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Podcast: Dial In with Jonny Ardavanis

Episode: “Is 'Crunchy' Christianity Biblical? Seed Oils, Stewardship & Fear-Based Eating | Greg Gifford”

Date: March 10, 2026

Host: Jonny Ardavanis

Guest: Dr. Greg Gifford (Professor, Biblical Counseling, The Master’s University)

Episode Overview

This episode takes a thoughtful and often humorous look at the rise of “crunchy” lifestyles within Christian communities—particularly the focus on holistic, ‘ancestral,’ or ‘natural’ living—and asks: Are hyper-health and stewardship concerns biblical, or can they become forms of legalism and fear? Host Jonny Ardavanis and guest Dr. Greg Gifford explore the biblical principles underlying stewardship of the body, address fear-based eating and parental anxieties, and urge Christian liberty, moderation, and discernment in navigating online health trends.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Defining “Crunchy” and Its Extreme Forms

[00:00–04:23]

• Crunchiness: A focus on holistic, ancestral, or healthy living—avoiding chemicals, choosing organic, unprocessed foods, home births, etc. For some, this means “abstaining from perceived man-made threats to health.” (Greg, [02:57])
• Extreme Crunchiness: Moves from personal conviction to judgmentalism or even legalism—imposing standards on others.
• Memorable moment: “Home birthing, non-vax, environmentally safe cleaning products, sourdough, beef tallow, homeschooling, aromatherapy, grounding, earthing… And she just said, ‘Yeah, this was exhausting...do you have any biblical guidance?’” (Greg, [05:02])

2. The Stewardship Debate: What Does It Really Mean?

[06:28–07:52]

• “Stewardship kind of becomes this word, like this idea, an entity where you can kind of use it and abuse it to kind of say, ‘well, you’re not being a good steward.’” (Jonny, [00:29]; [06:28])
• The notion of stewardship is often weaponized—used to imply that less ‘crunchy’ choices are dishonoring to God.
• “Food is a means of sustaining our body to serve the Lord...not to live longer.” (Greg, [00:37]; [40:36])
• Stewardship should be grounded in Scripture, not personal preference or internet trends.

3. Why the Crunchiness Craze? Roots and Motivations

[08:44–10:57]

• Demographics: Primarily women, but not exclusively; a reaction to past negative experiences—medical mistreatment, mistrust post-COVID.
• Mistrust of Authority: “There’s no one to trust but myself.” (Jonny, [19:24])
  • Explosion of online influencers and the decentralization of expert authority contribute to the confusion.
• Fear-Based Eating: “...if you do use this detergent, for instance, you’re going to hurt your kids...you actually can’t enjoy a bottle in plastic without being fearful.” (Greg, [09:36–11:10])
• Gnostic Tendencies: The danger of an elite or ‘higher’ knowledge about health that others don’t have; leads to judgmentalism. (Greg, [17:15])

4. Biblical Authority, Liberty, and Moderation

[12:31–20:09; 22:09–26:58]

• Scripture is central authority, not health gurus, trends, or even well-meaning Christian friends. “As soon as I frame it that way, I think most Christians would say, absolutely, the Bible.” (Greg, [12:31])
• Romans 14 Analogy: Treat health practices as matters of conscience and Christian liberty. Do not impose your personal convictions on others. “If you’re extremely crunchy, I think you have the Christian liberty to do that...but put it in that Romans 14 category...we are not going to try to impose our convictions onto your family.” (Greg, [23:09])
• Moderation: “...moderation is not exciting because it’s like, well, tell us what to do. And it’s like, be moderate.” (Greg, [28:49])
• Memorable moment: “Can you be a good steward and eat a frozen pizza?...I think you can eat a chocolate chip cookie to the glory of God. And you can eat a frozen pizza to the glory of God.” (Greg, [12:53, 29:27])

5. On Control, Fear, and Trust in God’s Sovereignty

[30:41–37:39]

• Obsessive control over food, health products, and household choices can be misguided attempts to secure the future or avoid all risk—a failing project.
• “You’re not elongating life by the way you live. All of our days are in the hand of God...but then sometimes we can elevate that human stewardship to such a degree that we become essentially the sovereign of our life.” (Jonny, [30:41])
• Memorable moment: “The antidote to fear-based eating? It is the sovereignty of God. And we do know the Lord is the one that sustains our health...the sovereignty of God removes fear-based eating and...sets us free.” (Greg, [36:09])

6. Navigating Relationships and Conversation Within Christian Community

[33:51–35:34]

• How to share? Treat “crunchy” interests like a hobby—swap ideas graciously, and never as badges of spiritual superiority.
• “If you’re sharing those principles...just treat it like you would a hobby. Like, I’m not trying to convince you you have to live this with me.” (Greg, [34:57])
• “You can give a perspective, too, without feeling like if they don’t follow through...the relationship’s over.” (Jonny, [38:01])

7. Practical Encouragement for the Exhausted or Discouraged

[39:19–41:35]

• For those feeling overwhelmed: “People find freedom when they’re able to say—moderation, stewardship, not hypochondriac, not uber controlling...eating from a place of joy and worship.” (Greg, [39:19])
• “Food is a means of sustaining our body to serve the Lord, not to live longer.” (Greg, [40:36])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Anytime someone says, ‘love your neighbor,’ and that’s the reason why they’re proposing their ideology, I’m like, man, you could make love your neighbor and stewardship mean just about anything.” (Greg, [07:46])
• “Stewardship means that I am stewarding the resources that God has given to me. So if you start to reframe that conversation, you have to be very careful to say that this is biblical...because the Bible doesn’t say that.” (Greg, [13:30])
• “Be discerning, but never fearful. Some people are eating from a place of fear.” (Greg, [24:45])
• “If the Bible does not give New Testament saints a nutritional plan to follow, then we are talking about Christian liberty, not a requirement.” (Greg, [22:16])
• “I wonder if it’s more of our Western expectations of stewardship...We’ve Americanized what we think a good steward should look like.” (Greg, [29:31])

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Definition of Crunchiness & Stewardship: [00:00–04:23]
• Why Crunchiness Resonates—History, Social Media, Mistrust: [08:44–10:57]
• Fear-based Eating & Gnosticism: [09:36–17:15]
• Scripture as Authority; Christian Liberty & Romans 14 Parallel: [12:31–15:19; 23:09]
• Moderation & What Is Real Stewardship?: [26:24–29:27]
• Sovereignty vs. Control: [30:41–37:39]
• How to Share Health Convictions in Community: [33:51–35:34]
• Final Encouragement for the Exhausted: [39:19–41:35]

Final Thoughts

“My goal is not to live as long as I can and free from pain as long as I can...We want to serve the Lord. That’s 1 Corinthians 6:20. It’s like you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.”

—Greg Gifford ([40:43])

Summary in a Sentence:
The Christian call to stewardship is about joyfully, prudently using what God has given us—not about surrendering to fear, legalism, or online trends. Moderation and liberty, rooted in biblical authority and God’s sovereignty, keep the “crunchy” conversation from crowding out grace, joy, and the true purpose of our lives.