Deadline: White House – “Revisiting Greenland”
Date: January 15, 2026
Host: Nicolle Wallace
Guests: Heather Cox Richardson, Mark Elias, Tom Nichols, Cornell Belcher, Josh Gerstein
Main Theme & Purpose
This episode examines the Trump administration’s moves toward authoritarianism both domestically and abroad, with an urgent focus on recent military actions, threats to democratic norms, and attempts to subvert the electoral process. The panel discusses increasing public mobilization, the controversial push for military intervention in Greenland, efforts to manipulate the midterm elections, and attacks on the free press—including the FBI raid of a journalist’s home.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Trump’s Authoritarian Playbook and Foreign Policy Gambits
[01:04] Heather Cox Richardson: Outlines how Trump’s approach has shifted from promoting democracy to demanding obedience, likening it to Putin-style personalized power.
- Richardson: “The way to get along with the United States is to give expletive to the president... That is a personalized power that looks very much like Vladimir Putin.” (01:04)
[01:46] Nicolle Wallace: Frames Trump’s pattern as about "dominance and control," rattling off threats to countries like Venezuela, Cuba, Mexico, and notably, Greenland.
- Wallace: "It is not an adherence to democracy. It is not prosperity for all citizens. It is certainly not the rule of law. No, for Donald Trump... it has always been about dominance and control..." (01:46)
[09:17] Tom Nichols: Dissects Trump’s tendency to open “military fronts” as a distraction from domestic problems and as a standard authoritarian tactic, suggesting the public’s apathy toward foreign policy is both a tool and a hurdle for Trump.
- Nichols: “Americans think of foreign policy like the plumbing. They just assume it’s back there and it works, and they don’t think about it until they’re up to their hips in water.” (09:17)
[11:02] Wallace: Notes the unpopularity of Trump’s military adventures, especially the Greenland intervention—opposed even by most MAGA-aligned voters (only 4% support, 11:02).
2. Erosion of Democratic Norms and Threats to Voting
[04:48] Mark Elias: Details the sequential escalation of Trump’s attempts to undermine the election process—from trying to overturn 2020, to midterm manipulation:
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Elias: “He has tried to pass executive orders limiting the ways in which states can allow voting... he’s got his Department of Justice suing 24 states... he said that he believes the states act as his agents for the counting and tabulating of votes.” (04:48)
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On the climate: “This is directionally all going in the same place... We are going to have elections because Donald Trump can’t cancel them. But it’s not because he doesn’t want to, it’s because he can’t.” (04:48)
[07:05] Elias: Calls for civic and legal action, noting a surprising lack of engagement from major law firms:
“Why aren’t the big law firms involved in Minneapolis?... My 60-person law firm, we're up against DOJ in all of them... The business community needs to be engaged... we cannot let this happen in darkness.” (07:05)
3. Public Mobilization and Shifting Political Energy
[11:44] Cornell Belcher: Points to a groundswell of civic engagement in response to Trump’s actions:
- “...people who say, you know, they’d never protest or they've never been out before... the country seems to be mobilizing in the face of this threat... I’m hopeful about that.” (11:44)
Belcher highlights historic Democratic gains in special elections and shifts in public opinion (Cook Report moving 18 seats towards Democrats, 11:44).
- Belcher: “There is this sense that things are changing... The moment that middle white Americans think they have skin in this game, it becomes really problematic.” (13:54)
4. Media’s Role, Fascism, and the Greenland Debacle
[14:56] Wallace: Connects public awakening to warnings from former officials like Gen. John Kelly, who labeled Trump’s actions as fitting the definition of fascism. Wallace and Nichols analyze how Trump's overt fascist rhetoric (e.g., wanting to “own” Greenland) is breaking through as people directly witness its effects.
- Nichols: "Donald Trump is saying really terrifyingly fascist things about taking over other countries and owning them... I’m becoming uncharacteristically optimistic that a lot of this is starting to break through." (17:03)
5. Intra-Party Dynamics and the 2026 Midterms
[22:23] Elias: Cautions against overestimating Trump’s weakening, highlighting Republican institutional loyalty and ongoing efforts to manipulate maps and voter data.
- “His party’s not really breaking with him. You do not see even Republicans from Minnesota saying that what he is doing is wrong... He’s musing that perhaps we should be seizing ballot boxes.” (22:23)
[24:53] Belcher: Expresses skepticism about Democratic elite readiness, but notes grassroots pressure: “Whether or not those on the Hill hear that, the people are clearly demanding something different.” (24:53)
[27:45] Nichols: Explains Republicans’ primary incentive: avoiding a Trump-led primary challenge supersedes concern for public approval.
- “They're doing it because they know that all they have to do is survive their primary... The window has gotten narrower for Trump.” (27:45)
6. Major Legal Battles Over Redistricting and Voter Rights
[30:48] Wallace and Elias: Explore breaking news: California’s new congressional maps withstand a federal challenge from Republicans, another blow for the Trump administration’s efforts to engineer the midterms.
- Elias: “The Trump administration has turned their Department of Justice into basically a personal law firm for Donald Trump... There’s no bigger way to rig the rules than through redistricting.” (31:43)
- Elias lists major battlegrounds: Texas, Missouri, North Carolina (Republican redraws), and pushes for gerrymandering in Florida, versus Democratic efforts in California and Virginia. (33:31)
- He warns of the Supreme Court's pending Louisiana case (brought by white voters claiming voter discrimination) which threatens the Voting Rights Act. (35:00)
7. Press Freedom and the FBI Raid on a Washington Post Reporter
[36:27] Wallace: Covers the unusual and chilling FBI raid on a journalist’s home, raising alarms about government intimidation of the press.
[38:11] Josh Gerstein (Politico):
- “Going into a reporter’s home ... is a very, very unusual step, and there are real questions about it. Under federal law ... investigators... need to subpoena it, instead of just bursting in...” (38:11)
- The investigation is an offshoot of a probe into a government contractor, but Gerstein stresses that targeting reporters in this way was once unthinkable and was likely approved at the highest levels. (39:15–42:23)
[39:59] Wallace: Notes Trump’s branding of the press as “enemy of the people,” and owner Jeff Bezos’s silence in defending the Washington Post. She contextualizes the raid as part of broader efforts to undermine press freedom. (39:59)
8. Satire and Symbolism: The Nobel Peace Prize Medal
[43:36] Wallace: Reports Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corinna Machado ceremonially gifting Trump her Nobel Peace Prize medal in an effort to placate him—a gesture the Nobel committee instantly disavowed.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Tom Nichols: “The number of people who really support a military takeover of Greenland probably fit in this room with me.” (09:17)
- Cornell Belcher: “The country seems to be mobilizing in the face of this threat, as I had hoped that Americans would be Americans and say, well, no, we're not going to stand for this.” (11:44)
- Heather Cox Richardson: “He is spending money like a drunken sailor... Instead of spending it on our healthcare, using it for crap like that.” (20:58)
- Mark Elias: “We continue to see the Trump administration flailing about, Republicans flailing about in the courts. And that’s why I keep raising the prospects of these extrajudicial efforts that he may once again engage in.” (33:20)
- Josh Gerstein: "The rhetoric that President Trump has used towards reporters, it's not just generally, it's specifically in this context of protecting confidential sources... he suggested if we were thrown in jail... that would be a good way to identify our sources." (40:37)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- [01:04] — Heather Cox Richardson on Trump’s Putin-esque approach
- [04:48] — Mark Elias on escalating threats to voting systems
- [09:17] — Tom Nichols on the “plumbing” of foreign policy and Greenland
- [11:44] — Cornell Belcher on public mobilization and shifts in elections
- [14:56] — Wallace and Nichols: Defining Trump’s fascist rhetoric
- [22:23] — Elias: Republican loyalty and legal subversion of elections
- [27:45] — Nichols: GOP primary motivations and public opinion limits
- [31:43] — Elias: California redistricting victory and ongoing legal battles
- [36:27] — Wallace: FBI raid on a journalist’s home
- [38:11] — Gerstein: Legal context and unprecedented nature of the raid
- [43:36] — Wallace: Satirical Nobel Peace Prize episode
Conclusion
The episode offers a bracing analysis of the Trump presidency’s latest maneuvers—military adventurism, domestic crackdowns, voter suppression schemes, and attacks on the free press—while wrestling with the tension between public pessimism and the visible rise in civic mobilization. The panel emphasizes the urgent need for vigilance and active resistance, pointing to cracks in Trump’s support but underlining ongoing institutional complicity. The Greenland saga becomes a symbol for how authoritarian posturing, once the stuff of hyperbole, is now an open and urgent crisis—one that, as Nicolle Wallace summarizes, “the American people will be forced to care tragically too late if Donald Trump's gambit engulfs the world in flames.”
