Millie & Casey Were on My Favorite Murder!

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Dear Movies, I Love You

Episode: Millie & Casey Were on My Favorite Murder!
Release Date: December 23, 2025
Hosts: Millie De Chirico & Casey O'Brien (with Karen Kilgariff & Georgia Hardstark of "My Favorite Murder")

Overview

This lively crossover episode marks the debut of "Dear Movies, I Love You" on the Exactly Right network. Millie De Chirico and Casey O'Brien chat with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark about the podcast's unique, heartfelt approach to movies. The conversation explores emotional connections to film, breaking down barriers in movie fandom, and, of course, plenty of laughs over movie rituals, recommendations, and weird theater stories.

Main theme:
Cinema as an emotional refuge and obsessive crush, not just an intellectual pursuit—a sincere, judgment-free celebration of all things movies for film lovers and new fans alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Podcast’s Vibe and Purpose

[04:09] – [07:44]

• Casey O’Brien: The show’s like “having a crush on movies”—deep affection and fun, blending highbrow and lowbrow films without snobbery.
  • “We want it to be accessible…talk about [movies] in a way that’s fun…an inviting, fun, cute podcast.” ([04:09])
• Millie De Chirico gets personal:
  • Developed an emotional relationship with movies, especially intensified during tough, isolating years like COVID.
  • Sees film as a constant comfort and “partner” in life.
  • “It's the one thing that has consistently stayed in my life that has been, like, my refuge from all the bullshit…Like, we’re in love with movies.” ([05:45])

Breaking Down Film Snobbery

[06:53] – [10:37]

• The assumption that there are “right” or “wrong” movies to like is rejected.
• “Our podcast wants to…hold up all types of films and make them…meaningful equally. It's more about how these movies make us feel rather than the intellectual value.” – Casey O'Brien ([07:05])
• The joy of finding “your people” who can share passionate (even opposing) takes.

Connecting Through Movies (and Arguing Respectfully)

[08:22] – [10:37]

• The show models respectful disagreement and curiosity, even if one host doesn’t love the other’s favorite.
  • “I would rather listen and be fascinated by your passion for something than just shitting on you for liking a movie I don't like.” – Millie De Chirico ([09:54])

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Memorable Movie Picks: Recent Watches

[10:47] – [15:19]

• Hosts share recent films they loved:
  • Millie: “Better Man” (the “Robbie Williams monkey movie”): unexpectedly moving and impressive.
  • Casey: “Truly, Madly, Deeply” – a 1990 ghost-romance with Alan Rickman and Juliet Stevenson, brought him to tears.
    • “It’s so beautiful and touching…I was like, this is, like, one of my new favorite movies of all time.” ([12:44])
  • Karen and Georgia both get excited (“That’s my favorite movie!”). Discussion highlights its realistic grief and emotional authenticity.

Movie Comforts & Judgment-Free Recommendations

[15:31] – [16:27]

• “I find a movie I like, and I watch it 40 times…There's no shame. That's the thing with our podcast. There's no shame.” – Casey ([15:42])
• “We are cringe, but we are free.” – Millie, echoed by Casey ([15:50])

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Gateway Movies for New Cinephiles

[16:15] – [22:23]

What movies help bridge the gap to “film world” for intimidated fans?

Millie’s Picks:

• American indie films from the '90s (Jim Jarmusch’s “Stranger Than Paradise," Alison Anders’ “Gas Food Lodging")
• “The Shining” (as “elevated” horror)
• Early Wes Anderson (esp. “Rushmore," “Royal Tenenbaums”)
  • “Here's an auteurist director building a cinema language...kind of sets you up for more.” ([18:40])

Casey’s Picks:

• Paul Thomas Anderson (“Boogie Nights” as accessible, “There Will Be Blood” as more artful)
• “Blue Velvet” by David Lynch as his most user-friendly film and an entry to weirder cinema.
  • “If you want to get into David Lynch, I would say start with Blue Velvet.” ([21:27])
• RIP David Lynch, discussed for making “weird” safe and accessible.

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Movie Rituals and Theaters: Food, Faux Pas, and Celebrity Sightings

[32:06] – [38:02]

• Popcorn is non-negotiable — even if it leads to stomachaches.
  • “I don't care if I'm on the toilet for, like, three days after this. I have to eat it.” – Millie ([32:57])
• Debating when to eat snacks—before or during? Most agree: shovel during the movie, not just trailers.
• Favorite concession sightings: Tom Morello (Rage Against The Machine), Seinfeld side characters, and a memorable Colin Farrell sighting (“We’re feral for Farrell!” – Casey [37:21]), with a vivid description of his movie star aura.

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Wild and Weird Theater Stories

[41:34] – [47:47]

• Millie’s bad theater experience:

  • Firework thrown during a packed “Furiosa” screening, leading to chaos and evacuation.
  • “This movie theater…there's always teenage antics. That’s the problem—the teenagers run the place, so nothing gets done…Now I stay away.” ([43:06])

• Casey’s “reserved seat” ordeal at the ArcLight: confrontation with an elderly couple sitting in his paid seats during “The Big Short”—awkward, but necessary.

• Karen’s horror story: stumbling in the dark, running into a wall during a dark film while searching for her seat.

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Video Store Nostalgia: Covers, Horror, and X-Rated Sections

[50:06] – [57:39]

• Guests recall the first VHS/DVD covers they remember:
  • Georgia: “Twins” ([50:14])
  • Karen: “A Fish Called Wanda”
• Millie: “Happy Birthday To Me” (horror with a shish kebab on the cover); also, Argento’s “Phenomena” (aka “Creepers”) with a gory bug theme ([52:54])
  • “All of my good memories from video stores come from the horror movie section. It's just what clicked in my brain…” ([52:54])
• Video stores as places of wonder and forbidden browsing, including sneaking peeks into X-rated curtained sections.
  • “So it's like, then all of a sudden it's like your friend's dad, like, disappears behind the curtain. And I'm like, yeah, that would never…happen these days.” – Millie ([56:54])

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Dream Guests & Closing Reflections

[58:09] – [61:39]

• Dream guests:
  • Keanu Reeves (“I say it every podcast!” – Millie [58:23])
  • Martin Scorsese—because of his deep movie love.
• The hosts reflect on their excitement to launch the show and gratitude to the My Favorite Murder team for support.
• Pride in the authentic, inviting, and “cringe-but-free” approach to film conversations.
• Plug: The Softies did the podcast’s theme song. “Their vibe was an inspiration to the podcast.” – Casey ([61:10])

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Notable Quotes

• “We just love movies. We're like, in love with movies. We…have crushes on movies.” – Millie De Chirico ([06:21])
• “There’s no shame. That’s the thing with our podcast.” – Casey O’Brien ([15:42])
• “I would rather listen and be fascinated by your passion for something than just shitting on you for liking a movie I don't like.” – Millie De Chirico ([09:54])
• “We're a pro Farrell podcast. We know this.” – Millie ([37:24])
• “We are cringe, but we are free.” – Millie and Casey ([15:50])
• “You don't need to suffer to make great art…it's better to be a happy person making art.” – Casey O’Brien, about David Lynch ([24:26])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:09] – Podcast pitch & emotional connection to film
• [10:47] – Recent watches: “Better Man,” “Truly, Madly, Deeply”
• [16:27] – Gateway movies for emerging cinephiles
• [22:23] – David Lynch, “Mulholland Drive,” and weird cinema
• [32:06] – Movie theater snack rituals and etiquette
• [36:00] – Celebrity sightings at the ArcLight
• [41:34] – Wildest movie theater memories
• [50:06] – Favorite VHS/DVD covers and video store nostalgia
• [58:09] – Dream guests (Keanu Reeves, Scorsese)
• [61:10] – Theme song shoutout (“The Softies”)

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Final Thoughts

“Dear Movies, I Love You” invites listeners into an earnest, accepting cinematic party—blending deep love for movies with irreverence and humor. Whether you’re a die-hard cinephile or just movie-curious, Millie and Casey’s unpretentious approach makes loving movies feel like falling in love for the first time: a little goofy, a little overwhelming, all heart.

New episodes drop every Tuesday, starting January 28th.

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Transcript

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[Georgia Hardstark]

Hello and welcome to my favorite murder. That is Georgia Hardstar and that is Karen Kilgariff.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And today we are so thrilled to be talking to two people you might already know. She is a film programmer and historian. He's a filmmaker.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And they just ended a critically acclaimed four year run on the podcast. I saw what you did.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And now they're back with a new show that premieres Tuesday, January 28th on the exactly right network.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's called Dear Movies, I love youe. Please welcome Millie de Chirico and Casey o'. Brien.

[Millie De Chirico]

Hi.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Guys. Could you tell we were reading off a teleprompter?

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, it felt really good though.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Pros were just pros out of this.

[Karen Kilgariff]

How would you guys synopsize what you're doing on your podcast? Or like, what the, you know, what's your elevator pitch of the podcast vibe?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, well, you know, it's, the name of the podcast is Dear Movies. I love you. So it is kind of, you know, we say it's a, you know, having a crush on movies. It's an infatuation with movies. It's a sincere celebration of film and film culture and we just want it to be accessible to people because, you know, Millie and I, we can get in the weeds about like art house bullshit, but we like, but we want to talk about it in a way that's like fun. And we also, we like high brown. We like really low brow too. And so we want it to be like an inviting, fun, cute podcast. Yeah. Millie, anything to add to that?

[Millie De Chirico]

Well, you know, I think I'm going to get deep, perhaps a little deeper than Casey's just revealed. I personally, when I was. I'm kidding. You're not the himbo of the podcast, by the way. You're fine. You're not a film himbo. As, as, as I've heard in the past, I really, I think over the past couple years, especially during COVID especially during, I don't know, just like living in life and bad news and, you know, things happening in the world, I started really thinking about like my relationship to movies because, you know, as a person who like lives al, you know, a lot of and has worked in movies for over 20 years, I started thinking about, like what? Like, do I have an emotional relationship with movies? Like, of course they're entertaining, of course it's my job. Of course it's an intellectual pursuit, I guess. But what's like my emotional relationship to it? Like, do they do Things for me, are they my comfort? Are they my partner, for crying out loud? I mean, honestly. And I started thinking about it in that way where I was like, I don't know. Like, I think they are. Like, it's the one thing that has consistently stayed in my life that has been, like, my refuge from all the bullshit. Right. And there's some kind of. I don't know, I have this, like, you know, deep feeling of appreciation for, like, what the art form, I guess, if you want to call it that, has done for my life in that emotional kind of way. And so that's why I think when we were like, how. What's the vibe? You know, I was like, I don't know. We just love movies. We're, like, in love with movies. We have. We. We, like, have crushes on movies. And Casey, like, immediately was like, of course. Like, I get it. You know, and so, I don't know, I think that that's sort of. I think what the podcast is also about is it's about sort of like being in love with this wacky world that we're in and, you know, just sort of, I don't know, like, being very earnest and sincere about it.

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[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, and I think there's a lot of, like, judgment about, like, what movies you like or, like, what movies affect you the most. Like, it's very easy to be like, oh, that's a. You know, people will throw. You know, I said this even earlier where I was like, this is a stupid movie, like, I can't hardly wait or 10 things I hate about you, but those make me feel a certain way, and that is meaningful to me. And so I think our movie one, our podcast, wants to kind of, you know. Right. Hold up all types of films and make them, you know, celebrate them equally, and they. They're meaningful equally. It's. It's more about, like, how these movies make us feel rather than, you know, the. The intellectual value that something has, if that makes sense.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And what I love about that, too, is it. I mean, it kind of reminds me of our podcast. And even though true crime has nothing to do with what you guys are doing, but it. Finding your people, too, who can talk about this one movie for hours, even if they don't like it with you. And, you know. Yeah. Like, the two of you found each other, and then your audience and your listeners are going to be like, absolutely or, no, you're wrong, but you're still connecting in a way that's hard to do these days. It feels like everyone's just kind of having these, you know, superficial connections. But if you have this interest that you're so passionate about, you can really connect with people.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah, I feel like. And listeners, when you listen to episode one, you'll get that kind of. That party. It's like, movie party vibe, where the first time I listened to it, just your guys chitchat, where each topic and each movie and each thing that came up, it was like, all in, like, super interest, super passion, but then also just, like, these different takes where it's like, you know, waxing poetic about the Magic Mike trilogy, where it's like, I never thought about that before. That's really true. Like, just that kind of thing where I was like, you can be deep and analytical kind of about anything you want as long as you like it enough. And it felt like that, you know.

[Casey O'Brien]

Thank you.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. There's also, like, an episode that we have coming up that I really love because we're talking about a movie that Casey is extremely passionate about and is like, a movie, like, basically that his. The movie that radicalized him, that made him a film person, quote, unquote. And it was. We. And it was a movie that I had a very different opinion on. And we talk all that out in a way that I think is really cool. Like, just because there was something that he loves and connects with that didn't really get me in the same way. I was so, like, interested in just hearing him talk about it and hearing his relationship with it and sort of, like, what he liked about it. And I don't know. I mean, I feel like that is something that. That our podcast is doing and will do really well, is just having that mutual respect for each other's taste. I mean, honestly, like. And that's something that I think is a thing that makes film people so annoying or intimidating, is that you have, like. Like I said, like, the wrong taste, you have bad taste, you don't like the right things. And I don't really see it that way ever. I don't ever see people having that. Like, I don't. I would rather listen and be fascinated by your passion for something than just shitting on you for liking a movie. I don't like. Do you know what I mean?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah, I love that.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

So you guys on your podcast usually start by telling each other the movies that you've watched recently. What movies have you watched recently?

[Casey O'Brien]

Millie, you go first.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, God, I gotta pull out my phone.

[Casey O'Brien]

Letterboxd.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Uh. Oh, she's gonna go. She has to be legit.

[Millie De Chirico]

I got to be legit.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Did you watch a movie today?

[Millie De Chirico]

I watched a movie last night in the past. So it's been the past 24 hours. I watched this movie called Better Man. Have you heard of this movie?

[Casey O'Brien]

Is this the Robbie Williams movie?

[Millie De Chirico]

It is the Robbie Williams Animatronic where.

[Karen Kilgariff]

He'S a monkey, yes.

[Millie De Chirico]

Actually, it's not animatronic. It's, like, weird cgi, right?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

That movie, to me, was so much better than it had any right to be. I don't know why I was, like, expecting to go at it, being like, this is gonna be one of the most genuinely bizarre, like, weird, outsider art things of our generation. And I was like, it's actually kind of good. Like, legit good.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Wow.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Good for Robbie.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, he was a superstar.

[Millie De Chirico]

Well, that's what I think is so fascinating about it, to be honest. Cause I'm like, okay, they let this movie happen, like, now, where it's like, here's a star who was essentially not as famous here in America as he was, you know, in Europe, who hasn't really been around for, like, 20 years, and he's a monkey. And, like, I'm like. And it's his life story. I was like, wow, I can't believe that they let that happen. I was actually really impressed that that happened. So anyway, wow.

[Casey O'Brien]

I feel like the whole narrative with Robbie Williams is like, nobody knows about him in America. And then, like, this movie came out, and it was like, this movie's bombing in America, and it's like, we don't know who he is. Why don't we go see this movie?

[Karen Kilgariff]

Right? You've never seen this monkey. We don't. We can't support this monkey. We don't know him.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Casey, what did you watch recently?

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay, so I watched this movie called. And I was really weeping during this movie. Truly, madly, deeply. Have you ever seen this movie?

[Millie De Chirico]

Which one's that?

[Karen Kilgariff]

Like, my favorite movie of all time.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, it is. I had never. I had, like, seen bits of it, but I watched it the other night, and it's so beautiful and touching. It came out in, like, 1990. It's with Alan Rickman. And you told me about it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah, Juliet Stevenson.

[Casey O'Brien]

Juliet Stevenson. And basically, the premise is, her boyfriend, Alan Rickman dies, is dead. This is you. This is not a spoiler. This happened. This is the beginning of the movie. But he comes back as a ghost. And it's. It's so romantic and sweet and silly. And I was like, this is, like, one of my new favorite movies. Of all time. I'm not even kidding. It was. It was amazing.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I'm really writing it down right now.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Well, also, because it's so heavy, like, they do. They don't try to clean anything up. It's not the American version of if a girl's boyfriend died that she lived with and obviously is her life partner. It is like there's a scene. I think it begins with a scene where she's at the therapist sobbing and trying to explain how isolated she feels because he's gone and she's walking around and all these living life and, you know, whatever. And she's ugly, crying to a degree. Where it is like. I was like, who is this woman?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes. She's incredible.

[Karen Kilgariff]

She's such a good actress.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's like showing grief the way it really is, which is so hard for anyone to, like, do if you don't understand.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And the end total, no spoiler. But also, be careful because of me, because I don't. I don't keep my promises. But essentially, the reveal. Should I not say the reveal?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Don't say the reveal. I don't wanna know.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Okay, okay. Cause that reveal, when I first watched it, and same Casey, where it was me, my friend Dave Messmer, who we worked at the Gap together, and his friend, and she's the one that was like, we have to watch this movie. And all three of us were sobbing at the end, like, together, sobbing. It was crazy. And it was just one of those weird, like, it's just the perfect 90s. Like real life. I don't know.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, I mean, I was. I immediately. When the movie started, and it's like happy tears. I feel like I felt good at the end of it. It's not like a downer. It's a happy.

[Georgia Hardstark]

No, I think, okay.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It's beautiful.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's really beautiful. And I really. I truly, madly, deeply loved it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And who's the director? Do you remember? Offhand?

[Millie De Chirico]

Yes.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's Anthony Mangella who did the English Patient and the talented Mr. Ripley. It was his first movie.

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[Georgia Hardstark]

It's his first movie.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. Really?

[Georgia Hardstark]

I'm saying, how did I miss that? As if I haven't missed every single fucking movie that has come out in the past.

[Karen Kilgariff]

You're not movie people. Which I think is like, this would be a perfect podcast for you because it's, I think Casey and Millie kind of pulling people into the movie world. Like, it's going to be okay. We're with you.

[Casey O'Brien]

Come in.

[Georgia Hardstark]

You know what? I am. I'm a. I find a Movie I like and I watch it 40 times, and there's no other. And I don't watch any other movies. It's not like I love this director. I'm going to watch all their movies. I don't do that.

[Casey O'Brien]

I do that, too. I do that, too. Yeah, there's no shame. That's the thing with our podcast. There's no shame.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

We are cringe, but we are free. We say that all the time.

[Casey O'Brien]

We are cringe, but we're free. Exactly.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Can you guys give individually or together as a team, like, three movies that you would recommend to people who love movies but are intimidated by coming into, like, a cinema graphic world? Is that the right word? Sure. Like, coming into the world. World of film people, that's not so.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Deep and, like, you have to understand the meaning of. But it'll get you to those other movies that then you. Then you can appreciate because you. You know what I mean?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Like, what do they call them? Like, gateway.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Gateway.

[Millie De Chirico]

Gateway drugs.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess I have a question. How do you feel about subtitles? Because for some people, that's a big hurdle.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I. I don't mind it.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I think the gateway part, though, for, like, the masses, there shouldn't be. So maybe one out of three?

[Casey O'Brien]

One out of three. Okay.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Whatever is needed.

[Casey O'Brien]

Millie, do you have. Did any come to mind immediately?

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, I'm thinking on it. Well, this might be actually interesting exercise because Casey and I are. I'm a little older than Casey, and I feel like this might be, like, this is gonna be showing our generational roots, perhaps. You know what I'm saying? Because I think about, like, what kind of got me into Cinephilia, if you will. Like, what was the movie that was the. The bridge between, like, I don't know, Sixteen Candles and, I don't know, Three Colors Red or something. I'm trying to think of something. I mean, I think for me, she's.

[Casey O'Brien]

Speaking in kind of film gibberish.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Language right now. So.

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[Casey O'Brien]

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[Millie De Chirico]

Well, I mean, to me, I think when I first kind of was, like, in high school and in college and I was kind of making that jump. I mean, honestly, I think it was a lot of the American independent stuff from the 90s. So, like, I'm thinking of things like, you know, Jim Jarmish, Stranger Than paradise or down by Law or, you know, Alison Anders, Gas, Food, Lodging, you know, this kind of stuff that was sort of like, in the kind of indie cinema. Stuff in the 90s, that's what I was kind of like. Oh yeah, there was like, you know, SNL comedies and then there's this. Right. And so that's kind of how I started kind of getting into like more of a kind of cinema world. Right. But then I also think too stuff like Stanley Kubrick's like the Shining, that those types of movies that are kind of like horror but then kind of what they would call maybe like elevated horror now, which drives me crazy. But you know, in a way it's like here's a horror movie which is kind of traditionally a genre that brings in a lot of like young people. It's kind of broad audience stuff. But then like it's a little bit more stylish and is a little bit more open ended in terms of themes. So maybe something like that, like the Shining. And then for a third, I mean, I gotta say, I mean again this is sort of like maybe for a little people who are a little bit younger but like those like early Wes Anderson movies like Bob Rocket or like, I mean Rushmore was kind of my favorite out of that stuff. But you know, even like World Tenements, I feel like that kind of stuff would take. Would basically set you up in terms of. Okay, so here's like an auteurist director who has. Who's building a sort of cinema language for his work, you know what I mean? And that's kind of, I don't know, maybe if you're kind of getting into that kind of stuff that would be.

[Casey O'Brien]

Like a good entry point.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That's perfect. Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Actually my niece Sophie texted me because she went and saw the Shining at the theater and she was like, hey, I just saw the Shining. You've seen that, right? And I was just like this is so weird. Of course. I was like, yes, of course. She's like, it was so was crazy. And I'm like, yeah, I. It was like the cutest kind of discovery moment that she wanted. She brought to me cuz she was like, I feel like you're the kind of person that would appreciate that movie. And I'm like, yes, I do.

[Millie De Chirico]

I really do.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, I would say I think that's right on. I think there are some like gateway directors that are like kind of like how, you know, cinephile sort of like found their way into movies for my age. You know, Millie mentioned I'm very young that so like I would say Paul Thomas Anderson is a really good director to kind of follow his career because he did like Boogie Nights which is art house film, I would say, but also, like, a major studio film. But then, you know, he did, like, There Will Be Blood a few years later, which is a lot, I would say, darker and weirder. And that was, like, nominated for, like, Best Picture and stuff. But it kind of is a good way to, like, get into more of the, like, highbrow, you know, cinephile movies and then so that's like, more on the easier end. And I would say, like, you know, we're recording this today. One of the great film directors died. Yeah, David lynch, my favorite director. And he's like a great. That he's kind of. You have to. If you want to get into film, you have to see some of his movies. And I would say the entry point for that, for him would be Blue Velvet. I would say. Yeah, it's a weird. It feels weird. It feels like this is like no other movie I've ever seen. But the plot makes sense and you can understand why things are happening where that cannot be said for most of his other movies. So that's like a good. If you want to get into David Lynch, I would say start with Blue.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Velvet, you know, I think that's so true. That's why Mulholland Drive is one of my favorite movies of all time, is because the first time I watched it, I was like, there's no plot. I don't get it.

[Casey O'Brien]

Totally.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Like, there's, you know, it's just a movie. There's no plot. And then I watched it again, and I was like, holy fuck. Like, the way it blew my mind that when I could finally follow the plot, glue it so hard that nothing has ever lived up to that again.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, I totally agree. Because we. We did that movie for, like, one of the last episodes of I Saw what yout Did. And I had seen it, like, maybe twice in the past. Once when it came out, which I was totally with you, Georgia, like, was like, I don't know, what's going on. Whatever. Yeah, it's a vibe, I guess.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's a vibe, yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

But I don't know anything. And then the second time I watched it, I was, you know, like, maybe sort of getting into it a little bit more. But then when we rewatched it for the episode, I had this, like, revelation, and I was like, I know everything about this movie, and I want it. Like I told Danielle, I was like, we're gonna have to really watch the clock because I could talk about this movie for, like, four or five hours. I have so much to say.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's like everything clicks together all of a sudden. And I love it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

When I saw that movie, my friend Danny and I hated it so much that like five days later at a barbecue together and a guy we did not know happened to nearby us say that he liked that movie and we harangued him until he left the party because we were like, what are you talking about? Which is of course our very 90s personality. Which was lauded back then when you were just like overtly hostile for no reason to every single person. But it was this thing of like, I don't even know what you're talking about, but it's like, of course that's what David lynch is trying to get you to do. He's like, do you like this or do you absolutely hate it? Okay, here's a little more. Like, I just think that part of it is making people who maybe wouldn't even think to do it suddenly talk about movies, know what they like about movies, like know that their opinion counts about movies. It's cool.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, totally.

[Karen Kilgariff]

We rip to a great one.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, yeah, it's.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It spums me out. Not as a huge movie person, but just like having a weirdo in the world is like really comforting, you know, like Paul Rubens kind of a thing where it's like, yeah, it's comforting to know there are people out there doing whatever the fuck they want to do.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, I think David lynch is special as an artist outside of like the movies he made because his whole thing was like, you do not need to suffer to make great art. That was like his big message. And I think that a lot of people feel like when you make art or any sort of like project, you're like, you need to die for this. You need to starve yourself, you know. And I feel like David lynch was very much like, no, you need to be like, it's better to be a happy person making art. And you can still make art about dark things. And God knows he did, but it's like, you still need to like take care of yourself. And I think that's a good message.

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[Karen Kilgariff]

Millie did you say what your movie most recent was?

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, Better man.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Oh, so sorry. I got so excited about Truly, Madly, Deeply, because that's like. It's literally like, I made that movie. Nobody knows that mov ever. And, like, I'm always telling people, you gotta watch it.

[Casey O'Brien]

I was shocked. I looked on letterboxd, and, like, no one I follow has watched it. And I was surprised because I was like this. It's just. It's an incredible film.

[Millie De Chirico]

You, Casey, you have, like, in the past have done this very similar thing where you have pulled out, like, this unknown rom com and have become, like, its number one fan. I think that's lovely about.

[Casey O'Brien]

Wow.

[Millie De Chirico]

I'm like, oh, this is, like, fucking weird rom com that no one's seen in, like, 30 years. Casey. Five stars on Letterboxd now. Nobody else I know has seen it, and then I'm compelled to go watch it.

[Casey O'Brien]

So I'm a lover, I'm a feeler, and I love digging up these. These rom coms. No one's watching.

[Millie De Chirico]

I love it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Casey, are you so excited to finally get some attention in this podcasting world.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Since you're kind of no longer a producer?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

Even behind the scenes. Oh, my God.

[Casey O'Brien]

Finally. Yes. I get to emerge from behind the.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I don't know, the sweet spot.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. No, I mean, yeah, I'm thrilled. I mean, I. It was such an honor that Millie, you know, reached her hand down into the gutter and pulled me out of it and allowed me. Yeah. I think Pennywise. Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

How did you guys, like, come to that idea that you, like, this is a movie podcast? Like, what was the thinking behind all of that?

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, like, I saw what you did was ending, and Millie wanted to do an another show, and I was kind of like. Well, I was like. Like, please let me produce it. So that was sort of the impetus, just, you know, Millie making a new movie show.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, we joked about this. We joke about this in the pilot episode, actually. I don't know if I should say it, but that I was like, basically like Bradley Cooper and a star is born. And I, like, found Casey, the Lady Gaga character, like, doing a little burlesque in a shitty bar. And I was like, come in my limo. I'm gonna make a star movie. No, I was like, here's the thing about Casey. Like, I have heard him on other podcasts before, and he's so charismatic, so funny. Knows a lot about movies, like, has, like, you know, when you ha. When you hear people or you meet people that have cut, like, you know, you have like, similar opinions about things, and it's like, yes, they get, they would get me.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

Very crucial for me. I just have to say, by personality, I need to be understood. That is, like, my lot in life. And so I was like, oh, here's somebody who, I think we line on a lot of similar stuff and we're not like the types to like the same things. That's what I'm saying. Which I love. I love that we don't like the same things necessarily, but our reasons for liking and hating things are the same, if that makes sense.

[Georgia Hardstark]

You respect that the other person's wrong, essentially.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

Or like, the reason why you don't like something is the reason why I wouldn't like something.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Right.

[Millie De Chirico]

You know, even though those two things would probably are different, I guess.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Totally.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

But I would hear him on these other podcasts and yeah, I mean, it was just like, well, I want to do a show with him. Does he want to do a show with me?

[Karen Kilgariff]

Is the eternal question.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Totally.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. I mean, it was just so funny. Millie, I feel like up until recently, you're, like, just checking in. You want to do this show with me, right? And no, I mean, I, I feel like Millie and I always, like, I, I, we always connected really well and I wanted to keep working with her if she wanted to keep making podcasts. So that was sort of the, like, the beginning of the show.

[Karen Kilgariff]

We want to get a sense of, through the move. We're just trying to do the movie thing along with you. We want to get a sense of who you are as people. What do you get when you go to the movie theater? What is your snack combination?

[Casey O'Brien]

This is a great question. And actually I feel like a lot of our show is, like, about the, like, like, movie watching ritual too. Like what we do when we watch movies. I always get popcorn and I always try to get a cherry Coke. Those are kind of my go to. It's hard for me to incorporate candy into it because I. If I need the. I need the pop, and then I need. But the candy in the pop is just too much sweetness. So I don't know. That's the I. The popcorn and cherry Coke is my go to.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That's lovely.

[Karen Kilgariff]

That's nice.

[Millie De Chirico]

The popcorn thing is absolute. Like, I. Movie theater popcorn always gives me a stomachache. But I don't care.

[Casey O'Brien]

Me too.

[Millie De Chirico]

That's like, the problem. I was just like, I don't care if I'm on the toilet for like, three days after this. I have to go I have to eat it. Like I don't know what it is.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

And then I'm with you, Casey. Like what I started. I was always, for a very long time, the Peanut M&Ms. On top of the popcorn.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yes, 100%.

[Millie De Chirico]

Which I used to call like trail mix. It's like, it's like trail mix. This is healthy, right? But then lately I've been. Because yeah. I don't wanna get the soda if you're getting candy. So I switch. And now it's either that I get the popcorn in a Coke icy.

[Casey O'Brien]

Ooh, ooh.

[Millie De Chirico]

You know, which is the only time I ever drink full flavored Coke. I usually do not drink. I usually do like diet or Coke zero or.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

You know, but in an icee. It's the most delicious thing of all time.

[Millie De Chirico]

I have to.

[Karen Kilgariff]

So good.

[Millie De Chirico]

So it's either that and then I alternate with the M, the peanut M M's, but always popcorn.

[Georgia Hardstark]

So can I ask you guys a question? You guys are all moviegoers. I don't go to the theater. And I. And I've always wondered this. Are you supposed to finish your snacks before the movie starts? That always blew my mind where it's like you have to save it and you're supposed to eat it before. Right?

[Millie De Chirico]

I can't help myself sometimes.

[Karen Kilgariff]

You mean like in the 15 minutes of trailers and stuff?

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[Georgia Hardstark]

And then everyone stops eating at when the movie starts. So I feel self conscious chewing loudly when the.

[Casey O'Brien]

Wait. So you feel self conscious chewing when the movie has started? You think you need to scarf the food.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It seems like everyone else has. Art finishes their. I don't know if it was like a rule that I just didn't fucking know.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I don't. I've never finished my snacks before.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, not to say it's like, it's not like I haven't put a serious dent in, but to me part of the joy of like a big bucket of popcorn and watching a movie is like the zone out and just insane. Just like.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Just shoveling it into your face in the dark. That's the fun of it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay, that's good to know.

[Millie De Chirico]

I. A lot of times I do. I don't know if it's to a completion, but I. I'm like 75% there. Me too.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's exactly what I was gonna say. I'm 75% there. You know, I'm peeking at the. Right when the movie starts and then I can pick my spots when I.

[Millie De Chirico]

It's not out of respect though. It's out of just me being gross. And I'm like, I'm starving.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

And then sometimes I do a thing where I will, you know, go to that 75% and then save the 25, and then we'll dip in like an hour into the mill.

[Casey O'Brien]

Sure.

[Millie De Chirico]

Into the film. So I'll just, like, pick it back up again.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

It's like, I remember I had this, but yeah, I'm housing that shit. Like, I'm like, hell, yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Okay. It's good to know. Honestly, I'm like, they're worried.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah. Don't worry about those other people. I have a follow up to that question, which is, who's the most famous person you've ever seen at the concession stand at the arc light here in Los Angeles?

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, shit. Oh, man.

[Millie De Chirico]

Danielle and I saw somebody that was on Seinfeld not as a main character, but some recurring. And now I can't remember who it was. Was it like a Patrick Warburton or something like that?

[Karen Kilgariff]

Oh, yeah. But it was definitely the guy with the white hair.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, it was definitely some beloved side character from Seinfeld we saw at the. At the arclight.

[Casey O'Brien]

The arclight was a good place to spot not celebrities I feel like, or like, known people. I don't know why this guy popped into my head, but I was seeing Nope. At the arc Light. I think it was nope. Or it was us. One of the Jordan Peele movies. And Tom Morello was getting popcorn of rage against the machine. Guitarist was good. Yeah, popcorn.

[Karen Kilgariff]

That is a good one.

[Millie De Chirico]

I was always so jealous whenever I would hear the stories of Keanu Reeves going to the arc light. And I was like, like, when does he go and how come I'm not there at the same time?

[Georgia Hardstark]

I saw him at the Beverly Center. You got to go to the mall, too.

[Casey O'Brien]

I know Beverly Center.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I mean, the only reason I wrote that question in was because I saw Colin Farrell at the Arc like, concession sand. So I reverse engineered that entire thing simply to be able to tell that story again.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, man. We're feral for feral. You know we are.

[Millie De Chirico]

We're a pro Feral podcast. We know this.

[Karen Kilgariff]

How could you be anti? I challenge you, But I swear to God, I felt him coming from, like, 500 paces. I was just like, what's this? There's electricity in the air down here in the lower concession area. And then I looked over there he was. Glasses, headband, weird workout clothes. He absolutely was like. The aura was like 20ft in front of him. He knew it. We all knew it. It was amazing.

[Millie De Chirico]

It's like an age.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Gorgeous. Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Movie stars at the movies like, what more do you want?

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[Georgia Hardstark]

You guys do have a favorite movie theater moment. Now that we're talking about them. Besides finishing all the amazing food, what.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Radicalized you in the movie theater?

[Casey O'Brien]

Millie had a kind of a crazy one recently. This isn't a good memory, but this is something bad that happened where someone.

[Millie De Chirico]

Was doing a. Yeah, a firecracker. During Furiosa.

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[Casey O'Brien]

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[Millie De Chirico]

It was insane. Like, did you do it? Oh, no. I wish. No, it was. It was an hour into Furiosa.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Oh, someone.

[Millie De Chirico]

All I know is that it was packed. It was like the Thursday that it came out, so it was like, like no empty seat. And then all of a sudden you would see. You saw this, like, fireball sail through the air.

[Casey O'Brien]

Jesus.

[Millie De Chirico]

Landed in like, the first, like, five rows of seats. And then everybody just jumped up. Yeah. And every, like the whole theater. It was like we were in this, like, frozen moment of. We were like waiting for an explosion or something. It was like, really hard. So everybody was, like, stood up and, like, kind of moving towards the emergency exits, but nobody was. We were kind of like frozen, waiting to see, like, what would happen with the fire. Like, either it was gonna just fizzle out, explode, somebody was gonna, like, get burned. We were just waiting for something to happen. And then by the time anything was supposed to happen, the fire alarm got pulled and every. They were like, clearing people out, so we had to leave anyway.

[Georgia Hardstark]

You can't do that. These fucking. That's an 80s trick. Not a fucking.

[Millie De Chirico]

And this movie theater. I'm gonna call this movie theater out in Atlanta, chronically. There's always teenage antics at this place. And if you. Every time. Because this is not the first time there's been some malarkey here. And like, this is the problem with the movies is that. That it's not just teenagers running, you know, scams, but it's like the teenagers run the place, so they're in cahoots. And so nothing gets done. There's no policy that gets enacted because of this. And so every time something has happened in this movie theater, including the fireworks saga, I have asked one of my friends that has kids. I was like, is it a school holiday? And they were like, yes. And I'm like, oh, yeah. So the messaging is that on a school holiday, the kids go to the movie theater and cause trouble. So now I stay away.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

They're like, that's their way to party.

[Georgia Hardstark]

This is what I think every movie's like. That's why I don't.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It's always firecrackers and somebody.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Especially that movie is. It's already so tense and so much going on.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. And it was. We had to get. We got a pass to come back to see the. The last hour of it, like an hour into it. It was so annoying. But I don't know. Casey, what about you?

[Casey O'Brien]

Do you have any memorable film or movie theater experience? Well, I mean, I kind of talked about this on one of our episodes, the. Where I had to, like, yell at those old people because they were in my seat. I. I've had a lot of issues with people sitting in my seat when it's a reserved seat. I don't know how you both feel about the reserved seats in the movie theaters, but I like it. I like having a reserve seat for myself. And my wife and I were in the theater. It was like a sold out theater. We were seeing the big short and we got there right when the movie started. And there were these. I go to the. The. This is at the Arc Light. And I go to like the guy working. I'm like, where are our seats? I can't even see. It's so dark. And he's like, they're up there. But I can see that there's a guy sitting in your seat, so you're going to have to ask him to move. And I'm like, oh, God. So basically it was this elderly couple and they're. Imagine there are four seats and they own. They own two of them, but they're sitting in the middle and we own two of them, but they're sitting in the middle, too. And so they have to.

[Georgia Hardstark]

No, you can't do that. I'm sorry. I'm angry.

[Casey O'Brien]

They have to scoot over one, you know, to make room for us. And so I go up, and I'm like, hi, sir. You are in my seat. And he's like, what? And I was like, and the movie has started. And I was like, you're. Oh, you're in my seat. I paid for these seats. And his wife is like, what's going on? And I'm like, oh, my God. I was like, please. And the movie has started. And I'm like, please, move over one seat. And then the people behind them are like, why are these people standing in the middle of the movie?

[Millie De Chirico]

And I was like.

[Casey O'Brien]

I was like, this is my ticket. Move over one. And finally, they did get the message and move over one. But that was a pretty harrowing experience.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Then you have to sit next to them.

[Casey O'Brien]

I have to sit next to them the whole time.

[Karen Kilgariff]

No, hold on a second, though. Just to Devil's advocate, okay. Why were you so late?

[Casey O'Brien]

That's what my mom said to me, too. She was like, well, it's your fault. You were late to the movie, so have some respect. I. You know, I. That's true. I can't deny I was wrong for being late to the movie.

[Karen Kilgariff]

But the last time we went to the movies, it was a very similar situation, except for I was the late one. And the movie theater for summer, it was in my hometown. It was so dark inside the movie theater that I couldn't find the rose. Walking, like, the letter row. Walking up and no idea what the number. So my cousin is up there somewhere. And I walk halfway down, and it's pitch black. Like, I can't see anything. And it's one of those ones where, you know, the newfangled movie theater seats where it's like a lazy boy recliner. So I'm walking really slow. Cause I don't want to slam my shins into a recliner thing. And I just am, like, guessing as to where my seat would be or where my cousin is. And so I'm bending over and trying to look into people's faces. Like, halfway down, walking really slow. And I just. I'm like, ann. And then this girl just goes, no.

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[Karen Kilgariff]

And then I just. So I keep going. And then I just end up very slowly running into the wall. Because it was one of those small theaters that doesn't have stairs on either side. It was just like, I just got to the end by touching my nose.

[Millie De Chirico]

To a carpeted wall.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That hurts me.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It was so embarrassing.

[Casey O'Brien]

That is just so scary, though. It's so it can be so dark in there, and there's, like, you know, there's like, dozens of people sitting quietly, and you're, like, trying to navigate them. I mean, it's like a horror movie. Yes.

[Georgia Hardstark]

And they can see you fine. Cause their eyes are adjusted.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And it was the beginning of a complete unknown where it's so dark.

[Millie De Chirico]

It's so dark.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And they're in a hospital while someone is dying of a degenerative disease. And you're like, so when I hit the wall, my cousin Sophie is the one that's there. And she goes, did you just run into the wall? And I'm like, thanks for your help. And she goes, I couldn't see you. I didn't know it was you until you started laughing.

[Millie De Chirico]

That's so funn. You said that. Because the. I saw that movie in the theater, too. And the opening, the first, like, five minutes of a complete unknown is so dark that I thought I was about to go to the projection booth and be like, could you, like, I don't know if the. You know, the movie's playing.

[Casey O'Brien]

Right.

[Millie De Chirico]

Or whatever. And I. Because I. There were people just like you who were, like, fumbling, stumbling, because it was so. I was like, why is this going to be so dark? I don't understand where we're at.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It was crazy.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, my gosh.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Wild. Should we let you guys host a little bit? What? You know, you guys host, like, it's your podcast. Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

You go.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, we have a few questions here lined up. Millie, do you. What. What should we start with here?

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, gosh, I don't know. You know, this is. We were talking about, you know, kind of what we're gonna do for this podcast, like, how we're gonna set it up, and what are these, like, questions that we want to ask our guests? Right. And one of the things that came to mind, I mean, again, like, podcast that we're doing is also about, like, movie culture. So, you know, we're talking about not just, like, movie theater going, but like, like, video stores and, you know, just stuff that if you're into movies or there's, like, these little rituals, these little, you know, little things that we do. And one of the questions that we like to ask is imagine that you're in a video store. And so if you're, you know, going through the video store, what's, like, the first VHS or DVD cover that comes to mind when you enter into the store?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Do you have yours?

[Karen Kilgariff]

I do.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, good, good.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's not going to be the same for sure.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It'd be amazing if it was, say.

[Georgia Hardstark]

At the same time. One, two, three twins.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Fish Called Wanda.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Oh, Fish Called Wanda.

[Casey O'Brien]

I can see both of those perfectly in my head. Head like.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, God, so much.

[Casey O'Brien]

Absolutely.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Why did that ha. Why is that twins? I. For some reason, that's. That's the. That's the one with.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Schwarzenegger, Danny DeVito. Yeah, yeah. Now, what's your relationship with that movie, Georgia? Do you have a relationship?

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yes. I was the right age and every other weekend at my dad's house. My single dad. And so we had a. We would have to rent a VCR from the. From the dsr, but we're gonna do that. And so we just fucking love that movie and watch the shit out of it. I'm sure it's so inappropriate for children now.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay, Very good. And Karen, what about A Fish Called Wanda? Do you have any relationship with that movie?

[Karen Kilgariff]

Well, the first thing I saw was Kevin Klein with his, like, balancing on something, which actually could be from a different movie. But I'm picturing him like, I feel like he had that space, this run of movies from like 84 to 95, where it was like it would be Kevin Klein on the spine of a VHS tape, like balancing on a chair or like having a mustache.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Both these movies are posing for the COVID Yeah. Like, they're not like, take clip from the movie. They're like the cast, the posing. I totally see it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

The visual. The visual part. But I think Kevin Klein, anything he was doing, I wanted to be there for it and my family would be too. Like a Fish Called made my parents laugh so hard. It was one of those kinds of that. And the Four Seasons, like, where you're like, what's going on that they like this so much. So then it made me pay more attention to like the actual comedy because I was interested in like, what, what. What was everyone doing that was eliciting that response? They weren't. Because they were not easy laughers. And they were like crying, laughing. So I think it was that piece of it where it's like kind of what the. Our family liked a little bit.

[Casey O'Brien]

It is funny because I feel like you. You mentioned that they like these posing for the poster. And I feel like that's such a lost art. Everything's Photoshopped now. Or it's like a. Still taken from the movie or something, but like very poorly too.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Like these weird. Like it looks like a Hallmark movie poster, but it's like a big budget movie.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

I don't know if they just can't be, you know, these stars can't. Don't want to get back together for a fun little shoot or something.

[Karen Kilgariff]

But.

[Casey O'Brien]

Right.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Get in front of that white psychon.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's right.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Sell this thing.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, very good. That's. I love that. Millie. You know what? I don't feel like you have answered that question. What, what, what's what's like the VHS cover that comes to your mind?

[Millie De Chirico]

Well, I mean, I was such a video store loser as a kid. I mean, I was there constantly and it was just like, you know. Well, first of all, my parents never let us go to the movie theater. They were too cheap to let us go to first run movies. So we were at the video store store constantly. And I. All of my good memories from video stores come from the horror movie section. It's just what clicked in my brain. And so I think for me, the first one that comes to mind is the COVID for a movie called Happy Birthday to Me. And it's a. Basically a shish kebab skewer going through the guy's mouth into the back of his head. Happy birthday to Me.

[Casey O'Brien]

I have never even heard of this movie.

[Millie De Chirico]

What? Oh my God.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It's a classic.

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[Karen Kilgariff]

You know it. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's. It was in the like solid horror section, which I wouldn't necessarily be that interested in, but you would kind of love the like. I was thinking that would always be next to like Christine and then like something else. So you'd be like, oh, I would watch a Stephen King.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh my God.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Happy Birthday to me. Or like the one where the, like, she will have her revenge. There was some really dark late 70s horror that would get mixed in there. So then it would just be like, well, we can't rent that. But what is it like, what's happening over there?

[Millie De Chirico]

There was another one that is in that era, I think, or around that era. The movie was. I think the movie is called Phenomena by Dario Argento, the Italian horror director, but it was called Creepers. And it was basically the. The COVID was like an illustration of Jennifer Connelly, the actress Jennifer Connelly, with half of her face being ripped off by like insects.

[Casey O'Brien]

There's a lot of bugs and Phenomena or AKA Creepers.

[Millie De Chirico]

And this is just on a shelf at my height, which at the time I was probably like, what, 3ft tall or something? I mean, I was like. And I'm going, yeah, this is like totally ruining my life. Like all of these little boxes, they were so evocative, so freaky and it Just, you know, those are the things that I kind of gravitated towards, I think.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah, definitely.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And you were in there, like, staring at these boxes like you, it was quiet, like the library. And you were desperate to pick something that would actually entertain you because that was like your one chance where it's like, go find something. And then it was like, what will I pick that will actually, actually make me happy?

[Georgia Hardstark]

And your sibling can't just. You have to, you guys have to agree on it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Georgia Hardstark]

That's the worst part.

[Casey O'Brien]

Fabulous. I love talking about VHS covers in the video store because I just think it's like a top. It's like when you sort of start learning, like movies become evocative to you at a very young age where you're like, what is that? I need to know what that is. And I think that's sort of.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Well, you know, my sister and I snuck into the X rated. We pushed the curtain aside and ran into the X rated video store section.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yes.

[Georgia Hardstark]

When no one was looking.

[Karen Kilgariff]

How was it?

[Georgia Hardstark]

I, I, we were, I read about this in our book. I was like, you have. I was so overwhelmed. And I'm like, you have to look at one and you have to pay attention. You have to like, focus on it or you're not going to see anything, you know, because I was so overwhelmed.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's really good. That's like a mature thought process going into this.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's like circle, circle. Just look at something. And so I looked at it. It was called Naked with Shoes On. And it blew my mind. She had like tennis, you know, like LA gear, tennis shoes and like scrunch socks and was like clearly naked everywhere else. Naked, shoes on. I was like, oh my God, that's a thing. Like, I just, I didn't realize adults were like, into it. Naked with shoes on.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

That is so such a weird concept now that I think about it, because, like, my local video store had that section as well curtained off. So you're predictably looking like in the family video store with like other people in your community.

[Casey O'Brien]

So you're seeing neighbors, you're seeing your pastor, you're seeing your account.

[Millie De Chirico]

So it's like, then all of a sudden it's like your friend's dad, like disappears behind the curtain. And I'm like, yeah, that would never, like, that is such a weird concept. I don't know if that would happen these days. Like, nobody wants to be in the X rated video section while people are running twins. Right. It's like a different vibe.

[Karen Kilgariff]

So it's like, pervs go in the back.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

They don't want that for themselves.

[Karen Kilgariff]

No, but they all had that, though.

[Millie De Chirico]

They did.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It was like. It was always like, beaded curtain, kind of like, here's the sexy area.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Did you ever rent anything when you.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Got older in the beaded sexy area?

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[Karen Kilgariff]

My God.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah, me neither.

[Casey O'Brien]

Just.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I just watched the Cook, the Thief, His Wife and Her Lover a bunch of times.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's a great, great art house movie. I love it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I don't know, though.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It's very sexy and dirty and there's a lot of, like, pate on naked bodies.

[Casey O'Brien]

I think Helen Mirren is, like, covered in rotting meat completely nude at some point in that film.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Sexy.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yes.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. Excellent.

[Georgia Hardstark]

But does she have shoes on?

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[Karen Kilgariff]

The idea that they just named it what the Thing is, is the funniest. I love it so much.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. And I tried to look it up, and I can't find it. Like, it might not exist in real life. It might just exist in my mind. I want to ask one last question. Do you guys have a dream guest and David Lynch RIP that would have been amazing. But do either of you have a dream guest?

[Millie De Chirico]

I mean, Keanu Reeves, everybody. I say that every part, every film we do, I always say, Keanu Reeves could happen.

[Casey O'Brien]

Could love for that to happen.

[Karen Kilgariff]

He loves movies.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Yeah. Turns out, always has.

[Casey O'Brien]

I. I feel like, like one that I thought would. I was like, if we had Martin Scorsese on our podcast. I mean, he's like, such a movie lover. That's why I feel like he would fit in well with our show, but so he would be a dream guest of mine.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Put those out into the universe.

[Millie De Chirico]

I'll appeal to him as a fellow Italian American, and I. I will start talking about, you know, canoli and other Italian things, and hopefully he'll come. So.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Karen Kilgariff]

I watched a documentary forced with my dad about the Automat in New York City that he was in and talked very passionately about the automat and what the Automat was like. It was hilarious.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. No, he would be awesome.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Let's do it.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Georgia Hardstark]

We'll get on that here at. Exactly right.

[Karen Kilgariff]

We're gonna do everything we can. All right. Do you guys have. Is there anything else you want to talk about or a plug or anything?

[Millie De Chirico]

No, we just really. We just really are so thankful for you both, for, you know, respecting the vision and helping us get it going. And we're just so happy to be back doing film podcasts with. Exactly. Right. I mean, I had Such a great experience the first time. And, like, when we were talking about ending, you know, I saw what you did. I was like, no, I want to stay. Don't pull me out of my dream. So I was, you know, like, really, really excited that we kind of kept it in the fam, you know, with Casey. And I don't know, I'm just really, really excited about what we can do, and we hope that everybody enjoys it and takes a listen.

[Georgia Hardstark]

So, yeah, I mean, it was an easy. Hell yes. When we heard the pitch, it was just like, fucking, absolutely. I can't wait to see what you guys do.

[Karen Kilgariff]

And, yeah, it's great.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's exciting.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It's great. I will definitely miss I saw what you did. Because as a film historian and a great writer, Millie, you just would kind of present these. The mov that you and Danielle would talk through it. It would be like, Danielle would just be kind of the. The person who's like, oh, I just saw this for the first time. And then you would be. You would present the kind of the other side of like, well, here are all the things I know about this, and it's so deeply interesting to me because you are so good at that and you have been doing it for so long, but listening to the two of you guys talk, and it's much more kind of like up to date conversational recommendations. What's going on? It's day in, day date. It's almost like a little. It's like your movie newsletter as opposed to your movie thesis, which both so valid, but you guys as a combination is just like, so charming and easy to listen to as a podcast. So great.

[Casey O'Brien]

Thank you. Oh, one thing I want to pitch is. Or a plug, I should say is the Softies. The band, the Softies. They do the theme song to our show and they're one of my favorite bands. And we're an inspiration to kind of the vibe of the podcast. So it was like, such a thrill to have them do the theme song. So if I'm plugging anything, they have a new album, the bed I made, you can listen to that. But they did the.

[Georgia Hardstark]

I love them. That's exciting.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Yeah, it's the perfect. Their theme song is so perfect and lovely.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, I know.

[Karen Kilgariff]

It's so cute, you guys. Congratulations. We love your show. We can't wait for everyone else to hear it.

[Georgia Hardstark]

It's so great. Dear Movies, I Love youe launches on January 28, and new episodes will air every Tuesday.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Also, don't forget to listen subs, subscribe and give that show a five star rating. It really deserves it. And also stay sexy and don't get murdered.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Bye. Goodbye Elvis. Do you want a cookie?

[Karen Kilgariff]

This has been an exactly right production.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Our senior producer is Alejandra Keck.

[Karen Kilgariff]

Our managing producer is Hannah Kyle Crichton.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Our editor is Aristotle Acevedo.

[Karen Kilgariff]

This episode was mixed by Liana Squillace.

[Georgia Hardstark]

Our researchers are Maren McLachan and Ali Elkin.

[Karen Kilgariff]

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[Karen Kilgariff]

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