Chelsea Handler (3:44)

Hi, Rachel and Leah.

Rachel (3:46)

Hi, Chelsea and Katherine.

Chelsea Handler (3:48)

Hi. Hi, you guys. Okay, let's recap. Rachel, you're polyamorous.

Leah (3:55)

No, that would be cool.

Chelsea Handler (3:57)

Leah is polyamorous. Leah, you're polyamorous. And you're a rabbi.

Leah (4:02)

Yeah.

Chelsea Handler (4:03)

Okay. And your husband knows you're polyamorous, obviously.

Leah (4:06)

Yeah, he is, too.

Chelsea Handler (4:07)

He is too. Okay, wonderful. Great. But you're just not out to your congregation, Right? And then Rachel. So you're not polyamorous, but now you're looking to be polyamorous because you want to date Leah and other people, Right?

Rachel (4:19)

I mean, I. Yeah. Yeah, I guess I am. At that point. I, I, I want. I can't. I can't fathom not dating Leah. But I'm also trying to find my person as a monogamous person. So I guess I'm here trying to figure out where I can go from here, and I'm really struggling with that.

Chelsea Handler (4:45)

Yeah, I Can imagine. How. How did you guys meet? At temple.

Leah (4:51)

Oh, that was crazy. No, we met at a party. It was a really cute party just for women. Rachel rhinestoned my face and we smoked a joint together and it was really cute.

Chelsea Handler (5:04)

Okay, well, I need to go to your synagogue because it sounds pretty modern. No, that wasn't a synagogue part. I know, I know, I know. I'm just saying. You're right.

Katherine (5:12)

We just.

Leah (5:12)

Because I'm at the synagogue. Fair enough.

Chelsea Handler (5:14)

Yeah. You're polyamorous, you're smoking pot. Like all of these things are lining up. Okay, and Rachel, are you. Are you both bisexual or. Rachel, are you a lesbian?

Rachel (5:24)

I'm bisexual.

Chelsea Handler (5:25)

You're bisexual. Okay, so you're looking for your partner, whether that be a man or woman.

Rachel (5:29)

Right.

Chelsea Handler (5:30)

Okay, great. Well, this is very interesting, you guys. I like this. This is multi layered. I mean, Rachel, I would never say, like, I think with someone like Leah, who's a rabbi and who do you go to? Her congreg congregation? No, no. Okay.

Leah (5:46)

I would never date someone in my congregation, for the record.

Chelsea Handler (5:49)

Okay.

Leah (5:49)

Never.

Chelsea Handler (5:50)

Okay, copy that. Copy that. I think you know what the rules are. So it's a very good experiment for you and you should look at it as such. Like, I understand there are emotions involved and feelings involved and you haven't necessarily been in this kind of dynamic before. Is that correct? Yeah. Right. So I think this is a huge opportunity for you. Like, it's an opportunity to learn and grow. You and Leah can have this relationship that you have with the understanding you have all the information. So it's not like you're getting, you know, like all of a sudden you're finding out, you know, you're six months in, you're in love with someone and you find out, oh my God, they're married, they're this and that. No, you have all the information here to protect your emotions. So it's up to you to kind of do that job and say, okay, this is never going to amount to a marriage or, you know, a person. Like a primary partner. You're a primary partner. Right. This is going to amount to. It could be a huge growing and learning experience for you, which I think it will be. And. And no one's being dishonest. So that's the biggest advantage so far is that all the honesty's out on the table. And you're also looking for your person. And while you have Leah in your life, like, that's not going to prevent you from looking that person. If you do you feel like you have Fallen in love with Leah already.

Rachel (7:07)

I really love her and I definitely think that we're on that track. Yeah, I guess I'm finding it difficult to be emotionally available to other people while I have all of this love and time and energy that I'm spilling into someone who ultimately could never be my primary partner.

Chelsea Handler (7:31)

Okay, so does that make you think maybe you shouldn't be involved with Leah at all? Like you can't handle both of those things?

Rachel (7:39)

No, no. I want to figure out and work on ways where I can handle both of those things because I do love her so much and I don't ever want to not be romantically involved with her.

Katherine (7:54)

I feel like this is sort of a follow your bliss moment. Like, I know you want to find your primary partner. I know you want to find, like the one. But right now maybe it's okay to just let this be what it is and not try put all your energy in two places.

Leah (8:10)

Right.

Katherine (8:10)

We can't serve two masters. I think there's something about that maybe somewhere in the. Oh, that's New Testament. Never mind. But maybe right now you're just like having this really wonderful experience and let it be what it is. And when and if you feel like that needs to change and you need to find another partner, then like, then you move toward that.

Rachel (8:30)

Yeah.

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Chelsea Handler (12:07)

What are your major concerns? You're concerned about protecting your emotions. Is that your number one, like, fear? Yeah. Okay, well, when you have the truth right before you, it's your decision. Like, there's nothing here that's not protecting your emotions is what I'm saying. Everything is set up to protect your emotions because you know what the situation is. So, like, you have such a huge advantage. It's not like you're finding out. It's not like, you know, you're being blindsided. You know what you're getting into. And it's okay to fall in love with someone that's unavailable in a polyamorous situation. That's okay because you're also gonna fall in love with other people in your life. And just because you're in love with this person doesn't prevent you from falling in love. That's like an idea that we put in our minds. You know, you're not living together and also seeking someone out. You know, that would be something else. It's not like, oh, I have a whole life with him, but I'm still trying to meet someone else. You. She has a whole life separate from you. She has a husband, and I'm assuming she has a family, too. Do you have children, Leah?

Leah (13:11)

I have a kid. Yeah.

Chelsea Handler (13:12)

Yeah. Okay, so there you have it. How integrated is she allowed to, like, how do you and your husband have your relationship set up with, like, your other partners and your other lovers? Like, how integrated can Rachel become in your life?

Leah (13:26)

He is down to meet her. I think my best case scenario one day, if I could get my wildest fantasy, would be that she becomes like, you know, a close family friend. Like, that's how it feels for everyone in my family. Except for for me, obviously, it's beyond that. But she does not want to meet him yet. Or slash, maybe at all, which I totally understand and respect. Honestly. Like, it. When you identify as polyamorous, it is sometimes like, an initial challenge or, like, emotionally slightly complicated to meet a partner's other partner. And then if you, like, don't even identify as poly, like, oh, my gosh, that must be. I don't even know. I don't know how you're doing it, Rachel. So.

Chelsea Handler (14:15)

Yeah, yeah, right. It would be. But I wouldn't put a never on anything, you know, like, you don't want to meet him now, fine, you don't have to. But down the road, you might change your Mind, you probably will, and you probably will, depending on your own situation and what happens with your situation and who you end up seeing and dating. I wouldn't put a pin in any of that either. But I wouldn't be so aggressively in any direction. I would say to Rachel, just, like, enjoy what's happening. Enjoy your relationship with Leah. It's not a secret. That's a lifestyle that she's chosen. It might be a lifestyle that you choose also, or you might meet someone and then decide, oh, this isn't the way that. Or they might not be okay with it. They don't want you to have another lover, and then maybe that time will come and you'll have to make that decision. But I wouldn't put so much pressure on protecting your emotions. You have all the information that is your protection, and you should look at it as like a power. You know what I mean? Like, think of that. Like, no one's lying to you. So right there, you're in a powerful position to choose what you're willing, what you want. You know, do you want this? Can you handle her being with a husband? Can you handle that? Like, what do you think when you think about that in the long term of things, say you guys do fall madly in love and she is still married. How does that. How do you see that playing out? What do you think of that? Do you think that's something that you can handle right now?

Rachel (15:36)

Absolutely not in the future, potentially. I just, I think of her and her husband and I, like, I freak out. I get so sad. I get so sad. And I think in my head, wow, Leah is giving her love to someone who is not me. And that fucking sucks.

Chelsea Handler (15:57)

Right? Well, that makes, that makes it sound like, yeah, you might not be able to handle that situation because you are going to be too jealous. And, and, and, and, you know, and that means you're probably not polyamorous. What thoughts have you given to being polyamorous?

Rachel (16:12)

I've never thought about being polyamorous until I started dating Lia two months ago, so. Or I guess three months ago now. And I've been on a few dates with people since. And a defining factor now, and I haven't really talked to you about this before, Leah, but it's, you know, is someone. Would someone be down with me having a girlfriend or dating someone else or, you know, would that person be open to polyamory with this specific person who I really love? I. I'm not closing off any options. And, and like you said, Chelsea, I'm. I'm I'm focusing on staying in the moment and staying present and being present. Because anytime I go and I spiral and my emotions get the most of me, I have to check back in with myself, take a few breaths and remind myself this is. It's. It's practicing being in the moment. It's practicing being here now. Because when I'm here now and I check in with myself, I'm like, everything's great. I am really happy, and I'm with someone who makes me really happy, and everything's going to be fine. So I think that if I continue to check back in with myself and remind myself that I'm okay, then it's going to be okay down the line. Because I've come to terms in many ways that we will never, you know, get married or have children together, and Leah will never be my primary partner.

Katherine (17:47)

I think one of the things you should take from this call is that it's okay to let yourself enjoy this for what it is right now. And checking in with yourself is the best way to do that. And, like, making sure that that's still the loudest voice. And then when there is a louder voice about, like, it's time to move on, or it's time to find, like, a monogamous relationship. When and if that time comes, once that is louder, then you know, it's time to make a change. But I think you're okay to, like, let yourself enjoy this for a while. Cause you both seem really happy and glowy, and you're in the throes of things, and I think you'll know when and if it's time to move on.

Chelsea Handler (18:21)

Yeah. I think you answered everything I was asking. Rachel, I think you really are enjoying yourself. Being present, being in the moment. When it becomes. If. If it becomes emotionally tumultuous for you, then yes, then that's a time where you have to go, okay, maybe I need a timeout or maybe I need to break this off. But I would say just go for it right now. It's a huge, like, expansive experience that you're having with someone. It's been a couple months. Have fun. Enjoy it. You know what the rules are. Play the game and enjoy yourself. And just take it one step at a time. And be mindful of where your head is at, you know? And if it becomes too overwhelming for you, make sure that you're checking in with that, too. And then that's fine. And I'm sure Leah will be respectful of that if and when that does happen. Yeah.

Rachel (19:07)

Yeah. Thank you. That is the way to go about it. Because this is so special and I don't want to give up on this or leave this. I would like to continue to check in with myself and see where this can go.

Leah (19:20)

My dream is to be her bridesmaid one day.

Chelsea Handler (19:24)

Okay. Well, I'm very excited about the possibilities and the outcome of this and where this goes. I mean, in a perfect world, you'll find a partner. They'll be polyamorous, you'll all be polyamorous, and you can live a happily ever after life with just like two partners, each of you. And then like, great, then we're really evolving. Yeah.

Leah (19:41)

Thank you.

Chelsea Handler (19:42)

Okay.

Katherine (19:42)

All right, keep us posted. Okay.

Chelsea Handler (19:44)

Take care, you two.

Rachel (19:45)

Thank you, Chelsea and Katherine.

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