The Loose Cookie Grift

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Podcast Summary: "The Loose Cookie Grift"

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Episode: The Loose Cookie Grift
Release Date: October 17, 2024
Hosts: Millie De Chirico and Danielle Henderson
Network: Exactly Right Podcast Network

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1. Halloween Decorations and Early Setup

The episode kicks off with Millie and Danielle diving into the topic of Halloween decorations, discussing the challenges and timing associated with setting them up.

• Millie (00:21): "Do you decorate early or are you kind of like an October 1st person?"

• Danielle (00:43): "If you're gonna do it, you should put them up October 1st because putting them up for one day does not make sense."

They contemplate the logistics of storing decorations and the effort involved in both setting them up and taking them down, especially when no trick-or-treaters are present in their neighborhoods.

2. The Big Skeleton Phenomenon

Transitioning from general decorations, the hosts discuss a New York Times article about families becoming committed to large Halloween decorations once they make the initial investment.

• Millie (01:56): "This big skeleton was the tipping point for their Halloween decorating commitment."

• Danielle (03:40): "Why would you want to not keep that as secure as possible, especially during hurricane season?"

They express skepticism about the stability of these oversized decorations and the impracticality of maintaining them single-handedly.

3. Memes, Videos, and Societal Commentary

The conversation shifts to Millie requesting Danielle to stop sending her memes featuring a "hot Scottish guy" named Daniel Henderson, who shares millennial perspectives on marriage and self-worth.

• Millie (04:12): "You gotta stop sending me memes of that hot Scottish guy telling me exactly what I want to hear."

• Danielle (07:19): "We shouldn't be lowering our fucking standards anymore."

They critique the message that pressures single women into believing marriage is the ultimate goal, labeling it an archaic patriarchal holdover.

4. Listener Engagement: "Serial Killer or Self-Care" Game

Millie and Danielle introduce a segment where they respond to listener emails and voicemails, specifically focusing on the game "Serial Killer or Self-Care" (SKOS).

4.1. Art TVs and Hidden TVs

• Millie (16:03): Responds to the idea of disguising TVs as art, finding it corny.

• Danielle (16:26): "I don't want to be the person who pretends I don't watch TV. It's okay, people."

They humorously debate whether such actions signify maladaptive behaviors or simply personal choices.

4.2. Mixing Alcohol with Probiotics

• Danielle (20:00): "Fucking serial killer. Are you kidding me?"

Millie and Danielle express disdain for unconventional drink combinations, emphasizing the clash between health trends and alcohol consumption.

4.3. Buying Organic Produce During Self-Checkout

• Millie (25:20): "I feel like the 20 cents that they lose by people who ring up a non-organic banana is recouped by some other thing."

They discuss the ethical and practical implications of manipulating self-checkout systems to save money, jokingly categorizing it as self-care.

4.4. Scented Trash Bags

• Danielle (31:19): "Why are you putting dog shit in your kitchen trash bag?"

Millie enjoys scented trash bags for their subtle odor masking, while Danielle vehemently opposes them, advocating for natural odor control methods.

5. Voicemail Fun: Hannibal Lecter’s Culinary Inquiry

A humorous voicemail from a listener posing as Hannibal Lecter adds a spooky twist to the episode.

• Hannibal (36:36): "Have you ever come across a specific film whose cuisine you found specifically delectable?"

Millie and Danielle laugh over the eerie voice memo, discussing favorite movies that feature memorable food scenes.

6. Listener FMK (Fuck, Marry, Kill) from Tacoma

Millie and Danielle engage in an FMK game based on a listener’s email, evaluating characters from various films.

• Millie (51:27): "I am definitely fucking Sam Elliott in Mask."

• Danielle (53:25): "I'm going to fuck Bob Hoskins in Mermaids."

They debate the attractiveness and relational traits of characters, providing entertaining insights into their preferences.

7. Closing Remarks and Listener Participation

Wrapping up the episode, Millie and Danielle encourage listeners to engage by sending emails, voicemails, and participating in games for future episodes. They provide contact information and promote merchandise available through the Exactly Right network.

• Millie (56:15): "If you want to email us, we are at I saw what you [e-mail]."

• Danielle (56:43): "You can find all of our contact info on our link tree which is on all of our social media."

They conclude with festive Halloween wishes, signing off the bonus episode on a high note.

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Key Takeaways:

• Seasonal Decor Challenges: The hosts explore the practicality and social aspects of Halloween decorations, emphasizing timing and community engagement.

• Critique of Societal Norms: A significant portion addresses the pressure on single women regarding marriage, highlighting the need to maintain personal standards against patriarchal influences.

• Interactive Segments: Engaging games like "Serial Killer or Self-Care" and FMK foster listener interaction, blending humor with relatable scenarios.

• Humorous and Critical Commentary: Through playful banter, Millie and Danielle offer both humor and critical analysis of everyday behaviors and societal expectations.

• Listener Engagement: Active participation from listeners through emails and voicemails enriches the content, making the podcast interactive and community-driven.

This episode, "The Loose Cookie Grift," seamlessly blends humor, critique, and listener engagement, providing an entertaining and thought-provoking experience for both regular listeners and newcomers.

Transcript

[A]

Foreign. Hey, everybody. Welcome. Welcome to a bonus episode of I saw what you did. My name is Millie de Chirico.

[B]

I'm Danielle Henderson.

[A]

We have a task today which is providing you with a bonus. We're very, very close to Halloween. Not quite there yet. Have you like, what's your timeline for decorating? Do you decorate early? Early or are you kind of like a October 1st?

[B]

I decorate at all? Yeah, I don't decorate. I know. My house is perfect for Halloween, I was gonna say, but I. I've never been a decorator. I don't know.

[A]

Huh. Yeah, it's a lot like once you start it, man, it's really. You gotta like find a place to.

[B]

Store it and the putting up and taking down of it. So especially for Halloween, I feel like if you're gonna do it, you should put them up October 1st because putting them up for one day does not make sense. But it's a lot of work and nobody gets to really see them where I am.

[A]

Yeah, that's true. So. Yeah, I mean, I don't even get trick or treaters in my neighborhood. Yeah. I don't know, I was thinking maybe if you don't do Halloween. Do you like a fall festival vibe? I guess not, no.

[B]

I don't do anything. I just live. I just live. I mean, I live in a fall festival vibe.

[A]

Yeah, you live in Halloween 24 7, I guess.

[B]

And we have an actual apple fest. Like an actual apple festival every October. The one ours just happened a couple weeks ago. Yeah, but no, I just kind of. I enjoy other people's decorations one day. I might be a decorator, but for now it just feels like polishing a turd to decorate my house for any holiday.

[A]

Yeah, No, I was just reading this. This like New York Times writer was talking about how I guess him and his family have been pretty agnostic when it came to Halloween decorating, but then they randomly bought like the 15 foot skeleton that they make and. And now he's like this. Just like now it's been a turning point in my life. Like now I'm always going to bring this thing out. Meaning that like the, the big skeleton was the tipper of the scales for their.

[B]

Yeah, I mean if you get the big skeleton, you got to. You can't just put the big skeleton in your yard. You got to put all the stuff around it.

[A]

Well, and I, I guess my question, that's like a three person job. You can't be a single person living alone with a. Like, how do you manage to get that in the air.

[B]

Well then are you. If you're asking people to come over and help you assemble it. Is it like a pizza and beer situation? Is it like, it's like help asking someone to help to help you move? I feel like that's a big deal thing.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, all my bros have back problems, so I'm like, no one's coming over to put up the skeleton. I can't even understand how it stays upright without, you know, cables. Don't you have to like, like tie it to like it's got to be braced in some way.

[B]

I've seen them just loose, loosey goosey. I've seen them just loosey goose. I don't understand it either. I don't understand the infrastructure. I don't know if there's like a rod. I know that the ones that I see that are kind of loosey goosey and not attached to a house or near anything, have a little bend in their knee.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like they're really, they're bending those knees. So maybe that's it.

[A]

But I wouldn't trust those high winds.

[B]

Absolutely not. See some fucking tibia come flying at you across the road?

[A]

No. And like in the south, like, like this time of year is like hurricane season. So why would you, you know, why would you want to not keep that as secure as possible?

[B]

Why take people? I mean, I've seen those, those big blow up inflatable pumpkins rolling down the road.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you got, you got to brace them. You got to have those tent stakes or whatever. Don't, don't skip that part of the instructions is all I'm saying. Like, you got to brace those things.

[A]

I totally agree. But speaking of living alone, I need to talk to you about something.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Right now I want to need you to stop sending me memes of that hot Scottish guy telling me exactly what I want to hear. You gotta stop.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

You know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about.

[B]

Oh, I do a little. He. Yeah, he has. We have the same name. His name is Daniel Henderson.

[A]

That's. I get. I guess I didn't notice that. I was too busy, like wondering how God has created such a perfect individual.

[B]

He. Did I send you the one where. I don't think I sent you this one. Maybe I did. Maybe this is why you want me to stop. Where he was talking about, he's like, oh, women, when you wear like the tight fitting dresses and you have the little belly pooch, it's really sexy. And he's like, it's not Cute. It's not adorable. It's absolutely sexy. I live for it.

[A]

I know. And I listen. Besides you. He will pop up on social media sometimes. Like, his videos. Like, he talked about, you know, having, like, thigh chafing once. And I was like, is this AI designed to make me crazy? Like, why, what's he. Why is he saying everything that is perfect for me? Like, I don't understand. Like, here's this, this guy that has absolutely the best, most evolved taste of any man on planet Earth, basically.

[B]

I know. I, I don't trust it. I gotta say. I don't fully trust it.

[A]

I, I, I, I. This is the thing in my, like, again, in my new iteration. I want to give people the benefit of the doubt. I want to. I want to believe that he is this incredible, thoughtful, evolved person.

[B]

But I'm.

[A]

I, I just in the back of my mind, I'm like, what's this all about? Like, is this, like, a brand? Is this a brand? So the thing that you sent me, which none of you know because she literally just said it to me, like, what, 30 minutes before we press record, was this whole, like, monologue about single women in their 40s and about how you're an asshole for feeling sorry for them or thinking that they're sad or there's something wrong with them, you know? And, like, you know, the whole setup of the video is like, maybe they just don't like someone enough to have gotten married to them. Maybe they'd rather focus on their passions and their hobbies. And it's like, every little bullet point that he had, I was just like, why? She sent me this right now? What's going on? She knows how I'm gonna react. Why am I getting this video right now before we record?

[B]

Because I thought you would resonate. It would resonate with you.

[A]

That's what I'm talking about, is it's resonating with me too much to where I'm just like, I can't talk to another man who doesn't believe all this stuff.

[B]

That's the point. We shouldn't be lowering our fucking standards anymore.

[A]

Yeah, I. Listen, I, I'm joking aside, I totally agree with him. Like, I'm just like. I would like to call him on the telephone and be like, you made very, very succinct, very, you know, important points here, sir. And I. And I agree with all of. All of them, because I don't believe that about me at all.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know.

[B]

Well, precisely.

[A]

So most of it's not even. Yeah, I mean, it's not even coming from like a, I need to defend my choices because this is how I am. Or some kind of like weird feeling of like trying to, to like, I just truly believe that like not everyone is supposed to be married like at the time that they're supposed to be married, if at all. Yeah, like, yeah, at all. And so I'm just like. And I feel like there were, there were times in his video where he was basically like, you know, oh, you know, you're, you know, why do you think that this, this woman is broken or damaged and all this stuff? And I'm like, yeah, when did that happen? Because I don't understand that at all. Like, I know so many people who aren't married in this age. So I'm just like, there's no truth to any of it. And he's absolutely correct.

[B]

It's a very archaic holdover of the patriarchy that people don't examine enough in themselves. But still for some reason fully believe that marriage is the ultimate expression of life and progress. And it just isn't. It just isn't. An I've been married and I'm telling you, it just isn't. But I also think that like, I agree with you that I don't need the validation for my lifestyle or my choices. I really don't need the validation. I don't give a fuck what people think about my life. But it is nice to hear someone who is not a single 40 year old woman talking about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In the same way that I was excited or at least it made me feel a little bit better and more connected to the world when people who were not black started talking about police violence against black people. I'm like, oh, I'm not crazy. Someone else finally sees it, you know, like that kind. So it makes me happy to hear someone who's not in my group of people, so to speak, talking about things that affect us in a really smart way. And yeah, funny, because he's Scottish. So at one point he says something like, are you happy? Are you?

[A]

That is probably the most unfortunate cherry on this beautiful Sunday is that he's Scottish. I'm just like, oh my God, like this is bad.

[B]

So great.

[A]

Am I booking a trip to Scotland like right now? Do they all believe this if you're Scottish?

[B]

No, they do not.

[A]

Okay. I was going to say because we, we have Scottish listeners not to brag, but we do. And so I was just curious if this was like a thing that existed for, you know, a lot of folks or if this is just one unicorn of a man.

[B]

I think he's just a unicorn of a man. I've dated a Scottish guy. I've been to Scotland. This was not the prevailing attitude that I encountered there, but I do think it's there more than it is here.

[A]

Yeah, I must live in a bubble because I don't believe any of that shit. Like, I don't really, I really don't. Like, I'm just like. I don't know if it's just because I've completely. I don't know, I just, I. Maybe I've like walked through the bubble. Like the Zardoz bubble, where I'm like, on the other side of the Zardoz land now. And I didn't even know it. Cause I just was like, living my life and I'm like, yeah, man. Like, I really, I don't believe any of that fucked up, like, marriage is the answer. You're broken without it. Shit. Like, I'm like, I don't know. So I'm loving this guy. Like, when I'm telling you, stop sending me videos. I mean, just keep sending me videos. But I. But I framed it in a way that suggests that maybe my brain is gonna explode if I keep watching him say great stuff.

[B]

I'll pace it out like one every quarter. But it is, it is just nice to hear someone else voice the thing that you already know.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. I feel like. I don't know. Social media is always like, so there's always somebody forward facing making a video telling you about your life. And a lot of times, yeah, you're just kind of like, where is this coming from? Like, who is the person that's actually telling me that I'm okay? But I like it when it's somebody you wouldn't expect.

[B]

Have I ever sent you a Will Hitchens video?

[A]

No.

[B]

Oh, bitch, you're gonna get even more angry at me.

[A]

Uh oh. Uh oh.

[B]

Will Hitchens is a very smart, very eloquent, very funny guy who talks a lot about and does, like, video takedowns of like, alpha male bullshit podcasts and videos and shit like that. He is also gorgeous and Australian.

[A]

Oh boy, oh boy. What's going on? What's happening? That's the thing too. Is that, like, you. I don't know. I felt very minimal. Like, I didn't have any, like, bad messaging from, like, my family about the fact that I didn't get married or have kids or whatever. Like, so that was never a pressure for me. So I'm lucky that I was never made to feel bad about myself in that way from a very, like, intense place, like, from like a familial place or from some, you know, like, from people that are your closest to you. But I still. But it's so crazy because I just feel like, wow. Like, I. We're still, like, fudgeing, doing shit like that. Like, we're still making people feel bad for not being married, you know, I'm like, that is such a weird, weird thing.

[B]

It's regressive and it's personal and it's like, project onto me. Like, it's just. Yeah, it's an archaic, patriarchal holdover.

[A]

Yeah. Well, kudos to the Scots and the Aussies for being so evolved and so.

[B]

Cute while they're doing it.

[A]

Speaking of cute, we have some emails this week. Some messages. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, do you want to read this first one?

[A]

Hell, yeah, dude, let's go. Okay. This is an email from Sl he him pronouns. The title of it is called Skos. Red dawn made me do it. Millie and Danielle. I'm currently listening to episode 165, my little half and Half look. And I felt the need to let you know that watching Red dawn has really made me question some things. I. E. Hollywood, the role of politics in media, people's sanity, etc. Additionally, as a therapist, I am often encouraging my clients to create their own definitions of self care. However, influencing your listeners to watch these two movies, I feel a square in the realm of serial killer behavior. I don't know if you've received any listener recommendations for serial killer or self care, but I felt inspired to throw these out to you per the game rules, I'm going to leave the interpretation up to the reader. I hope you'll have a fun time reading these. As much as I enjoyed listening to the two of you argue about thrillers throwing ice, I audibly gasped when I heard Millie's confession. Best SL. And then there's five rounds of serial killer self care.

[B]

I'm ready.

[A]

Yeah, you ready? Okay. Also, like, many people told me about throwing ice, the throwing ice thing. They were like, you're fucking insane. And I'm like, really? Is it that bad? It's bad. I did it a couple weeks ago. Sorry. Okay. All right, let's go. Serial killer self care. Danielle, number one. I say this without laughing. Art TVs, slash people disguising their TV as a piece of art on the wall.

[B]

Why is that making you laugh so hard? All right, before I answer, why is that making you laugh so hard?

[A]

Because it's so corny. It's like, the corniest thing. And maybe that's my answer. Maybe now you know my answer.

[B]

I'm going to agree with you. I think it's serial killer because I don't want to be the person who. I don't want to be the kind of person who pretends I don't watch tv. Like, I understand that you don't always want it to be the focal point of your room, but we all, like, get on it. We have TVs. It's okay, people.

[A]

Look, I.

[B]

Why are we.

[A]

Why am I even. I'm a movie professional. I. Of course I have a TV in my house. Like, there's no, like, the idea that you would make it look like a painting is so deeply weird to me. Like, I feel like I've seen that at, like, a paint and sip place or something. Like. Like, you see it in a business. Like a corny, corny business where they take the TV and then they draw, like, a. A fucking squiggly frame around it to make it look like it's flush art on the wall.

[B]

I can't believe this is making me want.

[A]

Do I know anybody that does this? Do I. Now I'm paranoid about my own life.

[B]

No. Well, that's the thing. I've never seen it in real life. But I want to know, where does this trend even come from? Where does this come. Who decided we got to hide these TVs, y'all? We cannot let people out be out here thinking that we are not sophisticated people. Like, who. Who started doing. Is this an influencer thing? Is this a generational thing? Like, I don't know.

[A]

I mean, are you. Are you going as far as putting, like, little placards underneath to describe the artist and the medium and the year it was created? Like, what are we talking about?

[B]

If I go in your bathroom, do you have a Barbie doll sitting in the middle of a roll of toilet paper with a crocheted dress around it? So I don't think you wipe your ass.

[A]

That's why I think it's so funny. Is that exact thing. It's like making something ridiculous to hide the fact that this, like, very natural, everyday item has to exist in your home, Right?

[B]

Like, how far are we going with this? People? Like, oh, I hollowed out a watermelon and put my candy bars inside so people think I'm healthy. Like, how far are we taking this? Stop hiding in your own home.

[A]

Yeah, what he like, put. Put your ass cream and, like, you know, a Gucci Purse that hangs in your closet. Like, what is. Where does it end? Where does it end? Like, just be a human being and have the thing that you need to get by and don't hide it. This is. This concept is such. The Barbie doll toilet paper crochet dress.

[B]

Absolutely. It is an elevated Barbie doll crochet toilet paper holder. And I won't do it in my own house. I will watch TV in my own house without shame.

[A]

I mean, honestly, if I actually do know people who do this, I'm calling the FBI. I will, I will testify against you in court. You are a fucking serial killer. The end.

[B]

Well, we both call serial killer for what I think are very good reasons.

[A]

I totally agree. I totally agree. All right, so number two, I have a feeling I know what you're gonna say. Number two, serial killer or self care combining alcohol and prebiotic, probiotic health drinks, I. E. Kombucha soda, etc.

[B]

Fucking serial killer. Are you kidding me? Pick one.

[A]

Dude. What? Like, why, why are we mixing alcohol with things that we're just. That are trying to make us take dumps? I guess I don't understand that part.

[B]

Also, there's the absolute. Let me do something good for my health with something that is so bad for my health across the board is just gonna rot my guts out. Like, just get into it.

[A]

I mean, listen, I thought it was psychotic that they were mixing alcohol with Red Bull and energy drinks back in the day. I was like, why would you want alcohol to be in an energy drink? That just feels like two opposite ends of the spectrum, vibe wise? Do you know what I mean?

[B]

I feel like it's, it's. It's similar to when people say, oh, if you go to like Dunkin Donuts or Starbucks and you order like a high sugar, super whipped, creamy, like fancy ass drink, you don't actually like coffee. You like, you know, like you want like milkshakes or whatever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like if you're putting prebiotic, you're jumping a prebiotic kombucha soda in your fucking vodka. You don't like drinking.

[A]

Yeah, but I would even argue to that point. Coffee is a flavor. Like the taste of coffee is a flavor and it actually goes great with like ice cream and, and milk and that kind of. So it's like, that feels like a natural marriage. Right? This is just insane. Like a kombucha and a vodka. Is that what people. What do they mix with kombucha?

[B]

I literally don't know. I haven't been to a bar in ages. And if anyone next to me ordered a kombucha and then poured some Jack Daniels into it. I would offer to do some kind of like, arm wrestle.

[A]

I. I gotta say, I don't fuck with that stuff. I don't fuck with kombucha.

[B]

No.

[A]

Do you?

[B]

No.

[A]

I'm talking very tiny.

[B]

I know. Like, why are you.

[A]

Because I'm just afraid of what people will say. Like, they're like, what?

[B]

Not that it gets kombucha. It just isn't. It's. It's a whole. It seems like it's not a drink. It's a lifestyle and I don't have the time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's why I don't drink it. I'm sure it's. There are lots of things out there that I'm sure are perfectly wonderful for me that I avoid because they're tied to a lifestyle that I don't have time to engage in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But no, if I'm drinking, I'm fucking drinking.

[A]

Yeah. Honestly, like, I've always been like a old school drunk when it came to drinks. Like, I was drinking like Tom Collins one in my 20s. Like, that was a fucking cocktail that only, like, old men drank from.

[B]

Oh, hell yeah.

[A]

Like Tennessee Williams days. Like, I was like, oh, pour me a Tom Collins. And they're like, what?

[B]

Oh, my favorite drink when I first started drinking was a Manhattan.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, what the fuck? You're 21.

[A]

What are you.

[B]

What are you doing drinking this? Like, old latent coal miner. Like, it's not even a coal miner drink. It's like a bored Manhattan housewife.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In her 70s on an afternoon with her friends playing bridge. Like, what was I doing?

[A]

I know. Like, we were sipping on absence when everybody was on that four loco vibe. Let's go back to the 9th century. We don't need your fancy ass energy cocktails.

[B]

Oh, no. I'm definitely a purist drunk, I guess you could say, in that. Like, like, yeah, I'll do like a mixed drink. Like a Negroni. Like, I'll do a mixed drink, something like that. Negroni, what have you. But you know, I'm not putting a new fancy combo.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In Like, I'm not making my drink into a Taco Bell item.

[A]

Honestly, like, the, the craziest that I will ever get when it comes to drinking is that I'll drop a shot of Jameson and a Guinness and then just chug it real fast. I think you know what it's called. But that's it. Like, beyond that. And that is like, when we're having A good time. Like that's not all the time. That's just a fun time, so.

[B]

Well, serial killer again crossed the board.

[A]

I totally agree. Oh, speaking of number three very easily slides in. Serial killer or self care. Espresso martinis.

[B]

I've never. I've never had one actually.

[A]

Haven't either.

[B]

But I'm going to say the concept is serial killer. Something that brings you up and something that brings you down. What are you doing?

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I guess I feel like. Like, I feel like, okay, that's not as crazy to me again, as a kombucha vodka or something. Espresso martini, like kind of in the abstract. Feels like self care, but yeah, the. The opposite vibes in terms of stimulant and depressant. Yeah, a little serial killer to me too.

[B]

Yeah. But I haven't. I've not had one, so I can't go too deep on this, but.

[A]

Yeah, me neither. All right.

[B]

I'm comfortable saying the concept is serial killer to me.

[A]

Maybe that'll be a goal for 2025, is to have an espresso martini for the first time.

[B]

Let's do it. We're hanging out together in a couple weeks. Let's try it. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Okay, so number four, serial killer. Self care. Buying organic produce but selecting the cheaper slash non organic produce button when you're doing self checkout.

[B]

You know goddamn well I think this is self care.

[A]

I 100% agree with you.

[B]

Ring everything up as garlic or bananas. Go for it. Like, fucking do it. They're charging us crazy, crazy amounts of money right now for groceries Pure profit for the people running this shit. Buy organic, charge it however you fucking want.

[A]

Listen, I'm a no shame. I do this often and it's honestly because it's out of laziness. Like, I don't know to look up organic bananas. I just type in B A N and whatever comes up gets weighed.

[B]

The code is 4011 for regular ass bananas.

[A]

That's true. I should have remembered that. Yeah, listen, here's my. I don't know if this is true. Don't get in my mentions, grocery store owners, but I feel like the 20 cents that they lose by people who ring up a non organic banana when they've actually bought an organic banana is recouped by some other thing in that.

[B]

Grocery store a hundred percent. And it's. Maybe it fucks with your inventory where you're like, well, we seem to be losing a lot of organic bananas, so I don't know if we should order as many because they're not being wrong. If you're looking purely at the ring up numbers, like, well, we're selling a lot of regular bananas. Should we buy fewer organic bananas? That could fuck with you. I get it, I get it. But I also think the caveat I'm going to add is yes, you should only do this at a big chain grocery store. Don't be fucking over small grocers or indie stores.

[A]

Yeah, I wouldn't dare do this at the, you know, fucking farmer's market in my neighborhood. No, I mean, clearly, actually they wouldn't ever do self checkout there.

[B]

I was gonna say you're probably only gonna find yourself check out at the big stores anyway, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So this is, this grift is only possible at places that deserve to be robbed by the common people like us.

[B]

And I'm sure legally I should say, of course you shouldn't steal. But then, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, ring it up however you want.

[A]

Look, I'm gonna tell you right now, I did this the other day. I was, I was at a grocery store that starts with the letter W and it's maybe two words and maybe that second word starts with an F. Okay. Rang up the organic produce as a normal produce out of laziness, as I do often. Then went to ring up my loose cookies. By the way, these are loose cookies that are made in store. And you know, you open the, open the gate, the little gate, glass gate, and you take your wax paper and you select your like little loose cookies or whatever, you put them in a bag and then you weigh them. How about I paid $22 for some loose ass cookies. And I was like, okay, they got their money back for that fucking organic produce bullshit. Cause I just paid $22 for a couple of like fucking tchotchkes here. Like, this is insane. Why are these cookies so expensive?

[B]

I love the rationalization, the math that happens at a grocery store. Self checkout deserves its own Oscar short that hot bar.

[A]

The hot bar is the same, same principle. I'm like, yo, pennies on the dollar on this hot bar. And the loose cookie grift. So whatever. If I, if I choose to steal 20 cents, they've literally made $22 off of little miniature black and white cookies that I just bought for myself. I can't believe how expensive that is, man.

[B]

That hot bar is a scam. I have not shopped at that store in a very long time. There's not one in my area. I'D have to make a real effort to get to one. But that hot bar is a scam. I can't tell you. I've only done it twice because I thought the first time. Well, this can't be all the time. Yeah. So the second time I went back and I think I got, like, some sweet potatoes and some, like, a chicken breast. Like, one chicken breast, one spoonful of sweet potatoes, and maybe a scoop of something else. And it was $17.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and, and you know what else enrages me about that, too, is that so my grocery store that starts with an F, a W, and an F is across the street from a giant hospital. And those, you know, all my nurses, all my doctors, all my people in healthcare, you know, they work odd hours. So, like, the lunch rush is like 10:30am A lot of times at this place. So if you wander in there at noon, you. They have not replenished the rush. So you get, like, the skanky sweet potatoes. The crust, the crust on the outside of the macaroni and cheese. You get, like, the most fucked up, misshapen meatloaf or chicken wing. So I'm paying $17 for, for, like, the, the skanky hot bar food that came after the rush. Fuck that. Fuck that.

[B]

Not me. I ain't doing it. I have not shopped at that store in years. Especially after I found out that a former president who may or may not be a war criminal is an investor. And I was like, none of y'all getting any of my money. Bye.

[A]

I wish, I wish I had those. Those. Yeah, I wish I wish I could be at that level because I go there often.

[B]

I mean, I, I don't have a lot of scruples everywhere, but I try for certain things, and that is one of them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, Fucking selfish.

[A]

I'm glad you're my Marxist queen. You have principles. Come on. Like, I'm trying to get at your level at all times, but, yeah, no, I, I, I will say that this happens often. And so, yeah, I think it is self care. Totally.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

All right, so this is the final one. Oh, my God. This is the final one. Serial killer of self care from SL scented trash bags.

[B]

Fucking serial killer. No hesitation.

[A]

We absolutely disagree on this.

[B]

Really?

[A]

I love a scented trash bag. You have care.

[B]

Got to make this case because garbage smells okay, but you know what smells worse than garbage? Scented trash bags made to cover up the smell of garbage. Those things are rank.

[A]

No, I actually get a, I get a little happiness from sometimes. Especially the, the ones that smell like lemons. I'm like, ooh, a little lemon. As I'm scooping up dog, like, piles of dog shit and putting them in a garbage bag, I'm like, you know, I'm not saying it's a perfect. This isn't like La Labo Santal 33 coming up from the fucking bag. I'm just saying if I'm going to have a trash bag to put actual animal shit in, if I get a little hint of lemon once in a while, I kind of like it.

[B]

Why are you putting dog shit in your kitchen trash bag?

[A]

No, no, no. I'm talking about. This is. Okay. When I'm out in the yard, sometimes I grab. If I don't have, like, like a grocery store bag or something, I'll grab, like, a little miniature trash bag that I just take. Take it off the roll from the bathroom, and I'll just, like, stick my hand in it and then pick up this stuff.

[B]

So I do not. I think all of the smells of. I accidentally bought scented trash bags once, and it was the worst three months of my life. Cause I'm gonna use them. I'm gonna use. I have them. I'm not wasting them. I'm gonna use them. Yeah, it was disgusting. It smelled like. It reminded me of when I was a kid and my grandma always kept a can of Glade on the back of the toilet so when you shit, you could spray it in the air. And I'm like, oh, it just smells like shit. Plus roses. Now. It doesn't actually do anything to the smell. So the same thing with garbage, those scented bags. I'm like, all you're doing is giving me garbage smell plus fake chemical smell. Yeah, I'm gonna yak, but I understand the garbage smell is a bad thing. I don't love a garbage smell either. I'm not saying I love a garbage smell.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let me tell you what I do instead, because scented trash bags are definitely serial killer territory for you. For me.

[A]

Go on, go on.

[B]

So I have. First and foremost, I have a countertop composting machine. So I put all my food scraps in there to compost so it doesn't smell up my garbage.

[A]

Right, Cool.

[B]

So I have a recycler, and I compost. So my garbage is minimal to begin with. Here's how you get around a scented trash bag. If you don't want your shit to smell. Charcoal. Get some of that fucking activated charcoal discs or whatever, put that in the bottom of the can, and cotton balls soaked in your favorite oil. Your favorite, like. Like lavender, lemon, whatever. Just throw a couple of those in the bottom of your fucking trash can and you're good to go.

[A]

All right. That's very artisanal, by the way. That's a very artisanal curated garbage scent deflection method.

[B]

I would prefer no scent, but if you have to have Ascent, throw some fucking oils on a cotton ball.

[A]

That's beautiful. That's a beautiful technique. I wish again I could be on your fucking level about any of this shit. Because I'm like, oh, it smells like Febreze. I'm at Target. Like, I know this is not doing a goddamn thing, but in my mind it feels like my life is not in shambles. Oh, my God. Yeah, I. I'm always fooling myself. I have. Well, I don't have Glade. I don't buy Glade necessarily, but I do have a couple of spritzies, little spritzy ditzies that are. Hey, you've been in my house. You know what I'm talking about. That. I'm just like. Is this, like, reed diffuser really doing anything? If somebody drops a fucking deuce in here, is it. Is it going to smell like, you know, the candle from anthropology?

[B]

You know, I have a weed diffuser in my. My guest bathroom too. And above them. I'm just saying it's not covering the smell. It's there to make you enjoy a smell, but it's not going to cover shit like, don't put your TV behind a painting. Don't buy scented garbage bags. You're not hiding anything. You're a fucking serial killer.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know why I hate the TV as art, but love a scented garbage bag. I guess I'm.

[B]

To me, they are the same.

[A]

Complex.

[B]

You're a complex woman. To me they are the same. Live in your house, no apology.

[A]

Well, listen, we can't always align, right? Like we get. We align on a lot of things, but once in a while we just have had different life experiences, I suppose so. That was a great Skosk, by the way.

[B]

Yeah, thank you so much. Sl. That was great.

[A]

That was amazing. Sorry, we burned a lot of time on that one.

[B]

A lot of time.

[A]

We gotta listen to this, though. We gotta listen to this next one.

[B]

All right, this next. Our next entry is a voicemail. A Halloween voice memo.

[A]

Well, hello, Millie. Hello, Danielle. Hannibal Lecter here. Just dropping a line. Tell me, in all your years of movie watching, in building on your appreciation and the appreciation of your audience for the cinema, have you ever come Across a specific film whose cuisine you found specifically delectable.

[B]

Ta ta for now.

[A]

Holy fucking shit, dude.

[B]

Yo.

[A]

That was up, by the way, like, when he said my name first. Hannibal said my name first. I, like, jumped back just now in my chair.

[B]

Oh, God. Oh, God, Steve. Steve said that voice memo in and wow, you knock it out of the park.

[A]

God, Steve, that.

[B]

Imagine this is what happened to me. So I read that email while I was in my car, and then I closed it out, sent you guys a text or, you know, put it on slack, like, hey, we gotta listen to this one. And then as I'm driving home, the voice memo just started playing on its own. So I'm driving and I hear, hello, Millie and Danielle. I almost drove my car off the fucking road.

[A]

Holy Steve.

[B]

Between Steve and Sl, I think our listeners are not okay.

[A]

Oh, my God. I love it. I love it.

[B]

They are the best, but they are not okay.

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[B]

This just truly delights me. It's this. This voice memo. And I will answer the question, but I just needed everyone to hear the actual voicemail, which made me laugh so fucking hard. So, yes, there are movies that feature food that I find amazing. We've covered a couple of them on the pod. Big night. Jiro dreams of sushi. Did we do Tampopo in that episode? Because that's another good one.

[A]

Yeah. No, no, no. I was just thinking that's probably one of mine for sure.

[B]

Yeah, Tampopo is great. Even, like, soul food. Soul food. They've got some good cooking in that movie.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

I really liked. I liked the menu. Even though they're kind of blasting foodies in that film. Like, the food itself looked hilarious and delicious. Yeah, there are a lot. There are a lot of things that look delectable. Babette's Feast. A lot of Babette's Feast I would eat, like, flat out.

[A]

Yeah. There's two movies that I thought of almost immediately that, like, after I watched them, I, like, did the thing where I, like, try to. To reenact it in real life. One is that movie, that Wong Kar Wai movie, In the Mood for Love, where she gets the noodles in the, like, little. What is it? The little thermos thing?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For weeks, when I first saw that movie, I was like, I'm getting a thermos and I am going to make noodles in it, and I'm going to put. Bring it to work, and everybody's going to think that I'm Maggie Chung. They're gonna think I'm as beautiful as Maggie Chung. Who is this mysterious woman bringing a thermos of noodles to her job? So there's that. And then honestly, like when I saw Parasite for the first time, it's. What do they call it? Is it like Ram dawn when they made the noodles with the steak? Yeah, I looked that shit up like the minute I got home and was like, I need to try to make that at my house.

[B]

That shit looks so good.

[A]

Yeah, it looks really good. So those. Those two for sure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, honestly, big night like we tampopo everything you mentioned pretty much. And I don't know if there's anything else. I mean it's so weird though because like, I'll watch stuff like do the right thing and be like, I want pizza.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

So.

[B]

Oh, I'm rewatching the Sopranos right now and I've gained like 10 pounds by season three. Like I just. Every time they're on screen eating pasta or this or that, I'm like, I gotta eat. I'll little pasta. Why not?

[A]

Yeah, I know that happens a lot when I watch tv. It's like when I'm watching like, you know, TV shows or. Or like viral videos and stuff of people who make food. I'm like, I gotta make that food and make it. Hannibal, Steve.

[B]

Hannibal, Steve.

[A]

What can I say? I feel like I want. Can I get Steve to like do my voicemail?

[B]

That could be it. Just what you just heard could be your voicemail. Why not freak people out? They'd be like, did we call Millie? What's going on here? I feel like Steve would be game.

[A]

I'll just edit you out of it.

[B]

Steve, if you're game, send a voice memo that Millie can use for her voicemail. Do not send one to me, send it to Millie.

[A]

I want one. You're crazy. I want. This is self care if anything.

[B]

So Steve, you are a real one. This was hilarious. Thank you so much for making making us laugh. I'll read the next one since that was a voicemail. The next one. The email subject is theme parks plus fmk. Hello Millie and Danielle, Love the POD and your friendship so much. You keep me company on those long work days, have me cackle laughing on a regular basis and my daughter and I play serial killer or self care all week. The time on a recent episode Disaster Rears, you had me cracking up and nodding my head in agreement with the theme park talk. I'm headed out to the LA area for work as I'm listening and we are having our company picnic at Knott's Berry Farm. While I'm there. I have never been much of a ride person. And as a big. They are not on the table most of the time. I need the 40 plus theme park to take a trolley ride and sip expensive whiskey. Please, let's make this happen. My back just can't do these big roller coasters anymore. Onto the FMK theme park edition. Thank you for all you do. Much love to you both. Laura, who uses she her pronouns. I think that might be my. My retirement plan is to make that theme park, that 40 plus theme park come true.

[A]

Oh, yeah. I mean, honestly, it's a genius idea. One of your most genius ideas because you literally give out business plans every episode.

[B]

Well, I'm very litigious. I will sue anyone who takes it before I get a chance to do it, but I wouldn't. I'm genuinely. I'll try to do it. I will try to do it. I think we need it. But this FMK is great and easy, I think. Easy.

[A]

I think it's extremely easy.

[B]

Okay, I'm gonna read them to you and you go first.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Fmk, Dollywood, Six Flags or Knott's Berry Farm.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Incredibly simple. I am fucking Knott's Berry Farm simply because of Knott's Scary Farm. And let's get serious. It's really Elvira at Knott's Scary Farm. Like, how fun is that shit? Like, how fun is Knott's Berry Farm during this season? This. Quite frankly, this season. So that is a romp in the hay that I will never forget. And I'll be thinking about it when my old age. Like the old lady from Titanic, I'm going to marry Dollywood. I think only because it seems like a life partner for the Dolly Parton connection. Certainly helps in that regard. And I also just remember I have fond memories of Dollywood themed decor in my house when I was a kid. Like, my mom had this fucking wicker basket of Dollywood soaps in her bathroom above the toilet. And it was wrapped, shrink wrapped. We were never allowed to use the soaps ever. Like, we couldn't break. It doesn't even matter if there was a fucking hurricane and there was no soap left in the county. We were never to open that shrink wrap on that wicker basket. So that to me has warm memories that I'm gonna marry. So I'm killing Six Flags because honestly, there's like, at least in the south, at least in Georgia, there was. There was some questionably racist old Southern bullshit, like, named in that park, Monster Plantation. Being one of them. Like, there was something called, like, the Dixie Stampede or some shit.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, there was like, a Southern Dixie fried amphitheater or. I don't know, something like that. So, anyway, I. I feel like that I. I don't want to marry or have sex with that. That needs to die. So what about you?

[B]

Solid, solid answers. Solid answers. I am. I'm gonna fuck Six Flags.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's a dirt bag. It's a mullet and a Budweiser. It's. I'm talking only about the one in New Jersey, which is the only one I've been to. But Six Flag is. Is kind of gnarly. It's like a gnarly go situation for me.

[A]

Is it as gnarly as Action Park?

[B]

God, no. Nothing could ever be.

[A]

Sure, sure, sure.

[B]

Nothing will ever top Action park, surely. So I'll fuck it. I'll Six Flags. It'll be a shameful situation, but I'll do it. I'm going to marry Dollywood. Seems solid. They got the big mayo jar. I've never been there. The. But again, like you said, Dolly Parton connection seems solid.

[A]

The Smokies.

[B]

Yeah. Seems like, you know, you can actually go and have a relaxed time there. Good time. Seems cool. And I'm gonna kill Knott's Berry Farm. I've also never been. But their jelly is disgusting, Their jams are not my jam, and it's a place that is overrun with children, so I'm killing it.

[A]

Yeah, I guess I. I forgot that knots made jelly.

[B]

They are the Berry Farm, dude. And that jelly is not good.

[A]

Uh, like, yo, when you get into commercial jellies, there's many in line for that one. Let's get serious.

[B]

So that makes it real easy for me. But, Laura, thank you so much for sending your letter and your fmk.

[A]

Yes, Laura, thank you so much. So this next one is actually a handwritten card we got in our P.O. box, which I semi dutifully check every couple weeks.

[B]

This one is from, like, February.

[A]

Oh, God. Well, I. Do you know, we have always just so many, like, voicemails and electronic components that I'm always like, oh, yeah, we got to dip into this mailbag. So this is an actual. Now I don't even know who it's from. I can't read Amy.

[B]

I think it says Amy.

[A]

Okay, it is maybe from Amy. It also looks like they. I don't know. It's a. It's a. It's written in cursive. So I'm sorry, but Here is the letter. Hello, Millie and Danielle. I hope y'all are doing swell. Just wanted to read. Oh, sorry. Just wanted to drop a note to thank you for your lovely podcast. It's so refreshing to listen to two hilarious, creative and independent women shoot the shit. I typically listen to true crime, but needed a break after getting assaulted earlier this year. I'm so grateful I found y'all. I love hearing about Danielle's farmhouse and sassy granny and Millie's awesome outfits and academic pursuits. You ladies are killing it. I really appreciated you, Danielle, recently talking about not calling yourself old when you're feeling tired slash cranky. I'm 36 and hate it when folks around this age say that. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks. Y'all are doing the Lord's work, Amy. Or they or whomever wrote this. Really sweet.

[B]

That is so sweet. And also, I'm sorry you were harmed and I hope you're doing well. And thank you for taking the time to reach out. And yeah, we just really. We always appreciate hearing from people, but I hope you're doing better, Amy Bay.

[A]

Yes, me too. All right, last one. You ready?

[B]

I'm ready. So this email is from Bianca. The email subject is FMK from Tacoma. Hello, Millie and Danielle. My name is Bianca. She her. I'm a teacher from Tacoma, Washington, with an fmk, the theme of which is, hey, kid, I'm dating your mom. Danielle, I feel like I already know who you're going to marry. Yes, I realize there are two Cher movies in there, which is actually unintentional, if you can believe it. Cher just won't be tied down. This might be a weird one, but I blame being trapped in my room with COVID for days on my letterboxd account, thinking up weird list and watching movies. I just made a list of the movies that starred all my childhood crushes that I need to share with my therapist. I will also take this opportunity to thank you for normalizing craggy hot crushes that began at inappropriate ages. Tommy Lee Jones, I'm looking at you anyways. You're brilliant and so hilarious. Thank you for what you do. So many of us used movies as a trauma response, a babysitter, a way to stay off loneliness. And clearly, so many of us found refuge, solace, and connection in a childhood built on a love of film. I've never decided whether it was healthy or not, but you two make it feel like home. And I love you for it. Happy FMKing, Bianca.

[A]

Okay, sweet.

[B]

So here are our options. The FMK, the theme is. Hey, Kid, I'm dating your mom. It's Sam Elliott's character in Mask, Bob Hoskins character in Mermaids, and Pierce Brosnan's character in Mrs. Doubtfire.

[A]

Oh, my God. As I quickly look up Pierce Brosnan in. Okay, I've made my decision.

[B]

All right, well, you're going first.

[A]

Oh, fuck, yeah. Okay, so I am definitely fucking Sam Elliott in Mask. I will take that mustache ride any day. Sexy, sexy, sexy. I always wish that I was. I look like Cher in Mask, by the way.

[B]

It's a great look.

[A]

God damn. Like 80s 90s. Cher was like, such an incredible. Like, it went from mask to, like, the weird crotch outfit in the video for if I could Turn Back time. Remember, it was like a very thin strip going over that little labial fold. I was like, cher is my fucking hero. Then she kind of had this, like, weird moment of like, she was doing, like, just like Jesse James and was sort of like a urban cowgirl. I don't know. She was fucking hitting it. Firing on all cylinders. So, yeah, definitely doing that. I'm gonna marry Bob Hoskins in Mermaids because he was just, man, what a little sweetheart in that movie. Love it. Love a short cutie. So that'll be my husband forever. And then I'm killing. I don't know. I just. For some reason, I just do not vibe well with Mrs. Doubtfire. Not to say that I don't like it, but it's just like, I don't know the ways in which people talk about Mrs. Doubtfire. I'm like, yeah, I don't know if I have many positive associations with that film. And I feel like saying somebody from that film is hot in any way is weird. Even if it's not Robin Williams. Like, I'm like, Pierce Brosnan is like a legitimately attractive man under normal circumstances, but anything having to do with his Doubtfire will not be sexual on my watch. Thank you very much. Your turn.

[B]

I love it. I. I mean, I'm just. I'm stunned, but I love every answer. Shocked into silence. Love every answer. There is a world where I could have had the exact same answers, but mine are slightly different.

[A]

Let's hear it.

[B]

I'm going to fuck Bob Hoskins and Mermaids.

[A]

Oh, very interesting.

[B]

I don't want that shoe store life. But he's nice. Oh, it'd be interesting to know what it's like to. Fucking Nice guy. Sorry. Every guy I've ever fucked.

[A]

You loud and clear. Assassin. Tattoo. Prison. Prison transfer guy.

[B]

Sorry if I fucked you and you're listening. But them's the breaks. And I would marry Sam Elliott in Mask.

[A]

It's a hard choice, honestly.

[B]

I haven't seen that movie in a really long time, but I feel like he was a solid dude. Maybe not, but I feel like he was like, on Cher and Rocky's side.

[A]

Yeah. They were all bikers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I think they were Hell's Angels, but they were like, nice Hell's Angels.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know if I'm conflating that or hoping and wishing that's the case or not, but it didn't traumatize me as a child to where I thought he was a bad dude in the movie.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, yeah, I'll marry. I'll marry him. Why not be fun life for a minute or two. Didn't say we can't get divorced. Just said I'd marry him.

[A]

Plus he's always on that bicycle. He wouldn't be bothering you whatsoever.

[B]

Always gone. Gotta marry him. Yeah. Always on a ride with the dudes.

[A]

He's in Sturgis. He's not bothering you.

[B]

And then I have to kill Pierce Brosnan's character in Mrs. Doubtfire. I know that's peak Brosnan hotness for most, but I think he's hotter now. He's like fully gray.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And super charming. And I just, I don't like that double breasted coat shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like highfalutin dude. Like, I just, I don't love it. I just don't like that, that kind of guy that he was playing in that movie. So I'm gonna kill him. Gonna kill him.

[A]

You want to see him driving over lava in Dante's peak. You do not want to see him as a, a little double breasted J Crew suit guy, bear mins.

[B]

Driving over lava.

[A]

Bianca. Holy shit.

[B]

That was great. Thank you everyone. This week, this, this, this episode was. This bonus was great.

[A]

Yeah, I had a good time as well. And listen, if you want to email us, we are at. I saw what you did. Pot gmail.com as we've just showed you, if you do that, you will get read on a bonus episode probably. And also, even if you write to a PO box, you could also get read on a bonus.

[B]

And you can find all of our contact info on our link tree which is on all of our social media. We are @isawpod on Instagram, bluesky and Twitter. And as you've heard, you can also send us a voicemail to play on the show. All you have to do is record a voice memo on your phone and email it to I saw what you did. Podmail.com Please make it 60 seconds or less and please record it in a quiet space.

[A]

Absolutely. And if you want merch, go to.

[B]

Exactlyrightstore.Com and you're listening to a bonus episode right now. So you know that they drop on the main feed every third Thursday of the month.

[A]

Absolutely. Do well. Listen, Danielle, as always, a fucking pleasure doing this podcast with you. Happy Halloween.

[B]

The best. Happy Halloween.

[A]

I'm not even gonna try it. I can't even do it.

[B]

Steve, forever in our hearts, we love you, Steve. This has been an exactly right production. Our senior producer is Casey O'Brien. Episode mixing and theme music by Tom Breyfogel. Artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia Hardstart, Karen Kilgariff and Danielle Kramer. You can follow us on Instagram and Twitter. Saw Pod and you can email us at I saw what you did. Podmail.