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Tom Schwartz (0:00)

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Sydney Kane (0:04)

For your weekly Retox with Tom Schwartz.

Podcast Host/Interviewer (0:08)

Gang, what is up today on the show? The lovely Sydney Kane. She's an NYC based actor, singer, comedian, writer, but she has a show coming up in LA. It's called wife material. I'm going February 16th. She's got something special cooking.

Sydney Kane (0:27)

I'm a straight passing by. No one ever thinks I'm into girls. Only guys.

Podcast Host/Interviewer (0:40)

Yes, I am gonna go sit down with her. Well, I was supposed to sit down with her at the iconic Belmont in West Hollywood. It is a landmark, historic location. If you've ever watched Vanderpump Rules, you, you know it, even if you don't know it. We've filmed there so many times, so many momentous occasions. How about a little forward from the legend executive producer, 32 Flavors, Alex Baskin. He's created some of your favorite shows. VPR, the Valley, the Valley, Persian Style, Housewives, O.C. he's an OG. Without further ado, a little forward about the Belmont from Alex Baskin.

Alex Baskin (1:25)

Few places in the history and the lore of Vanderpump Rules loom quite as large as the Belmont. It's probably the second most important and consequential location to Sur itself. And I say that with apologies, not just to TomTom, but to the dearly departed Schwartz and Sandys. All right, the Belmont is where the the group of friends that was at the center of Vanderpump Rules would get together frequently, and I spent many occasions with them there, especially during the development of the series. We had countless brunches there where the show really came to life. And then during the show itself, Tom Schwartz and I would get together at the Belmont to catch up and check in. And it was also where he made his ultimately very compelling pitch to be a part of the show. He wasn't sure that he wanted to be in the show in the first place because he was an aspiring actor and the show wasn't sure that he made sense as a primary cast member because he didn't work at sir, which was a prerequisite for being a part of the show. So Tom presented me with a list of pros and cons for his participation in the show. And the pros were about his glowing personality and his centrality in the lives of all of the cast members. And the cons had one, which was he didn't work at Sur. Ultimately, he tried working at Pump. That didn't work out. But we love Tom and are thrilled that he became a part of the Vanderpump Rules family, which he already was from the outside. The Belmont is also where Tom and Tom Sandoval got together post Scandoval, to talk about the fallout, which they nor anyone else really fully understood at that point, and scores of other occasions, both on and off camera. So we. We salute the Belmont, which will always be a part of the illustrious history of the show. And we thank you for letting us be a part of your memories as well.

Summary

Detox Retox with Tom Schwartz

Episode: "Situationships, Spotlight, and Side-Eye" with Sydney Kane
Release Date: February 11, 2026
Guest: Sydney Kane (NYC-based actor, singer, comedian, writer)
Notable Segment: Alex Baskin (EP of Vanderpump Rules, The Valley, etc.)

Episode Overview

In this vibrant, candid episode, Tom Schwartz sits down with Sydney Kane—multihyphenate performer and creator of the acclaimed one-woman musical comedy Wife Material. Together, they unpack relationships, the realities of showbiz, creative inspiration, and the sometimes-messy journey from pain to performance. The conversation is warm, funny, and at times deeply vulnerable, highlighting both the chaos and beauty of pursuing art and love in LA and NYC. There’s also plenty of insider nostalgia about LA’s iconic Belmont bar, musical theater confessions, and millennial musings on dating, self-worth, and the “ick.”

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Belmont: Vanderpump History & Nostalgia

[01:25 - 06:10]

Alex Baskin opens with a “forward” on The Belmont: its significance in the Vanderpump Rules universe and personal stories with Tom Schwartz.
- Quote (Alex Baskin, 01:25):
  “Few places in the history and the lore of Vanderpump Rules loom quite as large as the Belmont...it’s where Tom Schwartz and I would get together to catch up and check in. It was where he made his ultimately compelling pitch to be on the show.”
Tom and the team reminisce about the Belmont as a “third space” for the VPR cast—comparing it to Cheers, emphasizing its role as an emotional anchor beyond just a backdrop.
- Quote (Tom Schwartz, 05:01):
  “Not at home, not at work, you just feel cozy there...like McLaren's pub in How I Met Your Mother.”
Personal stories of karaoke nights, first kisses, friendships, and infamous VPR moments all rooted in Belmont lore.

2. Getting to Know Sydney Kane: Identity & Artistic Drive

[06:42 - 14:14]

Tom introduces Sydney—highlighting her artist's hustle, humor, and the upcoming show “Wife Material.”
Rapid-fire banter about Route 66, LA landmarks, and Disneyland’s Cars ride—lighthearted, self-deprecating admissions about “not knowing where anything is on a map.”
Schwartz praises Sydney’s jack-of-all-trades creativity; Sydney jokes her sexuality is “artist.”
- Quote (Sydney Kane, 10:55):
  “My sexuality is artist—which actually, that kind of tracks.”
Discussion of artistic identity, imposter syndrome, and creative programs. Sydney critiques the lack of nurturing in competitive musical theater education, calling for more balance between toughness and support.
- Quote (Sydney Kane, 13:11): “These cutthroat programs force you into these boxes and tropes…it’s not productive…Artists need to be nurtured, like plants.”

3. Theater Kids, College Life & Vices

[13:36 - 18:50]

The pair swap stories about high school/college theater productions and unexpected vices (weed, underage drinking).
- Both did “Grease”—Sydney as Rizzo, Tom as Eugene (until underage drinking got him kicked out).
- Stereotype-busting: “Most theater kids are secret stoners.”
- Sydney’s endearing story about being caught with tiny airplane bottles of vodka at theater camp and what it taught her about consequences and being “too honest.”
- Quote (Sydney Kane, 17:31):
  “It was such a small amount and that ratted me out…Instead of flushing it, I go, it’s me, here are the bottles, I’m so sorry. I get kicked out.”

4. The State of Pop Culture: Super Bowl, Love, and Divorce

[19:31 - 23:00]

They rave about the recent Super Bowl halftime show by Bad Bunny—its theatricality, inclusivity, and unifying power.
- Quote (Sydney Kane, 20:09):
  “He’s literally American...and he’s Bad motherfucking Bunny.”
- Discuss performative outrage and political backlash, especially around culture and language.
- Schwartz: “Music transcends borders and language, right? It’s the universal love language.” [20:53]
Light but real talk about love, marriage, and (amicable) divorce.
- Schwartz makes divorce sound liberating, joking: “I’m a big fan of divorce. Staying together when it’s not right is sad.”

5. Wife Material: Sydney’s One-Woman Show

[25:49 - 34:46]

The heart of the episode: Sydney introduces Wife Material, born from a “bad situationship” and a sarcastic comment (“you’re not wife material”).
- Quote (Sydney Kane, 26:16): “It’s a one woman musical comedy…I wrote it because someone told me I wasn’t wife material. I was in a really bad situationship, and now it’s just a very...pointed [and] telling of it.”
The creative process: turning messy dating scenarios into cathartic art, the push from deadlines, and growing the show from NYC cabaret to multiple cities.
Honest discussion of emotional labor:
- Sydney sees the show as her “baby” and confesses to both moments of pride and love/hate (“It has given me everything in my career…it’s stressful being a mom, but I’m a mess at all times.”)
A peek at her musical team and admiration for her collaborators, especially her long-standing musical director David Davin.

6. Creativity, Confidence, and Vulnerability

[35:09 - 36:04]

Dissecting the word "creative"—feeling both pride and cringing at its pretentiousness.
- “You can’t be confident and talk about yourself nowadays…confidence is key, but it makes people cringe.”
Real talk about loving your own art, and how love and hate for your own work can exist side by side.
- Quote (Sydney Kane, 35:56):
  “Love and hate are really closely correlated. Sometimes I literally have moments where I hate my show, but I love it so much.”

7. The Art of Bearing (Almost) All

[36:15 - 37:29]

Sydney literally and metaphorically bares all in her show (revealing costumes, honest scripts), making performance an act of vulnerability.
Shoutouts to her costume designers (Griffin Petria, Rachel Hyman) and stylistic choices that reflect her journey.

8. Music, Performance and Pre-Show Rituals

[47:37 - 51:12]

Musical influences: Charlie XCX, Jesse Murph, Taylor Swift, Amy Winehouse, Ariana Grande.
Sydney speaks about the transformative, looping quality of music—and even sings a bit of “Sympathy is a Knife” by Charli XCX (Ariana Grande version), putting her vocal talents and impressions (especially Ariana) on display.
- Quote (Sydney Kane, singing, 50:16):
  “It’s a knife when you know they’re counting on your mistakes...”

9. Navigating Social Media, Validation & Criticism

[52:16 - 53:04]

Sydney discusses the challenge of internet criticism—especially men uncomfortable with funny women or her appearance.
- “Men don’t like it when women are funny…One thing men have commented on is my nose. It’s so random. I look like Squidward—they say that. I love Squidward.”

10. Love, Dating, & Situationships in LA & NYC

[58:41 - 67:01]

Both share their outlooks on love: Tom considers himself lucky; Sydney is more self-effacing, admitting she’s a “lover girl” but often picks the wrong person, ignores red flags (“I’m colorblind. Red looks like green to me”).
- Exploration of “limerence” (obsessive love/infatuation), ADHD/neurodiversity and attachment patterns.
- Dating app war stories, including a frustrating run-in with “Raya” and how even her “situationship” inspired Wife Material.
- The difference between dating in LA and NYC; how LA’s reputation masks the importance of finding one’s people.
- Sydney on introspection: “If you do go through a breakup, don’t just wallow. Turn it into musical comedy.”

11. Advice, Friendship, and Artistic Audacity

[74:03 - 79:34]

How to process breakups and rejection: journal, talk to friends, don’t settle, and embrace the growth that comes from making mistakes.
- “My advice: get third-degree burns. If you don’t learn the first time, it’s the sixth time you finally get it.”
Schwartz muses about how “people will choose a familiar hell over an unfamiliar heaven”—the challenge and temptation to stay stuck.

12. Endnotes & Show Details

[80:41 - 83:20]

Final promo: Wife Material at the Hudson Theater, Feb 16, 7:00pm (tickets via Sydney’s social or Onstage411.com).
Tom promises: “If you come and say you listen to the podcast, I’ll buy you a drink. We’ll go to the Belmont after.”
Sydney thanks exes for “fueling the fire”—turning painful situations into comedic gold.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On the Belmont:
“They aren’t just like backdrop settings. They’re emotional museums. From ass tats to relationship spats… there’s joy, nostalgia, and some pain, but more joy than pain.” — Tom Schwartz, [05:01]
On Artistic Identity:
“My sexuality is artist. It kind of tracks.” – Sydney Kane, [10:55]
On Nurturing Artists:
“In these cutthroat programs, you’re forced into boxes and tropes… it’s not productive for artists. Artists need to be nurtured, like plants.” — Sydney Kane, [13:11]
On Pain to Performance:
“I wrote [Wife Material] because someone told me I wasn’t wife material. I was in a bad situationship, and now it’s a very pointed telling of it, because he put me through hell.” – Sydney Kane, [26:16]
On Catharsis:
“Everything stems from pain…is it cathartic? Yes!” — Sydney Kane, [30:40]
On Love & Dating:
“I’m a pessimist because it protects me, but I’m actually a lover girl. I crave connection.” — Sydney Kane, [64:09]
On Red Flags:
“You ignore red flags?” (Schwartz) “Like it’s my job. I’m colorblind. Red looks like green to me.” — Sydney Kane, [66:21]
On Advice:
“Get third degree burns. If you don’t learn from the first time… you’ll probably learn from the sixth. That’s the only way you’re not going to do it again.” — Sydney Kane, [76:16]
On Audacity:
“She’s living out her dreams. The art of painting, or any art, begins with audacity.” — Schwartz (quoting Churchill), [83:20]

Noteworthy Timestamps

01:25: Alex Baskin’s “forward” on the Belmont
10:46: Sydney on identity as an “artist”
13:11: Discussion on nurturing vs. cutthroat creative programs
17:31: The story about being kicked out for vodka at theater camp
26:16: Sydney introduces Wife Material and its origin
30:40: Catharsis in performance
35:56: The love/hate relationship with creative work
47:42: Sydney’s musical influences and vocal performance
52:16: Dealing with criticism on social media (“I love Squidward!”)
64:09: “I’m a pessimist because it protects me, but I am a lover girl.”
66:21: “I ignore red flags like it’s my job...I’m colorblind. Red looks like green to me.”
76:16: “Get third degree burns. That’s the way you learn.”
83:20: Final credits; tickets for Wife Material

Episode Flow & Vibes

The tone is warm, mischievous, self-aware, often hilarious, with a mix of LA/NYC creative grit and vulnerable honesty. Tom is supportive, playful, and candid about his own highs and lows, while Sydney oscillates between witty, self-deprecating humor and glimpses of earnest, relatable struggle—especially when it comes to love, ambition, and self-worth.

Summary Takeaway

If you’ve ever juggled ambition and heartbreak, or dreamed of turning your pain into performance, this episode is both validating and inspiring. Schwartz and Kane find the harmony in life’s contrasts—mindfulness vs. mischief, healing vs. hilarity—and remind us why audacity, honesty, and a good group of friends are the real wife material. Catch Sydney Kane’s show if you want the pure energy of a woman who turned bullshit into a Broadway-ready comedy and isn’t afraid to laugh at herself (or at men, or at parkour in trees).

Where to Find Sydney:

@SydneyMorganKane on Instagram & TikTok
Wife Material: Feb 16, 7pm, Hudson Theater, West Hollywood – Tickets via Instagram bio or Onstage411.com

Podcast Guarantee:
Tell Tom at the show you listened—he’ll buy you a drink and might even take you to the Belmont.

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Situationships, Spotlight, and Side-Eye with Sydney Kane