
Outnumbered #6 | DSH #2077 Can King Azoulay defend Israel, masculinity, mental health, and feminism against 10 people for over four hours? In this Digital Social Hour episode, Sean Kelly hosts King Azoulay in a heated 1 vs 10 debate covering three major prompts: whether the United States should continue supporting Israel, whether mental health is real, and whether feminism has damaged modern society. The conversation starts with Israel, Iran, U.S. foreign aid, October 7th, the Middle East, military strategy, Zionism, Christianity, Jewish identity, and whether America actually benefits from its alliance with Israel. This episode is raw, chaotic, controversial, and unfiltered. King Azoulay debates everyone from political critics and Christians to mental health advocates, adult industry workers, and young creators while defending his views on America, Israel, men, women, family, and the modern world. CHAPTERS 01:04 - Prompt 1 - The United States should continue to support Israe...
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David
Now.
King Azuli
I was born here, but I was raised in Israel, and I could tell you that Israeli people in Israel are not happy about war. They don't want to be at war.
David
Part of the reason why I don't support continuing to send money to Israel is because Israel has proven to be a rogue, imperialistic state that wants endless expansion. From the Euphrates to the Nile, Tel
Ben
Aviv is literally the gayest city on earth. And you wonder why Iran wants to take Israel out.
King Azuli
Like, it's like, you know, I mean, it could be one of the reasons, but I think the biggest reason is because we're the chosen people. Look, you were born a man.
Evelyn
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King Azuli
Men do it the best no matter what. We do.
Host Sean
We do.
King Azuli
Oh, my God.
Evelyn
I still have my penis, but I have my balls cut off.
Host Sean
All right, guys, we got King Azuli versus 10 people today. We got three prompts. The first prompt prompt is the United States should continue to support Israel. King Azulai is going to be defending that position. Def.
King Azuli
You want to start off?
David
Yeah. Well, tell me the reasons why you think the United States should continue to support Israel.
King Azuli
I'd like to know why I think they shouldn't.
David
I mean, there is a multitude of reasons. We've been sending about $3.8 billion a year, which goes to Israel. It goes to a lot of R and D. Yeah. An additional $5 billion in missiles as well. There was, I think, a $24 billion aid package a few years ago that we sent as well, along with about 60 billion to Ukraine. I just think that America has too many problems domestically to be sending money abroad to basically bomb schools accidentally.
King Azuli
So since we have the fact checker. You said 3.8 billion. That is a fact. That is a fact. But it also go towards us spending money in the US and buying all of these missiles and whatever else we need. Now, do you understand that the only ones that are sane that you could actually trust in the Middle east and the only way for you to control the Middle east is by having Israel. You don't know that.
David
So here's my question, because that's kind of a loaded question. How does that directly benefit America being involved in all these know, conflicts out there?
King Azuli
So I said that yesterday on the podcast and I'll share it with you. Also, since you weren't here, imagine right now me and you are in the forest and there's a bear, and the bear is about to attack both of us. I run away. I, meaning the U.S. i run away. And you look at me and you go, what are you doing? The bear is going to eat me. And it's fast enough to catch you, too. It's gonna eat you eventually. The only way for us to win is to stick together.
David
Okay, well, here's my question with this.
King Azuli
So we have one way of sticking together and Winning and defeating the bear, or eventually it eats both of us. What do you think is better?
David
Here's my question with this. So if you just look at the last Operation Midnight Hammer, where we went in there with our B2s and just annihilated, supposedly annihilated their nuclear program completely, right? During this conflict with Iran, there was the prospect of there being a ground invasion. Israel said that they couldn't take part in it because the IDF has just tripped or whatever. It was their excuse. So this is the question to me, is I don't see a direct benefit as an American because we're going in there and doing these operations ourselves when we see it as in our benefit. Right? So why are we going to keep funneling money to a state that, number one, isn't going to join in the escalation of a war that they ended up dragging us into? And then, not only that, they're going to compromise every single peace deal that we negotiate. Right? So how is that to the benefit of Americans spending $70 billion over the matter of a month or a month and a half? Right. Bombing a state that we. According to, I mean, years of foreign policy, it was understood that America shouldn't get involved in a war in Iran. Right. Trump broke that. He also broke a historic precedent that was solidified and established by Teddy Roosevelt that we should never join wars where we're not. We're not struck first. Right? So, I mean, how. How does any of that compute?
King Azuli
Who's the strongest country in the world?
David
America.
King Azuli
With helping Israel with all this. Still the strongest country in the world.
Host Sean
Right?
King Azuli
Why do you think they control the world?
David
What do you mean? So you're saying that America controls the world because of Israel?
King Azuli
I'm asking you.
David
No, you.
King Azuli
You asking a question?
David
There's an implication behind your question. That's what you're saying.
King Azuli
What's the strongest country in the world? The U.S. america. Okay. And they're strong. Although they're helping little baby Israel. Right. But they're still the strongest. How come they've been helping Israel for so many years, since the beginning of Israel. I want you to think about it.
David
Well, America wasn't the only country that helped Israel. Why?
King Azuli
Why would they?
David
Israel was formed because of the Balfour Declaration.
King Azuli
What, you want to tell me that Americans are a bunch of pussies and they're just helping Israel and giving them money for no reason? They're a bunch of philanthropists.
David
No, I mean, you want to know the truth? I see that Israel is a proxy state that we're using to wage war against, you know, indirectly against Russia and China and the Middle east so we can exert control against the United States today.
King Azuli
If you want to buy oil, if you want to go to Libya and buy oil from China, you have to take yen, turn it into dollars, and then buy oil. You have to understand that America controls the whole world. Yeah, they control the oil, they control the money. We're the world's everything.
David
So why do we need to keep sending money to Israel then?
King Azuli
Why do you think?
David
Well, you're proposing this question.
King Azuli
You have to understand that Israel knows everything that is going on in the Middle East. Israel could go into anywhere in the Middle East. Israel has trained military men who learn how to speak Arabic, who could speak Arabic fluently, go in, get intel and make sure that the America will never fall. It will never fall thanks to Israel.
David
Well, the fact check just contradicted you there. It said Israel knows everything that is going on in the Middle East. It said unclear. It also said Israel could go into anywhere in the Middle East. It also said unclear, unclear, unclear. Israel has demonstrated operational. I mean, we have.
King Azuli
So listen, if we're doing what we
David
do, if this is about peacocking and a dick measuring contest, who has the best. No, it's not about Mossad is good. We also have our own. We don't need Israel for this stuff. I don't want to send money there. Instead of bombing schools in Israel, I want to build schools here. That's the difference.
King Azuli
You want to know how much money it would cost? It would cost billions of dollars for you guys to have intel in the Middle east. And as little as you know.
Mike
Well,
King Azuli
Israel is probably the 51st state of the United States of America.
David
So you're agreeing with my premise that they're a proxy state?
King Azuli
I'm agreeing that they're probably America.
David
Could Israel exist without America's support?
King Azuli
No.
David
Okay. No. So can America exist and have influence in the Middle east without Israel's support?
King Azuli
It would cost a lot more money than giving Israel.
David
So what's the benefit?
King Azuli
So any money that you're giving to Israel is going towards us buying stuff
David
from the U.S. it just sounds like, from what you just described, it sounds like it's a relationship that Israel benefits more than America does because we can do the exact same thing that Israel is supposedly helping us with without Israel.
King Azuli
You have to understand that most of the stuff that we're even using here today, like the mic, things like that,
David
it all comes from Israel.
King Azuli
No, it was made by a Jewish man, a Jewish man from Israel.
David
Wait, are you appealing to the Jewish conspiracy theory that Jews make everything?
King Azuli
No, they don't make everything, but they make 25% of Nobel prizes. At a 0.02% of population, you have to understand that there's a great relationship between us and the U.S. now, I was born here, but I was raised in Israel. And I could tell you that Israeli people in Israel are not happy about war. They don't want to be at war.
David
Well, my issue isn't with Israeli people. My issue with the Israeli government, when you have people like Ben GVIR talking about wiping out an entire civilization of Lebanese people who aren't even involved in the war to begin with, do you agree.
King Azuli
Do you agree that if we, if we wanted to, with one click of a button, we could take out Lebanon?
David
Oh, wait, hold up. I want to see you. I don't want you to do that. Why would I ever want you to do that? There's a huge Christian population. Jews make up 25% of Nobel prizes. Apparently that's not true. 15 to 20%. So you're off. Not by much.
King Azuli
So Jews represent, some places, say 25%. So why not?
David
Well, maybe 25 seconds. But here's the thing. Why do you want to bomb? Why does not you. Why does Israel want to bomb?
King Azuli
We could. If you're saying we wanted to wipe them out, you're saying like we're trying to cause a genocide. If we wanted to cause, according to
David
the United nations, what happened in Gaza is technically a genocide.
King Azuli
Do you think you trust the United Nations? I don't agree with them on everything by themselves.
David
Listen, I'm only on their own.
King Azuli
They're a terrorist.
David
I don't see. Here's the thing. I don't agree with everything the United nations does. In fact, they've taken great effort to de industrialize America by putting huge sanctions on and motivating our country to just globalize all of our manufacturing. But that said, you can't ignore a report that comes out, and not just one year, the next year it comes out and it actually raises the number of children. 20,000 children were killed.
King Azuli
Do you think us voting for a president really makes a difference?
David
In what sense?
King Azuli
Do you think that if I voted and you voted, the votes went in and we picked the president?
David
Okay, explain what you're trying to say.
King Azuli
Do you think all of us right now voted for Trump and everybody voted for Trump?
David
Okay, is this in relation to election fraud? Is this in relation to how the Constitutional Republic works?
King Azuli
Yeah. Understand that if elections were 100% real.
David
So you're saying that elections. Now you're going into election denial.
King Azuli
100% are not real.
David
They're not real in America.
King Azuli
They're not real.
David
So who's. Who's choosing our president?
King Azuli
The people above them. Who's the people about our president? Israel's president. There's people above.
David
So wait, Israel.
King Azuli
There's things that are classified. But if you think that there is people that like, that are like.
David
Claim like this. You gotta explain who's the people above.
King Azuli
The knowledge that you have right now. Yeah, everything that you're seeing online that's
David
given to me by the people above
King Azuli
them is what they wanted you to see.
David
They allow me to see.
King Azuli
They want you to go back and
David
we see because they're not really mattered. So the claim is contradicted. The claim is contradicted by the same evidence as above. The Brennan Center's report, the truth about voter fraud found. Hold on, I just scrolled down. Anyway, the claim is contradicted.
King Azuli
Some things are classified and not everybody would know.
David
But again, if you have this unique knowledge, can you share, educate us?
King Azuli
But my thing is like, why would you think that the US Would just go out there and give us billions of dollars if it doesn't benefit them? Of course it benefits them.
David
Well, we can go into that conversation. There are a bunch of conversation. No, no, no. There's a specific retards. Listen. There's a specific establishment, specifically within the Republican Party that I'm a part of, the neocons that in the 1960s, John Pahoric's father, in fact was one of the guys who was writing extensively about this, that they saw as Israel's safety and, and not just that the expansion of the Israeli state as something that had to be implemented into American foreign policy. So they have since the 1960s. They were liberals, they moved over to the right and formed a whole wing, the neocons that have since then pushed for that foreign policy. So. And that became. I mean that kind of ended up metastasizing into us getting involved in the war in Iraq and the reasoning behind it. There's been a hit list of governments that they've been wanting to take out for decades. And now guess what? Why do you think they're starting to talk about Turkey? Because Turkey is the next on the hit list. This is about the. You want to know the truth? Part of the reason why I don't
King Azuli
share it with me.
David
Part of the reason why I don't support continuing to send money to Israel is Because Israel has proven to be a rogue imperialistic state that wants endless expansion from the Euphrates to the Nile because they want, they want to create this homeland for Jewish people, which I understand, it's fine they can have a homeland, but to expand and genocide entire Arabs population in order to have this imperial genocide. We just talked about it. Gaza, why are you wiping.
Host Sean
Why is it.
King Azuli
I mean, so after October 7th in
David
the 1930s, Greek Orthodox population, what happened to that Greek Orthodox population, where'd it
King Azuli
go after October 7th, what happened to us in Israel? That's an equivalent to 40, 50,000 people dying in the U.S. you want to tell me that if right now Mexico came into the US over the border from Tijuana, went into San Diego, that would be charged.
David
That would be war. But here's the thing.
King Azuli
40,000. They killed 40,000 people and then took back a few thousand with them. Do you think anyone would be allowed to speak Spanish in the US Even in the world?
David
You're saying that if Mexico attacked America, Americans would start genociding Spanish speakers in America indiscriminately.
King Azuli
America. America would destroy them, get rid of all of.
David
We would go to war with Mexico? Yes.
King Azuli
What happened with the Japs? Hiroshima, Nagasaki? Do you think America is scared of dropping a bomb?
Hunter
No.
King Azuli
That's why nobody would attack like this America. But we went in there and we lost a lot of soldiers. We didn't go into genocide. We went in there and we fought. We wanted our hostages back. We only asked for our hostages back.
David
So why, why have 90% of. Why have 90% of buildings and structures in Gaza been destroyed? Why. Why is civilian collateral.
King Azuli
Let me, Let me answer that. When you have them receiving billions of dollars and building underground tunnels instead of rebuilding Gaza and now where we're walking.
David
Can I just tell you something? It just sounds like an excuse because you're using the same. Israel is using the same reasoning.
King Azuli
But I'll let you.
David
Christian villages, but I let you speak.
Ben
Go ahead.
King Azuli
Then we're coming in and every second someone comes out of a different tunnel, a different location, and either bombs us, shoots us, when we're trying to get back our hostages. So what do we have to do? We have to go in and remove buildings where we believe these are locations that underground, in the tunnels, we have our women and children.
David
So question. What.
King Azuli
What are the tunnels? Destroyed some of the houses.
David
What do the hostages have to do with southern Lebanon? Why are you bombing southern Lebanon to get your hostages back from Gaza? Why is Israel doing it?
King Azuli
What's in Lebanon?
David
Hezbollah? Is that what you're reasoning? Okay, they have tunnels under Christian villages that they're bombing.
King Azuli
Really? Show me one Christian village. I mean, there are countless videos now by Israel.
David
The IDF shared videos of entire villages getting wiped out. Netanyahu retweeted it.
King Azuli
We share those villages because these were terrorists. Not us.
David
Not us.
King Azuli
No.
David
Change the tune.
King Azuli
No, that wasn't us. That wasn't us. So you didn't bomb Christian villages.
David
Israel didn't bomb Christian villages.
King Azuli
It wasn't Israel. It was terrorists that came and attacked them and literally destroyed villages, burned them.
David
So you're saying raped the women. Hezbollah was attacking Christianity.
King Azuli
Whether it was Hezbollah or another terrorist group, you could check, but it was not Israel.
Host Sean
We're at 15, so let's wrap this one up, too. Okay, Final statements for you guys.
King Azuli
I. I think that he's smarter than what he's pretending to be. I think he knows that the relationship between Israel and the United States is a very good relationship. It's the one way for us, the U.S. because in my opinion, us first, America first. I'm not for Israel first. I'm for America. I love America. This is my country. But I have to tell you that the relationship between the both of us, and because I hold dual citizenship, I like to speak for both of us. It is the best relationship we can hold. Because just like that, we could get control the whole Middle East. We could control the money, we could control the oil. We will always be the strongest country in the world. When we go in and we bomb some. Whatever that is in Iran, some people say it was an atomic bomb. Some say there wasn't an atomic bomb. But when we bombed that area, and we're going out there to help the civilians, but we're also scaring other ones who believe they could come take on us, like Russia, like China, that they believe they could go to war with America. And they see what we're doing. That show that we're doing is not just for the Iranians. That's also for them on the other side. For them to know we're not around, but over there with them. We would have a lot of dead people on our side. On the other side, not many. How many died Americans,
David
are you asking me? I thought this was a closing statement.
King Azuli
I think it was zero. Zero Americans died. Only money was sent, but zero Americans died. But the kind of balls that we show that we have today, nobody's fucking with us.
Mike
Cool.
Host Sean
You want to close?
David
Yeah. America first to me means taking care of Americans first. I don't see how continuing to be coupled with Israel is something that's necessarily beneficial to America. Israel as a state has dragged us into numerous conflicts. They've shown absolutely no willingness to actually strike peace deals and uphold peace deals in the region.
King Azuli
It ended up with part of our landlord.
David
This is my closing statement. Let me just finish. It ended up with our military committing atrocious acts that, you know, our tax money paid for, which is bombing a school in Iran. 170 little girls got killed because of that. I don't want my tax money funding that. I don't want my tax money funding more wars. And that's pretty much where I'm coming from. Ben, you're a nice guy. Hey, guys.
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King Azuli
Thank you for showing up.
Host Sean
Absolutely. Good with Mike. Yeah, go ahead.
Ben
Perfect.
Host Sean
All right, so I think the Internet and the algorithm gets excited about exciting arguments, not necessarily good solutions. So I want to try a little bit different of a technique. I'm going to ask more questions to get more of an understanding, see if we can come to a little bit more of an agreement. So when you say support America should support Israel, is that unconditional?
King Azuli
No.
Host Sean
Okay, so what would those conditions be that you would say like, hey, we should back off a little bit.
King Azuli
I think there should be a win win situation on both sides.
Host Sean
Okay.
King Azuli
If there isn't a win win situation, nobody should help anybody.
Host Sean
Okay?
King Azuli
Like I said, we should take each man for his own.
Host Sean
Okay?
King Azuli
Right. So America first. We're in America. America should take care of America. But whether America has given money out or not, for some reason, it seems like it likes to suppress their own people.
Host Sean
Understandable. So I would say.
King Azuli
Right?
Host Sean
Yeah, yeah.
King Azuli
Because we kind of look like a third world country. You go to Dubai, it's beautiful.
Host Sean
So I would say I would agree with the point. America first. The goal is we don't want to hurt Americans interests. And first of all, that's keeping Americans healthy and the men and women not in war, 100%. Okay, so as we're moving forward, if Israel is bringing America into war, would that be a good reason to retract the support for Israel?
King Azuli
As long as the war makes sense for the United States, I think America actually benefits more than Israel when it comes down to this war. Like I said, they are scaring off other big enemies. When you have somebody like Russia, for example, why are we helping Ukraine? Why are we taking Ukraine's side and not Russia's side? We're taking Ukraine's side to show Russia that we have more allies over there. We did this war to show Russia and China that don't mess with us. If we wouldn't benefit from it, we would never send money. You guys have to understand that there has to be some sort of a benefit. I mean, Trump isn't stupid. The people at the top aren't stupid. The people that are running this country aren't stupid. They know what they're doing and they're very good at doing it. But Jews and Israelis have been helping the US for many, many years. And it just made a lot of sense for them to help us over there because we're like their best intel.
Host Sean
So that sounds like you're not putting conditions on the support. So what would be a condition in which you were like, hey, a specific scenario where Israel, or just an ally in general did something that America should back off on their support.
King Azuli
So, for example, I looked at how much it's going to cost for the US to have enough intel in the Middle east, and it seemed like it was going to be 50 to 100 billion a year just to have the kind of intel that they're getting from us. So cost benefit analysis, we're saving the money. The 3.8 billion that is going towards Israel every single year is towards buying weapons and putting money into the U.S. we have to purchase things. So it's almost like a credit. It's like we're receiving actual funds. Now. Who dies the most? Israelis. Young Israeli men, 18 to 21. They go into war, they're the ones dying. We've lost in the last three years about 4,000 people. 5,000 people. Between civilians to military men. Do you think we want that? Israel is very small and every person that dies, a whole family feels it. 5,000. The whole country feels it. So there's not many people in Israel.
Host Sean
So would you say a war of aggression would be something that it would be Able to back away from as far as America's support on Israel.
King Azuli
What do you mean by a war of aggression?
Host Sean
So with Iran, it, it seems as if America is trying to do what they can to leave. And it does not seem like that is the interest of Israel at the moment.
King Azuli
Well, at the, in the beginning, America said that they were going to help the people of Iran. If, you know, Iran wasn't an Islamic country. Right. Most of the people there was Zoroastrian Christians, some were Jews, but all of them became. They were forced to become Muslims or else they were going to be killed.
Host Sean
So are you suggesting regime.
King Azuli
Sorry, for the second, they rebelled against the regime, they killed over a hundred thousand people, women, children, men, athletes. What are you going to do? Just let them do that? Are you going to let them just kill everybody? So we went in there to save them. America and Israel was a plan together. But it was, I believe it was Trump that said, start fighting and we'll come help you. That's where I got also pissed off with Trump because it took months for him to go help. And by that time we lost 100,000 people there.
Host Sean
So historically, regime change that us has been involved in, there's been 70 attempts. Two times it's been successful. Fact checked will show three. But we have Japan and Germany. Do you agree that attempting a regime change in Iran was even feasible?
Isaac
Foreign,
King Azuli
it's almost impossible to change a regime in another country when you're not there, right? Well, I'd say it's almost impossible.
Host Sean
I would say it's been shown to be impossible.
King Azuli
It's almost impossible. Like you have to be there. So let's just say it's impossible.
Host Sean
Well, if we look at Iraq and. Iraq and Afghanistan, that still didn't work.
King Azuli
It's. It's literally impossible. But you're also dealing over there with people that don't live like us here in the West. Here we are more humanized, normalized. We can have a conversation. We could agree to disagree. Over there, you're dealing with people that believe that everyone should be Muslim or they shouldn't exist. Now, why did we want to go in there and stop them? Because they shouldn't have an atomic bomb. You don't know what they're going to do with it. Let's put it like this. If Gaza had an atomic weapon, there wouldn't be Israel, but Israel. If we have an atomic weapon, atomic bomb, which I'm sure we hold a few.
Host Sean
Not allowed to say that, though.
King Azuli
I'm sure we hold a few. But Gaza still exists. We would never fire off an atomic weapon. On the other hand, you with the U.S. we will.
Host Sean
So the U.S. even though it's shown that it cannot change regimes, you're still in support of giving a shot.
King Azuli
I don't think you could change the regime.
Host Sean
Okay.
King Azuli
And I wouldn't, I wouldn't want them to go in and change the regime.
Ben
Okay.
King Azuli
I would definitely want them to go and save some people and at the same time get rid of an atomic bomb. That to me is the most important thing. So you agree that we should help them? I mean, what do you mean by
Host Sean
their own people define help? Because we tried to help them when we replaced their democratically elected, more or less president.
King Azuli
So when you have a hundred thousand people and it's women, children and men athletes, everybody just getting slaughtered in the middle of the street.
Host Sean
I think we're changing the question, but I'll let you keep going.
King Azuli
Would you say we should help them or not help them?
Host Sean
So my question was, as a strong
King Azuli
country, should we go out there and help them or just let them keep dying?
Host Sean
I think we're picking and choosing things based off of fear rather than the reality of the situation.
King Azuli
So just let them die. I think that, I mean, we let them die. It was a hundred thousand people that died. You saw, right? You saw how they were shooting them in the middle of the street. Right.
Host Sean
I feel like we're going back and forth with points rather than fulfilling the conditions that we're looking for.
King Azuli
Should we let them die and just let that regime continue and let them have an atomic bomb? Or should we go in there and do something?
Host Sean
And something is get rid of the
King Azuli
atomic bomb, see if we could help them a little bit, save some people.
Host Sean
But we have not shown that we've been able to do that.
King Azuli
Did we get rid of the atomic bomb as they say? It seems like we knew weren't there, right? We don't know. But as they say, we got rid of the atomic bomb, right?
Host Sean
Did we not have that under control under the jcpoa?
King Azuli
No. Why do we go in there if we had it under control? Well, we left because we didn't.
Host Sean
What do you mean by we didn't?
King Azuli
We didn't have anything under control over there. That's why we went in there and bombed it.
Isaac
I.
King Azuli
We're worried that they're going to use it.
Host Sean
Can we? I haven't used the fact checked a lot, but yeah, just keep an eye behind them. So I think they had people in there every single day checking to see what the enrichment levels were at. And I would that be.
King Azuli
Are you okay with getting rid of their leaders? The ones that scream kill the US Kill America. Death to America. Do you think it's okay that we went in there and took them out?
Host Sean
So I think the death to America is a fantastic chant. What they said when translated was death to American policies, which I'm against, which is happening. It was death to the situation that led to the CIA overthrowing their government. Would you agree with that or do you think it's just a blanket.
King Azuli
I agree that every country has. I agree that every country has some bad policies and some good policies.
Host Sean
Okay.
King Azuli
What's nice about America is that you have freedom. What's not nice about America is that with all the freedom that we have, we're also being brainwashed to keep us as sheeps.
Host Sean
It seems like the only reason we go in somewhere is for fear. And I would say the. We're going to probably say it wrong. The levy on affair when we went,
King Azuli
when we went in to grab Osama bin Laden, was that from fear?
Host Sean
Different topic, but I'll keep going. So the operation was to have Egyptian Jewish members bomb some libraries, different places that the Egyptian, not the Egyptians, where in Egypt. So it would keep the Americans supporting. No, this was in. Somebody help me out here. 1960, 1953. No, no, no. We're. I'm, I'm wrong on the date, but I think Israel was like six years in or something like that. And they're like, hey, we need some more support here. That wasn't for Americans interests. That was Israel's interest.
King Azuli
Okay.
Host Sean
So I think we're showing conditions where it's not necessarily the best for American interest. And we should be able to vocalize what those interests are and when they're crossing them, we should be able to reduce some of those.
King Azuli
Have you ever done a favor for somebody, an ally, a friend, to know that now he owes you a favor?
Host Sean
But we're getting back to conditions. We do agree that there are conditions. I'm trying to lay out what those conditions are.
King Azuli
As allies, as friends, sometimes we do favors.
Host Sean
I practice response. I'm ready.
King Azuli
So if we did some favor for Israel, it's. So Israel is going to owe us a favor back?
Host Sean
Yes.
King Azuli
A lot of the things that we do in Israel is behind the scenes. Why behind the scenes? Why is it classified? Because the end of the day, if people are going to know about it, we'll be fucked.
Host Sean
So the difference between an ally and an adversary are conditions. You want to make sure they're not stepping over the line. It seems that you're advocating that everything that Israel has done and their plans are, is not a condition that they have crossed. But I'm showing that they are crossing American interests as far as putting us at risk, whether it be from blowback, whether it be from attempted regime change, that doesn't work. But it seems that you're not interested. I'm not gonna put words in your mouth. I'll let you respond.
King Azuli
Yeah, yeah, I think, huh.
Host Sean
Final point. We're at 15.
King Azuli
So everything that happens in the world happens off of power. Especially with men. Men, for example, when they start making money, it's not about the money anymore. Now it's about the power. How much more power can I gain? Well, the men at the top feel the same. This is a power move for the US and they know with Israel, with our technology. Look, even in Israel right now, every single year, you have more startup companies than any place around the world. Put them all together, you have more startup companies in Israel. Why? Because every day we're improving things. And all of those things, America gets every single part of it. The fact that we as the people here, the normal civilians, don't receive some of that technology, that doesn't mean that America isn't using it. America will always control the world as long as they baby Israel. Now we're getting to a point that, that Israel almost doesn't need any money anymore from the U.S. guess what? The U.S. doesn't really like that. Because as long as the U.S. gives us money, then the U.S. is also in control of us. We can't make a move without the U.S. but of course, you'll see Trump saying that he told Bibi not to do this, and Bibi went ahead and did it. And what the fuck? It's all a show. Two actors. When you see the movie, you see the movie producer, the director. No, you see the actors here the same way the people on the front line actors. They're putting on a show for you. You're eating it. But what I love about the people in America is that they have a lot of complaints because they've never been to a third world country. Go live somewhere in Pakistan, go live somewhere in India, go to Iraq. You want to escape out of there within one hour. You live here, you enjoy everything that we have here, but you still complain, complaining at the people at the top, like they don't know what they're doing. If they didn't know what they were doing, you wouldn't be able to even have that colorful shirt on because they would burn you alive.
Host Sean
All right, close it off. I think I did a poor job at keeping you on point as we were talking about conditions and moving America were a point that we could talk about that line and if it was crossed. But I appreciate you chatting with me.
King Azuli
Of course, brother. Thank you.
Host Sean
Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode. If you agree, if you disagree, I'd love to hear it.
King Azuli
I read every single comment. Means a lot to me.
Host Sean
Thank you so much.
Hunter
All right, what are the main strategic benefits the US Received from its alliance with Israel?
King Azuli
You guys coming at me? Well, now I have to pull out ChatGPT.
Hunter
Hey, think smarter, not harder.
Isaac
Yes.
King Azuli
So when it comes down to military, the branches that we have, we're the most advanced military in the world.
Hunter
Of course. Yes.
King Azuli
Do you know that?
Hunter
Of course I know that. My father was in the military.
King Azuli
Israeli military.
Hunter
No, no, us. I know you were, though. Secret military. Right, the secret one. We can't talk about it. Okay. That secret language.
King Azuli
Yes. Fifth ones. Okay, okay.
Hunter
My mistake.
King Azuli
So your father was in the military.
David
Yeah.
King Azuli
Where did he serve?
Hunter
Marine. Marine.
Mike
Marine.
King Azuli
Amazing. Love Marine. Guys, when it comes down to Israeli military, we always have to think 10 steps ahead because everybody wants to kill us.
Hunter
Okay.
King Azuli
We're in a very small environment, the country is tiny, and around us, everybody's an enemy.
Hunter
Ah, okay.
King Azuli
Do you know that?
Hunter
Yes, yes. Like Ali, you know, like iron versus Israel. I mean, I think it's going to be bigger if you. Ali, fight like. I know you keep saying bigger than Gypsy. Yeah, well, Gypsy's, like, kind of a scumbag. You know what I mean? Like, everyone wants, like. Yeah, yeah, no, no, of course. But like, he's like. He's like, actually a scumbag. No one gives a about him. But like, Ali, there might be some good conflict there, you know?
King Azuli
So I'll tell you, Ali actually backed out.
Hunter
What?
King Azuli
Yeah. I don't believe it.
Hunter
I don't believe he pre posted my video. I. No, you can't be dissing my boy like that. I don't believe it.
King Azuli
He backed out. I'm telling you.
Hunter
I don't believe it.
King Azuli
Ali doesn't want to fight.
Hunter
Listen, you claim to be.
King Azuli
Let's be real.
Hunter
You claim to be Jesus Christ on a podcast. So I don't know if you're the most trustworthy person.
Evelyn
Who.
King Azuli
Who did I claim to be?
Hunter
You claim to be Jesus Christ on a podcast. I'm like. I'm quoting that, by the way. I'm not like, oh, I made it up.
King Azuli
No, no, no, you're quoting it. I said people are messaging me saying I'm the Jesus Christ of this time.
Hunter
Okay, who messaged you that? Some like crackhead on the street.
King Azuli
No, no, no, no. Actually, 20 year old boy named Van.
Hunter
What?
King Azuli
Kidding.
Hunter
Oh, I thought someone hacked my account for a second. I was like, got to get this checked.
King Azuli
I'll tell you one thing that I do preach, is for men to be better, stronger, stay away from.
Hunter
Okay, okay.
King Azuli
Right. Whether I share funny stories, old stories of mine to get people wild up, to get them going, to listen, whether I pull things out of context, everything that you see on the Internet, that is all my plan.
Hunter
Yeah. I see you with like laser eyes.
King Azuli
Laser eyes. Everything is my plan. Everything. Even with the big creators that talk about me, they all got paid for it, just so you know. Yeah, everybody. Everybody. And then you guys, you know, the smaller creators. Oh no, the smaller creators are the ones that coming in and they're like, oh, they're getting a bunch of views with King of Zulai. Let me go ahead and put that on my page.
Hunter
You're a nice guy, but you're not talking to. Talking to me like this. You're not gonna call me small like this.
King Azuli
You're not gonna. You're not talking to somebody that's just gonna let them speak to you this way. You know what I mean?
Hunter
You gotta.
King Azuli
What you gonna do? You want to run it?
Hunter
Let's run it.
King Azuli
Let's run it.
Hunter
Let's do it. Honestly. Yeah.
King Azuli
This guy don't want to talk about. He's ready. Just wanted to meet me. I appreciate that.
Evelyn
Oh,
King Azuli
look, you got a bright future ahead of you.
Mike
Yeah.
King Azuli
All right, but this is a debate. That's how I'm gonna take it. Serious.
Hunter
Oh, okay, okay. Lock in. Lock in.
Evelyn
All right.
King Azuli
I'm sorry, not. You're not scooping around somebody that's just going to let you speak.
Hunter
I saw him. Lock in for a second. All right. I don't want to.
King Azuli
All right.
Hunter
Superior intellect.
King Azuli
All right, all right, Gotcha. Let's do it.
Hunter
Okay, let's go.
King Azuli
He wants to be quiet. We could speak telepathically. No, no, no. I could enter your mind. I'm the Messiah. Look at. Fact check it. Fact check it. The Messiah is.
Hunter
He's really claimed that he is. It's true.
King Azuli
The Jesus Christ of this time. That's what they say.
Hunter
No, I think it's so.
King Azuli
You know, every 2,000 years, somebody like me arrives at first. It was Abraham. No, first people, Adam. Okay, 2,000 years later, Abraham. 2,000 years later. Jesus Christ. How long ago was Jesus Christ? 2000, 2000 years ago.
Hunter
Like I said, superior intellect. Am I wrong?
King Azuli
Guys, every 2,000 years, somebody like me arrives. But it's very hard for me to tell you humans.
Hunter
Oh.
King Azuli
Who I am, because anytime I share who I am, you guys, for some reason, just don't.
Hunter
We don't believe you. Like, n. Okay, okay. Why aren't you fighting in the front lines in Israel? Like, I heard you beat up 50 guys.
Ben
30.
Hunter
30.
King Azuli
30 got jumped.
Hunter
They need your help.
King Azuli
Dude, I got jumped by 30 guys.
Hunter
Listen, listen.
King Azuli
But they didn't take me out.
Hunter
Listen.
King Azuli
We can't take me out.
Hunter
No, no, no. But that's what I'm saying. So you're like a survivor. Listen, we end this whole debate right now. If you just go to Israel, we can end, like, the American connection. Yeah. And it'll be done.
King Azuli
It'll be done.
Hunter
America won't be no more.
King Azuli
I like this guy.
Host Sean
He did his homework on you.
Hunter
He did.
King Azuli
He knows everything about me.
Mike
I didn't.
Hunter
I didn't study about Israel, but I know a lot about you.
King Azuli
Yes.
Isaac
All right.
King Azuli
I'll tell you. I would go and fight in Israel.
Hunter
Okay.
King Azuli
But I'm too much of an asset to the U.S. okay. They wouldn't let me go.
Hunter
I understand. That makes sense, honestly.
King Azuli
Get me. I arrive, 10 people want to come battle me for. For what reason? What bad did I do to you? I understand we have some feminists here. We have. Some people don't like Israel. Some people want abortion. I don't know.
Hunter
They're gonna give you a lot of. But they are me.
King Azuli
They are.
Host Sean
All right, let's move on to the next person.
King Azuli
That's good, man.
Host Sean
Thanks for watching all the way to the end. Guys, please hit like and subscribe. It helps us grow the show and helps us get bigger guests. Thank you so much.
Isaac
All right.
Host Sean
So do you disagree with his claim about Israel?
Ben
I do.
King Azuli
Explain why.
Ben
Shalom, Benjamin.
King Azuli
Shalom.
Ben
It's good to see you.
Jade
Name?
King Azuli
Lia. Very nice watch.
Ben
It's Armenian.
Evelyn
Yeah.
Ben
So, yeah. I think national interest actually shapes our state and foreign policy. Would you agree with. Would you see that the United States national interest, which is the interest of we the people, we are the ones who elect the candidates. We are the ones who support them for various policies, both state and foreign. So would you agree that the US Interest, meaning We the people, is shifting into not supporting Israel?
King Azuli
It seems like less people are supporting Israel at the moment. Moment.
Ben
Yeah, statistically, more so than ever.
King Azuli
More than ever. More than ever. And it's actually sad to me, you know, because if you go to Israel, you see how when we see Americans, it's like, oh, you're from America. It's almost like Moses arrived.
Hunter
They.
King Azuli
We treat Americans amazing. Like, we love Americans. So for us to know that Americans don't like us now because of whatever they see online, that kind of sucks for us, you know? And I'm speaking for Israel because, again, I'm Israeli, but I'm also American. Born here, but raised there part time, then raised here the rest of the time. It's very sad for me to see the amount of hate that we get. For example, I have Israeli on my Instagram because I'm Israeli and I have that up there. Then everybody calls me a baby killer, you know, a murderer. Supporting a genocide. There isn't a genocide. A genocide would mean going in there and killing everybody.
Ben
But we're not doing that by the definition of genocide. It doesn't. That's not the definition of justice. Let me interrupt just for a second. With all due respect, my support for Israel changed. Obviously, I can speak Hebrew. I studied in Israel. Beautiful. I studied at the Holy Language Institute. I've traveled the world. No, I. I'm a goy. I'm going. But I.
King Azuli
You're the other nation.
Ben
I've studied all over the world. Worked all over the world. 58 countries. Worked in Palestine, worked in Israel. I love Jewish people. I really, really do. I follow a Jewish rabbi. I'm a student of a Jewish rabbi. His name is Yahushua Hamashiach Ben David Ben Yosef. Jesus, the Messiah, Son of David, son of Joseph.
King Azuli
Where is he?
Ben
He's everywhere. He's omnipresent.
King Azuli
Okay?
Ben
Jesus, the Messiah. So let me. You can't compare to Jesus. You're blaspheming him and your case to Americans need to, like. Okay, Americans need to support Israel.
King Azuli
Will you diminish. I didn't compare myself to Jesus. I said, people compare me to Jesus.
Ben
Okay.
King Azuli
No, I don't think so.
Ben
Yeah, well, let me just. Okay, I'll affirm that you don't compare it to Jesus.
Evelyn
No.
Ben
That doesn't help bolster American support for Israel when you. When you tout such things. But long story short, my support ended when I was a missionary in Artsakh, in Armenia, okay. With the Armenians. And I saw people that I loved, women and children that were bombed by Israeli drones that were sold to Azerbaijan. And you can fact check me on this. They have A can you check if
King Azuli
it was really sold to them? It'll pop up.
Isaac
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
King Azuli
Because I believe it was.
Ben
Yeah. Israel was a conspiracy. No, no, no, no, no, no. They have a very good relationship. They are allies, Azerbaijan and Israel. And Azerbaijan provides gas to Israel, a lot of gas to them, and they in turn provide weapons. And those weapons were used on Azerbaijan's only enemy, which is Armenian Christians. And I know since you live in the LA area, you grew up there, you probably have a lot of friends
King Azuli
that are a lot of Armenian friends.
Ben
I'm sure you love them and respect them recently on the Wise Nuts, but I'm correct.
Host Sean
Israel did sell drones.
King Azuli
And was it at the time of that war or was it.
Host Sean
It was February 26th.
King Azuli
Okay, when was the war? Was it at the same time of the war?
Host Sean
Which, what year was that war?
Ben
2020.
Host Sean
Let me see if that.
Ben
September 27, 2020.
King Azuli
Like, were they going into war and Israel was like, go ahead and get some drones from us and then you guys will be good.
Ben
Yeah, they've had a lot.
King Azuli
Was that before?
Host Sean
Yeah, they sold it in 2009-2012.
King Azuli
Okay, wait, yeah, so one second. So they sold it in 2009-2012. Not in the time of the war.
Ben
Hold on.
King Azuli
But then they used it against the Armenians in 2020.
Ben
So I was going to say they've had a long standing relationship. They're allies. And soads.
King Azuli
It wasn't Ben.
Ben
It's not Ben. Let me and them recognizing the genocide. I'll just clear this up. Recently they recognized the Armenian genocide.
King Azuli
Correct.
Ben
That's just a PR stunt to help bolster their credibility in the public eye of us Americans and to help maintain support for. For Israel, which is greatly diminishing, as you pointed out.
King Azuli
Do you know where is the biggest Armenian church in the world and the most beautiful Armenian church in the world world?
Ben
Yeah, it's in Armenia.
King Azuli
No, it's in Israel.
Ben
No, it's not.
King Azuli
Look it up.
Host Sean
What's. What's the church called?
King Azuli
Look it up. It was a beautiful church.
Host Sean
The Church of the Holy from Armenia over here, by the way.
King Azuli
Yeah, yeah, I could tell.
Ben
The, the, the Church of the Holy Supper is a historic site that is maintained by the Armenians.
Host Sean
No, it says largest church is in Armenia.
King Azuli
But is there a beautiful St. Gregory the Illuminator?
Ben
My family and I, we attend there every Sunday, so. I know. Let, let me finish, please.
Host Sean
Go ahead.
Ben
On top of that, they've been indiscriminately bombing people in Lebanon. Lebanon is 51%, approximately Christian and has a Christian leadership. Christian president. We should support Lebanon. We wouldn't be supporting Israel today. This wouldn't be a problem. Listen, I support the Jewish people for their right to exist. I don't support Israel's right to exist. I don't support Zionism. I'll tell you why I'm a Wilsonist. I support Woodrow Wilson's policies during the Paris Peace conference and in 1919, the Treaty of Severus. And the idea by the US State Department at the time was not only to settle peace in the regions between these nations and then these borders to distinguish them, but we had what was called the Treaty of Severus. Okay. This was the treaty that was signed by Turkey that they were going to cede back all the land that they had stolen from the Armenians. How do we secured that? We. Woodrow Wilson was prepared to send 200,000 troops at the time. The, the vote didn't pass through the Congress, through the Senate. So what ended up happening was Russia basically said to Turkey, yeah, we don't need to follow that. And then they had the Treaty of Lusine. Long story short, half of Turkey would now be part of Armenia. Armenia would secure our interest in the region. And we have to understand, Woodrow Wilson also signed on to the Balfour Declaration. Declaration to send Jews back to Palestine, but so did mustache man. I mean, mustache man sent 300,000, you know, in the Havar Agreement. So, you know, Zionism is strange. I don't understand it.
King Azuli
What's the meaning of Zionists?
Ben
Okay. Zionist is the right to a Jewish state, plain and simple. Religious Zionism.
King Azuli
Do you agree that a Jewish state should exist?
Ben
No.
King Azuli
So you're saying that it's just find Jews to just go and not have their homeland?
Ben
Yeah, before they were more like gypsies for like 2000 years. I prefer that.
King Azuli
Why do you prefer that?
Ben
I'll tell you why you prefer that. Yeah, I do prefer that.
King Azuli
Why do you like. You like the fact that we've been kicked out of so many countries because we're doing so well financially?
Ben
Well over, I think it's 100, 910 countries.
King Azuli
Jews have been 109.
Ben
And you have to ask the question, like, at some point, why is that happening? Right? It's because like forever the Goim have been anti Semitic. Is that, is that the narrative? But, but the question is, the question is we don't see any accountability. Why is that? When we see like the national interest is shifting.
King Azuli
Do you know that Israel is the only land that's given.
Ben
Let me finish my Point. And I'll allow you to answer. I'll let you. I'll let you answer with respect. The national interest is massively shifting against Israel here in America. And obviously that's happened in 109 countries where they shifted against the Jews and they got them out of the country and then they started to prosper. Like in Germany in 1950, 1933.
King Azuli
Do you know why in Germany they took us out?
Ben
Yeah, yeah.
King Azuli
Why? Because we made a lot of money. And then how did their economy go up? By taking our money, taking our diamond, taking our gold, taking all of our business and then killing us.
Ben
That's not how their economy.
King Azuli
That's exactly how.
Ben
I'm not going to make a defense for 1933 Germany, but I think the Weimar Republic was terrible.
King Azuli
And you're probably going to tell me that also 6 million Jews didn't die.
Ben
No, no, I'm not going to dispute those claims or argue that or there wasn't a genocide. Listen, listen. Apparently according to you, a genocide is when the entire nation is wiped out. And that didn't happen.
King Azuli
Okay, so wait, wait, you just said.
Ben
Did you not say we're not committing genocide because we haven't wiped out the entire nation of Palestine.
King Azuli
Did they not try to wipe out every single Ashkenazi Jew.
Ben
Listen.
King Azuli
And then start moving from country to country?
Ben
Jews that were being killed, they started
King Azuli
with the Ashkenazi Jew, but then they started Ashkenazi. Why?
Ben
That's disrespectful to the rest of the
King Azuli
Jews because after that they went and try to kill all the Sephardic Jews.
Ben
Okay, where are the Sephardic Jews from?
King Azuli
Go ahead, share. Are they from Germany? Because they're not.
Ben
Are you seriously Jewish? I'm really questioning.
King Azuli
I think I speak more Hebrew than
Ben
you come with the facts, dude.
King Azuli
Where are they from?
Ben
Sephardim. They're from where?
King Azuli
Yes, go ahead.
Ben
Right, There's Mountain Jews. The Mountain Jews are from where? So you think us, Georgia and Armenia.
King Azuli
Us Moroccans are not Sephardic Jews.
David
Jews.
Ben
No. You guys are. Well, yeah. Moroccans are technically Sephardic. Yeah. Moroccan Jews.
Isaac
Right.
King Azuli
Okay. So they were just about to get to my people and then they were stopped. Right. Right before they killed us. Okay, so they started with the Ashkenazi Jew. Right. In Europe.
Ben
Okay.
King Azuli
Right In Germany.
Ben
No.
King Azuli
And Poland. No.
Ben
Yeah.
King Azuli
Or no.
Ben
Yes.
King Azuli
I know.
Ben
At the end. At the end of the day.
King Azuli
So they try to wipe us out just because they were stopped.
Ben
I want to.
King Azuli
Causing a genocide.
Ben
I want to direct us back to that question. Why don't Jewish people take accountability Or Israelis when they see, like, Americans are watching the statues of Mary and the crucifixes of Christ being broken by IDF soldiers?
King Azuli
We're watching Christians 100 don't agree with what I saw. I saw that they broke the.
Ben
Call them out the.
King Azuli
The cross that they broke. I saw that. I don't agree with that.
Ben
I mean, never disrespectful.
King Azuli
I never disrespect. I never disrespect any religion.
Ben
Okay.
King Azuli
And anyone that does to me is worthless.
Ben
Okay. I think.
King Azuli
Because I'll tell you something. For me, people of God are people of God.
Ben
Yeah.
King Azuli
And God created these religions. Do you believe that? Although man created it, but it was all God's plan. Do you believe that God created it? I accept it.
Ben
I agree. Do you believe that The Germans of 1933 Germany were white supremacists? Do you believe that?
King Azuli
Well, they clearly didn't like us. Right.
Ben
Okay. But you would say that they're white supremacists. Right. Okay. So this is why we shouldn't support the Nazis because they were white supremacists. Well, this is the feeling that we have towards Jews in America that Jewish people are ethnosuppremacists as well. And that's something that people don't like. So it's not just Israel. It's. It's a. It's really.
King Azuli
Do you feel that Jewish people in America don't like you?
Ben
No, No. I have lots of Jewish friends.
King Azuli
Do you feel like they're against you or.
Ben
Any one of my pastors is a Jew.
King Azuli
Okay, so what? Exactly.
Ben
He agrees with me. So Jewish supremacism is a disease. And this is one of the major contributors to why is. Because there's no accountability for the actions that the IDF takes against Christians in Gaza. In fact, we just continue to say more support.
King Azuli
And when you sit here and tell me that Israel shouldn't exist and we shouldn't have a state, the second you say that, it sounds pretty crazy because you were in Israel.
Ben
Yeah, yeah.
Hunter
You.
King Azuli
It was good for you.
Isaac
The Jews should.
King Azuli
Christians there. There's Muslims.
Ben
Don't get me wrong. The Jews should remain in Israel.
King Azuli
The Israeli Defense Force, which means that they. They take care of everybody.
Ben
And there's Christians in the force, and
King Azuli
there's Christians and there's also Muslims. Understand what you're saying.
Ben
Let me clarify the statement here. I believe Jews should remain in Israel. And in fact, I want all Jews to live in Israel. I think that's the best.
King Azuli
Okay, so now you're saying we should exist, we should have a land.
Ben
Hold on.
King Azuli
I should go back to Israel.
Ben
Hold on. They. They belong in Israel. They should go back to Israel.
King Azuli
A Jewish made that mic. The platform that you guys are using right now is made by a Jewish man. Everything that you're using, either a Jewish man invented or Jewish investors.
Ben
We're not going to go there.
King Azuli
For some reason you want all Jews to go back to Israel. We're going to stay on and not be here. It's already looking like a third world country. You want it to look like what?
Ben
We're going to stay on topic, the Jewish trash can. The Jews should go back to Israel
King Azuli
and should go back to Africa.
Hunter
No, no, no.
King Azuli
And Arabs should go back to the Middle East.
Ben
No, we like the black and white,
King Azuli
should go back to where? To Germany.
Ben
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
King Azuli
And we should give this land back to the native Americans.
Ben
Let me finish.
King Azuli
We should give this land back to the native Americans.
Ben
I'll let you make your point. Okay? Let me finish. I'll let you make your point.
King Azuli
Where is my Indian? I believe some Indians here yesterday. Bring the Indians back.
Ben
Don't you tell me what to do.
King Azuli
All of us need to go. No Native American Indians.
Ben
Let me finish. Let me finish, man. So I believe all Jews should go back to Israel.
Host Sean
Yes.
Ben
But I think Israel should be under the control of Christians. So I'm for a third state solution, which is the Christians come over, take over the government and then, then we can really be allies with Israel. Then at that point we're morally aligned because there's no such thing as Judeo Christian values. There's just Christian values and then Jewish values.
King Azuli
So do you want the Christians to leave Israel?
Ben
No, I want them to stay. Oh yeah, I want them to take over the government.
King Azuli
So you want all Jews in Israel? Yeah. You don't want them anywhere?
Ben
I want them protected from all harm.
King Azuli
All in Israel.
Ben
I want them all protected. I don't want any harm to come to Jewish people.
King Azuli
Okay, but the biggest problem that we have, you know what's crazy? That people don't think about is.
Ben
Isn't that an interesting point though, don't you think?
Mike
More.
King Azuli
It's pretty crazy to me because people don't understand.
Ben
Why is it crazy?
King Azuli
More Jews die in the state of Israel than anywhere around the world every single year. And the reason they die is because we are still have a solution to do that with. Having Muslims take over the idf, Christians
Ben
take over the government, and all of a sudden we'll Shake hands with the Palestinians, we're all seeing Kumbaya. We'll all get along.
King Azuli
Kumbaya.
Ben
Utopia. In the Middle East.
King Azuli
Do you know how many gay people live in the us?
Ben
Too many.
King Azuli
They would burn them. You know that?
Ben
In the Middle East.
King Azuli
In the Middle east, they would burn them. It's okay to have them in Israel, but you put them in Gaza, they're all going to be burned alive.
Ben
Listen, listen. I find it ironic to see a huge Jewish gay pride celebration in Sodom
King Azuli
and Gomorrah this year in June.
Ben
That was hilarious.
King Azuli
I think it's crazy. I think it's crazy.
Ben
Like, Tel Aviv is literally the gayest
King Azuli
city in the world, I think.
Ben
And you wonder why Iran wants to take Israel out.
King Azuli
Like, it's like, you know, I mean, it could be one of the reasons, but I think the biggest reason is because we're the chosen people.
Ben
Okay, well, what about the other 10 tribes that were scattered?
King Azuli
I think. I think, like, Scottish.
Ben
The British. British Israel, you know, most people don't
King Azuli
like Jews because, like, the 10 other
Ben
tribes, the Goim are actually sons of Jacob.
King Azuli
Do you know what means?
Ben
Yeah, Nations.
King Azuli
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't mean that you're not a Jew or something. It's nations. The other nations, we also call ourselves in the Bible. Right. Strong goy. Big goy. Right? Okay, big boy. Big boy.
Ben
Okay.
King Azuli
So what do you do for a living?
Ben
I run my own company.
King Azuli
What kind of business?
Ben
I work in investments.
King Azuli
Would you like to come run Israel with me?
Ben
Let's go to Israel.
King Azuli
We'll go together.
Ben
If you come to the Church of the Holy Sepulcher, I will go with you. Where is that deal? It's in the Armenian quarter. And if you don't spit on any Armenian priest, I will go with you.
King Azuli
I will never spit. As a matter of fact, I know how to sing in Armenian.
Ben
Do you really? Let me hear something. Yeah, that's not singing, though. But
Host Sean
best. All right.
Ben
I'll teach you some prayers. I'll introduce you to the good or not. Listen, I'll teach you some prayers in Armenian that you'll love.
King Azuli
Armenians, by the way. We love Armenia.
Ben
We will pray in. In the Armenian quarter together.
King Azuli
I'll go with you to Armenia anytime.
Ben
I can sing in Hebrew, by the way.
King Azuli
I'll check my schedule. I can sing in Hebrew, by the way. If you want to come with me to Thailand, I'm going to train in Thailand. Yeah, come with me. I'll train some Muay Thai. Listen, I think Gypsy with the Nazi. I know you're against the Nazi. Come support me. We'll take down the Nazi.
Ben
I'm against Gypsy.
King Azuli
At least against Gypsy.
Ben
Hold on, hold on. I don't like Gypsy. He's a clown. He's a clown. But let me just clear.
King Azuli
And I said, real. Enough with the clown.
Ben
So I used to work for Turning Point. I. I was the faith chair for Turning Point Action. I love Charlie. He was very close to him. And I just want to say, love that guy. One thing that I. The reason why I agreed when Sean hit me up to come on and debate you is because he believed in debate. He said that when we stop talking, bad things happen.
King Azuli
Very true.
Ben
And I believe dialogue is so important. You and I are categorically opposing one another, like we are. Have very different views concerning Israel. But I think when we can have these conversations and these dialogues and we can talk through these issues, we might not end up agreeing. At the end of the day, no one will probably end up winning the debate. Right, right. It just happens to do with preference. But I think at the end of the day, it's healthier than it is. Healthier than talking. And thank you for inviting me to Israel. If they'll let me come back, I'll come back.
King Azuli
Why? They kick you out?
Ben
Not, not really kick me out, but there's a little hostility going on.
King Azuli
We'll go back together with me or.
Kyla
Good.
Ben
Okay.
Isaac
Okay, Good.
King Azuli
Now, one thing I want to Say is back 100 years ago, there was 15 million Jews. Today there's about 15 million Jews. We don't expand. We work on quality, not quantity.
Ben
Well, now they're expanding. They have the highest birth rate out of any Western nation. Yeah. Israel has the highest birth rate out of any Western nation.
King Azuli
And hold on. Let's get the fact.
Ben
The Jews are having a lot of children in Israel.
King Azuli
The fact checker. Okay.
Ben
Yeah, give me a second.
King Azuli
I want to give you the fact checker. What is the most popular name for a boy born in Israel?
Isaac
What is it?
King Azuli
Do you know? Muhammad?
Ben
You know, in Israel, they're only 21 of the population.
King Azuli
I want you to fact check me. I want you to understand it's not us having children.
Ben
Wait, I was. I was right. Go back.
King Azuli
The reason I'm telling you.
Host Sean
Yeah. Israel has the highest birth rate out
King Azuli
of any Western nation. Hold on, hold on. I'm trying to show you who it is. Wait.
Ben
Spicy.
King Azuli
I'm trying to show you who it is. Right. What is the most. The most popular name for a boy in Israel? It's Muhammad.
Host Sean
It says it's common.
Ben
Yeah. It's not the most popular.
King Azuli
Huh. Muhammad, the. The thing is that they're having way more children than us, but they're only 21. Because you have to understand. Maybe now you have a lot of gay men in Israel.
Ben
Yeah. Why is that?
King Azuli
I don't know. I don't know.
Ben
Maybe they should stop. I mean, the goy slop is the. They're feeding into it, you know, probably. Yeah. Like you did with the tattoos. It goes against Torah. Even me, I observe Torah.
King Azuli
More than that, you know, I. I will never get any more tattoos. I keep Shabbat now. My life has changed.
Mike
Yeah.
King Azuli
You know, I'm going more towards the religious way.
Ben
Okay, good.
King Azuli
But I'm a man. I'm a man of God. But what I wanted to say to you is this. There was 15 million and today there is 15 million Jews. We're not a conquest religion. We don't pull people to come, come and be a part of our religion. If you want to convert, it's fine. It takes a very long time.
Ben
Do you think all Jews on the
King Azuli
other hand, give you a numbers?
Ben
Should they. Should they do aliyah? Should all Jewish people do aliyah?
King Azuli
Not really. Because America needs Jewish people here.
Ben
Okay, but if they don't, how. How are they going to get the blessing for Israel if they don't actually commit to aliyah?
King Azuli
How are you going to take people that grew up in the US that are American but because of their faith?
Ben
Tell them, leave in two years when you're more religious. We'll come back to this question.
King Azuli
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Ben
Listen, I'll just clarify this real quick. Real quick, Ben. Should I call you King or Ben? I prefer you by your Hebrew name. I would rather live next to you than a Muslim any day.
Host Sean
Okay?
Ben
100%. I'd rather live next to Jewish people who are God fearing, have a bunch of kids and maybe do some financial transactions with them and they can help me make money. I won't hire a lawyer that's not Jewish. They're extremely smart people. I won't hire, like, any guy to do my accounting who's not Jewish. So the Jews, they provide a service. I'm not actually saying that Jews cannot be in America. They can be, and I want them to be. I just want all of them to recognize that Mashiach came 2,000 years ago and his name is Yahushua Hamashiach.
King Azuli
So if you say that's true, right? Is he the Mashiach or is he God?
Ben
Well, according. According to Jewish tradition, if you study Maimonides, there's Yeshua bin David, right? And there's Yeshua Ben Yosef. So the Jewish people, they are expecting a military leader, right? They're expecting somebody who's going to bring peace to the nations. He's going to do all these things, right? And Jesus hasn't fulfilled certain things yet that are messianic prophecies. Okay? He hasn't fulfilled certain messianic prophecies. But when he comes back, all the messianic prophecies you guys are anticipating and waiting for him do. He will fulfill them. There will be the judgment. He will establish his kingdom, everything.
King Azuli
Whoever will come back, whether it's Jesus or whether it's my grandpa or my grandma, it doesn't matter to me. Whoever will come back and raise back the dead alive. Everybody. That was good. Make this world a peaceful place. No more bullshit. No more bombing, no more killing, no more wars. Just a place of honey and milk. I'll be more than happy to accept him as the Mashiach. But if you're sitting here telling me your Messiah has arrived, but then he was killed by the Romans. How do you kill a Messiah? How do you kill a God? Not to forget to mention, have you ever read the book the 16th Crucified Savior, where it's explaining that there was 15 other religions that they try to put upon Christians and only the 16th one sticked. And the 16th one was Christianity. And then Christianity works off of astrology. That's why you guys celebrate Sunday. S u n, not S o n. Okay? Because he is the Son's. He's God's son. Of course. Who else owns the sun but God? That's great information, Ben, but there's a lot of things. There's a lot of things that might be conspiracy, might be bs, right? But at the end of the day, if he was the Messiah, and if he was God, he wouldn't be able to be killed. But if he'll come back, I accept him.
Isaac
Final point.
Ben
A final point. I think all Americans should support Israel. When Israel becomes a Christian nation, and when Jews convert to Yeshua hamashiach bin David, I will give you, if you'll take it, a Hebrew copy of the New Testament that I would love you to read. You can read Hebrew? Okay, perfect. Your mom was from Israel, right?
King Azuli
My father, my mother.
Ben
But you were born in the States, right?
King Azuli
And who wrote this? New Testament, all the books?
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
What were they?
Ben
Jewish people.
King Azuli
Jewish people.
Ben
Our king. Our Messiah, Our God. He is Jewish, you know? So at the end of the day,
King Azuli
what did Jesus practice?
Ben
Jesus did not practice modern day Judaism.
King Azuli
What did he practice?
Ben
He was a Hebrew.
King Azuli
The Torah.
Ben
Okay.
King Azuli
He practiced torah.
Ben
Of course.
King Azuli
105 books of the Torah.
Ben
I practiced the Torah.
King Azuli
He was a Jew.
Ben
And listen, I eat kosher. Not for religious reason reasons, but, you know, there's a conspiracy out there that, like, the Jews are running the FDA and they're controlling our food supply. And, like, just as a precaution, just in case it's true, because process Processed goy slop. Right. I'm gonna eat kosher because I know the Jews won't poison their own food supply. And I recommend every Christian does that
King Azuli
in America eat kosher, guys.
Evelyn
All right?
Isaac
Okay.
Ben
I love you, bro. God bless you. And may you, Yeshua.
King Azuli
God bless you.
Ben
Find you.
King Azuli
You know, I appreciate you calling him Yeshua, by the way, because nobody really knows his name. Everybody calls him Jesus. Yeah, but the letter J came into the dictionary in, like, the 15th century.
Ben
Yeshua Hamashiach Ben David. Jesus the Messiah.
King Azuli
Son of David, your Messiah. I just only pray to God.
Ben
And, you know, he's King of Kings, so he's technically king of you.
King Azuli
King of Kings is only Lord of Lords.
Evelyn
Yeah.
Ben
Yeshua, he is God. He said I am. That's why. Read the. Read the Talmud.
King Azuli
The problem is, read the Talmud when
Ben
it talks about Jesus the Nazarene, right? They sent him to Pilate to be executed because he claimed divinity. He claimed to be equal with God. That's what the Talmud says.
King Azuli
And it says, how do you kill a God? Like, if you killed me now, I'm not a God.
Ben
He rose from the dead to prove that they couldn't kill him. 500 witnesses.
King Azuli
500 witnesses. So why did he leave again? He didn't like you too much, did he?
Ben
No.
Kyla
No.
Ben
He's coming back in glory. And all the nations, every king will bow. But we'll talk more in Israel if
King Azuli
he comes back, I will bow to him. How about that?
Ben
I'll introduce you to some amazing Armenian priests. We'll go into the Armenian Church of the Holy Sepulcher.
King Azuli
Is there Armenian church in Israel?
Ben
Yes, there's tons of them.
King Azuli
There's one of Israel. I'm going to show you. Yeah, really big.
Hunter
Beautiful.
Ben
God bless you. God bless you. Thank you for your time.
Host Sean
Thanks for staying all the way to the end, guys.
King Azuli
It means a lot to me.
Host Sean
If you could please leave a review on Apple. That helps us climb the charts, it helps us get way more guests, and it helps us continue growing the podcast and the team. So it would mean a lot to me if you left a review on Apple or wherever else you're listening.
King Azuli
Thanks so much.
Host Sean
Okay, guys, final person on the first prompt. I think Vem's going to touch on the other prompts as well. What do you disagree with him on, Ben?
Isaac
So you're saying that mental health isn't real? Is that like. I'm just curious, like, that's your opinion? Is mental health isn't real?
King Azuli
It isn't real.
Isaac
It isn't Real.
Ben
It is like there.
Isaac
You don't think mental health issues exist?
King Azuli
No.
Isaac
So I, I was like looking at these three prompts and to me, they all tie in together because United States should continue to support Israel. Right? I don't think United States should continue to support Israel because I think United States is a completely on the verge of collapse, on the verge of like just really becoming a superpower of the past. And I don't think America could even help itself. I think America's. America's so inherently corrupted right now. America is so destroyed right now, and partly due to feminism. I think that's part of the reason why it's. But there's a lot of other reasons of corruption, so we can't even help ourselves. So I don't know what business we have helping other places. Like, we're sitting out here, you know, talking about how, like somebody was mentioning that something like 22 men off themselves every day, like, why is that going on? And if you actually research why it's going on, there's a lot of factors within our culture and society. Point being that we're a mess of a country right now. We're not like a superpower. We're not like morally upright, culturally, socially. Our legal system is screwed. So I just. How do you help anybody else when your country is so screwed up?
Mike
Right?
King Azuli
So America has all the resources to make America great again. You agree?
Isaac
No, I don't agree that I'm not. You're talking about, you're talking about like in terms of natural resources. Yes, but in terms of mentally, I think we're like just mentally deranged country right now. I think feminism, when you look at feminism, something like 45% of women are mentally ill by the time they're in their 40s. Why is that happening? What are we doing in our country and culture that is causing all that?
Mike
Right.
King Azuli
Let me.
Isaac
Why is there such high amounts of female suicides as well, after a certain age, what are they doing, like up to their 40s, 50s, that's then resulting in them erasing themselves.
King Azuli
So one of the biggest reasons of why I got onto social media is because, for example, last year, year, close to 600,000 men committed suicide worldwide. Right? Now you have to ask yourself, why did they commit suicide? Because if you go to places like Africa, where it's a third world country and they have to survive, you're not going to see anybody that has mental health problems because they need to eat. They don't have food on their table every single day. So when you Go into a third world country and you also see women. Women, for example, are much better there. Why? Because they're living more in fear, more in survival. Our brain wasn't built for success. It was built for survival. That's the first thing. After that we have success. I believe that being depressed is more of a privilege. So the problem that we have now is everybody is feeling like they're entitled in a sense where they think that everybody owes them something and they think everybody's grass is greener than theirs. And they have actually first world problem, which they want more out of life. They don't know how to get it. And that would actually create the most problem. Now you also take the equation God and now you have just an empty vessel. Most humans that live today in the US are godless. Some say I'm Christian, some say I'm Jewish, some say I'm Muslim, but they actually don't practice, they just say it. They go completely against all of the religions. So then you have to ask them, okay, well, how do you feel about your parents? And then you go, fuck you, Mom. I don't give a fuck about you. You can't tell me what to do because if mom tells them what to do, do now, they could call the cops. So they don't fear their parents, which they see every single day. Why would they ever fear God, which they don't see, which is the ultimate parent who brought everybody to this world. You have to have a little bit of fear towards your parents and you have to respect them. And you need parents a little bit more involved with the children. Well, why they're not so involved with the children? Because the system is raising the children. I have a guy who I was coaching. He came to me, him and his wife, and they were like, I don't know my son anymore. He's a teenager. He's 13 years of age and he's just acting up. I just don't know him anymore. He gets kicked out of school, he fights all the time. So many different issues. We gave him different medications. No medications. Let's start there. But big pharma is a huge business. Billions of billions of dollars. So how do you stop them? You're going to stop them, they're going to stop you. So you can't stop that. Only parents could do that. But then parents today are forced to work. Why they're forced to work because the woman believes that raising a child is not a good thing.
Isaac
If she's going, so, so what you're saying, what you're Saying, could you mind if I interrupt you for a sec? So what you're saying in terms of Africa and why, like. Yes, I get. I get that mental health issues are a part of the luxury of having mental health issues, but also what's not happening in South Africa. They're not being propagandized, they're not being poisoned. Their water's not poisoned. There's not hormones in the. In their food. They're not becoming feminized because there's all these hormones in their food and, like, not even knowing what the hell they are. And it's like there's so many other factors that contribute to the serious mental health issues in this country. Yes. Whereas they don't have that in Africa. That's why they're not. They're not spraying, like freaking.
King Azuli
That's why I'm saying mental health isn't real. It's just. Was put on us. Oh, how do you.
Isaac
But it's real. It's real, though, when you have all these factors that make you have mental health issues, which is what's happening in this country.
Mike
It's.
King Azuli
The problem is, oh, he's got add. Okay, he's got add.
Isaac
But where does ADD come from?
King Azuli
ADD is just a child that has a very. He has. But where does it come from as a child?
Isaac
It's chemicals. It's the we eat. It's the. The stuff they pump into us. I believe if we lived in Africa without all these environmental factors, there wouldn't be a lot of add. There wouldn't be a lot of autism. It's because of the. That they inject us with autism.
King Azuli
Yes, but the ADD is a great thing for a child to have. ADD actually explains you have a higher soul than your actual existence.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
For example, I always wanted to work out. I felt like my body was too small for me as a child. My mother would find me on the, like the highest trees, tallest buildings. I'd love that. Why? Because my soul felt like it was claustrophobic in my own body. And I started working out, getting bigger and bigger. I'd go run. I'd go look up at the top of trees. Just wanted to see the view. My soul wanted to fly. It didn't feel good in my own body. That's why a man only becomes a man. And more stoic. At the age of 30. 30 to 33, 35. Until that time, he's still a child. Because the soul has to agree with the body. That we are business partners. The mind, the body and the soul. We're all business partners. We have to work together as a team and we have to control each other until we leave. We're going to stick together. Now with that being said, when a child has add, he's just a child with a higher soul. He wants to run, he wants to jump. Shouldn't be sitting at school. I don't believe in school schools.
Isaac
Then, then you have a corrupt medical industrial complex that wants to label that kid, give him a bunch of pharmaceuticals. You're getting back to the same problem, which is we're such a corrupted society, we're ready to drug kids and take them out of their nature. And when, when the country's so screwed up, I don't want to talk about Iran or Israel or Syria. It's like when I'm like looking at and going, okay, like most of our population is mentally ill, they're lost, they don't know what's going on. They're chemically attacked from every angle. Like I don't even know if anything else is on that topic because we're looking at a country in like in, in wreck. And by the way, look at the deficit we have when that deficit hits, goes from 40 trillion to 42 trillion. We're not even able to pay that back. So we might be looking at, within the next, I don't know, year or two, like a complete Great Depression economy, economy collapse because of what we've done to this country. So to me it's like, I don't even know how we could talk about these other topics.
King Azuli
I'll try to stick to mental health so I don't go off on a different topic. When I say mental health isn't real, is because men are trained to be silenced. Women should be taking care of children and their men. For a man, a career, a career for a relationship, for a woman is like a career for a man. When a man has a good career, when a woman has a good man, it's very, very equal.
Isaac
Yeah, but you tell that to a lot of people and they'll say you're old fashioned and you're like, you're sexist. You're right.
King Azuli
But we have a society, we wanted to have an egalitarian society where everybody's equal. But at the same time we have a failing society and we have a society that's completely anti family. And it sucks. Because the most beautiful thing is to see a nice, good looking masculine man with a beautiful feminine woman walking down the street with a child. 2, 3, 4, 5. You look at them and you're like, wow. Yeah, that is beautiful. But when I see a feminist who tells me I'm independent, I don't need a man and I don't want to be with the men. And then you have a ton of gays and a ton of lesbians and they don't even get Pride Day. They now get Pride. Get Pride Month. No, we don't get straight month, dude.
Isaac
We need like men's month. What the hell? Why don't we have a men's month? You know what I mean? It's like all of a sudden men are like, like third class citizens. They have no rights in this country. Those are the things that I think would affect.
King Azuli
Look at the stupidity even that, that the mother or his was a dad, but he's the mother or the father, I don't know of, of the Kardashians. He got the woman of the year the first year he was a woman. Like, do you understand the amount of stupidity that there's going on around how we're being brainwashed left and right?
Isaac
I mean, we're agreeing on the same thing. That's why it's hard for me to say we need to do Israel or Iran or whatever when everything is so screwed up over here.
King Azuli
Everything aside for a second. Because I could go into that topic as well. I just, I want to stick to mental health. The mental health that we do have is just by the propaganda, the brainwash and what they feed us, whether they feed us to us mentally or actual food. Digest. Digesting it. They're feeding us.
Isaac
Yeah. And the water you're taking showers with is like poisoning you.
David
Yes.
Isaac
Probably causing a lot of chemical imbalance. But, but the point is the water.
King Azuli
They found the water multiple thing. They found Prozac.
Isaac
Yeah, yeah, right.
King Azuli
Estrogen, birth control. Like, why would there be birth control and Prozac inside of a water that's coming.
Isaac
So what you're saying is we have a government that is chemically poisoning us that are. I mean, I would say that's the definition of evil if you're poisoning people. And so why do I need to worry about anything else when this country is still screwed up? And I, and I hate to go from, to, to the other prompt.
King Azuli
You would have to overthrow the country. We would have to stick together and you'd have to have balls of a ostrich to come with me and go to war with the elites. And it's very difficult to do because today we have a society of.
Isaac
Yeah, exactly.
King Azuli
That's the problem.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
You're in Nevada, you're Caring and.
Isaac
And brainwashing. And brainwashing.
King Azuli
Caring. You're not caring. Right. Most men here could carry. They don't even carry.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
Why? Because they're a bunch of. They wouldn't even use it if needed.
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
Nobody would protect anybody. Everybody wants to protect their asses. And we got to a point that men stopped bonding with one another because now you're being called gay. Because we have some platonic relationship. And now you're a.
Isaac
You understand, which, by the way, we're talking about Iran in the Middle east and all that. One thing. I've traveled to those places. I've actually have, like, family route roots all across the Middle east and stuff. That's something you see in the Middle east is men bonding over here. They look at and they're like, oh, that's so gay. And stuff. When they're kissing each other on each cheek. Whatever. Italians do it too. Arabs do it. Israelis do it. That has been brainwashed out of us over here.
King Azuli
What happened?
Host Sean
What?
King Azuli
I'll tell you what happened. A real man could give three kisses on the cheeks to another man.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
Like Moroccans.
Isaac
Yeah, yeah. Armenians. Same thing.
King Azuli
Right. No problem. And we could be killers.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
But then there is the game of phobic, whatever that they call it here in the US and they separated men. They moved them away from one another. Maybe that's why all of a sudden they got pulled to one another. And there's so many gays. Who knows? But something has happened to the point that now men don't trust one another.
Isaac
Well, for 30 years, 30 years, mainstream media has been telling us that men are idiots. The dad's always the idiot, the loser. They never show the dad in a good light. The last time we had a good dad on television was the Cosby show in the mid-80s. After that, it's like Married with Children. Look at all these loser men. So they. That's part of the. Again, you're like. I think you're confirming my point, you know, which is just so psychologically chemically screwed.
King Azuli
My dad used to beat the. Out of me. My dad used to throw me in the room. Wouldn't let me out for three days straight with the lights off. My dad would toss me out of the house. My dad would do the worst to me. For seven years, I didn't speak to my father. I started speaking to him five years ago. Last year, I bought him a brand new Bentley. Why?
Isaac
Because I said you stopped me from being a criminal.
King Azuli
Bought my father? Yes. I would have been dead or in Jail?
Mike
Yeah.
King Azuli
If it wasn't for my dad. And I wouldn't be a badass if it wasn't for my dad. And dads like mine have been extinct.
Isaac
Exactly.
King Azuli
A parent should be allowed to hit their child.
Isaac
And then CPS comes and takes your kids away in this country, which is like. Then you have some like liberal left heart that doesn't even have a kid that's coming and telling you how to parent and saying that, oh, you hit your kid, we're going to force your adoption of your kid. That's this country right now. That's what's going on.
King Azuli
Because when your child is born, it's not your child. You're the legal guardian in this country.
Isaac
Yeah. Because the US Corp.
King Azuli
US Turns them into a corporation.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
That's why when we die we're called corpse. Because you are a corporation.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
Now why do they need corporations? Because you're going to work as a slave. And when we pull out money, who's going to pay back the money? Our taxes. Why do we need taxes if we're the ones printing the money? You can print as much money as you want. Why are we in debt? We can just print that money because
Isaac
we have a vulture system. The system is built to be a vulture. You're talking. And I could see where you're going with this, with the US Corp and how they made us all into these like financial slaves.
King Azuli
What do you have when you're on a birth certificate? You have a print of what, your
Isaac
footprint, which is your.
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
Your soul.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
You're giving your soul to the government.
Isaac
Yeah, yeah.
King Azuli
There's a lot of things that people, the normal people don't know that of course, if we get to the back of it. But what's going to happen later? You think me and you're going to go fight the government? No.
Isaac
Well, I think the government falls apart eventually with this kind of a debt. I think it just dissolves eventually. Eventually. There's no way to survive.
King Azuli
And that's why there is war. Who makes money in wars? The rich or the poor?
Isaac
It's the bankers who makes money.
King Azuli
The richer, the poor.
Isaac
Anchors. Well, let's be specific bankers. There's a lot of rich that don't make money, but usually rich.
King Azuli
Okay, but who? The rich people. Yeah.
Isaac
The bankers? No, elite bankers, very specifically.
King Azuli
No problem. They make money when there is war. Right?
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
And who goes to die?
Isaac
Us. Little people.
King Azuli
Little people.
Evelyn
Right.
King Azuli
So who would want war? Them or us?
Isaac
Of course the people going to war
King Azuli
don't want to go to war. But when you're talking about people in the Middle east, he's committing suicide so he could get 72 virgins at the top. Right.
Isaac
You're talking about a fanatic class, though. That's not the whole.
King Azuli
But at the same time, every time there was a terrorist attack, it was the same people.
Isaac
Yeah. Which by the way, 72 virgins is like a terrible idea for anybody that's ever dated. So just like, you know, horrible idea.
King Azuli
72 of them. It's crazy. 72 ways you do this.
Isaac
No, that's mental health issues right there.
Host Sean
There.
Isaac
I think if I had 72 virgins, I'd lose my mind.
Host Sean
Let's bring this to a close. We're out 16 minutes.
Isaac
All right.
King Azuli
This is a nice guy. You're a nice guy.
Isaac
Nice to meet you.
King Azuli
You can talk to me this way anytime.
Isaac
Yeah, yeah, I want to, dude. I actually, I would love to. I know we got to wrap this one up. This has been awesome. I'm glad we were able to sort of tie in this together. I would love another crack at this. I want to talk about, I want to talk about. And you'd be a very interesting person to talk about our mis. Misconceptions about what the rest of the world is, is. Because when I, when you're talking, I like you. I respect a lot of what you're saying, but also some of the stuff you're saying sounds a little bit talking point ish in terms of what the rest of the world is. And anyway, I would love to talk about that next time around.
Host Sean
Get Kyle up here.
Isaac
Thank you.
Ben
Thanks.
Isaac
I appreciate you, brother. Thank you.
King Azuli
God bless you, man. If you learned anything from this episode
Host Sean
or got any value at all, please share this episode with a friend. It helps us grow the channel, it helps us grow the podcast, and it means a lot to, to us. Thank you so much.
King Azuli
Nice to meet you. And Ben, I. I normally don't get into debates with women, so it's going to be a first time.
Kyla
It's gonna see who's got better PR when it comes to debate.
Evelyn
I guess.
King Azuli
Give me a lovely moment, see how this goes.
Host Sean
Do you want to start, Kyla?
Kyla
Sure. Yeah. So talking about mental illness and mental health first. So I know probably you're very familiar with October 7th, the Nova Festival. I visited there and when I went to the Nova Festival site, a man who was there the day of the massacre took me on a tour and kind of told me his story about his friends dying. And he wrote this beautiful song. I'll show it to you later if you want. It's in Hebrew.
Ben
It's.
Kyla
It's commemorating.
King Azuli
Are you Israeli?
Kyla
I'm not actually, but I went to Israel and I talked to Palestinians. I kind of went all over the
King Azuli
place and talked to everyone there as well. Right. You met.
Kyla
Oh, I went like, into, like, Bethlehem and stuff like that and talked to the PLA and stuff like that. So one of the things that a lot of people that went through October 7th, and I would probably also say many Palestinians are suffering, is what we call ptsd. And I would be curious what you would say to somebody, because your prompt is mental health isn't real. What do you say to somebody who attended the Nova Festival and they wake up in the middle of the night and their heart is racing because their body feels like it's happening again, and they feel like our men are chasing them down and hunting them down in sea cans, and they can't go anywhere near things that remind them of that. So maybe for some people, they can't be near EDM music anymore, or they can't, you know, go to certain locations. A lot of people are afraid of cars. I have a hard time when you say mental health isn't real. I don't know what are you talking about in regards to this? Do you think PTSD is not real?
King Azuli
So what you're saying is you're talking more about trauma. And when I'm talking about mental health, I'm talking a little bit more about the fact that you have here children who are a little bit hyper or depressed or sad or not feeling like it, and they're feeding them a lot of medication that they shouldn't be fed, or when you have somebody that has in one at life and he doesn't feel like a real man and he goes commit suicide. Or somebody that goes to see a therapist and talk about his problems because his mother wasn't around or his father wasn't around, and then he goes and does something for himself, to himself. Those are the things that I mainly speak about when I say mental health is unreal, but then there's traumas.
Kyla
So you agree that PTSD is real on that level?
King Azuli
I agree that because of the fact that.
Kyla
Can we call that mental illness, though,
King Azuli
I would see it more as trauma.
Kyla
But is trauma not damage?
King Azuli
But that also could be fixed.
Kyla
I. Well, I agree. I think most mental health can be fixed. Yeah, I agree with that.
King Azuli
I'll tell you, men are trained to be silenced. But I'm gonna also talk to you about my cousin who was A girl who was at the Nova festival and her boyfriend got shot five times and she was almost killed. And she does wake up in the middle of the night and she screams and she has a very hard time. The way to get over it wasn't taking medication. It was to bring the family together with her constantly showing her love, showing her that she's okay, she's in a safe place. And today it's been about three years. Right. And she's almost a hundred percent like better. I'm happy to hear that she's almost a hundred percent better now. She's always going to have bad memories when she's going to think back at it. A lot of her friends died. One of her friends, she had to put her on her when she died. She was dead. She got shot I think like 20 something times. She put her body on top of her and pretended to be be dead when they came in and then they left.
Kyla
Sure. And so I like, I think you and I can agree here, right. That this, we can at least start
King Azuli
with this is like something out of the ordinary.
Kyla
My, I'm ptsd.
King Azuli
I'm talking about United States and the mental health that we have here.
Kyla
Well, there's lots of people that go through horrific traumas in the United States. I'm a good example. When I was two, I was systematically sexually abused by a man for seven months. Right. I have experienced a lot of negative. That's okay. And I'm not weaponizing that as being like you're denying my truth or anything. What I'm saying is that just because it sounds like it feels like what your prompt ought to be is I'm dissatisfied with Americans response to mental health, which we can talk about. And I think that that's a valid thing to have a conversation about.
King Azuli
I agree with you on what you're saying because I think think we might have misunderstood each other.
Kyla
Sure. But when we say things like mental illness or mental health isn't real, it feels a lot like what you're doing is insisting that the flu doesn't exist. Because we know that some people lie about being sick to skip work. And we can address systemic failures of addressing mental health and mental illness issues in America. And I'd be totally happy to talk about that. But if you're prompt, and I'm going to hold you to your prompt is mental health isn't real. You've already agreed with me that PTSD is real. Right. We even can see at the brain level what is happening. Right. We know that we have major Prefrontal dropping. Right. When people are having flashbacks, there's a major hippocampal error that's happening where their memories aren't getting time stamped. That's what PTSD is. And there are very clear treatments for ptsd, and it's actually typically not medication. It's usually emdr.
Mike
Okay.
Kyla
Or PE is another one. So typically, in case of PE or emdr, you essentially have a person walk through their trauma over and over and over again and retell it enough, paired with relaxation techniques, either through PE or EMDR uses, like, bilateral stimulation so that their hippocampus can finally correctly recognize that that memory is timestamped. And in the past, because you're right, trauma exists for lots of people. Right. In the case of, like, my childhood stuff, I don't remember it, so I don't have PTSD from it. I have other stuff as a sequela of that. But in the case of somebody who has a negative event, if their brain isn't timestamping it, we have to treat it. And emdr, which is therapy, is the number one recommended EMDR and pe.
Evelyn
All right?
King Azuli
So I'm gonna have to push back on something. Okay. If you go back in time, we always had wars, we always had deaths. We always had women getting raped. We always had that. The difference is, is that back then, we wouldn't sit and talk about it because it was so normal.
Kyla
That's not true.
King Azuli
So people saw it a little bit.
Kyla
We've been doing.
King Azuli
We dealt with.
Kyla
The church, did therapy in, like, the 1500s. There's really well documented cases of. Of pastors specifically.
King Azuli
And even in World War II, when we went to World War II and we fought and we came back, men weren't dealing with crazy PTSD like they did when they came to Afghanistan.
Kyla
That's actually. That's not only is that false, that's. That is. World War II specifically was so bad for PTSD that that's where the diagnosis comes out of. Because what we had before PTSD as a label was called shell shock. Right. And there's famous videos you can look up of men from World War II specifically. Specifically because of the trench warfare. It was so horrific. They had, like, rats and stuff, like, eating at their toes and whatnot. It's horrifying. And one of the biggest precursors for PTSD is essentially a scent, a sense of hope, helplessness. Right? You're more likely to get PTSD if you feel like you can't do something.
King Azuli
I think the more you speak about something, the more you're going to think about it. The more you're going to feel it, the worse it's going to get. Or do you think it's going to get better?
Kyla
It depends on how you think about it.
King Azuli
Do you think that men are becoming. Becoming weaker because they speak about things or because they don't speak about things?
Kyla
I think men are becoming weaker because they've experienced systematic intergenerational trauma for at least like 60 to 80 years. And there have been no healthy males that haven't been sent to war and destroyed by it.
King Azuli
So how do you explain it? If you go to Israel, for example, men who have went to war, came back and then went back to war are completely fine also raising a family.
Kyla
I'm extremely dubious that they're completely fine. I suspect that if we go to Israel. I don't know the seventh. Well, I don't know the demographics.
King Azuli
October 7th isn't okay. The people that were there are not okay. They're just getting better. But I'm talking about people going to war. There's a lot of people that come back, maybe with war eyes where they look like they've seen death. But the more you're going to talk about something, the worse it's going to get for you. Internally, men are almost never.
Kyla
Almost all the data shows that. Again, it's how you talk about it.
Jade
Right.
Kyla
Stoicism is a great example of this.
King Azuli
Men are built to be silenced. If I'm going to sit here and talk to you about my childhood, disagree
Kyla
with the Greeks entirely on Stoicism, because in Stoicism there was never this idea of don't talk about things. Stoicism was amorphate. It was, I love my fate. It's recognizing that no matter what life is throwing at you, I don't know. Do you like Stoicism?
King Azuli
Yes, I do. But do you think.
Kyla
Do you like proper Grecian Stoicism or do you like Victorian Stoicism?
King Azuli
I like Stoicism.
Kyla
Do you know which?
King Azuli
I don't know.
Kyla
What is the difference between them? Okay. Victorian Stoicism is what you're talking. I think you're talking to a friend over here about how men don't kiss each other on the cheeks in America anymore. That comes dominantly out of Victorian Stoicism. It's kind of this British, I would argue, bastardized version of the Grecian, Hellenistic Stoicism. Because the original Hellenistic Stoics were deeply passionate. They loved their brothers. They were all about expressing emotionality, talking about these things.
King Azuli
Where were they from?
Kyla
The Hellenistic Sparta, Athens, are going to be the dominant two writers. Athens got most of the writers, like Epictetus, I think is.
King Azuli
So when they would speak about a problem, they would just speak about an issue, and from there they wouldn't continue speaking about it. The problem is that today I will talk to you about a problem. Not me, but usually men, they'll speak to you about a problem, they'll speak to you about it again, then they'll cry about it. And I know that because I'm dealing with a lot of men at the moment. Now, when I got them to stop speaking about the problem and start speaking about the solution, things have gotten better. But medication shouldn't be given for mental health. That's number one.
Kyla
Like so. So schizophrenia shouldn't receive medication if they're born messed up? Is that not mental health?
King Azuli
To me, that's a. That's a.
Kyla
So schizophrenia, we just.
King Azuli
I would say it's a defected product.
Kyla
What do we do about that?
King Azuli
Because if I'm born with eyesight, we are the product of the world, sure.
Kyla
But if I'm born with bad eyesight, do you not think I should have glasses? Get those off, Sean.
King Azuli
You should have.
Kyla
You shouldn't be wearing your drugs, okay? Don't be wearing your drugs. Be a strong, stoic boy and take those off.
King Azuli
No, we're talking about glasses, wearing something. What do you think schizophrenia is, taking it internally?
Kyla
Well, schizophrenia is a very neurobiological phenomenon. Right?
King Azuli
We know where it's happening, sort of. You have to take care of it. But I'm not.
Kyla
How do you take care of schizophrenia without drugs?
King Azuli
And you have to take care of it with drugs.
Kyla
Okay? So sometimes we can treat mental health
King Azuli
with drugs, but when I'm talking about mental health is how everybody is so weak. They're like iPhone, they fall today, they break, they shatter. This is what I'm talking about, mental health.
Mike
Yeah.
Kyla
We have an incredibly fragile.
King Azuli
If somebody was born schizophrenic, then he's defected. Is it more of a defected product? For me, that. That isn't mental health.
David
So if.
Kyla
If it's happening in the brain and the brain is less healthy than it could otherwise be, and it's unhealth, specifically, is happening at like a prefrontal level, at a. Like, mostly it's a blood volume level in the temporal lobe and stuff like that. And the prefrontal. With schizophrenia specifically, I would look at that and view that basically the same as Sean having bad eyesight.
King Azuli
Okay.
Kyla
I would say Sean said of glasses and schizophrenic people probably need anti.
King Azuli
I would agree with. Agree that giving him medication would probably be better.
Kyla
Okay, yeah, we'll start there.
King Azuli
Don't agree.
Kyla
So you give some medication.
Jade
All right?
Kyla
It backed you off your first claim,
King Azuli
which is no medication if it really is necessary. If he's schizophrenic and next thing you know, he's gonna kill somebody, that's fine.
Kyla
Let me try to convince you other people. Can I convince you on another one, then? Because I've convinced you of schizophrenia should be medicated.
King Azuli
But when you have a ton of children that are being medicated with Just because they have ADD or they have some depression or they have some Tourette's, you never see an African boy going, I have to walk with my bucket right now. Two steps forward and two steps back. No, he just fucking walks to go get water.
Kyla
Think Tourette's doesn't exist in Africa?
King Azuli
I don't think it exists.
Kyla
It definitely exists in Africa.
King Azuli
I don't think it exists.
Kyla
It definitely does. I'm sure there's documented cases.
King Azuli
They're walking right now to go get water. There's no way in hell that he's going to walk backwards. Two steps backwards, one step back. Like here you have a child where the mom is like, okay, son, go ahead, Steve. You could touch the doorknob 15 more times and come down the stairs 30 more times, and then we'll go.
Kyla
That's not the issue. That's not an accurate representation of how almost anyone is responding to ocd. What you're talking about is OCD here, not Tourette's. Tourette's is more like compulsive disorder. It's a. It's a basal ganglion issue for the most part, which is like a mid part of your brain, and it's like, where it'll be like. Like you'll squawk.
King Azuli
And I've seen people have to touch their phone.
Kyla
That's ocd.
King Azuli
Like Tourette's.
Kyla
That's ocd. So in the case of ocd, it's interesting because it's actually somewhat. We think it might be happening in a somewhat similar area as. As Tourette's, but it's a little bit lower in kind of the hind brain in what is called the tegmentum, which you don't need to know necessarily, but essentially, in the case of ocd, what you have is two. Two things happening. An obsession and compulsion. There is no credible therapist or psychologist who would encourage you to just do your compulsions. In fact, all of the treatment is Aimed towards reducing compulsions. Right. And we do that through a multitude of things. Sometimes we'll use things like antipsychs, Sometimes we'll use SSRIs, depending on what we think the dominant etiology of the OCD is. And we also typically do some forms of therapy. ACT therapy is an extremely common form of methodology that we use to treat ocd, which essentially, if you've got a germaphobe, I'm a psychometrician.
King Azuli
And so your job is to sell drugs?
Kyla
Nope. My job is to administer forensic assessment tests and IQ measures and make them better.
King Azuli
You provide drugs to whoever.
Kyla
I'm not a pharmacist. No, no. And I'm not a doctor.
King Azuli
But you give them.
Kyla
Nope. No, I can't prescribe medication.
King Azuli
You can't prescribe medication. So you just talk to them about their problems?
Kyla
No, I'm a psychometrist. So I do like. My main training background is in IQ testing and forensic assessment. So I sit down with an offender and try to figure out the likelihood of whether they'll reoffend in the future and then give that rating to help determine what their parole will be and look like.
King Azuli
I think that if and a neuroscience
Kyla
background was like my what I was doing my master's PhD in, but I didn't finish it. So.
King Azuli
And the end of the day, if they have a very severe problem and the only way to protect others around you or them, if they protect others around them or need to get medication, I get that. But when it comes down to majority of people that say I have a mental health issue, if every man got in the gym and worked out and took care of himself and worked and made money and stopped talking about his BS and became a real man, became stoic, hung out with his men. Depends on what type of stone had one good woman. Didn't chase the clubs, didn't chase the alcohol, didn't chase the drugs and they don't chase first world problems which I want. You know King Azula is Rolls Royce. He sees me in the 12 million dollar home. He's like, I want that. I'm 18, I want that. If not I have mental health problem. No, you don't. You need to go to work exactly the way that I did.
Kyla
I think he always more than a mental health problem. But to be fair.
Hunter
Sure.
Kyla
So I agree that they don't agree
King Azuli
that they have mental health. And the problem is that we have too much of that.
Kyla
Sure. So again, if your prompt was America over medicalizes and medicates mental illnesses, I wouldn't be up here, I'd be like, absolutely. As somebody in the industry, I can say that.
King Azuli
Agree that they overly medicate.
Kyla
Yes. But do you know why? So one of the dominant. So one of the dominant reasons that we end up over medicating, it's not because it's a business. It's dominantly because when you give people the actual realistic things that will help most mild to moderate depression and anxiety. The most common presenting disorders is kind of similar to what you said, right. It's typically going to be eat, healthier, exercise, sleep well, you know, those three things, and get plugged into a community. Most people's mouth. Moderate anxiety goes away. The issue is that nobody wants to do that. People want a drug to fix it. Right. And so these drugs are available. The issue is that these drugs are. Are effective. The problem is that people become dependent on them, and that's not good. But that's what therapy is, a big problem.
King Azuli
And druggies, and then they're looking for other stuff, then they fall into fentanyl.
Kyla
Addiction is exceedingly. What percentage of people do you think that take SSRIs, become a drug addict?
King Azuli
I know that anybody that touches a drug and starts feeling something good out of it starts using other drugs.
Kyla
No, no.
Jade
The.
Kyla
The. So Vietnam is a really good example. When we had a bunch of soldiers go to Vietnam. One second, just. An SSRI is like an antidepressant, not an. I think you're thinking probably more of like barbiturates, which are more addictive. But Vietnam. Talking about addiction, if we go to Vietnam, when. When the soldiers are in Vietnam, the heroin use of them was like 80%. It was ridiculous. Because Vietnam was the worst war.
King Azuli
The Vietnam.
Kyla
The Vietnamese War.
King Azuli
Yeah, The Vietnamese war was the Vietnamese were using heroin.
Kyla
The. The American soldiers were using American soldiers. So there was like an 80 use rate of. Of the soldiers while they were using heroin. I. Yeah, I think. And coke. He was just. He was a speedballer. He was going crazy with all that.
King Azuli
So you give them drugs and what happens?
Kyla
Okay, but hold on, let me get to my point here. So you're basically trying to say you're doing like the dare thing. If you smoke a drug once you become an addict, and it's like, that's really not true. Because if you look at the guys in Vietnam, when they came home, do you know what percentage of those men stayed using heroin within a year of coming home from Vietnam?
King Azuli
How many?
Kyla
2%. Within five years, it desisted 2.5%.
King Azuli
Now why were they using heroin in
Kyla
the first place, they were using heroin because they were in the worst fucking war ever, and they would use anything they could possibly think of to escape the absolute horror shithole that the Vietnamese War was. That's why they were using heroin.
King Azuli
And you are pretty much telling me that whatever they did there is okay. You're telling me that it's okay. You're giving them an. What you're saying is.
Kyla
Should I say stoic it out through the Vietnamese War? Just toughen up.
King Azuli
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps to use heroin.
Kyla
No, I didn't.
King Azuli
Just because they were going through this hard time.
Kyla
Could you actually outline what about that's a pass?
King Azuli
Well, the fact that you said that they went through the most horrible war and then they had to use heroin.
Kyla
Do you disagree with that? I didn't say that they had to. I said that they did. Yeah, I just described it the way
King Azuli
you described it neutrally. Like you're given it such a pass. Like, it's okay. It's fine that they did it because they were going through.
Kyla
I said that they did use heroin. I didn't say that they ought to have used heroin.
King Azuli
I think. I think that drugs should not exist.
Kyla
Well, take it up with a cartel, I guess. I don't know what to tell you there.
King Azuli
Drugs shouldn't exist. And I think that except for schizophrenic
Kyla
drugs, those are okay.
King Azuli
No, that's. If you guys want to give maybe ocd. I don't think they should take it. I believe in schizophrenia. I don't. I believe that if somebody. Somebody believes that there's ghost. Whenever there's. In the middle of the night, something moving, he's gonna think it's a ghost. But if they don't believe that there is a ghost, they're gonna believe it's just wind. You have to understand that schizophrenia is something that you guys are building on one another. Oh, he's schizophrenic. Why? Because blah, blah, blah, blah. No, he's not schizophrenic.
Kyla
So when you have, like, a heart murmur, right, we can measure that, right? We can see it in the heart. Are you. Would you say that the more they think about their heart murmur, the more likely. Or is that a medical condition?
King Azuli
Look, you know. Know how many things I've been through in my life?
Kyla
Can you answer my question first?
King Azuli
You can't imagine how much I ate in my life.
Kyla
You've gone through a lot of drama,
King Azuli
but I'm sorry about that. But I don't take any Drugs. I don't drink alcohol. I don't smoke. I go to the gym. I spend time with my friends and the people that I love. I work. I motivate people daily. I do whatever I can. Depression, schizophrenia, ptsd couldn't catch me. You think I didn't see dead people in my life?
Kyla
I have no idea about your life.
King Azuli
Well, I have seen dead people.
Kyla
I'm sorry about that.
King Azuli
But if I'm going to sit here like Robin Williams for the next few years and talk about my problems, I'm also going to commit suicide. There is moments that I ask that tells me so much more about you
Kyla
than about anyone else. Why is it the case that for you, if you just think about the problems that you've had.
King Azuli
But why can't I understand?
Kyla
Aren't the greatest men of history able to look at their own tragedies and be able to render meaning from it? Like the idea everything happens, what you're describing to me, well, is my thing.
King Azuli
I am not a survivor. I'm a warrior. Most people think they survive.
Kyla
Yeah, but then you're telling me that the way that you're a warrior is by just never thinking or talking about your traumas ever again.
King Azuli
But it's not a trauma to me. To me, it's not a trauma. It's in the past. It's dead. So you just want to think about
Kyla
it or talk about it?
King Azuli
Why talk about it?
Kyla
Probably because it impacts you. There's probably great meaning that you can render from some of the greatest tragedies in life.
King Azuli
I made myself one of the.
Kyla
You like the Stoics, right? I. I made like the Stoics, Right. Epictetus. Do you know who that is?
King Azuli
Yes, I do.
Isaac
Who?
King Azuli
Now, listen, who is it? Let me tell you.
Kyla
Who's Epictetus?
King Azuli
Let me tell you something.
Kyla
I'm going to ask. You can tell me. Let me tell you something.
King Azuli
Let me tell you something. I became one of the greatest men. And everybody that today, whether follow me or in my circle, they look up to me. They rely on me. And I can't fail. I can't fall. I have to stay strong. I have to stay stoic. I have to keep guiding. That sounds entirely crushing, but if I'm going to sit here and just cry about my past.
Kyla
I'm not asking you to just cry about your past. I'm asking you to be a proper stoic.
King Azuli
Nothing is going to going to help me.
Kyla
Okay, here's the thing, Azuli. You do not get to claim stoicism. And then on the legacy of Epictetus and tell him that he's wrong. You don't get to do that. You can do whatever you want to do and say that I'm going to stuff my feelings and never look at it. But you don't get to rob the word stoicism and pretend that it's yours because it's not. Because proper stoics. Nope.
King Azuli
Controlism.
Kyla
Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius weren't great stoics because they ignored. Ignored their own tragedies. They were brilliant and beautiful in the writings because Epictetus, who. I don't think you know who that is. You can take a guess. He was a slave and he looked at his own slaver experience and said amor fati and rendered meaning from it. He didn't run from it. He looked at it genuinely. He looked evil in the face and said that I know what you are and which is why I ought to strive better. That's what stoicism is. It's not hiding behind a way these things. It's not running away and turning a blind eye.
King Azuli
That's what they though. Very stoic.
Host Sean
We're at 20.
King Azuli
Beautiful. You guys want to move on to feminism? I'm just a man. I'm just a man. I'm just a man.
Evelyn
True.
Kyla
Okay, don't steal their. Don't steal their label and then swap it with Victorian stoicism. We have too much of that.
King Azuli
What I'm telling you is, is that I have to have self control.
Isaac
Sure.
Kyla
I'm not.
King Azuli
In order to be a good man for society.
Kyla
I agree with that.
King Azuli
Most men today don't have self control.
Kyla
I also agree with that.
King Azuli
And they constantly.
Kyla
And most people don't have self control.
King Azuli
They constantly blame it on mental health.
Kyla
They blame it on a lot of things. They blame it on their penis. They blame it on what women are up to. They blame it on the way people dress. They blame it on all sorts of things. But yeah, I agree that there's a little semen retention.
King Azuli
I mean, I haven't been with a woman for five months now.
David
I'm not going.
King Azuli
I'm not talking. But. But you do with your balls is
Kyla
between you and your balls.
King Azuli
But what I teach men is to be able to control your urges. If you're going to be with someone, be with someone you really want to.
Kyla
Why not just do like cold showers? I feel like cold showers. Do all of that without like the weird semen retention stuff.
King Azuli
I like semen retention. And I sit in the ice every day at three I love.
Kyla
I actually love cold showers too. I did a. I did like, a frost marathon because I'm from Canada originally, and I did, like, ice showering for, like, three years.
David
Single, sir.
Kyla
There's no world.
King Azuli
There's no world. No, no, no. I'm asking, are you single?
Kyla
No, I've been married for eight years.
King Azuli
You're married for eight years?
Kyla
Yeah.
King Azuli
And where is your husband?
Kyla
My husband is at home right now.
Hunter
Where?
King Azuli
In Canada?
Kyla
No, he. We immigrated to America.
King Azuli
You guys migrated here where? In Nevada?
Kyla
No, we're from. We're in Florida right now.
Host Sean
Okay.
Hunter
So
Kyla
very careful where you tread. Don't talk negatively.
King Azuli
I'm not trying to talk negative. I'm trying to. To explain something that men today have gone to a point where they're just fine with their women doing whatever they want. And that is one of the main reasons why society.
Kyla
Nick is the head of our household.
King Azuli
Very, very broken.
Kyla
There's no man I respect me than my husband.
King Azuli
You seem to me like a very smart woman, and I'm happy to hear that you're married.
Kyla
But you're about to try to pigeonhole me into a type of caricature that I'm not.
King Azuli
No. And I could tell you're not, but you have to understand that men have to become stronger and stop talking about mental health problems.
Kyla
So again, if they're gonna. Our opposition isn't that people should have better impulse control or that people should. People should take responsibility for themselves or that men should grow.
King Azuli
Like, if I was married. If I was married right now, I wouldn't want my wife flying out by my. By herself without me going to do a podcast with another man.
Kyla
Personally, that's between you and your wife. That's not my relationship with my husband. Me and my husband have a type of relationship where I trust him and he trusts me about trust.
King Azuli
I think that women.
Kyla
If it's not between. Trust between you and your wife, again, that's between you and your wife.
King Azuli
I think that women should be raising children. I think women should be focusing on being mothers, taking care of their family. And at the moment, it sounds like you want to take care of the whole world. And to me, that's not being a real woman.
Jade
Cool.
King Azuli
That's all.
Kyla
Sure. I don't think my womanhood is up for question. And again, I feel like if, like the. The femininity and masculinity here is at tension, you wouldn't again, need to run from your feelings and not think about the past. You wouldn't need to attack me or my Husband and characterize us in a way when you don't know anything about me or my.
King Azuli
I don't know. Speaking about regulation here at a podcast with.
Kyla
Well, you might notice in this conversation, I haven't attacked your personal life once. I haven't attacked you as a man. I haven't said that you're not man enough, but you are sitting here questioning my femininity. So between me and you, who's more stoic right now?
King Azuli
I think it's me.
Kyla
Okay, whatever you want to tell yourself, boss. Should we move on to feminism?
Host Sean
Yeah, let's move on to feminism.
Kyla
All right.
Host Sean
So you believe it's the single most destructive force in modern society? Feminism.
King Azuli
I think that feminism definitely ruined part of society.
Kyla
Okay, so do you back off from your original prompt? Because the prompt I got from you is feminism has been the single most destructive force in modern society. Do you want to. If you want to update that, that's totally fine. I just want to know where you're at.
King Azuli
It's very, very destructive for modern society.
Ben
Yes.
Kyla
Is it the single most destructive force?
King Azuli
No, it's not the single. One of the most. Okay, I didn't say it's the only thing.
Kyla
Oh, your prompt says the single most destructive force. But if you don't want to.
King Azuli
No, no, no. That's not what I said.
Kyla
Okay, gotcha. So what are things that you think are more destructive than feminism? Like the Holocaust.
King Azuli
Let's. Let's. Obviously.
Jade
Okay, great.
Kyla
Okay, good.
King Azuli
So let's talk about feminism.
Kyla
Sure.
King Azuli
One of my biggest problems is that there is a woman standing, sitting in front of me right now where she's married and possibly have children at home, but she flew out to do a podcast with some dude.
Kyla
What's the problem with that?
King Azuli
That is a problem.
Kyla
Why?
Host Sean
Why?
King Azuli
Because I personally don't think that's what women should do.
Kyla
Why?
King Azuli
Because women should be around their men. They should take care of their men. They should make sure that their man is doing well. Their children are being raised. Not by the system. They shouldn't be. You're flying out to now, I'm sure that you've been in other places, so you constantly have to be on the move. How much time do you really have for your home, for your husband, for your children, which I don't know if you have children, but if you do, you should be there for them, not for me.
Mike
Why?
King Azuli
And not for anybody else?
Kyla
Shouldn't men be there for their family?
King Azuli
They should, but men are known within history to have to go places, to take care of People, because that's what we do. Why we're men, we die for you.
Kyla
Just ontologically has to be that way.
King Azuli
That's just how we're bred.
Kyla
So men are bred to be out of the home and not have connection with their kids and be slave laborers until they're like 65 and miss the most important years of their child's life. That's the better world.
King Azuli
Someone has to work.
Kyla
Well, in this, in this modern economy, usually both have to work.
King Azuli
That was the next thing I was going to say is that most likely you're in a relationship where the man isn't able to. To sustain a home where the woman actually needs to work as well.
Kyla
How much does a man need to make to sustain like a middle class family? Do you know,
King Azuli
to be honest with you, I haven't been in the middle class for a very long time, but I know that in the, in California you need to make ten grand a month to survive.
Kyla
Yeah. So it's about, yeah, it's about $120,000
King Azuli
a year in California.
Kyla
What percentage of men make that?
King Azuli
Not many. Not many.
Kyla
So just they're screwed. They just can't be real men.
King Azuli
I'm not saying that they're screwed, but
Kyla
I'm saying those buggers, they're not missing out on their children's lives. They're not real men.
King Azuli
I'm saying that tomato, tomato, they need tomato, tomato. Look, I think that many to work a little bit harder because I came from nothing harder. Nothing. I had nothing.
Kyla
Aren't men working hard enough?
King Azuli
I think that men are not working hard enough.
Kyla
How many men here work more than 40 hours a week?
King Azuli
Here?
Kyla
How many, how many of you guys in this room? Most of the men you know also work more than 40 hours a week. So men need to also just work harder. What? How many hours is enough?
King Azuli
All of the men here are probably successful.
Kyla
I'm sure that you're not. All the men here know lots of people, right? And most people tell you most men
King Azuli
don't work as much as you think they work. They also don't work hard. Neither do they work smart, Interesting.
Kyla
So the logger who's working 65 hours a week, he's away from his family oftentimes on 4 re quotations, I shouldn't even say 65 hours a week. Loggers are working like insane hours because we all know that they're working more. But he's not bringing home. But he's not bringing home the amount that you said he's not a real man.
King Azuli
He is bringing home that much.
Kyla
No, he's not. Loggers are not bringing home $120,000 a year.
King Azuli
He is bringing home because I know one of them and he's raising four children. And that's what he own a company rate? No, no, no. He's an employee. He works overtime. And yes, he is making sure to take.
Kyla
How many hours a week does he work?
King Azuli
Wife and four children.
Kyla
How many hours a week does he have to work?
King Azuli
He told me he does overtime. Whatever for him is.
Kyla
Yeah.
King Azuli
Could it be 80 hours?
Kyla
I would agree.
King Azuli
I would argue he works.
Kyla
So you think he should work more.
King Azuli
But at the same time, I believe that majority of men are not doing what he's doing. And also, you're right, they're doing stupid
Kyla
things like being like plumbers or being scaffolders or doing construction. These dumb men. If they just worked harder, then they could be real men.
King Azuli
I worked in construction.
Kyla
Did you make $120,000 a year as a construction worker?
King Azuli
I wasn't a construction worker. I was a salesman.
Kyla
Didn't work in construction. You were, you were a managerial. Every construction man just rolled his eyes.
King Azuli
Hey, you know what? I knew to work smarter, not hard smarter.
Kyla
Oh, so the men who are not real men, they're just stupid.
King Azuli
Maybe they need to start working a little bit smarter.
Kyla
So the men that aren't making enough to provide for their wives are actually stupid men.
King Azuli
Not stupid men.
Kyla
Oh, so they're not working.
King Azuli
What do you mean by not working? Explain to you what you're saying.
Kyla
I'm not saying anything right now. This is you. It's all you, King.
King Azuli
It's okay. We'll, we'll. We'll play your. Your game.
Kyla
What is my position? Summarize.
King Azuli
Your position at the moment is that you have to work and also your husband has to work in order to provide for a family.
Kyla
I haven't, I haven't stated a position. I've just said in this economy, dual
King Azuli
incomes have to work.
Kyla
Did I say that?
David
That's good.
King Azuli
In my opinion, until a man is able to take care of a family where the wife could stay at home
Kyla
so the children, they know her. And then who's raising those boys?
King Azuli
Oh, is he not going to come
Kyla
back home at night if he's working?
King Azuli
Is he not going to be there with them on a Sunday or a Saturday?
Kyla
You know what? That's what every child wants. I see my dad once a week and that made everything.
Hunter
You know what?
King Azuli
Maybe if you would appreciate your dad, you would be a better child.
Kyla
I have a great relationship with my dad.
King Azuli
Do you? Is it now or before?
Isaac
No.
Kyla
Still no. I flew back like two weeks ago because he's having, unfortunately, he has like aggressive early onset Alzheimer's. So I flew all the way back to Canada for an emergency trip because he went missing for five to six hours and I'm the only kid he listens to. Okay, So I have a great relationship with my dad. Nice try though.
King Azuli
It seem, it seems, seems like you're a good child.
Hunter
Yeah.
Ben
You're really trying.
Kyla
Or you're like, oh, come on, she's got to be a stupid blue haired feminazi somewhere.
King Azuli
You don't have blue hair. But that's true.
Kyla
I've thrown you off at that one.
King Azuli
But the end of the day, why
Kyla
don't you just talk to me instead of talking to an archetype that you think I am? Why don't you do that? Because you've been wrong about every single assumption you've had about me.
King Azuli
What do you want me to ask you about? Your, your whole.
Kyla
All you need to do. All you need to do is stop assuming things about me and just ask if you want.
King Azuli
Well, when we're talking about feminism and we're talking about the fact that women got to the point that they kind of like overstepped on men to the point where men feel very small and now you could tell that there's not a lot of families, men are not doing too well.
Kyla
Yeah, the gender divide is really bad. It's a horrible tragedy.
King Azuli
And the way that some men prefer going with men. So what can I say? There's never been more gay men than ever before. So.
Kyla
Which I'm assuming you think is a mental illness, which is funny because he said mental illness isn't real, but then you'll probably think is mental illness.
King Azuli
So what, what do you think is good about feminism?
Kyla
I think feminism is the like.
King Azuli
Also feminism was created by a man, which really sucks. But I think it was to not
Kyla
created by a man.
King Azuli
Feminism was created by a man. Who fact check me.
Host Sean
Who pop up.
Kyla
Give me a name. Give me one name, I'll pop up.
King Azuli
I don't know.
Host Sean
Said it wasn't.
King Azuli
Yes, it was. It was, it was. It was created by him.
Kyla
It was not like the, like, I don't even know if there is a single person like maybe like maybe Hypatia, if you want to like go og, but like Mary Wollstonecraft from the enlightenment period is probably the closest to like the mother of feminism. But feminism is more of like A movement that has been captured and prompted forward by the inevitable step of technology and moral development of society. That's what feminism is. It is an advocacy for women to give them bargaining power as they moved into the workplace. Because surprise, surprise, when you need them to start working and they have money, they're going to start advocating for the things that they need in life. That's what feminism is. Okay, So I think it's a moral good, because I think agency is the fun, most fundamental piece to being a Christian. God lets us choose. Why would we ever take that away from somebody else?
King Azuli
So the way I see feminism and the way you see feminism, you're not
Kyla
going to respond to that?
King Azuli
Seem to be a little bit.
Kyla
That one was a tough one for you, wasn't it? That's okay.
King Azuli
Seems like it was. No, I was paying attention to the phone.
Kyla
What did I just say? But you have no idea.
King Azuli
I was paying attention to the phone.
Host Sean
Why?
King Azuli
But one thing I see is you
Kyla
were looking for the man who started feminism. Did you find one?
King Azuli
I want to find them. I will find.
Kyla
You didn't find them. One day, somebody, our chat man in the back, he'll find. He'll find the one man. You're just going to find one dude who was also a feminist in, like the 1920s.
King Azuli
Let's talk about feminism for a second. Because it seems like the way that I see it, in the way that you see it is a little bit differently.
Isaac
Sure.
King Azuli
I see the fact that a lot of women today say, I'm an independent woman.
Kyla
Okay.
King Azuli
Independent means one, doesn't mean two. There is no place for another person. When a woman makes money, unlike yourself, you make money and you bring it home, which is beautiful. Right?
Mike
Right.
King Azuli
You bring it home neutral.
Kyla
I. I think it's morally good. It's just fine.
King Azuli
But today, when women make money, they make money so they won't need a man. When men makes money, he makes it so he can have a family. Now, this is the different.
Kyla
And get Bentleys and Rolls Royce and all that other stuff that you said. All the chs are.
King Azuli
My father and I take.
Jade
Yeah.
Kyla
I think men. Men's proclivity to protect and, and like nurture their family that way, I think is a really beautiful thing. And I think it's. It's awful that men like you predate on that instilled, like, principle that men have to insist to them that they're bad men if they can't supply enough money for their family alone. And to insist that they're stupid men. You said both of these things. Is there anything.
King Azuli
Man feminism has emasculated a lot of men to the point that they think
Kyla
that they're not good enough by stagnating their wages.
King Azuli
No, no, no. Because many women today, Many women today work so they don't need a man. This is the difference.
Kyla
What does that have to do with ind Stagnation, which is the reason why men can't afford their family.
King Azuli
There's probably millions of women today around the world. You could see on social media everywhere that are gorgeous but not married, all in their 30s, no children or none of that. And they look at men and they look at men as enemies. Because a man, if he's not 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, then he's not a man if he can't provide.
Evelyn
Really tough.
Kyla
When women got standards. That's so annoying.
King Azuli
No, the standards have changed.
Kyla
You're right.
King Azuli
They all want private jets. They all want a Bentley. They all want Rolls Royce. No, maybe you don't.
Kyla
No.
King Azuli
But most women do.
Kyla
No.
King Azuli
When they're on social media looking at that other woman who got this big bouquet of flowers and a fucking G wagon and she's like, why not me again? Oh, that man is better. I'm going to leave my man because my man works at Starbucks.
Kyla
Unfortunately, when you're a materialistic boy, you attract materialistic girls.
King Azuli
I'm not attracting, not attracting materialistic women.
Kyla
You, you ought to be. Because it seems like all the women you're interfacing with just on social media.
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Hunter
No.
King Azuli
How many scratchers did you hit to get that? I hit a button on Carvana.com once. Okay, that's fair. It's like the lottery, except you always win. Not like the lottery at all, actually. Exactly. Inexplicably good offers worth bragging about. Sell your car today on Carvana.
Kyla
Pick up.
King Azuli
These may apply. A lot of women are like this.
Kyla
Thank God I have the media literacy to understand that you don't represent most men. I understand that like you're this little performance for social media. And I also understand as a wise woman to go most men so because I want.
King Azuli
Because I want men to do better when I tell men that they could become richer that I tell men to get in this.
Kyla
Stay out of the home, work harder,
King Azuli
stay away and stay away from party.
Kyla
95 hours, boys. You could do it 95 hours this week. That'll make you a real man. Finally. You'll get there and then don't talk about your feelings.
King Azuli
That'll work out really well. Am I talking to a. I think
Kyla
I'm pretty funny sometimes.
King Azuli
Very sarcastic.
Kyla
I'm glib.
King Azuli
You know, the British, it became. It became a mess in homes. Cuz even though men used to cheat most today women and men cheat almost equally.
Kyla
I think men still cheat more than women. I think it's about 2%.
King Azuli
Almost. Almost cheat equally.
Jade
It's close.
King Azuli
So maybe it's getting closer.
Kyla
It's closer, but men still cheat more.
King Azuli
It got to a point which is bad, right? Where everything is getting bad. I think a man that cheats is horrible.
Kyla
Okay.
Isaac
Based.
Kyla
Okay.
King Azuli
I don't agree on that.
Kyla
High five. We got.
David
I don't.
King Azuli
I don't Talk to men that cheat. I won't do business with them or anything. If he cheats on his wife, he'll cheat on me as well. I won't do any business with him.
Kyla
Cool.
King Azuli
But to get to a point that a woman is cheating now is usually not because she wants to sleep with somebody. It's because she's looking for a better option.
Kyla
No, it's too much. I think all women cite emotional dissatisfaction in the relationship.
King Azuli
So far, I've realized from the men that I've mentored in my life, which has been about 15,000 of them, I've realized that when a man cheats, he cheats to stick around because his wife isn't giving it to him. So he has to go here, he has to go there. And then he says, you know what? This is nothing like my wife. He goes back home.
Kyla
That's a really interesting way to nobleize cheating.
King Azuli
When a woman cheats, I don't nebulize it.
Kyla
Was it good? Well, you're saying he's doing it to stick around. That's kind of good, isn't it?
King Azuli
When a woman cheats.
Kyla
Yeah, she.
King Azuli
She cheats to leave. That's the difference.
Kyla
No, I would argue they're doing the same thing by that function. They're both trying.
King Azuli
Typically, when people believing that somewhere else is better than hers, I think the
Kyla
top three reasons for cheating is like, usually. So I think the number one is actually like drunken impulsivity, just like making a stupid choice while you're like, on a trip with, like, you're like office wife or office husband. I think the second most is dissatisfaction. Relationship. Men typically cite sexual relationships and women cite emotional relationships. But in that case, men and women are essentially stepping out in the second category for the same reason, which is that the relationship isn't satisfying them in some way, and they think that they ought to get it elsewhere. And just so it's clear, I think that that's wrong. I think the actual solution is better communication in the relationship with more honest conversations about your sexual needs and finding compromises to meet his sexual needs and her emotional needs. That's what I think is the solution to that.
King Azuli
Do you think men need to get sex every single day or no?
Kyla
I think every man is different. I can't speak for every man.
King Azuli
Well, when your wife is traveling, it's an issue.
Kyla
So are you trying to imply that my husband is cheating on me?
King Azuli
Like, but I'm saying, by the way,
Kyla
the stoic boy here, you might notice, by the way, he probably only one person has attacked the other person.
Host Sean
Probably.
King Azuli
He probably would be more happier to have you at night sleeping next to him than you on a podcast here with me.
Kyla
I mean, if.
King Azuli
What do you need to be on a podcast with some guy?
Kyla
I mean, he encouraged me to come on this podcast, to be frank. Yeah. I mean, I of course, wish my husband. We. I. I wish we could afford for him to come with you.
King Azuli
It might be more feminine guy. And personally, I don't think you're doing.
Kyla
You know, speaking of stoicism, it's really interesting you had a Nazi on here blaming Jews for pogroms and the Holocaust. And you're more rattled by me just a woman asking you questions about masculinity.
King Azuli
The bond, dude, he was talking.
Kyla
Yeah, he said the 109. Like Nazi, like dog whistle.
King Azuli
109 countries that he said.
Kyla
Oh, I wonder why. As in, it's maybe the Jews fault.
Hunter
Right?
Kyla
That's what he was doing.
King Azuli
I thought that's what he was doing.
Kyla
Okay, that's bad. Just so it's clear, nobody deserves to be pogrom.
King Azuli
That is.
Kyla
But you never attacked his. Hold on. Let me finish my thoughts. If you can let me finish my thoughts for one second.
King Azuli
He wasn't a Nazi. You're a feminist. That's why. Two different things. If he was a Nazi in front of me, they would have a different argument.
Kyla
Maybe deserve the Holocaust.
King Azuli
No, he didn't say that.
Kyla
He was definitely. He was definitely batting around it. And he also said maybe the Jews deserve to be pogrom.
King Azuli
No, he didn't say that. He didn't deserve to go through the Holocaust.
Kyla
He said. I mean, if 109 countries kick them out, like, maybe it's something about you.
King Azuli
Yeah, I said, maybe it's something about you.
Kyla
Maybe the Jews are just wearing like bad clothes. Like, you know, all. It's kind of upsetting.
King Azuli
And let me tell you something, it's
Kyla
like their fault when you think about it.
King Azuli
Let me tell you something, that's bad. Always been the ones that were very forgiven and easy to toss around. And that's why we were kicked out, because we never fought back. But you can't really do Muslims, can you?
Kyla
One of the dominant reasons that countries programmed you is that when countries are going through economic crisis, blaming the ethnic minority is like the easiest go to. And Jews are very dedicated to their ethnic culture, and so they always stick out within a society. This is why when Zionism was started,
King Azuli
just say, no problem, here we go. We took your money, we're kicking you out.
Kyla
But the point that I'm making with this. The point that I'm making this to actually rerail you back onto the conversation is that you had a Nazi here basically whitewashing pograms and saying that Jews might deserve it. And I haven't said anything to attack you. I haven't denied Jewish right to live or not be Holocaust or poor.
King Azuli
But you're being extremely. I'm not done the whole time.
Kyla
Speaking of impulsivity. Just give me one second to finish this thought. I've been trying to land the plane for a little bit.
King Azuli
I don't appreciate.
Kyla
The issue is that in this case, you have to attack my husband. Me. You have to imply that my husband. Sorry, it's.
King Azuli
You realize.
Kyla
Do you think that it's not mean to call somebody fat if they're literally fat? It's both insult and. Okay, it's still mean.
King Azuli
I call them fat. It's not mean. It's a fact.
Kyla
Facts can be insulting.
King Azuli
Fact was is that your husband should have probably kept you home.
Jade
Home.
King Azuli
You shouldn't have came here. That's all.
Kyla
That doesn't make it not an insult as well.
King Azuli
It's not.
Kyla
An answer here is that you have children.
King Azuli
You should be with your children. You shouldn't be some douchebag.
Kyla
Sure, I agree. You're a douchebag.
King Azuli
I am a douchebag. What do you need to say to me?
Kyla
The issue that I'm pointing at. If you want to talk about stoicism, I want to talk about all these things that you would love to rob. Talk about the fact that women want
King Azuli
to show that they're stronger than men.
Kyla
You have to attack my family and. And my marriage.
King Azuli
Being sarcastic. That is something that I don't.
Kyla
I just gotta say, at the very beginning, I said, who do you think is going to have the higher PR in this debate? And you had to attack my. My identity, my marriage. And I've just done nothing but straight facts the whole time.
King Azuli
So don't worry.
Kyla
Rough for you.
King Azuli
It's going to get clicked.
Mike
Yeah.
Kyla
Yeah. The fact check's been very green for me. Not so green for you.
Ben
Yes.
Host Sean
All right, let's move on to the next person. You guys want to make closing statements or are you good?
Kyla
Yeah, I guess.
King Azuli
Thank you for coming.
Kyla
Work on your emotional regulation so you don't need to insult women when they're debating ideas with you. I don't know.
King Azuli
Go ahead.
Host Sean
All right. Thanks for staying all the way to the end, guys.
King Azuli
Means a lot to me. If you could please leave a review
Host Sean
on Apple that Helps us climb the charts, it helps us get way more guests, and it helps us continue growing the podcast and the team. So it would mean a lot to
King Azuli
me if you left the review on
Host Sean
Apple or wherever else you're listening.
King Azuli
Thanks so much.
Host Sean
All right, so the prompt mental health isn't real. What do you think about that prompt?
Evelyn
Okay, so I wanted to make a difference between mental health and mental illness. I feel like mental health gets a bad rap about it always being bad, but mental health is also, like, a joyful state and being in good spirits. But I want to talk more about the adhd. I've been diagnosed with adhd, except I don't take medication. I don't like taking Adderall. I used to take it in college. I don't like it because it makes me feel like a zombie. But ADHD itself is low dopamine levels in the brain, and it can actually be recorded through a doctor. And that's why you have to go through all the testing. And it's not just like, oh, take a test, and you're adhd. I do believe that kids are more hyperactive in general, but when it goes into adult life and when it starts, like, affecting your daily life, that's when it really is like you need to get it checked out. So there's seven. I think there's seven different types of adhd.
Mike
The.
Evelyn
Some of them are serotonin, some of them are dopamine, but it's like, limbic or something. I forgot the name of it. But those can only be treated with Adderall, with Vynanse, with anything else, because it actually boosts the dopamine in your brain, even though not everybody needs it.
King Azuli
One way that I was able to treat myself and a lot of the people that work with me for ADHD is this. First of all, change the diet completely. Now, it doesn't reset right away, but if I eat sugars, I can feel my brain going crazy. Like, it's, like, vibrating. I can't focus. My eyesight is even a little bit blurry. But if I stay off of sugars for 60 to 90 days, everything resets.
Evelyn
It's your glucose.
King Azuli
Then next thing that you know is if I eat enough cholesterol. So my brain functions very well on cholesterol, but still does yours and anybody else. Our brain, 90 of it, is made out of a substance called myelin, and myelin is almost 100 made out of cholesterol. I know that the fact checker behind me is going to say it's not, but it Is the most of the fact checker is wrong. But we can look into it if you want. Me and you will sit down, I'll show it to you. Now. They wanted us to stay away from cholesterol and said that eggs is bad for us, meat, red meat is bad for us, all that. But mainly I eat red meat and I eat whole eggs. Now when you eat that kind of food, most of the time stay away from sugar, even fruits, you will realize that all of a sudden you become more sharp, you become healthier, your brain isn't scattered when you sleep in the right hours. The best hours to sleep is between 8pm to 2am Every hour counts as two. If you ever fell asleep at the 5, 6, 7pm and I sleep nine hours a day. You ever fell asleep all of a sudden, like later in the day, you took a nap for an hour, you woke up, you couldn't go back to sleep. Why? Because those hours are so powerful and it's very easy to go into stage four REM sleep, which is recovery mode. Takes about 90 minutes to get in it. Then you'll be in recovery mode for about. It takes about an hour to get to it, to an hour 15 and then you'll be in recovery mode for 15 minutes which you release growth hormone and after 90 minutes you finish the whole cycle. So naps are very good to take between six minutes to 30 minutes. If you're going to go over 30 minutes, you need to do 90 minutes and finish a whole cycle.
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
So if people know how to sleep better and they eat better and they work out, lift weights, not running, cuz running isn't that good for you. Cardi, isn't that cardio? Isn't that good for you also cardio,
Evelyn
you should never do it. Running is like weightlifting is I weightlift as well.
King Azuli
Lifting is like the best for you. You will realize that a lot of
Evelyn
your add, it can be cured by that, but it doesn't. People who have chronic adhd, a lot of times people have hyperactive anywhere but when it comes to something like they were saying earlier before, like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, like my I'm adopted. So my biological parents had bipolar and I had to go through so much testing as a child to make sure I didn't have it because I was having ADHD symptoms. And then finally when I got diagnosed with adhd, that was when they're like, okay, you're not bipolar.
King Azuli
So one of my close friends, rest in peace, he committed suicide after he was taking medication for being bipolar. They gave him medication he wasn't feeling well with the medication. He stopped taking it. Something happened. He had an episode, and he committed suicide for 29 years. He didn't commit suicide after the medication. He did. But some medications do cause a lot of chemical imbalance.
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
And it's sad for me to see that people are taking medication because every time that I went to the doctor, like, for example, if I break my arm, I go to the doctor. I can't fix it on my own. If I'm going to tear something, I'll go to the doctor out of surgery right here. But if I have a headache, I don't run to an Advil. And the reason is, is because my brain is not deficient in Advil. It's deficient in water and sodium. So I have more water, I eat more sodium.
Evelyn
Well, most people are deficient in most of their diets and water. But when it comes to adhd, like I was saying, I don't like taking the medication. So I have my team. I actually have, like, my personal assistant. She's the one who sets me up with the reminders because I can't remember to do anything. A lot of times it helps me. And then also with caffeine, when I. I don't drink a lot of caffeine drinks or coffee, I'll drink a caffeine drink and actually get tired because it causes your dopamine levels to raise and actually put you at a state of mind of contentment and makes you sleepy if you have adhd.
King Azuli
So it's crazy that you said that. And I found a way to treat it. So I would have coffee first thing in the morning when your cortisol levels are through the roof. You're not supposed to have coffee right away. Drink a cup of water with half a lemon, let about 15 minutes go by, hydrate your body, then you could have your coffee. And I realized that only black coffee. And the way to keep my mind sharp is I throw inside of it butter. Some people do MCT oils.
Evelyn
Yeah, mct.
King Azuli
But me, sometimes I use the mct, but most of the time, just butter.
Evelyn
Okay.
King Azuli
Butter gets you super focused. And then today, I literally made my own pre workout called King's Fury, which I'm about to release on my fight night. That gives you focus throughout the whole day, but I built it for myself some years ago, and it's the first time I'm going to release it to the market because when I use it, everybody's like, what are you using? What are you using? I paid my own chemist I literally found a chemist, paid somebody to help me figure out what's the best for me. But everything is natural ingredients. Nothing is stuff that you're going to get over the counter from the. From the hospital, from the pharmacy. It's all natural ingredients. You have a superpower. I have a superpower. Why would I suppress it?
Evelyn
That's true.
King Azuli
That's why you're a business owner. I'm a business owner. You're a business owner. Right. She's a business owner, guys.
Evelyn
But going back, we're going to get into more controversial topic, because I know there's a lot of comments about gay gays and lesbians. Do you think that being gay is a mental illness or being trans?
King Azuli
Yes, being trans is a mental illness.
Evelyn
So you're saying that I have a mental illness?
King Azuli
Are you trans?
Evelyn
I am.
King Azuli
Okay, so
Evelyn
it's okay.
King Azuli
I didn't even detect it.
Evelyn
It's okay. I know.
King Azuli
I didn't even detect it. I'll tell you. I'll tell you what it is. All right? And we're going to talk. And I don't want to.
Evelyn
That's why I say I'm not competitive.
King Azuli
I don't want to offend you. But when it comes down to look, you're born a man.
Evelyn
Yes.
Mike
All right.
King Azuli
I personally think that you need to love yourself for who you are, and you don't need to change who you are when you have to change your identity and the way that you look. And don't get me wrong, you look better than most women.
Evelyn
Thank you.
King Azuli
Men do it the best. No matter what we do, we do it. Oh, my God.
Evelyn
I will say that after going through. I went through so much. I went through so much therapy to able to get to this point, and it wasn't by someone who was pushing on hormones.
King Azuli
If all transgenders looked like you, I'd be fine with transgenders. But when they go around and when they go around and they completely look like drag queens and all that craziness,
Evelyn
well, it comes down to a lot of socioeconomic factors. A lot of people can't afford it. Do you know how much money I had to spend to look like this to be accepted by Society? Over 100 grand. And that is not an easy thing to do.
King Azuli
Do you feel at one with myself?
Evelyn
Yes.
King Azuli
Like, would you really prefer being a woman than a man?
Evelyn
Absolutely. Absolutely. Because I was always. I was always very feminine growing up. I have a great. Are you totally a father? Are you asking if I have a penis?
King Azuli
Yeah.
Evelyn
I still have my penis.
King Azuli
Really?
Evelyn
Yes.
King Azuli
So well, that's what I do for you. Do you consider yourself. So you consider yourself a man or a woman?
Evelyn
A woman.
King Azuli
A woman.
Evelyn
A woman. I don't consider myself a female. So I think that's one misconception. A woman is. And that's one thing about feminism is
King Azuli
different waves of just feminism is something else. Yeah, but I mean just say as
Evelyn
a woman, as an idea, whole nother topic and transitioning. I transitioned 10 years ago. And so during that time, you are a factor of your environment. Especially when I was like transition, I would definitely wasn't as feminine as I was now. But going through that, there's a thing called. It's the name has changed. It's called a gender incongruence is what is it. It's what it's called in the dsm. And that's whenever your gender identity does not match your identity. Now it is a spectrum. I wanted to go all the way. I wanted to look like a woman. I wanted to be treated like a woman.
King Azuli
So I had to go into men bathroom or a woman's bathroom.
Evelyn
I got into women's bathrooms to women's bath.
King Azuli
Do you think that's okay?
Evelyn
Yes. I go into gym bathrooms and anytime.
King Azuli
But it's an issue because you hold.
Evelyn
Yeah. But also my ID and my birth certificate also is female.
King Azuli
I know, but still when you go, is it. I know, but it's legal. I personally think that you should be maybe more in the men a man's bathroom.
Evelyn
I don't think I feel very safe in a men's bathroom.
King Azuli
What would they do to you?
Evelyn
There's been many of cases of in men's bathrooms. There's been no cases of trans but any bathrooms. But people would like to like to say.
King Azuli
All right, so I'll tell you, I'll give you my opinion on it. When it comes down to gays and lesbians, I think that just goes on preference and I think it was something that was more distilled on them.
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
When it comes down to transgenders, I believe that there's a mental issue.
Evelyn
So you believe that mental health is real.
King Azuli
That's not mental health for me. I'm saying that there's some issue there where they didn't accept themselves and they had to change who they are. Now, I personally don't think. I personally don't think anyone should change who they are. God made you a certain way. I'm sure you were good looking as a man. I'm sure that you're perfectly fine as a man. And I think you should have stayed a man. But what do you do for work?
Evelyn
I do porn.
Kyla
Okay.
King Azuli
With men or with women?
Evelyn
With everybody.
King Azuli
With everybody. You put me in a tough situation.
Evelyn
I like men, I like women, I like everything in between.
King Azuli
Sean, you put me in such a tough situation. This is where you should have worn the me. This man's speechless right now.
Host Sean
Well, I've never seen him like this.
King Azuli
I've done three hour podcast with this guy.
Host Sean
He'll talk 95% of the time.
Evelyn
It's okay. You can speak your mind. It's.
King Azuli
I don't watch. I tell people not to watch. Yeah, I'm all against. The reason I'm against is because of the fact that men, what they want when they chase a woman is the final outcome, which is sleep with her. The easier it is for them to sleep with a woman, the less work they'll put in to their whole life.
Evelyn
That's true.
King Azuli
They will work and make more money so they can have the best women. When you have somebody that you just go home, turn on a computer and jerk off, that is instant gratification for work. He did not put in. And that is one of the main reasons why we have so many problems with men. We shouldn't, as men have an easy time getting a woman. We shouldn't. We should have a harder time to get a woman. Yeah, this is one thing, but then when you have. It's a whole different issue. Men hold their life force in their testicles. After sex, they all need to go to sleep. They feel tired. A woman doesn't. So you know what I mean? After you go, you feel tired.
Evelyn
Yeah, I don't know.
King Azuli
And my balls cut off.
Evelyn
My. I still have my penis, but I have my balls cut off.
King Azuli
We have another seat here,
Evelyn
but I do believe addiction is a thing for sure. But in moderation, I think everything's fine.
King Azuli
But do you think you're helping men?
Evelyn
Absolutely.
King Azuli
And women?
Evelyn
Absolutely. I mean like the.
King Azuli
The ones on the set are the ones offset both the.
Evelyn
One of the most. I think it's like either one or two. The leading cause of suicide, men's death is suicide. And I think it comes from loneliness.
King Azuli
It does, but you become more lonely because you're not working hard. The problem is that men are not working. And I know I had this other girl in front of me that said that men should not work harder. Yes, they should work harder. They should shut up, they should put their head down, they should get to work. They should do whatever they need to do to make their ancestors proud to Take care of their family. My mother was just needing to go through a surgery. I switched her. She was with Kaiser. I didn't want her with Kaiser. I switched her to a private doctor. And now she did the surgery and she's literally walking the next day after getting that hip replacement. It would have never happened that way if I wouldn't get her the best doctor. So having money helped my mother feel so much better and do better in life and. And have the life that she has today. A few months ago, got her as a gift, a Range Rover. You know, I send her on trips all the time. She's coming with me to Thailand.
Evelyn
Money is power.
King Azuli
It's power. And men need to work harder until they can work smarter. That's a whole different issue. But we're talking about you woman or her woman.
Evelyn
I mean, I make over a million dollars a year, so it's.
King Azuli
It's insane.
Evelyn
So what happens in trying to find a man who makes more than that and my personal life?
King Azuli
Well, there's an issue because you're also star. So if you're gonna find a man, does he want you doing or does he want. Even though. Wait, you have to find a gay man or a straight man?
Evelyn
A straight man.
King Azuli
A straight man.
Evelyn
But I've also been in a lesbian relationship, so.
King Azuli
With a woman.
Evelyn
Yeah. So it depends.
King Azuli
Wait, I have to ask. You got rid of your testicles.
Evelyn
Yes.
King Azuli
So how do you not.
Evelyn
Your prostate can still hold. And your prostate holds about 70% of your semen and positive. And your actual. Your balls only create about like 20 to 30% of that. So it's clear if you're asking, it's like shooting blanks.
King Azuli
Wow. This is what the biology class Anatomy. This is. What is this? Unbelievable. I. You surprised me. You surprised me.
Evelyn
So like I was saying that a
King Azuli
lot of times women a man for you.
Evelyn
Yeah. Or a lot of women now are making more money in general. I know that you don't think that women should be at work.
King Azuli
I'm not saying that they shouldn't. This is the problem, is that when a woman is in the workforce of other men, they become more masculine. Because if they don't become masculine, if you're a pretty girl, every second you get hit on. Now when you get hit on, you have to tell people, I'm not interested. So slowly, slowly, you just become tougher and tougher. Now it's very hard for you to turn on and turn off. And when a woman has to go out there and make a living for the family and stress about that waking up early, going to work, having a boss telling her what to do, or if she has her own business, running other people, making sure that they're at work, paying out payrolls, you know, all these things. This is very, very hard on a woman. A woman needs to stay as pure as possible in order for us to have relationships that will actually last.
Evelyn
Do you believe that people should be married earlier in life? Yes, I believe that people should be. They think that they marry too soon, which is why divorce rates are 50%.
King Azuli
They don't marry soon enough, they start
Evelyn
compromising on things that they don't know about themselves already.
King Azuli
So a woman needs to be guided. Ever since the beginning of time, you had the father taking care of the daughter. And then there is a good man who comes and takes her off of the hands of the father. So no longer it's the father's responsibility, it's the man's responsibility to protect, to provide, to stick by her, to love her, to take care of her, to listen to her.
Evelyn
How's a man going to provide at such a young age, though?
King Azuli
That's why women mature way faster than men. Oh, for sure. And in today's world, a man, unfortunately, until he's 30, 30 to 35, he's not a man yet. Society has made us dumber. Think about it. A woman gets her period at a way earlier age than she gets married. But by God, the way he created us was so we can have children at a very young age. Now you tell Women when you're 18 or when you're 20, you should go have fun. That's how parents are. We don't want you to be in a relationship. You're a kid, you're 20 years old, go have fun, go off to college, a bunch of boys, do whatever you want.
Evelyn
I don't think any parents saying, a lot of boys.
King Azuli
Maybe the moms, but they're saying, yeah, I've heard mom. I've heard mom going, I don't mind if she tastes every apple. It's okay. It's completely fine. I'm like, what a mom? That's not. That's not gonna be my wife. That's not gonna be my child, my daughter. I want her to find a good man, a good husband. I don't want her to work. I want her to raise children. It's the most beautiful thing. Yeah, even you as a half man, half woman.
Evelyn
Let's not go there.
King Azuli
What is that? Woman. But not female, right?
Evelyn
Woman.
King Azuli
But female.
Evelyn
Not saying woman, woman.
King Azuli
Even you as a woman. But no, I wanted to go to the man's side because of the fact that even as a man today, you're going to want your daughter, whatever child you're gonna have, a son or a daughter. You're gonna want your daughter to be married as fast as. As early as possible and not to go out there and party and try drugs and try bullshit and sleep around. You don't want her to have a good family because you know what's right. Even when you're doing what's wrong, you know what is right.
Evelyn
My childhood, I grew up on a farm, so I come from a very conservative family in central Florida. So what happened? I'm the youngest of five kids. So during that time, I mean, I have a very old.
Hunter
Are you.
Evelyn
I'm 30.
King Azuli
30, yes.
Evelyn
So I have a very good relationship with my family, of course.
King Azuli
Do you want to have children? Wonder.
Evelyn
It's not on the top of my priority list, honestly.
King Azuli
But one day, would you want to have a child?
Evelyn
If it. If it happens, it happens. I mean, I can't get pregnant, so it's not going to be a miracle of God. But I have a lot of nephews and nieces, so I love being on Auntie, and I love having my freedom. But also I am in a relationship. So he's okay with what I do for work.
King Azuli
But how long have you guys been together?
Evelyn
It's still very new. It's within the first year.
Host Sean
Okay.
King Azuli
At some point in time, he's not going to be okay with you doing what you do. Now. Can you agree that in a way, you sold your soul for money, for a paycheck. A million dollars isn't worth it.
Evelyn
I mean, I'd rather make a million dollars on my back than standing on my feet. Wouldn't you like to do that, too?
King Azuli
I wouldn't go have sex on film to make money. A man makes the money, the money doesn't.
Evelyn
I think that's a morality discussion, though. You know, that's what you see as moral.
King Azuli
I personally would never do, because I don't even watch. Did I watch it when I was younger? I did, but I knew that it wasn't right. So when I figured, okay, the one way for me to find the best woman out there is for me to become the best man. I know I could get wild up and all that, but when I'm in a relationship, I'm a very good man. I'm a very good provider. I listen. We go on many trips per year. I take care of my women. I do not get into arguments with them. I always ask them. I said, look, don't get into arguments with me that you can't really finish. Don't come fight with me. Don't curse me, don't raise your hands at me.
Evelyn
I don't think anybody should do that in a relationship in general.
King Azuli
Don't do those things. Yeah, you have something that you need from me, just ask me, I'll take care of it. That's it. And also, don't be naked. My problem is women that are naked on social media. Don't be naked on social media. Don't sell your body. I'm taking care of you. I'll be here for you. So. But one issue that I had, and it was with the woman that I was just married with and we had to separate, is she didn't want to have a lot of children and I wanted to have children. So when I sit here in front of you, although you have your situation, but like, you like her, like many others, like, no, I don't want to have children. It's not at my top priority of the list. But at the same time, maybe one or two. But we're declining as a race.
Evelyn
Yeah, you want five or more?
King Azuli
You know, so I think I want to have 12.
Evelyn
I mean, I'm the youngest of five, so I, I love having a big family. So I agree in that part. Like, I just, I wouldn't want to be. I don't think that I would want to really be a mother. It's like I feel like if I would really want it, I would want it. But right now, no. But I think that there is a point that we will agree on when it comes on a feminist topic about how a lot of women do want a man who provides and while doing everything on the side, while being completely like taken care of, which there's a trade off. I think there's a compromise there. But I feel like in most modern relationships it's not, that's not practical because there's only a small percent of men who are going to be. And it's a blanket statement, I think that a lot of guys think that girls want someone over 6 foot because they see it on social media. They want someone who makes over a hundred grand a year that's already making the dating pool less than 5%. And that's just going to not be possible for a lot of people.
King Azuli
It's not. It's not. That's why you have a lot of men that are called passport boys. They go overseas.
Evelyn
I know they Boys in Thailand?
King Azuli
No. Then they bring. They go out there and they have women like that are Eastern European, Latin, traditional values. Yes.
Evelyn
And there's a lot. But there's a lot of women here in the US that are so still wanting traditional values. But a lot of the men that are in those states cannot provide because they don't make enough money.
King Azuli
I've realized that a lot of women here want to be married, but they don't want to be wives. They want the whole, you know, wedding, the beautiful wedding, posting on Instagram, doing all of that. But at the same time, when it comes down to being a wife, that takes a lot more. You need to be a mother, you need to take care of your men, you need to hold a house together. You need to be able to cook. Who's going to feed your children? Are they going to buy McDonald's? No. So a lot of them want the marriage, but they don't want to be wives. And that's an issue that we're dealing with now.
Evelyn
And I also think that a lot of men don't know how to be fathers or husbands.
King Azuli
I think because of the parents that they're raised with. The problem that we have for a very long time is that fathers and mothers weren't giving a manual. There wasn't a manual book, how to raise a child.
Evelyn
Most of them are having kids at 20.
King Azuli
But the more. But the more that you see that the government has been getting involved within the family system, the worse it gotten. Why? Because the mom and the dad are working. So if the mom and dad are working, who's raising your child? The school system. Right after school, who's raising them? Whether after school events or they're watching tv, they're playing video games, they're on their tablets, they're on their phone. They don't even get to raise their child. It's not your child, it's the system's child.
Evelyn
I don't think it should be the burden of the mother. I think it should be the burden of the family, which is why the family unit is not just. It's not just mother, father, child. It is also grandparents, it's aunts. It's everyone together and me moving away from my family. Everybody's still in Florida. So it's very nice where it's like my nephews have their aunts and they have their grandpa and they have. Everybody can see each other. And it's more of a family unit rather than just a female unit, which is how it was even in the past. It wasn't just always the mother, it was also everyone else who helped up in the family.
King Azuli
Yeah. Yeah, Cool. So I think, I think that we agree on most things. Just on your profession. I don't agree on the profession.
Evelyn
That's okay.
King Azuli
But it's okay. We have to agree to disagree on that one. But you seem like a. You're a nice guy. Nice.
Evelyn
Nice girl.
King Azuli
Nice girl.
Evelyn
Thank you very much.
Kyla
Thank you.
Host Sean
Thanks for watching to the end, guys. Please comment below your thoughts on the episode.
Jade
If you agree.
Host Sean
If you disagree, I'd love to hear.
King Azuli
I read every single comment. Means a lot to me.
Host Sean
Thank you so much.
Jade
You had mentioned that you don't think mental health exists, but you did agree that, you know, schizophrenia exists, that there are diseases in other countries that we don't see very often because, you know, we only have social media for so much and there's things that are happening outside of this country that we don't necessarily see. Would you say that things like cancer only exists here and not in Africa?
King Azuli
So since, since you will let me speak. Because she was speaking over me a lot, you know, she didn't really let me speak. So when somebody doesn't let me speak, I just go like this. We have to have a conversation. So when talking about mental health, if you're going to talk about cancer, that's a disease, if we're going to talk about schizophrenia, I can tell you that there is almost no schizophrenia. When you go to third world countries, it seems like a lot of the labels that they've put on mental health here in the US has strengthened it. It almost gave power to those mental health issues because now you name them, now you claim that it's in the front of the brain, it's in the back of the brain, it's shutting down parts of the brain and it's been tested and we're running this and running that.
Jade
Let me ask you something.
King Azuli
Unfortunately, it feels like whoever is pulling the strings are doing such a great job. And that's why we have right now a few failing society internally.
Jade
Let me ask you something.
King Azuli
Yeah.
Jade
How long do you think cancer existed for? Do you think cancer existed before we did the research and found that cancer was cancer?
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
But it's not mental.
Jade
So what about mental health? We are just diving into it. It's a relatively new field, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. That doesn't negate the fact that it's still a field of science.
King Azuli
Do you feel like you've ever had mental, mental health issues?
Jade
I feel like most people do, especially in our current society.
King Azuli
Do you?
Jade
But we're not here to discuss my mental health.
King Azuli
Well, I'll tell you why. Because I've realized that whenever I felt like I was having some mental issues to use you to exist, it just because I was sitting around doing nothing. The second I went and sat in the ice, went to the gym, lifted some weights, had a good meal, spent
Jade
some time with my mother is actual treatments for depression. These are actual somatic movements, things that you can do physically to get your body moving that can help improve your mental. Because we all know that mental and physical are connected, right?
King Azuli
So let's.
Jade
Would you agree that mental connected.
King Azuli
So let's rename it.
Jade
Would you agree that mental and physical.
King Azuli
Your physicality and your mentality and your spirituality are all linked? Absolutely, I, I agree with you.
Jade
So then you're saying mental health does exist because. Because physical health exists.
King Azuli
So we'll maybe rename it.
Jade
Well, you didn't answer my question.
King Azuli
I'll tell you why I want so
Jade
mental health exists because physical health exists.
King Azuli
Mental health.
Jade
So answer my question.
King Azuli
So I'll tell you the way people say Zionism, it's almost like they're talking about being a Nazi. So it's almost like, like a curse. But what the true meaning of it is in what people see it as. So when you say mental health, when I see mental health issues, I see the whole propaganda and big pharma telling you you are sick. Here is medication and we both agree on this. Here is what you need to get rid of mental health.
Jade
I agree with you that we are
King Azuli
working on your mind. Yes, you should work on your mind and you should do it naturally.
Jade
I agree with you.
King Azuli
So when you speak about mental health, I agree that you need to have a healthy mind. But how do you have a healthy mind? For example, sometimes I look, I'll doom scroll and I'll see some piece of that said something about me and I'll be like this said 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. If he was here, I'd break his neck and I get a little upset. So put my phone down and I stopped looking at what people say about me me and remind myself that I am who I am and whatever they say doesn't really matter. And then I'm totally fine. Now I'm feeling like this because of what people say about me. The problem is that people today feel about certain things. They're so in a way empathetic, but also in a way sociopaths where they see people dying they're like, oh, it's completely fine. Yeah, that other person just died. No feelings at all towards it. But then like they'll see something stupid and they'll be, oh my God, I want to be a part of it now I'm feeling empathetic. Now I'm feeling the feeling of whatever thing that they're feeling and now I hate myself for it. So I could tell that majority of the problems comes from this. The portal to hell, I call it. It's coming from your phone. Put your phone aside, work on your mind connecting with God, pray, do some activities, go to work, make money, spend time with your family. All of a sudden, 99 of your problems will be gone. Why? Because depression even couldn't catch me. I'm moving too fast for depression. I'm always thinking about the next big thing that I'm doing.
Jade
So depressed people are just lazy and haven't been busying themselves enough. They're not working hard enough to distract themselves from the issues that cause the depression. I just want clarification. I'm not being combative.
King Azuli
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jade
I want to understand your view.
King Azuli
They're feeling depressed, which I could understand why, because their life is. But if their life became something all of a sudden, there wouldn't be any depression. So I wouldn't call depression, I would call it feeling inadequate. They're feeling more inadequate to what they know they should become.
Jade
And would you say that's an element?
David
Most.
Jade
That's a, that's a, that's something that's causing them some kind of pain. That's an ailment. It's some kind of.
Hunter
Most.
King Azuli
Most men are suffering from their unlived life.
Jade
Suffering. I'm so glad you used the word suffering.
King Azuli
Yeah. From their unlived life.
Jade
Suffering implies illness.
King Azuli
Cuz they know. But I don't like to call it pain.
Jade
Pain.
King Azuli
I like the pain.
Jade
And where does pain come from?
King Azuli
I like the chaos.
Jade
Where does pain come from?
King Azuli
I love the suffering though.
Kyla
But where does it come from?
King Azuli
When I go in the gym, it's painful to lift the weights. You know that, right? You work out, you know that. But why do we do it? Because we know we'll get stronger and we'll get better.
Jade
I agree with you.
King Azuli
And I think we're like diamonds, men especially, we're like diamonds. We form and we grow under pressure. We die under comfort. Most men are suffering from their unlived life. They know what their full potential could be and they're not working towards it. That's why I said Isn't good because it's an instant gratification of I just not it.
Jade
I'm a star too. That's why I have the stage.
King Azuli
I knew it. I knew it. Yeah, I knew it.
Jade
Too damn attractive.
King Azuli
I knew it. God damn it.
Jade
I will say this though.
King Azuli
God damn it.
Jade
I was born female.
King Azuli
The first time I I talked to star, by the way.
Jade
Oh, well, no, that was the first time.
King Azuli
Yeah, that was the first time. It's the first time I've spoken to stars actually. No, I have one. One Phoenix. Phoenix Marie.
Jade
Oh, I love her.
Host Sean
I've had her on the show.
Jade
We love her.
King Azuli
Yeah, she's amazing.
Jade
She is incredible.
King Azuli
She is. I used to watch her as a kid and then I brought her on my podcast.
Jade
She's actually a really nice person.
King Azuli
She is incredibly amazing.
Jade
Yes. So we do agree on some things. I. I don't think that. I do think that as a society we over prescribe and that shouldn't be the go to, especially for a young child. I do have ADHD and seems like
King Azuli
you're doing very well with it.
Jade
Thank you. I do work with my brain. I know that my brain thinks and moves differently. So I built a lifestyle that is conducive to that, that aids to that. I have a bunch of timers and reminders. I have the same assistant that's up my ass about everything to make sure that I get everything done on an in a timely manner. But if I didn't know about mental health, if I didn't go to a doctor that helped me with my adhd. Don't take a prescription for it, but I will try natural things. Saffron has been known to give, you know, more focusing effects if you drink it in a tea.
King Azuli
You want to see the therapist?
Jade
Yes, I did.
Ben
All right.
King Azuli
You know when you break down therapists, it's the right. You understand that today in modern society, the doctors are trained on medicine, not health.
Jade
Depends on the type of doctor you go to, your. Your position. No offense, I'm sorry, respectfully, most doctors. That's incorrect. You said most doctors. You said all doctors.
King Azuli
Which one is all doctors? Actually, no train for medicine. When they prescribe you something, they're trained for medicine.
Jade
Yes, those are psychiatrists. I didn't say I was seeing a psychiatrist. I said a therapist.
King Azuli
A therapist is a different psychologist. Psychiatrists and a therapist could all guide you to a place where you could get medication.
Jade
No, no, a psychologist cannot perform just like the doctor.
King Azuli
You go right now to the doctor and you have pain, they give you Vicodin. It's a regular doctor. It's a family doctor. But when I had this, he kept trying to give me Percocets.
Jade
You can't go to a podiatrist and ask about your teeth.
King Azuli
Of course not.
Jade
They're not going to.
King Azuli
They're not a dentist.
Jade
I know exactly. No, they're not an orthodontist. They're not going to fix this or straighten your teeth if you go to a podiatrist. So you. What you're saying. I'm sorry, is in factual, you need. You need a licensed therapists that can prescribe medication in order to get.
King Azuli
Yes, but we are speaking about.
Jade
There are not. There are therapists that don't do that.
King Azuli
But we're speaking about the ones. We're speaking about the ones. And that's newer thing. But I'm speaking about the ones that prescribe what I'm talking times. Exactly. But it's been taken away because of big Pharma. And then now it's starting to come back again where I see people doing like all those things. And I have a property that I rent out where they do all these things at my property too.
Jade
Nice plug.
King Azuli
So. But. And I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. I'll tell you what it is. When I'm talking about doctors that are trained for medicine, talking about the ones that are subscribed prescribing medication, that these are the ones that I'm talking about.
Jade
Well, you mentioned my therapist and so you're implying that my therapist described me something.
Isaac
Something.
King Azuli
And therapists. I'm, I'm actually, what I'm saying with therapists is that they. You. How do they.
David
You.
King Azuli
By the fact that they bring you there, you talk about your problems you
Jade
want to tell a sex worker about, and then really, really.
King Azuli
Okay, you want to go there? I really want to go there. You can.
Evelyn
Okay, then you.
King Azuli
You can't scare a prostitute with a. I know that. But what I want to say, you
Jade
can scare a guy with a vagina, apparently. Or a penis. V. Apparently. Wait, I just don't have the balls attached.
King Azuli
Do you?
Jade
No, I don't have a.
King Azuli
Are you a man or a woman?
Jade
I am a female and I identify born female and identify as women.
King Azuli
Okay. As long as you don't identify as a cat, I'm okay with you.
Jade
Meow.
King Azuli
Do that on tape.
Jade
I'll make a lot of money if I do.
King Azuli
But when it comes down to them prescribing medicine, these are the ones that were trained for medicine, not for health. When it comes down to a therapist, a therapist will constantly talk to you about your problems, bring it up and you have to understand, give you methods
Jade
to cope with it so you don't have to mentally suffer anymore.
King Azuli
They don't go with you back home to see what you're doing.
Jade
No, but she's given me methods to implement.
King Azuli
What did she tell you you should do with your crazy?
Jade
I'm not going to get into I. First off, sir, do not imply that you know anything about me.
King Azuli
I'm asking you.
Jade
Second, I'm not here to discuss my mental health, okay? It is standard practice. It is standard practice for therapists to give coping mechanisms to a person with maybe anxiety, depression, whatever, so that when these situations arise they can pull themselves out of that negative mental space and move on to much more positive things. It sounds to me like you don't have a lot of experience with therapy and that's okay. I'm not here to teach you about that. I'm not here to school you on that. I'm just saying that perhaps your view is a little. I would unilluminated because you just don't have the exposure to it and that's okay.
King Azuli
I would assume that most stars have a mental health issue.
Jade
I would assume that most people born in this country and living in this society today have mental health issues. And it is not exclusive to any one particular industry. Yours, mine, his, his or any of theirs.
King Azuli
You know, at least. I sat with Phoenix Marie and she looked at me and she said, I don't recommend to anybody to go into doing porn and I hate porn. And she said that also on tape she said if any girl comes to me and asked me to introduce her to if anybody comes to me and asks me to introduce her to anyone that could get her into doing porn, I tell them no right away because it's a horrible job. Now, clearly a person who is doing for a living and that's your job is getting screwed in front of the camera. In my opinion, you have some real issues.
Jade
Who says some of the things you say show surely denotes that you have some issues too. Maybe, but that's not what we're here. But at least I move discuss each other's issues.
King Azuli
But I discuss from my that mental health exists. I discuss it.
Jade
You thinking that I have some issues, it certifies that you actually believe mental health is real because you think I have issues.
King Azuli
No, you have issues that you don't know how to deal with them. So you're going find the camera to sleep with other guys. Let me explain to you.
Jade
Completely not connected. And I see how what I do for a living and how I make a living.
King Azuli
I was. I was beat as a child. Look, I was beat as a child.
Jade
You feel emasculated.
King Azuli
No, I'm not feeling emasculated by sex
Jade
in front of a camera and make money for it. Is that what's going on?
King Azuli
I think that's something that you shouldn't.
Jade
Over a million and you're like, Damn,
King Azuli
I make $2 million a month. I'm not worried about that. I'm just telling you, no, you shouldn't be doing those things. I think women should stay virgins until marriage.
Jade
And I think that that's.
King Azuli
That's what I think. And I think it's horrible.
Jade
And on that subject aren't relevant.
King Azuli
It's okay. Let me explain to you on my. My side.
Jade
Okay, but can you stick to this?
King Azuli
I'll stick to me. Since you don't want to talk about you. I'll talk about myself.
Jade
Stick to the subject.
King Azuli
Yes, I'll stick to the subject.
Jade
I care about learning. Respectfully, I don't care about learning about you.
King Azuli
Yeah, but I want to give you some of my experience.
Jade
So what your experience is. You could only talk about your experience, not everybody else's. So please don't say that that's why
King Azuli
we're here in the first place, is because people are weak and they don't know how to deal with it. And I know how to deal with it. On the other hand, you have a lot of idiots out there that unfortunately don't know how to deal with it.
Jade
And so.
King Azuli
And it does. And they don't need to see.
Jade
They should listen to people like you.
King Azuli
They should get in the gym. They should stay away from drugs. They should stay away from. Okay, we should stay away from. They should make a family. They should have children. They should respect their elders. They shouldn't go to clubs. They should go to sleep early. Like they should be people that are doing good things. Things. Unfortunately, we live in a very weak society. If I went through what I went through and I manage to get over it, of course I felt at some point in time pain in my heart. And yes, once in a while, if I think about certain things, I'm like,
Jade
acknowledging that pain means that it's real. Right?
King Azuli
But I'm not going to go take acknowledging that pain.
Jade
I'm not saying to take.
King Azuli
Acknowledge the.
Ben
The pain.
King Azuli
Pain is fine, but.
Jade
But it's real, right? So mental pain. Mental Pain exists, though. So then mental health exists. Right? Like just mental.
King Azuli
Mental.
Jade
You have to.
King Azuli
Mental pain. Mental pain comes from people who are not willing to put more pressure on themselves to develop that brain to be able to sustain more pressure. When you have somebody like Elon Musk who is running.
Jade
Pain exists a mental thought. So if mental pain exists that you
King Azuli
have in your brain, health is a thing. When you.
Jade
So then.
King Azuli
No, but you shouldn't go deal with it with drugs and therapists. And if this.
Jade
Then that. Right.
King Azuli
Do you think you should go take drugs and see a therapist? I don't think in order to deal with the fact that you're not happy about the fact that you got smacked as a child.
Jade
I don't think taking drugs necessarily helps depression or treatment. You don't need drugs. Drugs to necessarily get treatment in therapy. I know because I'm in therapy and I don't need drugs.
King Azuli
I went into therapy when I was 13 years old.
Jade
And your experience in everybody else?
King Azuli
My father took me out of the house.
Jade
First off, lower your voice.
King Azuli
Let me tell you.
Jade
You're speaking to a woman. Lower your voice at me.
King Azuli
Yes.
Jade
Thank you.
King Azuli
No problem.
Mike
I'll.
Evelyn
I'll.
King Azuli
I'll lower my voice for this woman. I'm telling you.
Host Sean
I just.
King Azuli
I. I can't say things.
Mike
Why?
Jade
Because you have to be a decent person. That's okay.
King Azuli
No, it's just.
Host Sean
It.
King Azuli
There's things I want to say and I don't want to. I don't like to disrespect people.
Jade
Thank you.
King Azuli
Okay.
Jade
We're not here.
King Azuli
I don't like to disrespect.
Jade
Neither one of us are here to disrespect either.
King Azuli
As a child at the age of 13, I went to see a therapist. And I've realized. And I've realized that they just want me to talk about my problems. And then I told my mom. I was like, I never want to see that lady therapy.
Jade
There's, you know, there's different types of therapy, right.
King Azuli
I change your. Okay at 18. At 19, I went to see a therapist again. And I end up.
Mike
Her
Jade
therapist should be fired.
King Azuli
She was very hot. And I. We had a lot of great conversations. And then I ended up sleeping with her. And I realized I don't need a therapist.
Isaac
Okay.
King Azuli
Because she.
Kyla
Me.
Jade
Yeah.
King Azuli
Kidding. She didn't me. It was mutual.
Jade
Well, I mean, she took a bet. She took advantage of her position in that.
King Azuli
That she didn't. We were having a conversation. We really liked each other. She was banging hot and.
Jade
Yeah, but she should have made sure that you weren't her client, her. Her patient. And there. I think there's a standard two years that have to pass before you can. Is it three years? Three years that happened.
King Azuli
Good thing I didn't share it until today. And I'm not gonna.
Jade
Of course. Of course. And nobody's here for that anyway.
King Azuli
She's like 40 now.
Jade
Yeah.
King Azuli
Not more.
Jade
But. But there. There's a lot of different types of therapy. Therapy changes and develops as new data comes. Just like treatment for any disease or ailment, you know, changes as more information comes. I think the important thing is we can agree that there's no ne. There's not necessarily a direct or immediate need for medicine for mental health. And that mental health does in fact exist because mental pain exists.
King Azuli
Okay. So we could agree that people shouldn't
Jade
take medication unless it's something that's absolutely necessary.
King Azuli
Should be out the window.
Jade
Yeah, as long as it's necessary.
King Azuli
My mother is.
Jade
Heart medication you need.
King Azuli
My mom is a cancer survivor.
Jade
Yes.
King Azuli
Right. So she needed to take. To do chemotherapy right after that. Yeah, I agree. All right. It's needed, but I don't agree. And I hope that you could agree with me that young people should not be medicated because of little tiny issues.
Evelyn
Oh, yeah.
Jade
Yeah. I'd like to see someone.
King Azuli
It may. It gives them more problems.
Jade
Absolutely. Especially with all the side effects that a lot of drugs and big pharma does put into their things. We agree on that.
King Azuli
The way I. I tell people and the way I have men deal with their mental health is by having a. I believe in having a mind that's impenetrable, untouchable, you know, being. Just because the issue that we have is more around us, not inside of us. A ship sinks because of the water that enters it, not the water around it.
Kyla
Beautiful analogy.
King Azuli
And the problem is that we feed our brain with so much today that that is why people have mental health and that is why men have a mental health problem.
Jade
You're saying mental health as an exist.
King Azuli
I'm giving it to you. I'm giving it back to you. As that is why 600,000 men have committed suicide last year. But it's because of the fact it's like 550 something,000 700,000 people in the world.
Jade
And it's not specific to male or female. No, I might be wrong.
King Azuli
And male, it's like almost 600,000. Like 550.
Jade
I don't know what the statistic is for just the men, but I think it's for everyone, it's 700,000.
King Azuli
The problem is that men feel like they are not. In order for me to feel like a man, someone needs me for something, like a woman, a child, a friend. Someone needs me. They need to take care of them. And men are kind of sick today with something called gamophobia. And gamophobia is like, they have this feeling where it's pretty much not accepting the fact that there would be marriage. So they have this fear of commitment. They don't want to be married. They don't want to have a child. And. And it's. For me, that's another sickness. But it's a sickness that was brought onto them.
Jade
I'm sorry.
King Azuli
By the. That they're put.
Jade
I was reading the fact check thing. Can you reiterate? Was that men or women that you said don't want to have children or be in.
King Azuli
No, I said committed suicide. 555,000. No, both men and women don't want to have children much. You hear that a lot. But it's because a lot of men today are sick with gamophobia, which means they're afraid of commitment, real commitment, because the marriage has been broken, the cheating, the fact that women have became more masculine and a man doesn't want to date a man, he wants a woman. You know what I mean?
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
I'm sure you're not married with children because you are a porn star. But I'm sure that if I were to sit down with you and talk to you and take.
Jade
You know that there are porn stars that are married who have very healthy, happy relationships. Right? I'm not saying I'm in one of them. No, that's not.
King Azuli
That's impossible.
Jade
There's a lot. There's actually a lot.
King Azuli
It's impossible that it's a healthy relationship.
Jade
It's not true. Just because you're not into something doesn't mean that other people. Other people don't have kinky lifestyles and
King Azuli
kinky little crazy to me.
Jade
That's crazy to you. But what's crazy to you is not necessarily crazy to everyone. You have food preferences. Right.
Hunter
All right.
King Azuli
Well, that I call mental illness.
Jade
Okay, but then you're.
King Azuli
So there's a mental health.
Jade
So then you're saying that mental health.
King Azuli
There's a mental health issue.
Jade
You're saying mental health exists.
King Azuli
I think it's a defective. I think it's a defected product. And I think we should change the way we're living because obviously we're getting more and more defective products, just like we're getting retarded babies. Babies, whatever it is. Right. Because of taking medications and things like that. So obviously from Tylenol. So mentally challenged kids. I think, I think that we need to go back.
Jade
I mean.
King Azuli
No, no, no vaccination.
Jade
That's why I was wondering.
Kyla
I was asking.
King Azuli
Yeah, just stay away from drugs. Just stay away from vaccination.
Jade
I agree with you. I don't drink, I don't do drugs.
King Azuli
I'll tell you, I. I even took steroids for. For two competitions in my life.
Jade
That's a drug.
David
I.
King Azuli
Yes. And I changed completely in that time. Like, I was massive just then.
Jade
You're not on tea right now or any form of supplement. Nothing.
Kyla
You don't take anything.
King Azuli
Nothing. You don't even take creatine sometimes. But it does give me a stomach ache, I'll be honest.
Jade
Fair, fair, fair.
King Azuli
Sometimes I do, but it does give me a little bit sick. But I could tell you that I'll give this to men. All right. You want to raise your testosterone levels. Eat red meat, whole eggs. Sit in the ice three times a week for three minutes, tan completely naked. When you tan your balls, you receive a bunch of testosterone. Like your testosterone level will go through the roof. Go for sprints. When you go for sprints, you're going to have something called. You're going to a stage called hormesis. It's when your body's suffocating, it feels like it's going to die. You start reverse aging. Testosterone level goes through the roof. Fasting. I fast for three days, I fast for 10 days. Water, fast. All of those things will bring up your testosterone level. And then if you have a ton of women that want you, that will raise your testosterone level right away. And the reason is, is because you're ready to mate. So there's ways to raise your testosterone level. The problem is that men are sitting down, eating only donut, pizza, playing video games, chips, not doing anything with their life, jerking off to a star and just not doing anything. And now GTA 6 is coming out and they're about to lose their Life for another 3, 4, 5 years. Play a game and it's retarded to me.
Jade
We have similar views on.
King Azuli
Sorry that I'm using that word again. Yeah, retarded. But I don't mean it in a retarded way. I just mean it retarded like it's stupid. I worked with this one to a close.
Jade
I'm sorry. So we at least agree that. That not everything needs to be solved with drugs. And we at least agree that mental health does exist because there's mental pain. There's a bunch of that. You've mentioned it.
David
Yes.
King Azuli
In that way. In that way, yes.
Jade
Okay.
King Azuli
I agree with you. And we need to learn how to work on our minds way better.
Jade
Beautiful.
King Azuli
I trained with the Shaolin monks when I was 21 years old.
Jade
Nice. I went to China about that because I actually am looking at a couple of programs.
King Azuli
That's where I learned semen retention.
Jade
I don't know if I'll ever be able to agree with you on that, per se.
Isaac
Say.
Mike
I know.
King Azuli
I mean, that's your job.
Jade
Not just that, but like, I just enjoy my life too much.
King Azuli
But no, but you don't have se. Wait, you have se.
Jade
No, I don't. Just the stuff that gets put on top and inside of me.
King Azuli
Lovely women out here.
Jade
Yeah. But I can make you laugh in most ways that most women can't.
King Azuli
I agree to that. You made me laugh.
Host Sean
Awesome.
Hunter
Thanks.
Host Sean
Gosh.
Jade
Awesome.
Hunter
Thank you.
Evelyn
Thank you.
King Azuli
Found it.
Host Sean
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I do disagree with those.
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Isaac
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Mike
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I even have seven days to love
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Mike
Recently, somebody said about me four years ago that I looked like a strip club manager. They said now I look like a successful strip club manager because the last four years I've lost £240 and gotten in shape. Changed my life by doing all of that stuff, stuff that you talked about. Working out, going to the gym, focusing, stuff like that. I work in strip clubs. I've been in the strip club industry for 20 years.
King Azuli
Okay, so they weren't wrong.
Ben
What?
King Azuli
Very successful strip club manager.
Mike
Yeah. Successful strip club operator all over the place. Oklahoma to Ohio, Chicago to Tennessee. I don't do drugs. I don't drink.
King Azuli
Why'd you first. When you first said it, it seemed like you were insulted when they said it.
Hunter
With what?
Mike
Strip club?
King Azuli
Yeah, like a strip club manager.
Mike
People have a. People, people have a negative stereotype of anybody in the adult industry especially. I know, you know, women get it a lot, but so do men, you know, such as me. You would never guess that I don't do drugs, that I don't drink. Never have. Just don't do it. Never guess I don't have like a raging addiction. Never guess that I don't try to sleep with every single dancer who works, works for me because I view them as, you know, co workers. Co equals that. That we work with, I don't try to, you know, mess with them. So when people think about the negative stereotypes in the industry, I get them all every time. So some of the stuff, like with the mental health, I definitely think that mental health is real. And let me tell you why. I think that Instagram and social media plays a big part of it. I think that people see, and I can, I know in my case Instagram, people see the successes. People see the pictures of me now being 170 pounds, taking pictures of beautiful women, and then the clubs I run, people see all of the success. And people don't see going to the gym. People don't see the work that it takes to achieve that success. And then, you know, there's, I guess you can call them haters or people that, you know, they, they sit here and then they get mad at their life, they get mad at me because they're unable to do what, they're unable to accomplish the same things that I've accomplished. So for me, when I see, like someone say that mental health isn't real, I think that it definitely is real because I think that people are warped by what they see on social media. People have a warped sense of what beauty is. People have a warped sense of what success is. And I think that, you know, Instagram shows the hits. Instagram, Instagram would be like, if you did a video edit of your day every day, it would show. It would show me being in the strip Club at 10 o' clock at night talking to all of the, all the dancers. It wouldn't show me at 3pm in the afternoon reading the bills, like, what the hell is this? What the hell is this? Deal with this problem. Stop the phone ring. They wouldn't show any of that. It just shows. It shows the hits. And I think people have. I think that definitely plays into people's warped perception of what success is. People's warped perception of like how easy my life is or your life or anybody's life is. It makes them easy for them to hate us.
King Azuli
It almost seems like every single person that sat in front of me when we talked about mental health, like, we had this different view of mental health, right? I mean, you're you, I'm me. We see things differently. We're not going to see it the same. That's also what makes us unique. But you guys don't understand that the mental health that people do have is from what was put inside of our minds. Everything around you isn't real. Matter of fact, you're not Even here in the first place, you don't really exist. This whole world is a computer. Your brain is a computer. You know how to upload, you know how to download, you know exactly what to do to fix that. Mental health. Now, the mental health that you have, you're telling me, is because watching a certain video of somebody's perfect life and you feel bad because someone has a perfect life and you don't. That's what I was getting back at with the fact that, number one, the reason we have mental health is because people are jealous. People have first world problem because they want something, they just don't know how to get it. And that's why when you go to Africa, when you go to Thailand, when you go to certain places that are third world countries, they just want to survive. They don't have a headache, they don't feel bad. There's no depression. No, there is none of these mental health issues. What they do have is the need to go out there, work in the heat, come back home, provide to their family. Now, a lot of people here in the US will say, well, me and my wife don't make enough money to have children, but we still got married. Why did you get married in the first place? If you're not going to have any children, you shouldn't have gotten married. Oh, well, we wanted to just, you know, bond. No. Now when you're married, the government controls everything that you do. They're in your business. And let's not forget that it's a triangle. You got the government, you got the wife, you got the husband. The husband and wife don't even get married. They're just getting together with the third party, which is the government. And when they have an issue, they got to go to the government. And then when this person has an issue, they go to the government. And once they speak to the government, the government says it's okay if you could stay together or separate, or you take this and you take that, and then they take all of your money with these lawyers. The mental health problems that we have today were just put on us by the system. You go to other places, there is no mental health problem rooms. So I had a girl in front of me that was sitting here and going, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And all I'm hearing is blah, blah, blah. I'm like, what the you're doing here? You should be at home with your husband if you have a child. Cool. She probably doesn't have a child. That's why she's here. That's her baby being on a stupid podcast. She shouldn't be here. She should be at home with her husband. She should be at home having a child. This is what women should be doing. The man, on the other hand, shouldn't be talking about his problem. Because men have little emotions, but very deep ones. That's why when there's a school shooting, it's a man, not a woman. A woman has a lot of emotions, but they talk about it. They know how to deal with it. It's not an issue for them. We don't know how to deal with emotions. Someone would die. We have a utilitarian meat suit that was built for strength and speed. As the men, we are born to kill. Me and you, we're murderers. And every single man in here is a murderer. The fact that they domesticate us, turned this into some pets, doesn't mean we don't have it inside of us. So when you want to sit down and talk about problems that are mental health problems, like take this medication, take Prozac, take Ritalin, take this, take that, that you, the doctor, their mother, their sister. I sat with the doctor last week. He told me, you know, you're eating too much red meat. Your red blood cells are up. I pulled up my shirt, showed him my six pack, told me, you fat. Look at. You're about to die from fat disease. What the Are you. You're gonna tell me about my health? Look at how you look. You're about to die out of a heart attack. All you took was my blood pressure, and you're about to die from breathing too hard. And that's the truth. Now, the fact that people don't want to talk about it because it's going to raise a little bit more of those health problems.
Mike
Well, red meat is accurate. That's that. You're 100 accurate on that. I'll say that.
King Azuli
Damn.
Mike
Yeah. Now, would you agree that. So would you agree that social media exasperates the problem?
King Azuli
That you took your life by the hand and said, you, I'm gonna go lose weight. You probably had a ton of red meat, lost £240. You were a fat. But you said to yourself, I could either go take medication and talk to a therapist about being fat, but that's not going to take the fat away, is it? I could go get a surgery. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Maybe you needed a surgery after to get rid of the skin. Maybe you had a little bit of lipo, whatever. But majority of that fat came from hard work when you removed it. I give you props for that. Most men are not willing to put in the work. And most men are not trained by a father like me, for example, who wouldn't even let them get into that situation in the first place. But I could assume that your mother wanted to feed you and was like, oh, my little baby boy. I'm just gonna feed him right now, Give you a bunch of pasta and meatballs, you know, and then you turn into a meatball because she thought you should have all of this because she wanted to be good to you. But it's not good to you. It's bad to you. And then you grew. And when he turned into a real man, you went and you fought it. And today you're standing in front of me. I would never guess that you were £400 before, and now you're a good looking, successful strip club manager. What's wrong with that if you don't have haters? Hate comes from the bottom, doesn't come from above. People don't hate you. They just hate on you. They want to be you. That's a great thing. But that came from hard work. That didn't come from you just being lazy. You know what it was like to be lazy? You remember that belly that you couldn't see your. So when they said you were sleeping with everybody, you're like, bro, I didn't see it in 10 years. What are you talking about? Right? But look at you today. Sit in front of me. Real men. Worked on himself. Men. We are the sculpture and we're also the stone. We could chisel our own body to make it look like this. When I train three times a day, when I drink my king shot, ginger, lemon, cayenne pepper. When I drink my black coffee with no sugar. Today I'm having sugars. For the past two weeks, I've been having sugars. But I could tell you I don't sleep the same. I wake up with a headache. I wake up feeling groggy, like I didn't sleep enough because my body is, like, electrocuted. Like I was holding a chainsaw for 17 hours and then I got to bed. But when I move my sugars away, way, I feel way better. Yeah, my mental health is better. So when we talk about mental health, I don't like how they removed their moms from the house. They gave us medication, they told us we are sick. They give you medication, and then after six months, that medication doesn't work for you. So then now you go back, you get reevaluated, and they give you stronger Medication, medication. Because the last one doesn't work anymore, right? You already built tolerance for it and now you're taking another piece of medication. And then again after six months to a year you come get more medication. And my grandpa died a few months ago and he was taking like 50 pills a day. Why feed him all these pills? And when he was taking them, he was like, I have to have my pills, I need my pills. I need them. No, you don't need them. But they make you believe that you need them. That's when they make you do what they want you to do and make you believe it's your own idea. And that's why I don't support mental health now. Do people have mental problems today? Yes, they do.
Mike
Do you think social media makes it worse?
King Azuli
Way worse. Way worse. I say this is the portal to hell. In the back of this phone you have the bite of a. You have an apple, which was the forbidden fruit. It has a bite mark on it. It is an iPhone, which means it is iPhone. It you turned yourself into a phone. This will make you lose your marriage. This will make you lose your life. Cuz when I first of, I started keeping Shabbat four weeks ago, I put my phone aside for 25 hours. I don't touch it. Man, I feel so much better. I walk outside, I walk on the grass barefoot. The world is an electromagnetic field. Field electricity surges through my body. Semen retention, ice baths. Nothing could touch me. I feel like I'm half man, half God. A demigod. That's how I feel now. People, humans won't understand it. They don't understand when I tell them I feel like a God. But I feel like I could take on anybody, anywhere, anytime. Because we all have God inside of us.
Evelyn
Us.
King Azuli
But some of us let go of God and too many are godless. And some of us have just a little bit of the spark of God. But I use all of God's creations. Remember, God will never poison you. Just remember that. If it's not from the land and it's not from the tree, if it's not from the. From an animal and it's not from a sea, I don't consume it. You get that? Yeah, yeah. Not from the land, not from a tree, not from an animal, not from the sea, I don't consume it. Very easy. Until now, this shit. Why you bring me this donut?
Host Sean
Protein donut.
Mike
Would you think that the rise agree with me though? Most of that? Yeah. Especially on the food stuff. I mean I, you know, I Definitely know that red meat. And eating red meat is very helpful. When you. When you. When you haven't ate sugar and you've stayed off of it and detox from. And you. And then you eat it again, it does screw you up badly. I've noticed that. And my. And my weight loss journey and everything. Would you think that the rise. The feminism in America and the. I see. I deal with most of the. Most of the. I deal with probably 85% of my workforce, dancers, staff are females. And knowing a lot of them, and a lot. A lot of them are in healthy relationships. A lot of them date. The dating pool in America of men right now is really shitty. I mean, I hear all the stories about the women that take. Tell me everything. I mean, the men are shitty. They can't stay faithful. They don't have a job. They don't have a car. And this is nationwide. This is from Tennessee to Oklahoma to Chicago. There's a lot of losers out there. So, like, when I hear anybody say that feminism is destructive, I think it's been a rise in it because of the simple fact that a lot of men suck. I think that a lot of men that are successful are men that at least can have a job, that can have their. Together. I think. I think we're the. We're the. The exception, not the rule. And I don't know why society has kind of like.
King Azuli
What's your name?
Mike
Mike.
King Azuli
Mike, You're a. Let me tell you something, Mike. What we have here is marriage, right? What was marriage all about? You have a man and woman. Yes. What does the woman do? What does she come with? She comes untouched, right? Untouched. I hear whores in the back laughing. What's going on there? She comes untouched. No, no, we're on. I'll explain to you a second. She comes untouched, right? That's number one. Number two, she doesn't sit there and argue with you about every little thing. She's there to take care of you, right? She's there to love you. She's there to have children. She's there to take care of them. She's there to be a wife. Cook, clean. Now, in today's world, every woman doesn't want to clean. So I say, no problem. You're a princess. I'll have a maid for you. She says, I don't want to cook. I tell her, don't worry. I eat red meat three times a day. I'll make my steaks and I'll even cook for you. And we'll have a chef.
Ben
Perfect.
King Azuli
And then she sits there and tells you, but I want to do whatever I want before I marry you. Be with 10, 20, 30 men. Hey, that's not what we agreed on. But that's what she wants. So some men agree to that. Then she comes and says, I don't want to raise my children. I don't want to be a mother that's at home all the time. I want to work. Why? Because I want to have my own money. Will this come to the home? Nope. I'll have my savings on the side. So your money, as a man, will take care of me and the children, and my money will stay for me, for things that I want to just buy from time to time and at the same time, in case we're going to separate. So now you're thinking about plan B and we think about plan B. Plan A never works. Do you agree? All right. Then the next thing comes. She doesn't want to raise the children. She doesn't want to clean. She doesn't want to cook. She doesn't want to be a virgin. Now she's argumentative. You come back home as a man all day, you're at war, and you're coming home to war again. Where were you? What did you do? Don't tell me this, don't tell me that. Now the next thing happened, I want to be on social media. I will wear whatever I want. I will pose however I want. I'll have my butt on there. Oh, it's not a thong. It's a bikini. No, it's a flossing piece of. You know, the flossing. That's what it is. They wear flossing on them and they think, this is bikini. So now she's getting all this love for all this from all these men on social media. Likes. How can I give her enough likes when she's getting 2, 000 likes on an ass photo? Can I give her 2000 likes? I could just tell her, honey, you look great today. And then the poses and the selfies and the cuteness is only for the phone. It's not even for me anymore.
David
Now
King Azuli
she still wants me to protect, to provide, to have these children with her, to be faithful, to not be with anybody else. Although in every religion, you could have multiple wives. But that's not okay. In Judaism, you can have four wives. You can marry four women as long as you treat them all the same. One gets a Mercedes, the other one gets a Mercedes, but they're not okay with that. So now you can't have Multiple wives. Now, your wife has been touched by who knows who. Now she's independent. She doesn't even. She might as well cheat on you while she's with you, because almost, what, 50% of them cheat? I don't know what it was. I think the number was, like, 40. 42 cheat on their men. So 8% more. I think we found that out earlier. Still more. But we're men. When men cheat, we cheat to stay in a relationship. When a woman cheats, she cheats to leave. Exactly.
Hunter
So.
King Azuli
Exactly. But now she wants these emotional things, and she wants her to keep you happy, and she wants you to pay the bills.
Mike
So you don't think that's because. Because men have failed. A lot of people. A lot of men have failed 100%.
King Azuli
What do you think? Feminism.
Mike
I see a lot of men that come to the strip club, and a lot of them are losers.
King Azuli
100%.
Mike
You know, they're losers, 100%. I mean, why. Why would you want to. Why would you want to date a woman that doesn't have a job? Why do you want to date a man that doesn't have a job? And the men in America suck.
King Azuli
I told. I told my. My assistant today, I said, feminism started by a man. We looked it up. I know. Your fact checker said it wasn't true. It is true. It started by a man. Where's my guy? Who's going to show you in a sec. Us men are supposed to be leaders.
Mike
Okay, so you don't think women can be a leader?
King Azuli
We are now.
Mike
I mean, I see some sexy women when I go to the courthouse. Women lawyers are hot.
King Azuli
We have became misleaders. I'm not saying they can't be hot.
Mike
I'm saying I'd marry a woman lawyer. Right?
King Azuli
I mean, they're high, they're sexual, sexy, but they are not the women that we need them to be.
Mike
So you want a woman that can exchange an opinion with you. You think that's bad?
King Azuli
Actually, not bad at all. You don't want a woman that's gonna. I love women who could exchange an opinion with me. But I'm telling you that the problem that we have today is that men haven't been men. We led women to where they are today. Men are 100. The problem. That's why I work with men, not with women, because I want women. Men, to get better so we could have more homes, we could have more families, more children. I think that men are the main problem, because what is a woman who guide them here, for example, we talk about feminism. If tomorrow all the men say there's no feminism, then there's no feminism. If all the men say that women don't have any rights, then women don't have any rights. Because that's how you see it in the Middle East. It takes men like you and like me to enforce their rights, which means they don't really have any rights, do they? We enforce their rights because we're good men. We want them to be able to have an opinion. We want them to work. We want them. But what happened when you gave them so much? When you see a woman says, I want to do whatever I want to do, she doesn't say, I want to go to school. I would like to become a lawyer. I would like to make good money so I could provide to the family. No, I want to be naked on social media. I want to go to parties. I want to try cocaine. I want this, I want that. That's what they mean when they say, that's what I want to do.
David
Do.
King Azuli
I'm gonna do it. I don't care.
Mike
It's kind of an over generalization, I think. I don't.
King Azuli
I don't have to bring her off.
Mike
So you say you think you're up here. You think that I have a better. You think if I was to find a woman to get married to right now, I would have a better success rate with some random woman who's stupid, who's gonna say, yes, daddy, every time I tell her to do something and stay at home and I do anything, rather than someone that's educated and makes money.
King Azuli
No, no, no. She can't be stupid. She's smarter than you. Let's put it like this. She needs to run a home. She needs to be the CEO of the home. CEO of home? What CEO of the strip club. My friend, you are running hookers. What is wrong with you? You're telling me they're lovely? They're sexy. Of course they are. But they're also the daughters of the devil. If the devil can't get to you, he'll send you a woman because of a woman. We didn't conceive one child in the Garden of Eden. The second you let a woman ride all over you, you're not gonna have a good family. You're not gonna have a family. She doesn't believe in God. She doesn't believe in anything. She doesn't believe. That's fine. Science. Science. No, I think that everything is fake. In my opinion, everything is fake. But let's go by stories. But everything is really fake.
Ben
Fake.
King Azuli
It's all. And we're coming to the end of time where we're getting to the point that AI is about to be God. We're going to speak to it like it's God. Humans are going to be completely taken off of the planet because who needs all these humans, right? We became. We're a bunch of morons that are arguing one another. We're rebelling against the elites and eventually they're not going to need us. So why keep us, right? We're not good employees, are we? We're not doing a damn good job at it. The one thing that we know is that we don't know where we came from and we don't know where we're going after this life. But something has created us. It made us. And we understand what is being righteous and what is not being righteous. If. Look, I have a lot of money, thank God. I have the looks. I have the ability to pull in any woman anytime that I want. I don't use it to go sleep around with women. I hold my urges. I don't want to go around sleeping with women. There's women that I met lately that are good women that are either virgins, been or with one or two men. And I tell them, I say, look, until we get married, I don't want to sleep with you. I don't want us to even touch each other. I want to fall in love with your soul because I don't want to ruin you. I don't want to be that man that you're going to talk about who took away your virginity or slept with you. And you were with one man. Now I was the second man. Now I opened you up to a bunch of other men. You're a good woman. You need to. You're marriage material. I'm not going to use you. I'm not going to abuse my abilities that I know I could get her into bed. But I don't do that. So I am what you call a good man for society. If there was more men like me, I guarantee you society would be better. But the problem that we have today is that men are not good. They could be way better. And men don't bond with other men. That's why the other gentleman that sat here said it's important for us to sit down and to speak. Why sit down and speak about things? Because we could agree to disagree, but it seems way worse when we don't speak. Like if I look at you and you look at me and we look at each other, you know, we might start drawing our guns. You know what I mean?
Host Sean
Yeah. Final statement.
King Azuli
But if we sit down and we talk, we could get to the bottom of it and end up to even agree to disagree but still be friends.
Mike
I think that we agree on some. Some of the stuff with the. With the mental health. I think we don't agree on the underlying cause. I think that men in America have failed. I think that's why we have such. Such a strong move to feminism now.
King Azuli
I agree with you on that.
Mike
I think that we. I think those are the main two things. So I think that that's where we're at.
King Azuli
I agree with you on that.
Host Sean
Awesome. Who's next?
King Azuli
Thank you.
Host Sean
Thanks for staying all the way to the end, guys.
King Azuli
It means a lot to me. If you could please leave a review
Host Sean
on Apple that helps us climb the charts. It helps us get way more guests and app helps us continue growing the podcast and the team. So it would mean a lot to me if you left the review on Apple or wherever else you're listening.
King Azuli
Thanks so much.
Host Sean
What's your biggest disagreement with him after watching him for the past three.
Isaac
You know what's funny? I'm listening to you talk and stuff, and I know you're Israeli and American and stuff, but your. Your lingo, like what you're talking about, frankly, I feel like we get an Iranian guy right from Iran and he would talk the same way you talk. You don't talk like an American. You don't talk like a liberal, liberalized American person. You have traditional fundamental values that probably all across the eastern world, they have those same fundamental values. And I wanted to bring that up because I know you were bringing up the Iran topic and traditionalism versus what's going on right now. Just want to get your feedback on what I just said.
King Azuli
What do you want to get my feedback on the Iran problem?
Isaac
Well, I don't know about the problem culture. What I'm trying to say is cult, culturally, where you're going is more traditional like you would find in the east, where versus the liberalized West. You're my. You're of that mindset which you think that we've gone too liberal in the west. It's destroying feminism, is destroying all this only fans, culture, whatever, is destroying the country, destroying men, which by the way, you guys were blaming it all on men, which both of you guys that were. When you're talking, I vehemently disagree with that. I think that's ridiculous. I think this is a product of Feminism. I think there's a product of chemicals and mental propaganda. What.
King Azuli
What's the name of the guy, by the way?
Isaac
I checked. The feminine feminism was coined by a French man. You were right about that. 1800s.
Host Sean
Thank you.
Jade
Wow.
Mike
Yeah.
Host Sean
Okay, we'll put that in the notes, though.
King Azuli
Yeah, yeah. Like, do me a favor. You bring us. You're bringing.
Ben
He.
Isaac
He coined feminism, which is when it started, because once he coined it, explain
Jade
something that was invented by a woman.
Kyla
Gotcha.
Isaac
I mean, you know what it is, this kind of beating on men all the time, like they're the. They're the core of the. It is just such nonsense because this country's falling apart because men are no longer masculine. You know, if we're more like Eastern men, it wouldn't be that way. And the other thing I want to bring up. Let me just bring this up, too. Let's talk about strip clubs and stuff. We're talking about mental health issues, and let's dissect what a strip club is like. Dudes go to strip clubs.
Jade
Are you qualified to do so?
Isaac
Yeah.
Jade
How so?
Isaac
Well, I've. I've seen. I've seen, I've seen. Do you want to hop on the mic and talk or like, did you
Hunter
know.
Isaac
I know all about circles, Ali. Let me talk. Actually, let me finish. Let me finish what I'm. Let me finish what I'm saying. No, strip clubs are. Are a bastion of mental health issues. The idea that a man's gonna go to strip club. And I know a lot of people go to strip clubs, and, you know. You know, what is the. The notion.
King Azuli
Paycheck at a strip club? I mean, if there's a mental health.
Mike
It's you. You're the one that's taking your paycheck.
Isaac
I never go to strip clubs.
Jade
Anything about.
King Azuli
You know. But this is the issue.
Isaac
Let me finish.
King Azuli
Let me finish what I'm saying.
Isaac
Let me finish what I'm saying, then.
King Azuli
But this is why feminism is an issue.
Isaac
Let me.
Kyla
Tell me.
Isaac
Let me finish what I'm saying. Let me finish.
King Azuli
It's not even in the conversation.
Isaac
I know, I know, but let me finish what I'm saying.
King Azuli
We don't have marriages.
Isaac
Yeah, yeah. Because what are we fighting for? This is my point. When Iran. When I look at Iran, and I'm not a fan of Iran, but what was inspiring about Iran is, like, when their country was attacked, tens of millions of people walked on the street. Sean knows this because we've been, like, exposing all the corruption in this country and through. Through podcasting and all that. We can't get people on the streets to go and protest our pharmaceutical industrial complex, the death jabs, the election fraud.
King Azuli
Like you're saying free Palestine, huh? But they'll go for free.
Isaac
Look, that's liberal. What I'm trying to say, what I'm trying to say is we can't get people on the streets to protest anything. And then I look at what's happening in Iran and they're protecting their women. Why aren't we protecting our women? It's because of this nonsense. It's because, because of the liberalism. And let's talk about mental health issues with men. When you talk about strip clubs, you're talking about dudes that go to strip club strip clubs. Girl, naked girl hops on their, on their lap, then goes on to the next one, then goes on to the next one. Like, literally, she's a hazmat issue at the end of it. Like, you know what I mean? Where she's got the spitlets of all these men. And men enjoy this. Like, think about that. Think about like your woman that you're getting a lap dance from has been through like 10, 15 dudes. The spit lits, the sweat, whatever, and then they're going to come sit on your lap and you're supposed to get enjoyment from that and blue balls. I mean, this is like actually a thing. Thing is actually a thing where we sit down and watch and get enjoyment out of it versus a man and a woman. And I know you and I are probably thinking the same thing, actually having a genuine connection, genuine love. Like, you see what I'm saying? Like, this is a mentally unwell society. So what business do we have to go to other parts of the world and be like, you guys are screwed, we're screwed here.
King Azuli
So I agree a million percent if United States said today we are not going to help anyone around the world anymore because Israel really doesn't need America anymore at the moment. We're, we're already good. I agree. For America to say we don't help anybody now, we're going to improve our nation. I agree to that. You need to improve this place. It's a matter of fact, I'm moving
Isaac
out of the U.S. you know, it's crazy. A lot of men that I know are doing this right now. And there's a reason why.
King Azuli
I bought a place in Dubai. Yeah, I bought a place in Thailand, I bought a place in Israel. And I'm thinking of buying a place in Miami, maybe Florida. And the Jewish community, like Miami gomorrah basically. Miami, Like Boca Raton, places like that, where there's Jewish communities. Maybe. But I might not have anything in the US Now. I'll tell you why. It's because I really feel like the US Went to it's. And I don't want my children raised in the US So I'll never have a child in the US Anymore. I told every woman that I've been speaking to if we will have children. And I choose you to be the mother of my child. I'm 36. I'm not sitting here trying to play that lovey dovey. You're a good woman. You're pretty. You're gonna be a good mother. I understand. It's a business arrangement. Will I fall in love with her?
Hunter
Maybe.
King Azuli
Will it be love like it did when I was 20 years old? No. I know that because you're doing it for the children.
Isaac
You want a strong mom for the children?
King Azuli
Yes. I don't need her to be the sexiest woman. I don't need her to be naked when we're walking outside. I don't need her to have a mini skirt. I need her to be cute, pretty, someone who works with me as a team. There is no problem between me and you. It's me and you versus the problem. And that's how we attack it. We don't attack each other. And you respect me as the men. I'm the man. I'm the head of the house. Does that work for you? Of course. This is how I was brought up. This is how my father was. This is how this. I will never date a woman today that her parents aren't together. Broken family. Not for me. Did it before. I will never be with a woman who has a sister that is older than her, that is older than 25 and not married already. Because this is what she's looking up to, which means she's not going to want to get married. I need a woman that is in a great environment, that they all think the way that I think. I've tried to change too many women. I will no longer try to change anybody.
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
You want to be a transgender? Be a transgender. You want to be gay?
Ben
Be gay.
King Azuli
You want to be lesbians. You want to work, you want to be out naked? It's fine. Pull your tits out. It's okay. You know what these women have done? You know how they say feminism, right? Feminism has helped the worst men get what they want.
Isaac
Exactly. Exactly.
King Azuli
Which is get your vagina and your tits easier than ever before.
Isaac
Yeah. They'll do. They'll say they'll do. When they say, say whatever they can to get the. And they're beta men and they're not leaders. And these are the guys probably hanging out at all the strip clubs, most of them.
King Azuli
And they're like sitting there telling them, I'll give you the world this and that. Get it? Buy. Continue. Next one.
Isaac
And then women get bitter and say all men suck because they're dating user class of compromising men that are betas.
King Azuli
Because a man like me will tell you as a woman, honey, you can't wear this. Not out in public. You could be naked at home, but not out in public. You can't have Instagram showing photos like this and like that.
Isaac
So let me ask you, like the idea that a woman wants to even do that, isn't that a hallmark of mental illness? Like the fact that she wants to exist, be an exhibitionist for the world, get nothing from it, lose her looks over time, then she hits that wall and now she's depressed for the rest of her life on pharmaceutical pharmaceuticals, which is great for the pharmaceutical companies, by
King Azuli
the way, very good for them.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
So they're saying that by 2030, more than 50% of women over the age of 30 will never have children. I will never date a woman over the age of 24. Because by the time that they're 25, they already established who they are. So if they're argumentive, that's how they're going to be. They already been with enough men. They've already done it all. I can't really show her anything. And if she's super hot, she's been to Santorini, she's been to the islands, she's been here, she's been there. She's been on a yacht in Miami, she's been on a private jet.
Isaac
Yeah. And she can't pair bond anymore.
King Azuli
What can I show her? I'm going to take her on the jet. She's been on it. I'm going to take her in the Rolls Royce. She's been in it. I don't need that. I need a woman that I come to her. Like, I worked really hard. I wanted to be this stoic warrior that's arriving on the white horse, you know, ready to just give her the world and she needs to accept it. But if she's already have her ways and she already has a job, she's not going to give up her job for taking care of the children. No, she's already working. So I want someone that's before that, so she never has to think, well, now I have to give up my job. I've already dated 10 men. I've already been around, I've traveled the world, I've seen all of this. Well, it doesn't really matter to me, blah, blah, blah. Next thing you know, it doesn't really work out. We get married and we get divorced. She tries to take half of my we should.
Kyla
I.
King Azuli
It's a problem. It's a problem for men.
Isaac
You brought up something with the family law. Taking half or more, 70% or more. Sometimes it's like the life of the person that actually is a real thing when it comes to the laws in this country and how men are treated. So again, like, why do men have to fight for our women anymore? There's no reason to fight for them. That's my point is my son was
King Azuli
taken away from me five years ago from family law. My ex that I had a child with, I told her I don't want to be with her. She got pregnant after three weeks of us meeting, told her I didn't want to be with her. I stayed until my son was one. And then she told me she was just going to go travel to Ohio to see her family. After three months in Ohio of her staying there, Ohio takes jurisdiction over myself.
Isaac
Over the kids. Yeah.
King Azuli
Then he's not the Californian boy anymore. By the time I understood what she was doing to me, I started looking for her and she disappeared. Pretty much kidnapped him. By the time I got to the courts, they said to me, well, you didn't pay child support for a year, so you're not the legal guardian anymore.
Isaac
Which is BS, by the way. They just made that up. It's like, that's like literally they're putting a price on your kid's head. But that's the kind of stuff that a lot like 40, 50% of men have been through this nonsense.
King Azuli
$600,000 on lawyers. I lost five years from my son three years ago. I got on social media so my son will know who I am.
Isaac
You haven't seen your son since then?
King Azuli
No. Five years. See, today. Today I am the most famous influencer in the world with the most views. I've had 50 billion views because of people like him throwing me up everywhere. I've had 50 billion views. Whether I talk bad about me or good about me, I own the youth. The youth loves me. I just booked a movie role to be a superhero in a huge movie. My life is going exactly where I wanted to go. I have a Fight. Coming up. My son will know who I am. More than that, he will have to watch a movie and tell his mom. Mom, I want to be like him, that superhero. And she's going to have to tell him. You will. You know why? Because that's your father.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
So everything I've done was for my son. I don't need to be on social media. This place. Yeah, this place is a junk.
Isaac
Yeah. Yeah.
King Azuli
That's why I have so much respect today for Andrew Tate. From the beginning until today. Today, I offer him a million times more respect, because the amount of death threats and that I get every single day to get on here, not make money, but to do everything in my power to help men become better and stronger. And, yeah, I give you tough love, because this is how I got it. I got from my dad, tough love. If I need to get a. Of sense, a smack, I got a smack. If I need to get a battery or a phone to the head, I got a phone to the head. I have 24 stitches here from my dad because he took the kettle and put it in my head, threw it across the room, and it hit me right here, and I went bleeding. I was 10 years old. My grandpa taught me how to fight by beating the out of me. He taught me how to swim by drowning me. Taught me how to ride a bicycle by tossing me down the. The road. And I ran into a electrical pole and my whole face, like, got smashed. And I woke up in the hospital. That's how I learned how to ride a bicycle.
Isaac
I mean, that's, that, That's a man's journey right there. But most men are like, like.
King Azuli
But most men today don't have that. Their grandpa, the, the. The father, They've been extinct.
Isaac
They don't have these because of generational, because they took out the father from the family. So now you have all these kids growing up with a single mom. A lot of kids grow. Growing up with a single mom, and a lot of kids growing up with a single mom don't know how to be a man. And then they grow up, they don't even know how to, like, love a woman. So then they go to strip clubs, then they go to. Then they go to only fans. And that's mental illness right there.
King Azuli
And then they go to prison.
Isaac
I know. I know a lot about this. I was actually a music video director and I work with a lot of. I mean, I've been, I've been around, girl, I've been around. I've been around like 10 times more. Than you.
King Azuli
She thinks she's doing a good thing. She thinks that.
Isaac
She thinks I'm totally qualified. I've hung out with celebrities. I've hung out with famous rappers. I'm totally qualified to talk about this. And I've seen. I see. You got to be. You got to be personally insulting. I'm telling you, I've seen this. I've seen where it goes. They become drug addicts, they become losers, and these are celebrities that fall into that lifestyle.
King Azuli
She believes that being naked on stage or on another man. That she does.
Isaac
Not generalizing.
King Azuli
Wait, she's not a stripper.
Isaac
It's not generalizing.
King Azuli
My mistake. She's star.
Ben
Yeah.
Jade
There are differences.
King Azuli
And she believes that sleeping with different men.
Isaac
I mean, if you're producing children and you had. You had an example of a child next to you, where you're like, look, I went through the world and this is my child, and look how great he is, then that's a good example. Actually. I've been married.
Ben
Yeah, I've been once.
Isaac
Once.
Mike
You're not married now?
Isaac
No, I'm not.
Mike
I wonder why.
Jade
I wonder why.
Isaac
See, See, you got. You got. You got to knock them in. That's how you do got. That's how you got to clear your. You got to attack the man when you don't even know the story. You don't even know the story. No, because she's attacking me, saying, I
King Azuli
don't know what to talk about when
Isaac
I've been through all these circles.
King Azuli
This reminds me of Israel and Palestine. This reminds me of Israel and Palestine. You're attacking these poor Palestinians and then saying that.
Mike
But it's your check that you're dropping the.
Isaac
I never. I've never, ever. On the stage at the strip club.
King Azuli
You have to understand.
Isaac
Because I hung out with MMA guys that wanted me to do content for them, and then they took me to strip up. But what I observed. What I observed.
King Azuli
Why did you point that to me? I never took it.
Isaac
No, no, because you're an mma. You're an MMA guy. So, like, the reason I even went to strip clubs is because MMA guys want.
Mike
He's not only. Not only is he criticizing what a strip club is, but he goes, he's not. He's not the president.
King Azuli
Well, maybe he made a mistake in the past.
Isaac
No, no. I'm a director, so I hang out.
King Azuli
Oh, that's your experience. Excuse a director. Who do you direct? But this is the promise that you have a man that.
Isaac
Look at my resume, dude. I mean, you want to look at my resume.
King Azuli
You have.
Mike
You want.
Isaac
You want to really look at my resume? I've been to. I've been to the parties.
King Azuli
I've seen what's happened by yourself here. This is the issue that makes money off of strippers.
Ben
No, no, I'm not actually that.
King Azuli
It's completely fine to do that. Oh, I did, obviously.
Isaac
And I've seen these guys turn.
Ben
I've seen.
Isaac
Seen these guys turn into drug addicts. I've seen them go into depression because of that lifestyle.
Hunter
Stupid.
Isaac
Because of me. I did that. I'm the one stripping. I'm the one that's doing that on the stage. No, actually, I know a lot of
King Azuli
what I'm talking about.
Isaac
Yeah, I know. I know a lot about what I'm talking about. Actually, he seems. He seems like he's agreeing with me. He's agreeing.
Mike
Are you too weak to have a diet? I mean, ask him.
King Azuli
Well, most. Dude, most men don't know how to shut the up.
Mike
Well, yeah, but he doesn't know how to stop eating.
Isaac
All right, so what other.
Hunter
What other.
Mike
What other.
Isaac
What other assumptions do you have?
King Azuli
I spoke for like 30 minutes about being your assumptions. Here's.
Isaac
Get your assumptions out and then let me talk. Finish your assumptions about assumptions. No, no, no.
Jade
I'm making assumptions about strip clubs. The people who work there and the people in adult industry.
Isaac
Dude, strip clubs. 90. 90. 90% of strip club. 90% of strippers have daddy issues. They have daddy issues.
King Azuli
All right, all right. Can I say something so we.
Jade
We don't.
King Azuli
Can I say something so we don't yell? All right, look, look, I'll tell you something. In my past life, I used to interrogate terrorists.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
And one of the thing about every terrorist that I interrogated.
Isaac
Do you not speak Arabic, by the way?
King Azuli
No.
Isaac
No.
Host Sean
Okay. No.
King Azuli
A little bit, though.
Isaac
Okay.
King Azuli
One of the things that I've realized that all of them believe that they were doing the right thing. None of them believed that they were wrong. So blowing up a bus or blowing up a school or blowing up themselves is completely fine to do because they are right. So everyone is right. She's right in her mind. You are right in your mind. He's right in his mind. Everyone is protecting something that they believe that they are right about. The problem is that today common sense isn't that common anymore.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
People have sold their souls to the devil to make more money, and they believe that what they're doing is right. Unfortunately, it's not right. And I could tell you from my own experience, don't think that I'm this man that never wanted to sleep around with women. I've been with over 4,000 women in my life. I am the craziest. I have thing, man. I love having sex, but today I keep it for one woman. And then when I love her, I have sex with her all day, 15 times a day. So that is the truth on why I don't want.
Isaac
Why were you banging 4, 000 girls? So that was the, wasn't that the indoctrination that taught you when you're growing up? That that was actually something.
King Azuli
So I used to watch, I used to watch some stars. My favorite one was Phoenix Marie. I used to jerk off to her. And then any woman that looked anything like her, I was all about now. I also love the milfs. For me, I always liked older women. Their problem today is that I realized that the MILFs are younger than me. Yeah, they are. No, they, they're, they're younger than me. You know, they're 32, 33.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
These MILFs are not even my age anymore. So you kind of get like this new life perspective where you can't see MILF sandwiches. Oh, am I going to look at a 45 year old woman? That's just not going to work. But When I was 18, when I was 20, most of the girls I loved sleeping with were in their early 30s because they're a real woman, you know, and if you take a woman that let's say trains for about 10, 15 years, builds a nice physique, they're at their peak at like early 30s. They look the sexiest, they look the best. So today I want a younger woman only because I prefer her to be more untouched.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
But beautiful women, sexy women, they're usually already in their 30s. You want. And women think that when I say I want a younger woman, it's like, oh, she's not good. It's not that she's not good. I want to have 12 children.
Isaac
Yeah. Yeah.
King Azuli
I want my children to stay away from and all that stuff. I want to make sure that I have a wife that is still the, the sweetness, the naiveness, the, the one that has not been
Hunter
like we say
King Azuli
around the corner, you know?
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
Like we don't want that. We want a woman that is pure.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
So women have to understand they, women have access to sex. Men have access to relationship and marriages. And when a woman gives that up very quickly, she loses all of her power. But also she loses her power as she gets older because a woman's power is her beauty. And a man's beauty is his power. And we become more powerful as we get older. So if they're playing around, they're not getting to an age where most men are not going to want that. When they are already successful, they can find the regular men that will want that and will accept it. But he's only accepting it because you're the best thing that he could get. And if he could get better, he wouldn't be with you in the first place. So when you have a man like me that comes and chooses a woman, you know, he really chose the woman. He didn't settle for that woman.
Evelyn
All right.
King Azuli
It's a beautiful thing. We got two more.
Host Sean
You want to make a final statement?
King Azuli
I guess we agree on everything.
Isaac
It's weird. We agree on. Yeah.
Host Sean
You guys agree on a lot.
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
Cool. If you learned anything from this episode.
Host Sean
Episode or got any value at all, please share this episode with a friend. It helps us grow the channel, it helps us grow the podcast, and it means a lot to us. Thank you so much. What do you got? All right, so I got my pen so I don't get lost.
King Azuli
Okay.
Host Sean
You definitely. You were much better at debating me last time. I didn't. Oh, here's a microphone. Might help. So couple qualifying questions so I understand where you're coming from. What is your definition of feminism? I'll. My short is equal rights and opportunities as men. Would you agree that's what the feminism movement is for?
King Azuli
I wish it was for that, cuz I believe in equal right. I wish it was for that cuz I believe in equal rights.
Host Sean
Okay.
King Azuli
And I don't believe in suppressing any human. Live and let live.
Host Sean
Gotcha.
King Azuli
That's what I live by.
Host Sean
Okay.
King Azuli
In order to have a family, okay. There are certain things that a man and a woman has to give up on. That's why there's the single life, there's the married life. Right. So certain things we have to give up on it and also compromise. But I've realized also the more money I got to in my life, the less I needed to compromise on things. Because the more money I received and I earned and I made, the more women I was able to attract. And now I could choose from the women who actually think like me and don't have to settle for somebody that just good looking but doesn't think anything like me.
Host Sean
Okay, so do you believe. So you believe women should have the right to vote?
King Azuli
Yes.
Host Sean
Okay. We're knocking them out. We're doing great. Property rights, you're fine with that?
King Azuli
Like buying a property.
Host Sean
Yeah. Just going through the same rights.
King Azuli
Sure.
Host Sean
Education, you're fine with a woman educated.
King Azuli
Of course.
Host Sean
Okay, how about marital laws?
King Azuli
Marry a what?
Host Sean
Marital. So in many states. In the United States you were allowed to, in the terms back then, rape your wife, but you would not be able to get charged for it because once you conceded conceited. Once you got married, you were never
King Azuli
even heard of this.
Host Sean
Correct.
King Azuli
So this is, this is something that's very new to me.
Host Sean
So this is why women were looking for their independence. So with their independence, they're not saying that I want radical independence, which is I don't need anyone, which I think that you've been leading to. What they're saying is I want interdependence. Very long word for me. I could survive without you, but I choose to build my life with you. And I think we're having a difference on of. Women want to be radically independent, so they don't need men anymore. As opposed to now they have the option to find a man because beforehand they were dependent on a man financially and physically. Like back in the day, it was a lot harder for women just to be alive. Anybody could come and take you, beat you. There's just a lot less rights for women back then. So it was smart to be with a man who had money, who could protect you in those things.
King Azuli
Right. So as the world gotten easier.
Host Sean
Agreed.
King Azuli
Right.
Host Sean
Yeah.
King Azuli
Women are less dependent on men. Right. Cuz it was more, it was more a survival reason.
Host Sean
Correct. So that now since they're not as dependent, they don't need as many, they could raise the bar.
King Azuli
So now there is multiple issues and it's a, it's very interesting what you have there because one, I never knew that husbands were allowed to rape their wives. This is crazy to me. Two, I don't understand why a husband would even need to rape his wife. If they're married and they're. They should be happy and having sex.
Host Sean
Right. I agree. The bar was extremely low for men because all they had to do was to have a job which you could work a minimum wage job at a lot of different places and you just had to be around your wife to protect her. But now since life has gotten easier, those are not the only factors. And men more or less had to become more well rounded as you suggest.
King Azuli
So back then, when my grandpa met my grandma, he had a normal job.
Isaac
Yes.
King Azuli
On his own, he didn't need my grandma to work. Right. He didn't need my grandma to work. He Was able to sustain a family, he was able to take care of them.
Host Sean
Love it.
King Azuli
They didn't both have to work.
Host Sean
Fantastic.
King Azuli
Now, with inflation and everything becoming more and more expensive, but men make less money. This is the elite's job, to get the women out of the house. So they will work. Now, once you have both of them working, the system is raising your children. So today you see weaker children than ever before. It was all a plan. Now, why was it easy to tell a woman you should work? Because it's very easy to manipulate a pure woman. But as women get older, they lose their pureness. And by the time that they are 30 and already have been in different situation, different relationships, different jobs, different places around the world, they are no longer pure. They don't think with their heart or their soul. They think with their mind. So I think if it makes, if it makes sense for them to enter the relationship or not to enter the relationship now. Ever since the beginning of time that women were working, women worked harder than men. They didn't go to work and build construction sites and stuff like that, but working in wells, working in, in, in factories. You know, a lot of factory work, a lot of factory workers. Like, if you go to Asia, you'll see hundreds of women working in factories hours and hours and hours and hours. So they work really hard. And they're also very smart. Like, for example, if I give someone to do my accounting, I don't give it to a man, I give it to a woman.
Host Sean
So I think, I don't think you're making points for or, or against feminism. I think we're talking about the same thing that you mentioned, the system in
King Azuli
place, but the system that built female feminism. They started just like I said.
Host Sean
But how did they get the women into businesses?
King Azuli
Just like, well, they wanted to break up families, but it was World War
Host Sean
II that the women were told, hey, you guys need to come into the factories. And what happened after that is, unfortunately, the pool for workers got expanded, so the corporations no longer had to pay their workers. So that was wage stagnation. They're like, hey, we can minimally provide for our workers and we're going to keep having them. And then the companies also saw it's like, hey, we have double the amount of people that can be buying stuff from us. So they're like, we need to keep this thing going on. So I think it had less to do with feminism, had more to do with, like you said, the elites ruling the system.
King Azuli
At first they told him, just come to work, right?
Host Sean
Well, it's, hey, we need to build whatever it is because the men aren't here, they're fighting overseas.
King Azuli
I think the beginning, before that, they were like, hey, women, you should start smoking because it makes you strong. So they got women to start smoking.
Host Sean
But, but that's not feminism. That is, that is a corporation is looking for someone to buy something.
King Azuli
When you're talking about, when you're talking about feminism, you're talking about giving power to women. No, that's how feminism seems like today. Not what it started.
Host Sean
I will give you that.
King Azuli
At first it told you, oh, feminism is the fact that you know you're going to have equal rights. And that's why it was easy to bring them towards that side. You're going to have equal rights. You're going to work, you're going to be able to vote, you're going to be able to buy property, whatever it is. Right. That's what feminism was in the beginning.
Host Sean
I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out. You're saying there were people sitting in a room, they said, hey, we need to get women into the workforce. Let's start. I'm, I'm giving a hypothetical that draws you to a conclusion. I don't want to do that. You don't think that they were taking advantage of, of the extra consumers. And then that was something of the fault of economic pressure that is forcing women into these things and men, because like you said, they can't afford to do anything a woman goes to school or does anything.
King Azuli
Because it seemed like it was all, it seemed like it was all a plan.
Host Sean
I'm all for our all a plan, but right now, my suggestion is from World War II, they went into the offices, the jobs, and from there the corporation saw consumers.
King Azuli
You're saying, why didn't they go into building houses, putting up bricks, putting up lumber framing foundation. They only go into the easy jobs.
Host Sean
That is not answering my question, though.
David
You're.
Host Sean
I'm. I'm posing a. I'm posing how it happened. And now you would say something the elites said had this idea, so they wanted to get, continue this. But that's not putting it on feminism. Feminism is just equal rights.
King Azuli
Okay, so now we have equal rights.
Host Sean
Okay.
King Azuli
Okay, what's next? What do you mean, what's next? Now we have equal rights, right? Okay, so we agreed. I agree that we have equal rights. All right, now that we have equal rights, where did that bring us?
Host Sean
So I think so on my position, lead by example. We want fathers that matter, mothers that matter. Masculinity that matters. Femininity that matters. Society does have these problems, but I don't believe feminism is the real, is not the cause of it. Like you said, you've said it many times. The elites are the ones pulling the strings.
King Azuli
They created feminism and now feminism. But this is like anti family.
Host Sean
But this is using like immigrants as a scapegoat for why prices are cheap. The immigrants are here because they are cheap labor, cheap labor. And they want the corporations to be able to pay a small amount of money because that, that's what the options are. I think it's taking advantage of a situation.
King Azuli
Right. You have to understand that when a man wants to marry a woman, he wants to marry a woman that's going to be a real woman. He's not here, though. He's not. He's not going to marry. He's not going to marry just any woman because now he has to give up his whole life for her. So he's going to marry a real woman. We talked about earlier what a real woman is. But you got to give me why
Host Sean
feminism takes that away.
King Azuli
Because I'll tell you why I interrupted. So when you have a woman that is taught today. And I'll give you for a perfect example, like my ex who worked before she met me when she was younger, her mother told her, look, honey, no matter what, you need to learn how to make your own money because you can't count on a man. That's number one problem.
Host Sean
Can I, Can I now, Can I react to that instead of. Because I feel like I'm gonna get lost.
King Azuli
Now she's being, I need to finish it. Now she's getting to a later age where she's now dating. And now she thinks, I can't, I can't sit there and rely on the men. So now I have to work. So now she starts working. Well, where does she work? She works with women and men. Now men are hitting on her. She has to tell them, I'm not interested. And slowly, slowly, because if she'll stay feminine, they're going to feel like they're flirting. So now she has to become more masculine. Now one thing that you have to understand is that masculinity is essential for survival. So when women go into the workforce, they're not used to working. So it's something new. Superhero values take on powerful new forms in the US Mint's comic Art Coin
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King Azuli
So they start becoming more masculine in order to survive in the workforce with men and also having to wake up in the morning, get ready, go to work, listen to a boss, come back home, clean for themselves, cook for themselves, go to sleep and do it over and over and over again and step away from the life of having children, which is the most beautiful thing.
Host Sean
So I agree. But the reason behind it, I believe, like you said, wage stagnation. A woman would not have to go to work if she does not want to, if she could rely on a man. Would you give me that?
King Azuli
Yes.
Host Sean
So that would be. That is what I think the main pressure is. And feminism is being used as scapegoat. But I'm going to. I'm going to take that win.
King Azuli
I think that. I think that men are a bunch of pussies today and they can be counted on. And that is why women have to work.
Host Sean
I think it has more to do with the economic pressures and the people that make the decisions. Where our monetary, like you said, the Federal Reserve, we have inflation, we have housing problems and those are causing stress. I got one more point.
King Azuli
But I came from a home that we didn't have money. Yes, Right. I came from Israel.
Ben
Correct.
King Azuli
I was homeless at 17 because my dad kicked me out of the house. I've dealt with many different issues.
Host Sean
I think I was homeless for a day.
King Azuli
But at the same time I still got to the point where I was worth nine figures.
Isaac
How.
King Azuli
How did that happen? And still kept a fit body, strong mind, constantly work on myself if I'm able to get to nine figures.
Host Sean
Yeah.
King Azuli
And if Elon is able to become a trillionaire, I think that a normal man should be able to make 120 grand a year to keep a family. And if he can't live in California making 120 grand a year, he can move to the Midwest. He can move somewhere else where it's much cheaper. Also today there's a lot of ways to make money remotely. Where you could live in places like Dubai, you can live in Thailand, you can live in Bali, Indonesia, you can live in Costa Rica and take care of your family for very cheap. But make sure that your wife and your children are taken care of and have a good job.
Isaac
Correct.
Host Sean
But statistically it has gotten worse or harder to purchase a home since the 1980s. And all of these issues are economic pressures. A man used to be able to purchase a home off minimum wage. It was five to seven years of his annual salary. So yes, 100% people can make more money. But life becomes easier once for a woman to Stay at home. I think any woman that wants to stay at home, there should not be an economic pressure is that keeping her at whatever work that is.
King Azuli
And that's why I said the elites, they did something very smart. The elites did it very smart. Yes. They realized that men and women are working together. They're not controlling the children. They wanted to control them. So I told women, in order for you to have equal rights, you should also work. You should do these things that men are doing. Then they started doing that. Then they started separating between the children and the parents.
Host Sean
I'm actually a stay at home dad as well.
King Azuli
So they separated between the partners. Because now both of them are going to work. The children are being raised by the system. And then now these children had more children, which are the children of today. And you get to see that these children are weak. They don't even know how to change a light bulb. They don't know how to put in work. They're really suffering because of the fact that mothers aren't home. And then when they realized that mothers were starting to sit home again, they said, well, let's give them inflation. We'll give them inflation now. So she has to keep working. So they made the society a society that must work. It's a society of workers, a bunch of sheeps. There's so many things that we are paying for in this country that we shouldn't be paying for. But we're doing it because they want to keep the family separated. And that's why you have. Today, 82% of marriages are initiated by a woman. Only 18 of it is initiated by a man. Men stick around, but women are like, well, I'm working, I don't need to stick around. But now you have fucked up kids because all these children don't have the dad and mom at home. Or they see all of a sudden the mom bringing a boyfriend and different boyfriend, and it's just again, one after the other. There's an issue with that. So we need to get to the bottom of this. The bottom of this is not saying feminism. It's not saying Jews, it's not saying Christians. It's us on the bottom against them at the top.
Host Sean
I'm with you.
King Azuli
And we need to work together as a team.
Host Sean
Perfect.
King Azuli
Now how do we work as a team? Men at the bottom need to work together. The women at the bottom need to trust their men to believe that they're going to do the best thing for the family.
Host Sean
I would suggest trust but verify.
King Azuli
But if we have too many cooks in one kitchen. We're not going to be able to cook.
Evelyn
All right.
Host Sean
Anything else? No, I. I think it was fantastic. We agree about a lot of things. I think we did get to. Economic pressures do not help the family household. And if we were able to keep whatever woman wanted to stay at home with their children, I think that'd be very beneficial. Thanks for watching. All the way to the end. Guys, please hit like and subscribe. It helps us grow the show and helps us get bigger guests. Thank you so much.
King Azuli
What do you think seeing him debate
Host Sean
the past three hours?
King Azuli
Bro, it was three hours. Five hours.
Hunter
That might have been the most entertaining thing in my life. I loved when you said, mike, you're a. I love that. That was like my favorite part in the whole set.
Host Sean
It straight to his face and the guy didn't react.
Hunter
I was like, how do you take that?
Host Sean
As a man?
Hunter
Yeah, how do you take that? Like, I know you wouldn't let that slide. No way. No way.
King Azuli
Depends who it's coming from for me.
Host Sean
If it's someone I respect, I'll.
King Azuli
I'll shut up.
Mike
But.
Hunter
Yeah, yeah, but like it. Who would win? Jon Jones or you? Cuz I know you. You know some kung fu and I know you have like a secret technique that you don't want to use.
King Azuli
And I don't want to pull him out, but I have 16 in the clip and one in the hole.
Hunter
But you said you could be in
King Azuli
fair and square before King Aula is about to make some bodies turn cold.
Host Sean
Prime Jon Jones. We talking right now.
Hunter
I'm talking Prime Jon Jones. I don't know.
Host Sean
No one's beaten Prime John Jones.
Hunter
He said he has a chance.
King Azuli
So look, I said the only guy who could beat me is Jon Jones.
Hunter
Probably. Okay?
King Azuli
Other than that, nobody else. Okay, but he'll still get a fight.
Host Sean
Okay?
King Azuli
He's still gonna get a fight. I'm not some that are just. Yeah, he's still gonna get kicked. He's gonna get punched. He's gonna get bruised. He's gonna get bloody. Okay, maybe Tough fight. Yeah, it's gonna be a tough fight for him.
Hunter
Yeah, yeah.
King Azuli
It's not gonna be an easy walk in the park.
Mike
Park.
Hunter
Okay, I got you.
King Azuli
Now could I win? Of course I could win. You know how much. How many pounds of pressure it takes to put you to sleep?
Hunter
3. 3.
King Azuli
3 pounds of pressure on your chin put you to sleep. So you think nobody could get a lucky shot? Everybody should get a lucky shot.
Hunter
That is true. You would have to be like lottery lucky to Hit him, though.
King Azuli
I don't know.
Hunter
Yeah, I don't know either.
King Azuli
But, hey, when you in the John Jones, if you. If you want to test that theory.
Hunter
Yeah. Me and him will take you. We'll do it.
King Azuli
No, no. Me. Only me.
Hunter
Okay. Okay.
King Azuli
You know why I said that, too?
Host Sean
Why?
King Azuli
Because if I get that lucky moment.
Ben
Yeah.
King Azuli
And I beat him. I just beat the greatest of all times.
Hunter
And you become the greatest of all time.
King Azuli
Exactly.
Hunter
You become.
King Azuli
And if I didn't beat him, I lose to the greatest of all times.
Hunter
Exactly.
King Azuli
So what's the problem?
Hunter
No problem.
King Azuli
There is no problem.
Hunter
See, this is what I'm talking about. Pure intellect right here. When them stars were jumping on him. Didn't even phase him.
King Azuli
No, not at all. I would have said more. I just. It's women. I don't know what to say with them. What am I gonna do with women? You know? So the other one sat in front of me. I don't want you. You don't have to insult me.
Hunter
You were the bigger man. Yeah.
King Azuli
Your insecurities are crazy.
Hunter
Yeah.
Mike
I know.
King Azuli
When I have to work and my husband has to work.
Host Sean
He was more stoic.
Hunter
Yeah, he was more stoic. Like the. The lady was saying, like the vic.
King Azuli
Like the Victorian stoic or.
Evelyn
No.
Hunter
Or the Greek stoic.
Kyla
I don't know.
Hunter
But the transgender star, that was Socrates and Aristotle. I think you were both Socrates and Aristotle. You know, I don't know what she was, but she was something like. It was like debating.
King Azuli
Socrates was amazing.
Hunter
Exactly.
King Azuli
I think I'm more like Marcus Aurelius. And I kind of think a little bit also like Machiavellian.
Hunter
Machiavelli.
Mike
Okay.
King Azuli
In ways, I do feel like Alex sounded the great. In some ways.
Hunter
It's my blood right there.
King Azuli
I'm part Greek as well.
Hunter
Really?
Evelyn
Yeah.
Hunter
Maybe we're related. Maybe.
King Azuli
No, cousin, I. I've said before, you see, I put right here, my father, Zeus. This is Zeus right here.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
I told people I'm a demigod. And I found out a month ago.
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
That Alexander the Great was telling people that he was half man, half God. That he was a demigod.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
And that's how he scared off people. So, you see, everybody that was sitting in front of me was shaking. They didn't know what to expect. Now, let's be real. All of the. That they're talking here, a bunch of idiots.
Hunter
That's what I'm saying.
King Azuli
You know why?
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
Because I have a door. That was encouraging. We're gonna go to strip club. Yes.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
And then I have another guy over there that tells me that he's, like, a Jew, but not a Jew, and he's. For Jews to have a country, all the Jews should go there. Wait, by Christianity.
Hunter
I was confused. He was, like, asking me about my ethnicity. He was like, you look Aryan. I'm like, what? I didn't know he was talking about. And then it kind of clicked.
King Azuli
I'm like, oh, you know what? I realized today in this debate that people are really confused.
Hunter
I know.
King Azuli
Also with yesterday's debate, I just realized that people are very confused today. Very confused. And everybody has something to say.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
Back in the day, I think people would just speak what they had to say, and now they just feel like they have to say something, like they had something to say, and today they feel like they have to say something. It's like, completely different.
Evelyn
Friends. Yeah.
Hunter
Like, even me sometimes I'll just say, you know, just for the content, you
King Azuli
know, and it's cool.
Kyla
I'm.
King Azuli
I'm all for the content and all that, and I like that. But there's. There was a lot of. A lot of stupidity here. I know, I know. A lot of stupidity.
Hunter
But us five here, left here. No stupidity.
King Azuli
No.
Hunter
We're all intelligent.
Mike
Yeah.
King Azuli
You're actually an intelligent young man.
Hunter
Thank you. I appreciate that.
King Azuli
I think the content that you're making is not really helpful for you.
Mike
Oh.
King Azuli
Because it's not. It's not gonna build your Persona on social media. It's just catching you a little bit of views. But I think if you wanted to really build a Persona on social media and something strong, I would change your diet. So we could get rid of your acne and you could show them how you look better now.
Hunter
Okay, here's the thing. It was actually completely clear for, like, six months. When I got on Accutane stuff, it was completely clear. And then when I came here, it just flared up. So I don't know, maybe you put a curse on me or something.
Ben
Maybe.
Hunter
I don't know, you put some Shaolin monk thing in my drink.
King Azuli
But I think if we. If we show what you look like now.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
And then change your diet up completely and then see it all gone.
Hunter
This is coming from.
King Azuli
You could inspire a lot of people.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
Yeah. And you could get in the gym, workout, get a nice physique, showing that you're a real man. You're 20 years old. Start doing something online, run a business, show people the progress. I think you can do way better than making some. You're making some Whatever reaction to stupid videos, you know?
Hunter
Well, I mean, okay, come on, bro, you are. I know you ain't talking right now, but they're funny.
King Azuli
They're funny, but at the end of the day, they're not going to help you. Long run.
Hunter
Okay.
King Azuli
I want to give you something for you, for the long run. Cuz you're 20 years old, you have life ahead of you. But before you're going to notice that, you're going to be 30 and you'll be 40.
David
Me?
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
Within a blink of an eye.
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
So if your life is gonna be a joke, your life is gonna be a joke.
Hunter
And you don't think your content's a joke? No.
King Azuli
Well, my content, everything that people post outside of my page.
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
It's all about joking around.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
Why? Because I'm bringing in all of the youth. They like the joking, they like the messing around. Yeah, they love it. That's why when they see me places, they're like, oh my God, it's King Azula. I'm like, they're a hero because I make them laugh.
Hunter
Oh yeah.
King Azuli
If I'm gonna be only serious on the other platforms.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
I'm not gonna be able to attract their attention.
Hunter
It's very true.
King Azuli
Getting their attention. It's, it's. You have to understand, this isn't psychology. I know how to grab their attention. Once I grab the attention in a couple of years when they grow up, they will listen to the more serious content.
Hunter
Okay, what's an example of your serious content? Because, like, I'm a little confused. All I see is like sometimes I see you post and like it's motivational, but it's like, it's memeable. You know what I mean?
King Azuli
Well, I think I'm seen at the moment more of a meme. Right. But it's starting to transition. One, most people that connect with me are like godly people. So if you have no connection to God, you're not going to connect with me?
Hunter
I do have connection with God.
King Azuli
If you do have a connection with God, you will connect with my content. Because I speak a lot about God, number one. Number two, I speak about being strong, being stoic, being able to handle your business, be in a good circle, stay away from drugs, all that stuff.
Hunter
Of course.
King Azuli
Listen to rap music. I. I keep my mind clear.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
So this serious content is good for you? Sometimes I speak about business. I speak about the world.
Host Sean
The world.
King Azuli
Events, things that are happening. This is good stuff for you. I'm actually speaking to people like you.
Hunter
Okay.
King Azuli
Because I want you to do better. Look, at the age of 20, I was already worth, like $2 million by the time I was 21. I was a multi millionaire.
Hunter
How are you worth $2 million?
King Azuli
So how much money are you worth right now?
Hunter
I'm in college right now.
King Azuli
So you're in college. Why are you going to college? Do you know?
Hunter
Education.
King Azuli
Okay, education. You know the word education derived from the word educo, which came from a Latin word which means. Means to learn within. Oh, not without. So right now you're going to educate yourself with the. That they're teaching you to keep you a slave.
Hunter
Yeah, I should be like an F student. Forget all this. Teacher. Sorry. See you. King Z told me to go.
King Azuli
What car does your teacher drive? What house does he live in?
Hunter
I don't know.
King Azuli
I live across the street from Will Smith. I live down the street from Kevin Hart.
Hunter
Okay.
King Azuli
I live down the street from the other side from the Kardashians. Where do you live? Where does your teacher live?
Hunter
Well, I live in Orange county right now, so not. Not a bad place.
King Azuli
It's a nice place, and you're a nice guy. But the end of the day, you want to be a good man, that people look up to you. I step into a room, nobody turns me into a joke anymore. Everybody takes me serious. Everybody sees a good, strong man coming in. Now, they don't fear me because I don't walk in looking at people, trying to make them fear me. But I could guarantee you that if I stepped into this room and stared at everybody like a fucking maniac, which I know how to do, everybody would piss their pants.
Isaac
No.
King Azuli
100%.
Isaac
No.
King Azuli
Yes. I've done it in the past.
Hunter
Do the stare down. Is it gonna work?
King Azuli
I've done it in the past. You know, I don't need you to wet the floor. But I've done it in the past. But today, when I come into a place, people see me. They see a guy that is well put together. He is determined to win, he's fit, he's disciplined, drives a really nice car, what can I say? Only good things. Who is this guy? I wonder who he is. I'd like to get to know him, but if I stepped into a room right now and I got pimples all over my face, not a penny in my pocket, and I go to college and I listen to a fucking stupid teacher that can't get me anywhere, well, how they're gonna look at me? And hair like a girl.
Hunter
Listen, I'm sorry. I didn't I didn't want to bring this up, but I'm not gonna, like, listen to somebody who got a conviction with sleeping with a 13 year old. I'm just saying.
David
Wait.
Hunter
I'm sorry.
Kyla
Wait, wait, wait.
King Azuli
Okay.
Hunter
I'm not. I'm not.
King Azuli
Can we fact check it?
Mike
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Hunter
Fact check.
Mike
Sure.
King Azuli
Let's fact.
Host Sean
I ran out of credits.
King Azuli
Huh? I ran out of credit. Let's fact check it.
Host Sean
I can look it up.
King Azuli
Man, I really have.
Hunter
Forget it.
King Azuli
Pimples on my face. It's like, no problem. So let's go back to that. I love. I love that you mentioned that.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
Thank you very much. First of all, she was 15.
Hunter
That doesn't make it better.
King Azuli
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. First of all.
Hunter
Holy.
King Azuli
She was 15, not 13. Let's start there.
Mike
Ah.
King Azuli
Second. It makes it better, guys. Second. Okay, how old was I?
Hunter
Eighteen.
King Azuli
Eighteen. My 18th birthday. All right, now, was it sleeping with her or was it getting a blow job?
Hunter
Once again, that doesn't make it better.
King Azuli
Hold on. What was it?
Hunter
I'm upset.
Kyla
Say it again.
King Azuli
Hold on. Was it a blow job or was it sleeping with her?
Hunter
It was a blow job.
King Azuli
Okay, okay, okay. We're getting better. We're getting better. Now, was the case dismissed or not?
Hunter
Was it dismissed? No. You signed a plea deal.
King Azuli
You signed a plea deal. Let's grab the. Grab my phone.
Hunter
You signed a plea deal. I remember this.
King Azuli
Oh, you're on here. So I want to show you. I want to show you.
Hunter
Show me.
Host Sean
Got the court documents?
King Azuli
Yep. First of all, Benazule. Search him up on the sex offenders list.
Kyla
No offense.
King Azuli
Not a sex. I didn't say you were sex, by the way. But if I were to have sex with her, it would have been dismissed. Do you see her name? What's her name? Right there.
Ben
What's her name?
King Azuli
Can we say it or. Yeah, you could say everybody already knows it.
Isaac
Yes, it.
Hunter
Oh, Hillary. Okay.
King Azuli
Yeah. Kaplan. All right.
Hunter
Okay. That is like.
King Azuli
That's the girl.
Hunter
No, but like. I know, but, like, is that like.
King Azuli
Okay, but what I'm saying is, is that something that was almost 20 years ago.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
That I paid my dues. I went to courts. I went through all the troubles. The courts were okay with me to leave and to continue my life. And 20 years later, someone wants to bring that up? Do you know that Cristiano Ronaldo was accused of here in Vegas and dated a woman?
Evelyn
I didn't know that.
Hunter
No.
King Azuli
Okay. But I have to say this, though. That Donald Trump.
Hunter
You. Okay, you have. You have one Hundred different backstories filled.
King Azuli
Like, let's.
Hunter
Let's go on. You can't tell me.
King Azuli
Oh, this is great for a clip. This is great for.
Hunter
You can't tell me. All those stories aren't.
King Azuli
One second.
Mike
Come on.
King Azuli
One second.
David
The.
King Azuli
The next thing. Was Donald Trump accused of.
Host Sean
All right.
Hunter
Yeah, yeah. He was.
King Azuli
Yes. Was Mike Tyson accused of.
Hunter
I believe so. Yeah.
King Azuli
Okay. So in my opinion, if you have not been accused of rape yet, you're not famous enough. You're not famous enough if you didn't get accused of rape. As a man, I hope.
Hunter
I hope that day doesn't come and
King Azuli
you'll never be famous and you'll never be rich. But if you will, they're gonna come after your money. And guess what? Because with that, I got a 51 million dollar lawsuit, my friend. But I didn't have 51 million dollars. So the idiots. What the fuck were they thinking?
Hunter
What the. They were thinking.
King Azuli
They were thinking, I'm gonna get some money. What the.
Hunter
No way. The King. No, no.
King Azuli
And now you can look at the track record. For 18 years, I have not had an issue. So it's the best thing that actually ever happened to me. Because when that happened, I realized, ah, being at parties, being around alcohol, being around marijuana, good is bad. Taught me a lesson.
Hunter
Yes.
King Azuli
Stayed away from it. So sometimes the things that happen to us don't happen to us, happen for us.
Hunter
That's very true. I like this.
King Azuli
So what I want, I want you to do better in life.
Hunter
Okay.
King Azuli
And maybe some of my backstory sound crazy to you. And a lot of people.
Hunter
Here's the thing, they can be crazy, but they're not true, though. Like, you're claim be. Have a secret language, secret military, kung fu, dragon warrior or whatever the you're saying. And then you claim to be Jesus Christ.
King Azuli
Like, but wait, did you hear in any place where I said.
Hunter
You said, I am the Jesus Christ at this time? I.
King Azuli
No, no, I saw it.
Hunter
Yes, you did. I saw it.
King Azuli
No, forget what people pull out of context for us to get clicks. We're getting clicks. Okay, we get views. But forget getting views. You go to the actual podcast. I say people message me all the time saying that I'm the Messiah and I'm the Jesus Christ of this time. I can show you screenshots.
David
Okay?
King Azuli
So I'm not sitting here and bullshitting you. I'm telling you that some things we pull out of context. Like, for example, there's a part where I say I was a Marine, right? It was here I was sitting in your chair. They took it and pulled that out of context. I didn't say that. I said Marine. And then another part I said I. And they took. I was a Marine.
Kyla
Yeah.
Host Sean
Wow.
Hunter
Let's see. Let's see it.
King Azuli
Read it out.
Hunter
Just regular things, you know. Too much simple life. Oh, okay, this one. You're the Messiah, Ben. I can feel it, man. Your aura, everything, man. I'm a big fan and support supporter. Every time I see your videos, I can feel it behind the screen. The power. Jesus is gonna fucking nuts here. One of your videos?
King Azuli
No, no. But I want you to understand that some men who come at me.
Hunter
Yeah. It just sounds like he's gay. I mean, no problem with it.
Mike
No problem.
King Azuli
You think they don't. You think they don't look at Andrew Tate and think he's like the Jesus Christ of our time?
Hunter
I. I don't think anyone should unless they know a lot of drugs.
King Azuli
I know you don't think you should, but men are missing a real role model. Somebody that they can look up to.
Hunter
Yeah, I agree that.
King Azuli
So what I'm telling you is to make your life better. Get in the gym, don't go to college
Hunter
like you're going to pop out like this.
King Azuli
But what you don't know, what you don't know, you accuse me of. You accuse me of taking steroids when you don't know when. I clearly said it openly. I clearly said it openly. I took steroids multiple times. It was twice for two different competitions. Do you think what I gained at the time, I kept. No, I was 235 pounds. Today I'm 195 pounds.
Hunter
Muscle memory exists, so you gain it really fast.
Mike
You gain.
Hunter
You gain your muscle back really fast. After steroids.
Mike
What?
King Azuli
You take steroids, your testosterone levels go up.
Hunter
Yeah, yeah.
King Azuli
You take enough of it, you grow, you eat all day. I can go up to 235 right now.
Hunter
Naturally, of course, you can't go back to when you were on steroids. I agree with that. That's true. But, like, it still does. It still does. You still keep some muscle and you still get gains from it if you stop.
King Azuli
I took it for three and a half months. You don't gain anything from it. You want to see a picture of me when I was eight? Shredded. Bro build.
Hunter
Eight years old.
King Azuli
Eight years old. Shredded.
Hunter
This is what I live for, right here. Yes.
King Azuli
Yeah, yeah. I'll throw that photo up for you.
Host Sean
Six pack at eight.
King Azuli
Six pack.
Mike
Damn.
King Azuli
Traps, everything, dude. Hey. Did you charge my phone?
Isaac
Yeah.
King Azuli
Where Is it? So I'll show you. I want you to understand that I've worked on this physique for 30 years now.
Evelyn
No.
King Azuli
And the problem that men have today is that they believe they need to take things to get big, to get strong. It's not true. You don't need that.
Hunter
Yeah, of course you could.
King Azuli
You could get it without this, you know.
Hunter
I agree.
Host Sean
Yeah. To Connor Murphy.
Hunter
Oh yeah, I saw that.
King Azuli
Like 32 year old.
Host Sean
Yeah.
King Azuli
Bodybuilder. Damn, bro.
Hunter
That was terrible, man.
Host Sean
Sad.
King Azuli
But that's that. I was supposed to go to Thailand right now and see him.
Host Sean
You serious?
King Azuli
Yeah, of course. Him and Tony. Huge.
Hunter
King Street. Can I check the ingredients?
Mike
Yeah.
Hunter
I won't mess with it. Obviously it's your product.
Host Sean
Oh, it's kosher. Yeah.
King Azuli
Why would you mess with it? It's a good, good ingredients.
Hunter
Yeah. I want like. I don't feel like it's as high as doses. I would like it though. The beta Alanine, I feel like should be up a little more.
King Azuli
That's me at 8.
Hunter
Dang.
King Azuli
Let me see this.
Hunter
I don't know.
Host Sean
Holy crap.
Hunter
That's big for an eight year old.
King Azuli
Yeah, as well.
Host Sean
That's nice.
Hunter
Wow.
Host Sean
That's second grade.
Hunter
You're not wrong. These are natural ingredients. You got a lot of mushrooms.
Evelyn
It's not.
Hunter
It's not bad. I would have to try it. See how I feel.
King Azuli
It's amazing. I. I'll get you a tub.
Hunter
Hey, like I said, college student. So I need all the pre work I can get. I'll take it. Honestly, I'll take it.
King Azuli
Dude, look at me. You have a bright future.
Mike
All right?
King Azuli
All you have to do is take life serious. Whether what I say is a lie or the truth, it shouldn't matter to you. It should inspire you to do better. That's all it should do. If you want to fact check me, then you're like a loser.
Hunter
Ah.
King Azuli
This isn't real. That isn't real. But if you look at me and you say that lived half of his life in Israel, didn't even live here. He came here and he became worth tens of millions of dollars.
Hunter
How did you get your millions of dollars, Jamie?
Mike
Kiss.
King Azuli
If he could do it, I could do it.
Hunter
How did you get it? I'm genuinely curious.
King Azuli
But that's the way that you should think. Now I'll tell you how I did it.
Hunter
Okay.
King Azuli
First of all, I started with doing sales.
Hunter
Good.
King Azuli
As soon as I started doing sales, after three months, the owner turned me into one of the partners.
Hunter
Okay.
King Azuli
And the Reason was, is because when you do sales, you take 45 to 50 commission. And he had the expenses of the office and he just opened up that business.
Host Sean
Business.
King Azuli
He said, you know what? You're making more than me. You want to become a partner?
Host Sean
Yeah.
King Azuli
So I did. After about a year, I found out that he was stealing from me. So I separated from him.
Hunter
You beat him up?
King Azuli
I, I didn't. It was the first time I didn't beat up the guy that stole from me. But that's when I learned never to do business with a man who cheats on his wife. After that I went in and I opened up my own business. I opened up an H VAC company.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
Then I put up, put together a roofing company, a solar company, a home improvement company.
Hunter
Yeah. Yeah.
King Azuli
All under the same umbrella.
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
Start making a lot of money. 3, 4, $500,000 every single month.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
By the time I was about 20 or 21, I started doing. By 20, I started doing flips and homes. After two flips, I believe that I did. I was like, you don't make enough money. Every four or five months turnaround, you make about 70 to 80k.
Evelyn
Yeah.
King Azuli
So I was like, you know what? Flips doesn't work for me. I started doing new builds. New builds. You buy a house. Let's say you buy a two million dollar home. At the time it was cheaper. But today, for example, I buy a house for $2 million. I put 20% down, which is 400,000, loan the rest. Then you go to a hard money lender. If you don't have the money. 10% yearly, another $2 million takes you about a year and two a year and three months to build that house. You sell it for seven, eight. You can make two, three, $4 million. Depends on where you're building it. That's on one house. I was doing literally five a year. Now put that aside. I became also a venture capitalist. I invented products. Some of the inventions you could see today, some of the inventions I already sold them, Made millions of stuff. Yes. You can also look, you can look up some of my patents. So I built the number one. I built the number one mask in the world. In Covid time. I made tens of millions of dollars. Face mask.
Hunter
Oh, I said mask.
King Azuli
I was like, I was like, what mask with an air purifier on it with a UV light to kill the bacteria, a defogger, the whole nine yards. So I made tens of millions of dollars in Covid time, which was great for me, but everything that I'VE done together wasn't never for me. I always thought about others. And that's why I got to where I got to today. I never thought about myself. Bars. I thought about others. So when you do for yourself, you don't need that much, right?
Hunter
Yeah.
Jade
Yeah.
King Azuli
What do I really need? Do I need nine bathrooms in my house? I don't in one, but I have nine bathrooms because I need them for the rest of the people that are coming over, whether to an event, staying over. I always have people at my house. Yeah, that's why I have multiple bedrooms. I don't have one for me or one for. For my right hand man or my maid. I have one for me. I have one for my mother. So she could come anytime. Although she lives down the street, she could come to my house anytime. She has a key to the house. It's not even my house. It is her house. I'm just visiting. Do you get what I mean?
Hunter
Of course.
King Azuli
Everything is my family's. It's not just mine. I worked for them.
Hunter
Okay?
King Azuli
I wanted to prove my father wrong when I said I was going to be a loser. That's why I tell you what you're doing right now is for a loser. I'm giving you the tough love because from that you're gonna see me, you're gonna be upset. Maybe a year from today, you're gonna talk to me and say, you know what? Remember when he told me that you hit a button? That button that you hit? I'm now worth $5 million.
Hunter
Well, hey, hey, listen. By this time next year, if I'm worth $5 million, I'll be like you predicted it. But it ain't gonna be because of you. I'm just gonna say that.
King Azuli
But you're gonna be because of me. It's all going to be because of you. I'm just going to trigger something. Like, for example, I always say feelings. Feelings aren't real.
Hunter
Yeah, yeah.
King Azuli
Feelings are a reaction to a perceived wound that hasn't been healed. So you have a wound since you're a child and you're reacting to it, and that's why you have a feeling. So right now you have a certain feeling because there is a wound that hasn't been healed. I think you're looking at me thinking, projecting.
Hunter
Actually, I don't have any wound. I don't know about you, but I don't care. I mean, it's fine to have a wound or like mentally so I'd say wound like that.
Jade
It's like.
King Azuli
Sounds weird, but anyway, but I want you to. I want you to know that you could get far in life.
Hunter
Thank you.
King Azuli
You have everything it takes.
Hunter
Yeah.
King Azuli
You just need to be guided a little bit and you're going to do extremely well.
Hunter
I'm just gonna.
King Azuli
You have a bright thing.
Hunter
So thank you for saying that, though.
King Azuli
I appreciate you have a bright future.
Hunter
I appreciate that.
King Azuli
Yeah, yeah, I see, I see your future and it's. It'd be beautiful.
Hunter
Thank you.
Mike
All right.
Hunter
I see it too. I know it's gonna be great.
Host Sean
Check out everyone's social media handles below. Guys, peace.
Hunter
Enough.
King Azuli
Later, guys.
Host Sean
That's it.
King Azuli
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Host: Sean Kelly
Date: July 24, 2026
This episode of Digital Social Hour brings together an Israeli defender ("King Azuli") and a diverse panel of pro-Palestinian, anti-war, and culturally critical activists for a raw, contentious, and sometimes deeply personal debate. With topics ranging from U.S. support for Israel, alleged Western decline, feminism, mental health, and generational masculinity, the discussion is as broad as it is heated. Host Sean Kelly attempts to moderate, pushing for clarity and productive engagement.
Main Arguments For (King Azuli):
Main Arguments Against (David, Ben, and others):
Memorable Exchange:
King Azuli: "Just like that, we could control the whole Middle East. We could control the money, we could control the oil. We will always be the strongest country in the world." (18:32)
David: "I don't want my tax money funding more wars. That's pretty much where I'm coming from." (20:30)
Timestamps:
Mental Health Claims:
Notable Quotes:
Masculinity & Social Decay:
Timestamps:
King Azuli’s View:
Panel Counterpoints:
Memorable Confrontations:
Timestamps:
Highlights:
Quotes:
Timestamps:
Conservative Family Advocacy:
Quotes:
Themes Emerging Throughout:
Language & Tone:
Host’s Closing Reflections:
If you want an unvarnished look at some of the most polarizing issues in Western culture—Israel/Palestine, feminism, masculinity, mental health, sexuality, tradition vs. modernity—this episode is a crash course in how fraught and complex these conversations have become. Expect intense disagreements, stark generational divides, wounded personal histories, and moments of unexpected vulnerability, all punctuated with both fact-checking and fiery rhetoric.
Content Warning: Debate contains frank, sometimes offensive language and personal criticisms, as well as discussions around trauma, sexuality, family violence, abuse, and religion.