden histories." [26:33]

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Product Endorsements and Advertisements

Throughout the episode, Dani and Jordan incorporate sponsored segments promoting various products. These include Beekeepers Naturals, Haya Health, Huggies Little Snugglers, Quince, and Minnow. They seamlessly integrate these endorsements into their conversations, maintaining the podcast's conversational tone.

Note: As per instructions, advertisements and non-content sections have been omitted from this summary.

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Lifestyle and Personal Stories

Jordan's Obsession with the Perfect Bathroom Experience

Jordan shares his meticulous efforts to enhance the bathroom experience at their lake house, showcasing his attention to detail and commitment to guest satisfaction.

• Jordan (B): "I've been trying to figure out exactly how to make the perfect breakfast and bathroom experience for our guests." [83:30]

• Dani (A): "He put truffle oil in our pancakes and eggs, thinking it was a gourmet touch. It was disastrous but hilarious." [88:05]

Dani's Night Out and Red Carpet Experiences

Dani recounts her time at the ACMs, including unexpected interactions with celebrities and influencers. She reflects on the imbalance between genuine talent and the superficial allure of celebrity status.

• Dani (A): "Lainey Wilson was incredibly sweet and down to earth. It was refreshing compared to the typical Hollywood scene." [73:42]

• Jordan (B): "It's fascinating to see how different circles, like country music and influencers, intersect and interact at these events." [40:14]

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Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

As the podcast wraps up, Dani and Jordan emphasize the importance of maintaining authenticity in both their personal lives and professional endeavors. They encourage listeners to follow them on social media for more engaging content and insights.

• Dani (A): "Follow us on Instagram and TikTok for more laughs and knowledge about topics like the Iran-Contra conflict." [92:25]

• Jordan (B): "We're always here to share our experiences and help you navigate the influencer landscape." [83:30]

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jordan (B): "I've created a culture where failure is okay as long as you're taking good risks. I’m a beautiful, great leader." [00:59]

• Dani (A): "We need to support whatever journey is best for each individual." [05:26]

• Jordan (B): "Beekeepers Naturals mission is to reinvent the medicine cabinet." [19:00]

• Dani (A): "I love living in a place where everybody loves being an American." [75:31]

• Jordan (B): "The biggest challenge to building AI data centers is not finding the land... it's the power." [48:39]

• Dani (A): "Red carpet events are so awkward... but celebrating accomplishments is still special." [68:00]

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Conclusion

This episode of De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan offers a blend of personal narratives, industry insights, and humorous exchanges, providing listeners with an authentic look into the lives of two seasoned influencers. Through their discussions, Dani and Jordan highlight the complexities of influencer culture, the importance of authenticity, and the ever-evolving challenges within the digital landscape.

For more engaging content and behind-the-scenes insights, be sure to follow De-Influenced with Dani + Jordan on Instagram and TikTok.

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Disclaimer: This summary excludes advertisements and promotional segments as per podcast guidelines.

Transcript

[A]

Foreign. The following podcast is a Dear Media production. Hello. Welcome back to your favorite podcast. I just found out Jordan is in a secret group chat without me of divvy employees.

[B]

Well, it's like. It's a. It's my special forces team. Well, not only my Delta team.

[A]

Not only that. He named the group chat winner circle after my favorite song that I always use for my pump up song. It's true that I played before I played in the celebrity MLB game.

[B]

It's actually pretty and it doesn't cuss.

[A]

It's so positive.

[B]

It is a very positive song.

[A]

It's a very positive song.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm a winner.

[B]

Well, I stole it from you. And now every you named. And now every. Every Friday, we have a winner circle meeting. It's 30 minutes, and everyone gets to say their successes, but also their failures. Because I've. I've created a culture where failure is okay as long as you're taking good risk that I'm beautiful. Great leader.

[A]

You're a great leader. I'm a great follower, actually. I'm a great independent. Don't tell me what to do.

[B]

No, if you tell Danny what to do, it's over. You have to. You have to manipulate her to make her believe it's her idea.

[A]

Like, for example, leave the garage door open for two months and let birds come in and plant nests so that Danny, when she wants to work out, gets inspired to clean it all on her own without you having to ask her to do it.

[B]

Yeah. Or one would say, like, danny has a mishap in the lake house bathroom. And then she then is like, we need a plunger or poo pourri in every bathroom.

[A]

We.

[B]

This is like, I think I won the debate in the comments, Dreaden.

[A]

No, you didn't win, okay? Because we're not doing it.

[B]

Another thing about Danny is she can never accept an L. No, I can.

[A]

I. I did accept the el. Like, when I got mad about the nan stand that you ordered, I was so mad at Jordan because you literally.

[B]

Said, well, I'm usually right.

[A]

I did, but I was wrong that time I told you. I was so upset. This is like a story within a story within a story. But I was so upset about this. We needed another nan at stand, and he ordered this big box that I was like, jordan, you ordered a whole another nanit system. I was like, feel how heavy this is. This is not just the stand. I was like, return it right now. And he's like, this is just the stand. I'm like, jordan, look at this. It says, camera not included. And I was like, oh, you were right. Sorry.

[B]

So the. After our debate about the plungers, this is what happened on Tuesday of this week. So after you got mad at me about ordering the plungers for every bathroom, I get a text at 2:39, Babe, please don't put these in the bathrooms. The stainless steel is so tacky and ugly. It feels like you're at a cheap Mexican restaurant. None of the finishes are stainless steel, so it's really tacky and ugly and gross. We need to return these or I'm going to throw them away. They're disgusting. Because she saw the Amazon order that. I just was like, she's wrong. I'm right. I'm gonna order them.

[A]

No.

[B]

And she'll never know. Hold on, hold on. Wait.

[A]

Can I just say, he ordered heavy duty plunger, stainless steel with a black handle, and it comes in a set with a toilet brush on one side and the plunger on the other side. It's like you would walk in and see at Six Flags because it's, like, industrial.

[B]

Well, while we're at it, I think I should show you the new branding I have for the Ramirez Ranchita or Lake House.

[A]

It's also not called the Ramirez Ranchita.

[B]

Well, I got the branding done, so here it is. Let me see. I wanted to show you this live because I knew if I didn't, it would probably turn into a fight. But you kind of have a better attitude, so I thought it was, like, really fun. Right? It's divvy colors. No. Well, be nice, because someone that we know did this, but off of my direction.

[A]

Well, can I see it?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that one's fun. That one's fun. And while she's looking and reviewing the branding, I. So I was at Merit Coffee this morning, and, Danny, you'll never believe this. It's so good that the things I talk about on this podcast people care about.

[A]

This looks like the Brady Bunch.

[B]

Yeah, that's the fun part of it. It's kind of fun, right? But I was at Merit this morning, and I was ordering coffee. Listen, Are you listening?

[A]

Can I just. Can I give my input on this?

[B]

Well, let me talk about this first. So I was at Merit Coffee this morning. You know, I was at the cashier. They were there, the producers were there, and some lady came up to me and was like, oh, my gosh, I was just listening to your podcast about these cups. And she was like, they really are such good cups. And we just sat there and we talked about the cups. And I go, hey, do you want to know who manufactures them? Because I can tell you.

[A]

And.

[B]

And the employees were just dumbfounded. They were like, who is this guy who kept asking about the cups? But she cared.

[A]

Where are the cups manufactured?

[B]

It's called graphic packaging. Shout out if anyone works there. I would love a lower minimum order quantity than 100,000, but I would love to put the Ramirez Ranchita branding on this particular cup. It's an eco friendly cup, which I care about the environment.

[A]

But what about the fact that most people are drinking, like, sodas, things that need ice? Like, I'm thinking styrofoam cups.

[B]

Those are on my list too, but I haven't gotten to my favorite one of those. I'm going to all the restaurants in Lakewood and I'm testing the Styrofoam.

[A]

What about just like the Chick Fil? A styrofoam cup. You know, everybody loves that.

[B]

Oh, that's a good one. That's a great idea. I'm very open to your influence. You open to my influence?

[A]

It's hard to say.

[B]

Yeah, the answer is no. And because you're not open to my influence, this is why I go around you.

[A]

Okay, that's fair. The thing is though, we. The. I think what's hard for me is I've told you since day one, I didn't want to name it the Ramirez Ranchita because it had no Latin, Spanish, Hispanic babe, like, look to it. Like, we are. It looks like a cottage. Like, that's in the northeast.

[B]

We are the Latin influence in the lake house. But our house, like our family. No, we are fluent in Spanish. Minus me.

[A]

Looks like a cottage, not a ranchita.

[B]

I know, but here's.

[A]

And it's kind of like we have these really nice bathrooms with stainless steel plungers. You know, it's like, it's just not really matching, like, the vibe.

[B]

But here's the problem sometimes with you is that you might be right.

[A]

No, I know that I am, but.

[B]

But then what's the solution? You're such a. You're such a. Like, this is the wrong thing. And then I'm like, okay, well, what do you think? And then you're like, I don't know, I'll think about it. And then you. You always forget to think about it.

[A]

Well, what about, like, the mayor's cottage?

[B]

That is a boring ace name if you ask me, but sure.

[A]

But I just feel like the branding should also go along with, like, the northeast vibe. Like, I would say this is giving very like, it's more modern, contemporary, but, like, I think we need, like, a serif font, like, with. You know what I mean? Like, classier, because that's, like, the vibe of the home. It's like, it gives Nantucket. It gives, like, you know, like, nautical vibes.

[B]

This is, like, so giving vibes of when we first started Divi. Because it's like, you're. Here's the thing about you, and I'll say this publicly. You're a genius. You really are a genius. But to bring your genius out is a very excruciating process.

[A]

But you haven't even sat down and tried to collaborate with me. You really haven't.

[B]

That's true. My, my.

[A]

You haven't. We haven't sat down and been like, let's think of a name or, like, let's throw things out. You just go around me and then do it. And then I get upset because it's my lake house too.

[B]

I'm a very bad collaborator.

[A]

And I really care about the cups in our house, and I really care that they're Styrofoam because I like to have ice in my drink, not. I don't want to drink Coke from a paper cup.

[B]

Okay, I understand.

[A]

We.

[B]

We'll talk about this later. But point is, is that the comments really understood the. The thoughtfulness that went into my design of the bathrooms with the poo pourri and the plungers.

[A]

Okay, I get it. But, like, here's the other thing. I'm cool with the poo pourri. I just didn't want that branding. I want it in, like, a pretty glass bottle.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

We'll.

[B]

We'll figure it out.

[A]

We're gonna.

[B]

You know, we're gonna collaborate.

[A]

It's just, like, fun. It's like, little things, like, details that are fun to add to your house and make it, like your own personality.

[B]

I know. We'll figure it out.

[A]

I just don't want stainless steel.

[B]

I know. You really. I came home from my walk after this really charged text thread.

[A]

I was also on my period, so I know.

[B]

That's why I was messing with you, because you.

[A]

Good job.

[B]

I was so done with this period. I was like, you know what? I'm going scorched earth. I was like, I'm done tiptoeing around this period. Walking on eggshells. It's like, I'm dead ass.

[A]

Well, there's a new pope.

[B]

Yeah. Wait, was the conclave televised? Like, were there. Was there a lot of news coverage on the process of the conclave? How long did the Conclave last? Because, you know, if you watch the movie the Conclave, which I recommended on the last podcast.

[A]

You did love that one.

[B]

It's a great one. I wonder what the longest conclave in history has been. Will you chat GPT then?

[A]

Yes, of course. Why did Trump post a picture of him?

[B]

Like, yeah, AI Trump, Pope.

[A]

Like, what was that whole thing about?

[B]

I don't really know. I think the White House is really leaning into meme culture on their socials.

[A]

I mean, I'm not, like, I'm not Catholic, but I feel like that would kind of be a little bit disrespectful. Like, I don't know. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, probably.

[A]

I don't know. I just. I just feel like it's, like, not a good look.

[B]

Yeah, it's tough because you have. You have people who understand meme culture, and then you have people who don't, and the people who don't are very confused.

[A]

My first thing is, like, just don't go with, like, nothing religion related.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just, like, don't go there. You know, this is like, stay away from that one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Especially around Easter time.

[B]

What's the longest conclave?

[A]

Three years.

[B]

No, that can't be. That's for real.

[A]

Like, they couldn't agree on a 1268-1271 in 2000. Three years. A thousand days in Viterbo. Viderbo, Italy.

[B]

What? What? How long did this Conclave last? Two days. Whoa. They were really united on that.

[A]

They knew what they wanted.

[B]

The Holy Spirit was moving and grooving. It was like, Chicago.

[A]

Chicago. And he's like, the first American Pope, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What do we know about him?

[A]

I said Elias text. I said, new Pope. Congrats. And the confetti went on.

[B]

So, like, Catholics today are celebrating this new Pope. Okay. On the scale of liberal, conservative, moderate, where does he fall? Because wasn't Pope the previous Pope, like, a little bit more liberal? The scriptures are, you know, we got another lib Pope. Yeah, we love it, I think. I don't know. Not Catholic.

[A]

Yeah. So that's big news. What else is going on?

[B]

I don't know. Honestly, I've had a really busy week.

[A]

What you been up to?

[B]

Well, we're looking for some new executives for Divi. So it was, like, a lot of interviews, a lot of conversations. Yesterday I was at Park House, which is like the Dallas Soho House.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I was there for nine hours. They literally cheered when I left. Did you know that? I told. Did I tell you this?

[A]

No.

[B]

The. The Ladies, downstairs, get out of here. No, I really. I. It's really kind of been haunting me. Why? They were clapping when I was leaving. And I think the joke was that I had been there for nine hours.

[A]

Because they were, like, so proud of you. Or, like, truly, get out of here.

[B]

No, I think it was like, I overstayed my welcome because I went from, like, an interview to dinner, and then I was just, like, hanging out with some friends there. But, yeah, it was kind of weird. It's really haunted me. The other thing that haunted me was that when one of the executives came from out of town, Teresa from our team, our divi team, was there, and she, the lady who was from out of town, was like, oh, my gosh, this is such a Dallas place. Because it is. It's kind of like a vibey, trendy, hoity toity place. And I was like, I know. This is, like, so Dallas. And then Teresa goes, jordan, like, you're so Dallas.

[A]

You're so Dallas.

[B]

And it was hard on me because in my mind, I'm not.

[A]

You're so Dallas. I always.

[B]

But I think I. I am.

[A]

You're.

[B]

I've really thought about it a lot.

[A]

You're very Dallas. I always tell everybody that. I'm like, jordan is more Dallas than I am, for sure.

[B]

Wait, so what makes me so Dallas?

[A]

You do all the Dallas things. You hang with all the Dallas people. You hang out. You, like, are part of these, like, prominent. You know, all these prominent people that are important people in Dallas. Like, you hang with those people.

[B]

But I always thought, like, I was.

[A]

Like, you know, you know, business owners. Like, I don't leave my house. I just clean my garage, you know?

[B]

But I just thought I was, like, on the fringe of it. Like, it's like, oh, yeah, you are.

[A]

But that's so Dallas.

[B]

This Austinite is just, like, you know, trapped in Dallas. Like, that's kind of how I saw myself.

[A]

But then you also, like, go to all the Dallas places. Like, you're out about. You, like, walk White Rock. You go to your coffee shop every day. So go to Park House. You go to Javier.

[B]

This is your fault. We could have stayed in Austin. You converted me.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. You know, I would move to Austin in, like, a heartbeat.

[B]

I know.

[A]

No, you're very Dallas.

[B]

Are you very Dallas?

[A]

I think I can be. Like, I'll put it on. Like, I'm like, I can be a Dallas gal if you want me to.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I don't think it's in my soul. Yeah, I'm Like a. And I'm not even a wannabe. I'm a. I'm like a. Try hard.

[B]

Yeah, no, for sure.

[A]

Like, I'm like, oh, I have to be a Dallas girl today. Okay, I'll like slap myself a couple times and I'm like, get it together. Go put on your David Yurman, you know, another big.

[B]

So. So, yeah, my week was kind of boring. Like, I didn't get to like, read anything interesting or do anything. Like, usually I come to this podcast, Iranian conflict. We did well. So let's tell the whole story. So, Danny, this is so interesting. Danny is so close to becoming red pilled.

[A]

What does that mean again?

[B]

You know, like in the Matrix when he's like, neo, do you.

[A]

For some reason when you say red pill, the only thing I can think about is like, you. I'm becoming a communist.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Well, aren't they like, red?

[B]

Yeah, but like, no, this is from the Matrix.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

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[A]

Okay.

[B]

He get. He offers Neo a red pill or a blue pill and he basically says you take the blue pill, you go back to sleep. You live in this kind of simulation. You will always have this thinking that something is not right. You take the red pill and your your world will basically open and he basically like leaves the Matrix, which is like a simulation, and then he opens his eyes to the truth of what reality is.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So when people say you're becoming red pilled, it's like you're becoming a conspiracy theorist. Well, they brand. They branded us as that the CIA, to be clear.

[A]

But when you're CIA deserves it. They're a little corrupt.

[B]

No, no, they branded us conspiracy theorists because they wanted us to be seen as fringe crazy people. But most people now, yeah, propaganda are becoming red pilled means like you're getting past the traditional propaganda mainstream media narratives and you're starting to see all the dots and how they connect my thing.

[A]

With like all conspiracies and not. Sorry, not all of them, but a lot of them. It's like two things can be true at once.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

You know, so like, yes, we could have gone to war to stop communism, but there might have also been some financial gains of going to war, which I'm not saying is right or wrong. Like it's.

[B]

It's wrong, obviously, before the soapbox. Let me explain what happened because you're about to get on it. Okay, okay. And I love when you get on it.

[A]

No, I'm not like a little.

[B]

Little newbie. Little cutesy newbie.

[A]

Red pill bad. My bad.

[B]

So, so we, we. So the like going to and from the lake is about an hour and a half. And listen, I just pump my wife full of conspiracy theories, propaganda, red pill behavior. And at first she was like, oh my gosh, the telepathy taped. I'm so angry about it. But now she's form an opinion whether.

[A]

You like it or not.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. And so, so now I turn on these podcasts and then I see her. She's chachi pting everything Gary Webb and she.

[A]

Who is this journalist? What is he believing?

[B]

And so the podcast we were listening to was Ian Carroll. Yeah, was with Ian Carroll.

[A]

Very interesting, man.

[B]

It was way more interesting than I thought because I actually thought he was a crazy fringe conspiracy conspiracy theorist. He was very like, well researched, like, pretty.

[A]

I will say I lost a little respect for both of them when they started talking about the telepathy tapes and how these people were. Yeah, actually telepathic. I was like, Joe Rogan. Like, I have lost all credibility in you because he also had Ken Kim Dickerson. What's her name?

[B]

Yeah, Kai.

[A]

Kai Dickerson on his podcast. And she. And he was like, man, this lady's telling me about. He's like, it's amazing. They have these telepathic abilities. I'm like, Joe like, stop. I can't now. I don't trust Joe either.

[B]

Yeah, we'll give her. Give Danny. That was. That was the. Those were the deep tracks.

[A]

You weren't ready for those because they're just ridiculous.

[B]

So anyway, so Danny is constantly. She's learning so much, and she's like, whoa, like, should we have been in the Vietnam War? Whoa, like, should we have done this? What should we do? So I feel like you're getting, like, a new history lesson and you love to learn.

[A]

I do love swearing. I just forget it all.

[B]

Love to learn. So Danny's like, hey, we should watch this movie that I researched called Kill the Messenger. And it's about.

[A]

On this. On the podcast, they were talking about this journalist named Gary Webb, who basically exposed the CIA for selling dope into Los Angeles to raise money to fund the Nicaragua. Nicaraguan. I can never say that word. Nicaragua. Nicaraguan.

[B]

Rebels.

[A]

Rebels. To fight, like, essentially these communists.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so. But they were going around. Well, we don't know if Reagan actually knew or not, but they were going around, quote, unquote, the president and going around. And because it was like, I guess it was illegal at that time to, like, fund the money, so they had to find the money.

[B]

So Reagan was. So the history, not opinion. The history was Reagan was elected. And the opposition in Congress to Reagan. Reagan, like, branded himself as, like, being hard on communism. Right. So he felt that the Soviet Union was getting a foothold in Nicaragua. And he said, we need to stop this and cut this off at the head. Congress, probably for political reasons, was like, we're not going to fund your little Contra war. Yes, the Contras were the rebels that were going to overthrow who Reagan perceived to be the communist dictator of Nicaragua.

[A]

Nicaragua.

[B]

So then what happens is the CIA gets involved and they come.

[A]

This is like a fact. This is not like conspiracy.

[B]

No, this is like history.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So they come up with a scheme to raise money to fund the war behind and going around Congress's back. And the way that they did it was they allowed for dope runners from South America to come into the US.

[A]

To, like, mainly southern Los Angeles.

[B]

Yes, to southern Los Angeles. Southern Los Angeles. And basically they dumped dope into southern Los Angeles, make money. They started cutting it down to create crack, which then became the crack epidemic, which predominantly affected black communities, the black communities. And then it came out through Gary Webb that broke this story that all of this was CIA backed, you know, to fund this war that destroyed this, you know, basically lives and generations of families in California, which at the Time.

[A]

When Gary Webb is trying to expose that the CIA is involved with this. Like, all these journalists, all the media just gaslight him beyond belief. He loses his job. He, like, has absolutely no credibility. The CIA is like, put, like, just infiltrating, like, so much propaganda. But at the same time, the black community is like, look, this is not how we were. Like, they're ruining our communities. So they were kind of, like, happy with Gary Webb, you know? So anyway, I was just like, this is appalling. I was just like, it's so annoying how we don't learn this side of history in. In like, like in our classes. Like, you don't you learn that America is this, like. I mean, don't get me wrong, America's the greatest country ever. But, like, there's some pretty shady ish that goes down that we don't know about. And so the fact that this was, like a fact that came out, I was like, what else do I need to question? Like, you just. You. I just feel like I can't believe anything anymore. Because here's the thing. Here's another thing. This is where. Okay, this is what really got me, y' all. So Gary Webb is the journalist that comes out with this, like, 10 years later, he dies by suicide by shooting himself twice in the head. Who kills himself by shooting twice in the head. Have you ever heard of that? No. Somebody killed him. Somebody killed him and then they ruled it as a suicide.

[B]

So anyway.

[A]

Because he knew some other stuff too, I bet.

[B]

Yeah. So Danny's red pilled now. That's. That's a big update from this week.

[A]

Yeah. So then we got really into that. And then, like, then the. And then we watched a movie called Kill the Messenger. It basically covered this story because then that's my favorite things, like when I'm. I'm learning about a subject and then there's a movie about it. I mean, like, oh, what a Friday.

[B]

Sign me up.

[A]

That is a Friday night with some popcorn right there. So we did that, and that was great. And then we watched a really great movie called. I liked it. I don't know if you liked it. Warfare. Tell them about that one.

[B]

Well, you found it, so you tell them.

[A]

Okay, so that one was.

[B]

We have really. I just want to say this about this podcast. We have really good recommendations for books and podcasts. Cups.

[A]

I mean, we're really like the best podcast.

[B]

We are truly providing so much value.

[A]

I truly feel bad for everybody that does listen to us now.

[B]

Warfare is a little graphic.

[A]

It's pretty gory but it's based on a true story and it's edit dedicated to this guy Elliot, who actually the producer of the movie fought in the Iraqi war. Like in. In Iraq. Anyway, it's a group of Navy SEALs that are on this, like, just simple surveillance operation. The operation goes wrong, goes Arai. And why were they sent and to be in Iraq? Oh, this was the other controversy. Should we not go there about the poppy fields?

[B]

Not today.

[A]

Okay, the poppy fields.

[B]

And later.

[A]

What's the poppy is cocaine.

[B]

No, poppy is heroin. Opium.

[A]

Opium. They. Ian Carol thinks it's opium war. We won't go there either. It's not cool.

[B]

Yeah, not. Not today.

[A]

Not today. Bad idea.

[B]

Easement.

[A]

He's been. Anyway, so it's about this, like, operation that just goes totally wrong. And. But it's really. It's crazy because this whole movie is filmed in kind of, like, real time. So the whole movie is exactly like what happens in those 90 minutes. And it's told, or it's like the story is told through the memories of the guys that were there. And at the end of the movie, they show you exactly, like, the picture and then the actor that played them and.

[B]

And, like, a lot of them were involved in the production, like, re. Remembering. I think they shot it, like, where it all happened. Right. In Iraq.

[A]

No, it looked like it was in, like, Hollywood.

[B]

Oh, a set.

[A]

Like a set.

[B]

Anyway, like, it's.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's a cool concept because it's basically like a war movie from memory. From a platoon or. I don't know the term.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. I just. We love a war movie, but I.

[B]

Will say I think the movie's called Warfare because they really wanted to capture, like, the true real side, not the cinematic side of warfare.

[A]

Like the.

[B]

And so it's very real in terms of, like, the. The emotions, the gore. But it's. It's good.

[A]

The gore. Yeah, for sure.

[B]

Have you noticed that movies are getting shorter? Like, movies on average now are about an hour and, like 20 minutes, an hour and a half. And I think that they're doing that strategically because we don't have attention span.

[A]

Yeah. And maybe, like, lower budgets, too.

[B]

Sure. But, like, also, like, I think if you're gonna populate Netflix with thousands of movies, like, I don't know about you, but my attention span is so rewired now that I have trouble committing to a movie.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

I've never done that.

[B]

And it's like I almost am like. But I'll never go back and watch the whole movie after I like get sucked into this scene that's like populating on TikTok. It's really weird because it's like, kind of fascinating to explain, like, our attention spans, like, we're willing to watch the middle part of a movie because it sucks us in on tick tock. But then, like, we won't go back to, like, watch the whole thing, the long form. And what's also crazy and so genius about these accounts that do this is they. They refuse to tell you what movie it is. And the reason they do that is because they want you to go into the comment section. There's this like, weird subculture is you post a movie clip and then you go into the comments and it's like everyone is united that they're not going to say what the name of the movie is. Does this ever happen to you? And it's all, it's all engagement bait because it's basically like creating engagement of like everyone trying to figure out what the movie is.

[A]

So I want everybody to open their Instagram right now and go to the Instagram. You don't have to. I'm just talking to the people.

[B]

Oh, with camera phone.

[A]

No. And actually don't do this right now because then you'll stop listening to our podcast. There is an Instagram called the Film Zone and you'll have to follow it. It is the best Instagram.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Ever. It shows you the scene of the movie and then juxtapot, like right next to it. It will show you the behind the scenes of how they created the shot. It is fascinating to see, like, all the behind the scenes. It is the coolest. It's like, I will spend hours on that Instagram account. I comment so much on them. They, like, followed me back.

[B]

You know what also gets Danny? What gets Danny going is. No, no, the. The variety in the actor circles.

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

Like, when all of the, like, Robert Denir, Adam Sandler are all at that round table and they're talking about the art of acting.

[A]

You know, I love that.

[B]

Tell them where to find that because people will love that.

[A]

Oh, those are just. But those clips just come up. No, I like to watch actors on actors.

[B]

That's what it's called, right?

[A]

Yeah, I think it is. By variety. I can't remember. But it's like they put like, two of the most random. It'll be like Nicole Kidman and Glen Powell.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or it'll be like, like just the most random two actors. You never think you would see them together. It's like Queen Latifah and Matthew McConaughey. And those aren't real. I'm just making this up. But, like. And you're just like, what are they going to talk about? And then they talk about the art of acting and they talk about, like, these different. It is just like acting. The different techniques and how they prepared for movies and how they. It's so fascinating to see, like, this is like a true art. And I know that, like, sometimes we look at these actors and we're like these celebrities, you know, you call them just celebrities, but it's like, they are really talented.

[B]

We should create the influencer by influencer circle. And you, you mommy bloggers just sit and you're like, yeah, like, how do you think about your day?

[A]

But that's what's so interesting is you get. You put.

[B]

Or how do you think about the psychology of what you're putting out there?

[A]

You put like a Markel Washington with like a Danny Austin, you know, and then. And then we sit down at a roundtable and I'm like, telling. Tell me about your demo. So this is actually a really good example. So I do want to get into the acms, because I have some. It was so fun. It was probably one of my favorite nights ever. But I sat next to or behind a ton of really cool tiktokers. They're kind of like the cool kids. The cool kids. I was like, why am I here? Type of thing. And I sat behind these two guys, super tall. They're probably like 6, 5, 6, 6. And these two dudes. And I'm like, trying to figure out, like, all the. Out of the, like, seven or eight people sitting in front of me. Like, 80 of them are men. They're all male influencers on Tick Tock. And I'm like, this is so different because typically in the past, it's always been female influencers that get invited to events. So we're all talking about, like, what do all these guys do? Well, so come to find out, there's Markel Washington, who's, like, literally the funniest. I love him, y' all. Like, he's so funny. He's like 10 million on tick Tock. And I'd recognized him before. There was another guy in front of me. He. I cannot remember his name right now. He's so sweet. He was a. He's an Olympic athlete. He competed in Tokyo and Paris. He's a diver, and he was so sweet. He started, like, diving when he was, like, 5 years old, and he's. He's, like, just amazing. He's also on TikTok and then these two really tall dudes, and they look. They're just like, look really cool. Other than Tiana Robillard's boyfriend, what's his. His name?

[B]

Adrian.

[A]

Adrian.

[B]

I'm so up in the drama.

[A]

Adrian was there with Tiana Robard also. Like, can we just. Can we just take a moment for Tiana Roblard and just, like, I just want to say.

[B]

No, I've called this for that.

[A]

She is the girl that I would have died to be when I was, like, younger. She is the coolest girl, like, in person. She just has a cool personality. Like, she's so confident. She's cool. Cool. She's genuine. She's funny. She's.

[B]

Oh, if I could bet. I told. I've said this on the podcast. If I could bet on any influencer.

[A]

Tiana and her and agent are so cute.

[B]

I hope she has a good team behind her, because you could really do a lot there.

[A]

Well, and a lot of people don't know this, but she, like, was, like, one of our day one employees at Divi. Not employees, contractors. She worked. She created content for Debbie. Yeah, she did our Tik Tok. So I saw her last night, and that was the first time I'd ever met her in real life. And she's so beautiful. Like, she's so pretty online, but she's so pretty, like, in real life. And I was like, tiana, oh, my gosh. And so we hug. I'm like, I cannot believe I've never met you. And I'm like, girl, divvy, day one, she's like, yep, I Used to be out there on the tick tocks with all the divi scoffs here. I was like, I know we miss you. I was like, can we hire you back anyway? Yeah, yeah, but anyway. So then I see these two tall guys and I'm like, what? They. They must be professional athletes. Come to find out this is just how crazy the Internet influencer spaces. They have a huge podcast that like, their clips get millions and millions of views. It's called the you should know this podcast. Have y' all heard of it? You should know this. And they're in Dallas. They're based in like Frisco. And they're like two. I could be wrong. I'm sorry if I'm telling the story wrong, but they're two like college dropouts. I'm pretty sure that they were. They went to school to play like basketball at this really small university or college, dropped out and started a podcast. And they basically talk about. I asked them, I was like, what is Yalls podcast about? They're like 26 years old and they're like, literally nothing. Like, we just talk about stupid stuff. Like, they're not like teaching people. Like, they just talk about the most random stuff and it pops up.

[B]

So they, they do it for the clips.

[A]

Probably it's more for the clips, but their downloads are like insane too. They have, I think they have like 3 million followers on tik Tok. Like, and they have this podcast and this is what they do full time now. And. And I was like, who is Yalls demo? Like, what? And they're like, they're like, Danny, like, we'll have like a 4, like a 14 year old boy come up to us and then we'll have like a 40 year old dad come up to us. Like so wild. It's so wide and it's so wild. But this is just what I'm saying. Like people like that. And I was like, dude, they live in Dallas now. I bring them on the podcast. Like, no offense to them, but like no one's gonna know who they are that follow us for sure. Yeah. But that's what's so interesting about the space is like they're so big in their like Internet circles and then like, you know, we understand the mommy community because we have mommies over here. But it's just, it's so fascinating. So I really like your idea. And we could cross promote and I'll grow together. So sweet.

[B]

So sweet. So I just, I think that like the, you know, I was at dinner last night and it's Fascinating. It's similar to actors. Like, we would never know how much goes into, like, preparing for a role.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or just acting. Like, we just see it as, like, all actors. Like, I could do that. I could show up and do that. Yeah. And I think a lot of people feel that way about creators, but I think that if people understood the psychology of most creators, I think that they're. I think they would be fascinated. I also think it would help because I think that it would help a lot of people understand that at the end of the day, yes, it's a story, pseudo depiction of reality, but it also is entertainment. And the reason I say it's. I think it would be important is I was at this dinner, and these two guys were talking about just, like, social media and the way it's created comparison in their lives and the way that it's like, well, I'll scroll through social media and I'll be like, oh, like, I'll watch these creators. And I'm like, man, I should be doing that. Or I should be doing this. Have you heard about this? This creator hubs life. He's in Dallas.

[A]

I thought I saw him last night, and I was freaking out. I love him. I follow all of his stuff. And he lives in Dallas, too. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

So what I really appreciate about him is he. Well, it's so funny.

[A]

He just also just quit his job, and I'm like, no, you need to get back into your thing.

[B]

I know. I was saying the same thing. But, like, you know, if the creator space is creating a lot of, like, envy and, like, grass is greener effect, you know, in a variety of different ways. What was cool about his brand was he was basically normalizing the 9 to 5, which is the 95% majority. Not everyone's entrepreneurs, not everyone's creators. And so what he, I thought was doing really, really well and why he grew so fast was he was helping people feel secure in this being an okay way to live life, too. Right. Whereas, like, creators are just, like, on planes and they're doing this and they're doing that.

[A]

We need to have him on the podcast.

[B]

We should have him. Because I want. I want to know what he's struggling with, because what I think is happening is now he's getting all these opportunities, and he knows his base is, like, appealing to these people who probably just appreciated, like, life looking somewhat routine.

[A]

Well, it's, like, super normal. It's all of the, like, influencer influencers that we know that, like, like, pretended to have other jobs while they were like, mommy blogging.

[B]

Oh, for sure.

[A]

We know so many, like, and I don't think they're doing this anymore, but when we first. First, like five. Five years ago, they're like, they pretend that they're still like.

[B]

Or their spouses were. Their spouses were still firefighters or police officers.

[A]

And they were not.

[B]

They were totally not. They were like, at best working like, one day a week. But most of them, like, weren't working at all. But to protect the relatability of it and to make sure that the audience wasn't convinced that these people changed. It was like. It was like, hey, let's protect the reputation of this.

[A]

No, it.

[B]

So anyway, I think that talking through this stuff now that it's like, out there that influencers make money and it's an art form and all this stuff, like, I think it would be fascinating to pair a mommy blogger of how they create content and how their audience thinks and what they'll get hate about if they do versus, like a.

[A]

We could probably learn a lot from each other.

[B]

Yeah, that's what. To be clear, isn't that what this podcast is supposed to be about?

[A]

Who knows?

[B]

We should just do that more. But we should, definitely.

[A]

I thought I was gonna get on here and de influence beauty products. That's why I got canceled for naming it the Influence.

[B]

No, no, you didn't get canceled it for naming it the Influence.

[A]

I was.

[B]

The haters were mad that we filed the trademark first. And I'm sorry, guys. Like, you would have gotten pissed if we filed it or not. So, like, sorry. We did the right thing.

[A]

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[B]

Oh, no, I, I, I did learn something so interesting this week and I wanted to tell you.

[A]

Oh, okay. I love when you teach me new things.

[B]

Okay, so I learned this. No, I learned this last night. Okay. So I have a friend whose family is in the oil business.

[A]

Okay, that is so Dallas. Like, Sorry, just saying, like the fact that you even just said that.

[B]

But listen, listen, I'm like, my friend's.

[A]

Parents grew wheat in their backyard.

[B]

It's a, it's a third, third generation, it's a third generation oil family. And so oil is kind of like if you're in it or if you've been in it, like you're in it, but it's like hard to kind of grow these days because it's more expensive. You know, there's not a lot of it. Yeah. And, and there's so like all the big companies. It's really hard to be like an independent oil family.

[A]

I knew about the oil lesson. I had no idea.

[B]

So anyway, the Permian Basin. Yeah, it's all in the Permian. That's what I learned. I, to be clear, I didn't know much. I had a lot of questions. The big rich. Oh, I did read that book.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Anyway, we'll talk about that. A different podcast. So anyway, recommendation. So anyway, this, this family is trying to diversify away from oil into.

[A]

Do they want to be influencers?

[B]

No, but I think he generally has an interest in it. But they are trying to diversify into like new sectors, new energy sectors. Okay. And what they are banking on is the next big thing being AI data centers.

[A]

We talked about this.

[B]

No, but it gets more interesting.

[A]

I mean, we just met a guy that builds day. I know AI data centers.

[B]

So what I didn't know is that the biggest challenge to building AI data centers is not finding the land.

[A]

It is the Le Megas. The, the power.

[B]

The power.

[A]

Oh. Because there's a lot of, it's a.

[B]

Lot of plugs, the energy.

[A]

You need a lot of those little, those big things that carry all the data and then you get these big data.

[B]

So it used to be that, it used to be that you needed to be close to what is called a carrier hotel. Do you know what a carrier hotel is?

[A]

Yeah, it's where the WI fi comes out of.

[B]

Yeah. How did you know that?

[A]

Because the gamers use it up in Frisco. Wait, that's why all the gamers move to North Dallas? Because they're closer, they get faster. WI fi?

[B]

You just stole my thunder. How did you know that?

[A]

Babe, I. I literally. I took this class in college. Am I mis. Management of information Systems.

[B]

So you know what a carrier hotel is.

[A]

But I learned all about data centers. I learned about how they store all the. Yeah. And I got to go look inside of one. Just all the plugs everywhere. It's amazing.

[B]

So basically the in.

[A]

It almost looks like you're in.

[B]

In downtown Dallas. In downtown Dallas. So, yeah, you saw my thunder, but it's fine. So in downtown Dallas, the carrier hotel is a big, tall glass building right next to American Airlines Center. And I had always heard that the most like pro gamers that play like Call of Duty and our Twitch streamers all feel like they need to be in downtown Dallas. So if you go to downtown Dallas, all of your favorite Call of Duty players or Twitch streamers, they all have penthouses, high rises in Dallas. And I could never figure out why. And they were like, yeah, the signal is the best. And the reason the signal is the best is because the carrier hotel, which was when they basically laid the Internet cabling and then fiber optics followed it, it all routed back to the carrier hotel, which is that big glass building. So the closer they get to the carrier hotel, the better latence latency that they have.

[A]

So what does latency mean?

[B]

I actually don't know.

[A]

You sounded smart.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. So latency is basically like when the signal sent, like how long it takes to like actually. And when it. When you're gaming bab, you measure that in.

[A]

Use the word latency in a sentence this week.

[B]

So. So listen, for these AI data centers where that were like, modeling these, like large language models, you used to have to be really close to the carrier hotel so that you could have, I guess, high latency.

[A]

But now we have.

[B]

But now they've kind of figured out a way around it. I don't know how. And so now the biggest issue is.

[A]

With what we got at the lake house starlink.

[B]

I don't think that that's how this.

[A]

Coming from the sky.

[B]

But, but so listen. So now the biggest issue is we can't put in any more fibers. No AI data centers in dfw because it'll kill our power grid. So power is now the biggest issue.

[A]

We have a huge gaming problem.

[B]

No, the. The. The issue is there's this huge opportunity to supply power to, like, more remote data centers wherever.

[A]

So are we gonna do it? Well, no, we're gonna save the power.

[B]

No, I just thought it was so interesting about the carrier hotel. But you stole my phone. I'm so proud of you. Though you say you don't remember things, but you remember that from an mis.

[A]

My 10 years ago goes off and on. It's just like I have these days where I remember things and then I have these weeks where I don't. I probably should get. I should probably get like a scan or something. I'm serious. It's not good.

[B]

CAT scan.

[A]

No, really?

[B]

No, for sure.

[A]

I've been thinking about that. I need to do one of those scans where they just scan your whole body.

[B]

You need to go to the things off. You need to go to one of those.

[A]

Those they like where Kim Kardashian gets in. It's like all the sponsored posts where they're like, get us, you know.

[B]

No, no, no. Like, they. If they're called, like, executive physicals or something, and they send you away for three days and they do all these tests on you, you know, but it's like a resort.

[A]

What's that? There's a Cooper Clinic in Dallas. Yeah, Cooper Clinic.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I should do that once a year where they just. Yeah. Anyway, listen now. Do you want to ask any questions?

[B]

Yeah. So. So Danny went to the ACMs. She did not take me. She took her.

[A]

Would you have wanted to go?

[B]

No, I was. I was kind of glad that you went with your friends, to be honest.

[A]

I truly didn't even think you would want to go.

[B]

No, no, I'm not offended at all. I'm really excited that you had a night out with your girl Girls.

[A]

Yeah. I just feel like girl time is so important and, like, an award show on the red carpet just felt so girl time.

[B]

Yeah, no, for sure. And like, honestly, you come back from girl girl time so rejuvenated that I was like, no, this is good.

[A]

No, it was so good. And I'm. And like, Sarah Rose, like, she deserves a night out. Same with my friend Shauna. So it was.

[B]

So was it. Was it worth it? Was it good? Tell me about it.

[A]

It was one of my favorite nights ever.

[B]

Really? The ACM.

[A]

The ACMs might be. This year's ACMs might be one of my favorite things I've ever done as, like, a creator that I've ever been invited to.

[B]

You mean that?

[A]

Yeah, I mean it because it's so fabulous. It's so glamorous. It's so. It's amazing because you have, like, all these people coming together, but everyone's so humble. Like Hollywood, they're so stupid. Like, everybody in Hollywood, like, you know, you saw Dochi at the Met, you know, complaining about the umbrellas, like, yelling at people because she didn't want people to see her. If y' all haven't seen this clip of Dochi, who, you know, I adore, like, you know, and she can totally, like, she's just having her diva moment and it's okay. We've all had those moments. But she's like, so, like, yelling at everybody because she doesn't want them to see her look before she hits the red carpet. So she's like being mean to all of her team. Like, nobody better effing see my outfit. Give me an umbrella. Give me an umbrella here. Give me an umbrella here. Cover me now. And it's like, literally, like, who cares? Like, it's really not that big of a deal. We're not saving lives, okay? Like, doctors aren't even yelling like that. Like, you can calm down. It's. And honestly, like, her look wasn't. She wasn't even wearing heels. She was wearing sneakers. Like, her loafers. Like, you know, so it's just Hollywood. They create all these like, false.

[B]

It's a very self important community.

[A]

No, but it's like so stupid. Like, I literally. I actually even said this last night on the red carpet. I was like, you have to. You have to think God is like looking down, just kind of like giggling. Like, you guys are just so, you know, dare you just taking pictures of yourself. Like, you know, and it's like we all walk in and we're all people and God loves us all the exact same amount, but somebody walked in and we all freak out and we start screaming for them like they're a God. And like, we're like, oh my gosh, it's so and so and so. And God is probably just laughing at us like, oh my gosh. Like, I love you just the same. You're just as amazing as that person. Person, you know? And it's like, you don't need to be freaking out for them. Like, they're just like a human, just like you are.

[B]

I think that that's why I didn't want to go is like, I just don't. I don't feel like I care about celebrity the same way I used to.

[A]

But, like, no, and I agree. Like, I don't either. But it's still fun. Like, I still think it's so great to come together and celebrate people's accomplishments. Like, one of the coolest things was I got to see. I didn't meet her, but, uh, she won. Her name is Jesse Joe Dylan. And she's not nobody Knows who. Like, and I hope if she listens to this, like, I hope she's, like, not offended, but, like, she wasn't, like, you know, Reba McIntyre or Ellie, Ella Langley or Miranda Lambert, like, wasn't one of these major celebrities walking in on the red carpet. Like, people weren't. Unless you were really in the industry. Like, people didn't know she was. She was beautiful. Her outfit was my favorite, actually, out of everyone's. But come to find out, she won songwriter of the year. She writes all the songs that all of the country artists sing, and nobody knew who she was. She's the one who's actually writing them, creating them. And it was so cool to see these people and to celebrate their accomplishments and to. I love stuff like that. But you just have to remember that's why I don't like Hollywood, because they. There's, like, a level where there's this line that you can cross where you start to worship these things, and you actually think they're, like, your identity. Like, if you can come together and, like, have fun and celebrate each other, like, yes. But when you really think that, like, you're going to save the world by your outfit on the red carpet, it's like, literally, like, no. Like, you've. You've gone a little too far, you know? So anyway. But that's why I love the ACLs, because I would say 95% of the people there, they're just salt to the earth people. Super fit. Riley Green met Riley Green, who is, like, kind of like a certified heartthrob. Like, you know, every. All the girls would just die for Riley Green.

[B]

Like, everybody. It's a guy.

[A]

Yeah, he's a guy. He's single. I mean, Ellie is like, that's my one hall pass. Like, the girls. My friend Shawna was single. Like, the girls are just. They go wild for Riley Greene, and, like, they're so nervous to go get a picture with him. I'm like, I'm a mom of three. Like, I'll just go ask him. Like, you know, we go over to him. I'm like, hey, can Mike get a picture with you? And he's like, yeah. He's like, what are yalls names? And he introduces himself. He's like, what do y' all do? And Sarah's is like, we're content creators. He goes, oh, man, that's something I want to learn more about. He goes, the only time I ever post my Instagram is if I kill a deer. Have y' all ever done that? And we're like, no, we haven't ever done that. He. And I'm like, well, can we get our picture now? And he goes, yes, ma' am. And calls us, yes, ma' am. We get our picture. He goes, you'll have a good night now. And I was just like, in Hollywood, this guy would be puffed out of his chest, acting like nobody. He would just walk around with the rest of us, and, like, he's probably, like, the number one heartthrob there that all the girls are fangirling over, you know? And that's just what I like about country music is they just stay more grounded.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not only that. Nicole Kenmit, Keith Urban. Okay? They're. They're so all the celebrities, we are sitting in this, like, front row section on the floor, and then the influencer section, which is kind of like the new press is right behind them. And so we're really close to all the celebrities, and if they walk in or out, if they go to the bathroom, whatever, they walk right next to us. And we're also seated on the outside. So, like, I mean, literally next to us, Keith Urban, Nicole Kidman. I mean, Nicole Kidman is an A list celebrity. She's walking down Keith Urban, and we're all like, oh, my gosh. And she's, like, stopping and, like, giving people hugs and, like. Like, she's walking down, like, hugging every. She's just so delightful to be around. I mean, same with Chris Stapleton. Super sweet. I would. So there was one point where I had to get up and had to go use the potty, and they wouldn't let me into this one party because all the celebrities were in this one party, so they had to take me to another potty. Going to this potty. And as I'm in the potty, I come out of the potty, and Lainey Wilson walks it right next to me and goes into the stall right next to me, and I go. My jaw just. I follow her. And then it's so cool, like, when you're, like, that level famous, you have, like, this personal security guard that walks with you, and it's not for, like, protection, but it's more for, like, efficiency. So I go like this, like, my jaw drop. And I look at Sean, I go. And the security. Lex looks at me, and she goes, oh, for real? Like, do not say anything to her. Like, leave her alone. And I was like. I was like. I was like, cool. I'm cool.

[B]

And then Hannah G. Was that just her security guard?

[A]

Yeah, it was just her person. And she goes, in the stall. And the security guard literally is propped outside the. The stall. And I truly don't think it's like, for security. I think it's just it because she was performing like she performed multiple times and she needs to like, get in, get out. And so it was more for like. Like she used the potty. She didn't even wash her hands. She was out of there. Sorry, lady just called you out. She was.

[B]

That's a fun fact.

[A]

But she couldn't. She couldn't stop and wash her hands because all the girls would have been like, oh my God, can we get a picture? Like, so it's like, it's. I'm sure she had some hand sanitizer for sure. Yeah. But yeah, so she's definitely pee peed next to me. So that was quite a moment. Let's see. Okay. Another funny story. I was. Have you heard that song, Girls Just Wanna have Fun? That song?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I didn't know this, but a guy named Russell Dickerson sings that. And so this was before I got to like, the celebrity potty. I was going to the Porta Potty Potties because I didn't know if I could go to the celebrity party because they kicked me out of there. So I was going to the Porta Potties. Well, the line was too long. So I turn around and I hear this girl in this red dress. And she's like, danny, Danny. I'm like, hello, what's up? And she's like, hey, I'm Kaylee Dickerson. This is my husband, Russell Dickerson. We were really good friends with Landon in college. Really went to Belmont together, and we all used to hang out together. And I was like, really? That's so funny. He goes, she goes, has. She goes, has Landon ever talked about us? I was like, yeah. And then. So then I text Landon. I was like, landon, do you know these people? And at the time, I didn't know that he was who he was.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, do you know these people? And he goes, yeah. Haha. It's so funny that he's a country artist now. He used to be really emo in college. And I was like, country artist. And then Shauna goes, danny, do you know who that is? That's Russell Dickerson. And I was like, I'm sorry. The one thing about country artists that are. It's like everybody's like Chris Howard, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Michael Henderson, like, Russell Dickerson. Like, you guys all sound the same. Sam Hunt, Riley Green. Like, it's so country and it's like in Hollywood, everybody goes by these fake names like Lady Gaga. And it's a little bit easier to remember when your name is just Rihanna.

[B]

Like, for sure.

[A]

But anyway, yeah, so they were super sweet. So down to earth. And it was so funny because he said hi and then like they go back and I like look up on the screen. He's like, on stage, like on the screen.

[B]

That's so funny.

[A]

But that's how down to earth and like, cool, cool these people are. They're just walking around like normal, like normies, you know.

[B]

Who. Who did you fan girl over the most?

[A]

I didn't really fangirl over anyone because everybody's so nice.

[B]

I know, but like, who was Nicole.

[A]

Came in like, yeah, probably that.

[B]

That would make sense.

[A]

Oh, Backstreet Boys for sure.

[B]

Were they close to you though, or just on stage?

[A]

But like, I almost, you know, Backstreet Boys is the only concert I've ever cried out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you know, I've seen them like four times. And so like I was gonna leave early, but then I heard that they were doing the finale with Rascal Fats and I was like, you know, I won't be missing that. So I stayed. And then I did shed one single tear. Left eye. When they started doing a dance at the same time. Because there's Nothing like watching 40 year old dads doing hip hop on stage. It is just with the confetti falling down. Others, there's nothing that gets me going more like it was just a beautiful thing. And I'm like, these men still got it.

[B]

Who had the best performance?

[A]

Oh, I would have freaked out over Kelsey Ballerini. I love her. And Ella Langley, she's so cute. She. She dated Riley Greene for a little bit. Oh, let me tell you. Who won all the awards.

[B]

No, I know, but like you were there. Who had the best performance?

[A]

It was really hard to see, see, because they had all these different stages. And so it's also interesting that they.

[B]

Treat you guys as press now. That's so smart.

[A]

Yeah, because like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Reading Cosmo.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

The. The press. Even a lot of the people running press. Like, okay, so when we went, when we got there, we first did the red carpet, which, you know, red carpets are. This was the biggest red carpet I've ever done. Like, and the red carpet, it was so crazy because they had like all of the probably like C listers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. I would consider myself like an like an L lister, you know, like, I'm down in the.

[B]

Stop it.

[A]

No, it's okay. I'm not, like. It's okay. Secure who I am. I'm a great mother and a great wife. It's okay. And a great podcaster. And so, you know, they invite all of us. And so when we're in there, it's more like influencers. It's like not. You know, we're not getting the Backstreet Boys or anything, and. Because all the Backstreet Boys, slash, the Miranda, the Blake Sheltons, like, Leanne Rhymes, they all get to the red carpet, like, 20 minutes before the show starts because they just want to get in and out. So I didn't see any, like, huge celebrities, but it was really special. Like, when we walked in, you know, they have all of the. They have all these cameras set up, and each one says, like, what publication they're a part of.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And there was Joanna. Know, like, my humbling moment.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, because we all have them. But so they. I walk in, and there's also, like, a bunch of, like. I wouldn't. I'm just going to say fans, because what I. It's kind of like in a. In a typical, like, red carpet scene, all the fans are behind the red rope. So you walk in, and it was really sweet because there were. Some of the people in the stands were like, oh, my gosh, Danny. And I was like, oh, they're still so, like, home. Like, I got to meet some of them. And then I get on the red carpet, and there's, like, four different stops that you just stop at. And I'm, like, taking pictures. It's like USA Today and, like, US Weekly. And I'm like, okay, I'm hot. I'm hot. I'm working the red carpet. I'm like, can you see my bra? Can you see my boobs? Like, so then I get to the fourth one. No, nobody takes a picture. And I'm posing.

[B]

Oh, no, I know.

[A]

And I was like, can't you just pretend?

[B]

Wait, why weren't they taking pictures?

[A]

They just didn't want one of me.

[B]

Oh, that's. That's hard.

[A]

But the third. The first three were great, you know, And I was like, oh, I'm like, oh, that.

[B]

That reminds me of the All Star.

[A]

Game when that was cringy.

[B]

I was way up in the stands, and I was watching Danny, and she was so clearly trying to, like, warm up with a teammate, and nobody wanted.

[A]

To throw the ball.

[B]

No one wanted to throw the ball with you.

[A]

You know, just.

[B]

I was so. I was mad up there for you.

[A]

No, you know what?

[B]

But that was humbling.

[A]

God keeps me humble. Yeah, he really does. And I appreciate that. I go home and I cry, and I cry. No, no. And so I had that moment on the record. I was like. And then, like, nobody was taking a picture, but I just pretended because I was like, I'm not going to, like, embarrass myself even more. So I was like.

[B]

Oh, man, that's so hard.

[A]

I know. But you know what, babe? It's all. You know, it's all just silly.

[B]

Yeah, it's silly.

[A]

It's silly. It's silly. And I was like, you know what?

[B]

But you got a couple Gettys. Getty Images.

[A]

Yeah, I got a couple of those Gettys. And so. And then, you know, we walk around and it's like one of those things where it's like, they stop and they. You. They want to interview on. Interview you on the red carpet. But it's like, do they want to interview you? So you, like. They, like, come in. It's so awkward. Red carpets are so awkward.

[B]

So did they want to interview you?

[A]

There were a couple. But, like, did they.

[B]

Or did they feel bad for me?

[A]

You know? I don't know. It's so confused.

[B]

Well, what were the nature of their questions?

[A]

Like, who are you? What do you do? No kidding.

[B]

They know.

[A]

No, I would say there is probably 25, like, publications that you could get interviewed for. And I did four of them.

[B]

So, yeah, there you go.

[A]

Boot Barn wanted to interview me, so I was like, I've made it in life. And I did do, like, an. I think I did US Weekly, USA Today.

[B]

Were there any influencers that everyone was, like, flocking to?

[A]

Not really. Wait, let me think. No. Yeah, but here, what was cool is.

[B]

Like, the influencer class was kind of all equal.

[A]

We're all kind of nobodies.

[B]

Yeah. But. Well, you probably have, like, the traditional. You have the country music artists, and then you've got the press that wants to interview the country music artist.

[A]

And then you have all these influencers coming in, and then you have, like, Influencers.

[B]

Yeah, no, for sure. And the. The. Because the press is like, y' all stole our seats. So, like, y' all are kind of just like. It's just.

[A]

But here's what. What happened. It would be like, the lady from USA Today was also a mom, so. So she followed me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she followed the Molly bloggers, you know? But, like, then you would get. That's the thing. It was, like, more, like, appealing to the interviewer than the actual publication, because the publication doesn't need influencer interviews, you know, they need the celebrities. So it's like I only got an interview if they just happened to follow me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so it happened like that. And then. But there was a girl, Rachel. I don't know if it's Scoggins or Scoggins, but she. You know Rachel. We've done, like, PR events with her, and she was so sweet, and she got, like, blonde. She helped me do, like. Yeah, kind of like a brownish blonde. She helped me get, like, a couple of interviews, which was really nice. And honestly, it was good for my vlog, you know? Yeah, no, it's like, I'm not. Whatever. So I saw Josh Abbott back there. That was cool. I saw Ella Langley back there. That was cool.

[B]

Was. Who's my guy these days, Kids? Kenny Chesney? Was he there?

[A]

No, I didn't see him.

[B]

Tim McGraw?

[A]

No.

[B]

George Straight.

[A]

Alan Jackson was there.

[B]

The OG's pieced out.

[A]

No.

[B]

Wait, is Alan Jackson my guy?

[A]

I think you love Alan.

[B]

He's my new guy. You're right.

[A]

And it was.

[B]

So did he do Drive? That's my new.

[A]

You love that favorite babe. I almost cried when he performed. He was just.

[B]

Wait, what did he perform?

[A]

I don't remember, but it was like, Chattanoogie. Remember? I did get a video of it. Here, let me pull it up.

[B]

That's another. Dude, Chattanoogi's a banger, too. It's like, where was I at?

[A]

No, Dan and Shea performed.

[B]

Listen, I don't know why it's ranked 8. Drive Jelly Roll is his best song. Wait, what did he perform? Danny? Alan Jackson, my guy.

[A]

Oh, Shabuzzi performed, which I couldn't believe. He. He didn't win Song of the Year for that tipsy song. I feel like that was, like, the song of the year.

[B]

That bar. That bar, tipsy songs.

[A]

No, like, it's. It's. Lionel Richie was there. I was like, nicole.

[B]

It's random.

[A]

Yeah. Lionel Richie.

[B]

No. You want Sophia.

[A]

Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Nicole. I was. That was so 90s of me comparison. Nicole.

[B]

Nicole is also his daughter, Right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So wait. So sorry. Sophia and Nicole are sisters?

[A]

Uhhuh. Riley Green did a little presentation. Let me find. Did I not film Alan Jackson? That would have just been.

[B]

I don't even know who this Riley Green guy is, to be honest.

[A]

It's. I think people like him more for. Well, he. He won Song of the Year with. Or Single of the Year with Ella Langley. Excuse me. You look like you.

[B]

Is that Alan Jackson? That song, dude. Yeah, that's. That's an emotional song too.

[A]

Oh, oh. We were swaying. Come on. We're win that song, Remember?

[B]

Oh, man. Is that him? Yeah, he's older. Man.

[A]

I came to Nashville with the crazy sack of songs. He goes. He gets on stage, he goes. You know, about two years ago, I met a girl who named her dog after me, and I thought that was an owner, but now I'm standing here tonight, and I think this trumps it.

[B]

I was like, that's so good.

[A]

Yeah. So that was great. Let me tell you about some of the people that won.

[B]

Look, Shauna's got her red carpet photos.

[A]

Oh, good. That girl. We need to set her up. I tried to set. Okay. Did I tell you I was like an amazing wing woman last night? I went up to a man and asked if he was single. For her. For her. No, literally. I walk up to him, I go, he. He was the one that, when we couldn't get into the celebrity bathroom, he worked for the ACMs. And he helped us get into the different celebrity bathroom where I ran into Lainey Wilson. But he was really tall and really cute. And I was like, I just want Shawna to meet, like, a good man, you know, honestly, for selfish reasons, because we're hanging out with him too.

[B]

Yeah, true.

[A]

So I was like, he leads us to the bathroom. I go, ugh, we love you so much. Thank you so much. Are you single? And he goes, no, ma' am. I'm take. Because, you know, they're all just, no, ma' am, I'm taking. I go, oh, no, no, not for me. For her. He's like, no, ma' am, I'm still taken. I was like, oh, okay. Thanks. And then Shauna was like, danny, I know. That took a lot of balls. Like, thank you for doing that. I know. I'm trying. I'm trying.

[B]

Good friend. Such a good friend.

[A]

So this was interesting. Okay, so let's see. Entertainer of the year. Who do you think won't? Yeah, I'll just tell you.

[B]

Well, hold on.

[A]

It's kind of like the big one.

[B]

Shaboozi.

[A]

No. Lainey Wilson. And I think she won that last year too.

[B]

I don't really know any Lainey Wilson songs.

[A]

You know Watermelon Moonshine?

[B]

No.

[A]

Watermelon Moonshine.

[B]

No, I. I need to, like, you know this song. I'm. I'm very. Listen, I just discovered Kenny Chestnut. Like, I'm very new to this country scene. I feel like I'm starting with, like, the OGs, and then working my way up. Oh, I know the song.

[A]

Oh, so good. Makes you feel something.

[B]

It's so cool to have a talent like that.

[A]

It gives me the chance. Chills.

[B]

It's so cool.

[A]

It's so cool. And, like, you're just. You're there and you're seeing all these amazing. And that's another thing about Hollywood. Nobody can sing. Sorry, not nobody, but, like, a lot of people can't sing. They get up on and they have these, like, really flashy performances. You get. You get Leanne Ryan, you get Reba McIntyre, you get Miranda Lambert. They're all up there doing these collaborations. Dolly wasn't there, and they're sitting. They're talented and they're singing about, like, good things.

[B]

Totally. And I just love just America.

[A]

Just America. That was one of my questions was like, I was like, hit the red carpet and, like, I'm like, expecting to be like, what are you wearing tonight? Who are you excited to see? And they're like, what do you most like about being an American? I was like, oh, you're like, let.

[B]

Me tell you about the Iran Contra issue.

[A]

I'm not gonna lie.

[B]

Because let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. The CIA has been up to some weird ace shit, and I am just. I'm fed up with it.

[A]

No, I literally. It crossed my mind. But no, I had a legit answer. So feel. Thank goodness I could act quick on my feet.

[B]

What did you say?

[A]

I said, I love living in a place where everybody loves being an American. And not only that, but, like. Like, we're so proud to be not just Americans, but Texans.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

I was like, we go to Europe. We're not from America. We're from Texas.

[B]

That's so good branding.

[A]

And so anyway, that was interesting. Okay, so female artist of the year was Lainey Wilson as well. Male artist of the year, Chris Stapleton. He's also vibe. He gets up there and just feel so good. New film or new female artist of the year was Ella Langley. She's having a huge moment. You know the song that she sings, that song that. Excuse me.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You look like you love me.

[B]

It's like basically any song that blows up on Tick Tock Feels.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In the new artist of the year was Zach. Top album of the year was Whirlwind by Lainey Wilson. I don't know what single of the year and song versus the year. I don't know what the differences are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Single of the year was you look like you love me by Ella Langley and Riley Green. Apparently they were dating, which is like country, but they're not anymore. Song of the year was Dirt Cheap by Cody Johnson. He's also having, like a huge moment. The only thing I just don't understand is how Shaboozy didn't win song of the year with Tipsy. Like, I just feel like that was the song of the year for sure. And Morgan Wallen didn't win anything. And I'm convinced it's because he just doesn't go.

[B]

Yeah, no, for sure. Because he would have to win something.

[A]

Yeah, I think he won something last year.

[B]

Did Post Malone win or two years.

[A]

Ago, Post Malone was, like, nominated for some stuff.

[B]

Wait, did Beyonce win anything for her country?

[A]

Can you imagine? No, she wasn't nominated for anything.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

I wondered, like, if country artists, I think, accept her. Like, we're like, we love that you are.

[B]

No, I feel like that's like a whole thing that they don't. But yeah, I think Morgan Wallen and Beyonce didn't win something because they weren't there year for sure. Is this a big deal? Is this bigger than the CMT Awards?

[A]

No, I wouldn't think so.

[B]

This is lower level.

[A]

This is the sixth year. It's been around for six years. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Wait, was it six years or six decades?

[B]

No, six.

[A]

No, I think it was the 60th.

[B]

So it was started in the.

[A]

Wait, guys, can somebody look that up? Wait, I think it was the 60th year. The six. It was six decades of the ACMs. Yeah, look, I took a picture. 60.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So it was six decades of the ACM. Yeah. So I don't know what I would say. The CMTs, like, I feel like Post Malone, Morgan Wallach, they all would show up to the CMTs. Right? Am I wrong?

[B]

Or the Grammys, maybe.

[A]

Oh, the Grammys, the Gram Grams. The Grammys are like, with Hollywood, like, and we just like, I don't trust those people.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Like, I just don't. Something's off with them.

[B]

Well, I'm so glad that you had fun.

[A]

Yeah. Not done.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I'm gonna let you keep sharing.

[A]

You gotta pee?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Okay, okay. So this show opened with.

[B]

Okay, it's real, it's relatable, it's our style.

[A]

She got. He got pee pee. The show opened up with, I will say, the first 12 minutes of the show. It was really special. There was this medley of all of these artists of songs of the year from the six decades. The show has been in existence. It had Reba McIntyre, Clint Black, Dan and Shea, Leanne Rimes, Sugarland, Winona Judd. There was also a huge performance by Reba McIntyre, Lainey Wilson and Miranda Lambert. They debuted this new single called Trailblazer. It was okay. The song was okay. The performance was amazing. Other people that performed were Alan Jackson, Lakeshore, Blake Shelton, Brooks and Dunn, Ella Langley, Eric Church, Jelly Roll. Who? Jelly Roll was, like, literally preaching the gospel, like, the entire time. And then at the end, he stopped and, like, still was preaching the gospel. And they cut him off. I was like, oh, well. We wanted to hear what he wanted to say. Kelsey Ballerini, she's amazing. Chase Stokes was there too, which was, like, so fun. Rascal Flats, Shaboozy Zach, Top. And then, not to be, like, offensive, but my highlight of the night was the Backstreet Boys, because I know they're not country, so I don't want to be offensive. And everybody was like, why are they here? And I was like, why are you not accepting the Backstreet Boys here? Like, just let it happen. Stop questioning. Don't ask questions. Just let it go. But they did a collab with Rascal Flats, which was like, that's cool. It was so cool. It was just one heck of a night. And then we went to the after party because, you know, when you're so stimulated like that from all the music and all the celebrities walking around, you just can't just calm down. You can't just go home, you know? So we. We snuck our way into the after party.

[B]

Who was. Was there anyone famous there?

[A]

No. Yeah, I feel like there was, like, probably an after party for, like. Like a. The real after party. But this was like the after party they, like, sold tickets for.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If you ever have to buy tickets to an after party, it's not the real after party. Let me just tell you.

[B]

That is the truth. It's just not Life hack.

[A]

Life hack. They're not. Nobody's gonna be there. Apparently, there was an after party for the after party, but I got home at 1:30, so I don't know. I don't know what that was like. I can't tell you. But let me see. Okay, hold on. Let me see. What else happened? Oh, I did see on the red carpet, you know who interviewed me? Actually, she didn't interview me, but I met Jesse James Decker in person for the first time. I've texted her so many times.

[B]

Oh, no way.

[A]

But she was there. She was working the red carpet. And then Katie Austin was there. Working the red carpet as well. And she stopped me and was like, can we do an interview and clear the air that we're not related?

[B]

Oh, that's funny.

[A]

I was like, but are we Kind.

[B]

Of looks like we could be similar.

[A]

I don't know if we look that similar, but we definitely don't have the same bodies. She's got, like, an eight pack.

[B]

So do you. That's what I see when I look at you.

[A]

Just love you. Sweet, man.

[B]

Was Jesse James necker nice?

[A]

No, she was. I'm just kidding. She, like, actually was so nice.

[B]

That's funny.

[A]

No, she was so sweet. So beautiful. She looks stunning. Last night and I saw her makeup artist, who I follow on Instagram. She's kind of like this famous makeup artist. And, like, I kind of fan girled over here a little bit.

[B]

Have you ever worked with her?

[A]

No. She does like famous people. And, like, I follow her because she does, like, really, really famous people.

[B]

Oh, shoot.

[A]

And I kind of forgot her name, but she was there and I. I maybe fangirled over her the most.

[B]

Let me tell you something. You looked amazing. I'm so glad you had a great time. You were a great friend. Such a good friend. I am ready to end this podcast.

[A]

Why?

[B]

I'm just tired.

[A]

You don't want to talk to me anymore?

[B]

No, I love talking to you. I, I.

[A]

You want to go to the lake?

[B]

Yeah, I want to go to the lake.

[A]

Okay. We are going to be packing up after this and heading to the lake house. And I do want to say you've done a phenomenal job at trying. Like, Like, I. Nobody tries harder than this man. Okay? Like, he makes an effort, and I.

[B]

Know I never get an A.

[A]

Forever being made cannot be me. And here's the thing. He is always so close. So close. So he's gotten. He. Y' all know that Jordan gets really obsessed with things. Like, he. He's extremely obsessed with the bathroom experience at our lake house. I don't know why, but it is like, he will be like, what makes this is him on ChatGPT. What makes the best bathroom experience? You know that you've done this. You know that you Google this, okay? And then he'll read these forums that are like. So one time, I went to this guy's house, and he had heated floors, and then he had monogrammed napkins that you just threw away after you washed your hands. And then the water didn't ever turn cold. It was always warm. And so Jordan gets all these ideas. That's how we found out about cozy earth sheets. Like, literally not sponsored. Like, he looked at Reddit forums, so he's super obsessed with that. He also, at our lake house, is obsessed with the breakfast experience. Okay? So he's, like, so obsessed where he. He has this waffle maker we've talked about a million times. He's been trying so hard to figure out exactly how to make, like, the perfect breakfast for a lot of guests when we stay at the lake house. Okay? So the first time we got the waffle maker, we wake up, there's, like, six people saying, he, y' all. He literally made 42, like, waffles. Like, I don't know, but it's because he looks on Chashiweeti and he follows this recipe, but he doesn't, like portion control it. So he literally made 62 waffles. So. And no offense that the waffles were, like, really bouncy, dry. Like, I don't know. Like, if you would have thrown them, they were kind of, like, a little foamy. Like, they would have bounced. But it's okay. The effort was, like, made, and it's so sweet, and I, like, loved it. So then my aunt comes and stays with us, and he's like, I want to make breakfast. And I'm like, great. Eggs, bacon, and pancakes. I told him. I was like, let's not do the waffles because they're getting a little foamy. I was like, let's just do pancakes, y' all. The pancake mix directions are on the back of the box. Okay? Pancakes and eggs and bacon are probably three of the easiest things you can make besides cereal. And so Jordan, I go, like, I wake up, and I go out, and he's making breakfast. I'm like, this is so sweet. And he's like, he's already made the pancake making mixing experience so complicated. He's put everything into a massive ass blender. Okay, so the pancake mist is in a blender. When I'm like, why is this in a blender? Like, you literally just have to put water and egg and maybe some oil in the mix in a bowl and stir it, you know? And so. But I'm like, you know what? Jordan just always likes to do things this way. So I'm like, oh, it's so sweet. So he's like, can you teach me how to use the griddle and, like, how to make pancakes? I'm like, yes. So first you want to put butter down, not olive oil, because the butter just makes a pancake taste so good, you know? So we Put butter down. And I'm like, put it on medium. Wait for it to heat up, and I start pouring out the pancake. And I'm going to teach him. You know, when you lay a pancake down, you have to wait for the bubbles to sprout. And when the bubbles pour, pop. You know, it's probably cooked on one side. That's when you flip it. I don't know if you knew that.

[B]

But you told me that, okay?

[A]

You told me that. Life lesson. So we started pouring them, and I'm like, man, something in this kitchen smells so garlicky. I'm like, it smells so salty. Garlicky. Like, really? You know when you, like, cut garlic and it's just. It's so strong. And I'm flipping the pancakes, and I'm, like, smelling. I'm like, maybe we left something out last night. And I'm flipping the pancakes, and I'm like, okay, like. And I'm showing them how to make them. So we probably make six or seven pancakes. And the smell is just getting stronger and stronger. And then my aunt comes out, and I'm like, guys, y' all smell that? I'm like, it smells disgusting. Like, it's getting stronger. I go, these pancakes smell like garlic. And Jordan's like. And I'm like, babe, did you put in the pancake mix? And he's like, nothing. I just put oil and pancake and. And I go, but, babe, look at the box. This one didn't require oil. Why'd you put.

[B]

No, it did.

[A]

He goes, oh, okay, stop.

[B]

It did.

[A]

Okay. So he goes to. He goes to the kitchen. He goes, well, I thought I would use this oil. And he pulls out our truffle oil. Truffle oil. It's like a garlic truffle oil.

[B]

No, no, trough is the brand. And I.

[A]

No, it's a truffle oil, babe.

[B]

Yeah. No. Can I. Can I tell you what went through my mind, though?

[A]

No, we all know you just thought it was, like, a sweet oil.

[B]

Yeah, because it's truffle.

[A]

Truffle. You know what truffle is?

[B]

I thought it was, like, a luxury olive oil because it says truffle olive oil.

[A]

Do you know what truffle even is?

[B]

Yeah, it's like what the dogs sniff for.

[A]

What kind of plant is it?

[B]

Isn't it a. Isn't it. Is it a fungus?

[A]

It's a mushroom. Yes.

[B]

Yeah. Mushroom, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you're putting mushrooms into our pancakes so that. You hear that.

[B]

Listen, here's what I didn't know is truff makes hot sauce and all these. I thought truff was the brand. I didn't know that that was like a truffle oil. Like, yeah, no, I know that now.

[A]

You put it on, like, a pizza.

[B]

I think it was a pretty mistake if you're. If I'm being honest.

[A]

So then we were, like, still cooking it, and he just leaves. Like, he just goes, bye, bye. And like a week later, I come home and I'm just, like, sitting in bed. And, you know, like, you start laughing because you just remember. I'm like, remember that time you put truffle in our pancakes? Like, it was so disgusting because we had to throw the whole batch away. And he goes, yeah, I didn't tell you about this, but I put it all in the eggs too. And I just ran out of there. He goes, I didn't want to see yalls reactions. I just ran out. The exit wasn't so bad.

[B]

I literally left for 30 minutes because I was like, I'm about to get demolished because I just made 24 eggs with white truffle olive oil.

[A]

That's the other thing is because you.

[B]

Go, jordan, did you put it in the eggs? And I go, no, absolutely not. And then I just left. I was like, I can't take it. I was so ashamed of my decision to put it in the pancakes because the sentiment was so there. And I feel like I wasn't getting any A's for efforts.

[A]

I know I've told this story before, but just before we move on, I just want to tell this one last story.

[B]

No, stop.

[A]

The egg one with the.

[B]

No more, babe. No more. No, it's.

[A]

It's just how your brain works. Can I just tell him?

[B]

Okay, fine.

[A]

When I first started dating Jordan, he invited me over to make breakfast for me, and I was like, oh, my gosh, this man cooks too. He made me an egg scramble, and I was like, God, this is such a sweet man. He serves me.

[B]

That's who I want to be. That's what I'm trying to just wait.

[A]

He serves me eggs mixed with little pieces of carrots, almonds, raisins, and blue cheese all mixed together in an egg scramble. Come to find out, it wasn't just almonds and raisins. It was one of those trail mixes that he just pulled out. The almonds and the raisins. Mix it all together in the eggs. Serve it to me. The blue cheese made the eggs green, so I'm eating eight. Like, he just thought, like, she's embellishing.

[B]

She's Embellishing. No, I'm not, babe, you're embellishing. You're embellishing.

[A]

Literally. You made me a scramble with carrots, raisins, and almonds.

[B]

You're slightly embellishing.

[A]

And blue cheese. It was the most disgusting thing. But at first I was like, oh, my God, is he kind of like a culinary genius? Like, I was like, these flavors together. And then I just realized he used everything in his kitchen. Kitchen that wasn't expired.

[B]

You know, it's so funny. Is in my mind, I literally was like ratatouille. I literally was like ratatouille. Like, I was like, oh. Like, it's like Italian music playing in the background. I was like, she's gonna be so impressed. You're gonna be like, whoa. So innovative.

[A]

I kind of thought that at first because I didn't know him. Like, he was so smart. And I was like, oh, this guy is, like, kind of a culinary genius. And then I just realized. No, he just pulled out everything. Single thing he had. He had carrots from hummus, and he had trail mix. And then you had some blue cheese, like, randomly. And it was so gross. It tasted so bad. I'm like, wow. It's okay. Anyway, well, I still love you, babe.

[B]

Well, we're going right now. I got Saturday morning, I got Sunday morning to figure this out.

[A]

You just love to over complicate things.

[B]

No, Whoa.

[A]

It didn't really have to be that. It's so simple.

[B]

Yeah, maybe so.

[A]

You know, you just. Honestly. Here's another thing, too. You don't need to make 24 eggs when there's only four people there. I've been meaning to tell you that one. Well, the way I do it is like two eggs per person.

[B]

I know. I. Yes.

[A]

So there's like six people.

[B]

I ordered less eggs this time.

[A]

Few. We're wasting a lot of eggs.

[B]

Okay, well. But, like, is there a still a chance that I can redeem myself? Because I've got Saturday and Sunday.

[A]

I guess we'll have to find out. Here's the next week on the influence.

[B]

Here's the big thing. Is that Sunday's Mother's Day. It's a big breakfast.

[A]

Okay, well, we love you guys. Hey, can you just do me a favor? Can you just go follow us on Instagram and tick tock? I mean, like, yeah, for sure. Seriously, for sure. What are you gonna lose?

[B]

What are you gonna lose?

[A]

All you're gonna do is just gain so many laughs.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

And so many reminders to come listen to our podcast. And knowledge. And knowledge. About the Iran Contra conflict.

[B]

Totally.

[A]

Okay. We love you guys. Bye. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.