On this special episode of Deep Cover, Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone are joined by ex-Colombo crime mobster turned motivational speaker Michael Franzese. He shares his personal testimony about the ways in which “the life” negatively impacted him and his family. Son to the notorious former underboss, Sonny Franzese, Michael was not only born into the life but contributed for nearly 20 years prior to incarceration which prompted his uncharacteristic exit.

Michael and Joe met in their separate endeavors along the way and detailed the extent of their relationship then and now. Tune in for a true tale about the Mafia life from one of their very own.

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Episode Notes:[00:47] Intro with Leo Rossi and Joe Pistone

[01:07] Introduction to Michael Franzese

[03:09] Franzese speaks on his meeting with Salvatore "Sammy the Bull" Gravano

[05:00] Joe remembers his first time meeting Michael Franzese in “the life”

[06:32] Michael Franzese breaks down how he and his family were impacted by the mob life.

[09:04] Franzese shares the story of his father, Sonny Franzese, who was imprisoned until 100 years old.

[11:36] What defines a leader?

[12:35] Franzese, Joe, and Leo discuss the relationship between crime mob and cops

[15:03] Franzese shares his relationship with Bernard “Bernie” Welsh

[16:47] Sonny Black’s girlfriend relays a message to Joe post-trial

[18:14] Franzese gives Joe his flowers

[20:09] How did Carmine “Junior” Persico run the family from prison?

[23:22] Michael Franzese’s dad agreed with the mob's decision to put a contract on his son’s life

[24:37] Nicky “Glasses” Marangello has a message for Donnie

[26:52] Leo shares a story about Carlo Gambino and the new age of mobsters

[29:47] The old neighborhoods just aren’t the same

[31:26] Michael Franzese speaks on his recent book, “Mafia Democracy”

[35:02] Franzese shares the similarities between the government and the mob

[38:04] Franzese went into business with an Armenian vineyard

[40:00] Outro

[40:26] Questions from the motion lounge

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