Selective Ignorance: Ep. 56 | This Podcast Is Heaven Sent

Summary

Podcast Summary: Decisions, Decisions – Selective Ignorance: Ep 56 | This Podcast Is Heaven Sent

Date: March 24, 2026
Hosts: Mandy B and guests King Coogler, Jason Rodriguez, Jason Jolie, and others (as part of The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts)

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Episode Overview

Ep 56 of "Selective Ignorance: This Podcast is Heaven Sent" dives deep into the intersection of modern relationships, hip hop culture, societal double standards, and current events. Hosts Mandy B and her panel mix humor, candid opinions, and thought-provoking analysis on topics ranging from viral celebrity controversies and boundary-pushing relationships to sports equity, ticketing battles, and timely political chaos.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Culture & Relationships: Cheating, Accountability, and Polyamory

(12:19 – 22:38)

• Jason shares his “ignorant thought” about public reactions to cheating:

  "I won't name any names. But I saw a thread hit one of my group chats this week about a woman who was talking about how basically polyamory and like three way relationships are detrimental to women and how she was heartbroken that this public figure was a womanizer… I don't give a fuck if your boyfriend cheated on you… Don't come on here talking about trying to air people out 'cause they cheated… We don't give a fuck about that." (12:26)

• Mandy B points out public fascination with cheating scandals and complex dynamics in modern love, noting:

  "People actually do like the drama of hearing other people are cheating…there's so many people that are actually existing in those things as well." (13:22)

• Hosts discuss—often with humor and candor—the complications and shifting expectations within poly, triangular, or non-traditional relationships, touching on judgment, airing grievances publicly, and navigating societal double standards.

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2. Weaponization of Sex and Accountability in Gendered Conversations

(15:51 – 27:03)

• Mandy critiques how social narratives swing between hyper-fear and seeking protection from men, highlighting the contradiction:

  "We're having these secular conversations where…we want to be with men, we want to be married…yet the other scope, it's like, fear all men…How do we hold women accountable for the weaponization of sex…How do we hold place for men finally coming out expressing they've been victims of assault?" (15:51)

• She critiques the narrative of perpetual female victimhood and the difficulty of holding nuanced conversations about consent, accountability, and power dynamics—especially with celebrity sexual scandals (Monica Lewinsky/Bill Clinton), and the evolving public understanding of sexual exploitation.

• On male victims and societal reactions:

  "Men being victims is a fucking joke...There are a lot of men that didn't realize they were assaulted until now...We're reaching a place where men are now opening up about being molested by older women." (16:35/21:54)

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3. Viral Music Controversy: LaRussell’s “Heaven Sent” Lyric Debate

(34:10 – 46:36)

• Discussion around rapper LaRussell’s controversial snippet equating notorious figures (“Even the devil was heaven sent. Even Malcolm was heaven sent. Even Martin was heaven sent. Even Kanye was heaven sent. We all heaven sent. Donald 2. We all haven't sent Epstein too. All right, we all haven't sent. Adolph, too.” (35:27)) with “heaven sent.”

• Jason (37:34):

  “What fake deep thing is this supposed to be?...We're supposed to, like, love and respect all of God's children. I do not love and respect all of God's children, especially the ones you named in the song.”

• Intense debate (with jokes about “goofball raisin biscuits”) about artistic responsibility, doubling down on controversial art, and when artists should listen to public feedback versus sticking to their guns.

• Mandy B:

  “…as an artist, this is career suicide, where you’re finally probably…opening yourself up to more audiences that knew you before these 42 albums, and this is what you give us.” (43:19)

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4. Jay-Z Concerts, Hip-Hop Generations, and Revisiting the New York Canon

(48:07 – 68:23, highlights through 69:33)

• Panel excitement over Jay-Z’s upcoming 3 shows (two at Yankee Stadium: Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint; one at Roots Picnic).
• Mandy B admits not being part of the Jay-Z cult, sharing her own southern (Florida) upbringing and diff music touchpoints:

  “Jay Z didn’t trickle down to me…It was Trick Daddy, Wayne, Outkast, Ludacris, TI, gz, Gucci…” (54:43)

• Panel debates regional generational perspectives and which Jay-Z songs are true club classics.
• Nostalgic speculation on possible surprise appearances (like Nas) and the perpetual hope for “hip hop moment” at these upcoming shows.

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5. Hip Hop Gossip: Cam’ron, Mase, Shine, and Ray J/Brandi Drama

(69:45 – 80:48)

• Recap of viral It Is What It Is podcast moment where Mase, Cam’ron, and Shine chat about dating Brandi.
• Ray J (Brandi’s brother) goes off in defense, prompting social media mudslinging. Brandi publicly denies dating Shine—calling it strictly platonic and hinting at promo for her memoir.
• Panel analysis:

  “Cause Brandi didn’t deny Mace. It’s giving…she deleted that body. ‘Cause it wasn’t good…If it wasn’t good, we gonna say you lying.” – Mandy B (73:58)
  “Who is more likely to be lying about this situation?” – Jason (75:15)
  Panel concludes: Both sides have ego to maintain, and how “dating” is defined is often murky and self-serving in celebrity circles.

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6. WNBA’s New CBA: Women Demand and Get What They Want

(86:16 – 92:16)

• Mandy B breaks down significant new WNBA contract details:

  • Salary cap up from $1.5 million (old) to [significant growth – specifics not given in summary].
  • Supermax deal up from $249K to $1.4 million.
  • Average salary from $120K to $600K; minimum salary up from $66K to $300K.

• Jason:

  “Ballin'. Get your money. If they wanted to, they would. And if you ask for it, they could.” (88:00)

• Discussion about increased ticket costs, growth in TV and league revenue, importance of supporting players as they become new celebrities, and whether existing fan bases will “show their love with their wallets.”

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7. Popeyes Bankruptcy & The Business of Fried Chicken

(93:02 – 98:36)

• News break: 130 Popeyes locations in Florida/Georgia file for bankruptcy.
• Speculation about competition from Chick-fil-A, Bojangles, Church’s, and Dallas BBQ; reflections on culture, geography, and changing business fortunes in comfort food.

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8. Airport Chaos, TSA, ICE and Political Showdowns

(103:37 – 111:59)

• Mandy B describes her ATL airport woes amid government shutdown and TSA staff not getting paid, leading to huge lines and ICE agents deployed at the airports.

• Jason:

  “They’re not deploying ICE to the airport to make up for TSA…they’re not there to help the process be faster. ICE is just going to be there…to take revenge against people that he just wants to fuck with.” (104:24)

• Analysis of how voter IDs, “real IDs,” and new travel requirements will complicate things, particularly for women.

• Hosts urge: Public must stay informed and not get caught in political propaganda (“Read, don’t just believe the narrative!”).

• On TSA agents:

  “We shout out the military—like, yo, thank you for your service…Salute the people. They don’t have to show up. But if we don’t show up, this shit is done.” (111:17)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Words mean things. And it’s giving that he didn’t know what heaven sent meant.” — Mandy B (04:20)
• “You know what? If I sit on this microphone and say, yeah, I listen to Drake, guess what I could do? Name a song that I like.” — Mandy B (41:25)
• “It’s not a sports podcast, but thank God…The WNBA has a new CBA agreement.” — Mandy B (05:09)
• “Goofball Raisin Biscuit, bro.” – Jason (39:00)
• “You gotta own that body, though.” – King Coogler (74:30)
• “If you go to Decatur, you go to Candler Road, you’ll probably see a Church’s [Chicken], but…there’s Popeyes on Roswell Road in Sandy Springs. There’s Popeyes in Buckhead…There’s Popeyes in the airport.” — Mandy B/Panel (96:36)

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• Polyamory, Cheating & Public Drama: 12:19 – 22:38
• Weaponization of Sex, Gendered Narratives: 15:51 – 27:03
• LaRussell Heaven Sent Controversy: 34:10 – 46:36
• Jay-Z Concerts Generations & Hip-Hop: 48:07 – 69:33
• Hip Hop Gossip (Mase, Cam’ron, Shine, Brandi/Ray J): 69:45 – 80:48
• WNBA CBA & Women’s Pay: 86:16 – 92:16
• Popeyes Bankruptcy & Fried Chicken Wars: 93:02 – 98:36
• TSA, ICE & Airport Politics: 103:37 – 111:59

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Panel Tone & Show Style

• Raw, unapologetic, and comedic—hosts mix jokes, personal anecdotes, sharp social critique, and pop culture analysis.
• The vibe is reflective of a lively barbershop or group chat: honesty prioritized over politeness, challenging each other and pushing boundaries.
• Frequent asides and references to Black culture, regional differences, and generational shifts in media.

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Final Thoughts

"Selective Ignorance" continues to earn its title, leaning into controversy and refusing easy answers, but always centering the lived realities and contradictions of modern relationships and culture. If you crave real talk about music, society, gender, and the state of things, this episode is a microcosm of where contemporary public discourse meets humor, history, and unfiltered storytelling.

Transcript

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[Mandy B]

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[Jason]

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[Mandy B]

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[King Coogler]

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[Mandy B]

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[Jason]

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[Mandy B]

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[King Coogler]

It begs to be seen in a packed theater.

[Mandy B]

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[Jason]

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[King Coogler]

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[Mandy B]

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[Take Five Tech]

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[Mandy B]

and fees, extra fee, full [e-mail] hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However, before we get to this week's episode, I want to remind you guys to purchase my book, no Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel free to go to your local bookstores, preferably queer owned, black owned or woman owned, to support them, but also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles or wherever you read your books. Again, that is no Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Wheezy. Make sure y' all get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This is Mandy Bay. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect podcast network and iHeartRadio. Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance with me, your host, Mandy B. And we are getting into all of the ignorant things for this week. We're gonna kick it off a little light. We're not gonna start off with politics just yet. We're actually starting off with celebrities because they are literally saying the darnest things. Apparently La Russell is letting us know that everyone is heaven sent.

[King Coogler]

We are heaven sent.

[Mandy B]

And guess what guys? Words mean things. And it's giving that he didn't know what heaven sent meant. But we're getting into that. As well as all of New York being happy with the three way. Not threesome, but a three way announcement of three Jay Z shows coming to us. Two at Yankee Stadium, one at Ruth's Picnic, and luckily I'm joined by all of these hip hop historians, two of which are up north. So I guess they really are gonna have so much to say about Ho Ho. Then we're getting into the mess of other New York people. Mase, Cameron and Shine decided to be chatty patties and talk about what Brandi's puss was like. And then, of course, Ray J jumped into the mix.

[Jason]

Why are you gay?

[Mandy B]

We have thoughts on all of these things and whether or not men are the new bitches these days. And then this is not a sports podcast, but thank God, guess what happens when women ask for the things they want. We can't believe it. The WNBA has a new CBA agreement. And we're gonna get into all of the details surrounding that and how in 2026, women, you just may need to ask for what you want in life. And then in this Is America, I will share with y' all my TSA debacle at the ATL airport this week. Because, of course, Trump is threatening to replace TSA workers with ice if the DHS shutdown doesn't end soon. They're eating the dogs. The orange Cheeto is fucking up my travel plans. And we gonna get into all of it. Of course, y' all know I am joined by my super producer, y'.

[King Coogler]

All.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Gang, gang, gang, we back.

[King Coogler]

I'm back.

[Mandy B]

Journalism. Jason up in Jersey decided to join us again, y'. All. At this point, he's. Maybe I gotta change it. I feel like I'm giving unlimited PTO here.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And, yo, selective ignorance got them good benefits. I don't know about the rest of you podcast operations, but over here, Mandy's good to you if you're good to her. You see how I sold that? You see how I did that? You see how I flipped that flow?

[Mandy B]

Yeah. Nah, I don't know about that. I actually think I might be being too nice. I'm like. So you're not joining us again? Oh, so this is a bi weekly thing? Oh, okay. Okay.

[Dan Morgan]

Oh, man.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It was, like, full on theater production all weekend long. These kids. Boy, you think she was Idina Menzel out here?

[Jason]

It's crazy.

[Mandy B]

No. And then I know, like, you're now having to wake up at, like, 3 o'clock in the morning five times a week, so.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So, yeah, 4:30. 4:30. I get a little bit of extra sleep.

[Mandy B]

That's crazy.

[King Coogler]

You gotta deal with some mo kids. No shots.

[Jason]

No shots.

[Mandy B]

No, it is. It's Mero the kid. The kid.

[Jason]

Mero the kid Mero.

[King Coogler]

I think he'd be a good kid. I think he's a good kid, though.

[Mandy B]

He's a great kid. I love Mero. I love Mero. And then y', all, we are joined by OG Pod legend, a King Coogler in the building.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Get that name right.

[Mandy B]

We got a king in the director's chair if y' all are watching on video.

[King Coogler]

Yeah. What's up, everybody? What's good, Mandy?

[Mandy B]

What's good?

[Jason]

What's happening?

[King Coogler]

You gave us a small sample size of the Cesar buzz cut this past week. And then you went and got a little wiggy wig.

[Mandy B]

A wiggy wig is crazy. This is called a 27 piece.

[King Coogler]

OK?

[Mandy B]

I gotta put y' all on game.

[King Coogler]

Okay?

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Jason]

All flats.

[Mandy B]

You know, all flats.

[Jason]

All flats.

[Mandy B]

All flats.

[Jason]

27 piece.

[King Coogler]

Each of each have its own number.

[Mandy B]

It's 27 pieces of hair.

[King Coogler]

Really?

[Poshmark Announcer]

Yes.

[King Coogler]

How do you even research this stuff? Like, how do you get there? How do you get the 27 versus 49?

[Mandy B]

I don't know. I don't know. But you buy it. Like it literally say 27 piece. So this is a 27 piece lemon pepper at the Velvet Remy.

[King Coogler]

That's a lemon pepper.

[Jason]

It's a lemon pepper too.

[Mandy B]

You know, it got a little.

[Jason]

Yeah, uh huh.

[Mandy B]

It's called Dr. 630 Dominican.

[King Coogler]

What's it?

[Jason Rodriguez]

A King Darkly. I thought you was gonna say she got a wig like Jack Harlow.

[Mandy B]

I thought.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I thought you was gonna. I'm flowing today. I'm flowing today.

[Mandy B]

My hair does not look like Jack Harlow. We're not doing that. I mean, we are not doing that.

[King Coogler]

You gotta get the side. The music, Soul child like, hat that he has.

[Mandy B]

Well, I just told you, I'm about to put you on retainer. I need you to be my barber.

[King Coogler]

Let's go.

[Mandy B]

So we gonna do that.

[King Coogler]

Let's get it. Let's get it.

[Mandy B]

And then y' all already know we got the king of headlines, Jason Jolie, Pop blessing.

[Jason]

All the yap niggas.

[King Coogler]

What up, what up, what up, what

[Mandy B]

up, what up, what up? Wig. What up? Wig?

[Jason]

My wig.

[Mandy B]

My wig.

[Take Five Tech]

Oh.

[King Coogler]

So it just came out.

[Jason]

Pause.

[Mandy B]

This is. This is what I have to deal with. Sitting with all men.

[King Coogler]

Yeah. I'm not gonna lie.

[Jason]

I love.

[King Coogler]

I love this one. I love this 27. It's like perfume.

[Jason]

It does sound like a perfume, though. Something luxurious.

[King Coogler]

The one she had three weeks ago. Wig. Don't do that.002. That got a Jo Dirt back.

[Jason]

I like the Joe Dirt you talking about.

[King Coogler]

I don't like the Joe Dirt. The Mullet.

[Mandy B]

But you was okay with the skunk vibe?

[King Coogler]

No, I'm glad. I was like, yo, internally, I was like, how long Is this gonna last?

[Jason]

She was like, anime. Mandy, if you was a man anime, I feel like that would be the thing.

[King Coogler]

But she had that one. They had no superpowers.

[Jason]

Like, she just got that one was just.

[Mandy B]

This sounds so ignorant, y'.

[King Coogler]

All. I really actually would have been.

[Mandy B]

I actually cannot stand y' all right now, by the way, look.

[King Coogler]

Fantastic.

[Mandy B]

Thank you.

[King Coogler]

You got a little yellow tanny tan on you.

[Mandy B]

You know, A bitch. Listen, there was a heat wave in la, so I made sure that I sat my ass by the pool.

[King Coogler]

I opened the app.

[Mandy B]

Don't do this.

[King Coogler]

See, you know, I don't even have to say it.

[Jason]

Scroll right.

[King Coogler]

Scroll right past the. Open the app and I see all

[Mandy B]

these I'm like cheeks.

[King Coogler]

I'm like. And I said, yeah. I can't just get out of this.

[Mandy B]

Listen, summertime around the corner. I gotta make sure my roster's intact. Okay?

[Jason]

Get your Zyrtec, get your Claritin. The pollen is out. This when I tell you don't wash your car, bro. Forget about it.

[King Coogler]

You wash your cars and nothing but green pollen on your dog now.

[Mandy B]

You've been talking all morning. Jai, you just came back from. You did cnn.

[Jason]

Oh, yeah, Yeah, I did see. I did see. What was the conversation? Honestly? We talked about a lot of things we're gonna talk about today. We'll probably have a different, more niggery conversation here this morning.

[Mandy B]

First us wait in the first six minutes, nigger and say being said insane.

[Jason]

It's a selective ignorance. Now, baby. We doing something different now. We talked about dhs. We talked about ICE at the airport. We talked about damn gas prices. Okay, what else are we talking?

[King Coogler]

Did talking about the FCC consolidation?

[Jason]

No, we didn't get to that. That was on the rundown. We didn't get to that.

[King Coogler]

That's homework for the next episode for sure. Yeah, very concerning. There was some consolidation this past few days where the FCC approved the acquisition and merger of, like, the biggest media companies that don't look like us.

[Mandy B]

Oh.

[King Coogler]

And now they control 80%. It looks like 80% of media and television.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, shit.

[King Coogler]

So you know what that means, right?

[Mandy B]

Oh, shit.

[King Coogler]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Well, speaking of merchants, we did talk about today on cnn, we did talk a little bit about Live Nation and, like, the comments that the EX employees had made and just how they have, like, a death grip on ticketing.

[King Coogler]

Yes.

[Jason]

And I guess we'll get to some of that, too, when we talk about the Jay Z stuff. Oh, definitely trying to get these tickets and, like, what they about to hit you in the head for for getting some.

[King Coogler]

Shh, man.

[Mandy B]

You know, I saw some of these and I'm like, is it not a recession?

[Jason]

Yeah. They act like they don't know what's going on out here.

[King Coogler]

But don't forget the tariffs is tariffing. It's the trickle down effect. Everything is everything.

[Mandy B]

They put it on. I'm just confused with where people are getting this money. Cause rents still do, yo, right? You still gotta eat. Like where is the money coming from?

[Jason]

My sister in law hit me. She was like, you know what, I'm just swiping. I'm just gonna go on American Express. We gonna figure it out later. I gotta be at this show.

[Mandy B]

That's crazy.

[Jason]

Game is the game.

[Mandy B]

Now, have y' all had any ignorant thoughts takes moments in the past week?

[Jason]

I had an ignorant thought, okay, I had an ignorant thought and I think I always felt like this, but it didn't really crystallize for me until I saw something. And I'm not gonna. I won't, for, for the sake of the controversy, I won't name any names. But I saw a thread hit one of my group chats this week about a woman who was talking about how basically polyamory and like three way relationships are detrimental to women and how she was heartbroken that this public figure was a womanizer and all of these things. And I think my ignorant thought was judgy. I don't give a fuck if your boyfriend cheated on you. Like if you go to the WI Fi, if the nigga did some crimes, go to the WI Fi, if the nigga, if there's a sexual assault or nigga stole some shit or there's something actually happening. Don't come on here talking about trying to air people out cause they cheated on you or because they broke your heart or whatever the case is. We don't give a fuck about that.

[Mandy B]

We care. I mean, I'm not gonna lie. It's the same reason why Risa Tisa got a couple mil off of her story. People actually do like the drama of hearing other people are cheating.

[Jason]

Right?

[Mandy B]

Like, to be fair, the entire Internet is talking about how we're all proud of a baby announcement by a woman who just got a baby coming with a married man. Like, and congratulations to her, you know. But like, so when we think about like these triangular relationships, these poly dynamics, these like there's so many people that are actually existing in those things as well.

[King Coogler]

So let me ask you something. Was it a non poly person speaking about poly people?

[Mandy B]

Well, no, it was someone talking about

[Jason]

being cheated On, Yeah, this person was in a triangular relationship with a public figure.

[King Coogler]

Consensual.

[Jason]

Consensual. But she was talking about how her heart is broken now and he's a womanizer.

[Mandy B]

Wait, what is a triangular relationship?

[King Coogler]

Yo, see, we moved the goalpost.

[Mandy B]

Wait, what is it? I.

[Jason]

She didn't even explain this. This is what made me mad, though. She said, I'm. This person is a womanizer because they broke my heart inside of this triangular relationship. This is bad for women. And then she went on to say the next post, this is not trying to be messy. I'm just trying to share my hurt out loud. I'm like, what are you talking about?

[Mandy B]

No, no, no.

[Jason]

Of course this is trying to be messy.

[King Coogler]

Stop being out loud.

[Jason]

Why would you.

[Mandy B]

Why do you stop being out loud?

[Jason]

Why do you say you're hurt out loud? What does that even mean?

[King Coogler]

Go to a therapist. They have.

[Jason]

That's what I'm saying. Like, why are.

[King Coogler]

You don't have answers, bro? They just going to double, triple and quadruple down about empty fucking theories and arguments about.

[Mandy B]

So you wanna know what's crazy about you bringing that up as your ignorant moment? So I have felt really exhausted lately with my other podcast and I literally. Weezy and I had to have a conversation because I'm trying to figure out. And I feel like this podcast may be trickling into it because there's so much things happening politically. I am concerned with the right way to discuss sex right now because the swing of the pendulum is happening. Right? And so we're having these conversations about patriarchy and all these women want to be chosen and feel protected by men. Yet then the other conversation is that we should fear all men because they can't keep their dicks in their pants and they all just want to grape us and assault us. And like, we're just having these secular conversations where, in one lens, from a romantic standpoint, we wanna be with men, we wanna be married with them, we wanna bear their children, we wanna feel protected by them. And then the other scope, it's like, fear all men. We'd rather be with a bear in the woods. And I'm just like, how do we hold women accountable for the weaponization of sex that we're experiencing right now? And how do we hold place for the fact that men are finally coming out, expressing that they're being assaulted, they've been victims of assault. How do we come out and rest

[King Coogler]

in peace to dmx?

[Mandy B]

Listen, Kevin Gates just spoke about it. But see and look so your face, bro. Like men being victims is a fucking joke.

[King Coogler]

No, it's Kevin Gates.

[Jason]

But we talked about. You asked me earlier what we talked about on cnn. We talked about the Bachelorette being canceled a little bit today.

[Mandy B]

Throwing a whole chair at that man.

[Jason]

And with the baby daughter right there, she throwing barstools across the crib. And, you know, this was an old case, but ABC was willing to roll with it until the video came out.

[Mandy B]

But also because she was. And that was my thing. I'm like, we have to. I even told her about the New York Times article where they're literally trying to transition pedophilia, pedophile or whatever.

[King Coogler]

Oh, right.

[Mandy B]

As. As to being a mental disorder. Not a criminal act.

[King Coogler]

Right.

[Jason]

They shouldn't be criminalized for that reason.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. And so there becomes a conversation where we know pedophilia is wrong, but yet you still don't think nothing was wrong when you was 14 fucking a 23 year old. No, that is pedophilia. So, like, there has to be a conversation about how we even speak about our own sexual experiences while acknowledging the shit that actually was not wrong and is not okay. And then in one moment, too, we were talking. I can't wait for y' all to hear us have this conversation on air. But, like, even there was a conversation where she was talking about, you know, experiencing. And I'm summarizing her words for what it was, but how she experienced pleasure as a teenager at a young age. And I was like, no, girl, can we not talk about how at 15, you knew this felt so good because there are children now that, like, it's tricky Epstein, too. It gets tricky.

[Jason]

It gets tricky Adolf, too.

[Mandy B]

And I'm literally like, girl, but the files, the files. And then maybe we'll have another conversation about this. I was real in my bag. So they tried to call Monica Lewinsky a victim. And I said, oh, we not doing that. I don't see it as such. And I was just like, if a woman chooses to suck dick to get further into her career and it doesn't pan out for her, she doesn't get to be a victim. She knew she was sucking dick not only to the President, but a married man at that. And she was 20 years old.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She didn't. So, Mandy, can you unpack that a little bit? Like, what if she's not a victim? So you don't believe in sort of like the power and how it was leveraged uneven between them.

[Mandy B]

So you ready?

[King Coogler]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

She is a victim of being slut shamed by all of the country for sucking some dick, okay? However, I done sucked many a dick in my day. I ain't never kept the dress or the shirt or anything of the nature and just hung it back up in my closet with dry sea.

[Jason]

You didn't want no dick museum, you

[Mandy B]

know what I mean? Like. Like. And then, to be fair, she was a woman. She wasn't a child. She was 20 years old. And fuck, him being the president, he was a married man. You knew he was married nonetheless, right? And so for me, this is another thing. There are a lot of powerful, successful, rich, affluent men. I hate the fact that because they've made it to this level in society, that now they are the monsters and they can't have sex with no one. And now there's this huge power dynamic, and it immediately leans into coercion because as a woman, we just can't say no, bro, I wouldn't suck Michael Jordan dick. So, like, there's so many, like, affluent men. I don't give a fuck how fucking rich and popular you are. I'm not sucking your dick because I don't want to. And so, to me, there has to be more of a conversation of accountability for women, but also, like, knowing how to say no and feeling comfortable with no, because that's a thing that we're teaching with consent. Why does consent not matter? And why are we such damsels when it comes to a rich, powerful man? And what I'm saying is, with the swing of the pendulum, we now have these rich, powerful, affluent men that don't even wanna hire women because they think

[Jason]

something is gonna go or something might happen or they can't.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They can't keep their hands off.

[Mandy B]

You know what I mean? But even with the NDA, it's just like, dang, now there's fear of men even wanting to work with women because of the fact that anything with sex, anything that's said out of your mouth that makes you feel uncomfortable could be weaponized in a way that completely destroys that man's life. And I think there are women using that to their advantage right now. Now, yes, there are real victims. There's a lot of women. What is it? Three in every four experience assault. Like. And so to me, the conversation is too, though, now, like, how do we make sure that the victims are really heard? And all of this other. Other, you know.

[King Coogler]

Yeah.

[Jason]

So you feel like, in general, that the societal temperature right now makes it hard to have a podcast or for you to have those conversations on decisions just based off of, like, how do I talk about These things without it

[Mandy B]

seeming well, because also a lot of the conversations with men and women around dating, sex, all the things becomes very gender worry, and it becomes fuck men. So even when I brought up how men are also victims to sexual assault and violation, it was like, yeah, but fuck them. We don't care about what happens to them. Why hurt people, hurt people. And there's a lot of men that didn't realize they were assaulted until now. Like, we're reaching in a place where men are now opening up about being molested by older women. It's not even just men on men. There's a lot of women. And I told her, I said, every time I look up sex on the news, it's a fucking teacher.

[Jason]

I was gonna say, we've seen a million teachers.

[Mandy B]

Did y' all see the teacher that put the boys semen and cupcakes and fed it to the other students?

[Jason Rodriguez]

That didn't hit my timeline.

[Mandy B]

Wait, y' all didn't see that?

[King Coogler]

That's wild.

[Mandy B]

Y' all didn't see that?

[King Coogler]

No.

[Mandy B]

Hold on. And so literally, hold on. I'm gonna look it up because I wanna make sure I say her name.

[Jason]

Shit. Like, this is why they parents be sending their kids to homeschool. And just being like, fuck the who and all of that.

[Mandy B]

I had a story, Louisiana teacher Cynthia Perkins, sentenced after lacing students cupcakes.

[King Coogler]

Let me see her.

[Mandy B]

With her husband's sperm.

[Jason]

With her husband's sperm.

[King Coogler]

You think she a Democrat or Republican?

[Mandy B]

Definitely a Republican.

[Jason]

Marshall Taylor Greene from over here.

[King Coogler]

Yeah, that's like her little sister. Her half sister.

[Mandy B]

Nigga Swat came to get her. Okay. She was charged with dozens of child sex crimes, I hope. And she also pleaded guilty to second degree grape production of child pornography and conspiracy of mingling of harmful substances. Sheesh, bro. She was 36 years old and she

[Jason]

started a middle school, high school.

[Mandy B]

What type of school was it, by the way? The couple, mind you, this is a man and a woman allegedly graped children between the ages of 9 and 10 as a unit. A child between the ages of 9 and 10 as a Unit.

[Jason]

Oh, yeah, Hurt work, put him in the dirt and then.

[Mandy B]

But this is a teacher, bro. So, like, that's what I'm saying. Like, women are nasty, vile creatures, too. And so let's. My thing is talking about it from, like a lens. That is nuanced, right?

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

And that doesn't just make men all these scary beings.

[Take Five Tech]

The argument.

[Mandy B]

Oh, my God. The way we even were having conversations about how women can't be friends with Men. Because men just only want to fuck every woman that walks by them.

[Jason]

Yeah, that's always been a silly conversation. If you can't have. If you, as a person can't. Don't have the ability to trust your significant other with friends of the opposite sex, then, like, that's. You need to go to therapy. Like, you need to talk. What you say, Go to the lady. Go see the lady.

[Mandy B]

Go see the lady.

[Jason]

You need to go see the lady. You need to go see the lady. Cause, like, something is wrong with you. Something happened to you, and you're scarred in some kind of way that keeps you from having a healthy relationship. So you telling me you cut off everybody you know of the opposite sex because you have a boyfriend or a girlfriend?

[Mandy B]

No, but even. But even women saying that they've never had friends that didn't want to fuck them, Like. And I'm thinking of. I've known you for, I don't know, 14, 15 years now. I've known you for 10 years, Jason. Like. And I'm like. I'm thinking. I was like, I don't think these niggas wanted to fuck me. Like. And then I was like, am I. Maybe I'm hugging.

[King Coogler]

Are we having this conversation right now? We're gentlemen, though.

[Mandy B]

Talk yourself.

[Jason]

That's the thing.

[King Coogler]

We gentlemen.

[Jason]

Well, yeah, if you're a Cam Newton, you have trouble with this, but if you like a civilized person. Yeah. Mandy,

[King Coogler]

every man ain't the same, just like every woman ain't the same.

[Mandy B]

And that's. I'm speaking up for y'. All.

[King Coogler]

It's just a measure of decorum. Right. I don't know if it's our parenting. I don't know if it's the environment. Look, I have family, uncles who, you know, they haven't done anything egregious, but men talk shit.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[King Coogler]

They do it in a way.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[King Coogler]

You know, she bad.

[Mandy B]

It's a little bad.

[King Coogler]

That's what men do. But it's when you talk to a woman, when you're out in the street with a woman, and the. The scary part of it is, is the youth that. That are adapting even worse traits. And then they even filming this shit. Like, we see them when they run up on older women in the store,

[Jason]

and they start saying crazy shit, and

[King Coogler]

it's like, it's one thing to show that I could get an older woman's number, but the. The dialogue that occurs is crazy. Right?

[Mandy B]

But also, then on the flip side,

[King Coogler]

we need a reset.

[Mandy B]

It's like. But if I offered it to him. He would take it. And I was like, do y' all not think men can say no either? Like, it's just. It's mind boggling.

[King Coogler]

I think men say no. Oh, perfect example. The guy who came out of jail, I think, in Dallas or Houston, came home from jail. He was messing with the correction officer, got out, he declined sex. And she pulled up on him and shot him through the car.

[Jason]

Do I saw that?

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[King Coogler]

And he had to disarm her with the wound. Right. And then get her ass arrested.

[Mandy B]

Cause he was like, wait, she shot him? Because he said, no, it's on camera.

[King Coogler]

It's on video.

[Jason]

It's on camera. Like, she came to his house.

[King Coogler]

He was like, yo, chill. We need to have a conversation. And she wasn't trying to hit none of that. And she said, why would you fuck me? Why would you have sex?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Why are you but a king? When he was locked up, it was pound town. Like, he was.

[Jason]

He was.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Got you. But then when he got out, he was like, I'm done.

[King Coogler]

What's happened to our arrangement? And then she pulled up on him and. And when he would decline it, and he was. You could tell. He's like, I'm using.

[Mandy B]

I'm using Jason's line. Yeah, that didn't come across my algorithm.

[King Coogler]

That was crazy. And then she on video. She just pulled out the blixy and blah, blah.

[Jason]

Yeah. I think she was in uniform when she. I think, if I remember, it was a video, right?

[King Coogler]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

Pulling out the blick.

[King Coogler]

The crazy thing about it was he disarmed her. The next video or photo that you saw after was him in the hospital bed all fucked up. And I'm like, damn, yo. He could have been up out of here.

[Jason]

Yep.

[King Coogler]

Cause he declined the dick.

[Mandy B]

He declined the pussy.

[King Coogler]

Well, he declined the. He declined giving her.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Because he set boundaries. He set boundaries.

[Mandy B]

He set boundaries.

[King Coogler]

Now, to your point, I don't. He's probably in his small minority. Niggas would have still ran through, you know what I mean?

[Jason]

Just because most niggas would.

[King Coogler]

He going in jail. Why you want to do that in real life?

[Mandy B]

Because he had some decorum when he got out of jail. Okay.

[King Coogler]

She probably was stressing him out.

[Mandy B]

The pussy probably wasn't that good.

[Jason]

He was probably like, this is like prison pussy. Like, I'm just here, just like, so I don't get fined, you know what I'm saying? But now we back in the real world. I'm cool. Yeah, I'm cool.

[King Coogler]

I don't want all the foolery.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Not I'm just fucking so I don't get fined. I'm just saying.

[Jason]

I'm just saying.

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[Mandy B]

Well, let's start off on a light note, guys. A little bit of music, a little bit of Chatty Patty.

[King Coogler]

Where we at with it?

[Mandy B]

A little bit of Bible study, I guess. Lil Russell recently released a snippet of a song. Now I want to play the snippet.

[Jason]

Worst snippet ever.

[Mandy B]

I think some of y' all have heard this already. Jason, pull that snippet up. I'm going to go ahead and pull up. Y' all know he's been responding to the backlash, but let's go ahead and play this snippet for the audience who may or may not have been living under a rock and haven't heard of it record.

[King Coogler]

And I sent it off to my engineer and he calls me. He said, man, you probably shouldn't put this out. I said, what?

[Mandy B]

What the hell happened?

[King Coogler]

He said, you know you, you talking about Epstein. It's a lot of going on. And I said, thank you for calling me. I'm f to drop this. That's exactly why we need it. Cuz everybody sit and be silent. And the goal of an artist is to express the times and discuss, say all the things that nobody else want or know how to say. I'm not perfect and neither is the president was guiltier than the hiding evidence. You can't be mad that they heated if you don't let them vent. Even the devil was heaven sent.

[Jason]

Here we go.

[King Coogler]

Even Malcolm was heaven sent. Even Martin was heaven sent. Even Kanye was heaven sent. We all heaven sent. Donald 2. We all haven't sent Epstein too. All right, we all haven't sent. Adolph, too.

[Mandy B]

That was crazy.

[King Coogler]

We all haven't sent. I can't wait. Even you. We all haven't sent.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Now that even you, boy.

[Mandy B]

Even you. We all haven't sent. I'm going to read what his final statement was in response to all the backlash he got from this. And then I'd love for us to dissect because I don't know, a kink said he has an interesting take on this one. So he said, good morning, America. This is, by the way, LaRussell from his Twitter account. Good morning, America. This is my final statement on this bullshit. I love that he used our slogan too. The selective outrage and fake righteousness is a joke. It's always us. Y' all been complicit in supporting serial killers, murderers, drug dealers, pimps, and niggas destroying the community for years. But me saying God made me and he also made these sick ass niggas is where the line is drawn. Cut it out. You gonna be outraged. Be outraged about it all. Turn the murder music off and every other detrimental form of art you consume. I'm one of the few niggas in this shit smiling and putting good into the ecosystem. I'm gonna keep saying and doing what I want with my art because I'm a fucking artist. Y' all can keep being fake, outraged and complicit with everything else. Mike drop.

[Jason]

Fuck I to hear?

[Mandy B]

Okay, John, talk to me.

[Jason]

No, I want a king to talk.

[Mandy B]

Go ahead. What were your thoughts on this?

[Jason]

All right, so first thing first. He's talking about. Artist is supposed to reflect the sign of the times and say things that people. Who's scared to say that and what times are you even addressing? Like you said, saying the name Epstein is not addressing the times. What time? What did you even say? You didn't say nothing. You said, we're all made by God. Okay, nigga. And like, what is the land the plane? Like, you put a plane in the air with no wheels and that shit just crashed to the ground. Like, you didn't make a point. Okay, we're all made from God. What is the point? Like, what do you. What fake deep thing is this supposed to be? What message do we take from that? We're supposed to, like, love and respect all of God's children. I do not love and respect all of God's children.

[Mandy B]

Me neither.

[Jason]

I disrespect and detest some of God's children, especially the ones you named in the song. So I don't even understand what we're supposed to take away from that. And also, that's not what heaven sent me. Heaven sent is supposed to be somebody that comes at the perfect time, right on time. When we're in a time of need.

[Mandy B]

And when I tell you Adolf did not.

[Jason]

He did not come in a time of need.

[Mandy B]

He did not. And baby, look at the country. Trump definitely came at the wrong time.

[Jason]

Like, what are we talking? Kendrick Lamar wrote Not like us. And LaRussell wrote, Jeffrey Epstein is just like you. No, the fuck he's not, nigga. Speak for yourself, nigga. Like the fuck.

[Mandy B]

Damn, that is what he did.

[Jason]

No, nigga, what are you. And then you put his name right next to Martin and Malcolm. Oh, God created all of us. What are you talking about? Goofball Raisin Biscuit. Like what?

[Mandy B]

Goofball Raisin Biscuit, bro, you are the most like you be your country be coming out

[King Coogler]

argument with somebody. I'm like, you goofball Raisin Biscuit, you dry ass. Popeye Biscuit Raisin with it.

[Mandy B]

What do I shoot? King?

[King Coogler]

I understand. You understand why people are, you know, upset. However, I don't think. Okay, a couple things he. I'm not. I think we spending too much time on it. I think there's far more things in our community that we should be worried about whether. Than whether or not the Russell used Epstein in his Heaven Ascent diatribe. I think that also that was a portion of a song that probably we won't never hear the. Unfortunately, we won't hear the rest of it because, you know, maybe there was some. Maybe some context would have been provided in the song had we heard the whole thing that was just a portion of it.

[Jason]

Well, no one will probably ever hear the whole thing. Cause Nobody listens to LaRussell's music.

[King Coogler]

Okay, now hold on, hold on. And this is. I'm getting there. I'm glad you said that. I've been listening. I'm a rap fan, so I listen to everything. I fucks with LaRussell.

[Mandy B]

The thing is, what's your favorite song?

[King Coogler]

Now, that's the one thing about. He has 40, I think 42 albums.

[Mandy B]

That's great. What's your favorite song?

[King Coogler]

I don't think there's one song that I identify him with. I just think he's a great writer.

[Mandy B]

What is the favorite.

[King Coogler]

He's a fun rapper.

[Mandy B]

What is the song that's so fun that you like a king?

[King Coogler]

I would have to look at my. I have it in my spot. No, look, honestly. But that's my whole point, right?

[Mandy B]

What's your Point, because you listen.

[King Coogler]

There's a lot of people commenting about 42 albums that never a king.

[Mandy B]

42 albums. Gave me one song.

[Jason]

42 was greasy.

[King Coogler]

No, no.

[Mandy B]

42 albums. You listen to him. Name me what song from LA Russell you like.

[King Coogler]

There's a song he talk. If you want me to pull it up, I have it right here. I have it on. No, you can't.

[Mandy B]

Don't try to spin it on me, Jason.

[Jason]

Here's the thing, Jason.

[Mandy B]

If one of. If an artist that you listen to at 42 hours, nigga Chris Brown.

[King Coogler]

You didn't know that Aubrey was doing episode one, two and three and four, right?

[Mandy B]

What are you talking about?

[King Coogler]

Exactly. Wait, wait, you didn't even know he was putting out episodes?

[Mandy B]

Who?

[King Coogler]

Lawbre.

[Mandy B]

Why are you calling him Lawbreaking?

[King Coogler]

Cause he be suing everybody.

[Jason]

That's what his.

[King Coogler]

That's his thing.

[Jason]

Allegedly. Allegedly.

[Mandy B]

Allegedly.

[Jason]

Allegedly.

[King Coogler]

Don't sue me.

[Mandy B]

I ain't got shit. But guess what? If I sit on this microphone and say, yeah, I listen to Drake, guess what I could do? Name a song that I like especially. Hold on. Drake doesn't have 42 hours.

[King Coogler]

But that doesn't invalidate. That doesn't invalidate. It invalidates my not knowing a la Wrestle record he doesn't have. He puts out so much content, so he doesn't have an identifiable record.

[Mandy B]

Favorite chorus.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So I'm a save a king.

[King Coogler]

He got a record.

[Jason Rodriguez]

When he talking about artists where you can, like, remember one song, like, he, you know, he's still a new. He's still kind of a new artist. He puts out a ton of record. It's kind of like you appreciate the vibe and kind of like the character of who he is, because he's kind of like a bootstrap artist. And I think that's why people are so disappointed, because they feel like this record kind of goes against that.

[Mandy B]

Jason, you didn't help him.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But, but, but I have a question though, for you, Mandy. So we had a section that we. A segment that we still do from time to time called Double down or Take it back.

[Mandy B]

Yes.

[Jason Rodriguez]

He obviously doubled down. You as somebody who gets a lot of attention on social media, I'm sure you have that feeling and moment where you're like, yo, dumb, I'm gonna double down. He did that. What are your. What are your thoughts on him? Because each day he kept doubling down, tripling down, quadrupling down, until he deleted his socials. But what is your take on him? Kind of still, like, the mentality of him to be like, oh, fuck y'.

[King Coogler]

All.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Y' all don't get my art. I'm still doubling down.

[Mandy B]

Doubling down, Double down. Here's the thing. You know who else doubled down and tripled down? And it was suicide. Career Dababy at a time where he was still fairly new. If we're talking about an artist that's fairly new, this is also an artist that 42 albums in just on. Hold on.

[King Coogler]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. They're not albums in the same context as our favorite artists.

[Mandy B]

EPS, whatever.

[King Coogler]

It's 42 bodies of work. There you go.

[Mandy B]

Where'd Jason go?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Uh.

[Mandy B]

Oh, okay. It also just comes to a place where you just signed a major deal. You're now with ROC Nation. You're doubling down on a thing to where essentially, yeah, you are saying that we are like Adolf and Epstein and sinners and all these things. And so for me, as an artist, this is career suicide, where you're finally probably. You're opening yourself up to more audiences that knew you before these 42 albums, and this is what you give us. So for me, no, to me, I doubled down. Cause, nigga, I've been doing this shit for 10 years, like you, as a new artist, essentially, because y' all just gave him the kind of this. He's new. He's a bootstrap guy, you know, he's pulling himself up for me. This is not the way you go about your art. What?

[King Coogler]

Art is subjective, man. So all heaven sent human beings weren't made perfect. They say we made in God's image, right? And we. What they say? I can't remember the parable. But we're not perfect beings, right?

[Mandy B]

We're not in hindsight, though.

[King Coogler]

We're not perfect in hindsight.

[Mandy B]

I wanna ask the three of y', all, do y' all think if hindsight was 2020 and DaBaby knew what him doubling down on the HIV things and things that he said at Rolling Loud, in hindsight, do you think he doubles down on that today, knowing what the outcome was for his career?

[Jason]

No, him, probably not.

[King Coogler]

Of course not. I think it's a different thing, though.

[Mandy B]

Why?

[King Coogler]

What he did, this dude, all he said was, we all heaven sent. Yes. He named figures that we don't fuck with, but he didn't say that he supports them and he didn't say that, you know, But I'm talking about the

[Mandy B]

outrage, the responses to the outrage. If you see that people are responding this way to something you said, you pull it back. Like, who was it? I don't think it was even Glorilla, didn't she say something in a record? It was like the R word or something to where people were like, ooh. And she literally saw the outrage and flipped the lyric.

[Jason]

Because I think Meg did the same thing about something about, like, she said some lyric about spaz out and people on her about ableism and things like that, and she was like, okay, cool, I'm out.

[Mandy B]

And so if you were an artist, cool art is subjective. But if you're on a growth trajectory, why double down on some shit that you see is pissing all these motherfuckers off?

[Jason]

Well, the other problem is, is that a. Like, he could have. Instead of doubling down, he could have listened and been twice as smart. Like, hear what people are saying and take it for what it's worth. To me, this isn't a hill worth dying on.

[Mandy B]

It's not.

[Jason]

Because you didn't even really make a substantive point like that.

[Mandy B]

Agreed.

[Jason]

So it's like, if this is something that really meant something to you that was really strong and it really was important to you to get this message out, okay, fine, you gotta take what comes with it. But to double, triple, quadruple down, and

[Mandy B]

then delete your page.

[Jason]

And then delete your page. Like, you can't even. Yeah, you were standing on business until somebody kicked the chair out from under you. And now you're just like. Like, you know how in Looney Tunes, how you'll, like, Dassy Duck might walk up to, like, a landmine and it be labeled landmine, and you step on it anyway, and he blows up, and then he's standing there without a beak and just eyes like, that's what La Russell look like right now.

[King Coogler]

Ooh, I wish he would have. He should have hollered at Glasses Malone and how to intercourse. Intercourse, wow. Interact.

[Jason]

How to interact with Glasses on.

[Mandy B]

How to intercourse. Wrong.

[King Coogler]

How to interact with people with discourse. Cause Glasses still commenting on shit that happened five months ago. Yeah. And I think. Think, oh, GT Coupe was the name of the song, by the way. That was one of the records. And it was an album called. No, it's not the.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Y', all.

[Mandy B]

This. Got the 42 albums pulled up on his laptop right now.

[King Coogler]

Nah, nah, this is some but. And the album that I was listening to was A Party on the west side.

[Mandy B]

Oh, yeah.

[King Coogler]

Okay.

[Mandy B]

That been Googling while you was talking about.

[Jason]

I like LaRussell as, like, a concept, right? At first, he can rap. When I first first heard of LaRussell, I was like, oh, this dude is pretty good. Like, he can rap. And I liked what he built for himself. The good company. I think all of the stuff that he did as a business is dope. The original music I'm not really big on, I don't really care about. But generally, I think what he's done is a good thing. I mean, it took him very, very. You just did the super bowl and no one knows your songs. Like, that's. That's pretty crazy. That's a. That's an amazing thing. Yeah, but this just.

[Mandy B]

He was at the Super Bowl.

[Jason]

Yeah, yeah, he did the pre show.

[King Coogler]

The pre show, yeah.

[Mandy B]

Oh, I didn't watch that.

[Jason]

I mean.

[King Coogler]

Cause you was in your Puerto Rican Dominican bag.

[Mandy B]

Oh, my God.

[King Coogler]

Trying to hit on niggas. She wasn't trying to hit no nigga from the West Coast.

[Mandy B]

You know,

[King Coogler]

she was. Still got the lingering effect from Mr. Duckworth.

[Mandy B]

You done? You done. You know what? Fine. Let's get into the hip hop bag that y' all love. Yeah, yeah. Look, you excited. You want to go ahead and introduce this?

[King Coogler]

Cause you know why? Cause she gonna be right up there with all of us listening. Can I live? She gonn doing all that shit.

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy?

[King Coogler]

We gonna be right there. We gonna be right there, y'.

[Mandy B]

All. In the past week, Jay Z did two announcements. One, him being the headliner for Ruth's Picnic.

[King Coogler]

Yep.

[Mandy B]

And then just a couple days later, he announced two shows in July at Yankee Stadium. One show being the Reasonable Doubt, which is this is the 30 year anniversary of that album. And then the Blueprint, which happens to be the 25 year anniversary for that

[King Coogler]

album, dropped on 9 11.

[Mandy B]

And boy, is the Internet happy. So excited. You know, talking about both projects, I guess. How excited are y'? All? I didn't share in this excitement, guys, but would you.

[King Coogler]

Did you listen to Jay Z's music?

[Mandy B]

So let me tell you, she probably

[King Coogler]

listened to more LA Russell than Jay Z.

[Mandy B]

So I did attend a Jay Z concert before.

[Jason]

Which album?

[Mandy B]

Around which it was. I don't know. All of them, I think the. Okay, so look up the tour, Jason. It was Trey Songz and Jeezy that opened up for him.

[Jason]

That was probably Blueprint three.

[Mandy B]

Three.

[Jason]

I was gonna say that.

[King Coogler]

Oh, okay.

[Jason]

That was probably Blueprint three, if I had to guess.

[Mandy B]

So mind you, this is 2009 or2010.

[Jason]

Yeah, 9. 10, something like that.

[King Coogler]

090 10. You purchased the ticket.

[Mandy B]

You ready? So I was working the suites.

[King Coogler]

Oh.

[Mandy B]

At Phillips Arena. And I happen to be doing the suite for. This was the year that the Saints won The Super Bowl. I'm in the. The suite with the Saints or whatever Atlanta got. No, mind you, this is. This is back when n. They got the. They got the roast beef. I'm cutting it for, like, I'm. I'm just a regular girl. Just a regular girl. But ended up, like, setting up their suite real early, and I could not wait for the neighbors know my name. And so Trey's songs. I was so excited to hear him yodel on stage. And then after that came Jeezy. Are you kidding me?

[Jason]

Good time.

[Mandy B]

Oh, my God. And so I'm like, living my best life. And then I'm like, okay, job's done. I guess I'll stay for hope. And he had no dancers? No, he had no nothing. It was just him out. I remember, in his baggy jeans and Timberland boots. And he comes out on the stage, and he did demand the stage, I'll say that. And so, yes, at the end, I was like, hobe h to the OV

[Jason Rodriguez]

for the audio people. She's throwing up the diamond.

[King Coogler]

You could just die right there.

[Jason]

That sounded very. Yay, sports.

[King Coogler]

Yay, sports. As somebody who spent a lot of time in New York, how many years

[Mandy B]

you been in New York? First off, Jay Z stopped making music when I moved to New York.

[King Coogler]

No, but the music stayed, though. I mean, the music was there.

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy? They played more 50 cent and Ja rule in the club than Jay Z. Jay Z doesn't get spins in the strip club or the club. Club.

[Jason]

Interesting.

[Mandy B]

If we're talking about from a hip hop lens, yes, Jay Z is goat, but from an entertainment scope and where you actually hear his music based on

[Jason Rodriguez]

your age, I think we should add I'm a millennial.

[Jason]

That's fair.

[Mandy B]

Where are y' all going? To 35 and up, like, spots. Where are y' all hearing Jay Z?

[King Coogler]

I think there's kids that rock. Michael Jordan sneakers. Yeah, there's kids that know his music. It's not to the capacity.

[Mandy B]

Where is it being played?

[Jason]

You never went nowhere where they played, like, give it to me.

[Mandy B]

By the way, I love change clothes. I wish I heard change clothes when I was younger.

[Jason]

But you never been nowhere to party where the whole crowd says, and I wish I never met her at like. That was never an experience for you.

[Mandy B]

Oh, wait, that's Jay Z. Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, come on.

[Jason]

What is going on?

[Mandy B]

Okay, that one song. Yes. Yeah, give me another song they play in the club from Jay Z.

[Jason]

Another Jay Z song you would hear in the club. Well, you probably Wouldn't hear Big Pimping.

[Mandy B]

No, you wouldn't hear Big Pimping. Now you don't hear a clip.

[King Coogler]

Excuse me, miss.

[Jason]

Definitely hear Excuse me, miss.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Excuse me, miss. And the remix.

[King Coogler]

Yeah, and the remix. Maybe on the letter Empire State of Mind. Niggas in Paris.

[Mandy B]

N. In Paris. Yes.

[King Coogler]

Run the town, Run this town.

[Mandy B]

That's Kanye, though.

[King Coogler]

No, that's both of you.

[Mandy B]

No, that's Jay Z. I get that. But even when that was being played, was Kanye at a high peak where Kanye records were getting played? Every other song in the club, Umbrella.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Jay Z, too.

[Mandy B]

You know, we not hearing fucking Umbrella in the club.

[Jason]

You might hear La La La, Crazy in Love. Like, you might hear that we're not

[Mandy B]

hearing Jay Z's even part of these songs.

[King Coogler]

Jay Z is part of Crazy in Love.

[Mandy B]

He is. But, bro, that's Beyonce's first single. What are we talking about right now?

[King Coogler]

Bonnie and Clyde. 03. Bonnie and Clyde. Drunken love, Drunk in love.

[Jason]

You're for sure gonna hear Otis.

[King Coogler]

Yeah.

[Jason]

Otis.

[King Coogler]

Monster.

[Mandy B]

These songs were getting played at my high school dances.

[King Coogler]

Never had fronting.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Damn, I love fronting. Oh, good one.

[King Coogler]

Suit and tie.

[Mandy B]

That's for real.

[King Coogler]

You're like, suit and tie.

[Mandy B]

I get this. Okay.

[Jason]

That's a sign.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yo, Josh, I have a question for you. Cause y', all, I know you like threads, and you be spending your time on threads. This is a thread come to life. I see this thread. I see this on threads all the time. Where people will be like, jay Z's not even that. And underneath, people are like, yo, who is this person?

[Jason]

Yeah, this is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

This is threads come to life right here.

[Jason]

No, there's definitely a revisionist history happening collectively everywhere.

[King Coogler]

Somebody worried about the Republican Party changing the fucking books. We cooking the books.

[Jason]

Yeah, there's a portion of the Zeitgeist. There's a portion of the Zeitgeist that has redefined, like, what type of artist Jay Z is and who he is and what his contribution to this thing is. And it's weird. I don't get how it started, but there is this recurring theme that, like, oh, Jay Z, he's not even in my top 10 rappers of all time, so I wouldn't say so.

[King Coogler]

Never heard big Pimping.

[Mandy B]

Of course I've heard big. But I also guess. And this is where geographic upbringing matters. And age demo, right?

[King Coogler]

Okay.

[Mandy B]

So I'm a 1990s baby, right, who grew up in Florida.

[Jason]

Florida woman.

[Mandy B]

And so in terms of rap and when I got to rap, because also as a millennial, I was Spice girls, Backstreet Boys, NSync. I grew up in the boy band either Pops. And then when I got older, got into R and B and hip hop more.

[Jason]

Okay.

[Mandy B]

And so even through that, though, it was Trick Daddy, it was Wayne, it was. I mean, Shout Out, Pastor Troy, it was Outkast, it was Ludacris, TI TI gz, Gucci. And so even when I moved up to New York, being cool with Jim Jada, I was just cool with these. I didn't even know these niggas was as big as they were. Like, these were just homies that I

[Jason]

ended up with people that I know.

[Mandy B]

I know them, I hang out with them. And, like, I remember my homegirl pulling up on one of Jim's sets. She was like, is she a bitch from Harlem? I didn't.

[Jason]

Oh, she was losing her mind.

[Mandy B]

Oh, my God.

[King Coogler]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

And so I didn't even realize that Dipset was that big of a thing, because even for me, all of us just thought Juels was fine. I'm 18 and live a crazy life and know what the ladies like.

[Jason]

Some local rappers, maybe.

[Mandy B]

Ma, what's your age and type? She looked at me and said, you a baby, right? Like, to me, it was this nigga wears pink fur, and Joelles is fine and ballin'. That's all I knew about Dipset growing up. So, like, the up north, like, how people talk about geographical hip hop, Jay Z didn't trickle down to me.

[Jason]

Okay?

[King Coogler]

I would say Mandy B.

[Mandy B]

Shut up.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't know if she's having scent, right? I don't know if she's having scent.

[King Coogler]

Her playlist wasn't.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Playlist was not heaven sent.

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[King Coogler]

I would say though. I mean we all have access to streaming. Go back and listen some Jay Z.

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[Mandy B]

Essentials I love change clothes and front y'. All.

[King Coogler]

So you like Jay Z?

[Mandy B]

Do I like Jay Z? Enough to pay $876 for a ticket.

[King Coogler]

Somehow she's gonna be right in one of them suites and we gonna hopefully.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no. Let's be very clear. Hey guys. Hey guys. Hey guys. Y' all have got to stop hitting my phone. I don't have tickets for you for Ruth's Picnic or for the Yankee Stadium.

[Jason]

That's the funniest part four.

[Mandy B]

People like, yeah, so you. I ain't got you. I'm not getting you backstage. Do not hit me for tickets. If I get tickets, it will be for myself. And that is it.

[Jason]

The day they made the announcement, all of the. My Instagram, you know, the Instagram, like, the little, like, status updates or whatever I just swiped, there was like, maybe 10 in a row that was like, either I don't work for Roc Nation, I can't get you tickets. Nope, sorry. No. Jay Z tickets don't hit my phone. Like, the whole timeline was like, yeah, can't do it.

[King Coogler]

I got a video. Video recording in my text message yesterday. I won't say from who.

[Jason]

Okay.

[King Coogler]

And they're showing the ticket prices.

[Jason]

And.

[King Coogler]

And they said, because we both hip hop fans, I know we going, like, I didn't acknowledge. I was like, this is crazy. I never even looked at the prices.

[Mandy B]

Wait, wait, wait. Did they think that you were gonna buy the.

[King Coogler]

They thought that. I don't know what they think.

[Mandy B]

They thought wrong.

[King Coogler]

I'm just like. I didn't even examine that part of it yet, but I do want to go.

[Mandy B]

So real quick, the three of y' all want to go for sure. Yeah.

[Jason]

I've already finagled my way into the Roots Picnic. I have.

[King Coogler]

Hey, Hi. Roots Picnic.

[Mandy B]

Look, I hit up wizzy like you want to do, man, on the street. Let's put it on the business.

[Jason]

Yeah, yeah.

[King Coogler]

Trying to get to the Roots Picnic, too, so. Roots Picnic. People are watching this or listening to this. You know, this is a Roots Picnic friendly.

[Mandy B]

Stop it. Stop it. Don't make us look like peasants. We don't have to act like this.

[King Coogler]

All right, fine, fine.

[Mandy B]

We will be there.

[King Coogler]

All right, all right.

[Mandy B]

Like, just don't. No plus ones. Like, nigga, we gonna get in there, man. No plus ones. By the way, then I wanna ask y', all, as Hip Hop heads, Blueprint or Reasonable Doubt, if y' all could choose one night at Yankee Stadium, which one is it? What are Yalls thoughts, too, on him separating the nights this way?

[Jason]

For me, it's Reasonable Doubt, but not by, like, a whole, whole lot.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Jason]

But Reasonable Doubt is why I love Jay Z. Like, it.

[King Coogler]

It.

[Dan Morgan]

Yeah.

[Jason]

That album opened my eyes up to, like, oh, can rap like this? Can have this type of flow that's like. It almost sound like he wasn't. It happened. It happened to rhyme. It was not like he was trying to rhyme. He was just saying what he wanted to say. And it just sounded fly. So for me, Reasonable Doubt is the one that I have to see. Just for my like, yeah, 15 year old self. I just had to see that album.

[Mandy B]

Y' all agree?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Jason? Jason. Jolly Heaven sent.

[Mandy B]

Wait, Jason, do you agree with that? What? What?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, I do. I saw, I saw Complex did a post where they said blueprint was better. Editor 2. I think, like, I could see why people would do that. And like their, their chief, their Editor in chief or Chief Content Officer Noah Callahan Bever. We've had this conversation a lot throughout the years. Like, yeah, like, you know, blueprint is, it's like, it's the polish and it's the mastery and it's like kind of like Jay Z at its peak. But I think the, the, the, like the rawness of Jay Z and the entry of it with Reasonable Doubt, I, I think that leaves people. I mean, it just has much more excitement, I think, for me. And kind of like what he can do with those songs and freestyles. And I would, I would pick Reasonable Doubt over the Blueprint show. Not that like one album is so much better than the other, but it's just a matter of like, do you want peak and mastery or like rawness and, and kind of like still having that aggression?

[Mandy B]

So it's giving. Just go to Ruth's picnic to get both. Huh.

[Jason]

Well, so that's the other part though. Is he going to spoil that for that? Like the Roots picnic? I don't think we're gonna get.

[Mandy B]

What do you think you get at Roots?

[King Coogler]

I think he's gonna get new music. I think he gonna get a new verse.

[Jason]

Oh, really?

[King Coogler]

I think he's gonna go. I think he gonna dig into his early bag what we used to seeing when he was outside like that, where he'll give us a teaser of what's to come. And in between a set, you might hear him drop a little. Eight, 16.

[Jason]

Oh, it's definitely getting a tip.

[King Coogler]

Cause if I'm Jay, I got vitriol for so many people right now.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[King Coogler]

If I'm just writing on the scorecard, like, yeah, I got something for you.

[Jason]

You, you, you, you, you, you and

[King Coogler]

your boy in Toronto too, actually.

[Mandy B]

Festival lens.

[King Coogler]

This is my prediction.

[Mandy B]

Otis N. Paris, you get those.

[Jason]

I think you get those type of picks.

[King Coogler]

Reasonable Doubt. I miss When Jay Nas reconciled. Seen the video. But I do think there's a window of possibility that when Dead Presidents come on. Cause he uses Nas voice, that we see Nas for that, for that moment. Cause they're good now.

[Mandy B]

So you think Nas is Gonna come out at Roots?

[King Coogler]

No, no, no. At the Yankee Stadium.

[Mandy B]

Stadium.

[King Coogler]

Yeah. I believe that my guy, Free speech. He put up a poll on his Instagram. He said he believes that ye is gonna come out. And I said, well, ye dissed this man's kids and told him he was the R. They was the R word.

[Jason]

Yeah. And he said.

[King Coogler]

He said, the best apologies are made out behind closed doors. And I get that, but I think he's crossed that line already. I don't know if you could have.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, culturally, I don't know. You might have sold me. You think Nas coming. That's like just a moment that I would like to be like as a moment in hip hop. That would be the. And so then I could tell my friend's kids I was there.

[King Coogler]

And I think that that's.

[Mandy B]

You know what I mean?

[King Coogler]

I think we'll get that before we get a yay. You know what I'm saying?

[Jason]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[King Coogler]

But then on the flip side, the Blueprint album, I think they like it. I don't think they do, but I do think we get some kind of ensemble of the producers who produce Blueprint. One that come out with them maybe. Damn, I forgot Justin.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[King Coogler]

That might not happen. Yeah. You talking about just Blaze. Just Blaze him and Bink. Well, just Bink. Kanye.

[Mandy B]

Kanye.

[King Coogler]

Those are the primary, but just those are the three. They don't rock with each other like that. And. Yeah, so, yeah, we might not get that either. I don't know. Jay Z, he's not doing this for no reason.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[King Coogler]

No, I think new music is on the way.

[Mandy B]

Nah, he's doing this because Beyonce said, now you get to work. Nah, fuck that. Beyonce was like, you see all this shit I done did? It's time for you to hit the stage, nigga. Let them be reminded that you not just this billionaire, you are hit like you this musician.

[Jason]

Well, I will say this.

[King Coogler]

That's facts.

[Jason]

The. I forget. I don't know if it was here or if it was in Texas. I forget what city he was in. But when she brought him out to do Niggas in Paris, I hadn't heard. Huh. It was here, right? I hadn't heard an eruption like that for Jay Z in a long time.

[King Coogler]

It felt good, man.

[Jason]

It felt like he was a brand new artist with a brand new hit record that people were hyped to hear. And I was like, damn, okay. Cause I would have been acting like that, but I wasn't sure that a Beyonce.

[King Coogler]

Can I get.

[Mandy B]

How would you have act? How Would you. Would you have.

[Jason]

No, I would have.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no, no. Do it.

[Jason]

No.

[Mandy B]

Do it. Oh, my God.

[Jason]

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[King Coogler]

Without the. Oh, my God, that's crazy.

[Mandy B]

Wait, how do men erupt in excitement at concerts? Like, Yeah, I think.

[King Coogler]

Yeah, I think.

[Mandy B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Jason]

You know what? That's a good.

[King Coogler]

And then the homies, like, yo, yo.

[Jason]

That's how they acted at the Clips concert when the. In la, when they brought Kendrick out. And all you heard. If you watch any of the videos, all you heard was, oh, shit.

[King Coogler]

Because it's the. It's the. It's the clue. Like, there's no clues. You just. You just figure, oh, nobody's pulling up. And then that part.

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy?

[King Coogler]

After Malice goes, they do the hook. They hook you thinking it's gonna.

[Jason]

In la.

[King Coogler]

And then Kendra comes out in middle of a tour.

[Jason]

Yeah, they were still doing Gen X,

[King Coogler]

and it's like, oh, shit. And the album just came out, the Eclipse album. So I will say then, I love it.

[Mandy B]

Going to concerts in New York spoils you, because people go to concerts like, so who do you think they're bringing out all the time?

[Jason]

Someone always coming out New York.

[King Coogler]

So it's like, you're gonna do the big shit. He's gonna do the big thing.

[Jason]

Well, that's the thing. I think we're gonna. In this run, I think we're gonna see things that we've never seen before. Cause it's like you've done a million shows, you've done these songs a million times. You have to add something fresh to it. So I do. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Nas.

[King Coogler]

Nas. When Dead Presidents come out, I'm out for dead president. Nas is coming on that stage.

[Jason]

That wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Mandy B]

Hey, y' all clip this if he's wrong just because. Yeah, that's your prediction.

[King Coogler]

I'm wearing the Nazi.

[Jason]

I'm wearing the Nazi.

[Mandy B]

All right, well, I want to get into some more New York discussion.

[Jason]

Hip hop New York.

[Mandy B]

We have Mason, Cameron, Harlem, kind of versus alongside Shine versus Ray J and Brandi on their podcast.

[King Coogler]

Wait, are we gonna play all the clips?

[Mandy B]

What? All the clips? We don't have to play all the clips, Cam.

[King Coogler]

And then.

[Mandy B]

Okay, do you wanna actually summarize what happened on a It Is what It Is podcast?

[King Coogler]

Shout out to the Is what It Is pod. Shawn was a guest, and Cameron asked Mace and Sean about a woman who they have dated around the same time or at the same time. And they spoke on It. And it was brand new from. From the clips that I saw from. From that part.

[Mandy B]

Was it done tastefully?

[King Coogler]

I don't think it was done in

[Jason Rodriguez]

bad taste, but also a king. The start of it was. It was in the documentary. And so the honorable Shine documentary. Shine had talked about it, I think, in the documentary. It was tastefully kind of the wrong word, but it wasn't messy in the documentary. And so then Cam. That was literally the first question that Cam asked in their sit down, because they're both there, right there. So Cam jumped right into it, and he got a little messy with it.

[King Coogler]

Yeah, Cam always gonna add some. Some hot sauce. Cam is messy, but you know what I mean? He's gonna add elements. But they kept it clean. And then Ray J. Ray J did

[Mandy B]

not keep it clean.

[King Coogler]

Ray J went on stream like, yeah, nigga on Piru. If you talk about my sister, keep going. You better not wear no dress around me. I'm gonna poke you in the booty. He was doing that shit. And. And he went on and on. I won't repeat.

[Mandy B]

He pretty much threatened to scrape. Yeah.

[King Coogler]

Jesus Christ.

[Mandy B]

It was bad.

[King Coogler]

It was a Booty Wounds remix. Yeah, yeah. Listen, leave Ray J alone at this point. Yeah.

[Jason]

He got other things to be worried about. This is not the one for him to even be.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, he need to be worried about his heart.

[Jason]

Yeah, take care of yourself, bro.

[Mandy B]

He needs to take care of his health.

[King Coogler]

So one of the responses that we saw was they put up on it is what. What it is? Instagram. They posted an old clip of Ray J getting punched in the mouth. Yeah. In front of a venue and shit. And they just playing. And I'm like, he got the right one. Cause they with the shits, too.

[Mandy B]

They are with the shits now. However, Brandi did insert herself as well and say that she does not align at all with what Ray J is saying and wants to distance herself from him. She also said, shine lying on a dick.

[Jason]

Ooh.

[Mandy B]

Brandi said, me and that boy was friends. It was playtonic and playtime, playtime, playtime. I don't know what that man talking about. So I did want to play this clip, however, because Cheyne responded to Brandi and he decided to say this. Play that dance.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yes. And this is after Brandi had made a post on Instagram trying to clear it up, but also promoting her memoir at the same time. And then this is Shine replying right here.

[Mandy B]

You took it the wrong way at all. Your relationship.

[King Coogler]

No, she's lying. Everything that. Well, listen. Everything that I Said is a hundred percent true. In fact, in my Hulu documentary, I never mentioned her name. Name. This is where this started. The. The late great Clark Kent mentioned her name. And he said it like everybody knows that. That's a matter of historical fact. And if you look at the. If you look at the interview, Mason, I. Mace has different opinions. Like, he's very hard line. He's very extreme. I'm a bit more compassionate, a bit, you know, middle ground. So Mace and I weren't agreeing on everything thing. Right. So if.

[Mandy B]

Right.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You were just telling your side.

[Mandy B]

Telling his side.

[King Coogler]

No, but we agreed on that.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[King Coogler]

So. And if. If I was capping Mace, it would have. He would have said. Because he heard it too. I don't remember.

[Mandy B]

I. I have kind of a. Okay, I have a hot take.

[Jason]

Okay.

[King Coogler]

This is awful.

[Mandy B]

Cause Brandi didn't deny Mace. It's given. She deleted that body. Cause it wasn't good. Like, if we're talking about how women respond, there's niggas that, yeah, I know I laid with him, but I don't

[Jason]

want y' all talking about it.

[Mandy B]

And if it comes out in public, you're lying.

[Jason]

Deny, deny, deny.

[Mandy B]

You are lying on your dick. It never happened. But we only do that to niggas with bad dick or ones that we are embarrassed by or ones that.

[Jason]

I've heard women say that before, bro.

[Mandy B]

If it wasn't good, we gonna say you lying.

[King Coogler]

You gotta own that body, though.

[Mandy B]

Who got. She gotta own the body of the

[King Coogler]

one she ran over back then? At that point in Sean's career, he was top dog. He was one of the top. One of the ones that everybody was.

[Mandy B]

He looked good. He had a very short lived career and then went to jail. Like, he was not one of them. He was an up and coming. He was LA Russell.

[King Coogler]

No, he was.

[Mandy B]

He was on the up and coming.

[King Coogler]

But he had. He had, he had. No, he. No, no, no.

[Mandy B]

He had a hit.

[King Coogler]

Sean had. He was outside.

[Mandy B]

He was hanging with the biggest party promoter Diddy in New York.

[King Coogler]

And he also was a street. He was. He was a street guy too. Don't forget that part. For sure. He's from Brooklyn. He's from a street guy. So I think that time I could see it. She probably was. She fell in love with the allure of what all that looks like. And there was a moment. That's it.

[Jason]

Who was more likely to be lying about. Somebody is lying.

[Mandy B]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Jason]

So, like, who is more likely to be lying about this Situation.

[Mandy B]

Women at a certain esteem being linked to certain men, that they feel like they are above or that it was a mistake in time. I actually feel like Brandi's lying here.

[King Coogler]

Mandy Mace was outside, too. You used to hear wild stories about Mace for years.

[Mandy B]

But you know what's crazy? She didn't denounce both of them, right?

[Jason]

Yeah, it was just about Shine, one of them. Well, the thing that's interesting with the Shine thing is that he wasn't like. They weren't even talking. Like, he said he was more middle of the road. He was just saying we dated. So I'm like, It didn't even imply anything nefarious. So why would he lie about them dating? To me, it's just weird.

[Mandy B]

It's also the D word. Dating is different for different people.

[Jason]

Well, yeah.

[Mandy B]

Cause me, it was a little bit more casual for her. And he said dating. Cause there's guys that have used the D word with me before, and I was like, nigga, we was not dating.

[King Coogler]

How do you.

[Jason]

I guess I've never misunderstood, though, like, a situation with a woman about whether or not we were dating. To me, it's never been confusion about whether I was actually dating somebody or whether we were just friends hanging out a lot. So I don't understand how you even have a misunderstanding about that.

[Mandy B]

Because it could be. Hear me out. And this is now me going the opposite way of not saying that Brandi's lying. If he was pursuing her romantically and she was just kicking it. Oh, you inviting me to the club? I'm gonna go to the club with you. Oh, you wanna take me to eat? I'm hungry, but I'm not really.

[Jason]

But how much time you not being

[Mandy B]

talked about amongst my friends? I'm not, like. I'm not engaging with you in that.

[Jason]

How many times would that happen, though, before you be like. Cause obviously the N is gonna press you. Not necessarily even on sex, but just he's gonna be saying romantic things to you. He's gonna be letting you know I'm interested in you beyond friends. So how many times do you go kick it with a nigga who you don't like, who you know for a fact likes you, and you just keep that thing going for months and years.

[Mandy B]

Y' all said he's a street nigga. These niggas ain't opening up with their emotions, saying that they wanna, like, do romantic shit. Like, he's like, yo, I'm at the club with Diddy tonight. Pull up on us. Like how men talk. Like they could be interested in you and literally just inviting you to be around.

[King Coogler]

I don't think it's true.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Hold on. So I got a question. I got one question for Ja, one question for Mandy. Okay, Ja, you first. When Shine says we dated, characterize what you think he means by that.

[Jason]

When I hear him say we dated, and maybe this is me giving him bum bail, Right? But like, bum bail, that's a great term. I think of it as like, we went to dinners together. We talked on the phone a lot. We got to know one another in a romantic way. Even if we didn't have sex or even if we were having sex, we were talking to each other on a regular basis, hanging out a lot. And I was saying things to you even if it's not, baby, I wanna buy you flowers and change your life. He was expressing his interest in her romantically and vice versa. That's how I take it when he says we were dating.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Now, Mandy, you gave part of it. You said the erasing of body. But. But when Brandi says we had a, quote, platonic friendship, what is she meaning by that?

[Mandy B]

You know what this reminds me of? Shout out to 85 south and you gon laugh.

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[Mandy B]

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[Jason]

That nigga loves emojis, bro.

[King Coogler]

And so who said it?

[Mandy B]

Jack Thriller said that he dated me.

[King Coogler]

Jack Thriller dated everybody.

[Mandy B]

But men have this idea that's a very thirsty.

[Jason]

Yeah, that's a very thirsty.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But from a woman's perspective, from Brandi perspective as a woman, what does she mean?

[Mandy B]

And this is clout chasey of him to do. But there are men that will say that they dated you because you gave them a little bit of attention. Me eating food with you. Like, it's funny because it's why I say especially in this industry. Right?

[King Coogler]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Because also at the time, they're both celebrities.

[Jason]

Sure. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

I was hanging out. Like, it's why, like, there's certain people that'll invite me out. Nigga, I'm bringing my laptop so that it's not confused. So that this is a work meeting. This is not a date like

[Jason]

court.

[King Coogler]

No, there would be no pussy, bro.

[Mandy B]

Like, let me bring out my iPad, Let me pull up the calendar.

[King Coogler]

Do you think he and people like him do that to give the allure that something else may have happened? But they'll let you have the theater to mind moment rather than clarifying? Cause you don't have to Say, no shit like that. If I was one of them and they said, I'd be like, that's the homie. That's it. We ain't got no.

[Mandy B]

However, there's an ego. The double down is also like, Brandi is who Brandi is, but also as Shine, he feels like he is who he is. So you not gon make me look like I'm a. Like I'm a. I'm not a clown. You know what I mean? So to me, I mean, I get both sides. For her to respond, denounce it, and include the promotion of her memoir at the same time, it gives.

[King Coogler]

She might have to add a new chapter to that shit.

[Jason]

Yo, here you go for the bonus. The deluxe sucks.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. Now, I'm not gonna lie. Do y' all think. Do y' all think Mace or Shine is mentioned in the memoir?

[King Coogler]

I mean, how significant is. Were those relationships for her to even do it right? I think she would talk about more how she came up and the family dynamics and.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But she has to do Mace. They had the record together. Like, it's all out there. She has to put, like, the final word.

[Jason]

If either one of them was gonna come up, I'd say Mace.

[King Coogler]

Okay, well, let's get with Moesha, you know.

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[Mandy B]

Let's get into women asking for the things that they want and actually getting it. This is not a sports podcast, but we talked about the WNBA possibly entering a lockout because they could not come to terms with the CBA agreement. However, per Shams, y' all know I love me some Shams.

[Jason]

Shams be keeping it real.

[Mandy B]

Shams came out and said that the WNBA got the big pay raise they were asking for. So here are the details with what's happening with the wnba. So we're gonna start with salary cap. Salary cap under the previous CBA was only $1.5 million. Under the new one it went all the way to Now I'm not gonna lie, these numbers are way more than I thought. Like they were gonna be able to negotiate this soon Supermax deal. As we know, we talk about the NBA players that are out here getting the big bucks. A supermax in the WNBA under the previous CBA was only 249k.

[Jason]

Cool.

[Mandy B]

Same salary as the president. That now went up to 1.4 million. Average salary of a WNBA player previously was only 120,000. Average salary will now look like 600,000. The minimum salary. This is crazy. Of a WNBA player under the previous CBA was only $66,000. I don't know if y' all know you can make more as a manager at Foot Locker.

[Jason]

Yeah. But you can make Subway sandwiches and probably. And probably hit 66 somewhere.

[Mandy B]

I think that might be $25 an hour. At 40, like, you know, the minimum salary went from 66k to 300,000.

[Jason]

Ballin'.

[Mandy B]

Insert a round of applause here. The ladies did what the ladies needed to do.

[Jason]

Get your money.

[Mandy B]

If they wanted to, they would. And if you ask for it, they could.

[King Coogler]

So, and y' all just to add too. This term takes place the next. The upcoming season, right through 20, I think for seven years. So 20. 2032. So I think that before we get to 2032, they're gonna renegotiate the current CBA because it's gonna be more elevation, right?

[Jason]

That was gonna be my question. Seven years is like. That's seven years, right? Yeah, seven years. That scene. I wonder did is that where they had to compromise with the length of time? For the length of time, like, okay, we'll give you this, but we not doing it this again for damn near decade. Every three or four years we gonna have to sit on this. This is gonna be the case. But to your point. Oh, yeah, sure, that sounds good. But if the trajectory going on, what is going on, and it gets really,

[King Coogler]

really popping, like in year five, we gonna get the rumor. Yeah, we think that the WNBA gonna have a strike 2032.

[Jason]

Yep, yep.

[Mandy B]

By the way, what this means too, for fans who've been rocking with the WNBA. So. So I was talking to my DJ here. She actually DJs for the Atlanta Dream.

[King Coogler]

Okay.

[Mandy B]

And they currently have games out of an arena that only seats like, I don't know, 8,000 to 10,000 down the south side. But you could get season tickets for like eight grand a month. I mean, eight grand for the season.

[Jason]

For the season.

[King Coogler]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

That is now 22,000, I was about to say, for the season. So if you're talking about wanting these girls to get paid the amount that they need to, overall prices are gonna go up in order to do that. And it is gonna come from the same way we talk about the tax paying dollars. It's gonna come from, unfortunately, the fans who have been there and who have been able to enjoy the game at a very affordable rate, those prices are gonna go up.

[King Coogler]

And that is the cost of starting this thing. And the trajectory this is, this is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I think, I think some of that is also greedy owners because a lot of the, the salary crap a lot of times is tied to the TV contracts. And so with the, the new players contract running for seven years, the TV contract runs for 11 years. So I'm sure it has that window tied up so they can decide, you know, likely, like there might be probably an opt out before 11 years. I think the opt out is probably tied to that seven year mark. So I think the women are probably tying their players agreement to the TV contracts so they could see, because presumably when the league gets more money through tv, that's what the women want to share. And so like, we had a, we had an earlier podcast where we talked about the percentage of revenue that the women shared in. So before it was about 9%. Now it's getting, it's close to 20%. So they're getting, they're getting it from like overall league revenue.

[Mandy B]

I think it's also just, it goes to show too, in this era of celebrity, for a decade, you had maybe three to five players. You know, you had the Diana Taurasi, you had Skylar Diggins, you had Lisa Leslie, Sue Burton.

[Jason]

And that was like, I was like, it. Sheryl Swoopes. And it was like, okay, you know what I mean?

[Mandy B]

But you literally have so many more WNBA players now that are being talked about on the same scale of certain NBA players and celebrities. And they have podcasts now. You got the Asia Wilsons, you, you have the Caitlin Clarks, you have the Angel Reese's, and you just have more women being even. Just discussed.

[Jason]

Yeah, the star powers.

[Mandy B]

So the league is becoming more star powered as well.

[Jason]

And to your point about like the season ticket prices, it's kind of like we get it. Like, the fans have expressed their love for the wnba, but it's like, I like that you tell me that you love me, but show me that you love me. Yeah, like spin that bread. That will tell me how much you love me. I love the compliments and all the things you love coming to the game and all that. But, like, pull out your wallet and show me how much you actually love me. And so it'll be interesting to see how that part goes. Like, do the fans, are they gonna spend that bread? Are they Gonna buy those $22,000 season tickets.

[Mandy B]

Season tickets.

[Jason]

And bring their families and really move. Cause part of it will be Part of the growth of the league will be what the fans do.

[Mandy B]

It's just hard because we is in over.

[King Coogler]

It's ugly out here.

[Mandy B]

Like, we talking about we paying for everything.

[King Coogler]

We paying for gas.

[Jason]

We paying for walls.

[King Coogler]

We paying for WNBA players.

[Mandy B]

Southwest is saying you gotta pay to have your seat clean now. Like, oh, did you see?

[King Coogler]

You gotta wipe, first of all.

[Mandy B]

Okay, did you see? We might not, but now we gotta buy our own disinfectant wipes.

[King Coogler]

Well, I think we should do that anyway. I do that.

[Jason]

Well, yeah. Don't outsource your hygiene.

[King Coogler]

Cause I don't.

[Jason]

You can't trust these people, bro.

[Mandy B]

Look, yomi's looking lost. Y' all may be looking lost. Allegedly.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Southwest is putting a premium cost on seats being cleaned. And so if you want a seat cleaned on Southwest, it's gonna come at a cost.

[King Coogler]

Southwest about the wild frontier. It is. Fuck it.

[Mandy B]

You know what else is crazy? Did y'. All. You were talking about biscuits earlier. Did y' all hear. Did y' all hear the Popeyes file bankruptcy?

[Jason]

Whoa.

[Mandy B]

Well, look at. Look at.

[King Coogler]

They did. Yeah, they just dropped a new.

[Jason]

Disturbed some.

[King Coogler]

Then they just dropped a new cheese.

[Mandy B]

Did you just say they just dropped a new Mac and cheese?

[King Coogler]

Yeah, I seen a new. Somebody reviewing Mac and cheese from Popeyes.

[Jason]

They got a new Mac and cheese.

[King Coogler]

Some kind of. I don't know.

[Jason]

Did they?

[King Coogler]

Some. Yeah, there you go.

[Mandy B]

All right.

[Jason]

Popeyes are supreme.

[Mandy B]

A major. Oh, and this is even Miami, unfortunately. Which is crazy because Meg Thee stallion just bought one. Over 130 locations in Florida and Georgia filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy.

[Jason]

That is not the place where I thought they were bankruptcy. I got a theory.

[Mandy B]

Now, the filing resulted in closure of roughly 20 underperforming locations due to approximately $130 million in debt. And so, yeah, in 2026, we can expect quite a bit of closings of franchise. Now, y' all know, if y' all wanna look and see what all the different types of bankruptcies mean, y' all can follow Pinky Cole, who is the owner, slutty vegan. She's out here teaching y' all about bankruptcies. Like Rachel.

[King Coogler]

Like Ms. Rachel.

[Jason]

Being a Ms. Rachel of bankruptcy is a wild title there.

[Mandy B]

She said there's different ones. There's 13.

[Jason]

She did break it down pretty good. She did break it down pretty good.

[King Coogler]

Number 20.

[Mandy B]

I don't think there's bankruptcy. Chapter 27.

[King Coogler]

Okay.

[Jason]

I don't think 13 and 11. But you know what, though? If that might be the really the canary in the. In the Coal mine. Because when you tell me canary in the coal mine.

[Mandy B]

Raisin biscuits.

[King Coogler]

What you are for real or something?

[Mandy B]

Canary in a coal mine.

[Jason]

Coal mine. So, like, if you can't sell fried chicken in the south, where can you sell? Where can you. You sell fried chicken at? Cuz you're not. You're not selling all the units in Detroit, in Chicago and in New York. Like, I get it. People are buy.

[King Coogler]

But like, New York, these are going crazy over Popeye.

[Jason]

No, I bet they are. But like, if you can't do it in. What is it in Florida and in Georgia?

[Mandy B]

Georgia.

[King Coogler]

Georgia.

[Jason]

You can't sell. Yeah. If you can't sell fried chicken here, you got to close your locations. Your business is cooked.

[King Coogler]

I think Bojangles has something to do with this.

[Mandy B]

Maybe.

[King Coogler]

I think they stepping all over Bojangles

[Mandy B]

is not that good.

[King Coogler]

But they.

[Mandy B]

They for fried chicken.

[King Coogler]

They just opened a new one and they opened the first one, I believe, in Brooklyn.

[Jason]

Did they?

[King Coogler]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

Oh, Bojangles done went up to north.

[Jason]

That's crazy. I definitely would not think that they would be that far above the Mason Dixon.

[King Coogler]

You know, New York love some south shit.

[Jason]

They do.

[King Coogler]

You bring Sonics in New York, they go crazy. They got Sonics.

[Mandy B]

I'mma tell you what it is. It's really the Chick Fil A. It's elite. Even with being closed on Sundays.

[King Coogler]

That's.

[Mandy B]

That's the Chick Fil A. It ain't even got fried. It's not. It's fried.

[Jason]

It's fried, but it's not fried. It's not nigga fried. It's like Christian fried. It's like fried by God.

[King Coogler]

Not Church's.

[Jason]

Not that.

[Mandy B]

Yes. Yeah, that kind of.

[King Coogler]

Do people eat church's chicken a little bit?

[Jason]

Church's. Church is in the hood.

[King Coogler]

Church is better than. Is it ranked higher than Popeyes?

[Jason]

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

[King Coogler]

So how does Popeyes go, Go. Go bankrupt before churches?

[Jason]

Well, I think there's less churches, and I think church, to me, like, in Atlanta, I don't really see churches that much unless you're in the hood. Like, you go to Decatur, you go to. To. To Candler Road, you'll probably see a church or something.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, you do.

[Jason]

But, like, you don't really see there's Popeyes on Roswell Road in Sandy Springs. There's Popeyes in Buckhead.

[Mandy B]

Like, you'll find there's Popeyes in the airport.

[Jason]

In the airport, yeah. Churches is a very specific, like.

[King Coogler]

Oh, correction, Bojang, this is not even. But, yo, Jason, listen. They put a Bojangles on 5910 Church Avenue in Brooklyn. Right in Flatbush.

[Mandy B]

Right there where it should be.

[Jason]

So wait, is that.

[Mandy B]

Wow.

[King Coogler]

Sorry, no oxtails, like. Nah, you need some fried chicken.

[Jason]

Well, I was gonna say Flatbush. That's where Caribbean people is at, right?

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Jason]

So, like, what is the. What is the soul food culture?

[Mandy B]

It's Jamaican food.

[Jason]

Is this Jamaican food?

[King Coogler]

It's West Indian food.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, West Indian.

[King Coogler]

You got Trinidad. Trinidad food, Jamaican food, Haitian.

[Jason]

But is there other soul food, like, competition for Popeyes there?

[Mandy B]

Soul food in New York is really in Harlem.

[Jason]

It's just Harlem thing, right?

[King Coogler]

You saying Popeyes is soul food?

[Jason]

No, no, it's not soul, but it's not.

[King Coogler]

It changed Popeyes, and Popeyes was. Can't see Popeyes.

[Jason]

Okay.

[King Coogler]

Those are the two things now. Bojangles, church lines around the corner and all that. That's because of the hype.

[Jason]

Brand new.

[King Coogler]

We got a Southern restaurant in New York now.

[Jason]

I feel like Bojangles, people just go

[Mandy B]

there for the biscuits line at Bojangles.

[King Coogler]

They open up a Dallas barbecue in Newark, New Jersey, and I'm like, why is it lined wrapped around this whole.

[Mandy B]

I ain't going to hold you. That's. That's some of the nastiest chicken.

[King Coogler]

What, bro?

[Mandy B]

The Hennessy.

[King Coogler]

The Dallas BBQ chicken. First off, the wings are like, my.

[Mandy B]

I was going to say no, the gmo, by the way, they are. Are not chicken wings.

[King Coogler]

No, no, no.

[Mandy B]

They are Tyrannosaurus reddish wings.

[King Coogler]

That's a human torso right there.

[Jason]

That's a femur. They ain't got a chicken wing.

[Mandy B]

It is not. It's like they are this big, and you get like three of them on a plate, and the plates are this big. It's ridiculous.

[King Coogler]

And then the big old Texas size drink.

[Mandy B]

It's crazy.

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[Mandy B]

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[Mandy B]

Now before we get out of here, we do have to end with a little bit of politics. We getting into this is America. And speaking of lines, the TSA lines across the country are gas. Now this comes after a lot of political shit, y'.

[King Coogler]

All.

[Mandy B]

We pretty much are in another government shutdown, TSA agents are not being paid and there is pretty much discourse yet again between the red and blue. Not the bloods And Crips. But of course, the Republicans and Democrats on how ICE agents are going to be essentially either integrated into, into the Department of Homeland Security at the airport or not.

[King Coogler]

I hope he just chatting and.

[Mandy B]

Go ahead. I know you got more things to add to this Jock.

[Jason]

So this morning, the he's called the border security czar, Tom Holman. This isn't a threat anymore. This is going to happen starting tomorrow. Oh, ICE will be, ICE will be deployed to airports starting tomorrow morning. But the thing about it is, and we talked about this on CNN a little, little bit this morning, and I figured this was going to be the case was that they're not deploying ICE to the airport to make up for the imbalance of tsa. They're not.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Although they say that that's what they're saying.

[Jason]

Yes. Yeah. But they're not there to help the process be faster. The lines are still going to be long. ICE is just going to be there. And it was telling what, this is going to intimidate people and scare people?

[King Coogler]

This is going to be very problematic.

[Jason]

In the statement, it was telling to me that he emphasized when he was talking about, when Trump was talking about rolling out ice, that he emphasized Somali people. So this isn't even really about like, oh, TSA isn't there. We need some extra security. He's there to take revenge against people that he just wants to fuck with.

[King Coogler]

So what's the criteria to get pulled

[Mandy B]

to get, I mean, be black or brown?

[Jason]

Yeah, pretty black.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Exactly. It's just gonna be they have an

[Jason]

accent that they don't like that they think is suspect.

[King Coogler]

And that's gonna help the lines how?

[Jason]

No, it's not.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So, you know, you know what they do a king. It's like the press release comes out from the White House and it says, like, due to TSA long lines and they need this help, ICE is going to come. But then like when, when Holman and like Trump get interviewed, they say, oh, we're going to put ICE out there and they're going to go get them and they're going to check IDs. So it's like, you know, it's that same like talking out of both sides faces they do, but for them, they're just like, oh, we're going to eat up and like get our quotas.

[Mandy B]

By the way, the timing of this is really interesting because starting May 7, which is also right around the corner, it's, you are and will be required to have a real ID in terms of traveling. So the real ID means You need to have a star on it or you have to have a passport. Right. And I think one of the most interesting things that I found out most recently, especially being that they're now requiring you. And this is for women, unfortunately, they're requiring you to have certain IDs that match your maiden name in order.

[Jason]

Oh, yeah. That part, too, right? Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy B]

If you're a woman talking about this, they're saying that only about 46% of the population even has those kind of.

[Jason]

Yep.

[Mandy B]

And so this is going to get really interesting, not only in terms of midterm elections, but now traveling. World Cups coming. World cup is coming here. And you're saying that ice is about to be in the goddamn airport.

[King Coogler]

You pull the wrong person and then some kind of public discourse. That's not going to end well in the airport.

[Jason]

Right.

[King Coogler]

And I'm only. I hope everything is peace. But based on what we've seen thus far is like, I don't have any optimism that it's gonna be peaceful.

[Mandy B]

Not only that, we have Iran saying, hey, niggas still beware.

[Jason]

Yeah, yeah. Shit ain't sweet.

[Mandy B]

Like, shit ain't sweet. Threatening, like, tourism in certain areas. And it's just like.

[Jason]

Well, I fully expect there to be protests inside the airport. At the airport, I expected to get. To get bad because, like, this whole weekend I was out running errands. And I'm out, like, north Atlanta. And for about four exits, there were people, I guess they had organized themselves where they had, like, fuck ICE protest signs. People standing up there cheering with signs for, like, at least four and a half miles. So if they're doing that in the suburbs, I fully expect them to bring that energy down to Hartsfield Jackson Airport, and it's gonna get that much more messy.

[Mandy B]

I ain't gonna lie. I had my flight to LA. It was a 7:25am flight, baby. Them lines were wrapped through baggage claim. Yeah, like. And I luckily have TSA Precheck, but It took me 40, about 40 minutes to get through. Now, that doesn't sound like a lot for people who don't have TSA Precheck. Cause ghetto. So I know y' all are used to standing in those lines.

[King Coogler]

What's the point of you getting.

[Mandy B]

I have digital id. I have clear. I have TSA pre digital id and clear are not even open.

[Jason]

Doesn't even matter.

[Mandy B]

It doesn't even matter. Mind you, my normal TSA going through at Atlanta Hartsfield, less than five minutes.

[Jason]

Yep. It's pretty smooth for the most part. For as busy as it is, you

[Mandy B]

can go through for as busy as it is. I go right through.

[King Coogler]

What'd you think? The volume that she was navigating through the airport was like.

[Mandy B]

I was pissed.

[King Coogler]

I think she was at like 4. Oh yeah.

[Mandy B]

No mind you here go yomi. And this was my ignorant moment. Cause I thought it was just for like the hailstorm we had. That's why flights was canceled and shit like that. I didn't even know we were going through yet another shutdown.

[King Coogler]

Talk show shutdown.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, shutdown. And at first as well. They were only showing like Houston. But I was like, oh, spring break, niggas don't even care about fucking water no more. They're all at spring break. That's just cause niggas is in Houston everywhere. Yeah, no, it's a lot. If you are traveling, going to the airport anytime this week, you gotta get there early. I will say LAX was a breeze. So there are only certain airports that are being impacted. It's LaGuardia, it's Atlanta, it's Houston, it's I think Chicago, DCA and maybe one more.

[Jason]

Now they're saying that this is pretty much like, like the last week that they need to figure this out before there is like a two week recess to vote. So it's like now you're really up against it to like who's gonna blink first?

[Mandy B]

And that's another thing y' all need to do. I'm just gonna encourage you to read because the propaganda that is going out right now on these TSA lines are because of the Democrats blame Democrats. Dems are the reason. And Republicans are literally pushing this narrative that. And this is why the Dems are bad. And it's just like, well, they underst.

[King Coogler]

They read the room too. They know that people are not educating themselves, they're not reading. They're buying into the social media narrative.

[Jason]

And I had a lot of. I had several conversations with people last night, you know, journalist friends, that I'm just like, what do y' all think of this? Because the narrative is that it is the Democrats fault. And I guess the part that I'm trying to figure out is it's not the Democrats fault per se, but the Democrats want certain things changed from ICE and how they're going about doing this in order to fund these public, I'm sorry, these federal agencies. So the question becomes who does it hurt more? Like the pain narrative of TSA agents not getting paid is bad and people are broke and they're on TV talking about how hard it is for Them. And there's no. There's no. When they talk about it, they're saying, yo, Congress, get your shit together. They're not saying, donald Trump gets your shit together. They're not saying, republicans, get your shit together. They're saying, Congress, which means all of y'. All. So if it's all of Congress, that's much worse for Democrats than it is for Republicans. We gonna see.

[King Coogler]

I mean, you've seen TSA agents, they was giving out boxes of, like, eggs and milk and just to take home to their family, they have to pay

[Jason]

for their own parking.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

And that's what they're offering. They're offering meals and parking in Atlanta.

[King Coogler]

Yeah, Atlanta. They were asking the public, like, hey, don't give them food. Give them gas cards or gift cards where they can just go and smoke.

[Mandy B]

That's crazy.

[Jason]

That's where we're at now.

[Mandy B]

This is America.

[King Coogler]

And if you see these people walking in, you know, helping out or pushing the wheelchair, stuff like that, yo, just like, we shout out the military like, yo, thank you for your service. Yeah.

[Jason]

Salute the people.

[King Coogler]

They don't have to. That's another. They don't have to show up.

[Mandy B]

They don't.

[King Coogler]

But I think there are a select few that's like, yo, if we don't show up, this shit is done.

[Jason]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Well, thank you for your service.

[Jason]

Yes, TSA agents, we appreciate y'.

[Dan Morgan]

All.

[Mandy B]

We need y' all badly. Bad.

[Jason]

Bad.

[Mandy B]

Real bad. Well, this was fun. This Friday's bonus episode, y', all, we are getting into the our thoughts and opinions around Tank versus Tyrese. We are also getting into Patrick Beverley. We talked about him last week. He got kicked off of his own podcast. And then also a woman was charged with murder for using abortion pills. And I am not gonna have the take y' all think I am gonna have on that. So tune in to Friday's bonus episode where we get into more things happening and all the outrage and y', all. This was fun.

[Jason]

Hell, yeah.

[Mandy B]

I'm glad that y' all haven't disowned me for being heaven sent and not being the biggest Jay Z.

[Jason]

No, we keeping you around. Cause you got lemon pepper wig.

[Mandy B]

The lemon pepper. 27 piece.

[Jason]

27 piece, all flats. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy B]

I'm not playing with you. Jason, thank you for joining us. Not sure if we'll have you on for the bonus. We never really do, you know, pto, you said I also do half days.

[Jason]

You're a good boss.

[Mandy B]

I'm doing a half day day today, bro. You got to get some rest, you know? But thank you so much for joining us. Hope you guys appreciated and enjoyed this week's episode. Y' all already know this is Selective Ignorance, baby. Where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter. See you next week on this Heaven

[King Coogler]

Sent podcast,

[Mandy B]

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[Jason Rodriguez]

Thanks for tuning in the Selective Ignorance with Mandy B. Selective Ignorance is executive produced by Mandy B. And it's a full Court Media Studio production with lead producers Jason Rodriguez, that's me, and Aaron A. King Howard. Now do us a favor and rate, subscribe, comment and share wherever you get your favorite favorite podcast. And be sure to follow Selective Ignorance on Instagram at Selective Underscore Ignorant. And of course, if you're not following our host, Mandy B. Make sure you're following her at Full court Pumps. Now, if you want the full video experience of Selective Ignorance, make sure you subscribe to the Patreon it's patreon.com backslash selective ignorance.

[Mandy B]

It's your girl, Mandy B. And you just checked out my new podcast, Selective Ignorance. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure you head on over and hit that subscribe button and check out Selective Ignorance every Tuesday and every Friday wherever you listen to your favorite podcast.

[Danielle Fishel]

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