Ep. 48 | Misogony Economy, Book Bans & Jingles

Summary

Decisions, Decisions Ep. 48 | Misogyny Economy, Book Bans & Jingles

Podcast: Decisions, Decisions
Hosts: Mandii B, WeezyWTF, with Journalism Jason & A. King (aka King)
Date: January 28, 2026
Podcast Network: The Black Effect/ iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This lively episode is packed with humor and honesty as Mandii B, joined by her crew, braves a southern ice storm and dives into hot cultural topics. The panel examines the consumer panic, creator economy, safety for women in rideshare, the rise of the “misogyny economy,” book bans in prisons, viral internet deals, jingle mania, and recent celebrity controversies. The group keeps it real, blending laughter with pointed social critique and personal anecdotes as they break down what it means to navigate modern life, relationships, and identity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Surviving the Southern Ice Storm

[05:27–15:12]

• The weekend’s severe ice storm shut down most of Atlanta, sparking (somewhat) humorous chaos and survival fails.
• Mandii confesses: “Although we were given at least a week of preparation...all I bought was charcuterie board items. So I had hummus, tzatziki, fruit, and cheeses.” [06:27]
• The gang shares their storm prep failures, from the tribulations of ordering food in a shutdown city to scam artists posing as Uber Eats drivers and making off with meals:
  “Devon has zero deliveries. I said, zero. Zero. He didn’t deliver my food either. ... Niggas is creating Uber Eats accounts to get meals.” – Mandii, [12:56]
• The discussion morphs into Atlanta's unique food scene:
  “It's called Hungry AF. ... When the name of the restaurant is the shit that we serve, that's some real Atlanta shit.” – King, [09:46]

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The “Misogyny Economy” & Women’s Safety

[17:13–18:37]

• Mandii expresses skepticism about trusting male Gig workers and introduces “Her Ride”—a women-driven rideshare for female passengers.
• King: “That's how bad there's a misogyny economy. That's how crazy this shit is. There are services and goods ... specifically catered to women because they don’t feel safe around you niggas.” [18:24]
• The conversation expands ironically, with the guys admitting they hang up on male customer service reps:
  “If I hear a dude pick up, oh, I hang up. I hang up until I get a woman.” – A. King, [18:44]

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Grocery Store & Economic Conspiracies

[23:12–25:35]

• The hosts riff on prepping for disasters, encountering store shelves stripped bare, and speculate with tongue-in-cheek that the government causes economic panic as an experiment:
  “Ice storm created by the government...Grocery stores cleared out...they said, ‘Let’s see if y’all really can afford them’” – Mandii, [23:17]
• Chicken shortages and generator runs forced listeners to change priorities fast:
  “They said it could be a month...I looked up generators...they were sold out.” – A. King, [24:58]

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Creator Economy: IP Deals & AI Doubles

[27:20–34:27]

• Explores big moves in intellectual property rights: Kevin Hart licenses his name to Authentic Brand Group, and TikTok king Khaby Lame partners for a $900M deal including an AI “digital twin.”
• Jason: “...He (Khaby Lame) doesn’t talk. And he’s being paid $900 million to create a digital version of him that talks.” [29:20]
• Panelists explore the tradeoffs of “selling yourself” to a brand, asking whether control or money is the greater prize.
• Mandii reflects on intellectual property and wrestling with her own worth: “I think it’s different. I right now license my things...but I got a number, if that makes sense.” [34:27]
• Notable reference: Master P’s famous “If they’re offering $10 million, what am I really worth?” [34:54]

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Risks of Brand Partnerships: The Desi Banks/Mossad Scandal

[36:43–39:45]

• Recaps Desi Banks being (potentially unwittingly) linked to Mossad recruitment ads. Raises the issue of vetting business arrangements and the reputational risks of scaling up when others control your commercial interests.
• Jason quotes Desi’s response: “Stop believing bs...Someone used my LLC without my knowledge. How? I don't know yet...my team is digging into it right now.” [38:54]
• “You see what I'm talking about? ... Now it’s like an international incident almost that has this American comedian, content creator been helping to spread the message of some terroristic regime like, oh, yikes.” – King, [39:19]

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TikTok Jingles Go Viral

[39:59–51:13]

• TikToker Romeo Bingham lands a $2 million Dr. Pepper jingle deal—the panel plays examples and riffs on the trend of everyone trying to jingle their way to a bag.
• Mandii challenges the team to make their own cheeky jingles for everyday brands (freestyles and bad puns ensue):
  – “Wipe your nose, wipe your crotch and wipe your toes. Kleenex. Kleenex.” – A. King, [46:29]
  – “American Deli…Want some lemon pepper wet? Gotta put it on a set.” – King, [48:03]
  – “Hoo, hoo, pull over. Hey, hoop, hoop. We at hoot up.” – Mandii, [49:54]
• “People want authenticity, right? You gotta talk to the people the way the people talk.” – King, [48:53]

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Book Bans in Arkansas Prisons

[53:54–57:25]

• Arkansas law to restrict books and magazines in prisons (initially due to go into effect February 1, later put on hold)—prompting discussions about censorship, the rationale (contraband or content), and implications for prison education.
• “It does say that most inmates have tablets which will allow them arrange to download books. So I wonder if it's a safety thing too.” – Mandii, [56:11]
• “...The sinister version...they’ll cut off...what goes in and comes out. So it’s going to be like no black authors from this time period...” – Jason, [57:25]

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Celebrity Roundup: Controversies & Clashes

Kanye's Apology

[58:01–61:12]

• Kanye’s full-page Wall Street Journal apology for anti-Black and anti-Semitic comments is met with skepticism.
• King: “He gave [Jewish people] a little bit more sauce in their apology than he gave black people for all the shit he did to us...He gave them a hot song. He gave us a hot line.” [61:12]
• Mandii: “Did not care. His apology means nothing to me.” [61:19]
• Concludes Kanye's PR attempts fail to resonate due to lack of sincerity and overdue timing.

Gervonta Davis Stripped of Title

[65:47–68:46]

• The fighter is stripped of his title after domestic violence charges; hosts note the hypocrisy in public forgiveness for celebrities and the difference between independent artists and those attached to larger organizations (like the NFL/NBA).
• Mandii: “I like, love Christopher Maurice Brown, and he could do no wrong in my eye. ... but when I saw this, immediately, I was like, yeah, that’s what consequences [look like].” [66:48]

Cam’ron vs. His Ex: Assets, Liabilities & Gender Debates

[71:55–77:03]

• A viral clip is dissected, with Cam'ron sparring on air with his ex about gender roles, protection, provision, liabilities, and entrepreneurship.
• “A business is a liability until it’s an asset.” – Jason, [74:13]
• The panel notes how these public conversations often relitigate private grievances and showcase mismatched expectations about relationships and financial support.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Gig Economy Scams:
  “Devon has zero deliveries…Niggas is creating Uber Eats accounts to get meals.” – Mandii [12:56]

• On the Misogyny Economy:
  “There are services and goods and businesses specifically catered to women because they don't feel safe around you niggas.” – King [18:24]

• On Creator Power:
  “If they're gonna give me $10 million, then what must I really be worth, right?” – Jason quoting Master P [34:54]

• On Viral Jingles:
  “American deli...Want some lemon pepper wet? Gotta put it on a set.” — King [48:03]

• On Book Bans:
  “...the sinister version...they’ll cut off...what goes in and comes out. So it’s going to be like no black authors from this time period...” – Jason [57:25]

• On Brand Risks:
  “This as much as anything else, might be a response to that more than even an album coming out or some new Yeezy merch coming out. ... Now these niggas are running around talking about Heil Hitler.” – King [64:13]

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Key Timestamps

• Ice Storm Chaos & Uber Eats Scam: [05:27–15:12]
• Women’s Safety & Misogyny Economy: [17:13–18:37]
• Grocery Conspiracies: [23:12–25:35]
• Creator Economy Deals & IP: [27:20–34:27]
• Brand Scams & Desi Banks Story: [36:43–39:45]
• TikTok Jingle Challenge: [39:59–51:13]
• Book Bans in Prisons: [53:54–57:25]
• Celebrity Hot Takes (Kanye, Gervonta, Cam'ron): [58:01–77:03]

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Tone & Language

The episode is candid, irreverent, relatable, and sometimes provocative, laced with Atlanta slang, inside jokes, and open critique. The hosts emphasize authentic conversation—unpacking social issues and pop culture with vulnerability and humor.

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For Listeners

If you want a blend of personal storytelling, social commentary, and unfiltered entertainment with a Black millennial lens, this episode delivers—a candid, “real talk” roundtable for modern adults navigating culture, identity, money, and mess with wit and wisdom.

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(Summary reflects content up through [81:15]. Intros, outros, and promotional sections have been omitted for relevance.)

Transcript

[A]

This is an I heart podcast, guaranteed human. Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However, before we get to this week's episode, I want to remind you guys to purchase my book, no holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel free to go to your local bookstores, preferably queer owned, black owned or woman owned, to support them, but also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or wherever you read your books. Again, that is note holds barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Wheezy. Make sure y' all get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect podcast network and iHeartRadio. What's up, y'?

[B]

All?

[A]

Welcome to another episode of Stuff Selective Ignorance with your girl, Mandy B. And baby, we are getting into all the things from this weekend where damn near the entire country was either iced out, literally, or snowed. Snowed out, snowed in. All the things we're going to get into how we had our ignorant thoughts and moments during the ice storm here in the south. And we're getting into the panicking, the over preparing, the under preparing and the new scam that I found out here in Atlanta that's taken place. And I want to alert you and the rest of the country then up first, and this is America, is everyone for sale? We're talking IP ownership and the creator economy after Kevin Hart licensed his entire name. Damn. And then Tiktoker Khaby lame sold his brand for almost 900 million. And then some random woman on TikTok who sung about Dr. Pepper got $2 million from that company. Dr. Pepper Baby is good and nice. So we're talking all of those things as well. As y' all know, last week I touched on Kaisanat reading on stream. Well, we're gonna get into a law that was just passed that is now banning books and magazines from prison. And kind of what that means who it impacts NY literacy feels kind of controversial already in 2026. Then in celebrities say the darnest things, y'. All. It's loaded. We're talking Kanye apology Cam' Ron kind of embarrassing his ex talking about assets and liabilities. And then Gervonta Davis gets stripped of his title due to his own actions. Okay, dumbass, we're getting into all of the things, but not before I introduce my team. I am joined by my super producer. We got gang, gang, gang. You know, we got Journalism. Jason signed in from Jersey over there. You know what I mean?

[C]

Trying to stay warm.

[A]

You said what now?

[C]

I said trying to stay warm over here.

[A]

We apparently are really in global warming because, baby, we are also trying to stay warm here. Currently, we are recording this the day. Y' all are probably listening to this episode. And it is 24 degrees in Atlanta, Georgia. What the hell is that? Now? We also got podcast OG A king with the yurt. You brought all the New York weather here is what you did.

[D]

Atlanta, York.

[A]

What up, Atlanta York.

[D]

Atlanta, York.

[A]

That is what we're calling you.

[D]

I love seeing Atleans wearing Timberlands and snorkels and bubble coat.

[C]

I'm like, I don't want to hear.

[B]

No New York, New York niggers.

[D]

Nigga, welcome.

[A]

I ain't even gonna hold you. I didn't know motherfuckers in Georgia own Timberlands.

[D]

Yo, they lit.

[A]

They are dressing like some Yankees. If I ever see, I'd be like.

[B]

Yo, y' all from. Where you from?

[A]

Where you from?

[B]

Hey, not twin.

[D]

Not twin. Not Twin.

[C]

It's cold.

[A]

Twin. Not.

[C]

Not twin.

[B]

Not Twin. Not Twin.

[C]

Not the lingo with the accent.

[A]

Listen, not twin. By the way, you cannot see her, but we have a woman who joined the cast here. We got yomi over there on the ones and twos, and. And then, of course, I'm joined by my journalism, Jason, AKA Jot, AKA the real Jason Lee, AKA the headline king.

[B]

Huh? Pod blessing all the yap niggas, period.

[A]

Oh, I like that. See what I mean? You just be quick with it.

[B]

Pod blessing all the yap niggas. What are you doing?

[A]

I like that. No, no, no, no, no. So excited. We are recording this on Tuesday, the day the episode is dropping, because we have all been kind of snowed in, but scared to, like, make plans to have y' all niggas drive. Cause y' all actually don't live in Atlanta proper. Y' all kind of are on the outskirts. Like, Atlanta is not the address on your mail. It's something else, right?

[B]

Yeah, my address. My. My mail goes to Dunwoody, Georgia. The good old suburbs.

[A]

Y' all in some suburbans. What about your key? Oh, he said y' all can't even see the face. He said these niggas not knowing my address out here. They not knowing the Eddie.

[D]

I'm Bistad.

[B]

You trying to dodge the taxes. That's what it is. You know what I mean?

[A]

Wait, wait, are you. Let me not ask you how you.

[D]

I am. I appreciate amendment, the second Amendment, Constitution, but Soon I'll be able to participate.

[B]

Fair enough.

[A]

Not soon I'll be able to participate. Well, yeah, I guess. Let's get right into this ice storm that impacted everyone's weekend, that had us bunkered in, that had us scared. I have. Okay, let me just go ahead and leave.

[D]

You met a new friend, too. We'll get to that.

[A]

I'm gonna start with my ignorance real quick. Okay, first off, what I realized. And y' all have heard me talk about it before, right? I'm not gonna fight the zombies, but apparently what's gonna do me before the zombies is the global warming and climate change that impacts us. Because although we were given at least a week of preparation. Yeah. It got to Sunday. No. Yeah, it was Sunday. And I realized all I bought was charcuterie board items. So I had hummus, tzatziki, fruit and cheeses. And then my homegirl shout out to her, she brought me the prosciutto. You know what I mean? Can't have it without the pork, without the swan.

[B]

Y' all over there with all salt, in fact, baby.

[A]

So I realized that I am like, mind you, I grew up in Florida, so we used to have to prepare for hurricanes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I realized my mama prepared us. Cause she had to worry about us as kids. When you are kidless and all you gotta do is worry about yourself. You like, eh? I'll make it. I'll be just fine.

[C]

I can figure it out.

[A]

Literally, my mom was calling me, telling me, get out of there. I. I said, bitch, you is a hurricane chaser as a white woman. Okay? You be ready to sit outside with your cigarette pack and a Bacardi and Coke watching the storm go by and you want me to get out of here. I said, girl, I lived in New York. I'm good. And then she was like, no. I heard power was gonna go out. I said, I got coats, I got blankets. But I realized I didn't prepare myself, really, for food. So here we go. Where we get into the ignorance of it. All right? So I look outside. It ain't look that icy. It wasn't really snowing. So we started calling restaurants.

[B]

You open? Oh, man.

[A]

You open. You open. Now, my homegirl has a Tesla.

[B]

Oh, man, that sounds like the wrong vehicle to have, which I didn't wanna.

[A]

I ain't gonna hold you. I was scared for the Tesla to go on the road. Mind you, the thing froze. She had to preheat her car with an apple in order to even get into it. She couldn't open the handle. The Truck wouldn't open.

[D]

She didn't know that upon purchasing the vehicle.

[A]

Of course she didn't know that. She ain't know a lot of shit about the goddamn Tesla. Okay, so Elon Musk got niggas having to warm up. They shit like a Hot Pocket to get into it if the weather dropped. Anywho. So we're calling these restaurants. We're calling these restaurants, and we realize we don't really want to drive, but at this point, we're willing to put someone else in danger to deliver to it. So we call the restaurants, we see who opened. And in order for us to get over the fact that we're making people work during a state of emergency, we decided it's not our fault. They gotta take that up with the owner. The owner made you come in. So while you're working, we're gonna make sure you work. Take it up with the owner. Right? This is real ignorant, y'. All. I know, but this is my thought. Because, bitch, we wanted food, and we was hungry, right? And we had already ate the charcuterie. We ate, like, two or three charcuterie meals.

[B]

Yeah, I was gonna say, like, how much charcuterie.

[A]

How much charcuterie can you eat? So, mind you, we also had noodles. She made a tuna sandwich. I had my noodles and noodles.

[B]

Y' all niggas.

[C]

Yeah, y' all should have kept that to yourself.

[B]

You know?

[D]

They didn't hold back on the pack.

[B]

They put the whole joint in there.

[A]

Yeah, no, I do have. I do. Half the seasoning pack.

[B]

Half the seasoning pack is probably still 250% of your daily alumin.

[C]

It's like a week's worth.

[A]

No, no, no, no. You should have saw me, too. I bought this noodle pack specifically from the farmer's market. So it's a product of Singapore. So I was like, it has to be more healthy than the product of the US and oodles and noodles. Cause anyways, I thought it was healthier. Okay. So anyways, anyways, we found a spot that was open. Wings and pasta. Real Atlanta.

[B]

That's some real Atlanta shit. Let me tell you. When the name of the restaurant is the shit that we serve, that's some real Atlanta shit.

[A]

No, even more Atlanta. It's called Hungry af.

[D]

Oh, hungry.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[D]

See, are you looking at. To see if they actually have physical locations?

[A]

No, they do.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. They have brick and mortar.

[A]

They do. And it's open til 2000.

[D]

No, I mean in general, when you on a storm night.

[A]

I don't Be caring. Honestly, if it's made in a ghost kitchen, it's probably the kitchens is all sketch. Okay.

[B]

I've eaten some fire meals out of ghost kitchens, and I'm fine with that. And I'm all right with it.

[A]

Yeah. So we decide to order from Hungry af. Okay, we decide we're not hopping in your Tesla. So I hop my ass on the Uber Eats. So I get to the Uber Eats. This is a place that delivers in like 30 minutes. I said, ooh, bitch, we about to eat up.

[B]

Good nigga had they mouth set.

[A]

This is how hungry we are. I'm tracking. I said, oh, he's picking up our order. Ooh, he got our order. Ooh, he's seven minutes away. That's seven minutes away. Was seven minutes away for about 20 minutes. Then I notice he's going a different direction. So here go Crystal. Like, well, girl, maybe there's an accident. Bitch, you know, it's a state of emergency. They told people, stay off the roads. Maybe he had to go another way. I said, bitch, he on a motorbike. He could get on the sidewalk on a motorbike.

[B]

In that case, he could have been dead. That nigga might have been in the.

[A]

So here I go. Hey, I see you're not moving. Are you okay? He reads it.

[B]

Concerned citizen. I was politeness first.

[A]

I literally. Politeness first, mind you. Hold on. I screenshotted these.

[C]

I'm reading it right now.

[A]

Yeah, now you don't even know. Cause mind you, he's supposed to be seven minutes away. Bet. So I'm like, hey, are you okay? I see you're not moving. This was at 6:45pm I hit him seven minutes later. Cause again, he only supposed to be seven minutes away. But at this point, he is no longer moving. I'm zooming into the map.

[D]

What's your Hungry Matt Apartment complex at this point?

[A]

It's an apartment complex.

[D]

What's your hunger meter? That's a good question.

[B]

Are you hangry yet?

[A]

Oh, I'm hangry.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Cause I've been eating pickles and cheese for a day.

[D]

Jesus Christ.

[A]

I'm hangry. So I go. And I'm like, okay. It goes from, arrives at, arrives at 6:51, arrives at 6:58, arrives at 7:10, arrives at 7:15. He's not moving. He is at Ashley or Auburn Point Apartments. Oh, yeah, I'm putting it out there. Maybe we bleep it. I don't know. But I see the apartment complex that he. He chilling. He not moving. So I text him again. Hey, I see you're not moving. I know there's ice. Are you okay? This is when I was concerned.

[C]

Compassionate Mandy, son, you wise in the hay, bro.

[A]

Real nice, bro.

[B]

Now that gets you me to be rude yet.

[D]

Because she wants Josh. He had a little bit of. She's like, I don't want to diss him completely, but hey, I know this.

[B]

Bad weather, but however, where my food at?

[A]

You ready? So I go to just look at his account now.

[B]

Oh, shit. I'm like, devon, how's she digging?

[A]

Devon got my food. Let me see what Devon motherfucker doing.

[D]

Here we go, y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Devon has zero deliveries.

[B]

Dirty game.

[A]

I said, zero. Zero. And why do you include. Cause, nigga, he didn't deliver. He didn't deliver my food either. I said, oh, this a new scam. I said, n is creating Uber Eats accounts to get meals. And at this point, I'm like, damn. He did this for shrimp pasta, salmon pasta, and honey lemon pepper wings.

[C]

You gotta run that photo. You gotta run the photo to see if it's an AI photo or.

[A]

By the way, probably counts. By the way, I wanna tell you, I wanna tell y' all about this restaurant, because never have I ever seen a restaurant with 10 different renditions of something with lemon pepper. We talk about biracials. They done turn lemon pepper into a thing that just gets mixed with everything else. So it was honey garlic, lemon pepper, honey lemon pepper, barbecue lemon pepper, spicy lemon pepper, dry lemon pepper, wet lemon pepper, lemon pepper. They had lemon pepper and ranch seasoning. Never saw that before.

[D]

I think lemon pepper is the new obey.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I think that's fair.

[A]

You know what's crazy? No, no, no, no.

[B]

I think that's fair, right?

[A]

I think. No, no, no. Not old bae. Adobo.

[D]

Okay, Adobo.

[A]

Go on. Everything for you.

[D]

Cause they putting lemon pepper in eggs, lemon pepper in.

[A]

I don't want lemon pepper in my eggs. So anyways, I don't know if y' all know customer service with Uber Eats was very difficult. And because it was a state of emergency, N was like, nah, give him time. I said, nigga, he had my food for 41 minutes.

[B]

Yeah, he had time.

[A]

Hold on. In cold weather at this point, my food about to be cold, right? If I ever get it. I said, him also holding on to food for 41 minutes. I don't want it. So I had to go back and forth with getting my refund. And then this was the last of it. Me and my best friend decided to be like, bitch, you wanna try from Your account. She was like, but what if it happens again? I said, if it happens again, we gotta take this up with the Sky Daddy. Cause he ain't want us to eat. He wanted to show us a lesson. And we gotta go back to the charcuterie shit in the fridge. But luckily, the food ended up coming on her app, and Uber Eats gave me my money back. But it taught me that in case of a real emergency, when Uber Eats and Restaurants is not working, bitch, you will starve to death before anything else.

[B]

You better than me taking it up with Sky Daddy. I'd have went to the other guy like, hey, bro.

[A]

Who's the other guy?

[B]

Satan. I took that up and saying, leave Scott Daddy out of this. Hey, bro. Abrah, I need you to come get somebody. I need you to come get somebody.

[D]

Right?

[A]

I need Karma. I need asap.

[B]

It's cold as hell outside. I'm frozen inside my crib. We've eaten salt.

[A]

No, no, calm down. I didn't go out my heat work now. Calm down.

[D]

Do you think the door. The Uber Eats scammy. Do you think that he determined whether or not he was gonna execute the order by what the order was?

[B]

I would like.

[C]

Oh, shit.

[B]

She got.

[D]

That's my hungry.

[A]

She got hungry.

[D]

Oh, that's my other favorite dish.

[C]

I caught my lick.

[D]

Or asparagus and steamed rice. He would have delivered it.

[A]

You know what? I'm actually. I wonder if they're able to see the full order before they get there. Cause, you know, like, Uber drivers aren't able to see the final destination until they accept a ride.

[D]

Well, when they get it or until.

[A]

You get in the car, right? You say, what?

[D]

The receipt.

[A]

Oh, the receipt.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, he saw that. Lemon pepper honey.

[D]

They'll say, hey, what's the name? And then they might mention one or two items just for confirmation, right? And then that'll, you know, validate it and keep him pushing. You know, he might be like, oh, this is my Rasta pasta.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah. I would be collecting joints like infinity Stones. Like, I got some lobster from you. I got a steak from you.

[D]

If he did it to two other people.

[B]

Yeah, toilet people. I'm gonna just run this thing up until they fire me when I tell you.

[C]

I wonder if he would make, like, multiple accounts to do that.

[A]

So that's where I would love to know if there are any Uber Eats delivery drivers that listen to this.

[C]

Yeah, we need a scammer to call in.

[A]

I want to know how easy it is for y' all to make accounts or what Needs to be verified. Cause Devon is over there rated. Hold on. That's the other thing. Zero point. I need to know he's rated a top rated courier. How you rated top rated with zero deliveries?

[B]

Let me see the wrong thing.

[C]

I wonder if that's part of his picture. Okay, that's what I'm saying. You should run the picture.

[D]

But I would think that they their license for confirmation.

[A]

I ain't gonna hold you black men. I love you.

[D]

There we go.

[A]

But now we done got to the place where I don't want y' all to clean my house, do my grocery shopping, or picking up my Uber eats orders like black men. Where is the trust between us? Because it's been lost upon me, y'. All. And it's an ignorant way to think. I know. But now I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm a little. I'm about to even start riding the her app. You know there's a her ride.

[D]

What's that? What is that about?

[A]

Y' all aren't familiar of her ride?

[B]

No, no. Everybody.

[A]

Her ride. It is an app.

[B]

I don't know. I don't know about the her ride.

[D]

What is it?

[A]

So her ride. And I only really see it promoted heavily here in Atlanta for good reason, of course. Her ride is an Uber apps woman owned company where only women drivers are the drivers. So you can download the app and as a woman, you're safer to get in a car with a woman driver.

[D]

That isn't even a thing that we have to create a per version.

[A]

Who should you blame? Because niggas set up a goddamn town hall amongst other men. Why are we so scared? Y' all need to work on the behavior of your own kind.

[B]

No, that's how bad there's a misogyny economy. That's how crazy this shit is.

[A]

Ooh, misogyny economy.

[B]

Like there are services and goods and businesses specifically catered to women because they don't feel safe around you niggas.

[D]

I have an ignorant take.

[A]

Ooh.

[C]

Mm.

[A]

Mm.

[D]

When I call customer service.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

For, you know, to handle an issue, a credit dispute or whatever. If I hear a dude pick up, oh, I hang up. I hang up until I get a woman.

[B]

That's fair.

[C]

Facts, facts. I do that too.

[D]

My thought process is, yeah, a man ain't gonna sleep. He's gonna deny me as soon as I tell him the problem. Yo, he like, nah, we can't help you. A woman. Hey, how you doing?

[C]

What's the weather like?

[D]

Where you from?

[A]

New York?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, I hope you.

[A]

I thought your ignorant take was gonna go somewhere so different. I thought you were gonna say if they answered. And it was like, hello, my name is Daniel. How may I help?

[B]

I'm not gonna lie.

[D]

Okay, so you wanna hear. You wanna hear nothing?

[B]

Okay, I gotta hear who has an accent like that and they name is Daniel. What the fuck is going on?

[D]

You said Indian person. If I be like, I would talk to an Indian person before I talk to a nigga.

[A]

Oh, oh.

[D]

When I'm dealing with disputes or cute.

[A]

You know what's crazy? I ain't gonna hold you when I call Delta. Cause you know they whole home base is here. Hey, I like Tyrone helping me niggas.

[B]

I be like, hey, man, that's a different.

[A]

I said, do you know what I'm going through in this airport? He be like, man, I know it's crazy and is. So help a sister out. I love calling Delta in a n pickup.

[B]

Delta different though. Delta.

[A]

Delta's a little different too.

[D]

They have a different.

[A]

But yeah. I thought you was gonna go with the accident.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

I don't like when I hear dudes. They just very.

[A]

No misogyny. Standoffish.

[B]

Well, you gotta think. Some of these niggas, the only power they have in their life is when they pick up the phone and get to decide whether or not you get your money back.

[D]

Talk to em.

[B]

So like when they get their phone, it's like, oh, I'm Thanos now I'm in charge of all this. They ain't never been in charge before. Yeah, right, right.

[D]

All right.

[C]

They want to pack you up and talk about it.

[D]

Don't get to that.

[A]

We'll get to it. You got a. You got a quick ignorant take before we get into.

[B]

You know what? It's funny, my. I was think I had one and then I was listening to your story about the Uber eats and Devon. Punk ass.

[D]

Devon punk ass.

[B]

Punk ass. Devon. And I thought about another one that I had that kind of remind me of you. Now that I think about.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[D]

Damn.

[B]

Cause we know that Mandy don't like nobody kids, you know, Mandy don't give a shit.

[D]

She don't give a shit about. About nobody.

[B]

You're right.

[A]

So I'm nervous.

[B]

We getting prepared for this storm and we going around. I'm buying stuff. I'm making a trip to Publix. I'm buying water. They brought up all the water. I probably played myself. They brought up all the water, all the chicken. So I'm like, all right, I'm gonna grab these couple of things. And then I was like, damn. I don't really have, like. I kind of the same thing. I had not charcuterie, but I had snacks and random shit. I don't have no real food. Let me go in here and get a sandwich. Go to the Publix deli. Get a sandwich or the public sub here. And public. My mouth was set. I was like, oh, I'm about to go fuck this public sandwich. Nope.

[A]

Uh. Oh.

[B]

Get to the deli. There's one person in front of me.

[A]

Cool.

[B]

I'm gonna get in here. Get out of here.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

As I'm walking to the counter, I see the whole row of the deli counter is lined up with bread. And I'm like, what's going on here? The lady in front of me ordered 13 Publix sandwiches.

[A]

She got money.

[B]

Thirteen, man, and she can't come, baby.

[A]

They hitting like, them Quiznos prices.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know how Quiznos used to be elite over Subway? Yeah. Public subs ain't cheap.

[B]

Go in there and get that boar's head if you want to. That bitch gonna run you $15. She had 13.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

The lady is trying to go down the line, squeeze a mustard. She got a different order for everyone. All of these individual things. And I'm sitting there, and I'm looking at the back of her head, and I'm like, if I had, like, laser eyes, I would just, like.

[A]

You pierce them through.

[B]

I would just burn this lady's scalp off right now. Like, who the fuck orders 13 sand?

[A]

Not. You said you would turn into Homelander.

[B]

Yeah, Real Homelander vibes. I was really feeling like, yo. Cause who does that?

[D]

Well, she. Let's play red, black, brown, and yellow.

[A]

Why are we doing that?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Oh, wait, wait, wait. So I'm gonna say she was black.

[B]

Oh, man.

[C]

Nah. To buy all the sandwiches like that, it had to be a white person.

[B]

It'd be your own people. I don't know how many kids this lady had. She gonna tell the lady at the Just making the sandwiches. Yeah, I ain't cooking nothing for my kids and husband and I.

[C]

That's what I'm saying. It's definitely somebody who don't cook. Yeah, definitely somebody don't to line up 13 like that.

[D]

Lord have mercy, dawg.

[C]

When are y' all going to the stores, though?

[B]

Like, I bullshit. I didn't go till Friday.

[D]

No.

[C]

There you go.

[B]

So I did play my stars, by the way.

[A]

By the way. Conspiracy time.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Ice storm created by the government.

[D]

Oh, God.

[A]

Why? Hold on, here we go.

[C]

To boost the economy.

[B]

This is five stars.

[A]

Y' all remember last week we talked about the piece of chicken, the piece of broccoli and the tortilla.

[B]

We did.

[A]

We've been talking about grocery prices and how nobody can afford groceries. True government said, let's see if y' all really can afford them bitch. Grocery stores cleared out across the entire catching trail. Hold on. Water's gone. Like, gone. You couldn't even find water. You couldn't find certain cheese. The meats were gone. When I say that the people who actually know how to be prepared, unlike me, cleared out them grocery stores. So now that we're back on the other side of it, I wouldn't doubt that the government is in like, oh, these niggas can afford.

[C]

You just gotta put em on, you know. There was a chicken supply chain issue too, on top of that.

[A]

Wait, there was a what issue?

[C]

There was a chicken supply chain issue, coincidentally. If I'm adding on to your conspiracy, the same week of the storm, it was a supply chain issue with chickens up and down the east coast.

[A]

See what I mean?

[B]

We might gotta get one of them tinfoil bucket hats. And I hate conspiracy theories, but I might, I might fuck with you on that.

[D]

I always say if I'm an economist, I'm watching how people spend during the holidays. Because we're supposed to be in a recession, right? We're supposed to be watching our money. But then when you go to these stores, everything's gone. To your point. All right. They said the power, it might have power outages. That was my biggest fear because they say it could be a month, a week, whatever. I went to, I looked up generators. Oh, you know, they were sold out. They were sold out. You know how much a generator? A legit.

[B]

A thousand dollars. Yeah.

[D]

Plus the warranty.

[A]

$1,000.

[B]

Yeah, for sure. Minimal. For sure. Gone.

[D]

Ace Hardware, Home Depot, Walmart, Lowe's.

[B]

Yep, yep.

[D]

All the northern tool, by the way.

[A]

By the way. Snowstorm up in the north, but the south got ice. But this is how. This is why I think the government did it. Florida wasn't even included. Bitch, they was 86 degrees on Sunday while we was sitting here with ice. Ice. Sickles from the power lines make it make sense. Anyway, that was my conspiracy theory. That's funny that you ain't want that woman to feed her kids with public subs.

[B]

13, did you like 13? Did you end up getting your sub?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

Did you get.

[D]

They had enough bread for you.

[B]

Yeah, I had to sit there and wait I got like, there was like three rolls left and I had to get wheat. I didn't even want to get.

[D]

Were you bracing yourself for that? Like, oh, we got no more.

[B]

Because I was worried she was going to get a text or a phone call and be like, oh, my dirty ass nephews and nieces coming over here. I got to get some more sandwiches. Like, I was sitting there looking like, hey, man, I feel like this is one of those call ahead. Like, you know, you go to a restaurant, you can't call a restaurant to have, like walk in with 20 people. You got to call ahead, get a party. So I feel like that's a catering order. That's like, come on. All different orders, all different orders. All different.

[A]

You couldn't just do the turkey club and boom, make.

[B]

Go home about your business. No. 13 complete unique sandwiches.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Seasonings and all that shit.

[A]

Yeah, fuck that woman and her kids. I said, bro, fuck them kids. All right, anyways, let's get into this is America don't got you slipping though. And we're talking. Is everybody for sale? Now, I want to include all three of these together because they're all three different types of deals. But I want us to kind of really share our thoughts about it. I'll talk about what happened with Kevin Hart and Khaby Lame. And then we're gonna get into a fun game with the woman who sold the Dr. Pepper jingle for $2 million. So not sure if you guys were aware, but Kevin Hart inked a deal for his name. So Kevin Hart is now sold to Authentic Brand Group where they will license his name to get him brands, products, all these other things. Now, I looked up and I wanna bring up. Actually, I did a quick little research on it, on what really it entailed, but it's really interesting because basically he still owns his name. This was more of like an IP move right now.

[B]

So they have this for a limited amount of time.

[A]

Is it limited?

[C]

Well, so he entered into a partnership where he's.

[A]

There we go.

[C]

I think what makes it unique is that he became a stakeholder in the company. So the company and Kevin Hart together will co manage his name.

[B]

So it's okay.

[C]

But like, usually these deals are like when people pass. So like, Muhammad Ali has a deal with the company. His estate did it with the company. Marilyn Monroe has a deal with the company, the state. So it's unique in that he's alive. And so I think the difference is he became like a stakeholder to manage it as well to a company.

[A]

So it doesn't mean that he doesn't act anymore. Perform. He's still able to do all of those things, Right? He's just. Now he's turned his name into a business, essentially. Now, Khaby Lame, who is a TikTok creator, did the same thing. He did a $900 million deal. Right. But the $900 million deal was for shares into a company, so it wasn't a cash payout. And I thought that this was really interesting because what his deal is is kind of the same. They're able to take his business, his content, and license it into all of these different moves. However, the interesting thing about this and what makes it different than Kevin Hart's, is this includes the company creating an AI digital twin of Kavy Lame. So the agreement includes plans to use his likeness, voice, and behavioral data to create an AI version of him that can generate multilingual content and branded activations beyond his physical availability. Yeah, interesting. Uh. Oh, Ja's shaking his head no.

[B]

It's just crazy. Like, listen, man, don't ever let nobody tell you that it can't happen. Right? It can happen for you.

[A]

It can happen for you.

[B]

Because Khaby Lame doesn't talk.

[A]

No, he literally don't talk.

[B]

He doesn't talk. And he's being paid $900 million to create a digital version of him that talks.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Right. That's almost the genius of it, too, because you don't know what he sounds like. And each language, you can create a new voice and people will think, that's his name.

[B]

That's actually him.

[C]

That's what he sounds like.

[A]

Now, for y' all who don't know, he is the most followed person on TikTok. So he essentially is the TikTok version of Akai Sanat. And what Kai Sanat was able to do, or actually ishowspeed, actually is now the biggest once since he just completed his tour of Africa.

[D]

Right.

[A]

But, yeah, I found this to be really interesting, I think, to make yourself a company or to be able to sell yourself. Bitch, I'm selling myself. I sell myself for a lot less at one point in my life. Okay. I absolutely find this incredible that as a creator, you don't have to feel burdened. Or is that the word? Right, Burdened. Burdened.

[C]

No, burdened.

[A]

B U E R G O Burgond.

[D]

Something like that.

[A]

Baby, I've been reading the dictionary.

[B]

What is the definition of the word that we're looking for?

[A]

Like, it just sounded.

[C]

Right.

[D]

I wanted to insert blunder sound effect.

[B]

Here.

[A]

Anyway, to know that you don't have to be this person that has to constantly show up or be in front of the camera. Like I saw a clip of Kev on stage, right. He talked about every day he posts two to three videos a day to his socials. Across the year, he might post 2,000, 3,000 videos, he said of that 3,000 videos, he may want to do 25, but he has to. A part of why he can sell these tickets on tour, a part of why he's able to get these deals with these networks for his content is because he has to do this amount of output as a job. He's dependent on putting out this amount of content. So imagine being able to sell yourself for $975 million and a company be able to replicate that without you actually having to do the physical work. I would do it.

[B]

So I guess my question would be in like, especially in Kevin Hart's. Well, I guess for both of them. But like for Kevin Hart, he's part of the company, so I'm assuming that he has obviously some say in what the things are that they use it. Use his likeness for.

[D]

Right?

[B]

I mean, is that.

[A]

I'm glad you brought that up. Khabi's is shared control. So he does still have say with this company.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Brand governance is centralized for Khabi, distributed with Kevin Hart. So again, his team has a lot of say. Now here's the issue, or not really issue, commercial decisions. So when you're bringing in all those things, Kevin Hart's is collaborative. Khabi has no say. It's corporate led. So a part of Khabi. But again, someone who hasn't said anything, he's a Senegalese immigrant here in America and I think he might have left America. I don't blame him, but he's someone that may have no idea of how to run this thing. To me, it's similar to the difference between a Joe Budden and a Charlamagne. Right. Joe Budden is leading his own entity, has created himself as a corporation and is running himself. The Joe Butta Network as a corporation. Then you have Charlamagne, who learns corporate, but in partnership with Iheart.

[D]

Right.

[A]

So I think that's kind of what this kind of would look like from a podcast landscape.

[D]

You think that that's predicated on the opportunity that presents itself too?

[A]

I think that too.

[D]

I agree sometimes. Like, how much is Mandy B. How much would you sell your name and likeness for today?

[A]

Nigga, I'm. I'm expensive though. I'm not this expensive.

[D]

Somebody said, hey, I got 200 million.

[A]

I mean, I think that that's 150. Well, when you talk about selling yourself, too, right, It's. Do you believe that your worth right now is larger than this? Because when you go to work with a company, you're letting oftentimes a company say what they value you as. And so if someone comes in and wants to buy me right now, but I have full belief that, nah, this is about to grow, I might want to hold off and sell myself later down the line and continue investing into myself, right? So, I mean, I think it's different. I right now license my things. So I completely own the IP of horrible decisions and what Weezy and I have created over there. This right now that I'm building out and creating, including The Patreon, the YouTube, what. This is still waiting on the trademark, but I'm building another ip. So this is all different. And then, of course, it's me, but it's. I'm building my singular equity in brand currently. Cause I've been a part of duos for so long as well, you know, So I ain't got a number right now, but I got a number, if that makes sense.

[B]

But that number probably has eight figures on it.

[A]

Oh, nothing less. I would go up to nine figures. Okay. Like, yeah, but that's that.

[B]

That's that masterpiece shit, though. Like, you know, when was it Universal? I believe Jason that. That. That he was initially gonna partner with. With. With no limit. We're looking for a deal. I think he offered him $10 million.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

He turned it down because he was like.

[C]

The quote he said.

[B]

Yeah, the quote he said was like, if. If they're gonna give me $10 million, then what must I really be worth, right? So, like, that number, whatever number they're gonna give you, they're not gonna give you what you're worth. They're only gonna give you a percentage that makes them money. So if they're giving you that kind of money, what do they. So I guess I'm saying that to say is that, like, if. For Khabi, it might be one thing, because he doesn't talk, so I don't know what he considers his brand to be. But for Kevin Hart, it's like if they're putting your name or your likeness on things that you don't really fuck with, or it comes out later that something they put your name on is suspect or has something going on with it and you just have to eat.

[A]

It, that you don't have to. No, I would assume there's definitely some level of morality. Again, a king brought up that Kevin is still alive, so I would assume that there's more say to that. Even being a part of the Black Effect Network. Right. We get things that come in, and we can approve or deny certain ads. So y' all ain't gon hear no Charlie Kirk network ads over here, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Y' all not gonna hear that shit, right? Like, even I think at one point, it was a really big thing for us not to promote. Ooh, what was it?

[B]

Dick pills.

[A]

Oh, n. We promote dick pills.

[B]

He said, no, we selling some dick pills.

[A]

We gonna sell some.

[C]

You said we gonna slack. We gonna slack.

[A]

Them things, y', all. With your dick. We gonna sell them things. But just certain things that may not align with us. I know political things. Like there was. Y' all might not know this, but Bloomberg, when he was running in New York or entering one of the. Bloomberg was willing to spend money on the podcast, and there was a lot of conversation whether we wanted to politicize.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Clearly, we get on and talk about the Orange Cheeto and Kamala. But having actual ads, you know, it's a little. Eh.

[B]

It's a different thing, you know?

[A]

It's a different thing.

[B]

Well, yeah. I mean, you don't want to get caught up. Like, this shit that's going on with Desi Banks, to me, is, like, kind of fascinating.

[A]

And what's happening with Desi Banks?

[B]

So there was. I forget the outlet. Jason, I don't know if you heard this story or not. Maybe you know what the outlet is. There was an outlet that basically did some. It was doing. Investigating into Mossad and this. Like. I don't know what you. I don't know how you want to describe Massad. I don't know if it's like a. I don't know if you call it a terrorist organization, like a political resistance organization of dubious means.

[A]

How the fuck did Desi Banks and.

[B]

This getting so apparently a company. I think what it was was a company that was running, trying to recruit people and, like, an ad agency was running ads through podcasts and different forms of content, and somehow they ended up doing business with Desi Banks Co. Or allegedly. That's what's being. That's what's being said. So now.

[C]

Yeah, I'm looking at it now.

[B]

People are digging into, like, did Desi know about this? Did he not know about this? If he didn't know about this, who's in charge of his business?

[A]

Ooh, I Ain't gonna hold you. I know his team. So I'm about to go ask. I'm about to be messaging.

[B]

It's turned into.

[A]

Cause also, a person I know ain't on his team no more.

[B]

So, yeah, I be.

[D]

He's a friend, he's a friend. He's a friend.

[B]

To the.

[D]

He's a friend, he's a friend, he's a friend. Wait, hold on. Let's say that too.

[B]

Whoa, whoa, wait. Cause we'll go.

[D]

I am not gang gang. I do not bang gang bang.

[B]

Do you gang gang, right?

[A]

Cause I be outside with my gang.

[B]

With my gang gang. And so Desi Bank's name is being circulated in places that you would never see. Politico in the Washington Post and these places that you wouldn't expect to see his name because his company allegedly has ties to this international group. So now it's like a international incident almost that has this American comedian, content creator been helping to spread the message of some terroristic regime like, oh, yikes.

[D]

Yes, international law.

[A]

Oh, yikes.

[D]

Potentially.

[B]

Do you see what. You see what I'm talking about?

[C]

Yes, I'm reading his comment. So the headline, google suspends ad account of Atlanta influencer used to recruit Iranian agents for the Mossad. And it's.

[A]

He.

[C]

He put out a statement and he says here, stop believing bs. I hate this happened to me because I don't even know what any of this is. People are really getting fooled for clickbait. Someone used my LLC without my knowledge. How? I don't know yet. I don't even know if half of what's being posted is real, but my team is digging into it right now. I have no idea who's doing this or why.

[B]

That's some scary. Like, they might be. They could be looking at him like he's a spy.

[C]

Like, prize.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Iranian people don't want to be linked. You don't want to be linked to.

[B]

What'S going on America and them right now. Like, you don't want no parts. And like to Desi's point, like to, you know, shoot him some bail. Like, he might not have anything to do with this. If again, who's running your business and who is approving ads and who's approving these. These different things. There's money that comes through. Where is it coming from?

[A]

And I think that goes back to what we're saying. When you align yourself with now these companies, even if you're a shareholder, even if you're getting equity in the business, like, what are the decisions really being made, and how do they align with what you want?

[B]

Yeah, I would just be careful because it could get spooky.

[A]

Now, I like what you said at the top. You said this could happen for anyone. Now, in a different way, a TikTok creator by the name of Romeo Bingham made a new jingle for Dr. Pepper that was so catchy that the Soto Company licensed it in a major TV ad, which I've heard rumblings that this may be shown during Super Bowl. That's why she got this payout. Cause they wanted to use this jingle for a Super bowl ad, so. So we'll see it next week if it is, or this weekend. Terms of the deal weren't disclosed, but they are saying that it was an upward of $2 million to use this jingle. And this led to a fury of people creating jingles. Now, Jason, I do want you if you could pull up just some of these jingles that had been created because People saw this $2 million payout and was like, oh, bitch, all I gotta do is make a little jingle. A little jingle jingle.

[B]

Niggas trying to hit that Watts lottery.

[A]

And I can hit that lott.

[B]

Mm. Hit that number.

[A]

So, Jason, if you could pull up the clip with the other people creating their jingles.

[C]

Yeah, let's go through them.

[A]

Right?

[C]

Here goes. The first one.

[B]

Is that nigga in prison.

[D]

Got to give hands on some Popeyes.

[A]

Let's see the next one. Let's see the next one.

[C]

Okay, we gotta make a theme song for Coca Cola, y'. All. I was sitting here thinking. I was like, I mean, Coca Cola need Theos, too. Okay?

[A]

So go like this.

[C]

Y' all.

[A]

Hear me out. Pop that top. Yeah, you know the code. One sip in, it's Coca Cola mode.

[B]

I like that. That's like a 90s jingle right there. I like that.

[A]

$2 million. Mountain Dew is for $2 million. Let's see the next one. Romeo, you mean to tell me that you made $2 million off of a jingle? Jangle Pizza Hut, come front and center. What do you want for dinner?

[B]

Pizza. Huh? A pizza. Huh? Pizza. Huh? A Pizza Hut. Call me when you're ready.

[A]

Okay, now, you know what? Oh, we got one more chicken, fresh lettuce, three cheeses, fresh dressing wrapped up in a tasty flour, crispy chicken.

[D]

Oh, man.

[A]

All right, you know what? So I decided.

[D]

Nope.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Here we go with ho.

[A]

I decided we were gonna have fun here as the selective ignorance Gang, gang, gang. And I wanted us to give each other.

[D]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Either a product or a fast food chained restaurant. That we think we could create a jingle for. Now, how we're gonna do this is I'm gonna throw just a random product or place to Jah and maybe collectively we come up with one for both of us.

[B]

One for them. Okay.

[A]

And then Jah, you gotta throw one at me.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

But because this is my show, we gonna save the best for last. Oh, no, I'm going last. I'm making y' all come up with the jiggles first. All right, all right. So Jah, I'm gonna throw you, by the way, I'm give y' all a little bit more time. Cause y' all a little older, your brain might take a little longer. So aking, I want you to create a jingle for Kleenex. Yep. The tissues. Because we're in Atlanta, I want you to create a jingle for American Deli.

[B]

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And.

[C]

At a pre written.

[A]

You had a pre written one for what?

[C]

I had a pre written for Taco Bell.

[B]

You got bars?

[A]

Okay, okay. And because Jason is so old and said he has to write his bars, he don't freestyle.

[B]

He said, I write my rhymes.

[C]

I'm about to look after BlackBerry.

[A]

Jason said he want to give us his Taco Bell jingle now, don't we? What's Taco Bell's jingle right now? Open late.

[B]

Yeah, isn't it open late in the or.

[A]

Taco Bell.

[B]

That was what? Yeah, to get. I think that dog is.

[A]

Okay, well, Jason. Jason, of course he does Taco Bell with his Puerto Rican ass.

[B]

And when he said that, I was like. I was like, that's racist. But I like he came up with.

[C]

I only went with that. I was just trying to think of one real quick.

[B]

Fair enough.

[A]

Okay, so you got what is mine?

[B]

Oh, yours is Hooters.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

That's a good one. That's a good one.

[A]

Okay, we gonna start with Jason since he wrote his down. So Jason, give us the jingle for Taco Bell.

[C]

Okay, ready? Here we go. I gotta clear my eyes. I'm still laughing over the other ones. Ready? 16 beers in the gut. Tequila shot. Once more. Been drinking so much, all of my food turned cold. Been partying so much I can barely see straight. Hope that Taco Bell drive thru is open late.

[B]

Oh, I hate it when.

[A]

I hate me with that. What beat was that supposed to go on? Can we sit with?

[B]

It's regulators.

[C]

It's regulate.

[A]

Oh, it's regulate if you smoke like I smoke.

[D]

Thank you.

[B]

Like every day.

[A]

Can we get it with that? Could you? We got the two Part you like, read it off. I need that redone.

[C]

You gonna make me do it again? I don't even got it planned. I'm gonna try and do it. Ready? Cause this is the Nate. This is the Nate dog part. So this is tough.

[B]

I got you. I got you.

[C]

Yeah, right. 16 beers in the gut, tequila shot, one smole. Been drinking so much, all of my food turned cold Been partying so much I can barely see straight Hope that Taco Bell drive thru is open late.

[B]

And if you smoke like I smoke.

[A]

Let Baboni keep his job. You a market for Baboni?

[B]

Deal with this.

[A]

Okay?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. AK Kleenex. I need that Kleenex.

[C]

Damn.

[D]

I ain't got no.

[A]

Come on.

[C]

I need it from the top.

[A]

I need it from the top.

[D]

Can it be provocative?

[A]

Of course it can.

[C]

You gotta sell what you can sell, my brother.

[D]

Gold tissue, right?

[A]

You say it's for tissue? Yep. How you make a tissue provocative?

[D]

Here we go.

[C]

This issue, this episode.

[D]

Wipe your nose, wipe your crotch and wipe your toes. Kleenex. Kleenex.

[C]

Whatever ads we had running against this episode, change them.

[D]

Shout out to Kleenex. I mean, listen. Listen, bruh.

[A]

Okay? Right now we're not even getting $10 for these jingles.

[B]

I thought she was going to take the easy way out. And do they snot like us?

[C]

Oh, that's a good one.

[B]

Remix.

[D]

They start like us. They sound like us.

[B]

Kleenex.

[D]

They sound like us. They start like us.

[A]

That is crazy.

[D]

Let me do it. Let me do it so I can put the beat underneath. They sound like us. They sound like us. They sound like us. They sound like us. They sound like us. They sound like us. Kleenex remix.

[B]

Cedric, I hear you blow your nose.

[A]

Keep going, keep going. Hold on. I wanted you to get up. Come on. Rhyme with nose.

[B]

I hear you blow your nose. I heard you're always in Toronto with a cold.

[A]

I'm not playing with you. Okay, let's get. Let's get American Deli For y' all that do not know American Deli. American deli.

[B]

Cherished Atlanta establishment.

[A]

It end is where you get wings. Of course, yes.

[D]

They sell sandwiches then. I never had American.

[A]

I only go there.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

You've never had American Deli.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

You're about to go there now after you hear this jingle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Tilapia sandwich. Come on.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[B]

American deli. American deli. Are you riding through the hood? Are you smoking on some good saying what the helly need American deli. Want some lemon pepper wet? What Gotta Put it on a set.

[D]

Sit, sit.

[B]

Want some crinkle French fries? Make a thick, thick thighs.

[D]

Damn. Jam, jam, jam.

[B]

Damn. Hey, hey, hey.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

By the way, that was hard.

[D]

That was hard. That was hard.

[A]

By the way. You brought up ass crack. You brought up tequila shots, and you were bringing up weed. None of these will.

[D]

I think they.

[A]

We go in jingles, y'. All.

[C]

Listen, man, we're trying to expand markets.

[D]

We revolutionizing the jingle game.

[B]

People want authenticity, right?

[A]

People want authenticity.

[B]

You gotta talk to the people the.

[D]

Way the people talk. Sexy.

[B]

That's how you sell products.

[A]

Okay? For mine, by the way, I hate that you gave me a business that is going out of business. You said, mandy, you make enough money. I don't even want to give you a way to make money off this because them is bankrupt. Hooters is gone. It was Rip. Hooters.

[B]

Are they gone?

[C]

Gone?

[B]

It's got to be. It's some hooters.

[C]

Just chapter 11. They're holding on.

[A]

No, no, I mean, they just closed the one on Peachtree.

[D]

Where?

[C]

Where?

[A]

Drake, bring them back. Drake, bring them back. Who he met on Peachtree.

[B]

Well, in Atlanta. I can see you closing on, like, in Atlanta. There's a lot of strip clubs here. You don't necessarily.

[A]

You don't need to go to Hooters. For women. I was about to say titties.

[B]

Titties will never go out, man.

[C]

Woman, and they'll never go out of style.

[B]

From coast to coast, around the world, any time zone, everybody love titties.

[A]

I mean, I. And here y' all go, making me also lean into the improper way of making a jingle. I was going, hoo, hoo, pull over there. Hoo, hoo, pull over.

[B]

I'm not mad at that, though.

[A]

Hoop, hoop, pullover. Hey, hoop, hoop. We at hoot up. Hoop, hoop, pullover. Hey, hoop, hoop. We had hoot. That's all I could think of was the hoop, hoop, baby.

[B]

No.

[A]

And then. Hold on. And then the business of it was.

[B]

You had a. You got to have the titties jump. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Peck jump. The. You got to have the titties jump. You get Terry Crews.

[A]

By the way. By the way, there is a lovely lady. Do not know her name, but she works at Cheetah. She is easily 65 years old.

[B]

Oh, that sounds about right for Cheetah.

[A]

She puts a shot in her titties, and when she serves it to you, she makes her titties jump while the shot is right here. And you take and literally $20. $20 a shot. Cause she make her. And they're old. Big old titties.

[B]

And these are white titties.

[A]

White woman, white titties.

[B]

White titties.

[A]

And Ida would never do it from a white woman any other time. But that bitch make these titties. She make it go to the song that's on.

[D]

Slide to the left. Slide to the right.

[A]

Shout out to the left. Lady and cheetah bruh. It's crazy.

[B]

Wait, are these her titties or these refurbished titties?

[A]

They big. I assume they gotta be natural titties. That is big and old. Okay, but she got these muscles. She literally. She could literally make them go like this. Like these titties. I said, oh, my God, bitch. I wanna my titties. Don't do that. I say it all the time. The reason for going to a strip club is to humble myself. This is why n cheat, bitch. You can't do that. You can't do that. You can't do that.

[D]

Damn.

[A]

Let me not keep a man.

[C]

Lot of talents. Lot of talents come to the field.

[A]

There's a lot of talent.

[D]

So you're pro. So you understand.

[A]

Nah, I'm not pro. Cheat, but I'm pro. I understand.

[D]

For mental health reasons, I thought.

[A]

No, I understand. Ladies, if you ever wanna understand, you really wanna get.

[C]

This was just a moment to champion. Literally.

[A]

Ladies, if you wanna understand why you are never enough to the right. Nothing you do will keep a man from wandering astray. Just go to the strip club. Look at the way they bend, the way they shake, the chance they have, the beauty, the body, like it's. Baby, you'll understand. Like, Beyonce wasn't enough. Okay, we are never enough as just a solo individual. But if you go to a strip club, especially in Atlanta, it'll allow you to understand life a little better. I'm just gonna put that out there. Just gonna put that out there. But baby crazy. Anyway, let's get into Celebrity Save the Darndest Things. Or do we wanna do. You know what? Let's do it real quick. Let's do it real quick. Only because I like when we get to educate people. And then we'll get into Celebrities Save the Darndest Things, where we're really just gonna talk shit about everybody. Just to update you guys, again, last week, I talked about Kai Sinot. You know, in my mind, still performative, but reading on stream. And it led to a lot of conversations and backlash around literacy and this being a good thing. Shout out to Trev. Read me for filth in the discord. So, again, if you hate my takes and you too, want your opinion to get directly to me, join us on Patreon patreon.com withmandyb Trev Let me know. He hated my take on Kaisanot. Last week, however, wanted to let y' all know what the government is doing to keep us illiterate. Arkansas recently passed a bill, a law, actually, that goes into effect February 1st. So this week, where they want to keep contraband out of Arkansas prisons, and somehow they have added print media. So books and magazines are now considered contraband for Arkansas prisons. They do have something where librarians will vet whatever books are like in the prisons, but it's considered contraband for it to be, like, sent out. Mind you, little backstory on me. I had a boyfriend when I was 18 years old. I was in high school, and his brother went to jail. I don't know if y' all know my history, but I have been featured in two Straight stunt magazines. And when I was in Straight Stuntin', I did not know that those magazines were being sent to prisons. So this was K Slay magazine, Sticky page magazine.

[D]

Rest in Peace, K. Slay.

[A]

I didn't shout out Rest in peace, K. Slay did not know until my boyfriend was like, do you know, like, who's looking at these magazines? And I was like, nigga, mind you, I'm thinking it's like King. You can get those in grocery stores, Kroger's. I'm thinking, like, it's on the shelves where magazines are sold. I did not know that K Slay at the time was sending boxes of these magazines for inmates to just jack off on.

[B]

Inmate number 696-969-6969 was in there getting baby.

[A]

But yeah, so it's interesting because of course you have that, which I understand could be considered like, paraphernalia, because you know what men are doing when they read those. But it's interesting to me that they're going as far as to, like, other magazines, books, and things of that nature. Like, it was interesting to me now.

[B]

So just an update on that. I'm just seeing it right now. This literally just happened two hours ago. Apparently, there is a hold. It's gonna happen still. There's a hold on this policy. This is. What is. This is five. News Online is reporting that there's an administrative rule that needs to be updated before this policy goes into effect. And there's no timeline right now for when it will begin.

[A]

Oh, so they must have changed. Cause it was supposed to go into effect February 1st.

[B]

February 1st. Yeah. They're saying as of today, some rule needs to change. They don't specify what that is. They just call it an administrative rule that needs to be updated before this can be implemented. So it's still gonna happen. They just have to finagle the bagel.

[A]

Also curious. Now, I know I see a lot of movies and they be hiding weapons and books and all that shit, right?

[C]

So that part.

[A]

Cause it does say that most inmates have tablets which will allow them arrange to download books. So I wonder if it's a safety thing too.

[C]

I think it's a safety thing. I think part of it is like if you send a book directly to them or if you send something directly to them, maybe you're hiding something.

[A]

You're hiding something in the book.

[D]

So maybe the administrative thing is the amount of pages.

[A]

Well. Cause it's interesting. Cause what's the saying? You want to hide something in plain sight? Put it in a book.

[B]

Literally.

[A]

You know what I mean? Put it in a book.

[B]

The only reason I found this kind of weird is because I just assume that at prisons they are inspecting anything that comes in the mail through the door. They're opening packages and all that too. Now I get it. Maybe there could be a lot of packages to open and go through, but that's somebody's job there to look at all of this to make sure there's no contraband in it. So I didn't fully understand why all of a sudden books were like they were unable to do regular security. They should be doing on every other package anyway. But I guess they feel like.

[C]

But I think that might be the thing, right? Because like now it's going to be vetted by librarians. So let's say like the sinister version of it is, you know, these like Stepford type wife, white women vet it. And so like they'll cut off a list of like what goes in and comes out. So it's going to be like no black authors from this time period or. No, this or whatever.

[D]

Like, that's crazy.

[C]

Yeah. Damn.

[A]

We not gonna get no more Muslims bred out of prison.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Okay, that was probably. See? Ignorant.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

My bad. That's just way.

[D]

You got it.

[A]

What? Okay, listen, listen. We'll get.

[B]

Oh, you want to take your shahada, huh?

[D]

I thought she was going to.

[B]

I thought she was going.

[D]

My man.

[A]

Listen, listen. Anyways, I say the darndest things and so do celebrities. Ok? Where we want to start here first, you know what? Coming off of controversial things, let's get into the Kanye apology.

[B]

Kanye.

[A]

And now let's get into Cam'. Ron.

[B]

Cause I don't give a. I like that.

[C]

I like that.

[A]

That's how much I do not like. First off, there's just so much going on right now. This is top tier narcissism. Oh, my God. We are dealing with ice. We are dealing with the orange Cheeto. We are dealing with people being killed in Minnesota. We are dealing with so much happening right now. We are also being recognized in spaces that we fought. So Golden Globes just happened. We get Oscars. They just nominated 16 nominations for sinners. We're in a place where there's just so many other things to talk about. And Kanye's like, but you're not talking about me, but what about me?

[D]

And he dominated our fucking ear holes and our visuals for the last 10 years.

[A]

Your holes got barred by Kanye.

[C]

You dominated by.

[B]

Should have all that power, right?

[D]

Like, he's been dominating this shit for a minute. So it's like, all right, dude, listen. We fuck with you, get help. We ride it for you, but we got other shit to worry about, bro.

[B]

Yeah, we do.

[D]

Big other shit.

[A]

I thought it was so interesting. Well, it was interesting. So Kanye decided to take a full page ad in the Wall Street Journal and he apologized to black and Jewish folks.

[D]

But second time.

[A]

Hold on.

[D]

Second time, too.

[A]

Go ahead. Well, here's the thing, because you did write about this.

[B]

Yeah, I did write about this for bossip. So my thing with the apology. Well, hey, I'll start here. Hey. Yeah, we do have. It's poorly timed to nothing else.

[D]

Poorly time.

[B]

And I will say I don't doubt the sincerity of what he's saying. From the standpoint of it's easy to understand that he got into this accident, that they probably had some brain trauma that didn't help whatever mental health issues he already got going on. I get all of that. At this point, the damage has kind of been done. So if this is him waking up from a hangover, this is also his fifth 11th apology. So who knows really even where to place this thing? But, yeah, we got other shit going on. This doesn't really matters or anything.

[A]

Well, and they're saying his apologies have been lined up with announcements of products or albums or concerts or shows.

[B]

And even to that, I'll say, I don't think that I understand how it looks. I don't think these apologies help launch any of those products. I think the people who. With Kanye will always. With Kanye, the people who don't, don't. And you saying, I'm sorry isn't going to change nobody's mind to sell no products. So if that's. If that is his thinking behind it, that's just a bad marketing, because that ain't. That's not gonna work. Yeah, but my one issue with the apology is that he spent. Granted, he said terrible things about Jewish people. He should apologize to them. But I just felt like he gave them a little bit more sauce in their apology that he gave black people for all the shit he did to us and shit that we feel a type of way about. Cause his line for black people was basically like, george Bush don't like black people. Y' all fuck with me for so long. But in the apology, it's like, oh, y' all fuck with me so long. Damn, that's fucked up. I'm sorry. I love us. And then that was it. And then for the Jewish apology, it was like, I'm not anti Semitic. I love y'. All. And all this whole breakdown of what was going on. And I was just like, damn. Like, we got like, he gave them a hot song. He gave us a hot line. And I was just like, damn. All right, cool. That's just what it is, I suppose.

[A]

But I'm not gonna lie. Did not care.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

His apology means nothing to me.

[B]

That's where most people are falling from.

[A]

And again, like, so the fuck what? I mean, his music hasn't even been that great.

[B]

It hasn't.

[A]

I mean, if he drops the slides for $20 and they look fine, I still buy them. Like, I just get what. You know what I mean?

[D]

There's a way he could do this if he has music coming out, right? You tease people with some new sounds, right? And then that's the lore. It's like, oh, shit, yeah, he got some new fly shit, right?

[C]

But is there a way he could do this, though?

[D]

Well, he could just talk to somebody for 10 minutes and be like, hey, yeah, I'm back. And then slowly do the rollout where he's explaining about all his mental, physical, whatever it is going on, and that's it. But I feel like that probably wouldn't work either. Cause we've probably dealt with that three or four times already.

[A]

I'm curious to see how forgiving we are in terms of musicians now. Only because we have completely threw away and discarded Dababy. But that nigga just dropped some heat. So I am curious to see how this song kind of hits. Because it's a good record and he's dropping a new project and so I'm curious to see in this economy of. In this state of sensitivity where once we say we don't want somebody, we done. I'm just curious to know if that is cap in 2026 to see if we have a resurgence of Dababy. I mean, like, I'm curious to see why not.

[B]

I mean, you know, it's a different time. I was always one to say, you're always one song away from being back now in 2026 that is maybe a little bit tempered because.

[C]

Yeah, I was gonna say it's becoming harder.

[B]

It's becoming harder to do that now because people are standing on whatever dislike they have for you. Whatever you violated, they're standing on. But I did just think about something as we're sitting here talking about this, where this apology came from. Because to me, it was kind of random. And, yeah, I know people would say, oh, maybe he has an album coming out, or whatever. But the more I think about it, this might be a response to the Manosphere clown car that just got hemmed up in Miami between Andrew Tate and Myron Gaines and Nick Smith. I saw that they're in the Sprinter. They're all going to the clubs, all my niggas, How Hitler, and all this wild shit. So.

[D]

Which was an unreleased YAY record.

[B]

Which was an unreleased YAY record. It wasn't ever released, but he did this shit.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

So now that I'm thinking about it, this as much as anything else, might be a response to that more than even an album coming out or some new Yeezy merch coming out. Because if he is in a place where, let's just say he does. He has waken up from his manic state and he feels fucked up and this video comes out, if these three clowns who are part of, like, the denigration of the public discourse around anything that's actually serious, he might actually be looking at it like, damn, this is my legacy. This is what I've done.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Bingo.

[B]

I've inserted this into American culture, and now these niggas are running around talking about Heil Hitler.

[A]

I mean, to me, there was someone left out of the apology, which would have made it seem like he meant it for real. There was no apology to his ex wife, the mother of his children, or his kids.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So to me, specifically, when they've put their neck out to apologize for you, when you've done all the shit that you've done to disgrace them.

[B]

Yeah, say that.

[A]

And if you're gonna apologize to black people, who are strangers to you. Apologize to the Jewish community. And when you've had people actually try to apologize on your behalf, you also apologize to the people that are really directly impacted by your behavior, by your actions.

[B]

He should have said all.

[A]

And so to me, if you didn't.

[B]

Then what is it?

[A]

Yeah, what is this?

[B]

He should have said Jay Z and Beyonce's name, Blue Ivy's name. Like, he talked crazy about that.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

[B]

Like you should have said all those people's names.

[D]

You're spot on.

[B]

Specifically who you damaged and what the apology.

[A]

I'm not gonna lie. Then you're right. I didn't even think to make that connection.

[D]

That resurfaces. And then put his name back in after he holding hands with the rabbi recently. Right. Cause they don't know the timeline when these records come out.

[B]

They don't.

[D]

So they'll just hear like, oh, my.

[B]

Gosh, what is this? I thought he's like, whoa, no, into the bullshit.

[A]

You can go, well, let's get into. I'll say a quick thing, actually. Cause we're not gonna really get much into it. Cause I don't feel any way about him. But this is also me leaning into my hypocrisy. So I just wanna be real hypocritical right now.

[B]

Okay, good.

[A]

So last week, World Boxing association deemed Gervonta Tank Davis the lightweight champion, in recess. This is after a warrant was issued for the boxer by Miami police in connection to October 2025 incident relating to domestic violence. Now, he does have a history of assault in Florida, with the most recent occurring in July of last year. He was accused of hitting the mother of his children. Now, this means that they are removing his title as of right now. But it also means that if he's cleared of charges, or once cleared of charges, his next fight will be a title shot against whoever becomes the WBA lightweight champion. Now, when I first read this, I said, good, take that N title. Cause he out here hitting women. And then I was wearing a Chris Brown shirt.

[C]

Damn.

[A]

And bitch, I go to all his concerts and said, y' all better forget that, man. And the Grammys better nominate him. Which he is nominated again. And so there is this bias. Mm. Because also, I like, I love Christopher Maurice Brown, and he could do no wrong in my eye. But when I saw this, immediately, I was like, yeah, that's what consequences. But I guess when reading it, too, the fact that if he's cleared of these charges, that he can have a title shot. Again, it is also in relation to then Chris Brown now finally being nominated again for a Grammy with his song with Bryson Tiller. So there's been forgiveness, there's been charges. You know, he's done his community service and things like that. But yeah, I had that quick little.

[B]

Well, I mean the thing about it is is that like, who knows when he's gonna get to defend that title. Cause right now, to my knowledge, he's still on the run.

[A]

Oh damn.

[C]

And he hasn't been arrested as of a recording time.

[B]

As of recording. As of this recording, he has not been found. He is on the run from the feds. So like by the time they catch his ass adjudicate this kid.

[A]

But apparently his next fight gonna be against Miami pd.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

It ain't gonna be against the lightweight champions, it's gonna be against the Popos. It's gonna be against 12.

[B]

So like there's no. It could be years before he fights again.

[A]

And then I wonder if even the World Boxing association wants to be associated with whatever.

[B]

With whatever happens. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, wow. Okay.

[B]

Who knows? We'll see.

[C]

I think, I think too like this will probably be like another episode. But like the like, you know, Chris Brown is like independent contractor, right? Whereas like Tank Davis, he's an artist, he's a part of an association. And I think like when we talk about like the Aiden Ross's and kind of like a lot of these other people that we talk about, like, you know, they have sort of like this independent power base that allows them to get away with shit, you know what I mean? Or just lessen the consequences of their actions.

[A]

Valid. I mean, I guess we can compare this as well to the NFL, which I mean, by the way. This is not a sports pod.

[B]

This is not a sports pod.

[A]

This is not a sports pod. You stacking spots. However, I don't know if y' all saw the conspiracies about. There's a photo posted by the NFL back before the season and it has the Seahawks and the Patriots all the.

[D]

Way in the back. They're looking at the trial, but also.

[A]

Stefan Diggs trial for domestic violence and beating a woman was also pushed to after super bowl which led people to believe. Oh yeah, the Patriots going to the Super Bowl. Cause why else is this. The trial was supposed to take place in January.

[D]

Is it a script?

[A]

There's a script.

[D]

Damn.

[A]

Go Seahawks, listen.

[D]

Go Seahawks, listen.

[A]

By the way, by the way, I know you in Jersey, but you rep New York. Did you not See that? They lit the Empire State Building. Patriots colors.

[C]

I did see that.

[A]

Yuck.

[D]

Why did.

[C]

But it does that. They'll do Celtics colors if they wanted, like the Eastern concert.

[B]

Yeah, they do.

[D]

They do.

[C]

Yeah, they're very Empire State. Yeah, Empire State Building controllers.

[D]

They just show.

[A]

That's crazy. Which, by the way, I had a friend who dated a guy who worked at some hedge fund company, uh, oh, some wild shit. And he came over and did some dope ass shit. So there's an app in New York if you work for this company that you can literally on your phone, change the lights to whatever. So he said the niggas at this company used to take girls on dates where they could see the Empire State Building. And we would do it from my balcony. So he was like, nah, give me a color right now. What's your favorite color? Mind you, we're looking at the Empire State Building from my balcony in New York, and I'm like, ballin' purple.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Literally, he'd press the app and the top of the Empire State Building would turn purple. And I'd be like, nah, man, no way. No way. And we went through everyone on the balcony and he would change up the color. So he was like, yo, there's this restaurant where the guys take all their dates to. Cause, nigga, you get to control. And you get to control the fucking Empire State Building title.

[D]

What's the reward?

[A]

You said, what now?

[D]

What's the reward for that, nigga?

[A]

My pussy jumped.

[D]

What did that do for you?

[B]

That's okay.

[A]

The beauty.

[B]

I just changed the building, nigga, to.

[A]

The color that you want.

[B]

It just.

[A]

It gave this man a. And he wasn't my man. But my N was like, hey, yo.

[B]

Yo, yo, chill with all that color changing.

[A]

But it was like, I was like, oh, this is cute.

[B]

Yeah, that's not a bad flex. This is cute. That's not a bad flex.

[A]

All right, last topic. Let's get into it. Cam' Ron recently had a conversation with his ex, Kelly o' Day, on his Talk with Flea show on Revolt in Mid Episode. Somehow this bitch made me agree with goddamn cam'. Ron. And I said, who is this bitch anyways? Let's play the clip of what took place before we dive into it.

[D]

I don't need nobody protect and provide for me.

[B]

I'm not looking for that. I'm just trying.

[A]

You're a man.

[B]

I wouldn't expect that.

[A]

So as a woman, if I share my body with a man, I shouldn't expect him to want to protect and provide for me. That's what you would teach your daughter. That's what you would teach your daughter.

[D]

Oh, teach her daughter. I'm sorry. She just haven't.

[A]

With a man that doesn't want to protect and provide for her, like what?

[D]

The problem is this. You want to protect.

[B]

Women are equal.

[D]

What I'm trying to explain to you.

[B]

Is this for me, I rather invest.

[D]

In my female than give my female.

[B]

And that's the problem. Never invested in me because you had bad investments.

[D]

That's why you're in nursing school.

[A]

That's not why I'm in nursing school. I've been working on my nursing degree since 2019.

[D]

Why you don't have it yet?

[A]

I opened the business to help me get through nursing school, which was a.

[B]

Passive income, which was a bad investment.

[D]

She could have walked it back.

[A]

The cricket, the cricket, the cricket, the cricket.

[B]

This nigga can't.

[D]

Yo. She tried to throw the daughter.

[A]

You wouldn't do that to your daughter. Yeah, yeah. No, I didn't. I didn't like that. I mean, here's the thing, too. As women, we have to understand and get to a place where we watch our tone and delivery.

[C]

Mm.

[A]

And I think here we saw a clear example of Kim keeping calm and her making it more emotional than it needed to be. I also think it's interesting for her to say I started a business to get myself through nursing school. Here's the thing. Nursing school, for those of you who don't know one to two years for nursing school. She's been in it since 2019. As of today's 2026, she still does not have that nursing degree. So I agree there was a bad investment made, but also this idea that you want to start a business to get passive income to pay for an actual degree. I've told y' all a lot of this times, stay with your day job, get that degree, and have that degree and that source of money pay for you investing, you putting everything in. Businesses don't just guarantee passive income. That's another, like, thing. And maybe Cam was able to actually.

[C]

See, like, oh, don't nobody want to buy your candles.

[A]

I don't think is a good investment.

[B]

A business is a liability until it's an asset.

[C]

Ooh.

[B]

And is a business is a liability until it's an asset.

[A]

You can write off some of this podcast a liability. This podcast a liability, y'. All.

[B]

Like, that's a cost. You're in the. You're in the red until you're in the black. Like, that's just what it is. So. Yeah, I don't. I don't understand that I have to acknowledge this first. The way Cam said my female is crazy, to me, that sounded nuts. I mean, I'd rather invest my female than give my female.

[A]

I mean, hood niggas couldn't talk like this.

[B]

They were like, what?

[A]

I don't like that it was giving caveman because you know better.

[B]

Yeah, that sounded real, Geico. It sounded real.

[C]

Like.

[D]

Sounded real part of it, too. You know, he. He has a hint of sarcasm in there.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

100% their exes. Right?

[C]

He knows that's a polite way to.

[B]

Say she was clearly triggered by whatever the converse. Yes, she was triggered by the. She was triggered. That's where that.

[D]

Admit her triggering was actually. It sounds like she had some unresolved issues.

[A]

She was mad Cam ain't giving her more money.

[B]

They've had that argument several times. Several times. That was not the first time they came out.

[D]

And she made a choice to get up on that platform, too.

[B]

Well, yeah, so. But the mistake she made was, like, she walked into the. The nursing school line, though.

[D]

Oh, yeah. And she can't take it back.

[B]

Did smack into that. I've been trying to get it since 2019. Why would you say that to Cameron?

[A]

Why would you say that publicly?

[B]

That's crazy.

[D]

Like, that was the alley.

[B]

Oops.

[A]

My thing is knowing that these conversations were probably being had already. Girl, you want to take this on a podcast to the streets?

[C]

Yeah, that's what I wanted to ask. Did y' all see when the game was on with Shanice Harrison?

[A]

Oh, no, that was even more embarrassing.

[C]

It's like conversations they had in private that they relitigating in front of everything.

[A]

I'm not gonna lie. Cause the game is the homie.

[D]

Uh. Oh, the game.

[A]

Yeah. That's the homie. But I knew I ain't make no baby with him, so hold on. I think he a cool guy. I don't know about red rope, partner.

[D]

Red rope.

[C]

It's just the idea of having those conversations.

[A]

You gotta realize Shaniya talked about the things that she wanted had the baby by him. Also the embarrassment of him at his big age saying, well, you a baddie. So we, as men, look at baddies and just wanna make them baby mamas. That was crazy. But also, as a woman who is 30, you're no longer a spring chicken. He has three kids with another woman that he never made a wife.

[B]

Mmm.

[A]

So you again, women have this delusion that they're gonna be the ones they're gonna Change. And also, if you've had enough conversations with him, girl, who did you think he was gonna change by bringing a baby into this world? You thought he was gonna turn into a whole new man. Like, if you talk to Game, game is game.

[D]

She knew.

[A]

She knew. So there's also a bit of, like, lack of empathy for me as a question, though.

[C]

But do they know, though? Cause, like, with her and with Cam's, girl, like, but when you're in a relationship, you're clearly like rose tinted lenses. The way you're looking at your.

[A]

She not a rose tinted lens. When your mama done dated an NBA player, a baseball player, NFL player, like, she done been. She done been around.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She got enough game to give.

[B]

Yeah. Like, I just feel like, listen, I don't. You can't. We'll never know what type of conversations they had, how they found romance or whatever the fuck they want to call it. But, like, you should go into those situations just being like, all right, he's gonna try to take advantage of me. I'm gonna try to take advantage of him. And even exchanges. No robbery.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Like, you can't go into a relationship.

[A]

That might be it.

[B]

Any of these niggas and feel like, oh, but he really loves me, and I really love him. You shouldn't even be entertaining that kind of shit with these type of niggas. You should just be going in there saying, I'm gonna have a good time. He's gonna have a good time. I'm gonna give up some pussy, he's gonna give up some money. We're gonna go on vacations and hang out for a little while. And when this shit ends, it ends. And I gotta make sure I don't get pregnant and get stuck with this nigga and his bullshit.

[A]

Well, the even exchange, too, with a man with money and power, often is the assumption that you gonna get some money. It was very clear by what Shanice was saying that she wanted some level of emotional intelligence and protection from Game that he wasn't offering.

[B]

And I'm not saying she doesn't deserve that. I'm just saying you're gonna get that from him.

[A]

Like, listen, listen. We talked about speed. We talked about when he was on Kirk Franklin thing. He's working through it.

[C]

He's working through it.

[A]

He's working through it.

[C]

By the time he's 60, he'll get there.

[A]

He's working through it.

[B]

Work on, player, work on.

[A]

Well, y', all, this was fun.

[B]

It was.

[A]

Hope y' all enjoyed.

[B]

Did you even tell. Did you even like give people what they probably looking at this like, where? This is nice.

[C]

Where y' all at?

[B]

This swanky little set. Where y' all at?

[D]

What's going on?

[A]

Most of our listens come from audio. Cause I'm audio first.

[B]

Fair.

[A]

But I'm hoping that you guys do check out the full length video on Patreon or YouTube.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause baby, we got our own set.

[B]

Hon, you are nice. Look, you did a good job. Thank you.

[C]

That's custom right there.

[A]

I'm getting ready for Netflix. Okay, no, Netflix better be like, hey, we need to see Mandy on TV in 4K. But yeah, we are now at my own set. Brought Full Court Media Studios down to the A. So yeah, really excited and hopefully if you guys want, I'll maybe drop an address for y' all to send some fan stuff. I would love to fill up this set with more dope shit. But yeah, really excited. We have a new home and hope you guys enjoyed nonetheless, y'. All. This has been an episode of Selective Ignorance, where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter. See you puss ass hoes next week. Bye. Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect Podcast network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[C]

Thanks for tuning in to Selective Ignorance with Mandy B. Selective Ignorance is executive produced by Mandy B. And it's a full Court Media Studio production with lead producers Jason Rodriguez, that's me. And Aaron A. King Howard. Now do us a favor and rate, subscribe, comment and share wherever you get your favorite podcast. And be sure to follow Selective Ignorance on Instagram Elective Ignorant. And of course, if you're not following our host, Mandy B. Make sure you're following her at Fullcourt Pumps. Now, if you want the full video experience of Selective Ignorance, make sure you subscribe to the Patreon. It's patreon.com selectiveignorance.

[A]

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