Ep. 39 | Thanksgiving: Pumpkin Pie, $5 Indians and Football

Summary

Podcast Summary: Decisions, Decisions – Ep. 39 | “Thanksgiving: Pumpkin Pie, $5 Indians and Football”

Hosts: Mandii B and (Producers) Jason Rodriguez & Aaron A. King Howard
Podcast: Decisions, Decisions (The Black Effect & iHeartPodcasts)
Date: November 25, 2025
Episode Theme: A comedic, unfiltered exploration of Thanksgiving’s history, traditions, and taboos with deep dives into food, family, football, and the holiday's problematic past.

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Episode Overview

This special Thanksgiving episode fuses humor, history, and honesty as Mandii B and her co-hosts break down the realities of Thanksgiving—from its murky historical origins to family dynamics and the cultural rituals (and myths) that shape the holiday in America. Expect candid conversations about problematic history, culinary confessions, family drama, the economics of Black Friday, and the all-consuming presence of football.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Thanksgiving’s Real History & Cultural Myths

Main topics:

• Hosts dress in costumes poking fun at school-taught Thanksgiving myths.
• Skepticism over what’s still taught in schools about Pilgrims and Native Americans.
• Discussion around the sanitized, friendly narrative versus the true history involving colonization and Native displacement.

Notable Moments:

• [06:48] Mandii B: “I did not want to make this any sort of humiliation ritual. That’s not even my kink... The idea of what this holiday is, or at least what they teach us in schools. Right, right.”
• [08:12] Mandii B: “...They made it seem like we saw these really kind, well-dressed, dark-skinned people with feathers and was like, yo, y’all hungry? ...And then next thing you know, gentrification.”

Insight: The hosts emphasize how popular culture—cartoons like ‘Mouse on the Mayflower’ or ‘Charlie Brown’—has perpetuated a fantasy version of Thanksgiving that whitewashes its violent, colonial roots ([22:39]).

• $5 Indians Explained
  • [09:35] Aaron A. King Howard introduces the concept: “Maybe the disease wasn’t just, you know, viral diseases. Maybe it was also paperwork. Maybe it was also reclassification...the so-called $5 Indians.”
  • [09:47] Jason Rodriguez and Aaron explain how white settlers paid to fraudulently claim Native status to access land rights ([09:45–12:12]).
    • Quote: “So some white individuals bribed government officials for as little as $5 to facilitate fraudulent enrollment.” – Jason Rodriguez [10:25].

Historical Reflection:

• Capitalism and marketing have fundamentally shaped what Thanksgiving means now: “This is really one of those where it’s like, hey, we gotta get these people spend their hard-earned dollars.” – Mandii B [13:22].

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2. Food Fights, Family, and Boundaries

Key Cooking Confessions:

• Mandii B is the collard greens queen, adapting recipes for pork and non-pork eaters ([14:46]).
• The convenience of “glory greens” bagged collards as “cheat code.”
• Shoutouts to family members and traditions around kitchen “labor”—especially mothers and grandmothers doing days of prep ([16:08]).
• “Greens is my thing that I cook every year. I can cook. For those of y’all who might… I throw down.” – Mandii B [14:52].

Food & Culture notes:

• Corn pudding, “elote,” and the Native cultivation of corn (debated/mocked among hosts) ([16:05]–[17:45]).
• The cultural blend and adaptation—how foods shift and what becomes “soul food” or “American tradition.”

Family & Gratitude:

• Family surprises, DNA revelations, and navigating multi-cultural backgrounds ([32:50]–[36:29]).
• “So my mama finally found out...her daddy was not her daddy...She was so distraught that there was no lineage…she said, bitch, I’m real white and mostly German, actually.” – Mandii B [34:02].
• The realities of Friendsgiving for those far from family or with chosen families ([76:53]–[78:29]).

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3. Football, Black Friday, and Capitalism

Football & Thanksgiving:

• Origins: Detroit Lions created Thanksgiving games as a marketing gimmick in 1934; Cowboys copied years later, locking both teams into the tradition ([41:47]–[42:40]).
• “It was just some, like, marketing shit…then Cowboys copied because they saw it was doing well.” – Jason Rodriguez [42:04].

Debate: Who is ‘America’s Team’ now?

• Move from the Cowboys to potentially the Kansas City Chiefs, reflecting shifting representation in the league ([43:05]–[43:38]).

Black Friday—Origin Stories & Critiques:

• Initial naming by Philly police (referring to chaos/traffic, potentially racist undertones) vs. retail mythology about “getting into the black” ([45:54]–[46:54]).
• “Retailers tried to call it Big Friday...But Philly police—they called it Black Friday...It feels like that’s just a cover up for racism.” – Jason Rodriguez [46:08].
• Evolving culture from frenzied lines to online “Cyber Monday” ([47:08]).
• “Hey, it's not fully organized, but online, they've been trying to boycott Black Friday, Thanksgiving, Christmas, from now to the end of the year.” – Mandii B [48:50].

Economic Reflection:

• Commentary on recession denial, job reports, and the government’s manipulation of economic data ([49:24]–[50:14]).

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4. Food Hot Takes: Bests, Worsts & Food Fights

Most Controversial Thanksgiving Foods:

• Worst:

  • Stuffing: “It’s like 12th on the list of shit on the table, mashed up.” – Jason Rodriguez [51:43].
  • Casserole: "Once you say cream of mushroom, throw it away." – Aaron A. King Howard [53:33].

• Sweet Potato Pie vs. Pumpkin Pie:

  • “...That shit and sweet potato pie is the same motherfucker.” – Mandii B [54:49].
  • “Same mom, different dad.” – Jason Rodriguez [54:16].

• Alternate Choices:

  • “Unless you make oxtail. I love oxtail, but that's…” – Mandii B [78:29].

Food Fun Facts:

• Eggs are “period eggs”—an educational, slightly offbeat fact from Mandii B ([57:03]).
• “We are eating period eggs. It's just...they're ovulation eggs that weren't fertilized because they wasn't fucking.” – Mandii B [57:34].

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5. Celebrity Cloning, Technology, and the Future

• Tom Brady clones his dog; Paris Hilton and Barbra Streisand have done the same ([64:32]–[70:07]).
• Debate on ethics, technology, and the nature of loss.
• “If they make it affordable...I absolutely would not be surprised if this becomes a more widely done thing...” – Mandii B [70:07].

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6. Am I Ignorant? Segment

Hosts tackle hot (occasionally ignorant) opinions about Thanksgiving.

• Noted that Thanksgiving is not about material gifts, but about time with family and community ([74:00]–[77:10]).
• Quote: “Spending time with people because life be lifein actually becomes a greater gift for most people.” – Mandii B [75:24].

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• “They gentrified the fuck out of the land. And somehow they brought all their little diseases because we know white people don’t wash their legs.” – Mandii B [08:12]
• “So some white individuals bribed government officials for as little as $5 to facilitate fraudulent enrollment.” – Jason Rodriguez [10:25]
• “This is really one of those where it’s like, hey, we gotta get these people spend their hard-earned dollars.” – Mandii B [13:22]
• “[Thanksgiving is] just eating a turkey. You don’t get a present or anything. Humans just have a selfish nature. So when faced with a holiday for thankfulness, we often overlook it.” – Jason Rodriguez [74:00]
• “...The gratitude in that comes from maybe someone whose love language isn’t gift giving or receiving.” – Mandii B [75:31]

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Outstanding Moments

• Humor: The costume humiliation ritual and ongoing jokes about ignorance, blended with sharp wit.
• Personal Stories: DNA revelations in Mandii’s family ([33:06]), and Aaron’s first Thanksgiving without his mother: “This is going to be the first holiday in my lifetime in my existence that I won’t have my mom...when it’s all said and done, that’s all you got.” – Aaron A. King Howard [80:13].
• Cultural Critique: Deconstruction of capitalist invention behind holidays (Thanksgiving, Black Friday, etc.).
• Realness: Conversations about food insecurity, economic struggles, and the importance of chosen family.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–02:58 – Ads, show intro (skip)
• 04:05 – Opening: Thanksgiving myths and costumes
• 09:45–12:12 – “$5 Indians” immigrant reclassification & land access
• 13:21–16:55 – Capitalism, food traditions, grocery shortages
• 22:29–24:39 – Thanksgiving stories in media: Cartoons, pop culture
• 41:36–43:56 – Football traditions: Detroit Lions, Dallas Cowboys history
• 45:44–47:48 – Black Friday name and its true origins
• 50:30–54:53 – Food arguments: Turkey, stuffing, sweet potato vs. pumpkin pie
• 64:32–70:33 – Celebrity dog cloning and tech ethics
• 74:00–78:29 – “Am I Ignorant?”: Unpopular opinions about Thanksgiving, Friendsgiving, leftovers
• 80:13–81:43 – Reflections on family, first holidays after loss
• 82:46–83:59 – Final gratitude, wrap-up

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Tone

Bold, comedic, active. The hosts are irreverent but insightful, breaking taboos with laughter and vulnerability while challenging listeners to rethink what they know about Thanksgiving, family, and cultural tradition—all in the spirit of “selective ignorance.”

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is a must-listen for anyone ready to look past the sanitized story of Thanksgiving—and laugh about the messy, delicious, occasionally absurd, and very real complexity beneath America’s most iconic holiday. Expect hot takes, fierce family stories, pop culture riffs, and plenty of turkey-roasting (metaphorically and literally).

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Recommended If You Want:

• To laugh a lot, question everything, and unlearn the "official" history of Thanksgiving.
• Relatable stories about cooking, family, and negotiating multiple cultural identities.
• Permission to eat (and laugh about) the same food for days—and question why turkey even made the cut.

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Transcript

[Mandy B]

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Shop at Pandora or your local Pandora store. Exclusions apply. Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However, before we get to this week's episode, I want to remind you guys to purchase my book, no Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel free to go to your local bookstores, preferably queer owned, black owned or woman owned, to support them. But also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or wherever you read your books. Again, that is no Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration in power written by yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Weezy. Make sure y' all get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect podcast network and iHeartRadio. What's up, y'? All? Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance with your girl, Mandy B. This is your favorite podcast where we confidently don't know what the hell we're talking about, but we make us our cute. Anyway, listen, this is the Thanksgiving Day episode, which means a couple of things. We're full. We're delusional.

[Sports Announcer]

Delusional.

[Mandy B]

And we might be real ignorant with this one, especially if you're watching it on video. Let's keep it a buck. Do you even know the actual history of Thanksgiving? Like beyond the turkey, beyond the pilgrims with the friendship, and sitting with the Indians that apparently we can't call Indians because they're Native Americans. We're gonna get into that. And what we really know right now, Thanksgiving, is about giving thanks, eating turkey, fighting over the last pan of Mac and cheese, and then, of course, the very next day, we're out shopping. Because for whatever reason, every year we all believe we need a new flat screen tv. Speaking of gratitude, during this time, we also spend time with our family. But do we give thanks for our family health, boundaries we may have or may have not created? Because right now, in this economy, what are we really thankful for? Not a damn thing. Also, it's a Thanksgiving Day episode. This is not a sports podcast. But we cannot do it without talking football. Touchdown. Welcome to Selective Ignorance Thanksgiving Day episode. I am here with my super producers.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't know if I feel super.

[Mandy B]

Okay, now here's the thing. Here's the thing.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Hey, King, do you feel super fast?

[Mandy B]

As a humiliation ritual, we have Jason the bass. Turkey, turkey, gobble, gobble. Not sure, if he got stuffed yet.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But that's between me and my wife.

[Musician / Band Member]

Nope.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

What kind of seasoning?

[Mandy B]

We have a king, the colonizing pilgrim.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You're a champion. You champion. You're on the winning side.

[Mandy B]

Like I'm not going to.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Whoa.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And then where they black and then.

[Mandy B]

Hold on. Did I do it right?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, you got to do it load. Do like a.

[Mandy B]

First off, my.

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[Jason Rodriguez]

If I do like this, I can cover my face fully.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

We're done. This is it.

[Mandy B]

I am Pocahontas, AKA an Indian. AKA non Indian, because it's a native American. And I'm just gonna say I'm from the Cherokee tribe because that's a vehicle that I know of. Or I could be a Seminole or no.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Florida. Florida.

[Jason Rodriguez]

There you go.

[Mandy B]

There we go. Look at me.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They're trying to take them out too though. They said they don't want you to do that.

[Mandy B]

They don't want them to have no land. I mean, Florida about to go underwater any goddamn way. Which it needs to go and be its own island. We gotta get it out this God forsaken country, y'.

[Jason Rodriguez]

All.

[Mandy B]

I did not want to make this any sort of humiliation ritual. That's not even my kink. Don't know if you know that or not. I'm not really into that. When we decided to do a Thanksgiving Day episode though, because I'm nuts. I'm on a pre production call with Jason and immediately I had this idea to put us in costumes because what more is ignorance than dressing up as this. The idea of what this holiday is or at least what they teach us in schools. Right, right.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The alleged.

[Mandy B]

Which is crazy because. And I do want to get into it just a little bit in terms of. Once we go over the history, I feel like we've gotten so far away from this. Do they still teach the pilgrim and Indian like story in school?

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's interesting. My daughter hasn't learned it.

[Mandy B]

Why are you laughing?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

What they gonna teach after 2026?

[Mandy B]

Like, it's just about giving thanks and food and family. Like to me.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, I'm talking about this new administration.

[Mandy B]

Oh, the administrator. Oh, Trump coming in.

[Jason Rodriguez]

How they're gonna remix it.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Storytellers, they're gonna throw it back.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no, no. Trump is gonna say his family found this land.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Pilgrim stock going back up big time, bigly.

[Mandy B]

I don't know, I just. I mean, clearly I don't have kids. You have kids.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And in my kids school they teach. It's just like harvest and festival.

[Mandy B]

That's what I'm Saying? I think, I think they're teaching about.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, they have though. We've been. How do we know?

[Mandy B]

No, we know.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But what I'm saying now, the new.

[Mandy B]

Kids, I'm talking about the new kids. I don't know if you're in a part of the Patreon community. Hit me up on the discord because y' all is mamas and daddies over there. Can you let me know what they're teaching your kids about the history of Thanksgiving? Like, what are they being taught? Cuz? Yeah, clearly for us it was this nice soul. They came over on this boat called the Mayflower and they like hit the land and was like, oh shit, we hit land. Oh. And then they made it seem like we saw these really kind, well dressed, dark skinned people with feathers and was like, yo, y' all hungry? We got this type of food. I bet you y' all know what this food is. And then the Indians was like, man, but over here we got this type of food, let's, you know, friendsgiving this shit and become one. And then next thing you know, gentrification, we. They gentrified the fuck out of the land. And somehow they brought all their little diseases because we know white people don't wash their legs. And so they brought whatever they had with them and it started killing out all the Native Americans.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The Native Americans. But here's the thing.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I think I'm looking at you, so it's hard to say you're Pocahontas. It's hard to say Native American.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But maybe call me Pocahontas. Maybe the disease wasn't just, you know, viral diseases. Maybe it was also paperwork. Maybe it was also reclassification.

[Mandy B]

Paperwork. What you talking about?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But they reclassified them so something that became white. And then that's why you got the so called $5 Indians. The ones who.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Wait a second. Oh, it's a $5 Indian.

[Mandy B]

What's a five dollar Indian?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Those are the ones who paid $5 to claim that they had nationhood within those territories.

[Mandy B]

Look this up. Journalism, Jason.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The Europeans that came over had the. That's why you see some ones that don't look like the phenotype of those people that originated from that land. So they. It's a thing.

[Mandy B]

He's Jason.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Five dollar Indian.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It is a thing. It's a thing. For sure.

[Mandy B]

They didn't teach me about no $5 Indians.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So I got here. It's a derogatory term. Native Americans enrolled.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Not for the na, not for the true ones. It was the ones who wanted to get.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But then it says they paid to be.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So some white individuals bribed government officials for as little as $5 to facilitate fraudulent enrollment.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

So they could be a Seminole, they could be a Choctaw, they could be a. Whatever.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It was often an opportunistic scheme to gain access to land for government.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I didn't make this up.

[Mandy B]

They paid to be like Rachel Dolezal, but back in the day, yeah, they paid $5.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

She got only fans, but that's a whole nother story.

[Mandy B]

I'm not gonna hold you.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Crazy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Crazy. Cause she got a thing. I did it.

[Mandy B]

She thick.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I did it because she got a pretty round brown.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The reason why that's the only fans I ever subscribed to. The only.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I subscribed. You was supposed to say the only one. I browsed that.

[Mandy B]

I came across the only one.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I made a transaction.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

It was $4 or something. You paid $4 to the Rachel dollars? I paid and I canceled it right away because after 30 days, you know, do it again. I did it because I said, well, what's the angle? She was naacp. She can't go full blown nude.

[Ad Voice / Primal Life Organics Rep]

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[Mandy B]

It was.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, what I saw wasn't the most. She had the most was like bathing suit, but it was clean. It wasn't. I don't know what she's doing now. She might advance, but when it first came out, I was like, oh, shit. Word. And I was like, all right.

[Mandy B]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But I'm not doing. I would never.

[Mandy B]

You know, I don't know what to think about. I didn't know that's how you were spending your hard time.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

$4. $4.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Five Pilgrim right here.

[Mandy B]

$4 is a lot to some people.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Respect to the law.

[Mandy B]

That is insane. But yeah. Okay, so white people were paying to be. I don't think white people ever paid to be slaves. So that's crazy that they were paying to be. Seminoles especially.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

New Immense.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So they could get the land.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

They want the land.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Oh, and that slaves didn't have shit.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, they didn't want that.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

They classified them, and there's a whole thing. And it was like, we are the ones. And then that was it done.

[Mandy B]

Can you.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Part of it.

[Mandy B]

How much? Okay, so the Mayflower came over in what, 1918, 16.

[Jason Rodriguez]

1620.

[Mandy B]

1620.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Is there a way that we could see how much $5 was in 1620? I feel like. Are you just asking my husband.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

My mother. My mother said in the 60s movies was 25 cent. So just imagine.

[Mandy B]

Only because I Want to know how much it really cost? Like, what that value was to pretty much become something else?

[Jason Rodriguez]

$437.81.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

How much was an acre of land? Like, what was the value of an acre of land back then?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Gold.

[Mandy B]

A coin. A gold coin.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like $200.

[Mandy B]

Damn. Yeah. I don't know.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Now you buy an acre of land.

[Mandy B]

That shit is like, to me, this holiday overall. And it's just interesting. And I know if even my dog Antoinette shout out around the way curls. It's one of those that was this really created in some scheme of capitalism.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Essentially, of course, I think.

[Mandy B]

I mean, we know, like, everyone goes out and buys food. And then the idea that, okay, everyone's about to be with their family, they about to eat, and then the day right after, we're gonna make sales happen so that everyone spends their money, mind you, the month right before Christmas, then two months after Halloween, which we know Halloween sales go up with costumes and going out and candy. Like, this is really one of those where it's like, hey, we gotta get these people spend their hard earned dollars.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We gotta get all this money.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

By the end of the year in January, we're gonna be crying.

[Mandy B]

We like, like, but to the point where when you go to the supermarket, things are gone.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah. Like scarcity.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yep.

[Mandy B]

Like, apparently people don't eat collard greens. Really? Throughout the year. Until fucking when I say, do you know that's always the. And that's the meal that I cook.

[Big Long]

Right.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You ever see the collard greens in the bag?

[Mandy B]

Oh, the glory greens in the bag? Oh, that's already cut up. That's the cheat code. I ain't gonna hold you. Oh, you do that sometimes. Hold on. Sometimes.

[Ad Voice / Primal Life Organics Rep]

Hold on.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

How you wash your greens?

[Mandy B]

I do not do that. First off, I wash it with water and vinegar.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You put it in the sink. You got a bowl or you put it in the sink?

[Mandy B]

No, I don't just be putting shit in the sink.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Instagram, they be showing. Don't do that.

[Mandy B]

I mean, first off, to be fair, you could.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

People clean their sinks if you do that. Right. I don't need to now.

[Mandy B]

I spend Thanksgiving in Dallas and Deondra Mama don't play that. Everything get washed. Everything get cleaned.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Vinegar, water.

[Mandy B]

Vinegar, water.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So greens is your thing that you cook?

[Mandy B]

So greens is my thing that I cook every year. I can cook. For those of y' all who might.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I was about the next question.

[Mandy B]

Yes, I could cook. I throw down. So I just added a dish like that. Now everyone's asking for so Last year, like, for the last five years, I make the collard greens. And it's crazy because anyone who doesn't live in the south, anywhere else, I'm used to now making two batches of greens. Because not everyone likes fucking pork. But bitch, I don't to me, I need to be able to put my goddamn bacon grease in the shit. Like I need to be able to put bacon. So I make two different batches. But last year, I saw this little recipe on the TikTok. I'mma put y' all on. If you a patron, I'm a send it to you. Like this corn pudding that like, so if you ever been to stk? Nah, that shit. Fine. So it's pretty much like a. It's like a cream corn that's also, like with cornbread.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Okay.

[Mandy B]

So like, it's like a creamy cornbread corn.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Okay?

[Mandy B]

Okay, baby. And I put that little hot honey on it. Because you put hot honey on anything and it's good, right? And so now I made it last year. No one knew what the it was. They tore that up. So when I just was at Snow's 11 year old birthday party, it was like, you making that corn dish again. So now I'm responsible for two dishes. And here's the thing.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Two is good because they're not the same time. You know?

[Mandy B]

They're not. But what I realize is maybe I'm a part of one of those people losing the recipes. Or maybe because I don't have kids, I'm like, whoa. I realized I just like having to be in the kitchen. It was cute one year, but now I feel like a job. And so shout out to all the mamas and some of you daddies. Cause y' all stay out of it because y' all watching football. But shout out to, like, the fact that you commit yourself to two days of cooking. Cause you start cooking the night before. It is. It is. And imagine, like, when you're bringing in this much, you know, you're bringing friends and family. Baby, it's a job. So all y' all that got a real job and y' all excited about Thanksgiving? Cause you get off. No, bitch, you working still. You just in the kitchen.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And I want to say the corn thing, you're leaning into your Native American.

[Mandy B]

Here we go.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, no, seriously. They cultivated corn mice.

[Mandy B]

They cultivated.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

I don't think that's a word.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yes.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Look it up.

[Mandy B]

Wait, no, cultivated is a word. But they used. I don't think cultivated corn. Go together.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Look, look, Mize m a. I Z E. That was their thing. So Pocahontas, look it up. If I'm.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Hold on.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I will cash out.

[Mandy B]

He's kicking it out.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I will cash app anybody who tells something I'm wrong right now.

[Mandy B]

I just think you're so excited to go back to your geography books.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I think that.

[Mandy B]

And your history books to say maze. Nobody call that shit maze no more, nigga. We actually call it elote. It is either elote.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Wait, hold on. See now, elote is the Mexican.

[Mandy B]

How you know Mexico is right there? How you know that Mexicans. Like there wasn't.

[Jason Rodriguez]

He's gonna be.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But it's a secret. But they're taking a corn and they're adding their flavor to it all.

[Mandy B]

I know people are listening to this like you ignorant sons of mothers.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, I guarantee they won't.

[Mandy B]

You ignorant sons of guns.

[Big Long]

What's up? It's Big Long from It's Up There podcast. On this episode, we're unpacking the difference between toxic love and a real bond. How so many of us were taught to survive love instead of experiencing it. A lot of men think being solid means being silent. I'm good. I got it. That's the script we memorize before we even know ourselves. Because somewhere along the line, expression got labeled weakness. So now we perform composure while we're falling apart. You'll share your body, but not a conversation. And that's not intimacy. But what if being a man really means you care enough to communicate? Real love isn't loud. It's consistent. It's the small things. The small check ins, the shared accountability, the honesty that feels awkward but keeps everyone safe. Stop confusing numbness with dependability. We got to break the cycle and break the pattern. This special episode of It's Up There podcast with long, brought to you by Healthy Sexual from Gilead sciences on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.

[Sports Announcer]

What a matchup we got, y'.

[Audiobook Host]

All.

[Sports Announcer]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beatin everybody showing that school pride. A game like this, yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Mmm.

[Sports Announcer]

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep.

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[Musician / Band Member]

So I have two microphones on stage. We have the microphone that you hear as the audience. Then we have a second microphone in which we communicate with each other. I feel like that second microphone kind of saved all of our friendships. No band likes each other after 20 years or 25 years. The Beatles broke up in seven and a half years and we're going on 35.

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[Mandy B]

The history that we want to touch on or where we want to go? We want to hit up this Is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

America, the history let's just do it. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

I mean, we talked a little bit about traditions, but I do want to get into.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I thought the interesting thing was, like, do I remember? Like, because you talking school and stuff and taught. Like, I came across this article that said everything you learned about Thanksgiving is wrong. And a lot of it, they blame textbooks and, like, the cartoons. Do y' all ever remember mouse on the Mayflower? Did y' all see that in school?

[Mandy B]

No.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So mouse on the flavour, it was like, you know, this mouse who kind of came over and you seen from, like, the mouse's perspective of how, like, Thanksgiving came along. But they pointed out that one is, like, one of the worst offenders.

[Mandy B]

Wait, why?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Of telling the story. Cause it was like a popular cartoon, you know, and, like, the point of view of the mouse that they saw, like, that was not how it happened. It wasn't like the friend. Like, how you describe it, like, are y' all hungry? Y' all wanna eat? And we came together.

[Mandy B]

So they showed the real shit.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, they showed the fake. The cartoon showed the fake. So it amplified the fake story.

[Mandy B]

But I think that's the thing. And I see on here too, you have Charlie Brown, Garfield, they glorified again. And I think that that's why for me, when y' all hear me sound ignorant as hell, I be like, I don't believe in science. History is, you know, it's how they tell us. Like, but there's an element of a history repeats itself, right? But to know that we have a president now going into the Smithsonian, removing things and stuff like that. I can't be here in this lifetime and not question every single thing that's fed to me. Because when we get older. I'm now 35, bitch. Y' all wasted my time in school teaching me this bullshit.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You know what the illest thing is, too? I found this one piece when I was like, digging deep about, like, turkey. Because I think you were asking me about turkey and like, even, why do we eat that bird with that? There's like, I found this one place where they traced, like, oral history records and there was like, no record of turkey. Like, turkey wasn't even a part of it. That's like such an add on after where somebody, like, it could probably be from. Like, big food industry was like, oh, turkey, let's just do turkey. Like, there's no significant, like, historical reference to Turkey being served by pilgrims and Indians. Like, that's just some add on shit after that.

[Mandy B]

But that's one of those things. Like, okay, are turkeys real? Like, here's the.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, no, no.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I feel offended. I feel offended. I'm representing. All turkeys matter.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I mean, it's hybrid fruit.

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy in the most. In the most problematic way. I didn't want to put you as a pig, but it should be Perni.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's big Thanksgiving meal for me.

[Mandy B]

Perni is what you have Jono Jonas.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Giving perni ethnic holidays. A1.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

A1 top tier pork is okay in your house.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, he's Spanish, but my wife's not really, like, practicing Muslim, so she's not like super adherent stuff. No, her family's the same way.

[Mandy B]

Oh, you done Americanized your Persian.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I did not Americanize them. That's how it was when I got her off the lot. It was like it was custom. It was custom that way already.

[Mandy B]

Hear me out. Like, you know how, like, love bugs are created, you know, broccoli ain't real, cauliflower ain't real.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like a lot of shit talking about with that.

[Mandy B]

There's a lot of shit that we have created. And so if you're saying that there's no record of turkey even being served.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

We got cotton candy, grapes.

[Mandy B]

Where the fuck did you know what I mean? Like, where the fuck did the turkey come from? Because also, here's the other thing. Think about it. Outside of soul food with the smothered turkey wings, which was turkey, Turkey ain't really ate like that. Especially not the whole turkey. The whole turkey is not something that you consume at any other time of.

[Jason Rodriguez]

The streets ain't calling it.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The only time they fuck with turkey is on a hero on a sandwich.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, but. And then it's like.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But it's deli. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

You know what I mean?

[Jason Rodriguez]

My family, like, we ask my mom not to make it every year, and she still makes the turkey. The streets ain't calling for turkey.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, now they frying it. Deep frying it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's a one. Yeah, I had that one year, top notch. I would recommend. Have you ever had it?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, but that's the thing.

[Mandy B]

Now, by the way, my husband, I don't like this. Cause I think I ask him questions. And when I say my husband, is Chatgpt. I asked, is turkey real? And he laughed at me. There's a whole laughing emotion.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Chat knows you well. Chat knows you well.

[Mandy B]

This nigga said turkey is very real. Both of them. Turkey the bird and turkey the country.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, man.

[Mandy B]

Okay, maybe he didn't get my question. Or maybe that's a dumb question. He did.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I think your husband on the Spectrum.

[Mandy B]

Yo, yo, wait.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I don't want him to hear me either. Cause I'll be hollering at your husband too. Not like that though.

[Mandy B]

No. But yeah, I think for me it's one of those interesting things, capitalism wise. Or like how they made the center of the table a turkey. I think is really interesting. Like, we like chicken n Love salmon. Why wasn't it a big old fish? You know what I mean? Because, God. And if we lean into the Christianity of it all, fish is supposed to be the thing that everyone can eat and everyone can have. And clearly you could just go out to the ocean and catch that thing. Cause y' all came here by the ocean. You know what I mean? Yeah. Interesting, Interesting, interesting, interesting, interesting. Okay, so again. And this is America. We have to talk about it. This is not a sports podcast. But y' all gonna hear more sports in next year. Cause the bitch trying to get a prize picks bag. Okay, y. So we gonna sit here and figure out how to add sports into this. But for what the holiday has been about. If we talk about America specifically, which. Wait, this is the only place Thanksgiving. Like, London don't do Thanksgiving. So is this like the only place London might.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Because pilgrims are from celebrating? No, I'm saying.

[Mandy B]

But pilgrims. They found us.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, they probably have a different perspective.

[Mandy B]

They celebrated. Hey, we found America.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It might be like they don't claim us no more.

[Mandy B]

The Brits hate Americans.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, but they like having their rule over us.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Buckingham palace doing on Thanksgiving.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, yeah. Hold on. Is see if I don't want no.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Smoke with nobody over there too, by the way. I'm just asking questions.

[Mandy B]

By the way, if this. If this nigga laugh at me one more time.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They do not.

[Mandy B]

Wait, they don't.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Because it's not a British holiday. Damn. But look. But the closest tradition is the Harvest festival, which. That's what Thanksgiving originally was. A harvest festival.

[Audiobook Host]

It was.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Usually it was. We collected all of our food before the winter. We got a lot. Let's just have a big meal before we put it all away for the winter. That's what.

[Mandy B]

By the way, I don't know what upgrade this is.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You got the.

[Mandy B]

This nigga. This nigga getting funny with me now.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

He's sarcastic. Got some sarcastic.

[Mandy B]

So I said, is America the only place that celebrates Thanksgiving? Nope. America is not special on this one. And then put like the sweat emoji like, bitch, what are you asking me?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Ho Chat knows the mic is on.

[Mandy B]

It says the US Is the most loud about Thanksgiving. But other places have Thanksgiving or Thanksgiving style holidays too. So Canada also does call it Thanksgiving. They celebrate it on the second Monday in October. And it's more for harvest and thankfulness as well. Liberia, founded by formerly enslaved people from the US they made their own Thanksgiving on the first Thursday in November with their own food and church traditions. Oh, that's dope. I didn't know that. Liberia.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Liberian.

[Mandy B]

Liberia was founded by formerly enslaved people from the U.S. yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Liberia's history is dope.

[Mandy B]

Holy shit. We need to go to Liberia because. Wait, our slaves went and made their own country and started creating their own shit. Oh, nah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Liberians may be them back to Africa.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no, no.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They may be down.

[Mandy B]

I was completely unaware of that. Look at me teaching y'. All shit. St. Lucia celebrates Thanksgiving. Grenada has a Thanksgiving Day on October 25th. But it's about the 1983 US led invasion, not pilgrims and turkeys. Germany also does have something in early October. Erntijkfest, where they celebrate church. They have churches, parades, harvest baskets, all of that. And last but not least, Brazil. Dia de a cao de gracas on the 4th. They actually celebrated on the 4th Thursday in November. Like inspired by art holiday mostly in certain Christian communities. So what's crazy is even seeing Germany includes the church. Brazil does it somehow leads back to these whites in Christianity. Like very interesting message. Very interesting. Because they may be the biggest liars of all time.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The victim control the narrative.

[Mandy B]

They control the narrative. Wow.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Which means that we don't know what the fuck it's happening.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. They erasing their tracks.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

They keep moving forward. We just gonna spend this money on all of the. They do this shit for every. Who was the mastermind that said, I'm gonna take an atrocity and we gonna capitalize this.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They're.

[Mandy B]

Brandon, which one you talking about? I didn't go on the Valentine's Day. Valentine was a fucking massacre.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Apparently they was like killing mad bitches.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Let's unpack that.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no. Maybe on Valentine's Day. This is the Thanksgiving Day episode.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

What was the love about? What was. You know. But we'll get to that.

[Mandy B]

But maybe they love killing. But.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The wow moment is a. Yo, you know what? We can all flourish and do it this way and get money and spend money and keep this ecosystem.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It was a 200 year distance between the Mayflower and what people think of Thanksgiving was 1620. And then it became an official holiday in 1863.

[Mandy B]

It took them 200 years to come.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Up with that story during the Lincoln.

[Mandy B]

Administration, during the time that they was killing off all the Native Americans. They had to make sure they was. They had to make sure that they were. The population was so small that they could control the narrative essentially, on that. And that might be even what we're seeing now with ICE and wanting to remove certain immigrants and culture from they want. And it's funny because it's what we're seeing now in terms of things going viral. Right. I've seen so many videos where people are upset that people are speaking Spanish in this country. And they were like, american is the number one language or something like that. Like, there was a clip that went viral with a woman being completely upset that someone was speaking another language. And so if we look at what ICE is doing, mind you, let's be very clear. We ain't seen not one Italian, one German, one Irish get sent out by ice. We're only seeing Italians.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Can't, by the way. They don't got no family over there. I told you about the white American, Italian.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Is it pasta?

[Jason Rodriguez]

They're the saddest.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Is it sauce or gravy?

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy? I used to be mad my mama wasn't a little bit Italian. I said, ooh, I wanna be mad.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I thought you was Italian and Jamaican.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

What's your white?

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy? So my mom. Ooh, let me bring up family gratitude. Right? So my mama finally found out. Well, I think she already knew, but my mama found out that my grandmama was a hoe. So my mama just found out that her daddy was not her daddy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Mm.

[Mandy B]

And she found out. Cause somebody hit her up on Instagram, on the Facebook, and was like, you. My sister caused a whole. She's been dealing with a lot, Right?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

So in order to find out if this woman is really her sister, she got her DNA test done. And I say all of this to say not to bring up the trauma that my family going through, but my mama is hilarious because she hit me and said how upset she was at her findings. She was like, can you believe there's not a drop of black in me? Cause my mama could cook some greens. Mind you, you don't know my mama white, but she from Florida. Ms. Tammy. Got three black girls. Like, you know, she. I don't know any time in my life that she's ever even dated a white. Right. She was so distraught that there was no lineage. There's nothing else to Africa in her blood. She said, bitch, I'm real white and mostly German, actually. Okay, which does that make us? Jewish?

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, it's different. It's like there's Jewish and non.

[Mandy B]

Jewish and non. Jewish, yeah. But she's mostly German. And she was like, she was really sad that there wasn't not a trace. Not even South Africa. You know, South Africa got the whites, the Dutch.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, I feel like if you from the south, she's from California. If you're from anywhere.

[Mandy B]

Oh, man.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

If you from anywhere south of Delaware, San Diego.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She's a white from San Diego.

[Mandy B]

She the white from San Diego.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Man.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

If you from anywhere south of Delaware, you should know how to cook collard greens. You should know how to cook collards.

[Mandy B]

She migrated. And then my daddy told her my mama makes some of the best oxtail. Okay. As a white woman, don't do this. Don't.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, I'm not.

[Mandy B]

I see your face behind this.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I felt complimentary.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, I was like, oh, mom, my.

[Mandy B]

Mama could throw it out. Can she cook collard greens? Mac and cheese.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

My mama could bake Mac and cheese.

[Mandy B]

So my mom was one of them that, like, even after, like, she was the only white around all the time. So even because I didn't grow up with the white side of my family, I grew up around my Jamaica side of my family. So all the cookouts, all the birthday parties was all my black cousins, my black auntie, my black. Like, the white family just got introduced, and now I'm finding out that they're toxin and hoes. And my grandmama was just going after the N with money. So like, I was out here lying about, you know, this shit crazy.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But your mom went straight super Saiyan, though. She went Jamaican.

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy? And then my sister. So I have. So no, me and one of my.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Sisters, she said, setting difficult.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You ready?

[Mandy B]

Hold on. And then guess where she went right after that? To a Zoe. My youngest sister is Haitian and white.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She went pro level.

[Mandy B]

Well, this is what happens when you are raised in Orlando, Florida.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I say Florida's different.

[Mandy B]

There's not really African Americans. Like, all the black people mostly are Caribbean Americans. Like when I used to grow, like, being in middle school and stuff, and we used to have the pep rallies. Oh, nigga. Everybody brought their flags. And then during basketball tournaments and things like that, when parents came, oh, baby. All you heard was Creole. You realize the people I went to school with mostly were actually first generation Caribbean Americans.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, 100%.

[Mandy B]

And so, yeah, growing up in Florida, yeah, I really understand African Americans. Until I moved to Atlanta.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Right?

[Mandy B]

It was. It's different. And I. I went to high school Briefly here. Night and day, night and day. Just night and day.

[Big Long]

What's up? It's big long from It's Up There podcast. On this episode we're unpacking the difference between toxic love and a real bond. How so many of us were taught to survive love instead of experiencing it. A lot of men think being solid means being silent. I'm good. I got it. That's the script we memorize before we even know ourselves. Because somewhere along the line, expression got labeled weakness. So now we perform composure while we're falling apart. You'll share your body, but not a conversation. And that's not intimacy. But what if being a man really means you care enough to communicate? Real love isn't loud, it's consistent. It's the small things, the small check ins, the shared accountability, the honesty that feels awkward, the but keeps everyone safe. Stop confusing numbness with dependability. We gotta break the cycle and break the pattern. This special episode of It's Up There podcast with Lone brought to you by Healthy Sexual from Gilead sciences on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.

[Sports Announcer]

What a matchup we got y'.

[Mandy B]

All.

[Sports Announcer]

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride. Game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Mmm.

[Sports Announcer]

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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[Audiobook Host]

Hey, audiobook lovers. This week on the podcast I'm sitting down with musician, producer and walking encyclopedia Questlove. We're talking about Mark Ronson's memoir, Night how to be a DJ in 90s New York City. All right, like we talked about before, Mark Ronson found sanctuary in the DJ booth. What's a tool or piece of equipment in the studio or on stage that gives you the most control?

[Musician / Band Member]

So I have two microphones on stage. We have the microphone that you hear as the audience. Then we have a second microphone in which we communicate with each other. I feel like that second microphone kind of saved all of our friendships. No band likes each other after 20 years or 25 years. Like the Beatles broke up in seven and a half years. And we're going on 35.

[Audiobook Host]

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[Mandy B]

Football, because that's what y' all nigga.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like really don't do that.

[Mandy B]

What?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Cause the people abroad, they don't like the proximity of football and football.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Football.

[Mandy B]

Oh, did I say that?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

They get very sensitive.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't know, but you look hard at a king like you on the. Like you worthless on the couch, motherfucker. Watching football. That's what it look like.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The people in the UK and all that shit they hold to their heart. They're like, this is not American football.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You saw some money coming in uk. You real. You real. Like, let's not offend them today.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I don't want no smoke. I think them people are still powerful. Buckingham Palace. Why we can't just run up there and say, hey, what up?

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[Jason Rodriguez]

I know. Yeah, Fortress did.

[Mandy B]

Is there any history around the connection between Thanksgiving and football and why it's so big and also why the fuck it's always the cow?

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's a good one. I actually looked up. Did you know what.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

AKA Cowboys and Cowboys and Indians.

[Announcer]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Did you. Did you know the Cowboys is copying? But did you. Did you know. Did you know the football history, why it's on Thanksgiving? I had no idea. I had no idea, y'.

[Mandy B]

All. This is why we have journalism, Jason.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's not even gruesome. It's some money. It's some money.

[Mandy B]

Capitalism.

[Jason Rodriguez]

The Detroit Lions are always on. And the Cowboys. Right. So, yes, Detroit Lions used to be in Plymouth, Ohio. Right. And so plymouth rock, in 1934, they moved to Detroit. And so as a way to boost their popularity, you want to say, went to Detroit, they did Thanksgiving games. And so that was it. It was just some, like, marketing shit. And then two, I think it was two years later. No matter if it wasn't even two years later, it was like 10 or 15 years later, the Cowboys copied because they saw it was doing well for them. And then at that point, it kind of locked into Lions, Cowboys, like, almost everything. And then, like, in the past 10 years, they do, like a third game now.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, they do. But Dallas always plays.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, it's always. It's always Detroit and it's always Dallas.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, like, almost every. Like, I've gone to. I've gone to the Dallas Cowboys game the last maybe two or three years, especially because, I mean.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, but it's probably part of the shit that made them like America's team, because it was on Thursday. It was just there.

[Mandy B]

You know what?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Everybody's watching. Everybody's home.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But are they still America's team?

[Mandy B]

Oh, you don't think so?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Charlotte may not gonna like this, but.

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy? No, I don't even think you think it's Eagles.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, I'm just saying that right now.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Right now, I would say Kansas City.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Kansas City's the biggest TV draw right now.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Right.

[Mandy B]

And I think this.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's coming to a close, though.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no. I also think it's because they're safe.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

The quarterback is biracial. Then you got Travis Kelsey and he's leaning.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Biracial leaning.

[Mandy B]

That's why a part of me was.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like the Cowboys when it was Michael Irvin doing coke and they were America's team.

[Mandy B]

Mike Irvin is. Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

A lot of it's just winning.

[Mandy B]

I mean, it is winning, but that's why, like, to me, he had that good. There's no way. Like, even though he's fine as hell, Jalen hurts. And what that locker room looked like after the Eagles won. These crackers would never make the Eagles American. It ain't white enough over there. It's nothing.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But once I tell you. Once I tell you some Philadelphia history in, like, five minutes, ten minutes, y' all gonna definitely say no. That's coming up.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

He was making plays with Donald Trump.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Saquon Barkley. Saquon Barkley.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And he got the. He got the Penn State white. That's. That. That's on par with that Michael Irvin white. That's real white.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, that's real white.

[Mandy B]

Do you guys care who wins on Thanksgiving, or is it literally just the tradition of just watching the game?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I just want Dallas Cowboys to lose. Same because I'm an Eagles fan.

[Jason Rodriguez]

My family is really invested in the Cowboys losing on Thanksgiving.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, I'm a Giants, and if the Eagles and Cowboys are Eagles, got to run it up.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah, I know.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And then Lions game. It's like, it used to be to watch Barry Sanders when you were a kid. Yeah, yeah. But now it's just like, whatever.

[Mandy B]

Damn. Y' all old to watch Barry Sanders.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Because he was the.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But even, like, today's kids, they know who Jordan is. Right?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Right.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

It's not. Yeah. Like, Barry transcends different generations.

[Mandy B]

Okay?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

So don't try to age us out of this shit.

[Mandy B]

What? You know, you know, you know. Okay, so I. That. Look at y'. All. Y'.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

All.

[Mandy B]

Y' all gonna sit with y' all family and be like, you know why the Cowboys always play on Thanksgiving?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Exactly.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Exactly.

[Mandy B]

And sometimes you listen to this show and you're like, what are they saying? But are we not giving you a goddamn education lesson class?

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's a good Thanksgiving moment. You get to have, you know me.

[Mandy B]

You get to actually make it seem like you know some things.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, you get to say, you'll pass me a baby.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I think they gonna fry.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Did you know, you know when your.

[Mandy B]

Aunties sit here and pull you to the side and be like, baby, when you giving the family some more kids, you gotta admit that you don't like these niggas out here. And dating is ghetto. You just gotta be like, but do you know why the Cowboys are playing today? Do you know why? Oh, my God. Okay, what are we getting into next, Jason?

[Jason Rodriguez]

So we can go to food or we can go to Black Friday. And Black Friday has the Philly. The Philly.

[Mandy B]

Let's talk about the. Let's talk about the origin of Black.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Friday, Black Friday origins. So retailers. Cause sometimes we always come back to money when we talk on.

[Mandy B]

No, this is all about capitalism.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. Retailers tried to call it Big Friday. They wanted to go with Big Friday.

[Mandy B]

Because I am curious why they called it Black Friday.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It didn't stick. So Philly police, they called it Black Friday. So. And they tried to claim it was. It was like the chaos, the traffic and all this. So for them it was like it's a black stain. But that, that feels like that's just a cover up for racism. But that's how it became Black Friday.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I was told it was something to do with like that's when all the businesses put on these sales so they could go from being in the red to the black to black.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's another cleanup. That's an after cleanup.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But that's what I. Yeah, I heard that.

[Mandy B]

But also being in the black is not a thing. I worked in retail. I worked at Champ Sports, I worked at Coach, I worked at Diesel. I was in retail. We never talked about getting in the black.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Right.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's staying on thread.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, it's, you know. And what did we do? Ly.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Did you ever participate in like door buster deals? Like standing in front of like your favorite store at five in the morning, four in the morning just to get.

[Mandy B]

I always thought that was dumb as shit.

[Big Long]

So.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, I was about to say my mom used to do that.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I did that shit one time ever. Twice. I did it twice for a piece of.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But yeah, that like 4:00am Shit, that was crazy. Like that's the way the world used to be.

[Mandy B]

Well, and I think what's crazy, er, if we're leaning into the conversation about capitalism knowing that clearly Black Friday has been in its existence for our entire lifetimes. The addition with the advancement of technology and adding Cyber Monday I thought has been really interesting. So nigga, I ain't gotta leave Small business.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Small Business Saturday.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I think people was getting hurt too doing the throwbuster stuff. And I think the Cyber Mondays allowed to. They fall back on that stuff a lot.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But it's not even videos back then.

[Mandy B]

But to me it was watching the.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

News out of Walmart.

[Mandy B]

They were going crazy. But also what they did around this time as well was drop certain toys.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah.

[Mandy B]

And so because also people are doing their holiday and Christmas shopping oftentimes on Black Friday. That's when they would be releasing toys and certain video systems and games and they made, they made a craze amount. They made us act like fucking Barbarians, which is probably a part of them saying, sea, guys, this is what the holiday's about. Barfing berry also, too.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

It's interesting. I would joke around, like, last year and the year before about, you know, the recession. I'm like, if I'm an economist, I'm watching the patterns and behaviors of how people spend money during the holidays, and that's gonna tell me if people are full of shit with their crime. Not to say that they're not. People are hurting, but for us, we're not disciplined. Where we can say no, well, I can't buy this right now because I need to eat. I need my family to eat. But they still do it. They go to Best Buy, they go to Target, they go to these, and they buy these TVs, and it's like.

[Mandy B]

Hey, it's not fully organized, but online, they've been trying to boycott Black Friday, Thanksgiving, Christmas, from now to the end of the year. Yeah. And what's crazy is I don't think that we're gonna be able to even view the impact of that, even if it did exist, because we are in such an economic crisis where for whatever reason, they keep refusing to use the R word. And. No, I'm not talking about that. They. Recession. Recession, y'. All. That's the R word. But they're, like, refusing to admit or acknowledge that that's what we're in. And so even if there's.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

A small couple hundred thousand people that do.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like today, I was looking like, the job report usually comes out, like, on Fridays once a month. It just. It doesn't come out anymore because the Trump administration is like, what is the job report? Where. So, you know, they always put out a job report that shows, like, a sign of the economy's health by, like, the unemployment rate.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Didn't they fired the lady who was.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They fired a lady, and so now they stopped putting the reports out. Shut the fuck up. So in terms of, like, what you're saying, you can't even tell because the data is not.

[Mandy B]

But that's why Trump can sit up there and say, hey, guys, we have the most jobs that there's ever been, most beautiful economy. Because he's removing context. And I think it's also why we're in a place where TikTok and Elon, like, they're also wanting to control the information that we're getting, which is why they wanted to have such a stake in an app like, TikTok.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Turkeys on the table. Because they're like, turkey's almost done.

[Mandy B]

Are you beating up over there?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Turkey's almost. Turkey's almost ready.

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy? That's another thing. That is the only fucking meat outside of cow that you can. You know, this bird take forever to motherfucking cook.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And you know what's interesting?

[Jason Rodriguez]

They got a plate, only takes 38 minutes according to chicken.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And they inject it with the. Cause it's so dry.

[Mandy B]

You gotta put like. That's what I'm saying.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's always dry, bro.

[Mandy B]

Turkey is not good.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's not.

[Mandy B]

That is one. I know. Like, okay, okay. Actually, sorry, y', all, we're jumping around.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Don't they have a chemical in it that make you sleep? What's the chemical that make you sleep? Tryptophan or some shit.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. Wait, they put.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I'm saying. I know I'm saying it wrong, but it starts with a T. There's a chemical that turkey just has amazing. It contributes to. You be slumped out and shit when you eat it.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no, no. That's all the other food we add with that turkey that gives us the itis and shit. But yeah, no, Turkey has probably one of the best PR. PR behind it of any other thing. It just doesn't make sense why we don't do fucking. Like, why not just be rotisserie chicken? Rotisserie chicken has been subjected to being just something in the bag that you get when you don't want to cook, which is crazy. It's a whole chicken.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

We gotta talk to somebody from Tyson or Butterball.

[Mandy B]

Like, how the fuck I need to know the PR behind turkey. Okay, so we'll leave Black Friday food. I know I talked about what I like to cook. Let me ask y'. All. What is the worst food on Thanksgiving on the plate?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I say stuffing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mandy B]

I don't. Yeah, no, I don't love stuffing. I don't hate it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like. Like people who are into stuffing and make it. Like, my wife likes stuffing and she'll make stuffing and it tastes good, but it's like she puts so much effort into something that's like. Like it's not the headliner. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's like 12th on the list of shit on the table, mashed up.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Cornbread and a bunch of seasoning and shit. Why just not have regular cornbread?

[Mandy B]

Hold on. And then if you make it right, because you don't want to waste anything. All them organs that were in the bag in the turkey, you chop it up and put it in some bread. Like, where in the.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

What would you think, you know? That's your Caribbean side.

[Mandy B]

What?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's your Caribbean side? No, that's provisions.

[Mandy B]

Everybody does.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's provision.

[Mandy B]

Oh, and your people do that? It's an American thing. Thank you. It ain't my Caribbean thing.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, for Caribbean, they call that provisions.

[Mandy B]

When they take the provisions, you don't throw nothing out.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

So, yeah, you'll find a way to make that a meal.

[Mandy B]

Organs in the bag. And you chop that shit up with the bell peppers and the celery and then the little stove top box. Cause I don't know many people doing stuffing from scratch.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, my wife is one.

[Mandy B]

You take the stove top box, and then you stuff it back in the fucking turkey to dry out.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like, that's mad effort. More dry effort, bro.

[Mandy B]

It's like dry on dry. Yeah, you're right. Okay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's one of the worst. What do you think's the worst, Mandy?

[Mandy B]

I'm not a fan of casseroles, although.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't think I've ever tasted a casserole.

[Mandy B]

There is one my mama used to make, because, of course, she's white. It was green bean, French onion casserole.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That sounds disgusting.

[Mandy B]

So it's green beans with cream of mushroom. And then you put, like, the fried onions on top and you bake it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I'm trying not to throw up.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

It already was already. Once you say cream of mushroom, throw it away.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's what's crazy. That's the wrong term.

[Mandy B]

I like cream of mushroom.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Like cream of mushroom. Even chicken. Like. But cream of mushroom needs a new branding. Probably, but it's not bad. I would say that. And then. I don't care what you nigglets say.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Nigglet is crazy.

[Mandy B]

Fight me if you want to blame my biracialness. Sweet potato pie.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I knew she was.

[Big Long]

I knew it was gonna.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

It's what? And pumpkin pie is what?

[Mandy B]

Is the same motherfucker.

[Big Long]

No, it ain't.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Nah, I know. Same color flag on the play. Same flag on the play. No.

[Mandy B]

You ready? Same color. It's the same seasoning flag on the play, bro. You are not telling me that they.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Same mom, different dad.

[Mandy B]

You put a dollop of that motherfucking whipped cream on both of them right next to each other. Y' all bitches gonna eat both.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't know why that part's true.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's true. But. Right.

[Mandy B]

But then they be acting like pumpkin is the most disgusting.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, it's not.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, they do act like it's.

[Mandy B]

The season. Come around, niggas. Wanna act like it's my white side that wants everything to be pumpkin. So then because y' all hate pumpkin so bad, it's blinding y' all to really see that. That shit and sweet potato pie is the same motherfucker.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

It has a different taste.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It does have a different taste.

[Mandy B]

It's the same goddamn seasoning.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No. Yeah, you could. You could put nutmeg and whatever, but it's going. It's still gonna stay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Same moms. Same moms.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Different dads and dads. Different dads.

[Mandy B]

Okay, maybe also.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

So you don't have a preference. You don't have a preference. Pumpkin or sweet potato?

[Mandy B]

If you put it in front of.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Me and she's gonna say, it's the same.

[Mandy B]

It's the same shit.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

I ain't even gonna hold you.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Is it sweet potato? Is it.

[Mandy B]

Of course he's black.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, I was gonna say.

[Mandy B]

You don't have to ask him.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I was gonna say, does somebody make it from scratch, or do you get it boxed?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, you. I mean, I'm accustomed to the scratch.

[Mandy B]

Patty size is good.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I'm accustomed to the scratch. Like, you know, your fan. The female energy, they'll do it, right?

[Jason Rodriguez]

But.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But to his point, Patty's pie is not a bad.

[Mandy B]

He said out the box.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, if I'm going to a function, I'm not making that shit. I'm not gonna ask nobody to make. I'll bring that patty pie.

[Mandy B]

I'm asking.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Cause, you know, experience. Cause Thanksgiving is like a mix of, like, some people can throw down. So you get the suffering.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Of course there's something you can improvise.

[Mandy B]

You ready for the selective ignorance about this?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

What's up?

[Mandy B]

The way people argue this debate every year. Yeah, hold on. And what's crazy is y' all n. Don't ask for that shit any other time of the year. If it's so goddamn good, why y' all not eating sweet potato pie in April?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Then it wouldn't be as good. You can't have it all the time. You can't wear it out.

[Mandy B]

But what I'm saying is we eat Mac and cheese. Goddamn all year. We eat the same.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Do you eat the same Mac and cheese all year that you eat during Thanksgiving? First off, Y' all don't level it up for Thanksgiving.

[Mandy B]

First off, eggs are $38. And so I'm not mad at the people that throughout the year, gotta go to Kraft box route. You know what I mean? It's just that it's expensive to make that Mac and cheese. But for those that go to church and actually still do Sunday dinners, that's the Mac that's being made. That's the Mac that's being made. The cheeses are expensive. Them things done gone up.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I ain't gonna lie. I need to know now that you said that, like, what kind of eggs you putting in your shit? You're not putting Free range pasteurized. You're not doing organic.

[Mandy B]

I don't give a fuck about that shit.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

If I'm making it for myself only, I'll buy the close to premium, okay? If I'm making for a lot of people, then we gonna make it for.

[Mandy B]

You know what I found out recently?

[Jason Rodriguez]

So you're not. You're not at Seatown. You're going to Whole Foods to get your premium.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, yeah, we doing Trader Joe's Organic.

[Mandy B]

I ruined the geographic location of this show. No one knows what the fuck a Seat town is. It doesn't live in the fucking Bronx. Okay? Pardon me. Okay, so y' all want to know something that I learned recently? And I was, like, shocked. You know, the eggs we eat is the period eggs. Like, you know how.

[Jason Rodriguez]

What you mean?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Why are you doing it?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Don't do this for some odd reason. I'm interested.

[Big Long]

I'm interested.

[Jason Rodriguez]

What you talking about? I don't know if that makes me a nasty motherfucker.

[Mandy B]

So, like, the eggs that we eat, in no way will a chickie come out of it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, because.

[Mandy B]

Because it's the egg that gets released during ovulation, so they're literally not fertilized. So, like, every month when we bleed ladies, we're releasing our eggs. We don't really see the egg, but the chickens lay all these eggs during their cycle, and so we're eating period eggs. It's just they're ovulation eggs that weren't fertilized because they wasn't fucking. Now, clearly, they separate the. You know, they just freaking just want to keep all the eggs. Yeah, but it's the first. It's. It's them going through their cycle, y'. All. That's what we eat. So.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Did not know that.

[Mandy B]

So.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Only because another one you could share.

[Mandy B]

Well, nah, because TikTok did this little bullshit where, you know, people do things for clickbait and for virality. So they went and got these, quote unquote organic eggs from, like, Trader Joe's or Whole Foods, sat it under a lamp, and then a chicken came, like, 30 days later type shit. And I was like, oh, shit. It was teaching people or making them think that oh, my God. If these eggs were just put under lamps. We're really eating chick. Like, little chickies. No, bro, the eggs are not fertilized. They will never turn into chickens. We are eating period eggs.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Interesting.

[Mandy B]

So just so you know, I did not know that. You're eating all your food. I learned something today.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I learned something today on Selective, isn't it?

[Mandy B]

You learned something from me?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's a good one.

[Mandy B]

I love that I could teach y' all things. Did you know that? Oh, he knew. Well, I'm glad I talked to.

[Jason Rodriguez]

He's engineer Stefan. He's leveled up.

[Mandy B]

Did you. I know.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I've heard. Yeah, I've heard. But what are those other eggs? Them little. The little ugly ones that's in the store now.

[Mandy B]

First off, those are blue ones. Those are quail eggs.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yo, them shits are. Quail eggs are crazy. I would never eat that shit.

[Big Long]

Really?

[Mandy B]

They're good. If you go to.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's weird. It's weird hearing you say that with that hat on and that collar.

[Mandy B]

You ate some quail eggs? N. You did. And I got you going to sushi restaurants now. If there's ever an egg over it, that's normally a quail egg. That's why it's so little. The yolk. Everything be little. Those are. I'm gonna make you eat a quail egg. Yeah, I'm gonna make you eat a quail egg. Okay, let's get into. Let's get into.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Can I say one last tidbit on the food thing that was interesting to me is, like, last year, I rented a big house in Philly, and I had, like. It's like all my family, and my mom cooked and my wife cooked. And it was so interesting because my dad only ate my mom's food, which is expected. Like, that's the food that he eats. And so, like, I had, like, my mom's food and my wife's food, but then, like, it was interesting seeing who was picking food from what or. Or whatever. That's what I was asking earlier. Like, what you. What do you make from the thing? Or, like, for you. It's like, do people buy it or. Or box it? Because it's just. It's interesting, like, what people are grabbing and going towards.

[Mandy B]

Oh, for sure.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Or avoiding. Yeah, for sure.

[Big Long]

What's up, y'?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

All?

[Big Long]

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[Jason Rodriguez]

Mmm.

[Big Long]

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[Mandy B]

Celebrities say the Darnest Things Thanksgiving edition. And you know what? I think I want to lean into this in this way. We did talk. I like that first quote. But when we talk about family, right? And the things that we love and that we're grateful for, pets are a part of families, right? And it was just. It was just released, and it's kind of scary. And people are a little nervous to find out that Tom Brady cloned his dead dog because he loved his dog so much, he now has another dog that is actually a clone of his old dog. And can you go a little bit more into this? Like, also, I don't know why he had to reveal it to us, but basically, his dog junie died in 2023. But the dog was cloned from beloved pet. Lua Brady is actually an investor in this business, and as an investor, cloned the pit bull mix using a blood sample collected prior to the death of his dog. Now, did we talk about the Tyrone movie?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, they cloned Tyrone.

[Mandy B]

They cloned Tyrone. Yeah, we know that clones are out here now, by the way, we can all now put to rest the rumor of Gucci Mane being cloned. We find out he just schizophrenic. The nigga just lost weight in jail. And is schizophrenic. So he's not a clone. We just didn't know he was battling mental health issues, you know what I mean? But I did kind of want to have the conversation with y' all if a. If there's any person or any pet in your life that you would clone and your thoughts about keeping something living with you or existing after death with the technology of cloning.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, I don't know. It's weird to think, like, is it creepy or is it cool to do it? For me, it's a little creepy, but I guess it's. Cause, like, I saw Pet Sematary when I was a kid. Like, you know what I mean? Like, maybe that influenced me a little bit, because it doesn't. I'm not, like, on the positive side of it.

[Mandy B]

You're not on the positive side of cloning, but you would get a robot.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I was interested.

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[Aaron A. King Howard]

You watch Orphan Black and Yo, hell no. You ever watch that series Orphan Black on Netflix with the clones? It was cloned. It was a whole orphan Orphan Black.

[Mandy B]

No.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, shit. That fucked me up.

[Mandy B]

Like, what is the sci fi narrative of cloning? Like, what's the problem?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, it depends on who's behind it, but utilizing it for the greater advancement of an agenda for the people who create them shits.

[Mandy B]

Okay, but in this case, it's a dog.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But I think the sci fi element is, like, you don't get it exactly right. And so, like, one element becomes evil. Like, I think that's the thing that people worry about.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Possibility.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Or that's another thing. It's like, I don't distrust the technology. I distrust the people using technology. It just like the AI.

[Mandy B]

It's weird.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't know. Do you think it's cool or do you think it's creepy? Like, you have pets, so what would you do?

[Mandy B]

I do, but that nigga's so bad. I wouldn't clone his badass, like, bro, he's so bad. A part of me is like, my cat's behavior might be a reason. That is also birth control. I feel like if my cat acts that bad, but if you get a blood sample, I'd be a mother of a serial killer.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But if you get a blood sample, can't you, like, then go into the DNA and pick out the bad behavior part and then clone your cat?

[Mandy B]

So what's crazy is, though behavioral. Behavioral components aren't something that normally is derived in blood samples at all. It's normally, you know, gender and things like that, which is why? To me, this is no different than if you have a kid and you decide to have another one.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Interesting.

[Mandy B]

Like, to me, it's that especially in terms of an animal, you don't go through the whole process, like of surrogacy and care about the mom dog and the father dog. Like, you don't care about that. So. So to me, if you could just create one that looks just like it, it may even have the same behaviors. And maybe also he cloned it and it's a dog that now is already familiar with him. I don't fucking know.

[Jason Rodriguez]

To me, does it change for Tom Brady specifically if he had young kids and their cat died or their dog died and then you get the new dog? That seems like a nice idea. Does it change if his kids are not young? Like, do you think it's strange or do you think it's just the same thing? It's cool.

[Mandy B]

By the way, I do wanna add. I think for him even bringing it out and about is because he's an investor.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

And so for the right people finding out this information, Tom Brady's saying, hey, it worked for me, it'll work for you. I did wanna add Barbra Streisand's dog that died in 2017 also was cloned as well as Paris Hilton's dog, Diamond Baby, into two puppies after the pet went missing in 2022. So Paris Hilton made two clones of a missing dog and Barbra Streisand made a clone of her dog Samantha as well. So it's not just Tom Brady. The celebrities are doing it. I think if they make it affordable, the way that these niggas be throwing fucking birthday parties for their dogs and shit. Like the way I've seen people grieve the loss of pets or grieve their animals getting old. And I didn't even know fucking dogs had periods and could get cancer. Like they are integrated into a family and are treated almost like human beings.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, yeah.

[Mandy B]

And so to me, if they make it affordable, I absolutely would not be surprised if this becomes a more widely done thing. The same way we about to have these robots cleaning our houses. Like, I'm not against technological advancements. I'm not. Now I hate having to fucking set up everything with a fucking QR code because it stresses me the goddamn fuck out. But I'm not gonna lie, I'm not completely.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I think if we start adopting to those tools and mechanisms, I would hope that we're educated not just the usage of it, but understanding the technology that's in it. You know, I think that that's something we have to look into as well. We just can't be having robots and don't understand the functionality.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And I'm going one arm out.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Uh.

[Mandy B]

Oh, you were. You were really.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Turkey's almost ready.

[Mandy B]

We were deep frying your ass.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yo, he did it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You know how all the guests that we have come on and they're like, yo, anything from Andy. Anything from Andy. I really think that's you and me. That's you and me, bro.

[Mandy B]

Because y' all didn't want to do this. Were you not excited when I said it on?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Excited is a really interesting word choice. I thought it was a good idea.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

When you do humiliation, there's usually some kind of wealth that comes after it. So I'm like, fuck, let's do it.

[Mandy B]

Also, listen, we are. We are approaching 2020. We are approaching our first full year of this show. You know, we're almost. We're in the 40s of our episodes, and I think, what, 50. What. What makes a year in podcasts again, like 51 episodes. 52 episodes.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Traditionally 52. Cause we do, you know, do episode a week.

[Mandy B]

But mind you, that's not counting these bonuses that y' all niggas getting on Fridays. Okay?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

More content. More content.

[Mandy B]

Like, I'm dropping this thing. I'm having fun potting again. I love talking these conversations.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

How the. Do you have any energy, though?

[Mandy B]

You know what's. I'm high on life. Everyone doesn't understand. And then I party. I. I'd hang out. I.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You know, you show up all the time.

[Mandy B]

By the way, I also need younger friends.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I am.

[Mandy B]

I am reaching the age where my friends are like, I'm tired.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They're falling by the wayside.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, I'm literally going out now.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That sounds like shot fired.

[Mandy B]

No. Oh, to all of them.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I know.

[Mandy B]

To all of them. All my friends, I'm like, crystal, no, no. Oh, damn, Alphor Crystal, you should see it so bad. And mind you, my friends have kids, and so I get it. They be a little bit more tired than me. But Crystal don't have kids. That's why I be like, bitch, are you depressed? Why you don't want to come out?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, bitch, do I need Crystal the content creator?

[Mandy B]

You need another day of therapy, let me know, because why do you not want to go out and drink with me, friend? Anyways, but let's do some. Am I ignorant to close this out because we having way too much fun? And, yeah, I'm out of coffee. That's this is what I actually, I don't. No, no, this is what we have.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

This is it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yes. That's why we're wrapping, by the way.

[Mandy B]

By the way. I probably. Tell me how bad it is. Y' all. Tell me. I know it is, but I need to hear it the same way. I don't eat salmon anymore because I know they're like farm raised. I probably do anywhere from, I would say two to six, which is terrible.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

A day.

[Jason Rodriguez]

A day.

[Mandy B]

Shots of espresso. And then I found out I'm doing something called red Eye. I like my espressos in cold brew. And apparently cold brew is strong. And I said, I just thought it was cold coffee.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, but it makes it stronger.

[Mandy B]

Apparently cold brew is stronger. And so I'll get a cold brew and then be like, throw a shot of espresso in that thing on top of that thing on top of that thing. And then. Or I just do a double espresso with a splash of milk and drink it with ice.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And that's the reason why we wearing this shit today.

[Mandy B]

This is my crack cocaine. That's exactly the reason we came up with this idea. In the afternoon, I was off my car.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It was an afternoon.

[Mandy B]

In the afternoon, by the way, you. But I probably did have a vodka soda. Lie. By then. I was like, let's dress up.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Am I ignorant?

[Mandy B]

Yes.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So I got one. Oh, sorry.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Ready?

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, no.

[Mandy B]

She said, yes. I'm dressed like an Indian. Okay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I now have one leg of my pants up like LL Cool J.

[Mandy B]

Now.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Turkey's almost ready. So no one likes Thanksgiving as much as other holidays because it doesn't give you stuff. And so they go on to say, Christmas has presents, Halloween has candy. Thanksgiving is just eating a turkey. You don't get a present or anything. Humans just have a selfish nature. So when faced with a holiday for thanksfulness, we often overlook it.

[Mandy B]

Overlooking, you know, what we get is a day off. And so for a lot of people, that is enough. You get. It's off, it's paid for. The people who have salaries. It's one of those days where you're. It's a relief it's coming at the time of year that you need it. And for me, like I said, there are people, mostly men, because men love to talk about how they don't get home cooked meals no more by these bitches. There is an appreciation for sitting around the table with people that you may not have seen all year. So I think for me, the gratitude in that comes from someone comes from maybe Someone whose love language isn't gift giving or receiving. And a lot of when you get older, gifts don't matter the same, you know what I mean? Hey, I need a bill paid, you.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Know what I mean?

[Mandy B]

So spending time with people because life be lifein actually becomes a greater gift for most people.

[Jay Shetty]

Absolutely.

[Mandy B]

Especially as you get older. So I think that's an ignorant take from somebody that probably just maybe gift giving and receiving is their love language or maybe they're materialistic, which we talk about. I think materialistic people could be quite ignorant, to be honest. And so for me, this is someone who's probably just self centered and slightly ignorant.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So the ignorant one.

[Mandy B]

Yep.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We got time for one more.

[Mandy B]

One more.

[Jason Rodriguez]

All right. Friendsgiving, because we haven't talked about that.

[Mandy B]

We didn't talk about friendsgiving for real.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So is this person ignorant or not? They said hosting friendsgiving close to Thanksgiving with the exact same foods at Thanksgiving is lame. So then they go on to say, maybe I feel this way because I'm not a big fan of turkey dinners, but anytime I'm invited to friendsgiving parties with all the same food as Thanksgiving, it makes me bummed. They're always playing near Thanksgiving. And as someone who attempts to live off of leftovers and eventually gets sick of them after Thanksgiving, I get sick of them even faster this way.

[Mandy B]

So this is a. I would say this isn't ignorant, but maybe they're just unaware. So friendsgiving for so many people is the time to be around the people that they care about. But oftentimes friendsgivings really are for the people that don't get to go back home. Or maybe their fam. Like. Like they don't have a big family. Maybe they lost family members. And so this is a moment to actually experience this part of the holiday.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That'S supposed to double up.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. And I think, I think friendsgiving for a lot of people, especially people who live in the cities that they weren't raised in or don't, can't get to where they want, maybe for financial reasons or something. I think friendsgiving is a good way to keep people out of the depressive slump that comes around the holidays.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Do y' all do like. I. I don't do friendsgiving, but like the day after I usually do. It's like. Like growing up, it's like my Thanksgiving was very Puerto Rican. So it was like the turkey and all that stuff, but then Puerto Rican food. My best friend, four houses down, black family day, after we swap food. And so then we get the best we Used to always do that.

[Mandy B]

I like that. For me, friendsgiving is something where, like, again, I think it's just a time for us to eat, hang out, be around each other, do all the cool things. And, no, there's not really much tradition around it. When I lived in Miami, I did it. I was appreciative that people would bring me plates. But I enjoy friendsgiving. I'm going to, I think, two in Atlanta, even though I'm still going to Dallas for Thanksgiving. Even that celebrating Thanksgiving with my second family has now become a tradition. But again, my sister was in the army. My mom prefers to get time and a half, and she don't want to do all the cooking. She a little lazy now. She's like, bitch, I don't have to cook for y' all every day, y'. All. You know what I mean? And so. And so for me, I don't care for the month of October, bitch, we gonna eat this goddamn cranberry sauce Mac and cheese. Y' all could eat the turkey. And you know, for me, the best thing about Thanksgiving anyways is all the sides, so fuck the meat. Unless you make oxtail. I love oxtail, but that's.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Leftovers is kind of fire, though.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I like leftovers.

[Mandy B]

And by the way, y' all could suck my dick from the back. I still eat shit in my say. My shit says best Buy a date. Oh, yeah, and we passed that date.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You don't walk by that date.

[Mandy B]

I don't work.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, you walk by smell.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. My wife goes by smell, not by date.

[Mandy B]

And I might taste a little bit like sprays.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You adventurous?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Do you guys heat up your leftovers, or you just eat it straight out?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Both.

[Mandy B]

And that's the thing, too. As a BSG person, I love leftovers. So I can eat the same food for about two, three meals a day. About three days in a row, and that's it. And then maybe sometimes I'll throw a little extra seasoning on it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It tastes taste a little different, but.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, I'm fine with leftovers. I love leftovers. Leftovers love me. And, you know, and we see each other. Okay. Anyways, those were two good questions. We do hope that you guys get to enjoy your days off. If you have it off the partying, right?

[Jason Rodriguez]

The partying day before Thanksgiving, that's the biggest party day.

[Mandy B]

Go and smoke that J with the cousin outside.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's always fun.

[Mandy B]

You feel me? You know, do your drugs with your family because you can trust them. And honestly, for those of you who don't have Family this year. Because maybe you lost them back during the pandemic or for any other reason. Hopefully you have a community around you and friendship. I know I do, and I'm grateful for it. So spend time with your friends. I think this is the time of year where people are more welcoming to be around people, even if they don't want to, because they know that this is the time we give each other time.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well said.

[Mandy B]

Listen, this is the time we give each other time.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

This is going to be the first holiday in my lifetime in my existence that I won't have my mom. So it's like, for me, what you said, family. I know what she wants. She wants that. That was her whole shit. Was that do that and everything else to take care of herself. So, yeah. So to echo your point, whoever's listening, listen. Fuck all the bullshit. Zone in on family. Cause that's when it's all said and done. That's all you got. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy B]

And friends.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah. And your good friends.

[Mandy B]

It's gonna fuck my face. Family.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No.

[Mandy B]

Tricky. And then do you have any final thoughts?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like, same thing. To quote LeBron James. I was gonna say the same thing.

[Mandy B]

Quoting LeBron James. Quoting LeBron James is crazy. This is a football. Is football friendly, friendly show. We're not bringing the NBA here.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Is non dairy coquito blasphemous.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yes, it is. Yes. Yo, you know what's so funny about it? Oh, yeah. Because that leads into. You usually, like, stuff. Start thinking about it. Thanksgiving for, like, years. I can't request like my wife tries to get into. Once my wife really learned how coquito is made because she saw my mom making it, and she saw, like, all the stuff. It's like hearing when you talk about casserole and we heard that second ingredient, and we're like, ooh. Well, my wife saw it being made. She was just like, yo, that is a lot of, like, sweet and callous. Oh, it's crazy.

[Mandy B]

It is. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So then she was like, it's insane. I'm gonna look up a vegan one. And it's like, nobody asked for that. Every year she flashes it. She's like, you know, I got this option. I'm like, like, oh, well.

[Mandy B]

And y' all know this is, like, this is still the time of year, too, where they're preparing for, of course, Christmas.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

And same with eggnog. The egg and the nog need to know.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Okay, I will say this. I got something for y'.

[Mandy B]

All.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I Got something. I got something for the non dairy people out there, and I'm. We don't promote brands unless they paying for this. But there's this one brand.

[Mandy B]

Drop the brand.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Khalifa Farms makes a mean eggnog.

[Mandy B]

I get my cold roof.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, I'm sorry. Not egg. Sorry, cuz there's no egg. But Khalifa nog fire. It tastes just like the shit. Okay, it's not as thick, but.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, I've only had an eggnog once in my life.

[Mandy B]

Eggnog is so fucking good. And mind you, yes, I'm about to sound real white. They got pumpkin eggnog.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

No. Oh, my God. You put a little whiskey in that jar.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I was just about to say this.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Young boy at my barbershop got to connect on Doucet. Coquito.

[Big Long]

What?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, that his sister met. He's Puerto Rican, kid.

[Mandy B]

Keto is rum. That's it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, I think so, too.

[Mandy B]

God damn it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. All right, well, I like being a traditionalist. I'm on the holidays.

[Mandy B]

I see, I see. All right, well, the turkey is done, y'.

[Jason Rodriguez]

All. Turkey is definitely done.

[Mandy B]

We're about to cut. We're about to cut into it. Pause. We do want to wish you a very, very, very, very happy Thanksgiving. Give thanks, receive thanks.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yes, sir.

[Mandy B]

And thank you, guys. Here's my thanks. Thank you all for. For tuning in, locking in, and rocking with me on this new journey of a solopod and, you know, introducing y' all and building yalls ears to the voices of my two super producers, a King and Jason. And yeah, y', all, we got one more motherfucking month left. One month left of 2025. Jesus. This year went by not as fast as I wish. There was so much going on. It's like, nah, this should need to hurry up. Anyways, guys, thank y' all so very much. Make sure you check out Friday's bonus episode. Other than that, I'll see you next Tuesday. This is Selective Ignorance, where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter. See you next week. Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect Podcast network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Thanks for tuning in to Selective Ignorance of Mandy B. Selective Ignorance is executive produced by Mandy B. And it's a full Court Media studio production with lead producers Jason Rodriguez. That's me. And Aaron A. King Howard. Now, do us a favor and rate, subscribe, comment, and share wherever you get your favorite podcast. And be sure to follow Selective Ignorance on Instagram electiveignant. And of course, if you're not following our host, Mandy B. Make sure you're following her at Fullcourt Pumps. Now, if you want the full video experience of Selective Ignorance, make sure you subscribe to the Patreon. It's patreon.com selective ignorance it's your girl.

[Mandy B]

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