Netflix Wants HBO, Founders Want Manners, and AI Wants Your Face

Summary

Diggnation (Rebooted) – Episode Summary

Episode: “Netflix Wants HBO, Founders Want Manners, and AI Wants Your Face”

Date: December 10, 2025
Hosts: Kevin Rose & Alex Albrecht
Featuring: Justin & Mao

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Overview

Kevin and Alex return with Diggnation's irreverent, in-depth takes on the biggest stories trending online. In this episode, they dive into the Netflix-Warner Bros Discovery mega merger, the strange rise of etiquette camps for tech founders, and the unsettling power of AI image generation and social manipulation. The tone is as loose, geeky, and self-aware as ever, punctuated by stories from their personal lives, debates over bets and resolutions, and a few especially notable tangents.

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Main Discussion Points

1. Diggnation’s Return & Life Updates (00:13–06:15)

• The crew is back after a long hiatus, now recording at new Digg offices.
• Thanksgiving stories featuring family, baking, and morning cocktails.
• Introduction of “rucking vests”—weighted gear for burning extra calories and increasing bone density.
  • “For the ruckers out there … burn an extra 100 calories a day just by wearing a light vest around.” – Kevin (06:13)

2. Digg Platform Updates & Community Building (07:15–11:27)

• The show’s being filmed at new Digg headquarters, described by Justin as “very open, warehouse kind of setup” (07:38).
• Digg’s new community features are coming soon, focusing on transparency (“visible audit logs”), customizable spaces, and resisting overpowered moderation.
• No official open beta date, but “very early next year.”
  • “How do we ensure you don't have overpowered moderators … There's a visible audit log …” – Justin (09:22)

3. New Year’s Resolutions & The Drinking Bet (13:06–19:39)

• Kevin and Alex discuss quirky New Year's resolutions (chess on Duolingo, Rollie piano), and make a running joke about Kevin betting Alex to go a year without drinking.
  • “Is there a world where you would do a bet to do one year of no drinking?” – Kevin (15:32)
• Hilarity ensues as the group debates how much money would be required, the logistics of proving sobriety, and the real challenge of removing the freedom of choice.
  • “It’s about the freedom of choice. It’s the freedom to decide.” – Justin (17:20)

4. Netflix’s Potential Acquisition of Warner Bros Discovery (21:01–28:20)

[Key Segment: 21:01–28:20]

• Massive news: Rumors swirl that Netflix is looking to acquire Warner Bros Discovery for $82–$84 billion.
• Context: Skydance (Larry Ellison’s son’s company) already purchased Paramount.
• Major IP on the line: Harry Potter, DC, Game of Thrones.
• The group muses on how such deals reshape distribution, consolidate streaming services, and risk regulatory scrutiny.
  • “This gives me many more reasons to go to Netflix, which is why they're willing to pay 84 … billion for it.” – Alex (25:26)
  • “With HBO, every time you hit play, there’s a pretty high bar.” – Kevin (29:12)
• Concerns: Will HBO lift Netflix’s “quality bar,” or vice versa?
• Bonuses: Quick personal reviews of other streaming packages, e.g., Paramount+’s usefulness (“Amazing Race and Survivor … addicted to those classic old reality shows.”—Alex, 26:05).

5. Etiquette Camp for Tech Founders (30:26–36:28)

[Key Segment: 30:30–36:28]

• San Francisco “etiquette camps” aim to teach young founders how to dress and act professionally.
  • “It’s like a finishing school for tech bros.” – Alex (30:43)
• Hosts question whether founder “polishing” detracts from authenticity and focus.
  • “If they’re focused on their fashion, your eyes are on the wrong thing.” – Kevin (32:07)
• Justin shares personal experience with “code switching.”
  • “There is a necessary skill to work within the bubbles of certain industries.” – Mao (32:42)
• General consensus: Social skills help, but “just being genuine and a good person is not teachable.” (35:37)

6. AI, Deep Fakes, and Social Media Bots (49:04–58:54)

[Key Segment: 49:04–58:54]

• Discussion of Google’s new AI image generator (“Nana Banana Pro”) and how it can seamlessly forge photos of people in any context.
  • “Two years ago … it didn’t work. And now … look at this. That looks like Deadpool!” – Kevin (50:04)
• Alarming advances in AI-faked accounts and media: examples of AI-generated therapists, fake podcast guests, and viral misinformation.
• How bot farms—run domestically and internationally—amplify social discord.
  • “10 people can be 10,000 people … that’s even worse.” – Alex (57:11)
  • “Dude, if you want to attack a society and bring them down … you could just cause a little bit of micro friction in households.” – Kevin (54:17)
• Legal, social, and generational implications (“The world is not prepared for 2027.” – Alex quoting unidentified AI researcher, 58:08).

7. Digital Wellness: Social Media Bans, Teens, & Alternatives (41:25–48:40)

[Key Segment: 41:25–48:40]

• Australia and an Ireland town ban social media for teens under 16, putting enforcement responsibility on platforms.
  • “The really interesting thing was a lot of them said it was a relief.” – Alex (43:41)
• Alex and Heather experiment IRL with a social detox—results: “instant” improved well-being.
• Debate over whether swapping mindless scroll with board games, Duolingo, and crosswords is the way forward.
• App idea: limit feed to “25 posts per day” to curb doomscrolling.

8. Tech & Health: Pill Robots, Cancer Screening, & the Kindle Color Scribe (63:37–76:40)

• Tiny spider-inspired robots for endoscopies—as an alternative to more invasive procedures.
• Blood-based cancer screenings (Galleri test), full-body scans (Prenuvo), and the pros/cons of early detection and false positives.
  • *“But the downside … false positives when you get something.”—Kevin (68:11)
• Kindle Color Scribe launches—discussion of digital reading, notetaking, and the appeal of focused, offline devices.
  • *“I would love to check out what the new... Oh, but you can write on it.” – Alex (69:38)

9. Japanese 7-Eleven Egg Sandwiches Arrive in the U.S. (78:55–84:36)

• The hype around Japan’s famous convenience store sandwiches.
• Skepticism that the U.S. 7-Eleven experience can ever match the cleanliness, convenience, and food culture of Japan's locations.
  • “It’s not why 7-Eleven sucks … there’s a completely different societal situation going on.” – Alex (80:04)
• Tangents about Slurpees, childhood sugar, and what it would take for Alex to give up sugar for a bet.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Netflix’s ambitions (25:26):
  “This gives me many more reasons to go to Netflix, which is why they're willing to pay 84 … billion for it.” – Alex

• On trust and media (51:22):
  “We have definitely got to the spot where you just can't trust anything that you see.” – Alex

• On social detox (43:41):
  “The really interesting thing was a lot of them said it was a relief.” – Alex
  “How you getting the good cat videos and shit?” – Kevin (43:41)

• On etiquette camp for founders (30:43):
  “It’s like a finishing school for tech bros.” – Alex

• On AI bot farms (54:17):
  “You could go and hire … 10,000 people … all you do is sit in groups … and just … cause a little bit of micro friction in households.” – Kevin

• On early cancer detection (68:46):
  “Found like a golf ball sized tumor in his brain ... popped it out, totally fine. Would have never known unless...” – Kevin

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Timeline / Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamps | |-----------------------------------------------------|----------------| | Diggnation returns, life chat, rucking vest | 00:13–06:15 | | New Digg office, upcoming features | 07:15–11:27 | | New Year’s resolutions & drinking challenge | 13:06–19:39 | | Netflix–Warner Bros merger deep dive | 21:01–28:20 | | Etiquette camp for founders | 30:30–36:28 | | Social media bans, wellness, the “25 app” | 41:25–48:40 | | AI deep fakes, Nano Banana, digital evidence | 49:04–58:54 | | Health tech: pill robots, cancer screen, Kindle | 63:37–76:40 | | Japanese 7-Eleven sandwiches in U.S. | 78:55–84:36 |

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Standout “Diggnation” Tangents

• Riffing on bets, including year-long sobriety and all-7-Eleven diets.
• “Double teamed by media” (72:23), an impromptu joke about reading and listening to books simultaneously.
• Toilet scrolling vs. genuine relaxation (“hour and a half on the toilet…”).
• Childhood nostalgia for Slurpees and “suicide” soda mixes.
• Candid confessions about sugar and potato chip addictions.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode is classic Diggnation—fun, wide-ranging, and unexpectedly substantial. Kevin and Alex blend personal anecdotes with sharp analysis of the stories and trends shaping online culture, from mega media mergers (Netflix/HBO) and tech industry posturing, to the alarming sophistication of AI-fueled hoaxes. The discussions—especially about digital wellness, the future of trust in media, and transparent online communities—feel both timely and prescient, with just enough offbeat humor to keep it all accessible.

Transcript

[A]

Coming up on this episode of Dig Nation, we're going to talk Netflix, Warner Brothers merger.

[B]

And also I try to bet him to go 12 months with no Jack Daniels. You can do it.

[A]

Welcome to Dig Nation. Also potentially hazardous to your health. All right, moving on.

[B]

Why do you have flies in your freaking house?

[A]

I've noticed in south. It's Southern California and I have fruit. You put zombie and you put eerie.

[B]

In the title and I don't want to do it.

[A]

Dignation.com hello, everybody and welcome to Dignation. Episode number 24. I'm Alex Albrecht.

[B]

And I'm Kevin Rose. Dignation covers some of the weekly hottest stories on the social news platform dig.com/I/g.com.

[A]

That is correct. Happy Thanksgiving, Kevin. Happy holidays. Happy holidays. How was your Thanksgiving?

[B]

Thanksgiving was very chill.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Basically just had my wife's two brothers came over.

[A]

Okay, cool.

[B]

They like to smoke a little bit of the chicha.

[A]

Ah, the chicharone.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And so they went and hid in the back for my girls. I don't know why I'm telling everybody.

[A]

It's family, it's holidays, Everybody's inside and.

[B]

They eat a lot of, a lot.

[A]

Of food at that point. A lot of food.

[B]

But we had a really good kind of like pre made situation from the grocery store.

[A]

Oh, nice.

[B]

You just kind of like get. Everything's already done. You heat it up. It saves time.

[A]

Oh, dude. And it's so. It's like Thanksgiving can be a headache when you really like put, put the pedal down. I went down to my little sister's place in Orange County.

[B]

How's she doing?

[A]

She's doing great. Yeah, we had a. We had a blast. My folks were in, they just came up for the day. I mean it was really easy because it was just like a quick up and back or down and back, I guess.

[B]

Did they give you a hard time for drinking?

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay. I know that happened one time what you said your dad was like, you should probably cut back.

[A]

I mean that is a common. Them.

[B]

They're gonna watch the show.

[A]

Yeah, of course.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Sorry.

[D]

Hi.

[B]

No, they don't.

[A]

It's fine. They're all like, hey, you know, whatever, it's fun. But no, yeah, it was really cool. But I will say I did something interesting. My older sister Nikki, she growing up summers in San Diego. There was a place up the street from my grandparents called the French Pastry shop. And we would always go up and get these. They're called elephant ears. Or in French they're called Palmier. But they're like the curled sort of like. They have, like, a consistency of a croissant, but they're sugar.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Fucking love them. My older sister made them.

[B]

No way at all.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, what the. You could make them? And so I called her, she walked me through it, and I went to a cookie, like, exchange holiday thing, and I fucking made Pamiers.

[B]

Did you bring it today?

[A]

No, because I brought him to the cookie party. I'm show you a picture, and then I'll give it to Mao. Cause I don't have it on my. Are you liking your own computer? Love my air. I don't care what people say. Little bins. Look at this. Boom.

[B]

Oh, yeah, I know. Those little bastards. Those are tasty. Look how great they look. You know what's good? A little coffee with that in the morning. Yeah, bro.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's what I'm talking about.

[A]

So get out there and bake, people. It's better. It's easier than you think.

[B]

Is it really?

[A]

I guess so.

[B]

Justin's here.

[A]

Hi, Justin. Hey. It's so good to be here. Right over him wearing a. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

We can't just pretend like the vest in the room is not in the room with us or the vest is in the room with us.

[A]

Is in the room. It's a holiday. Holiday vest.

[B]

No, it's. It's something else we'll talk about in a minute. But it's good to see you. Thank you for making us a little morning cocktail.

[C]

That's right. This morning we are doing. Now that Kevin is. Is back full force. No, no. I was gonna say responsibly. On the sauce or to the side of the sauce?

[B]

Yes, this is adjacent.

[C]

That's right. This is. This is eggnog with some cinnamon and a little bit of brandy. But a very healthy doctor recommended amount.

[A]

That is true. That just does feel medically necessary.

[B]

Do you like the brandy? Give it a sip.

[A]

I do. I have to say, it's got like a.

[B]

It's got a little bit of.

[A]

Yeah, I like. I'm like that. That little girl who's eating the thing for her monster.

[B]

I will say you did not pick the best brandy.

[C]

But this is what we've got, and.

[B]

So you can blame me.

[C]

Are you. Are you saying if E and J. If you want to sponsor us, we're still open to it? We're still open. Change people's minds and hearts.

[B]

Yeah, that's. You know. But it works.

[A]

Hey, I like it.

[B]

You don't love it, though. You already said it. That far away.

[A]

Well, I Did. Because we have. I want to make sure that we take our.

[B]

Our, ourselves into the sponsor.

[D]

I picked it up at the checkout aisle. Oh, he's like, oh, yeah, Brandy, sure, why not?

[A]

Sorry. I mean, yes, it is Brandy. It is technically Brandy.

[B]

Okay. The vest.

[A]

Okay, let's talk about the vest real quick.

[B]

All right.

[A]

So why are you wearing a BMX style?

[C]

The only thing that's missing are the nipples from Batman and Robin.

[A]

Amazing.

[C]

Yeah, that would have been awesome.

[B]

There are add ons for this.

[A]

My friend put those nipples on that suit. Oh, my God. My friend Greg Aronowicz, incredible thing to be known for. He literally was like, I'm forever known as the guy who actually put the.

[B]

Nipples on the suit because he wants to be like, you don't.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

Known for that. Yeah. That's amazing. Okay. Okay.

[A]

So what is this? All right. And why do you have it on so this vest?

[B]

A buddy of mine sent it to me. So rucking is kind of a big thing where you wear these like big weighted backpacks.

[A]

I got one for Christmas from my brother in law.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like £25. And I never put it on because it hurts.

[B]

No, it does hurt, but it burns extra calories. And it also actually is really good for bone density. You can have load on your shoulder.

[A]

Now I've got to wear it around.

[B]

This is a micro weighted thing which is only £10, but you can strap and you can actually hook in on the inside. It has little clips. You hook in up to £20.

[A]

So little ball weights.

[B]

They're not little sacks inside the thing.

[A]

Not little metal sacks holding you down.

[B]

They're full on sheets of like weight. Oh, sheets of weight.

[A]

Yeah, got it.

[C]

But those are just ribbed for fun.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

This whole thing is ripped. But I will say that you're supposed.

[C]

To put a T shirt over it.

[B]

You can. So you wouldn't even know you're wearing it.

[A]

But you like the aesthetic?

[B]

No, I don't like the aesthetic. I did it for the shop.

[A]

Oh, you did it for the shape?

[B]

Yeah, I did it for the shape show. I'm not gonna wear this outside.

[A]

I mean, you're about. But you are.

[B]

But it's kind of cool. I just, you know, for the ruckers out there, for the people that are into this that want to burn an extra 100 calories a day just by wearing a light vest around. Oh, it's just one of those things.

[A]

Wait, so that's what rucking. I thought rucking was like when you Go on a hike and you add weight.

[B]

Well, yes, but this is more like. Is that what it's called?

[A]

A ruck sack off?

[B]

This is.

[C]

This is urban rucking, is what this is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Is. It's like the parkour of city rucking. Yeah, exactly. The parkour of rucking. I don't know.

[A]

Elevated.

[B]

It feels good, though. It's like actually protection at the same time. Like if someone came up with like.

[A]

Like Spanx vibe too. It's got. It's like.

[B]

It does have a big.

[A]

What is that called? Girder garter.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Something garters for a leg.

[B]

Like, it's both workout gear. And also I could be singing in, like the YMCA band.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's.

[C]

That's what I kept seeing. It feels like you want to say I'm fit, but I also like to be called Daddy.

That's what it kind of feels like.

[B]

Both are true.

[A]

I mean, who doesn't want to be called Daddy at a certain point? I mean, me, anyway. All right. That is amazing. I love that.

[B]

A good holiday gift for those of the Ruckers out there.

[A]

Yeah. So you're like, I don't want one.

[D]

We're in a completely new spot.

[A]

I was just about to say. I literally was just about to say, welcome to the new Digg offices because we had unceremoniously left the previous Dig Dig offices within a day.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Our landlord went out of business, which, you know, happens.

[A]

Happens, happens. But I have to say this is a much better setup.

[B]

It is a better space.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

We're in kind of like a warehouse kind of setup. Very open up here. We've got the. The studio up in the top loft area. We've got all of our. Our folks who work on Digg down there working as well. And beneath us are some of our meeting rooms as well as a kitchen. So we're fully ready for a brand new space. It's going to be fantastic when new commun.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

I've been instructed by everyone but Kevin Rose that I'm not allowed to say the date. And Kevin doesn't know the date because if he knew the date, I really don't say the date very, very soon. And we know because this is what we hear from people. That's what they ask. Like, they're just like, I'm enjoying Dig. Not everybody says it, but I'd say most people say it. I'm enjoying dig. But I just. I want the niches. I want the spaces. These, these topic rooms are way too broad. And we know that. We know you want to get your weird on. You get your freak on. Like, Kevin with his vest will have.

[B]

The best vesting community out there.

[C]

That's right. That's right.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, we. We are going to get those out the door as soon as humanly possible. And I say that, I mean, like, it's closer than it is far is. Is what I would say one of.

[B]

The fun things that, like, without giving out an actual date that to tease out is, like, what's working on your back? Like, on your back end. What is. What is working that you can see today that other people can't? Like, what can you do right now?

[C]

Oh, you can straight up spin up a community on our side, on our testing servers that you're doing, we're making sure all the visuals there, you can, you know, upload the customizations you want on there, as well as one of the things that we're really passionate about and we hear about a lot, which is, like, if you're building a community space, how do you ensure that you don't have overpowered moderators or people that kind of want to control the conversation in these places? And so one of the things that we've decided is from day one, how do we make sure that there is a visible audit log that you can actually see the decisions being made by the leaders in those spaces? Which I think, like, you know, it really works both ways. Number one for you, assessing a community to be a part of, hey, do I like the way this one's being managed. But also on the other side, I think there's a lot of thankless jobs that when somebody is running a community, we should be celebrating the work that they're doing. And you can really see how much work goes into making a great space for all people that show up every day.

[B]

Yeah. One of the things that Jess and I talk about, we actually did a call this weekend. The beginning of next year is going to be a special time because not only is the open taxonomy going to come out, but also that's at the point where you say, okay, we've done the work to kind of get to, you know, more or less in some different ways, feature parody with Reddit. And now is when the fun begins. Now is when that question around, what? How is this different?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Why is this a different experience? And like, what is uniquely digs? And that is the questions that, you know, we're going to answer beginning of next year, which is going to be kind of fun.

[C]

Yeah. It's been like, how do we get the like, most simplistic primitive out the door where it's like, okay, great, like, I understand this is, you know, it's forum software, but upgraded for the modern world. Now what makes this so unique? And those are the innovations we get to build on top of that, which is why getting it out to as many people in an open beta form and getting it in their hands is what's really, really important right now and allowing people to spin up those communities so we can see the creativity and the niches that really pop up and make the space unique in our own.

[A]

So when, because open betas has not.

[B]

Been announced yet, he's not going to say when.

[C]

I'm not allowed to say when. No. But mostly because Kevin's in the room and if I say it, he's going to say it.

[B]

I know it, it, I love it. The problem is like, you're probably plus or minus a week in either direction, of course. And then, you know, you don't want to like, get everyone's date.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

But it's safe to say you're like early next year. Really early.

[C]

It is very early next year. Yeah. So everybody get ready. We're going to be kicking off. Obviously. Kevin's going to launch, slash ruck around and find out and it'll be a fun thing.

[A]

Oh, God, that's good. I love it, by the way. You have to now have that as a community to ruck around and find out.

[B]

But I will be there.

[A]

Oh, my God, that's amazing. Well, thank you.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Thank you for the update.

[C]

We're happy to do it.

[A]

That's awesome. And also thank you for this. And speaking of, thank you for booze, we only have one glorious zebiotic left and I promised it to my friend Kevin Rose.

[B]

Oh, you did?

[A]

Even though technically I'm the one that gets to drink it all the time. But we are so thankful it's the holiday season. You're gonna have some hard eggnog parties, toasts, winding everything down on these long Danes Danes days that are the holidays. And you want to be ready for the next morning as Kevin is going to be ready for the next morning. So excited for that sea biotic. A pre alcohol probiotic drink is the world's first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle the rough mornings after drinkings that we all know. But here's how it works. When you drink alcohol, like this lovely stuff, alcohol gets converted into a toxic byproduct in the gut. It's the buildup of this byproduct not dehydration like we all thought to blame for the rough days after drinking. Pre alcohol produces an enzyme that breaks this byproduct down. Just remember to make pre alcohol your first drink of the night. And of course, drink responsibly, as we always do, and you'll feel your best tomorrow. So go to zbiotics.com digg to learn more. And get 15% off your first order when you use the coupon code digdig at checkout. Zebiotics is backed also by 130, 100% money back guarantee. So if you're unsatisfied for any reason, they'll refund your money, no questions asked. We love you guys. Thank you. I, of course, didn't take mine because that was the last one that we had.

[B]

I appreciate that, but.

[A]

We appreciate it. All right, shall we get into the first.

[B]

No, First New Year's resolutions?

[A]

Oh, right.

[B]

Real quick. Because we're coming up on New Year.

[A]

I mean, we. Yeah, yeah. This is true.

[B]

All right, so I'm gonna give you mine real quick, rapid fire.

[A]

Okay. Okay.

[B]

And then you give me yours. Do you. You don't have. Do you know, I'll pick.

[A]

I'll pick some right now.

[B]

All right, number one, I've been doing chess lessons on duolingo.

[A]

Whoa. First off, why on duolingo?

[B]

Because they offer chess now, and they have a cute little owl that does things, and there's this little guy with a mustache.

[A]

So you're. Is it in Japanese?

[B]

No. No.

[A]

I don't know why you would do it on duolingo.

[B]

No, because duolingo has, like, things now. They do piano, they do chess.

[A]

They have, like, less. Oh. So it's not just.

[B]

There's not languages anymore.

[A]

So it's duo lingo.

[B]

Yeah, it's like. Yeah, duolingo. Like, lingo and something else.

[A]

Oh, it's like lingo. Duo chess lingo.

[B]

Yeah, but.

[A]

So you can learn. Arigato Kozai. Chess.

[B]

You can learn all kinds of things.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

They're adding more and more to their portfolio of things.

[A]

Are you good at chess? And I feel like I'm getting better at chess.

[B]

I'm getting better. They teach you all the opening moves. They actually have you play against the computer, and then they have you play real people online, which is kind of fun. So far, I've won, like, all. All my matches so far.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

But I really don't know what I'm doing. But it's fun. It's probably too little, so that's fun. Piano. I'm Gonna be playing around the piano.

[A]

You're gonna learn how to play piano?

[B]

Well, I.

[A]

Do you know how to play piano?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I found this thing called the Rollie, which is.

[A]

I've seen that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's pretty cool because they have this thing called the airwave that sits on top of the keyboard, and it has a camera that goes down. And so not only do you get their software that kind of instructs you, but it watches with your finger placement.

[D]

Oh.

[A]

So it can be like.

[B]

Well, it gives you little cues and stuff of, like, how you're doing. And that's kind of fun. It's pretty sweet. I haven't gotten the device yet because they've been backordered.

[D]

So maximize your screen real quick.

[B]

Maximize it. Yeah. That is the Rollie. And the last thing is that I was going to ask you if you wanted to join in this one New Year's resolution.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Dry January.

[A]

I mean, the short answer is yes.

[B]

What's the long answer?

[A]

Well, the long answer is. Didn't you do dry?

[C]

This isn't for me.

[A]

It's for us. Oh, it's not for you?

[B]

No, we're both doing it.

[A]

Oh, so it is free. I mean, yes, I have. I have partaken in the dry January. I usually go into fuck drinking February because it's the shortest of the months.

[B]

I see.

[A]

It's only 28.

[C]

One question.

[B]

What would. Is there. Is there a world where you would do a bet to do one year of no drinking?

[A]

I mean, sure. I don't know why I would do it.

[D]

Oh, here it comes.

[A]

You mean you would bet me?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

A certain amount of money.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

If I could go a year without drinking.

[B]

And if you break, you pay me one tenth of that amount of money.

[A]

I mean, you better bleep out how much money he's gonna pay. It's gonna be intense.

[B]

Would you do it for.

[A]

Maybe one year?

[B]

This is good for your liver.

[A]

I mean, it is, but then it's like, do I not want to have, like, a nice glass of wine with a steak for a year? Yeah, I don't know. I'd have to think about that. Okay, I think about it.

[B]

Think about it.

[A]

I don't. I don't fear it. Like.

Like, I feel like if I was an actual alcoholic, I would. Like, I'd be sweating right now. You know what I mean? And I'm not sweating.

[B]

Like, I mean, you might be after, like, January.

[A]

Dude, I went. I went.

[B]

You had a hard swallow right there.

[D]

I saw that.

[B]

We could probably get that as a replay.

You're like, jessica, get a triple real quick. Just really? Yeah.

[A]

I gotta go out. Go out with style.

[B]

I'm going out all the way to December. Yeah.

[A]

I'd like to be unconscious.

[B]

He's just on the couch for the entire rest of December, just eating. Yeah.

[A]

Ice cream.

[B]

With ice cream ramen and. Yeah.

[D]

What's the number that would get you.

[B]

To say yes right now? Yeah, that's the one that we think about right now. What's your number? And don't be like.

[A]

I mean, it's that. I was.

[C]

I was literally over that. Dude, that's way too much money. You're taking away a problem.

It's a big thing.

[A]

It's not about you. You did it for free.

[C]

I think that's it. It's about the freedom of choice. It's the freedom to decide. I want to do that. So if it's removed for me. Yeah, that's got to be worth it for the. For the.

[B]

For the.

[C]

The head space that it occupies in that.

[B]

Plus, it's gonna make you healthier.

[C]

The headspace makes me healthier. And by the way, a lot of things do.

[A]

That's why we could just do it today. It's because it makes me healthier, and I'm not doing it right. Like, so clearly that is not enough.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And the other thing is, like, for the first number you had mentioned, you know, you get like a month in and you're like, jesus Christ, do I really want to keep going? But for.

[C]

That's different.

[A]

By the way, every time I'd love a glass of wine, you were like, but not for.

[B]

I'm betting that you're gonna fail. Because what I really want is. No, no, no. Cause if you give me a 10, I know. Like, if it says, say, I know you would give me. I know you would do that. So I'm trying to find that fine line.

[A]

If we say dollars.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You're nowhere near expecting me to give you my fuck up.

[B]

Well, number one, you're gonna do it. Yeah. Yeah. And number two, you're not gonna give me that money.

[A]

So it's like, this is so funny. Cause you're asking, what's the number where you will definitely do it. And then we tell you, and you're like, well, that's too much, because you.

[B]

Will definitely do it.

I think I know what the number is. I think I know what the number is.

[A]

Yeah. Pay for my health care if you.

[B]

Feel the number is ready.

[A]

Okay, here's the number.

[B]

What?

[A]

No. Why? What's happening.

[B]

Just think about it.

[A]

I will think about it.

[B]

It's like, no joke.

[A]

So my. One of my New Year's resolutions.

[B]

I would do it for your health.

[A]

Is get money off of Kevin. And I think I might be able to do it this year. This might be the year I bet.

[B]

You we could get a dignation pot to come together. I think they should buy, like, a lot of cash coming in and be like, alex, no drinking.

[A]

Like, go to the.

[B]

But we'd have to have a cam on your ass every night. Like, sitting on the couch, being like.

[A]

No, you know what it is? I have to go to bed by blowing in one of those.

[B]

Like, yeah, I'm not allowed to go.

[A]

To bed until I blow into my.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

My sponsors. Whatever it's called.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Breathalyzer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, I can't turn my car on. I'm like, oh, God, here we go.

[B]

I think is the number, dude.

[A]

But again, a full. A full year of not enjoying one. Having, like, just that one little. Like, I just want a little nip of something.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm going out to a beautiful dinner at some.

[B]

I mean, it's addiction.

[C]

Of course.

[A]

I don't.

[B]

I get it.

[D]

It's addiction.

[C]

Well, I think it's harder in, like, a partner dynamic, where also, it's just like, you're going to a nice dinner.

[B]

It's always a nice dinner. You give my wife, you know, dinner. What if it's me and Heather? We both. Heather would do it for less than.

[A]

I mean, she would totally, but because she's more like, we gotta stop drinking. And I was like, we are stopping.

[B]

Drinking in the morning. All right, so good luck. Keep me posted. Oh, should we talk about the holiday show?

[A]

Keep you posted.

[B]

We're gonna do a little holiday.

[A]

We are. We don't know. We're gonna do something fun for the holiday.

[B]

Just before.

Is mosquito. Just before the Christmas season or Hanukkah or any of the Kwanzaa. Kwanzaa. We are gonna drop an episode that is our favorite little tiny pockets of episodes, also known as segments through the last year, and put it all into one and do a little intro with. We used to do. Can you throw back to that, like, intro we did for our old holiday episode? I have it on the Internet. Roll the clip.

[D]

We'll figure it out.

[B]

Yeah, so we'll look kind of like that, but older, with gray hairs and whatnot. And. Oh, yeah, you got grays on your beard.

[A]

Yeah, but you just said gray hairs. Yeah, these aren't hairs.

[B]

I Get a lot of agrees this year.

[D]

These aren't beards.

[B]

All right, so it'll be fun.

[A]

Yeah, it'll be super cool. We'll do something fun for y' all as a tour and fun for us and for us. All right, let's get into the first episode. As Kevin likes to say, Netflix to acquire Warner Brothers Discovery for. This says 72 billion. I believe it's up to 84 billion at this point, or 82 billion US dollars. This is sent in by Comdac. Comdac has a lot of my. Has a lot of my show, my episodes or my stories right now. So here's the thing. Did you. Have you heard about the whole. Cause you heard about Skydance purchasing Paramount, right?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

So Skydance is Larry Ellison's son. Started a production company and started really killing it. I mean, they've made a bunch of movies. They were a bunch of Brad Pitt movies early. You did all the Mission Impossible movies. So really? And dealing with Paramount with the Mission Impossible stuff. Yeah, it became one of those things where Paramount was starting to not be able to work as well as a studio. They were losing some money and they didn't really know what they were gonna do. A lot of production has left Los Angeles and so the studio space was not really something that was being utilized as much. And there was always speculation that something was gonna happen. Skydance comes in and purchases Paramount, which is crazy because it's a production company now owning a old school studio.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

As soon as it happened, everybody was like, is Skydance gonna go and purchase Warner Bros. Discovery? Cause Warner Brothers Discovery is another one of those big sort of like, you know, legacy, old school, you know, studios and kind of one of the only ones left. You know what I mean? I mean, I guess there's Universal, but so there was a whole talk and at the time a lot of people were talking about like, well, what if Netflix comes and purchases it? And it was really interesting because Netflix, Ted Sorrentos, was like, why would we want a legacy studio? We're the future. Well, cut to. They are planning on acquiring Warner Brothers Discovery as it stands. And I don't know if they're gonna purchase the Discovery piece. Cause I think they're purchasing the studio and because this is what always happens, like when Disney bought Fox Studios, 20th Century. So I think they're gonna get HBO, HBO, Max and the studio piece. But I don't know if they're gonna end up getting the Discovery piece. Cause they might break those apart anyway.

[B]

Is there a Ton of IP that they get with this. Like, when. Cause there's someone that. Is that what it is? That's a big one.

[A]

Harry Potter.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Game of Thrones.

[A]

Game of Thrones.

[B]

Wow. That's huge.

[A]

I mean, literally, like, their list of what they have is immense. And even just buying DC would be enough to be like, why does the.

[B]

Market not like it, though? Like, I'm looking at Netflix right now. Over the last five days, it's down 12%.

[A]

So think about this, right? Netflix makes its own content and has a distribution arm. Warner Brothers makes its own content and has a distribution arm, but its distribution arm is sort of a legacy cable provider. Right? So if you think about, like, HBO shows, like, Game of Thrones is a perfect example. Right? Like, Game of Thrones was a television show that then also streamed on hbo. Max. Well, what if the only place to be able to see all of DC's comic book stuff was on Netflix? You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So all of a sudden, you're going Netflix now, and there is no other place to see it. Right. So it's that consolidation that everybody thinks about.

[B]

I mean, I totally get that in that when I think about Netflix, I think about original content, which is awesome. You think about shows that they've developed in house that have become household hits, which is amazing.

[A]

Yeah. Stranger Things.

[B]

Stranger Things. And, like, there's a Witcher, or they'll do, like, some kind of crazy boxing event, or they're known for some of these big kind of magical moments.

[A]

The Tyson thing was on there, but.

[B]

I feel like it's been the hbos and the others that have always had these big, massive brands. They've held on to 100%. And for me, Netflix is never my first choice. And I know I'm not, like, the average consumer, but for me, I'm like, okay, what's on hbo? What's on. You know, from mostly movies. So, like, what's on Apple? What's on some of these bigger providers? And I think of Netflix only when someone says, oh, have you checked out that one show on Netflix? It's never like, oh, let me just see what's on Netflix. I know a lot of people are like that. A lot of people are like, let me see what's on Netflix. But this gives me many more reasons to go to Netflix, which is why.

[A]

They'Re willing that IP, this is why they're willing to pay 84 or $82 billion for it, is because they want you to be on Netflix. They don't want you to Go to hbo.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But the problem is, is that, well, you're going to pay whatever. You know they're going to be able to force you to pay. Because so, like, right now, the way that it kind of works out, at least for me, is I kind of go, is there something in the Paramount world that I want to see that justifies my 10 bucks a month for Paramount Plus. And when, when that answer is yes, I pay my Paramount.

[B]

Has it been?

[A]

It has been, yeah.

[B]

What do you watch over there?

[A]

It's weird for me, it's like it was a little bit the Star Trek stuff.

But some of the Star Trek shows just don't really resonate with me nowadays. So I kind of dip in, dip out. Weirdly, it's. And this is not a reason to keep it because I could easily just stream it through my Spectrum cable box or whatever. But I watch Amazing Race and Survivor. I'm like, I just am sort of like addicted to those classic old reality shows for some reason.

But there's good stuff out there too. I haven't yet gotten into the Yellowstone stuff, but people say that it's like so worth watching.

[B]

Oh, first season, it was all right.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. But anyway. But then the thing that's crazy is just today, as of day of recording Skydance, Paramount just came in with a. What are those things called? A hostile takeover. A hostile bid for like 50 bucks a share for Warner Brothers Discovery to purchase it instead of Netflix. And then there's the whole regulatory stuff. So I, you know, it's funny, I had my text chains with some buds blew up because we're all entertainment industry people and it was just like, oh, this is so bad. And now what are we going to do? La la la. And then one friend chimed in and was like, I just hope that it doesn't get past the regulatory stuff. And it's interesting because Ted Sorentos, who's the co CEO of Netflix, had a meeting with Trump before the deal was announced. But Trump just went on record saying that he's like, this is interesting. We're gonna have to look into it. That would be a lot of consolidation and we're not usually like that happy about that. So it's gonna be really interesting. Even if there's a hostile bid takeover with Skydance and Paramount, there's so many reasons why that may not go through. But at the same time, it's also, Netflix is huge in New Mexico. That's where they shoot all their stuff. So it's like, then they're going to have the stage here.

[B]

And thank you.

[A]

Oh, thank you.

[D]

Look in there.

[A]

Nice. Yeah. See, you got the Z bio.

Cheers to January. I mean, if I do the January thing, I get one free month into the bet, which is nice.

All right, anyway, so big news in the Hollywood sphere. We will see. Eyes are on it. We will let you know if anything happens over the holidays.

[C]

But real quick, though, don't you think, from an entertainment perspective, this move for Netflix makes a ton of sense to have, like, such an esteemed brand behind it.

[B]

100%.

[C]

I do think that is. The thing is, like, I feel the same way about Netflix. It's like, it's. Usually there's, like, something that crops up every now and then, but. But for a lot of times, it's just like. It's like candy. It's like, oh, yeah, this thing came out. It's fun. It's a silly conceit. Whereas, like, HBO is that esteemed media that's like. Even actors want to work with HBO and like their shows.

[A]

Well, the problem becomes, does HBO make Netflix more like hbo, or does Netflix make totally more like Netflix? Because some of the stuff that is being put out by Netflix is like, oh, man, it's just not good.

[B]

But that's. The whole thing is, like, when you hit play on a Netflix thing, you're like, I'm either gonna watch an amazing thing, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or it's gonna be something they bought for $2 million from some kids that made it, you know? And you don't know with hbo, every time you hit play, you're like, there's a pretty high bar.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Netflix used to have that quality bar. And it's because when Netflix start. I mean, I think all of this boils down to the unfortunate situation that every single person to a T believes that they are, at their heart, a creative person, and most people are not. And the worst thing that can happen to a studio has happened to Netflix, which is because Netflix, the way it used to be was. We're tech people. We don't understand how this creative shit works, but we like this creative person. Here's some money, and make us a cool, creative show. And then you start getting, like, House of Cards and all these crazy things and stranger things. Like, they went to the Duffer Brothers, and we're like, we don't. You guys do you. We'll just pay you. But then as they start creeping up and as they start believing their own press, you start getting these executives that are just business spreadsheet people that start going, I'm gonna give some creative notes and then you start ending up with, you know, sorry about champagne or champagne in Paris or whatever, which is just like a fucking Hallmark movie that has a Netflix brand on it. I mean, it's just so.

[B]

I miss the days of getting my CDs in the mail.

[A]

Yeah, I get you my DVDs. Yeah, I get you anyway, but so we'll keep on it. We'll let you know how it's going.

[B]

This next story is a little bit odd. I just had to pick it because it was odd.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So it says a look at an etiquette camp in San Francisco that teaches young founders how to dress, act and talk amid shifting expectations as industry gains power. So whoa. They're basically.

[A]

It's like a finishing school for tech, bro.

[B]

I know it's so bad.

I just don't know like it's gonna work.

[C]

That's gonna work.

[B]

Why?

[C]

Because most of the young CEOs I feel like that I meet, you're in the room with are just as insecure as anyone else. And, and I think to, to be told we can help the style part of it because it's like, I mean, look at, look at Jeff Bezos. Look at Elon Musk before they became who they are now. And the way that they dress with like the high waisted pants of the tucked in Polos. Like if, if you can feel cool ahead of time, I don't know, it's probably going to be worth it for them.

[A]

Well, well, by the way, who's saying what is cool?

[B]

See, that's the problem. I think that you have different VCs that are out there that are funding these young entrepreneurs.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And some of them are like, you know, Ivy League, like sweater vest, like super preppy. I can imagine a finishing school for founders probably makes them look more like that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they're like, oh, you're one of us. You're one of our people.

[A]

Here's this fleet.

[B]

Yeah, those are the worst.

[A]

Got the VC label on it. Good luck.

[B]

I want my founders win a hoodie and jeans. Like they should be worried about what they're trying to build.

[C]

You described me.

[B]

Yeah, you are looking.

Are you wearing jeans?

[D]

He did really well.

[A]

Well, you sent Justin. That was. Yeah, we sent Justin three weeks hard labor.

[B]

But I feel like if they're not, if they're focused on their fashion, your eyes on the wrong thing.

[A]

I know. Well, but, but, but devil's advocate, there are some very smart people that are more than awkward in the room.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And there is Something to be said about, like, how do you give a pitch? How do you speak to an investor? How do you speak to your, you know, clientele? Like what? There's, there's lots of. There are certain things that I think people could benefit from.

[B]

I agree with that.

[A]

The way that this is pitched feels very like that alpha male, like boot camp where they just like beat the shit out of idiots for money.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like. But no, go ahead, Mal.

[D]

So I grew up doing a lot of code switching. Growing up in like, primarily like Latino lower class and then went to a private school and it was a culture shock. And I learned very quickly like, like, it sucks, but I need to be able to speak the speak at the very least. And that's just through immersion. If there is a crash course, maybe, maybe that's worthwhile. I just know it is a necessary skill to work within the bubbles of certain industries.

[B]

I think that is true on just the general way that you approach a conversation and you're just likability of who you are, but not so much on the dress side. No dress side. Or that makes me just like, that doesn't matter.

[D]

But there's certainly other skills, like as simple as the vernacular that's used within certain industries that are important. You either pick up on it through immersion. You don't have the ability to immerse yourself because of certain, like chicken or egg. Are you let into the industry or not at like, what skills you have to get in?

[B]

Yeah. The number one thing that I. The number one mistake I've seen over many, many years of watching founders, without a doubt, is just acting like they know something they don't know. At the end of the day, no one expects you to be this like, perfect Swiss army knife of all knowledge. It's like you are there for a reason. You've got something that you really want to tackle that you believe should exist in the world, and you are the domain expert for that little sliver of thing. I don't expect you to know what EBITDA is. I don't expect you to know like all these like, like esoteric and larger kind of like, you know, almost like you have to be a CPA or something to understand these terms.

[A]

Yeah. There's a reason why CFOs exist.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. All you have to be like, is like, you know, I just, I'm not schooled up in that area. And that is where the someone can say, oh, let me help you out. Let me introduce you the right people that you need to be talking to, because at the end of the day it's like, how do I surround this entrepreneur with great people so they can succeed? And if they don't tell you where.

[A]

Their, their apps are, you don't know how to fill up with.

[C]

But don't you think that that is kind of a pitch for this topic? Like it's like keep it it simple, keep it easy for the things that elude you, like fashion, like understanding these things. And like, I'm just saying, I'm not saying it's the right thing for everybody, but I think that there are a lot of people who simply just don't know how to dress either for their body type or, or like they don't want to have to think about it. They want it to be something that just. I know when I go in the room I'm not going to be mocked or feel weird.

[B]

And maybe that's just Steve Jobs thing.

[A]

Right. Like the reason why he wore the same thing all the time was because he just didn't have to think about it.

[B]

Yeah. I got to say though, there was this one engineer that I met and he had like bedhead where like the hair was pushed up in the back end.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I liked him better because of that. Because I was like, you know what, like he's just working on his computer and you can fuck and going to sleep and thinking about numbers. Like great.

[A]

You know, like that's what I want that guy to do.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

There's, there's certainly a phase where being genuine and, and, and being.

Just a good person is not teachable. There are other things that are teachable.

[B]

Yeah. I'd have to see the whole. It's easy to slam something like this 100% because you're like, ah, finishing school for entrepreneurs. Like lame. But at the same time, maybe we haven't seen the course where like what does it actually look like when you sit down? And maybe it is. There's more like little tiny polishing of things versus like a tech pro. Like a. What is it when they like dress them up and like, like the makeover, like celebrity makeover.

[A]

Oh yeah.

[B]

You know, maybe it's awful though. I have no idea.

[C]

But I'm just saying my gut reaction is like, like helping out some kiddos with how they feel about themselves.

[B]

You're a first time CEO.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Would you go and do this?

[C]

No, but, but, but I feel comfortable with what I wear. Like, like I, I pretty much the same thing. Solid colored shirts and hoodies. Like that's what I like on Me.

[B]

Plus plus your wife helps you, helps dress you a little.

[C]

She is so good at that. Yeah, that's true.

[A]

All right, let's get a couple sponsors in here, my friend.

[B]

I am very excited to talk about this sponsor, Whisper Flow, because it's been something that I have been using now for probably about a year. I was first introduced to it by a friend, Aston Kowalski. He was big into vibe coding and he was like, hey, listen, if you're typing, you're doing too much. You need to be having conversations with your AI. And this tool, it installs on macOS and it's also for iOS and everything else, but it sits there and it just kind of hangs out. It's not always listening, but there's a hotkey. So right now, if I see that little thing popped up right there.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So if I hold down, I see.

[A]

That you just added to that little thing I've popped in right there.

[B]

So it automatically completed it. If I hold down that key, the function key on Mac and I start talking to it, it just perfectly dictates it all into whatever app I'm using.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

So they can be everything from like email, email, Slack. I use a lot for conversing with AI because one of the things I found when you're coding is the kind of more verbose and long winded you are actually the better. Oh, because if you just say like, hey, I didn't like the style of that. Can we make it a little smaller? That is not as good as being like, you know what? The style didn't feel right because I noticed it's a little compact in this view. And sometimes when I shrink my window, it gets way too crunchy. And you wouldn't think to type that all in.

[A]

No, I get that.

[B]

But when you give AI like several paragraphs of what to do, it's like, oh, I got you and it goes off and does the right thing.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Anyway, Whisper Flow is, is. It's phenomenal because. And this is not copy I'm supposed to read. But like, one of the things I love about it is if you are sitting there and you say, you know, I want you to really travel, actually. Sorry, I want you to go down and you completely change vector those last four or five words, it completely cuts them out because it realizes that you change topic and it only gives you the media what you want. It's actually a pretty magical experience. Try out for free Whisper W I S P R Flow AI I'm telling you, Digg and you will not regret it. This Is one of those products that I pay for. And I truly was thrilled to hear that they wanted to sponsor because I love the things that we actually use and it's very natural that way. Anyway, Wisprflow AI dig. That was the right euro, right?

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Sweet.

[A]

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[B]

You do on the chest and stuff too. You do like the full sweet, you know?

[A]

No.

[B]

Do you shave your chest?

[D]

No.

[A]

I have once or twice. It's not.

[B]

I don't know if I ever asked this, but do you have a hairy ass?

[A]

I do not. I don't know. Oh well, I don't know.

[B]

I don't. You don't know?

[A]

I mean I don't have to like.

[B]

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[B]

I didn't know that was a thing.

[A]

I don't. I can't.

[B]

Justin, did you know that was a thing?

[A]

Hairy butts.

[B]

Like ass, like beards.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely.

[B]

You have.

[C]

Absolutely. I don't. I'm actually quite barren, as you can tell.

[B]

Oh, you are barren?

[C]

Yeah. I don't have. I'm hairless. I'm like. When I'm wet, I'm like a seal.

[B]

Oh, Jesus. All right, boy.

[A]

All right, well, let's get to the next story then, shall we? Everyone will miss socializing, but it's also a relief. Five young teens on Australia's social media ban. This was submitted by Silveson.

[B]

Silveson.

[A]

Silveson. Yeah. So I had heard this. There's a town or a village in Ireland that got rid of all social media for kids in school.

[B]

She looks pissed.

[A]

She's pissed. Okay. Yeah, look at that. She's like, fuck you taking my social medias away. How do I even talk to my friends now? So last year, Australia banned all social media for kids under 16. And it was a very interesting way that they did it because they didn't put the onus on the kids and they didn't put the onus on the families. They put the onus on the social media companies. So they said Instagram, Meta. Well, I guess Meta owns Instagram, but you know, X, TikTok, all of those. You need to age, verify people in Australia or you have to take your platforms down. So it was a slow process. But what they did was they now, a year later, caught up with this is the Guardian. They caught up with five teens and basically asked how they thought it was going. And the really interesting thing was a lot of them said that it was a relief that because nobody had access to it, there wasn't this. Am I missing out? Who am I missing out? One of the things that I thought was really interesting was there are like online quizzes and most of the online quizzes have questions about current memes. And so these kids would take these online quizzes with their friends, almost like was jackbox or whatever. So they'd like hop on Zoom and, you know, hang out with their friends and take these quizzes. And they would always miss some of these questions because they weren't seeing the memes. But I bring this up because Heather and I have both in the last two weeks really focused on not opening up Instagram, TikTok, Facebook and Just really being, like, zen about it. And I cannot tell you how much better I feel. It was almost instantaneous. It was really crazy.

[B]

How you getting the good cat videos and shit. You showed me that when we sat down.

[A]

Right. Because somebody sent it to me.

[B]

Oh. So that.

[A]

So this is what I. But only if someone sends it to me. So, like, I have a buddy that sends me cooking stuff like, every day.

[B]

Like, you get like 30 a day from. You're like, do you get onto.

[A]

Not 30, 30 a day.

[B]

How many.

[A]

I'll get like five.

[B]

And you what?

[C]

That's.

[B]

That's like, dude, it's a lot. You can't be like, I don't use social media. And you open it five times a day to check one video. Five.

[A]

Five videos every day.

[B]

So one video five times.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But that's not social media.

[A]

That is so not. Well, okay, I'll defend you here.

[B]

That is.

[A]

That.

[D]

It's very different from you actively just doing.

[A]

Sitting for an hour and a half on the toilet, watching video after video after video. Dude, I would sit. When I would go to bed, I would go to bed, I'd get into bed and I would open up Instagram and I would just fucking just go. Just like, seeing stuff. Thinking I was like, oh, seeing some interesting information.

[B]

I get a lot of woodworking stuff now. I get some good shit.

[A]

But do you need that?

[B]

Yes. Okay, well, listen, I like. I like cats doing weird shit.

[A]

I cannot lie.

[B]

I like cats doing weird shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I like woodworking stuff. A little bit of Alan Wassel, Zen action. Action. I like just, you know, I get a good. My mix is good. My mix is good.

[A]

Yeah. But so what I would say, every.

[B]

Once in a while, I'll get one. I'm not supposed to like.

[A]

Right. 100%.

[B]

I get that you don't talk about wickets when you're like, yeah, not everybody's gonna like that because it might show up somewhere.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

You know, but it's also, you know, like, is that AI.

[A]

So what I would say is you could set yourself up a situation where you were like, I'm gonna go and look at woodworking videos for 15 minutes. Right. And then go to the accounts that you know and see what they've put up recently. Go to another account that, you know, see what they've put up recently. But for me personally, the, the, the, the. Honestly, the, like, weird. Like, I just. It just made me feel so much better. I felt like. And I was doing more stuff because that's one of the things that these kids say Is that they're like, we're playing board games more. We're doing. You know, I love that. Connecting with people more.

[B]

I think this is the age where you need to cut it out. I mean, there's been a lot of research on this.

[D]

This.

[B]

And one of the things that came out in the research, which was just fascinating, was that the muscles that we build around social norms and engaging with each other and understanding. Oh. What I said was not social cues, social cues, all that. It's this age. And if you only do it via text, all that is lost. And you don't build any of that. And it leads to horrible things down the road. But that said, I got an app for you to build. This is your first app of the new year.

[A]

I'm excited.

[B]

It's called 25. Five topics, five posts per day. That's all you get. See, I'm into woodworking, I'm into whiskey drinking, I'm into blah, blah. It curates, grabs all that stuff. And you get 25 posts per day. It's just your little appy dappy. And you're like, done.

[A]

I mean, that's not a bad idea.

[B]

Not a bad idea. Because then you don't. The problems drift, right? Cause you get in there and all of a sudden you're looking at woodworking. And then you're like, look real. You know, you're like, okay.

[A]

So Kevin's drift is very specific. It's like woodworking.

[B]

Mind you. It happens quickly.

I'm like, ah, woodworking. Oh, Jesus. Well, it's funny when I'm scrolling, my kids. Cause like, my kids will come over.

[A]

Scrolling with my kids. Look at this great wood.

[B]

Because I can always tell. Because I know people know what I'm talking about. You ever been in this situation? You're scrolling and you're like, look at this. And they're carving some intricate object. You're like, how amazing is that? And they're like, cool. Next one. And you flip and you're like, good God. You, like, go real quick.

[A]

You're like, why are we jogging?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So 25. I like it.

[B]

25.

[A]

Yeah, done. I'll vibe code it tonight before this episode comes out. I don't know, but I was just gonna say, like, for me. And it all kicked off. There was a. I saw this article where researchers, they basically, the log line of the article was. Researchers have found that social media time actually does physically rot your brain. And I just went, well, that's fucking horrible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. And I just knew myself. I was like, God, When I would, like, go. And so, like, Heather's now doing, like, Sudoku. She's doing, like, a bunch more. She loves crosswords, so she's doing. She does all the crossword stuff and wordle and all that stuff. And I found myself doing that when I would get into bed instead of going to just, like, Instagram and scroll for the rest of my life.

[B]

Stretch chest with me on Duolingo.

[A]

Oh, 100%, dude. Let's pop in.

[B]

Well, I can add you on my family account. I have five slots to get free. Done. It's like 120 bucks a year. I'll give to you for free.

[A]

Done. Yeah, I want it. And then we'll place checks.

[B]

I don't think it's legal, but how.

[A]

Is that not legal?

Family. You get those people. You got to use them. Yeah, but I do connections.

[B]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[A]

Love that. So I'm like, I'll do connections. And then I started doing some of the other just things because I was like, well, I'm here. What am I gonna do? So there's, like, other things with, like, dominoes and putting dominoes and numbers and stuff. And I was like, this is fun. Anyway.

[B]

It's amazing.

[A]

Effective.

[B]

I think that's a healthy thing for.

[C]

You to be doing.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

You're gonna be.

[B]

It's a brand new you.

[A]

It's a brand new me.

[B]

Sudoku. No drinking.

[A]

No Doku.

[B]

No, no. You're just gonna be clean.

[A]

I'm gonna be clean. I'm gonna come in here. I'm gonna be. Have gone to the CEO camp.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm gonna come in with a. A North Face vest for no reason in the middle of Los Angeles and be like, hello, gentlemen.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

Do you have my Earl Grey tea ready for the show?

[B]

Slight. Oat milk, please. Only a dash. Okay, here we go. Nana and Banana. We're not safe. This one was submitted by Mao, our one and only Mao.

[A]

Hello.

[B]

And this is a fantastic story. So check this out. So Nana Banana is the pro, is the new model that just came out not too long ago from Google. Right. And what's crazy is that, I mean, we've gone. We've come a long way in like two years.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like two years ago, I'd be like, hey, can you, like, put me in this photo? And it'd be like, I'd have, like, seven fingers, kind of look like me. It didn't work. And now check this out. So this guy, he's like, nothing is real anymore, and he starts posting these. These photos. Look at this.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And so what you get here is.

[A]

Actually so much like he's on the set. So Dark Knight.

[B]

That's what he's doing. He's doing these things where he wants to put himself on the set of various movies that he was never at. Look at this.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Like, look at that. That looks like Deadpool.

[A]

Crazy. I mean, Wolverine has no head, but I think.

[B]

Look at this.

[A]

Oh, that's.

[B]

I mean, look at Jon Snow in the back. I know. That's my. I'm a fan. You're a family, too, right? Or no.

[A]

Yeah, she's nice. She's not my. Like, look at this. That's amazing. Dude.

[B]

How crazy is this, man?

[A]

We have definitely got to the spot where you just can't trust anything that you see.

[B]

The thing is, if you look at this right here, I would say, well, let's take the Breaking Bad one. I would think he probably was on the set.

[A]

Yeah, 100%.

[B]

Look at the shadow of standing next to him, hitting his face there. There's nothing about this where I would be.

[A]

Well, nothing screams. I mean, that's funny. The one with Thanos. Cause you're like, that's a CG character. How'd that happen?

[B]

Yeah, that one looks a little bit f. Right there with Keanu.

[A]

This is the one. Yeah, that one looks a little fake. The one down there with the chick looks fake. I mean, that could be a statue, though.

[B]

You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, it's pretty cool, though, that.

[A]

That one is nuts. But it is. It's one of those things where, like, now we're gonna have to get to this point where we just can't trust anything. You just can't trust anything. You gotta sort of back up your own stuff, especially with. And videos are starting to be the same way. Like, there's. It's. It's interesting. There's, like, this trend now that I've noticed.

Where you'll see this little thing on Instagram that says, like, translated by AI.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

But when you really listen, you're like, that's a whole AI person.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Like, that's not even a real. And I was like, God, this is, like, crazy. Like, the fact that you can just build a fake AI person to be, like, a content creator on Instagram. I was on Instagram, and, you know, the Chinese, like. Like, bot farms are just making people.

[B]

Yeah, well, there's. There's. This is, like, one of the things. I was on this account the other day, and it was recommended to me. In that, you know, going sideways situation. And it was like this therapist that was on there and was like the problem that men and women have and blah, blah, blah. And it was like very like male slanted, where I was like, oh, you're pretty pro dude here, you know? But I could see why I had like, it had like hundreds of thousands of likes. And I just clicked through on the account. I want to see who this person is.

[A]

Is. Yeah.

[B]

And I noticed that they were in a variety of different podcasts. Like all podcast scenario where my. Blah, blah, different setting. It was like all these things. And I clicked on every single. Every video was the same sentence of what she was saying. Wow. And she looked perfect. Like, I would never have guessed.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That this was fake.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was like, whoa, wait a second. Everything here has hundreds of thousands of likes on it, and it's getting propagated to all these men. Someone has an agenda here. They want to push to like unseat and cause relationship. Because this person seemed like they were like an authority. Authority. And then you can see them forwarding the partners. Like, see, I told you you shouldn't be treating me like this. It's just to create this tension. I was like, damn, there's some evil going on out there.

[A]

Tension is what I mean. No offense, but that's like all the, like Russian bots and stuff. Whenever we have a political vote, they just want contention.

[B]

I'm not Russian.

[A]

They don't care you're not Russian.

[B]

Why'd you say no offense?

[A]

No offense to the Russians.

[B]

Oh, to the Russians that are watching, you're like. To me, you're like, no offense on your Russian bot.

[A]

No offense. I know you're a Russian bot farm. It's making you a lot of money, but maybe you shouldn't do it. Yeah, but that's what they.

[B]

It's getting hot.

[A]

Well, it's a hot mess.

[B]

The weight.

[A]

The weight.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Your extra 10 pounds of sitting weight.

It'S like just the space bar going across.

Yeah. But it's interesting because that I think sowing discourse is what the bot farms want. I personally don't know how that benefits anybody.

[B]

Dude, think of it this way. If you want to attack a society and bring them down, you can do it with missiles. You can try and go in the front door. You know all the horrible things that are. One, if you take on any first world country, you're gonna get your ass, like, handed to you back.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

For sure. So there's gonna be an actual conflict.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

So you're gonna lose all types of resources, money, all that. Or you could go and hire internally, secretly, call it 10,000 people.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

They're all part of a secret organization and all you do is sit in groups of, of 10 people and little product groups like we could do today. Like we could get together 10 people right now, pulps and people, engineers from down there and say, like, how are we going to. What is the angle we want to take just to come up with something that will cause just a little bit of micro friction in households. And if we can do that at scale now, we're pockets of 10 people. You got 10,000 people. You're going to be launching hundreds and thousands of various small, micro, subtle micro campaigns that caused tensions. What was funny is, and listen, like, I'm not trying to push an anti Trump agenda here, but I do want to say one thing that was interesting is that there was this pro Trump account and Elon added recently where the account was created.

[A]

I heard about this and like, where.

[B]

Where they tweet from? Yeah. Are they X from?

[A]

And I was like.

[B]

And it was like, yeah. And it was like, oh, wait a second now, you know, And I'm sure this happens on both sides. So please, if you're a Trump fan, like, whatever, it's happening all over the place for sure. But the point being is that you can have. It doesn't matter if you're pro left or pro right. What you want is the tension.

[A]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

And so those accounts can exist on both sides.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But it's that this is what we have.

[A]

It's literally like people, Americans fighting each other online.

[B]

That's the best way to do that.

[A]

They're not even Americans.

[B]

Yes, exactly.

[A]

It's like they're, they're just these external.

[B]

Squeaks we're in to pump.

[A]

You meant to pump or whoever else. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And be like, oh, screw that. They're taking a two to take it too far. Yeah, yeah. It was never any American that took it too far.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It was a bot that took it too far.

[D]

There's literally, literally been studies on this. I don't know if you remember the story of, of Reddit had accidentally posted the city with the most visitors. It was Eglin Air Force Base, because they were, they were doing a campaign on Reddit to see how to affect people in masses. And they actually ended up releasing a study on, on how to sway opinion by creating bot farms as a.

[B]

They got sued for that though. Right? Like, there was, there was one bot form that was Created by university. That. That was on Red.

[D]

Yeah, totally different.

[B]

That was different. Okay.

[D]

Yeah, that. That was on the subreddit of my mind as well.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Changed my mind.

[A]

No, yeah, totally.

[D]

Totally different story here with the Air Force base doing just massive studies to really.

[A]

So crazy. So crazy. I mean, honestly, it's like. And it goes back to the Nano Banana Pro, where it's like, you start to go. The bot farm stuff and all that stuff is hard to combat, but it gets even harder to combat when you can back stuff up with these fake videos or fake images or even just the fake context, right? Like having an LLM do your dirty work for you. And then you go, yeah, 10 people can be 10,000 people.

[B]

Like that, right?

[A]

And that's even worse, you know, and.

[C]

Then the issue is like, the rate of all of this stuff, how fast it's improving, how, how long they can pose as just like an average user on. I mean, they're infinitely patient. They can do it forever.

[A]

That's the thing.

[C]

And it's getting cheaper and cheaper to run them every single day. So it's just. That's what's crazy.

[B]

Well, also think about the rate of distribution around, like, who understands actually what's going on?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So like, you know, we're in our 40s and we're like looking and be like, oh, something's not right there. You know, somebody in their 50s is like, oh, that's, that's. Wow, I can't believe that happened.

[A]

Oh, dude.

[B]

My mom, who's in her early 80s, she believes all of this, right? And so. And then there's a whole gamut of people on what they understand and what's going on right now. And it's going to take 10, 20 years until everyone always like, oh, maybe I shouldn't trust everything that I see.

[D]

Yeah, in 10, 20 years, is, is it going to fool us too?

[B]

Right?

[D]

What does this mean for like, like court evidence? For like, oh, dude, video, audio, any, any media?

[A]

I gotta have that conversation. One of our really good friends is a DA down in San Diego and I. That next time she's around, I'm totally having that conversation with her. And there was a. There was a guy that left. There was an engineer that left. It might have been Google, some big AI guy left and he was being interviewed and he said, the world is not prepared for 2027. People are not prepared for what's going to happen in 2027. And you start to go, well, look at Nano Banana versus two years ago.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I know what I mean.

[B]

We had elbows and fingers and legs in weird places. And now it's like, oh, I don't know if that even happened.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Two years later.

[A]

Wait, was I in Bermuda?

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Oh, man, it's gonna be, it's gonna be intense.

[B]

Speaking of privacy, you know what?

[A]

It's a good time to speak about privacy. I think there's your personal data is out there online. If you have logged in to anything, if you had signed up for anything. I know. It is so easy to get information and it is crazy. I've done a couple of the research things to be like, do they have anything? It's like everything's out there. It's not good.

[B]

Dog's middle name.

[A]

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[D]

Yeah.

[B]

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Don't let this opportunity slip through your crack.

You got it. You know it hold on to those opportunities.

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Can we replay that one just to make sure? I said that.

[A]

That it's great. It's great. I love it. Speaking of your crack.

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[B]

Endoscopy I was just doing for the segment. I love it.

[A]

I love it. Your endoscopy.

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[B]

Would you swallow this?

[A]

I totally would.

[B]

Versus doing anything.

[A]

So here's the deal. It is an inpatient. So it's not like you swallow it, go home, come back, and they go bleep. Okay, we got your info. So what it does is. And there's, there's like. Check these pictures.

[B]

It crawls through your shit.

[A]

It crawls through your stomach. But look. So these are like the pictures.

[B]

Oh God, yeah. Why are you zooming that?

[A]

Well, Cause that's so like this is the thing that. No, that's the robot. So it's like this weird. Yeah. And it like rolls over. Look at it, like rolls into a ball and because look how fucking weird your inside of your intestines are. So it was really hard because they were like, we want to be able to traverse, but at the same time. So it uses. There's magnetic fields that are being generated.

[B]

I also use a magnet across your belly.

[A]

Well, A, that. But B, it is moving using the magnetic field inside your guts.

[D]

Crazy.

[A]

So each of these little things are little itty bitty magnets. But then also you sit next to this device that has a bigger magnet. And so it also kind of like moves it along if needed.

[B]

Does it have a camera on it?

[A]

It's got all these sensors. So I don't know if it's.

[B]

What's it looking for?

[A]

Well, it's looking for polyps. It's looking for early signs of cancer. It's just looking for all the stuff that you would do on an endoscopy where they would put the thing down your throat. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't know if this is the same as a colonoscopy. I Don't think they want it to go all the way through. You know, that's the other end.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, it has to go all the way through. They're not going to pull back out. You'll just pass it.

[A]

I don't. I mean, I guess maybe.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I don't. It doesn't say how they remove it. I'm sure it's.

[B]

I had acid reflux really bad and I got an endoscopy done.

[A]

Oh, yeah. So this would take place of that instead of being knocked out and just throw it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But the knocked out thing, if you ask for it the right way. We've talked about this before.

[A]

Is a good time.

[B]

You have to ask for it the right way, though.

[A]

What's the right way? Well, you give me that heroin.

[B]

No, no, no, no. So. So I don't. We've talked about this before, right? Yeah, I think so. I think so.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's just like you talk to the anesthesiologist when you're about to go in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You ask for the slow race ramp. Slow ramp, which is where they don't push it all in at once. They just give it to you over the course of like 45 seconds. It's the Perfanol. The Michael Jackson stuff.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And you get why he did it once you do it.

[A]

Oh, interesting.

[B]

Because it's like. Do you feel like you're like on in heaven?

[A]

I had a dream. I had. I full on had a dream when I was getting my colonos.

[C]

Really?

[A]

100. What was it if. I know. I don't think it was getting, you know, I don't think it was getting a colon.

[B]

People wake up during those, by the way.

[A]

Heather's sister did.

[C]

No way.

[A]

Yeah, twice.

[B]

Yeah, I heard this. Painful. Yeah, yeah.

[D]

Wake up.

[A]

And somebody's like, oh, why are you awake? Oh, SpaghettiOs.

[B]

Yeah, that's like.

[A]

Hopefully your doctor doesn't say, uh, oh, SpaghettiOs.

[B]

But I'm, I'm. I'm excited for this. This could be cool.

[A]

I love all of this stuff because I think this is the type of stuff that's going to. That's, that's gonna be in the next, like. I mean, we talked about 20, 27, like the next five, 10 years. The medical stuff is just gonna go through the roof. Have you done the gallery test? Did we talk about the gallery test? Yeah, Heather did it.

[B]

I do those once a year.

[A]

Yeah, she sweared by it. I'm gonna start doing it once a year. I gotta do. Maybe I will get dressed.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know. That's like an early cancer screening type situation.

[A]

The blood test.

[B]

Yeah, it's blood test.

[A]

It screens for like 80 some odd forms of cancer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause it's hard because, you know, and even some of the stuff, like, haven't yet done the pre novo.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, my God. I had the worst scare at Prenovo.

[A]

What happened?

[B]

Oh, dude, you want to know? I don't want to get into it. They basically said I needed to meet with the doctor. Like, they normally just send you your results.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you're like, oh, I'm just gonna get my results.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I had been having some, like, kind of motion sickness, kind of like. Oh, like vertigo.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it turned out it was fine. It was just crystals in the air that were dislodged. It's like a normal thing.

[A]

My dad had that.

[B]

I went in and I got the scan done, and it took like a week, week and a half, two weeks. I'm like, what is going on? I called him, like, yeah, you need to meet with a physician. Like, we have to, like, give you results over the phone.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

And I'm like, that's when you normally get the bad.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And I call them. They're like, oh, yeah. Our computer's just down. We just couldn't see any of the results. I'm like, you, I died for like 24 hours. Like, I was like the scariest shit ever anyway. Well, that's the downside of these things. There are a lot of false positives when you get something.

[A]

So this is the thing. This is the thing with with gallery.

[B]

The whole thing is you have to.

[A]

Be okay with somebody with you getting a false positive and then having to go one step further to then discover that you don't have the thing.

[D]

Thing.

[A]

Right. You know what I mean?

[B]

But it's like early detection. I had a buddy that did Poovo, was doing it as part of due diligence for investing in a round of financing. Found like a golf ball sized tumor in his brain.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Next day, was on the operating table, not cancerous. Popped it out, totally fine. Would have never known he had it unless he was actually. Just went in and got it done. Insane, huh?

[A]

Well, there you go.

[B]

Saves lives.

[A]

All right. Lives, people.

[B]

Next story of the day is the Kendall Color Scribe comes out on December 10th.

[C]

Ooh.

[B]

So are you a Kindle user or no?

[A]

So it's interesting.

I have had Kindles and I do enjoy them. And it kind of goes back to the thing about the social media because I used to read books and then sort of stopped because I never, you know, that downtime didn't exist anymore because it was filled with these just hours or 45 minutes of scrolling and so I would probably get back to it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean? And I would love to check out what the new. Oh, but you can write on it.

[B]

Yeah. So this one, the scribe, they had a scribe that came out probably a couple years ago. It was just. Okay. It got mediocre reviews. This one is the new full on color one and it's like a notepad. The nice thing I like about the Kindle is like not only. I mean it's obviously gone far above and beyond just an ebook reader which is a very good one. Now it is like a full on note taking documents, like books, like all the things and you can actually highlight areas in the book and color on them and add notes and all this stuff. This to me, if they nail it. I don't know if they're going to nail this version or not, but if they nail it.

The one thing I do appreciate of this versus in theory say something like an iPad is. An iPad is. Is yet another way to be connected to the Internet.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And the one thing that's nice about this is if you're just in like it's still rude to go to a meeting if you're not known as like the person. Well now it's AI that's taking the notes. But if you're not known as a person, that's actually if you're typing your peer people like why aren't you paying attention to me?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And so this is kind of like a way to disconnect. You got your books, it has audible too. So you get your audiobooks too. If you have headphones. And then you can also take notes right there. No Internet browsing. You know, I mean they got like some shitty like browser text or something but like no one's doing it on it. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know, I'm excited to try it out.

[A]

Well, Heather might, this might be perfect for Heather because Heather has started doing this thing where she'll listen to an audiobook and read the book at the same time. Oh, at the same time. What people do that?

[B]

Yeah, at the same time.

[D]

Oh, at the same.

[A]

Yeah. Well it's like you follow along the audio.

[B]

It's called whisper sync. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Double team by media.

[B]

That's what it's called. What?

[A]

Double teamed by media.

[B]

I love, I love Two eggnog.

[A]

It's like the two old guys at the Muppet Show.

[B]

I love that he has nothing to say to you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You just got double teamed by technology. I've had two eggnogs. It's 9:30am Everybody.

[A]

I gotta go to work.

[B]

I'm building Dick. Oh my God.

[A]

The public beta is starting on Dick.

[B]

It's starting right now.

[A]

I'm flipping the switch. But this would be perfect for. For Heather because she. Because she could listen to the audiobook and read the book. Book on the same device.

[B]

I agree. And she'll get double teamed.

[A]

And she'll get double teamed by media.

Oh God, that was great.

[B]

Best interjection of all time.

[A]

Like just like there's no called double teamed by media.

[D]

What?

[B]

Kevin, you okay? Yeah. You had you brought in?

[A]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[D]

It's called that, that note note taking tool.

[B]

Do you, do you use it like if you got this.

[D]

It's basically the same thing as this other scribed device.

[B]

Yeah. So there's a handful of these like E Ink note taking ones. The one that I got was. It's a smaller one. It's the same because there's one by books with an axe. Remarkable is the one that I've been playing with and I.

[C]

Remarkable.

[B]

I used a couple of the Remarkables and they have a smaller one. The issue with Remarkable I think is great. It functions quite well and it's like perfect for like jotting stuff down. But when you go to move the media to the desktop, like what do you get? What are the integrations like? It's never been clean and if you look at the app reviews, like the actual transfer apps, like they get really shitty reviews. So I think the device itself is awesome. But truthfully what I want is just Google Drive or Dropbox, like link them up and then save as PDF or markdown or whatever and, or both and just put it in my folder automatically so that it's auto syncing every time I'm taking notes versus me being like, oh, I did take that over there. Let me. Because let me go back and sync that and blah blah, blah. If someone has a good way to do this, please let me know dignationig.com is that right?

[D]

That's right.

[B]

Because I just have found this to be a multi step process. When I'm taking notes. I just want it to automatically show up there, you know.

[C]

Do you use your teenage engineering one? The recorder.

[B]

Oh yeah. So that one burned the fire. Thanks for bringing that up. That was beautiful. That was beautiful.

[D]

Beautiful.

[B]

I did Key engineering, Chef's Kiss. Like some of the best devices out there, they made this really cool audio recorder. Actually, the nothing phone has a really cool built in recorder with AI now, so, like you can flip it over and hold down the button. So anytime your phone is flipped upside down and you hold the side button in, a little red light starts flashing on the back of it. So it knows you're recording your conversation.

[C]

And so it transcribes all that.

[B]

Transcribes all that stuff. And it's really cool. But I feel like that there's a bunch of these now. Whisper is obviously another one as a sponsor, where it's just like you can. They're all kind of coming together.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like where do. Where and how do I input data so I can research it and grab it and pull it into my life, you know, in a holistic way.

[A]

I always find it just so hard to like pull something out of my bag when I get to a meeting. Like, it just sort of feels like I just want to have the meeting. And that's why one of who's somebody was. Had. Had that thing that was like a lapel.

[C]

Well, that was the superhuman one. Yeah, that. That didn't do.

[B]

They just got bought.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, really?

[B]

Yeah. Facebook bought them.

[C]

Interesting. I think. I'm sure they had interesting stuff that they were trying to cook on under there.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

But you know, it's like, like there. There are those, like passive ones too that are really interesting. Like the ring one where like you can talk to AI and ask questions, but again, you're not breaking in that moment to have to like, look down or do something. It keeps the conversation rolling.

[B]

Yeah. I've been beta testing Sandbar, which Sandbar, in full disclosure, is a true company that we invest in. But it's a ring where you just test me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that one's gonna be really cool. That's. That's still another six months out to.

[A]

Yeah. But it's sort of like with something like this, it's always just sort of hard to be like, okay, hey, this is a fun coffee.

[D]

Yeah, I guess that's what I'm getting. That's my point. Of all the tools that you've had to like, take notes here and there, like, are you actually coming back to those notes and using it? Because what I'm saying is, all right, I can take notes. Don't need it, because it has never worked for me on iPad or across any other device or color. What do I need that for in my Books. I'm not reading coloring books or children's books.

[B]

It's a good point. I don't know why the color thing. That's a good question. But I will say that in terms of the productivity tools that I've seen out there actually be successful, the one that we use at True is granola. And we use granola because granola not only does it, like, summarize and take away all the key bullet points and all that and create this beautiful document for you at post meetings. So when you're doing zooms, things like that, but they also have a shared backbone that is your team. And so what you can do is, if you take a meeting like, oh, my team would benefit from understanding how this meeting went. It's one click. It goes into the shared folder with your team. And now you have a corpus of data that you can, like, search against and crawl and be like, okay, when we met with that company, what was happening? Even though you weren't the meeting, you can then go into it. It's really cool. Yeah. And it doesn't actually record the audio, so it transcribes it and pulls out all the key points. But it's nice in that you're not breaking, too. There's a little bit of a privacy concern there. But it's not like.

[A]

Yeah, but you tell people.

[B]

Raw recording. Yeah.

[A]

But also if, like, you tell people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's no more different than having a secretary or somebody, you know, a stenographer secretary. I don't know who has secretaries anymore. But like a stenographer in. In the meeting, his job is just to make sure that they take meeting.

[B]

Which I typically have someone that's just typing next to me, like, courtroom style. Yeah.

[A]

Or is it with the, like, the voice record thing where they put the. Because court reporters, there's the thing where it's like, you can touch the different words, like each thing is a word. Or they have the one where you just, like, literally talk into, like, a jet they got a muzzle on. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Did you see the new keyboard that people had been talking about where it's, like, completely arranged to get 99% of words within, like, your finger's distance? And then if you just push down on all the letters that you think a word is going to be, it automatically creates the word. And so when you.

[A]

I mean, I think that is the court, like, court reporters don't type the words. I mean, don't type the letters that make the words. There's combos and that they use that are the words.

[B]

So this was a new one that I saw where it was just like, this cool keyboard for. And I saw this guy, he, like, was like. He was doing, like, full paragraphs. And I was like, what the.

[A]

Oh, that's cool.

[B]

You have to train yourself, though.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, all of those different, like, imagine that. All of those different, like, ways to input stuff on. On keyboards. I just can't. My brain is just too. It's not malleable anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's my hands. This is how I type.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I have to do that with my mouth. It's very weird.

[B]

It's so strange when you're on a call with him, he's like, sorry, what.

[A]

Was that last bit? I couldn't quite hear.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

Just checking to see if my Amazon package.

[B]

So good.

[A]

That would be the most annoying.

Somebody had to start doing that. I'm going to start doing that with Heather and just see how long it takes her to pick up on it.

[B]

Somebody definitely has something. It's like Tourette's for keyboard types.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I love it. All right, last story of the day.

[A]

All right, last story of the day. Japan's viral 711 egg sandwich launches in the U.S. why it's so popular. Also submitted by Comdeck as a twerk.

[B]

Use the Comdeck fanboy.

[A]

These are the stories I got. I just kept going, oh, man, it's Comdeck again. That's great. So obviously you're Mr. Japan, so have you had the egg sandwich in the seven Eleven?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So seven Eleven is currently owned by a conglomerate called, like, Tokyo seven or something like that. So it's a Japanese company, seven and I Holdings. Seven and I Holdings. So a Japanese holding company owns seven eleven. And if you're not aware, in Japan, seven Eleven is like a store people go to for food.

[B]

It's good.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, it's clean. It's, like, not what we Americans think of as 7 11. And I always find it so interesting whenever I hear about, like, oh, 711 is going to try to bring the. The Japanese food, you know, daily fresh food stuff to the United States. I always think that's not why 711 suck.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It has nothing to do with the fact that there isn't a fresh egg salad sandwich in it. Like, in Japan, there's a completely different societal.

Situation going on with cleanliness, with littering, with loitering, with drug abuse, with, like, all of these things that make a 711 place that most people are like, I Gotta go into the 7 11. You know what sketchy person's gonna be in there? How shitty is it gonna be? Is the food even gonna be edible? I mean.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Remember those hot dogs that would just sit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For like, weeks on that.

[B]

Well, there was somebody that got really bad food poisoning from one of these places. Like, it killed a couple people.

[C]

It's not someone. It's everyone. It's anyone.

[A]

And the pizza, like, what are you even doing with. And they have those, like, weird taquitos that are rolling now, like egg roll. You're like, what are you doing? 7 11. So they are trying. And I commend them for trying, you know, I mean, I would like all the seven Elevens to be these nice, clean places that I can go and get a fresh box of food. I mean, they do, like, box lunches in Japan. They do. The sandwiches are amazing. So a couple of the people have started eating or trying these sandwiches and they're close.

[B]

Close.

[A]

But they're not the Japanese style sandwiches. They don't cut the crust off. They're not that milk bread. They use cutie pie mayo. But it's like. And it's also American, so it's probably processed through the fry.

[B]

Yeah. And then it's gonna sit on the shelf, like at 7:11 in Japan when you go in, you know, it was made like that that morning.

[A]

Yeah. It's still freshly delivered every single day.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. And I'm sure they're not gonna let it sit there.

[B]

It's gonna purchase because they're good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, these are just gonna sit there for like three days, and you're gonna be like, oh, it's soggy on the toast and. Yeah. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah. So this is.

[B]

I mean, hats off to the marketing person. Right. Cause they were like, hey, this is the best thing we have at 7:11.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's bring it to the States.

[A]

Yeah. So this is the 711 version of the sandwich.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But you can see it's got the. It's got the crusts.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And people are just like, it's, it's. It's okay. But it's not, you know, it's not the Japanese sandwich.

[B]

Last time you had a Slurpee.

[A]

Oh, God. Since I was a kid.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Probably it's been a while for me too. I used to love Slurpees.

[A]

Were great.

[B]

Slurpees.

[A]

Honestly, Slurpees were what made 711 slurpees.

[B]

What was your favorite?

[D]

Slurpee.

[A]

That's interesting. I think it Was cherry mixed with Coca Cola.

[B]

Okay. I just like Coca Cola.

[A]

Yeah, that cherry was like that.

[B]

What was your favorite? It was.

[C]

It was like a. A white one. I forget what it was.

[B]

White wine, White with the. White with the pina colada.

[C]

Slurpee.

[B]

Yes. Yeah.

[C]

I don't remember what it was, but maybe it was like a blue raspberry something.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Mao.

[D]

Blue raspberry for sure.

[B]

Yeah, blue raspberry. Raspberry.

[D]

I didn't have very many options.

[B]

It was cherry, blue, raspberry. Coke.

[A]

Coke.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

See, I love that cherry. That, like. Did you love the suicide, which was just like everything.

[B]

Everything. You would just like, put it all in here.

[A]

Just all.

[C]

Yeah, that was like a soda fountain thing to me. Not a Slurpee thing.

[A]

I was like the Long island iced tea.

[B]

How bad? We were like, killing our bodies. Like, we literally be like sugar, sugar, sugar. Like, just 10 different flavors.

[A]

I would love to say that's not what I do on a daily basis.

[B]

Do you do that?

[A]

I love sugar.

[D]

Sugar.

[A]

Sugar's my kryptonite.

[B]

Oh, Jesus. Okay, I want salty things. Like, one year, you put a bowl.

[C]

Of kettle chips in front of me.

[A]

Oh, yeah, dude, I just tried tj. Trader Joe's has blue cheese, blue cheese potato chips. They are bonkers. Good.

[C]

Yeah. I love it.

[A]

I mean, you gotta try it.

[B]

I will.

[A]

Woof. As it were. I don't know what they can do to save. Well, not save. To change the perception of 7:11 in. In the United States.

[B]

I don't know. They need to, though. It's like. It is.

[A]

But no, they definitely want to. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, but you're right.

[C]

It's bigger than prepared food. It's a brand positioning. Like, at the end of the day. It is. It is. Like when you're in Japan, it is a reliable, really well taken care of convenience store, like, consistently. And it's always excellent. So.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And here it's just. It's 7 11. You know what I mean? What you get? Yeah, you get what you get.

[D]

Alex, how much money would you need to quit all sugar for one year? Oh.

[A]

Or more money than alcohol?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[B]

What about just to eat in a 711 for one year? That's all you get.

[A]

All the money.

[C]

He would die. Yeah. You're just paying for his bereavement services.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Yeah. I would literally die.

[B]

Yeah, that wouldn't be good.

[A]

Anyway.

[B]

All right, on that note.

[A]

On that note, guys, happy holidays. Thank you so much for coming and sitting down with us for another episode of Dig Nation. Happy holidays to everybody. Yes, and we will see you shortly. I'm Alex Albrecht.

[B]

Kevin Rose. Ergadiga Zamas.

[D]

Ah.