I worked with Elliot Taylor at Pfizer years ago, building security tooling on Laravel Nova. Now he runs engineering at Patchstack — and the job looks nothing like it did five years ago.

This one's not a pitch. No sponsor, no prediction deck. Just two people who've been in the trenches talking about what's actually changing — in the role, in the tools, and in how teams ship.

What we get into:

Why "traditional engineering is over" and what the role is morphing into
The 90/10/200% rule — how most dev skills are fading but the rest got massively amplified
What happens when the whole company can @Claude in Slack
How Patchstack flipped shift-left on its head — because time-to-exploit went from months to minutes
The Codex vs Claude analogy that'll stick with you
Where Lovable, Supabase, and no-code fit next to Laravel and hand-carved code
Why the People Ops team at Patchstack is now shipping their own apps

Chapters

00:00 — Intro
01:00 — Culture, frameworks, and the books that actually work
03:00 — Rebuilding our old Pfizer security dashboard, the AI way
06:30 — Builders, not engineers
10:00 — AI as a thought partner
12:30 — The role of engineer, irrevocably changed
14:30 — "@Claude, is this possible?" — flattening the company
18:00 — AI slop, bug bounties, and the time-to-exploit problem
23:30 — How Patchstack mitigates at the application layer
27:30 — DORA, boring deployments, and tech debt as a loan
32:30 — Codex vs Claude: two very different personalities
35:00 — No-code, Lovable, and what comes after the engineer

Mentioned in this episode

Patchstack — https://patchstack.com/
Laravel, Laravel Nova, Filament, Laravel Cloud
Claude, Claude Code, Cursor, Codex
Lovable, Supabase, n8n, Xano, Softr
Accelerate by Nicole Forsgren, Jez Humble, Gene Kim
The DevOps Handbook by Gene Kim et al.
Continuous Delivery by Jez Humble and David Farley

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