In this episode, we chat with John Shively, CEO of Pebble Partnership, to discuss what is widely regarded as one of the most scrutinised and controversial mining projects in the world.

John has spent decades working in Alaska, from his early career through senior public service roles, to leadership positions on some of the state’s most significant mining operations. Today, he leads a project that sits at the intersection of technical feasibility, environmental sensitivity, community engagement, and shifting political realities.

We talk candidly about what the mining industry still misunderstands about Pebble from a technical and operational standpoint, how engagement with Alaska Native corporations and communities has evolved over time, and what it’s really like to lead a project where engineering solutions and political outcomes don’t always align.

Finally, John shares personal reflections on leadership under pressure, resilience in the face of prolonged uncertainty, and what he would say to the next generation of mining professionals considering a career on projects that are technically sound but politically complex.

KEY TAKEAWAYS

The design of the tailings impoundment facility at Pebble is unique, focusing on draining liquid through the tailings to minimise risks associated with moisture and potential failures
Building credibility with local communities and stakeholders is essential. Effective engagement strategies, such as the Elders Conference, have been implemented to foster dialogue and address concerns
The Pebble project has the potential to significantly contribute to the U.S. copper supply, addressing the growing demand for critical minerals necessary for energy transition and technological advancements
Leading a controversial project requires patience, resilience, and the ability to navigate shifting political landscapes.

BEST MOMENTS

"I don't know whether this project can be done environmentally responsibly or not. So if you want a cheerleader, find somebody else."

"Our Environmental Impact Statement... says we can do the project without harming the fish."

"The biggest risk is price. So, you know, today that price looks pretty good."

"You have to believe in the product and what it can do. And that's what keeps me going."

GUEST RESOURCES

https://pebblepartnership.com

https://www.linkedin.com/company/pebble-ltd.-partnership

VALUABLE RESOURCES

Mail: ⁠rob@mining-international.org⁠

LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-tyson-3a26a68/⁠

X: ⁠https://twitter.com/MiningRobTyson⁠ YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/c/DigDeepTheMiningPodcast⁠

Web: ⁠http://www.mining-international.org⁠

CONTACT METHOD

⁠rob@mining-international.org⁠

⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-tyson-3a26a68/⁠

Podcast Description

Rob Tyson is an established recruiter in the mining and quarrying sector and decided to produce the “Dig Deep” The Mining Podcast to provide valuable and informative content around the mining industry. He has a passion and desire to promote the industry and the podcast aims to offer the mining community an insight into people’s experiences and careers covering any mining discipline, giving the listeners helpful advice and guidance on industry topics.

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Balancing Act: The Technical and Political Challenges of the Pebble Mine Project