Enjoy this free bite of Mia Freedman exploring what we're (scientifically) calling 'weird twin shit' with resident Mamamia twins, Jessie (pregnant with twins) and Clare Stephens (she has news). Catch the full chaos of Jessie And Clare Stephens’ Weird Twin Shit Just Got Weirder by subscribing. Not a subscriber yet? Honestly, why wait?

Jessie Stephens is pregnant with twins — which feels cosmically aggressive when you remember she is a twin (to Clare Stephens — keep up, people). Especially when you consider that Jessie and Clare were raised by a woman who had two sets of identical twins herself. And yes, Anne Stevens would like the universe to calm down.

On this subscriber episode, Mia Freedman gets Jessie and Clare in the studio to unpack eerie twin intuition (just one example: Clare knew Jessie had two heartbeats going on in her womb before Jessie even told her), and the very real logistics of carrying two babies at once.

We talk:

Why some people say “How exciting!” at the news of twins while others go instantly grey
The science vs superstition of twins having twins
Miscarriage, sibling timing, and the emotional whiplash of joy and fear
Collapsed ribs, reflux, and the indignity of sleeping upright

Plus, there’s debate about birth-room access, grandparent maths, and whether 'weird twin shit' is now officially hereditary.

It’s intimate. It’s chaotic. It’s extremely twin-coded.

Remember, this is your free sample of Mamamia Out Loud's subs episode. Listen to the full Clare and Jessie debrief by subscribing.

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