Movie Date Stories!

Summary

Dear Movies, I Love You — "Movie Date Stories!"

April 28, 2026 • Hosted by Millie De Chirico & Casey O’Brien

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Episode Overview

This very special episode of "Dear Movies, I Love You" is a love letter to movie date stories. Rather than the usual film history and criticism deep dive, hosts Millie and Casey open the floor to listeners, sharing their hilarious, sweet, awkward, and sometimes outright disastrous cinema date experiences. Throughout, the hosts reflect on their own (often lukewarm) attitudes about movie dates, the peculiar anxieties and joys of sharing films with others, and what makes a movie theater such a potent stage for life's little (and big) human dramas.

The episode is packed with listener voicemails and emails—ranging from '90s teenage angst to adult awkwardness, pandemic-era poignancy to vintage VHS meet-cutes. Millie and Casey’s responses are alternately heartfelt, funny, and full of film nerd asides—plus plenty of riffs on AMC’s infamous McGuffins bar.

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Main Topics & Key Discussion Points

1. Millie's Perfect Day and Intro Chat

[01:43–10:09]

• Millie describes what would constitute her perfect day ("estate sales, plant shopping, and solo breakfast with The New Yorker")—lamenting having to come indoors for podcast recording.
• Casey jokes about "peacocking" by blasting indie rock from a college car versus Millie’s New Yorker bait for potential suitors.
• Discussion about the appeal and mystique of dining alone, with both hosts recalling moments when their solitary habits unintentionally attracted attention.

“I used to love baiting men with reading the New Yorker, and it didn’t do me any good… None of those men treated me well.”
—Millie, [06:13]

2. Movie Date Episode Concept

[10:10–12:42]

• Millie and Casey introduce the unique episode format: sharing listener-submitted movie date stories (good, bad, wild, boring, sexy, or even "child-conceived-in-theatre" wild).
• Neither host has pre-read the stories—reactions are raw and authentic.

3. "Film Diary": Recent Watches

[15:44–29:16]

• Casey gives quick shout-outs to a week of Frank Henenlotter films: Basket Case, Basket Case 2, and Brain Damage ("grimy B-movie purity").
• Millie saw Long Day’s Journey Into Night (“very slow, long one-take in 3D, but not at all like the Eugene O’Neill play”) and the remake of Faces of Death (“major AMC theater shenanigans”).
• Both hosts comically gripe about the frustrations of their local multiplex (“This movie theater is cursed, this is a cursed land, like [Stephen King’s] Pet Semetary”).

“He’s basically like… an old school exploitation director… I’m not trying to be anything but kind of a smut peddler, which I think is so fun.”
—Millie (on Frank Henenlotter), [17:10]

4. The Awkwardness of Movie Dates

[29:28–35:02]

• Casey recounts that his own first date with his now-wife was at a movie, but agrees with Millie that it's not always ideal: “You’re not talking… It’s kind of awkward.”
• Millie feels movies are “her job,” isn’t big on after-movie lobby discussions, and wishes friends would just relocate to a bar instead.
• Classic movie theater bars ("McGuffins") get roasted for their ambiance and naming.
• Millie: “Going on a date to a movie for me is not the best… Maybe if it’s a home screening.”

“Do I want you to come to my job?”
—Millie, [30:36]

5. Casey’s High School Movie Date Story

[35:28–39:53]

• Casey describes being unwittingly maneuvered into a "secret" one-on-one date through an invented group invitation—a classic, awkward “the friend list just dwindled” teen scenario. Millie confesses she could never be that bold in creating a pretext for a solo date.

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Listener Movie Date Stories & Hosts’ Reactions

(Timestamps note the approximate time the story is discussed or played)

1. Lori, Cleveland — Dream Warriors Deception

[42:27–46:37]

• Lori bailed on a date, claiming illness, to go see Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors with friends—only to run into her would-be date at the same screening.
• Millie dubs it the “Pina Colada Song of meet-cutes,” and wishes they’d fallen in love.

“No regrets. That shit was awesome.”
—Lori, [44:18]

2. Molly from Manchester, UK — Is This a Date?

[46:37–50:20]

• Molly went to see 12 Years a Slave thinking it was platonic; her now-husband thought it was a date. They held hands, but Molly didn’t realize until he texted her after.
• Both hosts marvel at boldness of choosing such a heavy first date film.

“I still did not clock that this was meant to be a date.”
—Molly (email, [47:35])

3. Ashley from Baltimore — Lord of the Rings Dating Gauntlet

[50:33–53:04]

• Saw LOTR: Return of the King three times at the same theater with three different guys; the third one was "the keeper" and became her husband.
• Casey: "That's a tough movie to see three times in the theater!"
• Millie: “If you want to go on a date with a straight guy, watch one of those movies… They’ll be popping boners at every moment from the Middle Earth…”

4. John — Double Spice World

[53:05–56:47]

• John was accidentally stood up for Spice World, watched it alone, ran into his date as he left, and ended up watching it again while pretending it was his first time.
• Both hosts totally relate; “I would have done the same damn thing.”

5. Hannah, Austin — Emotional Pandemic Movie Date

[57:35–63:19]

• In late 2020, Hannah’s fiancé set up a private theater rental for Empire Strikes Back. The emotional return to the movies after pandemic closures was overwhelming.

“When the theme music started playing and the title crawl started going across the screen, I felt like I was going to start crying.”
—Hannah, [58:19]

6. Nicole — Exorcist Aftershocks

[63:26–65:45]

• After seeing The Exorcist: Director’s Cut, Nicole had to drop her (tough guy) boyfriend home—who was scared, asking her to walk him to his room. The drive home alone was deeply unsettling.
• Both hosts share their own “creeped out post-movie” experiences.

7. Lindsay, Chicago — Group First Date at Juno

[67:43–69:48]

• Lindsay and her date each brought three friends; both have since realized they’re queer, as is Juno star Elliot Page.
• Millie: “The moral of that story is Michael Cera makes people gay and it’s infectious.”

8. Jolene — Silence of the Lambs Group Vibes

[73:02–77:09]

• First date was seeing Silence of the Lambs with a huge, excitable crowd—her all-time favorite movie experience, even if she doesn't remember the guy.
• Millie reminisces about euphoric group theater experiences, like seeing Purple Rain at Atlanta's Plaza.

9. Carol, North Carolina — Nosferatu Makeout Repeat

[77:20–81:56]

• Saw Nosferatu twice, making out with two different dates (one an old professor) in the final 30 minutes each time. Still hasn't seen the ending!
• Casey and Millie are delighted: “This is our first horny makeout story!”

10. "G" — VHS Meet Cute Gone Wrong

[83:32–88:44]

• 1988, Orlando: meet-cute in record store, rented Repo Man, made out in car; discovered both were covered in blood from partner’s bleeding gums. Moral: “I developed a deep appreciation for oral hygiene.”
• Millie: “Nasty. Nasty. Very goopy. Cronenberg would be delighted.”

Side Note:

G asks, “what exactly is a genre film?” Millie and Casey explain: typically horror, sci-fi, crime, action—anything outside standard drama/comedy; often associated with cult and exploitation cinema.

11. Jennifer — Iron Eagle 2 Date from Hell

[91:35–94:04]

• Waiter gets fired for flirting, takes Jennifer to a movie, and car gets broken into; she ends up riding home in a police car. No second date.

12. Jess — Rebellious, Existential Funny People Sneak-In

[95:23–99:32]

• Jess and “good kid” boyfriend sneak into Funny People expecting a raunchy time, but are instead treated to existential gloom. Both left anxious, neither found the risk worth it.
• Millie and Casey recall their own anti-climactic “risky” theater transitions into surprisingly boring adult movies.

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Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On real group invites morphing into solo dates:
  “List kept dwindling, and I’m like, huh, that’s interesting. Day of the movie… it’s just me and this girl. And I get the sense there was no group invite.”
  —Casey, [36:10]

• On choosing trauma-bond films:
  “Would you work up enough amorous feelings during 12 Years a Slave to be like, ‘oh, I just want to hold their hands?’”
  —Millie, [48:16]

• On the importance of oral hygiene after a gingivitis makeout:
  "There's a photo of me and my three death punk pre-goth best friends brushing our teeth together after my birthday party."
  —G (email), [86:39]

• Movie theater gripes:
  “This movie theater is cursed… It was built on holy land.”
  —Millie, [27:09–28:34]

• On lobby debriefs:
  "I don’t want to be forced to process my emotions immediately after something. …Can I at least use the bathroom? That at least gives me a couple minutes."
  —Millie, [32:22]

• On the thrill of a good theater audience:
  "It was like the entire movie had an orgasm together. It was awesome."
  —Millie (on Purple Rain), [76:29]

• Hosts repeatedly riffing on the AMC "McGuffins" bar:
  “Let’s go to McGuffins and hold hands and let’s shove our tongues down each other’s throats at a giant picture of Chris Pratt as an Avenger.”
  —Millie, [82:27]

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Thematic Threads

• “Is a movie a good first date?”
  Consistently, both hosts lean no, preferring food or drinks for true connection, though they acknowledge movies hold intense emotional potential for “post-processing” and sweet awkwardness.

• The theater as a stage:
  Listeners' experiences show that movie theaters become the scene for rites of passage, heartbreak, romance, embarrassment, “horniness,” camaraderie, and lifelong memories.

• Millie and Casey’s signature tone:
  Casual, profane, nerdily encyclopedic, and inclusive—never too cool to be moved by a genuinely special audience experience.

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Notable Timestamps

• [01:43] — Show proper starts, perfect day riff
• [15:44] — Film diary segment: recent watches
• [29:28] — Movie date concept and hosts’ takes
• [35:28] — Casey’s secret movie date story
• [42:27] — Listener stories begin
• [63:26] — Horror movie date jitters: The Exorcist
• [77:20] — Nosferatu Makeout story
• [91:35] — Iron Eagle 2 disaster date
• [95:23] — Teen sneaks into Funny People

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Closing & Next Week

• Millie and Casey thank listeners for their submissions, noting they couldn’t get to every story but heard them all.
• Next week’s episode: Tank Girl (1995), newly out on Blu-ray—an anticipated “shame list” watch for Millie.

“See you at McGuffins.”
—Both, [103:30]

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Final Takeaway

This episode stands as a celebration of the chaos and magic of sharing movies with other people—proving theaters are still, above all, a place for unforgettable, awkward, heartwarming, and sometimes bloody memories.

Transcript

[Millie De Chirico]

This is exactly right.

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[Millie De Chirico]

Visit your nearby Lowe's. Hey, Casey.

[Casey O'Brien]

How's it going, Millie? It's going well. I heard you had a good day today, though.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, dude, I'm having the fucking best day. I am really having the best. This day is like my perfect day. Except for recording the podcast.

[Casey O'Brien]

But, you know, I was gonna say, I like that your perfect day includes recording the podcast, but this seems to be sort of a sidebar to the good the perfect day.

[Millie De Chirico]

No, I. The only reason why this kind of the pot recording the podcast put kind of wrench in the day is because that it is absolutely perfect outside in Atlanta right now. Absolutely perfect. Like 71 degrees, sun is shining, all the flowers are in bloom. And I had to come inside to record the podcast, so that's kind of the bummer.

[Casey O'Brien]

But you want to be outside skateboarding.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, if I knew how to skateboard, I'd definitely be skateboarding. Let me. Let me give you the details. This is. This is, I think, about as close to a perfect Millie to Cherico day as possible. Like, this is like if I had nothing but the ability to Have a day like this. This is the day I would create for myself. Okay. Early morning, wake up, have some coffee at the home, then go to estate sales. All the estate sales are. Are in mid century modern homes in these fabulous neighborhoods that I never go to because I don't know anybody who was that rich.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yep. Okay.

[Millie De Chirico]

I would get to walk around a mid century modern home for a while. Maybe I buy things, maybe I don't. Then maybe a second estate sale, maybe a little bit more country folk, less mid century modern and much cheaper. Something that, you know, a few of the odds and ends that she didn't get, maybe at the first one. Then plant store.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, okay.

[Millie De Chirico]

Which, you know, might be called a nursery. It might be the hardware store plant section. It might be like a fancy plant place, whatever. Go and look at some plants, maybe buy a little plant or two, guard it. And, you know, maybe you're at the Lowe's or the Home Depot or something like that, and you're in the garden center. You pick up a couple shrubs, whatever it is. Then breakfast alone. Alone with. With a. Alone with a. When it's like the initial breakfast rush has died down and it's kind of like between breakfast and lunch, like maybe 11am and then ordering, you know, your meal, whatever it is, an egg and some, you know, chicken sausage or something like that, and then getting a side of the decadent French toast or the pancake or whatever they've got, eat a little bit of it, put it in, you know, foil. If you don't finish it, take it home and then you just roll around town.

[Casey O'Brien]

But like, amazing.

[Millie De Chirico]

Doing your thing. Go. Then you got to go home and record a podcast and you're like, listen, if it wasn't for this podcast, I'd be at the park.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, this really br. Brought you back, back down to earth.

[Millie De Chirico]

I know, I know.

[Casey O'Brien]

Podcast.

[Millie De Chirico]

But regardless, that is the best day. This is my perfect day.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's a great. That sounds like heaven. Now, when you're eating alone at the breakfast table, what are you doing? Are you looking at your phone? Or you're just staring straight ahead like a hitman eating alone at a dine.

[Millie De Chirico]

You know, if I think. You know what I do sometimes, this is not. This is going to make me sound like a fucking dipshit, but I sometimes will bring a couple copies of the New Yorker in my bag that I just have in my bag. Do you know what I'm saying? Because the New Yorker is like thin and small enough, and there's always back issues to where I'M like, oh, let me just like slide one in my bag or a couple in my bag. And then that way if I'm in a situation where I have some reading time.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

That I can do it.

[Casey O'Brien]

Plus, you're kind of peacocking, too. You're kind of attracting people that maybe would also read the New Yorker. You know,

[Millie De Chirico]

Listen, I used to love that. I used to love baiting men with reading the New Yorker, and it didn't do me any good. Okay.

[Casey O'Brien]

I did a similar thing when I was in college, driving my car around campus. I'd be like, blasting like pavement in the Pixies. And I'd be like, yoo. Who. Who among you as a fan, come hither?

[Millie De Chirico]

And it never worked.

[Casey O'Brien]

Are you enticed? I'm listening to. I'm listening to Alien Lanes by Guided by Voices. Care for a date?

[Millie De Chirico]

I'm going to tell you right now, the men who liked the fact that I had a New Yorker subscription.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

Did not treat me well. And I'm with.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, shit.

[Millie De Chirico]

And I'm with none of them. So just. Just to throw that out there, I. I am not in a successful relationship with any guy who was charmed that I read the New Yorker.

[Casey O'Brien]

I see.

[Millie De Chirico]

Okay, okay. But I do believe, and I used to say this on. I saw what you did all the time about the airport. There was something alluring about a woman who dines alone.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, yes.

[Millie De Chirico]

And has all the confidence in the world to do it. You're intrigued. In fact, when I was at this breakfast place, I was on the back patio, which is fantastic and fabulous, and these two little girls who were their family was at another table, like down a couple tables away from me. They all spoke French, by the way. So this adds a little pizzazz to what I'm about to tell you. These two little girls were staring at me and I was like, oh, man, I don't know what they're thinking right now. Now. And they just kept looking at me. And they were just kind of. At some point, they kind of like their. Their family had finished eating and they just kind of like hovered at the table and they were like, I think they wanted to talk to me.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

And I'm like, they probably thought you looked cool. I know. They were probably like, wow, is that our future? That woman is eating creme brulee French toast alone.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

And is looking at TikTok and I wonder.

[Casey O'Brien]

Piled with bushes that she just bought at the garden store.

[Millie De Chirico]

So I'm hoping that they were inspired to be single for the rest of their Lives. But, you know,

[Casey O'Brien]

I will say Patience does. I feel like she'll, like, be interested in, like, usually it's like an. Like a. A woman.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

That, like, looks interesting. And she'll just go up to them and stare at them in awe.

[Millie De Chirico]

You know, does she talk to them or.

[Casey O'Brien]

She doesn't. She'll. She'll sometimes be like, hi. You know, she's. She's still, like, learning how to talk, but she's become much more talkative with random people.

[Millie De Chirico]

I would say I'm going to tell you selfishly, you should encourage that because there is nothing that, like, I sometimes will cry. Like, I. Or not cry, because that would be kind of crazy. But I start feeling weepy when kids introduce themselves to me. Like, when they're just like, come up to me and like, they're like, hi, my name is so. Or like, they'll just be like, hi, what are you doing? Or something. It's so sweet that I'm, like, emotional about how sweet it is. I don't know. I don't know. Just.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, no, I think it's a good. I think people love it. And people love when Patience comes up and stares at them.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. That little cutie with her little pigtails. Can you imagine?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yep, yep, yep, yep. Well, I'm glad that. I mean, this day sounds absolutely heavenly.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

And on a weekday, no less. I mean, it sounds great.

[Millie De Chirico]

It's great. And like, to be quite honest, this episode is going to be great too. It's going to be a part of my. My amazing day because we have a special thing going on, right?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes, we do. It's really exciting. We've never done one, like an episode kind of so loose and off format. But we're going to be talking about movie date stories. We'd asked people to send in their movie date stories, and we got a lot of them. So I'm excited. And I haven't looked at these, so they're going to be completely new to me too. So that's kind of exciting.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. We both haven't looked and so we have no idea what's going to happen, but the entire episode is going to be dedicated to these, you know, listener stories of dates, movie dates. And I don't know, I think we both were like, we love getting feedback and mail and stuff like that. And we were like, why not just do an entire episode where we just, like, let the listeners have it and we can just listen to their stories. So I'm excited.

[Casey O'Brien]

Let the inmates run the asylum Let

[Millie De Chirico]

the shitheads run the pod for once.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, that's right. I'm excited. I can't wait to get into this, and I might even share a movie date story of my own.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, my God. I would love that. I would love that. I have nothing to share, but I'm happy for you. Let's hear it. Okay, without further ado, should we get. Should we go? Should we start? Let's do it. Okay. You're listening to Dear Movies, I love you. Dear Movies, I love you. And I've got to know if you love me too.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes, and I check the box below.

[Millie De Chirico]

All righty. You are listening to Dear Movies, I Love youe. This is a podcast for those who are in a relationship with movies. My name is Millie De Chirico.

[Casey O'Brien]

My name is Casey o', Brien, and

[Millie De Chirico]

like we just said, this is a very special episode of Dear Movies, I love you. We are going to basically hear from the listeners. They've either written us or sent us voice memos, right?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes.

[Millie De Chirico]

All about their movie date stories. So they could be good dates, they could be bad dates, they could be. They could be boring dates, sexy dates, dangerous dates. Maybe their child was conceived in a movie theater.

[Casey O'Brien]

I don't know. Oh, I hope we have a child conception story in here.

[Millie De Chirico]

I don't want to be there for that story, but, like, you know what I mean? It would be nice to hear that somebody was conceived during, you know, whatever, Chinatown.

[Casey O'Brien]

We were watching Jade in the movie theater.

[Millie De Chirico]

We were watching Houseguest with John Larroquette and Keir Dalli.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's called Madhouse.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, madhouse. They say Houseguests. Oh, shit.

[Casey O'Brien]

Houseguest is with Sinbad and Phil Hartman.

[Millie De Chirico]

I love how you know that right

[Casey O'Brien]

off the rip that was. We rented that movie all the time when we were kids. The house guests.

[Millie De Chirico]

That's so funny. Oh, my God. Well, no, I'm excited to hear. And like I said, we have no prior knowledge of any of this stuff, so we're just gonna have pure reactions. And that could be good or bad.

[Casey O'Brien]

No, I'm excited. It'll be raw.

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[Ray Porter]

I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections and it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo. Is this indulgent? And I really thought about it.

[Millie De Chirico]

I was like, no.

[Ray Porter]

At this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that deeply, emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic.

[Kal Penn]

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[Ray Porter]

Great because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.

[Kal Penn]

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[Millie De Chirico]

Well, do you wanna do a film diary real quick?

[Casey O'Brien]

I do. Let's open it up.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, yar yor.

[Casey O'Brien]

Mine is sort of. Well, I think you see what I'm doing here with my film diaries.

[Millie De Chirico]

I see. So I don't know they see yet.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, I'll go first because I don't really want to speak too much on these.

[Millie De Chirico]

Sure.

[Casey O'Brien]

Cause we're doing something with these movies I watched a little later. Okay, that's just a little hint, But I watched three movies this week. I watched Basket Case from 1982. I watched Basket Case 2 from 1990, and I watched Brain Damage from 1988. These are all by the director Frank Hennenlauter. And I love this director. I love these movies. These movies are outrageous. They really go for it. And I'd seen these before. I hadn't seen basket case 2 before, but absolutely loved it. I love all these movies. They're so interesting and grimy and great. And so I'm not going to get into the nitty gritty of those. But if you're a Frank Hennin Lauder fan or if you've never seen any of his mov, I would say these are three good ones to start with.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. I mean, the thing that I love about Frank Henn Lauder is that he. He's basically like. He's like an old school exploitation director where he's like, I make exploitation movies. I'm not trying to be anything but, like, kind of a smut peddler, which I think is so fun.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, there's a purity to these movies. They don't feel like they're trying to be anything other than what you just said, like, grimy B movies, like. And they really don't try to do anything else besides that. And they're not doing it ironically, either. So I. I just. I. I like it. I like these movies a lot. Yeah. And lots of fun it was. I would. And they're short, man. I love. They're all like, 90 minutes. Great.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Eating these up. Love it.

[Millie De Chirico]

Well, I won't ask you any more questions then.

[Casey O'Brien]

Don't ask me a single question about them, because I will not answer. But I do want to hear what you watched this past week.

[Millie De Chirico]

Well, I saw two films, both in the movie theater.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, really? Both of these?

[Millie De Chirico]

The first one was a Videodrome, which is. The video store in my town, does a series at the Terra Theater in Atlanta called Terra Dome, which is kind of the sister to Plaza Drome that they do at the Plaza Theater in Atlanta. But they showed the film Long Day's Journey Into Night from 2018, the Begone

[Casey O'Brien]

film, which I just found out has nothing to do at all with the play. The Eugene o' Neill play.

[Millie De Chirico]

Correct.

[Casey O'Brien]

The very famous Eugene o' Neill play called Long Day's Journey into Night, which

[Millie De Chirico]

was also made into a movie in 1962 with Jason Robards and Katharine Hepburn. Anyway, not the same movie.

[Casey O'Brien]

Nothing to do with each other.

[Millie De Chirico]

No, nothing. Not even close. But it's an interesting film because the whole. The notable thing about this. And by the way, I never saw Resurrection, which is B. Gone's newest film. I think it was, like, 2025 or something when he made that one. All my friends went and saw it. I haven't seen it yet, but I'd always heard about this movie, Long Day's Journey and tonight, because there's this. It's kind of like split into two movies where there's a beginning and then it kind of switches into this hour longish sequence that's all one take and it's in 3D.

[Casey O'Brien]

Wow.

[Millie De Chirico]

And we did not see it in 3D, so I don't believe that. I don't know why we didn't see it in 3D, but there was. No one had 3D glasses. We obviously didn't see it in 3D. But.

[Casey O'Brien]

Can I take a tangent here?

[Millie De Chirico]

Go ahead, please.

[Casey O'Brien]

I'm very anti 3D, and I'm not. That's not really a hot take. And it seems like the big wave of 3D movies is over. Yeah, but I really hated them because I feel like that never looked crisp to me. Like everything was. There's kind of a blur when your eyes are trying to focus on the different, you know, levels and dimensions in front of you. I just didn't think it was a true cinematic experience. And I hated it. And I didn't even like it when it was Mad Max Fury Road.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

So anyways, I hate 3D, and I'm glad it's not really around anymore.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. I mean, I'm kind of with you in a certain regard. I mean, honestly, like, to me it seems so old school. Like an old school kind of William Castle type of gimmick. Like, I'll see jaws in 3D any day of the week. But, like, if you make a new 3D movie, I'm kind of like, really? And part of the reason why I think I don't like it either is because it almost kind of like they know they're shooting in 3D, so they have to present scenes that would look good in 3D, if you know what I'm saying. And there was this one scene where one of the main character in the second half of the movie Long Day's Journey Into Night was going down this, like, kind of. I don't know, it felt kind of like an incline or something like that where he was like in a swing and I was like. And we didn't. Like I said, we didn't see it in 3D. So I don't know what it was supposed to have looked like, but I'm like, is it supposed to be. Cause why is it going on for so long? And then I kind of thought, oh, maybe it's because it looks good in 3D.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

But then we're not watching it in 3D, so who gives a shit, you know?

[Casey O'Brien]

There was this. There's this essay that the famed editor and sound designer Walter Murch wrote about 3D, and he was saying, like, actually, physically, your eyeball can't focus on two different planes at the same time, so it causes this, like, blurry effect, which sucks.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

So like 3D, you're actually not really able to see 3D films in that way.

[Listener G]

Like.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway, I don't. I don't know. I. I think I enjoyed the second half a lot more than the first half.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay.

[Millie De Chirico]

It. Man. You know, it's like when you get old and you're like, if something moves really slow after like 8pm oh, well,

[Casey O'Brien]

in my past podcast, Fart House, we were. One of the. One of the criteria was, are you able to watch this movie after 8pm without falling asleep?

[Millie De Chirico]

Yes.

[Casey O'Brien]

And which if you. Most. Most art house movies, you're not able to.

[Millie De Chirico]

I was going to say this is. This would be a fart house, like gold standard this.

[Casey O'Brien]

It would score. It would score high on the fartsy test.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. Oh, the fartsy test would be like past 10. It would be 11 12. But it was now, that's all to say it was gorgeous. It was. I mean, you know, I think I wouldn't be out of pocket to say that Be Gone is very influenced by Wong Kar Wai and Tartofsky. Like, I mean, and it's all very evident in these movies. So I don't know. I think it was interesting. I'm glad I saw it. I had heard about it forever, so there's that.

[Casey O'Brien]

I saw his movie Kylie Blues or Kaylee Blues from 2015, and that was also very slow. And I also think it ended on a really long. A 41 minute long take.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

So he's very into that.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. I had to look up how old he was because I was like, is he 70? No, he's younger than me. Be Gone was like, right.

[Casey O'Brien]

Holy. He's. He's younger than me. He's 36. Okay, I'm getting. That pisses me off. I'm like, really upset by this.

[Millie De Chirico]

Welcome. Welcome to my life. Welcome to my life. Yeah, he's young.

[Casey O'Brien]

He was like a zygote when he made his first movie. This is a. This is really sending me into a dark place.

[Millie De Chirico]

Okay, you're crashing out because I revealed this biographical info. Anyway, so this. The other film that I watched in the theater this week. Oh, brother. I don't even know what to tell you. I watched Faces of death from 2026, which you might Be telling yourself, is it related to the mondo movie of the same name from the 70s? And I will tell you, it barely is. It sort of is, because it's not a mondo movie. It's a narrative film that references this mondo documentary. It's like, very classic piece of shithead exploitation video. Nasty cinema, right?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

I couldn't. Oh, God. It's a. They're just chucking anything against the wall at this point, so I'm not gonna even ask why. Why?

[Casey O'Brien]

You know, it's disappointing to hear that, because this is the same team, I believe, that made 2018's CAM. Did you see Cam about cam girling?

[Listener H]

No.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, my God. Is that gonna hurt my feelings?

[Casey O'Brien]

That's really good. I really like that movie. So it's. Yeah, it's the same. It's the same creative team behind that. So it's a bummer that this was no good.

[Millie De Chirico]

Daniel Goldhaber, who is the director, did. Also did how to Blow Up a Pipeline, which was, like, a popular. That was a big thing, right?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, yeah, I never saw that one.

[Millie De Chirico]

But, I mean, listen, I saw the original Faces of Death, like, when I was in college when I was watching all my shithead movies. It was a notorious film. And then you later find out that most of it, if not all of it, is fake, which is fine. I mean, it's like, okay, it's a relief that no one's eating monkey brains. Okay. Thank God. But the movie is so strange in that it kind of creates this, you know, new movie around this movie in these very strange ways, and then actually uses clips from the original Faces of Death and also audio as part of the film. I don't know. It was just kind of like. And then that is what it is. I think the biggest thing to bring up, though, is that once again, I went to the goddamn AMC multiplex that I have talked about so much on this podcast, because some fuckery always happens at this amc.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

Like. And wouldn't you know, it was spring break, which I've already told people. My. One of my film gripes is going to the movies during spring break because all the kids are running that movie theater are going ham. Then the kids are running around. And there's also a new Super Mario Brothers movie in the theater right now. So the whole place is just covered in popcorn and icy shit. I mean, it was a mess. And I went to a press screening of it, so I wasn't even in.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's crazy that this was. This infiltrated a press screen.

[Millie De Chirico]

Listen, I mean, I don't even really know what I was like. I think I see one of the other Atlanta film critics here. I think most of them were like, I'm not watching that. Anyway, the movie stopped an hour and 15 minutes into the movie. Just plain stopped. Then one of the managers came in. The movie theater was like, we're working on it. And then the next thing you know, they just start starting at. They restarted at the beginning and then just fast forwarded. They're just fast, and it was slow. And we were all just sitting there wa. For them to fast forward it to the part that it ended. I mean, I was like, this movie theater is cursed. This is a curse.

[Casey O'Brien]

Crazy.

[Millie De Chirico]

They built this on holy land. I don't know what happened.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, this is like a former cemetery. They didn't. They didn't clear out the bodies.

[Millie De Chirico]

This is like, you know, Stephen King's pet cemetery. I don't know what to tell you. It was just. But, yeah, that was just the.

[Casey O'Brien]

God.

[Millie De Chirico]

Icing on the cake. But that's it. That's all I watched this week.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, man. Very good. Yeah. Millie's adventures and movie seeing. Crazy stuff. I'm worried for you.

[Millie De Chirico]

I am too. And it's the closest movie theater to my house, and I just. So I'm always going back. I'm always like, oh, I gotta go. Gotta go back. And then I'm like, oh, God.

[Casey O'Brien]

Like, man, oh, man. Well, should we close up the diary?

[Millie De Chirico]

Should we?

[Casey O'Brien]

We must.

[Millie De Chirico]

Duh.

[Casey O'Brien]

All right, moving on to the main event. Today we're talking movie date stories. Millie, do you have a movie date story you want to share?

[Millie De Chirico]

No, I do not.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay.

[Millie De Chirico]

I don't.

[Casey O'Brien]

I have a funny one.

[Millie De Chirico]

I don't. Well, before you get into it.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes.

[Millie De Chirico]

Maybe you're. Maybe this is putting the cart before the horse. What are your thoughts about going on a date to a movie?

[Casey O'Brien]

Here's the thing. Did I go on the first date with my wife to a movie? I did. So it can work out well. But even on that date, I was like, a movie is not maybe the best first date because you're not talking, you know, and you're just. It's kind of awkward. You're just, like, sitting there next to the person, and then. I don't know. I actually don't think it's a good first date. Going to the movie.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. I think I'm with you. I think movies are just so my job.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

That. I'm just like, do I want you to come to my job?

[Casey O'Brien]

I Hear that?

[Millie De Chirico]

Do you know what I'm saying? And then.

[Casey O'Brien]

Totally.

[Millie De Chirico]

And then what? We're gonna talk a lot after the movie, which is actually something I don't like to do. You know, when you go to the movies with a bunch of your friends, then everybody just, like, stands in the lobby. I'm like, ugh, God.

[Casey O'Brien]

You don't like that?

[Millie De Chirico]

Hell, no. You can ask my friends. You can ask my friends. I'm the first one out. Like, when I get out of a

[Casey O'Brien]

movie theater, you want to go home?

[Millie De Chirico]

I'm gone.

[Casey O'Brien]

Are you the New Yorker?

[Millie De Chirico]

I'm gone, baby. I'm like, literally, like, I'll see y' all later.

[Casey O'Brien]

That then I feel like that's the point of seeing movies with friends, is that you go and, like, let's talk about it. Let's dissect it. Let's get a drink. That's what I like.

[Millie De Chirico]

Well, that's the thing, is that nobody gets a drink. No one's going after anywhere after. My problem is with standing around in the lobby that I don't like. If you want to take me to a second location to download and, you know, have some beers, yeah, I'm cool with that. But I just hate standing around, especially with, like, a big group of people. I'm like, you know what?

[Casey O'Brien]

I can kind of see what you. Because I get. I feel funny expressing my opinion on the movie right in the theater when it ends or near the theater, because I don't want the other patrons to hear my thoughts. I don't. Because I've had things where I'll be like, someone. One of my friends will be like, that part kind of didn't make sense. And someone else will be, like, from the. The theater that just saw it with us that we don't know will be like, yeah, I thought the same thing. And I'm like, oh, go away. I don't want to talk to these strangers. You know what I mean? It kind of invites people to, like, speak to you. So I do kind of understand that. Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

I don't want to be forced to process my emotions immediately after something. I'd rather give it some time, like. And plus, I just don't want to, like, be, like, the minute I come out of a movie, what'd you think? I'm like, oh, God, I don't know. Like, yeah, I don't know. I'll just. Can I use the bathroom and get that at least? Gives me, like, a couple minutes to, like, get my bearings. I don't know. I just am, like, coming out of a movie theater immediately to be asked. I just think that that's kind of nutty.

[Casey O'Brien]

I do kind of like the, like, friend lobby hang, though.

[Millie De Chirico]

What, are you going to McGuffins afterwards? Take me to McGuffins. Do you guys know McGuffins?

[Casey O'Brien]

Is that the bar at, like, the AMC or something? God, Is it the AMC?

[Millie De Chirico]

Yes. I was like, who is with MacGuffins? What's the. What are the pores?

[Casey O'Brien]

Like, those movie theater bars? They're never open. It pisses me off. And I'm the kind of person that would want to, like, hang out and get a drink in the. At the McGuffins.

[Millie De Chirico]

Did you. Did you ever go to the restaurant in the Arc Light when you lived in la?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes, I did.

[Millie De Chirico]

Me too.

[Casey O'Brien]

I did do that.

[Millie De Chirico]

Me too.

[Casey O'Brien]

And there was a bar. There was an Arc Light when I lived in Culver City, too. There was a little mini Arc Light in downtown Culver for a while, and they had a bar in there. And I'd go to that, too.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

After the movie, I thought the food.

[Millie De Chirico]

I thought the one in Hollywood, I thought the food was pretty good. So, you know, a lot of times Danielle and I would just go eat dinner there and then go to the movies.

[Casey O'Brien]

But, like, credible.

[Millie De Chirico]

The MacGuffins bar is nothing's it.

[Casey O'Brien]

I kind of hate the term MacGuffin, too. I feel like the type of person who, like, likes that as a term is like, this, like, annoying screenwriter guy that's, like, it's a MacGuffin. Like, oh, boy, shut the up. You know, like, guys that like. Like Casablanca and like, film noir and wear, like, fedora. Those kind of guys.

[Millie De Chirico]

It feels like anytime you say McGuffin, there should be a slide whistle afterwards. Maybe you can put. Okay, I'm gonna say the word McGuffin, and I want you to put in a slide whistle after and see what happens. Okay. McGuffin.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, I didn't like that.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, annoying.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

Anyway, I don't know where we ended up now, but I think the point is, like, going on a date. Going to. On a date to a movie for me is not the best. Maybe if it's a home screening, that's one thing, but going to an actual movie theater for a day is not, like, my first choice. Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

And I remember, even on the date with Trisha, my wife, it was like, is she liking this movie? Did I pick a good movie?

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

Fuck. We're just, like, sitting here. I want to, like. I want to connect, but I'm like, we Can't.

[Millie De Chirico]

Like, so it's like taking your date to an open mic,

[Casey O'Brien]

which is quite as heinous as that.

[Millie De Chirico]

Worst thing. But, like, now I'm curious, though. Like, tell me your movie date story.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, this was in high school. I won't use any real names here.

[Millie De Chirico]

Okay.

[Casey O'Brien]

I was a freshman in high school, and I was friends with this girl, and I got. I had the feeling that maybe she wanted to be more than friends, you know? And so. But we were, like, friends, you know? And she called or she said to me at school, like, hey, a big group of us are going to the movie theater to see, I want to say, Pirates of the Caribbean. And I was like, oh, cool. Who's going? It's like, you know who's gonna be there? Debbie, Angie, Rachel, Keith, Dennis.

[Millie De Chirico]

I don't know.

[Casey O'Brien]

These are all fake names, but, like, a bunch of people, you know? And I'm like, okay, cool. Next day, she's like, oh, Angie and Keith can't make it. I'm like, oh, it's okay. Well, let's keep going. List kept dwindling day after day. List gets smaller and smaller. And I'm like, huh, that's interesting. Day of the movie, we go to the movie. It's just me and this girl. And I get the sense that there was no group invite.

[Millie De Chirico]

Whoa.

[Casey O'Brien]

And all of a sudden, I'm on a date.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, no. Holy shit. I. I have never. I have never been able to be that bold and do that kind of thing. The trick.

[Casey O'Brien]

And I didn't. I didn't know. This is like, you know, I didn't have a cell phone. It's not, you know, like, information isn't passed as quick. And so, like, I show up to the movie theater. I'm like, oh, where's so and so and so and so? Oh, they couldn't make it either.

[Millie De Chirico]

I'm like, see, you gotta have, like, no shame to pull some shit like that. Cause I would be so flipped out getting called out on that. Like, I'd be like, oh, my God. He's gonna be like, where's everybody else now? I'm leaving because I don't want it to be just me and you.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, I'm a nice guy. And I didn't say I wasn't gonna do that, but I was like, oh,

[Millie De Chirico]

okay, I've had that with.

[Casey O'Brien]

Just go to the movie then.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, I've had that with just friends that have done that to me. Like, this is. I'm not calling anybody out. Well, actually, I don't even know if this motherfucker listens podcast, I could care less, really. But there's an old friend of mine who I have been friends with and I've hung out with alone before. Okay. I kind of lost touch with him. And then, like, recently, within the past couple years, I realized that he lived in my neighborhood, like, and he's, you know, married or whatever. He invited a bunch of us to his house, and I was like thinking, oh, you know, I haven't seen this guy in forever. That'd be kind of nice. And then we're on this group text, and then it's like, people start canceling.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

And the only people that haven't canceled at some point is me and then the guy that's hosting. And then he just canceled it because I guess he didn't want to just have me come over. And I've been like, like, damn, dude, I'm not trying to, like, pull some shit. Like, you know, I mean, see, in

[Casey O'Brien]

that scenario, he could have been like, okay, Millie, let's go do something. Or like, let's change the plans a little bit here to make it more of like a one on one hangout.

[Millie De Chirico]

Like, yeah, I don't need all these olives and these cheeses. Like, maybe you and I could just go get a beer. But that didn't happen. And that's the thing I said. I think I fear that so much that I would never reverse engineer a secret date. Do you know what I mean? I wouldn't be like, oh, I'm fighting Keith and Keith, Keith and Rachel, but not really because I want to be alone with Casey.

[Casey O'Brien]

But see, it's one of those things where I didn't do any investigation afterward to be like, hey, just a.

[Millie De Chirico]

Were you.

[Casey O'Brien]

Did you know that this was happening? Or, like, what did that invite even happen? Like, I just. I didn't do any work afterward to like, uncover the mystery of it, you know? So that's my only real funny date story. Funny movie dates.

[Millie De Chirico]

Was it fun?

[Casey O'Brien]

I don't even remember.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, boy.

[Casey O'Brien]

I don't remember. I remember everything up to going to see the movie, but I don't really remember anything before or afterwards.

[Millie De Chirico]

So you didn't marry this person and live with.

[Casey O'Brien]

I didn't marry this person. I didn't conceive a baby in the movie theater with this person.

[Millie De Chirico]

Got it.

[Casey O'Brien]

Unfortunately. I'm so sorry.

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Hey, everyone, it's Kal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay the Audible and Iheart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project Hail Mary Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and. And what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.

[Ray Porter]

I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections. And it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it.

[Millie De Chirico]

I was like, no.

[Ray Porter]

At this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that. That that deeply, emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.

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[Casey O'Brien]

Well, do you think I should get into some of the stories?

[Millie De Chirico]

Duh. This is what I'm here for.

[Casey O'Brien]

Duh.

[Millie De Chirico]

I can be outside right now. Let's listen. Let's go.

[Casey O'Brien]

You can be outside.

[Millie De Chirico]

That's right.

[Casey O'Brien]

I'm in misery. Let's move this along. Okay, Liz is the first one from Lori, and the title is embarrassing parentheses, no date story, no parentheses. Date story. So it sounds like a date didn't happen. Here we go.

[Lori]

Hey, Millie and Casey. This is Lori in Cleveland. Big fan. I love the show. Here's my embarrassing date story. This is back when I was in high school. I was set to go on a date with a guy. But the day of the date, I'd been hanging all day with my friends. We were having a great time. They were going to Nightmare on Elm Street Part 3, Dream warriors that night. And I really wanted to go. I mean, it's fucking Dream Warriors. Of course I wanted to go. So I did something that I just was. I'm not proud of. I called this guy, bailed, told him I was too sick to go, and that I hoped we could reschedule another time. He was cool about it. I went to Dream warriors with my friends. Now, one of my friends was a. She could be chaotic. And she laughed really loud. So there were points in this movie where she was just scream, laughing. And when she would. All eyes in the theater would be on us, including the eyes of the guy that I was supposed to be

[Casey O'Brien]

on a date with.

[Lori]

That's right. When I bailed, he went to the movies with a friend of his and of course, saw me there. He didn't say anything, but of course he was pissed and never talk to me again. I was deeply mortified because I wasn't proud that I had bailed on him like that. My friends thought it was hysterical,

[Millie De Chirico]

but

[Lori]

to me, it was really embarrassing that I caught doing something really kind of shady. But listen, it was Dream Warriors. No regrets. That shit was awesome. Anyways, really love you guys. What you do for movies is. And I hope you keep doing it for a very long time. Thanks a lot, guys.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, my God, Laurie. Incredible.

[Millie De Chirico]

Okay, so I'm writing notes while I'm doing this because I want to remember details to talk about that I want to bring up. So on this piece of paper, it says Dream warriors and then marry him. Underlined about a hundred fucking times to the point where the paper is ripped by the pen. Okay, I'm gonna. I'm just gonna say this right now. That is one of the best stories ever. Of course he went to Dream warriors after he got dumped by you.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

Which is what I would do. I would also be like, oh, fuck, I got bailed on. Well, I'm just gonna go see Fucking Nightmare.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's one of my favorite Nightmare on Elm Streets.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yes. Oh, of course. The fact that that was not the best meet cute of all time and you're not married to this guy and have been for years, makes my stomach hurt.

[Casey O'Brien]

I mean, but how could they, though? Millie, she wronged him.

[Millie De Chirico]

I know, but it would be the kind of thing where they sheepishly, like, look at each other in the lobby and be like, hey, well, I guess I wanted to come see Dream warriors instead of Mad House with John Larette and Chris. And then he was like, yeah, I guess I did, too. And then I'm like. Like, let's fall in love.

[Casey O'Brien]

It really is the Pina colada song of, like, meet cutes, kind of. You know, it's crazy.

[Millie De Chirico]

It's like the Christmas rapping song by the waitresses. You forgot cranberries, too? You wanted to see Dream warriors, too?

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, it just wasn't meant to be, I guess. I don't know. But that is an incredible, incredible. What a strong start, Laurie. I'm, like, wowed.

[Millie De Chirico]

Laurie's gotta be topped. That's a great story, Lori.

[Casey O'Brien]

That was incredible. And it was told well.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, it was, like, perfect. It was a perfect story. Thank you so much.

[Casey O'Brien]

Thank you. Oh, my God. Okay, this is an email, so I'm going to be reading this one. Hi, Millie and Casey. In your last episode, you requested movie theater, first date, cinema stories. And this is one that my husband and I always joke about. My husband and I have known each other since we were 17 and 18. When we had been friends for about a year, he asked me on what he believed to be a date. He suggested lunch and the cinema and let me pick the film. I proceeded to pick 12 Years a Slave, which he thought was a rogue date choice, but he went with it. The film did at least give us the opportunity to trauma bond. But despite holding hands for a large portion of the film, I still did not clock that this was meant to be a date. Parenthetically, she says, I was 18 and chronically undateable at high school. Okay. When we got home, Eliot texted me saying, so, was that a date? And I freaked out and responded, no. We stayed good friends, but did not go on another date until about four years later, when I can only assume we finally recovered from the 12 Years a Slave first date debacle. We've now been together for almost eight years and married for almost one. Watching TV and films together is one of our favorite things. Thanks for the fun and keep up the good work. Molly from Manchester, uk.

[Millie De Chirico]

Molly, first of all, that actually warms my heart that you're still, still together. I love that. My. I think right now my first thought is, would you. Casey, would you, like, grab somebody's hand to hold if you were watching 12 Years a Slave together.

[Casey O'Brien]

Would I grab their hand if it was, like, in any context? Is that what you're asking?

[Millie De Chirico]

No, I'm talking about specifically for 12 years of slave. Like, would you work up enough amorous feelings during that film to be like, oh, I just want to hold their hands?

[Casey O'Brien]

You know what? I feel like if he's on date mode and he's like, oh, well, you got to. I got to hold her hand. At some point, I think I would have those kind of goggles on, and I could see myself holding a hand. During 12 Years a Slave, I remember a similar situation, and this wasn't at the movie theater, but I was, like, on a date with a girl, and I was like, oh, let's put on my favorite movie, Blue Velvet It. And she'd never seen it, and I was like, oh, this was bad. This was a bad idea. Ended up not being a romantic situation.

[Millie De Chirico]

Wow. Yeah. I mean, like, I don't know. I. I think, okay, maybe if he was being like, I'm gonna, under the guise of maybe try to comfort her during some uncomfortable scene, but I just wouldn't. I don't feel like when you get, like, you're in a movie and, like, you have the instinct to reach for someone's hand, it's because something lovely is happening. And you're like, oh, like, I feel like in a mo. Like, that. You're like, I'm giving you your body autonomy. Like, I want you to be your. Your own personage. I don't want to come for you at all. Like.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, I think that speaks to the fact that this was a totally inappropriate movie to see on a first date, because, like, no one's gonna do anything right here because it's like, you wanna. You know, if it's a date, you do. That's the problem. You know what we were talking about? It's hard to have a date, a first date at the movie, because you want to connect. You want to be cuddly with them. You want to be flirty with them. And the only way to do that during a movie is to, like, hold hands, you know, so. But, you know, Trisha and I saw the movie. What was it? Is it Jobs? The Steve Jobs movie? On our first date. And I don't think I held her hand because I didn't really think it was, like, a romantic movie. I wasn't called to it. I gave her her bottle of body autonomy on that.

[Millie De Chirico]

But y'. All. Y' all folks are out there watching wild stuff on a date. I don't no thoughts. Just like, let's go see a movie about Steve Jobs.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, let's go see Cannibal Holocaust. All right, moving on. Here we go. This is from Ashley.

[Millie De Chirico]

Hi, Millie and Casey. This is Ashley from Baltimore.

[Listener J]

You had asked for going on dates at the movies.

[Millie De Chirico]

So in 2003, I was single and ready to mingle. I saw Lord of the Return of the King three times with three different guys at the same movie theater. Each guy wanted to see this movie. And since I really just like going to the movies, it was fun. The last date, however, did end up mirroring this one. He's a keeper.

[Listener J]

Bye.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's pretty good. That's really funny. That's a tough movie to see three times in the theater. That's like a total runtime of like 12 hours.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, that's a commitment. But you know, listen, if she wanted to go to a movie with a guy and actually three different guys, that's the one to say. Get something like that. Oh, yeah. These like epics, like, guys love epics. Am I right?

[Casey O'Brien]

They do, but is there. Is this movie a hand holding movie? Could you, could you make out during this movie?

[Millie De Chirico]

I don't know.

[Casey O'Brien]

You're anti make out in the movie theater, right?

[Millie De Chirico]

Am I? Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

I don't know. I feel like we had a previous episode where you didn't like.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, maybe you're, maybe you're right about that. I also, but I also am like, I don't know enough about the ip. Let's just say that because I didn't watch those movies.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, you didn't?

[Millie De Chirico]

No.

[Casey O'Brien]

I love those movies. Yeah, I think there's, it's, you know, it's fantastical. There is romance in there. So I could see, you know, Aragorn and causing a stirring, you know, while you're watching. So I don't know.

[Millie De Chirico]

I'm just saying if you want to go on a day with a straight guy, watch one of those movies because they'll be popping boners at every moment from the middle earth or whatever the hell it is. The Shire. I don't know. What are we?

[Casey O'Brien]

The Shire?

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. So I'm saying, like, she did pretty good to go out three separate times with three separate guys, but I just

[Casey O'Brien]

wouldn't have the stamina to see that movie three times in the theater. I don't know.

[Millie De Chirico]

She married one of them.

[Casey O'Brien]

Right? Isn't that so? It did work. You're right, it did. Well, thank you, Ashley. That was great.

[Millie De Chirico]

That was good.

[Casey O'Brien]

This is from John.

[Listener H]

Hi, Millie and Casey. You guys are Amazing. First off, my movie date story is pretty quick, mostly because I've told it a million times. And that's because whenever the Spice Girls are brought up, this story comes up. It was my first date ever. An 8th grade date story, which you can imagine is a little awkward. And I'm 41, so this was during the time of no cell phones. Basically the first girlfriend I ever had. We got dropped off by our parents when we went to movies back then, and I was supposed to meet her to see Spice World, the Spice Girls movie. I showed up at the time that I was told, and she didn't show up. She wasn't there. I thought I was being stood up, but because I had gotten dropped off by my mom, I knew where to go. So I watched Spice World by myself, thinking I was stood up, only to run into her on the way out. And if you're wondering, yes, I pretended like I just got there, I had not seen it, and I watched Spice Girls, Spice World back to back on the same day. Yeah, pretty wild, pretty funny. Pretended like I had just gotten the jokes, tried really hard to play it cool, and I don't think I ever saw it again. But it was a great 90s day story, and I hope you enjoyed it. Thank you guys so much for everything you do.

[Casey O'Brien]

So it sounds like she showed up at the wrong time, or one of you showed up at the wrong time. Like, she showed up right when the first move. When he had seen it the first. After it had ended, that's when she showed up and was like, hey, let's see the movie.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, I'm very confused by the story. Okay, John, first of all, thank you for calling. Yes. Okay. Because I was like, is this, like, Lori's story, the first story where basically she went and saw Spice World without him? Like, she. She didn't show up to the movie, and then was like, I'm gonna go see it. Or was it a. She didn't know what time it was.

[Casey O'Brien]

I think that. I think what happened is John showed up at the right time, she's not there. He goes and sees the movie, and then she got the time wrong, and she showed up for, like, the next showing. So he ran into her after he's leaving the theater after he'd seen it the first time, and she's just showing fresh up, as fresh as a daisy, thinking that's when she was supposed to meet. And so then he's like, oh, yeah, let's go see it. But he had actually just seen it.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yes. Oh, my God. I Gotta be honest with you, I would have done the same damn thing.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, I a hundred percent would do the same thing. I would have eaten it.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, of course I'd be like, oh, no, I didn't just sit because I was. I got the time wrong. Or somebody got the time wrong.

[Casey O'Brien]

I wasn't just cursing your name to hell for the last hour and a half because I thought you had. Had stood me up.

[Millie De Chirico]

I'm gonna pretend that I just got here too.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

And then I'm watching this movie with fresh eyes. I guess my question is, though, did he buy another ticket or he just sit through, like, what. What was that about?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, that is interesting because I think he probably did buy a new ticket because. Because otherwise he would be like, oh, I'm just gonna go in here, and it would be. It would be weird.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

You know, maybe he was like. Maybe he left the theater already, was like, on his way out and like, ran into her, you know, I wonder where the meetup happened.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

If it was, you know, where the collision happened.

[Millie De Chirico]

Well, I mean, God, this would have been like late 90s. A movie was still like six bucks first run. Yeah. So he wouldn't have to spend his eighth grade money on. Yeah, movie twice. But, oh, boy, John, that's crazy. But good for you. I mean, I see this is the problem too, is that I gotta know if these people ended up together.

[Casey O'Brien]

Like, I. I'm like, no, he said they didn't. He said he never saw her.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, I never saw her again. Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Casey O'Brien]

We have gotten some marriage ones though, already, which is exciting and is exciting. All right, here we go. This one's from Hannah.

[Listener G]

Hi, Emily and Casey, this is Hannah. I'm calling from Austin, Texas. I'm a longtime listener of the podcast from back in the I saw what you did days. And my movie date story takes place in November of 2020. So still very much in the thick of COVID and quarantining and social distancing. Distancing and all that. So one night my boyfriend, who is now my fiance, told me to get dressed. We were going to go somewhere and he wouldn't tell me where and drove us to this AMC theater that we never ever go to that was like half an hour away from our house. We walk in and there's like one person working there, and we go sit down and it is a completely empty movie theater. And at that point, I think the theaters were not showing new movies still, I don't think because of, you know, crowds of people, but they Were starting to rent out individual theaters to small groups of people, and they just basically could show, like, whatever movies they happened to have in storage. So we sat down and watched the Empire Strikes Back. And I'm not like, a huge Star wars person. I like it just fine. Obviously, Empire is the best one, but when the theme music started playing and that title crawl started going across the screen, I felt like I was going to start crying. And I kind of feel a little emotional talking about it right now because we both love movies so much, and we love going to the theater, and that was such a weird time. And this felt, like, very hopeful and this little bit of normalcy, and it's a very special memory to me. So that's my story. Thanks for all that. You do love the podcast. Bye.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, that was sweet.

[Casey O'Brien]

That was sweet. Oh, man, that is sweet. You know, that was a hard time when you couldn't go to the theater. Like, I remember going to the movie theater for the first time after Covid, and it was, like, an emotional experience, and that was like. It kind of felt at the time, too, that, like, is this whole thing gonna go away? Are, like, we ever gonna be able to go to the movie theater again? Are movie theaters all gonna shut down? It kind of felt like there was a threat of that at the time. Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

I gotta remember what. God, what was the first movie I saw in the movie theater post Covet? I mean, I definitely know the movie that I saw right before COVID Lockdown, which is a. You know, that famous story of seeing Cats.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, this. We both. This was both our last movies.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean is that we both. We might have been in the same movie theater.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, she had a rowdy screen screening. That's right. I completely forgot about.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. Can you imagine that?

[Listener G]

That's.

[Millie De Chirico]

I mean, talk about a Meet cute. Let's say. Let's say it.

[Casey O'Brien]

But, like, maybe I screamed at you. Hey, shut up.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, they was like, stop blowing bubbles. You. Don't you remember the bubbles? My God.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

[Millie De Chirico]

And the whole. The whole thing, too. Like, right when Covid was announced. When they announced it and then they announced how you get it, the first thing I thought was, oh, I got this bubbles. There's Covid bubbles flying through the air. This whole damn place.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, I. The first movie I saw coming back from COVID was Zola, which I did not like that movie, but I remember that.

[Millie De Chirico]

Very Zola. Okay, let me see what mine was. Let me see when mine was content.

[Casey O'Brien]

My hot take about Cats. Is that Cats? The movie is good?

[Millie De Chirico]

Are you really or. Really?

[Casey O'Brien]

I like that movie. And I feel like people were like, this one's so weird. And I'm like, but Cats the musical is weird. Like, I don't. I feel like it's a true adaptation of the musical.

[Millie De Chirico]

Anyways, what if. Okay, that is weird. Let's see. See, now, I don't know what the movie. Because I watched. I mean, dude, man, 2020 was crazy. I watched so many movies in 2020 because a lot of them are at home.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, God. I couldn't tell you what I saw in the movie theater on the. On the first day back. Oh, I distinctly remember watching some of these. Like, I remember being in my apartment alone watching the Killing of America from 1981. I just. I can see that so clearly right now. But in terms of the movie that I saw first back after Covid, I don't know. But anyway, I. To Hannah's point, I think everybody was also. I mean, it's like, yeah, it was an emotional feeling because, like you said, it felt like maybe this wasn't ever gonna happen again and that there was still kind of a danger to going, you know? So I can totally see why she would feel emotional and especially watching something like. I mean, I know she was kind of like Empire Strikes Back, whatever, but. Yeah, I think something, even from your childhood or something would have made me emotional too.

[Casey O'Brien]

So just being in the theater, I don't know. I really hated watching movies with a mask on.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, yeah, that was hard. No kidding.

[Casey O'Brien]

All right, let's move on to the next one here.

[Listener J]

Hi, Millie and Casey. My movie date story takes place my senior year of high school. I was 17 and dating my first serious boyfriend, West. Up until that point, the guys I dated were honestly fuckboys. So it was refreshing to be with someone that was kind, sweet, and who I had a genuine connection with. I loved horror movies, and my favorite of all time was the Exorcist. That fall, the director's cut was being released in theaters, and I couldn't wait to go see it. West, who was into wwf rap and action movies, had never seen it, but was game to go with me. I don't remember much about watching the movie itself, except that the added scene of her going up the stairs like a spider was especially horrifying. I'd driven, so after the movie, I took west home, and for the first time ever, he asked if I'd walk him to his room. This meant going through his pitch black garage until we reached the interior door and short hallway to his room. I probably laughed, but I could also understand. I lived about 20 minutes outside of town out in the sticks, and I wasn't looking forward to my solo drive home. I walked him to his room, then made my way back through the garage, glancing around to see if Regan was creeping up on me. On the drive home, I blasted my punk music while sending frequent glances into my rearview mirror to check whether Reagan was crawling over the seat to get me. It was the most unsettling drive I'd made up to that point, and while I was glad to make it home, I had a tough time turning out the lights and getting to sleep that night waiting for Reagan to appear. Reagan didn't get either of us, and we lived to tell the tale. Wish I could remember more details, but it's almost been 25 years. Thanks for listening and I love the podcast. Each week feels like a fun hangout with two friends I've never met. Some feel good fun in a dystopian world.

[Casey O'Brien]

Nicole, thank you so much for your date story. I feel like that was. She was like reading an audiobook.

[Millie De Chirico]

I know. What a great voice. I love these. I love these.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's so funny. She had to walk her boyfriend. I think the boyfriend should have driven home with her. Or driven. I know she drove, but that's scary. That would have been scary driving alone. Have you had any. Have you had any experiences like that, Millie, where, like, after you see a movie in the theaters, you're, like, scared going back to your car?

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, I mean, I think I feel that way. I felt that way after I. Oh, what was the most recent movie that I saw that I felt that way? Yeah, it was after the podcast horror movie undertone. When I saw it, like, you know, I saw it like a couple weeks ago or a month ago or something. And I think I felt kind of creepy after the fact. And also like at my. At the movie theater that I always go to and I can't stop. It's a parking deck. And there are certain, certain parts that parking deck that are super desolate. Like the top, especially. And I'm always, like, scared to, like, this is actually like, like a dumb story. But there's also a bank that's right next to this movie theater. And what will happen is after bank hours, people will park at the bank, which you're not supposed to do, but people do it anyway. And there have been times where I've been like, no, I'm not going to be that person that illegally parks at the bank. Because what if somebody goes to the ATM? Like, it's a 24 hour ATM type of thing. But there have been times where if I. I'm going to the movies alone at night, I will park at that bank because I'm like, I'm not trying to go through that damn parking deck.

[Casey O'Brien]

So, yeah, I. I remember I saw the. The movie Nightcrawler with Jake Gyllenhaal in 2014. Oh, yeah. And it was a late showing, so I think I got out of there like, close to midnight. And the entire mall parking lot was deserted except for my car at, like, the far end. And I just remember being like, like running across the parking lot to get to my car.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That would be terrible. Okay. One car alone in a giant parking lot.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's what it was.

[Millie De Chirico]

Like, terrifying.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. So. Well, well, thank you, Nicole, for your movie date story. All right, this one's from Lindsay from Chicago.

[Lindsay]

Hi, Millie and Casey. My name is Lindsay from Chicago. I have a movie theater story for you. So it is 2007, and I am about to go on my very first date. I grew up in Indiana in a very, like, semi rural town called Fort Wayne. And there was nothing else to do but go to the movie theaters. So I set up my first date with this boy I liked. He was two years older than me.

[Jolene]

It was a big thing.

[Lindsay]

And the movie of the time, the biggest one was Juno, so. By Diablo Cody. But here's the kicker. My family would not let me go on a date alone. So I had to bring three of my friends along and three of his friends along. So if you picture the row of the theater, we are sitting next to each other and then there's three of our separate friends on either side of us. So we're all experiencing our first date together watching Juno. Kind of funny how it ended up. Ended up, I am queer now and he is queer now, and so is Elliot Page. So, you know, it's a very. It's a very beautiful tale how it all ended. Thanks, you guys.

[Casey O'Brien]

Amazing.

[Millie De Chirico]

I think obviously the moral of that story is that Michael Cera makes people gay. And it's infectious. And.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, it's like a ray gun.

[Millie De Chirico]

Okay, first of all, I love the, like, three friends each scenario. That is so funny. It's like a square dance circle.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's like the virgin suicides.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. Have. Did you. Okay, let me ask you this. Did your parents make you go out with, like, could you. First of all, did your parents let you date or know that you were dating? And if so, did they force you to bring people?

[Casey O'Brien]

There was no rules around that, really. I think I had, like, a little girlfriend when I was in, like, seventh grade and maybe eighth grade, but I wasn't. I was not a dater. Really?

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

I mean, I. They let me, but I wasn't, like, doing it that much, and so I didn't have to. Like, there was no rules stipulated, though, that I couldn't, you know, because I wasn't really asking to do it.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, I think I'm with you.

[Casey O'Brien]

What about you?

[Millie De Chirico]

Well, I think my parents were so convinced that I was gonna be this, like, hermetically sealed person that they were

[Casey O'Brien]

like Howard Hughes, and they were like,

[Millie De Chirico]

she will never date, so if she does hang out with guys, just let her. Just let her. And honestly, I never, like. I never had a scenario where I went on a date with, like. It was never like, I am going on my first date. Here's the person here. They. My parents know them. It was never that. It was like, I just would hang out with guys in groups, and maybe if something was. Sparks were flying, we would wander off for a while, but never, like, officially courted. I was never like, I'd like to take you out on a date. Let's go see Dream Warriors. It was never anything like that, you know?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. Well, I remember, like, when I was in, like, middle school and high school, like, there was not many places we could go. We'd go to the mall, you know, to hang out unmonitored. But also. So, like, I feel like there would be like, hey, we're all going to this movie on Friday. And there would be like, 20, like, a whole group, huge group of kids taking over a movie theater. Kind of like your Faces of Death screening, it sounds like. Maybe, but I remember one time I was sitting next to a girl that I kind of liked, and I was like, ooh, maybe I'll hold her hand during the movie. And a guy sat on the other side of her during the movie that I knew and she knew. And he said to her, he was like, hey, you want to go in the back and make up? She's like, yeah. And they left, went back, finger banged, probably. I don't know. I don't know what happened back there, but I remember being like, oh, man.

[Millie De Chirico]

Crushing. You know, I gotta tell you, that's. Something like that kind of happened to me, but it wasn't at the movies. It was at a fireworks extravaganza for the Fourth of July. Yeah, that's actually. Maybe I'll tell that story Some other time. It is so sad.

[Casey O'Brien]

This was not. This was more of a just like, oh, I think she's cute and I kind of like her. Maybe I'll hold her hand. You know, it was like. It wasn't like, like heartbreaking.

[Millie De Chirico]

Well, mine was.

[Casey O'Brien]

We'll have to hear that.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. One day I'll tell you when it's not a. Like, we're just talking about.

[Casey O'Brien]

Sure.

[Millie De Chirico]

Being idiots at any kind of love related thing. I'll tell the story.

[Casey O'Brien]

Here's the next one from Jolene.

[Jolene]

Hi, Millie and Casey. This is Jolene. Big fan of the podcast Day One listener. I'm here to share my movie date story. And mine is a good date story. First, a little tiny bit of background. I grew up in a small town where there was just one movie theater. And when you went to the movies, you went in, you sat down, you were quiet, you watched the movie, and then you went home. That was it. So when I went to college, I went to a little bit bigger city where there were multiple movie theaters, much bigger theaters. And in 1991, I went on a date with a guy for the first date and he took me to the movies and we went to see Silence of the Lambs. Now I was not a fan of scary movies or horror movies or anything like that, so I didn't really know what to think, but I thought, sure, we'll give it a try. This guy was really cute and I was very excited about the date. So we went to the theater and the one we were in was huge. It was absolutely packed with people. I don't think there was an empty seat in there. So there were all these people. And as the movie is show, people are screaming, people are yelling things at the screen, people are jumping and wiggling around in their chairs. And I was one of those people too. I totally got into it and was vibing with the movie along with everyone else. And I still remember that as being my absolute favorite movie experience of all time. I loved the movie even though it was pretty scary, but it was just that experience of enjoying the movie and interacting with the movie with all of these other people. I have absolutely no memory of the guy or what happened. I don't think I ever went on another date with him, but that was my favorite movie experience. So thanks for all you do and take care. Bye.

[Millie De Chirico]

Love that.

[Casey O'Brien]

You know, a good movie theater going experience, that's. That's more important than romance, you know?

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, I do think that. And considering how many bad movie experiences I've ever had in the theater. When 1. When I can just see a movie to completion. That's a win, I think, for me, at this point.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

And then if it's like this fun.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's been a challenge for you lately.

[Millie De Chirico]

I swear to God, I don't like. I mean, I should. It's like going back to the restaurant that has given you food poisoning over and over again. It's like you're just like, why do I keep. It's just the Poke Bowl. Is that good? I don't know. But yet. Yet.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh, my God.

[Millie De Chirico]

The best. Okay. I can remember one of the best movie theater experiences I've ever had, and it was when I saw Purple Rain at the Plaza. Everybody was fucking ignited. Everybody was dancing and singing in the aisles. People were going fucking ape shit crazy. It was so fun. And then at the very end, you know how it ends? It ends on the. Oh, the still. Right.

[Listener G]

Of.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes.

[Millie De Chirico]

It was. It was like euphoric screams of like. It was like the entire movie had an orgasm together. And it was awesome. It was like. I will never forget that. And that was many years ago. That was probably like 10 years ago. It was so fun. So fun.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's great. Jolene. I can tell you're from the Midwest.

[Millie De Chirico]

How?

[Listener H]

How?

[Casey O'Brien]

You didn't write that in your letter, but I would bet a thousand dollars you're from Minnesota. South Dakota.

[Millie De Chirico]

How do you know?

[Casey O'Brien]

How do you know North Dakota? I could tell.

[Millie De Chirico]

What do you mean? How?

[Casey O'Brien]

I could. Just the way she talked. She's one of. She's one of us. I could tell.

[Millie De Chirico]

Okay.

[Casey O'Brien]

She was like, I'm here, Jolene. I could heal. I could tell. Okay, right in, Jolene. Let me know. Let me know if I got that right. All right, next up. All right, here's one from Carol.

[Carol]

What's up, Millie and Casey. Okay, so you guys asked for movie date stories, and, well, I'm a listener from North Carolina, and I'm a really big horror movie fanatic. So when Nosferatu came out this past year, I was desperate to go and see it. So I had recently been broken up with by my ex boyfriend.

[Millie De Chirico]

Good riddance. But

[Carol]

basically, I had gone with one of my old college friends, and we had had a fling, like, way back when, and we ended up up, like, making out for like, the entire last 30 minutes of the movie. And I thought to myself, okay, well, I'll just come back to the theater and see it again. So I brought another one of my friends, may or may not have been an old professor of mine, but we ended up going to Nosferatu, and, well, I thought that I was going to watch the rest of the movie, and I ended up doing the exact same thing. So I have gone to go see Nosferatu twice in theaters, and instead of watching the last 30 minutes, I decided to make out with two different guys for the last 30 minutes. So I am kicking myself because I currently have a wonderful boyfriend, and I'm very excited to eventually watch Nosferatu with him and not make out during the last 30 minutes. I already know what happens, what happens for the rest of the movie, so. So, yeah, ta da.

[Listener G]

That's my story.

[Carol]

Okay, you guys have a great rest of your day. Thanks for listening. Love what you guys do.

[Millie De Chirico]

Bye

[Casey O'Brien]

now. This is what I'm talking about. This is an incredible story. A declaration. Carol, you're a hero. I love this. This is our first makeout story, which is great.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

I love that she made out with two different guys at the exact same part. This is another kind of secret.

[Millie De Chirico]

Is it one of them is her professor.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, a former professor.

[Millie De Chirico]

Huge.

[Casey O'Brien]

Wow. Huge, huge, huge. This was incredible. It was horny. I loved it. This is also the second story we've gotten with someone using a movie for date. Multiple dates with different guys, you know, the same movie. So that's an interesting trend I'm seeing here.

[Millie De Chirico]

Okay, so what is it about for her, specifically for Carol in North Carolina, Runtime of Nosferatu is 132 minutes. What is about an hour and two minutes into Nosferatu that. That got her horned up twice?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, we gotta look. We gotta look at the. We gotta pull up the movie and go to that time signature and see what's going on there.

[Millie De Chirico]

Is that when, like, Bill Skarsgard, you, like, see how ripped Nosferatu is or something? Is there like, some kind of, like, dick reveal or something?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, great question, Great question. I don't remember exactly how that lines up up, but, yeah, we got to get to the bottom of this.

[Millie De Chirico]

I'm about to actually zipre the out of this. I gotta know.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, incredible.

[Millie De Chirico]

I'm gonna do it. I won't do it right now because we're recording a podcast, but once it's.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, be careful, Millie. You don't want to put that. You don't want to look at that portion of the film, you know, in the company of someone you might make out with, too. Just be careful with that. It's potent is what I'm saying.

[Millie De Chirico]

Dude, I am horribly alone in this house. I'm just gonna be like, oh, okay. What are people doing with the I? Am I normal? Because I don't have a boyfriend to make out with during the hour and two minute mark. I'm honestly, I'm like genuinely curious, but also too. I think I'm with you. I see. Now I'm feeling weird. Like I'm like. Should I be like triple dipping on dates like this?

[Listener G]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

Why the not everyone's in a situationship. Who cares?

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. Make sure it's a movie you like to see too, because you don't want to be just.

[Millie De Chirico]

What if I went and saw is Wuthering Heights out of the movies right now?

[Casey O'Brien]

That's a great question. By the time the skin room gets revealed, that's the makeout. That's the makeout time.

[Millie De Chirico]

I think honestly I not to give you too much info on me, but I mean I'd be like, when's the finger banging scenes? Let's see.

[Casey O'Brien]

I mean of course, what happens there? The horniest.

[Millie De Chirico]

I don't make out in movies, but maybe, you know, there's a promise that's whispered.

[Casey O'Brien]

A whisper? Yes.

[Millie De Chirico]

Hey, after the movie this part, let's remember it for later.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, let's make out in the lobby right after. I love doing that.

[Millie De Chirico]

Let's go to McGuffins and hold hands and let's like, you know, shove our tongues down each other's throats at a giant picture of Chris Pratt as an avenger.

[Casey O'Brien]

Meet me at McGuffins.

[Millie De Chirico]

You know. You know, many times I've had the craziest affairs at McGuffins.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh my God, the bartender at McGuffins is like covering for you, for all the men you bring in. Millie, we don't see you. We never come by anymore. You know how they do.

[Millie De Chirico]

It's like Alo Rudolph's choose me. He just like, yeah, tends the bar real soft and like he's wiping the bar off of the McGuffins and he's like, you again. Let me guess.

[Casey O'Brien]

God, this is good. We got to go to McGuffins. We should do a live show. Adam McGuffins. Wouldn't that be good? AMC, hook it up.

[Millie De Chirico]

Listen, we'll record a live podcast of the McGuffins. Everybody can sit on the floor.

[Casey O'Brien]

We can do it without their permission. Even a secret podcast. Uh, alright, here's another one. Dear Millie and Casey. I love you guys. Millie, I'm a few years older than you, but I feel like we could be besties. I too was a teenage edgelord. And honestly, I probably still Am and Casey. I'm obsessed. Y' all make me look forward to Tuesdays. So thank you. I'm writing to share not a movie date theater date story, but a video rental store meet cute gone horribly wrong. Alright, let's see how this goes. My story takes place in Orlando in 1988. Back then, if you wanted to rent a punk rock shithead movie like Liquid Sky, Eraserhead or Suburban Suburbia, your best bet was the local record store where they kept a small shelf of obscure VHS tapes behind the register. I think I rented every single movie on that shelf at Wax Tree Records. One day I had just rented a movie and was walking out when two black leather hotties came strolling in. I locked eyes with a very tall Sid Vicious presenting fellow and he made my heart go pitter patter. A few days later, when I returned the tape, there was a note for me taped to the shelf from Mr. Vicious himself, who is actually named Jay. Turns out the feelings were mutual. So I gave him a call and we made plans to rent a movie and hang out. I picked him up in my little yellow Gremlin with the rusted out floorboards and we went back to the record store to rent a movie. I think it was Repo Man. Then we went back to my house to watch it. We sat nervously on the sofa and watched the movie with very little conversation. After the movie, we went outside to smoke cigarettes in the driveway. One thing led to another and we started making out. I suggested we move to the car in case my dad came outside. So he crammed into the Gremlin and resumed smooching. When we finally took a break, I checked my reflection in the rearview mirror and to my horror, my face was covered in blood. I started panicking, thinking something was seriously wrong with me, like I was bleeding internally. Just then, Jay sheepishly apologized and said he thought thought the blood was from him. His gingivitis. He had bleeding gums. I immediately started gagging and thoughting I was going to puke. I kicked him out of my car and did not drive him home. I have no idea where he went and I never saw or heard from him again. I'm pretty sure I also shamed him at the record store. The moral of the story, if I can call it that, is that I developed a deep appreciation for oral hygiene. I asked my dad for an electric toothbrush and a water pick for my 17. It even came with extra heads, which I assigned to my best friend so we could all have clean teeth and healthy gums. True story. There's a photo of me and my three death punk pre goth best friends brushing our teeth together after my birthday party. And to this day, my dental hygienist says I have the cleanest mouth she's ever seen. I hope you enjoyed my little walk down memory lane and that I didn't gross you out too much. I do have a movie question for you. I just listened to your Oscars episode and you kept referring to Jean. Genre movies. Can you define what exactly a genre movie is and what isn't a genre movie? Thanks for always being there every Tuesday. And remember to brush your teeth and floss your friend. G. That is good. That was a good story.

[Millie De Chirico]

Good Lord. Nasty, nasty. Very oopy. Goopy.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yes, Cronenberg would be delighted.

[Millie De Chirico]

Oh, man. What is it? What are your thoughts on that? Like bleeding at some point, someone's mouth.

[Casey O'Brien]

That's horrific. I would, that would be, that's a, that's a tough one to get past, I would say. Oh, God, his teeth is. It's just disgusting. I mean, it's a little tough making out after cigarette smoking too, you know, there's a lot going on there.

[Millie De Chirico]

Says you.

[Casey O'Brien]

Says me.

[Millie De Chirico]

Like, listen, sometimes after a bit of wine and a few cigarettes, maybe that's the few darts. The best, best make out of all.

[Listener H]

I,

[Millie De Chirico]

I feel like it is a. I don't want to be like, no blood. No way. Because stuff happens. Body is the body. But there's something about the mouth that just, it just feels. Because it feels. It's a mouth. It's constantly wet and moist and it's like, it feels like it's just, just waiting for bacteria to infect. And I don't know if I could get there. I don't know if there's a second date or anything after my mouth is bleeding. Because your mouth was bleeding and it wasn't like my tongue ring cut you or something. You know, it wasn't like happening in the moment. It was happening before we even started making out. I. Nasty. Oh, boy. I don't know. I, I it. The nastiness is what, you know, I mean, it technically did not happen in a movie theater. Yes. But there is a It can stay extra bit of horror that made that.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

Very special.

[Casey O'Brien]

And do you want to answer the genre movie question? Because I think that is something that some people don't. It's a little confusing.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. Yes.

[Casey O'Brien]

What a genre film is and what you define as a genre film and you used to be on the board for the American Was it American genre film Archive.

[Millie De Chirico]

Agfa. Yeah, for short, I consider a genre movie. I think it's mostly used as a way to talk about movies that are not broad dramas or comedies. Even though people do like. There are some people that consider a comedy film to be a genre movie, which I don't really think that that's true. I think that when you're talking about a genre movie, you're talking about stuff like horror, action, sci fi, adventure. Like, because basically what has happened is there's. The term has been used by people who are kind of in the cult movie, exploitation world as a way to be like, these are movies that are about. That have just like elements to them that are either crime, sci fi, horror, you know, noir. I would say thrillers, anything that's like not, you know, something's gotta give, I guess.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, I would say they do reside outside the mainstream a lot of the times. And yeah, what you just said, it's like horror, sci fi, extreme violent movies,

[Millie De Chirico]

like action, experimental, like animation sometimes. Anyway, I think that's when I use the term genre movie. That's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about anything that isn't kind of like. Like your mainstream drama or comedy.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, Well, I used to produce a podcast called Switchblade Sisters and we had people come on and talk about genre movies. Their favorite genre movies. And how I would always pitch it is like a genre movie is horror, sci fi, Fantasy, Western. Western, yeah. So like something along those lines. It's you. It usually is. I would say horror. Sci fi is usually the. Mostly what people refer to when you're saying.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, or crime and action. A lot of times, like, you know, over the top kind of stuff.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, they're kind of like over the top movies. I mean, like women in prison films, like that type of movie is a genre movie, you know. All right, we got a few more here. Let's do it. This is from Jennifer.

[Jennifer]

Hi, Millie and Casey. My name is Jennifer and I am calling to share a bad date at the movies story with everyone. It starts off at a restaurant. This guy Tom was my waiter and he spent a lot of time at my table and he was flirting with me and then he asked me out and then he got fired because of course he did. And so I went out with him a few nights later and he took me to see Iron Eagle 2. And that's not something I'd want to go see on purpose. But anyway, we went to see it and when we came out of the movies, his passenger side window had been smashed in and There was glass all over the seat because somebody did a smash and grab on his radar detector, which was a big thing to have in the 80s. Anyway, so I had to ride home in a police car because there was glass all over the car. And then he called me up a few nights later and he's like, hey, you want to go out this weekend? And I was like, well, let's see, you got fired. I rode home in a police car. So I think the only thing that could happen next is you will die. So I'm just going to have to say no. Anyway, thanks you guys. I just love listening to your. Your podcast. Have a great day.

[Lindsay]

Bye.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, this is exactly Jennifer.

[Millie De Chirico]

This is my type of shit right here. I wonder if it was a Ford Bronco. I wonder if they smashed the. The window of Ford Bronco, grabbed the radar thing off the dash. They were like, these two see an Iron Eagle two starring Louis Gossett Jr. They don't give a shit. We're out here. We need to sell this at the pawn shop that's down by Highway 204. Fuck it, right?

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh my God.

[Millie De Chirico]

They'll just probably have to rent Iron Eagle 2 on Betamax if they want to, you know, finish it and think. And think about the messaging of it. They're lucky we didn't steal the CB out of there because we could have fucking fucked their night up big time.

[Casey O'Brien]

I must admit, I've never heard of Iron Eagle too.

[Millie De Chirico]

What the.

[Casey O'Brien]

Had to look it up.

[Millie De Chirico]

It's like you don't remember Iron Eagle the movie?

[Casey O'Brien]

I don't.

[Millie De Chirico]

Sorry. This like I. I don't know if it's. Cuz my dad was in the military and I just.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, I think that might have something to do.

[Millie De Chirico]

I just passively knew about Air Force movies.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah.

[Millie De Chirico]

But this is. I know. I don't even know who the. Who was the white dude in Iron Eagle. Oh, this was a tristar movie. Of course. I. Jason Tristar Getric. Jason Gedrick. I'm sure somebody out there who is listening to us, probably a gay man, knows exactly what Jason Getrick is doing right now. I can get. I could almost guarantee it. I could almost fucking guarantee it. If you do, you can email [e-mail] Please, please.

[Casey O'Brien]

Oh my God. All right, let's move on to this next one. This might be our last one here.

[Millie De Chirico]

Okay.

[Casey O'Brien]

Okay, here we go. This is from Jessica.

[Jessica]

Hi, Millie and Casey. My name is Jess and I'm a day one. I saw what you did, listener. Turn Day one Dear Movies, I love you listener, but this is my first time writing into a podcast ever. This is a movie date story and maybe also a movie gripe. Before I get into it, Casey, I just wanted to acknowledge that I also competed in high school drama, debate and forensics. Your discussion with Paul Rusk made me nostalgic immediately. Millie, like you, I am a big Pat Conroy fan and I appreciate you featuring his works on the pod. Getting into the story, you need to understand that I was a very good girl in high school. Like I had straight A's and I never broke the rules. I did have a boyfriend named John and he was also a very good kid. He was my boyfriend, but I can't say he was my first love. He was just a good friend who was my first kiss and he would hold my hand while we watched movies together. Anyway, when we were 16 years old, we decided that we were going to rebel by buying a ticket for a PG13 movie and then sneaking into an R rated movie. I wish I could remember what the PG13 movie was, but I clearly remember that the R rated movie we picked was the 2009 Adam Sandler and Seth Rogen film Funny People. It was directed by Judd Apatow, who I loved for making Freaks and Geeks because I was an athlete and identified with Lindsay Weir's conflicted good Girl character. So we snuck into Funny People, but instead of seeing a hilarious filthy romp like we expected, we actually saw a bleak existential reflection on death, infidelity and stand up comedy. In the early aughts. We walked out with such a sense of dread and anxiety and we were sure that we were going to get caught for what we had done. We never did, but neither of us would say that movie was a worthwhile risk. To be fair, I rewatched the movie before writing in and it definitely hits better now that I'm in my 30s. Maybe next I'll watch Is this Thing on as a Double Feature? Thank you for this wonderful podcast that has been such a constant in my life. Even if I don't make the cut, I'll probably write in again in the future. My area of expertise is movies with women doctors as love interests and I need you both to settle a family debate about whether Bram Stoker's Dracula with Keanu Reeves is actually a good movie. Love you both.

[Millie De Chirico]

Jess well, first of all, this is a classic teen going into seeing, you know, some kid movie and then sneaking into a much racier movie. And then the funny thing is, is that I think I even remember when I would do this.

[Listener H]

This.

[Millie De Chirico]

I don't know why. The R rated movie was just such a bore.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, it's like a let down. You think it's going to be like insane and it's like you think you're

[Millie De Chirico]

gonna be watching Cannibal Holocaust, but then you're like, oh, it's just a Judd Apatow black comedy or whatever.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, you want to see Sallow and it's. Yeah, it's just an adult.

[Millie De Chirico]

I think it was like, I swear to God, I think I remember something along the lines of, you know, going to try to like wanting to go see something adult and then leaving, you know, something for kids and then being going into seeing like a Robert Redford movie. Something like real, like adult in the sense that it's for adults. But nothing shocking. It was just like a, like Legal Eagles or some shit like that.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You think you're going to go see like the Last Tango in Paris and you're seeing like Brideshead Revisited or something like.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, people are wearing knickers. They're like, we this up so bad.

[Casey O'Brien]

A room with a view or something like that. Like, this sucks.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah. People are like technically having sex, but it's like underneath giant dresses with crinoline and shit. You're like, oh God, yeah, bloomers are involved. No chocolates. Like, I don't know. Like actually chocolate's pretty rough right now.

[Casey O'Brien]

I think chocolate's pretty tame. I think that's a PG13.

[Millie De Chirico]

Sinfully delicious is what it says on the poster.

[Casey O'Brien]

So that last one there from Jess, that was our last one, Millie. We got through all. That's going to be the end of our date episode. We didn't get to all of them, but we, we appreciate everyone who called and wrote in. It was really fun getting to read and listen to all of your date stories. We had to slim it down a little bit just because there was too many to fit into one episode. So if we didn't get to your email or your story, I'm sorry. But we did listen to all of them and we really appreciate all of the people who submitted.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah, I'm glad we did it too. And it was really nice to hear from all you guys and especially like when you speak with your voices.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. It's fun to get to hear people.

[Millie De Chirico]

Yeah.

[Casey O'Brien]

And like hear where they're at. And it's fun hearing people from all over the country, all over the world, you know. Well, that's it, Millie. We're done.

[Millie De Chirico]

We are finito Finito.

[Casey O'Brien]

Yeah. If you want to write in in the future for film advice or if you got a gripe grope or grip consensual group, by the way, write into dear moviesexactlyrightmedia.com and if you want to send us a voicemail like all these lovely people did, record on your phone, keep it under a minute, record in a quiet place and send it to dearMoviesactlyRightMedia.com that is right.

[Millie De Chirico]

Follow us on social media, why don't you? Dear movies, I love you. On Instagram and Facebook. We are also on letterboxd individually. Our handles are Casey Lee o' Brien at M. De Cho and listen to Dear Movies, I love you on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts. Wherever you get your podcast, do us a favor. Please rate us five stars. Review our show positively. And I also find that there's a technique where people are rating the show high but then leaving a bad review, which I'm kind of like, I love that. Well, I'm kind of like, well, I guess you're helping with the star rating. But then you say something shitty, whatever, like it is what it is. But I'm just saying, you know, you could leave us a nice review and a five star rating. That'd be the best.

[Listener H]

Yes.

[Casey O'Brien]

We don't need to hear that stuff.

[Millie De Chirico]

I don't want to hear anything hurts our feelings. I don't want to hear anything negative. While I'm having a beer with my boy Casey at McGuffins, I'm trying to

[Casey O'Brien]

down a few martinis, forget about my day. I'm reading bad reviews online. I have to order another martini.

[Millie De Chirico]

Let's get serious. This is where when we get a bad review, you and I hit the bar at McGuffins and we are pounding drinks all fucking night, drowning away the sorrows of a bad review.

[Casey O'Brien]

Gus, the fedora wearing bartender hates to see us coming in. He knows he's in for a long night. Anyways, Millie, what are we talking about next week?

[Millie De Chirico]

Let's see next week. Oh, boy, this is on my shame list. I have never seen this movie before and damn it, I am shamed. Shamed by it.

[Casey O'Brien]

This is gonna be interesting. I'm gonna be interested in your take on this one.

[Millie De Chirico]

Well, we are going to watch tank girl from 1995. I think we decided to watch this movie because it's on Blu Ray for the first time and we're excited to see it. I certainly want to now that it's on Blu Ray because I didn't see it in the 90s.

[Casey O'Brien]

It's the vinegar syndrome release.

[Millie De Chirico]

That's right.

[Casey O'Brien]

They're releasing it. And maybe I'll pick this up. Maybe I'll purchase this one.

[Millie De Chirico]

Ooh, good plan.

[Casey O'Brien]

Well, that's about it. Thank you everybody again for submitting your stories. It was really fun. And Millie, I'll see you later.

[Millie De Chirico]

See you at McGuffins.

[Casey O'Brien]

See you at McGuffins.

[Millie De Chirico]

Bye.

[Casey O'Brien]

Bye.

[Millie De Chirico]

This has been an exactly right production. Hosted by me, Millie Dicerico, and produced by my co host, Casey o'.

[Jessica]

Brien.

[Casey O'Brien]

This episode was mixed by Tom Breifogel. Our associate producer is Christina Chamberlain. Our guest booker is Patrick Cotner, and our artwork is by Vanessa Lilac.

[Millie De Chirico]

Our incredible theme music is by the best band in the entire world, the Softies.

[Casey O'Brien]

Thank you to our executive producers, Karen Kilgarith, Georgia Hardstark, Daniel Kramer and Millie de Chirico. We love you. Goodbye.

[Millie De Chirico]

Be kind.

[Casey O'Brien]

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