Casey & Millie’s Most Romantic Movies Ever

Summary

Dear Movies, I Love You: Episode Summary – "Casey & Millie’s Most Romantic Movies Ever"

Release Date: February 11, 2025
Hosts: Millie De Chirico and Casey O'Brien
Podcast Network: Exactly Right

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Introduction

In this heartfelt and engaging episode of Dear Movies, I Love You, hosts Millie De Chirico and Casey O'Brien delve into the realm of romantic cinema. They explore their most cherished romantic films, share personal anecdotes, and engage in playful banter, all while treating movies as beloved romantic partners. This episode is a must-listen for film enthusiasts seeking both classic and unconventional takes on romance.

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Film Diary: Recent Movie Experiences

Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom

Timestamp: [04:27]
Millie revisits the controversial and intense film Salo, or the 120 Days of Sodom by Pier Paolo Pasolini. She praises its artistic boldness despite its disturbing content.

Millie De Chirico: "I saw it again because it was playing at my local movie theater... it is literally one of the hardest but most interesting films I've ever seen."

Casey acknowledges its notoriety, placing it among the top five most infamous films of all time.

Two Moon Junction

Timestamp: [09:10]
Millie introduces Two Moon Junction, an 1988 erotic thriller directed by Zalman King. She reminisces about her film club's fascination with the genre and highlights Sherilyn Fenn's captivating performance.

Millie De Chirico: "This movie is so insane... it's so good and funny and weird and corny and amazing."

Anora

Timestamp: [12:44]
Casey shares his experience watching Anora, a film directed by Sean Baker. He describes it as a fun and uplifting watch, countering expectations of tragedy.

Casey O'Brien: "I had a great time. More people should see it."

Truly, Madly, Deeply

Timestamp: [13:23]
Casey discusses Truly, Madly, Deeply, a 1990 film starring Alan Rickman and Juliet Stevenson. He commends its emotional depth and recounts his five-star rating on Letterboxd.

Casey O'Brien: "I was just very deeply moved by that film. More people should see it."

Romeo and Michelle's High School Reunion

Timestamp: [13:43]
Casey reflects on Romeo and Michelle's High School Reunion, a 1997 comedy featuring Mira Sorvino and Lisa Kudrow. He appreciates its portrayal of friendship and lighthearted romance.

Casey O'Brien: "It's a really great girl friendship gal pal friendship movie. And it's very sweet."

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Exploring Romantic Themes in Movies

Defining Romance in Cinema

Timestamp: [21:33]
Millie articulates her perspective on what makes a movie romantic, emphasizing the themes of longing and two people against the world.

Millie De Chirico: "Number one is longing. So wanting to be with someone or a character that wants to be with someone but can't."

Casey echoes these sentiments, highlighting the importance of tension and uncertainty in romantic narratives.

Casey O'Brien: "The movie needs to make me feel like they really might not end up together."

Personal Reflections on Romance

Millie and Casey share personal anecdotes about how romantic films have influenced their perceptions of love and relationships. Millie admits her secret love for romance despite her earlier tough exterior.

Millie De Chirico: "I've gone on record so much on my previous podcast... I actually secretly loved romance."

Casey concurs, acknowledging how movie portrayals of romance set unrealistic expectations.

Casey O'Brien: "I think how I thought romance was supposed to go was very much based on movie romance, which real life is not like that, sadly."

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Casey Crush: Romantic Movie Quiz

Millie introduces a fun and challenging segment titled Casey Crush, where she provides synopses of romantic films containing the word "love," and Casey attempts to name them.

1. Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

Timestamp: [56:49]
Millie describes the dark satire starring George C. Scott and Peter Sellers.

Millie De Chirico: "A rogue US general triggers a nuclear crisis."

Casey O'Brien: "Dr. Strangelove. Or how I Learned to Love the Atomic bomb."

Millie confirms Casey's correct guess at [57:00].

2. Only Lovers Left Alive

Timestamp: [57:54]
Millie presents a synopsis of Jim Jarmusch's hypnotic romance about vampire lovers.

Millie De Chirico: "Two centuries old vampire lovers who are reuniting in a decaying world."

Casey O'Brien: "Only Lovers Left Alive."

Millie again verifies the correct answer at [58:17].

3. Mad Love

Timestamp: [59:33]
Millie challenges Casey with a synopsis of a chilling horror tale featuring Peter Lorre.

Millie De Chirico: "A brilliant but deranged surgeon becomes obsessively infatuated with an actress."

Casey O'Brien: "Mad Love."

Millie congratulates Casey on his correct answer at [59:58].

4. The Loveless

Timestamp: [61:17]
Millie describes a stylish neo-noir film about a motorcycle gang, marking Willem Dafoe's first film role.

Millie De Chirico: "A motorcycle gang drifting through a small Southern town."

Casey O'Brien: "The Loveless."

Millie confirms Casey's accuracy at [61:44].

5. [Unanswered Synopsis]

Timestamp: [61:59]
Millie provides the final movie synopsis, leaving it unresolved in the transcript. However, based on context, it's likely another classic romantic film with "love" in the title.

Note: In the transcript provided, the fifth synopsis appears to include an incorrect title reference, leading to ambiguity. For the purpose of this summary, the fifth movie remains unnamed.

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Employee Picks: Recommended Romantic Movies

Tampopo

Timestamp: [65:32]
Casey recommends Tampopo, a 1985 Japanese film directed by Juzo Itami. While primarily a culinary movie, it weaves in sweet romantic subplots.

Casey O'Brien: "It's more about the love affair with Japanese cuisine, but there's really sweet romances between a few different characters."

Millie praises the choice, highlighting its unique blend of humor and romance.

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Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Millie and Casey wrap up the episode by encouraging listeners to explore both classic and nuanced romantic films. They reiterate the importance of longing and the complexities of love in cinema, urging fans to seek out the timeless stories they've discussed.

Millie De Chirico: "If you've not seen any of those movies, especially the older ones that we mentioned, you should really seek them out."

Casey O'Brien: "We’re both two mushes. I hope you enjoyed our deep dive into romantic movies."

They also invite listeners to engage with them via email and social media for movie recommendations and discussions.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Millie on Salo:
  [05:03] "I have to watch this as an adult and process it at a higher level."

• Casey on Truly, Madly, Deeply:
  [13:36] "I just had a great time... I was deeply moved by that film."

• Millie on Defining Romance:
  [21:33] "Number one is longing... Number two is two people against the world."

• Casey on Romantic Tension:
  [25:13] "I think the movie needs to make me feel like they really might not end up together."

• Millie on Hampering Romantic Nostalgia:
  [23:51] "They have such a finite amount of time to be around each other... it's just this beautiful, tender, restrained film about unfulfilled desire."

• Millie on Only Lovers Left Alive:
  [58:31] "I love it more now than I ever have... I loved it so much, I bought the first book in the series."

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Final Thoughts

"Casey & Millie’s Most Romantic Movies Ever" offers a deep, nuanced exploration of romance in cinema. Through thoughtful discussions and engaging segments, Millie and Casey share their love for both classic and offbeat romantic films, providing listeners with a rich tapestry of cinematic love stories to cherish and explore.

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Transcript

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[Millie de Cherico]

Hi, Casey. What's happening?

[Casey O'Brien]

Hi, Millie. It's so good to see you again. It really is.

[Millie de Cherico]

It's good to see you. It's good to hear you.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's good to be in our each other's presences. This is a romantic episode we're about to talk about, Millie. It's thrilling romance, baby. Coming up in this episode, we're gonna do another installment of our film diary segment. And I believe we're gonna be talking about some romantic movies. Isn't that right, Millie?

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah. We're gonna do a thing where Casey and I are both gonna pick our top three favorite romantic films, right?

[Casey O'Brien]

That's right. And Millie's got another game for me. She tried to stump me last time with her.

[Millie de Cherico]

Actually, I didn't stump you at all.

[Casey O'Brien]

Dixie Dream Girl trivia. And it didn't work. She didn't stump Me.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, I threw the softest of softballs at you this time, though, bitch. You're gonna fucking cry. You're gonna. You're gonna fail it. I just know it.

[Casey O'Brien]

We'll see. We'll see. You don't know. You don't know.

[Millie de Cherico]

It's gonna be a great episode, don't you think?

[Casey O'Brien]

I know it's gonna be a great episode.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yes. We are gonna be in love with this episode for sure. And hope that you are, too on this episode of Dear Movies. I love you. Dear Movies, I love you.

[Casey O'Brien]

And I've got to know if you love me too. Yes or no? Check the.

[Millie de Cherico]

Foreign. Welcome to another episode of Dear Movies. I love you. This is the podcast where we talk about movies as if they were our romantic partners and whatnot. My name is Millie de Cherico.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's right. And I'm Casey O'Brien, the other host. Yes, I mean, it's very apropos. We're talking about love. We're talking about romance. And this is a podcast all about our love and romantic feelings towards movies. So it's very simpatico with the theme of today's show, but we have a great show today, Millie. I'm so thrilled to be talking about romantic movies. But first, we must get into our film diary. We have to open up our diaries and read aloud our innermost thoughts, basically just pertaining to the movies we watched. But what movies have you seen in the past week or so?

[Millie de Cherico]

Hold on. I'm unlocking my diary with the tiniest little key.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yep. And the key is on a necklace around your neck, Is that correct?

[Millie de Cherico]

And the key is so flimsy that it sometimes bends in the lock, and then you're just like. You have to pop it open with, like, a pen or something. All right, it's open now. Okay. So this week I rewatched Salo or. Or the 120 days of Sodom by Pierre Paulo Pasolini.

[Casey O'Brien]

Very not for the Faint of Heart.

[Millie de Cherico]

A very notorious film, as you know.

[Casey O'Brien]

I would say it's in the top five most notorious films of all time, wouldn't you say?

[Millie de Cherico]

I would.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's up there.

[Millie de Cherico]

I would argue it's number one.

[Casey O'Brien]

It could be number one. That's not a crazy thing to say.

[Millie de Cherico]

That's not crazy. Let me tell you right now. I have not seen cello since the late 90s. I mean, I watched it pretty much when I was in film school because it was. Again, it was like this. It feels like. It feels like an achievement or something when you've watched it for the first time you're like, oh, I. I went through some shit. Literally. Okay. I. I watched.

[Casey O'Brien]

What year did that come out?

[Millie de Cherico]

I want to say it's like 70. Oh, yeah, 75. 75.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay.

[Millie de Cherico]

But I saw it again, and. And the reason why I saw it again is because it was playing at my local movie theater. You know, I think we all know why, because we have a new president in office and there. That has been going on there called, like, Cinema of Resistance or Resistance Cinema or something, which is brilliant, brilliant programming by the Plaza Theater, by the way. But, yeah, so I saw it in the movie theater on 35. And I mean, it is such a film. Like, it is. There are moments of disgustingness. I mean, obviously the whole thing is. Is basically, you know, an allegory for fascism, right?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie de Cherico]

And it's very intense. A lot of nudity, a lot of, you know, body fluid stuff. Obviously, really crazy. However, as an artistic statement, I gotta say, it is fucking insane. Like, it is such. Such a big swing, and I think that's why it's number one, because it's just. It is literally, like, one of the hardest but most interesting films I've ever seen in my life.

[Casey O'Brien]

For those who haven't seen. Is about. It's set in World War II, and it's a group of fascists. It's kind of like during wartime when people are, like, kind of getting away with just doing horrible stuff. And it's set. It's a group of fascists round up nine adolescent boys and girls and subject them to 120 days of physical, mental, and sexual tor. Torture. And these group of fascists are kind of like, oh, won't it be interesting to do these little experiments and do these little games? It's all kind of, like, fun and. Or it's just they're doing it at their own sort of fancy. Because they want to and they can, you know, and.

[Millie de Cherico]

Right. They're the representative of this sort of, like, bourgeoisie. These, like, you know, leaders in power who are, like, walking around in their opulent outfits and then, like, torturing young people sexually and physically and emotionally. So it's really. But, you know, again, like, as a person who has written and studied and been a part of, like, cult movies for, you know, 20 years, you know, there are, like, films that you're kind of like, oh, this is a big one. This is like one of the big. You know, this movie is a challenge and is unpleasant and, you know, but. But I have to say, like, I'm glad I saw it again. I'm so glad I saw it now that I'm as old as I am versus what I saw it when I was in college and I was, as you call in your shithead phase, where you're just watching provocative things just to watch them. And now I'm like, oh, I can watch this as an adult and process it at, you know, a higher level, if you will. So I don't know it was it. I still think it's. It's one of the most interesting movies I've ever seen in my entire life. So there's that.

[Casey O'Brien]

I would say Cello is. You know, if this was a ski mountain grade, it would be a black diamond in terms of difficulty to like in your film Journey. It's a tough one. It ain't the bunny slopes. So I, I would, you know, if you don't know what it is and you don't know what you. You might want to do some research on it before you watch that one. But it is, I. It's a. It's amazing. It exists and it is wild.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yes, it is wild. Speaking of wild and maybe wild in a slightly different way, maybe not. I also watched for the very first time this movie called Two Moon Junction, which is this movie from 1988. And it was directed by another sort of notorious director, Zalman King. If you don't know Zalman King, he was kind of a director and peddler of sort of what they would call like softcore porn in the 80s and 90s. He was responsible for the Red Shoe Diaries.

[Casey O'Brien]

Ah, yes.

[Millie de Cherico]

You know, he did a couple of great. Like, there was a couple of films that he did early on that I had actually programmed on TCM Underground, like some call it Loving and Blue Sunshine and whatnot. But he is mostly known for kind of like that Wild Orchid slash Red Shoe Diaries, softcore porn stuff. Now, Two Moon Junction, this was something that I watched with my. I have a group of friends who I started a club with actually many, many, many, many years ago before I moved to la, actually. And it was called. And I got to tell you, we were ground floor about this. We decided to create a film club called Consenting Adults. And it was all about, you know, our movie club was going to watch erotic thrillers. And we were, like I said, ground floor on the resurgence of erotic thrillers. I mean, it was like a decade before Baby Girl. Okay. So, you know, but we were kind of interested in rewatching a lot of these sort of erotic thriller thriller classics. And we've seen them all at this Point. It's been going for years and years. Right. So Two Moon Junction literally just came up and we decided to watch it, and I got to tell you, it is fantastic.

[Casey O'Brien]

Wow. I mean, the COVID looks great. There Sherilyn Fen is in throws of passion with. Who's that actor?

[Millie de Cherico]

His.

[Casey O'Brien]

The actor is named Richard Tyson.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yes. Who played the bad guy from Kindergarten Cop, if you'll remember.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes, yes.

[Millie de Cherico]

He is wild in this film. So. This movie is so insane. And Sherilyn Fenn, I gotta tell you, like, I know that she. Of Twin Peaks fame, of course, she was known for being in kind of risque and slightly controversial films in her career, and this was definitely one of them. I know that she has talked about being in this movie subsequently, and, you know, I don't know if she had, like, such a positive experience. I don't know. I mean, you're gonna have to go and do your research about that. But basically, like, in this film, it's kind of this, like, crazy Southern gothic erotic thriller where she plays, like, this woman who's about to be married to this, like, fucking Southern college football nightmare guy. And then she meets the Richard Tyson character at the carnival, and he's this, like, total, like, Brando wannabe, like, fucking Tennessee Williams guy. He doesn't wear a shirt ever. He's never wearing a shirt. And they end up having this, like, affair. And, I mean, there's so many wonderful details in this movie. It's so good and funny and weird and corny and amazing. So anyway, gotta tell you, if you're into this kind of weird world of, like, the kind of shitty skin type of stuff, this is. This is really.

[Casey O'Brien]

This is for you.

[Millie de Cherico]

This is the filet. Baby, you are gonna eat. Well, so said for me.

[Casey O'Brien]

Wonderful, wonderful. Well, let me crack my knuckles. Crack open my diary here. Okay. I finally saw Anora, which we discussed on a previous episode. Loved it. Love, Sean Baker. This is a very fun, fun movie. I had a great time. It's not as. It's not. You. You worry with movies like these that it's going to be super tragic, but it's just. I just had a great time. Okay, then, you know this. We recorded an episode of My Favorite Murder. You remember that?

[Millie de Cherico]

I do. Of course I remember that.

[Casey O'Brien]

And I mentioned that I saw this movie Truly, Madly, Deeply.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yes.

[Casey O'Brien]

So that's in my film diary here. Watched Truly, Madly, Deeply and loved it. Five stars on letterboxd.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, wow, wow, wow, wow.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie de Cherico]

Okay.

[Casey O'Brien]

I was just very deeply moved by that film. More people should see it.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yes.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's from 1990. It's. It stars Alan Rickman. It's directed by Anthony Minguela. Stars Juliet Stevenson. Her boyfriend dies and he comes back as a ghost. And you're like, why is he coming back as a ghost? What unfinished business might he have? Well, watch the movie and you'll find out. And recently, I don't know if I logged this on letterboxd, but I recently re. Watched Romeo and Michelle's High School Reunion, which is one of my favorite movies of all time. Yeah, I think came out in 1997. Mira Sorvino.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yes.

[Casey O'Brien]

And Lisa Kudrow. They go to their high school reunion, and it is just a silly, bright, fun. I love friendship movies. And it's a really great girl friendship gal pal friendship movie. And it's very sweet and I love it. And I wish more movies took big swings like that movie did in the.

[Millie de Cherico]

You know who I love in that movie?

[Casey O'Brien]

Janine Grah.

[Millie de Cherico]

Duh. Are you kidding me?

[Casey O'Brien]

Like, she's amazing in that.

[Millie de Cherico]

She makes the cigarette paper that burns faster.

[Casey O'Brien]

Our cigarette smoking queen. You know, I was thinking about this, Millie. We should do a whole cigarette episode.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, I would love that. As you know, I would love.

[Casey O'Brien]

And maybe we can smoke cigarettes while we record the episode.

[Millie de Cherico]

We'll be like, you know, French New wave directors while we're, like, puffing away at doing this episode. Yeah, no, she's fantastic, that movie. I just, like, love her whole vibe. Like, her, like, she just hates everybody in her high school. Yeah. I mean, that was me. I mean, I won't say she's exactly me because I wasn't that antagonistic. She, like, hates and eviscerates everyone in their high school. I was. I still wanted to be liked by all the people that I hated.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie de Cherico]

But I was pretty much like, I hate you all, you know, so.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never been to a high school reunion, and I don't think I ever will. I kind of wish I had one like Romeo and Michelle, but I don't think. I don't think my school organ. I don't think those happen anymore because Facebook destroyed the high school reunion. But yeah.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, I could never. Sorry. I could never. I've been invited, I think, like, twice. And I'm just like, nope. Like, do you not have enough positive memories about that experience? Unfortunately, I really don't. And the people that I liked from my high school, I more or less still talk to, which is like, literally, like a tiny handful of people. So why do I need to go to reunion who gives a.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's true. Very true.

[Millie de Cherico]

Sorry.

[Casey O'Brien]

That is my film diary.

[Millie de Cherico]

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[Millie de Cherico]

All righty. Well, that was fun.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes.

[Millie de Cherico]

Ready to talk about love?

[Casey O'Brien]

Let's talk about love, Millie. Let's talk about love. Are you. Do you like romantic movies, Millie?

[Millie de Cherico]

Of course I do. Are you kidding? I. I've gone on record so much about this. On my previous podcast, I saw what you did, which is that I. I fronted for so many years, maybe decades in fact, of being a type of person that was not interested in like romance and you know, kind of like lovey dovey Stuff. I was like, come on. I was watching Salo and Cannibal Holocaust and things of that nature. I was like, too based for love, right? Yeah. You want to watch Harmony?

[Casey O'Brien]

Karine's Trash Humpers? You don't want to watch something about love?

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah. I'm like, oh, God, like, whatever. Like When Harry Met Sally. But now I'm here to admit, and have admitted most recently in the past several years, that I actually secretly loved romance. And I. I snuck movies like When Harry Met Sally. So I was like, yeah, my friends were watching Fucking Wake and Frightening. Yeah, you. And then I'm like, secretly at home re watching Untamed heart for the 80th time. I was, like, obsessed with love and wanting boyfriends and having crushes on people. And, you know, I like, would, like, really watch a lot of romantic stuff, especially the stuff that would come on tv. Like, you know, reruns of, you know, romcoms and stuff that they play constantly. I just would sit in front of that stuff all the time, and I'm like, oh, God, 13 going on 30. I gotta watch it again. I still love this movie.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie de Cherico]

But no one will know about it because I'm too cool.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. So anyway, Janine Garofalo, smoking cigs with dark eyeshadow.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, yeah. I was like, I'd rather put. I'd rather put this out in my eye is what I was telling you. But inside, I was, you know, feeling.

[Casey O'Brien]

All sorts of feelings.

[Millie de Cherico]

Of course.

[Casey O'Brien]

I guess what. I guess a question at the foundation of all this is, what do you think makes a movie romantic? Because you'll watch, you know, you watch these Hallmark, and this is no slight to Hallmark movies, but they don't necessarily make my heart feel that romantic poll that some really excellent films do. You know, what is it that makes, you know, makes you yearn, makes you feel romantic? Makes. Makes you want to experience love? What is it in a movie? I know this is kind of a big question, but what is it that makes a romantic movie?

[Millie de Cherico]

For me, this is right off the dome. If you ask me about this in, like, a week, I probably have a more opinionated answer. I think there's two things for me that really get me. Number one is longing. So wanting to be with someone or a character that wants to be with someone but can't. That might come up in my choices for this one, for this episode. And the other is the idea of, like, two people against the world or two people against society. Right. Cause, like, let's get serious. Like, you know, I'm A fucking. I am Janine Garofalo. I was, like, really into goth and punk and sort of less obvious forms of romance my entire life, right? Because, yeah, I think a lot of this is gonna get kind of deep and you'll have to bear with me on this, but I think as somebody who was not like, really into dating and sort of. I wasn't like, you know, a person that experienced sort of like this really, like, you know, happy, sappy, like, love life when I was growing up. Like, I always was like, the obsession excessively crushed out, like weirdo in the back of the classroom. I was not like, you know, some popular girl bouncing around like, boyfriend or boyfriend, Right. So in my mind, I think, you know, I'm sitting here being like all the stuff that I liked, which was art and music and, you know, I was like, listening to the Smiths, dude. Like.

[Casey O'Brien]

Sure.

[Millie de Cherico]

So that. To me, when I. When I watch films, those sort of, like, unobvious forms of romance are the ones that get to me. So, like, you know, a love. I will call it generically a sort of Bonnie and Clyde scenario of, like, two people who are, like, kind of destined to be together and then the world is against them or society is against them and they're. They're. They've got each other or. Yeah, I mean, tales about people who, you know, like, maybe you mentioned this Juan Car Wise, in the Mood for Love. Two people that want to be together but can't because there are external forces that keep them apart. You know, any kind of movie like that. So those are what I think are. Are what make romantic movies for me. But I don't know. You have a different answer, maybe?

[Casey O'Brien]

No, I think you answered exactly. The movie needs to make me feel like they really might not end up together. I feel like there needs to be that tension in the movie for it to feel romantic. Because if it just is like, lovey dovey the whole time. And it's like you watch these rom coms and you're like, oh, obviously they're gonna get together, but I think you have to like. I think actually that's what makes When Harry Met Sally a good movie. Because you're like, I don't. Like, I don't remember the first time I watched it, but, you know, it feels like they might not end up together, you know, and kind of hand in hand with that. That longing you mentioned. I love the visualization of longing. I'm bringing up Wong Kar Wai again. Wong, the in the Mood for Love is such a romantic movie. Because there's all these shots of Tony Lung, like, smoking a cigarette in slow motion, and you're, like, longing. I am longing actively on screen, you know, and it's. It's just. It's just pulling these feelings out of you because you just see these people staring at each other. They're just looking at each other, and I love that feeling. I like that. That. That's, like, what makes it a romantic genre is like, that palpable longing on screen.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah. Oh, man. I have something to recommend for you later then, in our employee picks, because we'll. We'll put a pin in that. We'll talk about that later.

[Casey O'Brien]

Put a pin.

[Millie de Cherico]

Put a pin in. Yeah. No, I agree. And, like, it's funny because, you know, I think that, again, I want. I keep going back to this idea of sort of the ways in which love had been presented to me when I was a young person. So, again, like, I think that part of, like, what I leaned into when I was first sort of, you know, when I was, like, a little girl, right, was that I was watching, like, Sixteen Candles and, you know, the John Hughes Universe. And again, I was, like, pretty young when those movies came out, like, in the mid-80s. And, you know, those were all about, like, invariably, like, nerdy people or poor people who had crushes on people who were, quote, unquote, out of their league and higher status. Higher status or, like, you know, just sort of, like, different vibes. And, I mean, I will. I can't even tell you, like, when, you know, I was presented with the whole, like, Sixteen Candles scenario of, like, Jake Ryan and, you know, Molly Ringwald's character where he was this, like, beautiful, popular guy and she was this kind of, you know, boring nerd. I don't even think she was a nerd. I think she was just sort of, like, quiet. Quiet or just sort of, like, cool. She was into music. And that. That was the literal blueprint for everything that I would love about romance subsequently is the, like, popular guy from high school who, like, hates being popular and wants to get with, like, the cool girl that likes music and is, like, like, has a good family and is, like, a nerd. You know, like, that kind of thing. Like, she, like, loves hanging out with her parents or something like that. Like, that dynamic. To me, I mean, it ruined my life, Casey. It has ruined my life. It continues to ruin my life. But that's, like. The thing is, I think that's what creates the tension of the will they or won't they or it's just like there's no way these two people can be together. He's like, he dates, you know, Carolyn, who you know is like the most beautiful blonde in their high school. He could never find, you know, interest in Molly Ringwald. But odds are I, you know, I.

[Casey O'Brien]

I think we share a history here because I think both, I think the shared history is that romantic movies have ruined our lives and have made us worse people. And because I think that I was like not a dater, I, I mean I, you know, I kind of dated here and there, but I never had a long term girlfriend until, well, until my 20s.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

And I feel like how I thought romance was supposed to go was very much based on movie romance, which real life is not like that, sadly. Yeah, it's not like that. And if you get caught up in that narrative of wanting your real life romances to always feel, sometimes they do, but they don't always feel like they do in the movies.

[Millie de Cherico]

Well, I think when you go to therapy and you grow up a little bit or something, you realize that those, that dynamic of being like, of like the ins. Intense, insane longing is sort of disordered.

[Casey O'Brien]

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[Casey O'Brien]

So Millie and I have picked our three favorite romantic movies. Most romantic movies. And I don't know what hers are. This is a complete surprise. So, Millie, what is your first? These don't have to be in any particular order, but what.

[Millie de Cherico]

I'm putting them in order. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go from like three to one. How about that?

[Casey O'Brien]

If you pick one that I picked, I'm gonna be so pissed.

[Millie de Cherico]

I'm gonna. This fist is gonna come through the screen and punch you, right?

[Casey O'Brien]

I'm gonna, like. I'm gonna scream.

[Millie de Cherico]

But wouldn't it be. It wouldn't be cute if we picked the exact same three.

[Casey O'Brien]

It would be cute.

[Millie de Cherico]

Okay, so let me go. Let me go. Number three. So my third most favorite romantic movie is a movie from 1945. It was directed by a man named David Lane.

[Casey O'Brien]

Millie.

[Millie de Cherico]

No. No. Did you pick Brief Encounter? Did you break Brief Encounter? I haven't.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's on my list. I swear to God. It's the first one on my list.

[Millie de Cherico]

The first one.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, my God.

[Millie de Cherico]

Okay. This. We should have checked. We should have checked. Okay, so we both have this one on our list. This is sort of. Okay. Would you say this. This movie feels a little bit like the blueprint for in the Mood for Love, right?

[Casey O'Brien]

In the Mood for Love and Carol.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah, I feel like also this.

[Casey O'Brien]

Tell people what Brief Encounter is about. A perfect film. Oh, it's perfect in my estimation. A perfect film.

[Millie de Cherico]

So this is a film about two strangers who meet in a train station. Okay. They're both married. They're played by the actors Celia Johnson and Trevor Howard. Okay.

[Casey O'Brien]

Beautiful. It's so beautiful.

[Millie de Cherico]

Beautiful. Black and white. Completely British, wouldn't you say? Like, there's this restraint to it. That I feel like, is a British thing. They meet in this train station, they fall in love, and then they're just sort of like, going through. Through the machinations of, like, wanting to be with each other, but they can't because it's. They have a lot of. There's societal expectations. I mean, this is 1945. I mean, this is a different era for women, but for men too. So it's like. It's just this, like, completely beautiful, tender, restrained film about unfulfilled desire.

[Casey O'Brien]

They are both. Yeah, they're both married. They can't. They kind of fall in love accidentally. Like, they kind of bump into each other a couple times randomly. And then it's kind of like, oh, let's go see a movie. And then they both. I think there's a scene where they're. I think. I can't remember who says it, but they're like, we both realized what has happened, don't we?

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah. Oh, my God. And it's like, you know, and also, like. Don't you think. Sorry to mean, interrupt you.

[Casey O'Brien]

No.

[Millie de Cherico]

But also, isn't this movie. This movie is like, a pure example of how other people can up your. So badly.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

[Millie de Cherico]

Like, all the people that they run across, like, they just. They have such a finite amount of time to be around each other because they're both waiting for trains. And then it's like they're trying to sit there and, like, look into each other's eyes and have a moment. And then this fucking.

[Casey O'Brien]

They have, like, five minutes.

[Millie de Cherico]

I know. And like, the fucking. You know, Porter comes in is like, wasop.

[Casey O'Brien]

Like.

[Millie de Cherico]

Like, can you get this guy out of here? He's ruining the vibe.

[Casey O'Brien]

Like, yeah, yeah. They literally have, like, 30 seconds in between trains just to, like, look at each other. And this guy's like, how's it going there? Yeah. Unbelievable. What a film. Celia Johnson's face tells an entire story. She has these big eyes. She kind of looks like Andre Audrey Tatto. And she just communicates this longing and this sadness and this desire. Like, oh, it is a such a good.

[Millie de Cherico]

And the ending is gonna put your heart in a vice and crush it forever. The ending, you're.

[Casey O'Brien]

You're gonna actually. This is actually gonna ruin your life forever. You will be sadder and in a worse place if you see this movie.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, my God. I can't believe you picked the same movie. That's so funny.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, my God. Okay, so I'm. I. But I have to say three. I need to say a different one. One now. Okay. So that one's been scratched. All right. Okay, I'm Gonna say Number Three for Me is a film from 1946, directed by F. Frank Capra. It's a Wonderful Life.

[Millie de Cherico]

Okay, I was about to say I was getting nervous. What a. Come on. What a great movie.

[Casey O'Brien]

I love this movie. And there's a scene where.

[Millie de Cherico]

Don't say it. Don't say it. Is it the scene that I'm thinking of with Donna Reed with the phone. Oh, my God, Casey.

[Casey O'Brien]

What phone scene? They're both listening on a phone and he's like smelling her hair. Is that her? Is it Donna Reed? Yes, Donna Reed. Jimmy Stewart. It's a Wonderful Life. It's known as a Christmas movie, but it's so much more than. And I love Christmas movies, but it's so much more than that. It's like, about life and romance and the fulfillment of life. And I think it gets to something that I think I really love in romance movies too, where part of the romance is discovering the joy of life rather than just the love of this person. It's discovering yourself too. I think that's what makes a good romantic movie too, where it's like a person is going through self discovery. And you know, Jimmy Stewart, you know, down on his luck guy, he's visited by, he's like, I wish I was dead. I wish I was never born. And an angel comes and his. Shows him his life and what the world would be like without George Bailey. And there's this beautiful scene. Yeah, like I already mentioned there. He's smelling her hair while they're listening on the phone. And it is hot. It's hot. And they look great and it's beautiful.

[Millie de Cherico]

I gotta tell you, like, I, I, I, I think that there are a few moments in early Jimmy Stewart's career where I was like, I would kiss that man on the mouth with tongue, perhaps. And this is the number one.

[Casey O'Brien]

Like, he, he has kissable mouth syndrome.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, my God, he, he was so cute. Like back in his early career. I mean, later, like every, A lot of people think, oh, yeah, Vertigo. No, no, no, now.

[Casey O'Brien]

Philadelphia Story. Looking great.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, man. Like everything. I mean, even in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. I'm like, that little wispy hair when he gets all stressed out, I'm like, he's so cute. So. But this one is, I mean, honestly, every time I watch that scene of them on the phone, I get butterflies in my stomach.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes. Yeah. And then he's all like, oh, no. What are you all there?

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, God. Now you just Ruined it. You've ruined my fresh.

[Casey O'Brien]

I thought that was pretty good impression.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, no, you. You have completely nailed it. But then you remember Jimmy Stewart. Talk like that.

[Casey O'Brien]

The body's not in the bank. It's out of Frank's house. I love that. Oh, it's a Wonderful Life. Just such a beautiful. I love a scene too where someone's running happily. It's like a great way. Merry Christmas. You know where he's running. It's great. Okay, that's my number three.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah, thanks. Thanks for picking that American classic. My number two selection. I hope to God you didn't pick this because we are fucked if you did. But this movie is from 1950 and it was directed by Joseph H. Lewis. It's called Gun Crazy.

[Casey O'Brien]

Gun Crazy. I have not seen this movie.

[Millie de Cherico]

Okay, Casey, you gotta fix that asap. This better be on your film diary next week or else. Gun Crazy is a noir. A noir film. It is an early entry into that sort of thing that I mentioned earlier. The kind of Bonnie and Clyde setup. It's a. You know, very much that it's so. It's. And you're thinking. I'm saying this right now, and you're thinking, what about. This is romantic. I'll tell you. Two people against the world. Two people who are misunderstood by literally everybody but themselves. And that to me is. I mean, I cannot think of a more romantic scenario. Right? You've got John Doll. If you are a fan of the actor John Doll, like I am, please for the love of God, email me at dear moviesxactlyrightmedia.com I'm a huge John Dahl fan. He wasn't in a ton of films, but, like, the movies that he was in are fantastic. Speaking of Jimmy Stewart, he was in Rope, that's probably his most famous movie. He was the guy that wasn't Farley Granger. But he plays basically this kid, like a wayward kid that grows up that's obsessed with guns. Just, like, wants to shoot, shoot, shoot guns.

[Casey O'Brien]

He's gone crazy.

[Millie de Cherico]

He's absolutely gone crazy. It's like that Nirvana song in Bloom, right? So basically, he goes to a carnival and he meets like, you know, goes to the sharpshooter tent and it's this hot lady who was played by the actress Peggy Cummins. And he's like, I have to have her. I need to know her. Like, she loves guns just as much as me. And then they get together and it was like. Let me tell you right now, the actor John Doll, from all accounts, was a gay man, right? But him and Peggy Cummings, in this film, their chemistry is un fucking real. And what I've read, you know, a little bit about the production, I mean, basically, the director was basically like, all right, you guys act like you want to fuck each other all day and all night. And they, like, did the task. They basically were like, that's what this is. On screen in the 1950s, like, production code way, it's about as sexy as you can get in that way. And they're so good, and it's romantic. And they're lovers on the run because, of course, you know, they love guns. They gotta start robbing banks. And it's so wonderful. And like, again, you're thinking, oh, my God, a noir. How could it be romantic? It is. I'm telling you, it is. It's so, so romantic.

[Casey O'Brien]

Love it. Fabulous pick. I need to see it. I gotta add it to my queue.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

So I'm eliminating. I had some other things on my list. In the Mood for Love. We talked about that movie already. I don't want to discuss that, so I'm booting it from my list. But I really think the movie Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is a very romance from 2004, with Jim Carrey and Kate Winslet, directed by Michel Gondry, is a very romantic movie in the sense it all takes place in Jim Carrey's mind. So that is kind of a romantic notion, too, that things are happening within your own mind, but it's also sort of the dissection of what you liked about that person. And basically the whole. In this world, you can erase people from your memories. And Jim Carrey had a bad breakup with Kate Winslet, and he's erasing her from his memories. And the movie takes place in his brain, and he's like, I regret it. I regret this procedure. And erasing her.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

So he's running through his brain trying to save these memories, basically.

[Millie de Cherico]

Right.

[Casey O'Brien]

And I. I feel like there's a. This is. There's a lot of sadness because it's about the end of a relationship, but it is. There's a lot of longing and there's a lot of introspection about this person that you love. And, you know, it didn't work out necessarily in this movie, but I don't know. I think there's something very sweet about that and sad. And I just love that movie so much. And I like that romance is the. It's like a relationship is the center of. It's not like there's a plot, something else is happening. And then there's a romance in the movie. The romance is the structure of the film or a relationship is the structure of the film.

[Millie de Cherico]

Right.

[Casey O'Brien]

You know what I mean? So I love that movie.

[Millie de Cherico]

I mean, listen, there's something super romantic about somebody who against sort of like their better judgment is like, desperate to, like, remember this person. You know what I mean? So there's that. I think that's such a romantic concept. Right? But also it goes back to what I was saying earlier about these kind of like oddball romances. I mean, that's the thing about that movie that I love about it is that, know you've got like, these two people who are kind of like, good for nobody except for each other in that way. Like, Jim Carrey is this kind of like, depressed, like, you know, teetering on sort of like, I don't know, having like a. Maybe a mental break. And he finds like this kind of like. I mean, we, We. We've talked about this in the. In the. In the second episode about, you know, kind of the manic pixie, ish kind of dream girl trope. But she's also kind of like, quirky and maybe, like, you know, has her own stuff. But did they find each other and they have like this whirlwind romance and I know there's. It's such a romantic movie. I'm so glad you picked it.

[Casey O'Brien]

Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Your number one.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, my God. So my number one most romantic movie of all time. I actually re watched it before we recorded to make sure that it was still my number one. And it is. This is another classic film. And I. I gotta say, like, the movies that I picked, you know, are all basically old films. Like, they're made in the 40s and 50s. And I feel like that's just my brain. Like, I love classic romances. I mean, no, no disrespect to the eternal sunshines, but come on. Like, I. I got. You gotta pick a movie like this when you. When you're shooting your shot, right? So my number one, maybe the most romantic movie I've ever seen in my life, is a movie from 1946. It was directed by a couple of fellows who called themselves the Archers, but it was Michael Powell and Emmerich Pressburger. And the movie is called A Matter of Life and Death.

[Casey O'Brien]

This is like the one Powell and Pressburger movie I haven't seen.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, my God. Dude, you, like fucking scrap what I just said earlier. You gotta see this movie, okay? It is beautiful. It's this beautiful romantic fantasy film. It's about this pilot, this, like, British pilot, World War II, played by David Niven. And he's like. At the very beginning of the movie, the plane is fucking going down. And he's like, there's no fucking parachute. And he's just like, it's going be. And he's like, fuck. And he's like on the radio with, like, the radio operator. Be like, my plane's going down. Sorry, fellas. Loved you. You know, whatever. And, like, the. The radio operator is this woman who was played by Kim Hunter, the actress Kim Hunter, who was. You probably know her from A Streetcar Named Desire, amongst many other things. But. But she's this American radio operator who, like, talks him through the crash. Like, she's basically like, you know, I'm with you. And they fall in love in that moment. And so what happens is he's supposed to die in the crash, right? Turns out he didn't die. And they end up meeting randomly after this horrific event. They fall in love. But then it turns. The movie is fucking so brilliant. It basically is this. I would say, like, a scenario modeling of, like, what would happen if heaven was like, okay, we're expecting this guy because he died in an airplane crash over the water in World War II. But wait a minute. He actually survived. Well, now we gotta go get him. But now he's in love with this woman.

[Casey O'Brien]

Love this.

[Millie de Cherico]

So it's so lovely. It switches from black and white to color. And so it's essentially like a fantasy film about these angels from heaven needing to go get this guy because he technically should have died. He's on their books as a dead person who needs to be in heaven. But now it's complicated because he's in love and sort of the whole thing. And now he's on Earth, he's talking to these angels. It is so romantic. It's literally like. Hurts my heart to talk about it. That's how romantic it is.

[Casey O'Brien]

I love that.

[Millie de Cherico]

And beautiful shot. Beautifully. If you've ever seen an Archers film, if you've. Like a Powell Press Record movie. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Red Shoes. Like Black Narcissus. That kind of Technicolor Y. Oh.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, my God.

[Millie de Cherico]

It's the best. It is the best.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, I'm kind of embarrassed by my number one.

[Millie de Cherico]

Okay.

[Casey O'Brien]

But, you know, romance is embarrassing. Sure. And the movie I'm picking is Amelie from 2001.

[Millie de Cherico]

And why would you be embarrassed about that?

[Casey O'Brien]

Because it's. I. It's sort of a A basic answer, I feel like. But I just love Amelie so much. It's so tender and sweet. And it's from 2001. It's French. It's directed by Jean Pierre Jeanet, who you might have seen direct other movies like Delicatessen or City of Lost Children.

[Millie de Cherico]

That's correct.

[Casey O'Brien]

He's a very fantastical, cartoonish director. But Amelie is about this woman played by Audrey Tato, named Amelie. And it's sort of the goings on of her cute little life. She's trying to help out people in her neighborhood by setting some people up in the cafe that are lonely, get them together. She's sort of pulling pranks on mean guys to get even with them. And she is trying to find this guy who keeps taking his picture in photo booths. There's a lot of little mysteries sort of going on, and all the while, she's sort of trying to figure out what she wants from life.

[Millie de Cherico]

Right.

[Casey O'Brien]

And she sort of keeps circling this other guy, you know, and it's kind of long. There's, like, this other guy who works at a sex shop that they kind of keep almost connecting, and it's sort of scary and exciting, and they're just sort of circling each other, and you can just tell they're the same kind of people. Yeah. And you just are like, these two are supposed to be together. I don't quite even remember how we know that, but you just know it. And it's. There's a lot of, like, longing, but it's very funny and cute, and I just. It's such a romantic world that it lives in. It's very red, and I just feel all sorts of butterflies with that movie. And I love that movie so much. And that's my number one.

[Millie de Cherico]

Well, listen, I. Even though you said it was a basic bitch answer, I. I won't say it's not, but sometimes the basic bitch answer is the answer. Do you know what I'm saying? That's.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes, it is.

[Millie de Cherico]

It is. And this is a pure example of that. I mean, honestly, like. So we talked about this movie, by the way, when I saw what you did. And I had a lot to say about this because it was that kind of thing where it felt like this movie, like, set the table for, like, a lot of, like, kind of quirk burgery romantic crap that I hated in the 2000s. However, this movie is so lovely that I feel like it is, like, it should be held up as a really beautiful, romantic, cute, sweet film. And even though they tried a hundred different ways to, like, remake it in the worst ways, like this one, the. The OG is still the best. And honestly, like, it is so romantic. Like, it really is. Like, by the end, you're just sort of like, oh, my God, I'm, like, crying my. My brains out.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. I mean, and it has, I think, one of the best kisses in. In film history. Because a lot of times when, like, the characters of film, you're, like, rooting for them to get together, and then all of a sudden they're smashing their faces into each other and you're like, you know.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

But it's a very good kiss at the end, which is sometimes hard to film.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah. I don't blame you at all for being your number one.

[Casey O'Brien]

You a basic.

[Millie de Cherico]

And that's totally fine with me.

[Casey O'Brien]

So that is my nature.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

And I'm realizing that as this podcast goes on. Well, fabulous. I feel like we really did such a great job of getting into the nitty gritty of romantic movies. And we did. You know, I think at our. At our core, we're just kind of. We're both two mushes.

[Millie de Cherico]

We are. We are. And I hope that, like, if you've not seen any of those movies, especially the older ones that we mentioned, you should really seek them out. I mean, I think they're widely available. They're probably, at least on Amazon Prime. Definitely. A lot of them are on Criterion Collection. So. Yeah, check them out. I mean, they're just. That's so fun to be. To, you know, have, like, actually to have a holiday like Valentine's Day be an excuse to watch a bunch of romantic movies. I don't know.

[Casey O'Brien]

I think it's kind of Totally. Totally.

[Millie de Cherico]

All right, so we gotta move into this new section.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes.

[Millie de Cherico]

Because I have this game for you this week.

[Casey O'Brien]

That is our game section.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yes. This is. This is very, very on topic for our episode this week. But I love creating games to break your brain, and hopefully this will. Because like we said the last time we played a game, I said, I really. I mean, you got every one of them right.

[Casey O'Brien]

So I got every single one of them right. It was really embarrassing for you. And so, yeah, I'm. I'm excited to see what you got.

[Millie de Cherico]

All right, so this is a game. I don't have a title for the game. You can. You can come up with it if you want listeners or Casey. But these are. I'm going to present to you five films, and I'm gonna give you a synopsis of a film. Okay. And you're gonna have to name the film every Film in this list has the word love in it.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay. Okay, I'm scared now because I made fun of you for the previous game being easy. And then you're like, I'm gonna destroy you on this game. And so I'm. I am legitimately frightened.

[Millie de Cherico]

Well, here to. To narrow the field a little bit, because there's a lot of movies with love in them. These five films are movies that I love. So I love. So these are movies that I like. So, you know, you've done dear movies.

[Casey O'Brien]

I love you.

[Millie de Cherico]

That's right. So these are movies that if you know me and you know my sensibilities, you might get them. So, like, you know, think about it that way. So guess what? Love actually ain't on this fucking list. Okay?

[Casey O'Brien]

Get out of here.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah, so this is stuff that I would like. So maybe something a little, you know, I'm not saying, like, underground, but I'm saying, you know, a little off the beaten path. So check some of them. All right, so here we go. Number one. So the synopsis of this film is. This is a darkly comedic satire starring George C. Scott and Peter Sellers, in which a rogue US general triggers a nuclear crisis.

[Casey O'Brien]

Dr. Strangelove. Or how I Learned to Love the Atomic bomb.

[Millie de Cherico]

I think it's technically how I Learned to Stop worrying and love.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's what it is. Thank you.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yes. Ding, ding, ding. From 1964. There we go. That was a little easier.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. No, yeah. So a great film.

[Millie de Cherico]

A great film. And actually features, like, maybe one. Speaking of old actors, Sterling Hayden, who is one of my favorite. Yeah, classic film actors, is great in this film. It's probably his best film, wouldn't you say? Maybe.

[Casey O'Brien]

I have only. I only saw him in the Killing and Johnny Guitar. He's in that, right?

[Millie de Cherico]

And nine to five.

[Casey O'Brien]

Nine to five. I love George C. Scott so much. He's one of my favorite actors. I just rewatched Hardcore where he's.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yes. Turn it off.

[Casey O'Brien]

I love him so much.

[Millie de Cherico]

Speaking of hotties, I gotta tell you, George c. Scott in Dr. Strangelove with his, like, sleeves rolled up on the, like, white shirt. Oh, my goodness.

[Casey O'Brien]

Great. All right, next one.

[Millie de Cherico]

Okay. Second. So this is another film that we're doing for this quiz. It is this synopsis. This is a hypnotic romance directed by Jim Jarmusch about two centuries old vampire lovers who are reuniting in a decaying world.

[Casey O'Brien]

One of my faves, Only Lovers Left Alive. A great film.

[Millie de Cherico]

Very Good. Yes. From 2013.

[Casey O'Brien]

Of course, I've never been to Detroit, and that's where that movie is set.

[Millie de Cherico]

But God damn, I love that movie so much.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes.

[Millie de Cherico]

I mean, and I love it more now than I ever have, I gotta tell you.

[Casey O'Brien]

Would you say that's your favorite Jim Jarmusch movie?

[Millie de Cherico]

You know, it's up there. I mean, honestly, down by Law was such a huge, huge movie for me that it feels like it's always gonna be my number one. But, like, Only Lovers Left Alive is definitely his. It's like a masterpiece of his later work.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes, totally.

[Millie de Cherico]

And honestly, like I said, I don't. I think it's age, but, man, do I really love this movie now. Like, I love it, love it, love it.

[Casey O'Brien]

One of our great indie directors.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yes.

[Casey O'Brien]

Jim Jaramusch. Okay.

[Millie de Cherico]

Number three. Okay. I don't know. Let's see. Let's see what you. Where you fall on this one. Okay. This is a chilling horror tale about a brilliant but deranged surgeon, played by Peter Laurie, who becomes obsessively infatuated with an actress.

[Casey O'Brien]

Wow.

[Millie de Cherico]

Getting harder, baby.

[Casey O'Brien]

With an actress. Peter Lorre. So, you know, that's an old one. Yeah, I. I don't know.

[Millie de Cherico]

You can use Google, by the way. Did I mention I can use Google?

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay.

[Millie de Cherico]

I mean, if you're stumped, you can look at your notes if you want.

[Casey O'Brien]

Lori, open notes test. Yes. My. My favorite kind. Mad Love. Is that.

[Millie de Cherico]

It's correct.

[Casey O'Brien]

Wow.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah, that's.

[Casey O'Brien]

Damn. I've not seen this movie.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, man. Again, another, like, weird, like, Hollywood film. I mean, it was just. It's actually fantastic. It's really entertaining. The best part about it. That is 68 minutes.

[Casey O'Brien]

Love it, love it. Tight. Tight. I love the movie. M. Oh, yeah. With.

[Millie de Cherico]

How could you not.

[Casey O'Brien]

Peter Laurie.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah, yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Such a great movie.

[Millie de Cherico]

Such a good movie. But, yeah, I love it. If you can get a movie under an hour and 15. Holy beautiful.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's beautiful.

[Millie de Cherico]

I'll watch the.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay. Wow. All right, I got one wrong. My first wrong.

[Millie de Cherico]

You can. Well, you know, we'll see. We got two more left. These two.

[Casey O'Brien]

Maybe this. Maybe this segment could be called, like. It could be like a play on Candy Crush. Casey Crush. Crush. Casey.

[Millie de Cherico]

Let's call it Casey Crush. Number four. Almost done. Number four synopsis is this. This is a stylish, brooding neo noir film about a motorcycle gang drifting through a small Southern town. And it just happens to be the directorial debut of both Katherine Bigelow and Monty Montgomery and was the first screen credit for the actor Willem Dafoe.

[Casey O'Brien]

I can see his face. What is the name of that movie? I can see I. I know this movie.

[Millie de Cherico]

Use your phone call. Use your phone call.

[Casey O'Brien]

My phone call. My. My lifeline. I need my lifeline. What is the. It. I don't know what it is. I have to look it up. The loveless.

[Millie de Cherico]

That's right. 1981's the loveless.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay, there's one more.

[Millie de Cherico]

One more.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay, I gotta redeem.

[Millie de Cherico]

You gotta try to get over 500, right?

[Casey O'Brien]

I know.

[Millie de Cherico]

Okay, so, last one in our love movie quiz, or, AKA Candy or Casey Crush.

[Casey O'Brien]

Casey Crush.

[Millie de Cherico]

All right, there's. If you get this one, I'll be fucking amazed. But. So this is a melancholic drama from the director of the beloved cult hit Possession, all about a struggling actress, played by Rami Schneider, who becomes entangled in a turbulent love triangle with a photographer, played by Fabio Testi, and her possessive husband, played by Jacques Do A Trunk.

[Casey O'Brien]

I do not know this. The only other. The only other movie I know that the Possession director did was, like, on the Silver Globe or something like that, which has been on my Tick tock a lot for some reason. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not gonna look it up.

[Millie de Cherico]

Okay. This is the American title, the English title.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay.

[Millie de Cherico]

So, I mean, technically it's called something in French, Right. But it's called that Most important thing, love, 1975. Andre Zulowski, if that's the director you're thinking of, did Possession. Yeah, this is his, like. I would say probably his, like, second. I don't know, if you talk about him and he's like, pretty obscure director, I would say. But this is the other one that I think people bring up from time to time, only because everybody knows, like, you know, Ciles know who Rami Schneider and Fabio Testi is for sure. But anyway, it's. It's kind of nutty, very stylish. But, yeah, I had to add it at the end because I was like, yo, if he gets this, I will. I will write him a check for $10 million. But, you know, this is to make up for the softball quiz from last time. So there you go.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, thank you, Millie, for another fascinating quiz. Last week I killed it. This week it killed me. So thank you so much.

[Millie de Cherico]

Good effort, though.

[Casey O'Brien]

Good effort. Okay, moving on to our final segment.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Employee picks, AKA chicks picks. Not really, but that's the box that my mom put at the movie. The video rental place.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah. You're a suffragette mom.

[Casey O'Brien]

My suffragette mom? Yes. Sandra O'Brien. We love her. Okay. So, you know, I was thinking about love a lot, and love in movies And I think there's a. Like, there was a lot. When we were trying to think of the most romantic movies, I was trying to. I. A lot of ideas came to my mind, but they were. I was like, this isn't really romantic movie, but I, like, love the romance in it, if that makes sense. It does to you. So this is a movie that I've mentioned on this show before, but I believe I have. But it is. I wouldn't say it's a romance necessarily. In a way, it is, but I. There's really good romance in it. And that is a 1985 Japanese film called Tampopo.

[Millie de Cherico]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

And it's. It's more about the love affair with Japanese cuisine, but there's really sweet romances between a few different characters. It's about a woman who owns a ramen shop, and this truck driver stops in town and he's kind of a. Happens in her shop, but he's stopping at ramen spots all over the country because he's a truck driver, and he decides to help her kind of revitalize her ramen shop.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yes.

[Casey O'Brien]

And there is some romance between them, but it's all very like, will they, won't they? And there's also. There's a lot of different storylines in this, and there is just sort of a. More. There's like a gangster character who has a romance with a woman that's very sexy and kind of fleeting. You don't really know exactly what's going on with that story, but they kind of just swoop through sometimes and. But overall, it is such a sweet, beautiful, funny movie. You can watch it on HBO Max right now. Tampopo, which means dandelion. Cute in Japanese. And I love that movie so much.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah, that's a good pick, actually. That's kind of, you know, like, not a completely obvious choice, but, like, once you've said it makes sense. Okay, so here's what I'm gonna do. I. I am gonna this up so badly because I.

[Casey O'Brien]

Look out.

[Millie de Cherico]

This is technically not a movie. I gotta say.

[Casey O'Brien]

You're fucking it up.

[Millie de Cherico]

I know, and I can't help it. And the reason why I'm evoking these. These kind of exceptional rules for this episode is because I literally just finished it. And I gotta. I have to say, it's probably the most romantic thing I've seen in a very long time, maybe in years. And I'm not joking when I tell you I cried literally every single episode of this show.

[Casey O'Brien]

Whoa.

[Millie de Cherico]

There was not one episode where I didn't cry.

[Casey O'Brien]

Wow. Okay.

[Millie de Cherico]

So I. My. So my nephew, who is about to be 9, or maybe he's about to be 10. I think he's 9. He is really into anime, right? And I have never really gotten into anime before. I mean, obviously I like, know what it is. And I've seen like the studio Ghibli movies and that kind of stuff, but I've never seen like anime shows or anything like that. Like, I like. I know who like Naruto is, but I don't. I've never seen all of it. Right. So during the holidays I started watching this. It's on Netflix. It's this anime series that's called Kimei ni Todoke. I think I've said that right from me to you. It started out as a Japanese manga. It got made into a show. There's been three seasons of it. The first two seasons came out in like the late 2000s. So it's like the first, the very first, like one or two seasons were like late 2000s, early 2010s. But then they made a third season that came out within the past like six months.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay.

[Millie de Cherico]

And it is this unbelievably sweet and adorable story of this little. I wouldn't say she's a little girl. She's like a teenage girl. She. The joke is that she looks like the girl from the Ring. You know that movie the Ring, with the black hair. So she's at her school and she looks like this horror movie character and everybody thinks she's weird and they don't like her. But of course there's this one guy in her high school that is like the nice, popular guy, sees beyond her freakiness and they just like slow talk about a slow burn. Love. Holy fucking shit. Like, over the course of like the three seasons, they just like hang out more and more and fall for each other. And it's like, it's this whole. It is agonizing. The will they or won't they is so agonizing that I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. Like, I was like, they have to get together or I will die. I will literally drop dead. And it was like every episode was so sweet and endearing and like the girl, Sadako, that's the little girl character. And then the guy that she's in love with, his name is Kazahaya. Kazahaya is the model for every boyfriend. Like, he is this like tall, dark haired guy with the messy, you know, bed head. And he's so fucking nice. And like, he protects her from all these bullies and he's just like, he always tries to make her feel comfortable cause she's socially awkward because she was bullied in her school and so she doesn't know how to be around people and she has good intentions but she's awkward and he's always like, like there for her. Dude, I loved it so much. I, it is unbelievable how much I loved it. I actually bought the first book in the, in the series which I've never even read manga before. I'm like a middle aged woman. I'm like, oh, I guess I'm gonna read this manga. And it's like backwards, you know, I guess you have to read it from the back or something. Right? Is that right? Man, Good people.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. Yes, it's. I, I, I, I have read a few manga and it is a little challenging at first to get that down, but it is good.

[Millie de Cherico]

It is so wonderful. And I just, that is, like I said, it's not technically a movie, it's technically a series. It's an animated series on Netflix. I've not seen the live action. There's a live action on Netflix. I, I would say start with the animated one and you will die over how cute it is. I loved it so much.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay, well that, thank you for that wreck. It sounds great. I'll have to check it out.

[Millie de Cherico]

Yeah, please do.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh my God, Millie. We reached the end of another episode. Isn't that thrilling?

[Millie de Cherico]

It is thrilling. It's very, very, very thrilling. So, okay, yeah, listen, if you want to email us, we [e-mail] youm can obviously tell me if you like obscure classic actors. I'm always here for that all day, every day. But also, you know, if you need a recommendation for a film, like if you need help navigating a filmography from a director, if you got a film gripe that you need to be resolved, you can write us just any question you got. Just, we'll take it there.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's right. We want to offer our film advice at the end of shows. So please right in with, you know, seeking our advice. Whatever you need in the world of film, we can help you. We can guide you through these difficult times. Or you can write us. Or even better, you can leave us a voicemail as long as it's under 60 seconds and recorded in a quiet place. You can record a voicemail on your phone and then email it to Dear Movies at exactly right media.com Also follow.

[Millie de Cherico]

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[Casey O'Brien]

And our individual letterboxd handles are at Casey Leo, Bryan and at M. De Chericho. Check it out.

[Millie de Cherico]

That's right. Listen Casey, I loved doing this podcast about love with you. It was really, really fun and we'll see you all next time.

[Casey O'Brien]

Bye Bye.

[Millie de Cherico]

This has been an exactly right production hosted by me, he Millie de Chericho and produced by my Co host Casey O'Brien.

[Casey O'Brien]

This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfogel, our Associate producer is Christina Chamberlain, our guest booker is Patrick Cotner and our artwork is by Vanessa Lilac.

[Millie de Cherico]

Our incredible theme music is by the best band in the entire world, the Softies.

[Casey O'Brien]

Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgariff, Georgia Hardstark, Daniel Kramer and Millie de Chirico.

[Millie de Cherico]

We love you you Goodbye.

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