Debate The News: True Crime

The Long Island Serial Killer & The Gilgo Beach Murders

In this episode, we revisit the Gilgo Beach murders after one of the biggest developments in the Long Island Serial Killer case. Rex Heuermann, the Massapequa Park architect accused in multiple killings, recently pleaded guilty to seven charged murders and admitted responsibility for an eighth killing.This episode traces the case from the 1993 murder of Sandra Costilla through the discovery of the Gilgo Four along Ocean Parkway, the long years of stalled investigation, and the renewed Suffolk County task force that eventually focused on Heuermann. The hosts, guest contributors, and the live audience also debate whether the motive behind Heuermann's guilty plea was rooted in true accountability, legal strategy, or his own form of twisted control.At the center of this episode are the women whose lives were stolen: Sandra Costilla, Karen Vergata, Valerie Mack, Jessica Taylor, Maureen Brainard-Barnes, Melissa Barthelemy, Megan Waterman, and Amber Lynn Costello. The conversation also recognizes the broader Gilgo Beach investigation, including Shannan Gilbert, Tanya Denise Jackson, Tatiana Marie Dykes, and other victims whose cases remain part of the wider Long Island mystery.Trigger Warning & Disclaimer:This episode involves discussions about murder, sexual violence, dismemberment, and violence against women, including woman involved in sex work. Listener discretion is advised.If you or someone you know needs support, help may be available in the United States by dialing or texting 988.The hosts are not attorneys, law enforcement officials, forensic experts, or mental health professionals. The show researches each case carefully, but episodes are recorded live with minimal editing, and any factual errors are unintentional. The opinions of guests, audience members, and live commenters are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or Debate The News.Guest Contributors:→ Sha→ Anne→ Angiesworld→ AR→ MarkeithCredits:Debate The News: True Crime"The Long Island Serial Killer & The Gilgo Beach Murders"Special Thanks: Nelson, Lea, Nawzil, and the entire Chatter Social teamTheme Song: Alaina Cross — “Karma” [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSoundsFree Download/Stream: ncs.io/karmaWatch: ncs.lnk.to/karmaAT/youtube🎧 A Debate the News: True Crime ProductionDownload the Chatter Social app: (for iOS / for Android).This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

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D4vd & The Death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez: Part 2

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In this episode of Debate The News: True Crime, we return to the disturbing case of Celeste Rivas Hernandez and singer D4vd, whose legal name is David Anthony Burke.In Part 1, we covered Celeste’s disappearance, her alleged connection to Burke, the discovery of her remains inside a Tesla registered to him, and the search of his Los Angeles rental home. In Part 2, the case has moved from a suspicious death investigation into an arrest and criminal charges.Burke has been charged with murder, sexual abuse, and unlawful mutilation of human remains. The criminal complaint also includes special circumstance allegations of lying in wait, murder for financial gain, and murder of a witness. Burke has pleaded not guilty, and his defense denies that he killed Celeste or caused her death.This episode walks through the new timeline, the prosecution’s theory, the alleged Tesla evidence, the DNA and digital evidence claims, and the questions that still do not make sense to the panel — especially why Celeste’s remains would allegedly be left for months in a car tied directly to D4vd.Trigger Warning & Disclaimer:This episode involves discussions about the death of a minor, alleged child sexual abuse, homicide, mutilation of human remains, decomposition, dismemberment, and graphic criminal allegations. Listener discretion is advised.If you or someone you know needs support, help may be available in the United States by dialing or texting 988.The hosts are not attorneys, law enforcement officials, forensic experts, or mental health professionals. The show researches each case carefully, but episodes are recorded live with minimal editing, and any factual errors are unintentional. The opinions of guests, audience members, and live commenters are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the hosts or Debate The News. David Anthony Burke is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty in a court of law.Guest Contributors:→ Angiesworld→ Lauren LaPointe→ Debbie Dowling-Wahba→ Anne→ Jessica→ BillieCredits:Debate The News: True Crime"D4vd & The Death of Celeste Rivas Hernandez: Part 2"Special Thanks: Nelson, Lea, Nawzil, and the entire Chatter Social teamTheme Song: Alaina Cross — “Karma” [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSoundsFree Download/Stream: ncs.io/karmaWatch: ncs.lnk.to/karmaAT/youtube🎧 A Debate the News: True Crime ProductionDownload the Chatter Social app: (for iOS / for Android).This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

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Kaitlin Armstrong & The Murder of Moriah Wilson (with Angiesworld)

Apr 2200:39:40Tap to summarize

In this episode, the hosts are joined by guest host Angiesworld to break down Kaitlin Armstrong & The Murder of Moriah Wilson — the shocking 2022 Austin, Texas murder case that ended the life of elite cyclist Anna Moriah “Mo” Wilson. What begins as a story about jealousy and a complicated love triangle quickly turns into a digital-age true crime case filled with hidden text threads, deleted messages, shared passwords, GPS data, surveillance footage, a black Jeep near the scene, a fake passport, a flight to Costa Rica, cosmetic surgery, and a fugitive manhunt that gripped the country.At the center of the case is Mo Wilson, a gifted young cyclist with enormous promise, and Kaitlin Armstrong, the yoga teacher and former partner of cyclist Colin Strickland, who prosecutors said became consumed by jealousy. This episode follows the timeline from the early cracks in Armstrong and Strickland’s relationship, to Wilson’s final night in Austin, to the investigation, trial, conviction, 90-year sentence, and the legal fallout that continued long after the verdict.Tune in to hear:The relationship timeline — Colin Strickland and Kaitlin Armstrong begin an on-again, off-again relationship in 2019, eventually becoming financially intertwined, while Strickland later forms a brief romantic connection with rising cycling star Mo Wilson.The jealousy builds — Witnesses later describe Armstrong as deeply upset over Wilson, with testimony that she made alarming statements about wanting to kill her if Strickland seriously moved on.May 11, 2022 — Wilson travels to Austin for the Gravel Locos race and reconnects with Strickland. To avoid conflict, he saves her contact under a fake name and deletes their text thread before the two meet up that night.The final evening — After spending time together, Strickland drops Mo Wilson off at her friend Kaitlyn Cash’s residence. Not long after, a nearby camera captures a scream followed by gunshots. Wilson is later found shot to death inside the home.The investigation turns fast — Police interview both Strickland and Armstrong, but within days the case takes a dramatic turn when Armstrong sells her Jeep, flies to New York, uses her sister’s passport, and flees to Costa Rica.The fugitive chapter — Authorities say Armstrong tried to disappear under the name Allison Page, underwent cosmetic procedures, and even worked as a yoga instructor before U.S. Marshals arrested her after a 43-day manhunt.The prosecution’s case — Investigators point to GPS and vehicle data, deleted iCloud evidence, surveillance video, phone records, and DNA on Wilson’s discarded bike as key pieces of the murder case.The trial and verdict — In November 2023, a jury convicts Armstrong of murder. She is sentenced to 90 years in prison and fined $10,000.The aftermath — This episode also covers Armstrong’s pretrial escape attempt, the later dismissal of that related charge, the January 2026 appellate ruling that upheld her conviction and sentence, and the $15 million wrongful death judgment awarded to Wilson’s family.Joseph, Adrienne, and Angie also debate the bigger questions at the center of this case: Was Colin Strickland himself living inside a coercive, emotionally abusive relationship? Did Armstrong intend only to kill Mo Wilson, or could things have ended even worse? Did Armstrong’s jealousy come from fear of losing Colin, resentment of Wilson’s talent and future, or both? And how do cases like this expose the dangerous line between obsession, control, stalking, and deadly violence?⚠️ Listener discretion: This episode includes discussion of murder, stalking, domestic abuse dynamics, gun violence, and disturbing criminal allegations. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know needs support, help may be available via the Crisis Lifeline by dialing 988.⚖️ Disclaimer: Debate the News: True Crime Edition is for informational and discussion purposes only. We are not attorneys, law enforcement officers, or forensic experts. While we research each case, the show is recorded live with little to no editing; any factual errors are unintentional. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Guest and audience views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the hosts.Speakers:→ Adrienne Barker — Host→ Joseph Lobosco — Host→ Angiesworld — Guest Host→ Debbie Dowling-Wahba — Guest ContributorCredits:Debate The News: True Crime"Kaitlin Armstrong & The Murder of Moriah Wilson"Created by: Jonathan Bing, Adrienne Barker and Joseph R. LoboscoProducers: Adrienne Barker, Joseph R. Lobosco, Danielle Paci, and Jonathan BingWriters: Joseph R. Lobosco and Adrienne BarkerEditor: Joseph R. LoboscoCover Art: Joseph R. LoboscoSpecial Thanks: Nelson, Lea, Nawzil, and the entire Chatter Social teamTheme Song: Alaina Cross — “Karma” [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSoundsFree Download/Stream: ncs.io/karmaWatch: ncs.lnk.to/karmaAT/youtube🎧 A Debate the News: True Crime ProductionDownload the Chatter Social app: (for iOS / for Android).This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

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Into the Deep: The Submarine Murder of Kim Wall

Apr 1600:35:06Tap to summarize

In this episode, we dive into the 2017 murder of Swedish freelance journalist Kim Wall, who boarded Danish inventor Peter Madsen’s homemade submarine, the UC3 Nautilus, near Copenhagen, Denmark, for what should have been a routine interview and never came back. What followed was an international missing-person case, gruesome forensic evidence, shifting lies, and one of the most disturbing murder trials in modern true crime.The hosts and their panel of guest contributors also debate the bigger questions surrounding this case: Would you ever board a homemade submarine? What do Peter Madsen’s constantly changing explanations reveal about guilt, control, and motive? Was this murder planned in advance? How did Madsen’s image as an eccentric inventor help hide something far darker?⚠️ Listener discretion: This episode includes discussion of murder, dismemberment, sexual violence, and graphic postmortem abuse. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know needs support, help may be available via the Crisis Lifeline by dialing 988.⚖️ Disclaimer: Debate The News: True Crime Edition is for informational and discussion purposes only. We are not attorneys, law enforcement officers, or forensic experts. While we research each case, the show is recorded live with minimal editing; any factual errors are unintentional. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Guest and audience views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the hosts.Speakers:→ Adrienne Barker — Host→ Joseph R. Lobosco — Host→ Lauren LaPointe — Guest Contributor→ Anne — Guest Contributor→ Debbie Dowling-Wahba — Guest Contributor→ Steven Martin — Guest Contributor→ Danielle Paci — Guest Contributor→ Mariana Thomas — Guest ContributorCredits:Debate The News: True Crime"Into the Deep: The Submarine Murder of Kim Wall"Created by: Jonathan Bing, Adrienne Barker and Joseph R. LoboscoProducers: Adrienne Barker, Joseph R. Lobosco, Danielle Paci, and Jonathan BingWriters: Joseph R. Lobosco and Adrienne BarkerEditor: Joseph R. LoboscoCover Art: Joseph R. LoboscoSpecial Thanks: Nelson, Lea, Nawzil, and the entire Chatter Social teamTheme Song: Alaina Cross — “Karma” [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSoundsFree Download/Stream: ncs.io/karmaWatch: ncs.lnk.to/karmaAT/youtube🎧 A Debate the News: True Crime ProductionDownload the Chatter Social app: (for iOS / for Android).This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

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The Murder of Tara Baker (with Too Bee & Jonathan Bing)

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Tara Baker was a 23-year-old first-year law student at the University of Georgia whose life was cut short in a brutal murder that shocked Athens and remained unsolved for more than two decades.In this episode of Debate The News: True Crime, we break down Tara Baker’s final known movements, the crime scene, the long road to justice, the DNA evidence that revived the case, and the arguments raised by both prosecutors and the defense during trial. We also examine why the verdict still sparks discussion in the community years after the murder itself.What we cover in this episode:Tara Baker’s final known movements before her deathThe discovery of the crime scene inside her Athens apartmentWhy the case went unsolved for more than 20 yearsHow renewed DNA testing changed the direction of the investigationThe arrest and prosecution of Edrick FossThe defense theory and controversy surrounding the verdictWhy the case still divides opinion todayJoin the DebateJoin the conversation live on Chatter Social and be part of the next Debate The News: True Crime recording. Debate The News: True Crime records live on Thursdays at 7:00 PM ET on the Chatter Social App. Download Chatter Social: (for iOS / for Android).DisclaimerThe hosts are not attorneys, law enforcement officials, or medical professionals. This show is recorded live with minimal editing, and any factual errors are unintentional. Any individuals, businesses, or organizations discussed who were never convicted of a crime are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The opinions of guests and audience members are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Adrienne Barker, Joseph Lobosco, or Debate The News: True Crime.Speakers→ Adrienne Barker — Host→ Joseph Lobosco — Host→ Too Bee — Guest Host→ Jonathan Bing — Guest Host→ Mariana Thomas — Guest Contributor→ Lisa — Guest Contributor→ Sha — Guest Contributor→ Jessaka — Guest ContributorCredits:Debate The News: True Crime"The Murder of Tara Baker (with Too Bee & Jonathan Bing)"Created by: Jonathan Bing, Adrienne Barker and Joseph R. LoboscoProducers: Adrienne Barker, Joseph R. Lobosco, Danielle Paci, and Jonathan BingWriters: Joseph R. Lobosco and Adrienne BarkerEditor: Joseph R. LoboscoCover Art: Joseph R. LoboscoSpecial Thanks: Nelson, Lea, Nawzil, and the entire Chatter Social teamTheme Song: Alaina Cross — “Karma” [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSoundsFree Download/Stream: ncs.io/karmaWatch: ncs.lnk.to/karmaAT/youtube🎧 A Debate the News: True Crime ProductionDownload the Chatter Social app: (for iOS / for Android).This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

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Murder, Fentanyl and a Moscow Mule: The Trial of Kouri Richins

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In this episode of Debate The News: True Crime, we break down the Kouri Richins case, the high-profile Utah murder case centered on the death of Eric Richins. Prosecutors argued that Richins poisoned her husband with fentanyl after a marriage marked by financial strain, secret life insurance policies, estate planning disputes, and a failed earlier attempt involving a Valentine’s Day sandwich.The episode follows the prosecution’s theory from motive to verdict: the alleged fentanyl sourcing, the fatal Moscow mule, the autopsy findings, the phone data, and the behavior after Eric’s death that prosecutors said showed consciousness of guilt. Adrienne and Joseph also dig into the twist that made this case explode in the public imagination: roughly one year after Eric died, Richins self-published a children’s grief book, Are You With Me?, built around helping kids cope with the loss of a father.The conversation also covers the defense strategy, the decision not to call witnesses, the March 2026 guilty verdict, and the separate financial case still hanging over Richins. As always, the live audience weighs in on motive, manipulation, image management, and whether this was a straightforward murder case or a heavily layered circumstantial prosecution.Join the DebateDo you think the prosecution proved motive, method, and intent beyond a reasonable doubt? Did the children’s book change the way you viewed the case? Join the conversation live on Chatter Social and be part of the next Debate The News: True Crime recording. Debate The News: True Crime records live on Thursdays at 7:00 PM ET on the Chatter Social App. Download Chatter Social: (for iOS / for Android).DisclaimerThe hosts are not attorneys, law enforcement officials, or medical professionals. This show is recorded live with minimal editing, and any factual errors are unintentional. Any individuals, businesses, or organizations discussed who were never convicted of a crime are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The opinions of guests and audience members are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Adrienne Barker, Joseph Lobosco, or Debate The News: True Crime.Speakers→ Adrienne Barker — Host→ Joseph Lobosco — Host→ Leslie — Guest Contributor→ Mariana Thomas — Guest Contributor→ Debbie Dowling-Wahba — Guest Contributor→ Jessaka — Guest Contributor→ Nikki — Guest ContributorCredits:Debate The News: True Crime"Murder, Fentanyl and a Moscow Mule: The Trial of Kouri Richins"Created by: Jonathan Bing, Adrienne Barker and Joseph R. LoboscoProducers: Adrienne Barker, Joseph R. Lobosco, Danielle Paci, and Jonathan BingWriters: Joseph R. Lobosco and Adrienne BarkerEditor: Joseph R. LoboscoCover Art: Joseph R. LoboscoSpecial Thanks: Nelson, Lea, Nawzil, and the entire Chatter Social teamTheme Song: Alaina Cross — “Karma” [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSoundsFree Download/Stream: ncs.io/karmaWatch: ncs.lnk.to/karmaAT/youtube🎧 A Debate the News: True Crime ProductionDownload the Chatter Social app: (for iOS / for Android).This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

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The Toy Box Killer: David Parker Ray

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In this episode of Debate The News: True Crime, hosts Adrienne Barker & Joseph Lobosco break down the chilling case of David Parker Ray, the man infamously known as “The Toy Box Killer.” This true crime podcast episode explores the 1999 escape of Cynthia Vigil, the hidden trailer near Elephant Butte, New Mexico, and the survivor accounts that exposed one of the most disturbing criminal investigations in modern true crime history.Adrienne & Joseph trace the disappearances of Jill Suzanne Troya and Marie Parker, the stories of survivors Cynthia Vigil, Angelica Montano, and Kelli Garrett, and the roles played by Cindy Hendy, Jesse Ray, and Dennis Roy Yancy. The episode also examines the unanswered questions that still surround David Parker Ray’s suspected victim count, the lack of recovered bodies, and why this case continues to haunt investigators and the public decades later.Trigger Warning: This episode contains mentions of kidnapping, SA, torture, and murder. Listener discretion is strongly advised.⚖️ Disclaimer: Debate The News: True Crime is for informational, commentary, and discussion purposes only. We are not attorneys, law enforcement officials, or medical professionals. Any factual errors are unintentional. Any individual, business, or organization is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Guest and audience views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the hosts or Debate The News.🔗"FBI official gallery: Items and Artifacts in the David Parker Ray case" — a public collection of 401 recovered items that investigators have asked families and friends of missing people to review: https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/albuquerque/items-david-parker-raySpeakers→ Adrienne Barker — Host→ Joseph Lobosco — Host→ Anne — Guest Contributor→ Lauren — Guest Contributor→ Lea — Guest Contributor→ Amanda — Guest ContributorCredits:Debate The News: True Crime"The Toy Box Killer: David Parker Ray"Created by: Jonathan Bing, Adrienne Barker and Joseph R. LoboscoProducers: Adrienne Barker, Joseph R. Lobosco, Danielle Paci, and Jonathan BingWriters: Adrienne Barker and Joseph R. LoboscoEditor: Joseph R. LoboscoCover Art: Joseph R. LoboscoSpecial Thanks: Nelson, Lea, Nawzil, and the entire Chatter Social teamTheme Song: Alaina Cross — “Karma” [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSoundsFree Download/Stream: ncs.io/karmaWatch: ncs.lnk.to/karmaAT/youtube🎧 A Debate the News: True Crime ProductionDownload the Chatter Social app: (for iOS / for Android).This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

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Abducted: Where is Nancy Guthrie?

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Where is Nancy Guthrie? How does an 84-year-old woman with limited mobility vanish overnight from her Catalina Foothills home outside Tucson, Arizona, leaving behind blood evidence, a disconnected front door camera, a pacemaker app that suddenly went dark, and chilling footage of a masked intruder at her front door?In this episode of Debate The News: True Crime, hosts Adrienne Barker and Joseph Lobosco break down the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie — the mother of Today host Savannah Guthrie — and the FBI/Pima County investigation into what authorities say was a likely abduction in the early morning hours of February 1, 2026.From Nancy’s last confirmed movements after a family dinner, to the recovered suspect footage, fake ransom communications, abandoned evidence leads, and the unanswered question of motive, this episode follows the known timeline step by step. As of March 12, 2026, Nancy Guthrie had been missing for 40 days, and no suspect had been publicly identified.This episode is for listeners following the Nancy Guthrie missing-person case, Savannah Guthrie mother missing coverage, Tucson abduction headlines, FBI suspect footage, and the wider true crime debate over evidence, misinformation, and motive. Debate The News: True Crime approaches this story with care and respect for Nancy Guthrie and the people who love her.Anyone with information regarding the disappearance of Nancy Guthrie should contact the FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI or submit a tip online. The FBI is offering up to $100,000, and the family has separately offered up to $1 million for information leading to Nancy’s recovery.⚖️ Disclaimer: Debate The News: True Crime is for informational, commentary, and discussion purposes only. We are not attorneys, law enforcement officials, or psychologists. While we research each case carefully, the show is recorded live with minimal editing, and any factual errors are unintentional. Anyone discussed who has not been charged or convicted of a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Guest and audience views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the hosts or Debate The News.Speakers→ Adrienne Barker — Host→ Joseph Lobosco — Host→ Jonathan Bing — Guest Contributor→ Debbie Dowling-Wahba — Guest Contributor→ Danielle Paci — Guest Contributor→ Mariana Thomas — Guest Contributor→ Jonathan Howard — Guest Contributor→ Anne — Guest Contributor→ Shauna — Guest Contributor→ Lisa — Guest Contributor→ Lea — Guest Contributor→ Hammed — Guest Contributor→ Gail — Guest ContributorCredits:Debate The News: True Crime"Abducted: Where is Nancy Guthrie?"Created by: Jonathan Bing, Adrienne Barker and Joseph R. LoboscoProducers: Adrienne Barker, Joseph R. Lobosco, Danielle Paci, and Jonathan BingWriters: Joseph R. Lobosco & Adrienne BarkerEditor: Joseph R. LoboscoCover Art: Joseph R. LoboscoSpecial Thanks: Nelson, Lea, Nawzil, and the entire Chatter Social teamTheme Song: Alaina Cross — “Karma” [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSoundsFree Download/Stream: ncs.io/karmaWatch: ncs.lnk.to/karmaAT/youtube🎧 A Debate the News: True Crime ProductionDownload the Chatter Social app: (for iOS / for Android).This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

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The Perfect Neighbor: Susan Lorincz & The Death of Ajike "A.J." Owens (with AngiesWorld)

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In this episode of Debate The News: True Crime, Joseph Lobosco and Adrienne Barker are joined by guest host Angie of the Angiesworld Podcast to break down the Susan Lorincz case, the killing of Ajike “A.J.” Owens, and the renewed attention surrounding Netflix’s "The Perfect Neighbor" documentary. The conversation traces the years of tension in an Ocala, Florida apartment community, the deadly neighbor dispute that culminated in the June 2, 2023 shooting, and the legal fallout that followed.As the Oscar-nominated documentary brings the case back into national focus, the panel debates whether Lorincz ever had a viable self-defense claim, why Florida’s Stand Your Ground law became central to the public conversation, and how race, rage, fear, and repeated neighborhood conflict shaped the deadly outcome. This episode is for listeners following the Susan Lorincz trial, the Ajike Owens case, The Perfect Neighbor documentary, and the wider debate over self-defense laws in true crime and criminal justice.Debate The News: True Crime approaches this story with respect for Ajike “A.J.” Owens, her children, and everyone affected by this case.🎧 Tune In to Hear- the fatal timeline behind the Susan Lorincz case- why the Stand Your Ground defense failed- fear vs. rage vs. premeditation- race, escalation, and neighbor conflict🗓️ Case Timeline- January 16, 2021 – First documented law-enforcement contact. Incident logs show an early call for service tied to the homes, marking the beginning of a long-running pattern of conflict in the neighborhood.- February 25, 2022 – A property dispute turns into a police report. Lorincz calls 911 claiming Ajike Owens threw a no-trespassing sign at her during an argument. Deputies note conflicting statements and no visible injuries.- Late 2022 to spring 2023 – Complaints continue to stack up. Additional calls and reports underscore how normalized police involvement had become between Susan Lorincz and the Owens household.- June 2, 2023, around 8:40 p.m. – The confrontation begins. Owens’ children are outside playing in the common area when an argument breaks out over a tablet. Witness accounts later describe Lorincz throwing the tablet, swinging an umbrella, and throwing roller skates toward the children.- June 2, 2023, 8:54 p.m. – Lorincz calls 911. She reports trespassing and says children are outside her door.- Minutes later – Ajike “A.J.” Owens goes to the door. After learning what happened with her children, Owens walks to Lorincz’s apartment with one of her sons to confront her.- June 2, 2023 – The fatal shot is fired through a closed door. From inside the locked apartment, Lorincz fires a single round through the door, striking Owens in the upper chest. Deputies were already en route from the earlier call.- June 6, 2023 – Susan Lorincz is arrested. Investigators reject her self-defense claim and arrest her four days after the shooting.- June 2023 – Formal charges follow. Prosecutors move forward with manslaughter-related charges and explain why they did not pursue a second-degree murder case.- August 2024 – The case goes to trial. Jurors hear 911 audio, witness testimony, and evidence centered on the shooting through the closed door.- November 25, 2024 – Lorincz is sentenced to 25 years. After being found guilty of manslaughter, she is sentenced to 25 years in the Florida Department of Corrections.- 2025 – The case stays in court and in the headlines. Lorincz files an appeal, the Owens family pursues a wrongful-death lawsuit, and the case remains part of a wider national conversation about accountability and self-defense claims.- October 17, 2025 to January 22, 2026 – The documentary brings renewed attention. Netflix releases The Perfect Neighbor, and the film is later nominated for the Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature, putting the Ajike Owens case back in the national spotlight.⚖️ Debate & Analysis- Was the shooting justified under Florida’s Stand Your Ground law? The panel overwhelmingly says no. A locked door, police already on the way, and a shot fired without opening the door all undercut the self-defense narrative.- Was this fear, rage, or premeditation? The discussion wrestles with whether Lorincz acted in panic, anger, or with a plan to later frame the shooting as self-defense.- What role did race play? The episode examines reported slurs, Lorincz’s admitted language toward Black children, and why many people see the case as more than a simple neighbor dispute.- How did the conflict escalate for so long? Repeated 911 calls, unresolved property disputes, neighborhood tension, and lack of intervention all become part of the story.- Could this tragedy have been prevented? The panel explores how apartment management, law enforcement, and de-escalation failures may have allowed a simmering dispute to become fatal.- Why does The Perfect Neighbor resonate? Because the documentary forces viewers to confront how everyday conflicts, gun access, and self-defense laws can collide in deadly ways.⚠️ DisclaimerThis episode is presented for commentary and informational purposes only. Joseph Lobosco, Adrienne Barker, Angie, and the guest contributors are not acting as attorneys or law-enforcement officials in this episode. The show is recorded live with minimal editing, and any factual errors are unintentional. Opinions expressed by the hosts, guests, and audience contributors are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Debate The News. Any person, business, or organization mentioned who has not been convicted of a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.🎙️ Speakers→ Adrienne Barker — Host→ Joseph Lobosco — Host→ Angiesworld — Guest Host→ Shauna — Guest Contributor→ Mekey — Guest ContributorCredits:Debate The News: True CrimeThe Perfect Neighbor: Susan Lorincz & The Death of Ajike "A.J." Owens (with Angiesworld)Created by: Jonathan Bing, Adrienne Barker and Joseph R. LoboscoProducers: Adrienne Barker, Joseph R. Lobosco, Danielle Paci, Angiesworld and Jonathan BingWriters: Joseph R. Lobosco & Adrienne BarkerEditor: Joseph R. LoboscoCover Art: Joseph R. LoboscoSpecial Thanks: Nelson, Lea, Nawzil, and the entire Chatter Social teamTheme Song: Alaina Cross — “Karma” [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSoundsFree Download/Stream: ncs.io/karmaWatch: ncs.lnk.to/karmaAT/youtube🎧 A Debate the News: True Crime ProductionDownload the Chatter Social app: (for iOS / for Android).This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

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A Body and a Blizzard: The Trials of Karen Read - PART 2

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What happens when a murder case becomes less about one night and more about conspiracy, bias, planted evidence, and public trust?Was Karen Read framed in the death of John O’Keefe, or did a chaotic investigation and a fierce defense strategy turn a tragedy into a true crime debate that hardened people into camps? In this standalone episode, hosts Adrienne Barker and Joseph Lobosco dig into the most explosive unresolved questions surrounding the Karen Read case — the alleged cover-up, the dog-bite theory, the taillight fragments, witness phone calls, conflicts of interest, and the fallout from Michael Proctor’s offensive messages. Rather than retelling the full timeline, this Karen Read trial deep dive zeroes in on the arguments, contradictions, and credibility problems that kept the John O’Keefe case burning long after the courtroom battles ended.Tune in to hear:Conspiracy vs. coincidence – Adrienne asks the panel point-blank whether there was a conspiracy against Karen Read, and Joseph, Angiesworld, Debbie, and Shea largely land in the same place: they believe she was framed and say the people around the case never expected national scrutiny or the strength of Karen’s defense. Dog-bite theory – The panel debates whether wounds on John O’Keefe’s arm, the missing or rehomed dog, and the absence of a clean bite-mark comparison create reasonable doubt. Pork DNA and unanswered questions – Joseph revisits trial discussion that swabs from O’Keefe’s wounds did not reveal dog DNA but did reveal pork DNA, prompting speculation about dog treats and whether the canine theory can really be ruled out. Taillight fragments and planted-evidence claims – Joseph walks through the defense position that Karen’s taillight was damaged elsewhere, while panelists question why red plastic fragments appeared later at the scene after police had access to both the SUV and the location. Scratches, knuckles, and injury analysis – Amanda raises reported marks on a son’s knuckles, while Joseph cites defense reconstruction testimony that O’Keefe’s arm injuries were not consistent with a broken taillight. “Did I hit him?” – Shea breaks down how panic, grief, and shock can be twisted into incriminating statements when investigators are already locked onto a suspect. Butt dials, flirtatious texts, and Brian Higgins – The panel questions whether witness phone calls were really accidental, and whether flirtatious messages plus overlapping personal and law-enforcement relationships created obvious conflicts of interest that demanded an outside investigation.Debate & analysis:This episode is about more than whether Karen Read is innocent or guilty; it’s about what happens when public faith in an investigation collapses. Our panel debates whether bias by investigators and personal entanglements poisoned this case from the start, whether the dog theory and taillight theory amount to real reasonable doubt or overreaching defense arguments, and whether Michael Proctor’s vulgar texts merely exposed unprofessional behavior or fundamentally discredited the investigation. We also confront the larger question that keeps this Karen Read true crime saga alive: once the public believes evidence may have been mishandled, witnesses may be too intertwined, and law enforcement may be protecting its own, can the system ever recover credibility? As Adrienne says at the close, the human cost remains brutal: John O’Keefe is gone, the public has hardened into camps, and the story continues in civil court, disciplinary boards, and the unresolved fight over what really happened.⚖️ Disclaimer: Debate the News: True Crime Edition is for informational and discussion purposes only. We are not attorneys, law enforcement officers, or forensic experts. While we research each case, the show is recorded live with little to no editing; any factual errors are unintentional. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Listener discretion is advised. Guest and audience views are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the hosts.Speakers:→ Adrienne Barker — Host→ Joseph Lobosco — Host→ Debbie Dowling-Wahba — Guest Contributor→ Amanda Yoa — Guest Contributor→ Shea — Guest Contributor→ Angiesworld — Guest ContributorCredits:“Debate The News: True Crime”"A Body and a Blizzard: The Trials of Karen Read - PART 2"Created by: Jonathan Bing, Adrienne Barker and Joseph R. LoboscoProducers: Adrienne Barker, Joseph R. Lobosco, Danielle Paci and Jonathan BingWriters: Joseph R. Lobosco & Adrienne BarkerEditor: Joseph R. LoboscoCover Art: Joseph R. LoboscoSpecial Thanks: Nelson, Lea, Nawzil, and the entire Chatter Social teamTheme Song: Alaina Cross — “Karma” [NCS Release]Music provided by NoCopyrightSoundsFree Download/Stream: ncs.io/karmaWatch: ncs.lnk.to/karmaAT/youtube🎧 A Debate the News: True Crime ProductionDownload the Chatter Social app: (for iOS / for Android).This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podtrac - https://analytics.podtrac.com/privacy-policy-gdrp

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