Minisode: Pikachu vs. Kaslapus with Chelsea + Catherine

Summary

Dear Chelsea – Minisode: Pikachu vs. Kaslapus with Chelsea + Catherine

Podcast: Dear Chelsea
Hosts: Chelsea Handler & Catherine Law
Date: January 2, 2026
Episode Theme: Exploring listener questions with Chelsea’s signature mix of humor and candor, focusing on family acceptance, language around genitalia, and navigating dating after a toxic relationship.

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Episode Overview

In this minisode, Chelsea Handler and co-host Catherine Law begin with a heartwarming update from a listener whose son’s experience on the show led to a positive family revelation and marriage. They answer a witty question about euphemisms for female genitalia, before moving to an earnest conversation with a listener seeking advice about post-breakup dating and the complexities of chemistry versus comfort. The episode is marked by Chelsea’s trademark edge: honest, compassionate, and hilarious.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Heartwarming Update: Family Acceptance After Coming Out

[03:24–06:14]

• Listener letter from Erin (Whit’s mom):
  • Erin thanks Chelsea and John Lovett for helping her son Whit gain confidence in sharing his trans identity with his fiancée’s family.
  • Whit’s now-wife Anne’s parents embraced the news, expressing gratitude and stating it "didn't change how they felt. It simply didn’t matter to them in the best way."
• Impact:
  • Erin explains how the podcast validated Whit, calling Chelsea and John’s compassion “truly refreshing.”
• Chelsea & Catherine’s Reflections:
  • Chelsea: “I mean, to get a thank you letter from someone's mother is like the best gift ever.” (05:11)
  • “What a beautiful model and blueprint for anyone who is dealing with anyone. …They thanked him for sharing something so personal. That is how we treat people.” (05:25)
  • Catherine highlights the unconditional family acceptance, celebrating the beauty in their union.

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2. Lighthearted Listener Question: Pikachu vs. Kaslapus

[10:15–12:00]

• Ricky writes in: Wonders about Chelsea’s use of the terms Pikachu and Kaslapus to refer to vaginas, asking—are these words interchangeable, or is there a deeper meaning?
• Chelsea’s Explanation:
  • “Pikachu is just a softer way to say… Caslopis sounds like sloppy sea bass. …Caslopus is the dirty. Pikachu is like, oh, you have a cute little vagina. …Vagina’s a terrible word.” (10:44–11:04)
  • “I don't like the word pussy. I mean, I like calling men pussies, but I don't like saying, you know, come lick my pussy. No one says that. Oh, so gross.” (11:04)
• Catherine’s Family Terms:
  • Shares her family uses “tutti,” though that also means fart in other families, and growing up her parents used the confusing euphemism “your body.”
• Memorable Moment:
  • Chelsea muses on the word “beaver”: “Actually make a note to myself to start using beaver more often.” (11:52)

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3. Main Advice Call: Chemistry vs. Compatibility Post-Toxic Relationship

[12:00–17:27]

• Liz’s Situation (read by Catherine):
  • Liz left a controlling, right-leaning ex who demanded she change herself; after healing, she’s now dating a new, suitable man but feels no attraction despite his positive qualities.
  • She wonders if her lack of chemistry is due to missing unhealthy adrenaline “hits,” not true compatibility.
• Chelsea’s Advice:
  • “You don't have any chemistry with him, then that's it. …Don’t confuse the chemistry you had with the other guy as a sign that you should be with that guy. You just know what chemistry feels like and what a good guy feels like.” (13:48–14:13)
  • “Don't stay with some guy that you’re not attracted to… You’ve given it a couple months. You’ve tried. You’re not attracted to him. …You know exactly what you want, and you’re gonna find it, and it’s just a numbers game.” (14:28–15:29)
  • “Just trust yourself. Really trust yourself and listen to yourself. …You’re ahead of the game.” (15:54–16:04)
• Catherine’s Insight on Trauma Bonds:
  • Points out that “adrenaline hits and dopamine hits” from toxic partners can be addictive and feel like chemistry, but are different from genuine emotional connection.
  • “Sometimes, like, the Steady Eddies at the beginning can be like, is this boring? Or… just kind of fine? …That’s what you’re aiming for—right? Somebody who’s not constantly a roller coaster.” (16:04–17:17)
• Consensus:
  • Both hosts encourage Liz to hold out for a relationship that sparks genuine attraction and meets her standards, without settling or confusing trauma for love.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Chelsea Handler on Acceptance:
  “This is the way the world should be going around. Everyone should be accepting of everybody, regardless of what anything—you should be able to accept and look at everybody as a human being.” (06:03)

• On Vagina Euphemisms:
  “Vagina’s a terrible word.” – Chelsea (11:04)
  “I don’t like the word pussy. I mean, I like calling men pussies, but I don’t like saying, you know, come lick my pussy. No one says that. Oh, so gross.” – Chelsea (11:04)

• On Moving On from a Toxic Relationship:
  “You don't have to be attracted to everybody. I wish I could be attracted to more people. …You’re winning. You are on your way to finding somebody. Just stick with it and just know in your heart what you’re going to settle for.” – Chelsea (15:29)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:24] – Whit’s Mom’s Email: Heartwarming update on post-coming-out family acceptance
• [10:15] – Listener Ricky’s question on “Pikachu vs. Kaslapus,” euphemisms discussion
• [12:00] – Liz’s dilemma: Navigating dating after a toxic relationship
• [13:48] – Chelsea’s breakdown: Attraction, patterns, and advice for Liz
• [16:04] – Catherine’s explanation of trauma bonds vs. chemistry

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Tone & Takeaways

The episode is candid, funny, and heartfelt—typical of Chelsea Handler’s approach. She and Catherine blend humor with emotional intelligence, celebrating progress in inclusivity and sharing practical advice for listeners navigating love, language, and family.

For listeners seeking advice with a dose of irreverence and compassion, this episode delivers both laughs and life lessons.

Transcript

[Chelsea Handler]

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[Kathryn Law]

Oh, hi, Chelsea. How are you?

[Chelsea Handler]

I'm feeling very deep throated today. Yes, I kind of am too.

[Kathryn Law]

I don't.

[Chelsea Handler]

Is, uh, maybe, maybe I spoke to a little bit of a joint, so.

[Kathryn Law]

Well, I have a really fun update. So I'm not sure if you remember Whit from our John Lovett episode. He was getting serious with his girlfriend and wanted to propose but wasn't sure about telling her family that he's trans.

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, yes, I remember.

[Kathryn Law]

Yes, we loved Whit and I think we did update that they got engaged and that was all very happy. So I got a very special email this week. This email is from, I believe Erin. So Aaron says, hi, Chelsea. I couldn't help but think of you and the experience you shared with my son Whit when he appeared on the Dear Chelsea podcast last year. This is Whit's mom. I've been a longtime listener of Chelsea's podcast and have enjoyed her episodes on Netflix and YouTube for years. Whit and I even binge watched some of them together when I visited him in Montreal. So I was thrilled when Catherine arranged for Whit to be on the show and have the chance to ask Chelsea and John questions about his dating relationship. Shortly after the episode aired, Whit proposed to Anne. She said yes. The heart of the episode was about whether Wit should tell Anne's parents that he's trans. Before they got engaged, Chelsea and John suggested it really shouldn't matter either way. As it turns out, Anne's parents are incredible people. They were extremely understanding and expressed that they were honored. Whit and Ann shared that part of their story with them. They emphasized that it didn't change how they felt. It simply didn't matter to them in the best way. Wit's experience on Dear Chelsea gave him confidence and validation beyond what I could have imagined. The respect and Dignity Chelsea and John brought to the conversation through their openness, inclusion, and compassion was truly refreshing. As Whit's mom, I want to say how much I appreciate all of you. Today I'm flying to Montreal for Whit and Anne's wedding, and I felt it was the perfect time to reach out and express my gratitude for the kindness you showed warmly, Erin.

[Chelsea Handler]

Oh, my God. I know. Wow.

[Kathryn Law]

I know.

[Chelsea Handler]

It's just like, so keeping families together. That's what we're doing. Keeping families. I mean, to get a thank you letter from someone's mother is like the best gift ever.

[Kathryn Law]

I know. It's so delightful. So thank you so much for writing in, Erin.

[Chelsea Handler]

And by the way, what a beautiful model and blueprint for anyone who is dealing with anyone. You know, the way that this couple reacted to finding out that their new son in law is trans is so beautiful. Like, it has absolutely no impact on them. And then they thanked him for sharing something so personal. That is how we treat people.

[Kathryn Law]

And for Aaron to be obviously this woman who has a child, who maybe things went a little differently than expected as wit grew up. But guess what? Aaron loves wit and, you know, is accepting. And these families have come together and it's just.

[Chelsea Handler]

It's beautiful.

[Kathryn Law]

It's beautiful.

[Chelsea Handler]

This is the way the world should be going around. Everyone should be accepting of everybody, regardless of what anything you should be able to accept and look at everybody as a human being.

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[Chelsea Handler]

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[Kathryn Law]

Well, Ricky says. Dear Chelsea, I've been a fan of Chelsea since the Chelsea lately days. My sister and I would chat recapping your hilarious shows often, and we saw you live in New York many years ago. Anyway, I recently came across your podcast and have been listening and loving hearing the humor that I always enjoyed with my sister. Anyway, I don't need advice, but I have a ridiculous question. Pikachu versus Kaslapas. Why do you sometimes say one versus the other? Different words, same meaning. Or is there more of a distinction? Just stupidly curious. Thanks, Ricky.

[Chelsea Handler]

Great question. I love it. Pikachu is just a softer way to say, I feel like Caslopis sounds like sloppy sea bass. Like, it sounds like fish. You know what I mean? Caeslopus is like, yes, Cassalpis is the dirty. Pikachu is like, oh, you have a cute little vagina. You know, that's a nice way to say vagina. It's the nicest way to say vagina. Vagina's a terrible word.

[Kathryn Law]

It's the worst.

[Chelsea Handler]

It's not good. And so Pikachu. I don't like the word pussy. I mean, I like calling men pussies, but I don't like saying, you know, come lick my pussy. No one says that. Oh, so gross. Should we name this minisode? Come look. I can't even repeat that song.

[Kathryn Law]

I'm gonna have to use too many asterisks if we do that. Yeah, in our family it's tutti. But it wasn't when I was growing up. That came from, like, my sister's college friend, but now we call it a tutti.

[Chelsea Handler]

But a tootie is a fart also like a toot. You know, in some families, I suppose it could be.

[Kathryn Law]

In my family growing up, my parents called it your body, which is very confusing. Like, that is absolutely the wrong. They would say, like, call that your body. Oh, well, make sure to wash your.

[Chelsea Handler]

Body when you're in the shower.

[Kathryn Law]

No, no, it doesn't work.

[Chelsea Handler]

Now, I love beaver also, but that's.

[Kathryn Law]

Not for, you know, I mean, everyday consumption. No, that's not. It depends.

[Chelsea Handler]

I mean, I guess for me it is. I can pretty much say, I mean, there's nothing wrong with beaver, but actually make a note to myself to start using beaver more often.

[Kathryn Law]

Well, our caller today is Liz. She says, Dear Chelsea, about six months ago I broke up with my first long term boyfriend. He was not good for me and it took me a while to realize it. The relationship ultimately ended because he wanted me to convert to Catholicism, but truly he wanted my leftism politics to more aligned with his right wing tendencies. Looking back, I can now see his behavior was controlling and somewhat abusive at times. He was the classic love bomber that withdrew whenever he couldn't get control of me in some way. There were times I'd call him out for attempting to gaslight, verbally intimidate and physically control me. He would always become super defensive and try to put the blame on my mental state rather than take responsibility for these things. Needless to say, after getting out of that relationship, I've been in somewhat of an apathetic state about men since the breakup. I want nothing to do with any characteristic of my ex, so I've been mostly going out with guys knowing that it will lead nowhere. Well, I met a really sweet guy on the dating apps. He seems the complete opposite of my ex. We're politically aligned, share a ton of interests, and he puts in a ton of effort. The problem is I'm not that attracted to him. I totally want to be, but I've given it a few months and still feel no attraction to him. My question is, am I just continuing my patterns of falling for unhealthy relationships due to my insecure, anxious attachment style? On paper, this new guy has everything I should be looking for. But I can't help a feeling there's a lot of the chemistry missing. This leaves me thinking about the chemistry I had with my ex. I know that relationship wasn't healthy, but why do we look back with blinders feeling like that was the relationship that had something? When the new guy on paper looks so perfect, do you think I should give up on this new guy and keep looking for someone I'm more attracted to? I'm a little scared that my little self quote unquote is calling the shots. And the reason I'm not feeling the attraction is because I'm still drawn to the avoidant controlling person. Liz.

[Chelsea Handler]

Hi, Liz.

[Kathryn Law]

Hello, Chelsea. Hi.

[Chelsea Handler]

Okay, so, first of all, I think you're doing. This is great. There's so many people that call in, and they don't even know how to begin the process of dating. And I'm so glad that you're already doing it and you understand what you're. That you're avoidant. Anxious or anxious avoidant. Is that what. Yeah, you said. Okay. Anxious, avoidant. That you got away from that ex boyfriend. That's over. What you're realizing is that you don't have chemistry with this new guy. That's okay. You don't have any chemistry with him, then that's it. There's nothing happening there. But don't confuse the chemistry you had with the other guy as a sign that you should be with that guy. You just know what chemistry feels like and what a good guy feels like. So you have identified all of the things that you want in your romantic relationship. You want somebody who's reliable, who's good on paper, who's gonna be honest, who's gonna be thoughtful and. And not manipulating and not controlling. And you also wanna have chemistry. That's great. That's a victory. You know exactly what you want, and you're gonna find it, and it's just a numbers game. And don't stay with some guy that you're not attracted to. There's nothing you could do about that. You've given it a couple months. If it were three weeks, I'd say give it a couple months. But you've given it a couple months. You've tried. You're not attracted to him. You don't have to be attracted to everybody. I wish I could be attracted to more people. Do you know what I mean? I'm sure you feel the same way. I'm like, oh, God, I wish I could be attracted to you. You seem easy. But. But we've identified all of the things that you're looking for in a relationship. You're winning. You are winning. You are on your way to finding somebody. Just stick with it and just know in your heart what you're going to settle for. You're not going to go back to a guy that's controlling or domineering in any way, and you're not going to settle for somebody that isn't exactly what you're looking for.

[Kathryn Law]

Yes, I knew you would say something just like this, Chelsea, but I was making sure that I wasn't, you know, just writing off this new guy because I'm looking for something. Else. But no, I think I know. I just needed to hear it, I guess.

[Chelsea Handler]

Yeah. And listen, if you end it with this guy and in a couple months you're still thinking about him, then guess what? Then you can go back and go, God, wow, I made a mistake.

[Kathryn Law]

Yeah.

[Chelsea Handler]

So, yeah, just trust yourself. Really trust yourself and listen to yourself. You're identifying all of the things that are important to you in a relationship, and that's. You're ahead of the game.

[Kathryn Law]

Yeah. And I think, like, teasing apart this idea of having chemistry with someone from what you had with your ex, which was not just chemistry. I'm sure you had that, too. But what he also gave you were these, like, adrenaline hits and dopamine hits of I never know what's coming next. Like, when you have those arguments with people and they have your nervous system all out of whack, you are getting rushes of adrenaline every single time that happens. So that can also be very addicting. And that's a different thing than just, like, having chemistry with someone at the same time, if you don't have chemistry with this new guy, you don't have. It's friend zone. Right. But at the same time, you may find dating someone who's like, this guy that you do have chemistry with and you find yourself like, is this person too boring for me? That, I think, is the thing you want to maybe give a little more time to if you find yourself feeling that because you're not getting those dopamine and adrenaline hits of just, like, surges of hormones. Right. And sometimes, like, the Steady Eddies at the beginning can be like, is this boring? Or is this. Is this just kind of fine? So maybe give yourself a little more time if you find yourself in one of those. But that's what you're aiming for, right? Somebody who's not constantly a roller coaster.

[Chelsea Handler]

Sure.

[Kathryn Law]

Yeah. That makes sense. A lot of sense. Okay, Liz, you have some friend zoning to do. Okay, Got it. Got it. Come on in.

[Chelsea Handler]

Bye, Liz. Thanks for being here.

[Kathryn Law]

Thank you so much.

[Chelsea Handler]

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[Kathryn Law]

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[Chelsea Handler]

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