Selective Ignorance: Pulpit Wars, Tartare & Standards | Bonus Episode

Summary

Decisions, Decisions – "Selective Ignorance: Pulpit Wars, Tartare & Standards" | Bonus Episode

Date: January 16, 2026
Host: Mandii B (plus contributors Jason Rodriguez, Aaron A. King Howard, and producers)
Podcast Network: The Black Effect and iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this candid and unfiltered bonus episode, Mandii B and her co-hosts tackle the complexities of modern relationships, societal standards, and the hilarity and ignorance that often surface in social and political conversations. With characteristic humor and openness, the group explores topics ranging from "ignorant" food ordering, shifting standards in dating and relationships, the influence of gambling and celebrity culture, to heated debates around women’s clothing—culminating in a discussion about changing social norms inside and outside the church.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ignorance in Food Orders: Tartar & Calamari Confusion

[10:13 – 24:28]

• Mandii B recounts a hilarious birthday dinner experience:

  • Guests at her table mistakenly think "tuna tartare" is supposed to be cooked. One friend laments, “I wish it was charred, not tartar!” (16:01)
  • Another guest confuses "calamari" with octopus (wrong, it's squid), and still another with jellyfish.
  • The ignorance leads Mandii to note: “Americans are in America ordering dishes they have no clue what it is...that’s how ignorant Americans are” (19:01).

• Group reflects on their own food blunders:

  • Jason shares an early-career mishap when he mistook calamari for onion rings, becoming the subject of a teachable moment at lunch (21:40).

• Key Insight:

  • The segment jokingly highlights cultural gaps in food literacy and the awkwardness (or fun) that unfolds when people order unfamiliar dishes just to try "something different."

“I love that I gave a lesson at the table. Let them know that you didn’t hide.” (Mandy B, 20:00)

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2. Relationship Standards: Settling, Testing & Dating Dilemmas

[25:01 – 34:47]

• Clip Debate Recap:

  • Discussion centers on a viral podcast clip where a woman is upset her new boyfriend offers to pay her return flight from Turks and Caicos but not her outbound flight ($380), sparking debate about standards in relationships.

• Double Down or Take it Back?

  • Mandii B stands by her opinion that “accepting less” after experiencing more in previous relationships is settling:

    "If those are things that you like that you’ve already gotten, for you to be with a man who doesn’t exhibit those things, you are settling..." (28:28)

  • Still, she admits that waiting for a partner who checks every single box is unrealistic.

• Test or True Standard?

  • The group debates whether men "test" women in early relationship stages, with Aaron A. King Howard arguing:

    “You don’t get to find out what kind of person I am via manipulation... Life is going to present situations where you’ll find out what somebody is really, really on.” (31:28)

• Men’s Perspective:

  • The “test” of not buying a $380 flight is seen as weak or “not a real test" considering the overall cost of the trip.

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3. Political Predictions & Economic Anxiety in 2026

[35:04 – 43:00]

• Republican Party Infighting:
  • Aaron predicts more Republican "infighting" as members seek a post-Trump identity:

    “I think as 2026 goes on... you’re going to see more of a decline within the party of the politicians themselves, of Trump support...” (36:53)

• Impeachment as Spectacle:
  • Trump wearing his possible impeachments "like 50 [Cent] wears getting shot"—as a badge of untouchability. (37:51)
• Healthcare and Class Division:
  • Mandii raises how stories of people dying from lack of healthcare are emotionally weaponized by Democrats (39:44), and draws parallels between the U.S. and places like Nigeria where the gulf between "haves" and "have-nots" is frightening.

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4. Gambling, Rico Charges, & Cultural Impact

[43:00 – 57:05]

• Gambling Proliferation:

  • The group compares the explosion of legal gambling and platforms like "Stake" to the crack epidemic:

    "I literally am comparing this to the crack epidemic because it’s gonna f*** up these households..." (50:00)

  • Discussion includes Drake, Aiden Ross, and other celebrities named in a RICO lawsuit for allegedly using gambling and crypto to inflate streaming numbers.

• Casinos & Community Harm:

  • Producer highlights how casinos create jobs for a few, but mostly drain wealth from poor communities (50:36).

• Celebrity Decision-Making:

  • Mandii lampoons the hypocrisy of people cheering on Nas for a casino bid, but criticizing Jay-Z for other capitalist moves (54:25).

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5. Standards, Hypocrisy, and Church Debates: The Pulpit Wars

[57:05 – 79:08]

• Dress Code Debates:

  • The internet debate over Dr. Cheyenne Bryant’s Vegas “black tie” outfit and Pastor Jamal Bryant’s wife’s flesh-colored gala dress.
  • Mandii:

    “I think a woman should be able to wear whatever, but... there’s certain things you put on that unfortunately... the congregation and society... will judge you on.” (61:53)

  • The pastors’ public back-and-forth about appropriateness sparks criticism:

    “Why are we having pulpit war? Why are you talking about me and my wife from your pulpit? Talk about God.” (74:00)

• "Standardless" Society?

  • The group discusses whether dress standards should still exist, especially for public and professional figures.

    "Are we just standardless now?" (67:59)

• Mega-church Capitalism:

  • Satirical look at the spectacle of modern mega-churches—production values akin to Las Vegas, "Passion City Church," and pastors’ luxury lifestyles.
  • Conversation circles back to hypocrisy in criticizing Black wealth in the church, yet desiring generational wealth for Black Americans:

    "Don’t we want generational wealth within our community? Don’t we want Black people to win? Like, is it Uchi Wally or is it..." (80:24)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On ordering unfamiliar food:

  “People order food and don’t know what it is!” — Mandy B (17:28)

• On “tricking” and relationship standards:

  “If you are a woman who has experienced a man who shows up with flowers...book[s] dates...for you to be with a man who doesn’t, you are settling...” — Mandy B (28:28)

• On the new gambling landscape:

  “I literally am comparing this to the crack epidemic because it’s gonna f*** up these households...” — Mandy B (50:00)
  “People cheered for Nas getting his casino and people killed Jay-Z...” — Aaron A. King Howard (54:25)

• On church fashion scandals:

  “A two dollar whore... At least two.” — Jason Rodriguez, quoting church criticism of a pastor’s wife (61:27)

• On standards and hypocrisy:

  “Are we just standardless now?” — Jason Rodriguez (67:59)
  “Don’t we want generational wealth within our community?...Is it Uchi Wally or is it...” — Mandy B (80:24)

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Key Timestamps

• Food ignorance and dinner party tales: [10:13 – 24:28]
• Relationship standards and dating debate: [25:01 – 34:47]
• Political predictions, healthcare crisis: [35:04 – 43:00]
• Gambling and RICO charges: [43:00 – 57:05]
• Celebrity, standards, and the pulpit wars: [57:05 – 79:08]
• Mega Church spectacle and Black church wealth debate: [75:04 – 80:24]

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Tone and Style

• Language is humorous, direct, and sometimes irreverent—typical of Mandii B and her co-hosts.
• The episode freely moves between laughter and serious critique, blending vulnerability, personal stories, cultural critique, and moments of real activism.
• Memorable for its "reckless" approach to taboo or controversial topics, candid storytelling, and commitment to pushing boundaries around modern relationships and cultural standards.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

This bonus episode playfully dissects the “ignorance” and standards that shape our decisions—be it at the dinner table, in dating, political engagement, or in church. Through personal anecdotes and panel banter, the hosts demonstrate how collective assumptions (about food, relationships, policy, money, or morality) both constrain and amuse us. The show’s charm lies in its refusal to take anything off-limits and in its willingness to challenge not only traditional patriarchal narratives, but also contemporary hypocrisies in celebrity, capitalism, and community life.

Transcript

[Mandy B]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

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[Mandy B]

Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However, before we get to this week's episode, I want to remind you guys to purchase my book, no Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel free to go to your local bookstores, preferably queer owned, black owned or woman owned, to support them, but also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or wherever you read your books. Again, that is no Holes Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcast with Wheezy. Make sure y' all get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect podcast network and iHeartRadio. Yo, yo, yo. Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance with your girl, Mandy B. And we're kicking this bonus one off Real reckless. Because first up, I gotta tell y' all about an ignorant moment that I just witnessed in none other than a birthday dinner that I went to. If you didn't listen to the Tuesday one, I already brought some ignorance there, but I got some more ignorance. And when I say that, I laughed so hard I almost choked y'. All. I was high as hell. I put this in my notes just to talk about it with y' all today. I could not believe my ears and it got me thinking. Is there ignorance in food orders when you don't know the food you're ordering? That is the ignorant. Take that I have to talk about today and you'll laugh about it, but of course, we're also getting into this is America, where we're looking ahead and making some bold 2026 political predictions. And while we're at it, we gotta ask the real question nobody wants. The answer rolled out. Is gambling. The new crack epidemic. Crack is whack. Oh, yeah, I took it there because suddenly it's everywhere. Is this about freedom? This ain't free. Or are we regulating it in the same way we did weed so that the powers can be in line with the pockets with the 1 percenters. We dive into it. The whole Rico sized conversation involving Sh, Drake A and Aiden, Steak and Trick. Look at me. I'm over here rhyming, baby, like a rapper. All right, and then next up is celebrity save the darnest things. The Internet. Internet went absolutely ablaze and is still talking about the two Bryants. That's right. Cheyenne Bryant and Pastor Jamal Bryant's wife. And what the two had to wear in settings that apparently y', all, the ladies, the women, we can't wear what we want to wear, where we want to wear it without the Internet having something to say. I also have a double down or take it back from a recent take I had on my decisions to see podcast. And of course, we are ending things out here with celebrities say the darnest things. Getting into Jim Jones versus Cam' Ron versus the let's Rap About it podcast crew versus 50 Cent versus all the things. And we have some thoughts about these rappers on microphones. We'll get into all of the things as well as an am I ignorant at the very end to wrap it up. But before we get into all the things, I am joined by my super.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Producer, gang, Gang gang.

[Mandy B]

I have journalism Jason up there in Jersey. I was going to keep going with.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

J. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

We got the Triple J over there. And then we got podcast OG and Legend a king on the mic in the boards. So if anything doesn't sound right.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Blame the interns that ain't get hit.

[Mandy B]

The interns are not here yet. But yeah, if y' all don't like the audio.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Getting done, that's what you're supposed to say.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Facts.

[Mandy B]

Y. Oh, yeah, he making sure get up on time over here. And then y', all, we. We luckily have him twice this week. Y' all are. Y' all are gonna miss him because you're only getting him once a week, baby. But we have Jason J, who you.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Love and who you want to be hugging, huh?

[Mandy B]

Oh, and he is Also journalism Jason 2.0, but he's just gonna be journalism Jaw. So we got.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Reggae.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. I want to start leaving them in there because it sounds so, like, on cue. Like, insert this here. I'll be taking them out.

[Mandy B]

Why do you take it out?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Because I insert it.

[Mandy B]

I'll be like, hey, insert jeopardy. Music.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I missed the opportunity. My bad. I missed it. I missed it. You saw it, though.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I saw it. I saw it. I saw it. I'm with you.

[Mandy B]

A king said he wants to let y' all know he knows when people tell him to insert things in place.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Keep it in.

[Mandy B]

That's what I heard.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's what I hear.

[Mandy B]

Oh, is that what you were.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Keep it.

[Mandy B]

Keep it in.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Y' all get no semen retention.

[Mandy B]

Talking about cream pies in the first five minutes of this guy. Like, where are we going with this guy?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I think cream turbo button. I think the percentage of cream pie that's happened is probably lower now.

[Mandy B]

No, it's very high. These bitches pregnant.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

These bitches is Fergus, Bro, don't nobody like condoms. Nobody like condoms, Bro, I want to be safe. And I get it. Don't nobody want to get syphilis or gonorrhea, nothing like that. But don't nobody want.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, we don't got no CDC no more, so we don't know what's happening.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Std.

[Mandy B]

No. We need to put an alert out there. Hey, y', all, the masks that we was wearing during COVID Oh, they need to come back on because there's something else out there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I wear mine. I wear mine, and I start. I start seeing an uptick in people wearing it, too. Worried about whatever.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Whatever the new thing is.

[Mandy B]

Oh, no, there's a new.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's like the super flu.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Super flu.

[Mandy B]

Oh, I ain't going to hold y'. All a. That got sick every. Every. Every week this month. Like, no, no, no. Since October.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

October.

[Mandy B]

November. And I was just sick in New York. Thank God my little boo was able to get me a Z pack, so he went and got me that. But, baby, I'm someone who never gets sick. And I got sick right after my birthday, and I Kissing stranger at the. At the bar the night before. I probably should have just been making out with strangers, right?

[Jason Rodriguez]

You did that?

[Mandy B]

Of course I did. Okay, so I was trying to prove to this guy what non monogamy looked like, right? And I was like, yeah, man. I just be going out begging, and he ain't believe me. He's like, nah, man. Maybe it's a little harder for him. So we're at the bar, and he just Sees these women start coming to, like, I'm just a magnet, right? Oh, a girl magnet. Woman magnet.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Let me not a magnet.

[Mandy B]

Wait, I can say.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You could, yeah.

[Mandy B]

Can I say with endearment, Right? So. So the bitches flock. You feel me? And so we're at the bar talking, and we're literally just doing shots. I buy these girls shots, and then I tell them to kiss me. And I'm literally just on both sides, two different bitches.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

How many kisses you think you did?

[Mandy B]

Enough to get sick.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You are the contagion. Okay.

[Mandy B]

And so didn't kiss anyone the week after. But in around Thanksgiving, I had a cough that lasted for about two weeks. I said, what the fuck is this? And then go up to New York. And of course, I feel like it's just allergies because I went from Curacao to Orlando to New York.

[Jason Rodriguez]

All a lot. A lot of.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

A lot of traveling.

[Mandy B]

A lot of temperature changes, you know, And Black Zosia.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

You the black Zoja.

[Mandy B]

Jet to holiday. Oh, yeah. I was on the. Yes. And was. And was. Because my ass took. Took Frontier down to Orlando. That was giving a jet to holiday. I was like, yeah, sure. I. When I fly it, where are the TVs, where are the outlets?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Listen.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Whoa.

[Mandy B]

This is the bare bones of a plane.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Short travel.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, I was gonna say frontier with demands.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Listen, just. Just stay in the frontier.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

You can see the wiring.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

All you gotta do.

[Mandy B]

You know what? You know what? A part of me did very briefly feel aligned with the Delta CEO's sentiments. That is very classless and very ignorant, but I felt him just a little bit. I don't know if y' all saw. Over the holidays, the Delta CEO spoke out and was like, these budget airlines are ruining the experience of flights. Basically insinuating that, hey, the peasants shouldn't even be able to fly. Like, they should just be on the Greyhound or road trip it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Mega bus.

[Mandy B]

What do you say?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Wasn't that the attitude when they. When they changed how the sky miles kind of. It's like.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

It's appealing to the big spin.

[Jason Rodriguez]

20, 24.

[Mandy B]

Oh, and I'm not gonna lie. A part of me, every time I walk into it. Every time the lounge has a line, I say, bro, I thought we took care of this. Why are there so many people in here? I'm one of those people.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

My girl had a whole attitude at the airport in New Orleans because the lady was like, oh, we're at capacity. And Whoopi. Whoopi, capacity. You weren't trying to hear nothing about that the. You talking about? I got Whoopi.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Whoop Miles.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, I'm about to. I'm saying, hey, hey, hey, listen, I want. No.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And that's why you move the goal post, to make it a little bit more.

[Mandy B]

And. And look at us. We're on this side, and we're like, yeah, keep moving the gopost. Still too many N over here.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Get off out of here.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Listen, the perks and the convenience.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Listen.

[Mandy B]

Nah, dead ass. Well, I wanted to share with y'. All. Y' all know I went to a birthday dinner, and because I'm in dry January, a bitch was on drugs. And so, DRO Goss, I'm not gonna lie, I was like, damn. Not me having the itch to be on some sort of vice.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like I need to.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

That.

[Mandy B]

That I can't go out in public and be sober. Sober. But no. So I literally ended up writing this in my notes because I could not believe it.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

So what night was this? This was.

[Mandy B]

This was Saturday night.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Saturday night.

[Mandy B]

Saturday night.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Jason, look in the calendar to make sure that this. Whatever this is, it is. Remember the first episode?

[Mandy B]

It was within the. Yeah, it was still within it. Still within that day. So, y'. All. So. So I'm out last night. And there's two parts to this. It's where maybe your thoughts should be, you know, should stay in your mind. But my thoughts all spilled right out because I didn't give a fuck. So the first part came. So I sat across from a lovely lady who had, like, a huge scar on her from her mouth down to her neck. Right.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Is that attractive or not?

[Mandy B]

Okay, well, I didn't know where it came from. And so, mind y'. All, I just had a fresh. Y' all see underneath here. So Bodhi had just got me. Bodhi is my cat.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, you got one of them Al Qaeda cats.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, baby.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

It's a very abusive relationship. I understand abusive relationships because he'll beat my ass. And then I. I just want to cuddle with him. Sorry.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I just want to love you, you know?

[Mandy B]

I do. I just want to show him love. Maybe he'll stop scratching me. Anyways, so I have this scratch under my lips. So I'm thinking this probably got a.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Cat or a dog.

[Mandy B]

You know what I mean?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Right.

[Mandy B]

And so I'm looking at the scratch, and I wanted to, like, you know, what's the word when you get with somebody?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Commiserate.

[Mandy B]

Now, that's a big one. What is commiserate? Okay. I wanted to box. It's a hundred dollar word.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I Wanted to bond with friendship for broken people.

[Mandy B]

About being a. A fur bomb.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The canoodle.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Assuming that's how she got hers.

[Mandy B]

Assuming that's how she got hers.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, so, y'.

[Mandy B]

All. I'm having a conversation with the people next to me, mind you. This is my thought, but I didn't say it out loud yet because we hadn't talked yet. Next thing I know, she's telling the story about the scar on her face. She got shot. Woof. Damn. Actually, it was a ricochet of a bullet that sliced her face, and so it sued up her. And so as she's telling this horrific story about being shot in the face from that stole a car that ended up outside, she thought it was a brother they were shooting. It was a. It was a robbery with shit they were breaking.

[Jason Rodriguez]

New York.

[Mandy B]

No, this was here in Atlanta. You know, this is where they do the armed robberies for the cars.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, yeah, Good old crime.

[Mandy B]

They Homeboy.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

What's Homeboy's name? From inmate.com.

[Mandy B]

Listen.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, Blake, Blake, Blake, Blake.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Inmate Blake.

[Mandy B]

Oh, no, no. Let's be very clear. The interior designer and contractor that I got to. To do the studio. Guess where I found her?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Inmate.com?

[Mandy B]

Worse. ATL scoop. She had a video of four floors of car breaking.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

And I clicked who recorded the video? And I said, oh.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Hold on.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I found her.

[Mandy B]

For ATL Scoop.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You like how that clip was shot?

[Mandy B]

I don't know.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You needed more information?

[Mandy B]

No, the. The information was. So I just came back.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Manny, scroll. This is a wild. She looks on the Internet like, what?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's a crazy way to find.

[Mandy B]

That's how I got.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She went through with it, by the way.

[Mandy B]

By the way. For those of you listening who are unfamiliar with ATL Scoop, ATL Scoop gives you all of the crime and bullshit that's happening in Atlanta.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's like NYC Scoop. All the Scoops.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, there's a NYC Scoop?

[Mandy B]

Yeah, it's a Scoop.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, okay.

[Mandy B]

Major cities.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, okay.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

For a second, I thought it was just something about Atlanta that was like, oh, yeah, that's some going on down there. Got to see this.

[Mandy B]

Like, I was like, okay, so anyway, so she goes and shares this story. And after I'm like, damn, that's a way cooler story about the. The cut on your face. I thought you had a. A pet. And so then that's how we became talking at that point, Right. Because I had to deal with my inner thoughts of thinking we bonded over having pets. But yet this got shot in the whole face, you know? What I mean? And I was like, damn you. Your. Your scratch is way cooler than mine.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I can't even tell my story now.

[Mandy B]

Because I'm like, a little.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

I said, you got a shot in the face. And I'm like, I got an orange cat. I got a tabby. Me up. All right, anyways, so that goes into us, like, just being now. Now we're talking, right?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

By the way, that's the story that I came back to her at the end of, which was also weird as fuck. So I didn't get to the end of what happened after she got shot because I got pulled away into another conversation.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, you. Like, I need to know.

[Mandy B]

So I came 20 minutes later and said, wait, you didn't finish the story about you getting shot. What happened next? That's literally how I did that. So very awkward. This is what happens when you're hot. So anyways, food starts being delivered because again, you know, party started late. Finally start getting food around 11. So I see that she ordered the tuna tartare.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Okay.

[Mandy B]

But she's not touching it. So I. I look across from her. Oh, yeah. This is where the ignorant. So I'm looking because, baby, I actually was saying a tartar. So I look over, and she's like, not touching it. She got the patata bravas. She got. She ordered quite a few, but she not touching this. And I kind of wanted to know if it was good. I said, oh. I said, why you not touching? You know, is it. Is it good? You don't like it? Like, you're not eating it? She was like, I don't think they cooked it. Oh, yep. Hold on.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

So I said, girl, it's tartar.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Why did you.

[Mandy B]

Hold on. I said, tartar means raw. And we ended up looking it up. Hold on. So this is how the. The conversation gets ignorant. So she's like, well, I wish it was char charred, because I don't know about this tartar. So then me. And I said, well, tartar is. Is means it's raw. You know, like steak, tartar, tartar. So the girl next to me, this is where it gets real ignorant. She's like, yeah, tartare is the preparation of it. And I'm like, actually, I think it's a French word. So we're now at the table trying.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

To Google the entomology of tartar, right?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Because she was fascinated by the scarf scar.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. So we're literally at the table, and now we're trying to spell tartar.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh.

[Mandy B]

Because I'm like, there's an E in that. So the girl pulls up tartar, and we pull up that it's a classic French dish. So where I was right, yes, it's a tartar is a dish. It's not the preparation, but it is. It does stem from a French word, often meaning that it's finely chopped and raw. And ingredients are included, such as shallots, capers, parsley, mustard, and often served with a raw egg yolk as well. Yeah, which is what I told her, too. I said, now, this is the. It might be mixed in there, but you might be also eating raw egg.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mandy B]

So then it goes into my mind, like, damn. People order food and don't know what it is.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I was thinking the same. Gotta pay for it.

[Mandy B]

Hold on, you ready? And you gotta pay for it. So clearly she's like, I don't like my stuff raw. I don't like it raw. So hear me out. The person right next to Hermione, these are tapas or there's calamari. So 50. So she looks. So she looks. So she looks over at the calamari. And I got. Literally the way this happened. And the person is like, anybody want calamari? The girl across from her is so ignorant, says, like, yeah, I don't like octopus. So I'm like, well, actually. Hold on, you ready? So I'm like, oh. Just so you know, calamari is not octopus. It's squid. And at that very moment, the girl who also didn't know about tartar is like, you mean like jellyfish? So we went, man, so. And I'm so high, y'. All. I'm like, we just went from calling calamari octopus to jellyfish. When it's just squid. It's just squid. And maybe they all in the same family. I know they got tentacles and they look like when you draw them when you're in fifth grade. But. But the way that this table. And I was just like, wow. So we have people ordering tartare calamari, and they don't know what the fuck they ordering. So a part of me was like, when I go to other countries, I ask, what is this? When it's a word that I am unfamiliar with.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Pretty simple, you know what I mean?

[Mandy B]

Like a bitch went and lived in Singapore. It was ordered bim bimbop. And I said, now, what the fuck is a bim bimbop? Like, I needed to know.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Break it down.

[Mandy B]

The fact that Americans are in America ordering dishes that they have no clue what it is. Now, to be Fair. Tartar is a French word. And I feel like calamari might be Spanish. Let me see. What is calamari?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Inspiration and going in some way to eat. You just want to try something different and don't ask about it and don't even ask. You should be quizzing the. The, the waiter or, you know, you accustomed, by the way, is an Italian.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Okay, okay.

[Mandy B]

So this is how ignorant Americans are now. When words are rooted in other goddamn phonetics.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Right?

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

When it comes when it's Italian or when it's French. A bitch. Just don't know when it's on the menu in America and they out here just.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Why would you order it?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, that's the part that's confusing to me.

[Mandy B]

I mean, well, the person that ordered it, I feel like knew, but when it was offered to the other people, it was giving octopus and jellyfish.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But what if you wasn't present?

[Mandy B]

Oh, let's be very clear. Then they would maintain ignorant. I love that. I gave. I gave a lesson at the table. Let them know that you didn't hide. And I also, also got the consent to let. I told them I was going to talk about them in the pot. So you should have seen. So as they're deciphering between jellyfish, octopus and all that, I said, y', all, I don't know how high I am, but I'm writing this in my notes to talk about tomorrow.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You got that? I want to add him like mother, but.

[Mandy B]

But I did want to ask y' all if it's ignorant or if you guys have actually done this yourself, where you've ordered something without the knowledge of knowing what the it is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I did that.

[Mandy B]

And what made you do it? I need to know the psyche behind this.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So years ago, when I. Many before this whole thing, before cell.

[Mandy B]

Phones were out for you to Google.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It, when I was. When I was working, I had a 9 to 5 early on doing this, you know. You know, as we enter this podcast space. And I remember we went. Went our department went to a lunch thing or whatever. Now I'm thinking it was in Long island in. I think it was in New High park or Roslyn, one of them. Whatever. We went to this, this, this, this restaurant.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Pardon. I'm not ignorant now.

[Mandy B]

Oh, now you're not.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So now you're cultured. They had brought out appetizers and stuff, right? And the first thing I saw was the. Well, I didn't know it was calamari.

[Mandy B]

How did you say it?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Calamari. Calamari. Is that how you say it? Is that how you say it? That's how you say it. Like calamari. Calamari, Right.

[Mandy B]

This shit, Whoopi, y'.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

All, Calamari sound like a.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Listen, check this out, though. And I preface this by saying, you.

[Mandy B]

Thought it was onion ring. Yeah. You thought it was onion ring.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So boom. Yes. So I saw this shit. So, no, that gets you, nigga and.

[Mandy B]

Me.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I took one and I dipped it in the sauce, right? And I thought it was marinara.

[Mandy B]

Boom.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So then I had it. I had. I'm chewing.

[Mandy B]

I'm like, yo, these are your chewing.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So my colleague, you know, at the time, the Asian lady, she's super. She's like, you. In a sense, like, she. She sent. Something is not right.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And she sorted out.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She locked in on it.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, oh, nigga.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And she leaned in on to me. He's like. She's like, you all right? I said, yeah, but what? And I said, yo, why the onion rings so tough? And she. Yo. And she said, yo, that's not onion rings. That's calamari. And I'm like, what?

[Mandy B]

Why?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Okay, what is fried? I'm thinking it's based off. She said that squid.

[Mandy B]

I was like, oh, fuck, no.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. If I had known that before I ate it, I wouldn't have ate it.

[Mandy B]

Have. Do you eat calamari now? No, because you know what it is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

I thought this was gonna be a story growing.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, no, no, no.

[Mandy B]

I thought he was gonna elevate here.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, I'm not.

[Mandy B]

No.

[Jason Rodriguez]

There's no elevation.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I'm just not gonna eat that.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's the one thing in that culture.

[Mandy B]

That I'm not eating in that culture. It's a Italian. No, the word is. That's like entertainment.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Entertainment.

[Mandy B]

So calamari comes from the Italian mean, like, meaning squid. Yeah, but it's not Italian. It's just. It was an Italian word.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It was at the steakhouse. Italian, you know, But. But I. It's just tough. It's tough, though. The tough pizza thing.

[Mandy B]

That's funny.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, maybe they overcooked it. I feel like if you get a good calamar, it should be like.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

But if you think you're biting an onion.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But you knew, right, that I thought that it was onion.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's how people get got all the time.

[Mandy B]

Because. Yeah. People ignorant all the time.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I've seen it happen.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So I'm not gonna go to a restaurant, order all of that taco and all this.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, no.

[Mandy B]

The fact that she sat there after ordering tartare and was like, yeah, it's like it ain't cooked, and I don't know why it ain't cooked. And I said, all right.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So she didn't eat nothing.

[Mandy B]

Well, she ordered the potato, the patatas bravas. Those were just potatoes and mayo. You know what I mean?

[Jason Rodriguez]

She had to pay for everything.

[Mandy B]

The girl next to her ordered the calamari that she thought was jellyfish. And then, yeah, she. She didn't. She didn't eat the. The salmon tartare at all.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The fact that she thought it was jellyfish makes me wonder has she ever seen a jelly fish before?

[Mandy B]

She just know it's singu. You got to stay away from cartoons. But that's what I'm saying. When you think of even a drawing, jellyfish, squid, octopus, they all. They all look the same.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But it's like with a jellyfish, tentacles.

[Mandy B]

Are not a monolith. People clear.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I would say all tentacles matter. All tentacles matter.

[Mandy B]

Anyways, you know what? I'm not staying here. I'm not staying here. We. We've already been ignorant.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Bar as hell, though. For people who don't have the food, that's. That's a tough one.

[Mandy B]

The small bites be wolfing these. It be whooping Yalls asses. All right, well, let's get into it. I did have a double down or take it back only because I wanted to know yalls thoughts before we get into politics briefly, because we're not staying there. We're going to get mostly into culture. But this clip circulating this week. This is the first episode of 2026 for Decisions, Decisions. And boy, were people in the comments.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Big in the comments.

[Mandy B]

Big in the comments.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I'm still getting the comments right now.

[Mandy B]

Like, wait, wait, did you see this one, though? This is for decision. They're big in the comments for select the big. I'm past all of them at that point.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, I'm just like, all right, so.

[Mandy B]

This was a conversation that wheezy and I had, and I wanted to bring it here to bring up to. To get a man's opinions on it because they are upset in the comments. This is a clip from episode. The first episode of 2026 of Decisions, Decisions. And can you play that for me, Jason?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Sir?

[Unidentified Female Producer]

This thumbnail is extremely Maddie, but I mean Mandy, by the way.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

So what you're telling me is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

All right, here we go.

[Mandy B]

This is how.

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

Sounding like prostitutes.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, my God.

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

Home girl's been dating a dude maybe a month and a half. He's paying for the hotel. The hotel is about $700 a night. I was like, oh, you got your outfits ready? She was like, girl, I don't even know if I'm going on Tuesday. I was like, why? She was like, cuz this get my flight to the Turks. And I'm like, but he got your flight back with you. You're flying from somewhere else. He's not flying with you. So she's like, yeah, but he planned the trip for us without getting my flight. And I'm like, bro, how much is the flight to get to the Turks from where you at? 380. Right? So she lets him know. He's like, to be quite honest with you, it actually didn't cross my mind because I assumed we were booking our flights together. What I will tell you though, I'm very bothered by the fact that you wouldn't even jump on a plane to come for this trip I planned for.

[Mandy B]

If your friend actually like this. 380 wouldn't have. It wouldn't have even been a thing. The real fact of the matter is she don't really like this.

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

That's not true, bro. She's hella excited about him. Every post on her close friend.

[Mandy B]

I'm saying this is. This is the root of when we.

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

Started really arguing on the call. I'm like, you went through the whole group chat to tell us how great this guy is, how smart he is, how thoughtful. You got the hotel you wanted, the driver. The driver that like that you didn't need.

[Mandy B]

When a woman experiences something and really likes it, anything less than that is settled.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Why she ain't just asked for the.

[Mandy B]

Because she don't really like.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well, I'm not gonna lie.

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

That's not it. Mandy.

[Mandy B]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I feel like that might be it too, bro.

[Mandy B]

Get you that's gonna do what you want.

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

This lotties hoes, it's gonna have nobody.

[Mandy B]

And it's okay to have nobody until the right one come.

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

Why does the right one need to.

[Mandy B]

Do every single thing?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Okay. 20, 26. Wow.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Ball, yo.

[Mandy B]

Double down or take it back. There were a lot of thoughts from this.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Of course, of course.

[Mandy B]

And I think that I will do both. I am still going to double down in the fact that I do believe that once you are given certain things from partnership or relationships or in dating, that accepting less than that is settling. So like hear me out, hear me out. Okay? If you are a woman who has experienced a man who shows up with flowers, who book, let's make it small, right? Who plans dates, who shows up on time who is considerate of your successes in your professional setting. To me, if those are things that you like that you've already gotten for you to be with a man who doesn't exhibit those things, you are settling with a man because you feel like this is the bar. Because I've already received it. Now, I get that there's women out here expecting things from niggas that they never got before. The bills paid, the full, all expense paid trips, but never got it. Can't afford it themselves. For a woman, though, who has experienced certain. Certain things, I don't think that it's a bad thing when they decide if a man can't show up this way, it's not enough for me. However, there was a bar dropped that I did also see get picked up in the comments that, yes, I don't believe that a woman should remain single until a man checks off all the boxes, because I think that's unrealistic.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Sure.

[Mandy B]

However, I do think that it is okay for a woman, and I'm going to stand on this one. It is okay for a woman to, if she is not satisfied with what she's getting out of this situation or what a man is bringing to the table, for her to walk away and not feel like she's subjected to this person just for the sake of dating being hard or it being rough out here or the Pickens being slim, like, so I'm gonna stand on it. And for all of y' all thinking that a woman being single is just so terrible, it's not the same way you fucking mothers and fathers keep acting.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like having kids are so much fun.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah. No, no, no, no.

[Mandy B]

I don't think so.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, two. Two things. I'll say.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

We don't say fun. We say rewarding.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And that's a very different thing. Huh? That's a very different thing. Fun and reward. Rewarding. So two things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The word is, like, defined, is doing a lot of heavy lifting. Like, you saying that the woman is settling.

[Mandy B]

Oh, okay.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Does she. Is she settling or does she feel like she's settling? Okay, Cook.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Because.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Because is settling. A suggests like, oh, why are you even with this person? How did you get to this point with this person to know even how to get to this point? So to me, you kind of already understand what's going on. And so if you feel like you're settling, to me, that's something you got to examine yourself about. Why do I have this emotional reaction to the fact that the man is doing whatever thing that I think I'm Supposed to be getting.

[Mandy B]

Now, I want to ask y' all then. And I don't know if y' all have offered. Jason, we know you're married, but I don't know if there's been the offer in your past.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You've already given up on yourself.

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

Exactly.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Jason is defined.

[Mandy B]

I wanted to know if. Because another part of my, you know, opinion on this that that didn't make the clip was that this could have possibly been a test. Now, when I say a test, clearly he was telling the girl to buy her one way there. He would pay for the one way back. And when it comes to men with money or just wanting to make sure a woman wants him for him and not just what he brings to the table in terms of finances, men will often kind of put a test in there. And I want to know a. If any of y' all have ever tested a woman in terms. No. So then I would like. I would like to know then how y' all have given a woman a test and if she passed or failed it.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I personally don't really believe in.

[Mandy B]

Thank you, J. Thank you. This ain't class.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You don't. Like, you don't get to find out what kind of person I am via manipulation. Oh, yeah, like. Like that's not how you find out my character or what's going on. Like, yeah, life is going to present situations where you'll find out what somebody is really, really on. It'll always show itself in various ways. Just keep living. And if you with this person in your life, things will go on. And you'd be like, oh, I thought you would have did this if you really me you didn't. So I don't need to like Inspector Gadget my way through some to try to figure out whether or not also, if I'm gonna test you, like, I don't think the 380 is the real test. If you're tricking off how he salad he's shook it off. Like, I don't think the 380.

[Mandy B]

I don't use that word tricking. You know that. That's a sense.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Okay, that's a loaded term.

[Mandy B]

What can he say? Over tricking. That's a sensitive word.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Why sk skip a good word when it's right there?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

If you are spending your funds in.

[Mandy B]

In.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

In the process of courting a woman. Like, if you're willing to spend that kind of money.

[Mandy B]

Not willing.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It ain't tricky financial appropriate.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But I don't think, like, I'm gonna need. If you're gonna test Somebody. I need a bigger test than 380 bucks.

[Mandy B]

What? What would be a bigger test?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Something that's more valuable than that. Like that to me, that's not really a good. Oh, does she want me for me? Oh, yeah. She was willing to spend $380 to go on a $20,000 vacation for me. Like, no. Like, that's not.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But what's the expectation of that trip, though?

[Mandy B]

That's what I said too, cuz I had to ask.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I said, what's the price?

[Mandy B]

I said, have they yet? Cuz they were just dating.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And I was like, yeah, yeah.

[Mandy B]

I was like, was he expecting. For the fly out?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I can see?

[Mandy B]

And I said that.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But that's doing a lot. Just for.

[Mandy B]

The.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Just for the.

[Mandy B]

God damn.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Inflation is a.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I feel like my. My card was debited hearing this shit.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, we trying to hold.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We trying to hold. And this guy's like, one way we.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Go, nigga, you can go over here.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You can go downtown. It's a new hotel.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

It's a brand new hotel.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Brand new.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

It's not weird that he said. It didn't cross my mind. Like, he did all that planning, put all that bread up a drive.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That is a weird response to that.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

That didn't cross my mind. That's weird.

[Mandy B]

Ladies, just know that a King and J will be taking y' all to Jonesboro. Y. Y' all ain't going nowhere.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

All expense paid trip to Gwinnett County.

[Mandy B]

Bring your ass.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Damn, y'.

[Mandy B]

All. Y' all said all the way to the Turks. That wasn't necessary.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's just a lot.

[Mandy B]

Oh, my God. But yeah, I. I just. We. We didn't have much pushback from men on this. We did have Eden, but. And Wolf in the studio, but Wolf didn't have Mike, and I knew y' all would give me a laugh out of that. But, yeah, I doubled down and took that back. Isn't that a great way for me to take accountability at the top of 20, 26? Because I think I riding the fence. I doubled down. Yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's accountability.

[Mandy B]

Well, that's the start of me writing something. I'm not out here writing shit. Okay.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Crawl before we walk, right? January.

[Mandy B]

Baby. It's okay to waffle. Turn up in February.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Coffee season almost over.

[Mandy B]

Listen, apparently we ain't. We ain't had it here in Atlanta. Like, yeah, hoodie season. Like, it's giving fall still. We.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, you know, 6, 7, 6, 7, 6, seven.

[Mandy B]

Well, let's get into this is America. And for this one, I guess before we get into just because. Because we're talking again. Aiden Drake, a. And all the things with the rico. Before we get there, let's kind of get a little politicky with 2026 political predictions. Since we are still at the top of the year. Let's go down the list. What do we want to predict in terms of what we can expect or, or feel within, within this year of a second year of Trump, the hot Cheeto in office, in power? Dude, do y' all have any.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I mean, I think that. I think one of the things that we're probably going to see in 2026 is more like Republican infighting.

[Mandy B]

Oh, what is?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, I think that there are issues. I think there are issues within the Republican Party where it's kind of like people know that Trump isn't exactly a lame duck president yet. He's still got almost three whole years in office. But I think people understand there's a life after MAGA now. They're acting like there's a life after Maggot and that they need to kind of pivot themselves to be tolerable after all this is over. They're more willing to speak publicly against Trump. They're more willing to push back against his agendas publicly. They're more willing to use all the machinations of Congress to get things done that are more important than the Trump agenda.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And so I think as 2026 goes on and we go further into his presidency, I think you're going to see more of a decline within the party of the politicians themselves, of Trump support. Now, whether that trickles down to the voters or not.

[Mandy B]

Right.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's what we'll find out in November. Do voters still fuck with Trump that heavy?

[Mandy B]

Well, and I guess that's the other thing, too, Right. Trump said that if Republicans don't win, he believes he'll be impeached.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah. And that might be the most honest thing he ever said.

[Mandy B]

But he's also gotten away. But he did that, too.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's it. That's number one. This is number two.

[Mandy B]

But wasn't. Wasn't he impeached or, or up for. Well, he.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Technically.

[Mandy B]

And so I don't even think. I think even him saying that is. Is laughable because it hasn't done nothing.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, it's interesting that he brought that up because to your point. Yeah, it hasn't affected him in any real way. But he still seems worried about it.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no, no. He's wearing these impeachments like 50 wears, the getting shot like, I think I think him being up for impeachment for a third time and maybe getting away with it again is like it. I think it's, it's, it's, it's cementing him into this level of this dictatorship essentially that he's really leading here.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

I think he's dog whistling to maga so to try to get them to vote.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And this is, and this is why this isn't very important because it's all or nothing now. Because if there's no balance to what he's doing within the power structure in the House, bro, that next three years, I mean, the people don't respond.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You know, with their right to do so, man.

[Mandy B]

I mean, I think it's interesting and we talk about too, how the Democrats lean on an emotional tug right at the heartstring. And that's kind of what I've been seeing. Well, well. And I'm only saying that because it's something that's been definitely circulating in my algorithm is the continuous post on human life. And so there was just, there was just a white male who was posted who ended up dying because he had to choose between paying for his inhaler, he had asthma, or paying for rent. Right. And so as we're talking about what just happened with the lockout, the, the government shutdown that took place and them not holding strong was the rise in medical insurance and how it's impacting people. And Bernie Sanders said that because we didn't hold on to that government shutdown, specifically that 5 million Americans, Schumer, that we were looking at possibly 5 million lives being lost because they weren't able to pay for their medications or things like that because it's just not affordable. Health care is just not affordable in.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

This country and they don't have a plan for that.

[Mandy B]

Well, that's. So that's why I said there's not yet a plan. But I do think it's interesting that if we talk about propaganda and what they feed us in our algorithm. I've been seeing so many stories of just regular people passing away or dying because they couldn't afford the basic necessities of, of their medical needs because of the cost of it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

And then tying in there the cost of living where we still have, where you, in order to get in anywhere you need to make three times the rent. But we're also being told that AI is taking all these jobs and, and, and you know, we're not seeing a rise in people's salaries. It's just not happening. And so the Cost of living is just becoming like nothing's happening there. Nothing.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And, and that's what I mean. This midterms is going to be interesting for a lot of reasons because all of these, all those factors that you just laid out are going to be on voters minds.

[Mandy B]

And I'll tell you, we've been talking about the unfortunate passing of Anthony Joshua's two friends over in Nigeria. But I was just having this conversation with, with the, with this super, super nice Senegalese Uber driver the other day and we were talking about different parts of, of Africa and the countries and how it's ran. And for me one of the scariest things about Nigeria clearly isn't how they don't have. Now I'm learning that they don't have a good healthcare infrastructure over there either. But for me it was the like vast distinction between the haves and the have nots. Right. And so what I'm seeing here is now that push of a middle class leaving our own country, which to me is what makes this country so incredible. It makes me feel so seen and safe. Even from growing up to, to leaving corporate America, to making my own money. One of the things that made me feel the most unsafe was that stark difference between the haves and have nots when I visited Nigeria. And so seeing that we're in this position now where that's what's kind of happening here in our country where you're having to decide whether you get your asthma, you know, your asthma tank or you pay rent. It's scary.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And that should scare politicians. Like not, not even on. Like this isn't about promoting violence. But what I'm saying is that you can only push societies so far before there's a breaking point. Like and, and what? America hasn't really seen a breaking point in modern times.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We don't know.

[Mandy B]

What do you mean by that?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like we don't know what famine looks like in America.

[Mandy B]

You don't think, you don't think Covid gave us that.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Not the millions of people I think. I think it gave us an idea maybe of what it looked like. But things were still civilized to the, for the most part. Like there was still order, There was still some level of order.

[Mandy B]

The only reason why I just agree with that, the only reason why I disagree with that is only because we've seen to me the country be shook by multiple things that have caused, cause, divide. I mean we could literally go back to 9, 11 with, with the terrorist attack. We could go to me, the COVID we could go to the 2008 crash and economic crisis, the recession. I there they're skirting around this R word and being real coy with it. I think we've been in a recession for the last three years.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I think that's fair.

[Mandy B]

And so to me we've seen this shakedown take place and what, what I want to predict from a political landscape because what we've seen over the last five years is the, I don't want to say growth or I guess move of regulation being removed from weed. Right. And a lot of people who got locked up for weed charges finally being released because now it's, you know.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, some, some, some, not all. Biden gave some clemency to a lot to some, a good amount of folks.

[Mandy B]

But I wanted to turn this into. While we're talking about shifts in this economy, shifts in this country, to me seeing this RICO take place and having the conversation now at the top of the year, we were talking about Chauncey Billups and all of the, the coaches and between NBA, ncaa, all of the betting, we now have another RICO with steak, which is another gambling site. Drake academics, Aiden Ross streamers, rappers who apparently are tied in because these steak dollars that aren't real were being used to stream and go into musics which also lead into why Drake may have been the most streamed artist last year despite not really dropping anything that made any noise.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Jason, Damn, you said that.

[Mandy B]

How else can you. I didn't say that. I didn't say. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. People are saying. I'm saying what the people are saying. Y' all know Drake let me down. Y' all know how. Not how JCole let Nas down. Drake let me down. Okay. I thought he was coming to take, to take the crown.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Goddamn it.

[Mandy B]

He said all right y', all, I'm just going to hang out with this streamer and hang out in Australia.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, wo.

[Mandy B]

Jason, what exactly is happening? What is the overall consensus of what is happening with this RICO? Explain it to a 5th grader. Cuz yeah, some of our listeners probably don't dance past.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

So it's a class action lawsuit filed by two women in Virginia. Yep. Trying to get I think like $5 million in restitution. And you know, they, the RICO part of it is basically they're saying that Drake, Aiden Ross and there's this guy George Nuang who operates like a couple different popular Instagram accounts. They're saying that they did this organized activity to defraud people and you know, asking for tips on the stake platform. And they were converting those tips.

[Mandy B]

Yep.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Into like crypto to then allegedly, you know, purchase inflated streaming numbers.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Wow.

[Mandy B]

Now, I just wanted to have a quick conversation about how we think steak.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Is like a foreign Saudis.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The way. The way they rock, the way.

[Mandy B]

The way Saudi Arabia is coming in, about to take over every industry. Are you going to Saudi Arabia for, like, a gig?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, they're gonna give me a couple dollars. I. At this point, I don't think I can. Only because of the fact that it's like, why? Well, the question is, for me, not.

[Mandy B]

A solid like target.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

If you're Dave Chappelle and you can just eat the bad PR and don't give a.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

If you're a. That's not already rich and you go over there and you give up your dignity too fast, you don't have nothing to come back to.

[Mandy B]

Josh said, ask me this in 2027. When I get my money out, then I ain't gonna give a fuck about.

[Jason Rodriguez]

What y' all think.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Is that maybe I feel differently. Oh, wow.

[Mandy B]

What? What? What? What'd you find?

[Jason Rodriguez]

So Ed Craven.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Who was. Who's an Australian billionaire entrepreneur. He's a co owner.

[Mandy B]

That might make sense why Drake was over in Australia.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Dijan Tarani is Tarani. T, E, H, R A N. Look at you. That sounds being racist.

[Mandy B]

It doesn't.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Geographically.

[Mandy B]

That's not a real racist. He got a solid H. You know.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

What that H and M. You know what that means? He's defined. Yeah, he's defined.

[Mandy B]

That is crazy. You just said that.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Wait, so these are the owners of steak or the people who have the biggest vested interest in steak?

[Jason Rodriguez]

You said I'm being rich.

[Mandy B]

Okay, I get it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you can't.

[Mandy B]

But you're not allowed to say that, bro.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I'm just spelling his name.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You said, let me spell his name.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Can you guess who I was just giving.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Guess what he is Ovio Terani.

[Mandy B]

Huh?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

He looked like he could be ovr.

[Jason Rodriguez]

First of all, first of all, first of all, everybody knows when you read any online news article, newspaper, in your mind, everybody plays red, black, brown and yellow.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Who's that fellow?

[Jason Rodriguez]

We always do it. We always look at a name and then we always place them geographically.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

We should drop this one. We do.

[Mandy B]

Okay. Okay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So you want to see maga. Maga, Social media. A black story. And they be. Look, must be at your quesia.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah. See?

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And I'm like, fatigue.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The fatigue.

[Mandy B]

Okay. I'm not gonna lie. So you said if there's a H Or it's Muhammad. I know you think Muhammad too.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well, I said Tehran. I just wanted to make sure.

[Mandy B]

You said there was an H. I know. We heard silent H. A King.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No shout out to the Saudis.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

OVO habibi.

[Mandy B]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They're both from Australia.

[Mandy B]

When I see you're right, you're right. Because when I see that hard the win new joint.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You said that's probably why he was in Australia a lot.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what it's given offshore.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Offshore team. Offshore team.

[Mandy B]

Offshore team.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

And King is about to turn this into only murders podcast.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

He's on a fourth billionaire list too.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Maybe, I think maybe. Maybe it was just miscommunication and misrepresentation understanding of what that relationship looks like as far as what they could do.

[Mandy B]

Now. Now, aside from. Aside from Drake's relationship, when we talk about poisoning the communities. Right?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Poisoning. Speaking of poisoning the community.

[Mandy B]

Poisoning the community. I mean, will there at all be any, I guess recourse or discourse to like. We saw everyone get upset. Well, not even physical discourse. Right. We did see. And I don't know if you could look this up, Jason, but I'm. I'm relaying this to all of the people that lost money and the influencers that end up having to pay back some level of money for the suit Against Fire Festival. Right. So you had all of these influencers telling people to spend their money for this festival, and it was false. Now if you have this type of lawsuit, mind you, just in one state steak is across multiple states.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So we actually, actually look, it says it's illegal in Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. There's certain states that gambling is still not. That's why also prize picks. All of that promote in Jersey. You can't still. You. You can't have.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You can't fighting for that to get opened up in here. Because they want that too.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Texas too. They want that bad.

[Mandy B]

So. So I want to ask you, you guys, though, knowing that we're in this economic crumble, how we feel like this push for our community and the nation to get into this gambling addiction, how you compare it to a crack epidemic or how you compare it to other addictions. I literally am comparing this to the crack epidemic because it's gonna up these households that already Ms. Is bad.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Like poor communities that like when everybody was cheering for Nas when he got the casino bid in New York and it sucks. It's like, oh, come on, New Yorker.

[Mandy B]

You about to on Nas. You did not podcast. What are your thoughts on that?

[Unidentified Female Producer]

But still. But it's like casinos are, they're not good for lower income communities. Like there's just studies over a 50 year period. Like, and people will say like, oh, it'll get them jobs and they can work in casino. There's a small amount of people who are working in the casino, the rest of the community there who are gambling their paychecks to try to catch a lick. It's not good for them. You know what I mean?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, but we have self discipline as, as us.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Sure. Yeah, sure. When the CIA pours crack into the neighborhood.

[Mandy B]

Right.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

It's hard to have this.

[Mandy B]

I was about to say prohibition said they're not spending money on bottles no more, they're spending money on parlays.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But I think casinos, it's hard to.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Have discipline when there's an outside determining factor in force. Yeah, that's tipping the scale.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But you got to make money to walk in these places.

[Mandy B]

No, you don't. No.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I mean, no, no, no, no.

[Mandy B]

And that'll be the last 20.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Right. But they had a choice.

[Mandy B]

Oh, here we go.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

We got a king.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, honestly, look, Van La gonna come.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

From down around that corner.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Listen, we do have an option and choices to.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, here's what it is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Look, when I go play Powerball and Mega, right? Yeah, Powerball Mega.

[Mandy B]

Oh, and mega.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Mega Millions. Mega Millions. You play Maga Millions.

[Mandy B]

God damn.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like when I play Mega Millions, that shit went up $5. So you know what I do? I like, damn, I don't want to spend $5 on this one ticket. I advance to the Powerball because that's still $2.

[Mandy B]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I made a conscious decision. Oh, It's a good $3.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And I think that comes from a reasonable, logical place of how to.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But I could buy whitings and French fries for five for seven bucks.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yes.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Or I could go buy Tatar for 100.

[Mandy B]

Did you just say Tatar? Or call Mary. How do you say it?

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's still.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

We do have.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We adults, man. We got look through trial and error.

[Mandy B]

Did the slave adults have a choice?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I'm not leaning into that one.

[Mandy B]

How are you giving like 20?

[Jason Rodriguez]

You saying $20?

[Mandy B]

And then maybe they last because they think they can double it to 40. Like that's what, that's what gambling is. That's the addiction. The same way as a drug addiction. You fiend for the high. Like feeling the euphoric feeling. You just want to feel that. Again with gambling, if you've won once or you've Seen someone else win. You believe you could win too.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We're in a capitalistic society.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, also, but, but gambling, unlike other addictions, gambling addiction has it's, it's preying on two types of people.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Right.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Part of it is, yeah, you're preying on low income communities who are desperate just to feel some kind of relief. And they feel like, well, if I could get this couple dollars, this could relieve my situation in life. I'm up. The other person that is attacking is people that aren't worried about, oh, it's my last $20 is people who to your point, are addicted to that euphoria, that feeling of like, I got hundreds of thousands. I don't even. Drake doesn't need steak money.

[Mandy B]

He does.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

He's gambling because he's. Yeah, he's gambling. Him and Aiden Ross and these rich ass are gambling because they want to feel like winners.

[Mandy B]

But not only do they want to feel like winners, they're promoting this feeling, this euphoric feeling of winning. And then the people that don't have the hundreds of millions of dollars to lose also want to participate in it.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah. And so it's is a tough thing. And what I will say, I play parlays sometimes.

[Mandy B]

Okay, but have you won?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I've won once. And it wasn't, it was like $200. Like, I didn't.

[Mandy B]

What you paying penny slots?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, I put it, I put in his $5.

[Mandy B]

You got to put some more dollars.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Put it down.

[Mandy B]

You gota. You gotta bet big to win big.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But the funny part about what Jason was saying was that people cheered for Nas getting his casino and people killed Jay Z for not getting, for not getting it. Like he's trying to take the community.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I'm like, damn, Time Square is kind of crazy to have a casino.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

But he was a part of already the backlash when he was a 0.1% owner in the Nets and bringing that to, to Brooklyn.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, and this is another conversation, but Nas has been able to get away with the capitalist that they killed Jay Z for. Who?

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Because he's an investor.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

So he's doing all this. He can rap about Nvidia and all this and be like, yeah, that's dope. I would love cybertech.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, he got, he got the 200 bills for free.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But don't you think getting away is kind of harsh?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, I think he just making.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I think he. It's the pursuit of. Well, no, what he deems.

[Mandy B]

I think it's the hypocrisy of the reality.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Nobody Is like I haven't heard not a single person.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You said this is a dark. This is, this is marvel. I'm gonna tell you why, because I just had a thought. We see people give their last every Sunday in tithes.

[Mandy B]

Oh not you bringing it to the church. Oh boy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

There's circumstances changing.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

That's gambling.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's gambling.

[Mandy B]

Faith based gambling.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Ooh, you said that. You said that. He said Dark ak no.

[Mandy B]

Ties and offerings is gambling with faith.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Said they playing Bible blackjack over there. That we know people, we know people.

[Jason Rodriguez]

In our families or Jace that we've seen. Sure they yo, I gotta pay my ties because. And you like damn. But you just got an outstanding bill.

[Mandy B]

That you ain't got.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You ain't got it?

[Mandy B]

Oh yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You ain't got it. Yeah. I mean no, there's, there's definitely something Bible blackjack. But, but there, but the reaction to how people are looking at Nas in these situations, how they're looking at Jay Z is very, very.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I think because Jay Z's out the gate. Been on that type of.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, but it goes back to like, like, like is it Uchi. Wally.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Wally, we're not doing that.

[Mandy B]

It's like.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

What is like what is it for real? And so only.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So if he was a degenerate rapper then it would have been.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah. If Nas was. Wasn't kicking the knowledge. And, and he can still kick knowledge. Sure he can. But what I'm saying is that while you're kicking knowledge, you're also a hardcore capitalist and that seems to be what people are railing against.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Is he a hardcore.

[Mandy B]

Oh absolutely.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I think he's taking advantage of the opportunity.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Of course he is. But that doesn't make you not a capitalist.

[Mandy B]

Facts.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But what, but what if he's taking that money and pouring back in which.

[Mandy B]

He might be but he's pouring into the community. That essentially going to have a negative impact on the lower income community.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well that area queen is Queens and.

[Mandy B]

That area Russia at right?

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, it's a South Ozone park. But it has, it has. The casino is up there already.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

They just, they just expand, expand, make it bigger. Right, Interesting.

[Mandy B]

All right, well we're, we're talking celebrity talk here and I kind of want to lighten it up a little bit.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Okay.

[Mandy B]

And have you really say these can't wear this because the way that you're going aing they had a choice. No.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And I think we should, we should honestly.

[Mandy B]

And they made the wrong one.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Aiden Ross, in my opinion. Let's remove on from him. No, I'm just saying it culturally. I love what I show speed is doing. You know what I'm saying?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That we should be amplifying and talking about and elevating.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Actually doing dope.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Aiden Ross is not culture.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, he's not.

[Mandy B]

No. Y' all are hoping he gets got with this. Rico heard you. All right, well. And celebrities say the darnest things, y'. All. We're gonna get into what the Internet has been ablaze talking about for the past, like, two to three weeks. It started off with Dr. Umar. You might have to believe. I don't know. I was gonna say Dr. Cheyenne Bryant, but that's still up for debate. Love you, Cheyenne. I'm telling you, I want to see where that. Where that doctor degree came from.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, oh. She's like a crack doctor.

[Mandy B]

I don't know. But she's a life coach. I just don't know where the doctor with the doctor.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Okay.

[Mandy B]

And then when I looked it up, the school no longer exists. But I was. You know what's crazy? I like what she doing, though. I like what she doing as a content creator. As a woman. I just like that she got a voice. I like what she doing as a content creator.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

A net positive life. Right. Like, Jay Shetty done lied and he's helping a lot of people.

[Mandy B]

That's crazy.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

So that's crazy.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Was he not a perspective?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I don't.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I think he might have been understood.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But there's no Monk Deshetti.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Designation.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

He's a college dropout.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

This.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah. They're saying that he was lying about his college education and certain things.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

He dropped off the line.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But he helped. He's helping a lot of people. So ultimately, like, net positive. Like, I don't care about you.

[Mandy B]

The that was in Atlanta giving these composite veneers is going to jail. But he helps a lot of people without being served. Fortified. He got the rico. Y' all saw that.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I think somebody.

[Mandy B]

Somebody said, you know what? Well, let's get into the thoughts. Basically, what the Internet has been ablaze about is of Two women, both Dr. Cheyenne Bryant and what she wore to the Jeezy concert right before the New Year's.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Amen.

[Mandy B]

And also Caris Bryant, who is the wife of Atlanta pastor Jamal Bryant, who drew attention. No, they're not related.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, really? Damn. Okay. I was confused about that whole thing.

[Mandy B]

She also drew attention with her flesh colored dress that she wore to the annual United Negro College Fund mayor's mask ball right here in Atlanta. And he chose to take to the Pew to call the Internet and all the naysayers out about what he put his wife in. But the clip that I wanted to play before we get into thoughts on this was from Bishop Patrick Wooden of North Carolina's Upper Room Church of God in Christ. What he had to say, you can't say.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Somebody gave their last to his ties too.

[Mandy B]

And they did. Jason, if you want to pull up the clip for what he had to say in response, I think we heard enough about what people had to say about Cheyenne Bryant. But let's, let's lean into this one before we share our thoughts.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Sure.

[Jason Rodriguez]

When he defended her dress by saying.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

First of all, he bought the dress.

[Mandy B]

Oh. And he did. And then he said, I want to.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Address people who don't know anything, who haven't been anywhere or know nothing. So I guess our objection to a man of the cloth presenting his wife in public looking like a two dollar whore.

[Mandy B]

A two dollar whore. At least two.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I said, yeah.

[Mandy B]

He said, oh. He wanted to make sure y' all knew it was $2 and nothing. Not a cent more. $2.

[Jason Rodriguez]

The bigger the nose, the greater the truth.

[Mandy B]

Now. Now with both of these, you have Dr. Cheyenne Bryant, who holds the esteem of the Dr. Label, who gives relationship advice. I'm trying to explain why the people. It was good.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

It was good.

[Mandy B]

And then you have the first lady of the of a down south mega church, which is new birth Pastor Jamal Bryant's church. And pretty much the sentiment is that both women were not dressed appropriately and unfortunately should be deemed a, a, a a takedown of how the community should respect them, how people should listen to them, how they, you know, don't deserve to be heard anymore based on these decisions and their clothing. And I kind of wanted to hear yalls thoughts. I'll, I'll share mine. First off, which y' all are going to be so shocked because I am here for the and the hive and how people present themselves. I think a woman should be able to wear whatever. But I also agree there's certain things that you put on that unfortunately it don't matter what we say, what we do, the congregation and society and the world will judge you on. And for me, again, Dr. Sham Bryant, beautiful lady, didn't hate the outfit, just thought it wasn't styled well. So for me, I don't hate the look of the outfit. I just don't. I think she should have wore black under it. The green didn't make sense.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Sense.

[Mandy B]

And in terms of Carrie Bryant's dress, men, I think are just, they don't know about materials. It definitely was flesh colored. Her skin was not showing. It was lace over a nude goddamn material.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Right.

[Mandy B]

It literally. You couldn't see nothing. Yeah, I don't. I'm not a fan of the outfit of. Of Dr. Cheyenne Bryant here. I think she still look good as like, I Cheyenne, you bad. You know, I think we Eskimo sisters. I. That's what I call her when I. When we in the room. I be like, what's up, Eskimo sister?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I'm sure she know who you talking about reference to that.

[Mandy B]

I'm just sure we've knocked down the same.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Hey, at some point, I feel like.

[Mandy B]

We the same tribe. We probably the same tribe of. We are Eskimo sisters. We have not discussed who it is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Why think you the same? See.

[Mandy B]

Cuz, these. These niggas just giving it out. Hey, listen, they just giving it that. Anyways, I did want to know your thoughts though, before we get into to hip hop talk real quick. Just if y' all had any thoughts on this, just cause the Internet was going, y' all are men. Go ahead.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't think that. No, I don't think we got a right to call them hoe.

[Mandy B]

No, I don't think we should call them hoes.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But as far as what they wearing, again, I go back to the theme. Everybody got a choice.

[Mandy B]

Ooh.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You know, I'm looking at the video and I'm looking at what other people are wearing. She's the most. She's the one that most provocative. So I think that her thing was like, yo, so this was intention. Like, I'm gonna be the showstopper now.

[Mandy B]

I want to ask y' all because I want to lean into ignorance here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Is there anywhere. So she went to a Jeezy concert, which was like an orchestra. It was. That's what it was supposed to be. Like, black tie event.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Right.

[Mandy B]

And then you have Carrie Bryant. Is it Carrie?

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Carrie, yeah.

[Mandy B]

Carrie Bryant who went to church. No, Went to a gala.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The gala.

[Mandy B]

So this is where I want to get ignorant.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Ball.

[Mandy B]

Ball. Remove it from the gala. Remove it from a black tie. Unless that's your answer. Is there anywhere that you guys walk into that you do judge somebody by what they're wearing based on where you're at? Like, for me, this is going to be problematic. And I don't give a. I don't care. Bonnets and pajamas. Oh, keep them at my airport.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You know what's funny?

[Mandy B]

Keep them out. Mandy, you already think that y' all shouldn't be Flying, yo. Because you know what I mean? Like there is just a way.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Me and Delta.

[Mandy B]

Me and the Delta CEO.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Real Delta CEO.

[Mandy B]

But to me the bonnets and the pajamas should not be worn at the airport.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yo, my mom hates that.

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

I hate it.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

She hate pajamas at the grocery store is not my jam.

[Mandy B]

Pajamas at the grocery store. I don't love it.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I don't even believe in like sandals and like Birkenstocks and. And like in public, like oh, in public because for me he said keep.

[Mandy B]

The burger stock in your home.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And honestly like this is more for men than for women. Honestly. But like like if you gotta run to go somewhere, like you're gonna fall the out of them like little flappy ass shoes and bust your ass, whatever. Like that to me she said if.

[Mandy B]

You gotta run from the cops.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah. That is not that it's not practical but like as far as like. So first off, these two dresses are very different dresses.

[Mandy B]

They are like.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like like the. The sledge color dress. I don't have no problem with. You can say, oh well she looks naked. And what she is is two different things. So like to me it's like she's not naked. Yeah. Shut the up now. Cheyenne dress was a little bit like that uterus. Okay, like I see your fallopian too.

[Mandy B]

You got.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Tuck that back in.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, yeah yeah. Like what the going on? But also like I guess my thing about it is I get she's a. She is. Wait, wait. This is why I'm clear. She's married to a pastor. Or she is. Carrie is right. Carrie is.

[Mandy B]

Cheyenne out here trying to. Trying to fishing.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

So wait, so if she's not. If Cheyenne is not connected to the church, what are. What exactly are we Carious. Thank you, Carrion.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Say that again. Keep saying.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

If she's not connected to the church and she's not like what are we talking about as far as how.

[Mandy B]

Because it wasn't. Because it wasn't from the church much perspective with her. It's the fact that she's a doctor. A doctor should not be dressed this way whether in public or anywhere.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Because it's also what she says too.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Right?

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Because. Because she holds men to task.

[Mandy B]

Yes.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

And about how they present themselves to.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Right.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Get into a relationship. Then she turns around and dresses people. People are trying to draw.

[Mandy B]

You can't speak this way and then.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Go out dressed like go out and do that.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I do think there should be a standard. I think we protect the standard.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

The fact that he said define.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But the thing is.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

What's the standard? Do we. Do we. Are we just standard list now?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, there's.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Because we can dress however we want to do what we want to do.

[Mandy B]

Oh, this sounds real simple.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Because.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Because you know what?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

King Vance over there. No, don't do that.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, because, look, at the end of the day, guess what? The shorties is looking at us famous. What are the standard we holding for this? For the little ones?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Everybody gonna be. I mean, like. Well, the standard. To me, the standard is if you 11, you can't be naked. If you're 111, you can be as naked as you want to be.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, that's true too, but.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And also, where are you going? Like, the standard for what's. Like, if we. If we. If we come in here in this studio, there might be a quote unquote standard, even for a pot. We're in a corporate building.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. I mean, you can't sit here and put your dick on the table. Yeah. Be doing. That is crazy.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That is a wild boy.

[Mandy B]

The fact that they had to tell him to put his little gummy dick away like that is inappropriate.

[Jason Rodriguez]

By the wave. Shout out to the wave.

[Mandy B]

That's crazy. Wait, didn't you say that when you was running loudspeakers that somebody brought in some new somebody else? Oh, sorry, was.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, oh, oh, the ignorant demographic.

[Mandy B]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Another. Another episode.

[Mandy B]

But yeah, he.

[Unidentified Male Contributor]

He.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You know, when I was helping him out, bringing him into this podcast space, he didn't let me know he was gonna do this, but he had some girls there that was of a particular profession, not of us, and, you know.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

One might say the oldest profession.

[Jason Rodriguez]

He's a very unpredictable person.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Some people called him Santa Claus.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And next thing you know, he had.

[Jason Rodriguez]

These girls, you know, perform on this random dude.

[Mandy B]

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I still have that.

[Mandy B]

I thought they were getting naked.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This girl was telling her story why she became a sex worker.

[Mandy B]

Okay?

[Jason Rodriguez]

She was all dolled up. I think she was Dominican and Puerto Rican and Italian, whatever. But some random dude from Connecticut, I believe. And I'm watching, I'm like, who is this nigga?

[Mandy B]

Queen Flip invited him in.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, it was all planned, but he just didn't let me know he was doing this shit. So then homeboy pulls up and I'm like, what is the correlation? So anyway, they talking to him.

[Mandy B]

Wait, were you the engineer for this?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I was producing it, but I didn't know he was doing all this shit.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Right. So then.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And it's the first Time taping. Mind you, that's a hell of a lot. He wasn't. And he wasn't part of loudspeaker, but he was recording where. Yeah, we were recording it, right? And the dude comes in the room and. And then he says, yo, remember what we said, what I told we was gonna do? And then it's like, what? So while she's talking and whatever, this dude sit next to her. And then she's taking. Pulling, you know, she started.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

She needed a different microphone.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She started trying to get him off. But the problem was. I don't know, because it was crazy. I'm saying it.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Performance anxiety.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yes. There you go.

[Mandy B]

He wasn't getting hard. Paused.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She got frustrated. No, no, no. I was trying to figure out, how.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Do I stop for the emergency break.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So then what happened when she got so frustrated, right? And the manager. She had a manager. Yo, why? The manager was like, step aside. I got this. She got to business.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Wait, the manager.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I got.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I'll show you. I show. I have the video.

[Mandy B]

You having the footage is crazy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, because it was shoddy. It was recording in real time. So it was like, what? So lo and behold, that happened. He put the clip out as a teaser promote. But they blurted out, and then the studio got wind of it, and they was like, nah. They was like, take your money. If we know we was gonna do that, we would have told you off top. And it was at the time they had children used to do voiceover work there.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So we're like, that can't you remember?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Right?

[Jason Rodriguez]

So mind you, this is 2017, 2018. So mind you, what I said before. Standard. What is the standard that we're setting? So in his point of view is let me do enough shock value to get attention to what I'm getting ready to jump into versus safety, versus all the other things. Right. But it's like, it. You didn't need to do that, in my opinion.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Well, like, what? This. The.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I'm glad you remember that.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The Cheyenne. The sh. Wait, Cheyenne is the naked one.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

So Cheyenne Bryant, the real naked one.

[Mandy B]

Right.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

She was at the Jeezy concert.

[Jason Rodriguez]

There you go.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Life coach.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So, like, if I'm at the Jeezy concert, I'm definitely not listening to Jeezy.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I'm like, yeah, like, no, no, no.

[Mandy B]

By the way, it's something that I want to do. I know. He has his residency now in Vegas.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Everyone that has gone to that Jeezy orchestra has said it's by far the best live show that they've seen their entire life.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No. Yeah, I talked to. Oh, yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But she had a tail, so you couldn't see her booty, man. So that's intentional.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But you had a Jeezy show. Like, I don't think there's any. I don't think that's inappropriate for a Jeezy show.

[Mandy B]

It's black tie. That's inappropriate for black tie.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Okay. It's not a black tie. Okay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's not.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That's not a. That's not a black. That's not a black tie.

[Mandy B]

But it's definitely a Vegas outfit, and she was in Vegas, so.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm not. I'm not mad at her for that. I don't see what the problem is. Plus, like, I ain't going to lie.

[Mandy B]

She look good.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

She look great.

[Mandy B]

She look good.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

She look great. Like, okay, whatever black on black would have been.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Would have been fly to your point.

[Mandy B]

To me, it was just the styling of it.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I'll say this, though. I had. I think I have a bigger issue with, like, the. The pastors doing the back and forth from the pull pit about this than I do with how either of the ladies are dressed.

[Mandy B]

Me, too. I agree.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Because to me, it's like, the problem.

[Mandy B]

Is always the men.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The defense sense of. I get that. That Jamal Bryant wants to defend his wife, and that's cool. Defend your wife. But, like, he was basically like, y' all and broken. Don't know nothing about this.

[Mandy B]

That's exactly what.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

So, like, that. You sound crazy as a pastor, like, talking like that in defense of your.

[Mandy B]

He said, y' all ain't never been to a gala. Y' all don't know how to dress right.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I'm like, you're just telling people that. Like, that's there. That whole is crazy.

[Mandy B]

Give me your money every week, but you ain't got enough to give to go to a gala.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And then for the other pastor. Mind your business.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Why you beefing with me? Like, you talking about podcast wars. Why are we having pulpit war? Why are you talking about me and my wife from your pulpit? Talk about God. That's what you here for.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Keep money.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, I should slap fire out of you for even doing that.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And so, like, I. I think being a pastor might be the cheat code.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

To just get to just.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That might be the new rapper, rapper, new podcaster.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I mean, but that's also part of the thing. Like, these wanted to be celebrities. These wanted to be stars.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, if. If, you know, if you want to be a pastor, Star a pastar, then that makes you.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Right.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, you want to be a pastar and eat tartar.

[Mandy B]

That's what you want.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like, that might make you look a certain kind of way to your congregation.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I ain't gonna lie. I don't want to go to no church in Atlanta.

[Mandy B]

I. I told you. I went to one and ended up seeing a goddamn Netflix commercial for a Tyler Perry show.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You see?

[Mandy B]

Yeah, I think I'm cool on it, too.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

The whole thing is weird. Like, so we went to. Last weekend, we went to a church. I never been to one of these, like, modern church. Like, for me, church is the I is like, like an old ass church that's built in the 60s with a bunch of black people, old black ladies with hats. Like, that's like going as a little kid. That's a church I went to. I don't know nothing about these modern churches. I don't really go to church. Like, mega. So last weekend we went to this church called Passion City Church.

[Mandy B]

No, you didn't.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, so Passion City. Yeah, so. Because it's across the street from the crib. And my girl was just like, oh, look, just. Let's go to church. Let's just see what this thing is about. So we went up in there and like, it felt like the white version of P Valley, of a black with a black mega church.

[Mandy B]

Passion City.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

It's production. Like, they come out singing.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Like, it's like a Disney singing. My prerogative.

[Mandy B]

Did y' all see. Did y' all see the viral thing that happened over the holidays from the mega church in Texas where they had, like, in that. It had, like, little people flying through the sky and like that.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, they had pyro and, like, it.

[Mandy B]

Looked like Chris Brown, but a little person with a little elf thing. Did you see it, Jason?

[Unidentified Female Producer]

I'm looking at it now.

[Mandy B]

You're looking.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah. This is like, it was real. Some cir c at the church.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's what a ti Offering night at the church.

[Mandy B]

Wait, what do you mean fight night? Like, what they do at the strip club.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Bro.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Oh, wait.

[Mandy B]

Oh, you're looking at Passion City.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, see, they got Jesus's life behind a Lambo. Wait, what was that?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Passion City Church. They got a whole boxing ring and everything.

[Mandy B]

Wow. That is insane.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, y', all.

[Mandy B]

I need y' all to Google Passion City.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yo, this look like how much they charge you get in?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No, no, but. But the way to sit is that they get. So the main church is in midtown, but they have satellites. They have a satellite in Cumberland.

[Mandy B]

And so I'm not gonna lie, I saw that too. There was a. There's a mega church here. And one of my friends hopped on and was like, I was trying to go to church, church for the New Year's. Apparently the church said, oh, we off this week, but we live streaming to everybody. So he went all the way to the church and the church didn't even hold. Hold the service at the church. They said, we live streaming to y' all from my living room today because I need a break.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I need to watch.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

I can't even make it tonight.

[Mandy B]

I can't even make it. Y'. All. Y' all missed the. Sorry. You should have checked your emails.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

I was at this birthday dinner with this girl who got shot in the face.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I couldn't even make it out there. Couldn't even make it in, player.

[Mandy B]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So it looked like money. She looked like money.

[Mandy B]

She looked like.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She looked like she.

[Mandy B]

He looked like he had enough money to snort a little.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

So at this church they had, I guess last weekend they had a thing called. They have like a festival basically in Texas. So they had a festival at like, I think it was at Cowboy Stadium or whatever the place is. They had like 70,000 people in the stadium and they're having speakers and singers and all of this come through and it's like, it's a. It's a real product. Yeah, that was the guy that was speaking, the ball headed guy.

[Mandy B]

That's the guy that was crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, look at it.

[Mandy B]

No, look at the production.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, the value production.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They hiring.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy B]

And Keith's like, I could do the audio mix over there.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, look at this.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, look at his nose.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Look like he invested in stage steak.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

That didn't mean more steak.

[Mandy B]

I'm not playing.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, they got yes.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

No. Yeah, full band. Like the whole thing.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We gotta see if we can do a selective ignorance live show there.

[Mandy B]

Never. Not the way we talk about churches. It's not gonna happen. It's not gonna happen.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

But here's a question I always ask though, like, and this isn't necessarily in defense of the mega church, but the question I always have is like, okay, if you have a church and you have that many members, like at a regular church that just has, you know, a couple a thousand people, 1500 people that come the past is probably going to have a Cadillac or a nice car. The pastor makes a couple dollars. If you have a church that's that big and that many people are coming to your essentially your business to patronize your Business.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You're probably gonna get rich.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

And so like my thing about it is like, what is the line? They're not taking a vow of poverty. These aren't monks or anything like that. So I guess my question is like when you have a church that big big, what is the line of how much you're supposed to. There's not capitalism profit financially from the thing if you have, if, if you're essentially have that many customers. I don't know what, I don't have a good answer for that.

[Mandy B]

You're not telling me that a person who gives gives the word also doesn't want to live a certain lifestyle?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Of course they do.

[Mandy B]

Hey. Hey. The church I, I, I used to go to when I was it, when I was a jit, he pulled up in the Hummer and this is when Hummers was one of the things. Yeah, one of them things. It was like not our pastor pulling up in the Hummer. It was like the H2. It was like the fancy.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

How much when I was a little, little kid, when I was legit, like our pastor had a bins and we had. It was a regular ass. Little regular ass black church in St. Louis. It wasn't even no mega church. So my thing about it is what church, what black church is the pastor broke. What black church do like I never seen one.

[Mandy B]

Well, that's, that's a deeper. We got to Evergreen saved. Why we don't see black broke pastor.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I don't care if it's a mega church or your regular community church. I ain't never seen no broke pastor who just out.

[Mandy B]

Here's the hypocrisy. Don't we want generational wealth within our community? Don't we want black people to win? Like, is it Ushi Wally or is it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Gucci? Wy on the mic now.

[Mandy B]

Now y'. All. This was a bonus episode. I know y' all were hoping to hear our thoughts on Jim Jones cam, the 50 beef and all that, but you know what you're going to have to do. Tune in next Tuesday to hear our thoughts on that. God damn it. Cuz that one we're talking and it's still developing. It is developing. I also really wanted us to break down and get into Jim's business. But also IP in this podcast space, especially at the top of the year with what's, you know, happening over at Iheart and Netflix and Charlemagne and all. And we did talk about it, but I want to talk specifically the other.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Day on Eyes Il with, with Ian Ian Schwartzman Very interesting.

[Mandy B]

Very interesting. I.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But we could save it.

[Mandy B]

I want you. So I need. That's everyone's homework. I think it just. It just dropped, like, yesterday or two days ago. I need everyone, even y', all listening, please. And these are my friends. So I want y' all to go listen. If you're into the space of. Of where creators, entrepreneurship, ownership, all of this is headed specifically within our community, head on over to ear.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Give a no.

[Mandy B]

But that's why do not party it. I want y' all to go on over to earn your leisure. Shout out to Rashad and Troy. They sat down with Ian Schwarzman, who is, to me, the brains behind the Joe Butter Network. But if y' all go and listen to that, I would love for us to deep dive into that in terms of even. We're. We're taking this to him to hip hop. So look up the. The history of the Dipset trademark. I want y' all to look into what Jim's building and also just what the rappers right now in the podcast space are doing. What we anticipate them doing and how we do essentially anticipated.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We anticipate them.

[Mandy B]

Here we go. Here we go, Here we go.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't know if I.

[Mandy B]

Well, you are shady, y'. All.

[Jason Rodriguez]

A key said I'm looking forward to. I will tell you, the one I'm looking forward to is Uncle Murder and Tony. I am looking forward to that.

[Mandy B]

All right. I don't know how much I want to hear New York talk. I'm having a problem.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You said you want to look behind the business dealings of Jim Jones.

[Mandy B]

Oh, chill out. That's my homie now. Not too much.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So why we can't talk about Tony and Uncle.

[Mandy B]

We're gonna do it from a place of love. That's why.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

She don't love them, too.

[Mandy B]

I ain't got no personal relationships. That's another thing. The hypocrisy of bias, baby.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

It pulls up, everybody got.

[Mandy B]

You just know I'm parking the car in the. In the bias spot next week.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Everybody's got to buy somewhere.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, I mean, I. Hey, we're on the Black Effect network. If you. Y. Y' all know what sign we rolling with over here. Shout out to Charlemagne and his $200 million deal.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

We hope.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Yeah, let me hold five.

[Mandy B]

Let me hold, baby, let me hold.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Like.

[Mandy B]

We'll get into that next Tuesday, actually. Y' all check that out. Other than that. Oh, and then also, it gives us time, too, to watch the. The ti. I'm gonna buy it.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I do I do want the hypocrisy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Of people.

[Mandy B]

We gonna lean into.

[Jason Rodriguez]

TI Is wrong with people, bro.

[Mandy B]

A lot of things.

[Jason Rodriguez]

A lot of things shout out to TI Man.

[Mandy B]

You know, it's like they. Do you want an echo chamber? Do you want someone to step out and try something new? What is it?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Don't critique that you haven't watched or experienced. Start there. Yeah. Everybody chiming in and haven't watched it.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

This is why I'm having experience.

[Mandy B]

Oh, next Tuesdays we gotta do.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

And King just took a whole shot at the whole entire podcast.

[Mandy B]

You know what?

[Aaron A. King Howard]

I just pretty much.

[Mandy B]

Is it Uchiwali or 1M think I don't like that. Six, seven.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

Oh, yeah, yeah, it is 67. J.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Don't entertain.

[Mandy B]

Let's get on. All right. Well, y', all, yet another good episode. I hope y' all enjoyed this conversation with my super producers and journalism.

[Jason Rodriguez]

J, we g. We gonna get active in the. In the Discord, too.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, man, come get up in there.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

We come with y', all, man.

[Mandy B]

So I'm going add them. I'm going to give them the link. If you guys want the link to join us in on episode feedback and am I ignorant? And all the things. Again, something else we'll get into next week. On next Friday's episode, we'll do some more Am I ignorant? But join us on the Discord. And to do that, you have to join our Patreon for as little as $5 a month. You get ad free content, so you get the audio ad free. You get the video ad free and you get the video to this episode. All bonus episodes are not up on YouTube, but they are on the Patreon. So if you like to watch this content, make sure you join us over on the Patreon. It's patreon.com backslash with MandyB. And again, make sure you follow my super producers as well as ja. Their information is not only in the description of this episode, but JA, tell the people where they can follow you because I love your name on all socials.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

You can find me on the Instagram Mr. Hip Hop Obama. You can find me on threads the same way you can find me on Twitter at Hip Hop Obama.

[Mandy B]

That's right. And I'm really happy y' all will soon find him on his own podcast.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

How about we gonna roll that on?

[Mandy B]

How about, you know, we. We. We getting his feet wet. Opening it up, up a little bit, you know, pause. Not opening you up too much.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Not too much.

[Mandy B]

Not like, you know.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hey, y.

[Aaron A. King Howard]

This whole thing has gone completely off the rail.

[Mandy B]

It did.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Okay, guys, talk about Trump not parting in. He said he's not going to hold it.

[Mandy B]

You know what? We. We might have to just. Next week, y'. All. Hope you enjoyed this episode, this bonus episode of Selective Ignorance, where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter. See you next week. You see, I can say I'm in. With endearment. With endearment. Bye, guys. Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Unidentified Female Producer]

Thanks for tuning in to Selective Ignorance of Mandy B. Selective Ignorance is executive produced by Mandy B. And it's a full Court Media Studio production with lead producers Jason Rodriguez. That's me. And Aaron A. King Howard. Now, do us a favor and rate, subscribe, comment and share wherever you get your favorite podcast. And be sure to follow Selective Ignorance on Instagram at Selective Ignorant. And of course, if you're not following our host, Mandy B. Make sure you're following her at Fullcourt Pumps. Now, if you want the full video experience of Selective Ignorance, make sure you subscribe to the Patreon. It's patreon.com selective ignorance.

[Mandy B]

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